CorpusRecord 23427

September 8th School Board Meeting

A searchable transcript preserved as part of the Discourse Corpus. Passage numbers provide stable references within this record; verify quotations against the original recording when available.

Source
YouTube / Goshen Community Schools
Date
2025-09-10
Location
Elkhart County, IN
Material
Transcript
Extent
6,007 words · about 34 min
Collected
2026-06-05

Transcript

Verbatim source text

001America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> I'd like to welcome everyone this evening and just uh a few opening remarks. This is a meeting of the school board of public for the purpose of conducting the school corporation's business and is not to be considered a uh public community meeting. There is time for public participation as indicated by agenda item number two. The mission at Goan Community Schools is to inspire innovation, empowering potential, and enriching our world and our vision. Go Community Schools, Elker County School District of Choice. Item 1.4 is approval of tonight's agenda. Do we have any revisions to the agenda tonight? >> No, sir, Mr. President. >> All right. So, the agenda is approved as presented. And board members,

002uh, item 1.5 are our minutes from the August 25th, 2025 meeting. Do we have any comments or revisions to those minutes? Seeing a lot of nos and shaking heads. So they are approved as presented. We will now move on to item two, which is public comment. >> No one has signed in. I will give you one last chance. Anyone want to talk about agenda or non-aggenda items? Okay, we will move on then. Thank you. Uh item three, superintendent reports. Mr. Voice. >> Thank you, Mr. President. We'll start out. Uh Dr. Evans has a couple updates for the board. >> Thank you. In your u binders or your board back, excuse me. You'll find uh the bus replacement plan and the capital projects plans. Those are two pieces of the budget that we submit each year.

003Uh the next board meeting, I'll ask to advertise those. So, I wanted to give you a chance to look at those before then. Uh, another item that we I you mentioned last board meeting or something I did about the roofs and so I did a little bit of work on that. We have uh 160 roofs. They're really roof sections, but we that there's 160 sections that we we maintain. That's 920,000 square feet, 28 million worth of asset value. And it looks like in 26 we need to be working on somewhere between six and 8% of the roofs. So roofs are a big business in go schools. >> That's a lot of road. >> That's it. >> Oh uh and if anyone's interested, I do have a map of the replacement roof. >> May I ask

004you a question on the capital projects plan that you have listed here just so I have a point of clarification. So you have item three which is demo of Main Street house. Is that the the house adjacent to Parkside? >> It is. >> Okay. And then the other question I have is another one says Parkside House move. You also have a large value there. >> Well, >> I just want to make sure I understand what the two different values are. >> I don't think we're going to do that, but if I didn't put it on here, I just wanted to be able to put it on there. >> So, this is if we would choose to try to move it. >> If we would choose to move it and then we sell it, it's on

005there. So that's probably not going to happen, but I put it on there anyway. >> And the and I've obviously asked you or mentioned this before, would we have a mechanism to offer it up if someone would like to buy it and move it themselves for a dollar? >> I believe we could. Um, and actually have reached out to a realtor and I've reached out to Lacassa to see if they had any interest. Uh, the realtors uh didn't have any interest in it. They want to sell homes, not move homes. and Lacass hasn't gotten back to me. >> So, I I can say I've spoken to a couple people that are actively looking for lots that would be feasible to move it to. >> It would be cheaper for Gian Schools to let somebody do

006that. Correct. I would be very open to that if you guys were. >> All right, that's one make sure we have the options. So, I appreciate you clarifying that. >> Actually, I just have one question too just as far as the dates are concerned. At the top, it you know, these are within the next three years of the day when the plan was adopted and the adoption date is the end of this month. Um, is this something that was decided before since there's nothing past the end of September? Like it's not three years from now and all the dates. >> Oh, the estimated [Music] >> it was a little confusing to me. >> Yeah, I probably should change those then as far as the dates. Uh, To be truthfully, I meant to put 26 on

007this instead of 25. So, I have my years wrong. I'll I'll make an amendment to that. >> Okay. >> So, then will there be since it says three years, um, do we just not have 27 and 28 available or what's the >> your projects are supposed to be completed within within three years, but honestly, every year we do another one of these. Okay. >> So, I try to keep them within the same year. >> Got it. All right. >> And I think this And I I will >> statute reads that we have to we have it's like a three-year plan. >> Right. Right. Right. And it's a carryover from when they used to do it a different way. Both of these are um carryover from DLG where they used to do it a different way.

008And what I'll do is I will make that amendment, Mr. Glick. And uh we'll sign one that has the right dates on it. Historically, there used to be a CPF fund and then there was a bus replacement fund and but they kept the then that's what you did. You presented your three-year plan for both of those and the board approved the uh tax rate for those funds. >> Yeah. Then one other question I had was with the bus replacement costs. Uh they go from 190,000 next year to 230,000 by 2030. Is that just inflation expectations or >> Yeah, I put a I put an an inflation value in there going forward, but as I said, each year we're going to be doing another one of these and so the numbers probably change based upon what

009the values were last year. I think if you look at last year's plan, and I I haven't yet, but that the numbers weren't this high because the bus values the costs have just skyrocketed this year. So even though last year when I gave you a plan for three years, the they we've already gone above it. Any other questions for Bob? Okay. Uh then if it's okay, Mr. President, we'll go on to student achievement and ask John Everingham, our CT director, to come up and just give you a quick update. Nothing Adrien questions if you'd like. just kind of where we're at this year. >> Okay. Thank you for the opportunity. Um we are officially up and running. Um 11 half day CTE programming uh opportunities for for students as you guys uh know. Um I

010did just want to share uh maybe briefly at the beginning here just uh um some things that we've been talking about at the staff CTE staff. Um um and it's just the vision maybe that that we have for CTE. Um anytime that you kind of are doing business and educating students in in our area, the first thing we always talk about is safety. uh student safety and um proud to announce Jenny just told me 265 last year late last year 265 OSHA 10 certifications were issued uh to students that that took that test and then again this year some of those students are are in our halfday CTE programs. Uh we have 106 uh seats that we purchased. I believe you guys purchased those seats. And so we're anticipating probably from late last year, early

011this year, uh 400 industry recognized certifications in OSHA 10 um that will be earned by our students. So um thank you for for helping us out with that. Uh number two, um with our programming being half day and and the amount of time that our teachers kind of get to spend with students, certainly a vision for us is is building relationships uh via CTE programming. And um I've been very impressed with with our staff. Um we have four new staff members that are beginning their first full year at Goan High School. Um, and really the collaboration that that everybody kind of working together is just kind of a culture of of collab collaboration. Obviously, the vision, the third vision uh point that we've been talking about is teaching and learning. So, safety, relationships, teaching and

012learning. That's kind of what we're talking about here early in the school year. Um, like I said, um, we are up and running in all 11 of our CTE programs, half day CTE programs. Certainly want to thank the school board, uh, central office staff, high school administration, principal Kathy Deire, and, uh, the counseling department. It was a really big kind of ontaking. It was something different. It was change, and it was embraced by all. I can I'm happy to report to all of you that um, it took a team and and um, everybody was on board all in, and it only was accomplished because of that. And so there was a there was a lot to do and including the summertime talking about facilities um equipment uh for me getting to know some community partners

013that I think will be key players as we move forward. Um so all of that went very very well. Um if we want to talk just briefly about some numbers I did uh give you a document there but uh listen to this one. 425 juniors and seniors participating in halfday CTE programming. And so that would consist of um go high schools halfday CTE programming. We have pathways CTE cooperative career center in WAC. Uh we have the Elcart area career center and then obviously workbased learning opportunities for students. So it's 425 juniors and seniors participating in half day CTE. When I gave you uh this sheet, uh I think late last year, we were anticipating maybe 240 students that would participate in our our half-day CTE programs. And I just counted before I came over here,

014272 um is the number um that I believe to be correct at this point in time. So, um it it really is amazing. That's just the juniors and seniors. Um when you take a look at our brand new flight path lab, which is an experiential um uh freshman uh all freshman will go through our flight path lab. Uh just an opportunity for students to kind of go explore and experience um some of our uh CTE programs. So we're super excited about that. We're probably two three weeks away from getting that finished and and um getting that up and running. So that that's a big news there. So we have a clear focus on outcomes and that's all of our halfday ACT CT programs and those outcomes are college dual credits um industry recognized certifications and

015then work-based learning opportunities that align with the programming so in our training facilities. So once a student gets trained hopefully the idea is that that they get their dual credits, they get their industry recognized certification and then some real world experience uh to kind of finish up their their experience there. So um there's certainly some other things that uh that I have highlighted there, but I'd love to answer any questions that you that you might have. Um, this is I was thinking earlier today I was having a a conversation with a student. Uh, I asked he was having uh some some issues and I asked what keeps you coming back to school and he said welding. And it was really really powerful. Really powerful. And so um I think you know the CT programming it's

016it's a really big deal. And I can stand here tonight and tell you we've had some stories already kind of coming out of those labs that are really really impactful. and life changing and I'm being serious and so um thank you you know for for bringing this to go and the go students and impacting them via CTE. It's really been powerful and I'm just very blessed and thankful to be a part of it. Thank you. Any questions for me? >> Any questions? >> Well, I'll say this. I've said this to you before, John. I think your enthusiasm is fantastic and I I appreciate that you're here helping us grow this and lead this. Um sad took it's long to get you back home. You're here. That's okay. >> Uh but no, I I everywhere that

017you go or people I talk to that have heard you speak, it's getting the community excited about what we're doing here. Um and I think that's the important thing. Too many people believe that the trades don't exist anymore. That public education has given up on the trades. That is the furthest thing from the truth and it's getting our story back out there and I applaud you for doing that. Well, I appreciate your leadership in this. Thank you and really excited for what more can come. This is still the start. >> We're just getting started. And I will say if anybody's listening or watching online, I mean come visit, check out what we're doing, I say all the time that people when they take tours of the facilities that we're offering, it's two comments almost every

018time. It's it's I had no idea this was here and I wish this would would have been here when I was in school. And so come check out the you know what we got going on. we'd love to give tours and and so thank you for all your support and >> and just so the board knows uh we're going to have some internal conversations over the next month about what do we want to add next year can't add everything but what what might we want to do that that kind of as we narrow things down we'll bring it to the board and have some discussion at the board level and then we'll kind of agree on yep let's do that one let's do that one so appreciate Kathy's leadership and and John's leadership Just a

019real quick question. I might have misunderstood you. What was the difference between the 272 and the 425 students? >> So we have label the same here. >> We still send students to career centers. >> Okay. So that was >> and so we we don't offer everything like >> right >> Mr. Deo said that you know we're thinking about some some other things that we can offer but we don't offer everything. For example, if a student's interested in graphic design um they can go to El Career Center and do that automotive at Wallace C. So we have work-based learning opportunities. We have students that are going I believe, don't quote me on this, but I think Goan traditionally has been 120 to 150 in terms of spending uh or sending and spending, you know, to send

020students to the career center where we're kind of bringing it back home and and you know, the form 38 process starts now. So we'll kind of take a look at some funding issues, but that's that's what that is. So 425 is that's everything. >> That's everything. So 272 would just be here at go. >> What are the the most common things that the other career centers are offering that we don't do in house that kids are going to? >> Yeah. Um I can tell you like um um automotive. We have a lot of students interested in automotive. Um um that also would include auto body collision and repair. Um so we have a lot of students interested in that. We actually have a lot of students interested in criminal justice. And then it's just like

021sprinkled, you know, one, two here and there and just some different, you know, programs. So, so we've kind of hit the major ones here. We build a really solid foundation with construction and and welding and nursing, you know, the health sciences and then engineering and business. That's like the big high wage, high demand. Then some of the other ones that are a little lower wage, lower demand, we send to the career center. >> Thank you. You're welcome. Any other questions? >> Okay, >> thanks guys. Thank you. >> Next up, Dr. Medcave has uh some updates, I think, quick updates on Niola and some enrollment and other things, website meeting. >> So, the NEOLA has the policies have been sent back to Niola for processing. So you should be within the next two weeks or so

022we should be getting a a copy uh electronic copy of them that we can distribute redistribute to the board so they can start going through and and looking at the at the updated policies. Uh we are now currently working on some administrative guidelines and we are we've got four of the nine areas done completed. Our goal would be to have it have the AG's done just about the same time that the board is adopting the the policies. Um so that's it for Niola. Uh in enrollment uh as of today like we were at 5964 if on the spring count we were at uh 6,19. So we're down about 55 right now. Um we are still cleaning up some areas. I know that the high school and the elementarymentaries and the junior high have been working

023really hard about tracking down students we have not seen or heard from yet so that we can either get them back to school or get them off of our roles so that somebody else can claim them. So that will clean that will continue to clean up. Um, so, uh, we are looking to be down. Um, that being said, we we did graduate about I think it was or something like that. Um, and we have 430 kindergarters coming in. So, uh, that accounts for about 30 of those, the difference right there. Um, which to be honest with you, we were very pleased to have that many kindergarteners because middle of July we only had 360. And so we were very we were very nervous. So we were we're very pleased that that number went up. Uh

024you know we talked uh a quite a while ago about the website. Andrew has been working and we've actually had the company that's working with us power not powers school that's parent square the company Apogee um has been we've actually sent it back to them a couple different times to have them redesign the whole thing because we didn't like it. So it's taken quite a while. But tomorrow we are having um a focus group of community members and parents. Um our parent engagement group will be looking at looking at the updated website and providing feedback for it um so that we can finish it up and get it and get it up there. Most it's probably 80% populated with u with with the information needed. Uh and then last word last really we have it

025we've we've adopted or we've upgraded Skyward from uh old Skyward to the new Skyward with any kind of software integration or updates when it's it involves wholesale change it does not always go as smoothly as we would like. Um and that is the case right now. We have a number of of issues that we are currently ironing out. Um, so, uh, just giving parents a heads up that the Skyward app will be offline for a couple weeks while we for maintenance while while everything gets ironed out for it. Um, so if you parents have questions about grades or anything like that, we recommend contacting the teachers um, uh, just to just to do that. Um, so that is kind of where we're at. >> Is there a timing that's planned on for that outage? Uh

026we would like we it's we can determine when the outage starts stops. So we our goal was to notify you tonight and then and then send out some information to parents and and so that it can start. >> So if you put a ticket in you know that ticket will probably be sitting there for a while. Um we will we will try to answer the some of the tickets that are simple to like you know maybe it's just delete the old app, bring the new app on. Um but um once we once we get Skyward and the Department of Ed talking correctly, then we'll move move forward. State reporting of season is coming up, including our um certified enrollment. Um so we want to make sure that is definitely correct um here. And so we

027need to do some maintenance on the new Skyward in order to make that happen. >> And that is all for my updates. Any other questions for Dr. Mat? >> Okay, I think we'll go on to people commitments and um I know Tracy has a quick update and so does Lori on. So, go ahead Tracy. >> Yeah. Um just thought we'd let the board know. Um around the district, we are in our wellness screening campaign. Um which means our employees can come in and get blood work done. Um we do this annually. Um last year we had 285 employees in dependent spouse that came in and took part in the wellness screen. This year we are up to 304 of our employees signed up for for getting their blood work done. So we're excited that we're

028going up and um we still have two weeks and we even had to add an additional day into our schedule. So hopefully we exceed that number even further than the 304 by the time it's done. employees do get a little bit of a break on their premiums by completing the three steps. So, it's a nice little bonus for them by checking their wellness and getting a little bit of money back in their pockets. >> Thank you, Tracy. Any questions for Tracy? Oh, you got one? No, just good to hear. Okay, Lori. >> Okay, so in front of you, you have an infographic. Um, I'm pleased to share that we are increases in positive responses from parents to our family engagement initiative. So on this first page you can see just a description of the statewide

029family engagement center that is um where they received the federal funding for the effect project. Um and so again we were one of five eleas that in Indiana that were selected for the grant. Uh the first side basically shows number of participation of staff and families. Um we had 507 families participate. That's up from 445 families um from our baseline data. And then we had 416 school staff respond compared to 321 from our baseline data. So definitely increases in participation, but we want better than that, right? So you can see one of one in 13 families participated. Right now we're pushing the survey out through parent square. So, I think we just need to get a little bit more creative about other ways that we might um encourage parent participation to take the survey. On

030the back, this is where the exciting data continues. >> The magic happens on the back. Um so, the the purpose of this grant is to grow the capacity of both staff and families to partner together around student outcomes. Um when we grow the capacity of both of those groups, then we're going to grow their confidence and we're going to grow connection. and that culture that we want around family engagement. And so you can see that in terms of resources and children being or parents being able to access resources um and feel like when there's a need for their child, they're getting a response um that is positive and you can see there that we went up, you know, significantly in some data points there. Um so just an example, understand the steps their child needs

031to take uh to go to college career. Um so compared to 69% in the baseline, that's now 77% in our new data. Um and so that's just one example of um how the um these increases um have occurred from the last time. Um in the middle you have just see some more data around um families being engaged in decision making, right? So, what does that look like? Or at least a feedback loop um when individual schools or the district as we're thinking about new ideas or innovation or improved partnerships that they're feeling like they have more of um a say in those processes whether it's at the district level or at the school level. And so, that's really exciting. So, um we said we would bring you this data. Um this is uh just data

032from the survey. We have other sources of data around our family engagement efforts. Um but that survey is one that's pretty important for us to be looking at. Um and so the next survey will be given at the end of the school year and we'll look again to see um you know obviously again we want to um increase participation but hopefully in all of these data points we continue to see those upward trends. Some needs were identified below. Uh so we'll just continue to work at um how do we make activities available that are meaningful to our families and how most important to me is how do we and our staff respond to families when they need our support. Um and that's that that's because of you that we have that continued approval to have

033that training and that continued work. So we just thank you for that. >> So any questions for Lori? And the numbers are going in the right direction on engagement. That's good. So, uh, pretty impressive. Uh, thank you. I know there's a meeting tomorrow night. >> A meeting tomorrow night. >> Yep. Um, that concludes our reports, Mr. President. >> All right. Thank you very much. Uh, we will now move to item 4.1, which are committee reports. Board members, anything to report from your committees? >> I was not able to make the meeting this last week. So, unfortunately, I don't >> others building trades is not >> I'll say redevelopment is meeting tomorrow and as of what is on the agenda too crazy so all right so we will now move on to item five which is

034our consent agenda items one approval of accounts payable dated September 8th 2025 and payroll dated August 22nd 2025 5.2 gifts and donations, 5.3 personnel. Anything you need to highlight on the consent agenda tonight? >> Yes, Mr. President and board members, we have Elena Hussy, who is a transportation bus driver for 21 years, is retiring. So, thank her for her service to her. >> With that, consent agenda items are approved as presented. All right, we will now go to item six which are action items and we'll start with 6.1 permission to advertise for 2026 budget Dr. Evans. >> Yes. So uh in your packet there you'll see that uh this is essentially from the form four from the gateway uh provision and it lists the budget estimates and then the current levy. So I've just copied

035that and pasted it here. The referendum fund, the budget is expected to be 6.7 million. The rainy day fund 1 million debt service 13 million 953,685 referendum uh debt capital referendum 6,358,500. The education fund 52,81,300 and operations 18,500,000. Um, you know that we do advertise high to protect the go community schools because we can't increase the budget later on. I don't even have the assessed valuation yet. It's not due till August 1st. Um, so we advertise to protect property caps uh to get our 1782 in December. Yes, that was sarcasm. >> Sorry, I shouldn't have done that. >> Okay, thank you for that, Dr. Evans. May we have a motion and a second for item 6.1. >> I move for the passage of item 6.1 permission to advertise the 2026 budget. >> Moved by Mr.

036Brooks, seconded by Mr. Goodman. Board members, any concerns with advertising the budget? Any comments on that? Okay. So, with that, we have a motion and a second on the floor. All those in favor, please say I. Raise your hand. I opposed >> passes six to zero. >> All right. Item 6.2. Let's talk about snow removal. Dr. >> Well, it uh we're doing it earlier this year. We did last year. I think don't think we got till till almost November. So, this is uh this is the right time to do it. We'd like to recommend Diamond Green as the lowest bid for Gan High School, Chamberlain, Goan Intermediate School, Parkside, Prairie View, and Waterford. We'd also like to recommend Kripe uh for Goan Junior High, Chandler Model, and West Go. Kripes have done snow removal for

037a number of years now. Diamond Green is a new bidder uh and um they've given the lowest bid, so we want to go with that. The uh bids or the quotes are attached to the document there. We'll do be doing our own salting in house and so we're recommending Diamond Green and Gripes for snow removal. >> Thank you, Dr. Evans. And we have a motion and a second for item 6.2 for discussion and voting. >> I move for the passage of item 6.2, snow removal. >> Second move by Mr. Book, seconded by Mr. Goodman. Questions about snow removal. >> I noticed that the Indiana Earth wasn't attached. Uh was that just because >> uh yeah I just did the lowest ones. Indiana Earth was uh were higher than Diamond Green. Uh we also had another

038bid I believe from another vendor that was even much higher than that. So I just attached the ones uh that we were recommending. >> Is there any like other people that we know that are using or other entities that are using the diamond green to make sure that they're >> We did not ask for references. Possibly I should have, but I did not ask for references for diamond green. >> I think we talked about it last year, but I don't remember what the answer was for the discussion. What was the reason for splitting between two? >> It It's a lot, and we haven't found anybody who uh well, I think we did have one vendor who gave us a price for all of it, but it was almost double what the other ones were. Okay.

039>> Um, so Kes has done a good job for us. They always come in as the lowest bid and it's just worked out that we split them in the past three years. >> I can be safe like like crap for example could not handle our big schools right they wouldn't have had the equipment like the high school and the junior high the intermediate require much different type of equipment. I think my last question would have been um with Kripes he specifies what happens when you have over four inches. Uh with the other one it's all based on one to three. They have an hourly rate for the cleanup or for any additional cleanup. I think that's what it is. And then they have the payload or hourly rate but they don't really specify what happens

040if it's more than three inches. >> Right. And so we what we did is we looked, okay, we've been lucky the past couple of years. We haven't had any blizzards or anything like that. So we're assuming that that's not going to be too much of a cost. We we'll see what happens. >> Okay. And then who's in charge? Their bid didn't include sidewalks and maintenance drives. >> Uh that would be our custodians and our maintenance sta staff do the sidewalks. >> Okay. >> And the salting. questions, other comments, questions from board members. I guess the only question I have and it's just more it's a wait and see. You know, Diamond C is not local, so you know, just want to make sure that, you know, hopefully they perform and if not, we just take

041note of it. So, you know, they're out for W. It's an unknown. So, >> would they actually be driving from Fort Wayne to here every time there's snow or they >> I was under the impression they had a local uh connection. I didn't didn't think we were coming from Fort Wayne for this. >> And they might I I just saw their corporate address was Fort Wayne. That's what I was referencing to that. So, >> I wouldn't think they would they would want to drive that far either. >> Yeah. Anything else for board members? Ready to vote? Okay, we have a motion and a second on the floor. All those in favor, please raise your hand and say I. >> I. Same call. Same. Passes 60. >> Thank you. >> So, if they don't follow through,

042Bob is going to plow for us. Correct. >> Yeah. Got a big snow shovel, right? >> Got a pickup truck. >> I got a truck. Don't know about a snow plow. All right. And now moving on to discussion items here. So item 7.1, school board member compensation and predium. Mr. Deoce, take it away, sir. >> Yeah. Uh, Mr. President, board, I know uh this is something that I was interested in looking at. I felt like if I waited for you all that nothing would happen. No offense, but this is about a resolution establishing schoolboard member compensation and PDM. And I think it's uh uh what I'm asking for is for you to consider uh you would be the group that would approve your own raises, so to speak. Uh but uh the legislation came through

043and increase the amount of pay that we can pay schoolboard members. So uh it went up to 10 10% of the uh lowest teacher pay that we have. And for our teacher pay, it's over $50,000 for beginning teacher. So we just went 10%. My recommendation is that as part of this resolution that I'm going to ask you to approve later, not today. Uh I just want to have some discussion about it is that we look at the three different areas that uh we can pay board members according to the Indiana code. and that is uh the annual compensation which I'm recommending we set at $5,000 annually and then a per DM per board meeting of a full board session of $100 per meeting and then if there are committee meetings uh I'm recommending $50 for

044a committee meeting uh for your attendance at those meetings. Um the I I I I think last time I talked to you all about it's been probably since the 1980s when uh they said well let's put it I think $2,000 that they could pay you and some potential other things that our board has never taken that were opportunities for the board to uh participate in. But u so I think this is very reasonable and I just thought well I'm going to bring it to you guys with my recommendation. Thank you for that presentation. I guess board members initial thoughts on what is in front of us at the moment for discussion tonight. >> Are all the uh the board costs out of the education fund or what does that >> operations >> which is potentially

045what's getting hit? It's potentially what's going to be hit in the future. The operations is what's getting that. >> Yeah. >> Well, we never know. It could be education if we lose 300 kids, but it's operations for taxes. >> How does how does our I mean, I I realize we're talking it's not very much money, but just in general with what your considerations and costs are, how does it all fit with the longer term plan? >> Um, I think, you know, it's like everything, and I was trying to maybe I shouldn't have been joking about it, but Um, I think we need to keep our eyes in the future where we go ahead, but I think we as long as we look ahead, we can make some some differences. You might notice we had 18.5

046million. So, I'm not really >> I realize in this grand scheme of thing, it's it's we're not talking about the larger funds. I get that. I don't know why you guys do it for $2,000 with me tonight. >> No comment, Bob. >> You speak for us all, right? Just kidding. >> The one comment I'll at least say, um, so currently we have the right to take a PDM and we do not. Um, so that would be something that would be new to board members. >> Y >> that can be set. It's always existed. It's just that has never been considered in my time and I think in previous times. So that's something to to consider. Um is that needed or not needed? So you know I think that's something we need to consider there because

047you know we meet what 16 times a year as a board that right >> 21. Okay. So I mean just you do the math there. You have on top of that and then on top of additional committee meetings. So I mean um >> what are the committee meetings? That's not the the little tiny committees that we're all sitting on to represent. You're talking about like uh a committee to discuss policies. >> I think that would have to be um determined what it does because by the statute it could be it would be any meeting that we would attend on behalf as a school board member. So it could be a redevelopment, it could be a foundation, it could be a part that you agree with that, Roger, >> right? I think that needs to be

048clarified because we're all about when I >> assume I will get paid for that, but I think that needs to be. >> Yeah, I would agree. it. Perfect. Actually, it was perfect. Yeah. So, I think we would have to if that's something we want to put in there, we have to really define exactly what would be covered or not covered, >> right? >> I think it's broad right now. >> Right. >> So, the goal, just so you know, is trying to get this done in time so we could start this January 1 of 26. So, if if that would put us a little behind the schedule, you could There's no requirement. You have to take the whole package that I'm presenting. You could mix and match. >> Do you have any sense of what the

049other districts are thinking of doing? >> Um, I did a little Google search and talked to some people. I think almost everybody's going to go up to like the MAC maximum the annual compensation and then the PDM I think that you can do just for certain meetings. It's a little hard to tell but it looked like they were doing like$1red or $112 per meeting of the board as a whole and then some were doing committee meetings and some weren't. >> Yeah, the committee meetings is is interesting because some of us will have more more meetings, monthly meetings like Mario and some of us we have only three or four meetings per year. Um, so it varies, right? >> Correct. Yeah. Is that right? >> It would be easier to budget for when we know we

050have one of these whole board meetings that that's the other one's going to be a little hard to tell on the meetings. I almost want to do just for the whole meeting as a whole and bypass the other mediums and just not get paid for that. Maybe make this Yeah. 100 that would be I mean it's all negotiable but it's just my thought. I I share actually the very same thought as yourself, but I mean the per meeting fee is not I don't feel it's necessary, you know, especially the committee one. I mean, I didn't I didn't do this for compensation in the end, but um yeah, I mean that's I mean it's it I appreciate you putting the first draft together. it comes up to us to, you know, decide where we want to

051land on it. But I think that's where we need each board member to look at it and get a feel of where your investment is in this. So, I think it's it's not we shouldn't be ashamed to say we shouldn't be considering something. Let's make sure it's balanced, right? >> And I was I would >> It was a little confusing. I think Bob and I both were looking into this. What's the maximum we can pay you per meeting? And I think we were see was it you >> Yeah. So, wasn't it No, no. Per meeting rate. I think it was $112. 118 was the maximum we were seeing. We thought it was in CO, but then somebody's paying more than that. So, but it's that's kind of we we'll have to clarify the maximum amount.

052I'm sure the $100 is under the maximum amount for just a regular board meeting. So, Just a thought coming from my perspective of having a young family. Um it cost me a lot to be on the board. So, I I've definitely had to take off a lot of time from school and so or not, I'm sorry, not from school, from work to be involved in it and in trying to get maybe more families with kids in the future to run for schoolboard positions where it's going to take away from their family time. It's going to potentially cut into work. Maybe they're not as far along in their careers where, you know, they're salaried and it doesn't really matter because there's no cost. Um it was especially at the beginning it was really rough. Um with

053the amount of time that I had to spend doing the schoolboard things and I've had two kids born since the school board started and other things like that. It's not like it's just a run in the park and you show up at board meeting. You go home and you're done. So that's something I would say that even thinking going forward for trying to encourage people to step up and run if they're going to be a good board member. It takes a lot of time agree with my perspective. >> Any other initial thoughts? shaking. >> You know, it's one of those things that, you know, our time is going to be over one way or another, you know. >> Correct. >> And we want to set it up so that uh future community members can can

054run and and and participate. >> I would encourage you to think that way, Jose, that >> it's not about you all. >> It's going to be the next board or the next board >> that we want to make that, you know, no one is going to do run for the board for the money. Even at this 5,000 and let's say it's $100 per meeting, no one's going to say, "Well, oh great, I'm going to make a lot of money." It's kind of like our coaches and people do extracurricular things. Uh they put in so much time by time you figure out it's like 50 cents an hour and you guys be in probably the 25 cents to 50 cents an hour group, too. Uh when you get done with your being on a board. So,

055it's not about money and no one would accuse you of that or at least I would argue with them if they did. Um, but it is about that future board like what's what's fair for, you know, for 25 plus, well, more than that, 40 40 years or something like that. They haven't changed the amount that they pay the board. Um, and it seems very reasonable to me. So, Okay. Well, I guess I I would ask the board think about this. If we want to maybe see some adjustments before we bring it back as an action item, we can write it differently as we present it probably at our second meeting in the month here or if you want to leave it as is and then we amend it as we want to discuss it. We

056have a lot of options here. Um but we'll put it on for the next discuss. >> September. >> Yeah, we might want to change that. We'll move it to discussion till we get better feedback from the board after you guys contemplate a little bit and come back and then we can >> you know again the goal is so we can enact this to start for January one. >> What's the deadline for that >> just before January? Is there a particular part? >> I don't think it would be I think once we do that uh it's just the documentation that Bob and his team would have than to pay the board >> December Okay, >> that that >> all right >> concludes everything on that part of it. >> We're halfway through the meeting now. >>

057I kid I kid, I'm sorry. All right, we are actually at item eight, which is closing items tonight. Any miscellaneous administrative items? >> We have three items from the administrative team. One, collective bargaining open today at noon. Formal negotiations begin negotiations begin September 15th. Um board members, uh Dr. Medcaf and I will be attending the ISBAs fall conference next week. I think >> a lot of us are >> a lot of you are. Okay. So it' be fun uh to get down there and learn some more stuff about how to serve the community better. Always interesting information as part of the cycle of improvement that I like to look at. get the board engaged on thinking about next fall at that meeting and then we'll finish up our conversations uh this fall on what the

058direction is for next fall. So, um and then our next board meeting will be Monday, September 22nd. Board members, anything to bring up this evening that was not on the agenda? Actually, I I've got one question and it I could probably Google this, but I'm just curious because we're discussing that. Um, I've seen a couple of board members from other school boards that talk about some type of schoolboard retreat. What are they doing on those? >> Like it almost makes >> a work session. >> So, they're probably just >> I know we've never done something like that. I'm not asking that we do it. I was curious what they're doing, why they're doing it. And and I don't know if it would be similar to even when we had our financial kind of training. I

059mean, I think you can call it different things. >> You can call it different things. Okay. >> Unless they're doing like a full day and then they're just going >> sometimes they they'll do like a strategic planning session. They'll bring in a facilitator from the outside and do a big process with the board. Um and or it could be just education where it could be, hey, we're going to really dig into learning about the budget impact like the meeting we had in regards to learning about uh people came in and talked to us about tax rates and all how that's going to work in Senate Bill one and trying to learn about that. Uh it could be that as well. >> I'll say it I guess the first year or two I was on the

060board we did have a I've drawn a blank who came in often times Roger >> it was Ventures Ventures Ventures International. >> Yeah. And we did I would say big bigger thought development of where we thought the district should go. I would say that was we did those in sessions every so often but we kind of moved away from that did more internal stuff that was an example. >> Yeah, we we did some type of personality assessment assessments so we all knew we were >> was fun learned something about your colleagues that way. >> All right. Anything else from the board tonight? If not, I'll take a motion for adjournment, please. >> Motion for adjournment. >> Motion second. >> Second. All in favor, please say I. >> I. We're thank you all very much. Keith

061that made

This transcript may contain errors introduced by automated or source-provided captioning. Bracketed descriptions such as [Music] are retained from the source. Passage divisions are editorial aids and do not alter the wording.