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May 26, 2026 Budget Workshop on the 2026-27 Reconsideration Budget

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2026-05-28
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Orange County, NY
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2026-06-28

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001Good evening everybody. This is presentation number two in the rebudget reconsideration process. This is a budget workshop. They came the purpose of this workshop is for the board to discuss the budget and revision of the budget. We've been working in district to look at next steps, taking community feedback into consideration, taking direction from the board in terms of the adoption forward. Um, this purpose of this evening is for a board discussion about budget and excess. >> What's happening is my screen President for a second. All right, reset. I apologize. Just doing a quick reboot. I think this way. Okay. >> Booting back up. >> Yeah. So it's not saying that's the issue. Come again. Okay. Sorry about that. Okay. So, the goals of tonight work of tonight's workshop or to just the review a collective

002review of the board decision and move forward with option two provide revised budget. You all met on Thursday evening in a special meeting and decided that as the option forward. We were able to develop a new potentially proposed budget. Uh so we will compare the original budget that went up on May 19th with this new proposed budget. We will do a review of revenues and some revisions we made to our revenue expectations and decisions. We will review our expenditure uh reductions. we will re and then we will revisit the original proposed budget and then we'll talk about the proposed change in impact to the taxpayer. Um anything we do tonight this is a framework to start from and you as the board have input as to moving numbers around using this using that changing this

003number changing that number. Um so this is just a framework to start with for your input. So on Thursday evening, the board met in a special meeting. Feedback from both the community and within the board was to move forward with option two, which was a revision of the budget. Option one was to go back out with the same exact budget and option three was to move forward and adopt a contingency budget immediately. So in order in revising the current budget, it allows us to discuss the tax levy adjustment to taxpayers. It allows us to review the expenditures and where we make the decisions about the cuts uh to make up the difference and then we can review our revenues. How are we going to be doing that? We have intern meetings going on. We have

004discussions. Uh we have the board budget workshops like the one this evening. We're going to be doing a community forum on Thursday. We are doing community outreach. Today we worked I sent out a community letter to our snowchain school messenger group uh over the weekend from you guys that you guys asked me to send out for you. Um but it didn't go to every single community member. So uh today Mary Dero worked with Boseis to create a shortened version of it to go out on a postcard. It will go to every single household. It will be mailed out tomorrow so they have it by the end of this week. And in that and on that postcard is a QR code that people can scan and access the budget reconsideration website. Um you guys asked me

005to try to make sure that as many community members have the information as possible. So that is one of our efforts to do that. Uh in addition to posting to Facebook. Uh in addition, we have our special education audit going on. They're actually coming into district tomorrow and working on it in the next couple of weeks doing some Zoom interviews and assessment of our So, we have that to inform our special education budget. And then earlier in this budget season, we talked about an enrollment study and a district review for the long-term health of the district. And that we would try to work on that this coming fall in preparation for the next budget season. Any questions on that? That should be Okay, at this point I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Sullivan,

006our business official, and he is going to review the potentially proposed budget and the framework that we began. >> Thank you very much. So, this slide here shows us the original budget that was voted down um as well as a proposed uh revised budget as a framework to start with. uh we were able to identify reductions of just over $1.1 million in the expenditure budget to coincide with that decrease in the expenditure budget. We also had to look at these revenue sources uh to determine where potentially we could find some savings either in the tax levy which shows a reduction of 347,410 from the original budget. That would be an increase of 2.98% uh for next year as opposed to 4.87. Um, also we are looking at potentially trying to conserve some reserve dollars, uh,

007holding those monies in savings for for future year use as opposed to using them in 2627. So, looking a little bit further in uh, reviewing some of the revenues, um, we took a look at state aid. The legislative budget came out. Uh we actually received an increase in foundation aid of almost $47,000. So this revised budget included that amount as well as an updated projection uh for UPK aid. Uh we will receive $10,000 uh per enrolled student in UPK. So we're projecting out 31 31 kids. So that's an additional $110,000 in that aid line as well. The other piece to to the the revenue pitch here is uh potentially trying to reduce our reliance on one-time funding, whether it be through uh use of reserve funds, which are one-time funds, or fund balance. Um >>

008yeah, so just to go back to the UPK aid just in case anyone pulls up the aid numbers actually online. So, our aid rate actually went from 108,000 to 200,000. Mr. Sullivan made a call today to state ed to make sure that our understanding of UP AK aid was correct that we will get $10,000 for every student enrolled, not just that 200,000. So, if you actually pull up our aid numbers online, it will say 200,000, but we were guaranteed today that it will be 310,000. So that's where this extra 110 comes from even though it's not reflected in what was released by the state last week or yeah uh so this is a slide that was previously discussed throughout the the budget um the budget season. uh we are trying to determine uh which reserves

009to tap into either entirely uh or a portion of thereof to balance the budget and use these onetime funds. Um with this revised budget, we're looking at potentially um saving nearly half of the insurance reserve and the retirement incent the retirement contribution reserve for future years. Um we're still looking at uh using the capital reserve what's left in there to offset the bus purchases we have planned uh for next year and also um realigning the reserve for taxertiary. I mean that that is still going to take place so it's a more accurate value in that reserve. So reviewing some of the expenditure side, um these are potentially some areas where we're proposing reductions in expenditures. Um when it comes to salary and benefits, we're looking at potentially six positions. Um one that has already been

010discussed, that's an administrative position and five additional across multiple departments. Um whether it be programmatic or capital type positions. uh reduction in number of hours for some salary uh for some hourly workers, excuse me. Um other reductions we've looked at, there are some software expenditures in curriculum and instruction. Uh the business office and technology, uh contracted services is specific to building and grounds. Uh we identified some areas maybe we can make some cuts in some of those projected services. Um purchase of buses. Uh we originally budgeted for one large wheelchair accessible bus and two smaller buses. So this would be reducing to just one large and one small bus. Field trips and tutoring. Um also looking at reductions in those lines potentially. Um there is the potential um as long as they fall within grant

011parameters to possibly putting some of these expenditures in federal grants in the future uh rather than including them in the general fund budget. uh potential reductions to student consumables and the amount of clubs offered. Uh also transfer to school lunch fund. Um you have details on that off the top here. >> So I believe it was about 10,000 10 to $15,000 that we reduced. Part of it was reduction in hours for hourly workers and then the other part was reduction in uh allocation for food. Um, so the school lunch bud is a separate account. >> Um, and but we allocate a certain amount in the budget every year to transfer into that school lunch account. So, we're just going to reduce the amount that we transfer. And then the last line on your transfer capital,

012we had originally uh budgeted for a $500,000 transfer um to cover the cost of the elementary school fire alarm system. Um, we're looking to reduce that um from 500,000 to 100,000. that would allow us to use that money on what's called the capital section project. Um that can be processed and completed through SED and then they kind of streamline it. Um so we're we'll receive the aid on that project the following year with the fire alarm. One thing to keep in mind, we've discussed this um at length in our workshops that the fire alarm fire alarm is near its end of life. Um and each time that something breaks, it is getting harder and harder to find the pieces. They do not make the parts anymore for the fire alarm. So, we have to find

013someone that sells old parts. Uh, occasionally we get in luck if can find a new part for sale. Uh, by doing this, if the fire alarm reaches its full end of life before we're able to go out for a capital project. So, in order to do this fire alarm, we now have to go out for a capital project for it. If the fire alarm were to fail completely and not able to fix it before we can get to that capital project. The students would have to be temporarily moved up here because you cannot operate a school without a working firearm. So the student the K prek through three students would have to move up here to the school. So I just want to make sure that that is you guys are all aware of that

014it was a it was a relatively easy way to find $400,000 towards this reduced budget. But there's We we have to we have to think about we're going to go have to go out for a capital project for that and and do that soon. So we're going to have that's will be facilities committee conversation in the next 6 months on what does the next capital project look like and trying to get that out of time. Okay. Quick questions. So I I just with this proposed reductions is this salary and benefits and all the other or is it one or the other? So we would either have to reduce six positions or and keep all this other or we get rid of the other and keep the >> I'll call five positions or these revised numbers

015that we started with in this revised budget. Um these are the reductions that we made preliminary. >> Okay. So it would be both >> right. >> Okay. So it's all together, >> right? >> It's not. >> So if if if if the conversation becomes you want to not cut some of these areas on this list. >> In order to put some of these things back into the budget, we need to do one of two things. either increase the tax levy more than what I have in this presentation which is at 2.98%. >> Or increase the usage of one-time funding through reserves. >> Okay. A quick question. Another question. Um I'm going to call it five positions since we already took the the the the admin was in the original budget, but >> it was not

016reduced at the original. >> No. Right. But now it's it's reduced. So, and I'm just thinking here, what's the total cost, right? How much are we saving with these five positions that we would have to reduce? >> Okay. And then also >> what are the costs of the other right >> because I mean if we go back to the first one of the first slides we reduced it from 4.87 to 2.98 and that saved us roughly $350,000. So if we keep the tax levy at 4.87, would that cover at least for next year five positions and keeping obviously you know there's some things that we can reduce but obviously we don't want to get rid of the field trips for the students. We don't want to get rid of tutoring for students that require um

017>> so just to answer a couple of your questions. So, one, the total salary benefits for everyone except for the assistant principal over five positions is about $300,000. The field trips we would look to try and use grant money for and the tutoring to some extent. I'm also working on trying to secure some other funds through state resources, but you won't know we won't know about that till later. So, it would be an initial cut. Then we when we look at grant funds and how to allocate that, if we can secure some additional state funds and allocate that, we might be able to put some of these things back in. But we can't guarantee any of those things right now. So they would need to be initially cut. And then first time put it off,

018which is how kind of work. You put something. Well, so one of one of the buses is for a student who that has additional needs and it would allow that child to be included on school bus with all of her peers who grade level could go together on that field trip as opposed to take two two buses. So we really we really would like to we really would like to have that bus that one bus at a minimum but I think the other bus could be done. Uh >> the the second bus is a smaller bus and that's the one that has rust in under the carriage and there's actually a hole in the frame that we discussed previously. >> It well it it's around $100,000 for that small bus compared to the larger one.

019Um originally we had two smaller buses in order to kind of push out uh one of we were we were on schedule to replace two large buses for next year. So after talking with transportation, it was determined we can push out the one larger bus that didn't have any issues and had lower mileage, but in the same turn to balance out the expenditures, we moved two smaller buses. One being that had some serious frame issues and then to balance the cost, we moved them. So this revise keeps the one large with the wheelchair and then still replaces one of the smaller buses that has the whole issues on. >> Mr. So, if I'm correct, we did not buy any buses this year. >> There were no buses budgeted. >> So, we already pushed out buses,

020right? So, we're already behind our 10-year replacement schedule. So, the more you choose not to replace, that's the more you have to buy in one year later on. So, just something to consider. It can be done, but you just have to consider the long-term potential just that. >> I know I asked about clubs. Does that mean all the current clubs at the elementary school and middle school? >> No. So a reduction of 18 we it included a reduction of 18 clubs which would still leave 20 clubs between the two school buildings. >> I just also want to get out there we can't cut salary benefits. So that's not an option. So just I'm sure come up to cut salaries. We can't do that. has contracted and we're under contract. It's not an option right now.

021Anything anything with staffing has to be through attrition. It can't be through, you know, or cutting positions. It's not. Well, let's just have someone take this. >> You mean based on the the proposed request, right? So, uh, cutting approximately half the insurance at the TRS, it would then leave us for future years reserve balances of just over $2.4 million. >> How much is that? >> So, it's $15,000 total. The I believe it was about I believe it was about 12%. So um 11,250 of that is salary and then 3,750 in food purchases. But what I also looked at on that was comparing um our current year's projected revenue budget. We get federal and state aid based off of our meal claims. Um so we're expected it looks like we're coming in higher than our projected

022amounts there too on the revenue side. Um, so that in combination with a discussion on on where the lunch manager is with their food purchases for the year, um, as well as potentially adjusting some of the hours for for maybe some of the food workers. We came up with that that that number that we're comfortable with, but that doesn't affect the the pre-launch. Now the free lunch of a federal program and in fact the the reason why we're getting more money back is because we are selling students are eating more lunches. There are more students participating in the program. So we're getting more money back. Um food service manager Sam has done a fantastic job making the the meals more appetizing. Kids are excited about the meals and so therefore participation is up which means

023the retirement reserve. Is there any risk to that? >> No, I mean that that reserve we've accumulated over the past few years. Um you're able to set aside a certain percentage of TRS salaries. Um it's really a way uh for the district to save just to offset the future contributions to the retirement system. Um so it I mean prior to I believe 3 years ago like that didn't exist and we didn't have that. Um so is there a ding or there's no issue with not having it. It's just it was a way to save money to offset future expenses. Um, so and that's that's exactly what's what we're using it for in this instance. But again, I mean the original budget, we were fully we're using that expending that entire balance in the original budget.

024Whereas now we're not only looking at a reduction possibly to the tax levy, but we're looking at these also to reduce some of these reserves so they can assist in the future to offset tax levy. Also, >> you can't have a whole place, right? You can't lose the tax levy and then get rid of this not next year. Don't go out on a higher tax levy and you save some of this for next year. >> We don't we don't know what our funding is going to be next year, >> right? foundation is a big question. So I mean if we do that as you see they never get their mind to project itself. So >> why are we using the full? >> Well, that's what we're talking about. I mean, we're trying to reduce our

025reliance on one-time funding as as well as reducing the tax levy here and the effect to the public. Um to just take a cut in just the tax revenue, that means we use more of these reserves this year and then we're kind of end up buying maybe a little bit more next year because we don't have as many reserves for future years. Mr. Sin, can you go over the three part component breakdown for the original proposed May 19th budget versus this new proposed budget? >> Yeah. So, this is a comparison between what the budget that was voted down and based off of our revised preliminary budget we've put together. Um, we can show we we've shown decrease of 1.1 million. These are the components, the three-part components that those uh decreases affect. Um you can

026see uh the percentage of budget of prior year and that of this revised budget. Um they're pretty closely aligned. The program percent of budget goes up slightly. Capital obviously decreases uh primarily because of that, you know, reducing one bus purchase and also reducing substantially the transfer of capital for the elementary school alarm project. Um and then even uh administrative uh component in this revised budget decreasing uh by about uh 21%. >> Can you just again explain the difference of like what program covers versus what capital covers and what administrative covers? Uh yeah, the administrative portion um includes a lot of line items like board of education, uh district meetings, district clerk, uh obviously supervision, the chief school administrator, uh the business administration, uh the business office, that is uh auditing and accounting fees, uh tax

027collection fees, purchasing, uh legal fees, personnel records management, uh, central printing and mailing. Uh, we have insurance, school dues. Um, there's also pretty high cost for Bosey's administrative charges, which are, uh, the cost of us doing business with cooperative services and Boseies. >> And then also there's a capital expense uh, capital expense through Boseies. Um, that's our district share of project costs that is that are going on at Boseies. Um those two are are larger numbers. Um supervision of the both schools including the principles and their staff. Uh and then all of the benefits that that are associated with them. Uh the capital component. >> So all of that just the administrative >> all of that is administrative. Yes. They make up that >> yes they make up that $2.664 million in the supervised budget.

028Um the capital component is made up of operation of plant, maintenance of plant. So think like all your custodial workers, but then also um gas and utilities, water, garbage collection, all of all of those types of expenses to run a district. Um >> transportation. >> Uh no, transportation is part of program. Um except for the bus purchases. The bus purchases are considered capital. Um and that was actually next uh the bus purchases and district transportation and then all of the benefits and everything that that gets associated with all of those other categories within capital. And then program is all of your instructional codes um instructional teachers, non-instructional TAs, tutoring, um contractual expenditures, subscriptions, field trips, materials and supplies. uh the entire section of special education uh elelll uh occupational education which is CEK services um

029school library uh computer assisted instruction so that's like the tech technology resources attendance and guidance health services psychological services pupil personnel services uh we have co-curriculars and intercolastic athletics uh and then your transportation codes. So, district transportation, including bus drivers, bus monitors, um vehicle insurance, all of the expenditures that you would think would go to transportation such as repair buses, material supplies, automotive parts, uh gasoline and diesel for the vehicles, tires, um and then also garage building. So, you have mechanics, the rental of the bus garage, telephone and utilities there at that garage. Um and then big additional expenditure for Bosey's contractual costs. Um those transportation costs for Bosey's getting our kids around. Um and then community service uh type expenditures and then all of the benefits that apply to all those codes um make

030up all the program expenses. uh part of the well part of the the three-part component budget that's listed online, the budget statement, it breaks all of these categories up into the three components. Um to the nor to the regular individual off the street, maybe it it can seem confusing. Um the way I mean it's not guaranteed, but the way I've always kind of thought about the budget in a school district is there are what are called functions. So for each of these things I just listed, it's known as a function in a school budget, right? Um typically any function that's in a thousand level series can be administrative, give or take. I mean there's some exceptions, but for the most part, you think a thousand is uh administrative. The 2000s all the way up to

031the 5,000s are instructional program for the most part, right? Um benefits are all the 9,000 codes, you know? So, I mean, I know that and I've tried I tried to put that out there, but the normal person maybe won't. Uh, at the bare minimum though, that budget statement that's posted online is broken up into these categories. Administrative being the first big component and then capital and then program. So, I I mean the information is out there, but it's maybe not may it hasn't maybe been made clear over time. You know what I mean? the the principles are principles are administrators right line items that are incorporated into capital. >> Yeah, >> I mean it makes sense always. So that that brings us back to kind of what we started the presentation. Now gather your thoughts

032on able to reduce the total budget by 1.1 million. We're able to reduce the tax by 347,000. So what would that mean to the average taxpayer? this revised budget. Um it's a 2.98% increase to the tax levy. Um that would mean um a $1287 uh $1287 uh increase per month for the average Green Lake household or $154 per year compared to the original budget um that was voted down $21 a month and over $250 $2 for the year. So again, this is where we now are going to take your discussion feedback that tax 2.98. If you want to go somewhere between above 2.98, somewhere between the $12 a month, we can do that. We can work those numbers from here. If you think that's too much, you want to go even less, we can try

033and trim the total budget more. Right? So this is now where you're going to need to tell us what you would like to look at how you feel what direction you want to go. >> I get one question I have and I don't know if you can answer this but it goes back to if we reduce it to 2.98 what's going to happen next year? I mean we're going to be in the same situation if we're going have to make more cuts. So I I mean I I don't know. I think >> No, but I'm thinking what if we I mean even with these cuts, if we raise it back to 4.87, that way we'll at least have some reserve next year. Not not much. It's only $350,000. If if we don't use that to

034keep some of these positions and some of the stuff that we don't get grants for for the kids. I see any cuts. No one wants to see anyone. >> The fire alarm doesn't want it. That's >> I mean that's we need to figure that out. >> Well, that's why everybody would have to move down here if it fails. I mean, we're going to have to go anyway. It's find a way there. I have to try to find a way that we at least somehow. So typically something like a fire alarm would be and as a part of a larger capital project you could potentially go out with a capital project for just a fire alarm and we can turn that around relatively quickly. We just have the the uh architect and engineering fees associated with

035that. Right. So, and that and the number of meetings for that did that for a larger cattle project to think about that you can break it out into two. There'll be a slightly more background cost to it, but you'd be able to turn it around a little bit faster than a larger project. >> But we know how that works. We have to get we have to get the community to get it in front of the state. It's going to take time. You might not have time for that. Well, ju just to be clear, putting the money in the budget, we still it still does have to go to the state. We still do need to they still need to design the system. They still it still needs to go to the state for approval. So,

036that part of the process still does go through. Um, Mr. Solen and I were talking about could we figure out a way to classify it as an emergency project to expedite that process, but we don't know if that would be possible. Um, but we do still have to you you can't just buy the fire alarm system on Amazon and install it, right? Like it's you still have to go through all those processes. You just don't have to wait for the capital project. So the question is do you want to wait for a capital project or whatever capital project you want to do that we very soon or with the next larger capital project or do you want to leave it in the budget and then that's $400,000 that goes back into the budget. But then

037where's that? What are we going to take $400,000 for? And >> leave the tax levy at 4.7. >> 400. >> I I understand that the community >> I mean it's it's going to cost more if we go out to the capital project. It's going to cause more. Any delay we do know it's going to cause >> the whole system the whole everything try See right now it's not going to be high. Oh, >> I know. I get it. Yeah,% >> that's the alternative. >> What's that? >> Quarter percent is $50,000. >> So, That's what I do. I would really like to hear what has to say about that because I think that might change some >> if it was 3.98% tax levy increase it be about $17 a month. I mean that we have we

038know it's a firearm cuts that might change minimal cuts. >> No, that's why I'm saying that you if you stick at this >> right there's going to be next year >> there's going to next year it's going to be worse. If you want to go one year at a time, you can do that. But >> that's not good. >> It's worth at least on Thursday, >> I think. >> Well, hopefully there's enough people watching that'll show up and give us their feedback, >> right? at least so we can have an idea of closing. >> Um, so just to be I want to be very clear that that going back out with the same budget means using those reserves in full and not having them next year. >> So if you if you want to reduce

039these reserves and have them for year two, you're still making reductions to staff. So going back out doesn't necessarily mean you're not making these cuts. So that that one doesn't equal the other necessarily >> unless you go out original budget which I don't care that anymore. >> You could you you could go out with a higher budget. A revised budget doesn't necessarily mean lower. It's typically lower, but you could go out with a 12% increase if you wanted to. And you know so >> and what would be the contingent budget? So we are still looking at that. We uh had a very long day today but it would mean even more reductions to staff >> and then we are also restricted by certain have to be cut right. So >> so this yes and no.

040So some of it is up to us but there are certain places that you have to make cuts right. So again, so community use that is one of the things that has to get out. The community wouldn't have to pay to use the facilities. Um that's a mandate as a partner. >> All equipment codes >> entirely. So all of regular equipment purchases like iPads, Chromebooks, things that that we buy, all of the buses gone and the transfer capital, you can't have that the contingent budget and it's at a it really puts the district at a further disadvantage. you know, >> we've already cont this whole >> correct which which is why it needs to be it needs to be included in the discussion of what you guys are saying what you're talking about >> because

041if if if your first I'm not saying we fail or anything but your first in like let's just go back out with the same tax increase and and that is one of those talking points with the public that they're going to stick to that and say 4.87 87 there's no way we're approving that then the whole revised budget gets voted down and we have to go to contingent. Um so rather than trying what we've done is you know come up with a revised budget where we recognize maybe if we if we trim enough or make enough cuts in the budget we can reduce the tax levy maybe to a more reasonable what the public sees that they would vote to approve it. but also showing that we are looking at all of these areas that

042have come up and trying to reduce even further wherever we can to work together to get this to work because the last result and the last thing I feel like anybody wants is a contingent budget because not only does that will that reflect in the budget lines with more cuts, specific cuts that are going to hurt the students of the district, it's also going to really hinder the district district going forward because the starting point to any tax levy c calculation is the previous year's tax levy. So every year we don't raise taxes a little bit. Our starting point is less going forward. So we don't have the legal authorization to raise that money again. >> That means more cuts. You have to propose this firearm. All these other 4.7 close to four. The reason

043was there was that going forward Because of co we the boards over the years since 2020 have worked to keep the tax levy impact as little as possible. Zero one below two in order because people were struggling or out of work. At the same time the price of everything went exponentially higher. So we were taking in less than our tax levy costs were increasing which means that gap was getting bigger and bigger and had a great slide that he had presented at prior budget meetings that online access that shows that graph right and it has inflation in the background. So our the costs to run the district are getting up our tax life is only going up this much. Any math teacher will tell you that that gap, we now need to make that up

044or we need to we need to bring them closer together. Our tax living increase budget increase. So, we got to figure out a way to close that gap. And I just want to reiterate that and someone said it earlier last year Governor Hok works to eliminate to greatly reduce foundation and then she put it back in and there is a general consensus that if she is elected again that that foundation aid will get cut next year. So that is something else we need to consider that you then have to make even as much as we have to make up a tax already if we get that reduction in the foundation a date that's more tax levy or additional cuts in whatever the foundation a so it's absolutely unknown it may not happen I think everybody

045would fight against it right and advocate advocate for it was like they did last year but uh if and see what's onion reserves are here. You're going to have to pay tax. So the question at this point becomes what do you want us to present this at the community forum on Thursday? Do you want us to go a little bit higher than the 2.98? What what what direction do you want us to >> say? That has to be I mean and then if they come in on Thursday and everybody they want then >> fine we'll we'll reduce it to what they want but then everybody has to be aware that >> you want to be hired >> in the next what >> where would you want to be hired >> 4.25 25 >> 2.5 alarm

046and you know we're not going to have reserves next year. So we need to increase taxes a little bit this year. So next year doesn't go out of eight projected again and then we're just in the same position but next year teachers. So what I'm hearing >> I mean that's that's my >> this is So what I'm hearing is that you really would like to get the firearm back in to the budget. So that's $400,000 and we do that. We're not going to be able to do that solely in tax, right? Because that's you have to go up two full percentage points. So, we'll figure that out. >> But, so it's important to you to try to get the fire alarm back in. To do that, that means we have to add 400,000 back in,

047which means either that's coming out of the reserves, those onetime funds, or it's an additional deduction somewhere else. To be clear, if you get another $400,000, you're probably looking more. >> This is not We're not increase our reserves. We're still making the fire alarm for a future. I think we should talk about it like we're going to be coming with this vote. This the reason why we're doing it. You know, just like to hear more about the community. Maybe we get a sense of what we have. We get a better sense in everyone. >> All right. So what we what we will work on for Thursday is kind of presenting something without the fire alarm going out of a project and then the fire alarm and what that means. >> The two proposals together with

048the the current 2.98 and the 4.25 show >> that's going to be with the firearm or without the firearm >> basically. >> No, the 4.25 5 without because people still need to understand if you don't increase taxes next year, it's coming next year. I mean this year it's coming next year. >> So I mean just have more money in reserve. So then next year you don't have to go out at eight. You can go back out at 4.25 4.75 just so they can see what where we're at. That means also per month right down to four right $17 So 2.98 without the firearm. That's this one. 4.25 without the firearm and 4.25 with the firearm. >> And then the four slides or whatever it is. So it's really something percentage. >> I just I'm definitely

049I worry as much as possible. I know that obviously but that to me It's a policy there as much as possible one year, two year, 5 years at 1.8 million. And we're pretty much using close to the amount of reserves that we have 600,000. Do you think that that that gap slide would be helpful to bring back >> again? Oh, for the inflation. >> That was in the book. >> Yeah, it was. >> Yeah, it's perfect. >> What would happen to So what would the logistics would be here? >> Yeah. We had half days. >> I knew K was up here. >> Oh, that's right. Yeah, they did overlap by some. >> Let's not Let's not >> Okay. 2.98 with the fire alarm. 4.25. 25 without the fire alarm. 4.25 with the fire alarm and

050the intended budget and additional security. >> No problem. >> What is sleep? >> Anything else that anyone wanted to bring up? Uh we are also working on the community forum and what that would look like and a way to have a productive conversation for small groups tables board members with community members up and so that we can have more conversations like this as opposed to one person talking about the next day as well and we are looking at having Okay. >> And that's 7:30. >> That is 7:30 on Thursday in here. And then we also we found out today that our budget vote, just so everyone knows, on the 16th is the same day as the elementary school concerts. And so we have to we are navigating that. The concerts take place in the gym.

051They cannot be moved. So therefore, the boat has to be moved. We originally thought about the cafeteria, but we're now looking at potentially some of the classrooms near the far right entrance, potentially the art room, the music room, or the library, things like that. So, we're going to navigate that. But once people realize, oh my gosh, the concepts are the same thing. Vote, we are aware and we're just going to figure it out. We didn't want to move the boat up here. We've already announced it as an elementary school. That's where >> and the vote, we can't change the date. >> No, it's state >> and the concert has been in the calendar and people take off for that and have put in vacation days for that. I do not want to change. >> All

052right, we have our direction to go forward with that. Thank you everybody for your time. Thank you. Thank you.

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