001E2 Gowanda HS Library: No, okay, let's call a meeting order. Oh, yeah. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Consideration motion to accept the agenda back in. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I've never said that. Yeah, we're we're Kathy today? Who said what? E2 Gowanda HS Library: I was the 1st you were okay, Jack Sue. Thank you. Okay. E2 Gowanda HS Library: All in favor. Aye, aye, opposed. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Okay, thank you. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Okay. So I got the right mouse. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So, Chris, I think you were, though you weren't here last week. You were having a nice vacation. It was 85 every day. It was beautiful. Good for you. So with each of the packets I just kind of give a memo highlighting what we have in the packet. So last
002week we went over last workshop. We went over revenues and the 1st part of the budget, which is our general support. We did that transfers. And now I'm kind of getting the rest of the meat. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So there's still it's still kind of early. There's certain things that I'm still working on. So as we go through this, just things to think about, I do need to. It's not really part of today's discussion. But we talked about pre-purchasing some of Rich's equipment. So I'll have to reduce the budget for that. I'm waiting on the Sro budget. I do need to double check utilities. I know some of the rates have gone up. I want to make sure we're E2 Gowanda HS Library: in that area. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We'll talk about the
003transportation and the contracted transportation. I had not increased it. Everyone was off last week, so I didn't really get a chance to kind of talk to Annette and Janine at the same time to see where we are, with transportation for the special, especially for the special Ed kids, and then the Boce Special Ed. E2 Gowanda HS Library: the health insurance rates. I'm not going to get them till March 7th E2 Gowanda HS Library: preliminary is they're increasing 10%. But we have 4 different tiers, so they don't always increase the same. So between single family E2 Gowanda HS Library: employee and spouse and employee and children. Sometimes rates are different. So I'm hoping I can kind of get a hold of someone that can give me some inclination of how to adjust those, because I think
004the next full budget is April or March 12th is at our next meeting, so I'm working on those, and then we'll there's Jcc. We've always talked about our dual and old kids who take Jcc. Costs so previously that didn't cost the district anything. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But, as you can imagine. I think you've heard. Certainly some of the community colleges are struggling between enrollment and their costs, so they are going to be charging through boces. So E2 Gowanda HS Library: a portion of the cost for next year. So I'm working on that as well. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We're still sorting that out, I think, for next year it's only around $10,000, but year 2. It increases to around 33. I think it was. But I know that's something that we've we've talked a
005lot about is a good. So it's not like we want to get rid of it. It's just I'm trying to figure out what the cost is. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I think a lot of our students definitely benefit from it. They do. Yeah, they do, indeed. I know my kids did. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then today we'll just talk about the buses, because we'll need to know for the buses. Annette wants to buy 3 big buses and one small bus wheelchair bus, and then we would get rid of the same amount. This would be probably the last year we might be able to buy emission buses. Basically, if they don't change, push out the date. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then, because we need to know that to include it in the budget, notice
006and then employees retirement system, the rates, those employees continue those rates continue to increase. So those are for our non teachers. Basically, anybody who's not certified is in the employees retirement system. The teachers retirement system actually had a slight decrease. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then there's the E2 Gowanda HS Library: health insurance rates, and that was just kind of a summary of everything. I gave you the summary of everything. I'm kind of still working on. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So then just the summary here, I kind of just lumped them into this summary, this 1680, that's all paid to boces, and I had not. Darling Christopher is our representative now. E2 Gowanda HS Library: day of the Board meeting last week or last time. So we went through everything. That's really a lot of
007our supporting technology systems and software. So I did increase that amount based on what basically, the cost increases. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that's what that amount is. And then E2 Gowanda HS Library: everything else is down here. So admin and improvement. So 2010 is your curriculum department. And again, we'll go through the detail behind all this. But this is just a summary. So there's summer days that the E2 Gowanda HS Library: technology specialists, that those that tosas that they would do. And we used to grant fund those. But now those. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So I had to move some of those days back into the general fund. E2 Gowanda HS Library: On the 2020 is your supervision regular school. So it's your principals, assistant principals, clerical staff E2 Gowanda HS Library: inside those
008offices. So there were. So we've kind of talked about internally. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The Student Service coordinator at the elementary school. She is certified in guidance. The guidance counselor is retiring. E2 Gowanda HS Library: so the Student Service Coordinator would like to go back to guidance. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and the recommendation of the team is to replace that coordinator with an assistant principal. They could also be shared a day needed at the middle school, but, as we know, 2 of the 2 of the principals are retiring soon. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So I think, yeah. So I think as we looked to kind of as we transition, and I know that Ashley Ashley is very sick today. Ashley has some kind of other points as to what the assistant principal would be needed,
009for I mean, they are building with the most students. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But I mean right? Right now we have. The ratio is about one for the elementary school, about 1, 430 E2 Gowanda HS Library: students administrator. The students in the High school. Middle school is about one and a half to 2 50. So that would equal out the ratio. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We have about 30% of our new staff post E2 Gowanda HS Library: probationary requires a lot of supervision. E2 Gowanda HS Library: the university can not only help with letters training which is essentially literacy initiatives in New York State, but also instructional support operation E2 Gowanda HS Library: that could really E2 Gowanda HS Library: really allow the principal to focus on instructional leadership. So I think sometimes when people
010think of the Ap. It is in part discipline, but there's a lot of other things that the person would be doing down there but for one principal to operate that building, the number of they're the most teachers down there. Most students. It's just a lot to ask, and they're really our most sensitive. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I'll say vulnerable population. But they are. I mean, that's really where the bang. E2 Gowanda HS Library: If students can't read by second grade, you've got some trouble coming down the pipeline behavior problems which they're E2 Gowanda HS Library: a lot academic problems. So it would be very beneficial to us. And we're going to offset that. Well, Ftes aren't necessarily changing. So the person currently commenting is moving into a position. We're also got 5 other retirees down
011there which E2 Gowanda HS Library: not necessarily planning on reporting or replace them either. So there should be some savings there. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, a total of ftes is not a change. So right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: I'm not mistaken. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Years ago we changed David Smith's position to. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I mean, they're just principals now. Yeah, we can ship them to whatever school we need. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Is that a consideration rather than being an assistant principal? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Can we make a change. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I mean, that's kind of like what David Smith is E2 Gowanda HS Library: should think there are 3 principles around. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I mean we we have. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We have 4
012right now. E2 Gowanda HS Library: He's an assistant. He's an assistant. Yeah, a seniority shared between the middle school and high School seniority wise. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So he is the most senior principal. So seniority he'd be the last to go in terms of layoffs, but he's he's in the assistant principal, I think. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Don't look at them away. Screwed the whole thing, but E2 Gowanda HS Library: he's assistant principal 5, 7, 12, right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: That's what his role is. But what is his actual title? E2 Gowanda HS Library: I mean, we have him as assistant principal. Yeah, I don't know. His tenure is, it could be building principle here. Of course. E2 Gowanda HS Library: we shifted him down years ago. E2 Gowanda HS Library: He's not
013that far from retirement, either, so I think we're kind of trying to look for kind of building the future and making sure we have enough staff for E2 Gowanda HS Library: the future. Right? But I'm saying, you're looking for an assistant principal. E2 Gowanda HS Library: like someone that's in step up or E2 Gowanda HS Library: move to one of the other spots. Well, possibly maybe some of their benefit package remains the same. There's no reduction. Sure, we could do something like that. I just don't know if anybody is. You know, currently E2 Gowanda HS Library: about this time next year people have. You know, we're looking at potentially, I mean, I can't speak for other people's plans, but you know we have a few administrators that are 3 of them I can think of
014that. Are, you know. E2 Gowanda HS Library: the other question I had was on buses. Does it make sense, or I don't know what our transportation reserve is right now. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Is it possible to buy a 4th bus? But we still can't buy a make sense. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Okay, she's doing E2 Gowanda HS Library: 4 big bus. Oh, 4 big buses. So load up. Now, that's what I was going to ask you. This is a strategy. Yeah. And even, I mean, if we look at E2 Gowanda HS Library: You know her buses. E2 Gowanda HS Library: She's I'm sure she but there's this one's only 6 years old. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's got 93,000. I know she's got some that she's been having a lot of trouble this year
015with some of the bodies that needed more repairs. So certainly if I asked her if there was another one that she wanted, even if we didn't replace one necessarily, but bought a 5th one E2 Gowanda HS Library: the that would make her day, probably E2 Gowanda HS Library: next year alone probably have 3 more right? It's just coming up Diesel again, which we're not currently. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And I'm not sure what the the did we ever determine. If it was like January 27, or E2 Gowanda HS Library: like the 2627 year. That was, I know. That was one of the questions that we had on the timing. E2 Gowanda HS Library: because technically. E2 Gowanda HS Library: we'd be buying it. It's still in 26. So we'd probably be okay. But if they
016get backlogged, then it'd be 27 when I would be like compared to a date of arrival. Right? Yeah. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And if I guess to that point you wouldn't pay them until it arrived. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So you bought it. If you're technically buying, I don't know, and we don't know the intricacies of that, because I don't. They never really say it's not like specified. It's officially fake. Yes, it is, and we still keep hoping it gets pushed out. Yeah, we'll look into it for sure. We put the deposits down on several of them and then receive them. Yeah, I'm sure we can figure something out. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's encumbered. As long as it's encumbered we'll issue the Po. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So yes, I will look into the
017amount in the reserve mark and talk to another. E2 Gowanda HS Library: what happened? E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that was our one kind of discussion on the supervision section. E2 Gowanda HS Library: the in training. So this is this in service, I know it's increasing 53%. So that is actually for a lot of the boces. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The elementary school is doing that letters training which I actually did spell out somewhere. Yeah. So letters there's E2 Gowanda HS Library: without getting the whole history of literacy. There's essentially a push for new literacy programs across the country, particularly New York. So letters is really an opportunity for us to retrain our teachers in their earlier grades. They've been going through letter trainings. And there's a whole bunch of micro credentials and stuff. So
018people are updated with the science reading. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Get a little more in depth with you, but it's phonics and stuff. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Well, I'll let her explain it to you. Language essentials for teachers of reading and spelling. Yes, I wrote it out, because I knew someone probably is. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And Ashley's not here. So so yeah, between the training that they go to boces, and then they do curriculum work on their own. So that that amount is increasing. E2 Gowanda HS Library: teaching regular school. That's really just kind of a function. There's a lot of different lines that we can talk about. But it's the function of salary stipends subs textbooks. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's our alternative Ed tuition to boces that's in there. E2 Gowanda HS
019Library: the program fee. So the students with disabilities. I did need to talk to Janine again. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and she was out last week, and then she was sick, like everybody else. That was out last week, so I do need to make sure that this is sufficient for her. I'll just double check, especially on the boces piece, you know. One can show up in a $75,000, so we always try to make sure we have enough money. I think Bob could share the woes of. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, my friends, downstate. E2 Gowanda HS Library: they have some special Ed students that are costing $337,000. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So let's placements are where they are. Almost a residential placement for one. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's really expensive. Just tell me about
020nearly E2 Gowanda HS Library: $800,000 in 3 placements. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah. So that's why I always try to. I just. I want to revisit with Janine to make sure that I have enough transfers in. We notoriously have students who transfer in during the year that need a placement, and we've had trouble getting some of them placed. So we have some that are in district now still waiting for a placement. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So we know that those have to be accounted for someplace. And there's line item 2250. Yes, right? Yep. E2 Gowanda HS Library: When you say waiting for a placement again, because I'm new here E2 Gowanda HS Library: place that's like, for like a day program like, yes. So we don't have the capacity to do some of these programs.
021So we generally take to a Bocey site or a different place like school for the blind, right? So they only have so many seats available. So the kids that we have here in other school districts as well are in a holding pattern to see those outside placements becomes available. Then we'll send them out. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's a little bit, which is also a cost. Yeah, sure. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Right region wide for additional seats, for special E2 Gowanda HS Library: yeah. And each each private placement really specializes the private schools specialize in certain things for the kids. So you have to find the right match for the what the needs are and what their IP says. So. E2 Gowanda HS Library: okay. Alright, that's good. Thank you. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The
022ell. This is our 1st time we've had an ell line. We have one student in the elementary. Who is Chinese. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Where do we find it? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Something to speak to Chinese to teach them? E2 Gowanda HS Library: So somebody comes in and gives them bilingual services. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that's new this year and then oced is, that's all of our ptech and cte tuition we are. We do have a slight decline in the, I guess. Better how to spell the P-tech enrollment. Cte is actually up in tuition, and the P-tech is down E2 Gowanda HS Library: summer school teaching summer schools. This one is going up so previously. Remember, a lot of our summer school was paid for in the Grants. E2 Gowanda HS Library: but
023I had kept it in the budget. But we really are, the major increases. We're trying to expand some of it. So we want to offer an 8th grade summer school for Ela and Math. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We're trying to look at a little bit of an additional special Ed, E2 Gowanda HS Library: ais kind of stuff at the elementary school. So that's kind of the reason that's increasing. And also, I think this kind of highlights. If we hadn't budgeted at all like we knew we were going to fund summer school and the Grants, and I'd taken all of that out. That's where you get that roller coaster, which is why we don't do that, because then our increase would have been even more so. We kept some of it in there, knowing that eventually
024it was going to come back to the general fund. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Can you expand on Pt. For Ptech and Cte. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The Sct. Is career technical education. Those generally are our sites at the centers, our primary centers. We do send kids to carrier and a few, and the p-tech is I can't remember what the acrony stands for, but there's 2 sites that operate in our area. There's 1 site at Dunkirk, one site in Springville. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and the one in Dunkirk, associated with Jcc. For advanced manufacturing. Springville is with Alfred State or Alford State. So students really choose to go to those programs at the end of their 8th grade year, and they generally do their entire high school career at those locations. And then they slide into
025E2 Gowanda HS Library: Dunkirk program. They slide right into a social security program, and they have job placement at some local manufacturer E2 Gowanda HS Library: outside same thing with the Springville PP tech E2 Gowanda HS Library: their computer thing. So we've been pretty robust. The struggle that we've had with that is, it's really tough to have an 8th grader commit for 6 years, you know, because once you're in, you're in, and it's difficult. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So we've had some success. But E2 Gowanda HS Library: it's kind of blamed a little bit of popularity, because I think not really sure. Most is new and 8th grader. Really, what you want to do? Right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Good. Good. Good programs E2 Gowanda HS Library: aren't a lot of jobs in that area.
026I mean, absolutely. Do we push anything out to like the families to, because I don't remember ever hearing about that. And is that something newer? I guess that's why I don't remember hearing about it? Probably not. When your kids were here, it started. I think the 1st group of kids E2 Gowanda HS Library: there were 2015, 2016. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But yeah, the middle school. They they do full court press, you know, get information out. They go through a whole interview process and E2 Gowanda HS Library: information process in the interview process. All information important. You want to make the right informed decision. And even those kids who choose to go. Still. E2 Gowanda HS Library: you know, it's going to come back. So E2 Gowanda HS Library: do we have a per percentage
027of completion on those students. We do, but not handy. I do. Yeah, but not handy. Sorry. No, it's okay. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I mean, quite honestly, it's probably not as good as you'd hope. It's probably I don't want to. It's not as high as I'd wish for the price that we pay. What happens when they do drop off. Do they come back here? Yeah, they'll come back here. There's maybe one or 2 that dropped out entirely, but E2 Gowanda HS Library: for the most part they come back here, but the dropout can happen their senior year right? Yeah. It could. Well, at the end of their senior year, because the 2 year additional is actually on their own E2 Gowanda HS Library: after high school. Right? Yes. Well, it's still part of the program,
028but not all of them go to the next 2 years, and that's still considered a drop or a drop from the program. Right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: We find all security. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Oh, dear, that's good. What happens then? If they don't like. Well, we only fund it each year they're in it. Okay, if they drop out we don't get charged for them. They used to still charge us for the whole year. But it's great for the families. It's really good. But again, if you know, students choose to go, they drop out. E2 Gowanda HS Library: missed that slot, for someone may have been able to fill that slot. You can't jump in 11th grade or 12th grade, and then I don't want to say the money's wasted, but it's you know, it's
029a lost opportunity for somebody else. Right? So that's that's, I think, from a principal's perspective, even our perspective. It's just when they were created at that age. But it's E2 Gowanda HS Library: you know, if you're really into it and you stick with it. The outcomes are pretty significant. Yeah, block out the social degree, a high school diploma and a reasonable job, right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: And they make their decisions early. E2 Gowanda HS Library: You have to go pick one way or the other. That's too bad. If you don't like it. Is it a cost analysis that could be done? E2 Gowanda HS Library: To how many students are actually taking advantage of that. I guess E2 Gowanda HS Library: we only have a like. We have 11 in them, $24,000 a student,
030I mean, skated E2 Gowanda HS Library: is there able avenues that we could go. That would actually put it back into the building here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: like in the capital improvements for us E2 Gowanda HS Library: offering programs here. Yeah, you mean, they have well, thanks for us. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah. Well, no, I mean, I think the answer is yes, but then it comes down. Yes, to answer your question, but then you know, you have to have someone teaching it. Then you have the equipment, the space. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then really, what is the interest? You know the student population that would drive that program. You have 2 kids here, whereas if you have, like Bose Site or those sites, we have 2 from the school districts school, you
031know. Extra program. So E2 Gowanda HS Library: yes, with some caveats, we wouldn't have the college set up, either. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, we would have partnership. We wouldn't have like the college affiliation. Right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: I have another kind of related question to that sort of thing. So we used to E2 Gowanda HS Library: send students off site for, like Oss. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Did we not like that long time ago. E2 Gowanda HS Library: not out of school that we had to pay for. Yeah, we don't do that. I know we don't now, but we did. We not used to do that, though? Well, since I've been here we've never really done it, and I think the practice stops E2 Gowanda HS Library: before I even arrived. E2 Gowanda
032HS Library: We end up putting our money into our internal suspension room. Down here we had a monitor, and it seemed better that students for some kids it's costly to send them out of school for now suspension, then for some kids. It's kind of a vacation right? We just felt it was better to keep them here right. Keep them under our thumb and make them work unless they're really egregious behavior issues. That's how we handled it so I can't think of the last time we sent anybody out for I just I wondered what E2 Gowanda HS Library: I thought that that wasn't happening that way anymore. And yeah, that makes more sense to just keep them in. Yeah, they hate it, which is great. That's the idea. Both are here, we can make sure, you
033know. Get their studies done. Your son did both E2 Gowanda HS Library: all right. E2 Gowanda HS Library: see summer school we were on to so school library, and AV, so this is just say we do play boces for the some of the stuff for the library, and then there's the tosa that we kind of talked. E2 Gowanda HS Library: She's really in the high school library and spends. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I felt it was more appropriate to charge her. Her salary there to refer to physically is located and working attendance. There's really nothing that's just salaries. In there. E2 Gowanda HS Library: think, and then I don't. Oh, maybe some of the E2 Gowanda HS Library: sure that's just salary. Oh, I know, because we changed staff again. Then guidance, guidance, psychological and
034social workers. They all have summer days. On the guidance. In particular, we increased the number of days. So that's a partial part of the reason that that's up in our increased and then on the E2 Gowanda HS Library: health services. We do pay for health exams, and then we also have to pay for health services to nonpublic students in other districts. So, for example, today we had West Seneca. There's 2 of our students attending a Catholic school in West Seneca. We pay this West Seneca school district for the health services they provide to those students. So those costs have increased over the years. So I had to increase that budget as well. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then psychology. Oh, we had, we did add, for an intern for the psychology. So we know that
035our elementary school psychologists E2 Gowanda HS Library: period is retiring next year. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So Janine had mentioned that other school districts were trying to have interns in their district, so that possibly they're able to hire them when they need them, because it's not another. It's another shortage area. So we budgeted for it. I don't know if we will get one, but it was worth a shot to try that approach, get a good one so it can entice them. And then hopefully, they, you know, work out. E2 Gowanda HS Library: What else did you know? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, all these areas are, you're just not getting into them. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The pupil transportation. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So the savings, the decrease that you see, is really just mostly
036from savings, from retirements and changeovers over there. And then this the contract transportation. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Think I'm gonna all I'm gonna have to increase that. So E2 Gowanda HS Library: I looked at it. So 25% of what we spend on transportation does go to the native American transportation which is paid for in the grant. So all year we charge everything to the general fund, and then we move it to get reimbursed from the State. So in looking at the contract amount, so we have 1,000,170 E2 Gowanda HS Library: 1,000 budgeted. I'm projecting that after we in total contracts, we have about a million one, but 25% of that's going to go to the native American transportation. So I'm still going to spend, probably just under 900,000 in the general fund this year. E2
037Gowanda HS Library: One contract alone, if we ever have to add, one is a hundred $60,000. I don't feel that that's enough of a cushion quite frankly, because we've been adding and adding contracts all this this year. So we've had a lot of Mckinney-vento. They're not necessarily for the whole year, but even one of those every time we add one? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah. So they're homeless students. So they have school choice or require the transport that transport them within a mile radius. So we have students that are homeless, that live in Jamestown, and we don't know what's going to happen. So you know, just plan. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, like, one of those was $94,000. E2 Gowanda HS Library: our highest contract this year was 1 54, but the daily rates are
038$850, and they keep just going up. So I think I'm going to have to at least assume there's another run in there and it. And again, that also depends on how many bus drivers we have. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and it's not the same math, right? It's not $160,000 for one room for one kid. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But I just feel like we better. We're better off having a cushion there the one year we were $800,000 short. E2 Gowanda HS Library: right after Covid, because we didn't anticipate having all those placements, and then we did E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that's I had to revisit that I wanted to. That was what I wanted to revisit with Annette and Janine, so E2 Gowanda HS Library: that will. Probably that will change. E2 Gowanda HS
039Library: and then everything else is just our French benefits, which I kind of touched upon at the beginning E2 Gowanda HS Library: transfers we talked about last time. I just included everything in here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that's the summary. And then this is the detail. With all these accounts. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I don't really necessarily have to read everything to you again. I tried to put the major changes in the summary sheet, and then I tried to explain things in here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: you know, as like a little bit more in detail, so I don't know if you if there's anything you want to pro focus on, if you have any questions in particular. E2 Gowanda HS Library: you know, this is just a lot of it is just so.
040The salaries instructional salaries basically are because we know our contract is expired. So we've projected the people with their salary, their steps, and then a salary increase because we don't know what it is. Everyone else is projected that they're kind of their normal salary increase. You'll see a lot of times even during the year. I think I probably need to do a budget transfer E2 Gowanda HS Library: this year is the teaching assistants and teaching aides tend to move and change a lot of times. We have a harder time finding an assistant. So then we end up with some teaching aids. I know we just hired a couple more. So then they're in a different line. So because teaching assistants are instructional, so they have a 1 5 optic code here. Your non instructional staff
041is going to be in the one sixes. So those are. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's kind of moving between accounts. So a lot of times you'll see that movement. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's not that we're having less. It's just they're moving around E2 Gowanda HS Library: the school's budget. So 0. 1 is elementary school. So if you look at these 2, digit 5 is middle school, and 6 is high school. Those budgets I get directly E2 Gowanda HS Library: staff to give me kind of what their their needs are for the following year. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's a lot of budget accounts, but we have to report by school E2 Gowanda HS Library: for certain things. So the one thing I did change in the 2250. So this is special. Ed is Janine's
042always giving me the count of the special Ed teachers. But then there's her speech teachers. So in order for us. E2 Gowanda HS Library: we I broke the speech out to a different line. It's for our E2 Gowanda HS Library: this big change here. So we have a deaf military school, and we they recommended on our Iep that we add an interpreter for her. So we contract out. I think it's with people. Inc, that. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So that's what that increases. E2 Gowanda HS Library: These are the private placements. So I guess so we're going. These are all the ones we go to now. Falk, Randolph Academy, both Randolph and Hopedale. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Well, Hamburg, and then Saint Mary's autistic services. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And there's more than one fault.
043There's at least 2 E2 Gowanda HS Library: these 2. So we're going to different locations. So cancel waiting placements E2 Gowanda HS Library: this is. And then the summer I did the same thing kind of, for my own sanity, too, was to break out for summer school. E2 Gowanda HS Library: How much at each school? Because we do, I mean, obviously, when we do payroll, we have them by each school. We just have never tracked them that way primarily because they've been on the Grants the last few years. So I tried to break out what I thought would be spent in each different school, and we are adding back the 13th period in the middle school. Todd feels that that's advantageous. So we're adding that back as well. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Again. That was
044the addition of the portion of the towards live 3. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, proportional, because it basically grant funded there E2 Gowanda HS Library: and then this is all Bosi services again. E2 Gowanda HS Library: adding the 8th period back into like middle school. E2 Gowanda HS Library: What page was that 13th period? Yeah, that's in the 2330. So that's page 5 on here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: fair enough. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And that's just from adding that. E2 Gowanda HS Library: how do I guess? I how does that work, Jose? Especially mandatory after school. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Okay? E2 Gowanda HS Library: So because so we have to report right? So we, the state reports E2 Gowanda HS Library: K, 3, 4, 6, and 7, 12. Well, that's not how our
045schools go. So the 13th period I had to budget both in E2 Gowanda HS Library: in 4, 6, 7, 12. So yeah, sorry I get it. E2 Gowanda HS Library: It's yeah. It's not ideal. When your schools don't align with that. But oh, there goes E2 Gowanda HS Library: general fund version of Special Ed Summer School, sure E2 Gowanda HS Library: in the transfer to the Grants. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So the the summer Handicap program is section 4,408 of Ed loss. So that's in the Grants. So we spend it in the grants. And then when we close it out, we have to send 20%, which is our which is considered what our contribution is. So that is down here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Oh, I don't have it on this. This pay, this detailed
046sheet. But in the we talked about it last week, the transfer to Special Aid Fund. So we take 20% of what our spend was and transfer it at year end. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But they also charge on E2 Gowanda HS Library: when they go into special Ed, they basically have a. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We have to have a spot for them, but we get reimbursed, based on actual attendance E2 Gowanda HS Library: in regular and the school year in the summer or in summer in summer. E2 Gowanda HS Library: That's why we're always short there. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Well, you know, it's we're not. Well, it's funny, is there's years we're short, and there's years we're over, because the way they reimburse us, they it's a it's based on the rate setting
047unit. So you submit all this data, and then they put it into something, and then they'll tell you what the rate is that you're going to get per student, basically. And then transportation is aided separately. But then comes in through that reimbursement. But it can be like 3 years later. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So the money that we're getting in one fiscal year is really related to other years. There's like one payment for the current year, and then the other payments are all E2 Gowanda HS Library: later and different amount. It's kind of a very convoluted system. Yeah, it's complicated that one's definitely complicated. And you don't know what your rate is. You just because you just run your program, you run what you program you need for the number of kids that you have
048and you transport them. And then later, you're going to figure out what you'll get back. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a. It's different. We're not paying like that in our jobs. E2 Gowanda HS Library: These. This is all kind of just a summary of what we talked about E2 Gowanda HS Library: beginning. I did touch on the nurses, the psychologists. E2 Gowanda HS Library: You can stop me if you have any questions. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and certainly, if you look at it just later, let me know. E2 Gowanda HS Library: This is kind of moving some of her salaries around. And again, a lot of these, this is from the retirement, but I also know that 25% of the total cost is going to be paid for in the grant. So
049I try to budget a little bit less in here, knowing that 25% is on the other side, where it gets more difficult is obviously the things that we don't know. Like the contract transportation. E2 Gowanda HS Library: 25% of what right. I mean, it's it's kind of that. One's that one's dangerous. It's dangerous to be wrong on the short side with the contract transportation. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and that's just these are all I am gonna when we when I finalize kind of the budget. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And certainly one of the things that we talked about with our controller friends is, you know, using the Eblar. Well, now that we know where we are financially, and we know that we this is a good time of this would be a good year to
050use the reserve. I probably also might use the Trs and Ers reserve. Certainly the Ers is increasing, but as the Trs is increasing because the salaries are increasing. So I'll spell that out when we put it all together. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But those are those are basically. And this is I was gonna run. I gotta run a show. I'll show you what the expenses are for, like the instructional retirement award. So last year was like 92,000. Well, this year we spent E2 Gowanda HS Library: a lot. So it just fluctuates so much that you don't know when and you don't know when people are going to retire when we're building a budget. Now, I don't know who's going to retire next June. So that's I think, the hard part of saying how much you're
051going to use. I can put a number out there. But ultimately it's just a guess, and it's a personal decision on what people retire. It's not like they're they have to go at a certain time. So I don't know who's definitely going to go. E2 Gowanda HS Library: That's that's it. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Explain a little bit. E2 Gowanda HS Library: New board board members regarding the E2 Gowanda HS Library: finances of retirement. When a teacher retires, and we basically give them that set that up incentive. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Why do we do that? Well, good question. There's 2 things that people after they complete their career here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Well, you gotta back up. So a teacher retires in the State of New York is eligible for retirement through the
052State teacher retirement system, which is not us. It's something different that we've contributed, but by law, or they have E2 Gowanda HS Library: but for us and their contractors E2 Gowanda HS Library: 2 things that a teacher could qualify for other units have something to do, an award or an incentive. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The incentive is basically only offered in a very narrow window of time, generally, when they're 1st eligible to retire where they hit some kind of milestone. Either they've got 30 years or they're 62. It's 55, and 30, or 62, or someplace. In there. The award is given. Any time they can retire any time. E2 Gowanda HS Library: incentive is a little more financially lucrative. It was designed initially, but it's been there some time, is technically, usually your retirees are
053your highest paid. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So the incentive style is to incentivize people to retire when they should, as opposed to hang out for longer. So, you know, if people have saved up their sick days, they've got some other calculations, I mean, people can retire. You know the substantial incentive to retire, and the rewards a bit less based on some of the calculations as well. E2 Gowanda HS Library: why we have incentive. It made sense, perhaps. E2 Gowanda HS Library: at least, in my opinion, years ago, when people wanted people maybe retire in a more modern context, I'm not really sure. If I want people to retire, I'm happy to retire. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not really eager for them to go. We lose a lot of expertise professionalism, and quite honestly,
054we can't even find people to replace them. So I'm no hurry to incentivize them to leave, although people go on their own. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and people are going to retire anyway, whether you incentivize them or not. So E2 Gowanda HS Library: I don't know why we have this. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I know why we put it in. Yeah, it makes sense, and it's a good benefit for employees. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And the rewards bit last. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And just so, you know, I explain that correctly. Yeah, yeah. On the just so you know, the teachers retirement. E2 Gowanda HS Library: What we pay is only on current salaries. So when people retire, they're drawing it from the retirement system that doesn't come from us just in case somebody was
055curious. The rate is set on current employees salaries E2 Gowanda HS Library: right? And it doesn't affect what we pay to the retirement. The rates are actuarially set, based on how much money they need statewide, basically because every school district pays the same percentage. E2 Gowanda HS Library: same with the retirement system. It's the employees retirement. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Any other questions. Comments have a comment, but not a question. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And some point between now and we deserve both me or something. Yeah. E2 Gowanda HS Library: some type of presentation to the Board regarding what ours guidance and social workers do. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Basically, we want to talk to the public about what our E2 Gowanda HS Library: or we fill basically our Sds E2 Gowanda HS Library: needs
056a social and emotional support systems. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I think we do a really good job. E2 Gowanda HS Library: But at the same time we have to remind people E2 Gowanda HS Library: that we do a good job because they most people have what we do actually do E2 Gowanda HS Library: there to support my students okay, makes it weird. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We're building support for our whole community. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah? And actually, it's funny I bring that up because we're looking at adding a service E2 Gowanda HS Library: cartwheel, I think it's called E2 Gowanda HS Library: that basically through the social work, high school, social work department would work, help work with families as well. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So we're we're using. We have Grant funds
057that we're going to try it out with to see how it works. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Go ahead. Get them here. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So yeah, that would be a good thing the board wants. That sure absolutely sounds good. Good idea. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Period. You basically start building your support for the budget. Yeah. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Oh, you're right. We don't think you. A lot of people outside of this room may not know they're very valuable. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Anything else did come up with anything. Don't hesitate to E2 Gowanda HS Library: let me know. You know, if that's our week in there, it's jump E2 Gowanda HS Library: terror. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I always like a plug full, so if they appear. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I don't
058know how many dollars to script you too. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Well, we we do 2 pots of money here. I mean, one is the Federal programs. It doesn't E2 Gowanda HS Library: look like the courts are letting them pull back money that's been awarded. E2 Gowanda HS Library: They've been stopped, but near future awards in the next year. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Impact aid is the big one. E2 Gowanda HS Library: There has not been awarded the other one here is is that E2 Gowanda HS Library: it sounds like you're going to play with the Medicaid numbers on the State level. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and the Medicaid numbers on the state level E2 Gowanda HS Library: are huge. If they change, make changes E2 Gowanda HS Library: because you're talking billions. There, that
059impact E2 Gowanda HS Library: state pass. Yeah, it's going to put a big hole in the state, aren't you? Yeah, I'm worried about the state. E2 Gowanda HS Library: There's the Medicaid, others the green buses. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah. Yeah. E2 Gowanda HS Library: Yeah. But at some point we need to talk about that E2 Gowanda HS Library: what our strategy would be, whether we're going to E2 Gowanda HS Library: big concert we're going to fill. For I think that's part of our strategy, too, for not necessarily replacing E2 Gowanda HS Library: all the retirements is kind of. We know there's some risk out there. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and it would help us be prepared if all of a sudden certain positions aren't funded. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And then I think we
060we could. I mean, we could always look at other areas right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: But I think that's probably number one reason why we kind of hold those positions in case they're needed. E2 Gowanda HS Library: And I think we have to E2 Gowanda HS Library: realize with this kind of budget. It's E2 Gowanda HS Library: you're probably gonna get your hands slapped again. E2 Gowanda HS Library: The controller. E2 Gowanda HS Library: That's correct. That's all right. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I worked there for 4 years. I know how it works. It's okay. Well, to that point. So our neighboring school districts aren't quite as in the position we are in terms of fund balance and reserves properly funded. They got their hands slapped for E2 Gowanda HS Library: yeah, I'd rather be
061in our position. Yeah. Several of my peers told me that they enjoyed the articles, and they said, I wish we were in your positions, because they don't know how they're going to balance their budgets. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and that that's not a problem that we are. I mean, we're fortunate, you know. I mean, they are laying off staff. And E2 Gowanda HS Library: we're not there. So colleagues, right? E2 Gowanda HS Library: Some ways. I mean, it's between administration and the board. We made a conscious decision that we weren't just gonna spend money. E2 Gowanda HS Library: and my one colleague friend is looking at 2.3 million dollar budget gap. Right now. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We cited well, one really losing state aid and then increase special entities. E2 Gowanda HS Library: You
062know the needs of students are increased across the State. You know, we're not unique to that. But then the resources in some respects are the star of the pitch. Can't generate money from the tax audit. The tax cap. E2 Gowanda HS Library: relying on state aid which is going to be in turn relying on. Probably medic, you know. Actually, Federal government. So yeah, clear comment E2 Gowanda HS Library: collectively worked really well last over years. E2 Gowanda HS Library: I don't want to have to cut the 2 point. E2 Gowanda HS Library: We're hard to be happy E2 Gowanda HS Library: consideration of motion to adjourn the budget workshop. E2 Gowanda HS Library: So again, with, Thank you. Oh, thanks, people, objected.