7/19/2021 BCSC School Board Meeting Live Stream

001so good afternoon it's very nice to see all of you here we very much appreciate how much you care about our school corporation and the students in our community so this is the regular meeting of the bartholomew consolidated school corporation board of school trustees i'm here for a regular meeting here on monday july 19th so thank you all for being with us we do start our meetings each time with reflections to offer the opportunity for one of our board members to share their thoughts before the start of our meeting and this evening it is mr stenner so i will turn to him thank you dr shed i thought i'd i often share reflections on public education and the purpose behind public education and i'm leaning that direction tonight education technically if you want to define

002it is the process of facilitating learning or the acquisition of knowledge skills and experience and expertise education is different from training or learning and educational methods can include things like teaching demonstration storytelling discussion and directed research i think we use all those tools in bcsc education frequently takes place under the guidance of parents first educators and mentors however learners can also educate themselves education can take place in either formal or informal settings any experience that has a formative effect on the way that someone thinks or feels or acts may be considered educational most of the work that we do on our schools is considered formal education so there's different kinds of education and in the school buildings we do formal education formal education occurs in a structured environment where the explicit purpose is teaching students

003usually in a school building with classrooms with multiple students learning together with a trained licensed certified teacher of the subject most school systems are designed around a set of values or ideals that govern all the educational choices in their system our values and ideals are on the poster boards behind the superintendent and president tonight the choices that are guided by the values and ideals that we've chosen include curriculum organizational models design of the physical learning spaces we'll talk a lot tonight about buildings and classrooms it involves student teacher interactions methods of assessment like in indiana we've had istep and ilearn sorry i lost my place class sizes educational activities extracurricular activities and more formal education is also commonly divided into stages so that we have preschool kindergarten elementary school secondary school and then colleges universities

004and apprenticeships there have in the u.s almost always in our history been public movements for improving education and for making education reforms work to improve quality and efficiency of education [Music] or work making education more relevant for the students and their lives in many places around the world governments and courts have recognized that individuals have a right to a public education however there's no broad consensus or agreement on what education's chief aim should be different places and at different times people have used educational systems for different purposes it's a little dark but i'll share it anyway some governments in other places and times have seen education as a way to turn children into adults who will serve the state's political goals to me this seems very wrong the agreed upon purpose of education in any

005given time and place is important because it affects who will be taught what will be taught and how the education system will behave some stakeholders will stress the value of education to the individual emphasizing education's potential for positively influencing a student's personal development promoting their autonomy forming a cultural identity or establishing a career or occupation for the individual other stakeholders will emphasize the value of education's contributions to societal purposes like good citizenship public service shaping students into productive members of society and promoting society's general development i suspect that in most times and places the agreed upon purpose of public education has been a blend of these two positions somewhere in the middle with the majority of stakeholders hoping to benefit both the individual and our society in my day jobs over the years i've learned

006that it's very hard to move forward on a project or initiative without first getting everyone involved to agree to a common understanding of the purpose of the program it can be called the why for the program or project and it's at the center of what and how work will be done to the extent that we can have public input and conversations to increase our common understanding of why we all value education in bartholomew county i think we'll make better decisions at the school board i think the more we have a common understanding of what we perceive to be the purpose of our free and public education we'll all be better off and we'll be able to move forward together thank you thank you very much mr stenner for those who are able if you would

007please join us for the pledge of allegiance [Music] one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right all seven of us are here so certainly we have a quorum i'll call this meeting to order as mr stenner noted the mission and vision of our school corporation and that which guides the decisions that we make at each of our meetings are listed here on the screen as well as behind us and we can also share our high expectation objectives they are listed behind us as well and here on the screen again just to guide our decision making and our overall purpose and guidelines for the work that we do we get to start our meeting today with celebrations and we always love to celebrate our learners and i'm going to turn to

008mr lewis and mr sluter for to ref to make note of our stars for the columbus north track and field that thank you sir hello i just want to say thank you for the corporate reason for acknowledging our student athletes for their accomplishments i'm actually going to let them introduce themselves and give them the pleasure of doing this i'm tucker i can throw a ball very far i'm emily herndon and i throw ball far as well [Laughter] thank you guys so um our girls cross country team they're actually in their team camp they were supposed to come over they i don't see them yet so hopefully you know everything is okay for them coming over this way but um but coach flutter it won't be here because one of our coaches has sergey so he's

009not so he has to stay back and make sure like the kids are well taken care of so i tell coach lloyd i will come up here and speak on his behalf so one thing that i do notice about coach schluter is he's a very hard working man he always puts his our kids at the forefront what when when whatever he's trying to do or whatever he's trying to accomplish is always for the better of our student athletes and that's something that's super important to me to make sure like our coaches are putting our kids first before them before themselves i think one is important but i also think building character is more important than winning and i think a lot of our coaches are putting that that foot forward and making sure our kids

010are better when they leave than when they got here so i just want to say thank you guys for recognizing our kids and yeah thank you very good thank you thank you very much if we could have the kids stay up here just one more second uh thank you mr lewis for recognizing uh our students as mr lewis indicated mr sluter is with our cross country team and in brown county i believe or at least somewhere else doing some some training okay yes and at least four of the kids that also would have been recognized are a part of that camp uh and then of course we have these two fine individuals who performed extremely well and i love the way you described what you do you throw something really far and then you do

011congratulations to each of you on your success this year in the track and field season [Laughter] hmm thank you very much for coming out this afternoon so that we could meet and recognize your accomplishments all right as it's doing its magic before we jump to the next item yeah you want to go ahead yeah so so we had tucker up here who was the state champion uh in the shot put and and as he said he throws a shot really far and and uh actually she throws it about as far as anybody ever has in the state of indiana so congratulations to tucker and then reece kilburger stumpf uh reese not here this evening but finished second in the 600 meters we also had this team who these individuals these ladies are working with cross

012country and at the camp that's going on right now so mckenzie brianna lily and julie were third in the four by eight hundred meter relay race and then emily was up here and finished fourth in the shot put so an outstanding uh spring season for columbus north track and field team and congratulations to them great thank you very very much all right next on our agenda is an update of our plan of action for the start of the school year related to covid19 thank you dr i'll walk the board through what we have now as a reopening plan for this upcoming school year this plan was first put out in draft form i believe on thursday july 8th and then we updated that just slight revisions and sent out another draft for review by the

013community on friday july 16th and so here we are on your regular board meeting on the 19th to make some decisions and this uh what i'm presenting to you is my recommendation and as the representative for the school corporation and you have the opportunity after public comments and so forth to consider this item for approval a little bit later on in the school board meeting so in terms of our plan that is not correct okay nick might need some help here with yup just to grab that this plan is is available on our website and it is a a google document and so is available to anybody that is uh wishing to to view it and i've thrown a curve bullet next i apologize for i get that link to to fire up quickly so

014it is on our school corporation website and right now it's the one listed as july 16th reopening plan information so if you scroll down through a lot of information about the plan and yeah so if i was doing my job correctly we went straight to that link thanks nick so this is the document that we have um note at the top it does say effective july 20th which will be tomorrow if approved by the school board we listed some general information there at the top in terms of trying to cite as many sources of information as we can it also made a slight adjustment to that last sentence of the general information that bcsc will adjust the guidelines as needed based on the level of community spread so as we roll out this plan for

015you tonight to make the recommendation just based on where we currently are as a community and we'll cite some of those statistics here in just a little bit we have some information about wellness screenings so there is or are daily screening tools for parents to pay attention to a year ago during our reopening plan we recommended that we have temperature checks at the doors coming in for all students and staff members that is not the case we are not making that recommendation here but we are asking that people be vigilant in checking uh uh students students themselves parents working with their children to make sure that they have they are not symptomatic when they come into the school buildings from a face covering standpoint this is the one that we have received the most feedback

016on by far of all the mitigation strategies that we are attempting to deploy and here we are face coverings are optional for staff and students they are recommended for those at risk whatever those at risk factors may be whether it be individually or somebody at home and or not vaccinated but again it is optional for staff and students that is k through 12. there is a mention there about due to a continuing federal mandate this does come from the centers for disease control the face coverings are required on school buses the initial draft of this plan had an expiration date of september 13th we found that date was erroneous and that the indiana department of transportation the department of transportation of the indiana department of education indicated that that was in effect for some other

017public transit opportunities airplanes for example i believe that was the case dr bozeman but september 13th is not one that would apply to schools so we simply removed it since we weren't sure about that information did not want to put something in there that would be in error or in be contradictory to something that was required or mandated so that that date was taken out for the for the time being from a physical distancing standpoint we did attempt to get six feet in classrooms last year by the end of the year we were down to three in terms of that physical distancing and we will still try to maintain that physical distancing of three feet uh contact tracing will be conducted for individuals within six feet that still is the recommendations or guidelines at the

018state and federal level um use of lockers will be allowed this is a change in that when we first put together this plan last year we uh did not use lockers it just cut down on a lot of um congregation i guess in the hallways and so we were looking at that possibility again this year but based upon some feedback we decided to adjust that so lockers will be allowed however within the buildings that are using lockers we will be managing those to limit the opportunities for people to gather in large groups for periods of time from a hand hygiene standpoint just keeping up the hand sanitizer will continue to be accessible throughout all of our facilities and frequent use is recommended the students and staff members will be encouraged to frequently wash their hands

019hopefully there are some lessons or or habits that were picked up during the course of last year and then students will be provided specific opportunities to hand wash for at least 20 seconds that being the recommendation with so before and after eating recess and after using the restroom and then from health services positive case and contracts tracing contact tracing standpoint this is another one that we did yours to get some feedback about or for but this still is a requirement for us is to um identify a person who has a cover 19 positive test case and then identify all close contacts too and so we will continue to do that any when we do contact tracing and we identify an individual there is a 10-day quarantine instead of 14 which was the amount of days

020before um and then in the the additional note there in parentheses is a quarantine is not necessary for those providing proof of being fully vaccinated and free of cover 19 symptoms uh and then just to note that isolation rooms will continue to be used for individuals displaying symptoms from a cleaning and ventilation standpoint we will continue with our senate sanitization and cleaning schedules for the cafeteria restrooms and other high-touch surfaces and areas as well as maintaining safety and sanitation procedures in locker rooms and restrooms that were employed last year and then the increased building ventilation strategies that we are working toward and will be a part of our plan tonight as we continue to renovate our buildings and find opportunities to improve ventilation we are doing that from a visitor standpoint we did not have

021really any visitors during the last school year book buddies for example a very popular program we cut that out during the course of last year that will be back as well as other opportunities for visitors parents caregivers to enter the building at this point in time we are still not permitting joining students for lunch both because of the additional number of people that that are in the cafeteria as well as as just additional opportunity for spread from a school bus standpoint i've already mentioned that these face coverings on buses will be required in compliance with the current federal mandates and note that the expiration date was removed from the school meals standpoint the cafeteria will be used during lunch and alternate spaces utilized that's in there because we did take away a lot of the

022opportunities from use of cafeteria last year or made sure to spread students out a little bit further i'm aware that in many of our buildings there are opportunities that were found and enjoyed by having students spread out through the building so i'm sure talking to columbus east columbus north there may be still continued uses of the various spaces they have in their building to do lunch but they are allowed to use the cafeteria similar to how they did in the past this upcoming year individually plated meals so that's just where our cafeteria our food service providers will be getting the plates ready for students just cutting down the number of touches that might occur and then other strategies also utilized to reduce the time waiting in line water fountains the use of personal water bottles

023recommended touchless water bottle filling stations will continue to be available and then those filling stations as well as water fountains sanitized regularly field trips overnight field trips will be analyzed uh reviewed on a case-by-case basis and then potentially approved the the cross-country event going on right now is an overnight uh camp that was approved um and then if traveling we will make sure that we follow all restrictions to the destination area whatever those restrictions might be from an athletics and extracurricular activities standpoint the ihsaa which is the indiana high school athletics association and isma which is the school music association have done a nice job putting together guidelines to follow we will follow those and then seating capacities at the fall events will be determined as we get closer to those dates uh those are

024going to be a few weeks away the first day of school is about three weeks away right now and so events will be starting around that time but as we work with the county we'll establish those specific guidelines for capacity athletics and extracurricular events could you get out of that naked go back to that second link then so as we um ponder this reopening plan as you do and end up making a decision here toward the end of the meeting uh data that we had available to us um comes from both the local and state levels specifically we're aware that there are increased cases happening across the country we're aware that the delta variant seems to be the majority of those cases and perhaps is more highly contagious and we'll continue to evaluate the the

025spread of covet 19 both in the state and in our community but i want to call your attention back to this website this was the one used a year ago first started with us putting out metrics and then the metrics being assigned to the site the communities coveted 19 task force's website the the pdf form that was sometimes available mondays and thursdays last year is not the same as we start this year but this is a site that you can go to on a daily basis and see what the updates are in terms of cases so whether it's new positive cases as of july 14th covet hospitalizations from that date or the test turnaround time those are three key measurements that are used here and were used by us a year ago when we set

026up metrics to determine how we would handle uh the reopening of school and then it does have uh data from the past so you can look at the last two months or at least beginning with june 1st that trend of of data from a hospitalization standpoint you see that number has remained low in our community if you scroll down next the positive cases has ticked up a little bit but to put that in perspective in terms of how tall that bar graph seems to be you are talking about a difference between three and five as those numbers go up so it's just ticking up a little bit that range from june 1st has basically been zero to five so the five we have right now is at the top of that range in terms of

027positive cases and the seven a week or seven day moving average has just ticked up to two i believe based upon those last last few numbers so i just i call that out for you in terms of another source or a source the source to go through your local go to here locally for information about copic cases and then if we can go back to the presentation the next page take it from here thank you for bailing me out with those links so here is just the state data so besides our local data and the information just shared we also have the covet 19 data from the state of indiana as we had set our red yellow green metrics up last year sometime i believe in october the state of indiana came out with this

028set of metrics which is listed or or defined on the left hand side and it goes blue yellow orange red in terms of severity blue being the best case scenario for any county at this point in time a week ago where 0.0 uh which is the best number you could have we're now at 0.5 but either one of those numbers 0.0 or 0.5 keep us in the blue and keep us at again the best color quote unquote that we could have we do have a county in yellow up to our north east and that would be shelby county the other counties i think are obviously blue around us i think the one to our east there is probably dearborn uh would be the other yellow county uh kind of close to us so that's that's

029how we are as a as a state right now that's the most recent data that came out uh last wednesday that we would have so that's what i'm proposing recommending in terms of uh us as a school corporation again we are aware of um the the spread of covenant 19 and where it is at at least i didn't cite the national statistics but we're aware of them as well as what's happening here state and locally we're also aware of the the guidelines that have been set forth by the centers for disease control by the american academy of pediatrics by our indiana department of health and those guidelines do recommend face coverings the cdc recommends face coverings for anyone unvaccinated as is i believe the wording the american academy of pediatrics released information just today so

030timing has been interesting but just today in regards to face coverage being required for all and i think the reason for that was was based upon just logic that if you try to require for unvaccinated individuals the challenge of of identifying unvaccinated individuals in our case in our public situation is is extremely difficult uh really no way to to do that for students and or staff members so that really leaves only the the known unvaccinated individuals being our our students who are from two to eleven ages two to eleven it's our recommendation that we don't just take that one group and have them wear mass that there are other health related things that we in talking with our internal people whether it be our school administrators having conversations with with our teachers association and others

031believe that there's there's value in starting the school year without masks and that we again make it optional that individuals who wish to wear mass certainly can and then i would add and it's not cited here but we we tried very hard last year to have options and though we were under specific requirements whether it be primarily from the state of indiana and governor's executive orders that we had options for our parents and students and so we provided two different virtual options a year ago and they were very popular we started the school year with 3 200 students enrolled in a virtual option and finished the year still with about 1700 and because of that and knowing how popular virtual options were given the circumstances we invested in in a full-time virtual option and so

032we have our columbus virtual pathway and i know there can be debates about that virtual option versus other virtual options that we provided example bridge last year but it is the the single pathway that we now have available we have a director for that program we have classroom teachers for that program we have special educators we have english language learner teachers we've invested in resources to make that virtual option work and so if if a person does choose to go that route it is available we have over a couple of hundred at this point in time that have chosen to go to go that route so that's where we are with our recommendation and certainly entertain any questions or comments from the board at this point before we go into public comments and then have

033other agenda items that will come up prior to the vote that you will have so colleagues are there questions that you have about the proposed plan i do have one dr bills thank you dr roberts and i wonder if you could go into the rationale just a little bit more about the not requiring masks for 12 and under just pulling up some information here dr bills thank you you're welcome i started to get into that a little bit so if we look at one the data that we have right now in the spread of covet 19. if if we if we continue to require mass now when is it that we don't um or stop uh and again i say that very aware of of where cases are and there's always a potential for those

034numbers to take out but at least as a recommendation today for the numbers we have and to start school that's the information we have in front of us we also recognize that although we have recommendations coming to us at all levels really whether it be the federal level the state level or the local level that that they are recommendations and we've tried to adhere to those uh to the degree that is possible but no longer any requirements the governor's mass quarter expired on on july 1st with his most recent executive order that applied to schools the cdc has recommended that but they've required it on public transit so there are situations or circumstances where requirements have been put forth but they have not for schools at this point and and it's been left to local

035control that that at the end of the day that's where our even our state if we would listen to our governors or state legislators um it is local control and so with that and no requirements additionally we have shared our plan with the bartholomew county health department and received support uh from the health department for the the plan as presented initially for the first time on july 8th um and then i started to go to the logic that as we look at masks we really were at is it all or none because the the all piece is is excuse me the unvaccinated piece which is a recommendation again by some entities including the indiana department of health really isn't enforceable that that we would be enforcing it for our two-year ages 2 to 11 because

036we know they're not vaccinated but we couldn't enforce it it would be very much the honor system for every other child from age 12 to whatever age as well as all of our adults and so if we push that aside then and review the all versus non-circumstances uh and when i say none again we are recommending use for those who are unvaccinated or at risk we follow that side um it seems odd to me that that we would indicate that or even that the spread of covet 19 in this community is going to fall on the shoulders of our ages 2 to 11. and and um it is the although certainly cover 19 is contracted by all individuals and certainly there are serious health issues sometimes for for all ages it is the population that

037has the less uh spread uh and it also has the less severity again recognizing all the cases that have happened across the nation and in the world and so it did and then our conversations internally with with staff about starting the school year in the best way possible educationally socially emotionally psychologically relationships all the other things that seem so important to get school started it was a similar conversation dr bill says we had last year with starting school period right in that we believed it was very important to at least get kids in the building even for us for a couple of days because of those relationships that were formed so similarly um but different because i think everybody sees a starting school i don't i don't know of any school corporation in indiana maybe

038there are some across the country i'm sure there are that that are thinking about doing something different than having five days of in-person learning to start but i'm not sure i know vinnie um and so that's perhaps a given now so it came down to one of those mitigation strategies to deploy and we believe that we deployed them effectively last year we managed and that that we we can begin the school year with with mass optional for all individuals whether it be staff or or students thank you other questions of the plan yes mr stenner thank you dr shed uh the last sentence in the first box uh on the revised opening plan about flexibility and adjusting the guidelines based on the progress of the disease in our community talk a little bit about your

039experience over the past year you've kind of turned on a dime several times readjusted plans as things are unfolding what do you think that'll look like we're four weeks away from the start of school now yeah so thanks for that question mr stinner um i think the most important quality that we can show at this point in time is agility the ability to change direction quickly and and i think as a school corporation we also always have to be actual and and hopefully we demonstrated that last year and need to be prepared to demonstrate that again um and so we start with a plan we we continue to review uh regularly this is a weekly situation for us every week as a cabinet we are digging into the data the circumstances reviewing with whether it

040be our our principals teachers associations all our internal stakeholders as well as then reaching out and having conversation be at the coba 19 task force city and county government other business leaders um the hospital of course columbus regional health and then dr nabalski at the bartholomew county health department those are our routine conversations that at a minimum are held weekly and we will continue to do that and as if circumstances dictate uh we will we will pivot and change now i've not given you specific metrics that we did a year ago that would say on this day at this moment if this happens we're changing um but but i think conversation is necessary to understand at least what those parameters might be and and we'll continue to have those with with the individuals entities that

041we work with to see if something more concrete needs to be set forth but at this moment of time i do not have any metrics for you to indicate that's how that would how that would work thank you you're welcome other questions i just had a question regarding social distancing abilities in some of our elementary schools knowing that you know that is the population we've already talked about is potentially being at more risk and can you speak to the possibilities of that yeah um ms wilton thanks for that question i i think that we probably have better opportunities this year and starting with three feet versus six than we did a year ago and for a few reasons but a primary one is the the dollars that we've invested through uh grants to increase numbers

042of teachers in our classroom and therefore decrease student-to-teacher ratios and so with the the with the primary focus or at least one focus being on elementary grade levels and then primarily um grade levels k one two three with uh reading and so forth um we we have numbers that classroom numbers that are as best way to describe it as as good as possible or at least as good as we've had in a very very long time that lesser numbers in a classroom obviously provides more square feet per child and that allows us to physical distance uh the the most difficult physical distancing experiences we had last year were actually the secondary level and um they will continue to be for a variety of reasons whether it's the size of the bodies or number of kids

043in just some classrooms it is not likely or at least i'm going to cite this and please correct me one of my categories i'm wrong it's not likely for us to have 30 in an elementary school classroom that happens a little more frequently in the secondary classroom tries but still even with with increasing student teacher ratios or student excuse me teacher numbers at the secondary level that should help there as well it remains a challenge it's just regarding the screening i'm sorry i cut you off mr gramps i'm sorry have we ever screened a student out based on temperature screening and all in the whole year and all the i'm just curious i'm sure there was one somebody was somewhere miswell the the temperature screenings um became i credit our schools on doing a great

044job of efficiently getting individuals in and through it to wherever they needed to go it was rare extremely rare for it to screen somebody else now there could be a couple things with that right that one maybe this screening tool was was not not working as well as it could have been but the other is that parents did a nice job of screening at home and all and there should be less circumstances there but but it was it was rare for us to catch someone i just had a couple questions not really specific to the reopening plan but part of maybe something to consider in terms of mitigation strategies could you refresh my memory on how many kids were vaccinated at north and east last year during the clinics at schools clinics stop someone the

045number of the total number of students that end up being vaccinated at east to north was it about 200 total yeah okay 100 and some at north and then 60 or so so around 200 okay well and i was just you know thinking i mean in an effort to get as many kids vaccinated as possible if if that might be worthy of consideration again sometime soon after the opening of school and and i don't know about the possibility of either he at north side or central as well [Music] yeah mr grabs we uh so last spring we worked with the bartholomew county health department columbus regional and others to to have those clinics available for parents to choose and and we've continued to use our buildings so tatersville elementary school was used uh this this

046summer at least sailors who have not if not another one so if there are opportunities i will continue to work with local entities to make sure opportunities are available for people who want to be vaccinated there are other questions that you had no that's it okay thank you any others all right thank you you're welcome i think you described it as well as we can all right next on our agenda is the opportunity for public comments and i do have eight individuals listed i will ask that those who are choosing to speak will welcome your thoughts please note that we have listed a three-minute time limit and this lovely little thing to my right will be counting for you and i've understood it will not make me jump out of my seat when it goes

047to zero please be respectful of everyone and i might encourage you if you've if most of the major points that you have made that you are hoping to make have already been made please just let us know that so that we know it was a concern of you but we have all we have basically heard the intent or the the majority of your concern so with those guidelines i'll turn to megan johnson if you'd step forward please please and if you'll use the microphone hello uh first and foremost uh we believe the board needs to be representing our district a bit better um there's still no clear line of communication no community two-way communication we're here you're there and that's about all we get uh we parents have expectations we want to be notified if

048there will be any discussion about equity sexuality or gender identity while at school we don't want our children to be asked which pronouns they prefer if you don't know their name we simply you just if if you are unaware of their pronouns we simply just ask that you call them by their name we want our classrooms to be free of any flags symbols or political advocacy we are here because we want our children to have an unbiased education and that is our right we demand to know your position on crt and any other discriminatory teachings and how you would be preventing these things from entering our classrooms we have some very vocal bcsc staff who give us reasons to question their intentions for example and i quote just because you are a parent doesn't mean

049you know everything or necessarily know what is best for your child i disagree we absolutely disagree as parents we most definitely know what is best for our children another quote if you truly knew history you would support curriculum reform and the tearing down of statues and lastly and i quote trust me if there was a crt club here i would be the president of it i'd just like to know some how we can find transparency with all these things okay uh we are here because we are standing up for our children and teachers that also believe children should have an unbiased education and we are not going away we look forward to reviewing the curriculum with you in the days to come thank you thank you very much next on the list is angie grimes

050if you come forward hi i'm a mom of five two have graduated from columbus north high school i have one that's in high school now and i have one that's getting ready to go into middle school and one that's in elementary school and i debated on whether to talk about this tonight because it wasn't exactly on the agenda but you just brought up a great topic and that's the topic that i would like to speak about tonight in the last few weeks the nea has been pushing for required and mandatory covid19 vaccines for all of our children to return back to the classroom this fall i want to tell a story so back in april we were sent a survey asking about whether we agreed with having coveted vaccines given on school property during school

051time it happened so quickly that most of us didn't have time to do much about it we responded i responded but nothing was done at that point other than they pushed forward with it and i wrote a letter in april to our principal and to our superintendent asking those questions and i did receive a message back today saying that those were sent to the indiana department of health i did not receive any response back from the department of health at any point um we chose to keep our daughter home that day that those were given and here's the reason why my daughter was in class speaking to a friend they were talking about the vaccine and she stated that she was not going to get the vaccine because she had coveted she had a very

052mild mild case of covid and she said that for her it was not worse than the flu for her well a teacher overheard her and reprimanded her told her she needed to get the vaccine proceeded to embarrass her in front of her classrooms in front of her classmates and then proceeded to show them a video the video was something called vox which is an american entertainment company and that video was shown called coronavirus is not the flu it is worse what gave her the authority to give my daughter medical advice that's my job she doesn't know her medical history she doesn't know her religious beliefs what authority did this website give it's an entertainment company how do they know what's best for our children there's so many things that i want to ask and i

053see i'm already running out of time i've i've got pages of information i wanted to share because there's so much to say but our children have been exposed to a lot of things in the last year and a half fear instability and shaming so i asked the school board what are you going to do in the future from preventing that from happening and are you going to be held responsible if a student is harmed during school hours on your property with the coveted vaccines because it's fact that children are suffering from coping vaccines not all but there are some in their permanent damage thank you very much justin stott thank you for allowing me to speak i told my kids before i came here tonight that i thought it was real important for us as

054americans to be able to speak and to hope that the people that we elected would listen so that's why i'm here not only because i feel like i've got something to say but also because i hope that us as parents can show that to our kids that we need to be courageous be more involved with what's going on in our communities and speed to not be afraid to speak out i'm empathetic towards your guys's situation what a weird time to be a parent and a weird time to be a kid or also what a weird time to be in charge of a program that is educational to kids i run a baseball program here in columbus very active in it we have about 600 kids this year and we didn't have any masks we didn't

055contact trace and every weekend in columbus we have thousands of kids that come here and have fun and we're not having major outbreaks we're not telling kids that they can't play for 14 days and nobody is reporting that to anybody last year there were four thousand forty-two kids that were contact traced within bcsc i would like to know if it's possible how many of those kids did end up getting code 19. if we don't know that number we probably should is it doing anything if you had that up if each one of those kids had 10 let's actually let's say 75 of those kids were 75 of that number were students and each one of them lost 10 learning days that's 30 000 learning days that's 168 school years cumulative that were lost you want

056to know why our test scores were so bad i think you spoke on it we're lacking and facilitating formal learning we need to have our kids in school you guys were elected to make choices that were based on what's best for our kids education and i understand that the indiana state health department the federal level is saying that we have to contact trace so i'm asking you as somebody who has a little bit more pull than what i do to please write these people call these people let them know that our kids need to be in school that we can't send somebody home for 10 days or 20 days from school because they were they looked at a kid wrong and a teacher thought that maybe they might have been close and in some cases

057it's 10 days they've already it was six days that they were last next to that kid and then they get sent home for another 10 days my experience was that my son he did fine in school honestly but i was concerned because he never had homework at the latin the second semester why don't you have homework in seventh grade because it was to keep to let the other kids catch up there were so many kids missing school last year that we had to stop really challenging kids to learn so that we could catch other kids up all i'm asking is that we do what's best as far as keeping the kids in school fight for our kids at the state and federal level to help keep them in school thank you autumn retrieval hi i'm

058adam strieval and i'm here as a parent i have two children they are ages six and ten so they are unvaccinated they are not eligible for vaccination i'm here to speak about the face covering part of the reopening plan so i appreciate your efforts and time i know that it's hard to come up with a reopening plan and and i do appreciate that energy that you put forth a couple points that i want to share with you though the cdc and the american academy of pediatricians have announced a recommendation that all unvaccinated children under the age of 12 or other unvaccinated children should require wearing a mask this is really important in reducing the spread and keeping covet at bay all elementary children under the age of 12 would benefit from having a mask requirement

059my children will wear a mask if they return to in-person learning but that doesn't mitigate all of the potential transmission risk it's much better and much safer when all children are wearing a mask because you keep the transmission risk very low i would also say that the online option my children did complete the bridge option last year and they want to return to in-person learning i want them to return to in-person learning but i want them to do that in a safe manner i believe as a community we want to protect our children and we want to keep them as safe as we possibly can this is one small measure that would allow children to return to school in a much safer environment i would also recommend that with the virtual academy a pathway that's

060being offered it's not necessarily a viable alternative for in-person learning they're not the same thing so for a parent who wants a child to return to in-person learning it really kind of puts a it makes me a little nervous to return children to an in-person classroom without a mask requirement simply because they are not eligible for the vaccine yet and the all or none statement that was made before all elementary students under the age of 12 are unvaccinated i don't have the choice to vaccinate them yet and that's a concern the children who are over the age of 12 if their parents decide to vaccinate them they have that choice and so they can send their schools to send their children to school without a mask knowing that their children have some immunity and if

061they choose not to vaccinate that's their choice as well but that choice is not one that's been given to me yet so i'm asking that you consider having a mask mandate for the elementary students until at least a vaccine is available once a vaccine is available for that age group then i think the mask requirement could be optional at that point so i hope that you consider that i hope that you also consider the center for disease control i also hope that you consider the recommendations from the american academy of pediatricians these recommendations are made by health experts not politicians they are looking for the well-being and the health of our students and our children as a community please let's make sure that we keep our young children as safe as we possibly can thank

062you thank you very much deborah stapler all right thank you very much tamia oreo evening i just wanted to speak to you briefly as a pediatrician to advocate for my patients particularly those who are under 12 and are not old enough for them or their parents to make that choice as to whether or not they would be vaccinated if you ask any pediatrician what last year was like you'll get a couple different answers first of all you might get a smile at the fact that um something called rsv and influenza that usually plague us every single winter for months on end was basically non-existent last year that is a great testament to the fact that masks do work to decrease viruses whether or not you like them i understand that there are many other emotional

063aspects to the topic but of course while that was one good thing there was much about last year that was awful for all of our kids and our teenagers we saw kids suffering from anxiety and depression we saw new eating disorders we saw excessive weight gain we saw kids struggling with food insecurity and struggling with their schoolwork for these reasons we all in my practice five of us agree with the american academy of pediatrics guidelines that excuse me that came out today that we want kids in school that is the primary number one goal um and and so i think we're all on the same page about that that aap does recommend masking for the reasons that have been pretty um well i think elucidated here um i think one comment i would make dr

064roberts mentioned um we don't anticipate and i would agree with him that the spread of covet in our community would be based on two to eleven-year-olds we've all heard that they tend to get sick less often perhaps even transmitted less often but the part that would concern me as a pediatrician who has patients in elementary schools would be the unvaccinated adults whether that's the teachers the staff and the visitors i know that we're going to allow visitors back in the schools i think that's great i think book buddies as an example is a fabulous program my kids are all out of elementary school but i used to spend all of my days off volunteering at parkside when they were there and i hope for other parents that they get the chance to do that but

065the more adults that are in the building who are unvaccinated the more that you can have spread in an elementary school that maybe isn't pinned on on the students who are there i understand that there are challenges i understand that there are many families who feel like they want to make that choice whether their children are vaccinated if they're over 12 and whether their children can wear masks but i do feel like we have a responsibility to protect the younger children as the previous speaker mentioned whose families don't have that choice um the delta variant as dr roberts indicated is here um our luckily our numbers are still pretty good here and as the gentleman who is has run a baseball program and commented the numbers this summer have been great lots of experts felt

066like it would get worse when school started and it's already started to get worse the last thing i would comment based on mr grimes mentioning an incentive for children or students to get vaccinated and as many people said there may be some reasons not to do that within the schools i hope we can highlight the change to the quarantine policy that fully vaccinated people do not have to quarantine for 10 days whereas it was 14 days last year i think that is something important that will motivate many people to choose to be vaccinated if they're old enough thank you thank you excuse me so we have to be respectful of everyone who've signed up um you're welcome to speak to the rest of us after our meeting but let's be respectful so we can hear

067everyone next on the list is amy is it hail hi everyone first of all i just wanted to thank all of you for what you've done for our kids especially over the last year as others have said i know it's it's been really difficult and so know that we do appreciate it much of what i was going to say tonight has already been said by dr iorio and autumn in particular i'm also a local physician and of course you know i would urge you to consider listening to the guidelines that have been laid out by public health experts and we talked about the cdc and aap guidance in particular you know for me this is really a discussion about public health and i know we all care about our kids and the health of our

068kids that's that's something all of us here have in common um i also did want to highlight what autumn said um i'm also a parent and right now i feel like i don't have a lot of choices once i have the choice to vaccinate my kids i'll feel a lot more comfortable you know sending them to school but as i don't have that choice right now i really would ask that you consider especially in the elementary schools a universal masking policy so thank you very much thank you and anna tennis all right thank you all right that is the end of the list of those who have signed up thank you very much for all of your comments i'll turn next to what um the next item on our agenda is our what and board

069commendations so i'll turn to colleagues mr grimes yeah i have a few here most in regards to c4 teachers and students who have been working very hard this summer for anybody who went out to the county fair this year each evening c4 was represented and distributing information about the program and just spreading a public awareness of what the program is all about miss circe c4 ag teacher as we speak is holding an ffa student officer retreat at the ffa future farmers of america indiana headquarters in franklin mr johnson the c4 construction and architectural teacher has worked with students each week this summer working on their build for exhibit columbus and is coming together very well also this summer the international hosa which is future health professionals held a leadership conference virtually june 23rd to 26

07029 students from c4 participated largely under the leadership of c4 teachers stacy horn and jennifer stein weddle who sponsor the future health professionals club and to mention just a few specific students who did exceptionally well and again mind you this is a international leadership conference matthew liu who placed seventh in general chemistry first in biochemistry and first in organic chemistry aisha eris who placed third in leadership sripada moon jaleuri and hillary yang who together were first place in forensic medicine and then sripada also placed eighth in biology so congratulations to c4 students teachers and all the great work they've completed since school ended last school year excellent thank you very much for sharing that are there other commendations yes dr i know lots of organizations and people do their best to help students get ready

071for school with school supplies that's always a busy time in the summer and i want to commend the residents at four seasons that helped stuff 50 backpacks for bcsc students all right nice thank you there are other commendations i will offer one we need to offer a wonderful shout out to david miller who wears at least three hats he's our dean of students at east along with being the assistant athletic director and assistant football coach he will be honored and named to the 2020 indiana high school football hall of fame class as a player and his induction will be in malt in may of 2022 so our commendations to mr miller doctor said i have one more that i felt to get to any of you and also i did not mention when tucker was

072here tucker smith who we recognized earlier has been named the gatorade indiana boys track and field player of the year so it's a very prestigious award so congratulations for one more recognition for tucker thank you very much school board member reports our colleagues had the opportunity to be in any committees yes mr grimes one quick one here dr shedd so the the school foundation annual campaign uh letters have just been recently sent out and the school foundation also just recently since the end of school has awarded seventeen student scholarships totaling nearly ten thousand dollars as well so fingers crossed for another good school foundation campaign again this year great thanks for sharing that others i don't ever want to forget you on my left side over here [Laughter] our cabinets reports i'll turn to mr

073phillips for our financial report you have a clicker up there mr phillips a good evening um my name is chad and i don't throw a ball as far as tucker smith does not even close nor even its weight um so uh we're all ready for something boring after last year and 2021 from a financial standpoint is shaping up exactly like we expect it to be so nice boring report for you for the second quarter financials this is our revenue report again about where we would expect it to be education funds a little bit behind where we were last year but all of those are mainly cash flow issues just money coming in a different six-month period than they did during the uh the prior year operations is up over last year but if you remember

074we didn't collect property taxes until the third quarter of 2020 as they delayed those being due last year this is the revenues with taxi anticipation warrants and transfers and the discrepancies between the prior year and the current year are simply because we borrowed less money this year on our tax anticipation warrants than what we had in prior years and again you can see the the discrepancy in the operations fund is the other direction but again that's just because of the timing of property tax collections um on an expenditures from an expenditure standpoint this is the education fund we are running a little hotter than what we normally would in the salaries category but that is entirely expected we do pay out all retirees in may and so we have a large expenditure there but we

075also paid out coveted stipends to all employees during that second semester and so at the end of this third quarter we will be coming to you with a request for an additional appropriation not only to cover the additional salaries and benefit salary related benefits due to those but also the nine percent increase that we gave to support staff starting on july 1 and when we negotiated contract with the teachers association this fall because of the increase in state support that they passed during the last budget session we do expect to spend more than what we had planned last fall when you approved these appropriations for teacher salaries and so we do expect mainly to come to you with an additional appropriation request entirely related to salaries and salary related benefits and for the new board

076members that's simply last fall you approved a specific dollar amount to be spent from the education fund and we expect to spend more than that during the course of this year so we're required to have a public hearing and to have your approval to spend that additional money we imagine that it's money that we have it's just in a different pocket at the moment that's correct not only do we have um about we started the year with about a three million dollar cash balance in the education fund and during the second half of this year because of the increase in state support from the legislature the legislature's actions we will collect more than what we anticipated so our revenues will be higher than what we anticipated as well so yes there's money available to pay

077for you're welcome on the operations side very similar story where you would expect us to be but again we do expect because we have so many support staff that are paid from the operations fund also we'll come to you with an additional appropriation probably in september or october for the operations fund just related to salaries and salary related benefits on the operating referendum side exactly where we would expect to be at this time of this time of year and we do expect you can see we're not quite to 50 percent which is where you guess we might be around this time on the salary side but we do have a large number of teachers that are with us that are going to qualify for the referendum increase this fall who didn't the first semester of

078this calendar year and so we do expect to get up to that full appropriation for 2021. and this is that slide i added last time just again to highlight what are we spending the operating reference money on what are we getting for those dollars that that we worked so hard to get and that the public was very supportive of and basically during this first six months of this year 490 teachers made about 3 600 more in salary because of that because of the operating referendum and just under a thousand support staff made an average of uh almost 700 more during that period of time and then we have this time we hadn't done this yet in the first quarter but we did spend the entire hundred fifty thousand dollars towards our school resource officers and

079four hundred thousand dollars to update the bus fleet and so those are the safety security side of the operating referendum and then just uh again to highlight um basically we spent seven over seven percent more on salaries and salary related benefits for our employees because of the operating referent and then on uh the month end balances just like to show this to you and it highlights also the the the health fund which is important the health and dental fund but education is again tracking at the similar rate but we borrowed less and so that's the gap between the prior year and the in the current year operations fund is the same way it's tracking the same way that it did last year with the gap for the lower um the lower tax anticipation warrant um

080the operating referendum fund we collected property tax distributions in may and june and so we finally got into positive territory on that more than what we owe in the temporary uh tax anticipation warrants that we borrowed in january and then health and dental continues to be on a positive trend um as we made some corrections there and and the health and dental does include those balances do include the transfer that's in the request for your approval this evening any questions on the quarter two financial report questions yes yes thank you remind me so this uh chart the one on the bottom left uh operating referendum fund there was a balance at the beginning of how when did the first dollars come into the operating referendum fund for us what's the relationship between a taxpayer making

081property tax payments and in funding this referendum fund good question i should have done the same thing um in january that i did at the end of december because at the end of december the the white line is that ticks temporary tax anticipation warrant i should have put it down to zero at the beginning of january because we had started january 1 with zero borrowed money on those temporary tax anticipation warrants we do every year until we started collecting property taxes in may and june so we got one early distribution in may we ask the county every year to give us uh 80 of what they've collected to that point in time because they're just collecting interest on it instead of us at that point and of course people pay their if they're on escrow

082you know they're paying throughout the course of the year so in may we always ask them to give us an early distribution so the first dollars came into the operating referendum fund in may from property taxpayers than the rest at the end of june thank you the same thing will happen november december this year and then we'll pay the tax anticipation warrants back are there other questions all right thank you very much and dr shed i'm just going to preface um mr funk's presentation really quickly while i'm up here and kind of transition um just to set the stage for as you're looking at the myriad of needs that we have for uh our facilities and the number of acres that we have under roof in our district um we do and mr funk will

083be pointing out the funding sources for each of these but i just want to give a little bit of background really quickly before he and dr bozeman come up the three different funding for sources for tonight's projects are a lot of the hvac work is going to be done with federal stimulus money that was one of the main points of emphasis for that most recent esser or cair's act of dollars was that you could improve air quality in buildings and so that's that's one of the big expenditures and so that's federal dollars on the uh athletic baseball and softball projects this one is one that again the new board members might not be as familiar with but back in 2010 after the um after the great recession when the the stimulus package at that point

084time came out we were already doing our big you know 90 million dollar 89 million dollar renovation at our high schools well the federal government came out and said if you do a big project and do a public infrastructure project the interest you pay on bonds we will give back to you in a rebate after you make those payments and so we did that from 2010 through 2018 when we refinanced that bond for a much lower interest rate and it was to our financial advantage to stop getting the rebates and start getting paying the lower interest rate so but that ended the rebates but there was still 2.9 million dollars left in build america bond dollars is what they were we call them bab dollars around the office you'll hear the term bab even with

085the board members i think you've heard that before and i think mr funk refers to that way so those are those are dollars that we decided to put towards the high school facility projects just to do some of the things that didn't get included didn't get included in the original 89 million dollars and then the third part is as we always do the the larger facility improvement project at um at parkside will be paid for with bonds that are timed with when current debt rolls off to keep the tax rate flat so any there's no approval for you tonight that'll come later in the next few meetings and i apologize for all the hearings that we will have to do then because there's a lot as we refinance the central project and issue new bonds

086for the project for parkside but i wanted you to be familiar with those three funding sources that's a nice preview and does keep the blood pressure down just a tad so thank you for that all right need we have an introduction good evening dr roberts and and board members since we're starting with sharing tucker stories tucker as part of a senior project i was approached that the the shot put pit careful i say that was not large enough for tucker so we as part of a senior project they expanded that which i hadn't realized that was a need until i saw him throw and realized it was not big enough because he was throwing outside of the ring so i'm not going to cover that here tonight but since we're all opening with with stories

087of tucker or mentions at least i appreciate the time tonight uh we'll try to keep things as brief as possible we do have a lot of things to cover um jim funk with cso and brad here with us as well um it may we may have three board members that are new to us since jim has been here to present last so um so jim funk has been with us well before i was in this role he knows more about our buildings than i do each every four years we do a facility master plan update to where cso comes in and really does an in-depth uh dive and review of our current state of our facilities hvac pavement improvements basically everything that is under our umbrella and um gives us some data to share with

088you all which which is uh if you've been here you're familiar with that and then recommendations on on things we should focus on in the future so we've done that for for several years now 2016 most recently and then we were a little bit delayed getting that out it was a little harder to get into buildings and meet the principals and of the such but but mr funk's going to lead us through that master plan update for your review and then we'll talk about potential 21 projects coming up thank you dr bozeman president shad dr roberts board thank you it's been a little while since i've been here 2016 with our our last time we did this and did it before that in 2011 and then all the way back as far as 2005 so

089you'll see something here familiar if for four of you for three of you'll see something that you've not seen before but uh just to talk a little bit about what's happened since 2016 a big push on security across the district so a lot of effort spent putting lockable door hardware on all the classrooms um securing outside the buildings new camera systems really bringing a whole new level of security across inside and outside buildings along with new procedures for that and then playgrounds we hit every playground at elementary schools brought them all into ada compliance with new and safe structures and play surfaces and then at both high schools we did a little bit of work um the turf fields were both in need of replacements both those that were replaced uh the bleachers at east

090were replaced as well as both auditoriums saw some improvements and then um transportation maintenance building one of those long kind of overdue projects um received a good bit of work to expand a lot so you can fit in outfits more buses and all the buses i believe can fit there um and then a little addition on to the the building and a lot of work on the exterior a new roof uh completely new exterior to put insulation the building actually didn't have insulation before on the original part so that looks a lot different now and i think functions a lot better and then a new soccer complex out north of parkside so that's a little delayed and getting done due to covid with some delays and materials and things but i think now pretty much

091complete um and then some additional things that happen with uh roofs a lot of roofs and think about number of roofs in your building you almost need to do one or two a year to keep up with your 18 school buildings and then your other accessory buildings and then just boilers and chillers and things like that that only last so long and you need to keep your schools operating so so a couple new focus areas that really dr bozeman brought on and you've probably seen most of these is one of the sustainable energy management program it really puts a goal on each building as to energy usage and what it should be and then seven um guiding values and principles things that were um i love this document i think cabinet came up with this

092and but it really emphasizes a lot of the qualities you've been doing for years it just was never documented probably the big part of this was the work over the past couple years with all the lighting and interior exterior was replaced with leds and that is a one of the best ways to improve energy at each building that cuts your energy usually by half at least and so as part of this there's an eui score of below 50 that's the target it's getting below 50 for each building these are kind of you see where buildings are at i think these are 2018 data 2019. you'll notice we print some data we lift out we left out 2020 because of cobit it's it's not it doesn't match up it doesn't it kind of excuse results we

093intentionally did not put that in here we'll be curious to see what 2021 brings and then you can see here there's solar arrays being put at north side i already have at taylorsville and northside middle school and another project you'll hear recommended tonight to further uh reduce energy costs uh and and this the seven categories uh are safe welcoming community efficiency flexibility accessibility and innovation i think over the years we've you know accessibility we've made great strides on from even 10 years ago in your buildings safe you really address through your current security projects welcoming's always been in community i mean you have 18 school buildings some of them most of them unique and challenging and many now 50 to 60 years old so that makes it even more challenging to keep that architectural heritage

094up for your community flexibility and innovation the two that kind of brought to light i think something that we've done a lot at the high school level i think in indiana here in the past five six years you've seen a lot happening at elementary's in in war middle schools is the challenge of bringing kind of doing what you did in high schools and bringing that down to the next level of students as they go through their their four year or 12 years or 13 years of education so we'll talk a little bit more about that so assessment this year was started right as the government hit so we had a lot of zoom calls with all the principals walked all the buildings kind of during the summer time cleanest year buildings i've ever been without

095students there we met with like dr hack and mr others and learned about special programs incorporate some of these new metrics and then compile the overall report um you should have got the full 225 page report this is a summary i don't expect you guys to read all this but just the highlights of how to read it and how to go through it there's a grading scale of one to four one being the best it's like if we build a new building this is what we would do this would be our goal to you know it should be a one with all the metrics of what we're trying to do today in education and then efficiencies and security and all of that um if it's a two it's probably means it's just down a grade

096it's you know it could be you know if it's flooring material it's kind of worn it's you know maybe when it gets to three where i need to replace it but it's just on the radar for that if it's uh you know it could be you know office space we know we we just short a couple office spaces and we really need more if it's if it's something on the educational adequacy side um three gets moderate as we really start should be looking at something to put on the radar to replace at some point and then if it's a four it should be a high priority to to address and then changes from 2016 if you see a green box around something when we get to the big rubric that means it went up in

097score generally that means there was work involved to get it there some improvement there's some dollars spent to do that if you see a red box around it and shaded that means it went down that that could be from aging could be from introducing a new program just like your elementary schools you introduce a stem program as part of your special well known your building's had a room for that and so you're teaching off a card you're teaching in a regular classroom so you see some deficiencies in that just because of that new program introduced and another one is just because security you introduced school resource officers you introduced mental health professionals at buildings well none of them have office space and many of our buildings were already challenged with office space and that just

098made it a little bit worse and so we have some people in closets or storage rooms places that typically don't want to see people and staff so this is just a metric of the seven principles i won't go into a lot of this there's a summary page on this in a couple slides but i mean generally very good you see some more yellow on the innovative and flexibility sides as well as a little bit on efficiencies that's for your 1-4 and just show you what that is that's northside middle school and so this is your energy ui from the last 10 years and so each building has a score and it could go up or down a little bit each year because of how bad the winter was or how hot it was during the

099summer so you'll see that flux and see what how that happens you know north side is your worst performing school by far that's high on the list for mechanical replacement but it's it's a big building so it's going to take a lot to replace it um more dollars than we have coming this way and some other ones you'll see a couple of the blue boxes that's kind of what happens at a building we put in a new more efficient system and just as we did at the two bottom one smith in taylorsville received vertical units that we play classroom unit ventilators so not only did you get a system that was a lot quieter and you got a system that controlled humidity better as well as kept better temperature and more efficient and both of

100these actually bring in direct outside air independent of other rooms in the building so we've been coping it's a great situation so just give you an idea of you know how that impacts that this is before led lighting so led lighting will bring a whole new metric to this once that plays into it so just a few observations um you know i think the biggest thing i kind of mentioned was innovation flexibility and just really starting to if you want to approach that at other buildings um and then just really preserving the heritage that you have here and so these are kind of the overall rubrics for each building combined so you can see the top row is all the school buildings across the top and down the side is the different categories this is

101code compliance safety environmental summary for each building so if you see like a lot of like uh the fourth row down you see a lot of green shaded across that means you approved a lot across that one category and that's that's the security category so do all those supremacy you did you can kind of see what what difference that made we actually created a new security category we had two we split it into three this year just because of the enhancements that were made and so we could track that a little bit better and separate it outside from inside so you'll see some you may see a couple that go down only because part of what was the good in that category got moved to another category um let's see like if you see a

102one that goes down like transportation you see a lot of positive green shading on that's because you know you did at work at the entire building and so you got the improvements there so nothing really you know jumped out here nothing got a lot worse we got quite a few things that get a lot better the next category is physical conditions maintenance and efficiencies um you know i think the one of the worst ones you'll see is is the first one is paving and that's that's always the last thing people want to do is spend money on paving and i can't blame you when there's other things that are probably higher priority so if some of those things worsen then you know at some point you have to address and you've done some of that

103um but it's just you know this is just one of those things um playgrounds you see that is all improved for elementary and that shading there so again you kind of see a lot of a lot of up a lot of down um you know nothing tremendous you know i think the one the red on here is the roof ecliptic creek it's really gotten to a point where it's it's pretty bad you'll see that on our improvement list at the end and then educational adequacy this is one we over the past four years we really have not done a lot on this to address anything in this list so you see mostly some red going down a lot of that is you know the introduction of stem it's it's office space it's things like that

104that um just little things that got worse as it went along um but again you know most years we've spent some dollars here and you see a lot more green on this just this past four years there was kind of a different emphasis and so for each building there's a several slides like this in here this is just parkside for example till the year it was built in 1962 so you got a building that's over 60 years old now approaching 60. editions that were made kind of a site plan and then for each of the categories and each one there's a verbal description and a score that goes through that so i won't go through all these but just to give you a feel for how to read the document if you choose to do

105so and go through it um but you know you see like fire detection in this building it's not sprinkled it only has you know smoke detectors in the hallway which if we build a new building we couldn't do either of those we'd had to fully sprinkle the building and smoke detection would be a lot more than that so that's why that's a three and there's other things mechanical acoustic this is school has these um horizontal unit ventilators and so they are noisy they're challenging for teachers to talk over and that's one of the items on the list as well is to replace those with a vertical unit that's a lot more efficient and quieter and then this building has a lot of pavement issues that's and challenges as well with parent pickup drop-off in buses

106being in front and so we've looked at some things for that um most the others pretty well mechanical again as a is the worst there's a boilers and chillers then you replace this building because of age as well as the unit layers and then uh windows is another one that um are fairly old and some replacements but there's a lot of windows in this building so a lot more to go to to get to that so and just go through classrooms lab space things like that so just kind of skip through this but this an idea how to read that um at the end there's a summary of recommended improvements there's a list of needs for each building obviously we never can do all the needs it's just most of these roll over we do

107the most important ones and try to you know this document helps decide what those what those are helps you as a as a board and as a district to decide what's most important and then just to kind of summarize of all of it the kind of recommendations for these coming projects roofing replacements obviously keep keep going with that three of the next high priority roofs have been identified solar rays i think probably starting to see the benefits of that and to do that at more buildings and then hvac replacements there's some dollars available to really take advantage of that so you kind of can get the efficiency and then the approved air quality that do both at the same time and then park side is one of our focuses of replacing the hvac and then

108the windows and dealing with some of the exterior that's not been dealt with yet and then the third point of that i think is is really good is really looking at the educational component of the building and how can we improve and and really use that as our our first elementary building to really target and do the educational improvements as you guys are now doing project-based learning across the district now it's just not at you know your first high school you started you know 12 years ago or 13 however long it's been um it's just you know it's how education is changing and how teachers are working together more and so and your students are collaborating and working in small groups and large groups and the ability for the building support that is is really

109important and really enhances education and then schmidt um we have that as well that's you'll see here recommending some hvac improvements we actually you'll see that we didn't think we were able to get that in there but we found a way to to add the hvc part into this that's probably your worst building as far as hvac so highest priority but it's it's a bigger building more challenges but we work through with retina staff to get there and then other future things south side north side those are two other buildings on your list south side we've done a lot of work there seeing but it's always been adding classrooms it's never been making it right for the how many kids are there and improving the educational environment and the north side um compare it to

110central kind of a big contrast and it's showing its age now and needs a good bit of work and there's a swimming pool that you know either needs to be replaced or or are taken out and then there's a couple gymnasium and pe spaces that need a lot of work as well so challenges of that building and then so roll into the next part proposed improvements for this year's chad reference hvsc wise temperature controls i think found a lot of success in making your buildings operate more efficiently by changing out those systems you've got a variety of systems columbus east columbus north got a majority of that replaced with the big projects and have since gotten little portions replaced but it's still not all the way there so this gets us much closer to being

111100 and so you control the building with one system instead of a patchwork of multiple ones and then doing the same thing at frederie richards mount healthy and 53 to gain more control of those buildings as well and then unit classroom hvc replacements at schmidt and parkside and then central plan improvements at north side of the boilers that's one thing that's high on the list of improvements um and then it's uh schmidt to do the classroom vented layers there's some one thing to do is that's a two pipe system now you take it to a four pipe system and that means when you have four pipes you can heat and cool at the same time if you only have two pipes you can only heat or cool and so it's always on a in fall

112or spring difficult to control if you don't have that four pipe so it'll be converting that building to that there's some central pad upgrades that building has all the duct work on the roof that's a fresh air system so it'll be getting rid of that and making it all work with one system instead of having two systems that fight each other so re-ripping the building after that so other work there'll be a little bit of work to support those improvements because it's a different system and it'll take some case work and some vents through the roof and things like that so all that's tied together for schmidt but we'll get the hv system replaced and then at parkside it's kind of a whole host of things to to make improvements there you know we've got

113the hvac replacement and again it's a two pipe system be taking it to a four pipe system as well um and then just general improvements um architectural work to support those hvrc improvements some a lot of paving and sidewalk repairs looking at trying to get buses in the back of the building what i think we can do improve the drop-off pickup for parents and get some more separation between those two elements just educational improvements to adapt those classrooms and kind of meet current educational needs and pedagogies and then new classroom instructional technology and furniture and furniture is you know as i did my assessment i think one thing i saw out there was there's a lot of principals trying to buy furniture that was collaborative furniture and nobody had enough money to buy all but

114they you know there's a couple classrooms here and there but that's high on every principles list eventually to get that and then um another one on doctors mr smith's list is the china large cafeteria and only we do that's really trying to take part of the stage out to do that and he's willing to do that to do that as well as the classroom window replacements so just an idea of how we might be able to create a in the back of a bus slot that's also a hard surface lot that can be the play area during the day and it's gated off and and then so you can safely get the buses back there and get them out of the front of the building and then potentially even connect the drive to the parent

115loop now that drops off and in the front picks up in the front so just to try to keep people off backing up off the street like it does now and then a lot of repairs to through the pavement and expanding that west slot as well and this is just um really just talking about you know focusing on the elementary environment like parkside using these principles so it'll be kind of our guiding principles as we do that and working with staff there and just some things that you know as we look at what is you know what are we doing different now what's you know why is the classroom different um and it's just how you do it it's a you know inquiry-based we call inquiry-based classroom it's no longer each teacher has their own

116classroom and you know they more they can work together more kids can work together uh more great things that can be achieved and so it's kind of exploring that with with the staff of you know student choice student-centered uh student director instead of teacher directed and so that's when you know students will their educational will be more value when they they're forced to make a decision they're not told what chair to set in or you know what to do every day when they have to make that choice then that that helps them so just some of the new trends we see out there and schools are doing and it's really making a difference so just kind of the for parkside schmidt those can be kind of lumped together a little bit because of the mechanical

117replacement supposed to you've got an approval process to go through with all the hearings chat talked about and after that's approved we kind of get going with schematic design design development construction documents hopefully bidding late next year or early in early spring and then construction probably about two years of parkside or one summer through the next summer to achieve that schmidt probably a little bit different and some of these may adjust one of the challenges we're having right now is lead time on material deliveries um just some things are maybe 40 weeks out once you order this kind of crazy world we live in hopefully things will settle down here this this fall and we'll start to see that shorten but it requires a lot more planning up front to just make sure that when

118you start construction you can actually do construction and then lastly our net lastly the roofing replacements um the information services center by north high school clifty creek the entire roof and smith the partial roof which is really the addition that was put on the south half there and then solar arrays at parkside after we get kind of the last step of that project is to put them on the lower roof there so they're not as visible and then the last part is the softball baseball stadium piece at east several years ago we did new softball baseball fields for north and they typically use the field at clifty creek park now east has always used a parks department field there it's one of the ones in the quad as their varsity field never really have their

119own field so this is an opportunity to do that baseball you've always had a field there it's just never been up to the level of what we were able to do for north so this is bringing them up to that level as well the stanza east on the what used to be the home side now the visitor's side are pretty far out of code compliance and are you know getting via a safety issue are not ada accessible so it's replacing those which we've had on the list for i think six seven years probably and then the visitor side restroom concession to get that to work with softball baseball and the visitor side to make improvements to it or even replace it at this point with this age and then just some general improvements with fencing

120pathways things like that that are turing at this site so you kind of see the this work so that's the current east girls varsity softball field again it's it's not your guy's possession what the proposal is is we've missed dr bozen has been talking to parks department they're willing to give up this little league field here and let that become a varsity softball field for you guys so there'll be you know dugouts and press box and very much similar to to what the north fields are there along with improvements to to the north field adjacent to it as well as the bleacher replacement so that's kind of the scope of the work at this site we have 2.9 million dollars maybe not quite enough to do everything but we'll be close we'll see and that's

121that final slide of each each project and where the dollars are coming from and then what the what the totals are so from um from bond projects uh 13.4 million from the vab 2.9 and then the kerastacking dollars are 6.9 million that have been designated so a total of 23.215 but again only 13.45 through 415 is what the district is will be asking for in bonds so kind of next steps is all those hearings that that chad talked about um i think with which your board's approval will be the first hearing will be the next board uh august 9th the second hearing on august 23rd nowadays we require two hearings with anything over that's an uncontrolled project um and then if it's approved then build a corporation formula and then i think the idea for

122chad is to sell bonds prior to the end this year i believe they get that right i couldn't hear you sorry to sell bonds prior before the end of the year is that you'll probably try to in november november okay so that was a lot thank you very much and um i don't so you all tell me what kind of questions you have for those of us who have been through this process i do have an appreciation for um we we have consistently been very thorough in what in my opinion in how we've monitored all of our facilities every four years and gotten the red green and yellow little circles um in great detail so we have a great history of staying on top of all that and also being proactive rather than waiting for

123everything to fall apart and then we have a disaster on our hands so um i do appreciate that and i appreciate how thorough that you were but i do also appreciate colleagues who've never seen all of this before and you might have some questions so please do ask um so that you're comfortable with where we're at i do have a question just given recent events in in florida and you know us all feeling like the importance of structural integrity of our buildings and assessment of such as is a value how do we how do we assess the structural integrity of our of our buildings we're talking about a lot about purpose and use and things like that but in terms of safety of the structure we do look at things i mean there's there's the

124the structural part somewhat harder but you know we listen to principles that they say well something's squeaking or you know you'll there's be some telltale signs if something's our and there have been some you know mount healthy is a good example of a building that had to be come in and had to do extra shoring on because there were some walls that really were failing that were pulling apart from the roof and so things a lot of things like that we can see sometimes things are above ceilings and we can so it's kind of a you know relying on some of the staff and the custodians are actually the best resource we have at the buildings we love to talk to but we look at the exterior too we'll look at brick and things like

125that we can see visually walk around the outside of the building so any indications like that we see i mean there's you know currently there's an issue at mount healthy toward the back there's one at clifty creek again toward the back someplace nobody ever sees but you know something has been monitored and investigators looked at things and you know some of it's morally mostly cosmetic but you still want to keep an eye on stuff like that thank you thank you for that mr stenner yeah the hvac seems to be a big part of the project needs uh schmidt and parkside i think you referenced can you describe for me how the interaction between a boiler a chiller and the classroom units that we've got now and i think you said that at some schools we've

126already traded out one flavor one kind of a classroom ventilator unit for another one yeah we had good experience with that and are we are we learning as we go um yeah we have an important question there what history has taught us that when you see the horizontal unit ventilators kind of the low ones along the window typically those are um they're getting hot and cold water to run them from another from the boiler chiller that you reference so there's piping that goes throughout the building that supplies those what those units are are notoriously bad at they're one they're they're noisy um they don't they don't last very long they have a fairly short life spikel they don't humidify well because the air there's not enough air travel in them to kind of wring out

127any moisture especially in like a summer day or something and then and then they're throwing all the air from one spot and returning it back to that spot so what some of the changes are some is just you know innovations and newer technology and the system we have there actually was put in columbus north high school which is a vertical unit that is it's you know if you'll see it it's probably about three foot four square and it goes kind of all the way to the ceiling what you don't see is there's duct work then that goes above the ceiling and it supplies its air usually in four diffusers to a classroom so it's dispersing the air more you know regularly around the room so it's not trying to blow it all from one location

128so therefore you get it's a lot quieter it's also because it's taller it's got some different coils in it that can has a you know dehumidification cycle and other things that can take the outside air and deal with it in a much better way before it gets to the occupants of the room are uh filters how are the filters in those systems and there are filters and there there's a door that you have to be changed every year we're thinking about kovid 19 and trapping microbes or mm-hmm and those are you can put different levels of filters in them there's um different um how much they filter out so um and then kind of the good things about those with cobot is that they're bringing in their own outside air and they're taking blowing the

129you know other air they take out the classroom outside they're not mixing it with other classrooms so in that respect it's a lot of the other systems you know in some of the buildings are where there's an air handler back here and it supplies air to you know 12 classrooms and then returns the air from those 12 classrooms back to it and then um you know re-gets it or cools it and sends it back and it rejects some outside but not all and i think some of the things they've done here is you can reject more air outside or all of it and then bring in more fresh air but then you have to heat and cool so that costs you more more more dollars but that's what a lot of people have done during

130coba with those type systems thank you all right other questions thank you for that all right well thank you very much for all that presentation and we'll be hearing tons more for five to six meetings immediately and i'm sure a whole lot more detail as we go forward so thank you very much thank you all right we're to the how with dr roberts thank you dr thank you mr funk for that presentation it's clear that jim has a good understanding of our facilities and just a reminder we have 21 buildings in our school corporation and looking at the elementary school for example i think our youngest one is 1982 or three something like that is a new building so we constantly have renovations and improvements and adjustments to make so we appreciate jim dr bozeman

131and others being on top of that trying to figure out how to make sure and balance out those needs so my request for approval tonight starts off with minutes of the regular school board meeting from june 14th that is our last meeting as well as approval for the supplemental contracts that you had in your packet we also have field trips and professional leaves that are that are included school fundraisers as well and these are all just typical items that are in your packet as we roll through and as are the claims and payroll so for letter e here we you had two sets of claims one dated july 19th today of a little over 3.2 million dollars and then a pre-run that covered the entire month of june that was almost 16 million dollars additionally

132you have payroll that runs from june 7th through july 11th that was the last payroll uh date actually paid then last week that total was about five million dollars you see the notes there for both the june 18th one as well as the july 2nd that ju made adjustments and why they were the numbers that they were and then the last two items so you have the reopening plan that i have recommended to you as well as an adjustment of school meal prices that came after some federal adjustments were made for adult meal prices specifically so that is only an adjustment to adult meal prices uh from the last meeting that we or the last time that you approved those those those dollars so those are the items that i have for you to consider

133for approval this evening you very much so do i have a motion for approval of items for a through g as they've been presented to us so move thank you mr brian is there a second second thank you dr bills are there questions that individuals have of these items that have been presented to us i i do have one follow-up question just you know obviously the question of the safety of our elementary kids at this point is really the item on the table and do you see anything even within the current plan of making it a recommendation that could accommodate or facilitate parents who are concerned and and would like to mask their kids and and maybe helping them feel more at ease with the environment that they could be in within the schools so

134i think if i understand your questions wilton it would be given the current recommendation of mass optional is is there something that could be added to the plan that would make those who are concerned about the 2 to 11 year old group feel more comfortable it's a tough question because you know by going with with optional through those ages it leaves that group too to choose the option of to mask or not i listed the option earlier of having and i know that's not the greatest situation but we've tried to make sure and have another option in terms of schooling with the virtual option available um the additional thing that that was referenced was in terms of potential spread in trying to stay on top of our circumstances and situations and as circumstances it might

135dictate and and staying in contact with those who we regularly communicate with making adjustments for changes to that um i had heard you know thrown around um in prior conversations so this evening we've had a lot is is something that would um establish a date you know time frame you know we we start this way and we we do that for x number of weeks and and and perhaps we we go to something else i think that we we do that anyway and without setting up a specific time frame to anything three weeks nine weeks or something like that by our weekly review and staying on top of the information again remaining agile i i'm not in my my position not prepared to change the recommendation to to requiring ages two to eleven and i

136think that that that would be the thing that would make those offering concerns the most comfortable and and i don't know of a different thing besides what i've added that that bridges that gap between what we're trying to do here and then completely going to two to 11 being required dr shed yes dr roberts um i think the thing that you know listening and reading through the a lot of emails of you know we have parents that are pro mask for our 2 to 12 year olds and we have parents that are against all masks we have parents that are pro vaccines we have parents against vaccines and i you know i i understand the concern you know out of um you know my kids um i have one that will not be getting the

137vaccine um just because it's a female and there's still you know some information out there that is a concern however you know it's one of those as a parent and that she is older um i respect that but it's also one of those that she is doing a lot of research i think what's what's hard is being a public school is that as parents you know at the last school board meeting we had several speak that these are their kids how dare we tell parents what we can and can't do with their kids you know and i get that um you know but i also understand in in you know having my kids in school and everything that there are kids that have challenging homes that their parents maybe are working two and three jobs

138they're not able to monitor their kids health you know and i'll throw it out there because i know you know people just i've heard it said that the school is kind of a daycare for working parents you know i understand that you know i worked a full-time job and my husband worked shift so it you know there were days that if i had a meeting up in indy i couldn't skip out my meeting i had a sick kid and my parents weren't able to bail me out so that was put me in a tough tough position i'm really torn at this because you know it is the parents right and i guess because the way the plan is written and i appreciate dr iorio's uh comments because you know i do know the influenza and

139the rsv um has in the past been a big you know we have more people die of the flu in years past and then we have the mass mandate and then you didn't hear anything about people dying of the flu we were all dying of covet so you know i don't know you know and i'm not a medical person whatsoever but it's also one of those that it is a parent's right but i also know that we provide a facility and staff and we have to protect our staff we have to protect you know one of our our high expectations is you know objectives is keeping a safe environment for our children you know all children so i just want to say to the parents that you know i do understand and i tell you

140if i had kids in you know i have grandkids i have two grandkids that's in elementary right now here in bcsc and i have four up in lafayette um they are wearing masks regardless so it's one of those i think it is the parents choice we we did offer that choice you know and i think you know to allow those parents to make up their minds what is right for their child until their child turns 18 and becomes an adult i think that's the right thing for us to do and so looking at the plan and having the mask being optional for elementary i feel it's the right thing to do but i just hope and encourage parents if your kid's sick or not feeling right please keep them home or send them to school

141with a mask you know there's a fine line and i think sometimes you know we do have to watch that fine line on you know we just tell you know people that you know there's a virtual which i agree i'm on some online classes right now and it is not working for me i'm on the struggle bus with that but so i can't imagine younger kids and stuff so um so i think you know i just wanted to kind of throw that out there that i believe it is the parents rights as far as what they do with their kids but they have to understand and and our community needs to understand that if it's right for them if it's right for their kids then i think you know and i hope our physicians as

142they have been kind of pushing you know as soon as vaccines become available you know get vaccinated if that's the right thing to do for you and your family thank you mister hoftwire are there other comments other questions okay i will call the questions all those in favor of items four a through g as they've been presented to us if you'd signify by saying aye aye [Music] those opposed all right dr roberts those have passed unanimously thank you dr dr pleek is next on our agenda good evening good evening good evening hello okay i request approval of the hr recommendations as presented in your board packet as well as a sheet was placed next to your seats with two additions we would like approval of as well thank you thank you very much do i

143have a motion for approval of the human resource recommendations that have been presented to us so moved thank you miss wilden is there a second second thank you mr grimes any questions for dr pleek yes i'd ask just generally as we're getting closer to the start of school how are we doing on recruiting empty positions full positions we are doing the best we can we approximately have about 12 open teaching positions to fill we are confident this will occur we've already hired how many we've hired 93. wow all right all of those in favor of the human resource recommendations as presented to us if you'd signify by saying i i those opposed all right you have them announce unanimously and we always try to end our meetings with the opportunity for board members to share

144their comments their reflections on our meeting today things that we've heard i'll turn to mr grimes um he seemed to be kind of a popular topic uh this evening so and he took off before i had a chance to say anything to him but just a couple things about tucker smith the north shot putter i don't know how many of you saw in the republic but when he was highlighted one week as the republic male athlete of the week um he was asked about his pre-meat routine and he i think semi-jokingly maybe said that it was uh his preparation was downing uh three cans of chef boyardee spaghetti and meatballs and then later on in another uh republic article after he broke the all-time state record of which he he's a very humble guy he

145is aiming for the national record next year he he was asked you know how he celebrated that evening after breaking the state record and he said he went home and downed about three cans of chef boy rd sauce but uh you could tell you i mean he's a workaholic and has a great sense of humor but uh on a serious note um i would like to offer a sincere thanks to all of you that were here this evening and i know many of you that are here also sent emails over the course of the last month or so your your input is is welcomed and valued and while i'm kind of still a rookie here on the board seven months in i very quickly have come to realize that seldom or probably never is is

146a key word here we will will we make decisions that will ever please everyone particularly on the larger more emotional issues and but i also know that um the more that we hear from stakeholders and community members the more informed decisions that we can make so sincere thank you for being here your emails your input all very welcome thank you thank you mr grimes ms wilden i agree with mr grimes in terms of the input is one thing that was pointed out to several of us on the board multiple times was our board member ethics okay this was referenced several times actually printed it out so i could read through what is my obligation as a board member like mr grimes i'm new i want to make sure i'm doing my job okay the first

147thing on here is thinking always in terms of children first children first and really the rest of it kind of irrelevant in in some regards okay um so so that is the lens by which i voted tonight i think that kids need to be in school i really do um however um i'm worried okay you can probably hear it in my voice if i see it in my expressions tonight i'm worried um the logic that that the administration has presented in terms of how we arrived at this decision is very important to me and i think the logic by which we will change it again because i think it will change again you know one direction or another is also important to me so i just uh just to to get to that answer quickly

148if we think back to march 1st 2020 i don't know if any of us would have said within a month we would have essentially shut down all manufacturing facilities within the county and within 20 days of that okay so it it changes just that just that quickly and so we need to be prepared for that and agility is important um because we don't want to wait and put put our kids at risk so thank you i know this was not a decision that you all came to lately thank you is stay health fire i think i've expressed my thoughts on this so thank you all right thank you mr stenner uh nothing to add to the comments that have already been made thank you dr bills nothing else to add to ms weldon and mr

149grimes comments all right thank you mr bryant i would like to thank all the parents and everyone that came up and spoke and yes you know we are concerned i know this wasn't an easy thing for us to do of coming up with some type of plan that's going to help and serve everyone and we know that but we have to do something the gentleman was talking about that we need our kids in school yes we do now uh we don't want to shut down our schools we don't want to have our kids sick so we're going to do the best we can and look at the things that uh put the force and go from there and the other thing if that young gentleman keeps chef boyardee they're going to stay and visit for

150a long time okay i will say too i thank you all very very much for taking your evening to be here for taking the time that you've taken to offer us comments in your emails to all of us they mean a great deal to us and i and i appreciate that you had the opportunity to experience this evening what all the issues that go into presenting a great school for all of your learners you've got to hear our financial reports we are very proactive we are a healthy financial school corporation that cannot be said for many in the state of indiana we are being very proactive about our facilities taking the best advantage of all that's being offered to us at the federal and state and local levels to be sure we are offering the

151very best facilities and you are all gracious enough to support our referendum that we are doing the very best that you have the very best teachers and staff for your children all the time and safety is an equal their health is very important to us as we have said at very many meetings we are one of the few school corporations that has a nurse in every building and that's important that we're always mindful of taking care of your children so thank you for what you share with us that we're doing our job well i'm very appreciative and very proud of this school corporation because we remain being very proactive and thoughtful and doing the very best for your children so thank you for that dr roberts i have nothing else to add dr shed thank

152you thank you all very much please be safe going home enjoy this beautiful week that we have ahead this meeting is adjourned