001calls me stand along. America to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All members are here. Dr. Right. Executive session litigation personnel matters and student matters. Executive session. Can I have somebody approve the agenda? Johnson moves. Johnson says move and second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> Oppose. >> Of the public have anybody? >> Yes. provides an opportunity to hear from the public. During this section of the meeting, any district resident or taxpayer may address the board on matters of concern, official action or deliberation which are or made before the board. The purpose of this section of the meeting is to be heard and as such the board will not engage in a dialogue, but will listen to your concern to follow up directly or
002to assign administrative personnel as appropriate. Please begin your public comment by stating your full name. Each member of the public may speak for a maximum of three minutes. At the end of three minutes, your time will expire. No participant may speak more than once on the same topic, unless all others wish to speak on that topic have been heard and only with permission from the presiding office. Any comments to the board must be directed to the board president and not individual board members or administrators. Concerns related to public specific buildings should first be addressed at the school building level and follow the chain of command before coming to the board. Any comment that are considered disruptive, obscene, abuses, slanders, or defamatory will either be interrupted or terminated. No complaint may be made against specific employees,
003committee members or board members. Private information related to any student is prohibited. >> Um, speak your name. >> Cheryl Hawkins. Um, I just see it's not on the agenda, but my issue is this uh bus school bus deal. um and where we are in finding resolution to the mess that's going on. My grandson gets off the bus about 5 5:15 every day and that's not right and I just want to know what going on with that. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. We're happy to to address >> to address. So, we've been communicating regularly with our with our parents. I'm not sure if you received today's message at all. So, we've been letting them know that we are still working with the bus company to uh recruit additional drivers. That's one of the reasons why the
004students are arriving late at night. >> Okay. Because that 5:00 is not >> it's not >> Thomas Holtzman >> and there's only two kids that um are at his bus stop and it's about to get cold and dark >> and we agreed. So, we are working with the bus company to get trapped. >> Okay. Thanks. You're welcome. Thank you. Hey guys, who's the person? >> Justin, Robin, Carl, you guys want to speak now or Hi, I'm Carl Hoffman, Susan Township Baseball Association treasurer um for over 12 years now and um we had a meeting on August 22nd uh with a a committee discussing Kaufman Field and uh we did respond with an email where we uh gave information about our utilities um information about our insurance coverage confirming that we do have the 1,000 or
005$1 million threshold with a $3 million aggregate and um we also um uh uh had a couple edits we sent in for the lease agreement that and I don't know if you want to discuss that now and Justin's here to mention something else but Justin Rob we we were uh requested to provide a a possible start date on that meeting on the 22nd of August about the summer or the 2027 storm water project happening behind the middle school at Kaufmanfield and uh it was discussed uh by our members at our board STBA and uh June 15th um would be a ideal date if possible uh in 2027 because that would be the end of the spring spring season um and that's the quietest time of the year for us would be uh June 15th to
006get an early start on it. Okay. >> If possible. >> No. >> Okay. >> And as far as the edits, we're still working with the issue at this point. Tonight, we're not voting. We're simply just discussing and then we'll approve at the next meeting. >> We have a new board taking over tonight as we speak uh for STBA. So, that's that'll the timing will be perfect. You guys will be wrapping it up at that point and then we can have the new board sign and we can all agree on it. We just wanted to thank you as well for um finally getting something on paper so that we don't all have to guess and do the handshake agreement thing. So, thank you. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you for putting on. >> All right.
007Take care. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, if you don't need us anymore tonight, we're going to leave. We have our own board meeting to go to. >> Enjoy your meeting. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. >> Pretty >> deli. >> Fix it. a fixer part of the organization coming around the last 16 years. I know >> I was going to say it's been a long time. It's been a long time working with you, Mr. >> But uh yeah, I'm Brad. >> Uh again, I'm Brad Reik with PFM. Lelli from Raymond James is here with us. We're here to talk about the next piece of financing in here for the need for deer path um project. So that's where we're here to talk a little bit about. It's been a pleasure working with
008Dr. Willis and Mrs. Cachuli. It's a pleasure working with them. So, thank you very much. What we have a handout that's on the screen up there. That's the first page. What we like to always remind the board about is what you have currently outstanding for your debt service. If you can look, you have four issues outstanding, including the vote. So, really three of your own. And we just did uh a $15 million or so financing last year. That's the far right column. But right now you can see what your payments are going into this next financing for your existing indebtedness. The other thing we like to do and that is keep an eye on the there's a line in the bottom box in the middle that says call date. We keep an eye on that
009to see when we get to those dates or anytime thereafter if there's an opportunity to refinance the bonds and reduce the payments. Right now, there's really no refinancing opportunities, but that's Lou and Mai's job to keep in touch with the administration and eventually the board if any of those opportunities come up. The next slide is simply what we do put on is what we call the net debt service slide. the these payments in some columns might be slightly lower, not a lot but slightly lower because back when the bonds were originally issued um some of them I think it's just the CTC or the Votech project there was some reimbursement received from Plancon obviously as we all know that that's in moratorum so all the numbers we have been running have not assumed any plan
010reimbursement but that's why the numbers just in that uh column number two or column number eight excuse me are slightly lower than the the page just before it. So just to give you an idea, the next slide is an estimate of what we think the payments might be for this next financing. Okay, so we have we're considering uh utilizing the wraparound structure that is when some of the bigger payments come after some of your other debt is paid off. So we call wraparound. It's the the the point of that and the goal of that is to keep the budget impact as low as possible. So really time some of the bigger payments after some of your other existing debt goes away. So that's why if you look at the far right column, you might see
011the payments for the first eight or nine or eight years or so a little bit lower and then they get bigger towards the back again freeing up milligets in place for other bonds to go towards this one. So that would be what we anticipate or think this looks like. We do understand that if you look at the far right column, the annual debt service, what you have, what needs to come into place over the next couple years is in the budget. So that's good to know. So with that, I'll briefly turn it over to Lou. He'll talk a little bit about the market and the timing. >> Thanks, Brad. And while we were just looking at this schedule and while it's still up there, probably just a reminder for everyone, um, we're planning to keep
012this issue at $15 million or less. It's the same recommendation that we made to you last year. And the reason for that is that the tax laws that govern these types of borrowings say that if you issue no more than $15 million in a calendar year, issue is considered a small issue for school districts all across the country. And under that designation, it means that any interest earnings, so when we get this money, we work to invest it for you until you spend it. any interest earnings that you generate over a three-year period, you can keep all of them. So, you might remember when we were here really promoting the $15 million borrowing as early as possible that last time, it was because short-term interest rates were so high. Fed had raised interest rates to
013fight inflation. Well, that was good for investing. You could invest that money at 5%. interest rates have come down a little bit, but still it makes sense to keep this borrowing at 15 million or less. So, we just wanted to emphasize that we're really just repeating the recommendation from 2024 when you borrowed 15 million. And obviously working with the administration talking about your projects, how much you're going to need for these projects over the next couple of years, it made sense just to limit this to 15 right now. it should cover you for the next couple of years for what your plans are. And that way we have the benefit of being able to keep all of the interest that you'll be able to earn on this money before you spend it. So just wanted
014to emphasize that for you. On page five, Brad mentioned just a quick market update. And while I was just talking a little bit about where interest rates were a year ago, uh, when we did that borrowing, this gives you an update on the far right side where that line's moving around of where interest rates are in the municipal bond market right now. And just want to emphasize because you hear a lot on the news that well maybe the housing market isn't so good because mortgage rates are still close to 7%. which is true, but the in the interest rates that you borrow at in the municipal bond market are totally different from those mortgage rates. Your interest rate today would probably if we went out and did this as a fixed rate borrowing would probably
015be something more like 4 and a quarter or 435. So your borrowing, your cost of funds is going to be much less than what you hear about on the news with mortgages. And it's all driven from this index that we price bonds off of. And I wanted to point out that just on Friday, you might have heard that there was a really weak jobs report. Not a lot of jobs were generated last month, showing the economy is slowing. Well, for the interest rate market, that means things are getting slower. That means inflation probably is coming down. So interest rates dropped quite a bit on Friday and we saw rates again lower today. So, we've seen a pretty significant move just in the last two days. And of course, next week the Federal Reserve is meeting
016and based on that week jobs report, it seems like they're very likely going to lower interest rates probably by a quarter of a percent next week. So, when we think about our timing, which I'll get to in just a second here, it seems to be that as we prepare, which was our message to the administration over the last couple months was, let's get prepared. we know you need this money. We have a clean slate. We haven't issued anything in 2025. So, we should try and take advantage of that allocation that we get every year on the small issuer that if interest rates do continue to go lower and we're ready to lock in an interest rate maybe by midocctober, it should be pretty attractive for the district. So, that's what we're prepping for and that's
017what the schedule on page six lays out. And uh probably most of you remember that we said this process always takes about 60 to 90 days from the time you tell us to go forward. Uh we have to work with the administration to pull together all the information that the credit rating agency is going to want because again we'll have to update your credit rating just like we did last year. So based on we laid out a schedule here for you that based on this presentation where you're not officially in making any decisions to borrow money tonight. You're just we're asking if you would like to proceed. You can tell us as your financing team. Yes. start this paperwork, work with the administration, prepare things, bring it back on your meeting on September the 22nd
018for your formal consideration where there would be a parameters resolution that passes in a not to exceed amount. That's what we've done in many of the recent issues for the district. And your bond council would be with us, Erica Wyel, and she would present that parameters resolution. That meeting always has to be advertised in your paper, letting the residents know that you're considering borrowing money. So, if you tell us to move forward tonight, one of the things that Erica will be doing is preparing an advertisement that will run 3 days prior to that meeting on the 22nd, letting the citizens know that you're considering this resolution to borrow money. Um, one of the things that we will have in that resolution is what you're borrowing it for. basically all the proposed projects is what the
019project description will be. So, uh Brad and I would be here with Erica on the 22nd to answer any questions because that is when you are voting to actually incur the debt. Um we're not locking in the interest rate that night. We're just getting ready basically. And then during that next month there you see we have midocctober is when we would lock in the interest rates. That's when we would be uh having the credit rating call and updating your credit rating, finalizing the documents, and getting ready to enter the market and actually lock in rates. So, we're projecting on the schedule we're on, we should be able to lock in interest rates in mid-occtober and then we send everything to the state and they have to review it and approve it. That usually takes about
02030 days so that we have your closing when you would actually receive this money have it to invest in mid November is the timeline that we're on right now. So I'll stop there. Sure. >> So is there a chance it could be lower? >> What we run those numbers at that five? That's likely what the coupon might be when we sell the bond, but it is probably sold at a premium where the investor is giving the school district more than 100 cents on the dollar. So, the yield actually comes down to something in the fours. So, that five is really a not almost a not to exceed amount that we're showing you. Right. Right. But when we're finished, it could be fives in in the end, but because investors would pay you a premium, the
021actual rate will come down into the fours. Okay? But we need to run those fives because when we were talking about the planning for this and making sure that you had money in this current budget to cover this borrowing, we wanted to make sure that if we end up with fives there, you have enough money to cover what those payments would be based on the fives. Good questions. The only thing I'll add if if you look at that schedule under the principal column in the total you'll notice that's less than 15. So with this premium we actually can issue less bonds. I don't know if you see that in the second column under principal. It's at the bottom it totals less than because so we downsize the amount of bonds we have to issue because
022of this premium. So any other questions? >> Any other questions? >> Question. So we have three years that we have basically what that value would look like. >> Good good question. So if you think about the borrowing that we did last year, we worked with Oz and we took that money and we got it invested right away because of those higher interest rates that we talked about. And so that money's been sitting there generating interest earnings. Hundreds of thousands of interest earnings has been generating. You've spent some of that down I think on the purchase of the building. I think some of that money was used for that. So that money is going to >> interest or the money >> the the both really the the original borrowing but the interest has been getting added
023to that account as it gets credited. Okay. So in that instance that money's been there generating additional interest earnings that the plan would be you spend that money from last year first as the construction starts and this new borrowing we would do the same thing take and invest it. The question is, and what we need from your architects is a draw schedule of how quickly will you start paying out this new borrowing so that we could estimate for you how much we might generate in interest earnings. But if we just think about it, if that original money from last year is enough to hold you over for about a year and you take this 15 million and you invested at 3.5% for one year, that's about $525,000 that you would earn in interest just in
024one year. So the variable >> you giving me a lower return. Well, currently short-term interest rates have come down because >> is this going to be shortterm? >> Your investments when we take it to invest it, it's basically invested like in a money market account and those rates have come down from where they were a year and a half ago when the Fed had interest rates higher. So, I think probably your liquid school district, the tax money that's just come in is probably invested close to four right now. So you would be earning something around that. >> Yeah. I use three and a half that by the time you get this money, assuming the Fed cuts rates next week and maybe cuts rates again in October because their next meeting is the end of October,
025by the time you get this money, short-term rates might be down to a number like three and a half. But as an example, you could generate half a million dollars of interest earnings on this. and that's what you're able to keep. And if you don't touch this money for another year after that, you would generate additional interest earnings. But it sounds like the project's going to be expected to move along pretty quickly and you will spend through this money pretty quickly. But there should be a good opportunity to at least probably earn interest on it for a year. Big question. So >> you have a motion to authorize the team and if you do that obviously we would all be back here in two weeks at your meeting with the resolution for your consideration. We're
026trying to make sure you're prepared. Let me again separate. And that's what we have next to. Well, let's let's take this a first and we'll do a roll call on this one. This is to uh to uh uh to start the wine work. >> So can I get a motion? >> Motion uh to approve request for issuance of 2025 series bonds. No second movement second. Any questions? We get roll call >> to move forward with the issuance of general obligation. >> Yes. >> Folks, >> yes. >> Hatcher. >> Yes. >> Mell. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Bell. >> Yes. >> Mr. Steven Johnson. >> Yes. >> Johnson. >> Yes. >> Mr. R. >> Yes. motion passes 801. >> All righty. So that's you guys can start doing what you have to do. Okay. Thank you. All
027right. >> Uh next up is uh we will go through >> a question on C. >> You said a question on C. Okay. All right. Then we'll take u we Okay, we can take them all. Then we can just come to see and ask that voice. Do that. >> Okay. And then we have to pull it or whatever it to do. Huh? What then? What would be the easiest thing to do? all the way through G. We pull out A B through G. Uh, and pull C out >> and D. >> C and D go together. And D. >> Okay. C and D. Can I get a motion? Uh motion to approve uh section six uh finance B through the exceptions. Give me a chance. Uh B through H with the exception of C and
028D. Sorry, did I say that wrong? That's right. H connected to C. >> Yes, you pull C and D out. He asked if H was a part of them, but H is actually more of a capital funding. >> So it should be up. Okay. >> You did it correct. You did it right. What you did was correct. >> Second. >> Okay. Movement. Second. Any question? All in favor? I >> I approve. >> I have it. All right. Now we at C. >> Yeah. >> Just do C by itself. >> C and D. >> Okay. C and D. All right. >> So we rejecting these bids. Right. All right. >> Can I get a motion for C and D? Let's move. Edber second move. Second. >> Any discussion? >> So, no. All right. So this rubber
029mulch >> I had a question about because I don't know if they changed the grade of rubber that they use on these but before when they were putting rubber out they were attracting bees and it was issue for students at other schools. >> So yeah we can certainly ask that may come up in our conversation but we can we can ask that >> I did not either. >> We will check. So the rubber attract >> maybe some >> but it was an issue for >> so uh so the motion will pass with >> we'll go back we'll discuss that discuss so that's a discussion >> any other discussion >> I have a question about the accept and reject so um we're rejecting river rock river rock mulch in l of wood chip mulch And also
030um the motion is to reject side in l of grass seed. So we don't want to do these things, >> right? >> Okay. >> The river rock is rocks kids pick and throw. >> So that's why we we don't want any wood chips. Okay. And as opposed to rubber mulch >> it's rubber mulch in L of wood chips and river rockets. So we're so it's a rubber mulch in L of the wood chips. to that extent. >> Oh, okay. That's what I was missing. So, the rubber lo and the wood chips, right? >> So, that's the prop. I thought that we were looking to do rubber mulch in of the wood chips and then I see river rock in L of Hold on y'all. I'm processing. So we read each entry line as a proposal
031and then a decision is either to accept or reject that proposal. >> We are rejecting the river, >> right? So we don't want the river rock but we are accepting the rubber mulch. So Oh, so then we can choose that mean they said this is the base. I get the piece of it. So what I guess what Dr. Melissa is saying is we're looking to go against mulch instead of wood. >> Okay, that's all that's supposed to be. >> All right. >> Any other discussions? I just wonder I have um I have rubbing Walter at my home. I don't have feet, so I'm not sure. What I like about it is it lasts a lot longer than the wood. The color stays. I've had it and I have had to do very little work. The
032only reason why I might refresh it is because um grass clippings have gotten it and my OCD makes me put new one over top of that part. But the river um the rubber mulch need to look into it because I don't have a problem with >> probably the manufacturer. >> Well, that's what we put down, >> right? But she's saying that they going to ask that question. >> Who raised the question, Mr. Johnson? It may be a manufacturer manufacturer. >> Yeah. So they look into it. So >> I may have to go that route too one day then. >> Uh yeah, it's a lot easier. Yeah. Should I have them kick it up? >> All right. There's a motion on the floor. Any other discussion? >> One more question just so that I'm clear. So,
033u in L of grass seed, we're rejecting S and L of grass seed. So, we are going with grass seed. Correct. Okay. Thank you. >> Any other? All in favor? >> I oppose. I personnel. Anything in personnel is A through >> A through E A through F. >> A through F personnel A through F. Can I get a motion? >> Second. Move a second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I oppose. I didn't have anything about board comment. Did I miss that? What did we miss? I didn't see comments. >> Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Stand up. Okay. Uh so the next thing we're in now is uh we finished with regular meeting. Oh, educational athletic committee. So we finished with the Okay. Uh athletic committee comments discussion. >> How you guys doing? Um just two
034things. Uh first we're looking from athletic aspect. Uh we're working with BSN or we're trying to is a conversation where the mix up right now. Uh they have something called BSN sideline sports where we're trying to work to kind of just give alumni, our community and our athletes opportunity to have a full online store um to go shopping year round. Uh and I think couple things that's pretty neat with that. They have like alumni section. Uh so for alumni that always come back to games and always want gear. Uh sometimes we have stores, but the things with the stores that we we usually have, they're open for two weeks. If you miss that or you're just in town, uh so this gives us a year- round store. Um it's for all sports alumni. Um they
035offer with multiple brands. So, you know, some people are just Nike guys, Adida guys, or whatever the case may be. Uh it's multiple uh brands. And then from a school aspect, we'll also get a kickback. So, that's something that we're in conversation with uh to offer that from a district. Um, also just want to give just a quick general fall uh update in regards to our sports. Um, one thing that you know I think we look back as far as all of our sports that's pretty neat is I just actually just did a distinct about it. Uh, five of our seven head coaches for our fall sports are in our district and in our building. So I think when we talk about trying to get five out of five out of the seven. So um,
036you know, when we talk about trying to get coaches in the building, I think we're on the right track with that. Um, just want to go down each sport and just give a quick update on, you know, how their year has started so far. Uh, starting with girls tennis. Um, they had a four-game win streak. They literally just beat Middletown today. So, that makes it five out of the last seven. Um, they're led by a senior Sophia Fields who has five individual wins. Um, and they're off to the best start in the last 15 to 20 years as far as I could go back. Um, and I do want to give a shout out to Coach Port, uh, who's also, you know, one of those five that's in the building. He also announces for our
037football games. um just seeing, you know, just the work that he's put in with the tennis program, both boys and girls. Um I applaud him and he's off to a great start, one of the best in school history. Um boys football also off to a hot start, 3 and 0. Um have outscored opponents 159 to 20 in the first three games. So obviously taking care of business, you know, multiple division one commits, have three division one commits already going into this year, uh which is, you know, very hard to to to have at any school. So, uh, we already have three division one commits that are all seniors, and we'll we'll probably have a good group of other guys that will commit after the season. Um, golf, uh, we have four members at the moment.
038We're still trying to grow that program. Um, led by a sophomore, Christian Fodor, who shot under 100 twice so far. Um, so, you know, that's a growing program for us. Um, Coach John Williams, who's at the middle school, he's doing a good job with that. He's taking pride in that. We've already had multiple meetings on what we can do to kind of grow that, but he's in it for the long run, so that's good. Um, field hockey, they're actually playing right now, so that's where I'll be heading once I'm done here. Um, they started off the season with a 4 and0 win. Uh, tonight's actually their youth night. So, another thing, Coach Dickerson, who's also a physical education teacher in the district. Um, I applaud her. She's taken the road of building our youth program
039as well. Uh, so now when we talk about a feeder program, she's took that head on, um, to kind of, you know, build this program up. our girls soccer team that graduated a lot a year ago. Um they recently won a game over Big Springs 4-1. Our boys soccer team uh have not won any games yet. I've lost their first three. Uh but you know, talking with coach George, uh very competitive, very inspiring group. Uh led by uh Gordon Bailey, who was a kid that plays multiple sports for us. So he plays football for us and he plays soccer. Um and then cross country. Um senior day recently just passed. We we honored three seniors. Um Aiden Faulner is one of those guys. He uh recently raced at in Hershey at the what is it
040called? At the Hershey run for Chocolate where there was over 120 race or runners and he placed 17th. So he's on he's on good pace of possibly you know final for um conference and states and also Aiden Do who's another senior um ran his best race at senior day. So um we have a good group good group of coaches that are committed for the long run which we're excited for. I think we're off to a pretty good start in regards to fall sports. anything? >> Yes, sir. >> I need some more gear. >> I like that idea. I like that idea. >> Anybody know I like my stuff? >> I like that idea. >> Yeah, I think they do know that. >> Make sure you get something that says school district. >> yeah. So, we'll
041get that open to the public and then we'll we'll push it out like from a whole community aspect. >> Did you hear him? >> What' he say? No. Make sure you get something that says school board director. >> Okay, I will >> just miss Hill. >> We'll get that. >> No, it won't be just because it's going to be the only way I'm going to ever get away with wearing Hannah red instead of rolling roof. >> We play them next Thursday, by the way. >> Yeah, >> that was Yeah. So, we'll probably offer multiple school board approved logos. We won't just have one, but yes. >> All right. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you. All right. What's up next? >> Wales presentation exchange. >> Oh, that's right. Ryan Evans. >> Yeah. >> All right.
042How you all doing? >> Hello. Good. How are you? Um, I'm Ryan Evans. I'm the middle school principal. David Archer >> and we're going to be here tonight to talk about um a cultural and educational exchange that um Sesina Township has been able to be part of for the past one on two years um through TA Wales International Exchange Program. So, TA International, it's actually a program um in the United Kingdom, specifically in Wales, that promotes collaboration between Welsh schools um and organizations outside of Wales um that educators, head school leaders, school volunteers can all participate in. And everything is funded by the Welsh government. Um and luckily enough, we were able to be included at that in that at no cost to the school district. So, um, programs that TA tries to embed itself
043in in Wales are are all educational. Um, but that could be anything from preschool, youth, academic, uh, extracurriculars, I'm sorry, adult education, um, vocational education, and higher education opportunities. Um, for the purposes of our partnership, um, that we focus mainly at the secondary education level somewhere and and they go by grade or ages instead of grades. So somewhere between like age 11 which kind of like middle school kids and then the whole way up to graduation. >> Um and for for a lot of our focus was kind of obviously they came here they really enjoyed their time here which was great and it gave us an opportunity to kind of see the connection between both worlds. I mean the biggest takeaway for us uh was kids are kids no matter where they go right. So
044um being able to see multiple different facets of the way they do things at their school. The biggest takeaway for me was the diversity. Um it was amazing to see um different kids, different races from different countries and how they were able to interact with each other. Hit the next slide, Mr. Bish. So first steps a year ago, we actually started meeting with um head school teachers from Wales virtually. Um now we did this in partnership with some folks from the IU as well as some folks from um Williamsport School District. So there was a cohort of folks who met virtually for a year. Every month we'd get together at like 6:50 in the morning. Um and we'd all be in the office and sit in our computers. But that's kind of like, you know,
045the tail end of their day, very beginning of our day. We would would talk about the issues that um we were facing um as educational systems. And part of the reason that um TA chose our school systems to align is because our demographics are very similar. Um and some of our concerns or issues that arise are very similar as well. >> I guess some of the things they were really interested in looking at was how the systems were obviously changing from one place to the next. We're all coming out of co we're all trying to figure out how other ways to um you know engage learners and look at things from a different standpoint. So it was kind of great to have the conversations before they got here and then how we you know obviously
046spent time here. um we took the trip up to Williamsport and different things and then see how it was on opposite end and it was great dialogue and great opportunities for us to learn from each other. >> So Mr. Archer said they visited us um they visited the middle school and high school. We gave them pretty thorough overviews. Um of our MTSS, PBIS process, dual enrollment teacher academy. Um and also we did a little bit of a cultural exchange. Um we went out to the glass lounge and fed them real American food. They got some big old stinks. Yep. They It was It was a very unique experience for them. >> Sure. Got them from frosties. >> They They really They really really wanted to try Wendy's. So, we went out when we were in
047Williamsport after we visited the uh College of Technology up there. Went out of our way in a school van to uh get some frosties for them and take it over to Williamsport um high school for them. >> So, obviously it was a week long trip. We talked about different things throughout the time. Uh, I would tell you they they really talked about what we fed them. I would tell you they fed us twice over. >> Oh my gosh. >> Literally, I think by the second day, I was I mean, trying to find ways to hide food in my book bag. Um, but honestly, the the experience was great. We started out at um what was the first St. Tyos? >> Yeah, we went to St. Kylo which was a private school which is um it
048actually has connection to the church. Um they were actually one of the first schools to open up postco. So one of the major takeaways from that school was obviously the diversity I talked about but um for them they were making choices which was in the best interest of the learners. Um Ian basically told us one of the cool things was um they were in COVID, they were struggling and he was like what happens if I open my school and the government did not have an answer and he opened the school the next day. >> Um it was you know really connecting when we talk about the things that we're trying to do here and how we're fighting this good fight every day and sometimes people aren't going to understand it. um over there we instantly
049connected because they are making decisions that are student led every day and honestly just being unapologetically throughout the process. So um for us being American couple takeaways immediately for me was there was no African-American headteers. Um so when we walked through the building students were instantly asking me like like who are you and what do you do? Um, and when we we found the equivalent, um, I think they might have had like 15 kids there. I think by the time we really had a dialogue, there was like 20 kids that were just fighting to get in the room cuz they wanted to know a little bit more about who we are and how we do things. So, I thought it was really great. >> I I will tell you, we worked. They would pick us
050up in a school van every morning, 8:00 in the morning. They wouldn't drop us off till 8 o'clock at night. Yes. >> I mean, we toured four schools that are listed there. I think Willows, the Willows way was probably the one that connected the most with us. Exactly what Mr. Archer was just saying. We got out to the playground and man, they were they were our kids. You know, different different names, but they were our kids. Um, you know, the one young lady, she come up and said, "Excuse me, are you really from America? Sup, dude?" You know, she went really American accent that something that like our middle school children or even some some high school children walk up and do to somebody, you know. So, um I think Willow is probably felt like
051the most like home for us. Um but all of the schools there, you know, facing similar challenges we are every day, but very diverse schools. Um that also all of them admissions based. None of them provide transportation. Um >> uniforms. >> Yeah, uniforms. Every school we were in uniforms. Um very unique. >> And then the unique part about it was they also didn't have the luxuries that we have. So they're in full shirt, tie jackets. Some of the some of the buildings had no AC. Um, >> they also were talking about different things that we're dealing with. A lot of the schools are building schools because a lot of the, you know, the cement that they were using were from the 50s and 60s. The buildings are falling apart >> and it was it was
052bad. >> The one school we were in was a multi-story modular building. >> Legal land. >> Yeah. It was like so modular is three stories high just stacked. Yep. Yeah. >> And and like like literally if when you heard the kids, they were they were banging on the walls because they knew we were there trying to get attention. But um they were trying now right outside of you know Legoland was a $25 million school being built that's going to open like this year. >> Um they were putting money right back into uh the schools and honestly um you can see an immediate impact um on how they were trying to do things. So some of the decisions you all made here tonight for that funding that that was made at one point over there, same
053thing. On top of the school visits, we also visited a sixth form college. So um education system in Wales is done at the age of 16 and then students go to a sixth form which is like precursor to college, college prep and then they would go to university. Um, we also attended an educational conference and um, we actually got to speak with their representative from Parliament and then we did a food tour and we are still digesting digesting the food. So, Mr. Bishop, if you want to go um, so some of the things that were interesting was obviously you guys do a lot of the work here for us, right? You guys are constantly advocating. Um what was immediate was a direct line from um school leaders right directly to like the government like we
054need five million figure it out we need it now. Um which obviously when we're explaining to them how you guys are doing things they're completely blown away at the work that you guys got to do to try to get us a school get us what we need. Um, obviously we started talking about the combination of government funding and everything was emissions based. Like literally schools were fighting to get kids and it wasn't always the best of the best. It was literally watching communities and sometimes um where we stayed was pretty nice, but there were like if you went right around the corner, it looked like certain parts of Harrisburg and those kids were still fighting to get to these, you know, nicer schools to give themselves an opportunity to try to, you know, get themselves
055out of their current situation. >> Um there's a lot of traditional academic focus in the schools. Um, there's really no provisions for a lot of extracurriculars, not a lot of music ed, art ed, teched, no after-school programs. If you're interested in getting a music lesson, your parent pays for a private lesson. Um, if you need tutoring, your family pays for private tutor. So, I think when Ian was here, he mentioned like there's there's a lot that we provide here in the education system in in the states. And um, we could see a little bit of a lack of it there, but very academically heavily focused. And now honestly it kind of looks like schools look like maybe like 15 years ago. Like there's a lot of sit and get. There's a lot of just stop
056and figure it out. But um they gave us opportunity to talk to teachers and the teachers were like hey you know our kids need this. I went to the copier and copied this book to help our learners get what they need. Um so there's a lot of correlation between like what our teachers are trying to do um to just make sure kids get what they need. Now their lunches were like >> like there are certain aspects where they didn't >> they didn't uh I mean like literally healthy >> chefs chefs fresh cut foods um all of their silverware was wooden biodegradable um very very healthy real food. >> Yeah. So it was it was that was that was an interesting takeaway. But they also what I'm realizing is, you know, they're they're putting they're intentional
057on where the money goes and they're trying to make sure their money is always touching kids. So, we had a lot of great conversation about how we are making sure that the money stays as close to the kids here and I think that's part of the reason why they're looking to try to keep the connection with Susana Township. >> Yeah. Well, and going back to the needs, I mean, our needs are universal space, clean space, good space for kids to to to work in, good food for kids to eat. um and growing kids academically and socially, emotionally, making them successful graduates. >> Um and we need everyone's support to get that done. So whether you're in Wales or here, that's universal. >> Mr. Fish, >> that was that's what Mr. Martin that's my Dr. Martin
058picture. Chippy Lane. >> Chippy Lane. We asked the kids where where do we get something to eat? Because of course we had gone to the you know places adults would recommend Chippy Lane. All the kids said no matter what school go to Chippy Lane. Chris Brown was there today. >> Questions. >> What was your biggest? >> I think I think it's exactly what I just said is that the needs for children right now across the world are kind of universal and funding and finances are clearly tight everywhere. So making sure that we can conserve, save, get the funding that we need that touches students no matter where they're at um is important. We got to supply for their needs. >> I think for me it was simply like I'm looking at how people are running
059to our district. Um it looks different over there. Like there's more torren areas that they're running to the UK to outrun their situation. So when I came back, like sometimes we're looking at some of our kids that are not taking advantage of the opportunity here at Susuana Township and I'm pulling out pictures showing them, hey, it's little things like their basketball court didn't have a net, right? Like they didn't have there might have been 20 kids with one soccer ball. Like little things that, you know, they didn't have an amazing football field. They didn't have things that we kind of take for granted. and just trying to make sure our learners understand that we don't have the best of everything, but we need to take care of what we have >> in order to kind
060of get more. So, it was great for me to see. >> Scotch egg gets a piece. >> No, really. >> I thought you said haggus. Did you say haggus? >> It's a liver liver meatball >> covered in grace. Got it. Yeah. >> Yeah. I had to get it. They they brought it up to Dr. Martin when he was here and >> he actually really liked the lava bread and cockals. >> I didn't like that one. >> That was He loved that one. >> Huh? >> Yeah. Listen, it was really good. They gave me something else right afterwards. That was >> in July. >> June. >> It was after school letter. >> How was the letter? >> The best weather they had. >> Yep. It was It was the best weather they could offer us. No.
061Low 70s, rainy. >> Yeah. >> They said it was the best weather they've had in a long time. >> Yeah. >> Saved it for us. >> Well, you have a dress for the dogs. >> Pretty well prepared. >> You had to have a jacket. >> Any other questions? >> Okay. >> I will simply add that this was all free of charge. The district does not pay a dime for these fine gentlemen to travel to Wales. It was all a part of the exchange. Yep. >> And our Welsh friends will be back in November. >> Yep. >> They want to come back in Seymour. So, they'll be back. >> So, we paid for them to come. They paid for us to go. No. >> No. It's the the TA the TA exchange program that I started
062with this the presentation with. It's all funded by the Welsh government. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And I believe Miss Hill did have a chance to meet them while they were here. >> Yes. >> All right. Well, thank you. >> Thank you. Oh, thanks. D uh this is for the uh >> what's next? >> Oh, summer school. Oh, yeah. Summer school. >> Okay. Summer school. >> All right. just here to give us a recap of our 2425 summer school numbers um and things that credits that were earned um progressions that were met at our at our elementary level. So jump into it. So at the high school um it's pretty much same uh process system as last year. We utilize the Kayola and as well as inperson um learning opportunities for either acceleration or credit
063recovery. So learners were afforded the opportunity to move along a pace or to you know earn some credits that they might have missed out on during the course of the school year. So this kind of just breaks down the total numbers. Um high school specifically had a total of 508 learners that participated. If you look at the um graph to the right that has the 726, those are how many classes um that were taken out of the 508 learners. those 508 learners had an option to take one or or two courses. So that's that's where we get that percentage from. Out of those courses that were taken, 91% of them were completed successfully and uh 9% were not. On the left side, it just tells you how many actual out of the total 508 438
064learners completed the courses that were that they were in, whether it be one or two, and uh 14% did not. All right. All right. And these are just the breakdowns of the courses that were selected um during the time period. You can see there was a you know a heavy emphasis on the math area um mostly I mean core core subjects dominate other than uh PE should we go. All right. So then we get into the middle school. um their process is a little different. They have you know learners come in person. They are um given live instructive instruction by um teachers um and four four uh core content areas. So I just ran 8 to 11:30 but the times are the same for all the buildings. So um their selection was based off of
065MTSS data. So out of the data showed 122 students were recommended and they have the grade breakdowns here. So out of the 120 that was recommended, 76 students took advantage of summer school at the middle school next. So just of those students that attended um you know at the middle school we look at learning outcomes, how they're moving along their progression in their core subjects. Um have almost about 5,000 additional hours of instruction. 100% of the attendees did meet a goal of a missing learning objective that they had in the regular school year. So all the attendees are on pace to move into what is occurring for them this the start of this school year. All right. At Holtzman uh we see we have uh 268 invites uh sent. This was also based on their
066MTSS data. Uh out of that 268 62 learners signed up to attend. 83% of the learners attended over that span. So they have a little progression breakdown similar to the uh middle school kind of breaks down uh how many what percentage of learners moved across what they were working on at the time. So out of those uh learners in ELA 25% working on K to2 targets 42% third and so on at uh it breaks down for math too that's why you so 98% of students benchmark during summer school. We take data when they start, we take data when they leave. We see, you know, who made some growth uh during that time period. So, we got pretty much 98% of the students that were there uh did move did move in their data um in
067ELA and 93% in math. Uh Slack is similar to um Thomas Hostman. The only difference, and I kind of do want to kind of point this out, um, Thomas Hostman sends out their invites based on their MTSS process. And as you seen, they had 68 people out of 268 sent. Um, when I was the principal at Sacramento Move years ago, we decided we're going to send it out to everybody and see what comes back. So, they they Miss Presley did keep that going. So we send everybody was invited 141 students signed up. So those students those learners might have been on pace or not on pace but we we still open up to them anyway. Right. So we we all we got about double the attendance um based off of that. Um this is just
068a typical schedule which the same at hostman as well. It's a little bit more breakdown how the day goes. Breakfast literacy math you get a special little PBIS incentive lunch and then you're out. So out of the 148, 113 attended. Uh 28 did not attend. So we got about 80% um attendance rate based off of attend of invitations sent out to the entire building. That's which is about 800 learners. All right, here goes kind of similar breakdown. 82% of the learners who attended uh increase in at least one area of acadians. That's what we use to test their literacy skills and 92% in math. >> Oh, was this >> questions? >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, for the 28 students who were offered and did not attend, what happened to them? Were they just kept or
069they did not like advance to the next level? >> At Sarah Lyn? >> Yeah. So at Sar Lunov they invited the whole building. >> That statistics middle school. >> No. So out of everybody in the building that accepted the invitation, 28 of those just didn't end up coming. Yeah. So out of those 28 is um I probably could find out for you, but we don't know if they were like struggling or not because we gave it to open to all the learners. So I could be I could be a learner that's advanced and I I had the opportunity to still come to summer school and you know further my learning. Yeah. >> More is it considering the invasion of everybody trying to take that number up? >> Yeah, that's something that we looked at to
070be honest with the first time that I did it at uh at Sarah Lenof when I was a principal the number was the same. So, I I feel like probably this this time was the most separation between inviting everybody and not um that's something that we definitely can can consider. I mean, I look at um that's definitely something that we put on the table to say if that's if that would be feasible for both buildings to be able to do that. So this year was one of the years where it was like we got way more by doing that than what Thomas told me. Typically it's kind of like even with who attends and who doesn't either way. But that's that's the reason why I just started trying to give it to everybody when I
071was principal there to see if it would be a big difference where this this year I mean that was a significant difference. >> Yeah. So typically when you do like summer school is like a title one type thing. it was like to uh to accelerate learners that might have that summer slide that might be behind. So that was the basis of even having summer school. So I kind of went rogue on my own to say look what happens if you open it to everybody. So I would say it's partially my fault for just kind of breaking the mold of how we did how we offered it to people. But it's definitely something that we could do for both buildings. Yeah. You probably get about 50 more kids at at Holtzman. I'm I would like project.
072>> So, Dr. Martin, uh this is Miss Presley. Uh something to keep in mind too is we also have to watch the numbers based on who wants to work and we have available and are willing. So, we have to sort of a fine balance there. >> That's a good point. Oh, one year one year nobody wanted to work. So, we had to we had we had a waiting list. Oh my >> like because you got teachers teachers if teachers got to want to participate for us to staff the classroom. So we didn't have enough at one point in time we and when that occurs we generate a waiting list try to you know see who we look at it by need who's the is going to need this a little more than another to make
073a decision based off of that. But that's a great point that she just communicated. My question was um you get students who achieve better may not need the help but parents want to put them in it so they continue. >> Do those students hinder the students that are not doing as well because they're in the class they're moving things. >> So that's work with the learners that need more help. >> Yeah, that's a good part about how our instructional model is set up. Like when we start talking about competency based learning and all the name changes that we went through, our our instructional model is set up to literally meet the need more than we have. So if if you're going to look at the data and if the data says I have this group
074of learners that are fit that mode that you're talking about, then they're still able to run while you know these learners are able to get a little bit more um intensive support from the teacher. So that kind of works itself out a little bit and summer school is a smaller setting. talking about a classroom size of 10 to 15 kids. And somebody could jump on and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm I'm I'm definitely it's it's probably about 10 to 15. So to be able to differentiate with that amount of with a teacher and those little amount of kids, that's not difficult at all. Yeah. >> Yes. >> So I know we have an entry survey. We do any type of post uh post program survey um starting like virtual engagement like those folks
075that did not send their kids uh we send out any type of try to get an idea like what the the roadblocks or what the obstacles may have been. >> Yes, I can answer that. We've done that years ago and and over the years we don't offer a full program and for families they need full-time child care and our program is half day >> and typically that's been the barrier. So um world you've been here the longest but you may remember over the years we're trying to partner with the Y um to do the second half of the day because we don't always get teachers to do the full day. I mean think about it through summer. Um but also we've worked with this we parks and w they were able to staff a program
076for families at cost at least at Sarah Lindoo. >> Yeah. >> So a lot of it a lot of it's um supervision. >> So I was wondering about that like especially postco >> parents >> there's a universe of parents out there that have flexible schedules. has any of that has that needle moved at all? So >> I I feel like our our attendance rate is an average. It just like it hasn't exceeded either way like you know even prior to co >> Yeah. I feel like when when I first assumed the principal ship at Sarov, I I feel like I probably went above and beyond to secure families and it was based strictly based on data and what the data was showing about what the need was and even still it was I mean 20
077to 15 more kids. I mean this is surveying. This is uh putting devices in parents' hands at parent pickup at at games like we're going going to them on iPad. What do you need? What do you want? How can we assist you? What even even for programming for do you prefer to have a school program in the evening, in the morning, during the day? Like getting the data, getting the data. I mean, you you move the needle slightly like either way. I mean, and that was years ago, but you know, we do transportation is provided to and from and lunch. >> And lunch and snack. >> Yeah, you're right. They get breakfast coming. >> Yeah. No, it's I mean, like I said, it's small class sizes. You get pretty much a condensed typical school day.
078I mean, it's I feel like it's a good deal, you know, to to be able to come in and, you know, I feel like since co like teachers are starting to trickle back into wanting to be there. I feel like, you know, that time piece and we we did we did we were able to secure a good amount of teachers at, you know, at the buildings for this year, but that that is always a heavy variable. Like if you start talking about four or 500 kids taking advantage, it probably will end up just being a waiting list to be honest with you. Like we probably we probably wouldn't be able to staff that or or what we would do is probably look at the data and get back to really going into those learners that
079really need that, you know, put putting priority to that. Any other questions? >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Which side of our high school that pretty standard port side of our high school? >> I'm in our high school. >> So at the at the our high school has about 700. >> So you Yeah. You talking about over 65 70% of kids taking advantage at some type of level. I don't >> It's not just remediation. >> No, it's for celebration too. >> Number of kids come because they want to get ahead. Yeah. So I guess that's my like where where are we comparatively like other like how do we assess um uh not not even effectiveness but the uh the attractiveness of summer school to neighboring districts. like I because I I get the need to balance
080um resources, but like over time you kind of get into a you get to a rhythm where you say, "Well, we wouldn't have the teachers anyway." And my concern is like you you get into an equilibrium where you never never try to see what's beyond that that rate of saturation because you don't have enough teachers. But like all things being equal, if you could get 100% participation, could you match that level of engagement? And if we can't, like what are those sticking points for parental engagement? I mean, and maybe the answer is like every district is like we'll never we'll never get 100%. We're stuck at 90, but like have we looked at what that sticking point is for that last 10 last 18 20%. >> Are you talking about at the high school? at
081all at all the levels like ideally but I mean I would assume each I would assume each school's got different sticking points because high school students can get themselves to school better than middle school >> well also also at the high school level well at the secondary level I speak at the secondary level because you might be able to speak to a little bit six to eight with that because there's a heavy online component that exists at the high school like I'm a 10th grade 11th learner, I can go access a asynchronous or synchronous course or a hybrid course and go through that you know I wouldn't be able to the adult oversight component is a little less the responsibility at that level. So to answer that, I feel like you asked like three questions.
082Like the first part of that question is the high school will probably be able to absorb that level of engagement and like everybody in the high school said they were going to do summer school at some type of level. We probably could be flexible enough to try to meet that needs by using that online option pair with an inerson option to make it work. Like that's something I could see being realistic at the K to five level. That would take some a lot of acrobatics to get that. You you you require more people, adults. >> And then you also require a lot more responsibility for parents trying to figure out how that schedule works because it's not full day who can meet those needs. I got to get a babysitter or do I got to
083pay part-time daycare and things of that nature. And we also got to get over get to the fact where, you know, some parents tell us straight up, you know, the summertime is for the kids. Like even we have like we have like a fit fit day for snow and we you know we get push back for that you know the parents snow day supposed to go play in the snow you know what I mean we're not we're not doing the school work this day you know so you you do burn so you know you kind of are we say sticking points there's like a more traditional mind frame that we are in competition with which not saying that is right or wrong that summer school is just won't ever be an option for us because
084the summer is summer so I I think those caveats will always exist especially for K to 5 especially for K to 5. I feel like even at the middle school I don't want to overstep but I feel like even even with that virtual option you probably could conduct and be more flexible for that learner too at some level and and absorb a little more if we utilize that a little more. Yeah. So >> I mean >> there's something it's a resource issue and that's something that we address one day and we should be looking at that. >> It's a cultural thing and that's a that's a messaging that's a messaging discussion that we have to have with the community that's out here saying how come test scores aren't AB and C. Yeah. know that's a
085that's a parental engagement issue. So for us like helping us understand what the conversation is so that when we engage people they have questions about like why Johnny's not doing X say well what what are mom and dad doing with Johnny summertime or get sal that we we need to be able to articulate that that's where we we seem to have this seem to have this in this infidelity between communicate like what that message is, what some of the folks out in the community think it is and we have these they may have these blind spots. If we're not at least showing that we're addressing that continue foundation alphasai foundation They just any questions on that? Uh I believe started this two weeks. >> Um the program is a new program this year. believe they've
086actually um the gentleman that used to be that provided it is Jonathan Breeden and he's actually been in the middle school before second year. Yes. Yes. >> Under the program we're talking about 20,000. Yes. Everybody program lead >> on your child that's before la. Oh yeah. Believe I did see the last two leave program and then we believe in your child. >> True colors. >> Yes. Oh, I think that's what is up there. >> No, but is the next one after? >> We haven't gotten there yet. So, is this action? >> It's all discussion. All in one discussion. >> Oh. discussion. Okay. >> True color we believe is listed as action. >> True colors is sure is >> Should that be discussion or is it discussion? >> Should that be discussion? Is that an error?
087>> No, that's just discussion. >> No, no, no. It's discussion. >> So now you want to go back to Best Buddy Club? >> No. No, we're not there yet. We're not there yet. It's still that blown out. >> What? Go back to >> Which one you say to? Maybe I'm missing a fail. >> Laura light. >> No, we just got ahead of us. >> When you skip from the believe program to the we believe in your child true color. Yeah. >> Two different programs. But best buddies is down. You were just >> Oh, okay. So where we're at best through color >> through colors. Yes. So we just got clarity that that is a discussion and not action. We could say something here. >> So the description below says that you're discussing it. So I
088think it's sort of self-explanatory whether you have some want to correct the record say that it's going to be considered for action. But the description is there. And this is the Lawrence Brothers program, correct? >> Yes. True colors. >> How how we doing? >> They are actually covering >> they're covered. Um continue with the five officers. They're they're covering the cost for this year. That's great. G lower line agreement with lower light. Okay. Any questions on that? NH. Oh, it's not with best party club. >> Is this a new club? >> Yes. >> And if they do field trips, all that. >> This is a high school. >> They doing fundraisers. >> So, this this club is birthed out of a grant that we receive for cadet teaching for cadets that are interested specifically in
089special ed. So everything that comes out of it, fee like field trip, cost, materials, what have you, it's going to be paid for through that volunteers. >> Um, no, I feel like part of the grant pay every club has an advisor that's paid. That's a big >> just like any other club that we have. And these are students uh pairing up or creating like buddy ships with students with um intellectual and developmental disabilities >> specifically. Yes. >> So these are students who who are in the teaching program like student teaching program to go into special education with students who have um developmental. >> Yes. >> Okay. So we already have a cadet teaching program that I feel like we have maybe 15 20 kids involved in that right now. This is an effort by the
090state to say we want to generate interest get kids that are more interested in that involved in some way. So we made a club for it for those specific reinstate the Bible club. This club has been in existence but just there's no record of it ever starting. So >> they used to do it. >> They did. >> Yes. >> Make sure it's born in record. >> I remember I remember the 90. >> Matter of fact, in front of the school there's a little praying area out there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think >> I have a question. >> Yeah. Okay. You said this was an existing club. Do you think >> the one that was in place before? >> Mhm. >> If you have any problem because it looks like it's dealing with >> religion,
091>> Christianity. >> Yes. >> And you have different faiths since we're so have so many faiths in our school. >> Did this generate something? Is this going to generate something? >> It could. We have not had anything all the all these years since Bible clubs has been in existence. So, Bible Club has been here and even since I've been here, but um as advisors come and go, sometimes you lose track of who did what. And when we went to go search it out because we weren't going to bring it to the board, couldn't find a record of it ever being approved. So, we said we're going to officially approve it. So the reinstatement is just to say we're going to officially recognize it again. >> So if an issue didn't come up as long as
092we're offering the same freedom for yes other religions will be legally say correct. >> In the 90s u I went to heaven um they did they did the Bible club and they also did other religions um whatever one anybody felt like doing. Um, but it was pretty well liked in groups of students and it was always before class started. So, it wasn't a fear with any class schedules or anything like that. So I I listen for me I'm all in support of Bible club but then when we just talk about um the slippery slope kind of that we get into when we open up to faith based clubs in the school and and okay so even if we're open to other faiths whatever that faith is Jewish club Islamic club I think probably where and
093and based on a faith-based society kind of value even though we were separated of church state and the school. What if we had a group of students who wanted to have satanic worshippers club? And I feel like this might be opening us up to that kind of a slope. So >> it probably will, but I don't believe not approving Bible club is going to stop that club from coming out. Bible club is not going to trigger that club. That club could come tomorrow without a Bible club. And we still have a slippery slope. >> Yeah. But we wouldn't be endorsing that club within district and use of the facility. >> Why question? >> Because you're not you if you're going to endorse this, you have to endorse any club. >> Even if we don't endorse
094this, we even if we don't endorse this club, there will be a legal fight for that club regardless >> with or without this club. >> I don't think we're endorsing >> condition allowing space. or for anybody >> together. That's it's that's kind of the language she used before. >> Oh, we have our solicitor here. >> She just happens to be here. >> And I think it's great to >> see. So, the thing is it's already we're not opening it. Bible club has been in this district for years, even while I was here. So, this is our attempt to put it on an official record, but it unofficially already exists. >> Does that make sense? We wanted we wanted to put a paper trail in place. >> It's kind of like like hockey club. >> Like,
095it's kind of like because we don't have a hockey team. >> Is it better to leave it alone? That's what I'm saying. to pretend it doesn't exist even though the kids are saying that. I'm just saying I'm saying >> it's good to have space. >> I'm saying it's good ourselves up for >> Yeah. I mean the argu if the argument is do we open ourselves up for the question is we've been open >> for years. So it's not a question of do we do this because of the of the possibility and the possibilities always exist questions like we had gospel right we had gospel >> choir gospel >> choir or or what if we got like clan club or something do you understand what I'm saying >> right now we're talking about protected groups >>
096who would say to you here we cross that bridge when we get there. If we never get there, then we don't have to cross it. If someone else come to a club, we discuss it. But I'm just trying to tric back when they was he was in when you graduate, man. 80 >> 98. So I I knew about it back then. I'm I'm just asking just a question. I'm just going over just a thought process. But when that question you throw out there, it does raise the antage that >> but when you see Bible club on the >> Well, we'll see if for for inclusion and and that is something that can be. >> So students are allowed to leave the school for release time during the school day and go pray. Yeah. So, so
097it's not very different from that. Like churches come and pick up the children in the middle of the day and take them from the school and they go to pray and then they come back. Um, but again with any club, I think we're going to have an issue saying no if it's not falling under discrimination of some protected class. >> Okay. Okay. Yes ma'am it is. It is >> Kirley. >> What is this? >> This like a club discussion. >> It's like a booster club. >> They currently do not have a booster club. So this is like this is what we call a booster club back. >> Booster club. >> Which one? >> Okay. >> Um >> any discussion? >> So they can have a fund. So they got it. Yeah. kids knocking on doors.
098So anyh who um >> may not we know we >> this is my my next qu that was my question or do we are we setting up like uh somewhere where they collect the money >> and all of that because we have a lot of things we're talking about collecting money for that or these any of these things that the school is responsible for paying under the list of expenses that they incurred. So they will follow all the rules under a student activity under our board policy 680 and so yes they would have to report any fundraising activities that they conduct. Uh all of the invoices would come to the business office through the uh coach. She would have she would sign off on the expense and a student officer sign off on the expense
099and so will a building principal. And so those funds, the transactions coming in and going out will be recorded in our financial software. Okay. And while we're on this subject, um, are we requiring our kids to go to a camp? >> So that is something Mr. Dean is working on directly with cheerleading. In the past, they yes, they were required. Um but he is working with them to make this optional. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Uh central pan and education association. Any questions? Okay. Jewish family service. Okay. Discussion questions. >> Yeah. This is for K5 to section three. And who pays? Does a parent pay or a school pay? Who pays? >> Insurance based >> insurance. >> So if a person has what if they don't have insurance, >> you know, instead >> it's 8
100to two >> kindergarten to Kindergarten. I said kindergarten kindergarten. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. >> Okay. >> I just want to make sure you know >> I know what Sarah I said kindergarten. Well, I should have said kindergarten to second grade. So what does somebody do they don't have insurance and they may have services? >> We would have to utilize some of our other resources like the school sites through social worker school counselor somebody else that would be able to help that u university teaches this is a student teaching service. Matter of fact, both programs any discussion on that student teacher. Hey there. Uh, what is that about? Okay, everybody good with that? >> All right. Uh personnel update teams local 776 article 39 that is uh >> thisou okay substitute teaching service
101you know about that >> president discussion >> discussions all discussion agreement motions. >> Thank you. >> Any discussion finance and hostility committee? Uh Mr. Heler, he's not he he's not able to be here tonight because he had a slight accident there. So, should we tell him? >> Yeah, we'll discuss that as a person. We'll >> find out. We'll let you know. Financial report. I don't think I can put a time on you. This your first time off. >> I uh I met with Mr. Anderson today. He goes, "I took a look at your presentation. It looks really good." He goes, "You added some stuff. Are you going to do a 30 to 45 minute presentation?" I was like, "I don't think I'm allowed to do that. Uh so September kicks off um budget and so
102we're always operating in three budget years. Uh we're currently monitoring the 2526 budget. We're closing out the 24 and 24 25 budget and now we're starting to develop the 26 27 budget. This process uh falls under act one of 2006. Um and there are really two pathways uh to addressing the development of the budget. Option one is the accelerated budget and that gives you the option of adopting a resolution that says that you will be under or at the act one index. Once that is done, uh that essentially skips the preliminary budget process. And so many school districts will still develop a preliminary budget, but it doesn't require the board to take action on it. In May, you'll have the proposed final budget presented um and action taken on that. And then in June, it
103will be the final general fund budget adoption. The second option is to increase taxes above the act one index. And essentially, there's one major way that you can do that. and that is through a PTE referendum. There are three categories in which you can qualify for this and that is grandfather debt, special education and pension. This used to be used a lot um in the earlier years uh because expenditures in this area were increasing rapidly but most school districts who attempt this don't qualify for these areas. So there is a process of an application. You have to demonstrate through a preliminary budget that you need expenditures. Your expenditures exceed your revenue and exceed the act one index. And so you submit an application into PTE. They approve or deny this and then you move forward
104through the proposed and final budget. So those are the two avenues. Slide. Internally we have two timelines. Intern. internal timeline is really driven by the act one index and that timeline that is established by PTE and so we'll have benchmarks and uh goals that we'll need to meet to make sure that we're keeping pace with the obligations under act one and then we have our act one timeline that is issued by the public school code September PTE releases the act one index so we know that today that index is 3.5%. At the end of September, they will uh release the adjusted act one index and that is the school districts who have a market value personal aid in personal income aid ratio above 0.4. So in the past we have qualified to have an adjusted
105act one index in October. will continue to uh develop. Building administrators and department leaders will receive their budget packets and begin the development of their budgets and then we'll propose for the board to take action of the accelerated budget opt out resolution as we've done in the past. In December, we have some deadlines to to obey by there. In January, we'll present a preliminary budget just so that you know where we are and where we stand. Um throughout the process, the budget is very fluid. So things continue to change. As you know, now we still don't have a state budget. So a lot of things are up in the air. This is a regular year. It's not a um an election year. So we anticipate that uh Governor Shapiro will do his budget address in
106February as he done he has done in the past and then in March we'll begin working towards that proposed final budget. In April we'll review with the board at a committee meeting um any changes that we do to revenues and expenditures. We'll do the same in May. In May, PTE will release the um homestead farmstead properties information and that application begins in December for for property owners. We'll present and adopt the proposed final budget in May and then a final budget in June. There are hard deadlines that PTE issues and while we don't know those today, we know based off of past timelines um that September 1st and September 30th are the same every single year. uh PTE will notify the school districts um when they need to adopt the resolution to stay below or
107at the alkan index and then May 1st will be um the game the gaming revenue that we receive property tax reduction and then um the county's assessors will give us the information that we need to process the exclusions as I mentioned the act one base index is at 3.5% and that was announced on August 29th. Any questions? >> The majority of our taxes come from local real estate and so that's what we're living on uh for the most part. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next time I'll give you a good >> mine. I guarantee you >> she did a great job. I think the next up is uh >> when they were here >> please. Uh they were here earlier. >> Yes. >> To talk about that and do you want to discuss anything
108on that? Uh ju just that um the South Championship baseball association they've been using the field since the 80s and um they alluded to well as you mentioned there was somewhat of a gentleman's agreement handshake for all those years and so um many folks in the district did not know that that the district owned that property. Um and so we are trying to make our arrangement official by putting together a lease agreement. Uh we are not charging them an exorbitant amount of money to lease. Um they will have priority in terms of use of the field. Uh but it allows us to acknowledge the the decades of investments that they've made to that field but also make sure that it's clear in our history that it does belong to the district. So yes, >> any
109question? Got that? Uh, next up is me. This is M service. >> Yes. Any questions about this? >> Any questions? Oh, >> we discussed the bees and the bats. Let's get that. That was slack. This is the high school. >> So >> potential for uh experiential learning >> biology class. >> No hands on. >> No, not not when not when rabies could be affected. All right. Try HR. Any questions? Network system here on F a service. Any questions? >> This is the resume. >> Yes. D questions emergency policy nothing applies to others action but that's just discussion number yes discussion This needs to be action. >> Oh, okay. >> We take action. >> A is action. It is action. >> A is action. >> All right. A is action. Emergency operation plan. >> Motion to
110approve the test emergency operations plan. >> Second. Move and second. Any discussion? All in favor? I oppose. Um, next up in discussion is uh discuss Oh yeah. You remember is that it >> confidential? >> All right. Uh okay. Now this is the candidates. Who are the two people are going for that? >> No, this is for the right their overall election for their candidate. Correct. So they were all unattested. That was the email that was sent out for you guys to look at their speeches and their backgrounds, but they're all uncontested. >> Oh, okay. >> So, I'll send in the vote for on behalf of the board, but they're >> all right. Thank you. Uh, is there anything else? I still didn't see >> board comments. Any comments? >> I have a comment. >> Okay,
111good. >> I just want to make mainly aware that this month is cle cell awareness month. Um, cickle cell is a blood disorder that um affects the hemoglobin and I just want to make um the public aware of it. Um the biggest thing with a cickle person is when they go to the hospital a lot of times have problems because people think they want to get drugs. So we're just trying to make the community aware of sickle cell. Um this past Saturday we did a walk. We had over 70 walkers that walked um to support circles. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? >> I would just like to acknowledge our grandmother who came out uh today. Thank you, ma'am. What's your name again, please? >> Cheryl Hawkins. >> Mrs. Hawkins. want to thank you for
112for coming out and to let you know that this board takes uh your concern fairly seriously and um if there's you can maybe have an offline conversation uh with Dr. Willis or some others or um if there might be some other solutions that you might be able to to explore so that your student is not arriving home so late. Is that the concern? And certainly I guess are they being picked up at the regular time and they're just on the bus for that long? That's what I was there um called that split bus route. They pick the kids up from Sarah Linder and take them home and then they go back towards >> and um pick those kids up and that's what he's on. >> So they're inside the building. not standing out just and
113that's the same problem. So yeah, I go get my luck here being able to do that. But it get like 5:30 tends to be a pain, but messes whole dinner plans trying to get homework done too. She's already lost it by that point. So >> are we doing anything like for kids who are are waiting I mean in like after school >> like in way of programming or homework or something usually I'm sure in the cafeteria waiting for their buses so they could absolutely do their homework while they're waiting but there are staff there but is there like organized programming for them there'll be the buses at any time to come when they're loading going on >> any given day uh supervision varies teachers some are give their time to stay because they don't have
114to contract actually and we are compensating them if they do choose to do that but they don't have to so like every day varies what available to be able to time probably institute like some type of program that but I mean but they can't take their work out um anybody else I just want to give a shout out to a shout out to the uh the grounds crew. They have did a tremendous job on that softball film by S Lu. I'll give a shout out to them. And also I'll give a shout out to the uh I stopped by the high school with the lunch to make adjustment and how they working out of the concession stand and getting everything together. So I want to give a shout out to them also. They did a
115fantastic job doing that. Yeah. Uh something else that's uh I mentioned to uh Dr. Will business manager in HR with I'd like to see more done with the uh credit the schools that give us the credit for academic credit because at the V tech we pay for the classes mostly up front some of it but after they finish I'd like for I should put something in place to get more people involved that that we pay after you get their grades. How do we go about doing that? Is that the policy we have to have? Is that >> so paying up front? >> No, not pay up front. >> Some of the colleges I think Wilson offer that we had an opportunity to go look and we we do offer that. >> So now, so now
116they don't have to pay. >> They have it actually for a while. So, >> so we're working with the union leadership because it's actual language in the CBA >> and they don't I mean once they finish the class, they pass the class, do they have to pay to get reimbursed? >> They would still have to get paid to get re >> they have to pay for the class >> out of their pocket. >> So the com the Wilson town and I believe Millersville allows for a deferment, >> right? meaning that they don't have to pay until they finish the course. >> So, we are going to allow that through anou with the union. They will still have to they will still have to pay for the course, but they don't have to pay until after
117they're done with the course. >> That's what I want to get. I don't know. >> No. So, so we actually pay we we send the money to them and then they pay the course. So, so it's what you're asking is is being done. So you're saying that the the person doesn't have to come out of pocket, right? >> That is correct. That is what we're doing. >> All right. All right. Because they do that because we do that money in so many words, okay? That's what they do. And I asked that question there, too. But that's that's what it so we can do that now. So some of the the people that Okay, if that's taken care of, I don't have to worry about that. >> And it works. >> That was one of the
118things I wanted. Uh, and they're, um, when I say a shout out, the other thing I wanted to say to, uh, to the buildings and grounds, they also have doing a fantastic job on the the sidewalk that goes all the way in front of the building, in front of the high school. Well, they got that edged out and I and I thank them for doing that because uh, people do walk and it it just looks a lot better. they built that and although they had a guy that was down. So I just want to give a shout out because sometime we overlook those those folks and um you can pass it on that I did say but most time I I do right so what else question do we have any those stickers I know
119that that's been taken over by do we have any for our personal like >> yes yes we have some the stickers. >> The advocate group for your signs. >> Yeah, you got the stickers. >> We do have stickers to give out. You need them tonight. >> Yeah, I need >> Oh, I need some. >> Uh, I think that's about it. >> Mr. Johnson S. Johnson, I tried to get you out to start your parents game, but as long as you would let me, man. [Laughter] So, uh, now it's that time. Can I get that motion to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Move and second. All in favor? >> I never. Good night.