001to realize good evening and welcome to this evening's work session I appreciate everybody making the effort to get here wow it's going to be informal as you know in a work session and there are no wrong answers so to share what's ever on your mind yep we'll go ahead and start here you have in front of you just a short little agenda as far as looking at some different things so I'll have Dr go ahead and start with the future bonding after 2023 to kind of look at that and then of course the next item is talking about Sharp Creek so so um obviously work in the process of taking out a bond for 2023 Jim Elizondo came and talked that I think our last board meeting and on the back side that kind of
002outlays what that bond process debt rate is going to look and you can see where the first year it's capped out at 38 cents for Debt Service off of our existing debt rate which brings us to a total tax rate of that 1.10 and then it drops off which then gives us some flexibility and opportunity to build on to that over a period of time and we would continue to do some of these types of bonding issues that would lower after the first or second year to create some gaps to fill in for any future projects that we may need so basically what this is establishing here is a a ceiling that we can then build off of over a period of time to do some future projects and obviously our biggest project to take
003a look at would be I like Mr kiefaber said so we'll start looking at Sharp Creek and we do know that the last last estimate that we had we did have Martin covilma do some of those pulmonary estimates as far as all of the work to Sharp creases which that includes the Royal the HVAC system one Windows um basically gives you everything to Sharp screws because we know that that hasn't been um there hasn't been a lot of updates to Sharp Creek and that's actually our our newer building 1980 and so we looked at some of those costs and said okay what are some other options to that and so of course one option is to renovate all of Sharp Creek a little more information but going beyond that then one thing that we have
004to consider too when we look at um that possibility of just renovating we also have to look at with so many things that would happen and where do we put the students during that time so that's a that's just something to consider so there are other um considerations too add on to existing buildings in other words be more like the South schools of course we have one Elementary there pre-k through five and then of course um they have grade 6 through 12 at Southwest Junior Senior High School and so other possibilities are what would it look like to add on to other schools the other only other schools that we have north of course will be Northfield or Metro North to be able to to have those students go into those buildings the other thing
005to consider we have had I believe you know we're going to do a little bit more work and more discussion but with the sixth grade going to south of high school it seems like that's been a good transition I think there might be a few changes for next year but overall that's been a good transition some good things that can happen uh with some various things and so some considerations to look at in the future too as far as moving sixth grade to Northfield that's something that would be not next year but it would be down down the line but those are some things to consider too when we talk about whether we add on to an existing building or if we we renovate so really our next steps are number four looking at you
006know what the board would desire as far as looking at those options what the scope of work would be would it be a simple schematic design also looking at cost estimates to do some of that we have been in some discussion with the white hand uh ybn can help with that along with Barton Coville typically when we get with Architects they give us a rough estimate and you know that's pretty rough sometimes although the last testimon we got with the Southwood gym floor was really really close but sometimes you know things change so much now with the environment of construction and so it's it would be our recommendation that we would have someone else give a little better of a better estimate so you would know exactly what that is so when we're looking at
007body in the future for 2024 and really we're looking at backwards you know we're looking at we would like to get this started because a lot of situations we know that Mr Hall is here today and he's done a great job keeping things going at uh at Shark Creek but there are some things that need to be done and so we have to make that decision so the ultimate goal would be that we would start whatever project it that is that you decide on and we would recommend that we would start really you know the summer of 2024 which is complete 25 then Am I Wrong the 20 the 25-26 school year yeah yes I would almost consider I mean I to be on the safe side I would say probably 18 months so that
008would be close but that's not enough start to finish yeah I don't know that answer that'd be something we have to get more into once we get the idea of what the scope of work is so the bonding to go on 2024 tax would have to be when would that have to go into effect so this current bonding 2023 is what will go on the 2024. the borrowing for this yes so if we borrow in 2024 that would not take effect until 20 and if you see on that tax rate that's where we have that drop off they are starting in 2025 where we can build back up on that better so what date would that have to be we'd have to take money out before we play far forward to get it on 2025
009anytime tomorrow yes but if we want to start in the summer we're going to have the money by then so you're looking spring of 2024 to actually do the borrowing late spring and really part of the reason to have the meeting now on April 10th is to hopefully make that decision of which direction that we're going as soon as possible so we can start all this process because it's going to be a bigger process than what we're doing right now obviously with the scope of work we're doing in the buildings now that will be a bigger show whether that's adding on to other existing buildings for for those third through fifth grade students or there are three sixth grade students or to renovate um strong likelihood in sixth graders going Northfield yeah right um and
010yeah I don't think yeah that would be something we wouldn't do until the 20th school year and we would do the same thing as what we did with Southwood I mean we'd bring parents in I'll let them know get what to get with the um the teachers and staff and let them know about the situation um and then have those discussions it would be I believe a lot more efficient now because we've already done it so we know what it looks like and we know it's worked and maybe things that we would uh would change a little bit and so that makes it I think quite a bit better have talked about room right now you know we can make it work in the rooms so if you have to be some changes obviously but
011you know they can make that work too so I've already talked to principal Snyder about that a little bit but here again that's going to be down the road a little bit more but the decision of course that decision plays in the same decision of what we do uh whether we renovate or whether we add on to other buildings because of the number of classrooms that we need because if sixth grade goes on to to Northfield then of course we won't have to worry about those classrooms so that's definitely something that we would want to and really I guess I would go ahead and you can't vote on that now obviously but strongly recommend that that's what we would do for better or right part of it is because this is April and um to
012go through the whole process we started that back in October November of the Year prior so we need a lot more time for the discussion and just to make sure that we would make sure everything works because there are a few typical differences with the schools and so not a lot but they're obviously they're building that's not a difference but the difference is with with who teaches how that works and specials and all those different things because there's a lot to consider with that because we involved everybody last time because we knew it would be something different and really we didn't have a lot of people with a lot of questions I think part of it too is because we try to have a lot of those questions answered before they came to us to
013make sure that that also we don't always know all those answers until we have more people ask different questions that we didn't think about so so yes we would not be able to do it next year so then we can we can see possibilities in the sixth grade in Northfield what's the possibility of increasing little nights a little Norse and even more it are the numbers there in the matter um like the space of Metro North then I think are you up against it I'm not sure Mark we're not up against it um at South that I would say to expand they are um right now our registration for next year is adding the three section at South but then maintaining our five sections of Metro North but would you have room to add more
014sections correctly no do you see any need for that or a possibility we are holding settings about the same numbers as last actually more than last year than this current year for next year but you don't have any waiting list we are just right now Starving in our waiting list so and sometimes there's changes in the summer but probably not that many so good question though good question because you know if you're doing something differently would you add on and if you add it on for example to Metro north for the three through fifth grade would you add any more classrooms for preschool is what you're really thinking a sixth grade there so you can have the possibility to do extra although the Fashions will look quite a bit different we're doing preschool I mean
015the classrooms and they would be more expensive obviously for preschool when you have bathroom restrooms yeah that would be nice unless we'd ever want to go to do you know three-year-olds so Child Care is you laughing about that yeah um okay all right we'll go a little bit six weeks all right foreign as far as a cost estimate to be able to put this together so you can see it and we want to do that as soon as possible I mean that's our recommendation to go ahead and move forward at least finding out you know some of those because you know we have some cost of some of this but you know it is a couple years ago and probably everything's outdated if you want for six months ago too so most years two years
016wouldn't have been that much difference you'll probably be able to just do a little bit of inflation and figure it out but what is inflation now I know what inflation is but I mean you know what is it because it changes it seems like all the time so and and you know another thing that we can think about too is I know um when we visited with shark Creek you know obviously there are some you know people would look at concerns about different of these different options and I think we just need to look at all the options you guys have you had discussion with them um well we've talked about it but we just haven't I mean they knew about the work session that's why they're here but um well I'll put it out
017there educationally then what's your opinion about having proximity at the Northfield High School versus having a Metro North as far as is a benefit of having Littles all the way through fifth grade all the Metro North versus doing something where shark for your kids now and having still to split is there good bad and that's a part of this part of this would need to be look at some of those things because you got to factor in gym space for your PE activities and you're forwarding your cafeteria I think more just purely their age and the educational three-year-olds to 11. and obviously that's what it used I mean those buildings were built Sharp Creek North Hills at Sharp Creek Metro North was fountain in Southwood originally were all for K kindergarten through sixth grade so
018it's not any difference as far as the age range now I'm being Pre-K obviously I guess one more year because we have three girls too um yeah so along as long as if you put a wing on the Northfield let's say and tie into those facilities but again it's all contained in a wing so to speak is there a downside of that versus having everything just to be very open I think what we've heard before when we were talking about when we were looking at the referendum and building a new high school you know there were those concerns about pre-k through eighth grade for example and so I think it would be more of a a concern of parents Community possibility of even though they would be separated just like we did with the sixth
019grade itself development or Southwest Elementary to go to the Junior Senior High even though they would be separated even though there's schools out there that are pre-k through 12. I think there still are concerns about okay they're going to be with the high school and I'm not saying the education that changes anything but I think that's more of a public relations I mean that's one of those things that might be one of those things that could be a somewhat in that like even you know as much as we would want to say that they'd be separated all those things it's still those students would be in a building um with older students that would be I believe probably the biggest downside and it doesn't necessarily happen to me but I think it would be through
020fifth grade at Metro North I mean there should not be anything because that's what the building used to be I mean I know it's not Pre-K three-year-olds but it was K through six when it started just like Sharp Creek so and if you move sixth grade out there are some you know just like right now sixth grade for Southwood was a great for some different things for some of the Fine Arts and things like that so they actually have their own regular room now Norfolk is a little bit different because right now Shark Creek is right there so they can just walk across the parking lot but that wasn't true for Southwest Elementary so they did not do that so there are advantages that way too to have a sixth grade with them they must
021have an opinions I just I vote you know with Logistics and transportation all those type of things that's why I've always kind of leaned towards something staying there at Northfield instead of moving three grades back you know because you're already everything else always happens at the Northfield and so it just seems like there's a lot of just moving back and forth so but you know it's one of those things what's what's best what's best for the teachers this is more as your advantage to having older kids in with a little bit I think they're I think we could Pro and bond this way okay like they're definitely some advantages having older kids they serve as Role Models they can assist with I don't want to say with Transportation you know like bus buddies and things
022um endurance we can make little cons to go with that as well so this older kids fifth graders to read to the schools there's a lot of things you can do academically that's some of the things that we talked about too when we talked about the referendum when we were in that pre-k through eighth grade how that could have been really good too and I think people understood that and looking at other options of what other schools do too so but you're right I mean it's you have to wait both both situations understand the situation about that but also under you know as far as having them all right there but on the other situation what is that public perception of that because that certainly was one of the big things that we heard about
023when we were looking at the representation academically we put sixth grade a lot with seventh and eighth grade as far as a lot of our trainings a lot of curriculum resources and materials the flip side of that right the older the being the younger kids with the older kids has its perks too that's right because that's why I was wondering you know is there more opportunities with the fourth graders being in the same area of the sixth grade or the fifth you know what I'm saying is can they do we move up kids academically because they're because if not you put them with the you know K-5 well there's no you know fifth graders have no way to move up or can't do anything that's what I is your way you know are we gonna
024pull some of those kids back because we're not able to have those classes there I would say we need to do some some research in that conversation versus with the strikes where they do have this different configurations that are pre-k through five pre-k through the set more of a middle school works six seven eight Wabash is five through eight is it you know oh there's all the different configurations out there I mean there are schools that have only kindergarten too there's some schools have 600 kindergartners in this class I was like that's was we look at how it is now but we need to say how would we want to change 15 years from now and try looking at that that's a real difficult part and you can study what's around now but how do
025you project what you would like it what it needs to be adaptive I guess and just change it when the time comes we try to do that we try to project that next 60 years but I'm gonna work I always come back look he added on to Metro board you'd add another gym yeah you have to would that be completely separate from the other one or I mean deadly things to look at down around that would be part of there so yeah and part of that too is yeah yeah I don't think I think a Jim's in the picture no matter what facility yeah correct I mean it's Sharp Creek Metro Oregon Union to one of those three spots just because of the gyms that we have monkeys so just like Mrs Moore said you
026know pros and cons on each way but I think too some of it will come down to okay what's the study look like as far as you know all three of those different options and so how this is where I come back because just because of the gym because you know you've got we've talked about that so this is why I lean towards doing something at Northfield is because Southwind we're going to have to do something right in the gym space so if you have a gym you know a gym to Northfield were you going to do the same exact thing there and it's going to affect them the same way because of their Elementary situation is the same thing so in my eyes by pushing everything to that spot it kind of Keeps Us
027kind of the same when it comes from the functionality of you know the gym spaces and that kind of stuff but right right I mean South only has three gyms right and so you would still have three yeah it would be the same if what I'm saying is if you eliminated we added classrooms to Northfield yeah then it would be the be the same rate yeah but yes I think in the future I mean those are some things to talk about um right now though yeah so I'm just saying that the gym space is I guess for me thinking about it it's it's needed more at the high school at both high schools because of schedules for practices and all that kind of stuff rather than at the elementary because just in these cases you
028have kids coming from Shark Creek or even sometimes from Northfield going Metro you know the practice so we're bouncing around well it's really been an issue in my opinion down on the south south of Elementary gyms always been negative well it's basically the same as Metro yeah I mean it's the same size you know but in an ideal situation that would be improved it was is a disaster I've been through it it's but it's just one of those things that's why I'm in my eyes looking at it because you know you have to do it somewhere at the gym no matter which space well that's what I want to encourage us and I was just put ideas out there too I mean like for example I don't know what the I said the parking lots
029of both of those schools Saturday I guess like getting everything better yeah Frozen so The Vocational the actual increased program how do you realize would you agree in town yeah for sure so I'm not saying that we build there but in my Minds I sat there Scott and looked at the parking lots looked at everything that that would be a possibility of putting enough square footage here by removing that and putting the field houses there small field of houses to I mean if anybody's gonna have sports lately you know the necessity of something like that I'm not saying that we make all of our decisions around Sports either yeah I mean you still would have to have the classrooms for AG for some of those Tech head stuffs but you could actually have the regular
030classroom you know I would like this and you know I'm just present now I guess I would like to see the agriculture uh element really just done super well at the vocational school okay I mean things have changed if things have changed we'll put the bed on the shoulders that's nice exactly because as a sophomore Junior and senior you'd like to you know work your way through it especially when you consider the FFA portion of it yeah because Vocational School can't have that exactly because in all these schools yeah they'd have to be a separate chapter I haven't thought about that they don't make allowances The Vocational Equity chapter we work really hard to try to develop a community and so by not having somebody in the building it robs that Community right and so
031you hear about Heartland but you don't see it as a seventh or eighth grader you don't get to see that teacher and so that's why we work really hard for our AG teachers and our all of us to have sorry Christina to have to have Junior High classes right so I can meet those kids you develop the relationship and then you cultivate that stuff and it's kind of so for sure Heartland does have a lot of great offerings but that is definitely a con to taking that there because you lose kind of the culture of the community of that and mark the point of my bringing this up is just that settings that space yes as you look down the road well I'll tell you we uh we just had a Vex robotics meeting with
03217 teams there's a real hope that in a if you're planning futuristic that'll be a great spot for those robotics teams those fields and stuff are huge both schools at the high school they can't fit them in the rooms we can't get them enough field space to do that and so um if we're dreaming that becomes an academic High School part where we are using that for engineering and it wouldn't necessarily need that whole space for sure but that's a pretty big footprint and Mr North you bought anything too anyway because the way the cafeteria this stuff works to get here is that recess and stuff yeah well or or a cafeteria yeah one way or the other one or the other that's why that's why I'm like okay okay you got the gym if
033it's left alone it was kind of match what we have in South Woods right you just need a cafeteria Southland does too really it's kind of one and all but it's just give me the elementary yeah yeah you're feeding little kids it's chaos yeah and I know maybe down the road but obviously we will need to address our athletic facilities at some point as well so when you talk about adding gym space on there's the possibility of going out further East on the East gym into the parking lot to add on gym space there yeah it's full court this way we're here or just add add extend it out and add another gym and so you can have more cores that a field house with and do that like he's talking well then I mean
034your field house would be a totally separate entity where the gyms would all be together if they were already attached to the Eastern part of my thought was just that square foot that that area is already sick yeah there was some parking space everywhere was that you could tie into locker room still I mean it is on that Corner that end of the area of the building I guess do a walk right between the two well again that's why it's here so that's why I you know in my eyes that's why I look at you know building classrooms I think you know just because it's easier and I think it would be better anything that would add just because those classrooms would be better utilized if it's at Shark Creek if we just renovate that
035or tear down sort of crazy we have the classrooms at Northfield yeah I know it's I think it's between the academics because of having able to move them up if you need to and then with Athletics you know third grade is where we start with Athletics actually um that's usually where we start is third grade school standpoint we only do fifth grade well I'm just saying I know that their volleyball and basketball those schools third fourth third and fourth is usually where the travel so that kind of stuff starts when we looked at renovation then went to Sugar Creek and now we'll put you on the record Steve your feelings on that are not real strong in that direction really correct there's a lot there to do yeah of needing to deal with and the
036tough part will be where do you put the students um during all that renovation because it's going to take a lot longer than just a few minutes in the summertime so so that's a consideration well when you we're briefly talking timeline here earlier and you're talking started summer of 2024 we can't have a long study no we're talking about neurons that have to be done so he got into the fall period to get business out to get started right and we were in and we did ask um so I think which meeting we have with them you know how if we work backwards if it would work and so with our timing that what we've been talking about and they said probably I mean we don't know for sure but we would have to make
037that decision as part of the length of the study will determine I mean be what information you want so if you want a simple design look that's going to take a little bit longer than just giving you a scope of work and saying okay we're going to add this many classrooms here or a gym here versus a drawing a simple schematic drawing that's going to take them time to lay that out Chris she has to take the chase too many direct different directions if you'd rather say okay as a boarding as a as a community we say this is the way we want to go and then go that way rather than but at the same time and be interesting oh I agree I feel like we need I for me personally that's what I
038would prefer to know is just kind of what an idea of the cost would be for those options um so I guess my question would be to Steve if you were making the decision you know the bill is better than we do which direction I go I wouldn't put the money for sure but uh I'm kind of torn between whether that on norfield I think the AG area is not being utilized I mean it's a big space out there where heating it or coolant and it's not being utilized for go in the shop some of those shop areas because nobody's in a lot of equipment's in there not being used so I'm alone Kevin about moving everything down an apartment would be a great and the most ahead of them um your building too you
039know more space there yeah that's the next conversation yeah I mean it's pulled up what coming acres is Northfield on Steve do you know stop your head see how I got it right here Northfield is on 37 Acres and that's pretty much what southbourne is too Southport high school is on 36.7 Metro North is on 24 Acres shark Creek's on 10. five and then Southwest on 22 Acres or employee observation strategy was I was thankful for the people that sat here before us that had the vision to get as much ground as they did yeah I mean we have something to work with both of those sites foreign so our recommendation would be to go ahead and start talking with um Bart Co and why again just to start putting out some you know some
040drawings some different things and US starting to look at what it would look like at Northfield what it looked like at Metro North what it looked like even at Shark Creek yeah just to know how much you know are we going to be okay with you know what lunch is are we going to be okay with all the specials so yeah go ahead no I was just like saying I mean like yeah I guess the schedule out if you put the third through fifth there can we generalize or this our existing space or do we have to add a cafeteria you know and obvious you know are we going to put it are we going to have a principle for that area you know we have to have office space you have to have you
041know another Insurance you know I that's kind of stuff that would be nice to kind of that's why we need to have these people be able to be able to help us with that so strong I mean basically I envisioned I think if that building needs to be if it needs to be attached or or if it does you know I don't know you know if we can't support all of those extra three grades you know through the cafeteria through the gym through the bands require you know through those extras you know rooms and specials then you know it doesn't even need to be attached really it just needs to be standing alone a standalone building you're on Metro North or Northfield when you're talking about it's nice to have common food service it would
042and I and I would think that just because of what it used to handle you know when we were there versus what it's handling now it should be able to handle that but I mean you got the help that sort of that Sharp Creek that you can just move over to support that staff so the only issue might run into is scheduling because the high school kind of already has a schedule and so it might be hard to find you might have to have an extra lunch schedule or something like that which just that's just a timing thing yeah in all those schedules I mean all the schedules with all the specials the question and the interest if that were to happen or not there would be a totally separate entrance in my mind and
043separate small offices and everything it would just be that's what I would think I mean yeah you could link it to the building but the main functionality is by itself but you're still there you know of course some of those other services the advantage that why dance have to offers are more of a refined number yes okay and they'll be able to break down a lot more of those costs they're the specifics versus just saying okay like a lot of times we just get okay these this is how much these soft costs are but they don't tell you necessarily what each of those soft costs are that's the advantage have you you have talked to them and they've worked with barbacoa before we talk about this process with the CMC we talked a little bit
044about it when we were going through the referendum so why again it has the same thing so isn't that there's some people in our school district that work with equipment Hunter was a hunter and Barb there is one that you think I don't know that they've worked there anymore I think they both were okay that's that same spot because well Gary Leonard goes around to those he works for them and he goes to the high schools on recruits for that company but we would have to do it or if like if this proceeded then we would do an RFP for a CMC um process we would have to help with the construction so well what's Our obligation to why dance so if we start involving them then it's part of the facility cost oh I
045don't have a problem with Walgreens at all yeah I know it's just that's that's how embarco can help us with the RFP process too over there yeah what was the renovation figure that we had used at one time for Shark Creek 16 minutes per classroom because that principal office has a yeah thank you results Christian I'm just taking it all out and trying to way between the three or the yeah military Shark Creek and Northville um but I said you know I'll be curious you're gonna have demolition of that building Cults too and all I mean isn't there really you can't demo yeah but would you have to if you needed a space oh yeah if you needed the space would you have to have the Warriors right yeah it's too close especially if you
046got two Engineers there's rules but what I'm saying is you can eat it for parking space yeah intentionally yeah no no I I think oops you know I just think that relate to you that makes sense with what you guys are thinking we need to add it and if you got that much in that boat and Steve doesn't like it record we went through it and there's definitely problems there and those problems can be rectified it's just yeah again it's about costs too I'd like to sit like you're talking I want to see the calls I mean I think we've got to look at all three angles and then International I mean because I I guess if you're starting new classroom space I don't think I don't know it's going to be different from one
047space to the other oh right I mean because again I don't see Metro's cafeteria handling it handling that those kids as easy as Norfolk would you know so what I'm saying is I think that it doesn't matter I think if they give it a semestinal class classroom space the dollar amount it's going to be it's going to be compared up there or if they put it here it kind of depends on your main entrances and things like that too like if you have separate if you separate some of those things out that obviously going to add some costs compared to Metro north where I have some places where you could add on pretty easily and still have the same interests way so let me talk about parking I mean you're looking better over ordering almost
048important and stuff yeah I mean you're not going to force all the all the through that one maybe with that burden I mean drop off we have to well we have to yeah we have to put that other parts am I say anything like that so um it used to be like that though so I mean it's not it wouldn't be that much different necessarily that'd be really a number of students would be probably the same because when we were talking about three four-year-olds right those sections aren't as large and so it would still be like a k-6 building compared to pre-k there's a Pre-K in the that would be more like one class not quite but when did this change when the parents drop off kids everybody was the best yeah [Music] I just
049weren't curious when when that or why it changed maybe that's why we're still here we were high scores [Music] as a bus driver and I'd seen him open up the back back door rip a kit out throw him in the side ditch and say you stay here your parents will be captured and I'm like everybody else the rest of it one time it only took one time because the rest of the year because it wasn't a feat okay [Music] [Applause] oh yeah we need lots before I mean so do we need to give it any specific answers or wait for numbers we just kind of need to know what your thoughts were about like [Music] we can go ahead and proceed s you've got enough information I think so yeah and you know we'll just
050try to see if they can expedite as soon as possible so we can get some of those answers because you're going to have to think about a lot of different things before you make a decision because once we make a decision then remove with it and it's fine when when will we know about the uh expenditures whether we're doing the tennis courts absolutely sure so he is I bring that up Chris is Barton Cove has talked about moving those of course so Saturday you know I'm wondering why is that space there the tennis court was never built next to the baseball field in Northfield I wasn't removing the tennis courts at the time but I'm wondering I'm assuming just to stay away from foul Bubbles and stuff like that I don't know I just wondered
051if that was why they thought and they were pricing all that they were pricing that thank you I think we told them and it wasn't just to keep it where it was they're going to do some borings at some other spots but we said mostly it's going to be at the same area um would that impact the Northfield site in here I'm just making sure we're thinking all the different directions thank you so it's nice in the sense of practice there's soccer goals used to be privilege yeah I just wanted to thank you so they were saying here um originally they're getting they're working on getting the Southwood Elementary Roofing job out as soon as possible as well as the stefest job at both high schools likely mid-april Metro North tiller out to Bid mid-april
052And Tennis Courts helped a bit in July and locker rooms in October and uh maybe a little bit earlier on locker rooms that was the one we asked them to kind of expedite so that we can get some costs because because November if we want to get it on the 2023 or 2024 love you so there's my earlier questions anyway so when do you first see that started um uh if it goes out to bid in October September October like I mean usually so I would imagine I don't know how long it would take but imagine if they got started in November or December they'd have it done by the end of the summer possibly for the next school year well does that disrupt the winter sports a lot regardless it's going to hit the
053winter sports I would assume you know at some capacity I just didn't know if you started like right after winter sports and then you got all the way until this football obviously I don't know if you have volleyball then too and yeah I mean we'll run into the start of the winners just seems like those areas are used less yeah in the spring and the fall than the winter everybody it's I don't know how much it will affect the gym areas but the whole definitely in the locker rooms because a lot of that they can be working inside the locker room which is going to impact your school day anyway the one thing we have to consider well obviously though that they wouldn't do them all at one time so they do them in probably
054sections yeah push out preliminary drama so if you get feedback from the ads and the principles on them the locker rooms yeah and get to that point and that would probably happen before we put them out today yeah that's because we would like the their ability to refine them and change things anything else what you guys go get those planners going here this week are we good for this I got stuck today you guys