Geneva Area City Schools Board Meeting - 3/19/25

001We need to have roll call please. Mrs. Cyolski here. Mrs. Milicanin Dixon here. Mrs. Ortiz present. Mr. Pearson here. Um, we need to appoint a treasurer prom for this evening. I need a motion please. Or a nomination I should say. First Jamie. Jamie. I need I know how many Jamie. I second. Do we have I do. I have it for you. Yes. Okay. All right. Um, roll call. Can I have Mrs. Milican Dixon? Yes. Mrs. Ortiz. Um, Mr. Pearson. Yes. Mrs. Craig. Yes. And Mrs. Yes. And here you go. Thank you. Welcome. Certification by the treasure of compliance with meeting requirement rules. We are. This meeting is a meeting of the board of education and public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public community meeting.

002There is a time for public participation during the meeting as indicated in the agenda. If you're able, please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Do you have any correspondence this evening? I have none on my end. Okay. going to wave the reading and approval of the minutes. Roll call, please. Do we have a motion or make a motion, please? So moved. Oh, second. Second. Second. Roll call, please. Mrs. Craig, yes. Mrs. Milican Dixon, yes. Mr. Pearson, yes. Mrs. Cyolski, yes. Motion carries. Report of the interim superintendent. Well, Mr. Mark John is walking down here. I'll give my report very briefly here. Had the chance

003over the last uh week and a half or so to attend a few different events. I'm sorry. Did we skip the calendar? I think we skipped the presentation of the calendar. Was it on my I don't have it listed. What? Yeah, I don't have it listed on mine either. I don't have it listed on my order here. Yeah, this is February's. I apologize. I got February's agenda. Cool. Sorry. Go ahead. February. All right. Well, Mr. Marachine has make his way down here. Had a chance to attend a few events over the last week and a half. Uh the spring musical Freaky Friday was absolutely phenomenal. Uh those kids are talented. Um good stuff. Um, not to be outdone, the softball spaghetti dinner fundraiser. Um, food was great, company was great, and the the girls were

004just so delightful and so polite um, from the get-go. Even took care of our table and cleaned it all up for us. That was great. And then the ELA literacy night uh, that Mrs. Authority had put on, there was about 155 175 folks in attendance. Uh, very well attended. I think one of the best things that I saw was a lot of smiles, a lot of laughter, and families and moms and dads and grandparents, whatever, spending some time with their children. Uh, and that was really, really neat to see. Um, we also, uh, we have a free medical clinic coming up, um, in the county as we usually do March 22nd, 23rd at Lakeside, Lakeside Junior High, dental, vision, medical, everything from fillings to cleanings to eye exams to regular physical exams. It is free.

005Um we did send something out via our robocall system um earlier last week. So hopefully that got to everybody. Spring break is March 24th, 28th. School will not be in session and we will the district offices will be closed with classes resuming on Monday, March 31st for the final quarter of the school year. Um upcoming events, there is a elementary school dance April 5th. Kindergarten registration dates at GPS, it's April 28th and 29th. April 30th it is at Cork and May 1st it is over at Austerberg. You do not need to plan on going to Cork to go to um any of the any of the dates you it's interchangeable. Um it's not a problem whatsoever. And then finally we do have the Red Bow 5K on April 5th for the Kelly Early Memorial Scholarship.

006And those scholarships are given in the memory of Annie Bryan and Kelly Early. Um at that time that's all I have. Mr. Mark John I'll turn it over to you and the rest of the team there. Mr. Riley, you said I could talk for about 20 25 minutes. That was like 2 minutes and 25 seconds. Just for clarification, that joke never gets old, Tony. That That was a lie. It's hilarious every time. Thank you. Thank you. Um, there's a whole bunch of things going on at the elementary school, but I am going to only focus on one thing and that's spring breaks. No, no. Um, we're going to focus on the hard work that Mrs. Dhy did for literacy night. She did an absolutely phenomenal job. And due to um some constraints with parking at

007Cork, she had um literacy night at Austinberg Elementary. And we had a full house. Um and I I kept asking Mrs. Dhy if she could try to describe to me what she's doing. And she said she has a vision for this and of what it was going to be. and she said it was going to be like an escape room and I'm trying to figure out how we're going to have six different grades of kids escaping the school from Snappy the Shark. Um, and but she kept telling me this is what it was going to be and she had a vision so I made sure we we stayed out of her way for her vision. But when she was done, sure enough in the Oscarenberg gym she had six different sites set up. Kindergarten, first,

008second, third, fourth, fifth. Each one had five activities that had to do with reading literacy, and the student and their parent had to figure out all five to be able to escape Snappy Shark and get out of the gym. So, one of the things that that I noticed and I made sure I I mentioned to Mrs. Dhy um and when she was checking out some of the stuff that she had set up in the back is that many of the students left crying and you know you know sweetie you know what what's wrong why why are you crying I don't want to leave I want to stay can it be longer so what an amazing job that Mrs. Dhy did. And she had um she had crafts set up so that they could make some

009under the sea um little fish um and cute little uh jellyfish that looked like scrubbing bubbles with little ribbons on them, you know, like the scrubbing bubbles. Um and then of course uh she had both uh both sets of curriculum that that committee is working on for our elementary reading curriculum. So hats off to everyone that came out and once again a nice job Mrs. Dohy for a great literacy night and Mrs. Bzenko and I are also busy at our buildings and it's that time of year for testing. So that's what we're gearing up for after spring break. Thanks, Tony. Good. Tony was making noises on his good evening. And I think over the last year and a half, Tony has really taken a liking to these little guys. He said cute about 15 times

010in in that presentation. I don't know that he has said that previously. So good. Um, this month, March, is developmental disabilities month. Um, and I just have a little bit in here. Developmental disabilities, um, include autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy, spinoipida, down syndrome. There's many more things that fall into that category, but those are the main ones. Um, we have a number of students in our district with those disabilities. Um, so I encourage for to wear orange. I have one orange short shirt and it's for bullying so I don't have it on. Um, wear orange for developmental disabilities. Friday is Down syndrome day 3:21. Um, so I encourage you to wear blue and yellow on Friday for our Down Syndrome friends. Um, earlier this month I did go to a legal update with Weston Herd. Um,

011it's one of my favorite things to go to. Um, I always like to go with Weston Herd because they're um, it's a more close-knit group. Um, it's all special education directors that are there. Um, so we can network and and talk about um, more specific things to what we're doing day dayto-day. Um the things that they brought up were um some of the new house bills, um how some of these new executive orders could potentially affect special education and the schools, um changes in um in the I'm drawing a blank uh operating standards. Thank you. that um have come across their desks as being a little bit off. Um recent case law and um reminders about how to be compliant and there were it was nice because there were a couple things in there that

012are we're aware of but maybe we weren't following exactly what their guidelines were. So I was able to bring that back to um to our folks. Um they did a wonderful job. The last thing that I have is that I have completed the alternate assessment justification for the 2425 school year. The state is saying that we should be under 1% for each area of testing, math, ELA, and science. Um, 1% of students taking the alternate assessment. Um, preliminary numbers, math and reading were not under 1%, we're at 1.47 and 1.51%. Um, science, we're below. Um, it could be a matter of one student that's taking it or not taking it. I can rest assured that every student that's taking it deserves to take the alternate assessment. Um, other than that, we're just keeping on keeping

013on. Thank you. Thanks, I'll take Tony's extra time. Thank you, Tony. Thanks. So, I'll make a quick uh a couple things from each building. Uh high school inducted 21 new members into the National Honor Societ National Honor Society. Uh the focus on core pillars of scholarship, leadership, service, and character. We're happy to welcome those students into the the NHS. It's a great great accomplishment. They also received three sets of first aid, CPR, AD practice kits, so they can train 30 students at a time, 10 kit. So, that was great. They should be getting those in I think in April. So they're moving ahead with a lot of that stuff. Be great addition to some of the classes at the middle school. Uh I put on this uh update. We had 21 on this past Saturday

01415th. Uh we had kids go down to the middle school state indoor track championship. Uh we had two boys and several girls. Um the boys placed 15 out of 37 teams with only two kids. We got second place vault and third place vault. And uh I had another Jackson Dodd. He did not place the 800 but he did PR which he's excited about. And the girls are a two Pete state champion and the indoor track. So it's two years in a row. So it puts a little pressure on for next year uh to get that done also. But the great group of kids. Uh Musk Kingdom's a nice venue for that event also. And then on your agenda when you get this I think you got emailed to you. There's a link on there about

015Mr. pulling these new key fob. There's a video of a couple kids getting interviewed. My key fob wore it. It uh wore out. It wouldn't stay in my key ring anymore. So, I went to the Mr. Clue. I said, "Hey, for a project, you guys think you can make a new cover for my key fob." He said, "That'd be a great project where just finish up with something else." So, they had to design, make prototypes, and come up with it. Now, this is the one we said was pretty good. I had some the size of my hand. It wouldn't fit in my pocket. I had all kinds of shapes and sizes, but it was a great experience for the kids because they were excited to actually design something that was practical and hands-on and so

016forth. So, it was great use of educational time. So, that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. So, now I'll get to the um redistricting focus group presentation and discussion at this point in time. Just need a second to turn on the laptop. Cheers. [Music] You try to keep the administrative report [Laughter] short. Okay. Just set up maybe Don't see this. [Music] Sometimes I cannot change. And did you get Jared? When do you want my phone? I'm ready. Yeah, it's meeting Beth, Michelle, we could this lady's not here. Parent asked me to share this with y'all. She was going to speak during, but she's not here if that changes. Okay. So, we'll probably just skip it. Sure. Let's move. We're gonna we're gonna just kind of move on and keep moving, you know, so it's

017not extremely late. Um, the interim superintendent recommends adoption of the enclosed Geneva Area City School District 2526 school calendar. Here it is. Some move. Need a second, please. I'll second it. [Music] Any discussion? Roll call. Mrs. Milican Dixon. Yes. Mr. Pearson. Yes. Mrs. Cyolski? Yes. Mrs. Greg? Yes. Motion carries. Okay, we're gonna go back up to two, the redistricting focus group presentation and discussion. All right. Thank you, Tony. Appreciate the help. Um so kind of moving forward. So we had a we were we created a district redistricting realignment focus group um to kind of look at a few items that the board of education wanted wanted the group to kind of look at. One of the things that I stressed to the um folks that were there was that we have three phenomenal school buildings,

018three wonderful school buildings, three fantastic staff amongst all of them. But when we were looking at the statistics, the numbers, the pins on a map, whatever you may you want to call it, they're people. I needed to stress that to to everybody that was always in attendance. They are children. They are families. They're just not a number. They're not a statistic. So, you're going to go through see a couple of statistics here this evening, but no, they're they are people. Um, we took a lot of that into account. So, basically, the why was we were trying to figure out what's in the best interest of our students. Uh the board did request for myself to look at those three questions that are on the three items on the side. The potential redistricting of the school

019district's boundary lines for next school year. The impact of any potential reconfiguration of an elementary school format. The impact of a potential adjustment to the start and end times for the school year. Off to the right are some of the many things that we looked at and we looked at a litany of things. um staff and resources, transportation costs, current class size, enrollment projections, where all of our programs are at districtwide, the impact. Obviously, we're trying to, you know, the the bottom line was we're really trying to look at the consistency in the program at all offerings at all levels, look at the achievement and the growth of our students, and kind of try to reduce any type of stigma that may exist from one building to the other. We're trying to get us all

020on the same page um as a district. Those were the three dates um that we deem meet off to the off to the left and off to the right. We had between 25 and 60 people in attendance. Um I would say that there was probably um 15 16 17 folks that were in every single meeting. Um so that was good to see. So there's really a core group that was with us which which was nice. These were what we termed as a group. They open to the initial question. How do we get a balance of student enrollment in each building and equity of services? Is it a boundary line change? Is it something to do with open enrollment, some kind of adjustment? Is it both? Do we need to look look at that? The follow-up

021questions were obviously, can we transport our students? How do we communicate it to our families? What's our policies and procedural adjustments? Do anything need to get changed, get adjusted? The secondary questions to the right. Is there merit in adjusting our start and end times of the school day? Is there any merit in restructuring our elementary schools to a grade level concept? The follow-up questions were, you know, basically we looked at what does the research say on both of those and there's a litany of research and we'll get through that here in a little bit. What does our community say? We did have a survey that went out and we have some we had some good insight in that. We had some good insight from the many folks that were in attendance and what is it

022going to take to achieve that? So, we kind of looked at all of those um aspects that are there. We looked at all of the stuff and this is just a fraction. We looked at the transportation square mileage, staffing, vehicles, the percentage of students that are transported currently, class sizes, and enrollment projections. What do they look like in every single building? What do they look like in preschool? What have we historically gotten? We looked at it by building. We looked at it by open enrollment. We looked at it by interd district meaning you're coming from one school outside of uh you're coming maybe from Ashtabula into Geneva intra district. We have a family maybe that is supposed to be going to Cork Elementary School and they want to go to Geneva Platar Spencer. That's the

023intra. We did look at parent feedback. We looked at a whole bunch of different scenarios. We looked at what we currently have. We looked at a kind of a K1 23 versus a four five scenario. We looked at a prek2 versus a 35 scenario. We looked at a shuttle concept. We'll talk about that in a little bit. We looked at the impact on the transportation department. Not only the finances, but the time on the bus and the personnel. And then finally, we looked at some general resources. We pulled research studies. We pulled articles um everything that was associated um with grade level versus community school and also um the research on any type of a start time. So, here's what we kind of got a little bit. Just some facts for you. Our district is

02492.7 square miles. Uh, it's a lot. We have 15 drivers, 18 bus routes. So, again, if anybody wants to drive a bus, we have a job for you. We transport over 50% of our student body at the elementary schools for each one of those with GPS being the largest. 65% of those that attend GPS take a yellow limousine to and from school. The enrollment for the K5s is those is is that across on the right hand side of the screen. Obviously GPS 338 GPS was built for built larger scale to maybe hold some students um to more students back in the day. So kind of here's the enrollment. May be tough to see kind of in the back end of it, but if you kind of look at the top, that's broken down by grade

025level. How many currently are in each grade. So then if you're thinking about next year, you need to move it forward. So you got 31 kindergartens in Austin right now. Next year they will be 31 in first grade. And you just kind of kind of keep moving along the way. So Mr. Poland, you will be getting 140 fifth graders coming your middle school next year. Good luck with that. This is the interd district and this is the intra district that is factored into those earlier numbers on the last screen. So for instance the interd district meaning open enrollment between two or more districts again us and Madison will say five are in kindergarten at Austinberg. Nine are in first rate at Austinberg and so on all the way across. We have 105 students currently interd

026district enrolled coming from all other places scattered throughout that those buildings there. The one on the bottom is the intra district meaning homeschool Cork I'm going to GPS homeschool home school Austinberg I'm going to Cork whatever it may be and that's kind of the numbers where they're at. So you have 24 students that that is in Austinburg that should be some at another building, 11 at Cork and and five at GPS that should be at another place and kind of broken down again by grade level there where it might be. And I've indicated what buildings they would be at. So for instance, in Austin, six of those, excuse me, five of those students should be going to Cork when they uh they could be attending Cork and 19 could be attending GPS. It's kind of

027how you would look at that along the way. So you got inter and intra which are factored into those um those items. Class sizes would brought into account the average class size is different between each of the buildings primarily in some respect because of open enrollment configurations. Part of it is different because you have three teachers at GPS and only two over at Cork and Austerberg pretty much by grade level. And as you can see Austinberg as we as I shared earlier on you have less students at a excuse me less students at Austinberg. So obviously those why those numbers are going to be going to be a bit smaller. So let's talk boundary line. So we looked at three options as a group. We kind of came up with these and those of you

028that kind of have put a picture in your of a map in your mind. Option A that was proposed by the group in the transportation department. I just call it the Austerberg line. It impacts GPS. You would move the boundary line to Centennial and south of Route 20. The result is 27 students would move from GPS to Austinberg. Second one, option B, south of 307 and west of west side of 534. That might have been east of 344. I have to double check on that one. But anyway, the bottom line is we figured it out was 22 students move from Cork to Austinberg. And the last one, for some reason, and nobody knew in the room why, but there are 17 students that are in the trailer park that should be going to Austerberg, but

029for some reason are going to Cork. And nobody in the group had a really good understanding of why when a majority of the other kids are all going where they're supposed to go. So again, Mr. Olaf pointed that out. Um, those are the number and the grade level of impacted students off to the right. So if you chose option B for instance, you would be impacting of those 22 students. Those would that would that would be the those would be the grade levels that would be impacted and those are if I remember my conversation with Scott those would be the anticipated next year grade levels. So from an interd district scenario, if you took the int district, one option was take the cork adjustment and move 12 students from Cork over um for kindergarten and

030first grade because we were as a group we were trying to tend to focus on the lower grade levels because if you focus on the lower grade levels then after a year or two they keep trickling up and as long as you keep the same pattern then you should evening things out later on. Option B was the GPS adjustment. Move 13 students from GPS. Okay. In first Austerberg, option C, select only one grade level. For example, you take all the students currently um there's nine total students that are in kindergarten um and you move them from Cork and GPS over to Austin for next year's first grade. So, you just start at the kindergart that lower level. The part of the reason why we were trying to select the lower levels was because even though

031those students those those students are currently in those buildings, they haven't been there for three or four years. Three or four years, you've made a lot of connections. Kindergarten, it's unfortunate, but we're trying to balance some things out. So, you kind of have to figure out, do you grandfather? Do you not grandfather the families and the such as you're as you're talking through these things and keep in mind that inner district families are not our voters. And every time we do o open enrollment for interd district you know we try to honor requests but you don't have we don't do not have to assign them to a particular building with a request because they are interd district they come awesome if they don't they don't. So here's what it'll look like interd district-wise the end

032result if we just move those 12 students from cork the end result would you would have 37 first graders and 43 second. So if you take a look at the up there, if you put 43 kids now at Cork, um you want look scroll through some Cork versus you move into Austin. So you would take those students and you would add them to the Austinberg numbers and just by doing that it kind of balances out first grade, even second grade, I believe I did the math right. The other one was option B. Same concept. Just moving those folks over balances things out again down at kindergarten and first grade. Actually, first and second grade, I'm sorry. Because then you would have kindergarten. So theoretically, you have kindergarten, first and second grade already balanced out. One

033more year, K 1 2 3 next year. So you kind of keep phasing that in along the way. The end result obviously. And then option C, select only one of the grade levels. We have multiple students that are o siblings that are open enrolled. So there are six students that are Austinberg, eight at Cork, eight at GPS that are multiple students, meaning they have one in first grade and fifth grade, second grade and third grade. So that goes back into the playing of of open enrollment in and whether or not um we want a grandfather or not. There's also a misnomer out there that if I am in preschool, man, it was a long time ago since I was in preschool. Um, I would be if I was in Carol's Corner, I would be going

034to GPS cuz it's right there. That's not the case. We can shuttle you to any of your home schools. So if I'm an interd district and I think I want to go to G I want to go to GPS and it's interd district open enrollment, we can say no, no, no, you're going to go to you're going to go to Austerberg, you're going to go to Cork because we can shuttle them. We have buses to pick up at Carol's Corner to take them. So that's just getting the word out and kind of clarifying a little bit of a misnomer that is out that way. But we do transport and that would help balance out some of the numbers if you just looked at your incoming start time and dismissal time and I'll I'll open up

035for questions at the back end of it because I know this is a lot and I know the board you've seen some of this stuff before. There's undoubtedly some questions. So here's a historical perspective and I didn't know this um this whole concept of start and ending times was actually held in 19 1988. The school day from what I understand was completely embedded within the uh the elementary day was completely embedded within the secondary day. Meaning you would go pick up your high school students middle school. Then you then you would go through the elementary then you would dismiss your elementary before the high school and middle school was done. So those kids would go home and then the high school middle school would get dismissed. So it was kind of embedded within the day.

036712 at that point in time was in the was a 254 dismissal. So, it was kind of right in that middle of the day. Um, there was, from what I understand, athletics was a little bit of a challenge because they were getting out of school a little later, maybe causing them late to get to events and whatnot. Um, I believe there was also a contractual issue with the union at the secondary level because they wound up working one hour more than their colleagues at the elementary level from [Music] hiding. So I looked around at all 41 districts, Asheville County, Giaga, Lake, and Trumbull. Just out of curiosity, of those 41, only 38 of the 41 have their um I mean 38 of the 41 have their high school start time before the elementary. And I

037have them kind of listed off to the off to the to the right there. Bergkshire, they're all on the same campus. Start time end time the same. Madison Elementary starts 25 minutes earlier, but they have an outside contractor for busing. Wickliff all the same campus. Kindergarten through 6 starts 30 minutes earlier than the high school. So just from a p from a perspective, over 92% of the buildings kind of run like we do where the secondary starts before the elementary. There is a ton of research out there to support swapping and having the elementary students start before the middle school and the secondary. There's sleep studies out there that say adolescence that great those like 6 through 12 or whatnot do better when they have a little bit more sleep. They say their stress levels

038are down. They say their attendance goes up because they're they're not able to get up as early. um behavioral more attentive in class perhaps. But then on the flip side, there are scheduling conflicts. It's a child care issue for our families. They can't they they they don't that would be a challenge. Transportation could be an issue. Athletic conflicts could be an issue because if you theoretically had to swap you we haven't figured this out yet, but your high school and middle school be getting done, let's just say roughly an hour, hour and 15 minutes later than what they currently are. So, if they're getting it done at 3:30, can our student athletes get to whatever game they're supposed to go to on time and can our buses get back for them? Um, again, pros and

039cons to all that. So, we were trying to figure out, you know, what are the benefits along the way? 100, but we did find out that there's 164 families that'll have a student in elementary school next year and the secondary school. So, 189 elementary students will have an older s elementary students will have an older sibling at either the middle school or the high school. and kind of broken down by that manner. When we discussed as a group, some of the group says, "Yeah, uh, parents, we we need our we need our kids home. We need our sibling, our older sons and daughters home so they can watch our little ones when they get off the bus." We had some other parents say, "Yeah, or the general feeling goes, my kids up at Starbucks. They're

040not home." one way or the other. But again, you would be if you change anything, you'd be having 164 families that you'd be impacting. So the realignment, the intent was to try to try to address our curricular alignment. We wanted to figure out a way to increase our collaboration and discussions at the grade level. Get all of our second grade teachers together. Get them all on the same page. Get all our kindergarten teachers. Get all our fifth grade teachers. Get them all on the same page. the assessments. We're all on the same page. We're all using the same curriculum. We're all having meetings regularly and all that. We can work on some classroom based and some state assessments and and maybe move those move the needle, move those scores up. We wanted similar programs. We

041wanted to balance class size, eliminate, like I said, any maybe potential stigma that may be kind of floating around, but we wanted to address the needs not only academically, but also from a social emotional level and behavior. So, the schools off to the right, again, going back to those 41 districts, those are the schools, districts that have something different than what we've got. Meaning, some of them may have a 23 configuration, some of them may have a K1 configuration, a K2 configuration, then a 35. I was going off of ours, which is a which is a K5. So, those districts up there don't have a K5. they have something different. Some of them are all on the same campus, some of them are all very very small. Lenty of reasons, but that's that was kind

042of what's in the county. The configurations that the group looked at are up on the up on the uh screen. We we looked at a prek to 12 option with one building, another couple buildings being a 35, had another option out there prek to one, one building, then a two three building, and then a four five building. We looked at route options. Um the if you ran those options there, the bus routes going bus drivers and bus routes would be going all over the place um throughout the district crossing over. It just wasn't feasible. We were finding as a group we were running the scenario that Mr. Ola was saying that we had we would have some kids uh potentially on a bus for three hours one way. This wasn't working. However, we we Ingenuity

043uh was in the group there and created bus routes to current locations and then shuttle them to designated buildings. Meaning they go currently into the buildings they're at right now. But if we decided we there was a realignment concept, then you would take for if if you designated uh GPS is a four five building, then all the four, five, fourth, fifth graders at Cork and Austenberg would get shuttled over to GPS. It would add some time on the the length of the time the kids are on the bus. It would it would necessitate some additional staffing for hours and such and we'll kind of get into that in a second. But that was really if you wanted to do a realignment that was really the only feasible way that the group could kind of come

044up with um as an idea. But from a financial implication staffing and working with um our treasurer, we thought we would need increased hours which means salaries. We think of all of our drivers, we could probably pull it off with eight shuttle drivers, we would need 12 SNAs to monitor the students while waiting for the for the shuttle runs, meaning all of their hours would increase. So if you're an SNA, that's like at seven hours, whatnot, now become eight. You factor insurance, you factor in retirement, SCS, the board share, the Medicare, the board share, the fuel cost. Mr. McDermott comes out with a number. It would cost the district $340,25942 per year to do that. What she did not take into account is listed there. There would be relocation costs for the for the for

045the um teachers classrooms because they would have to box everything up. Some of them would have to box up and move. There would have to be we'd have to allocate some time for the staff to close and open the classroom. There'd be extra trash, recycling costs, etc. There'd be increased wear and tear on the bus. she didn't factor that in there. Um, but her numbers um, up at the top in terms of financial implications when she started running those, it the salary wasn't too significant, but once you added in the benefits and the Medicare and all that stuff, um, and they start going to they would start qualifying for more insurance, most likely most of those folks would just go ahead and take it. That's how she was kind of working through that. [Music] It

046would be a cost to the district. A cost of the district. Um so we looked realignment, we looked at the the financial stuff, we looked at the staffing. Um how much time would we need? we looked at classified the positions that we would have. We we would there I would imagine there's going to have to be some bidding and some seniority um concepts I would think um through both classified and and certified job descriptions may have to be you know adjusted accordingly. Um and we have nothing in the CVAS either the teacher or the um OBC that really speaks to like this kind of scenario. So that was have a lot of dialogue. Culture of the building would is something that would obviously change when you start moving the configurations around. Mrs. Papek was talking

047about service food services. What would breakfast look like? What would staffing kind of a concept and then the other stuff off to the right there. Just some things that would have to be considered. Feedback PD building schedules equity services. How does it all get rolled out? How does it get communicated to the staff and to the families? When do you do it? If you do it kind of a concept. So, the group had their work cut out for them. That's a really broad overview of a lot of things. Um, I guess the group is I mean I can try to answer some questions from the board and or take those back to the group which is anticipating meeting on April 1st um despite it being April Fool's Day um to have those conversations if more

048info is needed or you want us to research a little bit more or or whatnot. But our goal was just to come up with some of the things behind it, present the board some options to consider and then we need we need direction after that point in time. So are there any questions that I can try to answer? So if we um what is the ex the expectation on class size for a teacher in the um I I have actually my binder up up there. Um there is a there's a there's an expert I think I want it's like 23 24. There's specific numbers per grade level. There's a couple grade levels at the higher grade level it can be like 28 like at the secondary level but from an elementary it's like 23 24.

049I have that in my folder but I can share it with you when I get back down there. Okay. But it's slightly different for kindergarten. Yes. Correct. And did we bring any outside uh con consultants or someone from OD to do any kind of transportation study when we were doing this? No. Okay. Did it We did it all in house. Mr. um Ola the first at the very first meeting he pulled up the the Transversa program which is a routing software that we use and he was able to manipulate boundary lines and when he man like he would move it over and then it tells us how many students or families that would impact. Well, what if you what if you did it over this way? And it was wonderful that we had um two

050or three bus drivers at each of the meetings too and they were able to say like hey Scott that's the wrong route or that's try this or you know there's no way we can do this or you know maybe so it was good. It was good to have their feedback. I appreciate the transportation folks for being there. Yeah, I do too. Um, so my concern with moving lines is that works for today, right? Three years down the line, we have an imbalance again. Our we're moving lines again. So, just something to keep in mind as we're working through this is I don't think we want a temporary solution. Um, and I mean from what you were showing in the beginning, it looks like if we just evaluate our inter district open enrollment students every year.

051Maybe that would take care of that. And regardless of if they went to Cork last year, if Cork suddenly has an influx of our own students, then maybe if they want to open enroll, they have to go somewhere else. And I think we're going to have to look at I think a lot of people were fixated on the number of students as a whole in the the building. We have to look at that studenttoteer ratio because that's what we're looking at in as a teacher in a classroom. If you go back to the slide. Oh, sorry. There it is. No, one more. There it is. This one, Michelle. So, right, if you look at Ashenberg, so they've got two teachers with an average class size of 13. We'll say 14 for figuring purposes because I'm

052sure there's not a half kid there to corpse 23 students to a a teacher. So although when you add up the bodies in a building, it's probably going to shake out to very close the same, but when you start comparing kids to teacher, I'm going to tell you as a kindergarten teacher, 10 kids is a real big difference. So I think that's what we have to look at. And that I think is going to be something that we have to reflect on each year when we start looking at lines in enrollment and where what we're going to do as far as open. And I think it's going to have to we may have to look at grades too because depending on I I do agree with you that it's better to do it early on,

053you know, before they make those relationships and have friends because I know that would have been devastating to my kids, too. I I don't I'm not looking to do that. But I mean, we have to look at the the quality of the education that the kids are getting when we have 10 more children in there that the teacher, you know, is trying to meet the needs of. And you can't I mean, I'm just thinking of all the things that we have to assess. You know, we've got the K and I'm just speaking because I know what I do. We've got progress monitoring every two weeks, you know, dyslexia screening. We've got the K. Everything else that we have to do with kids with li limited reading and writing ability. I can't just give them a

054device and say take this. So, we've got to have either, you know, a help or a smaller class size ratio or or time to do it. So, that's what I I that's what I'm looking at when you get into first grade. And and I mean even when you've got the second that C2 grade band is just you really just need to have those lower class sizes so that you can have that intervention system there where you can meet the needs of those kids that need that more of that one-on-one piece and that's what I'm worried about. Right. And I and I I agree with all that you've stated. That's why we're again focusing on you know the K1 K12 kind of scenario because that'll you know that'll that'll move up some of the other slides

055I talked about the inter district intra intra district some of those numbers just by simply moving some of those and holding stead pass to some of that would would help that um I also agree Beth that looking at when we were looking at it we were moving like a boundary line we weren't looking at it okay this is not this is not a next year and then you move it two years down the road. It's like Scott, if we're moving it one time, maybe like in a decade or a little bit more we got to move it based on the that dynamics, you know, of of of this, you know, the community or whatnot. I says, we're not moving this every other every third year or something. Scott, you which one is the best option

056and what he was able to show think you move you move one of those lines from one of those options whether and that that would help out. Now whether you do that in intra inter you just do that you just target the f the preschool kind of clean that up a little bit too. I mean, they're all little they're all little pieces, but all those little pieces would add up to something that that would get those numbers to Michelle, to your point, balanced out a lot better at the lower levels. And again, as they keep moving forward, as long as the district maintains that course that eventually like two, three years down the road, you're you're balanced out pretty much clear across the road, right? And that's the key point I think Beth that makes

057it a permanent if we do this now the way we're thinking of it. The reason that it's a permanent change is because we're not going to do it and then wait 10 years and look at it again every enrollment season. We need to keep this at the top of our priority list so Cork doesn't do that again. You know what I mean? And I want to know what the numbers were because this is not what I thought they were. I thought just in general that the GPS and Cork numbers would be reversed. You know what I mean? I did not expect the Cork's teachers were the ones with twice as many kids, right? So that's why we needed the numbers because to see that because there's fewer, right? So maybe we looked at that, right?

058Maybe Cork needs three sections, but will the building fit that? Yeah, there's all those all those So let me let me address a little bit of that. You are correct. Typo on my end. There are three three second grade. In fact, you just pointed it out. That was my end in terms of how how we came up with those numbers. The elementary principles. I I I asked them, "Give me the number of teachers and give me the butts and seats." So if I had a if I had a typo of you know four versus three or you would need to take one one of the other screens. It listed the number of um the number of students in a grade level. You would take that number, you would take a number of staff teachers that

059you had in that grade level. You and you would, you know, if it's five teachers to get it down to 20 kids per, it's what you look at. But until you get to that point in time, um you know, it's it's it's a not a guessing game, but it's you until you reach reach those numbers and whatnot. But please keep in mind to do this, what was it? $340,000 annually. And I know that too I want to add about GPS. I know some of you were at the meetings and we had discussed this, but when we went through the Ohio Schools Facility Commission build and the buildings were redone. Um GPS was considered a large elementary building and Cork and Austinberg were considered small elementary buildings. So GPS was designed to hold it was designed

060to be a bigger building. So it had more classrooms, more space, so it could hold it was designed to hold more students. So when you see their numbers looking larger like that, they do have more bodies there in that building, but that building was designed to hold more. So we had talked about that and I know not everybody was at those. I just wanted to share that. So when you look at those numbers, you realize that it those three buildings aren't exactly the same size and we have like a hundred more kids at GPS that we're not that we're ignoring. That building is designed to hold more children than than Cork and Austin. That's why again I think it's more important to look at the ratio. Exactly. Even more so students are in each classroom

061because that's all research says that that's what's important as far as equity of education and that's really what I'm concerned about. I want every student who comes into Geneva to get well to have the same class size in the same I don't want little Johnny Smith to have to have 25 in his class when little Susie Smith only has 15 whatever. So just to clarify to the board and I will apologize Cork at second grade has three teachers. The number is accurate typo on my end. at GPS. There are four teachers at first grade. They they made that maneuver last year, but the average class size is accurate. I do apologize for the average is is accurate. The averages are accurate. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. [Music] So, the I guess the question for the board,

062is there more information that you would like the group to look at? a scenario that you want us to look at and run some numbers at what direction um can I have as either it's for the group or it's myself or it's the administrative team. It seems cost prohibitive. Why is that 340 annual if everything readjusts? Just like Amy was just saying, you're still going to need the you're still going to need the the bus drivers with the extended time. You're still going to need the aids with the extended time. There will be transportation costs annually, all the insurance, all the Medicaid, etc. That number will not change. The year if it's done, the year that you if if the board was was a choice to do it, that first year would be even higher

063because you'd have moving expenses, you'd have additional time for teachers, what I mean, all that. that first year would be higher but then after that you go back down that 340. See I I I would think it would go lower. I would think as it goes forward it gets cheap. No. No. Not with the way the the enrollment projections are scattered and whatnot. Unless at some point you could eliminate maybe you wouldn't need seven classrooms. Maybe you would only need six because you could um all of your if all of your grades were in the same building, you might be able to I'm not suggesting we get rid of teachers. I'm not suggesting that we have teachers who um you know are close to retirement. Maybe there's a way that we wouldn't have to replace

064them. I think I guess I what I'm saying is I understand the costs. Um I I still think OD will do a free transportation study. They may see something we don't see. Um I has Has has Austinberg historically been that many less students or did they used to have a lot more students? Austin's historically been smaller, but Cork hasn't historically been this large. So they're getting ready in my neighborhood historically was larger. So something happened with the GP or with GPS and Cork. 50 of those kids would have previously been at GPS, not at Cork. Cork and Austinberg were always closer in enrollment. And that's true when it was two schools, too. When we had two city schools and two country schools, the two city schools always had a higher enrollment. It seems like our

065our boundaries have come further north to go south to Cork. Yeah. When they were trying to adjust before, now we have kids that are in the city that are transported to Cork. Some kids can literally see GPS, I'm told, but are transported to Cork. Yes. So, that happened when it was previously redrawn. So, yeah. Yeah. I'm the other concern is in Harper's Field there I know of potentially two new developments going in that could bring in even more students to that area. So, um, yeah, I guess looking at inter and intra district open enrollment, making sure we're I don't know. I just want every student in our district to have a fair and equitable ed education. And um, like Michelle said, I'm not sure if you have 13 students in one classroom and 23 in

066another. I um if that's fair and equitable um but I also if you know if it's supposed to be under 24 students in a classroom is okay then maybe we don't have a problem. I don't know. I'm I'm still processing. Well, and my question is does Cork even have room if you wanted to put another section? Is there even a room? There's not. There's no room at the end. There is. I would agree with that. There is no room at the end. There isn't. There is. And And they also have um Where's my court people? We have the autism unit. We have the preschool. We have no preschool. Head Start. Head Start. Sorry. And we have there's one other VSC unit there. So there is no there is no space there to even add another

067section. What if we move those to make room? That's just an idea. All right. Those are one unit and right now they're housing work. The spaces in the buildings are are pretty tight. There's there's if there's a room they're using it. If they're the head start and the the is that down in the hall with the kindergarten classrooms? this great. Oh, okay. Okay. And I know where the autism unit is. Okay. Guys, I I can't ever picture because I'm not spatial. So, I know that GPS is the square, right? Is Cork the one with the long hallway and the side hallways? Yes. It looks like an E. Yes. And then Austinberg's configuration is not really anyway. Okay. Did you say H kind of picture? It's an H, right? Austin if I can. It looks like

068statistically that the data is trending from Austinberg it being around say 22 and a half to be consistent less enrollment overall than Austinberg. I'm looking at Cork and Austinberg with the understanding that both have a limited capacity as opposed to GPS. That means that their overall 333 would not be possible. So if we're looking at a whole percentage of 33.3% and then we make that equitable. Let's say that we make it 4% on you know the top end um and then we do 33 even um we lose that percentage off then that means we would need to sort 15 let's say on average 12 to 15 kids that are going to Cork now to go to Austinberg which both have if you look at the way that our test scores are are printing and trending

069um you could guess our enrollment by the test scores meaning the lower the score the more the kids per teacher. If you were to equitably level that out, typically you put some people from uh Austinberg, sorry, from Cork into Austinberg and then you would alleviate maybe a few more uh kids that are are what we would say, let's say high performing. But in my opinion, we should start that in the kindergarten or lesser. It's to say figure out what our upcoming enrollment is, which I don't know how easy it is. Saying it out loud feels very easy, but getting the numbers is a whole different ball game and I'm aware of that. Um so looking at that magic eightball of enrollment if we could possibly get that and looking at that potential trend which for

070Austinberg is extremely constant um I think it's like 30 across the board. So Brock what I have pulled up there is I think one of the things you were talking about yeah looked like option B the 22 students moving from Cork to Osbury if I heard you correctly. The reason I even proposed redistricting when I first heard it is because of that trailer park and because of the autism unit and the gifted as well as special needs unit at GPS taking some of the pressure off of them. So, we can still have those high functioning children that are able to get us the same um education wherever they go, but being mindful there are people with IEPs and 504s that either really like where they're at and they're having their needs met or they need

071a marginal increase in that service, which we're aware of. And bringing those services to them, I think, is hopefully our end goal with this. And one of the um one of the one of the kind of the feedback from the parent survey amongst many things was um I I like my school. Yeah. right? Don't move my kid, especially the lower grade levels, they don't. So, that's why you look at the grandfathering and stuff like that. So, um again, it's part why we focused on the lower grade levels. It's a little bit little bit of a pal more palatable. Yeah, I guess if you're But again, this is this is remind everybody in the room, these are numbers. These but they're they're kids. They have families have feelings. Families have thoughts and whatnot. It's one thing

072to talk about a test score. one thing to talk about um you know moving kids around and you know but um but they're but their children first and foremost. So is there a direction something you want me the administrative team to I got a couple of couple of uh committee members that are even here this evening is there something you want us to do prior to the next board meeting be happy to just let me know. Oh, well, I just want to say I appreciate all the all of the work that has gone into this. Um, I think that as we move forward, um, as a district to be able to throw ideas out like this and get this kind of feedback is amazing to me. I think that we're all um, no matter where

073you land on this, I think um, we're all in it for the the right reasons, right? like we all just want our kids to have the best education we can provide. So, I just want to say thank you to um everyone who showed up that I went to the third meeting and to see that room overflowing in this district where we've been through a lot. That is a is a testament to how much our community cares about our students. And um I just want to say thank you and um let's just keep the ball rolling in whatever direction it is. Just we have to stay engaged with new ideas and um that's that's just that's where I am. I c I can't ask you to do anything else right now because I still I guess

074I have some process. I just I need to think and process a little bit because I think it's so much information and I was to to tag on to what you said. I'm just thankful that we had so many people come together and throw all the ideas out there because there are so many pieces and parts that go into getting our kids to school every day. And everybody wants the best for their children and they want them to be where they're thriving and happy. And that is I mean that's truly 90% of your child's school day is that they're happy where they're at. And I mean, as a teacher myself, the first thing I ask parents in conferences is, is your child excited to come to school? And if they say no, then that's where

075we have to start because if they're not excited to come to school, then everything else that's happening after that really doesn't matter. So, if we can have those conversations and then build from there, we're going to be okay. But I have I got to process. I got to think about this a little bit more. But I think we're in a good spot to to keep working and figure out what we can do. I just want to see those kindergarten ratios lower. Yeah. I I I'll just I was my all the way down. Yeah. But yeah. And so I think the direction I'd like to see is that we do have that April meeting. Yeah. Um and continue the discussion. I don't think we're ready to make any kind of decisions yet. No. So I think

076the direction uh is to keep moving like that said. Mr. Marajan, what did you want to add? Oh, sorry. Oh, I didn't see that. No way. Yeah, I had an email, a couple emails about like, is my third grader gonna have to switch school? Listen, this when this discussion started, I I could not ever see that that was something that would happen by the next school year. This is a this is a process. This is a a big decision and it's certainly not going to happen before next year. And that when when I threw those ideas out there, that was at the first meeting when we were literally throwing spaghetti to the wall to see what was going to stick. And in a perfect world, if we had a campus style where everybody was bus

077to the same location, that would be great. And when you when you are all coming together to talk about things, I'm going to throw all the ideas out there, crazy as they are, I'm going to say all the crazy things. So that's that's just what I do. But we have to put the ideas out there so we can start thinking forward on some of these things because a lot of the issues in schools when kids need special services is getting everybody in the same local to get the kids the services they need. And you know unfortunately the way we're set up right now it does add a little level of difficulty to get everybody you know what they need in their minutes. And you know, Kelly can speak to that, but um there's there's just

078this is a huge work in process. There's absolutely no way that could happen next school year. I don't even know. I mean, I don't even know. We're looking at the cost at the cost and the bus. And when everybody, again, when you come together to brainstorm like that, you just start throwing ideas out there. And if we all just sat in the room and looked at each other, the the meetings would have been pretty fruitless. So, and I understand why it's scary, too. Living in this district, I've seen the school district run into problems that are up against huge time constraints that need solved immediately and to hopefully give a little bit of peace of mind. In my own opinion, this is not one of those. This is a monster that is very far away

079and we'd like to have a strategy on how to deal with it proactively, right? Not when your children are facing a 13 to1 student ratio at one school and a 31 to1 ratio at another. And when we're looking at that data, which is really nice that you've compiled, we can see constants like was talking about Austinberg stayed pretty pretty consistent. On the other hand, we're looking at an incomplete data set for, you know, future enrollment on cork. I don't think I would have ever assumed that Cork had that many kids if you asked me on just my previous knowledge of the district. So that allows me to confront a bias and look at the data and have that. But Mr. Mark John, that's a really good question. Um, no, we're not going to do a

080patch job and and throw this next year and hope it works. Um, there will be a lot more input. And I think what we've got from you and Mr. Riley and other administrators is we don't have enough data to make a good decision. I think that puts it in our court to not make a decision based on your expertise. [Music] It's amazing. Yes. Well, the goal the goal of our group was more or less and I and I hope that you know kind of facilitating it and I have a couple members here. The goal of the the three meetings was to as as Michelle said throw spaghetti at the wall, throw a bunch of ideas out there. If it works, great. If it doesn't work, okay, is there a workaround? We kept Is there is

081there options? And the goal was to try to give everybody the voice. And I hopefully everybody felt I think everybody felt comfortable throwing out ideas. Is there Kelly? Is there any reason why we have to keep those units at work? Could we move them to another building? I I think I we might just have to reexamine what for our own enrollment what we have to do to you know to meet the needs of our kids versus the the county piece. I know that that I know I know I know, right? No. Is that what happened? We didn't make our buildings big enough. I know. It's been what, 15, 18 years, right? I can't hear you. What is Yeah. Why do we have Head Start there at Cork? I that decision was made long before I

082was here. Yeah. So, I I mean I I'm guessing it's a it is definitely a money piece. I'm sure that they're we're getting money for them to be there, but I think in the long haul we're going to have to make decisions that serve our students that live here. And if we need that space for our kindergarten classrooms, then we're going to have to make a decision. And at if we have to do that, we're gonna have to do that. Especially when we have a preschool at Austinberg. It's not that we don't have that early childhood piece offered in another building. So, I mean, I understand I I'm I'm all about early childhood and early learning, but I just don't know that we're going to have to figure out what we can. We're really our

083K through 12. Yeah, we're going to we really have to figure out how we can meet the needs of our K12 students first. And I know that's probably a really bitter pill to swallow, but I mean, we've got to take care of our our kiddos that are and we have preschool a beautiful preschool program at Austinber. I I mean I I feel like if we again had some conversations about how to figure we could probably figure that out. So, a great question and hopefully we can get I don't think that it's has anything to do with the levy passing. I think it has to do with the fact that we're, you know, ideas like this, you have to have lots of conversations with people that come from lots of different places to make those decisions.

084I mean, well, I think we have a lot of the information. What we need now is to process and think about Yeah. the decision we want to make. Me personally as a board member, let me let me talk about that, please. So me as a board member, a one of five vote, I want to know that when I make that vote, I'm voting for what I believe is best for this community. That's how I make all my votes. It sounds silly, but and that's I think what we as a group make. We need to keep talking about it and looking at this side and looking at that side and processing it. Then each of us individually and as a group will be able to make a decision whether or not we want to make this

085move. So that's where we are. True. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't I don't know that we need to have I don't know that I don't I don't know that we need another meeting honestly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's a great question. That is great. I I don't know. I don't know that you can bring anything to it. What I would like to know, I can personally say I would like to see what we could do as far as like the Head Start piece. Could we find another Couldn't we find another room at court to break down and and get more to break up that those kindergarten numbers? That's not something that you're able to bring to the meeting. So, so as far as what you could bring to

086the meeting, honestly, nothing. Probably cookies, a smile. I don't know. I mean, I brings a good I know somebody said cookies. I was just gonna say that, ladies. Usually that's Dave, but I I understand what you're saying, but maybe after we've kind of pro like gone gone over this, thought about it, we can confer with Mr. Riley, maybe come up with a general consensus where we communicate. If there's a need for the meeting, put an agenda together and we have it and we push that agenda out. And then if there isn't, we just say, you know what, this is how we're going to move forward and that's that. Thank you for framing it like that. I didn't think of it like that before. So, thank you. So right look in that meeting. You're right. Thank

087you. Thank you for indulging selfish ask if you could let us know what the issues with those three changes if they would present any hardships, right? Like let's say I choose option B and I think it's the best option ever. But it puts your kids like you're now going from Cork over to Aenberg and for you that's like a 17 minute additional commute which is now 34 minutes because you're doing it both ways. things like that and then like would open enrollment help fix it? Is it a deal breaker for you? I think parents having that conversation gives us a clear picture of what our current snapshot is. Um but I think a lot of parents already have said that. You probably already have brought that up. So if that's not new information, then I

088don't know. Well, and that's the other thing as always tell us, right? Email me any minute, you know, and and tell me I love this idea or this will really hurt my family or whatever, right? Tell us what your own impact would be. Okay. Thanks, Dave. Thank you very much. Welcome. Thanks. You're welcome. And committee. Okay. Number four. Number four. A closer review are the following new slashrevide revised policies for board adoption. those in a separate folder in my drive. I believe it was I believe it was Mark Neiola policies. I think spring updates spring update. Yeah. The first five, six pages or whatever is a um say legal update, but it's a synopsis of all of the policies and kind of give you a heads up of, you know, if if it's a house

089bill or if it's just a a name change or whatnot or new regulations or whatnot. This is first read. This is This is first This is first read on all these that are listed. Yes. What did we read in February? The one below it, what you read in February is going to be item number five. Oh, right. Okay. [Music] So, no vote on this. No. Um just as just so the board is a is aware on a few of these um you know I did consult um the the supervisor or legal for instance the last 18500 food services Mrs. Papic and I sat down together and went through that one. Um there's another one in here that was dealing with um college credit plus program. Mr. King and I and his counselor sat down and

090went through that one. And the um other one I believe it was I want to say the parents nope the release time for rel religious instruction during the school day number 5223. Um I can some concerns with the wording from Neola. So I I saw our legal counsel and they gave me some ideas and some thoughts and they helped with that. So when in doubt, we did reach out to the entities that maybe are directly responsible for that just to ensure that we were not only in compliance, but it was it's kind of what the practice is. And the one that is lined out, does it have a replacement or is it just gone? The bottom one, it is. It is gone. It's gone. All right. I need a motion, please. No, no, we're just

091reviewing for four. I'm sorry. Had myself. Okay. All right. Number five. The interim superintendent recommends the following new revised policy for board adoption. This would be policy 8142 that was presented last last month. This is second. We getting ready for a vote, right? Yes. So move. Second, please. Second. Roll call. Mr. Pearson, yes. Mrs. Cyolski, yes. Mrs. Craig, yes. Mrs. Milikin Dixon, yes. Motion carried. The interim superintendent recommends that the following supervisor be hired on a three-year contract according to the supervisor's contract guidelines and subject to meeting certification requirements of the state of Ohio. So move. Second. I have a question. is the two to three. Was that just a clerical error or was that a contract decision? It was a it was a contract decision. Um essentially the the first year is this school

092year, so it's only three months. So it's kind of a two-year and three month situation. Gotcha. Mrs. McDermott and I felt comfortable moving in this direction. Okay. Any other discussion? Roll call, please. Mr. Pearson. Yes. Mrs. Cyolski. Yes, Mrs. Craig. Yes, Mrs. Milikin Dixon. Yes. Motion carries. The interim superintendent recommends the following personnel actions for the 2024 2025 contract year. [Music] What was the difference in the cost of the statements for the admin? I was going to ask that too, but do we have to do a motion first? Oh, so moved. Can I have a second, please? Sorry. Second. Now, what's the difference in that? It is the depth and the complexity of and the time constraints that those responsibilities were kind of doled out. Okay. Um, in many cases, they're taking significant hours after

093their normal school day to kind of work through those, right? And those are now all of what would be um assistant superintendent. No, no, some of the some of the some of the small Ron is Ron is not um Ron has been coming uh maybe I had to average two hours a month maybe sometimes we just talk on the phone to you know clear clarify things but um no well so what that's when We have volunteer coaches. Are we running background checks on them? To my knowledge, yes. In the state of Ohio in our bylaws, we would need to do a DWC check and it might have even been expanded to state legislature to now include an FBI cross as well with a little snapshot. I believe Mr. Riley had gave us a briefing on

094that earlier. I think I couldn't remember. One of Yeah, I remember talking. Mrs. Cyolski, yes. Mrs. Craig, yes. Mrs. Milik Dixon, yes. Mr. Pearson, yes. Motion carries. So report of the treasurer Shelley has the financials in the drive. Do we want to do a motion and then we can discuss? Yeah, the resolution. The resolution. So moved. Second. Okay. So she has the resolution authorizing the e execution and delivery of master electric energy sales agreement between the district and power for schools endorsed electric supplier NG Resources LLC information. Mr. Mr. Rally, do you know if this is something that we've historically done or if this is I believe it's um from the the email we received um the way it came across it sounds like this is something we do the cough savings benefit from an

095electrical standpoint and we were encouraged to um take action on this this evening because I think it is due to their office on Monday of next week. We just received the email last week and it's it looked like it was Ohio school council for two years. Correct. Ohio schools council, OSBA, etc. There any further discussion? Everybody good? Roll call, please. Mrs. Craig, yes. Mrs. Milikin Dixon, yes. Mr. Pearson, yes. Mrs. Cyolski, yes. Motion carries. The treasurer recommends that the board approve the disposal of the attached list of assets as they are no longer of any use to the district. Some items will be traded in or sold at public auction using public surplus. So moved. Second. Discussion. Roll call. Mrs. Milican Dixon? Yes. Mr. Pearson? Yes. Mrs. Cyolski? Yes. Mrs. Craig? Yes. Legislative report. Mr.

096Pearson. Thank you. Um, so I'm still keeping up to date on this. There's a whirlwind since this year started. What I've been keeping my eyes on the most has been House Bill 96. Um, it's going to be looking at six-hour education and service safety hours as it relates to bus drivers. This also looks like Duke is going to be looking at safe busing, safe busing strategies, route strategies, etc. Um, but it doesn't look like they've actually consulted with anyone who drives yet. So, it's very coarse and very raw. I would imagine that once it's put in context um that that a lot of things will change in this bill. So I'm not going to get too far into it. And uh just to reiterate that u Senate Bill 62 exists and it's basically the Senate's

097introduced version of HB3 and HB96 which go over safe busing. Um basically the three main points right now are this. Um it's going to make August bus safety month. You're going to be able to do six hours of inservice that are able to be completed in person or online depending on what you need and it is going to increase the fine if you are caught passing a school bus. Um so those are the three big meat and potatoes pieces of that legislature which I think most people will agree are a good thing. Um OC 3313.474 has been codified and amended. Uh basically this puts uh grade 9 to 12 uh in contact with their IDs and planners to have the suicide help hotlines. Things like uh immediate crisis, mental health crisis, things like that. They'll

098have that resource on their written either school IDs or planners. Um OEC they uh further defined when they've been asked by different state lobbying organizations that domestic partners will be included in uh family members. This includes long living couples that have children. Um just because they're not married, they can still do things like transport uh children or make bus revisions, you know, so long as they have the the guardians approval. We have a slew of executive orders that many people have seen. Um executive order 14168 from the federal level. It addresses genders and sports. Makes it so uh any assigned gender plays their sports. There's no co-curriculars in that regard. EO uh14173 eliminates Civil Rights Act of 1965 protections no longer categorizing color, religion, sex. I think there's 13 protected categories. They're no longer considered

099um to be material elements of employment or um student body. Uh the executive order 14123 eliminates workforce balancing based on religion or sex and calls it wrongful discrimination. Uh, executive order 14173 uh allows the AG to report on what it deems illegal discrimination. It specifically cites the practice of DEI. Um, its goal is to create reports about any type of uh school district that engages in such activity and then make a report to the federal government in which to request a denial of funds. Executive Order 14188 uh addresses anti-semitism. This is more for college campuses that saw Palestinian Israeli protests that then um bled over into interpersonal contexts. Um there's not really a lot of guidance on this for our school. However, it does technically affect us because of the way the executive order was

100written. Um of course, I don't think that we have that issue on our our in our schools. So, it's not a big deal. It's still an executive order that affects us. And then EO14190 ends any gender ideology uh discriminant equity or DEI teaching implementation or enforcement uh that occurs in K or preK schools. Uh this also goes on to uh guide that they want to enforce the implementation of a constitutional class that teaches um the founding of the United States and the constitution and its uh its implication for school children. And then last we have uh EO14191. This is a one that addresses a host of funds. The way that I could best explain it is it affects funds for for title one military families, those that open enroll, and the accessibility of how we

101divvy up that internal fund for those specific people. If we remember at the beginning of last year, I believe there was a a big focus on allowing military families to have more lax approaches to open enrollment since they may be given a different designation or assignment based on MOS availability and to allow that to occur. Um, they've more substantially covered that in an EL14191. Um, the best way if you look up funds for families on the state level, there's a little breakdown of the analysis there. And I think that's it for me. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. A tech report. Uh, yes. Our meeting is going to be tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. And I believe with the nice weather, the construction should be going along smoothly. Yes, it smells. We will have none of that

102negativity here. My first just came out. I don't want to hear it. And my grandma always said it snows three times. All right. It is the time of meeting for public comment. Do we have anybody that would like to speak? [Music] again the handout that I shared with you all um I had Amy copy it was for a parent a parent request but she didn't come so I guess board member reports you don't have my phone my list is on my [Laughter] I was going to say, does anybody else have anything else while she I just have a few things. Sure. One, uh, in one of the retirement blurbs in our our page here, I saw that, um, is it Mrs. Allison? Yes, I know. They never paid her enough to deal with my unruly

103butt. She made me sing the Barney song in front of my mom. It was the most effective strategy of all time. Probably would be frowned upon now, but woo did I listen to Miss Allison. Um, a staple at the lake. And thank you so so much for everything. Um, truly. The second piece I have is is not as uplifting. Um, or maybe as stern and threatening as Mrs. Allison. Um, but I did receive a concerning email today actually and I believe um, and and Mrs. Marty uh Dixon, Milicanin Dixon did as well from our band director who showed that um she's been looking at the attempt to potentially leave uh because she feels that the engagement with the community, upper staff, um parents waivers in a way that's not consistent and sometimes she feels like

104she's at the directive um of a bunch of external forces and not necessarily to the board and that there isn't consistent attention on the music program. I personally in just my own opinion tend to agree with that and I wanted to ask um if there was the potential for us to review this in some manner so we could maybe meet with her maybe just two of us even and kind of get a feel for what the concerns are and potential remedies. I think that having Miss Milikin Dixon there is essential especially with the service that you've done with the band and the choir which I think is pretty immersive. Not not maybe have that, but I'd like to get to the root cause of that and help alleviate some of her frustrations or at least

105get a pulse on what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I I I was going to talk to her personally, but if you want to sit down and have an official, let's do it. Yeah, I think that's the best option. Yeah. I was just going to bury his day, but let's No, I know. And I think concerns. I think what happens here is is she's so she's so good at what she does. can succinctly summarize so many things in a quick amount that we think it's taken care of. We don't realize that there might be a lot more behind that for her and I I want to make sure that I advise on Dave. Can you facilitate that? Sure. Define facilitate set up the meeting. Set up help myself. Miss Brown, you Mike. Yeah, I

106was I was going to suggest that again not privy to what the email stated other than what you just mentioned, but I would I would hope that Mr. King at the very least would maybe he already knows. I I don't know. Yeah, but certainly I didn't see who the recipients were. It was you just you I believe it was just you and I, right? Yeah. And actually I missed a phone call from her as well. So and I I will reach out to her as well. I just want to make sure that I told her that I'd bring this to the public and asked her. I think you saw if that was okay and she said absolutely. So, I want to make sure one, I'm I'm meeting my commitment that I want to open that

107up in the public in session with all of you. Um, and two, she did show me an availability for next week. I believe maybe Thursday afternoon. Um, so I will go ahead and get that date and propose that around to everyone so long as that's within my ability to do so. Perfect. Thanks, Rob. Yeah, thank you all. That's all I have. Um, I would like to go to board leadership institute. I didn't bring that. Wait, maybe I didn't the dates and stuff. It's two and a half days in Columbus. Um Shelley has my registration info. She's just waiting for board approval. If we can do that, I appreciate it. When is that? Um yeah, that's I'm looking. Was it Is it May? Did I see you? Sorry. Oh, yeah. May 1st, second, and third. So,

108it's not on the agenda, so we can't vote. Let's put it on April. Is this March? Yeah, let's put it on April's agenda. That'll be another I I have one that I'm going to propose at the next meeting as well for legislative leazison for it to be okay for it to be approved it's got to be an agenda item. So I almost forgot to ask legislative yeah and I have the dates. I just I have to look at there's there's three days and I think I only need to go to one or two of them. Do you want to do you want to go ahead and send that to Shel or do you Yeah, I was going to send it to Shel already. I just wanted to give you guys a heads up. I didn't

109want to miss it if I was supposed to. Okay, got it. Uh the other thing is I wanted to comment really quickly about our policy meetings. We started doing them. Um the last one had um Mrs. Bzenko and Mr. Riley and myself and what we're currently doing is going through all the changes that are being h passed down from the federal level, right? All the legislative update that Mr. Peterson just shared, all of that impacts our Geneva schools policies. So, we're looking at each of those and how we have to change it according to new federal laws. My plan initially was to start just going through every policy and making sure it says what we want it to say and that it reflects accurately what our students and families need. And so, we've gotten a

110little bit detourred um by the legislation coming down. So, that's what we're working on. So, I wanted to share everybody that really quickly. Um, Freaky Friday was hysterical. If you missed it, it was like the actors in the room. Um, it was really it was really, really cute and a great message, right? Parents, don't forget you used to be teenagers and teenagers, don't forget that your parents used to be teenagers, you know, the whole thing. Um, the Broadway dinner, I also came to the Broadway uh brunch. I came on the Saturday that was brunch. It was Outstanding. There were freshman 14 years old singing songs that I can't well not sing but you know that I that I really difficult songs. I talked to a parent and grandparents for like 10 minutes telling them how

111amazing I thought their child was to sing Andrew Wber which is written for someone with an eight octave range. If you don't know what that is, it's singing super high like a soprano and super low like a bass. And this child sang this beautiful song and I just it was amazing. So, I just want to share all that. That's all I got. No, I I'll second what Marty just said. What talent we have with our uh the Broadway show was really impressive. That young lady that she's talking about. Yes. Holy cow. Yeah, amazing. Amazing. She Yeah, she was really good. Um I also had the pleasure of attending the um NHS induction. Um I apologize to those who were there. I was a nervous wreck. They asked me to be the guest speaker and um

112it was awesome. The kids are amazing. We really um they highlighted them so well. Um the Mrs. Debbacher did a great job pulling it all together. Um I also had the pleasure of attending the winter sports meeting. The number of scholar athletes that we have again I you cannot get over when you as you are around these students. We are so fortunate and thank every um adult who interacts with these kids every day. We you're really doing an amazing job. Um and I thank you for that. Um, I was at Kanyot the day that A Techch found out, the A Techch students found out that they got accepted into a tech. How cool that was. They got little goodie bags with a t-shirt and that was really neat. They do it here, too. Yeah, I

113they do it all through the county, but I had never seen that before. And the smiles on these kids' faces, they were just lit up when they found out they got to go to a tech. It's really we really do have a gym there. We're lucky. Um I was glad to witness that even though it wasn't in Geneva. Um and then the red bow race is coming up. So that is April 5th. Um hopefully um you can find a way to support that uh support that effort. I have a donation but I can give it to you. I'm not I don't Am I running it? Who do I give it to? I'm going I'm walking. I'm not running. If there's a is it a donation for the board? Yes. Basket and whatnot. You can give

114that to me and I'll give it to in the morning if anybody has anything. I know she's been shopping. So, I was able to go to I was also at the winner um sports awards. Again, I second what Beth said about the number of scholar athletes. It's crazy. Um, I kind of got to watch the swim program grow grow because our son swam as well and it was a lot small. I mean it we had a good amount of kids but it was definitely smaller when Cooper was swimming and the amount of kids in our swim program now is it is amazing and I think I counted the scholar athletes from Geneva. I think we had 29 scholar and so those are kids that have a 3.5 or above. Um, and I it was literally

115most of our team like I it was just to see them all come up and get their award and then like it was the whole team. It was just it was amazing. Um, and then we also because Geneva hosted the all county swim meet this year, we also had we not had to but we were um blessed enough to host the all county swim award. So that meant all the the teams in Ashtabila County came here to have the all county uh swim. So, we also got to enjoy another ceremony in this lovely room and honor all of the swimmers in Asheville County and that's another great event because this is, you know, a sport that really was non-existent not too long ago and it has grown by leaps and bounds in all the schools

116in our our community. And I mean, again, our kids have been a lot involved in a lot of sports, but the swim families are they're like top notch. They're they're a really they're a sweet group of people and we have a lot of fun and we laugh a lot and you just kind of become a family and and their kids become like you know Sarah just drives Julia around like she's like because Julia doesn't drive yet. She's like oh I'll find a ride and here comes Sarah with Julia. So um or Abby Griffith is driving Julie all over. But yeah it's just just a really really great group of kids. Um uh what else was I gonna say? Oh, tomorrow evening, um, we're going to we're wrapping up. I'll just kind of tie in, um,

117our superintendent, uh, search. We're having an event here where we're hosting stakeholders. Um, it's kind of a first that we we're doing. Um, we're gonna Mr. Riley's part of it. We have three other uh, candidates and Mr. Mark John is part of it as well. So, um, we'll be hosting them here. Um, it's going to be two parts and we're looking forward to it. hoping it's going to be, you know, a really unique situation where we can get to know the candidates that are vying for that position for our district. So excited to see how that that comes out. Um, let me think there's anything else I was a part of. The Broadway show was amazing. That's the first time I've ever enjoyed that. I The talent of the kids that we have in this

118district just blows my mind just every time. So, yeah, amazing. But I think that's all I have. I want to add one piece of sad news. Mrs. Audrey Hayes, yes, died in February. She taught art here at Geneva schools for 36 years. She was an active member of the teachers union on the grievance committee, but more importantly, she inspired generations of artists and non-artists alike. If you took her art class, you knew that your talents had no bearing on whether or not she valued you, whether or not she appreciated you and encouraged you. And I've heard so many non-art type people, you know, who went into math or some of those things that I don't know anything about, and how they said they took it as an elective and it was one of their favorite

119classes. She was a true hippie. Like a true like love everyone for who they are. Excuse me. Excuse me. And creativity. Just be creative in however way you want. And if you sat there and listened to the music that we were allowed to bring in on a record player um and created art, that was good enough for her. If you created from your heart and made a piece of your own personal artwork, that was good enough. That was an A+. and uh she'll be sorely missed. Her son Nick was the valadictorian in my class. Couple knocked over me. And uh I just wanted to share that with her because she will be miss. Thank you. And one other thing I wanted to add, we had two of our uh students honored in the uh junior

120achievement 18 under 18. Um Abigail Griffith who is a senior here at Geneva High School was one of them honored. And we had uh Kayn King also honored. I believe she is a junior. So, two of our very own Geneva High School kiddos that were honored. So, Junior, I think she's a junior. Junior. Yeah. I have I have one last closing thing. We have an alumni from Geneva that just passed away a few days ago. Um, Tina Scabona is an attorney that I work with and a alumni of Geneva who got her law degree and um was actually working for the county. One of highest regarded public defenders and in a very strange turn of events after recovering from surgery, she passed. I believe her sister is in attendance tonight. Um. Oh, yeah. and I

121worked alongside Tina, so I've been crying a lot this week. And I know that she would make fun of me with the most infectious chuckle of all time, but I just wanted to acknowledge that for all of her contributions to alumni band, to Gamba, um to the community, to people no matter what, based on representing anyone who couldn't even afford it. And that was what she did for fun. She thought that was the right thing to do. Um and it shows the uh the quality of uh the graduates that we put out of the school. So, I'm going to miss Tina a lot, but I hope that in her memory there's there's a lot more people that act like her. Thanks. I have one more thing. If you'd like to donate uh in le of

122flowers for Mrs. Hayes, she wants donations to the Geneva schools art club. So, there's that. I have a motion to do the you have item number L. Oh, we did. You know what? She jumped ahead to the policy committee. Oh, I sure did. I didn't realize that I'm sorry. Um, so the athletic facility discussion, did you want that a little bit? Little tidbit. We met last night or I can talk a little bit about it. Sure. I wasn't a lot of talking today. Oh, I Hey, Mrs. Craig, it's your turn. Okay, so uh last night we had a stakeholders meeting um that we several of us were included in. I know uh Mr. and Mrs. Mark John were there, Mr. Riley was there, I was there for the um athletic facility discussion. We uh had

123a presentation from um GPD group which are the um architects that are going to be helping us design and provide renderings of what the facility will look like. Um we are in very much the infancy stages of this plan. Um we're basically doing a lot of uh chopping and saying yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. Um lots of discussions. We chimed in with a lot of we'd like to see this, we want that to go. Um we basically ended the evening. Uh we had a lot of people share some thoughts about what we'd like to see. We had some student um athletes that were there that shared their feelings about what it's like to be at Spire. Um it's a really hard place to be if you don't have a firsthand experience of what it's

124like to be a student athlete or a band member at Spire. Um I know a lot of people in the community automatically say, "Well, you should just go back to Memorial Field." And most of us know that that's not possible. But there's there's definitely that [Music] um there's that feeling in the community that that's still a possibility and it is not a misnomer in the community that that's a possibility and it is not. Um, so we had a lot of discussion about how we're going to have to approach the community and deliver that message um to our our voters, our community members that that is not feasible any longer. Um, of course we talked dollars and cents and we're still refining what that's going to look like before we push that out to the community.

125Um, we asked the gentleman from GPD to I believe his name was Russell. Yes. Okay. Russell. So, we asked Russell if he could I'm a I'm a big visual learner. So, I said I like colors and I like columns and and he says we can do that and I and price tags on things. So what you know we talked a lot about phases of the project so that we could when we start talking about this with the community we can say we would like to see this first and this would be the first phase of the project and this is how much it would cost and basically like an alocart item where you drag things over and put them in a shopping cart and say okay this is how much it's going to cost. Now

126I know um our treasurer has Mrs. Mcder has some concerns because we definitely want to know what we're looking at because this is something that you don't want to go and ask multiple times, you know, to your community about we need this much money and then do it over and over again. So, there was also a lot of talk about, you know, what grants are out there, what can we apply for, um do we have, you know, people in the community that want to make donations? So, this this meeting was definitely a a brainstorming session of what this could look like and what we want to do and what we want it to look like when we meet again. So, hopefully we'll have more information and a a rendering that'll look more like what we

127would prefer as far as phases and how we can kind of pick and choose what we would like and then we'll be able to move forward. And then Mrs. McDerma al was not there last night and she's on vacation this week. So, we will have her back in house as well. um and she would be, you know, a big part of that conversation um too. So, we also talked about um you know, levies expiring. Um we have the 1.25% uh that's going to be expiring. I did double check that and it's not 2030. It is it's going to so that's going to be 2028 and it will fall off. We will stop collecting in 29. So, um you know, we could have conversations about what that would look like. we could, you know, roll that

128back where it's not if we want to go again. We just had a a PI levy fail three times. We tried three times. It's been on since the 50s. Generated $200,000 a year and we couldn't get it passed. Tried three times. So, our history in this district with passing levies right now. Not good. So we have to have our approach to this has to be multiaceted and we have to have a very succinct and clear message about what we're doing and that it is for the community and we're we're talking about things that we want to include the community in. We talked about pickle ball courts. We talked about disc golf. You know a track that the community can come and walk. You know, my dad goes and and wants to walk and exercise at

129Spire and multiple times has been told, "You can't walk here. We you can't be here." So, we don't want that for our community. We want something that people drive by and say, "Hey, that's where my grandson plays football, but you know what? I go there and walk on the track when I when the weather's nice. I'm allowed to be there." And that's what we want. We want that inclusivity for all the people that live here. So when we come to the community, when we have GPD come and represent and have that rendering, we want to have all those pieces and parts in place so we can answer your questions and have that picture delivered and say this is what we're looking at and this is what it's going to cost and this is our plan.

130So that's kind of a snapshot of what we talked about last night. Michelle, are swimmers on our list to address? We love about swimmers. We love our swimmers. Here's my here's my stance on that. No, not in this project. Right. Um I have It's kind of funny because last week I had like four or five people say to me, "We have to play nice in the sandbox." I said, "Is everybody just saying that to me because I teach kindergarten or what?" But I've always said all along that we really need to have learn how to play nice in the sandbox with Spire because what are the odds that a high school is going to have access to an Olympic size swimming pool? Yeah, we have no We do not need an olymp. We have Spire.

131But we have to learn how to play nice in the sandbox with them. I mean, we don't we really don't want to be there. We have to have a plan, folks. 27, we're done. And, you know, one of the pieces that I want to talk to Shelley about is working out what it's going to cost us if we have to renew that contract with Spire, which none of us want to do. But if we don't move forward with this and we have no plan with Spire, we're looking at a community with no football, no track, and no soccer. And that's the real deal, folks. If we have nowhere to go, there's nowhere for these kids to play sports. So that's that this is why we're coming together and having these conversations because we have to

132have a plan and we cannot kick this can down the road any longer. So when back to swimming and and I I want to I mean indoor track is another one too. We have our kids in the in the winter that participate in indoor track. Beautiful facility. So, we have to have a plan to work with them. And I think that by what we're doing and and honoring our part of the agreement, getting out of there and not being they're building their business. They've got plans, too. And and that's great. And their plan doesn't include us being there. Wonderful. But if we can honor our part of it and they honor theirs, then we can continue to be there and swim and use their facilities for indoor track and life will be good. What about

133other options for swimming? Madison Y. Should be a little Y Flood Memorial Pool. Huh? Always that. Oh, yeah. Let's build a pool. Memorial Field. It's already half lake. I know, right? Um, swimming at fire. So, you know, the the why pools are not They're not They're not Oh, they're not. Okay. And so, there's a So, just speaking from like our swimming experiences, we've had So, there's only a couple places we go that are not at Spire. So, typically we have CBC's at Hawin, which is a much smaller venue, smaller pool. The kids always complain that they never swim as well because it's the way the pool is laid out, the current, it's different. They never have their best times there. There's very rare pe that you would PR in that pool. Um, Beachwood sometimes host

134and we go there. I mean, I'm laughingly saying this, but my son and his relay team called it the covered wagon. He goes, "We're going to the covered wagon to swim today." Like it's like this natiatorum that it's like a cedar, very very dated, but it's very small and everything is like up really high and it's a cedar. So you're like sitting like this on top very like three lanes. So what happens is you've got a swim meetat that lasts for hours because and it's already an hour away. Exactly. So most spoiled. Yeah. We are spoiled. We are so spoiled. So Yes. So, we want to make sure that we do this the right way so that we continue continue to use that. This just occurred to me the other night when I met a

135swimmer who's also an actor and singer. I think who just won I forgot he just won something. Anyway, um I was like, "Oh, right. Swimming." Ethan Regal. Yes. Yes. And 11th in the state. What are we gonna do about our swimmers? So we still have that agreement with them and hopefully all will be well. But again, we just we need to have a plan. So that's what we're working assuming it's probably profitable and nonissue for what we're looking for. Absolutely. Our thing is taking 4hour chunks out of one of the main fields there. I think go sports. But I think that that's the biggest thing because they're they're I mean they're like advertising like I have an ad console so I can like you kind of peek on other people's ads on Facebook. I mean,

136Spy is going hard right now. Instate. They have a big push for instate tuition, and it looks to me like they might be seeking a collegiate accreditation. I think that's part of the silver sneakers being ended, right? Because I think you can't have strange men. Yes, you can't have strange men. What? Wandering around. And they don't have my mom and her friends either. They used to swim for free and walk for free and they just don't anymore. I know. They're not allowed. I know. So, so that's what that's the update on that. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thanks. All right. Now, I move we adjourn this meeting. I can I get a second? Second. Roll call. Mr. Pearson? Yes. Mrs. Tyolski? Yes. Mrs. Craig? Yes. Mrs. Milikin Dixon? Yes. Motion carries. Mr. B. Hard.

137You didn't fix my phone. Yeah. Yeah, I do. You Marty and and