7/21/ 2025 School Board Meeting

001Okay, I have 6:30 and I have a thumbs up from the technical department. So, um I'd like to first confirm before we get started. Whitney, can you hear us? >> Yes, I can. Are you able to hear me? Okay, >> perfect. Perfect. Thank you. So, uh we do have Whitney Lloyd joining us virtually and and the rest of us are here tonight with the exception of Dale. Um so, with that, we have Quorum. We'll go ahead and get started. Oh, pledge of allegiance. Quorum. Colle summer brain drain pledge of allegiance first. Sorry to standyice for all. Now I will say that we have a quorum and we will go ahead and get started. Dr. Phillips. >> Thank you, Miss Wen. We'd like to start off each meeting by reminding ourselves and our community of our

002mission, vision, and core values. The vision of BCSC is to be the choice to learn, work, and play. Our mission is to develop expert learners by partnering with our community to invest in people. And our core beliefs include that we all can rise to the challenge of high expectations. That learning is most effective when we have choice, flexibility, and see relevance. That we thrive when our physical, social, and psychological needs are met. That our community and school district are stronger when we partner with one another. That we flourish because of the diversity and variability in our community. and that we that our democracy and democratic institutions are strengthened by civic-minded citizens. >> Thank you. Okay, so we are going to move on to a public hearing and I actually gave out of a meeting because

003decisions are not made during a public hearing. So, I'll I'll gavvel out. Um, at this time, anybody who would like to to discuss our flexed program can come forward and speak. >> So, just I'll give a brief background. This is a repeat of what we just did about six months ago. Because of the new grant cycle that starts this uh this summer, this fall, um, we have to redo it. So, this is just a reminder that we have always had to in our title one U schools uh have our pair of professionals, our teaching assistants, if they um were going to work in a title one school and be paid using federal funds, they had to either have a bachelor's degree or take an advanced test. Um we were able to eliminate that requirement and

004provide our own training for those TAs. um but have to do um the federal government requires us to do a public hearing and make sure that the public knows that this is going on and they have an opportunity to speak in support of it or against it. So that's the topic. >> So if anyone would like to speak here in the room, you can you can just step up to the podium. I have a couple of people signed up for public comments. If if that's what you're going to speak on, you can do that now. Otherwise, we can do that during our public comment section. I've counted at least 10 Mississippi. So, I'm going to assume nobody would like to speak on this topic tonight and I will gabble back into our regular meeting. Next,

005we have schoolboard member reports. Um, Miss Lloyd, would you like to start? >> Sure. Good evening. My committees have not convened since our last school board meeting. So I do not have any critical updates for this evening. >> Thank you, Mr. Major. >> Yeah, no updates on the health trust, but uh I think Dr. Boseman and Dr. Phillips were both uh in the audience at the redevelopment uh commission meeting earlier. It was a joint meeting with uh the redevelopment commission and city council talking about the downtown 2030 Columbus strategic plan and they've got a lot of stuff that they want to do. Uh they've got several committees that are going to be working together over the course of the next year that are going to work to try and identify uh how we can make

006the downtown a more vibrant and inviting area for people to live uh people to work and people to play as someone I don't know if he's here or not but uh Josh Bernett mentioned that as well and so uh I think what have over the coming months to the next year is some updates here and there on how they they feel that they're going to help uh improve the downtown area uh for all of us and for those who don't live here today but could live here in the future. So, more to come. >> Okay, Mr. Steer, >> uh Mr. Glick and I are on the districting and facilities committee. That committee and a subset of the committee in particular has been working on the uh construction manager as contractor for Taylor'sville Elementary School for

007the project there. And we'll hear more about that and perhaps take action on that later in the meeting. >> Um I I do not have anything to report today, Mr. Glick. >> I do not have anything else to add. I also do not. No meetings were held over this time. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Miss Wheelen. If I could just um before we get into cabinet reports, um want to take a moment um to uh honor a student who passed away over the last week. You may may not have seen uh the obituary for a young man, special young man uh student rising junior at Columbus East High School. um passed away uh just last Thursday, I believe. Um and when you have a district of our size and this many students, sometimes you deal

008with tragedies like this. But I would ask that um the board and folks in the audience just take a moment of silence um to appreciate um Alex Phillips and um his time with us in BCSC and the joy he brought to the school, the staff, and the students at Columbus East and Central before that. Thank you very much and rest in peace, Alex. >> Okay, Mr. Brener. >> Okay, I'm color blind. Green or green? Okay. Um this is our uh twice a year uh ECA report, financial report. As we discussed in February, uh the majority of the receipts for these groups came in the first semester with fundraisers, our large sporting events with East North football, East North basketball, and the various other East North events that take event place during the first semester. Um

009overall, um we had about 114,000 more expenses than we did in receipts, but we anticipated that again there were greater um receipts revenue in the first semester. Uh we had eight schools that did have more revenue than expenditures. Central, Clifty, CSA, Newekch, McDow, Mount Healthy, Parkside, Richards, and Smith. For the year, we end balance of 1.2 2 million with an additional 940,000 in investment funds. Be glad to answer any questions you may have. >> Okay, no questions. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. Thank you for allocating time to hear about the teacher performance report updates and then go over excellent and engaged staff metrics for the 2425 school year. First, we'll start with the performance evaluation Indiana code. This code is recently changed. So, what you see on the left

010was of the past. We once were required to implement performance evaluations that included those domains of being highly effective, effective, improvement necessary and ineffective. You will still see those domains in our data that we are going to present today. However, there has been an update to the performance evaluation system at the state of Indiana level. So what we are able to now do is to have an performance evaluation system. It has to be conducted at least annually and we have to post the plan on the website even as we can make these changes legislatively. BCSSC will maintain its current performance evaluation system for this upcoming 202526 school year. We do have an evaluation oversight committee that meets frequently and CA is a member on that committee. We will look at potential changes but for the

0112526 school year we will maintain our current performance evaluation system. Going over that information, our current and this upcoming school year performance evaluation system includes these four domains. Those domains are universal design for learning, positive behavioral instructional supports or PBIS, academic citizenship, and student success. You can see the weights of those domains and the domain descriptions. All of this is available on our teacher evaluation guide book which is posted on our website. It's the same evaluation system as last year as well. We have updated information to provide you for the 2425 school year. This graph depicts our aggregated evaluation averages from 2020 to 2025 in each of those performance domains. You will notice that we have gray domains of academic success and learning outcomes. Those were once domains in our teacher performance evaluation system. In

012school year 2223, those two domains collapsed underneath the student success domain, which is the domain you'll see on that far corner. This information is the same as the previous just in table form versus graph form where you will be able to see year-over-year. What were the averages for our performance in those domain elements of UDL, PBIS, academic citizenship and then student success. Again, this table reflecting the collapsing of those performance domains into those two performance domains into one during the 22 23 school year. Here we take a look at our colleges and universities. We look at what college or university has a teacher graduated from with their bachelor's degree in education. We look at the performance within each domain. Thank you. So you can see University of Southern Indiana scored the highest in the UDL

013domain on average and the overall achievement domain on average for our total. Then we have UN Indiana University Southeast performing the highest in academic citizenship and student success with St. Mary of the Woods College performing the high highest in PBIS. You'll also see that the bulk of our teachers come from Indiana University Bloomington with Indiana University Columbus also being high on the list of producing teachers for BCSSE. Okay. Now we have our evaluation averages by years of experience. So you can see our 0 to four, 5 to nine etc. with those year those ineffective improvement necessary, effective and highly effective categorizations at the bottom as well. Again, this is an update of our teacher performance evaluation. We had this update last year. Next year, I will inform you what the committee overall has decided in

014response to those legislative changes. move on to excellent engaged staff because our teacher performance system is just one component of our excellent and engaged staff priority. Our goal in the excellent and engaged staff priority is to recruit and retain an excellent and engaged staff with at least 92% of retention excluding retirements year-over-year. So from school year 2324 to school year 2425 we retained 93% of certificated staff. As of July 14 when this presentation was finalized we had retained 94% of certificated staff from the 2425 school year to this upcoming 2526 school year. When we break down this information, and this is looking at our retention from 23 24 to 2425, we look at why teachers left BCSC. We categorize those in retirements, leaving for another Indiana public school corporation, a career change, moving, family needs,

015and health. That's how we figure our retention percentage again to have that 91% of retention including retirements from 2324 to 2425 and then that 93% excluding retirements from 2324 to 2425 of staff members who retired. We look at what years of experience did they have within BCSSE only. So you can see that of those that retired or resigned from 2324 to 2425, 43% of those staff members were in 1 to five years of BCSSE experience. 24% were in the 6 to 10 years of experience. 5 to 8% or sorry 5 to 6% were in the 11 to 15 years of experience with 26% in the 16 years of experience. So let me look at that compared to our 2425 to 2526 school year. We have a 91% retention rate again this year when we include

016both our retirements and our resignations. And then as of July 14 we had a 94% retention rate when we excluded our retirements from 2425 to 2526. And again that breakdown of of the teachers who left BCSC what years of experience are they taking with them BCSC years of experience. So what are we doing to recruit and retain an excellent in staff? First with the help of the community and the support of the community we have competitive salaries that includes our referendum support. We have a competitive benefits package. Our BCSSE health trust meets and focuses on that area of employee benefits. Bright Beginnings is increasing its capacity in the upcoming school year and beyond providing highquality care for our staff members youngest learners. We have multiple employee pathways that I will go through in depth in

017a subsequent slide. For professional growth, we look at how can we take everyone where they are and grow them from there. So we have these professional growth tracks for our students who want to one day become educators. We have professional growth tracks for peer professionals to become educators and our educators to become administrators within BCSSC. We also have our mentorship models that we've presented on before with our new teacher academy and our literacy mentors. We have an employee engagement committee that meets and talks about how can we gather our employee engagement. What does that look like? What will we do with the information? And through that committee, it has been determined that we will engage in stay interviews in the upcoming school year. And these stay interviews will help us ask the question, why do

018you stay at BCSC? And thus help us determine what can we continue to enhance for our staff engagement and retention. We presented this information to our administrative council and our administrative council overall stated that staff stay when they feel valued, supported and respected, especially by their building leadership and their teams. And that certainly is demonstrated through things such as our advisory groups, our CCIC and CIC meetings which occur at both the building and district level. I do want to highlight one of those pathways from the 2425 school year. We engaged in a future educator signing day in May. It was a very successful day where 31 seniors committed to a career in education. Many of those seniors are taking C4 classes to become early childhood educators or K through2 educators. Dr. Dr. Katie Jenner, the

019Indiana Secretary of Education, joined us and also impactful BCSSE teachers joined us as well as each of those seniors were able to choose a BCSSE teacher who inspired them to become a teacher. Mayor Mary Ferdon also joined and provided a speech to our graduates. Janice Montgomery was there as well, BCSC Hall of Fame member. And ultimately it was a community event in which the C4 culinary students and graphic design students made refreshments and also designed the graphics that you see on the screen. BCSC ended up receiving a statewide acknowledgement in the IDOE newsletter and this was a wild success and really highlighted the community aspect that BCSC brings to students and families. a 2526 highlight. Those are those pathways. And so we have uh started an apprenticeship with the Indiana Department of Education. Those are

020our C4 students who want to be educators. There's an early childhood education apprenticeship that they are involved in. We are working with Indiana University Columbus on a teacher apprenticeship which will be a parapathway. If you currently do not have a bachelor's degree and you would like to be a teacher and you work as an instructional classified staff member, then this might be an employee pathway option for you. We have transition to teaching cohorts. Those are staff members who have a bachelor's degree and would like to teach. And so that is a partnership with Indiana State University. We've started a master's degree in educational leadership cohort. So we have 15 teachers who would like to gain a master's degree in educational leadership and a building level lensure. That's in partnership with Indiana State University. We have

021approximately 25 rising leaders who are teachers within BCSSE who already have their master's degree in ed leadership. They have their building level lensure and we want to pour into them in order to retain them. And thus we have this rising leaders cohort where we engage in professional learning together. The transportation department has an employee pathway where if you would like to become a contracted bus driver, then you can start as a bus monitor like position in order to gain hours and experience towards your license. We have internships at BCSC. Most recently over the summer, we have technology and human resources internships and collaboration with Indiana University Columbus. And ultimately we focus on the professional development for each staff member for all departments and buildings. In Indiana there is something called the rule of 85 which

022means when you hit this rule of 85 you can retire and receive your full benefits from the state of Indiana. We know at BCSC we have nine administrators currently who have reached the rule of 85 and 82 teachers who have reached the rule of 85. That means we have a lot of experience in our building and we are very appreciative of their continued dedication to BCS BCSSC and what they provide both their students and their colleagues. We have a new teacher orientation on July 28th. In our new teacher orientation, we are going to welcome 46 new teachers. As you remember, Derek Chastain won the teacher of the year for BCSC for this current school year. Derek submitted his application to the Indiana Department of Education. And in his application, his message was so powerful that

023I asked Josh Bernett to capture that in a video for our new teachers. We have an abbreviated version to show you to conclude this presentation and then I'll ask for questions. I love teaching science and I think being a science teacher is the best profession in the world. Listen carefully as you will never hear me say that teaching is easy because it is not. It is hard but I think that's why it's so important. I often think of the timeless truth in what President Kennedy said about the goal of landing on the moon. He said, "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." We've all likely heard it said that kids these days are not the way they

024used to be. This is true, but look at the world kids are growing up in today and consider how technology with instant gratification threatens the extinction of patients. Think about how we have tons of information at our fingertips while not all of it is useful or even accurate. and consider what social media might be telling our children about their selfworth. These are just a few of the things that come to my mind that makes teaching hard. And yet, the more challenging teaching becomes, the more important it is for us as educators to persist in this endeavor. Our students need adults as role models. It is by example that we teach the importance of perseverance and how to be dependable. They are counting on us to be good listeners and show them empathy and seek understanding.

025In society with divisions, students need to see examples of people working together with respectful discourse and productive discussion where we thrive through teamwork and collaboration. Students are watching us, the adults, the teachers, and they desperately need to see evidence that when the going gets tough, we will not give up or give in. With all the ways that students depend on teachers, we must recognize that teachers need motivation, too. I've set a personal goal to promote the recognition of my colleagues in this profession locally and across the state. We are motivated in part by knowing that the work we do matters, but too often I think that the appreciation from parents and students is not shared or celebrated enough. I know teachers that have made countless impacts on students in immeasurable ways and they may not

026know what a difference they've made. Now is the time for us to share the impact. This is something that we can do together as a community of fellow teachers, students, parents, legislators, and school administrators to make teachers aware and feel appreciated for the difference they make in people's lives. The cliche is true. Teachers do what they do to make a difference. I love what I do and I'm forever grateful to know that this work makes a difference. [Music] >> Thank you. >> Questions if you have any. >> I have a few to get us started. Um, >> I love teaching. I'm just not any good at it. So, I do something else. Okay. Um, >> we have a we have a pathway for that. >> Okay. Good. Good. We'll talk afterwards. Uh, you talked about

027a stay interview and I love the concept. Can you tell me a little bit more about like what that would look like, questions we ask, who facilitates all of those things? >> Yeah, that's a great question. We spoke about an employee engage. We spoke about this through the employee engagement committee and the human resources team will actually be going out as a team to each building and they are optional stay interviews. So you can engage in them or not and then you can engage in them with me or one of the HR team members and really the essence of the stay interview is to figure out why do you stay, what do you look forward to when you drive to work every day and what can we do to make your experience better. actually five

028questions we'll ask everyone and then we'll be able to code those themes and as an employee engagement committee determine what are the highest reasons people stay and how can we continue to enhance those reasons um you covered a few of the pathways I don't know if we could go back to that slide there were quite a few on there I'm not sure which one you think I fit into maybe that's why I think >> um the uh there were a couple in particular I wanted to learn a little bit more about master's degree in educational leadership from ISU. Um can you say a little bit just about the number of people we have in that demographics of of those employees and then u maybe the third part of that is just what does a program

029look like with this pathway versus if I was a teacher and just decided to go get my master's degree on my own? >> Questions. So the masters in uh ed leadership through Indiana state we have 15 teachers in that right now. So if I look at our bands of one to five years six to 10 years that's how I like to look at things. It's a pretty even split between those in their first five years with us and those in their six to 10 years with us who have stated I would I would like to get a master's degree. Why this is different? This is BCSSC cohort specific because we will be learning through the Indiana State University courses on leadership, but we will also be able to dive into what does leadership look like

030in Bartholomew County, which we know is different than the rest of the state. So, there are some nuances in Bartholomew County that I would like our future administrators to learn from those that are within our community. An example of that, Bartholomew Consolidated School Corporation is a very community centered organization. We engage in those CCIC meetings. I keep pointing at Logan because he's on the employee engagement committee and other school corporations don't engage in things like that. So I would want our leaders to understand what are those pillars of leadership that we value in Bartholomew County and how can we infuse that into their master's degree program. It's a little of how that's different and if you would go join a program on your own and it's also a cohort experience. So you have 15 teachers

031going through this at the same time and they're able to support one another. >> Any other questions? Yep. Uh you mentioned that we've got 46 new teachers joining corporation for this upcoming school year. When we recruit and hire new, is it always people straight out of school? There was the slide about what school do they come from. Do we also have the chance to hire people with experience somewhere else? >> Yeah, that's a great question. Our referendum really supports recruitment in that area. I was looking at our numbers with our human resources team as we prepare for Monday. We have approximately 270 years of total experience coming to us from other school corporations or prior experience. So I state that because that referendum allows us to be competitive when we recruit. Now some of that

032are those C4 teachers. So when we look for a welding teacher, we want a welding teacher with quite a bit of years of experience. If they're going to teach our own students how to weld, they come with us with a large number of years of experience that we take into account when we form their offer. So to your question, we have quite a bit of experience coming to us in this upcoming school year and that referendum really supports our competitive nature. Our average teacher salary is 69,000 and the average teacher salary in the state of Indiana is about 6,5 60,500. So we are above the state average which also helps. >> Just to make sure I got those numbers right. 46 new teachers this year and they're bringing more than 200 years of experience with

033them. >> Yes. >> Gota questions. Um, I went ahead and I took uh prior years 23 and 24 data for the same charts that you put together >> and tried to understand where we're trending. Um, I don't know how to correlate this to student performance, but as far as uh all the different categories you you mentioned earlier, uh everything is trended up. So, from a standpoint of what looks like we're doing the right things, uh, year-over-year, you you've shown improvements. So, um, that's a a huge thank you that I guess goes out to the support staff and the teachers for focusing on those four key areas to ensure that they're scoring better, which means they're learning more about how to do each of those four areas at a much better level than they were the

034year before. So, um, thank you to them, thank you to you and others that put this together. And just uh I can show you this later, but it might be good to show that just so that people outside of us that don't have the history can see that we're going the right direction. >> Thank you. >> I did think of one more question on one of the early slides. Um, when it comes to our performance evaluations and changes in Indiana legislation, if I picked up on it correctly, we're to post our performance evaluation plan on the website. Is that something that we've always done or we'll start doing it because of the legislation? >> We've always done that. So, it's underneath the certified tile in our human resources website. >> Gotcha. Thank you. And the

035update was simply removing most of the language and the performance evaluation and including only that it needed to be conducted annually and posted to the website. But we collaborate with CA on any changes and so we'll be engaging in that in the upcoming school years. >> Thank you. >> Okay, any other question? I >> think that's it. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Dr. Stalwam. The next item on the agenda is the first reading of the next uh package of policy updates. Um this is a slide that should look familiar to you. In this package, we have nine policies to replace or consolidate all or part of 44 current policies. It's a it's a relatively large package, but most of that is in one of them. Um, and then there are

036two new policies proposed in this package. So, um, I have a caveat to to add here. These were posted actually before July 4th, but they were posted well ahead of the two-week time frame as per our policy. First reading would be at this meeting and um pending that there's not a request for a uh work session in between now and then. They would be on their second reading at the next board meeting. But what happened after we posted these policies to the website for every the public to review was that three of them we received updates from uh Church Hill and Antrum to update three of these policies based on the most recent legislative session. And so we went ahead and went on to the versions that are on the website and updated those. and

037um the updated versions, the updated sections were highlighted in yellow and we put a note at the top to let folks know that that had been the case. Um and that it is uh just for efficiency purposes. There were um there were not any pol there weren't any changes or updates that I think would have been controversial, but I also don't want to replace my judge or you know your judgment with mine. So, if um there's any any board members who wish for us to pull those and put them on first reading next time, we can do that as well. But they were they were posted for um you know, for a full week or so prior to to tonight's meeting. Um, and I do want to review just um and mention the no distracted

038driving policy would be a new policy, but one that um after talking with our team, we felt like it was a certainly a relevant policy to add today, focusing on safety and essentially letting both internal stakeholders, employees and students, as well as external stakeholders know that on property, on school property, we're not driving with phones. or food or mirrors or other items of of that sort. And then the second new policy is one that we mentioned at least at the last board meeting if not prior to that and we've been working on this one for a little while and this is a cash balance policy. I added a slide here just to clarify. So we didn't have a cash balance policy before. Why would we have one? Um after thinking about it, it seems like

039a good public policy. Um essentially it gives um you know the public parameters for you know um what we're going to follow when it comes to budgeting and cash management. Helps the business office as they're budgeting to know what is the expectation of the board when it comes to maintaining a a cash balance that allows us to main maintain stability and sufficient liquidity to pay our bills. So making sure we have enough days, weeks and months of cash on hand to to pay our bills and stay liquid. um also uh protect against unexpected losses in revenues or unexpected emergency expenditures. Um it'll also um credit agencies um and and bond investors look at would look at a policy like that and see that we have strong controls in place to make sure that all of

040those prior bullet points are uh maintained. And then plus it helps us maintain a stable tax rate that the public knows what to expect um and and keeps us from collecting more cash than what we need to have on hand based on our own policy. So the proposal in the F350 cash balance policy is that we would in the operating funds which are defined in the policy as the education fund, the operations fund and the operating referendum fund that those three policies would or those three funds we would have a balance at a minimum of 13.5% of that year's budgeted expenditures and a maximum of 19%. that is two two months to 2.3 months of cash on hand. And then in the rainy day fund, which is separate and we don't budget it, we don't

041touch it without board action. That would be between four and 6% of that year's budgeted expenditures in the operating funds for a total of between 17.5% and 25%. And I just want to remind I'll remind everyone on the board that we have um during the first reading we give an opportunity of course for discussions and questions but then if the majority of the board wishes to hold a public work session on any of them. There's a motion and a vote and then we will schedule that before the next board meeting um to address any any changes that you'd like to make. happy to answer any questions on any of the policies. >> I I have a quick question. Are you able to hear me still? >> Yes. >> Regarding the the balances, so I know

042the state has a target balance between 8 and 12%, but ours is higher. Can can you talk a little bit about why BCSC would set a higher target than the state? Good question. You're right. Each year that I've seen the budget come out from the state, it's they have a color chart that shows a band between eight and 12%. Um Mr. Brener is walking up here and he can correct me if I'm wrong, but the state the state brings in revenue on an ongoing basis every day, every week, uh from sales taxes, property taxes, um all of all of that revenue is flowing all of the time. For us, we receive distribution once a month in the education fund and then in the other two funds once every six months. And so for us to

043be able to make sure as we ride the wave of the declining balance in that each of those six-month periods that when we have, for example, a three-pay month, because we're on 26 pays in BCSSE, a three-pay month, and it happens to be before we're collecting property taxes, that cash can get pretty low. Okay. >> Sorry I took took your thunder away, Mr. Brand. Appreciate you coming up there. >> Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I just something that that stuck out and I was curious what the what the reasoning was. >> Also, I have a question. It's good that we discuss policy like this for the reasons that you mentioned, but um we're not the only ones that have control over our cash balances. How does this policy interact with what Department of Local

044Government Finance says to us when they review an annual budget for us? The only funds that the Department of Local Government Finance and Indiana Code limit are um the debt service funds that pay the bonds. They actually put a hard cap on how much cash you can hold in those funds and it's limited to that year's payments and then a percentage of the next year's payments and that's it. Other than that, um they they have not, you know, responded to a >> and then cash balances >> that action that they take every year where they approve our final tax rates and that that would impact some of these balances as well. It it can if we budget either um expenditures above where we expect to collect revenue or below. In either of those cases, it

045could in fact impact the the tax rate. Thank you. >> In fact, if we used cash instead of property tax collections, that would lower the tax rate to fund a year's budget, for example. Um I have a maybe a clarifying question for Dr. Boseman on um H100 school visitors and parent family engagement. I think there's been some misunderstandings in the past. I want to clarify in our policy and in our practice. If a parent would like to go to see their student at lunchtime in every one of our schools, is that permitted in our policy? >> It it is. So, so long as all other board policies or are observed. So, background checks, etc. So, but yes. >> And that's new for this year or was it in effect last year >> for all schools?

046>> I'm not I believe that was in effect for for last year. Dr. Hack can clarify if I believe that was in effect last year as well. So, but nothing nothing in policy that you're reviewing today that's changing with any current practice. >> I don't think it was policy that drove that. I think the parents were asked to not attend lunch in the student handbooks in elementary schools that we approved each of the last two years. >> Okay. Thanks. >> So, this year, if I recall right, was the first year that the student handbooks allowed parents to go back >> it wasn't policy that did that. It was >> the handbooks were in conflict with standing policy. >> Thanks for the clarification on that. >> Yeah, I I appreciate uh you coming up with the

047cash balance policy. This is something that I think I've been uh very vocal about in the past of having such large reserves. Um, one thing I would ask here is would it be possible to put uh I guess dollar amounts next to the 13 1219? That way we can see what it should be based on the budget and then also look at what our actuals are to know if if I'm gonna make a number up say 13% is 25 million and we're at 30, right? or if it's 25 million and we're at 20, that kind of gives us some some ideas as to where we need to move up or down uh to hit whatever our targeted numbers are. >> And that's what we'll start doing in the quarterly financial update as well as and

048we can do it for the purposes of right today at this moment as well, but we'll do it in the quarterly financial update as well as obviously during the budget process which will start here in a month, month and a half. Any other questions? I do I do I am Anyone have a concern with considering this a first reading given some of the yellow changes? I'm comfortable with that. >> I can hear you. What did you say? >> Is anyone concerned about considering this a first reading given some of the legislative changes? Not for first reading. No. >> Okay. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Just to clarify before, yes, I think I agree, but the the yellow highlight changes that were made a little bit more recently were to comply with laws that have been

049passed by the state of Indiana. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> Thank you, >> Dr. Boseman. Good evening. Thank you for affording us a bit of time. You may remember each year about this time. We will give you a a we call it a CPF project update which we will do here tonight. And then we're also going to go include an energy management update as well over the past eight years or so. I have Drew my net with me and Martin Roberts. Drew and Martin help manage um most of our CPF projects. So, generally speaking, projects that are less than $100,000 that they'll speak to. And they also uh work with our um trades personnel. So, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, grounds, carpenters, life safety, etc. I will give you a brief update on some of our

050summertime envision work. This is North Side Middle School and generally speaking, everything in the north end of North Side is under heavy renovation. If you drive by, you may notice a gigantic wall in what used to be the pool. That will no longer be a pool, obviously. And this is uh this will turn into a large group construction space, but it's very very noticeable off of US 31 if you've been around. And that's looking back to the north from that same vantage point there. So, um, heavy construction and demo going through there. This is again on the north end of the old building, the 63 Harry West building. Uh, this is on the main level. Um, if you if you if you're a former northider or familiar with the space, these were all classrooms. Um,

051eight of them all the way down that run. And now it's uh one large space. As I go through demo, we'll be put back in in placed. Uh, hallway on the third floor. And then looking out this actually looking out into the interior courtyard also on that on that third floor. Um this will be a neat project when it's done as as the natural light will really flow in from those spaces in through the the common spaces and hallway and then out into the other classrooms which was one of whis's um intended um purposes of the design of that space. Smith Elementary also starting with renovation this summer. Uh we are in phase one and two of the space estimate and 2A actually. So um we'll call that the pink color in the top left

052and then the uh yellow color towards the bottom that's under renovation now and they're starting on the corridor edition in in that brown uh towards the middle. These are the kindergarten uh excuse me the pre-K classrooms that are being renovated um that are adjacent to the the current main office. And this is in that heavy construction area that I had shown earlier. That will uh be a second grade area as they're starting to do some framing in that space as well. Um if you're a former Smithsonic, you may recall an exterior staircase here that's been uh demolished and um taken away. That was um an item that needed significant repair and so we decided to replace that. So the new staircase is going in now that provides secondary egress for students on the upper stair

053which was currently sixth grade. Schmidt Elementary also making really good progress here. We are in happy to explain this if you need to but we are in we are in phase two, four, five, and six at Schmidt Elementary. So the I don't know we'll call it the orange color because I'm not great with my primary colors. In the middle there is all um under punch list right now. will be ready for students. The brown area is the media center that is also getting close to being finished up and the um the addition also uh board members may recall we toured part of that addition uh just a handful of weeks ago. This is a snapshot into the wellness area. This is just adjacent to the main office at Schmidt Elementary. Uh this is as of

054about a week ago in the media center. So the these um the windows there on the left those are called nanow walls and they actually open up. So this would be a great large group space which will also serve as the media center at Schmid Elementary. Again back to the original design and attention of Harry Whis. Another view of the space in there. This is the addition that I mentioned before um that looks out into you see all the clear story lighting that comes in for natural light. And then this is uh the not very clean courtyard that is uh with roofing that's happening at the same time. So the classroom I was just in, you walk out those doors into that enclosed courtyard that's fenced and you walk out the other way into the

055common space towards the other playground. Uh this is in the wing that I showed you a moment ago. This is a large uh the common space on the right hand side for second grade also and a classroom on the left. Also of note, the this is the car line at Schmid Elementary and that has been widened so double the traffic can come through there to hopefully relieve congestion on the neighboring streets. East High School C4 and the biomed and dental lab. uh they are uh well underway and and on schedule here at East High School. So this is for reference um second floor upstairs obviously overlooking uh towards the west towards the tennis courts and this is another view just looking back in the in the opposite direction. Oh, excuse me. This is this is

056Central Middle School. Uh this is Central Middle School library and the uh library wellness and maker space project that's that's happening at Central Middle School. Also, uh I'll turn this over to Drew. Uh, I'll mention a couple things as he starts and goes through. We're very photoheavy in this presentation tonight. So, um, but Drew spends a lot of his time on small capital projects throughout the year. Summertime is very busy for Drew. Uh, we spend about $2 million or so. We budget about $2 million or so each year for CPF. Uh, we can help answer questions about that, but I will hand the microphone to Drew, let him speak more specifically. >> Good evening. Thanks for having me. Um, with our CPF projects, uh, like, uh, Dr. Boseman said, we we gather information with the

057building reps, principles, uh, we get lists, wish list, wants, needs, and, uh, we bring those back to the table with uh, our team and Dr. Boseman and he we kind of prioritize that list whether uh, what's important now, what's uh, what's going to be covered in the projects in the future. So that way we don't uh you know put new carpet here and it get tore out in the 2030 vision. So um I think we do a a fantastic job of communicating that stuff and not doubling back and tearing out or starting over on something that we just did uh you know maybe in the past couple years. Um this is my third year now and uh our CPF kind of begins with uh we meet with the principles, they give us the list, we

058prioritize, then we sit down, they put a number to that and then my summer begins with um anywhere any building could have anywhere from three to five projects um for the summer. And if you kind of do that, that's anywhere from 50 to 70 projects that I may have to complete in a short period of time. Um, we do uh is this up here on the side? Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Um, so a lot of my stuff uh well, we do a lot of paint, a lot of concrete, um, lighting, parking lots, classrooms, hallways, um, flooring. We, you know, we do carpet, tile, epoxy. Uh epoxyy's becoming uh more popular. Uh it's easier to care for than VCT and stuff uh in certain areas. Um mostly nurs's office, restrooms. Um really really easy to put down

059and it's it holds up really well. Um with our miscellaneous, we do like blinds, uh windows, could be stage curtains, diving boards at North uh this summer. uh we do some kils for our class and we do a lot of landscaping around the properties uh that may not be covered in in the project itself in the 2030 vision stuff. So um with that said um couple here on the the left in the middle is uh Southside Elementary. We had some crumbling concrete um we were able to go in replace uh that just so happened that that is above the tunnel um at Southside where some water was getting in a little bit. So, we were able to remedy uh that through CPF project. Uh so, that's kind of two birds with one stone there. Um

060Southside Kitchen, we were able to paint uh power washing. Uh that was a good one for Southside. Um that building looks uh phenomenal. Um in spots it it had a lot of rust uh spots from rebar that was exposed that was running down that we were able to get off. Uh there's some spotted Dalmatian areas, but I think that'll that'll go away with the weather in time. But um it was very black and and dark and dingy in a lot of areas on the north and west uh facing sides, and we were able to to clean that building up really nice. Uh did some interior painting there as well. Um East High School, the front steps, uh I don't know if you ever saw those. They were uh crumbling and and falling apart. Um we

061did try this new uh thing that we did at Southside with um it's like a sandy grit um material. Um the middle picture is kind of the one of the almost finished products. Uh so you do see a lot of debris and stuff there, but if you get a chance drive by those steps all the way around the corner are uh fantastic. They they look great and we're going to hope that they hold up as as well as uh the past ones. um interior painting as well at East uh East auxiliary gym. Uh it was pretty bad. You see the guy there on the lower uh on the left, he's painting the lower and we had a guy in the lift doing the upper on that wall. That entire gym got painted. Uh there in

062the middle is the north uh high school office areas. Um, you think kids are kind of rough on hallways and dinging them and leaving marks, but uh the north uh office, principal's office there and cohorts offices, uh, they were banged up pretty good, so we were able to patch those. Uh, to the right is Richards. Um, we believe that was a foundation issue there on the top right there. Um, we were able to get in, found some, uh, water damage and some leak up top and it was actually coming down that expansion joint. We were able to repair that so we didn't have to dig out and, you know, we were afraid foundation, everybody kind of panics and we were able to uh, repair that one fairly easy. Uh, it was on our CPF. Uh,

063the window ledges had some moisture and some rotting around those. We were able to repair those as well. So, uh, to the left is, uh, Richard's planter boxes. Um, that was kind of a tough one. Uh, we did the front ones, uh, last year. And these are the ones on the north side, uh, kind of towards the par three in the tennis court there. That's a little rough looking, but it's not ours. Um, this we were able to match the brick really well with Richard's. Um, they turned out phenomenal. I was really happy with those. And uh that was that was a good project and I appreciate the contractors on those uh CSA new tech a lot of concrete issues. We were able to to break that up, pour some new uh steps back there

064kind of by the loading dock and then uh we addressed some ADA ramps uh there on the other side of the building there. So, um, central, uh, you left and middle. Um, there was, you can kind of see the little bit of new concrete next to the building there. Um, it it had pravel in it and those doors, uh, the clearance when they drug, um, didn't have a whole lot and gravel would get in there and kind of prevent those doors from shutting. So, it was kind of a security thing. So, we were able to take some of that pear gravel out and replace back with some uh exposed concrete there that um I think will get have it that's not the finished look, but it'll have a really nice shine to it eventually. Uh

065and epoxy floors there in the um Parkside nurses station. Uh you know, we we doubled back there with uh a few areas that we may have missed in project and we were able to to take take care of those. So, um, again, uh, our CPS stuff, like I said, uh, Martin and Greg and, uh, Tony and all these guys, it's it's great to be on this team and and they do a phenomenal job and like I said, we just just move forward and we appreciate this 2030 vision stuff and, uh, our CPF is, uh, moving along nicely this summer. So, we're about to wrap up a a lot here in the next week or two. So, I'll introduce uh, Martin Roberts here. Good evening everybody and good evening everybody. Um my name is Martin Roberts.

066This is about the first time I've done this so be patient with me a little bit. Um we had decided when we talked about doing an energy report uh to focus on eight years um starting in 2016 to 2024 2024 because that's the last year that we have a full year of data. Um so looking at the first slide um again it's an eight-year span. And you'll find the blue line. That's a total cost of all our facilities um each year for eight years. Um that's electrical. The orange line is a is a total cost of our natural gas for eight years. Um and again in on the left side you'll find a chart that will show us a year's use of electricity there. We paid about 9 cents a kilowatt hour and it was

067a total of two 2,200,000 well 2.2 to a little over that million. And on the right side, you'll find another chart that shows us energy use. And this is electrical as well. We paid 10 cents a kilowatt hour. And we'll find that it was a little less um in 2024 with just over $2 million. Again, if we look, this is natural gas. Um on the left side is 2016. We paid5.53 for decathm and it was a cost of4 $412,454. [Music] On the right you'll find in 2024 we paid $5.68 for a deck of them and the total was 4,022 and 4,2 422228. How about that? Um, this is the fascinating slide for me. Um, I just I can get into this one. Um, if you'll find on the left side in 2016, uh, again, this

068is total cost. If you look at the red line, the red vertical line and the blue line just on top, it is total cost for that month. It represents a month for 12 for eight years. Um so the total gas and electric in 2016 was 2.6 a little over 2.6 million. Uh if you start moving right you'll find the there's a green arrow there. Um and at this time we did three projects. We did an LED lighting project and two solar projects. So you'll find at that time that the energy cost went way down. Um red line it indicates when COVID hit us at that time. We was we shut down the buildings um close the outside air and and run them in an unoccupied state most of the time. and and so the cost

069there went really it went down quite a bit after that when the schools opened back up. Uh we found we was instructed that um well I was instructed that I should run the schools almost 24/7 for ventilation to to get fresh air into the school. So we find that the the usage really went up there. Uh, and we also will find in that that the there was a rate spike there. The rates went up quite a bit. I seen one report where it got up to about 13 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity. Um, after that it settled back down and we got to 2024. Uh we ended up paying about 10 cents a kilowatt hour for electricity and the total was about 2.5 million. Um this is Taylor'sville. This is a picture of Taylor'sville

070electrical use between 2016 to 2024. We talked about one of the solar projects. One of them was put in at Taylor'sville. And you can see putting in the LED lighting and and the solar, you can see the significant drop that it made around 2020. Um, again, it spiked back up, but that was because of the electric prices going back up a little bit, come back down, and we ended up paying about 10 cents a kilowatt hour. This is also um this is a picture of North Side from 2016 to 2024. Uh around 2020, we also installed LED lighting and solar in it and again the significant drop you can see and again the rise when when the price of kilowatt hour went up. But uh both those projects they you can see that they made

071a large difference especially in those schools and u so anyway that's not the only projects we've done in our schools you know the uh but when we install new equipment usually it's wore out usually uh it's time for it to be replaced we've been able to replace it with more efficient equipment um our boilers The old ones they are they were gas users and uh we replaced them with new boilers called condensing boilers where they will actually change the temperature of the water and by that being said we use a lot less gas when we run them. So, in our shoulder months when when the temperatures are just right, you know, really between when we need real cooling and real heating, uh we can drop the the temperature of the heating water down, use a

072lot less gas to heat it, and still condition our buildings. Uh we put in a few chillers in this amount of time too and we we've been able to buy more efficient chillers as well and that contributed also to uh at least us staying the same or even dropping a little bit in our usage in these eight hours eight hours eight years of time. Um any questions? I don't believe this is your first time. You did a great job taking us through that. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> What questions do we have? >> The only thing I would like to see is potential to see what we spend on water and sewer as well. That way we get a full scope picture of the whole thing. >> All right. >>

073Third. Um the I'll mention um I remind you that the we're in a u in a group with other large districts for our natural gas purchasing that saved us quite a bit. It's a mega you you approve the contract every couple years that it comes through. So that's so that's helped um as well. And and this this slide is just a synopsis of of all the items that we've that we've covered here. And um I appreciate Martin's Martin spends a lot of time fixing things, but he spends a lot of time planning things as well and looking out and forecasting and such. So um the fact that we're we're spending fewer dollars um on more expensive things now than we were eight years ago is is significant. So um so thanks to both and yes,

074happy to answer any other questions you have. Any three of us are >> uh I I think on the chart you pointed out solar investments in 2020, but I didn't see any since then. Can you just talk about our decisions with regards to adding solar and >> Sure. >> that hasn't showed back up. >> Sure. Yeah, good question. So, the um you may recall at the time we um had decided that as our roofing systems need replaced on our schools, we would consider putting solar on top of them as the roof replaces. So, we're obviously not going to put um a solar system on a roof that's 15 years old because um the the lifespan of both those systems are about 20 or 25 years. Um so, we still do that. So, we review um

075to answer your question a little more specifically, the the cost of solar has come up quite a bit. Um I think we paid $137 a kilowatt um on the two projects that we have done here um which we struck while the iron was hot for lack of a better term there and really have reaped the rewards and those costs have gone up um quite a bit. quite a bit since then. So, um the the new elementary most specifically, we we had the the solar conversation quite a bit back and forth and realized that geothermal would be a better investment in the the current time. So, that's what you'll see featured at at Maple Grove. >> Okay, great presentation. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Could I >> Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Um the first two

076sections of the presentation, the the glamorous projects, the 2030 projects funded with debt. Um and then the second section was capital projects. The the the debt funding comes and goes. Capital project funds we we receive or budget to spend every year. What's the size difference? How much are our capital project funds every year? >> They vary, but roughly around $2 million every year um on on the CPF side of things. So, um >> how many buildings do we take care of with two million? >> 20 23 physical buildings about two million square feet under roof. >> How much is that a square foot? >> Uh it's a it's about a dollar about a dollar a square foot. So we we will often times anytime anybody asks me um >> so if I've got a 1,200

077square foot home that's the equivalent of me putting $1,200 into a project every year. >> That's the same reasoning I use. Yes. Yeah. So so yes, to answer your question a little bit differently, $2 million seems like a lot. Um but we have a tremendous amount of space that we that we have dedicated for for our schools uh for teaching and learning. So, >> and I guess it's it's obvious, but at schools like North Side or Smith or Schmidt where we've got Envision 2030 projects going on, we're not going to be spending capital project funds there. >> That's right. Yeah. So, Drew Drew, he mentioned that a little bit, but Drew will still meet with those building administrators um for for the purpose of an exercise really. Um and sometimes there are some small things

078that are not within the scope of the project. He he had shown a photo of the I think the nurses station at Parkside the flooring and we just missed it. I mean we're going to miss some of these small things within the projects. Um so he can go in and and that one I think we paid out of the project fund. It was not a CPF but he can go in there after the fact and and do them you know pretty quick and easy. So um but yeah he'll meet with each of the buildings and um but those buildings north side as an example um very little if any at all CFBF money budgeted for the next year when there's a project going on. Thank you, >> Dr. Bman. >> Yes, ma'am. >> We have

079time for one more question. >> Of course. >> Just curious, um, what do you anticipate the impact of the new property tax reform to be on BCSC's ability to maintain our facilities and specifically the CPF budget? >> Yeah, it's it's a really good question. Um, so none of that none of that looks like it's going to be good news on any of our budgets. Um, and with CPF being funded strictly by the operating funds, um, the only prediction we have is it's going to be tighter moving ahead. So, we'll we'll have to make more careful decisions. Um, Drew mentioned that there's eight priority items sometimes on a school's list and we fund five, we may fund three moving ahead depending on how that how that all shakes down. So, definitely I appreciate the question and

080bringing that to light. definitely will be an impact on our CPF budgets is is my prediction. >> Thank you. And Drew and Martin, thank you for for being there tonight and for sharing this information with us. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we are now into the public comment section of our meeting. So, I'll review um our our practice there. Um, can you go back a slide? Actually need that. There you go. Okay. Uh, if you want to public uh or speak at any board meeting, when you walk in the room here at the admin building, um, there's a blue sheet on the table and you can sign in to do so during this section. We we have this at every meeting. Um, when you when you speak, I'll call you up by name off of

081the sheet and you'll have three minutes. There is a timer to help keep you on track and I do ask people to stick to the three minutes um per our policy. If if someone has spoken prior to you and they've made a similar point, it's okay for you to say that person I agree and and not speak, but you can always come up and speak again if you have have something separate to say. Um please refrain from using the names of individual students, staff members, or specific titles. It's the same thing. We want to make sure um that we're being respectful. um of everyone and um no chairs and jars from the audience. Sometimes it takes a lot of courage to come up and speak in front of a group knowing you're on YouTube forever

082and ever. Um so we want to make sure that all feel comfortable doing that. So with that, I will call the first name on the list, which is Shelley Mallister. You're gonna pass. Okay, no problem. Um and the other name I have on the list is Nick Cruiser. Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. >> We will move on to our next topic. I have no one else listed. >> All right. Thank you. Next item is request for approval. Um, under old business, uh, we have the minutes of the executive session from June 16th of 2025 and the regular school board meeting also June 16th, 2025. I request approval for the minutes uh, for item 6A, minutes from the June 16th meeting. And um, I'll just thank you, Mr. MacGyver, your your signal there. Um,

083because Whitney is online, I do believe the expectation, the rules are that Whitney has to turn on her camera while we vote and we do a roll call vote for tonight's votes. >> And she cannot vote on any budgetary approvals. I believe that's right. Remotely. >> Correct. Which are there aren't those tonight? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, again, I'll repeat. I request approval of item 6A, minutes of the June 16th executive session and regular school board meeting. Thank you. >> I move to approve line item 6A as presented. >> Thank you, Mr. Schultz. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Glick. Any comments or question by the board? >> Okay. All those in favor of approving item. >> Oh, yes. >> We will do roll call. I will start with Mr. Schultz. Approval of item

0846A as presented. >> I Mr. Glick. >> I. >> Miss Wilden is I. Mr. Stoner. >> Hi. >> Mr. Major. >> Yes. >> Miss Lloyd. >> Hi. >> Thank you. Motion passes 6. >> Thank you. Under new business, we have uh items 7A through 7F and those include the regular approvals of supplemental contracts, field trips, and professional leaves, school fundraisers, and then the claims from the July 21 tonight's docket of 1.788 million. Uh the June 2025 pre-runs of 20.1 million. And I just remind you that number is the large amount because we make our semiannual debt payments in June and December. And also the payrolls from May 16th to May 30th of just under 6.6 million. And the permission to award item 7E, permission to award construction manager as constructor at Taylor'sville Elementary. And then

085item 7F is approval of that ED flex waiver that we held the public hearing on at the beginning of the meeting. I request approval of items 7A through 7F. >> I move that we approve line items 7 A through 7F as presented. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Schultz and Mr. Major. We'll start at the end again to be consistent. Mr. Schultz, how do you vote? Yay or nay? >> I. >> Mr. Glick, >> I. >> Miss Wen votes I. Mr. Stunner. >> I >> Mr. Major. >> Yes. >> Miss Lloyd. >> Hi. >> Thank you. Motion passes 6. >> Miss Wen as I spoke to you before the meeting. Um, I did talk to Mike and Mike said that uh policy 0166 uh prior to the meeting if an individual member uh can add

086an agenda item with concurrence from the president or during the meeting items may be added by unanimous vote of the all present. And so since I I asked about a topic before the meeting, uh would you be kind enough to offer your concurrence to add that uh agenda item to the meeting? >> Given we have one member um remote and one member not here, I do not want to change the meeting agenda tonight. >> So then can we vote for it? >> You can go to vote and I think it requires unanimous or is it 43 Mr. Macyver? to amend the agenda in the course of the meeting would require the unanimous agreement of all the board members. Okay. All the board members who are present for the meeting. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah.

087So, um All right. So what I would like to have u a motion added a item to request that during the let me preface this to before I get really started um over the last month and a half I've had many conversations with people u from standing out at the fair talking to people to just this weekend uh at the grocery store talking to I don't know a handful of people. I bumped into Mr. Grimes this weekend as well and he seems to be doing pretty good and wanted to tell you all hi as well. Um but the concern that I have heard from people overwhelmingly is uh the the fact that their taxes for whatever reason continue to increase. Our spending also increases significantly from 2021 to to to this year. Our uh budget

088is up from around 125 million to 168 million. So it's up about 33 34%. And they're concerned just with the fact that uh you know our budget is rising faster than both the city or the county budgets and it's pretty significant. So the the motion I would like to make, the agenda item I would like to add would be to request that during the upcoming budget cycle that the admin and the budget team address every $1 increase of the budget from this year forward with an identified and actionable 50 cents uh reduction. So that's that's what I'm requesting to have added. So for every dollar we go up from 168 million, we try and find 50 cents in savings. >> And you're making a motion to add this to this agenda >> to this agenda

089so that we can then vote on that to ask them well in advance to have that information available to us when they uh present the budget. I would not want to ask for this the same night that we go through the budget. It's too late. So, I'm asking in advance if they can as they're looking at increasing I mean, you got to think about it. We we couldn't have $750,000 for extension of free lunch to all students, right? That's $750,000. We now have to figure out how to fund athletic trainers for both of the high schools. We've talked about prek in the past. All those things, the the the athletic trainers are going to make the cost go up. The prek is going to make the cost go up. We haven't even started to talk

090about teacher increases for teacher pay. So, I would like for this to be uh discussed, advised, requested. well in advance so that they can prepare something for us in the future. Assuming the rest of you want to vote for that. >> Am I allowed to seek a point of clarity on the motion? >> Yes, of course. I'm confused. >> Um, when you're saying identifying 50 cents, you're not obligating any reductions. You're saying simply bring savings ideas to the table as part of it. >> Identify something that would be actionable. So, if we chose to move forward with that reduction, it's there. But to just come forward with a list that's non-actionable doesn't it's not it's not a real list. So, so we're at 168 million right now based on the 8% a year that we've

091gone up each of the last four or five years. That puts us about 181 million for the next uh budget cycle if you use the same 8% projection. And so just say it's 175 180 million. Uh if you go up 12 million, how can we find 6 million in savings? Okay. The original motion was to present a budget that saves 50 cents on every dollar and it and add that to the next meeting agenda. I'm looking for specificity if that's what we're >> I would like for them to present that when they present the budget >> and when is that >> they usually present the budget what in September >> I'm just asking for clarification so we know what we're voting on >> if I recall we have is this discussion or >> so Mrs.

092>> We need a second >> Mrs. Wen so I think the request for this evening Mr. major would like to add an item to tonight's agenda which accomplishes what he has described. So the initial question in front of the board is do you want to add consideration of that item as a board to tonight's agenda? To add that item as something that you as a board would consider for tonight would require the unanimous agreement of all of the board members. If the board is not unanimous about considering it tonight, then as a board you cannot take action on it. Mr. Major can certainly share as he has done thus far or in the board input comment. I think his individual goals or hopes for that conversation at budget time, but the board as a whole

093would not be taking action on it because it would not be an agenda item. So, initial question is, is there unanimous agreement to add this item for further consideration this evening? >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. MacGyver. There was a motion. I think I still need a second of that motion. Is that fair to change the agenda or no? >> I think that would be appropriate. Then then the threshold is that the decision still has to be unanimous at the end of the day is really the threshold. Okay. I'll second. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Glick. So, the motion is to discuss a 50 cents on every dollar reduction and add that conversation to the agenda tonight. >> Mr. Schultz, >> can I of course >> I I think I'm going to vote no, but

094I do think also that Mr. Major's idea is worthy of consideration. In my experience on the board, every time we've looked at the budget, we've looked at making it as efficient as possible and I think uh Mr. Major's motion um kind of follows in that same spirit. And so I Dr. Boseman, Dr. Phillips have heard certainly what Mr. Major hopes we can accomplish. Um and I hope that's taken into consideration. As to the agenda item being added tonight, I think I'll vote now. We'll see how the vote goes. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Schultz. >> Real quick, one more point of clarification. This is a budget request. Correct. >> This is a involving a budget. >> This is just initially something to put >> a vote to put something on the agenda. So it shouldn't

095have anything budgetary restriction. >> I would have to look at the statute. I would let I assume are you asking because Miss Lloyd is Miss Lloyd is is remote. I I am inclined to agree with Mr. Glick's interpretation that the initial question is as to amending the agenda. But then if the agenda were amended at that point, I would need to look at the statute to confirm whether she would be able to vote on that particular question. >> Yeah. And I'm I'm just asking for confirmation because I know Rich just said he's probably going to vote no. So, >> okay. Are we clear what we're voting on? There was a motion to add an agenda item to save 50 cents on every dollar spent into tonight's discussion by Mr. Major and it was seconded by

096Mr. Glick. Mr. Schultz, >> do I get to explain it or do we just vote? >> You vote whether we want that on the agenda tonight. Yay. >> I'm going to explain. Um, I had a question, but we jump straight into voting here. Similar to Mr. Ster. My understanding is I just want to be very clear. This is not obligating. This is seeking to identify roughly 6 million of opportunity. I mean, I've done this on churches. I've done this on nonprofits. Three and a half% seems reasonable. So, because it's identifying and it's just discussing this, I vote I. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Schultz. Mr. Glick >> I vote nay. I think we always look for ways to be efficient and I would expect that in the next budget review as we always see

097it in our budget reviews. Mr. Stener, >> I'm going to vote nay, but I would ask that as we conclude the vote, maybe we review the timeline for the 2026 budget. If I recall, there are several workshops before any actions taken. I just like to be sure I understand when the workshops are going to happen. Thank you, Mr. Major. >> I'll vote yes, of course. >> Yep. Miss Lloyd, >> I've not been through the budget review process. This will be my first year. Uh, obviously, we'll take it quite seriously and would like to have some more conversation around what it has been like previously and what sort of cost savings could be had. I also agree that reviewing and seeing where we can trim is always really important. Um, but as far as the agenda

098tonight, uh, I I'm going to say no. >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Le. >> Dr. Stalbomb. >> Thank you. You have received a human resources recommendation in board docs. You've also received human resources recommendations on a piece of paper this evening and then an additional human resources recommendation and board docs as well because it is July. So the 17 human resources recommendations consist of nine resignations, five appointments, one leave of absence and one withdrawal. There is also one additional personnel recommendation this evening. I request that you please approve items 8, A, and B as presented. >> I move to approve line items 8, A, and B as presented. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Schultz and Mr. Major. Any questions or comments from the team before we go to vote? Okay. Um, we are voting

099on items 8, A, and B as presented. Mr. Schultz, how do you vote? >> I. >> Mr. Glick, >> I. >> Miss Wen votes I. Mr. Stener, >> I. Mr. Major. >> Yes, >> Miss Lloyd. Uh, your mic is on mute. >> Thank you. I >> Thank you. >> Okay, it is time for uh board input and review. Um, Miss Lloyd, would you mind if I asked you to go first since you're on video? >> No, of course not. Um, thanks to the presenters tonight, Dr. Stalam, I really enjoyed learning about uh what's happening with our teachers and how we can do our best work to retain uh the wonderful educators that we do have. Uh, I will say I I was uh one of the board members that attended the future educators day and

100I thought it was a fabulous uh opportunity to celebrate future educators and the students seem to really enjoy it. So, I hope that that will continue next year. Um, also wanted to congratulate Dr. Hack on her recognition from the Chamber of Commerce. Um, and just wish our students the a great last few weeks of summer. I can't believe that we are soon headed back to school. So, I hope it's a a fun, safe few weeks and um that everyone is getting their school supplies ready. >> Mr. major. >> So, unfortunately Dale's not here tonight, but Dale and I both attended the School Boards for Academic Excellence over in Cincinnati event. It was a three-day event. Great event. I learned quite a bit. Uh, I will share I was hoping to talk to him, but he's

101he's already left. We actually sat down and reviewed some notes and shared some thoughts. And so I'll I'll send that out to the board so the board has an idea as to what we saw and what we learned. Uh I also wanted to offer there's not a whole lot going on during the summer, but one thing I found pretty interesting on uh Facebook popped up that uh former East baseball player Cole Gilly was drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies. So that's that's a pretty cool thing to see. And then um the other thing I wanted to just ask and make a request to is if we could have a updated safety meeting in the coming month or two just to kind of understand uh a little bit more about how we're going to continue to protect

102our teachers and our students and schools. >> That's all. >> Thank you, Mr. Stanner. >> Um Mr. Major mentioned our colleague Dale on the trail. Just remind everybody the foundation's great place to make uh donations uh in recognition of Dale on the Appalachian Trail. Um, just because of uh some of the things that happened over the summer, I I want to uh uh commend all the folks in the high schools that are part of the staff that advise and counsel the uh cohorts that we have as they track through the school uh through the four-year school experience at high school. Um, I I continue to be amazed at some of the results we're getting from the investments we made when we set that program up. Really happy and pleased and um I'm sure everybody on

103the board wants to thank the folks that are involved in that work for what they do. And um Mr. Bernett um last meeting Congratulations. We will miss you. Uh, as evidenced by the uh, video that you helped put together from Mr. Chastain. Enjoyed hearing Mr. Chastain and I know that wouldn't be possible if if you hadn't done the work you did. So, thank you for all your work that has helped the board do a better job representing the public here. >> We've we've mentioned Dale a couple times. Just want to actually recognize him. He is on the trail, Dale on the trail, raising money for the school foundation. His dedication to completing the Appalachian Trail is pretty admirable. So, um, just hats off to him. And, um, Dr. Hack is in the room and and

104Miss Lloyd couldn't see that. So, I'm going to call for a round of applause for Dr. Hack's recognition. Communitywide, your leadership is inspiring. Thank you, Dr. Hack. You represent us well. Mr. Click, >> I just like to say thanks for the update on the changes for federal funding. Uh that came July 1 and uh hopefully that gets resolved as we move forward. And then also thank you for the turf safety update from from Friday. Um it's going to be good read through. Um other than that, nothing else more in summer, I guess. >> Okay, Mr. I was just going to say uh everyone enjoying the last weeks of summer. I know I will be on vacation with my kids and uh welcome back. I know the teachers are going to start filling the rooms and

105getting ready for the new year. Um appreciate Dr. Stalbomb the uh presentation on retention and pathways. That's that's very exciting. I know we've talked about it during CCIC. And then just to watch out for those um uh for the public in terms of safety is August 6th is the first day. So, children will be wandering streets, children will be finding bus stops. Please go slow and be courteous um as you know, parents and children identify new locations as they some sometimes may change. So, um just be on the watch out. >> Thank you, >> Miss Wen. If I could just um provide a followup. Thank you, Mr. Glick. U you mentioned the the federal funding conversation. I sent the board an update a couple of weeks ago. Um since that time we've also learned so

106the three federal grants fit title two three and four were about $800,000 a year for BCSSE and really serve our you know neediest students um reflect our deep commitment to fundamental reading skills and strong curriculum and instruction. Uh, and then title three, there are 11 teaching assistants that work with English language learners that are that are paid by that grant. So, we are committed to finding a way to make sure that those the staff who work most closely with students. Um, you know, we can keep that in place regardless of what happens. But again, echoing your your sentiment that hopefully those funds are released relatively soon. Um but the what we've learned since then is also there are adult ed programs that are part of title 2, three or four that were also uh withheld

107and are being uh not being distributed to states. And so um thanks to Mr. New and his staff over there looking for every way that they can to continue to serve as many as the adult learners in our community as possible. So, we'll keep focused and we're going to get this this school year started um you know with as close to a full staff as as we can with those grants. And um we have until we have funds until at least September 30th. Um and then you know we'll keep working towards making sure those services stay in place. >> Okay, next meeting. If you can go to the next slide. >> Thank you. Next meeting is after the first day of school. So teacher work day is Monday, August 4th. >> They will also be

108wandering the streets like the the students, Mr. Mr. Schulz. No, no, they they they will be are excited to come in already. You could really feel a difference in energy in this building today compared to the past couple of Mondays. So folks are coming back and and starting to uh to get ready for the year. Professional development day is on Tuesday the 5th. First student day on the 6th. We're excited to see you all then. And then the next Monday is the board meeting on August 11th. >> Thank you. In this building at 6:30 p.m. Uh, nothing else. We'll go ahead and adjourn tonight's meeting. Thank you, everyone.