001Hi. Hi guys. Can you hear me? >> Yes, I can hear you fine. >> Okay. Using a new piece of technology today. So, >> just want to make sure. Do you need an agenda if it works? >> No. >> Always fun. Learn something new. So maybe just um >> I think everybody is here. >> So um we'll allow the board president to >> call the meeting to order. >> That's you. >> Yeah. I'd like to call this uh order school trustees of Brown County Schools Committee to order on 300 p.m. on October 15th, 2025. We have a flag. We're going to stand for the pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all. >> Can you guys on the call hear us?
002Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um >> well, I appreciate everybody being here for the the special session today. The only thing that is on the agenda is for the board to be able to discuss um the athletic facility improvement project. I thought it would be ad advantageous for us to invite the team at Tquette to join us at the front end of this meeting in case board members had direct questions for them. Um I think I've got scheduled from 3 to 4. We do not have to take the whole hour um on the virtual call if we don't need it, but we have it. So I just want to be able to open it up um to to that part first. We didn't get anything on paper or the PowerPoint. >> I emailed it. I
003wanted to I wanted to be able to see it. So >> yeah, >> Carol, you got questions? >> No, >> Carol's going to start. >> I'm sorry. What was that? >> Carol's going to start off with a few questions and we'll just go around the table. Would that be all right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um the first question is related to the um home stands and from what I could tell from the design it looked like you had a ramp type thing on the south end of the um uh the home stands. Is that correct? >> Yes. Okay. Um does that also have stairs there? [Music] Okay. Yes, it does have a ramp and uh we we can supply stairs, but currently it's not stairs. Um but we will get through that with manufacturing >>
004because that that is what we have currently in place at the north end the uh the stands. It's a ramp and there steps. So that accommodates a whole different Okay. Um, now the good thing is I noticed you had more um stalls in the the women's um bathroom than you did the men's bathroom. Does one of those stalls include a handicap stall? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. The last one on the end is the is the handicap accessible. >> Yeah. And as you heard the last time I talked about the proper placement of toilet paper and grab bars so that they really are functional um >> as high as it allows us. I we got you. >> Yeah. Well, I mean because I've had patients literally pull off the toilet because how those seats
005have to do that. You know you you're still young and you guys up on the other things you're a little bit older. You you can realize that you get bent over too far you can get in a medical situation. Okay. If I understand this correctly, I mean the field is going to be elevated and by the fact that the field is going to be elevated then the grant the current um ramps that we have going up to the front parking lot and everything are going to be more shallow >> to the uh west parking lot. You're saying correct? >> Yeah. >> Yes, that is correct. >> All right. That that's the three things I got for the moment. I pass on to whomever. >> Vicki. >> Um, on the concession stand, um, I know you
006said it didn't have a ability to cook in it. Um, and I'm guessing what I see are some sinks there and I assume a counter at the front. Um, is there a the ability to upgrade that at a later time if we wanted to do that? ability probably. Um, it's one of those things that we recommend doing it up front. Um, but it adds a significant amount of cost to go towards cooking indoor. You can always add a hood later. Um, but it's it's obviously good to plan for it up front. >> I I looked at a hood for my house. I know how much they cost, so I I understand that. piggy I'm ask question on Amy's >> now if they're to use like personal air fryers or smaller units does it have to
007have hoods if that's brought in >> warming units >> air fryer specifically I have to check so there there's different there's different codes that trigger certain things right so if you have if you have just uh prepackaged goods and stuff like that. Um then you don't necessarily require a grease interceptor, for example. Uh I which is part of the sink that's taking all the oils and stuff and keeping that underground and not letting into your plumbing system. Uh, and then if you're cooking indoor, uh, an air fryer specifically, I don't know, but there are things that'll trigger a hood, and I would need to check that with our engineers and read the code a little more thoroughly for your area to know for certain. We we typically try to stay away from it just because
008it could trigger it or it could not. And we're trying to avoid that. >> Yeah. And are the I see two little boxes on the right side of the concession stand. Are those refrigerators? >> Checking what we have drawn in there. Um >> yeah, those are those are representing refrigerators or something along those lines. Um >> okay. >> I I don't know, Scott. I assume that all appliances and stuff are deferred in our in our budget at the moment by owner. Hear me a bit, Scott. >> All right. Yeah, we would have the hookups, but yeah, the the appliances would be provided by the owner. >> And is there a counter in the middle? You've got that one on top of it. I was just it it just looks like I I think the reason
009we're asking is it just like like a big blank space, which might be okay again if you wanted to fill it in later, but I just wanted to make sure it was an efficient space. Um because I've worked in a lot of we've all worked in a lot of concession stands before and the setup really does make a difference. So >> yeah. And and to that point, we can we can plan on space arrangements and if you guys have existing like refrigerators or stuff that you plan on using. Again, um we'll we'll get the dimension of all that stuff and give you guys a layout for it. We just don't want to promise anything that we're not putting in the project. So, that's why it looks pretty barren right now. >> Okay. That I think
010that's just it looks a little it may look incomplete I think as far as the detail, but if you we certainly do I know in the you know in the basketball gym we have a bunch of fridges and storage and all kinds of things. and some out. >> So, one of the things we'll do as we move forward with this is um we'll sit down with your concession stand whatever group is and kind of plan out their operations and see how that works. In some places it may be a stainless steel table across there where you're just passing food to the people up front. Um other folks want them, you know, providing the room and they're kind of grabbing side to side. So, it's really uh one of the I specific to see what [Music]
011and this sounds like a really picky thing, but I'm just thinking about it. On the bathroom doors, will they I don't know kind of what the current standard would be in public buildings, but it's always hard when you need a key and some random person who isn't there doesn't have a key. Um, are you using hats anymore or anything like that. >> We we would typically match whatever you guys use throughout the school uh for door hardware. Um typically that would be a key on on this building. Um that's our assumption. If if your guys typical system is keen, uh we can work through that with our door hardware experts and things like that. And I know I know David Lo knows a lot more about that, but my my question is a lot of
012times like somebody's down at the track and they need to go to the bathroom and you know how can we make that accessible to the people who need it but locked to the people who don't. So I don't know what that looks like but bathroom access of course is a can be a big deal. that it it might be something along the lines of if if you have a PE teacher or something like that that is down there with the kids during the day and you know they'll be down there then you create extra keys in order to enable them to lock and unlock. >> Um but I up to the school who gets keys who doesn't. >> Yeah. I guess I just thought we ought to think about that because I those are those
013those little things are the things that you end up being really irritated about later and you're like, "Well, we just did this. Why didn't we think about it?" So, >> oh yeah, that's a good point. >> Um, >> we can use our almost everybody. >> Um, I think that's all I have right now. So, Excuse me. >> I want to start first. >> Okay. So, I have a question more regarding the U field kind of area. Are there any permits that would hold this up or prevent it from happening? >> The field area. We we actually just met with DNR um right before this call. Again, we we really like talking to them right before we talk to you guys so that we can um they uh because we are entirely moving our field out
014of the floodway. We do not even need the permit through DNR. Uh they just told us we don't have a permit at all. We just need a a letter of what was it called? Uh letter of I wrote it down somewhere. It's a letter or something. It's easy to get and it basically just means that we can like demo your track and everything that's existing within the floodway right now. Uh, and basically we just have to, you know, resold it, bring it back to what it's going to what what it would be naturally. Um, and it's very easy to acquire. >> What about other county or statements? >> Overall, we're not we're not too worried about the rest of them. So maybe maybe FEMA or something along those lines. But uh any anything else you
015think we might hit a side? >> No, I don't think so. The rest would be typical with county officials. That seems you know nothing out of the ordinary and same thing through the state department environment. They said that you would coordinate the NPDS plan for the land service activities. >> Yeah, and that was a good question because I'm on the planning commission. So, um I don't know if you're going to need a permit from them or or what that is something we should look into. >> Yeah. And um we've talked to I think it's Phyis Carr. Uh I've started that conversation with Phyis. So, we're we're we're talking to everybody. Make sure everyone's aware of the project early on because that's the best way to avoid permitting hangups is make sure they know all about
016it before they get it. >> Don't worry, I'll bring it up with the next meeting. >> Sounds good. >> I've got like several warranty questions like when it comes to both the track and the field, are there certain things that aren't covered in that warranty? What's your warranty? What's your warranty included? >> Well, we can start with the track with I'll start with the base of the track and build. You can uh touch on the actual surface itself, but the post tension track itself has a 50-year warranty. And what that covers basically what it saying is you're not going to get um cracks that are going to get out of linearity. They're going to get separated out. things of that nature. Um, what I will tell you is on all of our post tracks that
017we've done as well as our tennis court, we've had zero medium. But ultimately, as long as you're staying on top of the surface, keeping the surface intact, following the guidelines of of the uh VSSs, I think that you'll have that warranty intact for 50 years. Surface that you know So the the surfacing carries a 10-year warranty. We as a manufacturer are the carry the warranty. So if there's an issue, you can call me or you can call Bill B. Either one of us. And the process is really simple. We come down and look at the problem. Uh take measurements and photos and then if in fact it's an issue of material or craftsmanship installing the product because there was an error done or whatever then we cover that. The things that we don't cover damage
018from gators, damage from equipment, damage from like um storm blows the soccer ball over and tears the surface, things like that. Those are typically not covered under the warranty. So for us as the manufacturer and covering the warranty regarding the purchasing that has everything to do with the manufacturing and acceptability of the product as well as making sure it's adhered to the concrete and making sure that that we warranty and take care of those. Now what about uh underneath the turf the field portion >> the the structure under the turf and then the surface. So, we are new to market with our stone to surface warranty. With that said, it states that we are going to warranty your sub your uh subgrade your surf your stone your drainage underneath your turf for the same period
019of time that we warranty your turf for itself. And I've got uh Blake Center. He is on the Google Meet and he's not able to hear anybody. So, I've got him on speaker phone in my uh by the by my computer and I don't know if he's hearing all this or not. >> Yeah, I question. >> Yes. >> Yeah. to build a responsibion. [Music] You know, if you're shooty issue something, that's not a warranty issue. based on something. >> So, I heard you mention earlier gator tearing up the track and we got to use a gator to clean the track and prep the turf. I mean, prep the turf and stuff. You can go across the track with the gator. Correct. You're saying like no. >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. So most most all
020the time the gators have curved tires on them, right? >> So just drive just ride straight across the track and straight back off the track and then groom the field and you're good to go. They and they also use gators to move water around and bring water to the field and things like that. So that's all pretty typical. The the thing that you want to avoid is adding churns to the wheels, right? they're just stationary and some youngsters just turning the wheel back and forth and that will potentially tear the surface. So, always make sure it's moving forward when when the wheels turn and you're good to be good to go. I mean, gators are on our tracks everywhere. Literally everywhere. So just just use caution. The things you want to avoid, you want to
021avoid bicycles. You want to avoid inline skates. You want to you want to avoid skateboards. You want to avoid avoid the the scooter things that the kids ride around on all the time. The electric bus. Those are the things that you don't want to have on the running truck. So you you're given a state warranty on the turf. Let's say we use the turf for 10 years, then we have a new turf put in on in place of it. We still get another 8year warranty on that. How's that work? So, you hear that? Yeah. Yeah. So you at some point when you have to replace the carbon turf warranty gets in with a new term. >> Can you repeat that? >> Your warranty. Yeah. So your warranty like all right so say you get to
022year 10 and you say okay we're going to replace you replace the and then you will get a new warranty with that new. >> But what about the structure? How does that happen with the BG? >> Yep. The under structure. If you go back in with a new surface and it's going to be and it's field turf surface or field turf uh turf as long as as long as you're working through tarquette to do that. We'll go in, we'll inspect the stuff grade, the drainage, all that stuff that pertains to that. And then if you you put the new field turf on top of this, we will continue to guarantee the service. Now in eight or 10 years from now, if you decide you wanted to switch turf companies, obviously at that point, you can't
023be responsible for what they're doing on top of our base, you're doing the new turf. And so at that point you would just the only thing that will remain be your track warranty track. I think my next question will be for Michael. Um so we're raising this up and as I told you last meeting I'm a farmer and most of my ground is in flood. We built leveies and things like that all over the place. We're distributing water in a different area now because we're raising that and then we got a 46 is the dam over here. Now, I'm not opposed to any of this, but where's we're putting a big rock out there the water got to go around and I guess my fear would be we have a flood and it washes out
024from underneath the turf or the existing ground that we built the turf on. it washes it out. Is that like would that become an insurance deal or are we backing water out in places where we shouldn't be backing water out? That's my concern. Um but you said so you said that it opened it actually opened it up better. Correct. >> Yes, that's correct. So right now the field acts as an obstruction. The field and the bleachers act as an obstruction in the waterway. So by rotating and moving field out of that, we're actually redefining and reopening up that flood wave which is what conveys you flood water flows for the most part. Flood plane fringe where we're actually moving the field too. It just acts as back storage and it does not account for the
025ability for that channel to convey. So we actually helped the water get through the site and through the call for 146 and any of the embankments that were built, we'll be stabilizing those with some reinforcement geoteexiles so that we won't have that issue as far as those. So on the drainage from the turf, we're going to the creek, correct? Yes. So, as long as turf won't drain, correct? >> As long as the water's not up to the level of the turf, it will drain. It will drain. It will drain until it is. >> Would it be recommended that as we're doing this to get that overgrown ditch way cleared out? So part of that >> ditch we're actually going to fill in and cover with a new culver because we'll be filling over kind of
026that the one end zone over top of that. So don't anticipate any issues with that culver existing swale. >> What about the the main creek because that's that's grown up quite a bit. That's that's where my no was. Actually, part of this conversation at DNR uh was about that creek. If we remove a tree from the floodway and we have to replace that tree two to one, um they don't believe we're going to have to remove any any planting, but uh they are not going to really want us to remove planting from that area. >> What about trimming it? >> I didn't say anything about weeds. I mean, I don't know. not have to ask, but trees are their main concern because those roots are going to hold the bank together. >> Yeah, exactly. The
027trees and the existing vegetation actually help find that stream bank to limit any chance of erosion from the stream. Now, if there's invasives there, and we've seen some schools actually entering programs with their local DNR uh about doing like repairing plantings through that corridor. Um, with us doing this work here, there would be a good opportunity for that. We're not going to put any of that on the plane. It's not required at this point. But if the school, you know, and we can help facilitate that with the wants to look at, you know, what type of programs they have or they can possibly give a grant to actually reveate that area. That could be something. I'm just I'm thinking about because it June whatever June 9th 8th end of the night we had a massive
028flood or massive rain that came down and because those that creek was jam-packed with all kinds of debris and leaves and it rerouted the water. So my concern is looking forward, do we need to be proactive as a school system on that stretch of the the that's on our like in our property and getting that cleared out. Not not cutting trees down, but getting it >> free of lob jams. >> Yes. If there's debris in there, yes, you have the ability to go in there and maintain that >> as long as you stay out of the water. Um, I was I was not not paying attention, but I was looking to see if there were any comments online. Um, and I don't find any. Um, and I don't know. I looked at Democrat page two.
029I didn't see any comments. So, um, did we get any emails from the public? >> I just wanted to know if there was there were any questions from those folks. No, I have not received anything. >> I guess I have a just a question about cost. Um the I know the estimate is 5.9, right? And um we have up to 6.1, right? And just to make sure that I mean you feel confident that you could do it for that price and that there is a little bit of cushion there and that would be enough. Um that's gonna that's gonna do the project. I guess I want to make sure we're we're completely within our budget. I think we are. >> Yeah. I mean I think right that to the 6.1 like that portion is really
030for us to take care of um um like working with the bond council and and those pieces. So not necessarily for Tquette. Tquette's budget was 5.9. Um and so >> that's it. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that we now does as far as landscaping when you're when you're done that's what I think about like you know it's the stuff at the end like oh well they did this and they didn't do that you know what kind of finishing touches uh will you do or what ones would we be responsible for? So we have a in in our price basically we have a an aotment there for general seating for landscape it's $50,000. So as we get into design um our final design those will be the things we start working through that
031with with our seating hyper seeding as well as what they're going to go where and we'll work with a local landscaper actually on a lot of that we'll bring them in and start working through the budget and basically it's going to be kind of a back and forth between the district and us to finalize that plan does not budget to make sure that we have now if we get into a situation where um you know let's say family or the district says hey you know we'd really like to add 25 trees over over the the budget budgeted amount then either one will try stand the project or it can just be a standalone thing on their own. We believe kind of what we've laid out the overall plan of this take care of planting along
032the hillside around the entire site to make sure we get a good good grass established back so that we don't have those wash outs in the future. Um especially >> well I guess I'm just imagining we're going to have this you know 4 foot area that's going to be dirt and mud for a while right so until the the grass gets seated so you know I just want to be really careful about that and then making sure of course if it is in the spring you know that it doesn't wash away the seeds or whatever. So, I'm sure you know how to do that, but um I'm just imagining we're like, "Hey, it's done." And I don't really want to, you know, I know there's not a lot you could do about it. You got
033to you got to do the work, but um you know, we're going to want to make sure that the grass grows and it looks really nice. So, >> Oh, yeah. That's And we can work with uh Jimmy too on that on what they're typically using in the areas matches up well. And then we'll also look at the time of the year, what the weather's looking like, and how needs to be established. And then that that kind of comes into play with that and the budget. And then, okay, is it sad or is it is it a feed with a hydro mulch on top of it? Um we prefer seeding and hypermuling just because um from a ongoing watering standpoint it takes better um and you're not spend as much resources watering it. Now if we
034do that in June that's hard to establish but do it in early in August we can get it down and then start getting those fall moisture and pops up and goes crazy. And we can play with the seed as well on that to make sure that we get quick establishment. Um, and then work to be there. But usually, uh, in areas that we have to get quick the grass established very quickly. Um, especially for like, you know, like this particular project going into the fall and wanting grass for it. Um, we'll go heavier on our ride lens just because the ride will pop up quicker and then that allows it to, you know, do an overseating over the winter and then get that additional growth. So, all parts of the equation that worked through the
035landscape designed to make sure you guys Okay, thank you. the maintenance package that included a bag of pellets. Correct. >> On the pool. >> Yeah. Typically, we'll leave you with a bag of rubber as well as a bag of sand. [Music] >> On the average, it's the average How many bags do you go through a year on that? >> Um, I can tell you my personal experience. Um, I had a facility that had a football field, a soccer field, a baseball field, and a softball field. Um, all of that used rubber stand. Uh so um I think the the key to this is and this is where I think our folks were fantastic with we will teach you how to groom it and how to stay on top of that grooming to where it's not
036so much you're filling in holes. Uh, a lot of times that's where people allow u they get behind and they get holes dug in it. Well, instead of trying to stay on top now there's nothing more material on there. I think he's just keeping it the right the bags of of rubber aren't too bad. Correct me if I'm wrong. A bag should last quite a bit of time, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, what Mike said is he will never go through that entire bag of addicts on the road. [Music] >> We're talking like 50 lb bag. >> Got it. >> I'm thinking of it. I know. roughly and I'm not going to hold you guys to this. The minute your first guys show up, I'll start doing stuff to when it becomes available right
037about how long. >> That is that's a loaded question. >> That's my job. So what so there's we're going to tackle this from a construction phasing um you know it kind of two parts one will be your um the concession stand and the other part will be the the actual field construction and whatnot. So what what our game plan would be is hopefully by April we can start moving moving dirt things of that nature. Once we get the tight to grade, we can form and pour a track in a matter of two to three weeks. Then it has to be cured. And then Bill's team needs another 30 days to put the surface on the track. >> You're muted. Sorry. >> All right. Probably about five weeks. about the track. And then um at that
038same time, we'd be working on or before the surface, we'd be working on the base of that uh of the turf to get it in place as well. In the lake, you're probably what? Four weeks. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Three to four weeks. >> Yeah. three to four weeks for the turf install. So ultimately what you're looking at is our game plan by April one to be out of there. Um, as far as field, have your field ready, your turfs ready or your track ready, and then if there's anything outlined around the concession stand, things like that, finish it up if it already last minute details, bleachers, dirt work It's going to take a little bit of time to move the dirt it up where it's not anywhere. So if we start
039in April, you'll be ready. I believe on this one we even included barrier one bill time on that track as well. >> What that is for for board members and for Emily uh barrier one is a product that allows us to start servicing that track in seven days as opposed to 28 days. Um and so it's not u Basically, it allows you that that shapes three weeks off that process, which when we're talking about your guys's uh season in August that tremendously. >> So, it's possible that we would have the the track and the field done, but we might not have bleachers and concessions done by the time football season starts. Is that it? No, we should have we should have ready to go first. >> We'll start >> quite honestly and Michael if if
040go well and we can start on the concession stand soon April and we can we can do it in a matter that um safe for your students that are still practicing there. Um, we'll get close to that as well. >> This is all weather permitted too, correct? >> Of course. Yeah. But I will tell you, um, community here in Missouri, we just, uh, we put over their, they had their last football game was September 19th and we poured their track on September 29th and they start puts down. Our crews, you will see, are incredibly must be that track will be poured in one day. >> Where do you source all the dirt? >> Where are you going to get all the dirt? Who's getting a pond this spring? >> Who wants one? >> Um, Michael,
041I I think you talked about the hillside a little bit and what we're doing there. Part of the project with rotating the track, we will be pushing one corner into the hillside. So, we'll be able to get some of the film material from there, but we will need some of it. I think, and I don't know, I haven't had a chance to talk to Aaron and Michael after the DNR meeting this morning, but we'll be able to create some storage in that flood floodway. based on our correspondence with them, we don't have to do a compensatory search. >> Okay. All right. Explain that. >> So, because we're not doing any fill within the floodway, they've calculated the floodway that in essence you can completely fill the flood plane fringe and not have any adverse impact.
042So, that's your local county does not require any on the site. We will be achieving some by by doing the things that we're doing. Uh but we don't have to completely offset. We do have some projects that are going to take place area well. But with that being said, if there is opportunity to grab her even closer. It's something that we're going to be looking looking to do. We're going to be with some area contractors. Um and quite honestly, I mean, if you all have leaves on it, we're more than happy to chase it down. So, as whatever houses are going to be built in April and they're digging the basement, then that's a great opportunity, right? >> Yeah. Assuming that it's good for what we're doing, we will definitely chase it down. For for
043example, a project that we were working on up in Ohio a couple years ago was for a community park and uh we needed a bunch of builder there uh to get their sight to slope and the city was doing a bunch of road construction. So all of that all that road they were stripping they were just bringing that dirt to sight and there was there was a giant pile of dirt sitting there for for I think longer than they wanted. But uh you know we uh we eventually were able to use what they were stripping and create the rooms. So that was really helpful. >> Yeah. The trick to it all is making sure that it's quality and we can compact properly so that you have a long product that's out of all. Um, as
044far as the the costs you're anticipating and that are in your proposal, um, I mean, do you anticipate you'll still be able to get those materials within your budget in next year in April 26. And you've got a crystal ball, I know, to know what's going to happen next. But >> which materials are you talking about? Just >> any of them. just as far as prices going up between now and April. >> Um that's that is why you know it's all you approve this Monday night. One of the first things we will do is start getting um we always lock in for some of these big items that we know um we want to get ahead of so that we can lock that pricing. >> Okay. >> Um we're debating delivery of until our goal
045is to beat those January pricing. >> Thank you. scoreboards. Um, even even with our polyurethane track with all those things to get to get locked up quickly so that everybody's prices are good. >> Great. Thank you. Do do you know >> do you know what uh the bleacher lead time is right now? I mean that's the thing is those are going to take months and months for them to manufacture. So that's the nice part is we lock them in price now and then they show up when we actually need them. again. So, but that that was a month and a half ago. Um, that is the other thing I will tell you all is your timing of this is good. The fact that a lot of these projects will be summer work, they won't be
046under contract until January. So um we are definitely getting ahead of the schedule of these to further help make sure that we get all of your dates hit. You want to get >> on that six months. >> Great. Thank you. No more questions from the board. >> Looks like that's it. Um I appreciate the the team at Tarat um for doing this um with little notice and jumping on board and making sure that that everybody was on the call that needs to be on the call. >> We appreciate the opportunity. >> Yep. If I continue to get questions, um, well, you know, I'm gonna send them to you. >> Good. We're here for it. >> All right. Thank you guys so much. >> Thank you all. Have a good one. >> Byebye. >> So, the
047rest of the meeting um is for the board to just discuss as much as you want to discuss. You obviously are not taking any action today on anything. Um, so you can take a whole time if you want to take the whole time. You don't have to take the whole time and it's just what you feel like you need. Well, one good thing that I'm glad to hear about is that they will train the staff here how to manage all that here. >> We have like one person. >> Um, you know, I was thinking about that when you talked about the importance of grooming and not letting things go. Um, I would imagine it would more than one person like we're going to want a team um you know as with anything one person can
048leave um and and then we don't have somebody right >> lose institutional knowledge >> I would imagine we would have a couple people in maintenance and then we would want Josh um athletic director right like there's some key people we probably want train I'm sure there's people that will want to know how to do it just out of curiosity as well so But definitely something for the artist to be intentional structure. >> And I will say that I talked to someone at Franklin College who maintains the field up there and they just got their first replacement turf this summer and that um they were very happy with it. Um and they have lots and lots of team. We were worried about the schedule. He said all the teams find a time to practice. That's not
049and have games. That's not been an issue. Um and their field and I don't I don't remember now what company they use. I know they didn't use the first company that we had um talked to in the very first presentation, but um because they said we don't we don't need an NFL field. You know, we're a small college. And u but I know theirs was The first one lasted 12 or 15 years. So I think 10 is probably a minimum and uh depending on the amount of wear and how well you take care of it, you know, so we keep using that number, but I mean let's keep our fingers crossed that we could actually keep it a couple more years than that. But I thought that that was really good real world experience. And
050then they were having this the new layer put, you know, the new turf laid down and he said it was really easy to do. They were just really happy with it overall. >> Sure, they take it. >> Yeah, I can ask that question. >> Um, but I doubt that they just leave it on our property for us to dispose of it properly or recycle other depend on like >> I take it so I wouldn't have to mow my yard. >> Yeah. I put down a whole football field and just start. >> So I guess I've been pretty hard on the whole situation to begin with. I'm going to eat a lot of crow. Me and him we've battled out a couple times on the whole thing. Right off the bat, a few pointers that I
051keep going through my head. We're not messing with our taxpayers. >> Yep. >> Which is huge. The next time we do want to do a big new project, we're probably going to have to pass. Correct. Depending on >> depends on always depends on the context, the amount um legislation that gets passed. Um, we are our total school tax rate is so low. The only legislation right now that is out there is concerning with your debt service rate. And if your debt service rate, I think reaches 40 cents, then you have to go through that petition remance. If it reaches 70 cents, that's the automatic. You have to put it on a referendum. we are at like 13 cents. So unless massive legislation gets passed to lower that tremendously or if we were to go out
052and say we wanted to do a $20 million fieldhouse, we could do that, but we will raise that that service tax rate and it would probably get to a point where we would have to do additional restaurants or a referendum. >> So that is a bonus as far as I'm concerned. I think back to I'm going to be I don't know how many football people here I got, but um I think back to uh when I was a freshman here at high school. I walked into a brand new gym, an auxiliary gym. Um that's when you were freshman, too. Um we weren't a super powerhouse in basketball. We were competitive. Um it was something that needed to happen for the school. As far as day, I don't know if does anybody in here you remember
053the old school the old gym? I mean on >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's pretty rough and I think about I keep going back you know I was >> anti-turf >> and I have been for a long time. They moved it up out of the flood plane that made it they're getting our existing field out of the flood plane which is a bonus to me too. plus for the track. I look at so I walked into a new gym most county through fit about it. Um I look what we still have and it's it's 30ome years old now. Uh I think about Eagle Park when the school corporation bought Eagle Park and they look what it does now you know. Um and this is a huge project to me. It's a very big project. It's
054a lot of money. And you know, I'm going to be a a Debbie Downer here on our current football program. And I'm not down, but we we struggle, you know, and I get a lot of push back from why are you going to spend that kind of money on um a football team? Can't hardly win a game. That that comes and goes. The reality of Brown County is we're never going to be a powerhouse in football. I play football, we're just Brown County sometimes competitive, sometime that's it's like in all sports. Um, but I do look at it too as as improves our school. I'd rather drive up down the road and see my money there than wherever it goes. I look at we got the kids that are going to be playing football. We
055have Mr. Felts. I think our soccer program just keeps growing correctly. I mean, it's jumping leaps and bounds. This is going to provide a good field for them. Uh my one of my main concerns is I'm sure it'll be taken care of. Is it being utilized? I want to I want to use a lot. Um >> uh you know so I mean you know in you know we have a very good track program you know >> um >> and cross country. >> So I look Yes. So I look at all the I've been weighing at night pros and cons of is this a good idea? Is this a bad idea? And I I think I think it is a good idea for the school to to proceed in this manner to make the school look
056better for right. Okay. So, we got a mediocre football team. They got a pretty nice football field to play on. Uh, my pros have started out way my cons. Like I said, I'll eat a lot of crows, but I think this is a good step for the school. Um, and every, you know, it's like every few years the school has to spend a lot of money on a project or something. That's the same football field we've been playing on since >> 75. >> That's the year I was born. 50 years ago. >> Yeah. And we've done almost nothing to it. Right. >> I mean, >> I don't recall what you done to it. >> Yeah. I was going to say I've probably been here in here the longest besides Vicki and this guy. >> Grand.
057So, I mean, >> yeah, >> it's probably one of the last things that has never really been touched. >> So, that's that's my spiel on it. And uh we did a question. building the football under that scope of budget because there's not existing feel like you were building from scratch that >> we were going to do that I think the fieldhouse would have taken precedence over >> well and it's long I mean we still don't have a good way to get to Right. The this is the doorway to Brown County and I I do think the public view is important and and the I come down to the community like a lot of things like I think our school we are the community and we allow people to use our facilities and our grounds all
058the time. Private groups, nonprofit groups, you know, we keep our tennis courts open, we keep our track open and we want people use our facilities, we keep our playgrounds open, right? And so I think it's really important that we look at it from that community perspective that first of all, we are the the doorway to the county coming in on 46, but also that everybody will have an opportunity to use it. I think they'll want to use it. Right now, as you can see, nobody wants to use it because it's just not in great shape as it used to be. >> Some people walk the track right now. I I will also say when you talked about skateboards and rollerblades and things like that, like I don't want that alarm anyone like >> skateboard. >>
059Yeah, we're not going to. Yeah, that's not going to happen. >> It says that already. I mean, I think that's already the um so so to me it comes down to when when we build something major like that, it isn't just for our K12 kids. It's it's for everybody. And so I think again I see it as investing in the community, not the football team. Um and I keep saying, you know, I'm the arts person. if I think we need to do a football field, you know, that's a lot that's a lot for me to say because, you know, I am I I watch the band. I don't watch the football team. Sorry, but I I'm not and that's not my thing. But I think the opportunities for all the other things that we'll be
060able to do there and the and the opportunity to practice, right? Like, you know, if we've got a rainy spring, you know, it can be very difficult to do track and other things. Um, and the other piece for me is just um that we've been losing. Everybody tells us we're losing kids because of athletics and then they're mad when we want to improve our athletic facility. Like, you know, you can't have it both ways. So, we are competing, you know, we have to admit that we are competing with other public schools as well as um charter schools and vouchers. And so, you know, this is, you know, one of those things. It is a 50-year-old facility or more. And it is, you know, you do have to maintain your buildings. My other big piece is
061that it's just It's dangerous. We can't, you know, continue to use. So, we have to do something. And if we're going to do the something, we should do it right. >> So, that's where I am. I think our school would be better for it. I think the boys would have more entrance maybe to come out. maybe play football. >> I've been on the board since 2007. Between 2007 and 2009, that's when we had the property tax fiasco in this county where we market. Nobody was getting the money because it had to be all redone. It was screwed up and everything. And this school had to take out bonds with the state to keep function. And as part of that plan, um, it was we could not fix all the things that we needed to fix
062in these different buildings in the whole corporation. We had to do it step by step by step. Nashville Elementary was the last one that got after the street. And I mean I remember staying over there with my kid school sweating out and and we slowly but surely bringing different facilities up to date. it's time to bring that facility up to date and and with you know the astro uh concept and stuff that yes there'll be still maintenance but it's not the kind of maintenance you have to do every four days every five days that um the staff has to do or you have to hire so and it's kind of like was saying if you don't build it they don't come so to build it and then give opportunity there and encourage so on. >>
063I do I I agree and I I think there's uh a narrative out there that this is going to fix any enrollment declining enrollment. It's not going to fix the enrollment challenges that we have. And I I think we spent an entire year campaigning that kind of kids are are worth it. We got kids here right now that are worth it to be able to to have the upgrades um like you said in in that arena. So that's what I keep coming back to. I know football is the hot topic. Um I think it always is everywhere, right? Um it is so much more than just football. Just to to highlight this, it's important to do this. My daughter graduated 2009 that summer. That's when the high school science lab got redone. And she I
064commented, "Why didn't they do that before?" But but that science lab was the same science lab that her daddy >> went and stuff. So, you know, it just kind of the same thing. Oh, yeah. older one's nice, but I remember what the old looked like, too. So, and that's the kind of things that as a corporation we've been trying to upgrade as we can to give our students the best opportunity. My gut hurts thinking about this just back and forth because like Doug indicated, I've been not anti not you know the discussion of this um I see all the opportunities that facility would give us allow us to get I'm still very much what is it that gives you no that's where I'm stuck when I get there I I don't know what it is
065that I need to get ment I'm all for everything but something about that field is not I can't get enough but I just can't tell you what it is that >> so you you think we should put I mean so the answer Should we do grass? >> I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. >> Right. >> I mean, the thing is is I think that's that seems >> right. >> And I I mean I just And granted, I'm coming at it from the perspective of a 10-year-old playing field, how hot it gets, how much he doesn't like having to tackle it, >> right? kid comes home and says, "I don't want to do this." >> Yeah. >> That gets back to coach management and facility management because um if you got a
066super hot day, it's way as as a physical therapist, somebody better pay attention and get kids off the field because that's you know an unsafe thing whether you have grass or turf. So that's a whole >> those 90 degree days this summer. miserable wherever you were. >> Do we know how the students feel? >> Yeah, I wish um Josh or Steve would be here to speak to that. I can't speak to it other than the ones that needs >> right in favor generally. Right. I just wondered about the kids again. I feel like I know what the staff feels. I assume, you know, the kids, they they're going to they're not going to lose a lot of time hopefully. >> And I can speak to my superintendent student advisory group like they were all, you
067know, on the call about it. Now, granted, that's 28 kids out of 400. Um, but I know people have asked, is is Josh in favor of this? Is Gavin in favor of this? administrators um they are all supportive of this. Again, the team that has been working with Tquette has been um Jimmy, Steve, Josh, Gavin, myself from day one. So, um I was in Seymour this weekend and I ran into somebody and and they said, "I work for Turquette." And I was like, "Oh." And um and he And I want to give kudos to one of our staff members. He says you should keep Jimmy Jackson. He said he is the best. And I've worked on a lot of projects in other places and he said it's really great. So I was like thank you.
068That's what we love to hear. >> Pass that on. And I I cannot remember his name. I don't think he's one of those guys but I think he's another one. But he he's definitely part of the project and has been working on. So I just thought that was really nice. It wasn't about the field itself but just how it is great. You know it is matter of who you're working with and I'm again one of the first questions I asked you is do you like them are they easy to work with because that's the other question for us is you know we've all encountered contract contractors who are very difficult to work with so >> it was my very I wish somebody else >> was here to be able to be evidence of that but
069that was my very first question like who is my direct person that I'm going like I don't want to know that I can call on a cell phone at the drop of a dime and they're answer um and without shadow of a doubt is been that entire team. I will say Scott um who is vice president of the organization and Aaron who does the amir part I mainly work through the both of them um and >> yeah I thought was particularly um good at communicating >> David what's I mean of the games that your girls play I would be careful just about because he's in a different role right now. >> I think we could ask that like you would probably have a conversation and ask that. I just it's just serving in a different
070way right now. Sorry. >> I think I know as much as I'm going to know, right? I think that's about it. Today was >> I wonder why we couldn't like put a lever on them somehow and say, you know, we got two softball diamonds and baseball diamonds. I'll put a lever on them for that post tension track. >> I will say it's the tracks a big deal in this specific project. >> I think that's great because that also means you know there are a lot of just like the cross country events we host you know there are a lot of track events that the big one they have here. I >> Yeah, I would have to wait until >> I remember the talent relays. Eagle Classic has probably three talent relays. >> I remember. Well,
071and again for me it is also the opportunity to practice because if if most other places now have turf then I feel like our kids may be at a disadvantage because suddenly they're you know I was an ice skater and so every week rig you go to is different and so just like going to every field you've got to go out and practice on that particular field because they're all different and if they're not practicing even on the same surface you know same thing with tennis courts like clay versus you know regular courts you you fall bounces differently. The way you run is different. So I I feel like they here they will have grass and turf so that they'll be able to practice on both and be ready for both. So if you know
072next week is on grass then you can head over to the grass and practice there. >> I mean I think all the sports teams do conditioning also they all had their time when they start >> yeah there is the schedule I'm sure >> as he said do your do your way games over here. >> Well, Monday I think will be on the board agenda. The recommendation true the project as presented. Um I I guess I also like with any project that we've done, think about the middle school project, a lot of design decisions had to be made. Those design decisions aren't made until the project is approved. So it's not like >> the colors and the size letters >> even the landscaping like uh the concession stand like those pieces um that will take the
073team together and um if it is approved it would be like the middle school project we would bring updates to the board project. I was glad you said he would talk to concession staff because again you need to have the input of people who are going to use whatever area it is because you know we've all been in a place that's poorly designed and like why why couldn't they do it you know the way you need it done. So I I just want to make sure everybody gets what at that stage we can design it because at the moment it's really just a big empty room that we need to but obviously still questions come up send them I will send them to the team. Um like we can continue to carry that process out
074and and just a question I didn't read the paper for today. Is there a story about this in there? I haven't read the guest. >> I usually read it on Tuesday and I didn't. So, I just that was my question is whether or not how much the public >> a lot, >> you know, I just searched a couple of group chats and I saw zero. So, >> well, anything else? >> I'm good. Can I get a motion from this meeting? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Thank you. Thank you for traveling.