001All right. Great. All right. Thanks everybody. Uh uh Sean is not here today. Uh so Maline and I we will call the meeting to order. Um and we're good with public comment. >> Hoping to finish. >> Okay. Great. Um we will move on to item three which is approval of minutes. Uh given that we only have two members here, we can approve the minutes from December or we can move to approve the minutes from December 2025 work session. Um but we will table the um the vote for minutes on the January 6. >> Um do you approve the minutes away? >> All right. Um we have a long list of discussion items. Uh we might uh some of we'll we'll dive into some more than others especially since again Sean isn't here. Um the first
002policy is our school lunch policy. Um policy 5601. Um this is one of the policies that we came by um based on the um it was first developed in like 1976 and we saw that it was outdated and so have had the opportunity to um work with our leadership team that leads um all of our our nutrition work um and they have advised us on some of the language to be able to update it. It's a very sinful policy. It's really just stating that we um the board uh acknowledge and take advantage of the the federal school lunch programs. Um and that we intend to implement that in a way that it's um to serve all of the healthy foods that are provided by the district, but that we are not requiring students to take
003or eat those foods. um both to allow for for free choice and also to limit the amount of food that's wasted when the kids put them on the plates and don't want to eat them. Um have you had a chance to look at this the school lunch run? >> Have not obviously. >> Um >> it's only a few sentences if you want me to read if >> Yeah. >> Sure. Um, so the proposed language we have is the board of education of the Ethic City School District authorizes participation in a national school lunch and national school breakfast program in accordance with the most current USDA regulations. Uh, the district shall implement all offer um versus serve and all applicable nutrition eligibility and non-discriminatory requirements to ensure students receive healthy balance and balance. That's it. Um
004sir serve was more of a strict requirement. It's less stringent. Also we took the length the original policy from 1979 referred only to our middle schools. This refers to the entire district. >> And as we know right now we have a state policy that supersedes this anyway that's so that all students are getting free lunch. that this is just stating that at a bare minimum, the board of education is authorizing ICS to participate in in the National School of Affairs. And finally, um at this point, uh I spoke with Sean earlier today. We're in agreement, we would support sending it to the board. That's still only for our first reading, which means we underestimate the board could weigh in and make changes at that time. Would you support it? So, we'll make a motion to
005bring it to the full board meeting. >> December 10th. I'm sorry, December 10th. >> Um, can we double check? It's not such a priority there if we have a very long list of items, but to the next board meeting that we have open space in the agenda. >> Um, okay. The next policy, um, item 4.2 Two is policy 2245 which is the student exeicio members uh board member policy um which again is a new state level requirement uh to have at least one um exopicio student board member from both of the representative from both of the high schools. Um, we already had a policy in place. We're on the board. It became um, a state requirement, which we feel very proud about, but are excited about using this opportunity to strengthen that policy um, uh,
006and make it an even better experience both for the students themselves, not just the students who are sitting in the seats, but the full student fund um, at the various schools uh, schools as well as the best opportunity it can be for the board to be able to hear from from student bodies. Uh we have had many many back and forths on this already and are really grateful to our current student board reps for um weighing in a number of times. I know that some of the conversations that we have had have been kind of general and there's been a request I think really a mutual agreement that we needed something more concrete to be able to look at. Um and so I want to start by just apologizing that you guys were only sent
007this a couple of hours ago. Um uh but we're very excited to see all of you here. Um and um and would love to hear your thoughts to kind of kick things off um about different pieces within the policy that you support or would would advocate for changing and also things that you may not see there at all. Um so so hop right in. >> Uh just looking at it, it looks pretty good. Um I I think that the discussions we've had have led to a policy that seems pretty comprehensive to me. Um I don't really see any issues with it. Uh it so the policy doesn't need to cover elections. I understand and then election policies would be developed school by school. We we could decide to do that, but we I I think
008that at this point we have heard enough from you all about processes that you see as being pretty um functional already. I think that at least I mean I speak for myself, but you know, we've had conversations about making sure um that we're including language that I think we included in here more generally about what we want to make sure that you achieve that that a a candidate would achieve. And so we would hope that that would be worked into um them. So we don't so I at this point don't see a need to like influence the exact process but more make sure that like things are being um that topics are being touched on throughout that process. But >> for me at least and >> I believe for Jing as well. I don't know
009about you guys but I don't think we see any problems with the policy as it stands. I think that it looks I mean I only got to briefly look over it but um it does like I feel like it covers everything both from like from what both like adults and kids were saying about it. >> Um yeah, the only thing I was going to bring up was asking about stuff, but I feel like it seems fine. I think it seems like fair and like general specific enough for the stuff that we need, but isn't like so specific where it's like >> Sorry. No, that's great. Thank you. >> I have a couple questions. >> Yeah, I just have a chance to look at it and I think it's pretty good. So, yeah, >> I have
010a couple questions. Um, specifically it's like the position of exeicio schoolboard. That heading right there, that first paragraph you see before the participation guidelines where it kind of lays out how participation happen in not these meetings but a voting meeting more distinctly. >> I I like the idea of having a Oh, I just want to clarify with the standing committees thing. I counted five standing committees. Would that mean that you want a minimum of five or reps combined, I guess? >> And then that that could fluctuate depend. Okay. And how would that be like a liaison kind of role? I missed the last video. I'm sorry about that as well. I know this one. Sorry. >> But uh like a liaison like if I'm the policy representative, I'm going to come to most policy meetings
011and then >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. And again, like this was like the language that I drafted. We have all we've talked about this in the sense that I have kind of shared ideas about that and we've we've had conversations about it. So I also haven't like Sean and Meline have also not waited into this idea that much. So certainly wouldn't have to be, but for me I was just I'm really trying to focus on like how can it be the most like meaningful experience for board reps to to both you know bring ideas to a general discussion but also like there's so much meaning work that happens um in the in in the committees. And so while it's not as like sexy in a way to be able to sit there as opposed to
012at a full board meeting, um I think that it's it's a really unique opportunity to really be able to dive in. And then I would imagine, you know, if somebody was sitting with us on the policy committee, you know, when we talked about a policy at the full board meeting, that person would come and be able to kind of speak on it um at the larger meeting as well. >> Okay. I guess like the main thing I kind of took away from reading this is that I'm I'm not entirely convinced that it's like a it's that it's it's really an expansion of student voice in a meaningful way >> just more with the rotating guidelines just like and how to how to do that in an effective and educational way >> like as it stands
013I feel like well let me go back actually would the student representative position if we rotate I'm assuming everybody's a representative and then one person's ex official for the main purpose of a voting >> would I guess in a voting meeting I feel like we generally have a certain level of voice this seemingly would restrict it except for one person who it's elevated so if you have like four glasses all half full one of them's fully full the other like a quarter full at this point something that like it's >> but not really because it's the same thing as us as board members. Just because we have a president, he doesn't have more of a vote than the rest of us. >> Yeah. And I got that. It's more reading like the like the policy
014language that I get that sense from. I And I know like everybody here best intentions like and it's but reading it from like the if a board in 20 years reads this and is like okay only one of you can ever say anything. I >> I I I'm scared for this. clarify is it it's one X50 from each school, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it would be two. I think again we're trying >> I'm thinking about trying to solve like multiple problems. One of which is like having seven people and board meeting. I think it also creates a really great opportunity for you all to do a lot more kind of collaborative work within your school buildings so that it's not like I I would hope even now the intention of the policy even as
015it sits now like is not for us to hear like what Julian thinks or Judah thinks like we're we're hoping that you're speaking like from a voice of the entire >> school. Yeah. So, so I think that the way that I would see it is that the time that you guys would spend as the full group of everyone assigns different things, the person that would be coming would be coming just as the kind of >> you know person that would be sharing from everybody's perspective. So it's more about like like you if you think about what you guys are reporting out now in a day when like Emily and both are here like you report out about everything that's happening at LACS and it's just a little bit more streamlined and so thinking about it
016more >> from that perspective. I struggled with the idea a little bit of having it rotating and I really like the idea of having like one person really get in matched. The reason that I wrote that in was because of feedback from you all or some of you that really like that idea and I understand the like sense of like well I want to be able to have that opportunity too >> but it does have you know the >> you know >> a different outcome that way for sure. >> Before we go on for a second I'm realizing there's like a lot of students in the room. I don't I think I didn't know the last I heard no other students were coming but I'm assuming now that you are here to talk about this.
017Is that >> is that right? >> Um so I apologize. I had no idea that I did not know. So um if if you all are also here to talk about this policy and we welcome you up to the table. I want to make sure we can kind of back up a little bit and uh we can you are and >> you can sit back and listen. >> Yeah. What are these? >> Yeah. the superintendent superintendent just >> sorry. >> Okay. So, >> did you guys come to You're welcome to sit at the front if you would like to engage. >> I have all the space. >> That's all. If I get over there, >> I'll come over there. Yeah. No bra. Okay. Well, let me apologize. I I totally should have asked earlier and
018invited everyone to sit down. Um, >> thank you for coming. >> Yeah, thank you so much for coming. I so for for everyone in the room, we really this whole the whole time that we've been working on this policy, we've been talking about how to um create both a a policy and a program that really infused all student voices and all student perspectives um into the work of student board reps. And we realized that all of our conversations have been with our current student board reps who are al obviously already very engaged um which we're very grateful for. And so we have reached out to other groups within the community to try to get other perspectives on like do you even know anything about like student board reps? Like do you know like would you
019ever get involved? Why or why not? Have you ever been do have you had an opportunity to provide feedback? Things like that. And this is not an assessment about like how board reps are doing. I think it's more about a recognition that it's really hard to reach like a huge group of student population and and so we are looking to everyone for ideas on how to do that more effectively and how we can kind of infuse some of that language in the policy itself depends that that's happening because otherwise um it's not really represented like of a student body. So, I think that you guys are from like two different groups which we both reached out to. If you don't mind like introducing like name and and what who you're affiliated with as it relates
020to this. >> Yeah. Um, so I'm Lionel Molen. I am the external affairs coordinator for the SSAC uh superintendent student advisory council which means um I'm in charge of coordinating how the SSAC interacts with other schools with the board webs and um administration here. >> Um my name is Oakley Mroy. Um, I am the internal affairs coordinator for the superintendent student advisory council, which means that I oversee internal procedure. Um, I assist the chair with matters. I oversee committee heads and I help resolve things if there is a need for that. >> Great. Thank you. Is it just you two or are there other people? >> Um, Andrew is the other piece of the puzzle that he couldn't make it today. Yeah, there's 22 members in total. Yes. >> I think it's more than >>
02126. Go ahead. >> My name is Esther. Um I'm with uh >> village and that's just it. >> What school do you go to? >> Oh, I go to high school. >> Okay. >> Oh, sorry. Um my name is Kaylee. I'm here or over you. I'm here with the villa as a student um well board member and just to sort of gather information about what's going on here today so we can um put it in what we're doing very town. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Well, um, do you guys know about like have you seen the policy? Do you know like do you need a little background even? >> Um, >> I I just saw the policy. We got an email at some point during the day and >> I have uh not received an
022email. >> Okay. >> And I in terms of context, I did watch the last I I kind of skimmed through the last meeting on this last night on the recording. So, I I have some knowledge of what you guys have been talking about, but I'm full. >> Well, we'll we'll we'll back up real quick. Um, so we have had student reps um that sit at um and join us at the board meetings for decades now. Um, sorry guys. >> You guys know you have student reps? >> No, I've known Judah for five, no, four years and I never knew ever in my life that he was born. Um uh so there have been both reps. We have not been around all that long. So you know I've only known them for the last couple of
023years and been able to see them. But basically there is an election at the schools. It's different at LAS and at IHS. in both on both ways there there's some sort of a process where they um you know uh promote themselves as being interested in running as a board rep are elected by the student body um and then join us uh here at the board meetings. The goal is to be able to have student representatives that are um that are reflective of the entire student body to be able to bring um both like celebrations of really exciting things that are going on and um like challenges uh that students are facing that they want to be able to advocate for. Um or anything in between just like topics that they want to engage in and
024weigh in on um that they know that the boards already are talking about. Um, so like for instance, the whole cell phone policy that we were developing last year, it was a um, we had a lot of input from our board reps to both um, provide input and what like how the feedback that they were hearing from students about what they'd like or not like in the policy, but also um, what uh, they have been they help us immensely with like doing surveys of the student body to like ask questions about like how the cell phone policy is is going this year and and how how students source kind of what they need and they'll be things like that. That's one example, but basically on every topic that we work on at the board. Um
025right now the policy pretty much well actually we won't even talk about the policy right now. The process is really that they come to the meetings um and that they that we have an opportunity every time for all of our student board reps to present and share out about whatever they wish to do which could be any number of those things. Sometimes they share, you know, everything from uh, you know, athletics and like wings of different like sporting events to um, you know, very specific challenges that their schools are facing related to, you know, ADA compliance like whether doors are opening or not um, in order to help people through who are in wheelchairs or otherwise not fully able-bodied to everything in between. Um, but I think we all recognize that that information is only
026coming from the students that they are able to reach and we want to be able to think as broadly as we can about how to help the the whole system kind of work in more effectively um to include all voices. >> Um, so some of the main Well, do you want to add anything about that? Um there >> uh some of the main like buckets that we have really been interested in are things like the election process itself. It sounds like not everybody is even um aware of those things happening in the schools. Um so like what the election process is, what um what is being asked of student or of candidates as far as like what are their intent like what are they actually like intending to do? Why do they want to run
027for this role? and how are they going to kind of um contribute to elevating student student voice. Um to things like how many board reps we should have we could we should have as you as we mentioned not everybody is actually even here but we usually have seven students who are sitting here who we'd love to hear from and also that's a lot of students to be integrating into hearing different voices every single board meeting. So, we're trying to be creative on like where where can students really like sit and be in order to have the biggest like impact and share. Um, and what are the other buckets? Um, uh, yeah, I think yeah, like mentorship is another one. Um, there's like a teacher mentor that works with the IHS students. Um the LAS students
028don't really have one but you work with your principal kind of kind of community driven >> for the outreach student. >> Yeah. So that they go out the way and different groups of students. >> Yeah. So really the long story short is like this is the opportunity for student voices across the board to be able to come to the nine board members who are working really closely with the administration also like making a lot of like big decisions for the district to make sure that we're actually hearing from students about what they want to do. Um and we want to make sure that we're actually that this policy is actually helping make that happen. Um so we've had a lot of opportunities to work with our board reps who are you know who are truly
029just inheriting the role from other people and are kind of shaking on on that and so also um you know it is not a creation of what of the purpose that they have created either um but I've had a lot of opportunities to be able to hear from them and so thought that hearing from some of you um especially those of you who feel like you may not be um um as engaged with the current reps or or be as aware as you could be about how to um kind of get your voice heard here. We would love to hear from you. So, I will stop talking now if if folks want. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I have some things to say about this. Um I know that based on what I saw from the
030previous meeting, I believe uh you were talking about different like individual outcomes versus group outcomes. I do have some things to say about outcomes for SSAC individuals in terms of leadership skills, but do is that something that we talk about here and then I'll get on to the group stuff. Okay. So, individual outcomes. The SSAC um has a bunch of different uh main roles that that that kind of mirror a lot of different bureaucracy that exists. So we have a one student chair person who kind of deals with the broadstrokes and the vision um for the council as a whole and moving forward and and organizes the meetings and runs them and stuff. So that's kind of a obviously there are business applications upper management roles for stuff like that. We have an internal affairs
031coordinator um Oakley right here who is someone in charge of overseeing all of the committee work um and running the council smoothly. Uh so that's kind of a position of coordinating many different bodies like helping them stay on track and getting them the resources they need. External affair affairs coordinator which is me um is is more of a communication role. So I look to uh to gain information from the student bodies and and split it back to them and organize dialogue between different organizations. So that obviously happens in all kinds of situations throughout life and then we have also co- secretaries which do more of that minister uh clerical work of like organizing stuff. Uh and we do also have four standings committees which have chairs that um oversee how those committees work to gather
032and develop information. Judah is actually one of those chairs. Um and I'm going to talk more about that in a second. Okay. So in terms of the group outcomes uh on student view representation uh the SSC is not really an alternative to the boards. It doesn't contradict it in any way. It's more of like a parallel form of student representation. I'm calling it a a think tank model. Uh that's just my little thing. But we we have a bunch of individuals, 27 people from all four secondary schools selected by admin. um which is a obviously a different system from election and um school administrators might have uh ways to include individuals and develop the leadership of individuals who are less outspoken, right? Like there are definitely people throughout the district who maybe want and care
033about these things but don't want to go through the trouble of running a campaign for that. Uh so they are selected by admin but that process is not formalized as of now. Um so that is up for some discussion. Um and then the way that we represent students we uh engage with them during committee inquiry. So each couple of months we have uh our four committees on teaching and learning, district operations, human resources and technology and budget and finance go out and do research and talk to students and interview teachers and stuff and gather information. And so that's kind of that that's where I get the think tank from. they're they're going to the schools um and engaging with the students to gather information which then informs the recommendations we make to to the superintendent
034and the board. Um and then on the flip side of that, we also do work to disseminate district info at some point during the roof play. Uh I can this is a conclusion that we passed recently on outreach and publicity and it deals with certain things such as uh dealing with misinformation and certain aspects and um conclusion on school facilities. Uh deals with bathroom questions and help students will will involve talking to students about how they can get engaged with facilities. Um so that's kind of the other side of the representation. We we take information in from the student body. We formulate uh recommendations on that and then we pass them and recommend them. Uh pursuant to that I think that there is a decent amount of relevance of SSAC opinions in board meetings. Uh
035for example, a teaching and learning committee want to be involved with the curriculum committee of the board and the district operations committee. Um we'll talk with the facilities and finance committee and whatnot. Um so we came here thinking about the possibility of an exeicial position for the SSAC. Um obviously this has been in the making for a long time and we are very open to discussion but this is what we thought um might be helpful um that will be occupied by our chair or the external affairs coordinator at different times. Uh so yeah that's all I have to say on that. >> Thank you. That's that's really helpful. I think we'll just and given that we have so many people we're going to keep going we can engage more. No, I just have some qu
036actually. No, I don't. No, no. I think we should move. But I think I do have some comments about >> I mean, you're welcome. We got the floor. >> Yes, that's what we're here for. I just think that maybe well I don't know because it's not my decision because you guys told me get to decide this but I think that like as far as like the importance of things that need to be decided now for our student body and how much issues are truly going on throughout the school right now. I think that there's bigger things that we need to focus on and make decisions on and that if we want to first make like sort of pathways to that to that goal, I think we need to be actually addressing the issues that are
037going to the school now rather than just like doing the surveys and gathering information because there's more issues at hand rather than like those little things. >> Interesting. So, do you feel like the the um the surveys or whatever like I think that I would assume that the intention behind the surveys is to capture that information. >> Yeah. >> But so how do you have >> it's clearly being missed? >> I just think it's not helpful in the sense that like not everybody is sitting in class and actually doing these surveys like >> we're actually doing them. And so that the ways that everybody is gathering this information is not gathering everybody's information and not just saying like you guys gathering information like in itself. I'm saying like when admin sends out emails at the
038end of the day for us to do the five minute surveys like those things even those things are like just not getting you guys information that you guys need on us and not reaching everybody. And so also it's like >> based off of assumption and off of everyday life like >> I don't pass either of you any of you at school. So it's like you know nothing about me and I know nothing about you. So you don't know any of the issues I face at school. I don't know any of the issues you face at school. So it's also like the demographic of where this information is coming from. Like these kids know nothing about the other side of these kids. And not even to just, you know, like put it out that way, but
039it's literally just like that. Like the same way that these student reps, is that what you call? Okay. I just want to make sure I say that like the way that these student reps I think that the way that this like the way that they were either like implemented into the way that you guys get information wasn't in the way that they could best do their do their part in this board because I know you and I know that there's so many important things that we could actually be talking about this table that needs to be talked about to actually help these kids. There's power of the kids like >> I just say so our surveys actually do get most of the school. We had on our cell phone survey I think we had over
040a thousand students out of like 1300. So we we are getting a lot of that and um I I personally have been to multiple clubs and talked to them talked to different students and I do try to reach out to people and I think all of us are also open to being invited to different clubs and different groups and our emails are always open. We have our Instagram page that I think there are a lot of ways to contact us and I for one go out of my way to >> um sorry to cut you up really I will you can talk and just I do want to make sure like this is just like an opportunity for everybody to speak like on behalf of like their themselves about how they're experiencing um things. So
041I you know I'm sure we like everybody could get in debates about this is but I think like for this matter like I I don't think it's like an >> No, it's not a debate. No, not at all. So, I just I think that we should leave it with like let's let everybody just kind of like speak from their experience cuz >> No, I completely understand too, but it's just like at the end of the day it's like even if like you were to be doing these Instagram, it's like all like I mean it's like there's obviously like there's just still a divide. Like even if we're getting those responses back, it's like you're I think what you're not understanding is like you're not getting the responses from the people who are truly struggling and
042who are truly needing that help and truly need their voices to be heard through you at these meetings. Not even through you, but you know what I'm saying? like through like the people who actually, you know, are having issues with school academically and schools like the the policies that are affecting them even when we don't know about them, even in ways that could be ruining their school experience. >> And so I have a quick question also. >> Yes. >> During those surveys, do you guys have time to stop making assignments or whatever during the class? Does do you have a time to where like the teacher is probably saying like hey you know there's a survey out the next five minutes or whatever and make sure >> so most school issued surveys like I don't
043know if they're coming that's also the other thing I don't know if most surveys are coming from you guys or if they're coming just from the admin team. What I know is that usually most surveys that are like we all have to take are usually like at the end of the school day like the last five eight minutes of class and then everything just kind of stops and then you're just in your class taking your survey. But there's also like the vast of like 50% of the class is also not doing it. So that was that's what I was referring to. Not that like people aren't. >> So Esther, not to keep putting you on the spot, but one other follow-up question is one of the things that we've been talking about. Lillian, I'm sorry
044I forgot right right after this. Um it's here for um is like so what do we do? Like we've been talking a lot about like what are the other avenues with which we can like or students can like meet? Is it that we need different like representation or broader representation of students here who can reach those groups or others? Yes, I think we need to be giving more opportunity to the kids who don't who don't who aren't able to sit at this table literally. Like I think that we need to be able to look into the rest of these kids and see like you may not have the leadership skills that you know this kid has, but I know that you know about this and I know that you're that you're able to talk about
045this and this and this for hours and that you're a a good voice. Like I think that as far as true success here at IHS, we're doing it, but we're not doing it for every kid and that's the issue and that's why we're so behind because not everybody's able to come together and actually be able to speak about these issues and communicate if that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Uh, I was just going to say before like I feel like it's really difficult obviously to reach a whole school demographic and like I do know that like this year like we all are in pretty like different activities or like classes and things like that and like obviously like you don't know what any person is going through that can whatever but it's like
046difficult because no matter who's repres representing the board. There's still going to be these issues and just trying to figure out ways that we can communicate like you were saying like certain students like like even if they don't have like as great a leadership skills and stuff just like accessibility to these opportunities which is like I think it's like it is open for everyone to run. I just think people don't like I guess like read it in their emails or stuff like that or like >> but then it's just like that exactly right there. That's what makes it inaccessible to those students because as soon as you make like those resources like that is a great way to reach out. But I think that's also like where we're where we're fighting with the issue that
047we're trying to solve. Like we're doing these ways to reach out to these students to get them open to these opportunities, right? But then it's like, okay, now we're thinking outside the box. If I'm just a regular kid who's not like, you know, you guys doing like a billion activities, I'm sure you guys have tons of meetings. You guys are super important doing all these things. Like, you kind of have to think outside the box. Like, if I'm a regular kid who just goes home and I'm not checking my email, where am I looking? Like I think those are also different ways that we can think about how we can get those students to be more involved and more you know open and accessible to these sort of things so that we're not also missing
048that information that we do need because I think what would be a lot bene a lot more beneficial to all these student representatives is that if we had people from those dem those different un unrepresented demographics so that when you guys are lost and not able to know why the next person is having this issue. You're able to have somebody that can tell you why this might be about why this might why this like you're getting what I'm saying? Not even in the technical sense of knowing somebody, but knowing the culture of somebody and knowing the shared experiences of somebody I think does help a lot more. >> So, let me ask you like specifically other than emails, other than student hub, other than even school announcements, what ways can we reach out to? >>
049I think like that you were saying the social media way. I think that's also honestly like a really great way to keep going about it. I'm not saying like that let that be the only way, but I wish that we were also this is also like an idea. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't even be able to do this or that you guys would be able to do this, but I think also a great way would be back if like we actually brought back like inerson like events at school last meetings. We want that. >> I think it would be a great way to like get kids back involved. And I think like when we have like those school events that you guys should be able to promote yourself and like be able to talk about
050the board because when we're having those school like events like the school spirit and stuff those should be just as representative as like the athletics and all those other things because I have no idea. >> Yeah. >> And I think it would be really great. >> We've been talking about that a lot. Yes. >> Um so in response to this uh one thing is that um these students who are of concern in these demographics could theoretically uh be appointed to the SSAC by admin. Um, in addition, uh, at LACS we do this on a smaller scale, but we have things like ASM and then every Thursday we have a morning meeting where anybody can come up and mention any topic of concern or just anything that they want to bring up. So that's for morning
051meeting for ASM. Um, >> that's every meeting. That's every morning. >> Yes. Every Thursday morning. >> Yes. In between projects. Um and then on Wednesdays, uh we have a cycling ASM and somebody if there's a larger concern that they want the whole school to address, they can write a prop, uh proposal or a dilemma depending on whether it's a thing that they think they have solution to or something that they want a solution to and they can file that through agenda committee and then agenda takes that brings it up to the entire school and allows everybody to feel thought of. So that's where I think like IHS just differs because we don't have that sense of community and that sense of wanting to hear >> and I also understand that you are on a much
052larger scale and it would be hard to facilitate things like that. So we do QSM as well >> uh which is something that you could do uh implement somehow. I'm just uh floating something here. But >> um >> No, but I like that the idea of like kids meeting with their maybe we could find a way to implement like a like a way that teachers are doing that with within their own classrooms instead and then teachers are going and submitting their own their own responses. But could you you said something to me about adding the first sentence? So um these uh the the kids you were talking about who are maybe not getting sufficient voice um one thing that admin could do is appoint them to the SSAC committee which is uh you know the
053thing that we're on and uh because if they don't want to have to run a campaign it's just direct appointing not election. So then they can have their voice heard within the committee and not have to worry about a campaign or uh >> right >> criticized in public or in private. So it's uh it's it's another alternative. >> Yeah, that's a good one. >> Um >> I think that is it. Excuse me. I do think that it's important to obviously recognize um what Esther said, the unheard of demographic, but I'm not saying it's definitely very close to impossible. Somebody will be unaccounted for and I don't think that it's under the fault of just anybody. Like people will ignore surveys I've seen like I've been in classes are just like I'm not going to do
054this and it happens like regardless of how much we try it does happen. I think the outreach is extremely important and different ways of outreach. Um, I don't have any specific things to say in regards of the way to go about that, but I do think what you guys are doing currently or at least from what I'm seeing has been a good job at least with the surveys and what I've been seeing changing in our school more specifically. Um, our phones and bathroom policies. I've been seeing a lot of people or at least in and out of the bathrooms. the bathrooms have been cleaner and um the smoking has been a big problem lately if I'm going to be so honest about it. Um so maybe there could be more things talked about but either
055than that I feel it's sort of it's nec it's very necessary to just continue that community outreach and like you guys have been doing and also talk just well you guys are busy obviously but talking to people in school I like um or even I see the cuz everybody gets or every teacher gets a toddler and we hear about them. And so just like even Bor um members like writing about things in the Tadler or just um maybe coming up on announcements or what you guys are working on. I think even that the third period like sort of announcements would be helpful for it. That' be cool to know. And I also thought the idea of having what was it? ASM or that's a really good idea and I think it would be important to
056implement that um in whatever ways you guys can in IHS because we do have that larger demographic and >> it would be a really helpful resource. That's all. Um, >> um, I think that like kind of like to go off of what was saying like promote yourself more and like to let students know that they can like put in their information or like their questions to you guys. I don't know, maybe do assemblies or like those field dates. just get out the phone the microphone and just say whatever it is. Um, and I also feel like kids don't really not that they don't feel comfortable coming to you guys and like telling me like what they think is wrong. I just feel like they don't think that there's going to be much of a change.
057So, >> that's what it is. >> Yeah. They don't want to like I don't know waste their for example the phone policy like we some students don't like it others think like they seem more attention and focus in classes but like what are what are we going to do it's like a state thing there's realistically there's nothing we can do to change somebody and I feel like that's why kids don't feel comfortable Sorry, can I also take you off because I think that's really important. They end up taking off the school Wi-Fi. So, even personal devices can't use school Wi-Fi. >> So, even when you're there after school, it makes it extremely hard for people um maybe in clubs or people who maybe don't have their Chromebook if they have their personal device or even
058I have so much trouble con I don't have um a data plan. I have so much trouble contacting my parents because I don't have school Wi-Fi. And it's just racist. >> Like the way that they the way that they implement the policy, certain ways of it is just racist. >> And I think that's also an issue that just needs to be addressed because at the end of you getting your phone taken away by an administrator. You have to write your name on a form. And I asked Patrick CVY and he literally tells you that it is to go back around to track back to add you >> and they'll come they'll come up to you with their phone in your pocket and tell you >> well that is you should not >> I like to
059finish what I was um saying. So, >> um, oh yeah, like contacting parents, it's extremely I think that's something that could be worked on maybe um cuz I understand why we don't have our phones during the day and that's not something we can necessarily build upon um as of right now. But just that sort of internet that we're not get like it's streamline. I've heard some people like have troubles getting rides after school and it's something that could just help anybody. So, and the Wi-Fi too like um my eyes or a personal matter that was very important and she couldn't go to about a person ask me why or all these questions that I don't feel comfortable sharing person >> and I a little issue with like cell phone policy is like communication between like
060you know people at home and things like that. I may not be able to my mom may not have a number. I may call her off a messenger or something. How would I be able to contact my mom if I can't use my phone contact her in those type of ways? So that that's my assumable >> and they tried to like let us know when we had an assembly about it um that you know there's places that we can go to but like they it's just a lack of enforcement between like all the issues around the school that is really bothering me like not so much the communication like how we're getting to you guys and like letting you know but just like or development. I see little change. It's it's a little noticeable, but
061not to like quote unquote regular students just coming to school. >> Are you saying that you don't like the enforcement or that it's inconsistent? It's inconsistent with across different. >> Yeah. Um, okay. Um, themes that are coming up for me. Oh, sorry. Go for it. >> Yeah, just one more thing. Um, I do want to talk uh about a demographic that hasn't really been brought up that is uh not represented at all so far and that is the Dit and Boon students who clearly have opinions. So, um, just before this, I was at DIT Middle School and I talked to their student council, um, about bunch of different issues. A lot of it is about the inquiry topics that we're working on in the SSAC and I can communicate that, but just some things that
062I want to mention and this is kind of like a just like a a case study and how we can do these kind of meetings between the SSC SSAC and student government. Um but there was an extreme lack of knowledge about what the board of education is at all, how um what decisions they make and and people being able to participate in it. And I but there was clearly a lot of opinion about issues that get brought up all the time. Like we spent like 15 minutes on school lunches. people had a lot of stuff to say about that. Um, teacher recruiting and and retention is a big issue and that was um, something that people brought up. So I just want to like I think that I mean I see the value in having
063um the SSC have a presence here because we do have Dit and Boon students and that gives us an ability to talk to Dit and Boon interact with them that I don't think it's fair to have them represented by IHS or LCS student reps obviously and I think that organizing elections for is a little bit um complicated and maybe like we talked about shyness and running for positions and there's absolutely a vanishingly small number of kids in middle school who would be like yes I'll make a campaign to go talk in front of everybody at the grown-up policy meetings. Um but anyway, I I just want to mention like I think that when it when we're debos designing this exeicial policy um and you saw in that email that Andrew sent that he's presenting the
064SSACs as a possible solution, but that we definitely need to consider middle school voices, especially since they are represented in LAS. That's kind of the weird quirk of the system, but um yes, that that's what I had to say about that topic. >> My understanding of the SSC was that it would be an advisory council to Dr. Brown and Dr. around bring it in his updates and that's how the representation will get through rather than having another rep because these reps were elected by the high school and even the the SSAC reps from the middle schoolers were appointed by Andrew Reich was >> they were appointed by someone >> some mostly admin but he made some appointments I believe >> rather than elected >> and So I my understanding was that it would just go
065through Dr. Brown and Dr. Brown would bring those to the committee which he has. >> Yes. Okay. Um I think that makes sense but I also I do want to say that there's a lot of situations um in terms of these committees. Uh I talked about the the kind of correlations. So each assistant superintendent is related to one SSAC committee and I think that there's a lot of value in having those committee chairs and committee members being able to more easily participate in those sessions. I I don't know whether um the about the inner workings about Dr. Brown or other people presenting uh things to board meetings. The vision that I remember having is kind of a a a both of us that we would have Dr. Brown come with an SSAC representative and they
066would together kind of give um information about that, but I I mean he's not here in the room right now. Um and to talk about exactly how that will form because I don't think we're exactly clear on that kind of information. Uh yeah, but yeah, I I don't want to be here coming in to be like demanding an exeicio seat. I I know that you guys have had so much time working on this um policy and and talking about who gets that representation, but I do think that there's a necessity for some kind of formalized representation from the SSAC body. not as an alternative, not as we're not the point is not to have another body that acts as a as a as a representation of students because it's not an elected body. It is
067it's simply an advisor movement. >> Um, >> quick question. How out of the 22 members you guys have, >> 27. >> Yes, my number was incorrect earlier. I apologize. >> Is it just high schoolers or is it a mix of high school and middle school? we proportionally um have them out from LAS, Boon, JIT, and the IHS. >> So, I'm going to say something that I'm sure won't be popular right now, but hearing about the work that you all do, and this is honestly the first time that I've learned anything about this group, which I think is unfortunate. Um, and and if I if this was like my first day having conversations about any of this and I wasn't on the board and didn't know anything else about the board reps, I would just think
068I would say it sounds like you guys are already doing like it sounds like you kind of what you said in the beginning. It's like parallel like you're going into schools and asking about all of the issues that everyone's facing and trying to bring that back and to be able to like relay that to Dr. Brown. this group is doing the exact same thing and speaking more about like structure here >> for sure. But like the goals seem to be the same. So it almost seems like why are there two different >> Yeah. Like are you guys both like going to the student groups and like asking the same things or is there a reason that we don't have and I'm not this is why I'm saying it's not popular. I'm not suggesting but if
069I didn't even know this group existed. I would just say shouldn't three of you be coming to the board every time and sharing everything that you know and it would be right the same >> I don't know >> I would say that I think that the the place where it differs the most um is that the that the SSAC is a group where all the different opinions from different schools which are gathered in addition to data and different stuff and and and interviews are kind of melted together into one opinion that we gave to the board. Um, and I think that that's different for Dr. Brown, but I think that that's different from I see the boards as more of a kind of like an advocate for voices at their schools and that can like
070and that obviously is a much more fluid position. they don't have to vote on what they're going to say and they will go and bring more regularly bring information back and and talk about all sorts of issues as opposed to a more like um like long time consideration of one specific issue and getting more information from all the different schools and putting it together. So, I think it's just a different way of doing student representation in terms of like representing this school just in general and advocating for them versus like finding policy questions, finding specific policy questions and then gathering data everywhere. >> Say the SCC is all appointed and none of it's elected except internally we elect or no, we don't that's that's appointed too, isn't it? >> Um, we don't have an official
071So everything is appointed in there and I think that is where it actually lacks representation. >> Um I think obviously the SSA SS SSAC is important but what I understood was that the SSC would be advising different superintendents. So the chairs would be all be advising their corresponding um assistant superintendents and then the chair of the committee would be advising Dr. around rather than having them come to board meetings and then board reps would be a more fluid role like Lionel was saying that can we can kind of be on autonomous and reach out to groups across our schools and hold all of those and it's it I think the lack of um sort of rigid structure also allows us to actually represent students from all things rather than being confined to um you know
072one committee where I can only talk about operations >> but I feel like the The richness of it is that the way I see it, y'all should be working together. >> Yeah, that's what I would think. I would think if you guys got the power. >> This is such a big group, especially at IHS alone, >> that it's it's almost impossible for just the three or four if you just cover everyone. Like we were saying, like there's some kids that going to be >> covered, but working together cuz they have a good system and it can go with the advocacy. It's it's it's not one or the other. It's I'm on that. >> Yeah. So I I'm a chair of the SSC and I have regular communications with the chair of the whole committee. So
073I we are working together. And >> I think the reason that you haven't seen a lot of that collaboration yet is that we just formed in November of this year. And so really a lot of what we've been doing this year is setting up the committee. And I think you know in future years there will be more collaboration but there's nothing really to collaborate on yet because there there aren't channels set up in SSC to reach out to schools yet and there aren't a lot of um externally substantive discussions going on. A lot of it is internal practices like L was saying the last inclusion we passed was about um public outreach. So there's less of there's less discussion on in the SSAC so far about um you know district operations in general and so
074I think that's where you're seeing a lack of um collaboration but we are collaborating it's just not very visible at the moment. >> Yeah. >> And is it's just you or you three are >> just me right now. It's kind of exciting though if if it's brand new then there is an opportunity to integrate a lot. >> Yeah. And even you know >> having I know you guys are from the community the village of Ethica but like this this is three groups of different you know >> the collaboration can coexist here in multiple communities. >> Yeah. I don't think we've been involved with the villages yet. I would very much love to to talk to you guys about a lot of these issues because I know that you have a way of representing more marginalized
075groups in the community um in ways that I don't think that we can do with our only members. So >> I would love to see that. >> I would love to see this. >> That was a great sentence. >> Yeah. >> Just uh two things. Uh, one, yeah. Uh, I also talked with Andrew uh about uh doing more uh collaboration with uh board representatives uh in the future. However, uh as was previously stated, there's not a whole lot to do just yet. We're still trying to figure everything out, although we are still trying to make process forward, drafting conclusions, yada yada yada. Um, the other thing about it is I'm not sure if uh the rest of the board is where yet, but uh members who are appointed to the SSAC are there until they
076graduate or until uh they are uh they step down or are removed for >> some reason. Yeah. But uh that means that instead of a uh a board representative from a school that uh runs a campaign each year to get reelected, the SSAC members are there until they graduate under normal circumstances. >> What they'll move through the schools in that way. Exactly. >> Um and then about just about the the thing about the the superintendence and the ad the advising that is a process that we still um is in the works. I know Mr. Briman we are planning to meet soon. I have to get back to you on that. >> It's okay. >> Um but >> we uh will talk about how that works. We also need to confer with Andrew. I think he
077has a lot more of the details. I mean he is as the chairperson all of these like greater vision things are kind of up to him. So I don't want to really speak as to what the the overall vision of the SSAC as represent representative body is beyond what I've just said. Um, but I do think that I I really think that Judah's point is very it's a good thing to think about and I just don't think that there's a something that we can tell you at this time about how that representation to the board is going to look like. >> Yeah. This has been great. Thank you so much because this is very helpful and is the type of information that we need in order to make this type of decision. Also, uh if
078you need any more information, you can reach out to myself, uh Lionel or Andrew, uh via email and we can respond to you whenever. >> And feel free to come to our communities. Stay engaged. That's the best way that we can get to hear your feedback whether you're a rep or not. Like we we create uh time to hear, you know, to hear from anybody that wants to something to that has something to say. So just stay engaged. >> So before we uh wrap up, first of all, I want to get back to Julian from the very beginning in a minute about like specific things in the in the draft policy. Um before others go or or decide they don't have anything else to say, do if you guys have any thoughts more specifically about
079based on what your experience or lack thereof has been like thinking about, you know, elections specifically. of all the promotion of like the role itself about like even being made aware that there's an opportunity to become a board rep like what we're trying to think about what things to include in the policy or in the process about like what we what we need to have happen in order that more people are aware of this opportunity. I also hear you loud and clear and saying that like the person who is going who is probably best able to speak on behalf of any particular student group doesn't necessarily mean that there's somebody that can be here every other Tuesday for hours and hours at a time which I totally get. So it makes me start thinking about
080like is that just the responsibility of the student reps to like identify those people or are those people like a a different kind of student rep? It's like a student rep within the school that then connects with the student rep. Like how do we ensure that that that's happening even and that those voices are being heard especially if there's somebody from like a group that's able to kind of like represent or speak on behalf of those groups. like are there does anybody have any ideas of ways to kind of like integrate that in a little bit whether it's creating a new role or changing the election process needs or um I don't know any any of anything like that. Um, uh, my comment from earlier was just that, uh, I feel like in terms of
081being made aware at LICS, we do a pretty good job of telling people that they can run for a board rep, but I was nominated last year. I turned down the nomination because I just I I didn't know what a board rep did at all. I was not previously informed. >> But to what you had just said like five seconds ago, um, I think, wait, what was your question? It was like to how are we going to get kids to be to how to find those kids? >> Yeah. How to find and how to create an opportunity for them to really like be engaged even if they can't be here every Tuesday. >> What if you guys just had like a person who like just like goes and talks to people and like meets people
082like as a requirement has to like literally has to go find people like that's just their job. They just find people or like what if you guys like >> I mean that's I mean yeah >> I know I'm saying like I'm just like I'm saying it but like I'm trying to think in my head >> like like saying what's up like what's on your mind like what's happening? >> No like uh like um like uh like I don't know like obviously maybe instead maybe instead like here's something more sharper like we we put out flyers. You have Miss Dire put out flyers like oh if you want to be a board rep or you're interested or you think you're good at this d you come. And then like that way like you can have people
083like if you're like or what if you guys did like a like how we had the open house for Mike like how you had people come and you had people figure out like like the open house like you you have like a little you have a little booth. You have a little setup and then you have people come or have it so like people can do join a Zoom meeting for the people who can't come or don't have rides after school. Like I don't know. I think that there could be ways and a way that we could definitely sit down and like actually talk about instructor play. But I'm thinking about like idea off my head. But >> so if you could send those in an email to us and I don't maybe Trisha if
084you guys want those that would be great too. >> We can also have >> Yeah. Um and another thing I know this is kind of a add-on at the end but I would really like to see more involvement between uh the student council at IHS specifically and the board reps. I know I worked on an editorial at the Tata about student representation. Um, and a big thing that we found was that the the the student council had become a kind of a largely um non like a a body where the decisions didn't have real political gravity and were often not listened to and often dealt with. Right. It well and it dealt with much more of like minor things like school events and had become had drifted from becoming the full like obviously I don't
085know that we need to return to this but I know that in past years it was a more powerful legislative body that could actually make decisions. Um but I would really like I mean obviously Judah is also part of the leadership team for the student council. Um it's really an everything man. Uh but um I think that we need I I really like that system because anyone can literally just walk in there during lunch and and say something in a in a way that has a much more like that is I I see the student council at IHS as the largest group of people that you could ever get to actually come and engage actively in district governance. And I want to make it easier for the board reps and the board to get there.
086>> If I could say something about that. Um, >> well, what's going on with student council right now is that we we have a lack of issues that are being brought. So, we have all these reps from, you know, all different grades and all different places and anyone can walk in and every single meeting we ask, you know, are there any concerns, anything we need to fix? And no hands go up. We it's not that we lack power so much that we lack problems to fix and you know a couple years back there was a problem and that was lack of menstrual product access at IHS and now every uh every other Wednesday we go out and we stock every bathroom with menstrual products and so that that is an example of one problem that
087we've you know >> figured out and I I don't think so much we lack power as much as that we lack uh people that want to be in student council and people that had issues for your students. >> Yeah. Just also like I was thinking about like ways that like to like outreach the school and that kind of thing. Um I'm president of the communications club and student activities which like is just a smaller group of people but we meet and like try and think about ways to like increase like accessibility to information for the school. But it's again it's like thing of like well if we're not hearing feedback or stuff we don't know how to solve those problems and like like talking >> right >> about that stuff would be help. >> Yeah.
088Wait I I just want to pause on that. I have a quick question. So how much like power does your like organization have? How much like how much ability are you guys able to like help these kids or how much like how much do you have? Where does where's your limit? Like where can you not do anything? We don't have any formal power. What we do is we're a group of students that like um Oh, and I just want to plug this in. I have a bunch of copies of the conclusions task if people want to see them pretty soon. Hopefully, they will be on a website. Um but for now, this is how we're going to do this. But anyway, um so we write we draft these conclusions and pass them. And that is
089a non-binding recommendation uh that says, "Hey, Dr. Brown, these are some things we think the these are the things that we recommend the district does on these issues." Like on school facilities, we want to develop a set of baseline expectations for the cleanliness of bathrooms. That's one thing that we're saying we recommend that this happens and then we're going to work to to make that happen. But there is no actual binding power. It's it's a recommendation. Is that a question? >> Yeah. So then you are you're reading over these you're reading over the recommendations >> every one of them. Yes. >> It's a true truly an advisory council and each year it takes on a different iteration and every and I was saying to the group a decade ago they advised me on technology devices
090and they advised to go with Chromebooks versus Apple laptops and that's what we did. They advised we need a electronic whiteboard in every classroom because we're tired of teachers using overhead projectors. So you see every classroom space has this which I didn't even know they existed before students came. So truly an advisory council. I've learned a lot from them. And this group is much more formalized than what we've had in the past. Um and it's completely studentled. I show up and I'm an attendee and I learn something every month. And uh so does our team. They can't wait to meet with Dr. Brian to talk about these bathrooms I hear. Um, so the advisory council in some way is very different from these other councils that are at the table for a board meeting or
091who are elected etc. >> So like I want to know more about like the process about these kids who are being chosen like are the admin do the admin have one-on-one relationships with these kids? Do they know these kids? Have they seen these kids? Are they are they process? Because it it's a both and it's all um in years in we've had administrators sub submit recommendations. We've had families and young people say I want to be some people have stopped me in it. So there's no formalized process. It's very informal and I'm seeing somebody who's asking me question now. I hope to come to the next meeting because it's that informal which I think is powerful versus the formality of some of these other groups. So please I'll get you today for the next meeting.
092>> Okay, we are we are very short on time. We have just a few minutes. No, I definitely want to hear from you. So, excellent. >> What are you like this mean? I'm just like I'm just asking we have a few other things we'd love to get to before the end. We're so grateful for everybody coming. This has been just an incredible opportunity and I so appreciate you all engaging with one another as well and asking follow-up questions. And um I hope that these relationships continue and that we continue to benefit from all of your insights. So my last question is just does anyone have any kind of like closing remarks or one final thing that you'd like to share? So >> um I have a question on to like what you guys were saying
093earlier about like you know love and we have some different groups going on. Um, is there any way like you can get the village more involved with these needs? Because like like you guys have rap high school like we also as um an organization. >> Yeah. We also are a part of that as well and we work with kids. Um Sarah she works with kids that are from these schools and >> have I don't know what to say. So what we do is that we actually we come from we have kids from all over districts all over Tom County and we come like roughly if we were to say how much we we meet like every month and hopefully sometime um every month and we talk about the issues that are either in their home
094districts or in their districts like that they notice around us or just districts that they have or just issues that they have in the community and then >> yeah that's how like we get we also get a lot of information from kids around whole bunch of different stories we can also talk to whatever talking going on in these meetings. So I feel like if we were to have like representance from the village that's going to be beneficial being >> I I am so glad you said that and the reason that you guys are here is because in the last time you were like we should get the kids village to come. >> So we recognize that you are an incredible resource both to the community and within your schools as well. So, yes, absolutely. And
095I was kind of thinking about that when I was getting it, like are there like representatives of these groups that even if they can't make it to the meetings, I mean, we'd love to see you involved in B reps. Yeah. And if you feel like that's not something that's always manageable for at least some kids that are engaged in the work that you're doing, that's where it's like maybe is there like another role that can be like within the school where maybe you guys help with like representing some of the other groups that are in the school and almost like our more formal liaison with the board reps or whatever. So that we we make sure that that communication is regularly being being brought. So thank you for the idea. Yes, we should continue to
096both talk about that and we should bring in and as Maline just said like we really do also hope that you know you guys can come to like any I know this isn't the same thing but if you know that we're going to be talking about cell phones which we do like all the time at these meetings and I think it's on the next agenda like you can sign up to come we would love to like hear your voices like we recognize that we the job that we can do is only as good as like the information that we have and we know and kind of like we're talk we also as a board like only hear from who we hear from and we even recognize that like sometimes like when we get into debates
097on the board because like one person is hearing from one community and one person needs another and it's really challenging. So the more opportunities that the whole board together and hear from diverse uh voices from the community, the more beneficial it is for us to be able to do our jobs and to support the district and everything else. So yes, thank you very much. Some of these topics like it doesn't just affect the students that go to these schools, it affects their family members and so on so forth. So as village we have the resource to be able to hear from >> outside. >> Yeah. I I'll say just like we were like we don't have any idea like what the SSAC does. There's lots of people on the board that like don't know nearly
098as much about the village as like in fact we have a HR committee meeting in a few minutes where we have someone from the village coming to like talk to us about a historical perspective of why of the hiring processes and other things because like there you know there were questions from board members of like what what is village's role even in that work because there there's so many breakdowns in communication and opportunity to like connect. So yes, very much. Let's continue to talk about it, maybe brainstorm about how we formalize we might want to consider that versus not versus leaving it to you all to kind of work in collaboration. So anyway, I just wasted a lot of time that I said that we had anybody else Julian. >> I got my notes. Sorry,
099I write everything down. Um I guess like going all the way back to like >> hour ago or so just >> I guess mine too asks coming out of this would just be a uh making sure the policy is truly clarified so we know how how the recommendation is going to work if this policy is still around 50 years from now which we know is a distinct possibility that student voice is always secured on the board no matter what and He hearing this conversation I Ruth sets the belief in me that there is such a diverse perspective like I I know sitting as a board rep I cannot display all the viewpoints. I know that my three reps from LAS we cannot do that there the community is too diverse as Ithaca is too diverse.
100LCS is too diverse. So the idea of shrinking that further into the one kind one kind of established voice at a voting meeting and I know that's not the singular point where I voices can be heard and but it is by far probably the most public that's that feels like it's shrinking the the ability that ability and I know that logistically this is incredibly difficult. But we have heard we can go for hours on any subject matter give or like just shout something out. But I guess as a as a child of LACS where voice is so valued, my heart hurts when I kind of hear when I hear something like that. Yeah. Like I I I want voices to be heard. >> I guess that's the bottom line, man. As we've done tonight. And
101again, this has been awesome. Like I know you're on SSCA, but here let's hang out. Like let's talk like let's let's have lunch. Let's let's do something like we again as you were saying >> I I made an announcement a morning meeting and I planned for you cuz I make my Thursday when I supposed to but yeah let's go like >> like yeah let's say yeah like let's these bodies >> so yes >> totally I hear you will take that feedback >> um >> just um well yeah I think networking I mean amongst all of us is a really important thing and I think our position if I can speak for everybody here at the village of Ithaca is we do get a lot of the un unaccounted for groups of people that are just
102not being represented just anywhere. And our mission well here is to so you guys can make the decisions informed on the voices that you guys have not been hearing as well. So networking I think amongst us would be um really important and so we can continue productive sort of Yeah, >> happy birthday. >> That's very exciting. >> Um, okay. Does anybody else have any last minute? >> So, thank you again. Just thank you so much and and this will not be the last conversation that we all have together. Um, Julian, I hear you loud and clear. We will we will think about that. bring an idea yourself if if you can think of another avenue. You know, I do like if we went with the route of what the policy says right now, don't forget
103that like speaking it like there's also voices at every single one of these committee meetings. So, it's not just the board meeting. And in fact, as you've seen, even we as board members like struggle to really be able to say too much during those board meetings and these are the times we can really get into debate and dialogue. So, I just don't want to minimize that opportunity to do that there. But I do I do totally hear you. Um, and it's a it's going to be a challenging balancing act, but this is just the start. Um, so feel free you all well we will actually we will send a current draft um to everybody here and if you want to weigh in on like once you actually see the language of like this doesn't make
104any sense or like this totally negates what we just said up here whatever like we welcome any of that feedback and um make sure that the rest of the board reps if we would like to make some significant progress on this policy before we get to the next policy committee meeting. So, we will do a lot of that work before then. So, if there is feedback, we would love to get it sooner rather than later before we dive back into it. Thank you so so so much. Really appreciate it. >> Yeah.