001I don't chck said your socks are too dist corn I used to have a sock subscription right here problem it is 6:30 who that's close it is 6:30 we'll get wait for just a few more minutes if you did not grab a sheet it's kind of a checklist it's right there at the door when you came in on the circular table if you want to grab one or two as many of as you want we'll start in about two or three minutes will all right I think we're gonna go ahead and get started uh thank you for joining us this evening my name is Steve Baker principal at bluon high school and Sebastian baxer is joining me our school counselor and we want to share with all of you tonight an exciting opportunity that bluon
002high school has been working on I would say on and off for a year and even more trying to bring this program this opportunity to our students and we think that it will be good for our students and the best way to get students involved is to educate educate the parents educate the students so you know what it is you know what it isn't and does this fit my child's path through high school and Beyond I'll tell you right now this isn't for everyone one that's why we have many great programs at bluon high school we could talk about our CTE Career Technical uh education program with our welding and advanced manufacturing culinary arts business computer science so many great opportunities and credentials that go with that this is simply another opportunity that we would
003offer to students who say yes I'm going to college I have a pretty good idea that I'm going to go to college for the for the for the long term I want to get a degree this will help you and your child take a launch off the Launchpad and be ready for college and as we talk about it not only be ready for college but to start college before you ever get your high school diploma so the parents that are sitting here tonight along with me this was never an opportunity you did four years of high school you got your diploma you did four years of college or more and then two never mixed now they call it these lines are blurred because where does high school stop and where does college start well in
004this building is where it will start so we want to explain this opportunity to you please hear me it this is all volunteer you please decide if this is something you want for your child it's not mandatory I would call it a bonus to the diploma you're getting but something that I think will be very beneficial so we're going to talk about the IC okay so what is the ICC ICC stands for Indiana college core these are 30 credit hours college credit hours that all the universities and colleges got together in Indiana and they said your freshman year these would be the electives for the most most part that if you went to any college you're going to take basically these general core classes whether you go to Ball State PFW IU ivtech anywhere in
005Indiana your freshman year looks like a lot of electives parents if you remember going to college you remember doing that this does not address any major if you want to go be an accountant this does not address that if you want to be a welder again we have certification for that this is basically the electives that you would do your freshman year you would do before you leave high school so when we say 30 college credit hours you think about that in terms of college talk you usually take about 15 credit hours a semester 15 in the fall 15 in the spring that's roughly about five classes each at three hours a piece that's where you come up with your 30 credit hours and we'll talk about what are those classes in a little bit
006but understand when we say Indiana college core any college and university that your child is interested in in Indiana will know about it will accept it and apply it to where they will be going they will not say I've never heard of this before or I'm sorry we can't apply this they're the ones who made this so the colleges will accept it guaranteed public and most private and like I said the first year of college is basically done if this is done at high school and we'll show you how it's going to be a lot of work you can finish a four-year degree in three years you can finish a four-year degree in four years and take fewer hours every semester you could finish a six-year degree in a shorter period of time but let's
007just take the standard four-year degree ree if I'm a student and it takes me four years to get my degree and I completed my first year at bluon high school parents think about this that's anywhere from 20,000 to $50,000 in savings if you get it at bluon almost all of the classes are free or at most I think our highest one is $750 per class I think even less than that even less than that so the courses here are much cheaper and most of them are free if you take these exact same classes in college depends on the college it'll cost you anywhere from $40,000 hear me we don't get any of that money this is not for bluon high school this is 100% for you we want to make it available to you we
008want to make sure you know about this opportunity how you would achieve that is through really three different Avenues and which we'll get get to in a little bit there are teachers here that are called dual credit credentialed that means they got their four-year degree in some area of teaching then they went back to school and got their Master's plus another 18 credit hours in that subject area so he's here visual is always better to make an example coach kungle Mr kungle I saw him there he is he had a four-year degree in social studies out of Purdue he comes and teaches he along with other teachers find out about this opportunity he went back to school got his Masters in secondary education plus 18 credit hours in his area of econ now Mr kle
009can teach dual credit classes just like the professor at ivtech or PFW so why is it called dual credit dual to so when Mr conle teaches econ your child's in that class your child let's say they get an A would receive an A in econ that is a requirement for them to graduate from bluon high school and it's also three hours that now go toward the Indiana college core dual credit college credit and High School Credit One class does that make sense we have lots of teachers who have taken on this additional responsibility we have them in every Department in our building Math Science Social Studies English foreign language which will all be up here and again that doesn't even include the CTE teachers who have dual credit that's a separate animal so many of
010our teachers are dual credit credentialed so they can offer these classes while they're still in high school you also might have to do an AP class or two we have AP in world history physics chemistry if you pass the test that will also go toward 30 college credit hours and toward your ICC ICC is a bundle they're called stackable credits they're the one those credits again are the ones that the colleges say we want you to take these and get them done before you go on to your second year in college so these are stackable credits mean they mean something when they're done it's not just 30 hours of all kinds of different dual credits their very specific categories six in fact of what they'll be drawn from so why should we do this right
011off the bat I'm GNA be honest with you that's a big one the cost savings to you and again I'm just being upfront we don't get any money zero in fact it costs us money because sometimes we help that teacher get their Master's or plus 18 so we're investing into our teachers investing into you we won't see that money you will and it will be a huge cost savings let me stop because one of the questions is going to be I see 30 credit hours 30 credit hours 30 credit hours what if my son or daughter can only get 20 credit hours toward this Indiana college Corp go for it every dual credit class you earn is money saved and one step closer to college graduation so it's not 30 All or Nothing so if
012you take five dual credit classes while you're here at three a piece three that's 15 hours you're halfway there that's all I can do Mr Baker okay now you have 15 hours going to college your first semester is done does that make sense 30 is the entire package anything short will still transfer to college it just won't be called Indiana college core because it's not all of them okay we also believe that if you complete your first year in college your attendance rate we'll we'll be sending more students to college because it's like hey I already got the first year under my belt it is basically free oh they got three more to go we also believe it'll increase college graduation rate I read a statistic somewhere you can back me up or look it
013up later and challenge me but I think it's something like 26% of the freshmen Who start finish college in four years so we believe if you have one year under your belt you'll be more likely to graduate which is which is good for everybody also graduating on time early from college and also this is the last one I'm not going to shy from these are tough classes these are college level classes we don't teach econ at the high school level for this dual credit class it is taught the same as if you'd go to PFW and take it there they're not easy your son or daughter will be pushed okay they're not the standard class that they're used to but it will be challenging but again it's college level and it will be worth it
014and they have to be self-motivated as we talk about some flexibility with schedules okay so that's something we want to make sure the family buys into not just us telling your son or daughter we think this would be a good idea because it will push them so who can take and how so starting next year starting next school year we're going to offer it we're going to offer it to all incoming students 9 10 11 12 so that's why 9 through 11 in grade 8 was invited tonight so we're going to offer this to a dual credit at bluon high school these 30 credit hours okay some of your children have already earned that for example let's take Spanish you'll see this in a little bit it's like worth eight credits some Juniors have already
015taken their dual credit Spanish class eight credits that eight credits already counts toward here so just because we're starting the official program doesn't mean everybody starts with zero credits all dual credit classes earned that count toward this will count toward this even if they got it two years ago does that make sense so students if you're here and you go as Mr baxer goes over the list you go hey I've already taken that class you're done with one hey everybody taken that class two if you do 30 hours divided by three which is the average class that's 10 classes you have to take and we're going to show you while we offer just about every single one of them in a normal classroom setting so dual credit being taught by a dual credit teacher we
016have one in every Department it might be dual enrollment what's dual enrollment that's different to dual credit dual credit is you sit in this classroom from a high school teacher and get high school credit and college credit dual enrollment is you're not in a classroom at bluon high school you are online on a computer and that may be synchronous which means live or asynchronous which means you do it at your own pace we'll tell you how we'll provide time for that in your schedule dual enrollment is we're not teaching that class we can't we don't have a teacher who's credentialed we have to reach out to ivtech they say you can take this class for $450 but that would count toward your IC and we'll make sure there's room in the schedule to do that
017that's dual enrollment when they earn the credit through ivtech they also earn the credit through bluon high school so still the Dual concept one is you're here at bluon and the credit gets transferred to college that's dual credit dual enrollment is I'm in college when I'm done done the credit will transfer to college and back to my high school understand the difference okay and then AP classes like I said we offer a variety of a AP class well you pass a test you earn what you need so what do I mean by flexibility of schedule right now bluon high school as a student who just is here four years taking every class like normal you have the ability to earn 64 credits 64 you only have to have 48 to graduate okay you do the
018math that's a lot of credits left over all right it's a lot of credits we offer a lot of electives here but now what we can say to a sophomore junior or senior hey are you interested in this yes we will provide a block period for you to take a course that we can't offer through dual enrollment you can sit in the library sit here sit there you will get you signed up with the class and then you will earn a credit both in college and high school while you're sitting here maybe at second period and you've got one period done and you're going to do that then come back and do third period econ okay so we'll provide that time for your student every situation no sometimes they might to do it outside of
019the school day but if it can be done in the school day they may have to give up a different elective to do this because you can't do it all you got to decide what you want but if you want to do this we can provide the flexibility schedule so they so think about this if this all works out they will do it during the school day for free and they will complete that ICC by the time they leave for free for the most part so we want to encourage your students to look into this the six categories I'm going to let Mr Baer talk about this we have been working very very hard with ivtech who's our provider about getting us to a place where we can now offer this we've been turned down
020we picked ourselves up went again got turned down to BU another one and now we found someone who's willing to come alongside and invest in our school and we're investing in our students the six categories are up there on the board that's where 30 credit hours have to come from well if you do the math 30 total credit hours and there six categories and average of about five have to come out of every one doesn't have to be five but you can see that you have to take a class or two out of every category so think if you take two classes out of every category that's that's six hours times six categories that's 36 hours and you're gone okay you can take one here and three here the only stipulation is you have to
021take one class out of every category you can't double up and say I don't want to take anything in written communication that's the rules we have to live by it's not our rules that you have to take one out of every category in other in some categories you can take more than one class but you have to equal the 30 that come from there okay if you have questions if you would save them to the end we're going have a question answer time Mr backer is going to take us through excuse me these six categories and what we offer at bluon high school but let me say again we're excited about this I'm going to shoot straight with you 50% of our students won't be doing this n I'm sorry Statewide 5% why because this
022isn't easy and it's going to take determination motivation not from me from you because this is above and beyond that's why only 5% that's a state average we want we think we can get more than five but I want you to be prepared this is not a typical high school class like Algebra 2 this is that next level stuff that they're going to take anyway and some are ready Mr maxer yeah to go ahead and start I want to make sure that I emphasize that um most of these classes are not new classes to bluon high school um what we're doing is we're offering a lot of similar classes we are adding some additional ones um but the way that we are packaging these classes is what's the big difference here um I sit in
023my office and work one-on-one with a lot of kids and we'll go through and we'll look specifically how speech transfers to IU or how their psychology class will transfer to ball States and I don't have to do that anymore so selfishly it saves me a lot of time but it saves the students a lot of time from looking and having to compare as well so it is a huge benefit for them because they know if they take these certain classes then it's going to apply for that freshman year again which is a huge benefit and we'll we'll talk a little bit more as we go through these but um the classes that are on this list are not the only classes they have to choose from as well so you'll kind of see that as
024I click through all these slides here um on the right side of the screen are going to be different options that students could choose to pick from to complete that uh you know number one this written communication um aspect of the ICC on the left side is the options that we provide here at blon high school so right now for this written communication um we have honors English 12 um that is open for any uh senior student to take and it would or take care they give them three credits it would take care of this written communication they could stop there and it would take care of that category if they wanted to continue and take another class different written communication class um you know rhetoric and arguments a lot of colleges might require two
025English classes and so they could take that and get that out of the way and it would count as that freshman year requirement too so they could get six from that category again we don't offer it here at the high school but we could partner online with Indiana Tech ball State uh ivytech to complete those online um as I go into this next section with speaking listening with dual enrollment which Mr Baker mentioned um our dual enrollment classes they they do kind of get tricky on how they get offered right now um Ball State offers free free dual enrollment courses for any free introduced lunch student um which is awesome but not every place does that um Indiana Indiana Tech gives us a reduced rate at um $75 a credit hour so it's $225 um
026per class if it's a three credit class ivtech doesn't give us a reduced rate but it's $150 per credit hour which means it's 450 per class which is still way cheaper than taking it in person at most universities but I recognize that's still a barrier and so we're in the process of trying to reduce some of those barriers to make sure that these things are still possible um and if that's an issue please feel free to come and talk to me or Mrs lease um and we'll try to do our best um to try to navigate those things with you and make these things possible because again this is a great opportunity we want to help you get those as much as we can so again number two um we don't offer a speaking and
027listening class and you kind of follow along on your paper as well um but we do offer um Partnerships with ivytech Ball State Indian tech um for a speech class um that's pretty much the only class that's offered um as far as on the right side of the screen too so really just a speech class number three quantitative reasoning so this is any of our math math classes for the most part um again I think it might be even easier to see on the on your sheet but it's pre-calculus calculus and quantitative reasoning those the three classes we offer here at the high school um in this in this category um just taking the three credits from quantitative reasoning that's fine that covers the the area but you could move on and just take calculus
028or just take pre-calculus or just take calculus um get six to even 10 um credits in this category um but I've had a student that has wanted to pursue more math and so they went and took calculus they ended up taking calculus their junior year in high school and then they went and took um a fancier math class I can't even tell you what it is but just a fancier math class right um because that's their thing and so they were able to get more credits in this um on your sheet it doesn't say it up here but on your sheet it says U minimum of three but no more than 15 credits they can still get those college credits it only counts towards they can only have uh 15 to count towards their 30
029ICC credits if that makes sense so that quantitative reasoning caps out at 15 that counts towards ICC but they can still get more towards college credit uh number four scientific ways of knowing um so the only dual credit course we offer here is U biology to where they get four credits because it's a lab course as well um but we also offer AP Chemistry and AP Physics um and you can see again on your sheet especially AP Chemistry if they get a three um on their test at the end of the year um they get three credits if they get a four or five on their test at the end of the year they get 10 credits so it's a huge benefit to do continue to do better in some of those science courses especially
030those AP tests again AP classes work a little bit different than that dual credit where they have to pass the test at the end of the year that test is graded on a scale of 1 to five one to two does not get any credit at all um three gets college credit and in this situation gets um you know three uh credits towards um the ICC but then four and five is a little bit advantageous too you get more credits for the better you do on those tests um kind of works the same way physics but again if you're interested in other things you know there's solar system astronomy that's on there you know if you're interested in astronomy that's something you could take um and I think I have some more on here as
031well like they could take other heat electricity and Optics classes and Earth uh earth science or physical science classes as well um so lots of different options for them to choose from but those are the ones we have here at blon moving into the social and behavioral ways of knowing lots of different classes especially that be offer here and um to so to kind of start here as a senior um senior students here at blon are required to take econ and US government and so they can use to just take that on the Dual credit side and so it's kind of built into their schedule pretty easy um and then they have options of AP World History and AP US History which will be new next year and psychology I don't know if we're offering
032it quite next year we're still in the process of trying to figure that out but it is offered as a dual credit same with sociology um so lots of different things again and they can continue to explore more classes on the right side um the sheet as you look in front of you I we had a meeting with students on Monday and after that I met with a couple students I met with a junior who we she was like okay like where am I at with this because we hadn't started this and we're you know starting it next year but she had started and she was already she only needed speech you know everything else was already built into her schedule she's taken bio2 as a junior she's taken econ honor or honors English 12
033US government as a senior so the only thing that she needed was a was a speech class so she was already on track because she was just taking the classes that she wanted to take to push herself um and I think this is a big category to get some of those extra credits in um because there's a lot of flexibility here again more classes um that they can choose to take different economics classes different history classes and then the last category the humanistic ways of knowing um again this is Spanish that's the main class we offer right now here at the high school it's the only class we offer right now at the high school we're continuing to look to explore these options going forward um in this area and in other areas um but
034with these again like we we can choose to take German we had a a student the other two years ago that didn't want to take Spanish or German as an option they wanted to take Sign Language sign language is an option so they did that all online um and so that counted in this category I don't think I have that up here on the right side but it counted and it would count towards the ICC as well so there's different ways to explore again we can't usually say hey we're offering sign language of left in high school but if that's something your student is interested we can explore those options um and look at what it would look like to do a dual enrollment course in those areas so let's see here before you go
035on to the next one when to inject something so when you um look at this paper maybe a question you would say is well you're offering some great classes that's good but why don't you offer more why you're only offering one or two or three in each category again that's out of our hands our teachers get credentialed and then somebody has to prove that um not all teachers are going to go back and get their masters and Masters plus 18 that takes two to three four extra years and that's whether a teacher wants to do it that or not sometimes they'll take extra classes and it won't count toward this so we've looked into every teacher license in this building and we've got up on the screen every class that we can offer and as
036new teachers come in we're encouraging them get your Master's plus 18 help us with the Dual credit bluon provides some resources for teachers to do that so away we go that's the second thing I want to tell you is that I think I had this discussion starting in the fall with Dr Yates it's something we we've been looking at like I said for almost a year and Dr Yates finally but not fin basically said offer it offer it whatever obstacles there are let's find what they are and let's find a way to overcome them so this is a district initiative this is not just two guys up here creating some classes we've got the superintendent's support behind that as well helping us be creative in how we will offer those classes the last thing I
037want to say is just a little bit of a downer and I apologize some of you know I've been principal for 25 years a trend that I'm starting to see which concerns me just a little bit and I don't want to step on any toes because I don't know that anyone here has said it but I hear things like I don't want my child to take that class it will hurt their GPA I don't want them to take this class or senior year I want them to have fun I don't want them to take that class to teacher something or whatever I would encourage us to stay away from those conversations because here's what I'm thinking if I'm a parent I want their first year of college to be while they're under my roof so
038if that's a tough class I'd rather have them take that when they're in my roof under my roof I can talk to them every dinner I can go to school and talk to the teacher when you go to college you guys know this they go to college parents you're cut out out they won't I'm not trying to be mean but the student is the primary person that they will talk to here you've got a partnership so I'm going to go the other way I would encourage your sons and daughters to take as many of these classes are they tough yes could it impact their GPA yes but I can get a hundred colleges up here that they would all say do it if your GBA drops 1110th but you took a college level class that's
039what they want to see so don't get into class rankings don't get into that game universities want to see this so take those other things off the off the table and I'll say it one more time if they're going to struggle I'd love for them to do it at home with me and then we send them off to college and now they know what's expected of them instead I took the course most traveled the easiest one all of a sudden I go to college bam I wish I were prepared right so that's what we it will push your sons or daughters but that's okay it will it's for a good outcome so the checklist that you have in front of you um I would encourage you to talk with your student about that go through
040that with them see where they're at see what the plan is to how they're going to complete those things um and then yeah continue to have those a conversation on how to push them on the right side of the screen up here is a QR code that QR code is a link to all those other courses that we I had kind of had throughout the presentation as well and so if they're interested in taking other classes what classes fall into what categories um you can go ahead and scan that it gives you a little bit more than just what we're offering here at bluon which is what is on that sheet so if you guys have any other questions we'll open it up briefly for a quick Q&A here for a minute or two um
041and then we will also be up on the stage afterwards for more questions if you'd rather come up here and such Mr Mr baxer is younger than I am and we're stream uh we're streaming this he's going to run around with the microphone so when you talk please speak in the microphone because this will be streamed it'll be on our website so you can tell a friend oh you didn't make it hey it's only half an hour long watch it it's here on the website but we ask that you use the mic so they can hear your question and then we'll do our best to answer then when kind of the general questions are done we'll stick around and you you can talk about your child specifically if you have questions but again we're in
042the scheduling process and that be done naturally through our our school counselors any questions overall so what is the advantage or disadvantage of those 30 credit hours and hitting a class from all six categories because if a student is taking some of these classes but not hitting one of the categories so they just not get the title of the IC but they're still getting col the college credit or are those credits not guaranteed to transfer that is a great question I I mean that is that's getting into the weeds that I'm certainly going to answer and I would also just I'm not look at but do G is probably smiling really big because he heard me say the same thing I have met with commission uh the commissioner higher ed CH that's who's in charge
043of this not the guy but the department I said exactly the same thing I said I'm offering computer science as a dual credit you're telling me that would not count toward ICC no okay I offer business as a dual credit you're telling me that won't no I said very professionally then maybe it's time you rethink IC because I agree with you 100% Dr Katie Jenner I've even spoken with and I've recommended to her what if we get 20 credits in the ICC and 10 outside of ICC like computer science business those kids should still get the IC I've not made any traction yet but the answer to your question is get every dual credit class you can get this is simply a it's given a name that colleges recognize and say oh you have ICC
044done deal if it's hit and miss they're still going to take them most likely but it's going to be individually where computer science may be off may be accepted one way at one college another way at another but overall if I were a parent I would shoot for the ICC but if I come up short I'd want to get as many dual credit classes as possible because they will still count as electives in college does that answer that question and to add to that I would just say it's the benefit of it is it's a package it's going to apply to any school or yeah any four-year School plus some private schools as a package it says oh you've done this check mark it applies to this and it takes care of all these classes
045whereas if it's not the ICC it's like okay let's look specifically how all of these classes individually transfer and this counts as an elective and this counts as this class and this counts maybe oh this one doesn't count here I personally like I would hate or I do hate working with dual credit here and then it's like working with a parents that says is this really going to be beneficial for me and I'm like I really can't tell you if if that's the truth or not I hope it is but until I know specifically what school they're going to choose or or what else like I can't tell you this ensures that y does that answer that the ICC is a recognized package they take all of it without question anything else is like alak
046cart for them but yeah I would still say shoot for this come up but again we can offer it's about all these classes but if you come up a little short get all the Dual credit you can just a point of clarification that you can help the group with um for our partner institution our higher ed institution who is our partner and is that the group you have to get a minimum of 15 hours with yep thank you for that yep thank you we have to partner with somebody um so again we just don't have dual credit through PFW ivytech IU Purdue but they want us to have at least 15 of the 30 hours through one entity so we have chosen Ivy Tech because that's where most of ours is through so they're the
047partner that we have to play by their rules get 15 hours toward ivtech and then they can fill in the rest through PFW online if you take an online course you do it through ivtech that counts as one of the 15 hours so our partner is ivtech does that answer the qu thank you for that clarification anyone else yes sir well way over there I'm glad you're running we'd have to take a break if I had to go from here to over there if you were to take a class like honors econ instead of normal econ would that count like would it be extra credits or would it just be the three as it says on the paper so your question is honors Eon right that you take as a senior what does that count
048toward so when we say honors most of the time not always some of the time I'll say it it's a dual credit class so if you would take that with Mr conle that two credits is going to get confusing two credit sorry one credit for high school you'll get one credit for high school for Eon you met your high school requirement then you'll get three credits from PFW toward the ICC or just three dual Credit in in uh total one class you'll get one high school credit and three college credits okay does that answer that yeah cuz on the paper it just says econ is three credits is what three credits it doesn't say anything about honors Eon right yeah go ahead Mr B so yeah that on there that honors econ just means that
049it's the Dual credit econ so yeah it's the honors econ dual credit econ kind of making the same thing there's the the regular econ that doesn't have any dual credit associated with it and and then also don't be able to answer your question I'll go all the way back um so most of our academic honors kids are going to take honors English 12 with Mrs Cheney okay they're going to do that you get your two English credits by taking that through Mrs Cheney and you'll also get three credits through ivtech same class you'll get both credits two high school three College by taking a class you have to take anyway it's just at a more rigorous level because you have to take some kind of English 12 so the this class is for all the
050Dual credit kids who want to take that does that answer so it's like econ uh English 12 government those are your senior classes we'll be off offering high school and college credit good question you you you came up and talked to me yesterday too didn't you yeah good questions anyone else I'm a parent of two Bluff and grads so I kind of get that that whole scene of you know what's next um we didn't offer nearly as many I think my son walked out of here with three credits and my daughter walked out of here with six or seven we just didn't offer that many if I if they were here today we would sit down Juniors you got to get it all done in the year but again you've already got some of these
051classes done next year's seniors next year's Juniors you got two years next year's sophomore you got three and so forth I would sit down with my son or child son or daughter and say is this something you want to do if if so let's pursue it yeah it's going to be tough but you know what the teachers right here it's we don't have office hours like college we don't have you got to talk to a grad assistant your teacher right here go for it I'll support you and if we can get some dual credits that's great if we go so far and boom that's all we can do then that's all we can do but there's only upsides to this okay I guess the downside would be work okay or yeah they may have to
052have a tougher senior schedule than what they want but you know what I always want to hear I always want to hear Mr Baker my freshman year at College was easier than my senior year at bluon that means we prepared them well so that would be my goal as a parent anything else and this is not going away so if you have questions you can ask at any time Mr Baxter Mrs Lee they'll be running with this they'll be talking to your child about it you can this will be an ongoing conversation so as you dive more into it you may have more questions all right I'm not going to keep you any longer than necessary I really do appreciate you coming I really do it's a good turnout and we have it streamed as
053well so if you want anybody else to see it but we're excited for it and we're ready to go we'll make sure we put together a good package