001[Music] okay I'm going to go ahead and call the uh March 11th 2025 school board meeting to order uh let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you roll call Mrs deer president Mr hulie yes Mr McCartney yes Mr vop here Mrs Walker here we have a moment for silent prayer and meditation thank you can I get a motion to approve the March 11th 2025 agenda Mr Roa yes Mrs deweer yes Mr hulie yes M McCartney yes Mrs Walker yes motion passes thank you can I get a motion to approve the minutes from the February 11th 2025 regular meeting so moved second any discussion
002roll call Mrs deer yes Mr hully yes Mr McCartney yes Mr voto yes Mrs Walker yes Mr pass thank you okay moving on to section four of the agenda the superintendent's report thank you Mr Walker well lots of communication went out from the district this past month um especially since the last Board of Education meeting the Pioneer pages that uh Mr Jester sent to press works hit our homes around the third or fourth week in February there was a letter from my office explaining the 18-month process of the master facility planning with the bond facts um Mr Jester sent out the bondax flyer sheet and several different links from the treasurer's office there was the funding story Mr Engles did a great job putting that together and sharing that with our families and then the
003um the Uh current a usage valuation information was also sent out to our families so I think we've done a pretty good job of communicating to our families and our residents about the plans moving forward and the bond issue and I I think moving forward the most important pieces that we're making small touch points with as many individuals and different entities that will listen and allow us to come speak uh Mark and I are willing to get in front of as many individuals and talk about the fact in the process and how carefully it was done the involvement with the community and then allow the board or anyone else that wants to participate in Sharing uh how this bond issue impacts our community so we're really excited about that work over the next couple months
004I can tell you that uh um I have numerous speaking engagements that are already scheduled and hopefully you know another dozen or two dozen more we have some families that are opening up their homes and inviting me in they're going to have neighbors over and it's going to be comfortable conversations about the process and how uh the bond issue impacts our families for futures you know uh Decades of teaching and learning so we're really excited about that um Mark did I miss anything I wanted to thank you for that extra uh Financial work that uh you know a lot of you know individuals in the community are going to have questions on not just the property tax but those with till hand so put that together you're welcome yeah that was a very well done
005it was yeah that's it for my report okay any questions for Dr Miller challenge that was the quickest report you I know it seems weird you have you have a game tonight i' I've beening the board updated you know this has been months and months of work so I think we're we're we're getting to the Pinnacle here and so we're just excited it's going to be very busy next couple months we're going to get in front of as many families as we can but I I feel like the communication from the district has been effective so now it's just those touch Point conversations that need to take place leading up until May I will say that I looked at the agenda I thought wow we have been putting a lot of work over the last
00618 months into the preparation to get here and it's very clear by how like now it's we're there we arrived so thank you good luck to all you know the conversations that you have I wish you all the right words and thank you you know I I appreciate you doing that reaching out to the community too so Mark the yes um egg rundown that you sent was that digital there's a digital copy on I know I read it but I'm just trying to yeah so our bond website on that screen you see and so it's on that too on that website okay yep I just want to know yeah and that's some yes we know um we have a lot of agricultural land especially in mass county and it's just how the values of that
007land differs from residential so we want to just point out um how that's different where to look you know so when you doing trying to figure out your own tax bill y um because it is confusing just you look at Mass County's website uni count is much Clear of what what it actually is M County do some mental gymnastics to to get there we want to put that out there in front of people yeah so all right good thank you thank you anyone that's interested in learning more and you don't want to send me to their house you can uh send them right to this link if you see that video in the bottom right Josh goes through the whole um Master facility planning process as well too with the PowerPoint so that's there and
008then um I did forget I was going to ask Mr Jester he's got some analytics that are some are impressive some are a little bit disappointing but if you want to share a couple numbers board oh um I mean I guess it just depends on how you look at it we finally set up our district website to Google analytics which it started keeping track on February 17th so about 3 weeks now we have 350 views visitors to this page um the impressive part is I guess kind of the standard for keeping people on a web page is about 50 seconds to 60 seconds um the average user is spending over two minutes on this page wow so they are people here at least spending time and getting all the information they need so um we're
009really proud about that so um and again if anyone has questions they can also click that questions image right there and fill out a little Google form it comes to my inbox so I at least forward on to whoever we need to forward it on um and get those questions answered and we have had people use it so we know is working do you have any analytics from Elevate aler um I only get like the amount of visitors a week and they're like I would say on average it's been between 80 and 90 a week over the last couple months so our website's a little ahead of that but most so if you look at ours about 100 and another 80 or 90 we're talking almost 200 views each week between the two websites cool
010that's good right thank you okay uh public participation I think you're up hello my name is Sophia Hicks I'm a senior here at Johan high school and I would start by thanking you all for letting me speak to you today so I know that there have been in recent years some issues with chords at graduation there have been students clubs classes that have added an unnecessary amount of cords that weren't given out by the school or approved by the school um that being for Leo Club national pride stols or band choir to name a few um currently we have approved for valedictorian salutatorian perfect attendance and National Honors Society as well as honors diplomas for cords and STS that will be given out a graduation but I would like to kindly request that we read
011Spanish honorary Society cool and scrol society and Military Appreciation so Spanish honorary Society also known as loia that's honor hispanica is a nationally and internationally uh renowned Society at the same level as National Honor Society it is for Spanish students who have taken at least three years of Spanish and have met the minimum requirements a little bit about GPA a little bit about their greed in Spanish cool and scroll is for students in journalism or other newspaper related classes uh they have to be at least a sophomore and in the top foot of their class and also uh write uh up to par material to qualify for that again both of these societies are nationally and internationally renowned and respected which are at the same if not higher recognition of National Honor Society which we
012will be recognizing in addition to that military appreciation is very important to me I have some of my own friends who will be joining the armed forces and those kids do have to make a big decision to go into the military and they do spend a lot of time to meet those requirements um and time thinking over the amount of time that they will be dedicating to the Service uh I know Mike Palmer rest his soul was very fond of those kids as well and uh I believe that we should continue to uphold that Bor I know that cords can turn into an everybody gets a trophy mentality and issue but I would like to say that After High School we don't uphold academic Merit and I do think that graduation is a really good
013time and really the only time that we do get to show that and appreciate it so there's my case thank you very much thank you tell me a little bit more about uh the journalism one yeah so cool in SCH Society is for kids who take journalism here as well as yearbook because they do have to write much for the yearbook um they from what Miss Marlin had said they have to be in the toop of their class and they have their own induction ceremony same as NHS they just typically do it in class um and is they have many chapters here we've had a chapter here before for many years same with panish honorary Society we've had it for a while and those kids do work hard to maintain that so you said top
014third of the class and then is there a comparable on the Spanish Honor Society is that top I can't say for sure what that is but it is very few in our school because you do have to make it through three years of Spanish years which for most kids is to their junior year and to get the store for for graduation you have to be in Spanish your senior Year too okay it's 3.5 in 3 years of Spanish 3.5 GPA GPA in Spanish in Spanish okay okay and three years of Spanish including your senior Year yes so anybody else have any other questions okay thank you I I do I want to share with you first of all how impressed I am that you came in and you talk to the board and you look
015very nice you're very presentable your speaking was great all of it that takes a lot for a student yeah um I also can say to you that we will take into consideration what you said here today and we will discuss it and I will get back to you on that and instead of just leaving you with that I did want to kind of tell you what the thinking of the district is so graduation is a time to celebrate every student who has met all of the course curriculum sufficient to satisfy state standards to receive that diploma and we all take that very very seriously it's the Pinnacle of what we you're here for as students and there's kids who excel in so many areas you know um they excel in athletics they excel in choir
016they excel in the Arts they Excel they join so many service organizations I mean they do more and we love every sect of all of that excelling and when it comes to graduation we want to focus on the actual reason that we're there which is the satis satisfying the academic curriculum and then also acknowledge those kids who display academic Excellence across the entire curriculum so that that was our thinking that being said um we weren't trying to take anything away from anybody yes and we are still trying to make sure that all of every achievement whether it be activities academics Athletics is still honored we still do have our um academic Awards night um we we we anytime you guys do something great we try to highlight it and we want to highlight it um
017so I just thank you for your time we're going to take it under consideration I just wanted to give you a little bit of that background too aome can I ask a question yes so what would you what would you think about something like if we had one additional cord and it was a color coded cord okay so and then you had a I'm spitballing I'm just coming up with this on my own right now so it may be silly but you had a list of say 20 different clubs or organizations or different things that you could qualify for that could be in the program and depending on how many of those you hit you got a different color cord and then we were talked about a QR code is that right Clint we talked
018about a QR code that they could scan to see the the awards it's that's it's it's that's existing already if you CLI if you do the QR program and list all the wordss that the kids have and then so then your your colorcoded cord would signify how many of these of the approved things would that be a compromise or a would would that would you feel like that would accomplish the same type of a thing or you are you specifically asking for three additional cords available but only for these three things what I was thinking originally was three specific cords are schs for these three things I think that definitely is a wonderful idea that is worth thinking about but you do have to consider how many people actually are going to open a bulletin
019and scan a QR code and BR through everything to find out what kids are there for and there also was like a firm line that I had to think about drawing on what to include and what not to include because I have some of my own friends who inquire for six years or banned for eight years who really wanted to wear their metal or their cord or their soul because that is a lot of hard work but those were given out by the boosters not by the school and so the line that I had in mind to draw was nationally or internationally recognized academically Merit based societies specific to grade point average or any sort of academic participation and we could leave the Arts and Athletics to their own things but military appreciation also is
020just I think it's a Zone thing that is deserving of recognition yeah yeah okay you've made a compelling argument yeah thank you thank you Miss X I want to thank you to your principal Mr Hayes and then um meeting with me yesterday and providing us the opportunity so I can share with the board president that you wanted to come and I can guarantee you and promise you this board wants what the best for the kids and elevating all of our policies so they'll they'll take a strong consideration Mrs W we'll get back to you awesome thank you very much thank you much thank you okay moving on to do we have any other public she's AR you all right thank you no other public participation no okay um moving on to section six grants and
021donations can I did I skip the financial report I did I'm I'm sorry you've just been sending out so many great I know great things that we just thought we knew already we didn't think we my apologies my apologies Mr Ang um do you want to go ahead with a financial u a motion can I get a motion to approve the February 2025 Financial reports as presented some moved second okay um so um really quick overview of February 2025 um we received four advances from man County for Real Estate settlements is something request every year for our first half settlements so that would be for the tax bill are at the end of January I'm expecting the rest of settlements from Manon County and also Franklin and Union County sometime this month hopefully sooner than
022better um but right now we're definitely on track to exceed our real estate revenues from last year um which we get all the settlements in in terms of our budget we're 66.6% of the way through the year we're running below we're running below that um most of part of that has to do with our um expected transfer 2 million at the end of the year to our Reserve accounts um but we're also r on track of Personnel Services um benefits services are running a bit High while we're trying to just get caught up on our our facilities and getting our buses repaired um just had a lot more than expected so far this year but overall we're on track um it's been mentioned also that our funding story um this is something that is online
023Mr Jester also put it out on our social media everyone has a copy of B um this is something that a lot of my colleagues across the state are putting together just to highlight each individual school district and where the funding comes from and also where it goes I think it's good to be transparent to all of our stakeholders so they understand you know exactly how we're funded um and try to put it in a way that's understandable and not too overwhelming um this still pretty high level so i' be happy to answer any questions about it if you guys any if there's any follow-ups or um confusions about it I do want to point out a couple things though that compared to our neighbors our in the Three Counties that the district resid in
024so Union Madison Franklin um our residents were paying the third lowest effective tax rates and amongst all the school districts uh 22.6 Ms of effective taxes um which is um again third lowest the last time we had any new money that were approved by our voters 2014 with her income tax or part of her income tax last property tax was our bonds in 2002 last Bond operating Lev is 1979 just kind of shows that we're using our resources well we're not continually going back to our voters asking for more money we're just stretching our resources as far as they could so um I think it was very impressive staff for our district to to highlight I'm sorry did you say we're in the bottom third or we are third from the bottom third from the
025bottom as in terms of the lowest effective tax rate in Madison and Union counties so massive how many districts are that's a lot of districts it is yeah massive PLS in London barely beat us out so yeah but just like talking like half a mill or so it's very close how many districts I don't know top of my head the number but yeah this it's a lot you said Madison Union and Franklin and Franklin mhm okay 23 yeah did you just know that so counted oh it's uh it's available online this is all fiscal year 24 most recent fiscal year numbers so um feel free to share it wide and thank you Mr Jer for pushing this out I mean Mark it's really excellent it just shows I think again how financially responsible we are
026as a district um you know it's really good stuff and I was really impressed that the pong Levy that we passed back in 2002 was for more Mills but today we're actually paying on it only at 1.5 1.5 which is phenomenal mhm you know we're asking for 5.12 Ms in May which is lower than what we asked for back in 2002 yeah which is eight plus bills yeah so you should all have in your inbox a link to uh the state auditor site that I sent you today where it highlights our district is one of the few districts in the state of Ohio where we're um in the 91st percentile and above for amount spent per pupil given results in our district so we're just to shade over 10,000 per student and Columbus spends 16,000
027per student and has test scores that are yeah very bad very bad so thanks for sending that it's another good thing to share with anyone who would question about how we're using our money yeah it's definitely being spent in the classroom that's where the focus is so that's my report there thank you thanks okay any other questions okay roll call Mr Ro yes Mr Walker yes St wer yes Mr hulie yes Mr McCartney yes motion passes okay section six uh can I get a motion to accept the following grants and donations which include um Napier and Son's Tree Service donating 9,069 and change to Jonathan or School in athletics uh stal Necker's top soil donating two cubic yards of dirt um to Canan uh the Garden Way Station expansion and the Glenn's family giving two
028sixth grade Camp scholarships to Kanan so move second okay I have no comments other than thank you for the support yes thank you to um all the donations and um the particularly the two sixth grade Camp scholarships that's pretty it's pretty nice thank you um roll call Mr V yes Mr McCartney yes Mr hulie yes Mrs duttweiler yes Mrs Walker yes motion passes okay moving on to section 6.03 can I get a motion to approve the then and now for Babel uh for 11,200 so moved second okay um discussion I can comment if You' like I would love for you to comment briefly so I just want to comment as graciously as I as I can I think with the turnover of the leadership at central office Carla and I um doing an audit of
029all of the Educational Tools that we're using and um understanding where some of the money has been spent before us we we learned about this tool that we think that we can do better and save with but it was under a auto renew subscription under a previous assistant superintendent and we've exhausted or expired this contract this spring but we are uh required to pay this contractual cost we're doing the best we can to get the services out of it the best we can in spreading it out but I think we can do things better moving forward so we need board's blessing to uh cover this cost yeah and as a reminder this is under report policy and orio vice code have an aend now certificate over $3,000 to I can go ahead and authorize payment
030but then get the retroactive approval by the board so we're working um I do want to just comment quick like as you may remember when I first came on we had a lot more than and Nows and that was something that you know Mr Johnson wasn't regularly monitoring specifically through the operations Department yes and I'm just happy to say we got that mostly under control you know there there's anything and now it's not over this $3,000 limit um so we're really doing a good job tightening of purchasing process we're getting Buy in from administrators so this is a case of something being Auto renewed that we weren't aware of um we're doing our audit of what kind of Licensing and subcriptions we have we're going to be catching this stuff and to to give you
031visual I I feel like um in this department uh and in operations there were purchases made that were just unfortunately hodg Podge on on fixes but what we're the expectations that Mark and Carla and I are putting in is we're going to be ly K12 there's not going to be a hodge podge of fix here repair here educational tool here everything's going to line K12 makes sense we'll be able to easily share that with the board at any time once we have it all M so this is one that renewed before we were aware of it and the plan would be to have to pay it yeah obviously get out of our contract then we'll get out of it yeah okay just put it to bed well I applaud the effort to say on top
032of all of this one the then Ann now which is great we're finally falling in compliance with everything and two paying attention to where the money's going and and um making fixes where we need to and three getting us all on the same page K through2 like it's good stuff happening in this District thank you guys that's been a long time thing that I've heard teachers saying like oh it's just like I rebuilding a lot of site based decision making some really good and some can be better but it will be line K12 right great um do we do World call for that yeah um we need World call yeah so Mr McCartney yes Mr vop yes Mrs Walker yes Mr hulie yes Mrs D wler yes okay can I get a motion to approve
033the employment and Personnel consent items as presented in 7.01 resignations 7.02 employment and 7.03 job descriptions so I'll second okay um I went through everything and I don't have any questions um but does anybody else have any questions about anything including the job descriptions or I had a few things um first of all thank you for all the work that's a lot of dog descriptions that encompasses a lot of things and expectations um so I did talk to you a little bit about the the similarities and yet differences between the director of operations the facilities HVAC and Improvement and the maintenance technition jobs and just like whether there's going to be overlap or like how how that will play out with you know a lot of the job description things are sound very similar so
034how do you how do you balance three different people doing kind of the sameish kind of things but um and you explained there would be a lot of collaboration and working together with that I did wonder about service logs and maintenance logs does that me to be Quantified on one of these job descriptions that somebody is in charge of maintaining service logs because I know that's been something that has to happen in the past I mean I'll have to look at the job description but it should be our um facilities and hbac uh special projects Improvement okay coordinator and the reason I changed this to a coordinator over maybe last time we talked was a manager of the EV I I prefer this person not managing other individuals and be a coordinator districtwide working with
035the operations working with the te uh maintenance technician working with the custodians working with the superintendent coordinating all of the uh contractors contracts letting me in the operations person know when something is actually finalized and it's okay to pay something that I learned was over the last couple years things were being paid before actually checking to see if they were completed maybe a project was started or contractors were in but it wasn't done to our satisfaction then it was paid and then we have a hard time getting them to come back so this person will check off log everything that's completed and give us the okay to pay okay I mean I see that it talks about maintenance for air filters and quarterly changes for that and maintaining mechanical rooms which that could possibly fall
036under that I just wasn't sure if it needed to be specified or not but it seems like a logical place to put the logs for work under that position right coordinator yeah and then the other question I had was the maintenance technician job oh it does say 260 days I was thinking one of them didn't specify but maybe I just maybe I just missed it the terms of employment I didn't think it was specified but maybe it is well I looked sorry oh maybe it was the director of operations terms of employ employment are not listed as like a number of days or anything it just says salary administrator with experience and qualifications it would be 250 or 260 I it just depends on the individual but Mr Engles and I will work that out
037once we find our final candidate but it'll be 250 or 260 for sure it's it's it's all year round work okay but you can lay that would you add that contract later M yes it would be in the contract okay okay that was the only thing I wondered because I just noticed it wasn't in there for that position I I want to comment to all of the board about this is an amazing opportunity for the district to improve in this department I'm really excited because I feel like a lot of things fell on me so a lot of more of my time was spent in this department so um this is kind of a a rebuilding opportunity I'm really excited about the way this is going to look next year it's going to there's still
038going to be some learning to do and some personalities and and leadership styles that we're going to have to learn but I see us operating in a much higher level starting next year so thrilled about this opportunity and I also wanted to share that all of the uh employees here that the board is approving to hire whether it's custodian or kitchen or coach every employee goes through me before I recommend to the board I don't recommend anyone to you unless I've had a face to-face at least at minimum a face to-face virtual so I know who I'm recommending now if there and and I also want to say you're approving some quality custodians and and kitchen workers this month I'm really impressed with them now for example a sub we're going to I'm going to
039recommend to approve any sub that uh applies I don't meet with them I don't have the time to meet with every sub if they weren't a good fit for our district we just wouldn't have them back and then if there's an assistant coach or a volunteer coach that the head coach is recommending will'll allow them with your approval but I don't meet with them one one it would be the head coaches or any fulltime employees but they're responsible for their impal yeah okay that makes sense thank you for that time and effort that you put in we appreciate that um roll call Mrs deweer yes Mrs Walker yes Mr voto yes Mr McCarney yes Mr hulie yes Mo pass okay moving on to um um new business section 8.01 concerns the uh Jonathan aler High
040School course handbook um and recommended changes this would be a first reading for the high school course handbook um and we do have Mr Hayes in the room this is great timing uh I would like to give a shout out to Mr Hayes he's done a lot of work on this a a lot of work with the colleges for uh extra CCP opportunities for our students uh you'll see a dozen new classes but it doesn't mean that it's a guarantee we we still are going through the master fac not master facility master master scheduling process um and he needs to see student interest before you know we wouldn't have a class with only one or two students interested we wouldn't run a class that way but at least we have the opportunity and teachers are
041applying to the colleges with regards to um their credentials having their Ms in that uh area of expertise being approved by the college and then going through High School administration so Mr hay has done a nice job preparing and setting up a future opportunities for our students and then there's also the uh Elevate program that I've shared with the board over the last couple months you know Nicole shr gave a presentation last month about the higher standard the state is going to hold on us actually think Michael did a story on that last month but our graduation rate and how we're going to be held to a higher standard as far as that weighted portion uh this Elevate program which stands for I don't have it right in front of me uh we went back
042and forth on this quite a bit empowers Learners to explore Venture Advance train and Excel for careers is something that we we want to have in place for next year uh at the high school and um I guess better prepare our students for whatever it is college career Workforce or military Readiness Mr you want to jump in or add anything what I miss no nothing I'm I'm really excited about the more um CCP classes that we can offer our kids um and the opportunities that it provides them I tell Dr Miller and Carla like and it it happened last week again with another parent another parent came in told me that their kids graduating an entire year early from Miami because of the because of Jonathan Alder and and the and the classes that they
043took here um I also firmly believe that like our the kids being in the building and giving them more opportunity to take CCP here is better for our culture it's better for them to be with Hands-On with a student rather than taking a class online um that's another great option for them but if I have the choice between them being in here in the in the in the building and with our teachers compared to online I'm going to choose with with our teachers um so we we we created a Spanish class um I mean I don't want to talk too much but we created a Spanish class that's going to do um multiple things um a big reason that some of our kids don't get honors diplomas because they don't take a third year of
044Corin language um and um honors diplomas CCP all of that is now part of the college career Force college career Readiness Workforce score that we get so the more um the more honors diplomas that we get in the more CCP that we offer um it it it helps our school district the other thing too is it's more fiscally responsible too because your teachers are doing it it's the cheapest option for CCP the online courses are the most expensive um but Spanish it will um it will allow them to get that third year as well as um get that that that credit for college and then U Mrs Loren actually she applied and she can now teach um introduction to literature um here at the high school and so the way that that would work is
045I'll just give an example we have a junior we have Juniors who have taken comp one comp two they take those courses they can actually take um uh this introductional literature course that in the state of Ohio there's a human credit that they have to get and this this would allow them to CH uh cross that off for um Humanity so anybody going to a state school in in Ohio um really going to help them out and then there was just some changing in chemistry um since doc was here he had been doing this since basically CCP started um dual enrollment and he had been doing it for so long Clark State didn't make his change but and they've had some changes over do did it for like 25 years um they uh there was
046a high school chemistry prere and they didn't make us follow that so now we are going to offer 1150 1210 and 1220 here at the high school 1150 would be the all year course that students would take there would be no high school chemistry prerequisite but 1210 that that our kids have been currently taking it's more of an advanced course and so it's going to be it this doesn't make a lot of sense but it's an advanced course but it's going to be done in a semester because they've already had either high school chemistry or 1150 then they could technically move on the second semester to 1220 which is another Advanced chemistry course so anybody going into the medical field or um into chemistry could actually lead jonan aler with 14 hours of of chemistry
047under their belt so those are just some things and then we we've been working with teachers to take advantage of a grant that Mrs shck applied for where um a lot of them are going to take these courses so that they can they can teach college credit Plus in our building um so um but and then on the flip side of that the Elevate program and the internships um and uh pre-apprenticeship that is going to that fits a different segment of our population for some of those kids um and it's really going to provide um an opportunity for those kids as well so we're very excited about both of those um but like what with the internships the and the pre-apprenticeship what what ends up happening a lot of times is our kids they they
048met their requirements for graduation by the time they're senior so a lot of them would just take advantage of and and they'll leave but what this will do is it will allow them to get experience and gotten incredible feedback from families on that as well as like hey thanks for saving me thousands and thousands of dollars because by you sending him to this internship he found out this is not what he wants to do in life um and then other stories too of of hey this has been wonderful we love this they they now know and we're comfortable spending thousands of dollars in college because you provided this internship so we're really excited about that as well I have a question so I know that K12 changed a lot since I was in high school
049and I don't have any haven't had a junior or senior yet but when everybody talks about well we don't have a lot of Juniors and seniors in the building are they doing are they just doing their their bare minimum cours work and then they just basically go home for the day or do they have to do something else they have to have five five classes that's the the minimum um even as a senior the only exception to that would be someone and it has to go through approval by me and I always call them let Dr Miller Carla know if a kid has four CCP classes it could be more than what a lot of college students are taking it could be 16 to 20 hours that they're taking I will override that and say
050okay you don't have to have five classes you're taking a full College course load um so there's that and then um what was your other the other question like there was well it was just effectively if there's never any Juniors or seniors at school because they just they're not coming in they're they have early release and late arrival but that's not um they the only time that they don't have to take five classes is their senior year the second semester you there's a Ohio law that states that you only have to take the courses that you need to grad uate the second semester of your senior year but we have very few kids that that that do that um but because of that and some of them have to be academically El I mean athletically
051eligible providing these internships would be a better use of their time the internships and pre-apprenticeship than than possibly taking a class that they have no interest in that they're just trying to fill their schedule with because they play a sport they have to have five classes so Carter has to take take five classes even though he doesn't need any more classes because he's playing a sport so he can be eligible for that sport so that apprenticeship would serve in place of taking a class you really don't need you'd be working in being eligible as well for a schort or they could just graduate early and not play a sport their decision to stay here sometimes is really based on playing a sport well we might as well be serving them as much as we can
052even though they've met the requirements although I think it's going to get a little bit more difficult to meet all of the graduation requirements it it there's there was like a little you could you could technically meet with taking classes in eighth grade you could meet all the High School requirements before your senior year I I think that's going to become a little bit more difficult to do well that that was kind of what I was getting that that was where I was working toward and I don't this is probably not a conversation to have an open session when I haven't proposed it to anyone before but I'll just throw it out there do is there well I'm I'm just spitballing okay I'm just spitballing spit should we should we be increasing the requirements to
053graduate at Alder if we have students that are coming in late or leaving early and are playing Xbox are we doing them a disservice should we have an additional require should we have additional requirements and I'm not saying that I'm not saying that we should I'm just posing a question a lot of those kids that do that have online CCP courses as well right lot of the kids that leave early they have they have online courses that they take for CCP okay that being said the online courses I mean I think I'd be hard pressed to find anybody that thinks online is superior to in-person classes either from a teacher perspective or a student learning perspective so the idea that we are equipping our teachers right now to be teaching those classes in this building
054will take away from the early like my daughter took a online course last semester this semester she's in the building taking a CCP English course right so and it's the value that is obtained is so far superior than you know even the online some of the online classes are just watch this video take this test there's not even an actual date and time for the instruction to be happening right Mr mccardy the whole reason behind the Elevate program is to take that wasted some of the what you might consider wasted time and then give them opportunities to work and get experience and then all and use their time wisely rather than you know sitting around all day what some of them may so trying different career areas to determine whether they love it or hate
055it both of which are equally important so this is going to be compulsory what's that it's going to be compulsory what do you mean that they they're going to have to do that instead of no no no but we can talk about that that's as you're spitballing as we spitball that's that's what I'm saying like should we be telling seniors listen like coming to school for five like taking five periods a day isn't sufficient maybe you we either either you need to take more classes or you need to have some additional in these initial stages we have our amazing students that come to school don't necessarily need the teacher they know how to earn the credit they may know they're going to college or they know that they're going to work for the family or
056you have the students that know that tools is best for them we still have a large trunk of students that don't know and we want to give them experiences and opportunities to try these internships or pre-apprenticeship make sure that we're we're doing all we can to set them up for Success so I think it's still early I think it's still going to evolve over the years as we perfect it um but that's why I talked to the board about this person that's coordinating this districtwide will'll be working with tools working with the business advisory committee um working with the High School administration to provide and expose them to as many opportunities as we can and we have to grow that part of our program it won't happen overnight because we have to make those part
057parterships with businesses and with um we're going to start more internally and have some of the internships be here with our own staff here so as we grow I think can talk more about that I don't we wouldn't have enough opportunities yet to be able to say every senior has to to do this program because I don't it's going to take time to build it out there'll be very specific requirements that go along with each of those sorry I didn't I didn't necessarily mean this program I meant something you have to do something extra here's the thing too you're comparing what they're doing outside of the school to video games and a lot of the kids aren't just I I didn't mean to suggest that every senior that's not here is wasting time that's not
058what I meant that a lot of them also are doing other things like actually working and making money you know and earning so so it is we're working they're working on it they're doing right now what it sounds like is they're doing everything they can to encourage people to take advantage of opportunities without having to come out of pocket for those opportunities in high school where um they can figure out their own path and I think it's let's let's give a prime example the education course if a student wants to be an elementary teacher this coordinator can get them in the right Elementary with the right elementary teachers for that internship and they can they'll learn really quickly that they don't want to be a teacher or they love it they're passionate about they want
059to be a teacher that's an example that we're already talking about but it's not compulsory right right I mean should it be I mean if our interest is making sure kids are prepared for the future you know if they don't participate in the internship or college credit plus or whatever it is are we really benefiting them as best we can I I mean that's that's what bill was asking I know I mean I think I do think that there's some that considering this is is valuable considering it or some sort of you know maybe they maybe they provide what it is they're doing in lie of being in the classroom like we have some sort of consideration if they have a job and they're putting in so many hours a week or some other you
060don't want to put people you we're not saying you need they need to we're forcing kids to sit in a classroom just because I agree with some kids they they won't come right where they don't they don't that doesn't fit every kid right well it doesn't even necessar like I'm not my my kid shouldn't be taking a class just because she has to it's compulsory but she has to be doing something to further her career so our ultimate goal is to start this work Future Future Ready work K well it started down in the elementary to help kids have these experiences and exposure to multiple Pathways so that we can as they move into from Junior High into the high school have understand what their pathway is so that we can have programming for each
061and I'm not sitting here telling you that in next year we're going to have a plan for every individual student and Jonathan Alder but to have an understanding of Steve is interested in this this is his pathway so far this is what we need to make sure he is doing as he enters into his Junior and Senior year but and it's going to take time to build that out as a district so I I think we all want this same thing and it's just going to take a little time to figure out what exactly that looks like I what's baffling to me is that when I was in school I had to go to school for four years the entire school day and I don't know what changed there's the issue of rigor too you
062know I mean if you think about how tough it is I mean we all had homework every day I mean I remember I don't know that there's as much homework today as there used to be my ninth grader has more homework this year than she's had actually I'm exced hear in years uh at least it's more apparent because she's in she's doing the musical right now and so she comes home from the musical and does a lot of homework um which is new for her a new experience I mean rigor is good for kids sure it is good for kids and um because the world doesn't get easier and and so there there's value and making sure that our kids are as prepared as possible for that next phase of life but it's just uh
063I mean this is all kind of philosophical but I love the direction we're going I think it makes perfect sense I love the idea of having a pathway for each kid down the road I think there's absolutely a ton of Merit for that so maybe Clint Carla Jim as you think about as we're not obviously we're to make any decisions but as you think about into the next year and the year after maybe keep in mind you know how how do we make sure students are engaged for 7 hours a day like what is what does that look like it doesn't necessarily have to be in a seat a button a seat but let's make sure that while we have a captive audience we're making sure they're getting the most of their time here is
064that fair is that a I mean I think that's yeah that's what you've been doing isn't it yeah that's a girl yeah I mean unless the state were to change the graduation curriculum requirements and right like that's following I think that's is our exact goal and it might what is right for you might look different than what's right for so what your seven hours looks like might look different than Sonia's 7even hours because she needs something different to for her future what of that pathway as she wants so I think we all yeah mine is hard work all day every day and his is playing with his children wow which is also hard work all day every day Bill think about it as you know you you said that 7 hours it's not about the
065quantity it's about the quality sure we want to provide what every student deserves and it looks different for everyone I would say it sounds great on paper but I would hesitate to make it like this one size fits all like we we don't want to continue to force things just because we think they need seven hours a day of like quality whatever it looks like what we think it should but if it's something that is relevant to them and has value to it I think that's more important it's the value of it not just that it is there no no no I know I mean it's a matter of taking a Fluff class just cuz you have to and you're getting nothing out of it right sure so like instead of that so anyway basically
066all the stuff you guys are already doing you know Mr Hayes mentioned briefly that having qual credential teachers in our high school for CCP is financial benefit and just so the board is aware how that works is is free for our families to do CCP but we pay for it as a district so there's if the kids are taking a CCP course online or on a campus we're paying 166.173 per credit hour that's so because that's what it cost us for an average teacher salary no that's just the state determined basically as a way to pay the colleges for providing oh oh we are we're still paying that to the college yeah so what happens is the state deducts it from our foundation payments by monthly so um and just you know I try to
067download a whole spreadsheet but the states spreadsheet thing doesn't work but just an example we do have one course at Columbus State where we've had um let's see 37.7 for credit hours so at that ceiling 166.173 $46 deducted just for that one course if it was done by Mrs Len here at the high school we'll be saving $46,490 so good and she wouldn't have to do much more than what she's doing now is that right what's that it wouldn't she would it wouldn't be much it's not much more for the teacher to administer that course well they have that sure you know and that could you know but I'm just saying like that's that's something that if we it keeps the students here in the building it helps us save more our foundation money as
068well and we can you know as the teachers get credential they'll be moving columns and the stuff schedule and all that so but it's an it's already it's already built in so credential is just having your Masters in that program in the content in the content area of what you're so I can teach English courses but you're moving to that column anyway I'm already well I'm sorry somebody somebody that was getting qualified for that would be moving the column so they're already basically getting compensated we're just saving that money yeah it help pay for them moving yeah sure and we receive the grant um with the escco to be able to help pay for that credentialing so the district's not in covering that extent wow so so let me ask this then if if I
069do the internship say I want to be just say I want to work as an electrician you know so find this internship and I do it do I get a grade do I get a badge what what do I get that's an industry standard that recognizes my internship well it depend so it depends so if you're going through tolls that would be like they would run through the toll through their leite program and whatever credential that they they get whether if they pass the the test over there they get credential basically everybody gets a 12 point in tree credential to GR tolls so that's specific but if we had a kid here who didn't go to tolls and they came to us and said hey I didn't want to go to tolls but I want
070to do um an electrician apprentice apprenticeship or U let's say it's something that TOS doesn't off so it's based on the amount of hours that they they work um and then how many hours they work is how many credits we give them but as far as like um credentials like we don't like we could give credentials but we we're not there yet as far as so so like for our Tech internship that we've already been running in the summer through ja we had just a handful I think we had four or five kids we they did have the opportunity to take the credentialing are you aware of the tech inter internship I'm not no but that's great students coming in over the summer doing damage repair cleaning iPad real that was an internship I knew
071they did that I thought it was just and okay it's okay that was a paid internship but there was a credentialing test that Nicole gave them the opportunity to become also to get the industry credential to go along with it I don't know we can check I wish to call I I was just curious how it depends on the internship like said but we can offer if there's a credential that goes along with it we absolutely can offer for them to take that credentialing assessment to become credential in that area if there's if there's one that goes the internship and the pre-apprenticeship are two different things you get credential through the pre-apprenticeship The Internship is basically we're letting you go get experience and you get course you get depending on how many hour you work
072that's how many credits you get so it would satisfy five the five classes so if you're working over 150 if you work 150 hours or less well I can't remember off thought my head what the minimum is but of 150 hours you're getting a a credit um and then work over 150 you get two okay but to get an industry recognized credential correct me if I'm wrong has to be taught by yeah but that's an industry I'm just wondering if it's not let's say so Steve OT wants to do something that's not a toll is not I mean is there do I get a credential or a badge I mean how do I how do I share that get the experience you do get the experience and you get to put it on your resume
073there there are different credentials like there's leadership credentials there's all kinds of different credentials but the teacher has to some of them have to be you have to be certified to teach those things like and take some of the teachers have to take classes to be able to do that but we could continue exploring the opportunity of credentialing as we go and keep building the options it's very complicated there's some that are stackable I mean it's yeah it's quite one different different districts have different Strate like Hillyard and Dublin do a lot of credentialing in house right but the smaller schools rely on tolls to do most of their credential okay for their students okay okay sounds good sorry thanks for the discussion I'm glad you're here Mr next time spinall sorry okay um moving
074on to section 8.02 can I get a motion to declare Transportation impractical and offer payment in Li of transportation for the 2024 25 school year uh for the students listed below some of second any discussion okay roll call Mrs D Wy yes Mr hul yes Mr McCartney yes Mr V yes Mrs Walker yes passes okay the uh next regular board meeting is scheduled for Tuesday April 8th at um Monroe Elementary School okay at 5:00 P p.m and um can I get a motion to adjourn uh today's seconder yes Mr hulie yes Mr McCartney yes Mr V yes Mr Walker yes