001Um, okay. We're going to call this meeting to order. Can you call the role, please? >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> here. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> here. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. Okay. >> This meeting is a meeting of the West Yaga Local School District Board of Education in public for the purpose of conducting the West Yaga Local School District's business and is not to be considered a public community meeting. There is a time for public participation during the meeting as indicated in the agenda. You rise for the pledge, please. I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Are there any additions or changes to the agenda? There
002are none. >> Okay. Programs, reports, and presentations. Well, it gives me a lot of pleasure tonight to introduce to our board um a very special young person that represents uh West Local Schools. Charlotte Spire is here. Charlotte, would you stand up for us? She's here with her folks, Jennifer and Michael Spire. Um Charlotte is the youngest of four children. Um all girls, right? >> Five kids. >> Oh my gosh, I forgot the boy. My own boys are going to be like, "What is wrong with you?" I ap Oh dear. I apologize. Charlotte has represented West Giaga this year in the Cleveland Shining Star Competition. Um the Shining Star Competition happens down at Playhouse Square um sponsored by Key Bank. It's an opportunity for talented individuals across Northeast Ohio to showcase um some of their vocal
003talents and um gain reward that way, scholarship money, etc. Um and it is quite an honor to be chosen. Charlotte represented us as an alternate >> musicals of elementary school, middle school, uh and now in high school. My love for musical theater has developed along with my singing voice. Uh, my development extended outside the regular choir classroom and included private voice lessons. I entered competitions, prepared for auditions, and practiced for countless hours. Along the way, I was blessed with working with uh amazing talent, the majority of which came from right here in the West Chiago School District. And all of these experience helped me prepare for singing on stage at Playhouse Square for Shining Star Cleveland. In addition, I will use these skills to audition again uh for the for a role in Your Good
004Man, Charlie Brown, which is the musical that the high school will be performing in April of 2026. This is doubly exciting for all of us with a love of musical theater because for the first time, West Chiago will be taking part in the Dazzle Awards, which to give perspective is like the high school version of the Tony Awards. Knowing this incredible opportunity is coming to West Giaga is beyond thrilling. Um, and I'm speaking here tonight to thank you for your past support of me and my journey and to ask for your continued support of myself and my peers as we strive to shine on stage representing West Giaga at the Dazzle Awards. With the support you all have given, the program has come so far to where we are today. But we are not done
005yet. Please spread the word about the Dazzle Awards. Support us at our performances in April and please make all the talk about building a performing arts center a reality. With your continued support, West Giaga musical theater will shine and uh you'll see many of our names hopefully in lights one day. Um I hope to inspire many of the young kids in the middle and elementary schools to keep going with their love of the arts and to always strive to do more for themselves and their communities. West Yoga has taught me to go out of my comfort zone and do more for myself as well as the community I am a part of. I want to end by thanking you again. Your support has meant everything to me. Thank you so much. [Applause] And thank your
006siblings, girls and boy, um for us as well. And I promised you that you could sneak out. But I do before you sneak out want to thank Samantha Wiskin who's here. Um Samantha came to us as a coral teacher but has done so much more um with Emma Figgy um as a part of our dramatics and musicals. They really are something. It's it is so moving to watch them. And you know, free plug Middle School Annie coming up, but we'll tell you exactly how you can get to those performances towards the tail end. You have to stick with me. Um, but they are certainly filled with such great talent. We're so proud of them and so proud of you representing us. So, we appreciate it, Charlotte. And I'm glad that you could come tonight. Thank
007you, Spires, very much all. [Applause] Um, next up, a lot less entertaining. Well, I don't know. We'll we'll be the judge, I suppose. Um, we will have uh we will have several of our administrators walk you through the state report card which was released last month, but it was released on the board date. So, we couldn't necessarily go through, but we um we'll keep it short and to the point. Um, but we want to have a chance for you to go over the report card results. >> Amy, >> are you sure? Good evening. Thank you so much for having me. Um, and I will not um be expressing myself using my voice. I was a presentation and the flute didn't really go along with this presentation. So, I could not be prouder um to to
008represent um West Giaga. Um I'd like to start by expressing our sincere gratitude to the board, to the community, to the families, um students and parents. It's an honor to be here tonight to present information which is a testament to the hard work and dedication across the entire district. Um before we dive into the details, I want to pause and celebrate what this report card uh truly represents. A huge point of pride. We are one of only 10 districts in the entire state to earn the five stars overall and five stars in every single component area from the school year 2425. That level of success does not happen by chance. It comes from years and years of hard work and shared commitment to excellence with care of students in the forefront. Tonight we will walk
009you through the key components of this success and our goals moving forward. Mrs. Bell is going to walk you through the current achievement and achievement over time. >> Tim out of all 6 >> thank you Dr. Davis. Tonight, I'm honored to share our performance index results, which represents wonderful news about our student achievement at West Chicago Local Schools. Before I get into the results, I also want to sincerely thank our students, our teachers, our staff, our administration, and our board for their relentless pursuit of excellence. Westiaga earned a performance index of 108.5 this year, ranking us number 11 in the state of Ohio. This places us among top performing districts in Ohio for our achievement. Some of us might be wondering what does PI represent? The performance index is Ohio's most comprehensive measure of student
010achievement. Unlike the other metrics that only count proficiency or students passing the test, the performance index counts every single students test performance. Students earn points based on their achievement level. Example, a student in a limited level earns less points than a student at basic advanced earns you more than proficient. That means that when we move any student up a performance category, even just one level, our performance index improves, meaning every student counts and every achievement gain matters. This measure includes each and every student. It's the single best measure of the overall health of our district because it represents and reflects the achievement of every child in including our gifted students, our students English as language learners as well as our students with um significant cognitive disabilities and every other student that we are educating. Meaning
011that all are represented in this number and all matter. Our performance index increased this year because more students are scoring in the accomplish advanced and advanced plus categories. We're not simply stopping at proficiency. We're pushing every child beyond proficiency into the highest levels of achievement. And this isn't a one-year success story. In 2016 and 17, we ranked 53rd in the state. This year, we're number 11. And the last four consecutive years from 2021 to 2025, we've been in the top 11 statewide. Our PI scores in those four years have improved every single year. In 2021, we were at 106.7, then up to 108.1, 108.2, and this year, 108.5. And this didn't happen by accident. We've made intentional shifts to innovate our instruction. We've moved beyond content driven teaching to centered, student centered, and inquiry based
012learning. Our professional development has focused on challenging and engaging all learners, not just meeting our minimum standards. And these results show that our efforts are working. We've built capacity throughout our organization, not just an isolated pockets. Our students, our staff, and our families have embraced this culture of continuous improvement. So, what do these results tell us? They tell us three important things. First, we're not just meeting state standards, we're exceeding them significantly. Second, we're preparing students for rigorous academic challenges ahead such as AP courses, dual enrollment, competitive colleges, and the challenges of a modern workforce. Third, our investment in professional development, curriculum improvements, and instructional shift is paying off in measurable ways. So, moving forward, our goal is to continue to maintain this momentum. We will continue to focus on student engagement, academic rigor, and
013enrichment opportunities for each and every child. We will continue to keep supporting our teachers with the professional development and resources that they need to challenge each of our learners. The performance index measures every single child's achievement and our results show that we have successfully grown students into higher level of achievements performance across the board. It's something we can all be proud of and it's something we're committed to sustaining. Thank you. And without further ado, Jen, >> I wrote down my comments so I keep them brief. >> Thank you, Megan. That's really outstanding work for the entire district, everybody representing. As uh Dr. Davis mentioned, there are five components to the fivestar rating this year. On next year's report card, there will be a sixth component. You may have noticed that on the first slide that
014is called college, career, workforce and military readiness. This measure is unique as the data is held held one year in a rears. The data shown on this year's report card is from the 2023 2024 school year. Unlike the other categories which are from the 242 school year, based on the 2023 2024 data, we earned three stars. This is the newest component of Ohio's report card. Measures how well students are prepare prepared for their lives after high school, whether it's college, the workforce, the military, or other training. Many of our students are measured using the ACT remediation free score, AP participation and achievement, that's advanced placement courses, college credits, honors diplomas, and technical assessments. Targeted areas for students to gain experience include increasing industry recognized credentials, pre-apprenticeships, and workbased learning. We addressed last we addressed this
015last year through the addition of a robust robust pre-apprenticeship program in our English 11 and English 12 courses. We know that we have made much progress on this year's report card and that will be reflected in next year's report card. This demonstrates our commitment to ensuring that students are successful after high school. >> Okay, we're going to finish this off with a few next steps and a few areas for growth. Points of pride include um being in the top 11 school districts in the state. Our high school is ranked number two. right now also >> right >> is one of only 10 districts as we've mentioned um to receive the overall fivestar rating of five stars in each component area illustrated the continuous improvements on the performance index and um it's significant that we were
016able to reduce the chronic absentism% uh continued growth. We're always working toward personalizing instruction and the supports. Uh we are always working to expand enrichment and acceleration opportunities um in preparation for life post high school. Um and as always, we are committed to challenging students academically. But we'd like to finish by thanking again the community including the board, teachers, staff, parents, and students. Thank you. [Applause] I just have a question on the chronic absenteeism. Was it reduced by 9% or 29%. >> 29%. >> 29. So now it's 9.1%. And what was it? >> I don't want to miss two years ago. >> Wow. What is chronic absenteeism? >> Chronic absenteeism is measured by more than 10% of the school days. So if you have 180 both excused and unexcused. >> Doesn't matter just missing it.
017Okay. Thanks. >> I think as a result of co the state really took this on and um we really just reminding parents right that this is the definition and you know our parents are such wonderful partners. they were quick to respond and and it's such a dramatic, you know, just by pointing out these are the pieces of the puzzle. So, >> to improve. >> Yeah. >> I just I think I mean I I say this every year. I mean, could just like rewind and hit play again. Um that our report card shows not just that we're teaching to a test, which I think is such an easy thing to say when you are such high performing like we are. Um, we're teaching skills and critical thought and you don't get the types of advanced plus
018and advanced and more than proficient. I mean more than or almost threequarters of our students are above proficient in these. That's not teaching to the test. That is teaching critical life skills and thinking and I mean it is just such a testament to our leadership team that trickles down to our staff, to our students and and everybody understands what that means to succeed here. and I just can't thank everybody enough. So, thank you for helping make that happen for our kids. >> You're underlining that, too, and showing the the graph that you did that it just hasn't ridden from the bottom, but the two upper levels have definitely both gotten higher and larger. For sure. >> So, what you're saying is exactly true that more students are rising into those top two tiers because of
019the work that our parents and teachers, staff are doing. Yep. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Oh boy. >> It's the end of the good news. >> Be so glad to see you. >> It is so >> perhaps Charlotte could have helped you sing part of this presentation. It's hard to follow financial information when you've had a performance like Charlottes and a great it was >> but it set us up for for me. So there you go. So there you go. We're gonna go through uh oh >> oh no >> that's probably what happened. You just turned it off and said no I don't want it. a good technician. Turn it off and on and see if it works. >> There you go. >> All right. Thank you. All right. Our uh forecast is for our
020October forecast. We normally come here in November. We're here a little bit early because of legislative changes. If we look at the changes here, House Bill 96 has changes from a five-year forecast to a four-year forecast. However, the board policy requires me to prepare a five-year forecast. So, we'll continue to do that because we believe additional information is important for your planning. Our due date is October 15th. It's the 13th. We're getting in just in time. And then the next uh update of that would be in February. The state budget, we all talked about that in Jan in June. The state budget uh has been finalized. However, there were several vetos that took place by the governor and some of those have been overwritten by the house. and now the Senate. So, we'll talk about
021those. So, these are in play until they can continue to do any of overrides of that budget until December of 2026. So, we've got a few more months or a lot uh some things that we're going to talk about, you know, not just numbers. We have a lot of things that are impacting our budget um and going on in Ohio now that are creating some concerns that we have as a board and how we're going to fund our schools going forward. House Bill 96 is the current budget. We got about $200,000 in additional funding through the state foundation and most of that was through our transportation uh formula that's now gone from 45 up to 45% of our reimbursement. The governor vetoed four key provisions that would heavily have impacted our school uh our local
022revenue. However, one of those was overridden by the house and we'll talk about that. House Bill 96 has included one provision that was uh that wasn't overridden. Uh it's called the piggyback tax exemption law that allows our county commissioners to give a second tax credit for homestead and homeowners uh roll back credit of 2.5%. Without uh any reimbursement. So now if we have a homestead or a roll back, we get a reimbursement from the state. That will so what they allow the commissioners to do is double that and then we'll no longer get that reimbursement. So we'll miss that. That's going to be about $835,000 annually and it will stay in place until they rescend it. So they don't have to do it annually. It'll stay in place unless it's rescended. So we'll continue to
023see that. That deadline is October 31st that our commissioners would have to make that decision. Some county commissions we've se uh have given out both. Some are just giving homestead exemptions because that's the ones in most need for that. Um, we all understand, we all opened up our tax bill. We know that there needs to be tax reform and this is one way for the county to do that. The governor uh in the House bill uh after House Bill 96 passed said together a tax reform workg group. It issues this report and talks about what the county budget commission can do. Talk about carryover balances and the substitute levies would be renamed as fixed sum levies. Those are some of the recommendations. I sent you a copy of the recommendations and a summary so you
024have those. Um certainly a great topic for later. We're not going to talk about them today. Uh some things that were going on. So first thing is the piggyback exemption. That's certainly something that's uh we will hear within the next couple of weeks whether or not that's going to go forward. Uh all indications is we will have something. The House and Senate voted to override the governor's veto that would change would eliminate our emergency and substitute levy renewals after January 1st, 2026. That of course would eliminate our current roll back credits when the levies expire. Again, this is why one of the reasons that we put the levy on, the substitute levy on so we could preserve that roll back credit for our tax uh residents. The next one is a a old bill, but
025now it's been substituted. It's also been amended. It's sitting with the uh House Ways and Mean Committee. This is a substitute bill, House Bill 186. I sent you a copy, a draft of that that limits the increases to inflation back to 2023. So, it has a inflationary cap credit that would be given back to taxpayers. It would be um in the August tax bill is what they're proposing. This proposes a tax credit targeting past property tax values. So it would go back two years and then it would go forward after that. So if it were to go into effect, the two years going back and recouping that to a inflationary um number because we were on the 20 mil floor so we got more than inflation. It would be $7.87 million per the last simulation
026that we were given. Um and then going forward we would lose another $4.9 million going forward. This is for us it would be catastrophic for us and what we would have to do to to uh make up that difference. This is um I believe there's almost what you say Dr. Benasa 300 districts that are >> 308 districts that are in this uh same uh scenario with us as well. So this is one we're watching closely. Uh I know there's a lot of there's testimony coming up on this one as well Wednesday. So we'll keep an eye on that one as we go forward. House Bill 129 was passed in the House. It allows school districts to renew emergency levies as what they call a fixed sum levy. They're getting rid of the emergency levies unless
027it's truly the school district is in fiscal emergency. And we there's different classifications for what's a fiscal emergency, but it only allows it to do it one time. Substitute levies will still be excluded, meaning that they're still eliminated and won't move forward going after our January 1st, 2026 uh date. The bill requires emer requiring emergency levies and substate levies to be in the 20 mil floor calculation. This is something that's been under discussion. Right now, emergency levies are not in the 20 mil floor calculation, which creates an additional tax increase for those that drop below the 20 mil floor, which is the minimum amount that a school district should receive from its taxpayers. So, this is going to move that into the 20 mil floor. We anticipated this. This is something we've been, you know,
028has been talked about a great deal. Uh we are at right now we're at.33 mills under the 20 mil floor. Um and so we're collecting 20 mil floors plus our emergency levies right now. The last bill that we want to talk about is House Bill 309. It passed. It authorizes the county budget commission to reduce levies, but the wording was uh what we had have been talking about is what is necessary and excessive. Those definitions have been put in place in this House bill. However, the definitions are not they're rather broad. So, we'll see what that means when we go to the tax budget commission. No levy reduction. Once you pass a levy, you can't reduce it for five years after the voters have approved that. They fell out of their chairs. They're so excited.
029>> So, Karen, I have a question. Yes, ma'am. on the roll back the inflation cap credit which is the most >> ownorous one for sure. >> How long do they have to override that veto till the end of next year? >> Yeah. End of 2026. >> So well that's these are new that's a new bill, >> right? >> So that's not associated with the with the budget bill. So this would just be a it would go this the process of of just the regular legislative process. >> Okay. So >> now the governor could come through and vetoed it, veto it at the end, >> but it's with the house right now and they have not approved it yet. >> It's still in the house ways and means committee. I believe they have testimony on Wednesday.
030>> Okay. >> On it. >> Yeah. So that's that's the one we're obviously we're targeting watching it very closely. There are like I said 300 other schools that are in the same u so it's on Wednesday. >> Wednesday. can send us a link maybe like >> if they have it I will certainly send that out. >> Thanks. >> Um one thing on the homestead uh they did increase in the House Bill uh 96. They did increase the homestead exemption to 28,000. That's over your total bill. It's not 28,000 per 100,000. It's 28,000 in total. So that's uh about $250 using our millillage. revenue and expenditures. As you see this graph, we're going to talk a little bit. Oh, something didn't come through. The PDF didn't come through. Cash balances, if you look at that, is
031in uh the green. We see that going down as we have in the red line, the the expenditures exceeding our revenue. And part of that is because of the expiration of the $3.7 million emergency levy that's going to expire in uh tax year 2027, but it's for it's in ends at December 2026. Why are these lines not in there? Not helpful. All right. um state contributions. As we look at the we'll look at the purple, we get about 70% of our total funding comes from real estate and our local our state funds about 24%. So we're still can see obviously the taxpayers of Westaga funding the majority of our school district through property taxes. House Bill 96 still has us on the guarantee through 27 and because we only have the budget through 27, we're
032form forecasting that throughout the rest of the forecast as well. If there are changes obviously in the Baym budget or any the property tax changes, then we'd have to look at that and see what it how it we need to respond to that. local taxes. You see the red versus the yellow. That's just this the um local versus the state funding. As we look at that, there's a small dip in 20, you can see this on in 27 or a small increase. That is the expiration of the $2.35 million levy uh that was suspended for one year for tax year 24. So that comes back on and then you have a dip down um as we go through and we have the re basically the in 2026 the expiration of the house of the emergency
033levy of 3.7 million. So we have kind of two levies going in. You know 2.35 comes back on our uh property taxes and then the 3.7 is expiring. So you'll see that dip down on our forecast. We've added it to a separate line item. So you see that as we anticipate that um in the substitute levy. >> When did we start collecting that 2.35 again? >> It will be in your 2026 tax bill. >> So we haven't started collecting that yet. Okay. >> And we cross over half we because we cross over fiscal years. You got to get half in one year and half in another. So that's where we're at right now. >> If we look at our effective tax rates by district, uh West Giaga still is very favorable when it compares to
034other uh districts around the area. Even when we come back and put that 2.35 mil levy back on the ballot, we'd be at 25.85 mills. That would uh still have us at one of the lowest uh school district tax rates. Now, that doesn't mean that the value of our property in Westaga is the lowest, but the tax rate that you would pay on it, so if you moved your district, you moved your house over to let's say Kirtland or Sugar Falls, you'd pay much more. But our district our rates lower. Some of the key assumptions that we have in the forecast related to expenditures. We have a three-year contract. We we're in the second year of a three-year contract with our uh two bargaining units. Uh 3.2, 3.3, and 3.5 was our base wages. And
035certainly have steps associated with that. We did hire four bus drivers. Um, if you recall, we had a lot of bus drivers that were had resigned or retired last year and we had to contract out those services to provide transportation for our students. Those have been hired. Uh, so I think we're fully staffed. Uh, and we've reduced that contracted labor out of our purchase services. The preschool has moved from our meds and bomb program which is run through the county and is now housed at Westwood. So if you have a good you want to see nice cute little kids, Megan will take you on a tour of that. We're planning as we've seen the phase two of that program we're going to talk about that in November is moving the remaining preschool students over to
036Westwood as >> and the net cost to us because we're saving >> we're saving yeah >> item but adding it under but we're neutral, right? Or even a little better. >> We're a little bit ahead. We're a little bit ahead. When you see the phase two, we'll we'll see a savings in like $150, $175,000, but this one's pretty neutral from that standpoint. We still have related services that are being provided that are, you know, speech, OT, PT that we buy from the county still because you don't want to have if you only need part of those hours, you don't want to hire full-time staff. So, that's a one way to share services and reduce our cost. Insurance premiums uh for 2026 is 6.5% for medical. We're also looking at dental premiums at 13%. We went
037out for bid for dental and um our life insurance dental premiums were coming back at 21% 19 to 21%. So we went out to bid we got some favorable rates. Uh the health insurance committee will look at those uh and make that recommendation going forward on uh later this week. 6 and a half% is >> we're seeing >> we expected it to be >> we were anticipating based on our claims we're anticipating something much higher. What happens is we're in a consortium with Ohio school benefits council and medical mutual runs that consortium. So what happened is medical mutual came in with their uh I think almost a 9% increase and throughout because of the experience with the consortium they were able to reduce it 2%. Uh so that has saved us quite quite a bit
038of money there. that consortium has been it's it's done well for us. We've had quite a single digit increases or sometimes 0% increases. So, we've done well with that. And we had some changes in our benefit structure with our classified staff that also contributed to a reduction in our premiums. Purchase services continue to increase. This is one area that we're going to be focusing. We we've been focused on. We're looking at it. Uh utilities of course are in there. Repairs and maintenance. We have a a lot of repairs and maintenance. Um we've had a bad run with our repairs and maintenance. Uh things broke and um we have student tuition in there, technology support, transportation contracts, all of those things are rolled into that purchase services. So it does tend to increase um when we're
039looking at student placements if we have to outplace a student. Supplies continue to show an increase outside the inflationary uh cost. Uh Mark will tell you every time I come into his office he's going I know Karen I know it's it's gone up. So we're seeing a great deal of increase in our supplies because we have we buy them all over the place. It's you know and people were stressed during COVID. We used money during COVID to pay for those and offset those costs but we're now having to pay full price for those as well. Um we also had some additional textbook increases in 26 for the science of reading. That's our wit and wisdom program and that is u going to be an ongoing expense I understand as we go through the rest of
040the forecast. Capital expenses are really whatever a planned project we might have annual Chromebook purchases and um needs that we might have outside the permanent improvement fund. >> It Scott, are you going to give us an update on the capital plan maybe sometime in the next couple months or so? >> We're going to have that in November. >> Oh, good. >> Because of I think that's what Scott and I have talked about. >> I don't think they do. >> Yeah. >> A really good plan >> and we've talked about it before, >> right? >> Yes, that's coming. >> It's good to refresh and I mean it changes a little bit here and there. So, I think it'd be good to look at that >> as we look at that. We've made some transfers uh from
041our general fund to other funds so that we can uh meet the additional needs coming in the next three to five years. We've moved $250,000 into our employee severance fund. That is to anticipate we have a bubble of retirees in the 28-year range. Uh now they've reduced the retirement age to 32. So we're trying to fund that so we'll have enough to pay for severance pay when those retirements come about. We also anticipate moving $1.5 million to our permanent improvement fund. If you recall last year, the PI inside millillage, the one mill that was moved over to a PI fund was moved back into the general fund uh by the budget commission. So that money is still there. It's just sitting in the general fund and now we are moving it back to the PI
042fund. Once we move it to the PI fund, once the board does that and it takes that action, it can't go back to the general fund. So, we move it a little bit at a time. So, last month you approved a million dollars. We'll wait to make the next half a million dollars. Uh really waiting on the piggyback exemption to determine whether or not we'll make that final move uh to fund those projects and then we'll have to make some accommodations to that. >> Are are they going to keep the retirement at 32? >> I mean, >> I don't It's got a schedule and Dr. Dr. Benasa is probably well verssed in the schedule but um right now no um but we're hearing things that it might stay >> um but right now it is
043there is a limit to the 32 and then what it seems like would happen right now is it will go back to 35 but um we're hearing that it would there might be a stair step up kind of a situation right >> um the Ford um two years ago set up a middle school capital improvement fund. This um paid for the roofs, the windows, the doors, things that we've been uh taking care of at the middle school because as we looked at our master facility plan, this was a we knew this was a building that we would continue to utilize uh no matter what happened with our master facility plan. So, we have allocated or earmarked all of those funds. That'll include the new water treatment center and possibly maintenance facility depending on how the
044numbers come in along with the we're looking at the building facade repairs. As you know, we have uh water damage that's that's taking out uh part of our facade and then univvent replacements here at the middle school. So, that's all that money has been earmarked. In addition to that, you also had earmarked additional funding for future districtwide capital cost over the next five years, parking lots and drainage repairs in all buildings. I think everybody can agree Lindsay's probably the next on the list. I believe uh Scott is what we've talked about. Track and tennis court replacement. Uh depending on the placement of the tennis court and where it would be, Lindsay boiler replacements. We had two boilers that were um fixed this year, but we we'll need to replace those as we go along because
045um we want to make sure that they're they're um working in the winter doesn't do anything to them. HVAC and unit replacements in all buildings, roof replacement and repairs at the high school, Westwood and Lindsay, we've completed or almost completed the one at the middle school. High school windows and door replacement if we continue to have that online. If we don't pass any kind of bond and have a new building, we need to make those adjustments. And so the classroom furniture and technology, we really haven't spent a lot of money on furniture and all that other than what we spent during COVID. So the little buildings, the elementary buildings, they got new furniture and kind of worked there, but the middle school and high school did not. We did add you um STEM room has
046been updated. So there's some other programs we are looking. I believe you had a discussion on the vette program and that is another area where we'd have to put some money in to make that program work. Wages benefits again is red and the purple that makes up our 73% of our total expenditures and we spend about one question people have asked is how much do you spend per month? We spend about $3 million per month. So when we look at our um cash balance, you'll see the recommendation uh from the GFOA, which is one of our organizations we look at, is to have a a minimum of 60 days. The board policy is 120 days before triggering an action by the by the superintendent and treasurer to come to the board. At this point, we
047if you would notice that we have in 2026, if you had the numbers, we would have um 112 days. So we're under our 120 days for this year. Part of that is um related to some transfers that we had, but we will if you look at the next 27 and 28, we're over 120 days. So those things have been accommodated in the in the budget. If we do again have the PP back, we'll have to make some accommodations. Dr. Ben & Kasa and I have talked about a number of actions that we would take in this year's budget because we would see half of that take care of this year and half of it next year in the fiscal year. So, we'd have to make uh some changes there, too. >> And I mean, we
048set it at 120. >> Mhm. >> And I think it's worth stating that it's not because we think we necessarily need a larger cash reserve. It's because we want visibility and we think going to 60-day visibility for the bull is not enough. That's not long enough. You had to do something, right? >> Yeah. It doesn't give us a lot of time to react, >> right? So, we did set it at 120. Again, it's it's more of a trigger for discussion for awareness for visibility. So just >> and that's what it is. It's a discussion as we go along and so what things do we need to do? It sets our sights. That's why we do these five-year forecasts. It says what do we need to do now that would you know get us into a
049spot of um addressing an issue in the future as we go forward. Um it's happening here. >> That's okay, Scott. It's okay. I guess we're pulling the plug on that as we look forward to that. >> I think one of the things going forward, you know, we do have the levies expiring. The $3.7 million levy is expiring in 2026. The $2.3 million levy in 2029. That's moving on to a substitute levy on the ballot. So that is critical for us as we move forward on what you know meeting these forecast goals. This forecast is going to change. We have a lot of property tax reform that's going to happen between now and the end of the year. and and a lot of that's because it has to impact 2025 tax year for it to go
050into effect. Otherwise, you have to wait a whole another year. So, we'll be working with that. So, in February, we'll have a better idea of what the property tax reform I think would be uh for us going forward. If the substitute levy doesn't pass and we have to make or we have state cuts or reduce our state funding, obviously we will have to make some significant cuts. And if House Bill substitute House Bill 186 comes into play, that will be um major cuts coming into our budget. So we are uh hopeful as we u look at other districts in the same boat that we can come together and come to a solution that would still with our residents reduce the tax burden that they have plus adequately fund our schools as well. So any questions?
051I know numbers would help. You certainly can get those. Um, we are in good shape from the standpoint if we have this going forward where we are now. February may be a different story as we move forward with the changes we have available. >> And the new levy just replaces the two levies and they immediately as soon as that goes into effect in next year 27, right? >> Yes. So if if it is passed, you know, the proposed tax levy or substitute levy is passed, those are replaced. So it will collect the $6 million um that we had anticipated being collected in 26 as well. >> But immediately replaced. >> Immediately replaced. Yes. >> Not not according to what some sources are saying that we would continue. >> We don't double up. >> Both of
052them would >> we don't double up. So what happens is those go those are replaced the new one comes on. So we'll see that. Yes. >> But it but people but it doesn't we don't collect the new one until tax year. calendar year 27 tax year tax >> half year we'll collect half year >> half year 26 >> and half year >> 27 got >> the build in March and August >> but any rebates will come back >> could be a March you know half and half as well >> it's it's confusing because if it passes we would continue to receive the money that we would receive through what was what doesn't expire until 2020 29. >> Correct. >> But it's not doubled. >> It's not We're not getting both. You're not going to get
053an emergency levy and a substitute levy. You're getting just the substitute levy which is equal to the two emergency levies. >> And it should be noted that the auditor site that shows the increase is not really it's not accurate in the that manner. It's it shows an increase because they suspended the collection of that one levy. But this is still an equal for equal replacement. >> Right? So, what their system allows them to do is in the current column, if you were to look on your property tax um forecast or, you know, levy calculator, the current year has the $3.7 million emergency levy in it because the the $2.35 million levy emergency levy was suspended. It doesn't show. So, you're just you're getting apples to oranges basically. So, what they were able to do on
054the U website was to add a notation that this was suspended and it comes back on in 2026. >> And one thing, and we've talked about this before, but it always bothers me that we don't call an emergency levy an emergency levy because we're having an emergency. It's because that's the only thing that we can call it. That's what the state has said we we have to call. >> Well, we didn't name it. wouldn't name it and we haven't said that we have an emergency. Uh but that's what the state has mandated that it be called >> and that's why some of the property >> keep coming back even at the budget commission. Yes, >> they were giving us a hard time for that and they should know better >> and that's some of the
055purpose of some of the tax reform is changing the language to fix some levy >> because that's what it is. No, I mean it's been labeled that for I don't know how many years, but a long time, >> right? And those again, those levies have been on, you know, we we passed them, the residents passed them in 20 in 2003 and 2005. They've been renewed. Each one of them have been renewed three times. >> Yeah. And we're appreciative of, you know, Mr. Walder worked with us when um on the auditor website because it is confusing and the calculator was not accurate for a variety of reasons. It's complicated, so many pieces and moving parts and he was um very kind and I think the idea of the language albeit still confusing to a general taxpayer
056um because it's a very confusing topic frankly and complex. Um but ultimately Christina to your end um the two emergency levies equal the substitute levy that you as a board put on. >> And one other thing if I may. >> Yes. >> This was um what we brought to Mr. Walder's attention uh and I brought to Karen's attention and then she followed through with that was brought to me by a taxpayer by somebody in the community who had uh looked at what her tax bill was and then she had she had looked at the at the county uh website and saw that her taxes were going up even though she had read in the Chesterland news that there were no new taxes. So, it's very confusing to the community and I thank her for coming
057forward and I think that if anybody else has questions, you know, come forward because that's the only way we're going to get the proper information out there and brought to our attention, right? We wouldn't have been able to to take that step if if it hadn't been been brought up. So, thank you and continue to ask your questions. And anyone has any questions regarding the levy, regarding our finances, certainly please call me, send me an email. I'll be happy to answer those. >> Thank you, Karen. Okay. Um, we have no public remarks for this evening, so we'll move on to routine items. Resolution 379 to approve routine matters of the West Local Board of Education. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> I have a couple questions that that's this right. >> That's
058a separate one. >> That's the later one. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Call the RO, please. >> Mrs. Clayool. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh? >> Yes. >> Miss Levor? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood? Yes. >> All right. Resolution 380 to approve warrants for September 2025. >> So moved. Second. Any discussion? >> Who was? >> I'm sorry. Who was the second? >> I was the second. >> Okay. Next one. I have a couple questions. >> Yes, ma'am. >> One is on the the removal and repair of damaged areas of the high school. Was that because of the roof? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Because I was going to ask if insurance covered it, but no. >> No. Okay. >> And have we heard anything on from insurance on the lights? >> Yes. We accepted um
059the amount was about 17% of what we paid for the lights and there was a equation that they came up with that you know what was broken what wasn't think$3200 >> call the roll please >> Mrs. Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Levworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Resolution to accept increases in the 2026 appropriation. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the RO, please. >> Miss Levvenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clayel, >> yes. Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. Resolution 382 to accept a donation. So move >> second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clayool? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh? >> Yes. >> Miss Leour? >> Yes. >> Resolution 383
060to approve an certificate. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Clayool. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh. >> Yes. Miss Levvenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Resolution 384 to approve student activity statements of purpose and budgets for 2025 2026 school year. >> So move second. >> Oops. We all really like that one. >> Everybody call the role, please. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh. >> Yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. Resolution 385 to approve the October financial forecast. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Miss Levvenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Dr. Benasa. >> Resolution 386 is
061a resolution to approve correction of PDM rate for certified stipens for work outside of the 2425 school year. >> Move. >> Second. Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Resolution 387 as a resolution to approve certified long-term substitute assignment. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leour, >> yes. Resolution 388 is a resolution to accept a certified staff retirement. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> The only thing I discuss is that I said to Karen, when I start seeing uh kids of friends of mine who I knew
062when they were little, coming to the end of their teachings time really makes me feel old. Certainly when >> Miss Sust reached out to me, it was a shocking twist that she would even be available for such a thing. So we wish her well. >> Oh yeah, it's been great. >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Clayole, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Levworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Resolution 389 is a resolution to approve classified staff appointments for the 2526 school year. >> So moved. Second. >> Any discussion? I call the role, please. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Levworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Glipel, >> yes. >> Resolution 390 is a resolution to approve change in classified staff contracts
063for the 2526 school year. >> So move. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Call the RO, please. >> Miss Levvenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. Resolution 391 is a resolution to accept a classified staff retirement. >> So moved. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Any concern? Did we know about this? I mean, do we have a plan? Bus drivers are hard to And I noticed there's another >> We have two. So, >> yes, >> but all planned for. >> Yeah, we had um we had some folks come in and career and we're going to driver. >> Okay. >> Appreciative of Pat service. So, I talked to her last week and told her I was displeased. She didn't seem to care much, honestly. >> How
064rude. Yes. >> Uh, call the RO, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. Congrat Congrats to Pat. Resolution 392 is a resolution to accept classified staff resignations. >> So move second. >> Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Clayool? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh? >> Yes. >> Miss Leworth? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood? >> Yes. >> Resolution 393 is a resolution to terminate the probationary employment of a classified employee. >> So moved. Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Levworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Resolution 394 is a resolution to approve supplemental contracts for the 2526 school year. >> So moved.
065>> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Miss Levvenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. Resolution 395 is a resolution to approve service contracts for the 2526 school year. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clay? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh? >> Yes. >> Miss Leard? >> Yes. >> Resolution 396 is a resolution to authorize the award of service contracts for the 2526 school year. So move. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Miss Clay, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Resolution 397 is a resolution to approve the first reading of
066new policy 1422.01 01 and resi revised policies 0131.1 1613 2271 2342460 3213 4213 5113 5120 5131 5330-5350460-5610 5751-6151-744.01 01 81428452 and rescend policy 0171. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> This is first reading, so we can discuss. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Please. And if you see anything um that you'd like to talk about, please reach out. >> I will. Thanks. >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clayool? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh? Yes, >> Miss Leworth. >> Yes. >> Resolution 398 is a resolution to approve the second and final reading of new policies 0165 0166 7540.09 and revised policies 010 0142.151 0152 0155 0163164 0167.2 1100.011 015204120.08 41217530.01 7530.02 7530.03 754.03 7540.04 8310 8315 9160 and rescended policies 0165.165.2 0173. >> So moved. Second. >>
067Any discussion? Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Cohen Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Levenworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Quel, >> yes. Resolution 399 to accept the 2526 annual report to the board of education on nutrition standards in the district. >> So move. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Yeah, I just have a question. I think I had the same one last year. Um, and that's fine her that review that for the for nutrition, but the wellness, you know, the 8510 is a whole another she wouldn't be approving that and that's part of and that that has some and maybe something we need to do to look at the policy because right now there's there's requirements in the policy that I you know that are um you know so for example we
068should have a annual uh presentation on the wellness committee. There should be every three years an assessment of the committee >> etc. It should be on our website etc etc. So I just think maybe >> I mean I accept this this is fine because a lot half of it is all nutrition. >> Yes. >> And has all to do with food but then that part wellness has to do with exercise physical activity. >> Yes. So the wellness committee meets each year. It is a super it's a board committee um led by Scott um happy to have a presentation to the board about some of the work that was started last year and will continue through this year. So I think separately we're happy to do that. Um let me look at the let me look
069at the date so we don't inundate you with presentations but we'll we'll time it so it's a good time for you but we'll talk about that. look at the policy because maybe there's >> this needs to be it's been a long time since it was reviewed and updated. So it might >> the wellness Yes. the committing to be honest with you. >> I mean pretty extensive. >> Yes. >> So and I'm not saying none of that's important. It's just that >> Sure. Thank you. >> Call the RO please. >> Miss Levworth. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clay. >> Yes. Mrs. Coleman Walsh. >> Yes. >> Resolution 400 is to approve a proposed middle to approve, pardon me, the proposed middle school field trips for the 2526 school year. >> So moved.
070>> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Do Do they always go to a cemetery? That just seems so odd to me. >> I couldn't hear you. >> They're going to visit a cemetery. >> We did last year. >> Did you? Yeah. >> And >> have you ever been to Lake? >> Have you been to Lake View Cemetery? >> No. >> Beautiful. >> He's asking where Garfield is special meaning. >> Garfield is there. >> And then they have beautiful >> floral and >> Oh, cool. Okay. >> And it's sort of on the way. So, it's a nice morning. >> I figured that was >> it's one of the landmarks. No, >> I guess I'm gonna have to go visit. Call the RO, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh,
071>> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Resolution 401 is a resolution to approve the facilities use agreement between Beachwood City School District and West Giaga High School. >> So moved. Second. Any discussion? >> Call the RO, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Capel. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh. >> Yes. >> Miss Leworth. >> Yes. >> Mhm. And have for the past couple years. Resolution 402 is a resolution to approve um reserve school of Applewood Centers, Inc. agreement for educational services with West Chiaga schools for the 2526 school year. >> So move. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Clay. Yes, >> Mrs. Goldman Walsh. >> Yes, >> Miss Leworth. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Sherwood. >> Yes. >> Resolution 403 is a resolution de declaring transportation impractical for
072the 2526 school year. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leverworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. I'll introduce the next resolution and then after you um approve or not approve it, but um second it, we'll have Scott talk a little bit about it just so you have a better understanding. Resolution 404 is a resolution to authorize the request for design build RFP for the water treatment maintenance building. >> So move second. Scott. >> So, I wanted to give a little update on the last time from the time that the RFQ was approved and and we picked Osborne. We've had approximately 10 meetings with architects, engineers, water engineers to kind of go through a lot
073of different aspects. Some of those are building, civil, engineering, utilities, the equipment that goes in there, if it's a full purchase or partial purchase because of the amount of students, placement, impacted areas, turnarounds, there's a lot of things. And then thinking about the trenching component that would come out of that in that process. And after we got the preliminary numbers, we've we've hovered around that $5 million mark that we've we've kind of earmarked for that facility. And what we are pro want to propose out in the RFP is a full build of the maintenance water water treatment facility but with deduct um alternates. So here's the the big plan and here are the things that we can eliminate. One would be just the water treatment, one would be kind of framing in the rest of
074the maintenance and then the full maintenance water treatment. So um if and when the RFP is approved, we would like to u revise that and go out at the end of October. What that would then uh the time frame for that is we would probably put that RFP out for about six weeks which would take us uh middle of December and then from that point on till the board meeting in January we would kind of look through those proposal bids components but proposals and then try to renegotiate depending on who has provided those proposals. Um Todd Brandt is here from Osborne uh in case you have any any specific questions, but he's here to support and kind of uh you know, show us that they're here for us, which has been great meeting. So, we've
075had some great meetings and we've talked about a lot of different things. But our our wish is to go out for RFP, which will have a little bit of qualifications in that RFP with those groups and then um start that process at the end of October. >> Yeah. And I think it's important to note that I mean the well and the water treatment is we have to do correct >> right that's not even up for discussion the maintenance building is the one depending on financing and what happens that's the one and that's why we're getting a quote for it separate so that's great so good >> any questions >> plus we'll know a lot more about funding >> that's what I mean we know funding you know I mean >> it makes sense to do
076them at the same time I know there's going to be savings doing that, but it might not make financial sense if we don't have the funding. So, >> true. >> So, thanks. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. >> Thanks for being here. >> Okay, we can have a vote. Vote. >> Oh, call the RO, please. Sorry. >> Miss Levworth? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clay? >> Yes. Mrs. Coleman Walsh. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Moment. >> Resolution 405 is a resolution approving master services agreement between Osborne Engineering and Westg Schools. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Just is that I I read the contract, but is it pay based on hours and time? >> Proposals under a certain capital money and those would be any
077type of things like the boilers and the plumbing. Sure. You know, looking at how that engineer proposal so having them with us is a good thing. >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Lewart, >> yes. >> Resolution 406 is a resolution to approve a last chance agreement. So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Clayool, >> yes. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Okay. Um, we're on to the discussion of old business and suggestions to be included on future agenda. Um, one thing that I would like to add or talk about is to change the times that our board meets for its
078public meetings from 7:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Um, as Mrs. Clayool noted earlier in just a basic conversation we were having, it gets dark earlier now and long days. So, do we have what do we feel about changing our times for future board meetings? Moving it up an hour. >> Beginning in November. >> Yeah. The November >> 10th. >> So starting the no November 10th meeting we then we can just do it, right? Could we have time to advertise that? >> Yes. Okay. >> And we did change we sent out an advertisement changing the date to November 10th because the OSBA conference. >> Yes. >> Um okay. And then does anybody have anything for um anything else? Old business. Okay. Okay, cool. So, that's done. Yep. Um superintendent report. >> Sure. Thank you. Um I
079wanted to report uh to you that we have lots of kids doing a lot of great stuff right now. Um you saw Charlotte Dylan Phillips represented us at the state golf tournament. Um he's a sophomore and I will tell you if you want to talk about two days of bad golfing conditions, Dylan met them headon last week. They it hadn't rained for a million years and the two days he was to uh be on the course down in Dayton, he um they literally stopped day two in the midst. But um I am happy to report now he's promised to give me lessons. So I'm just saying Dylan, I'm holding you to that. But um he is the son of Dan and Sarah Phillips and he uh placed sixth and he made second team all state.
080So I'm sure um probably in Brandon's uh fall report he'll have a chance to you can have a chance to congratulate Dylan. But we're super proud of him and obviously he's a young um golfer for us. So we're we're excited to see what he has ahead this week. If you would like to be entertained by our athletes, uh we have a girls soccer game at WestG and tournament time tomorrow night. Wednesday night, boys soccer at Westg tournament at 7 o'clock. And then Thursday, volleyball will play. So we have um all of our kids in these areas competing for us at the tournament level. And then our middle school musical is Annie, get ready. Um, and it's going to be Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday. Friday we have a f home football game. So, we will have
081a home football game and then um you can catch that middle school musical. And I've heard snippets and I know some of our uh central office staff went and had a little preview and uh so I'm hearing very good reports, but um feel free to do that. >> She sent us an invitation. >> Great. And for everybody watching, I'm sure the thousands of people live streaming this meeting, um you can get tickets on our website and there's information on the website. So if you just go to the website, um you can get more information about it. So thanks. >> Thank you. Um any board reports? Okay. Um our next board meeting is going to be Monday, November 10th, 2025 at 6:00 p.m. um here in the board office community room. That is a a revised
082date from the originally published because the board is going to be in Columbus for the OSBA conference um during that scheduled one, but we did send that notice out. Um do we have a resolution to adjurnn? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Call the role, please. >> Mrs. Coleman Walsh, >> yes. >> Miss Leworth, >> yes. >> Mrs. Sherwood, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clay, >> yes. Thank you. should have abstained.