001I'm going to go ahead and call the meeting to order. Um, may I ask if we have any veterans with us today? Okay. On behalf of the Jonathan Oliver School Board, we thank every veteran for their service, past, present, and future. Thank you. Let's stand for the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Mrs. Dweiler >> here. >> Mr. Hulie here. Mr. McCarthy present. Mr. Roto >> here. >> Mrs. Walker >> here. >> Let's take a moment for silent prayer and meditation. Thank you. May I have a motion to approve the November 11th, 2025 agenda for the Jonathan Alder regular board meeting? So move. >> Second. >> Roll call.
002>> Mr. Hulie. >> Yes. >> Mr. McCartney. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bo? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dweiler? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. >> May I have a motion to approve the minutes from the October 14th, 2025 regular meeting? move. >> Second roll call. >> Mr. McCartney, >> yes. >> Mr. Boto, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mr. Hulie, >> yes. Mrs. Dweiler, >> yes. >> Motion passes. >> Thank you. Okay, moving on now to the superintendent report. >> Thank you, Mrs. Walker. Well, what an interesting and unique position the district is is in now that we're in this uh holding period. Um, it's my understanding that there will be official board meetings, a Madison County Board of Election meeting this Thursday at 8:30. When I talked to them,
003uh, last Friday, they said around 2 hours, they're hoping to have an answer on where they are on those uncounted for ballots. And then on Monday the 17th, Union County Board of Elections, that meeting starts at 9:00. Those are open to the public. And I sent uh in invitations to each of the board members, not for all of you to attend, but if anyone wants to attend and if a board member can't attend, I will attend. Mark or even Tyler Jester has volunteered to have someone present at those meetings. Uh good news is uh just yesterday we closed on the 12 acres that you see right behind you. This was a year-long process. if those that were uh involved in the community advisory team sessions that took place last fall really right about this time
004was when we were in the biggest debate about if a junior high could go on this site when we needed more space and that's when the conversations with Mr. Rio really got serious about um selling uh he wasn't interested be before that time but when he realized that a junior high make on the site anyways when we discussed instead of a rectangular square shaped property a strip would be able to give uh this site 28% more property. So, I think we did a good job with um I guess answering the the question and concerns of the community, especially the CAD about can a junior high go here? And that's going to give us the parking, the bus loops, the practice fields, and some other options that we'll we'll need in the near future. So, um
005Mr. Engles spent an hour going through paperwork and signing and sending those over. So, I wanted to thank Mr. Engles for uh taking care of that and we own the land now. So, it's really exciting. Great, great news. Great job. So, you know, I know we're in this waiting period for the bond and um but I wanted to reassure the board that the teaching and learning is our highest priority no matter what. I've been talking about the work that Dr. Shrock has been leading over this last several months. And I I think every board meeting I've said, I'm not ready to bring her up yet. I'm not ready yet because the momentum was building. the number of students that we're engaging with was continued to increase. And so I think we're at a great position
006now. Regardless of the bond, regardless of where we are in a year, this work matters and this work is really preparing our graduates for life beyond the high school. So Dr. Shock, I can't thank you enough for preparing. I've seen you do some of these overviews several times in front of different uh folks. So, I'm just really excited for the board to to see how our students are benefiting from this work. >> Thank you. And and thank you for the opportunity to share what we're doing. Um it's it's super exciting and it's certainly not just my work. Um this is a a team effort. I've been overwhelmed with the amount of support, not just from the teaching and learning team, but from um Darren and Clint as a as a high school administrators, from our
007guidance counselors and our teachers energy towards this work. And that's what's honestly been the the way that this has grown really quickly. So um you'll notice I put on the first slide here a pathway for every pioneer and we are passionate about this being something for everyone. um that there is something in it for everyone and that's how this is designed and uh the college career workforce military uh we I laugh about how many words are in that but that does kind of encompass like what what are the what are our students options when they leave here and um that's that is that uh pretty much covers it. So looking at this first slide, I just kind of want to start to start by zooming out so we can zoom in. Okay. And this you've
008probably seen us um talk about this before, but I just wanted to bring attention to it. This is a culmination of the work again that team that district leadership team um from teachers from through and administrators from throughout the district who came together and put this together. Uh and then we re-evaluated it again on Tuesday when we all met and there's just been a lot of conversation around this. We wanted to have some common language from our youngest learners in prek all the way to our seniors on what it means to be uh a a a person who is h has skills that are employable that are relatable and that can carry students into their future. And so you you know about the six skills and across the bottom we have the industries the first
009uh the first list of industries from um construction to aggra business are because of the number of jobs that are projected in this area and we added service because that's who what we really believe in um as a district that that we also need to to remember that there always going to be a need for teachers and firefighters and law enforcement and uh social workers and so forth. So uh and nonprofits. So, this is the overall big picture that we're talking about our students with in all of this work. And I like to talk about a lot a lot about you'll hear me say this several times that we want to talk about careers for our students, but we also want to talk about purpose. And I think that probably there's a lot to say
010there because I think more of our students could talk to you about the things that they value and their purpose even more than they could perhaps the career that they want at this point. And I think it's important that we have a foundation and purpose. Part of that foundation that we're trying to create is again structuring from preK to 12. And Emily and the library innovation um group has been integral in making this happen. Um our our steam classrooms and so forth, but there is something at every building going on. But today I'm going to focus mostly on our high school uh because that's what I was charged with doing first because they're going to be leading us the quickest and we do have a measure that we are being held accountable for similar to
011the early literacy measure um similar weight a 12 a.5% um weight for our state report card when it comes to this college and career workforce readiness. And I've been on a huge learning curve with this. This we had our very first report card come out with this information on it and we scored three stars and that's a really solid score. But how did we come up with that score? They literally take the number of students who graduated in that in that cohort with the number of students who had one college and career readiness marker. So if student Bill has five different markers and student Jim only has zero, it's still a one point for us. We don't get bonus points for Bill having five. Okay, so that's important to remember as we look at all
012of this. Back to the every student, we want every student to have a marker. This is about every student. And so but also understand that we might see tremendous growth in an area. Um, for example, I'm going to talk in a minute about how we didn't have any pre-apprenticeships and now we have four and we have eight students in those pre-apprenticeships. So, that number is going to grow a lot, but if all of those kids already had a college and career marker, it's not going to grow our overall score. So, we want to look at the we want to grow in all of the areas and we want every student to be impacted. The more opportunities we provide, the more impact. So, um there are I listed a few of the report card markers. There
013are more than this. Um there's actually a total of 11 of them, but um these are the ones I really want to talk about today because we like to look at kind of what low-line food there is, what areas we see that we already have some really good momentum going in for our students, what makes sense for our students. We want to be accountable to the state report card, but we also want to make sure we're doing what's best for kids. and we kind of identified these areas as ones that we could really focus in on um to do some uh supportive measures to make sure that we continue to grow in these areas. So, I'm going to go over those right now. The first one is ACT. And you'll see that the um blue
014is the minimum target score and the yellow is the most recent uh the class of 2024's measure. Keep in mind we're always two years behind. Okay. So or a year behind, but it feels like two years because it comes out kind of late. So, right now we know what our state report card is probably going to look like in this area for last year, but this year's students we won't capture for another uh another cycle yet. So, just kind of keep that in mind. Um, and our scores, our our average scores are actually solid comparatively across um the state of Ohio. We have good scores, but we didn't love that gap between what if if students can just raise their score by less than two points, which mathematically doesn't make sense in ACT, but you
015get my idea. Um, then then they can not only get into colleges they want to get into and get money for ACT scores because scholarship money is often tied to ACT scores, but it will also help our state report card. So, we wanted to do something very active to help support our teachers and our students. And we um found a program that was researchbased um that ACT is in collaboration with and promotes that's called mastery uh a mastery um >> prep. Thank you. I wanted to say connect and that's a different program. Thank you Nicole because Nicole's actually a lot of this work. I'm glad she's here. So, uh, our English teachers so far have gotten together and then we're going to set up some times for our math teachers as well where they're talking
016about how to include this program within their within their curriculum. And why this is important is that the state of Ohio standards doesn't align to the ACT. Okay? There are there are things that the ACT tests that are never ever ever in any standards. So, there's some gaps and so they're going to use it to help close the gaps. And we know that some of our students take algebra in eighth grade and then they go to take the ACT their junior year. And that's that's a long time. They might be our best ma best math students, but they may not be scoring to their potential. So, we're going to try to build in some supports for them. And um every student has a subscription to it so they can log in on their own time.
017But we also know that it's probably more likely they'll do it with some guidance from teachers and the teachers can help point them in the right direction for that. So, we're excited about our ACT support. Uh, next is our college college credit plus work. And um I was astounded. I'd seen some of these numbers before, but just calculating them again for the class of 2025 based on current enrollment in a in uh college credit plus classes right now, we are looking at 1,590 college credits earned by this class if they complete the classes they're enrolled in. And that's a soft number because they continue second semester to add classes. um the we went from having seven courses that we offered by JHS staff to 13. This is important because nationally um and in the state
018of Ohio specifically students do better on college credit classes when it's taught by one of their teachers in in like in the classroom, right? And then finally, we are going to add two more classes. We have a teacher as part of a cohort program who's um giving some training through a grant to be certified to teach some speech and communication college level classes next year. So, this is a growing area. Um I'm excited about this. It helps our students um towards college. It helps them. It saves our community members money. Um and it also is a measure on the report card. Nicole, how many students do we have right now in college credits? >> Oh, I didn't put that number on here. Um, >> Clint, do you have any idea how many we have? I
019thought it was out of the 170 in this cohort of of this 2025, I'm going to say I have a I have a chart. I'll pull that. I have that data on my computer, but just not on this slide. Um, it is a long list of students. In order to count for the college for the measure on the state card, they have state report card they have to have 12 credit hours. And so we have a number of students who have maybe three or six, but we also have students who have like 56. Okay. So you see a wide variance there. Um but we I was actually pleased to look at that number to see that it's not just 10 kids taking all these credit credits. It's it's spread pretty thin. I'm going to spitball
020a number of about 50 at least, but I'm going to say even closer to 75. >> It's if you count if you count our classes here at the high school and online, it's well over 100. I'm more like >> I wanted to be >> 15 between the three grade levels, you're talking 150 kids easy. >> Oh, that's right. I was just counting seniors. I I I wasn't calculating on because we have they can take them earlier in their in their high school career. All right, moving on. Um the next area uh that we added this year is um innovative which is our online platform. And why does this matter? What this allows us to do is for our college career readiness is this is some flexible scheduling. And we're talking about every student. This really
021impacts every student. This is college uh this is uh students who are taking classes that they want to be with that teacher um but they can't because they would have to choose between French 3 which is an honors diploma pathway and band which might be a fine arts diploma or just the experience of it and now they don't have to choose anymore they get to do both. Okay. Um we also have students doing credit recovery. Uh we need our we want our students to have those credits graduate and that's an important part of this measure as well. So um we have right now 65 individual students enrolled in innovato and we have 80 courses in progress. Some students are using it for enrichment, some of it using it for flexibility. Um and it's been a
022really positive experience. >> Can you explain what it is? >> Yeah, it's a it's an online learning platform. Um we have a classroom, a physical classroom for some students to come to, some of them are doing it independently. Um and that's where Mr. Glass is overseeing that kind of like study space. So, it's like an online learning lab and then um they the all of the classes that we use in innovative or all with maybe an exception of one or two are written by Ohio teachers in accordance to Ohio standards for Ohio students and that's why we chose this program. It's not a program that has a really vast catalog, but it's a very selective and well-written courses. >> Can I ask a question, Mr. Hayes? Can you just give the board one example, one
023that pops to your mind that's really working for a student that just maybe that's moved in that going to a regular course wouldn't be beneficial for them creditwise and so this is a great pathway for them. >> Um yeah, I can think of multiple students. The the one that's popping into my head right now though is a student who is involved in um band and choir both and needs to get certain number of credits with their with their career goals and with going to college. They don't have room for foreign language. So they're taking online French three so that they can get that so they can get that credit and honestly it gets the the third year of foreign language gets them the honors diploma and also is going to help them with their college
024application. So that's the first one that comes to mind. I think another one that comes to mind, there's a two or three students who were TOL students who we had to find a science class for and in order to continue their TOEFLs program, there was no science class that fit with their TOEFL schedule and ours. And so it's like it's like playing Tetris with schedules, right? And all of a sudden we have the flexibility to say, "Yeah, here's a quality course. You can take it and you can continue welding." >> And isn't self-paced? >> Um, it is. Yeah. So, so we have a there's an attendance system that we have. Um, they have to stay on pace within a certain margin and that's what Mr. Glass keeps track of. Um, so there is a pacing
025guide for it, but a student can finish the course earlier and um, also and there's a kind of a a deadline by the end of the school year to finish it. So, it is self-paced but accountable an accountable program. Next one. Um, we have, this is one I'm really excited about. We have four state pre-appren state approved pre-apprenticeships. State approved pre-apprenticeships are pretty a pretty big lift. Um, and we, um, join partnership with the EFC of Central Ohio to help us build these. Um, this is different than an internship. Pre-apprenticeships are counted in the college career readiness marker on the state report card. Internships are not. Um, state of Ohio made these decisions. Part of it is they put a lot of regulations around these pre-apprenticeships. They have to have um 12 points of credentiing.
026They have to have um 150 hours minimum. There's there's quite a few things wrapped up in this, but we have seven students right now who are working in our K through uh 8 classrooms and we have one student who is starting this week as a in our wellness pre-apprenticeship and she'll be a student athletic trainer. So, we're really excited about that. Um, the impact it's having on our our littlest learners to have a big kid come in and work in their classroom and the energy in meeting with these students who are working with students and thinking this might be a career path they want is really, really exciting. So, that's been really fun. They're rigorous experiences. They're all hands-on. There's not coursework that they're taking to take these classes. It is a a boots on
027the ground experience. Um, but they also have to do things like get CPR certified and um be a Google level one educator by the time they're done. Uh, Ohio means jobs is another um area that we're really working on um building. This is another area that's measured by the state report card. And here's what it means. Um, and first of all, if you look at the if you if you think back to the first slide where it said we raised our our score six by by 6%. This was a lot Ohio means jobs and a lot our guidance counselors going after Ohio means jobs applications for students. Well, how means jobs is an application that measures 15 skills requires students to have to report three mentors and that in two different area work environments work,
028school or community and in addition to that there's Ohio means jobs that's the seal um schools like like us are required to have 250 workbased learning hours. This is a little different. Um the tools is not required to have that 250 hours piece but um but we are and probably probably because tools has so much hand hands-on stuff but the state requires Ohio has slightly different requirements for um for for uh technical settings versus um career tech versus general education. Okay. Um, and what we're doing with this is we are trying to really be more intentional about having students record the things that they do that are work and volunteer and service. Um, and record those hours. You worked that baseball camp for the little kids all summer or that girls basketball camp. Record those
029hours. That's work-based learning. And use your coach as your mentor. That's a mentor. And we probably could all agree that if students can all have 15 skills that they've demonstrated, three mentors, and two places where they've demonstrated that in their high school career, that's worth something. So, it's more than just a piece of paper. It can also work towards their uh it can it's one of the parts of an honors diploma. So, that's also an important reason that we're emphasizing this work. >> Does that go towards a 12point credential as well? >> Not Ohio meets jobs. the work-based learning and the and the um work-based and the uh industry recognized credentials are in two different buckets. They often go together, but in this situation, they don't. So, but for example, I'm glad you asked that,
030Phil, because the pre-apprenticeship, we require 150 hours. So, that can also double dip onto this >> for 150 of those hours and it is another mentor. My teacher that I'm working with or the athletic trainer that I'm working with is a mentor. So, it's reportable in both places. Okay. not related to this the state report card, but I wanted to include this is some of the work that we're doing just to kind of emphasize how we are really intentionally preparing students for the things that they've asked for and hands-on learning and preparedness is our ad club. And I want to celebrate that while this is part of a three-year rollout plan, this is just the beginning. Um we already have a number of students who've had a number of experiences um going to farm science
031review and meeting together with um different farming scenarios and we're excited about where this could take off and build more of that workbased learning connection. We do actually have a student that's working under a work-based learning contract right now with this school where she leaves school to um do special um projects that her 4 um adviser is her mentor and her family farm is her workspace. All right. So, future ready Fridays and community are my is my is my wrap up here. And I saved this for last because this has been where a lot of this work is taking place. I talked about all these different initiatives. It it comes together on the fourth Friday of every month where freshmen have career speakers. They are they go out to micro field trips. We get to
032visit Mr. Julie in a couple weeks at his radio station for our arts and communication group. Um we have um students who have who are who are going to um tour local businesses and industries and they are touring the things going to visit places that they've said yeah I think I like this career and um we're giving them lots of different experiences on those Fridays. Sophomores and juniors are working on ACT prep and future ready skill development. We worked on the art of a handshake introduction a couple weeks ago and we're also going to venture into like how do I ethically use AI? So there's lots of different places and spaces, but maybe those things that teachers are saying, "These things are important, but they aren't really in my standards and I don't have time
033to work them into my classroom. We're using Pioneer period and um leading this work." Seniors last month got to choose between a mock interview, a job shadow, a college visit, or a volunteer experience. And we had nearly 100% participation. So that's been very exciting. and we're bringing in community and um speakers and uh and so forth for things like future ready parent night, but also to speak to these groups to conduct mock interviews. And that's been a really fun connection to let community members see our kids and talk to them and walk away and all of them were like, "Wow, that was that was really cool. That that student really was articulate and that was that's the kind of student I want." um in one of our groups um on on a future ready Friday,
034the speaker pointed at one of the students who was asking really good questions and said, "And I would hire you." And that was that was a pretty cool that was a pretty cool moment. So, just to wrap up, we are focused on not just improving our state report card. That's always important, but the ultimate purpose of this is to help students find their their purpose and their pathway to achieving that purpose when they leave Jonathan Alder. One of the ways that you all can help is that this um QR code links to a survey that this is how we're collecting those community involvement pieces. So um we are gathering from our own community on um people who are willing to talk to our students, willing to do those mock interviews, willing to host a job
035shadow or a micro field trip. And that's how we're um just giving our students as many experiences as we can. THANK YOU ALL. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I didn't have a question slide, but if you have any questions, fire away. >> I just want to reiterate that while the Ohio State test scores are important and they mean a lot to the district. The ultimate goal here is getting our kids the most opportunities possible, not meeting checkmarks. And I I think I probably speak for the whole board when I say that that we're behind you supporting you and we really appreciate the work you're doing. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Can I just have a question? Is is there a kiddo or a high schooler doing the like the field placement for
036lack of I don't remember what you call it at city elementary. >> That's actually a work based learning experience. Um it's not a full pre-apprenticeship, but we have some students who are also I didn't mention that here, but who are um reading to with or or working with some of our students. Yeah. >> Yeah. My daughter talks about McKenna every day. She loves her. So, let me let me share that. She talks about her every day. And that's what we're hearing across the board is that these these u the the opportunity for our high school students to rise to leadership and for our youngest students to be influenced by role models that we want them to be like when they grow up is pretty cool stuff. You know what that reminds me too? The whole
037purpose >> focus um as a parent of three children, you know, we talk about how you can make money in your life. Um and as you approach my age, you start to realize that purpose outweighs money. And I I love the idea that you're putting that thought into their heads when they're children. It would be great to have both, but to disregard purpose will leave them with a very empty life regardless of how much money. >> And that really is what kind of came out of our November 4th work with our teachers is all of them came back. We love the portrait of a pioneer, but let's always remember heart and we're the heart of things, you know, that that heart thinking about it. I think is brilliant. >> Thank you. Um, Dr. Miller, I
038had a question about the meetings at the Madison County Board of Election and the Union County Board of Election. Do you know, you said something like it'll take two hours and like what? >> This was an estimate. I called on Thursday or Friday and talked to a couple individuals at board of elections for Madison County and the best she could tell me was the meeting is open to the public at 8:30. Anyone can join. There will there will be a time that they have to I guess hold an executive session but they are actually counting ballots and we would know the results at that meeting. 2 to three hours is what she estimated. My understanding is they go through each ballot. They go through ballot by ballot and they review the name and the address.
039They confirm with their previous county of record to see if they voted somewhere else and they go through and they approve every single ballot individually >> at these meetings. That's what I'm doing at that time. Yes. >> Okay. So, no one's doing it beforehand. >> Not to my knowledge. I don't believe so. >> Okay. >> I don't know. I never >> really Your understanding. Yeah. You >> understand? My understanding. This is where they establish the official count, the official can. They call it the canvas. >> Okay. >> It's a way for us to know the results maybe a couple hours earlier before they send it off to Secretary of State and post on the website. >> Okay. >> Put us bipartisan. They have a they have a Democrat and a Republican that are there. >>
040That's a great >> watching the watching the process and agreeing that this ballot is should be counted. This ballot should be counted. >> Okay, great. And um one last thing, I just want to thank you Dr. Miller for the work you did negotiating the purchase of land. That was a a long process and it personally gave me a lot of relief having this additional 12 acres and um I I thank you for sticking with it. >> Anybody else? Okay. Um public participation. >> We are now moving on to section seven. This is time for actually did have a question. I just wasn't sure. I didn't get here in time to sign up to speak. I have one question. Um, in the the documents that were put up to the public regarding what happens if the
041bond doesn't pass, there was conversation about I can't remember the specific verbiage about students being split. Um, in terms of I understand you guys have to unload Plane City Elementary School. That that is very clear. Um, will siblings be able to stay together? >> Perhaps not. >> We don't we we don't know at that point and I don't want you to concern yourself with it at that point only because we don't know if we have to make these decisions yet. >> Totally. >> Um, is there a possibility in the future where we are maxed out at Plains Elementary and a >> a student in the same family have to switch schools? That's that's a unfortunate possibility. >> Okay. And then my next question for that response is if if I want my children to stay
042together and they can at Monroe, can I take my other both my kids to Monroe? >> You know what? That's a great question and that's definitely something we will take into consideration as we're trying to work through this and make it easiest on every family. That's a great question. >> Yeah. And then will you guys allow community involvement in that decision-m process? >> Well, we >> and then how do I how do we get involved if we want to? Well, those questions are a great start to getting the community involved because that's something that I don't know that we've considered, but we definitely will. >> We we have went through so many different scenarios and there's even some that we haven't considered yet. >> Um, we're actually using real families that are in the district
043to think about how that would impact them. >> Sure. >> And I think I've used the example publicly numerous times. If a fourth grader, if a family moves in with a fourth grader and a second grader right now, second grader might have to go to Monroe. But I wanted to assure you that every decision that I would recommend to the board, it would be what I think is best, not just for the district, but that individual family as well, too. Definitely wouldn't do anything to try to separate the siblings. We would try to keep them together and give that family the option. It's either fourth grader can enroll at Plane City, the second grader would have to go to Monroe or both go to Monroe. That's what I would like to do. So know that
044that would be a high priority of mine. >> Thank you. That's really helpful. I have a lot of neighbors who are like, "Oh my gosh." Because we're in Derby Derby Station, so we're the neighborhood that's split by counties. And all of us are thinking and having real conversations about it would make sense to split us, especially by county. That would be an easy, understandable split. But >> well, it just depends on which kids are >> totally >> which kids are which kids are in which county, right? >> I know. I know. I know. But that's the I mean as somebody who is really involved with the bond campaign I'm getting a lot of questions from people now and I wanted to have >> well that was one of the things that was noted in the
045>> prior to the bond that we handed out was that there's a possibility depending on what grade students are in >> that they might be one student in one family in the same family might be at Plain City Elementary and another one might be at Monroe or that nextdoor neighbors houses are built at different times. >> Mhm. best friends, next door neighbors. One student might be going to Plain City Elementary, one might be going to Monroe. We were very clear in putting that out there ahead of time so there'd be no surprises on the part of our voters. >> Yeah, I think that was literature maybe people missed. So now they're only paying attention to the document that was attached in your most recent email and I wanted to be very clear if I'm going
046to pass on information that no decisions have been made. >> No decisions have been made. Well, and I think it's going to be a dynamic conver I mean, >> no matter no matter what happens, it even if it even if it passes, you're still talking 3 years before a building's built. And so there's going to be dynamic conversations over the next three years. >> Yeah. >> Potentially about what happens in the next three years. >> I would like to commend you because I know how vocal you've been in participating and being a a captain, I think, in in your big neighborhood. But now that the concern and the discussions are taking place about what if, are you responding and carrying on conversations about the importance of this needs to pass so that we're not in
047that position? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> I encouraged many of my new resident neighbors that especially didn't get registered in time to vote to vote provisionally. >> Excellent. >> So, that was my big message. It's okay if you missed the deadline. Get a provisional ballot on the books. And I I am I am so hopeful that was the work that needed to be done. >> Three of us went around on foot to all 300 homes in our neighborhood and most of them we we hit every house that was part of the like the news lab the or the zero lot homes because many of them don't have children and we thought those were the ones to hit hard first that didn't have children. >> That's good to know that I didn't realize that that that
048development is half Madison and half union. Yes. Because that's that bodess well for the number of provisional ballots. Yes. >> Coming out of Madison County. >> Correct. Most I would say most of us the anything in Union is part of the newest part of the development. >> Just just because it's split in half and there's what 350 homes that are done in there. Does that mean hardly any are Union or are you saying half of it is Madison, half of it Union? Right now >> my property line is 8020. >> Wow. Where I sleep determines where I vote in my house. Yeah. Not even joking. Not even joking. And yes, in May, I went to Union County Board of Elections to vote early. And I got to tell my husband that I'll tell him to
049sleep there. Um but I went to Union County Board of Elections to vote early in May and they're like, "Oh, you're not Union County. You're not registered to vote here. Had to go all the way down to Madison, which was a lovely drive." Um, and that's where I passed Monroe for the very first time. So, um, but no, I I am I am so hopeful we got the right work done in my neighborhood because I know it mattered a lot. >> You don't have to wait for board meetings to come and ask questions. You can get a hold of me anytime and I'll steer you in the direction the best that I can or get you involved in some of these committee work that we have to make. Do >> you have any paid positions
050with benefits? I'm just kidding. I love my job. I I don't I wouldn't want to leave it, but I am very interested in being involved. So, >> thank you. You've already been involved a lot. Thank you very much. >> I hope I didn't embarrass anybody on the community forum. >> Not at all. >> I was told to shut up. >> Um, you know what? Actually, since this is public participation time, I'd like to thank Mr. Is it Sam? Samara, he's here. You want to come in? >> Yeah. Mr. Smart, thanks for joining us this evening. We're actually in our our public participation piece now and Mrs. Walker, our school board president, is invited to end. So, >> yeah, I just wanted to thank you for being gracious enough to come tonight. We did have some
051real serious concerns about the timing of the re-evaluation letters that arrived in mailboxes. And um I think I'm going to um I guess to start off the question um it you can't it seems suspect. I mean the whole community thought it seems suspect for these re-evaluations to arrive that were to our understanding could be higher or lower than the letters that went out. >> That's correct. >> Okay. So why send them? >> Why not wait until the final numbers are out? >> Because the final numbers will not be ready until approximately January. I will be sending tax bills out two weeks later. So with the significant change in values that we've seen across the county, you're you're literally talking about people with thousands of dollars higher tax bills than they've seen previously. And they're get
052they're first finding out when they get the tax bill that's then due a month later. Well, you did send out notices earlier this summer. >> The auditor sent out a postcard that essentially said if you click on this QR code, you can go look at your your revaluations. >> And I did. Okay. >> I did. You don't trust people to be able to do that. You still felt the need to send the letter. >> No, because the valuation is only one element of it. >> The valuation obviously impacts the ultimate taxes. I send out the tax bill. I'm the one whose name's on that letter that comes to your house or whether you have a mortgage company goes there and and you know two weeks later or a month later people are paying that. So
053valuation is one element of your taxes. The other element obviously is the rates. Two pieces that we don't know. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So the auditor will do a revaluation once every 3 years, once every six with a physical observation that is then compiled, sent onto the state. The state may or may not adjust it. Sometimes they I've never seen them adjust them downward, but the department of tax equalization wants to make sure the values are properly reflected in taxing districts. I've seen them raise say there's there's a factor in there that allows them to do it. Uh so typically the auditor will appraise it at 100%. Department of tax equalization can go up to 130%. We've seen in certain neighborhoods in in Jerome Township and putting a 30% increase on values. Now that just
054means that's can be a moving number from the valuation standpoint. The the other side of it is rate. Okay. Now rate is I'm going to assume that everybody in here is like very very familiar with how tax rates in Ohio work. >> I guess my question is do you set the rates? >> I how were you able to get the estimate of increase of taxes? >> Well, what essentially there's there's two there's two components rates. There's there's the rates everybody voted and then there's something called inside millage. >> But you don't set those. I and I didn't try to calculate the rates. >> Now, how can you come up with the numbers? >> Because I can take the inside millage times the change >> and come up with a variable. >> That's the auditor's job
055to set the assessed value of property. >> You're right. I >> You're not the county auditor, are you? >> No. Can I finish, please? Thank you for No. The numbers that are on that sheet were the county auditor's values. >> Were you directed by the county auditor to send those out? >> I have no tie back to the county auditors. it relates to that. >> So why was it so urgent to that you send it out right before election? >> It it had nothing. >> You had these numbers back in the summer. >> No, I didn't. >> It was urgent because I've been working on coming up with a formula that would work for taxpayers since those values went out in August. >> And what if the values change? >> They can change. In fact,
056in fact, the letter the letter says that that this is an estimate based on the current valuations are in the system. All I'm trying to do is give people, particularly people that have a mortgage at escros, some heads up as to what they can expect to change it. I don't have a definitive number. That's why it says an estimate. That's why it's a range. >> And so it was do it right before the election. >> Had nothing to do with the election other than that's when all the everything was mature. >> I've got a I've got a letter here. I've got a letter here from you to our superintendent. I know >> to our board that says the timing of the letter that started to arrive in some mailboxes on November the 3rd, the day
057before the election, was not planned as part of any election cycle. Did you write that? >> Yes, absolutely. in the Columbus Dispatch the day before you sent this letter on November the 6th, which the interview would have had to have been done on November the 5th, the day before you sent this letter. You said there was nothing insidious about the timing. Did I think it would show up on Monday or Tuesday? It was never a thought because it says nothing about the election. Is that an accurate quote? >> Yeah, it sounds like consistent. >> Great. Do you have a Facebook page? uh public or private >> have a Facebook page where you posted about that this I considered it my public duty to provide a heads up to taxpayers of this significant increase even if
058it's not finalized. How can you reconcile in these two other places where you say that it was all just a merry coincidence and here you are on the day before the election posting on your Facebook page that you consider it your public duty that this gets in people's hands before the election so they'll know how to vote. This post was shared 41 times and shared 19 times. Do you want me to read you the reaction from people about their property values going up? This mailing is great timing. One day before we go to the ballot box. >> Here's another one. Property values in Union County and letters went out to property owners this week. Union counties reappraised all properties resulting in massive increases in value. Many properties many properties had one-year increases of $300,000. You
059is it your position that this had no impact on our bond levy and the results? >> Well, you're you're conflating two things, Bruce. First of all, when I found out they started arriving in the mailbox, that's when I posted on Facebook. Okay. >> But but I don't believe you. I believe you posted I thought you posted on Facebook before you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar before the county auditor excruiated you before the county commissioners exciated you and you're trying to save your bacon because you know you got laid out. Then why not wait till after the election? And why not make sure they get to every voter's house? Not a few, every voter. >> They went out to every owner occupied residency in Union County. >> There are people in my
060neighborhood that still haven't gotten county and I haven't received one. >> Exactly. >> They look suspicious. >> There was there was a mailing of 13,7 forget what number I gave you that number. Was it was it to was that to all county resident or all county residents with a a mortgage or was that >> was county residents that have an owner occupancy exemption on their taxes? >> So that would exclude anyone who moved into the who bought for anyone who has a property that was a tax levy after 2013. >> What's that? >> Because owner occupy credit went away in 2013. >> There you go. That's why >> under occupancy is still available at 2 and a half% to every property owner in the county and state. >> It's not on every levy. That's where
061I'm trying to think of how >> you're you're talking about the roll back for new taxes. No, the owner occupancy is a credit. If you live in the property that you own, you have a small credit. It's one one way of identifying people that aren't renting the property or aren't landlords. You're talking about the roll back for existing levies. >> I'm wondering if you have record of letters similar to what you sent on November 3rd that you've sent in previous >> never sent it before. >> Okay. >> So, the Mary'sville So, the Mary'sville bond. >> Listen, we're going to not make this about arguing because what's done is done. It's not going to change what you did and we're not going to drag ourselves to your level. But I think that fact alone, >> which
062fact? the fact that you've never before sent a letter of this nature to the residents to inform them per your public service duty of the potential increase in their taxes really just speaks to kind of what our point >> speaks to a political agenda that you had a levy you wanted to tank I don't know if it was ours but it was somebody's levy you wanted to tank >> there were no other real >> the Mary'sville bond levy that p that failed on November the 10th a week after election day this year in 2024 >> the same kind of calendar >> Mary'sville didn't have a bond levy >> they didn't have a bond levy but the valuation on that levy before their taxpayers which you seem you say you care so much about the taxpayers
063and that the taxpayers know exactly how much they're going to have to pay per $100,000 that was going to raise more than the $179 that ours was estimated to are you talking about the 5.5 million I am talking about the 5.5 5. >> Okay. >> I am talking about the 51. >> That was passed in May. >> No, no, it was passed in May. It failed in November of 2024. >> There was no revaluation in November of 2024. >> What? >> There were no revaluations in 2024. Revaluation is 2024. >> My her Erica's point and my point is you've never made it a practice to give >> this isation. You've never made it a point to communicate with taxpayers in November when there's going to be, you know, a possibility of evaluation. And the language
064in your Facebook post is extremely inflammatory. Significant increases in real estate value% increase in your value. Significant >> the increase value along with any tax levies that were passed will have a significant increase in the amounts that will be coming due in January 1st, 2026. >> That's correct. It's inflammatory language. If we win the recount, even if we win the recount, you have sewed so many seeds of discord in our district that we're going to have to clean up for the mess you created for us. >> I find the conduct unprofessional. >> That is that is what most people consider an opinion. >> May, >> it's a factbased opinion. It's a fact. >> How long have you been serving as trustee? >> Well, sorry. >> 10 years. So there's been three reevaluation cycles and this
065is the first time that you have ever sent a letter in advance and no other time during those evaluation cycles. Is it your case? Is it your opinion that because the evaluations went up so much the public had a right to know? >> Well, do you believe the public doesn't have a right to know? >> Absolutely not. I'm asking about whether or not that's your opinion. My opinion is the the public should receive from their elected officials, the ones that are in a capacity to know or to do so information that could be detrimental to their financial well-being being whether they be uh straight out paying their taxes or through an escrow program. And that is May okay. >> I want to ask an estimate. That's why it says estimates all over it. >> I
066want to ask you this. Have the re-evaluations ever gone down? >> They've not gone up as they've Well, yes. In fact, they have. And 2008, 2009, 2010, value went down. >> Okay. But you only do it every every three years. >> It's it's once every >> in your tenure. They have not >> they have not escalated the level they have in the last two cycles. No. >> Okay. What was the difference last? Well, basically this valuation is based on 21 2021 22 23 and 24 value changes which coincide with COVID and the rapid growth in central particularly Union County as far as housing. So the demand for housing. So your average prices have gone through the roof in Union County over the last three years. Now the revaluation does not look at 2025. It looks
067at 22, 23, and 24 because it's a three-year look back. Over that period, prices, particularly in Union County, whether it's Derome Township, whether it's Mary'sville, or even if it's Ridgewood, has seen massive escalations, both in existing stock and new stock. >> I mean, do you have a problem with that? >> Do I have a problem with values going? No. I think I have an obligation to let people know that taxes are going. What you're saying is you then failed to do your previous diligence because you never did notify people >> and this is the first time you've actually done your duty as a >> public I consider this time to be extremely >> but but three years but three years ago was a similar increase right >> no I mean it was >> at least
068at least 20% next year >> yeah it probably was it probably >> but now we're talking delta we're talking delta 5 to 10% >> bigger impact seem to be in the Derome Township area, Derome Village and things like that. Um, this this cycle they had they they tended not to go up as much. >> So, if the bigger rates were drone village, why not notify that community? Leave us alone. >> But that was three years ago we're talking. >> Okay. But still, it begs the question. >> Everybody that identified that was an owner occupied property received the letter with their valuation changes. >> They didn't receive it. You mailed it. >> Well, yes. >> Many of us still haven't received it. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Mr. Samara, I I think the key is that you
069you did no service to the Jonathan Alder School District. You did a great disservice. >> You hurt our kids. >> But you didn't just It's not about even passing the levy or the bond. It's not even about that. It's way bigger than that. You've swn distrust in our community because of your need to perform what you believe to be your civic duty that you would never did in the past, >> which you are not authorized to do by your boss or your commissioners. >> Uh, first of all, I don't report to the commissioner. >> I'm an independently elected officer as we as you're right. That's who I report to. And my my only actions were in support of the taxpayers, not any other political subdivision, not the commissioners. Bruce, I suggest you go reviews to
070higher advice code. I do not report to the commissioners. They have no say other than they approve my general fund budget. That's it. >> Well, they're not happy with you. >> You know what? I'm not there to make them happy. Okay. >> Mr. Smart, did you know that we were on the ballot as well, Jonathan Alder, for a bond issue? before you send those notices. >> Did I take that? Well, your question should be, did I take that into consideration? >> No, that was not. >> Did you know? >> Did I know you were on I I of course you did because you quoted in the dispatch saying you didn't know it would affect any tax. >> For one year, we've been on >> diligently communicating with our taxpayers that how this bond is going
071to impact them is a $179 per 100,000 of their home value. Yeah. >> And it took uh two community forums and a couple special board meetings to help everyone know that that tax impact. And if it's your um duty to be transparent how you explained to me on Friday to communicate that tax impact to every taxpayer in Union County. Why not do it sooner? 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks ago, 1 month ago, so that we would have one opportunity to share how that doesn't impact our taxpayers the way that they would read that letter if their home value goes up $200,000. One would assume then it's another $179 per 100,000. >> But but it would necessarily be decreased. >> The $179 per 100,000 would be less. Well, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to
072the people at home. Right. >> Yeah, I know how it works. >> Um, and so it's disingenuous. >> How so? How so? >> Because you told we were on the ballot at 179 per 100,000. >> You gave people in the community valuations that increase their home values by 100, 200, $300,000. they're with with not without giving us the ability to say if these numbers are accurate, the 179 per 100,000 is going to go down. We never had the opportunity to answer that to the community. You took that opportunity away from us. Had you sent those letters out in August, we could have responded. We could have explained, >> but you and your responsibility to the community to make sure everybody knows basically undercut the school district. We just want you to understand that. We didn't
073appreciate it. I do appreciate you coming here today and facing the music. For that, I do appreciate it. But >> you know what bothers me most is it wasn't just us as a board. You heard it was our kids. Th this bond was so important to our community, so important to our children, and you tanked it for us. Amen. >> You do know you it passed in uni, right? >> That doesn't make any difference. How many no votes did you prompt with your letter? It makes no difference at all. It passed whether it will never know that. They will not approve that. >> Seven votes would have made a difference. >> Seven votes. >> That's That's 14. >> I got more than seven Facebook posts here. >> 14 points. Not just zooming in. >> Could
074you say sorry? >> Not just say sorry. >> What about in my letter? I regret the >> I have yet to hear it from you and I have children in this district that matter. >> Not not only in Union County, but maybe those in Madison County that know a reappraisal is coming their way to see what happened to Union County that says >> no. >> Look at this and this is what's going to happen. The thing that people don't, like you said, the thing people don't generally understand is if your valuation goes up, it's the same effect as when there are more people that move in, that actually makes the the dollar amount right. >> But we weren't able to we weren't able to message that. >> There was no way. >> There was no
075time to message that. >> And that's that's it with transparency. And it would have been great for to if we could have done that in collaboration. I I I understand >> the I understand the timing probably >> not probably the time >> the consideration I did not have any consideration for the election only the amount of time between when taxes are due and when I had the final numbers with the final drafts with the final letters with the final envelopes >> they're not final and no my drafts in one week would have not made a difference >> still not answered the question why now You've never done it. You've had this job for a decade. There have been re-evaluations every three years. You were asked the question, why did you never do it before? You
076don't have any. >> I thought I answered that, Bruce, by saying the there was a a more significant change this year than I've seen in any of the other recite evaluation cycles >> and it was just so so critical so critical to send it out right before the election. >> I mean, if you were doing your job, wouldn't you have had those numbers earlier? Couldn't you put it together earlier? I've been working on those numbers since August. >> Then you all right then you can make you're making his >> Wait until >> I think >> again. Thank you for coming in. I think we're going to move on with our meeting today. >> Motion to make. Yes. >> I have a motion to make. I have a motion that we authorize the superintendent to consult
077our legal counsel to pursue any and all good >> possible monetary damages caused to the district, including a reimbursement for the levy campaign from the Union County Treasurer or any other entity tied to the Union County Treasurer or insured by tied with as an insurance uh provider for Union County. I'll second that. Okay, discussion. >> I think we should have a I I think we my opinion would be let's let this rest for today. We don't we don't have to make a decision. This the decision to pursue what you're talking about can be done at a later date. There's >> I don't it's not contingent upon whether it passes or not. He has caused us irreparable damage in our district. If this passes now on a recount with provisionals, there are going to be people
078who think that it was done >> Yeah. >> in disingenuously. He has caused us irreparable damage in our district with his actions, which were malicious despite what he says. There's a motion on the floor. We can discuss it, but we're going to vote on it. >> I I think it's important. I I don't know that we have to do anything, but I think we should absolutely explore options here. That's all my motion was was to explore to authorize the superintendent to consult with our attorneys to explore our legal options for possible damages. >> My daughter lives in Madison County and you know I fought with her. Zillow appraised her house online for $320,000. Madison County on their books it's 190. So she pays taxes on 190. But she sees that from the realtors that are
079out there saying her house is worth 320, which is also misleading when it comes to paying taxes. >> Well, that's not only him, but it's also the you have to look at the realtors and >> real retail the price you'd pay would will always be higher than your price. >> But I mean, it's misleading when you look at it and say, "Well, you know, that's another 150,000 I got to pay taxes on." If you don't know the actual price, it could you got to do leg work. >> Mr. Julie, I don't know. The board needs to vote on this, but I can let you know that Mr. Engles and I have already pursued legal counsel to explore options of next steps. >> Okay. >> Well, don't we have to vote on the motion? It's on
080the floor. >> Motion's on the floor. Um, well, let's go ahead and vote on whether or not this board would like to see those options explored that you're already pursuing. >> I think it's actually I think it's a good move because I think it's also covering Jim. >> Yeah, cover authorized if we approve it. >> We are asking him to do that. He's not doing it on his own. We're asking him to do that. >> Yes. >> It's only exploring options. Okay. Ready for a roll. Mr. McCartney? >> Sure. Yes. >> Mrs. Deweiler. >> Yes. >> Sorry, I got you man. Um, Mrs. Walker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hulie. >> Yes. >> Mr. Ro. >> Yes. >> I think we I think we should have a motion to change the agenda for an addition agenda.
081>> I mean, it's still within Rob's rules. will come out fast. I can write it. >> Okay. Now, Mr. Angel. >> Okay. Um, >> if we could change the mood a little bit in the room and get to communicate. >> Yeah. You want to take a break? I need a drink. Yeah. >> Can I have a water? Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. How quickly is this replayable? >> Okay. a motion to approve the October 2025 financial reports as presented. >> So move second. Okay. Um so anyway, so October came and went. We're 33% of the way through our fiscal year. We're currently right on track. Um our revenues are running just a little behind where I expected to be, but our expenditures are a little bit ahead. Um overall, I'm not too concerned. Um
082I do want to let the public know um that we do have our financial statements for fiscal year 2025 completed. Those are our gap prepared statements. Um so they're online. They're not audited yet, but if anyone wants to take a look and u look at them, feel free to do so on our website. >> Okay. Any comments? >> Roll call. >> Mrs. Dweiler. Yes. >> Mr. Hulley. >> Yes. >> Mr. McCartney? >> Yes. >> Mr. Boto? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. >> Right. Can I have a motion? Can I have a motion to approve the following grants and donations? >> So move. >> Second. >> So I do want to invite Mrs. Buyers to describe them. They're all um four we have we got awarded four times from the same
083grant and she can do a better job explaining how they're going to be used. >> Yeah. So we um so Battel has a grant through the Ohio STEM Learning Network um that's been coming out every year and we actually had a lot of uh teachers who took it upon themselves to write their own grant and figure out how um we could just kind of improve things within our buildings. And so we had four teachers or four educators that were awarded the grant. So just to give you a little background, um Brianna Shainner over at the junior high, she wrote her grant last year, the same grant, and had a set of hummingbird kit robots that um we've been passing between all the buildings. And so she wrote the a grant to get her own set
084of those. Um it's just a good way for coding and robotics. And she can take that and extend her projects in a million different ways. um is a really great resource that we didn't have before that. Um we had, let's see, this one is here, another one at the junior high, Libby Hine. She wrote hers to um put in a sensory garden walk over at the junior high, and her kids are going to help put all of that together. It's just going to be a good project based learning for her kids that she's serving. Um here at the high school, we had Lori Kerzy that earned a grant and hers is going to be focused on 3D printing and getting 3D printers in here. her goal is to pose a question to her students to
085find something here within the building to fix or improve and then create that model um and go through that process and actually physically create that model. Uh and then over at Monroe, Lexus Wolf, she was awarded hers for a mosaic design challenge. So within their house systems, she's going to work with um each different house to create a different mosaic to put it together to create a whole masterpiece for Monroe to enjoy. Um I think with hers too there's some take home parts as well. So again uh this was not any of my doing. It was it was our teachers that they looked around and saw a need and a way that they wanted to kind of uh elevate and extend what they're doing and and they were were awarded some really nice grants. Yeah,
086>> that's awesome. That taking that initiative and like finding the need, finding being able to articulate it and doing the work to apply for the grant >> and they're all different things. So, >> yeah, they're all different, right? No, are you saying they didn't copy their grant request? >> They did not. But even just the thought of like a project of like what could we do? >> What could they all sound awesome >> different? So, yes. >> And great for our students. That's great. >> Yeah. So each U teacher was awarded $5,000 towards their project. Um so yeah, thankful for their efforts and I'm excited to see what they do >> and congratulations. Yeah, it's awesome. >> Great job. Cool. >> Okay, roll call. >> Mr. Hulie, >> yes. Mr. Steweiler, >> yes. >> Mr.
087McCarten, >> yes. >> Mr. Mo, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. May I have a motion to approve the amended appropriations and certificate of estimated resources as presented? >> So second >> uh and so this is to um budget for these grants that we just accepted. So we received the checks yesterday to the bank. They can start um putting requisitions for purchase orders, get their supplies in as early as tomorrow. Okay. Roll call. >> Mr. McCartney, >> yes. >> Mr. Vot, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mr. Hulie, yes. Mrs. Dweiler, >> yes. Motion passes. >> Okay, moving on to section 8. Can I have a motion to approve the employment and personnel consent items as presented under 8.01 and 8.02 and 8.03? So moved. >> Second. Any discussion? >> Roll call.
088>> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. >> Mr. Boto, >> yes. >> Mr. McCartney, >> yes. >> Mr. Hulie, >> yes. Mrs. Stweiler, >> yes. >> Motion passes. >> Okay, moving on to new business. may have a motion to approve the overnight trip for the um high school boys wrestling team as presented. >> So move >> second. >> Yeah. >> Discussion. So, they're just going to make a decision on the fly on this. That's what I gather from the >> No. Um, >> may possibly stay overnight, but may not. >> They will go, but they don't know if they're staying. >> Depends on private schedule. The option is so he has the option, right? >> Yeah. Okay. >> And paid for by the team and their fundraiser account for the athletic boosters to stay overnight. Okay. So
089they have approval from us if we so choose. Okay. Roll call. >> Mr. Hotop. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker. >> Yes. >> Mr. McCartney? >> Yes. >> Mr. Hulie? >> Yes. Mr. Stweiler? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. >> Okay. May I have a motion to declare transportation impractical and offer payment in L of transportation for the school year for the following students listed in our agenda. So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Discussion. Roll call. >> Mr. McCartney. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hulie? >> Yes. Mrs. Dweiler? >> Yes. >> Mr. Vto? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walker? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. And may I have a motion to approve the resolution to pursue modular classroom units and authorize the treasurer and superintendent to enter into a contract. >> So second we would still have approval over
090the contract. There's there wouldn't be any contract unless the board is accepting and behind the plan. >> Right. >> This allows us to explore um I I I want to be careful what I'd say publicly about what I recommend for where and how many modulars at this time. I think it's very important that we see where the bond lands because that does change >> some things with how many and where. >> Okay. So >> I I do I do want to thank the board for everyone u being present at Shakina this this afternoon to walk through uh their four modular classes that I feel it's very beneficial to experience and walk through classrooms, hallways, lighting, uh restrooms so that you will know you know what you're voting on maybe here in the next month or
091two. >> I appreciate you putting that together. That was really helpful. Am I allowed to ask a question about the modulars at Shakina? Were those once upon a time property of Jonathan Alder? >> We're not aware of that, but what we walked through were brand new ones. >> I'm asking for the public because some people think that they were >> so I'd like to >> but they are not the ones that are currently at Shakina. Those those they purchased on their own. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you for clarifying. >> Even if we did, you know, give chain um migras, it's not like we can just go ask them for them back. >> Oh, I completely understand. Have >> I seen those comments? >> I'm just trying to support how fiscally responsible you guys
092have been >> and make sure that the community knows those were not ours once upon a time and we did not just give them away to need them back, >> right? Yeah. >> Or have to purchase one. Love this stuff. Um and just to be clear, this is basically gives us authorization to you know start the procurement process if we were to go down this route. Um so we can advertise bids if because this will be over bidding threshold. We can you look at cooperative purchasing uh programs just so we can um as we you know senator Miller puts together the plan we have an idea we can actually provide the board actual pricing cuz we have bids we can actually show you how much it's going to cost us if this is something we
093need to pursue. >> Well just to reiterate we're not purchasing anything right now. We don't have a we don't have a firm plan right now. >> This is just to start the process. Yeah. >> Okay. Roll call. Mrs. Dweiler, >> yes. >> Mr. Hulie, >> yes. >> Mr. McCartney, >> yes. Mr. Votto, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walker, >> yes. Motion passes. >> Okay. Section 10 of our agenda is um theformational item regarding the bond issue and the impact which is open to the public. Um does anybody have anything additional that we didn't already address? Because we kind of we addressed >> covered a lot of ground. >> We did cover a lot of ground on this. All right. >> Do we know how many votes are going to be counted? >> We don't know exactly.
094>> Our understanding is 103 as of the last >> counted or evaluated. Evaluated. >> Well, there's Yeah, that counts the >> Well, not Hold on. We don't know that yet. >> Yeah, we Yeah, we don't know. Those are the absentee ballots that are requested and not yet returned on election night plus provisional ballots. >> Okay. So, some of them may not be >> if ballot did not arrive did not arrive by Saturday, it's out. So even though we have a number of how many absentee ballots were outstanding, we don't know how many have been returned. >> We do know how I broke down. >> Do you know Do you guys know the number of provisionals? >> Hold on. Essentially, >> I thought that that's what we were talking about. Give me just one sec. I
095can tell you how many were returned. You guys are crazy. >> Included in the official results that were posted on >> Oh my goodness. Okay. Okay. So, as of Tuesday, >> today, >> I'm sorry. Um I'm sorry. As of Thursday, my apologies. Last this as of last Thursday >> in Union County, there was 25 provisional 15 um >> absentee 15 uh absentee that were turned in. >> There's 40. >> Okay. Madison County had 19 absentees turned in and 32 provisionals. >> Yes. >> So what's that? That's the number I thought we were talking about. >> No, cuz there's more could have come. >> could have came in since Yeah. There's there's >> between Thursday and Saturday >> there. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And I and I called both Madison and Union County and they
096were um >> second hearing from you. They were they they weren't they were they weren't willing to answer that question. >> They they didn't have it broken down. >> On Friday they told me 31 provisional, 32 absentee in Madison >> that we turned in. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> 31 and 32 in Madison. >> Madison. >> Well, see that's different than what Bill just said. >> Well, but but but that Friday versus Tuesday. >> Well, but we'll find one less original >> when we get the final count. How will we be notified? I mean, what can't we look at? >> Do we get the Madison County numbers Thursday? This coming Thursday, >> this coming Thursday. And we get the Union County numbers next Tuesday. I think Monday. >> Do you look in the
097paper or is it going to be on >> It'll be on their website. Look for official Canvas official results. >> Sure. If it passes, you'll probably hear from the district, >> but if it doesn't, I'll be busting that out. Do you want us just to email you directly? >> There's another good chance that there will be a recount as well too. >> Yeah, there could be an automatic recount which then delays the process even further for when it's officially official and then after the automatic recount then there could be a potential of someone on the losing side either side um to ask for a manual recount. So that delays the certification a little bit further. >> Okay. Okay. Now, are we we're good as far as bonds issue goes. >> Great. Okay. Um the next
098regular board meeting will be Tuesday, December 9th, 2025 at Kanan Middle School at 5:00 p.m. And um may I have a motion to adjourn, please? >> Second. >> Mrs. Dweiler. Yes, >> Mr. Hulie. >> Yes, >> Mr. McCartney. >> Yes, >> Mr. Voto. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Walker. >> Yes, we are six. Okay, thank you everybody. Thanks everyone.