001Okay. >> All right. Good evening everyone. Thank you for joining us on this snowy evening. Before we stand to say the pledge, I'd like to just take a moment with tomorrow being Veterans Day. I'd like to thank all of our veterans out there for their service and sacrifice to our country. just know that you are greatly appreciated. So, thank you for all that you've done for us. Thanks. Now, if you so choose, we're going to stand and say the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with all. Is that >> sure whether she is that? All right. The first item on the agenda this evening is amendments to the agenda. >> Uh, Mr. Chair, I have none
002to request this evening. Thank you. >> Anyone else? All right. Moving right along. The next item on the agenda is students of the month, Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you, Mrs. Cherry. And we're going to take some time and recognize our students of the month from each of our buildings. Uh parents or grandparents, if you're here and your child is getting recognized, you want to move more up towards the front to get a a better picture of them, that'd be great. And Mrs. Perkins are we're not we're not quite ready at North this this evening, right? Okay. So, Mrs. Hollingsworth, we're going to skip ahead to South Elementary and recognize your student of the month, please. Well, South Elementary is proud to introduce Miss Rory Krooks, as this month's student of the month. Rory is a
003student in Mrs. Carlson and Mrs. White's fourth grade classroom. And she lives on a farm with her mom, dad, and is one of five siblings. She has two sisters, Tinley and Piper, and two brothers, Landon and Leo. And she has a lot of goats, like 75. four llamas, three alpacas, lots of chickens, three barn cats, and two guard dogs named Jewel and security. Rory is an incredible student at South Elementary. She's in highly organized, which was our warrior way to success skill we've been working on. According to Rory, South Elementary is great because all the teachers have good energy. She also said that the building is just a happy place to be. Even as you walk in in the mornings, it's just a happy place to be. And we all agree with her. She loves
004to be the teacher helper of the week and the responsibility that comes along with it. Her favorite class is reading and her favorite special is PE. In Rory's spare time, she enjoys playing video games with her brother, specifically Hogwarts Legacy on Luna. She also enjoys spending time with her siblings outside on the trampoline and on the swings. Right now, Piper and Tenley do all of the chores, but that changes to Rory as Piper goes off to college next year. She's most looking forward to feeding the baby goats and least looking forward to having to help Tinley milk the goats. Rory said that the best influence on her life are her parents, her siblings, her teachers, and her best friends, Kylie, Grace, and Elise. Her friends have helped her with her emotions and making new friends.
005Her mom helps her push through things, and her dad loves her even when she makes a bad decision. Her siblings, Piper, and Tinley, have helped her to have a good attitude. Landon taught her how to play baseball, and Leo taught her how to play video games and football. Rory has many dreams and goals as she gets older. She has ideas to be a veterinarian, a teacher, a hair stylist, a nail technician, and a farmer. We're all standing in her corner, excited to cheer her on, no matter what she decides to become. If Rory ruled the school, everyone would go to class, and she would actually spend the day with me, which I was so excited about. Rory and I would walk around the school visiting every classroom. We would go get Leo out of class
006and have him hang out with us as well. After he goes back to class, we would take her class outside for extra recess and we would, of course, both play. After extra recess, we would go back to Mrs. Carlson's room and just hang out with the class for a while while Rory's mom would send in lunch for both of us because her mom makes the best home lunches. And later in the day, we would door dash Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts for ourselves. I was in. Rory was nominated by your teachers, Mrs. White and Mrs. Carlson. Mrs. White had the following to say about Rory. Rory not only organizes her desk and her backpack, but she's organized in her thinking and her learn learning. Rory is a straight A student who uses these skills to expand
007her learning into her outside curricular activities. Keeping her studies organized allows her more time to work with the goats that she shows at the fairgrounds. Rory is an all-around organized individual who loves school, her friends, and her teachers. Mrs. Carlson added, "Rory does an amazing job at being organized in the classroom. I see that she takes a few extra minutes at the end of our class or at the end of a math lesson to organize her desk and papers to be prepared for what happens next. What I also see in class is Rory's organization skills, which allow her to help others and be an awesome classmate who encourages them to do their best and is willing to help her take the time to achieve her goals. Congratulations, Rory, on being South Student of the Month.
008[applause] Congratulations, Rory. >> I'm a little tired after that. [laughter] >> And Mrs. Berkkey, would you like to introduce our middle school student of the month, please? >> FFA seems to produce some organized kiddos. >> It does. >> All right. This month, I am proud to introduce Madison Kindred, our seventh grade student of the month. Maddie is the daughter of Katie and Ray and sister to Aaron and Georgia. When I had the chance to interview Maddie, it was immediately clear that animals are a huge part of her life. No matter what question I asked, her love for animals found its way into the answer. Whether she was talking about her rabbits, her dogs, or her plans for the future, Mattiey's favorite class is agriculture because, as she puts it, it's fun. She's active in both
009FFA and 4, and she lights up when she talks about what she's learning in these programs. In FFA, she's participating in Skillathon and forestry this year, and she's excited to start livestock judging soon. In 4H, she raises and shows rabbits. She currently has eight, but already had plans when we talked to add a n in November, so I don't know if you have the ninth yet or not. She competes in showmanship, breed ID, and written testing. But what she really loves is caring for them dayto-day. Her favorite rabbit is a Belgian hair named Rue who she told me binks when she's happy. And I didn't know what this means, but she explained that it's when she jumps and kicks her back legs in the air. Mattie's interest in rabbits started with her babysitter who happens
010to run the rabbit portion of the fair and it's grown into a true passion. She hopes to become a veterinarian one day and live on a farm. When she's not with her animals, Maddie enjoys working on ceramics for 4. She's entered several pieces over the years. A rabbit, a turtle planter, a cowboy boot, and even a pig. Although she laughed and she told me that one of them exploded in the kiln. If she could instantly master any skill, she said she'd like to learn how to make ceramics from scratch rather than using molds and kits. That mix of creativity, curiosity, and willingness to keep improving shows up in everything she does. Maddie was nominated this month for demonstrating our warrior way trait of organization. When I asked her what being organized means to her, she
011said, "Knowing where to find everything that's important so that you're not always looking for things and can focus when you need to." Her teachers say she models this skill every day. One teacher wrote, "I am proud to nominate Mattie Kindred as our seventh grade student of the month for exemplifying the college and career skill of organization. Maddie consistently demonstrates exceptional organizational habits that set her apart as a student, preparing her for a successful future. She carefully organizes her class binders and notebooks using separate tabs and color coding, making it making it easy for her to find information quickly and efficiently. Maddie diligently documents all her assignments, tests, quiz reminders, and due dates, ensuring she stays on top of her responsibilities. These habits contribute significantly to her strong academic performance. Beyond her organizational skills, Mattie shows
012a natural curiosity and a genuine desire to learn. She actively engages in class and takes on leadership roles during group work, guiding her peers with confidence and cooperation. Mattie's ability to stay organized not only benefits her own learning, but also inspires those around her to adopt similar habits, preparing all students for success beyond the classroom. Her dedication to organization equips her with essential skills that were will ser will serve her well in her future career. Her agriculture teacher, Miss Crosby, added, "Mattie is the perfect example of a leader. She works hard behind the scenes to ensure tasks are completed and make sure everyone's voice is heard. I've enjoyed having Maddie in class and in FFA and have been impressed by her kindness, compassion, and eagerness to grow as a leader." And her Spanish teacher, Mr.
013Solder, said, "Mattie is an exemplary student who's able to excel in class because her organizational skills allow her to process information and stay current with what's going on. Maddie is thoughtful, responsible, and kind. Qualities that show up in how she treats both people and animals. She sets an example for her classmates through her work ethic, her organization, and her quiet leadership. It's easy to see why her teachers admire her so much. We're proud to recognize you, Maddie, as our seventh grade student of the month. Congratulations. [applause] >> Congratulations, Maddie. And just so you know, the addition we're working on at the high school right now on the construction project is the art room edition. It has it'll have its own throwing room. So, you'll get your chance to do those ceramics from scratch. And now
014we're going to recognize our high school student of the month. And Mr. Claude Felder is going to do that for us. Thank you. I'd like to introduce you to my win. Maya was nominated by Holly Fair, our fax department chair, and she said Maya has been very involved this school year where she can be found at Little Warriors early in the morning. She then works with preschoolers as part of her early child education class. All of this before starting her day at Danville High School. She continues to study hard throughout the day in preparation to work with children one day, taking courses such as AP psychology, biomedical sciences, and her ECE curriculum. She's the first to volunteer her thoughts, experiences, and assistance to her classmates while also being a part of National Honor Society crew
015and FCA. Her work is truly centered around helping others and making a difference in our community. When Maya and I got to sit down together in my office and talk, Mia shared with me that her faith plays the biggest role in her life. She plans to pursue youth ministry in the future, possibly starting her studies at Old Miss, where she has deep family roots. And it is my pleasure to introduce to you and to honor my Dville High School student. [applause] Congratulations, Maya. and to all of our students of the month. And I want to thank uh parents and grandparents for providing such great kids, raising raising great kids and and also to our teachers for taking the time to recognize these great young folks. Thank you. >> All right. The next item on our
016agenda is student commendations. Dr. Schaefer. >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> [clears throat] >> We're going to take a few moments. Thanks, Mr. Raider. Test, test, test, test. Now, We're picking the gas. All right, we're going to uh take a few moments and recognize some really outstanding young people, some some of our students and student athletes. Uh we have tonight a couple different sets of awards. We have some athletic awards that are mixed in with a lot of academic awards, a lot of academic allstate awards. And for those of you that may or may not know, the all state awards are given by the representative coaches associations for each sports. So, we have about four different sports to recognize tonight. And guys, we're just going to call you up one at a time. I
017want you to stay up here until everybody is called. And so, we'll have four different groups up here when we're finished. So, we're gonna begin with Taylor Jones, high school, all state cheer. [applause] >> Braden Jowski, boys tennis, academic all state. [applause] Ella McCormack, volleyball, academic all state. [applause] Cassie Thompson, volleyball, academic all state. [applause] Riley Buckner, volleyball, academic all state. [applause] Vanderbar, volleyball, academic all state. [applause] Winsley Dorsy, [snorts] girls soccer, first team all conference, IHSAA sectional champion, first team all county, all district honorable mention and all academic award. [applause] Sylvie French, first team all conference district honorable mention and all academic award. [applause] Madison Valenci, first team all conference, first team all county. Uh, ISCA top team player and all district honorable mention [applause] Casey Hmel. All academic award, [applause] Baylor Myers, second
018team all conference, all county honorable mention, ISCA all district honorable mention. [applause] Caleb Bloomer, ISCA all academic award. [applause] Chloe Hacker, ISCA all academic award. [applause] Sophia Wilson, ISCA all district honorable mention. [applause] Avery Watson, all academic award. [applause] Isabella Schwarz, all county honorable mention. All district honorable mention. [applause] >> Melissa Jones, ISCA all academic award. [applause] Sophia Pierce, all academic award. [applause] Alyssa Haggler, all academic award. [applause] Kaitlin Manzer, all academic award. [applause] And of course, I'd like to add that all of these young ladies on the girls soccer team were sectional champions. [applause] Ladies, I'm going to ask you to turn around for just a a second so the board can see you because it is on behalf of the board of school trustees. I want to congratulate you on your fine academic
019and athletic accomplishments. We uh are thankful for you, thankful for the performances you put on for your school and the way you've represented us. So, congratulations to you. And we're gonna turn you back around now. Dr. Walker is going to get your picture here as a group. >> Windows here. >> [applause] >> I see perfect up close. Do you not? >> All right. Congratulations, ladies. We will take a short break for those of you who would like to exit. You know, I'd always love for you to stay. We do have a construction update if anyone would like to stay and hear that. [laughter] >> I'm guessing our our next kid didn't elementary. >> Is that you? >> It's him. >> We were in the same cohort in the admin cohort together. >> What's that? >>
020Matt and I were in the same admin cohort together. We taught Wayne along with He came in after >> came in after >> he was like the transition from school to here. >> Yeah. I started off in the house. >> And then you went upstairs. [laughter] >> I think he was tucked in the entryway there. [laughter] He was in township. [clears throat] >> All right. The next item on our agenda is the construction update. >> No community input. Oh, now is the time for community input if anyone in the room would like to step forward. Seeing as there is no one stepping forward. Thank you, Mr. Bryant. We will skip the community input. Next item on the agenda is a constructive construction update. >> I've got perfect. >> All right. Good evening. Thank you for
021having me. Uh yeah, we'll get into the transportation update so you can kind of see here. I'll talk to the best of my on this one, the uh project update. So, it looks like they completed all the site ES controls, demo, stabilization, and the buildup of the building pad. Working on site storm drains and installation of the new water line, installing some of the light bases and site electrical, completing some of the building under slab rough ends, electrical and plumbing, and pouring the slab upgrade and starting some of the block walls that you've seen. I did see that they actually started some placing some of the asphalt for the bus parking lot uh pour in this other side concrete pavement and they're going to continue setting the structural steel next. And then yeah, we just
022have some of the floor plans to help remind you kind of what it's going to look like here. And then I believe there's a rendering here as well. And then I believe we got some actual site photos as well. You've not been over there recently. So, any questions on transportation next one here. So for the pool, uh Cory, if you could could you go to the actual phasing plan maybe to kind of help navigate this one here. >> Yeah. >> Uh so the big one today u so we did successfully turn over the new pool. So um you guys did have your first uh swim practice today. So that was really exciting to see. And I know that uh kids were really excited to be there. I know the construction team was pretty proud. It
023is a very facility if you've not seen pictures of it. So, um we're excited for the community. We're excited for Danville. Um so, that was a big big check mark for the project. So, we'll be in there for probably the next week just completing some punch list items, but um yeah, it is it is turned over to you guys along with the boys basketball locker room as well. So, that team was in there this afternoon. So, that was actually part of 1B. So, that turned over last week too. So huge ac accomplishment from from our team on that one. So uh the other phases uh that we're in right now is 1B that is your performing arts that is the band and choir and the boys basketball locker room. So right now we're working on
024some of the overhead mechanical electrical. Um there's a lot of bulkhead ceiling work in there, doors and hardware and furniture. As of right now, we're looking at turning uh phase 1B over to the school um right at the new year of this year. >> Uh boys basketball said that was turned over and then um kind of phase 12 kind of still in that green area is your new uh project lead the way your new shop area. So right now um in there a lot of the case work's already completed. Uh we're working on finalizing some of the flooring. Uh we'll get some of the owner furniture equipment and final clean in there. So, as as of right now, Project Lead the Way will also be turned over at the first of this year, too. Uh
025softball field, uh we did complete all the turf install. Um if you driven by there, you'll kind of see the press box framing finishes [clears throat] are going on, fencing, and then um here this spring, we'll start working on some of the sight grading, the landscape, uh the scoreboard will go up here next month. Foul post, back stop, uh padding, and batting cages. Uh tenatively right now we're looking around February, midFebruary to turn turn the softball field over so it'll be ready for the spring. Phase 5C, that is your existing classroom renovation. Uh that area right now, we're kind of in the final finishing mode. We're just wrapping up some bathrooms, ceramic wall tiles, some plumbing finishes, TVs are installed, ceiling tiles are going in and owner furniture will arrive here at the I think
026it's December 22nd. So that area as well will also be turned over to the school January 1st at the new year. >> So you'll basically have all 2B, 5A, and 5C um at the new year. So that whole kind of north northeast corner >> uh or sorry phase 5B the media center and alternative school that area right now we just finished up some of the overhead u overhead painting the masonry walls are going on mechanical electrical plumbing rough bins uh so right now we're we there's a bunch of decorative clouds acoustic clouds that we got to put in the new library there those are going to be starting this week and that area as well is scheduled to be turned over to you um at the first of this at the new year So there
027is a a lot that we got kind of going on here for the first in the year. So yeah, project lead the way, your performing arts, your alternative school, um and your new uh media center library, and then the existing, uh classroom renovation is all scheduled for this new year. So that's the the big the big push that we have upcoming. And then future phases that we will be starting uh will be phase seven and then phase eight which is on the second floor. So once we hand over the new media center we'll take over kind of the center center of the school there um here starting at the new year and then we we will also be working in phase 6A that we're currently in now. That is the new art edition. So, all
028the uh um slab on grade concrete is completed. The CMU block walls are going up and then structural steel uh will start to go up here in the next couple weeks. And then we'll get the roof on, metal deck, and that area right there is scheduled to be turned over to you um at the end. Well, at the start of the next school year, we'll be everything at 6A. >> So, still a lot going on. And then also not to mention, we'll also be at North Elementary next summer as well. There's a lot of mechanical work that will be completed over there and some door access controls. So, we'll also be over at elementary. >> When does the uh basketball court area 16 get redone? >> 16 will start this summer. >> So, yeah, we
029we'll get in there. We'll we will add all the new fire protection, all the new lighting, painting, and then we'll replace the gym for in there this summer as well. >> And will that be ready for the start of school next year? That is what we're pushing to be a start of school. We're also replacing the air handlers that are in the main gym, too. So, there's there's there's quite a bit of work in the main gym. Um, this summer is going to be very busy. Uh, we'll be doing all warrior hallway, which was the hallway between auxiliary gym and the main gym. Um, we'll be doing the commons area between 1B and the auditorium. Uh, we will also be um doing the main gym, like I said, and then we'll be starting the cafeteria
030in phase 10. And then we'll be starting your new mega chemistry lab in phase nine this summer. So lot lot of work this summer. >> Are those the last phases then? >> What's that? >> Will that be the last phases to do? >> No, we'll still uh you still have phase 11 14 and then there's just a little bit in auxiliary gym that we'll be doing in the um in the wrestling room up there and there's some finishes that we have in auxiliary gym. But I would say for the most part I think right now we're we're at like 66% complete with the project. So, a lot of the major milestones are done and now we're just going to be starting to kind of do the renovation part. >> When's the targeted overall completion date
031for the high school? >> It'll be fall of 27. >> Fall of 27. Was the pool just turned over today? >> We got the certificate last week, but yes, it was turned over to you guys today. >> So, that's the November 1 target date. Is that right? >> November 10th. >> 10th was the date. I had a number >> the first in my I was trying to burst your little bubble. I guess I was off on my my calendar. [laughter] We are uh planning forward to do a little ribbon cutting uh for that facility. Uh their first home meet I believe is the 23rd and I thought we'd do something just right that evening just ahead of their meet. So we're working on those plans as well. >> There's some pictures too if you want
032to go back as well. So that's the new pool corridor. We're still working on some of the display cases. And then you can kind of see there, that's the renovations of the u existing classrooms on the far left. And then right there on the top left, that is your new um new media center. So everything's already painted overhead. We got a lot of bulkhead works. And you can kind of see on the top far right, that is the new choir room. And then you can see on the bottom left that is the new art edition on the north end of the building. And then on the far bottom right that is the new project lead the way the one of the classrooms in the wood shop. >> Where's the media center? Where is it in
033the same spot as it was the library or it's a different spot? It got >> different different spot. So it's it's where the uh old art room >> it's back over there. >> So that that'll be the new media center. So the old uh band and choir and art room that That's where the new media center alternative school be located. And then culinary life skills will go up to the second floor where the existing library is at. >> That's right. >> There's a new softball field. Um turf turned out amazing. So yeah, we're wrapping up just some finishes out there. We'll get the press box framed up and then some sight work. And then that's the boys basketball locker room bathroom there. So that was turned over as well today to the to the team.
034And then obviously the wait room that was turned over already. And then you can kind of see a photo on the bottom right of the pool. But yeah, I would definitely recommend if you haven't seen in person to go in there. It's >> it's interesting that because those are the the renditions are on the top, the original renditions, and then the the actual is on the bottom. So they >> came out pretty close. And then yeah, there's another cost by phase breakdown of kind of where we're at projectwise on the budget. So it's broken out per phase. >> Has anything changed on that since uh 23? >> No. So yeah, this is just up to date um through our um October billing. So kind of where we're at through the project. I said you kind
035of see percent complete there. We're roughly at 66%. So I said a lot of the major milestone bigger ticket items been taken care of. So now we're just kind of getting to the the remodel portion of the project. >> Still still going to try and come in under budget? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Any other questions for me? Nick, sorry. >> That's my brother. >> See, that's Do you really have a brother? >> He's He's at the parks department. >> See, that's where I get confused. I know him very well. I apologize. >> All right. Thank you for coming this evening. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Thanks, man. >> All right. Next item on the agenda, approval of the October 13th regular school board meeting minutes. Need a motion to
036approve those minutes. So move. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Comments or questions? All in favor? That passes unanimously. >> Wait. >> I [laughter] >> I apologize. It has been a day. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. I'll I'll get better here. I promise. All right. Next item on the agenda. Approval of the October 27th, 2025 special public meeting minutes. Need a motion to approve those. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Heel. Comments or questions? All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Thank you. Next item on the agenda, treasures report. Mr. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mr. Cherry. Uh October fund balance in our property and state tax supported funds was
0377,462,156. We had actual expenditures in our education fund of 1,772,696. Uh we had no expenditures in our debt service fund and the operations fund had expenditures of $764,440. We did transfer 300,000 from the education fund to the operations fund. And that brings our corporation's total transfer for the year to 11.94% of the total education fund revenue or 12.94% of the total state tuition support. I would ask for the board's approval of our treasures report and happy to answer any questions. >> All right. Motion to approve the treasures report as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Comments or questions? >> Just to clarify on the transfer of the 11.94. >> Again, you're anticipating that's going to be closer to 15% and 26, >> correct? Yes. 14
038would be is kind of the target that we have for right now. >> Okay. >> Any other comments or questions? All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, approval of claims. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mrs. Cherry. Uh, for the month, we had pre-written claims of $389,56626. We had val voucher claims of $82,41159. Uh, bringing total claims for the month to 1,191,977.85. I would ask for the board's approval of our claims for the month of October and happy to answer any questions. >> Motion to approve the claims as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Helil. Comments or questions? >> Question. Hendricks Power, the three-phase. Does [clears throat] how far did that have to come? >> That came
039from the corner of Lincoln and Mill. I'm sorry, Lincoln and Mackey. So, it basically ran all the way down to [clears throat] the far end of the property here >> just to get it down. But Duke's Duke services the what the South Elementary and >> Duke is Duke will service all of our properties except for transportation. >> Except for transportation. >> Yes. The actual line between service of Duke and Hendricks Power runs right through the middle of this building. Uh when it was built, I don't know how or why, but it was decided that Duke would be the provider here for the middle school. But once we get on the other side of the middle school, that is solely Hendrick's power. >> Hendrick's power is I I assumed it was coming from the west. They
040were bringing the three-phase, but it's down here. >> They do have power out there, but because it's the three-phase. They didn't have that over in that direction because that's all residential that way. So that's why they had to bring it from the other direction and come all the way across. >> Do we have three phase at the maintenance facility? >> Yes. >> Is that Duke there or is that Hendrickx Power there too? >> That is Duke. >> That's Duke. The three is already there. >> Yeah. Like I said, once we're all done, the transportation facility should be the only one on Hendricks power. >> The only one on Hendricks. Yeah. Okay. >> Dr. Schaefer, I see we got the expenses for the contracted buses. How many drivers are we currently short transportation to fill our
041routes so >> we can get to a point where we're no longer contracting buses? >> We are making progress. In fact, we just on this dock, I hired another driver and we have a couple more in training. Um, in speaking to Mrs. response on the other day. We're hoping that as we bring on these next couple of drivers, that will allow us to move away from our contracted drivers here as soon as we get them licensed. One of the challenges been the backlog at the testing sites. So, we're getting drivers through with their training. We can't get them into testing very quickly to get to get that finished. So, we anticipate I I can't set a hard timeline on it, but I would say as we move through December here, you know, we we're going
042to get ourselves in a better position to move away from the contracted drivers. So, how many drivers are we short right now? >> Uh, three, I believe. >> And so, that amount that's shown there for the contracted buses is for three routes. >> I think we started with four, didn't we? >> Yeah, we started with four and we've reduced by one driver. >> But, we've also, in fairness, we've also had to add a couple routes because of overcrowding. So, we've not been able to just replace, you know, each each new driver that came on didn't simply replace a contracted driver because we've replaced one. We've had to add a couple other routes in addition. So, we are we are making ground. >> So, when do you hope to be done with contracted busing? >> I
043would hope sometime in January. That's if everybody who's on board with us now stays there and the people we're training now progress forward and complete their training and come on board. >> Okay. And have we gotten buses prior to the Well, after the referendum, you took away busing for some areas in the corporation. Have we gotten back to full busing everywhere or? >> No. Well, we provide limited busing um in some of those areas for the kids that go over to north u but the kids that come to south uh are still in the walk zone. We still have the walk zone at Clear Creek and then over towards the Barry Null area. Those walk zones are still in place. It would be our goal to try to get to a point where we can
044bust those those students. Uh we just we've had we've been so tight with overcrowding, so we've had to add just to get kids here that live out further away. Uh then we want to try to replace our contracted drivers out. And I I will say that the contracted folks we've had working have done an excellent job. They really have and they've helped us out tremendously. It's been our goal all along as we move through first semester to try to get them replaced out. >> So you still do, if I understand what you just said, you still have a goal that you want to get busy back to what it was pre-referendum 2019. >> We would like to. Yes. >> You talked about testing. Where do they where does that take place at? They they have
045identified sites around the state. Some of those are easier to get into and some of them aren't very close. Um now you said that I just asked uh >> that it really doesn't matter. The qu my question I've got is can somebody within our our our our community or our our staff get licensed to do the training and and administer those tests in house? Is that a possibility that you could get >> I don't I think you have to be an approved site through the state through the Department of Motor Vehicles, Department of Transportation to get there. >> Yeah, they're they're designated sites for that. Now, to your question, I'm not sure what all that takes and maybe a fair question to ask. >> I know of other companies that do provide the CDL training
046like say at Keystone, they they can do all that in-house and get >> the training done there. So, I I just wonder if that was a possibility you've looked at. I know we sent some to down on the south side and we've sent some into Indie, but those ain't those the two nearest sites. >> Yeah. And we do a lot of training inhouse. This is just more the DOT side of it and so it's to pass that final test. Yeah, that's more and it's in Whitestown is typically is the closest one. The rest are I believe in maybe Evansville and then up in Chicago area. So yeah, those Whitestown's the only close one that makes sense for us and they're extremely busy. So >> we're kind of left at their mercy. >> Okay. Okay. Thank
047you. >> I have a question in regards to our contracted bus drivers. Had has there been consideration about keeping them on board and to allow us to open up these areas that we're not busing currently. >> We could consider that. I I will tell you it is expensive. Uh the contracted services cost us more because they have a lot of overhead to cover. um we could consider it, but given our budget, um that would be a tough consideration from a cost standpoint. Uh and again, it was interesting because we were at a countywide meeting here recently and the other districts in the county are going through the same thing we are in terms of finding um finding drivers. So, we're we're moving in a positive direction, but I also know a lot of times this
048is two steps forward, one step back, too, because about the time you think you've got things covered, you can expand, you lose somebody. Um, so we are cautiously optimistic is the best way I can put it right now. Our first goal is to cover our extended routes, which we've been doing, then replace uh our contracted drivers, um, and then try to expand services to pick up those other areas. So, I see here we pay is this $18,000 a month for our three drivers? >> What do you think? Three in-house drivers would cost a third of that. Half of that, >> maybe half. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, if we So, it makes sense to relieve them but still continue to work to >> find our own. >> Yeah. And I I really appreciate our all
049of our drivers and um Mrs. Swanson, her staff, they've been working very hard. They're making a lot of good progress. Um, I I would say the uh the demeanor and the mindset of our uh transportation department is is really good. Uh it's really improved, I think, over the last year or so, and we're moving in a positive direction and we're pleased with the direction we're going. We hope we can do all those things we want to do. >> And just one other question. I noticed that on one of the spreadsheets there, there was a Midstate Superintendent Conference 2026 that 26 $2,800. That's just to get in the front door. >> That's registration and lodging. >> Registration and lodging. Is that just for yourself then? >> Yes. >> Okay. That comes out of the operations fund.
050>> It will. I'm going to I'm paying my own airfare there. I'll cover all my meals and try to pick up some of those other costs. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, approval of payroll claims. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mrs. Cherry. Uh, we do have two payroll claims here this evening. We have our October 24th payroll of $839,62387 and we have our November 8th payroll claim of $744,948.95. [clears throat] Uh that's both to both total payroll claims for the month of 1,584,572.82. So I would ask for the board's approval of our payroll claims here for the month and happy to answer any questions. >> I need a motion to approve the payroll claims as presented. >> So moved.
051>> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Comments or questions? >> All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the on the agenda is old business, which we have none of. So, we will move along to new business. Consider approval of personnel recommendations. Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, as we look at the personnel report before you, I want to recommend approval of the report. And as we, uh, regretfully accept Chief Matt Olifan's resignation this evening, so he can move on to some other great career opportunities, almost as great as this one. Um, [laughter] we uh, we also want to recommend and welcome Officer Kim Kerenko, who is with us this evening as well, uh, as a position of interim chief here at
052the Danville Schools Police Department. And um there's [clears throat] several other things in the report tonight, but uh we do appreciate the work that Matt has done for us and appreciate Kim being able to step up and take on that leadership role in the interim basis. So with that, I'd recommend approval of the personnel report as submitted. >> All right. Motion to approve the personnel report as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Heel. Comments or questions? >> Uh question hearing that news, Dr. Schaefer. Um, do you plan on continuing to man the Danville Community Police Department, Danville Community School Corporation Police Department with four staff or do you have plans to make adjustments? What you're >> uh Yeah, based on budget again as we look
053forward into 2026. Uh, we're going to see how things go with three officers uh for a while. So, we're uh asking Officer Kerenko to uh take leadership here for a couple months so we can see how things are going. Um if we feel like we can reduce to three officers uh then we will hire internally uh for the chief position and uh work the schedule so that it works. I would tell you openly that we are seriously considering uh doing that um just to um help control our operations cost moving forward. >> So you think we're going to be okay meeting down one officer regarding school safety at this time in our society? I I I prefer four to be honest with you. U but we we have done it with one, we've done it
054with two, we've done it with three and now we're you know we've been working with four. Uh four is the best I think uh to be honest with you. Uh but I also know that we have limitations of what we can do as well. >> Have you made final decisions on the coordinative operations position? >> Uh we're we're getting by. I think we're we're hitting our stride a little bit with that. I'd say we are unlikely uh to refill that position. Um, we may need to pick up a little slack here and there on a couple of other positions, you know, to, you know, again, uh, make sure those duties fit well with everybody, but uh, right now I'd say we're about 95% we're not going to refill the, uh, coordinator position there. So, so
055given [clears throat] that information and I understand some of the budget constraints, but knowing what you're trying to do to work through addressing those budget constraints, um, still have a little concern about going less than four officers, knowing how strongly you wanted those four officers before >> and how good a job they're doing. So, I would ask you to really look at that and determine that we perhaps don't go a long time before we would be full staff of four officers given where public safety and school safety is these days in our society. >> Yep. I I agree. Um it's just hard decisions are have got to be made as we move into 26 and into 27. So these are things we are strongly considering and we'll look at both sides of that to see
056what we're able to do. But >> those are paid out of the operations fund as well. >> It is. It is. And unfortunately with the operations funds we've talked about, there are only so many places we can cut. You have a very limited amount of that operations fund you can cut without getting into personnel positions. Unfortunately, >> and again, it's not a lot of money, but I guess wondering about the the conference I just asked you about. It's not a lot, but isn't there some way that professional development can get done with what's offered through the Indiana State Superintendent Association, Indiana School Boards Association, and Indiana or Principles Association. >> Well, professional development is not something we've particularly cretailed yet. I mean, we're we're careful with it. We're, you know, we're trying to be frugal
057with it. And like I said, in my case, that's professional development. I go to about one or maybe two conferences a year like that. I've already cut out the one for next year. This one's out of the 2025 budget, and I'm also paying my airfare. So, you know, being a professional learning organization, we have to have professional development for us to improve and move forward. So, this is a unique opportunity. It is a unique conference and it's one of the best I've ever been to. So, I feel like that's something that is important to move forward with. Um, but we'll look at all opportunities where we can reasonably cut cost. Thank you. I look forward to evaluating that decision of yours. >> How do we plan to I guess the officers will rotate around around
058buildings throughout the day. >> That that's kind of the plan. >> Yeah. >> There'll be a there'll be a face there at some point in the day. >> Yes. And that we've had those conversations. We want to be seen in each building each day >> and that's a that's a plan for scheduling that officer Kerosenko will work on too and make sure that that fits well with uh with the group. >> Right. I'm not asking for exact times because I don't think that probably needs to be shared. All right. Um, just want to make sure there are there is a face there. Yes. >> All right. Any other questions? >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? >> That passes unanimously. All right. The next item on the agenda is the second preliminary determination hearing for
059the building projects. If you are interested in speaking at the hearing, please make sure you have signed the sign-in sheet at the back of the room, which should include your name and address. After a presentation by the administration and its adviserss, there will be an opportunity for the public to make comments about the building project. At the hearing, we will ask that each person limit their comments to three minutes and that the topic be limited to the proposed buildings project under consideration. The notice of preliminary determination hearing was published as legally required. The first preliminary determination hearing was held on held on September 8th, 2025. At this time, I'll ask that bond council explain the purpose of this hearing. >> Good evening. Under Indiana law, anytime the school corporation wants to issue over a certain
060capacity of a project, the school board has to hold two hearings. As the president said, we held our first hearing in September. This will be our second hearing tonight. The purpose of the hearing is truly to set the maximum amount and to set maximums in rate and Again, this at your September meeting, you were asked just to hold a hearing tonight. You will also be asked to consider resolutions. And this first hearing is in regards to the buildings project. >> All right. We will now hear from Mr. Herbert about the process of determining and communicating the building's project to the community and the need for the buildings project. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. [clears throat] Again, as uh Kristen had mentioned, this is our second hearing this evening. Uh we'll follow this up with a
061resolution shortly after the hearing. Uh but as a reminder to kind of look back on what the purpose of this project is for. Uh as we look and see that the growth that has been coming to the community uh and especially looking over the last two years and the ADM growth that we excuse me that we have seen uh we foresee that uh there is a potential here in the near future uh that we are going to have to look at building another building. uh perhaps uh at this point the the actual grade levels have not been established but uh most likely more towards an elementary level grade uh building. Uh what this is doing for us this evening is this just is giving us an opportunity uh to make sure that we have all
062the tools possible that we would need in order to be able to do this in the future uh without having to go to a referendum. Uh we know we've discussed uh at length uh some of the legislative changes that have occurred uh not only this current year but even in previous years prior to this uh with uh regards to requirements on rate uh from the debt service fund uh and we do have this opportunity that we were able to uh to take advantage of uh to make sure that we have just again another option once we move forward. Uh this is not locking us into doing anything. This is not the final step. Uh there are other many actually many more steps that will have to come uh that requires administrative work that would also
063require the board's approval uh before anything could be officially started from a project standpoint or even issuing additional debt uh from that point. So again, this is just to make sure that we maintain uh the ability uh to have something in the future uh that would allow us to uh improve and to increase the district without having to go to a referendum. Uh because as the law currently sits today, uh the way that it would be is that if we were not having if we didn't have this tool in our toolbox, referendum would be the only way that we could get another building built. So again, just trying to make sure that we have all the options available to us in the future uh when that day would arise that we need to pursue this.
064>> All right. Thank you. We will now hear from Stifel Nicholas and Company Incorporated, our underwriter about how the proposed building projects will be financed as well as information about the effect on the typical property taxpayer. >> Good evening. Thank you for having me. Great to see you all again. Corey is going to bring up my presentation has shares here and we love technology. >> Yes. Let's try again. We love it even better when it works. Let's close out. Start again. It is just spinning. So >> any suggestions to charge. No, it's working earlier. >> It's just It's just It's just spitting. It says all displays and it's just spitting for me. screen. >> Yeah, I think I think >> should see we've seen it, but it's good good to see it again. You've been
065working on your songs, Matt. Entertain us a little bit there. [laughter] >> You tell jokes. >> No. [laughter] I tell you what, this happens more. >> Do you want me to Dr. If you want me to talk through them now while they're trying to fix or you want to just >> what would what would the board like a couple minutes and see >> do you want to see his presentation? >> Are we going to see it like the next three times here? >> Are we going to see the same presentation for the next hearing? >> Um no I have two separate pages. Okay. >> Different numbers but same same for >> but they're both together. >> Try it now for you. It says it's not waiting on you anymore. >> I don't want to vote.
066Okay. >> Is there a way to just email us the >> I can let me uh see if we can just put it in board docs? >> I was going to say because I don't have it in my You might have to be done. You might have to just hit the refresh up there, but it should should come up for you. probably do a couple meetings ago. While you're waiting for that to come up, I have a question for you, Dr. Schaefer. >> Sure. >> At that September, which was I think our first hearing on this, I we you gave us a sample timeline. I requested a correct >> more formal timeline. You sent that to us. >> I appreciate that. And on that formal timeline though that you had sent me, it references that
067November 7th is the end of the day of a 30 period 30-day period in which application petition may be filed requesting that either project be placed on a referendum. And that date for that was November 17th to finish that 30-day window. Do we not need to wait that 30-day window? This this will extend that timeline. So that timeline has now been extended because we moved back to this date. So we'll have 30 days forward from now. >> From now >> correct. >> Thank you. >> So the dates listed on that timeline that you had sent me. Again, thank you for sending it to me. What's listed is the October 16th, 2025. Those are the publications of the public. But um this particular second hearing, where is that listed on that? >> The time table's been
068revised since the one that you received because >> what date was it revised? >> October 10, 2025. >> Is there a reason that wasn't updated and sent out, Dr. Schaefer? Uh, I mean, we just don't typically send out the timelines. I think we requested one before, but we certainly can provide that to you. That's that's not an issue. >> Asked for the timeline, and again, I thank you for sending me the timeline that you sent, but I guess having requested it if there wasn't updates to it. I thought that be kind of like a calendar. If a calendar gets updated, we'll get notified of the updates. >> Yeah, it it simply will push those timelines back from here 30 days uh forward. I did upload it into board docs. So if you refresh board docs
069>> be in 72 then >> with that >> will be in 7.2. >> Yes. Yeah. I put it in 7.2. >> Let me see. Let's try this. Maybe there we go. Okay. >> All right. >> There we go. >> Back on track. >> So, uh, in regards to the building project, these are the legal parameters that you will see in the resolution. Bonds 95 million. As a reminder, that's a maximum. any number up to that cannot go above it. Estimated professional cost $300,000 leaving 94.7 million available for hard and soft costs, the money going into the actual project. Estimated interest expense is listed at $80,165,18. Uh that's based on a 7% interest rate. Um, we put a lot of conservatism into the interest rate. Uh, given this may not be issued for who knows how
070long, uh, we need to stay very conservative. You're issuing these bonds today, uh, you're somewhere probably just under 4%. Uh, so if these bonds ultimately get issued, uh, at what we would hope to be a much lower interest rate, that number should come down substantially. So that 80 million is based off the full % max annual lease rental. That's the highest amount that you can pay in any one year. That's listed at 13 million. Uh $13 million on your current net assessed value comes up with a maximum tax rate impact of 95.95 for $100 of assessed value. Uh the estimated net increase uh that's the increase over what we expect that total rate to be is listed at 9.68. And then the last two pieces of information they have in there by statute is school
071corporations max annual payments as a percent of your net assessed value 1.01% and then the direct and overlapping debt. This is your debt plus all the other units debt that the taxpayer would see as a percent of your net assessed value. Uh that is 13.26%. Happy to answer questions if you want to do that now. So, >> if I've got one, if this was issued today or five years from now, let's say, yeah, >> we're in that time frame, >> we'll use four 3.99 interest rate in your expert opinion. What >> I know it says seven right now, but you said it's I'm just speculating here. What What impacts will this will we have enough debt falling off from other projects or is this going to raise property taxes? Um I don't know that I
072can answer that specifically because it is based on obviously the time you have debt rolling off over the course of the next couple years. That that is for sure. Uh in terms of your actual levy, uh part of that is going to depend on how the last uh high school project bonds are issued. But our hope is that in the future that you have enough debt rolling off, the timing of this uh will certainly be important, but that it would be layered on as other debt is falling off. Now, can it 100% be levy neutral at that time? There's just too many factors going on to answer that specifically, but obviously anything that we would do would be keeping that in mind and trying to make sure that the impact is least as possible on
073the taxpayer. We would be coming back to you charts and graphs with a lot more information prior to us issuing any bonds at that point so that you can make an informed decision. >> What's the direct and overlapping debt as a percent and what's that mean? >> That is all of your debt, all of the school corporations debt plus all of the debt of the other units. So when you get your tax bill, right, you're paying taxes for the library, for the city, for whatever. It's all of their debt as well divided by the net assessed value of the schooloration and that that >> one of the metrics that S&P looks at, they are the agency that rates uh your debt. We just went through that process within the last month actually just a couple
074weeks ago as one of the main metrics that they they look at part of what they do. So having heard you part of that comment was mentioned one of the impacts to answer his question was how we roll out the last part of the bonds for the high school project. I think that's on the >> docket tonight. >> That's correct. >> Dr. Schaefer hearing him say that knowing that that's on the docket tonight. Um, do you anticipate how the bonds are being rolled out for the last phases of the high school project in combination with this to have a impact on raising property taxes for the community? >> Yeah, that's that's why we hire the professionals to help us with that structuring out because you're going to issue the last issuance for the high school
075project is remaining roughly $39 million which will be issued out. That's something we plan forward for. And I know we're kind of asking to look into the crystal ball here as to that project, you know, if and when that comes to fruition, but a lot of that's going to depend on how quickly we we grow out enrollment wise, uh what interest rates do, uh how quickly the debt falls off, and how far. So, it's it' be a little bit of a guessing game for me to I would say if if if Matt's not able to tell you that, I'm not going to be able to tell you that with any assurance as to exactly what that's going to look like, >> but we know how the debt's going to fall off. >> So, It's a
076payment schedule, right? You can't pay ahead. >> Yeah. If I could just add to that a little bit. So, school corporation going back a few years ago, you had the the debt service rate at 89 cents, right? And that was kind of the target moving forward. You did bring it down in 24 and 25. All the modeling would have been done kind of staying tax rate neutral moving forward. So, you guys were experienced significant AV growth over the last five, six, seven years. SEA1 is going to flip that on its head. And so when we were structuring all of this debt, we were structuring it to hit the stated tax rate goals, right? And so we had certain estimated levies moving forward. Those estimated levies would have been increasing to hit that stated tax rate
077goal. The levy is going to go up from this current year. There's there's no way around that. The levies that we would have shown over the last two years are not going to change based on this high school project. Essentially, we're solving for the same levy that we have been solving for the last couple years. The tax rate 100% I want to say 100%. Based on people way smarter than me seeing the impact of SEA1, they are projecting your assessed value to go down. If we have our levy going up and our assessed value going down, the tax rate for sure is going to go up. And so I guess I want to just make clear that the the levies that we were estimating over the last couple years are not anticipated to increase above
078what we have been showing the public as those roll off. We would hope to put this debt on if that's the will of the board at that time to not increase levies. Now depending on how much is issued and when is issued could levies go up? Absolutely. But that will be the decision that the board makes in the future if these bonds are ultimately issued. >> So hearing that when do you believe that you would be bringing it before the board for the board to determine if that's their will? Again, there's some guesswork here. And I say the demographic study, that demographic study would tell me that short of additional housing additions being put in. And even when they're put in, there's a couple years of lag before you start to see kids from them,
079it it looks like that enrollment wise, we're okay out there about four or five years. In other words, we have enough space once we're built out here with our current project to sustain that growth for at least four or five years. Um because what we're seeing is we're seeing some growth sort of peak now. Uh we see it hold pretty steady this next year. It starts to come down a little bit. Uh and where we see that growth begin to slow first is at primary elementary. We see it slow next at intermediate middle school high school. So, middle school, high school growth still going to be pretty robust for the next three, four, five years. Um, and we see growth even out beyond that. It's just not at the rate we've seen it the last
080two years. We've been growing at five, six%, which is pretty crazy growth. Um, when that slows down to 1 or 2%, that's a lot more manageable. But again, what I'm seeing in that demographic report right now is once we get out there about five years, we're probably going to be using up most of our available space at like South Elementary in particular and at the middle school. will be most pressed at those two buildings, which is really what we anticipated um back, you know, back a few years ago, those two would max out first and looks like that's probably what's going to happen. So, at that point, it's it's, you know, sort of how, you know, how many kids you want to squeeze into a building. Um, now again, things can change in there. Um,
081again, demographic reports are projections u to some extent. Uh, we we believe they'll be pretty accurate, but again, if another housing addition goes in, can that shorten that time frame up a little bit? Yeah, it could. um or if things slow down more than than what we're foreseeing right now, it could, you know, extend it out there another year or two. So, I I would say we're just, you know, a lot of guess work, but um probably in that 5 to sevenyear range is my best guess. >> So, it sounds like we got a snow globe that's got a lot of snow moving in it, making it very difficult at this time to see the targets of to the answers the questions we're asking. Is that what you're saying? >> I would agree with that.
082Yes. I would love to be able to give you concrete answers here tonight. There's just too much going on is is not going to be fully implemented for the next six years. We have projections. We have no hard data to next year. >> You don't see you [clears throat] don't see the snow globe given any more clarity for a couple years. >> I think next year when we get the first set of real hard data of the impact, I think we will have better projections than we have right now. It's somewhat guesswork. We have a lot of people that are doing what I hope are accurate projections. Uh I'm not going to put my money behind them until I see the actual results next year, the first year of implementation. >> I think uh the
083point Matt made that we've talked about a little bit is we sort of talked about that teeter totter model and that fulcrum that point that is that's the levy and we know what that levy needs to look like for the next several years. Um, now after that, it's just a matter of what AB does to determine then what your rate's going to have to do to to make those payments. Again, those are things we've been planning forward on. Uh, that's nothing different than what we planned all along. Once we get out there in five to seven years, as more debt comes off, we see what rates do. We see how fast that need comes up for future board. Um, and then is determining, you know, what's that future board need to do? Because I you'll
084get to a point as a district, you'll get to a point where you have to have more space. Um and then you know you try to do that in the most economical way that you can. >> So carrying this and knowing that snow globe is not going to show any more clarity probably until perhaps next year. But also knowing that also on the docket tonight is the approval of the maintenance project um which has to do with again using that also depends on debt falling off. Correct. Um, [clears throat] how does that start to come into play in terms of when we have debt falling off and when we're again going to be able to see you guys bringing something before the board spending on that again as well? I mean, they kind of go
085hand in hand in my mind even though they're next one is listed separately, but >> yeah, they do. Um, I would say the maintenance projects again, those can be broken up. Uh I know we're looking at 25 million as the maximum for the maintenance project. Uh that will be broken up into probably several smaller geo bonds uh to kind of try to do the strategy that we've had over the last four years as much as we can moving forward with so many unknowns because again like I said we'll work with Seville uh to try to determine what those net assess values are going to do. uh we will you know because in the past where we've been trying to maintain that stable debt rate we've been able to do geo bonds for four and $5
086million and we'll be able to pay those back in a year typically is what we've done. um as the as the NAV continues to come down, which is what we're expecting through Senate Bill One, then that might force us to to be a little more conscious because we're not necessarily uh incurring debt to maintain that rate. We're going to be incurring debt to make sure that we are just surviving as a district again because we we're using the debt to offset the operational expenses like we have with our geo bonds. So it would be the same thing that we would do with these maintenance projects. Uh and I think we've discussed with the board here that it would be very clear and very specific projects that we would start looking at. Um whereas before uh
087we were trying to find uh the best use for those dollars to make sure that again we're doing improvements throughout the district to make sure that we're improving you know students learning abilities and improving their experiences. Whereas now it's probably going to be shifting more towards absolute. Okay, this is getting ready to break and so now we need to fix it. You know, one of the examples that we've used is the HVAC system here at the middle school. Uh we right now we do not have control over some of our HVAC system here at the middle school. Um just because it's such an old program. Uh so that's an upgrade that we're going to have to do. We know that here at the middle school, again, this building's almost 20 years old. with a 20-y
088old building, it's going to start coming with things that are going to start breaking down that we're going to have to improve and have to replace. Uh so it's working on things like that. Um so as you mentioned that and you for example, if you needed to take out a geo bond in 2027 or 2028, >> how that debt that you take on even though it's going to be paid off in a year, how does that impact the ability of the that five to sevenyear scope that Dr. mentioned in reference to when this may need to get off the ground. >> They're still going to go hand in hand, but again, there's it's the globe. There's so much unknown because we still won't know exactly what the net assessed value is doing at that point
089in time. You know, what we're seeing and what is being forecasted is that it is going to be lower. Uh it will inquire require a little bit higher of a levy. Uh it will also depend on how much we do take uh from both the maintenance side and both the the building side which is this project here as we phase that in to know what the impact is truly going to be. >> I think I I think to try to help answer that too. I think that's going to look a lot like what we've been doing because that the maintenance amount we're not going to take that all in one chunk. You're going to take it in small chunks. hopefully continue the model we've had, pay it back in a short timeline, put on the
090next one, just keep that rolling forward, which when you look at a histogram of those stacked debts, that's usually a pretty small layer in there. Uh, and it's something we've been accustomed to because that's something we've been doing. So, I don't think it looks a lot different. I think it just gives us another source to work from to help offset some of those operational costs. >> I have three things. Um, just to clarify, this is our last chance to issue this bond. Correct. Like we can't issue bonds in the future. >> Well, to clarify, we're not issuing the bonds yet. >> We're reserving the right to be able to vote as a board in the future to issue a bond. >> Correct. If the if if the board decides not to pursue this this evening,
091then our only opportunity to borrow any dollars moving forward would be a referendum. >> Okay. Yep. That's what I thought. And then So, that was kind of two out of my three. Um, if the board in the future decides they want to go ahead and use this bond that we're reserving the right to have or the ability to get, but they decide instead of building a new school, we want to add on to a school or remodel the school. Can it be used for that as well or is it only to build a new school? So, I believe the answer is yes, but I'm going to look at Kristen because she knows the answer. He described it as renovation improvements to facilities including the construction of additions and new school buildings site improvements purchase of
092equipment versus real estate technology is broader. >> So yes, if if the board decided we don't want to build a new building, we just want to expand the current ones that we have, then yes, we could do that. >> But future boards future on all of that. >> Correct. [clears throat] Any other questions for Matt? >> All right. Thank you, Matt. We will now open the public hearing portion of this meeting. Please remember, if you'd like to speak, the sign-in sheet is located at the back of the room, which is actually a lie. It's up here on my desk. Um, if you would like to speak, step to the podium, state your name, address. As mentioned earlier, you have three minutes to speak on this topic of the building project in the future. Is there
093anyone interested in speaking? I see no one stepping to the podium, so we will move this along. I want to thank all who participated in the hearing. We appreciate your time and interest in the building projects and the future of our community. Please note, this is the first step or the second step in the legal process. The board will continue to work with administration and its professionals to look for efficiencies to conserve tax dollars while meeting our educational needs. The next item on the agenda is 7.3 which is consider approval to adopt the preliminary determination determination resolution for the project the building project. Kristen, could you please summarize the preliminary determination determination resolution for the building projects? As we talked about with the hearing, this resolution mirrors the hearing. This resolution sets forth the maximum
094of the building's project. >> The preliminary determination is that me? Okay, now we go. All right. Could I have a motion to adopt the preliminary determination determination resolution buildings project? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Any more comments or questions? >> I've got one question. If five [clears throat] years down the road something's going on different down at the state house, new laws, can you totally scrap this plan and start over? whatever may be available at that point. >> Yes, we we can totally scrap this. We do not have to do that if the law doesn't change enough that says so like right now if we don't do this we have to do a referendum unless the law changes that removes that language. If we
095stop this process at any point in time right now we cannot restart it. >> Right. But but if the laws do change and something else is available that would be better for the district, we do not have to touch this. >> So next summer if something's better or what it would be two years, right? Because it's another >> Yeah, this this is at current time this is a kind of an indefinite approval. Um >> I just want to make sure you if if something better comes along >> if something better comes along, we do not we can totally scrap this entire thing. >> It does it doesn't compel you to go this this way. >> Okay. I just want to make sure I was thinking right. >> So, hearing you answer that question, Dr. Schaefer,
096why is it that we need to do this step and knowing how much snow is thrown around in the snow globe right now that prevents seeing forward? Why does this step need to be done now? Why can't wait until somewhere in 26 when things perhaps give a little more clarity in the snow globe? Yeah and sea1 provide an opportunity to do these types of things here but there's a timeline in which to do that so [clears throat] we have to do the preliminary portions of that to complete that timeline then it can set it can it can set and wait until the timing and opportunity is right the need is there uh to do that that next set of of projects and you were going to say in terms of those dates >> same the
097grandfathering >> so we I know we grandfather in. I guess I'm [clears throat] kind of wondering. >> You can only get grandfathered in if you do this before the end of this year, >> before the end of this calendar. >> Any other questions for Kristen? >> All right. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Nay. All right. That would be three yeses and two nos. >> Mr. Bryant, Mr. Hempil were both a no. Are you good, Miss Penny? >> Okay. >> All right. The next item on the agenda 7.4. Consider approval of reimbursement resolution for the building project. Christian, could you please summarize the reimbursement resolution for the building's project? The reimbursement resolution is required by federal tax law. If and when the school corporation decides to move on any portion of the building's project,
098um the school could, as with other bond issues, pay from operations under rainy day fund and then be reimbursed. This reimbursement resolution sets the date by which you can be reimbursed. All right. Can I have a motion to adopt the reimbursement resolution buildings project as presented? So move. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. [clears throat] Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Hel. Any comments or questions? >> All in favor? I. Any opposed? >> Same 3 to2 vote. All right. The next item on the agenda is the second Preliminary termination hearing for the maintenance project. I don't know. All right. If you're interested in speaking at the hearing, please make sure you have signed the sign-in sheet at the back of the room, which should include your name and address as presented by the administration and
099its adviserss. There will be an opportunity for the public to make comments about the maintenance [clears throat] project. At the hearing, we'll ask that each person limit their comments to three minutes and the topic be limited to the proposed maintenance project under construction. The notice of preliminary determination hearing was published as legally required. The preliminary the first preliminary determination hearing was held on September 8th, 2025. At this time, I will ask that bond council explain the purpose of this hearing. Kristen, >> as with the buildings project, this is the same hearing that's required because this project is separate and distinct from the buildings project and again over those thresholds that require school boards to hold two hearings for a project. Again, the hearing tonight and the resolutions you'll be asked to consider consider the maximum
100amounts of this maintenance project. We will now hear from Mr. Mr. Herbert about the process of determining and communicating the maintenance project to the community and the need for the maintenance project. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mrs. Cherry. Uh again, very similar to the building project. Uh this is giving us the opportunity to be able to have this tool in our toolbox as we move forward. Uh this is for the maintenance project uh which has the maximum issuance of 25 million. As we stated before that we would ne we would not take that out at one time. Uh this would be broken out over time uh that we would be bringing back to the board for your approval. And then this would be done in geo bonds or general obligation bonds uh that would help
101us to any type of maintenance that we might have throughout the district. Uh which it would include everything that we have done in the past uh school buses. It would could include Chromebooks. It could include uh again maintenance and things that we needed on our buildings uh and things like that. So again, very similar to the first one, just uh for different purposes. Whereas the first one would be a lease bond that's tied to the building, this one would be general obligation bonds that would just be tied to maintenance projects. >> We will now hear from Steeple Nicholas & Company Incorporated, our underwriter, about how the proposed maintenance project will be financed, as well as information about the effect on the typical property taxpayer. There we go. >> Okay. So, uh same deal here with
102the maintenance project. Uh maximum part amount of the bonds. Let's set 25 million upfront professional fees at 300,000 leaving the 24.7 available for the hard and soft costs. Uh estimated interest expense again is is hopefully conservatively high. listed at 21,90,67 based on a 7% interest rate again as was the building project. Max annual lease rental is listed at 5 million. Again, that's the highest payment you can make in any one year. That $5 million payment equates to a 36.9 maximum tax rate impact. Again, that's just based on that formula. We would expect the net increase in the total tax rate to be closer to 9.68. cents. Uh we've already talked about schools max annual payments as a percent of net assess values 1.01% and then the direct and overap is 13.26%. I know I went
103through that quick but happy question. >> How do they set the max payment you can make? Is that based on the size of the the loan? >> Uh no. So you have full authority to set that max. >> You can set that ourselves. Okay. Does that setting that max maximum annual lease rental payment back does that have any effect on what interest rate you might be charged? >> Um, so it would in so far as it would allow you to pay off these bonds quicker. So say for instance you want to do a $2 million deal in a few years. If you wanted to pay that back in one year, then historically a one-year interest rate is better than a fiveyear or a 10 year or 15 year interest rate. Right now, that's not the
104case because short-term rates are higher, but we expect that to change over the course of the next couple years. So, yeah, the quicker you can pay some something back, you should get a lower interest rate and you have a lower interest period of time, so interest come down significantly. Yes, >> that's knowing that that's the maximum payment, Mr. Herbert, and knowing that out of that 25 million, how much we can take out in a particular geo bond depends on how much debt has fallen off. >> Correct. >> Um, that our max payment is the 5 million. Do you anticipate keeping geo bonds as you take them out under that max so that we can make sure that we do get them paid off in a year and not have to incure interest rates for anything
105that's above the five million that we can't pay off? >> Yeah, like I said, you know, for for these projects, these are going to be very specific to the current needs that we would have. Uh so sitting here with with the snow globe I would guess it's going to be a1 to2 million issuance. Uh we are capped and limited on how much we can issue. Uh but I know that's been roughly around 6 million here recently but I don't foresee us needing that much at a one time. Uh what I would ideally like to do is have this spread out so that maybe it's every other year uh that we are doing an issuance uh and then making sure that it's paid back either within a year or twoear time frame to again reduce the
106cost for the interest expense to try to keep that as low as possible. So, if I understood what you just said, we're currently we could take out if this gets approved, we could take out right now >> a $3 million geo bond in 2026. >> I would say without doing the calculations, I feel like confident saying yes, that's true. >> Million. >> Yeah, >> we have some debt right now that's falling off. >> Right. Correct. And so hearing that said and also thinking about prior conversations and also thinking about what we've been talking about in terms of addressing issues with the operations fund, when do you see the first geo bond being taken out of this approval here tonight? >> Uh I would think at this point we should be able to get to at
107least 27. Uh we do still have a geo bond, actually two geo bonds that we have a little bit of dollars left over um from what those projects were kind of assigned to that we are going to be using for now through next year. Uh so I feel confident that we can get through 26 and it would probably be 27 before we need to start looking at uh issuing any more bonds at that point. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions for Matt? No, no, I'm good. Okay. >> All right. Thanks, Matt. >> We will now open the public hearing portion of this meeting. Remember, if you'd like to speak, please sign the sign-in sheet, which I have up here at my desk. As I mentioned earlier, we ask that you state your name and
108address and limit your comments to the proposed project and financing. Keep any comments to three minutes and avoid being repetitive if possible. Is there anyone in the room who would like to step forward to speak? Seeing as no one is stepping to the podium, I want to thank everyone who's participated in this hearing. We appreciate your time and interest in the maintenance project and the future of our community. Please note that this is the second step in the legal process. The board will continue to work with the administration and its professionals to look for efficiencies to conserve tax dollars while meeting our educational needs. The next item on the agenda is consider approval to adopt the preliminary determination determination resolution for the maintenance project. Kristen, could you please summarize the preliminary determination resolution for the
109maintenance project? >> Yes, as we discussed, we held the hearing with the max parameters. This is the resolution that would set those max parameters for the maintenance project. >> Does anybody have any questions for Kristen? >> Okay. All right. Can I have a motion to adopt the preliminary determination res resolution for the maintenance project? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Hempil. >> One more chance for comments or questions. >> All in favor? >> That passes unanimously. The next item on the agenda, consider approval of the reimbursement resolution for the maintenance project. Kristen, could you please ize the reimbursement resolution for the maintenance project. >> As I described with the buildings project, this is required under federal tax law and again would allow the school corporation to
110reimburse itself out of operations or rainy day from proceeds when and if those bonds are issued. >> Can I have a motion to adopt the reimbursement resolution for the maintenance project? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Comments or questions? All in favor? I. That passes unanimously. All right. Thank you everyone. The next item on the agenda is consider resolution approving 10th and final supplement to the master continuing disclosure undertaking the final high school bond issuance. Mr. Herbert, that was a mouthful. >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Cherry. Uh before you we do have a resolution that would approve the 10th supplement to our master continuing disclosure. Uh this is the disclosure that we use to issue the bonds for the high school project. Uh we have
111issued uh so far to date two separate issues. Uh this would be the final issue for the uh high school project. Uh once we have this issued then these would be the final funds that we will use to complete the high school project. Uh as we saw earlier today we're over halfway through that project. Uh but this is the dollars that will get us through completion and through the end of that project. Uh so this before you this evening, we do have this resolution that we need to approve. Uh and that will allow us to be able to then issue the bonds uh here towards the end of the month uh to be able to have the dollars to complete the high school project. Uh so I would ask for the board's approval of this
112resolution and happy to answer any questions. >> I have a question. I need a motion to approve the resolution approving the 10th supplement to the master continuing disclosure undertaking, also known as the final high school bond issuance. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Hel. Comments or questions? >> I have a question. If Nick is able to come in under budget as he hopes, do we automatically use the rest of the money towards alternates or is there a possibility of saying like we're not going to move forward with any alternates and somehow we don't use these funds that we're taking. >> Uh so what funds we do have, we are restricted on what we can use them for. Uh so typically they would be used for the
113alternates to try to complete uh additional work that we did not think we were going to be able to get done. Uh so yes, if Nick does come in under budget, that's what we would use those dollars for. >> And only at the high school? >> Uh it could be. We've tied this into the high school to south. Uh I believe, yeah, north. Um this was a pretty vague uh because it was part of the master campus plan. Um we would not use it on I don't know if we listed administrative building. So it would be used at the high school. Uh we might have the ability to use it at a couple of other buildings, but for the most part it would be used at the high school. >> When will you when do
114we think we'll see when will we know if there's going to be any leftover money? >> I guess. >> Yeah. I mean it's going to be closer into mid 27. >> So it be right at the end. So yeah, you would just add >> add on then if you wanted something to do. >> Correct. Yeah. >> If we had leftover. Okay. >> Yes. And if you're looking at issuing these at the end of the month, there's an interest rate tied to this. What's the projection you're going to get on interest rate here? >> Uh, I will >> look at Matt for that one. >> We've sold a bunch of bond issues over the last few weeks. It's been anywhere from a 3.6 to 3.9 plus or minus. A lot of stuff is going on, so
115I don't want to guarantee that over the next couple weeks. Um, but rates have have come down the first first eight months of the year we were selling at four and a quarter. Uh we have seen rates come down about a half% over the last couple months as the Fed has started to lower those interest rates. Um so knock on wood would be somewhere around 3 and 3/4 should be under 14%. you're considering this timing is better than waiting until after the first of the year and see if those that projection gets a little better on lower interest rates yet or >> Yeah, I mean so there's some other reasons going into why we're going to issue these bonds now. For number one, uh if we issue them at the beginning of the year, there's
116a lot longer period from the time that we receive the dollars and issue the bonds until we have to make our first payment. And so therefore, there's more interest that's capitalized there that we would have to pay. uh if we do it now, we get that structured into our payments for next year and we can start paying it off quicker uh versus letting it sit there and just build up interest. So really that's part of the timing issue. Um and like Matt said, we just we don't know. Rates could go up next year. So uh with rates being where they are right now, that's probably going to be one of the better rates that we've got on our debt uh throughout we've got some debt that's a little bit over 4%. So, if we can
117get something in the 3% range, that's going to be really good for the district. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments or questions? >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. All right. Thank you, Matt and Kristen, for joining us this evening. We appreciate it. Thanks. Next item on the agenda, public hearing of the proposed 2025 2026 tenative agreement between DTA and DCSC. Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, this time is provided for patrons to speak uh specifically in regard to the proposed tenative agreement uh between the Danville Local Teachers Association and the Danville Community School Corporation. Uh this is a one-year teacher contract proposal and was discussed by the school board during the special public meeting that we held on October 27th, 2025. The tenative agreement has been posted on
118the school district website and it provides for an average teacher salary increase of 1.7% uh plus the cost of related wage benefits. So we would [clears throat] open up the floor to those that may want to speak in regard to the 2025 2026 tenative agreement. We'll open the public hearing for the tenative agreement. If anyone would like to step forward, please state your name, address. Seeing as no one is rising from their seats. We will close the public hearing on the tenative agreement and move to the next item on the agenda. Consider approval the 2025 2026 tenative agreement between DTA and DCSC. Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you. Uh yeah, the new contract uh features a change to the compensation model which will feature a salary schedule in lie of the the point based model uh
119previously held. Uh each teacher who received an effective or highly effective rating will receive a $795 base increase. Additionally, teachers who have earned their early literacy endorsement will receive an additional $200 on the base and each teacher on the schedule will then be moved to the next step on the schedule. So they'll get those increases and then move up to the next uh next available step on the schedule. So total compensation increase uh per teacher will range from $500. That's only for one teacher who was hired at the old base. We have to move them to the new base which will be um 525 from the previous 52,000. Um and then after that the increases will range between $795 and $2,500 total salary increase. uh that represents an average increase of 1.7% plus the cost
120of wage related benefits. And then the new range for base teacher pay will begin at $52,500 and end at $96,000 uh for the standard teacher contract. So I recommend approval and I do want to thank uh the DTA leadership uh for the amicable discussions we had and productive discussions uh throughout the bargaining process. >> All right. A motion to approve the 2025 2026 tentative agreement between DTA and DCSC as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Second. Thank you, Mr. Himsil. Comments or questions? >> I have a question in reference to the average 1.7%. Do you have a breakdown of how many teachers How many teachers do we have? >> Uh what do you have from general fund? 160. >> Yeah, >> about 160. >> How many? about 160. >> So you have
121a breakdown of that 160. How many fall into above two 2% or above and 2% or less than 2%. >> Yeah, I don't know if you have that at your fingertips or not. >> Uh give me a second. >> And and some of that's going to depend and that's part of what we have to do for herb is is identify the highest and the lowest increases. That's part of the requirement from herb. So, in doing that with a with a column model like we have now, uh we're going to place everybody, but there are a handful of people who just got their masters, so they're going to slide over. So, those little bit larger increases like 2500, that's probably going to belong to somebody who just got their masters. They went on the schedule and
122now they're moved over. Um because the other the people who've had masters, they got placed on the the masters. >> So, once you put them in there though, you still should be able to take out that and say this person do the calculation this person ended above it this person ended below it >> correct correct >> should end up with a number of how many teachers were 2% above versus below 2% >> right but I I >> yeah so if we look at all teachers we said the 160 that's who are just paid out of the education fund if you look at all teachers we have a total of 170 because we do have some that are paid out of title dollars and some that are paid out of special education uh so those teachers
123who would be above Above the 1.7% would be 74 of the 170. >> Above would be how many? >> Above would be 74. >> So >> less than half. >> Okay. And then my other question was at the previous hearing last month, I'd asked about the new monies and you updated sent that sheet in your weekly update, Dr. Schaefer. Um looking at what you presented this year for the new monies and how you got to the amount of money that was available to bargain with teachers. Um the layout of that looks different than it has the last two years. Um and it actually seems to change as I've asked about since I've been on the board, but each year when I asked for that, the the layout of that sheet you give me, some things
124are in there and some things aren't. Um what accounts for the differences of that explanation between years? >> Yeah, it's simply how you how you look at it. There's different ways to lay it out. Um, you had asked specifically about, you know, what were the the total new dollars and then how did you get to the the bargainable amount and it it's a little bit complex to walk through that, but essentially, you know, we're funded on a per student basis, x amount of dollars uh between your foundation funding and your complexity funding on top of that. So, you know, roughly $8,000 a student uh for each of our new students. So when you do that math, that's about 1.8 million. But what the legislature did different this year, all of our textbook reimbursement dollars that
125we used to get separately, they added that in. That's part of that cost and we can only spend that on textbooks. So we have to back that out and that number is is $443,000. So that's got to come off the top. Um so after that as we bargain now we look at total teacher costs from last year compared to this next year and that's that's the the fairest and most accurate way to do it is say what are those actual cost. So by the time we were bargaining you know we're partway into the year we're seeing actual payrolls come through from the new teachers we've added plus all of our returning people. So we get a really accurate idea as you extrapolate that out over 26 pays what that cost is and you have to
126look at not just the cost of the new teachers but you've got ECA cost we have transitional teachers in there so that those cost are more um so so that was about a million one that came out of that remaining balance. Um and then after that we also did have transfer to consider for 2026 transfer from ed to ops. So we back that number out and that actually leaves you with a deficit. Okay, which is not where we want to be. So what we have done, we did earlier on is we reduced budget in many of our non-eing areas within the educational fund. So that provided enough relief uh to the tune of about $944,000 that put us back into the the black uh of about $470 net net dollars remaining. And then from that,
127we had a little bit of deficit from our our pattern that we've talked about the last couple of years. Uh we made up that deficit. So we're out of deficit finance for the for the long haul. We knew that. As I say, it's kind of like landing the plane. This is the year the plane landed because we had about $250,000 remaining in that annual deficit to make up. So we [clears throat] took that out of that remaining $470,000, which left us uh about $220,000 then for bargaining. So the teachers essentially got all that money. Uh part of that was in new ECA costs. We we added a few positions. Um we had to pay the load which is the the first benefits that teachers get upon retirement and that left us about $169,000 that we
128directly put into the salary schedule. So when you look at all dollars that teachers receive, you've got all of that plus all your new teachers, all your other teacher costs. So, it's actually a large percentage of the total, but yeah, getting down to it and time you pay all those costs out of there, it looks like a very small number, but you have to remember a lot of those other things that were bigger numbers also went to our teachers. >> Okay. So hearing that and thinking about some of what I've been hearing in the news lately and I think maybe my original inquiry may get directed a little bit differently of our new monies. Do you have an idea of what percentage of that new monies is actually going into the classrooms whether the teacher
129pays or out of what you said you got to take out the curriculum things and so forth. Is that part of what some of the people down at state house are mentioning when they say that they want to see more monies going into the classroom? >> Yeah, that's um depends on how you it's going to depend on how you measure that. So I'll get an example. Money that we would pay to an instructional assistant who's actively working in the classroom directly with kids. Is that is that money in the classroom? Absolutely. Is it being paid to a teacher? No, it's not. So it's one it's how you measure. Let me give you another example. We have about four students right now who are in residential placement. Okay. Our annual cost because we have to pay
130their educational costs, all their residential cost, everything. >> We give you tell me what that is. >> We would have someone with special needs to a point. They they cannot go to school and and live here locally. They have to be in a special 24-hour day, 365 day a week placement. Um and we have >> They live there. Okay. >> And and everything is provided for them by that institution wherever it may be. >> Okay. >> We have >> That's their classroom. That's their living quarters. That's their food. That that's everything as well as very specialized care. Um so we have to pay those costs. Now what we've been successful doing is you can apply to the state for what's called an excess grant to help get some of that reimburseed back. We've been very
131successful at that. Mrs. Lacy's done a tremendous job of applying for and getting those reimbursement grants. We still have to pay all that upfront. And that this last year, everybody's sitting down, was about $760,000. That's that's more than it's more than your transfer. And we get a good chunk of that back, but we have to pay all that appropriation is all paid up front. So when it comes back to us, it just lands back in the cash balance, which we actually we talked about that we use some of that for our future transfer because it's sort of onetime money by the time it comes back. Not one penny of that gets counted towards our teacher cost because the the legislation hasn't caught up with that, saying, "Yeah, that's an allowable expense to count towards your
132teacher expenditures." Now, I agree. When you're providing 24-hour service, that's not all educational expense. Which begs the question, if a student's in class roughly eight hours a day, why do public schools get required to pay the other 16 hours a day for all the other care? It's because nobody else pays it. That's why. Um, >> so there's not an agreed upon calculation of for every school corporation when the state gives them new monies. >> Correct. >> Of how how you calculate >> how much of that new monies is actually ended up in a classroom. >> Correct. Um so and you'll see and you [snorts] you maybe you see ISBA publications and things that teacher increases we've been seeing here over the last month or two very widely. We have schools here locally that that are
133not able to give a base increase. Uh they're just giving stipen increases and that's what they can do. And we've seen other schools that are giving, you know, a decent [clears throat] on a percentage basis a a fairly, you know, large amount. Those are few and far between, but we're seeing quite a discrepancy this year and what schools are able to do. And a lot of it is because how curricular materials are hitting schools and how SEA1 is hitting local operating funds. That's part of it as well. Um, and again, um, you know, just like I mentioned with, uh, paying some of those other costs. Not all schools run into that. They may not have those types of uh other expenses to to to make. So, >> thank you. >> Any other comments or questions?
134>> All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? >> That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, consider approval of the 2025 2026 classified staff wage increases. Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you. Um and again in the packet is the recommendation and the financial breakdown uh for the classified support staff wage increase. Um the recommendation is for a 1.6 increase. Now that is a a straight percentage. That's not an average. that is a 1.6 increase for each uh qualified individual. Um I do recommend approval. Um and again, as as we talked about a little bit, but um I know we're later in the bargaining period here, but approval at this time would allow us to get back pay calculated and raises to begin as early as the I think it's a November 21st payroll. Uh that raise
135will be retroactive back to July 1st, 2025 for our support staff who again who are qualified who are here working. So would recommend a 1.6% increase for our classified support staff group. >> All right. I need a motion to approve the 2025 2026 classified staff wage increases as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Comments or questions? All in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, consider approval of administrator salary increases for 2025 2026. Dr. Schaer. >> Thank you. And talo is a recommendation and financial breakdown for the administrative employees recommendation. Uh this increase is is based on the teacher increase and it would result in an average increase of 1.5%. And now that's classified and certified administrators uh together.
136Um the increase is it's a flat per day increase based upon the average teacher per day increase. So the pdium is then multiplied what that you know per day increase is multiplied by the length of the respective administrative contract that therefore it accounts for more than 185 days as is those administrative contracts are. Um again we we've talked about this a little bit. Um, I mentioned this last year as we got to this point. Um, teacher the teacher increases have to be given in flat amounts. Uh, with your classified support staff, you can give those in percentage amounts. Now, it used to be teacher increases were always given in percentage increases. So, you saw uh those teacher schedules, you know, go like this. And we've talked about compression over time with teachers. That's because you're
137constantly having to give flat amounts which is a higher percentage at the bottom and a lower percentage at the top. So it naturally compresses the teacher scale. Uh now it's on a much lesser scale because you have fewer people. But as we give flat increases to administrators over time, we've kind of seen the same thing and it's again much smaller scale. We've seen that happen a little bit. Um and we're not trying to increase that. Uh what we're trying to do is kind of maintain it. And the trouble is if you give a a percentage increase every year, it starts doing this. And if you give a flat increase every year, it starts doing this. And I'd mentioned this last year, I believe, but to me it kind of makes sense to maybe alternate a
138little bit and try to just maintain where you're at. One year you give a percent increase, it might grow very slightly, and the next year you give a flat and it may shrink very slightly. So that's why we've seen us go from a flat to last year doing a percent to this year doing a flat. And I might anticipate a percent next year just to kind of keep that margin there and not not grow it, not shrink it. Um just try to maintain that. And that's true not only uh as we look at our highest and lowest paid administrators, but also when you look at the the highest paid teacher, particularly on a predium basis compared to your lowest paid administrator on a PDM basis, there's a there's extra obligations and responsibility that go with
139those administrative positions. So you want to keep a little bit of a little bit of room there to recognize that. So that that's the nature and that's why we kind of toggled back and forth. So hearing you say that >> let's can we let's do a motion and then we'll right need a motion to approve administrator salary increases for 2025 to 2026. >> So moved. >> Thank you Mr. Bryant. Second. Second. >> Thank you Mr. Hel. Comments or questions? So hear in your explanation there you do have in one instance you have a staff member in there that's administrator that started July 1st with a contract and that contract was approved for the 25 26 school year and I think the 26 27 school year um and they're on the list to get a raise
140this fall. How do you support that decision? >> Yeah, and that's and that's I would say that's not new. I mean, that's that's t and it's really just to try to keep where we where we place people to try to keep them. And we do the same thing with teachers as they come in. Uh we place our teachers where they're at compared to their their peers with, you know, whatever their uh relative um experience and degree levels are. So when you you move everybody else, we try to move those new teachers with them so they kind of stay positioned in the same spot. That's why it be the same reason for the administrators. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments or questions? >> All right. All in favor? >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next
141[clears throat] item on the agenda, recognition of state tuition support letter, Dr. Schaefer. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry, just clicking through here. Um, attaching your packet uh is the letter from the Indiana Department of Education, Office of Finance. Um, that letter which we we publicly acknowledge and that is our duty to publicly acknowledge tonight uh serves as a notice that the form nine financial information now again form nine is not department of education. Form 9 is determined by state board of accounts when you think of it that way. Um that indicate that form indicates that less than 62% of applicable state tuition support was spent on teacher compensation during fiscal year 25. While we acknowledge that information as it's presented falls short of the 62% rule, the fact is that Danville schools actually did
142spend more than the required applicable tuition support on teacher compensation at a rate we can verify of 62.4% for fiscal year 2025. So even though the form nine the way those are categorized doesn't indicate that we actually did spend the required share or more 62.4% uh for the fiscal year. So the difference between the rate and the rate based on the information from form 9. What the difference is uh we had a couple of coding errors that were detected after the form 9 was filed. So that resulted in a few teacher expenditures that were rightful expenditures that should be counted towards that 62% teacher expenditures but they didn't get counted didn't get captured as such on the form nine which made our uh expenditures appear to be less than they actually were. Um so and
143and those were in we have some teachers who want to transition to teaching permits. Um that coding number was off. We caught it later. So we we moved that recategorized and got those in the right category. We had a few ECAs uh some of our ECA payments were in a different group. Uh we had to move those. Um and then and it's a really odd thing, but the the dollars we pay towards Wayne Township for special education services, for career and technical education services, uh those do count towards the teacher expenditure, at least some of those do. And u that's one that didn't get captured right away either. So between those three, there was about a 2% difference in what we actually spent, what it looked like we spent on the 49. So our duty
144is to publicly acknowledge we got the letter, we post it on our website. We can put a short explanation just as I've explained here of why that is, what that is, and and that's that's it. That's what it comes down to. [clears throat] >> So in your update, you'd indicated that they kind of questioned this last year and you had to make an adjustment last year. Yes, I don't remember hearing about that in any until this recent update from you. >> Right. >> So, because last year there was not a requirement that this requirement if you miss it to bring it to, you know, public acknowledgement that was not in the law last year. Um, so, and again, we've never I I checked with our treasurer um this afternoon. I said, you know, I I
145have never I said I want to make sure she hadn't either and I just missed it. We've never received like a a protocol for because these laws keep changing. I mean u in 2021 you had a 45% rule. Last year became a 62% rule and then it became sort of publicly acknowledgeable this year. Next year it goes to 65%. And they keep changing the categories to change the codes. um we've never received from office of finance or anybody else that we know of at least that we're aware of a breakdown of okay here's a process you have to follow exactly and here are the timelines for that so I went back and looked and I I provided those to you as well last year in October we had so we caught a couple codes that
146were off and we acknowledged that we sent that information to the office of finance and they're like okay you'll just need to indicate it out on your form 9 in January that's all there was to it and we've never received anything that is really going to be different than that this year. So, we got a we got an informal email in August at the end of August that [clears throat] said, well, you know, you can change your form nine. Well, you don't go change form 9 without authorization from the state board of accounts to do that. Otherwise, you get an accounting issue. Um, so we're thinking we we don't need to change our form 9. We didn't change our form 9 last year. Why would we do that? We're not going to risk that on
147an audit. So, and the letter said we would get notification in September. Well, we never got any notification in September. So then in October, we get like a final notice that, hey, here's your percentage. So we're like, I guess we didn't understand that process, but the process was never really laid out for us to understand. So that was a source of a little bit of our frustration. I think we understand a little better now. Um, but at the same time, we did make the expenditures. Uh, I will tell you next year at 65% because of some of the things we've talked about tonight that will be very difficult for us as a district to to meet that number. Um, I guess that was going to be my question if you know already because it sounds
148like you know ahead of time what the percentage is going to be set at. Um, >> yeah, that's set in statute. >> That's set in statute. Do you know what, six months before start of the calendar year quarter? But it just seems like we've cut that margin off close at point4% to meet that as opposed to trying to find a way within the Danville difference to come in a percent and a half above it. >> And this is by the state asking us to do this. This is kind of the version of asking us to stand on the tail out at the entrance and pound on the drum saying we apologize for our mistake. >> Yeah, it's kind of asking us to squeeze blood out of a turnup when they you know they keep pushing
149those up. But when you look at state funding to schools over the last several years, it has not kept pace with the inflation. So inflation, not only is the requirement going up, but the inflationary pressures are eroding uh away at what we're actually receiving yeartoear. So it's harder and harder without [clears throat] anything else changing. It's harder and harder to make those ends meet, let alone increase what you're doing. And then as SEA one rolled out, now there's even a greater need to help support your operations fund, which again has very few funable dollars there. Um so and then as I pointed out when you have other expenditures uh such as the the residential placement dollars again those are dollars that you know we're happy to spend those happy to support the kids and families
150but it is a lot of dollars that are going out that you're not able to spend on other things um be it education or operations and they're dollars that we get zero credit and that was equivalent to 3%. We would have been at 65% this year if we could count those dollars, but we can't count those dollars. And why? We don't know. And I understand they might not want us to count 100% because you're paying all the residential cost on top of the educational cost. But then why are we needing to pay the residential cost is schools. And it's not anything unique to Danville. I [clears throat] mean, that's >> But the difficulty meeting the 65 next year, isn't that part of the reason that we've been asking or discussing trying to address what's being
151done and what we're spending in the operations fun? And that's I guess why I didn't vote this year for the 15% transfer from ED to ops is because again I think we need to stay away from getting close to that 15% as much as we can and working making that effort and those challenges to get there >> which would allow us to maybe try to address and in the data bill difference meet the state of the letter to the law by more than 410 of a percent. That's just my thoughts on that. >> Sure. >> What's the penalty if we don't meet it next year? Same as this year. You have to post and acknowledge it. >> Any idea how many um school corporations across the state don't meet that? I mean, I know there
152are some that don't meet that. >> Yeah, I I don't 62. >> There's actually I think in one of the ISBA daily updates here in the last week, I think there was a analysis that they did. I think that then >> in the last week >> within the last week >> okay >> within the last seven 10 days. >> Okay. >> I never seen it but >> the number that they reported does not stand out in my mind. >> Okay. >> Any other questions on this agenda item? All right. Moving right along. The next item on the agenda, consider approval of gift donations to DCSC. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mrs. Cherry. uh before you this evening. We do recommend approval of the donation of a scissor lift. Uh this is [clears throat] for our
153band program at the high school. Uh we did have a donor who is working with a local equipment company uh to be able to provide this for our band. Uh so they can use it when they are outside. Uh our director uses this to kind of oversee the movement and uh can use it for different things there. Uh it has been fully serviced and it is ready to go. uh anticipated average cost of this will be roughly about $400 per year just to do the maintenance and the service of it. Uh but for our cost, it's actually only [clears throat] $1 and that's just so that the uh equipment company can use that to kind of tie it to their record so that they can make sure they track it through. Uh so we are
154very appreciative of that donation uh from MH Equipment and would ask for the board's approval of this donation. I need a motion to approve the gifts donations to DCSC as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Any comments or questions? >> I think it's very nice for the company to do this. Is there any room on that lift that we could stencil? Um I don't think it's necessarily donated by, but thank you. So that anytime that lift is moved around, it's it's known kind of. >> Yeah, we can definitely check on that. some sort of recognition on it would be >> kind of nice. I mean, it's >> nice that they've done that. >> I did I did do a little rough research on the
155value and it's probably a $4 to $8,000 value gift which is very gener. I agree. It's very very nice. >> Again, you just to me it's stencled in white paint on them. >> But if there's room to do it, >> sure. Yeah, we can definitely check into that. >> Any other comments or questions? >> All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, consider approval of surplus obsolete equipment. Mr. Herbert. >> Thank you, Mr. Cherry. Before you can see, Mr. Yoder uh provided some information. We have several football helmets uh that have uh surpassed their useful life. They are typically good for 10 years. We do have to take those. We send them back to the company every year to have those reertified, but after 10 years, they will
156no longer do that. Uh and so, they would deem those to be unsafe. So, obviously, we don't want our students using those. Uh so we are going to be disposing of those and I will say that Mr. Recctor and Mr. Yoder have come up with the idea to take those uh and kind of build them or turn them into lamps uh which they in turn hope to be able to sell to whoever would be interested uh and the proceeds of this sale will go back to the athletic department there at the middle school. So uh again just asking for the approval that these would be disposed of and we will take care of those and again happy to answer any questions. Motion to approve the surplus obsolete equipment as presented. >> So moved. >> Thank
157you, Mr. Heel. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Comments or questions? All in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, superintendence report. Dr. Sha. >> Yeah, thank you. I know it's getting late. I'll make this quick, but wanted to make sure the board's aware of this uh effort that's going on. It's a countywide effort. I think I think it's a really good one. It's going to take a little while to get there, but uh it's through our our service center, the county school districts and and a few local employers are working collaboratively develop a career coaching model to benefit our students. And Dr. Walker's been working particularly with the career coaching model over the last year, year and a half now u moving that forward. It's it's been
158a good effort. Um, but that process is going to assist students, high school students in particular, in meeting uh their work-based learning requirements are going to be necessary to graduate on the new diploma track beginning in 2029. Uh, and we're referring to it as a career collaboration model because we're working together on it for careers for kids. um developed that along with input from Hendrickx County businesses and it's going to include a focus on career pathway uh development, job shadows, internships, and career coaching. Um so we have joint teams uh from the Hendris County Schools that are working to develop a common guidance document um and that you know it's a process and a series of processes to help guide all of our students uh towards opportunities that are equitable for the school districts and
159equitable for the employers uh here across our area across the county and probably into Indianapolis and surrounding counties where we have employers. Um, we also anticipate a common software platform being used to help connect students with business shadowing and internship opportunities directly with employers. There's a platform we're working on where employers can my my general can sort of post to opportunities to it and kids can post eventually resumes and get connected. There's an intermediary in the middle that helps to connect kids and employers. on down the road. But that platform exists and something we're um looking at through a grant through the service center of acquiring. Um so I think the neat thing about it is one of the neat things the Hendricks College network is our intermediary here in Hendrickx County. They help to
160be a connector, a convenor if you will to try to bring these groups together. um and they're working alongside the uh the CESC staff, which is our service center, uh to assist the schools and employers. And when we're successful in the effort, uh we're going to be first in the state to successfully um put this kind of model together with a countywide multiple schools um model uh to do that. I think our students, especially those in nth grade this year, uh are counting us provide them those types of opportunities. I think it's really rewarding to see those kind of things coming together for their benefit. I appreciate the cooperation from the service center, from Hendris College Network, and from the other school districts here in the county to try to put together a model like
161this that works for thousands of kids here in Hendris County. So, I it's a neat thing. It's sort of in the early part of it. We've had a short series of meetings. We have more coming up uh to begin to build the guidance document uh and the processes that will occur. maybe similar processes in in each school district across the county, but helping those kids um get into those types of work-based learning experiences are going to have to have to graduate. Will >> this opportunity have any ties to whether you're on level with number of credits you're supposed to have targeted per year? meaning that if you're credit deficient, you can't post your resume or apply for one of these positions given your x number of credits below where you might need to be. >>
162Yeah, we we haven't got to that level yet of determining that. I I certainly think there's going to be something in there. I mean, you're going to have to you're going to have to be on track to get into the workbased learning piece where that's going to fit into your schedule. So, I think that sort of that baseline, particularly that fresh, >> you'll have to have the CTE at some point, right? >> Yeah. Well, it depends on which, you know, >> um >> Yeah. which badge they're going for, but >> more more for some, less for others, but they're all going to have some level of of hours. >> Okay. >> The estimated implementation of this, >> I'd say we're what, a year out probably. Is that fair to say? >> Yeah. I think they
163hope to work um have meetings for the rest of this school year and then we'll start the um lot the software in place for August of next year. So, do we anticipate then seeing a greater number of students that might just be at the high school in the morning and off to a job shadow or something few days a week or all week or a student is at area 31 that's a CTE in the >> Yeah, I do think there'll be an increase. I mean, everywhere from on these new diplomas, there's everywhere from 75 hours to 650 hours that a student needs of work-based learning. Um, so I think I think we're going to have to have systems in place so that kids can get those hours. Some of them will happen after the school
164day, weekends, you know, normal jobs that kids have. Um, but I think a lot of them will have to take place during >> this paralleling or replacing what used to be referred as the capston. >> So those are still in. So they still have the CTE pathways um, which are sort of separate from the workbased learning hours. So, some of them you'll be able to count depending on what those like CTE hours, what you're doing during that time. Some of them will count towards both, but you still have the CTE pathways with the completers going all the way through those capstones. And then you have your workbased learning hours. >> Will we have to hire someone to help manage those kids on the diploma? I mean, seems like a lot more work than what a
165school counselor would do. >> It is definitely a lot of work. Um, I've been talking with Mr. cloud filter to try to figure out how we can be creative. Obviously, we're in a, you know, a time where we we don't have the funds to add a whole lot of staff. So, how can we be creative with the staff that we have? Currently, one of our business teachers is doing it for part of her day. >> Didn't we used to have a part-time history teacher that then also >> So, now it's a business Now it's a business teacher. So, it's part of the business department. I think we're just going to have to be creative about about more of her day or whoever that workbased learning coordinator is to be able to go out to businesses
166and you know meet with kids during the day. right now she does that for part of the day but then she also has classes that she teaches and so it's difficult for her to get out into workplaces and so >> we'll have to as as we look at hiring additional staff over time depending on what enrollment does that will be something we probably need to prioritize somewhat too in that list of adding that other half position or whatever it may be to to get us there um and it we think it'll be a little bit of a trickle because you got freshman and they're going to start picking up those hours I think by the time when they hit their junior year, that's when we'll start to feel it hit a little bit more. Uh,
167and then particularly in your senior to make sure they've completed those experiences they need for the diploma. So, we'll have a chance to kind of see this thing develop. But having this system in place here within this next year, I think it's really going to help us uh be prepared to meet those challenges. So if we implement this the software whatever come next August >> is that only open to the class of 2029 and beyond or will it be open to the other classes that are in the school now? >> No, I think we'll still have upper classmen that because we have we have current students right now they're in workbased learning and doing internships so they'll get to partake as well. Okay. >> Um I think the tracking will look different with this freshman
168class than it will the older older students. They're enrolled in the class but don't need the hours like our current freshman and then beyond will need. Any other questions? >> All right. Next item on the agenda is announcements. Thanksgiving break will be November 26th, 27th, and 28th of 2025. Our next regular meeting will be December 8th at 6:30 here in the district training room in the Dam Community Middle School. I need a motion to adjurnn this meeting. >> So move. >> Thank you, Mrs. Ward. Second. >> Second. >> Question before we journ. >> Um, are we going to Can we tonight go ahead and set up our meeting that we have in December? >> Yep. I would ask that we do that after the regular December board meeting so that we are able to include
169things up to and conversations through that December board meeting as part of what goes on in that meeting. >> So either the week so our December board meeting is what? December >> 8th. So either the 9th through the 11th or the week after. >> All right. We've historically always done it the first week of December just because we start to get into I mean I have several different family members coming in the month of December, early December to visit. >> Well, I understand changing plans. I experienced that here recently. >> I will just go ahead and let you know. I won't the first week in December I won't be around. Let's um adjourn this meeting and then we'll have a discussion about what's available. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? >> This meeting
170is adjourned.