001order. You ready, Sam? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> M show we've got uh three guests, six board members, and Mr. Yol present. We'll uh say the pledge of allegiance, moment of silence, and state. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Clinton Central School Corporation will provide an educational setting that promotes rigor relevance and relationships to develop the students full potential in a safe and stimulating environment. Shouldn't eat the look. >> I know. >> You ever try to close your eyes and see how much does that work? >> I'll change a word or two maybe next time. Just we'll see if you say it. You want to call
002Gina? >> Yeah, I can. >> Are there any revisions? There are no revisions. >> Move we adopt the agenda as presented. >> Second. >> Hey, I got you on speaker phone. >> Moved by Katie, seconded by Amy to adopt the agenda. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. 6. No public comment. So, leave. >> All right. Well, I I uh gave you guys a sheet. I just tried to type all these things up so I wouldn't forget anything I wanted to talk about today and just bring to your attention. So, first of all, appreciate you being here and uh we'll try to make it quick so Josh can get to the field. So, um just in regards to financial matters, just a couple different things um as we continue to look at
003um just ways to reduce cost but also just being efficient um in the in the uh legislative session. Um, one thing that the legislature uh directed the DOE uh to do is start looking at operational efficiency of school districts. And they have to actually put out a report this summer um of all districts across the state of Indiana and and in terms of their operational efficiency. And so um certainly uh it's always on mind and we want to be efficient with taxpayer dollars, but um you know with with that report going to be a public thing um I think it's something uh especially to be aware of. So, the first thing I'd bring you to is the document CCSC financial planning document that I gave you guys. Just kind of a running live doc. Um,
004sorry, it's on letter head. I think it's probably towards the bottom of that stack. Um, so one thing [clears throat] um that we just found again t trying to tighten up internal controls um which is always a good thing. I don't think anybody's perfect at it. Um but um starting um April's been um just asking folks to come look at um any kind of invoices we have. Um so you know whoever kind of it falls in their area that we're like, "Yep, that's that's good. We needed that or whatever." So we did catch one. It's on the the back page on the bottom. Um and so uh there was a software renewal that we've had um for and it was a doubled up actually. We had two different systems in place. uh one was not
005being used at all for several years. Um and so uh we have canceled that subscription. It was about $4,300 a year. Um and so [clears throat and cough] a little bit more efficiency there. So um in regards to SEA1, um and I would have you guys take a look at the um bar graph chart. Um [clears throat] these are these are just two sheets uh from the most recent policy analytics budget order. um and and projections that we kind of went through. Um so two different things in there. Um I guess the first one if you look at the dark blue light blue chart um the first thing if you look at 27 uh minus 8.7 that's our AV projection um you know we went up that number that that net assessed value 540ish million
006is our AV26 and that's projection um next year it went down an extra percent it was about seven and a half um again projection um but the um and and some of you may know this better than I would but the capitalization rate for farm ground went from 8% to 9%. So that drops AV more. Um and so um policy analytics is projecting our AV to drop 8.7% in 27. That AV obviously is what our tax rate goes to for operations debt service and referendum funds. Um and then also it affects your your debt capacity too. So um just just to be aware of that. The other piece um that I I just had a call last night with Steifle um looking at um and I mentioned this last month and and kind of actually
007rethinking it a little bit. Um so the [clears throat] legislature gave us the option to protect the debt service fund um in 26 um or let it all hit the ops. And so that's the second bar graph. Um [clears throat] so um with the new homestead credit, right, that the legislator was touting the 10% $300, right? Um so that that's an unfunded credit, right? It's not a deduction. It would be a credit. [snorts] Um [clears throat] and so once that credit comes off, um that's the projected loss, I guess, if you look at it that way. So in 2026, there's two different ways we can look at it. Um, either way, it's about 157,000. Um, if we don't protect the debt service, uh, or I'm sorry, if we don't protect the debt service, it gets
008split between ops and debt service, right? That you see that 76 and that 69. So, 76,000 69,000 there in 2026, right? Um, [snorts] if we do protect debt service, it all comes out of the operations, right? Which is [clears throat] 137,000 on the right hand side. Okay? Either way, 107 137,000. Um, so all along my thinking was we don't have this, we don't carry a really large cash balance in our debt service fund. Right now it's like 140,000 I think. Um, I don't have that number right in front of me right now, but um, we don't carry a huge cash balance. Um, so that's part of it. And, you know, if we continue to look at taking a geo bond here at the end of 2026, um, that requires us to make our debt payments
009early. So, our debt payments we make in January um to get that um debt capacity. We make them in December just like we did in 2024. We just make them early real quick. So, you you have that capacity. So, so my thought was, man, I don't think I want to protect it. I think I just want to let it or I Yeah, I want to let it all hit the ops. Um, but after I was talking to Luke last night, um, he was like, "Leva, I think you have enough room there to go ahead and protect it because you can try to recoup that money in 27 and 28. You can't recoup it in the ops, but you can recoup it in debt service." And so, he was going to do some projections. Again, you're
010getting at a doctor of PhD level of property tax analysis. Um, but he was going to do some stuff today actually for me. um and kind of run some different scenarios um what that might look like. Um take our debt service payments. Um obviously we got to take what our expected levy is from the county which that's I guess the the part you never know is is everybody going to pay their property taxes. >> Um and so but we can go back and say okay in a fiveyear fiveyear trend are we at a 80% 90% 100% you know as far as collection rate um on property taxes. So, um, so anyway, so that we're still looking at that. We do have to notify the DLGF, the Department of Local Government Finance by May 15th if
011we want to protect the debt service. Um, if if we don't notify them, don't say anything, they just let it hit. Um, both um and so um so anyway, so that's that's something we're still kind of looking at. So >> So this one here, Levi, I think um stupid question. This is year after year the differences. So >> differences in net assessed value. Yeah. So like last year we went in 25 the net assessed value was like 529ish million. This year it was 540ish million. So that was that 2.1% increase. >> So each year it's another percentage down. So if 2026 was your baseline and you look at 2031, right, >> you're talking 25% loss. >> Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. So you're you're you're really saying to get back And it and obviously you're there's
012a lot of like anytime they put these scenarios up that make a whole lot of assumptions, right? They're they're assum assuming the element of AQ, which is the max levy growth quotient. They're assuming that's going to be at 4%, right? They're making assumptions that home values and and things would continue to increase at, you know, certain percent. You know, what I mean, you're obviously trying to make a lot of assumptions. Nobody I assume if we went back six or seven years ago nobody saw you know home prices in 21 22 23 24 coming out of co right we nobody expected that right so so there is some unknown there but yeah so but yeah as as sea 1 fully goes into place obviously there's there's a significant um impact there on AV and again AV
013times our tax rate right is what gets our dollars so all right so we either find a way to increase AB or we have to increase our tax rate. >> Yeah. Oh yeah, 100%. So like right we we've always talked about keeping that tax rate neutral and so we've been at a dollar811 in this district. You guys have been there for four years now. Right. If you go back to the fifth year it was a dollar I think 16. If you go back years prior it just kind of jumps all over the kind of the place. Um and and districts really started making a push. I don't know. I mean I I felt like I've heard it for six, seven, eight years now. tax rate neutral tax, you know, we're hitting a rate, hitting a
014rate, hitting a rate. Um, so now we have to stop going a rate based budget. We got to go to a levy based budget. So whatever our rate got us this year, we're going to have to adjust tax rate to get us that same levy, right? So when when when home values and property values are increasing, you can keep tax rate neutral because you know your your AV is going up. You don't need to adjust your rate, right, to get that same amount of dollars, right? But when when your AV is starting to drop now, you have to go right up to get the same amount of money. So, does that make sense? >> Build more houses >> or build a lot more houses. Yes. Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I don't think anybody drove
015by one this morning. >> I drove by one. >> Did you going up? >> There's one on Tw. >> Okay. So, yeah. I mean, obviously, um, you know, obviously, you know, if you're a farmer, you you want farm ground. If you're a tax based entity, um, you know, a home sitting on an acre is worth more than an acre. You know what I mean? So, just depends. I kind of It depends on where's your where where's your viewpoint on it. So, um, all right. Uh, next thing, um, on there I had was our the recycle facility that's here on our property. Um last week I went to the Wildcat Solid Waste District um board meeting. Um on that board is um the mayor of Frankfurt, three the three county commissioners, um the county auditor, and
016then there are three other um citizens on that board that make it up. Um that is who um I guess that's where our the recycling from our our building here on our property goes to. Um they give us $12,000 a year to run that. Um we spend well over $30,000 a year running that. Um and so I spoke to them about, you know, it's it's pretty tough for me to as superintendent take dollars that are supposed to go to kids and we're supplementing their trash services. Um which they they fully understand. Um so um I you know I I think there are really two options there. Um well I guess there's three. Um you you can do nothing. um about it and just continue to supplement it. I wouldn't say that's not a wise use
017of taxpayer dollars and and certainly dollars are supposed to go towards educating children. Um the second option I presented to them was that they just take it over, you know, whatever um whatever that looks like or the third option is that we would probably have to cease at that facility on our campus. Um there's obviously a financial piece there. Um and but the you know, so there's a financial piece, right? They give us the money, but we pay all the um expenses of hauling everything off. We do all the manh hours in there. We pay for the propane um to do it. We have the property and liability casually or insurance on the building. We just had an insurance claim back in 2024. We put a new roof on it. Um so we incur all
018that expense. Um but then there's also the lost time piece because I have an employee that works out there about 25% of their time a week and that's lost work for the district, right? And so it's one of our maintenance guys and um it we do a great job doing it, but then that's that's work that we can't done get done in our district um for our staff. Um and so that is that is a piece that I I don't know how you put a number on, right? Because then we we either subcontract out some of that work or it just simply doesn't get done. Um and so um talk about you know just being efficient um maintaining our our property, maintaining our spaces, our buildings, all those things. Um and then the third piece
019is just that safety component of that. Um that building is open 24/7 365. It's not just a like Clinton County resident can put stuff in there or even a Clinton central resident can I mean you know you come from anywhere, right? Um but I never know who's in that building, what's in that building, you know, whatever. And so obviously it's right by our bus property. It's right by our, you know, elementary prayground. I mean, there there's a lot of safety concerns there, too. So, um, you know, I appreciated um the conversation with the the their governing board. Um, all three county commissioners were awesome to work with and just talk through um the challenges. Um, they just like us are being impacted by CA1 as well. So, just saying, "Hey, just give us a ton
020more money is not an option because they don't have a ton more money." Um, and so, um, you know, they asked for a little time to kind of brainstorm and think what they would maybe want to do, what that might look like for them if we said, "Hey, we're not going to have this facility on our campus anymore, for example." Um, what does that mean for them? Um, and certainly I want to be sensitive just like I shared with them, like I want to be sensitive to the fact that, you know, recycling is a good thing, you know, whatever, right? um and and it's a good service um to the community, but but that's not a service that you guys [snorts] have as a board funds to provide, right? You are supposed to provide a
021school. Um and so um so just kind of talking through that um and um thinking through all those pieces. So um you know, I'll follow up with them um probably here later in the month to just see what conversations they've had um and uh we'll we'll go from there. But certainly open to questions or comments on that if anybody has anything. Okay. Um the other thing uh under kind of financial matters is the Wildcat Creek Cooperative um lease uh which you guys have. Um so this is a um in Wildcat are the four county schools. um that's our CT cooperative. Um and so um this year we've been having um those programs and office space and things like that in the old I think it's known by a lot of things the old Casper building
022the old IvyTech building the the I think it says something else on it too downtown Frankfurt um kind of caddy corner from the courthouse. Um so that building had been previously leased by the city county um it was joint owned to IvyTech. Um, IvyTech left that building. Um, they they let us be in there basically as a a sub ley lei. I don't know what the term is there. Um, and but IvyTech still had the lease and so they were still paying everything. Um, so we've looked forward. We've applied for a ready grant um with SE um which is the Clinton County um economic advancement foundation. Um and then on that is city county council. Um there's the pit board which is made up of city county people. Um and so um a lot lot
023of players in there. We've applied for a ready grant of 1.2 million. Um we did get it um to do a lot of work to that building. Um and then um basically that in that grant is an in kind match and so the city county is willing to just donate the building as a match um to it. They Se has agreed to become the owner of the building um and then in turn would lease it to the districts for a dollar. Um, so we we didn't feel like we wanted to take ownership of the building long term, not knowing kind of the unknowns of SEA1 and what that might look like. Um, but CE agreed to that. So the the um the piece that we would have as the the four districts would we we
024would just be paying a proportional share of the operational cost of the building. Um and um and then we would also put about $5,000 is what we're kind of projecting. Basically, it would go no more than five. I guess I should say it that way into a pot to just do any kind of repairs or things like that throughout a year. So, um proportional share for Clinton Central is right around $20,000 for a year. Um obviously that number fluctuates because it's proportional based on student enrollment in those programs. Um but based off this year, um that's what about that number was. Um, so a great opportunity I think for Clinton Central being the smallest school in the co-op um to have a place to offer our kids a lot of these programs um classes. Um
025certainly uh if any of you would ever like to go see that, be more than happy to take you down there. It's it's pretty cool. Um some of the things they've got going on in there. Um so right now this uh this lease was put together by Lewis and Capus. Um Michelle Cooper is the attorney for all school districts in the county. she actually handed it off to a different partner in their firm that does more of this kind of work. Um but uh they put that together. Our all four schools will bring it to their boards um for approval. Frankfurt is the actual LEA, the local educational agency um for the um co-op. They're they're the um I guess if you would call it like the holder of the co-op or whatever kind of
026as far as dollars and and and all those pieces. Teachers contracts, they all run through Frankfurt. um and then their board would approve it kind of as a final step. So again, um we put in there a couple things. This is this is the draft. You can see some things highlighted in there. Obviously, those wouldn't be highlighted in a final draft, but um as noted, if the ready grant is not awarded for some reason, whatever the state pulls that funding, the lease becomes null and void. Um and then, um there's the couple things in there about the shared costs and I mean there's other stuff obviously in there. At the end of the day, SE is the owner of the building. Um, they are responsible outside of just the operational costs and that and that
027$5,000 pot um that we would all put in to do anything. Um, and and I think uh we had written it for five years. >> Yeah. So, >> so SE would be responsible. So, cost exceeding 20,000. >> Yeah. >> So, if the roof blows off, >> we're [snorts] in it for 20 all four districts. I mean, Clinton Central's in it for five [cough] and then SE is responsible outside of that. So, building's in really good shape. The 1.2 million basically it needs a whole new HBAC system. Um, I mean, it's working off and on. Um, I don't know. I've never worked in a commercial building yet that I felt like the HVAC ever worked perfectly, but uh, but it's to replace that. Also do some tuck pointing and there was some other kind of like
028minor repairs just on the building. So, >> it's great. That's been a long process. And I know that we've had >> you guys may remember because I I know Dr. Hannah always references the old Marsh building >> and and it was like round and round and round for years about the old Marsh building and then there was um some conversations I guess maybe maybe just a couple years ago maybe it was right before I got here um about the old core building which was the old Y building and you know and and so um you know I I think the other Dr. Hannah specifically um from Rossville was like I just I don't want to get my hopes up again. Like every time I think we've got something and and and [snorts] this honestly um
029was going to fall through until SE jumped on board because um the the ready grant is m you've got to have a matching piece financial piece and if we didn't have a a you know I guess it's like when you see a three-way trade in the NFL, right? You got to have somebody to be the carrier or whatever, right? So SE became that that third partner um for everybody um to to pull it off. So appreciate all those folks um you know um and what they do too as well. So questions on that. Okay. All right. That's all I got under financials. So jumping into some facility matters, just things going on uh potential cra paving project um improvements um for this summer. Those quotes are due on Friday. Um invited um five different uh
030firms. um had three show up for the pre kind of project meeting. Um typically you call it a pre- bid. Um the the budget for the project would not be at a bid threshold. So I called it a pre-quote meeting. Um so expect to get those numbers Friday. Um if they come in within that budget, uh again I don't want to say that in a public meeting what that budget would be in case there's any of the contractors watching. Um but um if it comes in kind of where we think it would um hopefully um I would have that as a revision. I wouldn't be able to have that on the agenda obviously um for Monday night. Um but that is to do the um road from um basically the main drive here on the
031north end um coming in off uh 100 north um to basically the edge of the concession stand building um also included. So that's to take it all the way down to the stone. Um and then to put an underpin drain in there. Um that if you've you know if you ever drive around here right after rain, that whole triangle is just soaking wet. Um which is kind of leading to the deterioration of that road, but also it's it's a major issue for the softball field as well. Um so we'd pick up an underpin drain um there on the west side of that road um that would flow. And then we've got actually um storm water drain running uh kind of a caddy corner right there um through the split and then it goes straight north
032and so we'd be able to pick that up. Um and then also there is an alternate in there um to pave the cutoff that goes um back towards the west and so to bring that all the way back over here to the new islands for the parking lot expansion. So um again those numbers are due Friday I think by 2 o'clock I think is what I put in there. um in that invite to the contractors. Um and we'll kind of see where those numbers come in. Um obviously um when it's when it's quotes um we can kind of take a look at that and um you know I certainly suggested to the contractors that were there at the meeting um you know if they've got some suggestions or alternates things like that um you know
033things that maybe to consider uh happy to you know take a look at those. Um they're certainly the experts when it comes to that kind of work. So, we'll take a take a peek and um hopefully comes in budget and we can take a look at that uh on Monday's board meeting. Um boilers um preventive maintenance contract work um done. Um we got that signed and ready for um work as soon as those kits come in. Piney will be doing that for us. um and appreciate they have actually a local guy who is a a parent here in the district and so we're going to be able to do that work and um so that's preventative maintenance um on our uh two hot water boilers um in both buildings and then also the two domestic
034water boilers. So the the drinking water if you will um and then the boilers that actually do the heat part of it. So um good time to kind of get it done. We're not needing them. They can do the shut offs and you know whatever. So, um, project closeouts, we're we're kind of wrapping up that last few things on the new parking lot. They they got the second coat of grout put on all the light pole bases. Um, if you'll if you happen to drive out there and look, there were five more trees planted. Um, the county um there was some, I guess, difference of opinion. Um, we originally they wanted all trees in the islands. Um, I said all the trees are just going to bust the concrete and asphalt. Can we not do
035that? we just put small bushes. Um, and so we we uh we did um and they're like, "Yeah, but you you didn't do all the trees." And we're like, "Well, we went like three bushes to one tree." And they're like, "Yeah, you got to put them in there." So, um, the the contractor was great. They covered it. They did not charge us additional for the five additional trees. Um, so those are those are out there. Um, and they match the other trees along the uh the south end of the parking lot. So, that'll be wrapping up um and uh be done. And I I I think some kids have kind of caught on to, hey, I can park a little closer. So they they park on that side now instead of maybe in in the
036back side of the old lot or whatever. So [snorts] originally there for a while it was just me and I thought I had a whole parking lot to myself Monday through Friday. But um I think some kids have figured that out. So [snorts] anyways, um other project closed out is HVAC um the rooftop units which I feel like is a project that started 500 years ago and it went for 500 years. Um but it is it is it is done. The work is done. Um they are just you know doing some wrap-ups. We kind of keep calling them back to take a look look at different things. Um appreciate Henshaw jumping in there and helping out a local contractor on a couple roof things, roof curbs and some penetrations they had to do for electrical
037um where we were experiencing some leaks. Um and so I appreciate them uh jumping in there on that. Hearn also jumped in. current construction out of Cooko jumped in um because one of the units in the um gym instead of being turned this way, it was turned 90 degrees. So, they had to come in and put some additional structure steel um in the gym. So, I appreciate Benjamin kind of jumping in and helping out. Um it was it was something when you do it when you do a bid job, you know, um most responsive responsible bidder wins that project. Um they they kind of missed some pieces in there. So, it wasn't an expense to the district, uh, but it did slow slow the project down. So, that was a little frustrating, but, uh, that
038is wrapping up. So, um, do appreciate just as a note, Henshaw, we we, uh, last week or I'm sorry, two weeks ago, um, when one of the storms came through, we we had several spots of roof leaks throughout the district. And so, um, those henshaws been, um, contacted and they're going to come out and take a look at all those areas and try to try to figure out what's going on. Obviously, when you have commercial roofs um that are flat um you I feel like you just experience it. But then you obviously got a lot of penetrations, electrical stuff, HVAC stuff. So, they'll be taking a look at all those things. So, um softball batting cage will be going in starting next week. Um uh tree service uh took down the two trees that were
039in the way um yesterday actually. Uh it's pretty fun to watch them. They just made quick work of that. So, if you if you go out there, you'll notice there are two two stumps and no trees. Um, and so um we'll be getting that um project uh started uh next week and look forward to getting that uh going uh for our student athletes. Um [clears throat] the state fire marshall inspection, we had that um the Monday of spring break. Um and I think you guys I think I sent that to you guys. Um just that list and appreciate everybody working through that. It is a team effort on everybody's part. I mean, teachers, principles, um, you know, all of our our directors of our different programs. Um, and and our our fire marshall was, uh,
040you know, kind. He, you know, overall he's like, "Everything's pretty good." And I was like, "Felt like I had a million things on my list, but you say pretty good." But so, um, but I started taking quite a bit of notes. I think I was five pages of notes in. And um I think because I was taking five pages of notes um in my book, he he didn't put everything on the report, which I was like, "Okay, great." Uh but just a lot of thing and a lot of them are repeats, you know what I mean? Just kind of the same issue over and over. And um and so we're taking a taking a look like, you know, for example, uh any door that's got an electrical panel behind it is supposed to be identified
041as there's an electrical panel behind that door, right? Well, that's like 50 doors or something. You know what I mean? So, it's just it's the same repeat issue over and over. Or an extension cord. I was guilty in my office. There was an extension cord that went to the table because there's plugins in that conference room table. You're not allowed to have any extension cords ever. So, I was like, "Okay." He's like, "Torary?" And if it's laying there, that means you use it all the time, not temporary. And I was like, "Okay." Yep. We, you know, so Sam's been going around doing a lot of things. And there are some legitimate things that we um caught. You know, there's uh a lot of uh if you'll notice behind the elementary school, a lot of old
042furniture that's broken. There was just shelves piled in places. And so we're we've already filled one dumpster of just broken stuff. Um and so um we're we're still working through that. But I mean, everybody, custodians, teachers, I mean just, you know, um Kurt, Greg, Sam, Becky, everybody's been doing a great job. Um April even had to take a thing down off her shelf. So, uh, you know, so I mean, you know, so anyways, but, um, so no, but it's it's been it's it's been a lot. Um, but we're working through that. Um, I nobody here, uh, that that predates me had ever remembered a state fire marshall inspection. Um, and so I don't know how often you get those. You're supposed he said you're supposed to get them every three years. Um, but, uh, nobody
043here remembered one. So, um, so I guess it could have been a lot more items on that list, but, um, we're working through those. So, >> and when is he following up? >> Uh, he has to follow up within 30 days, um, of the of the inspection and it was, I think, the 23rd if I remember correctly. So, it could be, I suppose, any day now. Um, so kind of just keep waiting to hear from him. Um, we've got a few things I I can contact him and have him do them early. Um, but we're still working on a couple things on there. And then there's a couple things we've got questions on. Um, and he was going to he was going to talk with his supervisor with the state office. You know, he had
044a couple questions on some specific items, too. And so, um, but again, I appreciate I mean, he he wasn't, you know, wouldn't have just come in here and just shutting the place, you know, you didn't you got an extension cord, you know, or something like that. He was he was he was good to work with. So, appreciate that. Um, and then the last thing on the facility matters, um, is pool condenser. Um, so that is a large uh piece of HVAC equipment um that sits on the west side of the uh pool outside. Um there are two compressors in that. Um and so that work has also been uh quoted out and QPH is going to be getting that done for us um as soon as they get that material in. I think it's been
045scheduled uh if I remember correctly. I've seen a couple emails between um Kurt and their scheduling team. Uh but they'll be getting that work done. Um one thing just from a safety aspect, we are going to add a fence. Um it's it's kind of behind that block wall, that brick wall. You don't really see it. Um but you can just go in there. Um and so these are getting in there or whatever. So um although it would be a great hideand go seek spot. So I mean like nobody would probably guess that. So anyways, [snorts] but that work will be getting done obviously as temps start to rise. um you know that that pool uh obviously just with the humidity and and temperature and things like that um it will it will start to get
046warm quickly. Um it's funny it gets cold quickly and it gets warm quickly. Um and so um we'll be getting that work done uh hopefully as soon as possible. So I think that's all I've got facilities wise. I don't know if any guys got any questions on any of those items or not, but Okay. And then operationally, um, just been doing a lot, digging into some stuff. Um, really looking at, um, some of the programs we use and, um, I've got a spreadsheet that you guys have with, uh, some different programs on there. Um, really appreciate all of our team jumping in on all these things. All of our building administrators, um, central office folks, our cafeteria folks, everybody just kind of digging into these things. So um the first thing I would look at
047is our student information system. Um so uh you will have a recommendation from me on Monday to switch that. Um you can see the expenses. Um we we currently work with P school um as our student information system. And so varying users use that within the district for different things. Teachers, that's where they do attendance and gradebooks. If you're um if you're the building office staff, you use it constantly all day every day. You're in it deep. Um, that's where all of our state reporting comes through. Um, it's where we run, um, point of sales in the cafeteria. Um, it's what we connect with, um, many different technology programs that communicate with that, um, nightly. Um, they have nightly sinks. And so there's there's just a ton of pieces that that touches. Um, and again,
048at different levels. I I don't work with it very rarely. Um, if you're if you're uh the building principles all day, every day, non-stop. Um, if you're if you're our technology director, you love and hate it depending on what it what it does and doesn't do and sync and all these things, right? So, um, if you're Joanie, um, you swim in it sometimes. So, you just you just never know. So, um, but so those are expenses. Um, so, um, Power School is big. Um, you know, Harmony is a local Indiana company. Um, all Indiana employees. Um, and and much more reasonable in cost. Um, so looking at next year projecting savings of of right around $42,000. Um, and then the next year that goes up to about $60,000. Um, we can pull that state reporting
049inhouse. Um, right now we have a contract for that uh with a with a vendor. Um and then we also have to have the administration services for our student information system contracted out um because we don't have the staff. And so um those are things that would be able to go away. We'd be able to pick those things up in house. Um we also talked with FiveStar who is our um technology um contractor you know on engineering and our virtual CTO services. Um just when did we have that meeting Sam? Was that Monday? >> For what? >> Yeah. And they they were like absolutely smart choice for your district. I mean, from a from a size-wise um district, you know, um and a staff wa um perspective, but also just financially. And so, um so
050you you guys will have that recommendation uh on Monday um to make that switch. Um we've already notified P school pending board approval because there there's obviously a pretty significant um back a lot of backend work that goes into that. Um all of our data um our student data that's archived is in there. And so we've got to migrate all that stuff. Um, and then we've also got to be ready to we've got to it's tough because you got to finish state reporting, which you can't do until July 1, and then you have to be ready to start school August 1. And so so it's a it's a little I'll have a little flashbacks to the military where it's a it'll be a hurry up and then wait and and so um but but uh
051feel good about that. Appreciate uh the folks from Harmony [snorts] coming in. They've met with us um a few different times now and showing different pieces of it. Um Mr. Beckman will be really pivotal in this. He as a teacher just this school year he was under harmony and so he'll be a great resource for our teachers just on the you know the attendance piece, the grades. Um and then um you know from the office standpoint um there that'll be kind of all hands- on deck. I I had worked in it I had worked in Harmony previously. I've worked in a few different student information systems over the years, but um luckily not a whole lot's changed since my my building level admin days and so I'll be able to help our administrators jump in
052there. So um I think the biggest well obviously the biggest piece is financially. Um but the the second biggest piece is they're all folks that live right here in Indiana and you can call them and so um that's great. they are only in Indiana. And so from a state reporting piece too, their system only talks in Indiana. And so um whereas all the other SIS's that are much larger, multi-state, multinational, they've got to be able to talk to, you know, different different systems. So >> So where would the You said teachers use them a lot for attendance, grade books, and everything else. if that goes away. I I've been trying to dig in because you hear all these different phraseologies, harmony, power school, schooly, all these different things. So, I've been trying to look into
053this more. >> Yep. >> I guess the question is, >> for me anyway, >> cost savings is one thing, but if we're doing away with day-to-day operations of what our teachers are doing, >> is this going to adversely affect what's happening in the classroom? Um, I keep reading constantly, harmony is very, very simple. Yeah, we're definitely going backwards in regards to what all we can do, but power school is more expensive, of course, because you have more bells and whistles. >> So, that's what I'm struggling with. I love the fact we're talking about saving dollars. We need to do that, but at what cost? That's my concern of, >> you know, and and just like you said, the the student data and everything that's already in one system of moving that over now somewhere else.
054Does Harmony collect everything that we're currently doing or are we going to go to Harmony and now need these four other things at added costs >> that we're already doing? >> Right. >> That That's where I'm getting really hung up because there's so much to this. >> Yeah. No. So there are four basically four major SIS players. You have Harmony, Powers School, Skyward, and Infinite Campus. Okay. They they all four do the same things. >> We were on Harmony years ago. >> Yeah. You guys know you guys in the last 10 years have been on Harmony, Skyward, and Power School. Yeah. >> Um and so um it it's it's >> I would I don't I wouldn't quote myself on this. Years ago, I was at another district. Skyward was always the most expensive. Power School
055was kind of next. Harmony was next. Infinite Campus is a relatively smaller player in the state of Indiana. Um at one time, like, and I don't know if this is still true, but they had the entire state of Kentucky. So, they're huge. They're just not big in Indiana, right? Um they all four do the exact same things. They just have different bells and whistles and different pieces to it. Right. >> That's exactly what So, from what we use it for, we don't need all the bells and whistles and and some of the things that we don't use. So Sam um had put together a spreadsheet of all the different aspects that we don't use >> in power. So yep, I can share that with you. Great. So um there are a lot of things that
056were like, "Yeah, it's nice, but we don't need it. It's nice, but we don't need it. It's nice, but we don't use it. It's nice, we already canceled it. It's nice, we already canceled it." Um >> as far as what the teachers use, again, I've taught under both different systems. You're putting your grades in there and you're taking attendance in there. That's all you're using as a teacher. in the like on in the office side, that's where you're building your master schedule. That's doing your discipline records. That's where you're um doing your state reporting for in school suspensions, out of school suspensions, things like that. You're um you're doing your nurse piece in there. You're doing your um oh, trying to think what other major you're doing your um just documentation in terms of situations
057that may be a concern that we something we may have to report to other state or government agencies, things like that. It's just a great log place. Um, but again, they all four do the exact same things. They just do them differently a little bit, right? So, I guess it's if you were going to put something in Excel or Google Sheets, it's the same thing. It's a spreadsheet. It's just maybe this one you go click here instead of you go click here. >> Be a learning curve. >> Oh, 100%. >> Been around 20. I remember using it when I taught 20 years ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I'm sure it's changed since we had it. >> So, you you would have remembered Kyle Harmony 2.0. 0 which is what I did as a teacher
058now like it wasn't web based you had to go log on your now it's Harmony 3.0 which is a web-based platform you do it from anywhere I remember when we got that as a teacher I was like I do grades on my couch awesome but but back then I had a gradebook you know and I put them in and then I went to school the next morning and I had to put them in the computer >> and and now you know just sit on your couch and do it whatever right >> it's changed even since we had it last at this school >> yeah well it would have been probably Harmony 2.0 I know even here >> um even because what was it 10 years ago I think we looked back because there was Skyward
059in between Harmony and Power School, right? Is that correct? >> Yeah. It wasn't web based. >> Yeah. So it would have been 2.0. So that's changed. Um >> there's a 3-day on-site training. >> Yeah. >> In that too. >> Yeah. So they'll they'll provide on-site training. Again, like I feel very com it's not changed since I was in it. So I feel very comfortable is providing our administrator training. Mr. Pekkin's like I can leave the teacher training. I mean I was doing it this year. I mean, you know, as far as um so they'll do a lot of that training, but then also like we've got people that are totally comfortable doing it as well. But then again, that nice piece is you pick up a phone call and call somebody. And so the lady
060that I used to always call, her name was Carol call. She's retired now, but I had Carol's phone number and I just called Carol. I'm like, "Hey, Carol, I need help with it." You know, and she talked me through it, right? Um you know, with with Power School, we've either we've got two options. we go through a a subcontractor outside vendor or we call and and most the names um with the power school people certainly I'm sure they're nice folks but I can't pronounce their names and so it it's a trouble there's there's sometimes a language barrier there piece trying to trying to figure some things out too a little bit so so it's not just a like it believe me it is not just a financial thing yes that is a huge piece but
061just operationally we are going to be a lot quicker more efficient better um just just this week our two different buildings. um we ran into an issue um with what's it's going to affect us on some state reporting things because like in powers school for example there's two different ways you can put in discipline records for students and so um the elementary schools is perfect the high schools has about 100 errors and we'll have to go clean all those up right and so um it's just we ran into it last year too so it's just it's a little I don't know bigger clunkier I think maybe now if you've got a bigger if Sam had seven other IT people with him. Maybe it's better, you know, and it's more effic I I for everything we've
062seen, I love Harmony personally as well. I don't see foresee any issues. >> Yeah. I mean the it was nice the program the the the lady that actually come talk to us is the programmer like it's not a salesperson and so like overselling us like oh it'll do this and this and you're like no it doesn't actually you know what I mean whatever and so um you know so anyways uh but yeah I mean you're you're right Char they're there they're and and we're going to dig into a couple of these other things because you'll hear this thing and this thing and and and a lot of that is we're trying to get consolidated because if I'm a parent right I've got all these different learning platforms. I've got all these different communication platforms. You're
063So part of it is like how can we keep this consolidated? So if I'm a parent, whether my kid is in a kindergarten class or a high school senior, >> am I going to the same places or I have to go to different things and different things and different things, right? And so part of that again kind of like putting together our master infrastructure plan, you know, trying to um you know, set goals and whatever. So it's consistent across the board. If you're a family here, your experience looks very similar. Obviously your teachers are different and you know you got grandparents night and you know maybe a varsity baseball game things you know you there's still differences right but as far as the way the district and and our teachers and our staff interact with
064you communicate with you where you go to find stuff it's going to be much more streamlined. That's the goal there. And so we'll get into that one a couple things here in just a second too. So um but yeah there there's absolutely a learning curve um you know um and I but I think you know for our for our teaching staff that I want them focused on teaching their learning curve is pretty minimal now for the building administrators for Mrs. Piery for Mr. Solomon um you know for for April um it it is going to be a bigger learning curve um because of all the different things we use on the back end that come out of that right because all of our data flows out of our SIS right and so there will be
065bigger learning curves for us right at the at the end of the day I want to make the teacher's job as easy as possible so they can focus on teaching kids right so they're not having to worry about 40 other things that they can't figure out okay >> what learning system our information system was Mr. lake on. Do you know >> he was on Skyward? Um, >> so he's got a learning curve anyway. >> He's got a Yeah. And Yeah. >> And so does Beckman because >> because on Harmony and he went to Power School. Yep. National Lake was on Skyward. >> So either way, 50% of our building level administrators have learning >> curve. Yeah. And anytime I mean honestly anytime I mean my my wife for example, I'll use her. I'll pick on
066her for a minute. So, um, she's not watching cuz she's teaching second period right now. So, um, like at their district, they're on one right now and they are switching. So, even a teacher that, you know what I mean? Like she she's not a new employee. She's an existing teacher there. She's going to learn a new one. There's going to be a learning curve, you know what I mean? So, um, you know, and and, um, she's like whatever. I don't really use it. I put grades in there and I take attendance. I click on Johnny if he's absent, like, you know what I mean? like whatever. But but I Yeah, I mean we we see that. So like my po point I guess would be turnover, you're going to change it. Whether you might be
067a teacher here, you might change it. You know what I mean? Things like that. Um you know, if if Mr. Solomon was going to retire this year, for example, we wouldn't be doing this because it's a it's a big technology lift. There's a lot of pieces to it, right? Um he's not 65 and he didn't hit the lottery yesterday to my knowledge because he said he'd buy me a boat if he ever does. So, and and I don't see a boat out parked out front. So, um so I don't I don't think he's going to retire, but u but yeah, I mean you you've got that learning curve for sure. >> Yeah, for sure. >> The biggest impact to the teachers will be this next piece of Yes. Learning management system 100%. >> Yep. >>
068Um let me let me stay on my list here. So, cafeteria POSOS point of sale system. I probably should have point of sale instead of POS on there, but but point of sale system. Um so, that's a piece too. We had Becky and McQuinn and Tina Crumman in here. Appreciate those ladies. Um, and taking a look at that. Um, they they again, we looked at Harmony um and so um we'll be we'll be making that change too, getting some good feedback from them. They talked to their reps with um oh shoot can't remember. >> It's not their deal. >> Anyways, their food service rep that they work with. Um, you might know, Amy, but >> no, like through the state, they have a state rep they talk to and you know, as far as their
069state because they do state reporting as well and so what does their reports look like and things like that. So, >> um, but the but we've also considered that piece into it because again, if you're we're trying to streamline to your point, Dre, and so we didn't want to have one point of sales system over here in the cafeteria and another SIS over here and like hope they talk well, right? You know, and like, well, I put money in my kids's account. Well, it doesn't show up in this system and you know, whatever. Right. So, um, so we're looking at that. The other I I guess the other piece would be, um, speaking of streamline and I hate to go back here, but, um, like right now we we have eund, which is where you
070can go in and put money in your kids's lunch accounts or if you, you know, if you broke a Chromebook or your kid's laptop and you needed to go pay that or whatever, um, Harmony has that piece built in and so that again streamlines that. It's one less player. um as far as now they they ran it through a bank through a financial institution, right? But but you do it right there from your your Harmony piece. So that's nice. Um communications platform. So let me I'm going to skip down. Sorry. I'm going to just actually I didn't have it on there. So nope, I'm going to go to online learning platforms. I'll stay on the spreadsheet. So right now we use two um in the district. We use Schoolagy and we use Google Classroom. Um
071the elementary school is 100% on Google Classroom. Um and it is free um within our G Suite. Um and then in the high school we're about 50% schooly, 50% Google classroom. And so um you can see the cost there. Mr. Lakes already talked to his staff about this and there last um Friday uh late start um said, "Hey, you know, elementary is there. 50% of you guys are there." Like it just makes sense for us as a school, for us as a if I'm a parent, if I'm a student, I've got one, I've got one teacher teaching me how to Schooly, I got another teacher teaching me how to Google Classroom, you know, whatever. Um, he said he didn't have a single teacher come talk to us about concerns about it. So, um, so obviously
072there there's a cost savings, not it's not, you know, millions of dollars or anything like that, but there is a cost savings and that that cost continues to go up that platform. Um, but we already are we do everything in Google obviously and so it just makes sense to use their platform. Again, from a training standpoint, we've got all our teachers use it right now. I mean, our elementary teachers do. Half of our middle school, high school teachers use it right now. Um, and so um we'll be going to that um fully. There's not a there's not a contract. There's nothing for you guys to approve. It's it's free. We are it's just part of our our Google suite um of of different resources in there. So, next is a communications platform that we use.
073So, I tried to list the different ones that we use. Uh, and I know there are more. Um, you've got more, you've got school messenger, you've got dojoos, you've got reminds. Um, I know there are others. Um, I know we have Event Link, we've got Sports U, we've got um what's that? >> Band's got something too. >> Band called. Okay. I didn't know that one. You have a lot. Right. And and so, um, we took a look at Parent Square. I I have never worked with Parent Square. I just know it's probably the most widely used out there. Um, all of our administrators, um, our technology team, everybody took a look at that. Um, my elementary administrators have been yelling at me for like two months. When are you going to get this thing? Like,
074let's go. Um, and so, but it literally takes the place of all those things. You can do the newsletters. I can send out my twohour delay, you know, thing. I And I can do it from an app. Right now, when I'm out driving roads in the winter, I have to pull over, turn my hotspot on my phone, get my laptop out, send the message out. Like, it's pretty wonky. Um, but they also have built-in newsletters. You can do the you can actually literally on the app, if I'm a coach, I can message my kid through the apps that they can message right back and it stays within the app. um and talk about obviously just you know um want to minimize um you know concerns, liabilities for our coaches and things like that. You know
075we always talk about don't share your personal phones just now we can just do that right through that app. Um and so [clears throat] I mean that that takes place of a lot of those things. Um the um there was some there was some specific pieces the building administrators liked. I don't know if Sam if you remember off the top of your head there was I mean I know the privacy the privacy piece >> phone number privatizes the phone number and does either a fourdigit code or a whole new numbers I don't know >> that's the biggest >> so you're not sharing your personal numbers out you know just last week we had a big issue with an email which um got everybody's contacts and and things like that. So again, it it helps us
076on the cyber security piece a little bit too. Um you know um but also um you know the classroom newsletters and the school newsletters and and again it's all just coming from one place. It's it's one platform. So um if if I'm the parent I know that 99% of my communication is going to come from there. Obviously, if I, you know, um, if if I, if I need something from a grade, it's going to come from obviously SIS, right? From from a student's grade, thing like that. But I know even parent square and harmony already talk. I know Sam's already had that conversation with both of those entities. And so, they already talk. So, you can literally populate like in Parent Square. And feel free to jump in, Sam, if I misspe here. You can
077populate like the the freshman class and it pulls it from Harmony to Parent Square and you can just send the message through Parent Square to like all the freshman parents for example or all your senior parents and and so they talk. So we put a new kid in they sing nightly. Is it nightly every night? um you know we we move a kid in um man that kid's parents you know he's a senior doesn't know anything about when graduation's coming up you know whatever we send something out we don't have to worry about having Johnny he's already in the in the in the population group so um so some some big um that is not as you can see that is a little bit more expensive the first year that number is a little off
078because it's a flat per dollar kid rate it's I think it's $5 per student per year and and they estimated a little high I think they put it at86 68 on the quote and I think we're at 855 right now. Um so that number may fluctuate a little bit. [snorts] Um and then there's obviously some first year training but then the next year there is savings actually and and that was one honestly that whether or not there was savings on that one I was that's not what I was looking for. I was looking at more like can we streamline services um and and try to be better communicators with our families. So >> does that also hit final forms? Will that be gone as well? >> You know that's a good question. I don't think
079so because final in the final form is your physical piece with the [clears throat] doctor. >> There's so much stuff that's why I was curious on that one. >> I don't they there there is so I I I actually was just talking to the lady yesterday from parent square and they have two different versions. They have I don't know what they call it and then they have the premium. Let's just call it the premium. I don't remember but it had secured forms and user par parent forms or something like that. There was there was two other pieces to it. So in there you could send like um if a student had an individualized education plan you could send it through parent square. We already used the state system anyway. So to me that seemed like
080a little overkill. I was like let's not go that route for now because it was like a add-on of like a$150 a kit or something whatever. And I was like can I always add that later if I want you know if there's other things that we find we would use it for. The other one was where you could literally like do polls and you could um like if you wanted to poll the senior parents about when we're going to have the sunrise breakfast or something like that. I'm like we can just do that through a Google form like you know what I mean? Um I don't know that we need to pay money for that service, right? So there was some other pieces but yeah like the the event link like event link would still
081be there. That's how we contract with other schools and things like that. Um the final forms piece. >> So >> I wouldn't think so. I don't know. I don't I don't do anything >> it is not because of the secure document it has to >> I mean if we had the secure document piece maybe we could take place of final forms but I don't yeah I I don't know >> so the internet says while parent square and final forms have overlapping features regarding digital forms and communications they are designed for different primary purposes and not cannot fully replace each other square is primarily a communication platform final forms is a specialized compliance and forms management platform >> and primarily only use that for athletic physical >> student athletes for football last year. We got a
082grade that each of these things have to be checked from the athletic department that it's all been received to >> make sure kids are eligible. >> Right. Right. >> And I was sitting there thinking, man, if that goes away. >> Yeah. Well, because the IHSAA specifically >> Yeah. >> kind of endorses final forms, too. So, I don't know that even if it even if it did, I don't know that I would not want to do [clears throat] that if that's what the IHSAA is kind of like endorsing quote unquote. >> I was under that impression as well with IHSAA. >> Yeah. I mean, when you go to their like I don't go anymore, but when I was a principal and you go to the spring and uh fall principal ad uh conferences, I mean, it's
083like one of their things they hit, right? I mean, they're basically telling you to use it without telling you to use it, right? So, >> thank you. >> Yep. Um the other thing would be the technology vendor and engineering um for v engineering and vctto services. Um so you've got just the the first two pages of the contract. Um you're and I will download the entire contract but I wasn't going to print them because I think uh the new one is like 40ome pages and the old one is like 39 pages. Um so we are wrapping up year two of that contract. Um, and so, [clears throat] um, Sam and I have talked quite a bit, um, about that and also talked with FiveStar. Appreciate their their partnership to the district. Um, and so we've
084asked them to remove the virtual health desk. I think we've had one ticket in that in there all year. Is that correct, Sam? >> I think we we've had it between 30 and 40, but I think they only solved one ticket. >> Oh, okay. And you took care you took care of the rest because the rest of them were things you would just take care of on site, right? it was. So maybe there was a ticket put in. It's like you don't need a ticket for that. I just need to come do this thing. Right. So >> they just couldn't physically. >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's some things, right? I mean I imagine I'm not a technology person. Sam, you can remote into my computer and fix something if you needed to. Right. Okay.
085But if I but if I was having problems with this cord, >> you you physically need to come help me. Correct. Okay. So I think there are tickets that are put in there that sometimes they're like, "Yeah, we we can't do that. that's your person on site has to go fix that thing. So, um, so yeah, I'm sorry. I I just kept hearing the number one. I was like, >> so one actually solved sorry through it. Um, so I I think again in a if you were in a much larger district, maybe that's something you would use more consistently, you know, where people need a remote into your desktops or workstations and things like that. Um, but being small, Sam can literally walk across the driveway to the elementary school and back. um it's not
086like we're driving across town to, you know, go fix something or whatever, right? So, um so anyways, I've requested that quote to modify it to remove that um part of the contract out. And so you can see um year one it was 117,900. Year two it was 123,720. Um next year it would drop to 86,400. So a savings of 37,000 just over 37,000. So, um, again, I think hopefully that that frees us up, um, some money to work with and then look at down the road, you know, whether we can maybe add a part-time person to help Sam or whether if some of these other things we're doing make his life and job easier. Um, I I went I notice I negotiated I went from seven earlier in the meeting down to one. So, part-time
087or something, you know, but but anyway, so um but anyways, just taking a look at that um savings again, appreciate FiveStar uh and and all their help. They're helping us with the virtualization project last summer. They're helping us with our wireless network access points project this summer. Um they do a lot of that just heavy lifting on the engineering stuff when when when Sam is needing help um you know on the really deep deep stuff, you know, whatever. Um if um you know with an SIS platform change, things like that, they they would be jumping in and helping us out a little bit too. And so um they're great to work with. So that's that. Um, I know that was a lot. Sorry. Any questions on that? Okay. Um, the last thing I'd touch in
088there on operational matters is our before and after school care program. Um, you you probably know Mrs. Akre sent a letter out just uh right before right after spring break. Um, you know, the 21st century grant has been a federal cut um that that is a grant um that the district has received I think for eight years now. Does that sound about right? Um about a quarter of a million dollars a year. Um, so it is a huge hit. Um, I cannot stress that enough. Um, a quarter of a million dollars per school year. Um, and and that was a federal grant that was passed through the state and then that we got um and and that was a federal level cut. Um, and so that is how we have paid um for Bulldog Club
089um on top of a lot of other things. Um, but if if I'm a parent, the the part I've seen is the Bulldog Club. um some of our parents, certainly not every parent. Um but it's also paid for um a significant chunk of um some staff cost um and then also some other programming and and educational opportunities for for our kids. And so um that is a huge loss um right now. Um and actually we have a visit tomorrow um from the Boys and Girls Club. um they provide before and after school care program at Frankfurt and Clinton Prairie both um and they are coming to take a look and meet with us about you know would they be interested in offering that same before and after school care program here um obviously it would
090be it would be a paid program it would not be a free program um but we want to take a look at that um you know it's not something financially we can just like pick up we just don't have a quarter million laying around to just pick that up or something um and so if Boys and Girls Club Um I they sounded very interested on the phone. I'm I'm I'm I'm um uh I would say 99% confident. I think they will they will be interested in putting a proposal together for us. Um that would be obviously free to the district. There wouldn't be an expense. Um there would still be some um there would be some work involved because obviously they would use our spaces. There would be communication between our principles and our counselor
091and our teachers and things like that, you know, with them and and myself. But um but as far as like a direct expense, there would not be. Um but if if for some reason they were not um and obviously you've seen some change with Boys and Girls Club here locally, the umbrella they worked under. And I I think um my understanding uh from the conversations I've had is that was more organizational restructuring kind of it wasn't they they were cutting things or programs or stuff like that. So um >> so how would that work? Would they get people drop them off there and they >> No, it would be it would be here. Yep. It would still be here in our elementary school. Yep. Yep. They would just manage it, staff it, you know, um
092they would as far as like payments, you know, parents would just pay the Boys and Girls Club directly. You know, we're not involved in the financial aspect of it. We're not involved in the employment of it. Um the P, [cough] the staff, [clears throat] um you know, they asked me about how many kids we had daily. They asked um you know, who currently works it. Um they were pretty excited that our staff, our students work it and they're like, "Sweet. I mean, we can just bring them on to Boys and Girls Club." Um there's obviously there is there you know you hate to say there's a benefit to it but it that grant is a lot of work and so now certainly it the work was worth it I mean to get a quarter of
093a million dollars um but they pick up some of those pieces um and so um that part is is a is a good thing. So but anyways we I think I think that's tomorrow um that they're coming um without taking a peek at my calendar real quick. Um, so excited for them to meet, you know, our elementary staff leaders, um, kind of walk around our building, um, see our kiddos and and talk about what that program might look here. And then, um, you know, if that if that's something we'll move forward with, um, you know, we'll be rolling that out to parents as quick as possible. Obviously, there there are some families that are like, oh, shoot, what would I do next year? You know, based on my job, I I really utilize that before
094after school care program or or things like that. So um so we are putting working on that. So >> is that something where depending on what type of numbers that looks like? I know originally we said we may be concerned about losing kids because of the program >> if we're looking at losing that after school situation and a lot of [snorts] parents say well hey I'm going to have to pay out of pocket anyway >> and now I'm not going to get my kid brought back home or at least dropped off local. Even if we go to no cost, should we still consider an afternoon drop off location with a few buses like we currently do? Yes, that's a cost to us, but we're not losing x number of kids. >> I would I think
095that's something we definitely need to keep an eye on. >> Yeah, I think I mean we could that's something we could take a look at. I mean, we and we could be pretty flexible about it if we needed to run like >> I would just hate to lose kids over a >> bus because I can't get Yeah. >> And I think that's a huge number of that we just need to remember and and keep an eye on. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think um you know that that I guess there there's a couple moving parts there, right? You know, obviously >> Oh, sure. Yeah. >> Um but yeah, I think that's something you know obviously we have drivers willing to do it every single day. Um and so it's not like we're adding you know yes
096there is an expense you know and there's a costbenefit analysis there right and so um you know there's >> there's some there's some equilibrium there somewhere right you know I mean it would obviously you know running a large school bus for one child you know we're not going to probably do but you know but running a large school bus for 14 children absolutely right and so um that you know get into a little trickiness there you'd say man why can't we just run a white bus you know activity bus for one kid. Well, we can't stop those buses and roads and we're not allowed to pull in people's driveways necessarily depending on um you know their educational status, too. And so there there's some transportation >> and even if like right now a lot of
097places we just stop like >> they stop Yeah. one drop off similar >> to >> I'm just trying to avoid losing% kids over a transportation situation. >> Absolutely. So, um the other the the last thing I would add and I and I I guess it's operational matters, financial facil, I don't know what it is. Um we [snorts] had our kindergarten roundup um last week. Um and so certainly want to share that out, you know, with uh families that may have kiddos ready to enter kindergarten or enter um our early learning program. Um might have room [clears throat] for more. We always have room for more. Um we'll be putting out yard signs in the next week or so in all of our um early learning kindergarten kiddos yards just um um one hopefully we'll get
098some cute pictures them out by their yard sign but then also um just as a way to you know promote our our district and the great things that are happening in our classroom. So um so certainly if you talk to anybody that has a child we would love to have them here at Clinton Central. Um think we're doing some some great things for kids. So, um, but I think that's all I have. Mr. Davidson, any board members got anything? We want to move to adjourn. >> Second. >> Moved by seconded by Bryce to adjourn the meeting. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed. Meeting adjourned.