001All right. Um, good evening everyone. I'd like to call the November 18th of the Ashland Board of Health meeting to order. Okay. The first thing on our agenda is citizen participation. Do I have anybody for citizen participation? I don't see any hands raised. So, we'll move on to the next thing. Um, so Raj, I think the next thing on our agenda is from Cirrus Apartments. I believe they are not going to attend tonight. We got an email. Is that correct? >> That is correct, Chief. But a couple couple of updates on the board for the board on that. I can I can brief the board. >> Okay. Go ahead. Go go go ahead Raj. >> Thank you. So, u I did get couple of emails from them, right? Uh stating uh what what been done
002and there is there is a new dumpster that that been placed in the in the back that have a cover, right? I I did two inspections from the time that's in place. Uh both the times the cover was not on. So but did send a email to the management. Uh but was little weird question that I got back today from them saying that they was not told to keep the cover on you know uh that I'll be addressing. The other thing is you know the concrete pad is still not on. So I don't know I mean how much time board want to give them more you know uh that's that's another question for the board. I I was there today uh she did mention in the email today that you know they're still working on
003it but it's up to the board you know how much time more time if we need to give it to them to have have the have a concrete pad or you know impervious surface. >> All right. Um [clears throat] so I I'll be kind of looking for board comments on this. I know we gave them till tonight uh to rectify and get things um into compliance but if you want to Raj what's your thoughts or suggestions? So definitely from my end right it's going on for a couple of years you know it's uh at least that's more than a year now right uh we we can give them maybe another two weeks or so you know to comply with it you know at the max but they need to get going you know we can
004have this lingering you know at least uh from uh from the standpoint of the rodents and all that >> um I'm okay with giving them two more weeks Any does anybody else anybody else have any concerns or think that's good to go with that? >> I'm fine with giving them another two weeks. I guess my question is what let's say two weeks goes by and they're still out of compliance. You know what what what power do we have that we have not already exercised to um get them into compliance? >> Mr. men that'll be citations right I mean they they're in violation of the housing code you know uh that we can issue citations the last citation I had to them was last month you know I have given them a $100 citation that was
005uh non-compliance with with the housing code you know they they have overflowing dumpster you know so um this is again uh a violation of the housing code so we we we can we can do that you know Sure. I mean, I'm fine with you continuing to issue citations until they're in in compliance. I think that's fine. >> Thank you. >> Does the citation increase in value or is it $100 every time? >> No, sir. So, the first citation is $100. After that is $200 and 300 and they can be citation every day till till they're compliant. So >> yeah, I would say let's see where we are in two weeks and and if there's no progress and they're not back in compliance, then um then we will then we should notify them that that's what's
006going to happen. >> I I will do that, sir. Thank you. And Dr. You're saying you can't unmute you unmute >> Laura try if you can unmute Dr. J. Yeah. here here we go sir. >> Can you hear me now Raj? >> Yes we do. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what happened. Yeah, I I agree with the um Sorry, I was distracted with that, but um I I agree with the citation plan, Raj. >> Sure. Thank you. >> Okay. Um >> it looks like there's a a hand up. >> Yeah, I know. I just saw that and I can't I can't see who it is because I'm on my phone and it's so small. I I wish I could get it back on my computer. Um, >> Chief, the name is Laura Romney.
007Yeah. >> Okay. Um, can we get her to Laura? Can we have Can you unmute her so we can see what her question is? >> Hey, can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Oh, great. Hey, I I couldn't get to the hand quick enough for the public comment and so I just I'm I'm here to comment about the cratom um discussion. So I I'm happy to speak whenever you are up to, you know, if you want to wait until you address that issue or now or you just let me know. Um and I know I've got a couple other people I I've got one other person I know that's trying to um you know do public comment. So I just didn't know when we can actually comment on that. >> Chief, you want me to
008answer that chief? >> Yes. >> No, we uh we are not taking any comment for creative today, you know, we've just it's just me updating the board, you know. So there's no discussion on this today. >> Okay, no problem. So just just to let you know that I did send you an email today and so I just encourage you to look at that email and reach out to me with questions because there's lots of good information. I'm a creative educator and I can really help answer a lot of questions. I've done that in Massachusetts to several other boards of health. Anyway, I'll let you go, but I appreciate you letting me know and I'll look forward to hearing from you. >> Absolutely. No, I'm I'm sorry I was not able to respond. I had multiple
009multiple emails, but >> No, that's okay. We'll be responding back, you know. >> Awesome. Thank you very much for your help. >> And and it will be on a future agenda also. >> Oh, good. Good to know. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Bye. Hi. >> Okay. So, the next thing on our agenda, Raj, is the nicotine free generation discussion. And I know Jay had some comments on this also. >> Yeah, I can I can start. Um, and yeah, I guess I guess I can just start with the select board meeting. I watched that and thanks for sending it, Raj. Um, actually watched the recording even before you sent it and I know that you and and Dave were there. Um, and just I guess to recap that in no particular order, my my
010take on what was said there, maybe some of the concerns. I mean, I think everybody feels the same way that these products are certainly harmful. I don't think anybody would argue about that, but what I took away from hearing the select board were a few concerns. One was um that there are already legislative actions at the state level on this. And I think that the question was, do we move ahead? Do do any comm does any community um move ahead knowing that there's going to be a patchwork of regulations in place until the state really makes a decision as to how how they want to approach this or not. Um, you know, and I'm really paraphrasing what came out of that meeting, but basically relating to these regulatory islands that might form if certain communities
011are creating regulations and others are not. Um so related to legislative action um does the town of Ashlin, you know, want to create regulation versus the direct democracy approach which is what was used in in Brookline that came up. Again, no answers to these, just concerns that had come up. Um and then the question of overregulation, government overreach. Um and again, I'm paraphrasing. Those were not the words that were used, but it was related to that. And um so I don't disagree with with what was said at the select board meeting, but for me I think the question for our board is really is this consistent with the mandate of the board of health? Um and Ashlin and I'll tell you as I read just go to my notes here. Um, as I read through
012the Mass Association of Health Board, um, of health boards, the guide book entitled Duties of Local Boards of Health in Massachusetts, I can't make any real clear connection between um, the nicotine-free generation and public health protection. The way I read this guide book um and what I have always thought for the last four years of being on this board was that we're talking about the prevention uh preventing the spread of communicable diseases, ensuring safe food, water, housing conditions, managing environmental hazards and waste disposal, licensing, inspecting establishments that serve the public, addressing um nuisances that may be injurious to health. Um and Dr. Rich, you know, had mentioned some of these, you know, asbestous and lead paint, um, environmental toxins, um, pesticides, things like that. So, that's what I see as our traditional mandate. And, you
013know, is this going outside of that? I tend to think I tend to think that it is, but, um, I just figured I'd start the conversation with that and, uh, open to hearing what the other members think. Um [clears throat] I I agree with Jay's last point especially. Um my perspective is that while I would love to live in a world where nobody uses tobacco or nicotine products. Um there are also a lot of things that I would like to see in the world that I don't have the right to tell other people what to do. Um, and while there might be room to argue that this board um could and possibly even should um essentially abolish the use of tobacco or nicotine products from some arbitrary point in time forward. Um, I I do
014think it goes too far. We have we have laws and regulations on uh the books right now that are intended to do what I think is a prudent thing with regard to public health, which is to keep uh young people from beginning uh what will almost certainly be for them a lifelong habit of of nicotine use if they start at that age or at least something that they have to fight to to um to escape. And um you know the laws are intended to prohibit them from making those kinds of decisions until they become adults. And in our society um you know we we allow people to do a lot of things that while we may not agree with and while they certainly wouldn't be um advisable for that person's health or so forth um
015we still let them do it. Uh and um in another context, you know, we just came out of COVID and all of the restrictions around COVID and um I think that it is not unreasonable to suggest that um public attitudes about our institutions um including those intended to protect public health has deteriorated. um in large part because most people see what happened during COVID and the restrictions as going too far. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I think there's an education problem there and they don't understand what the purpose was. We were also, you know, making up the rules in the middle of of that situation when we had incomplete information. But regardless, um, my one of my chief concerns is to try to not erode that trust any further by going so far
016as to tell adults of a certain age what they can and cannot do when it is when it only affects them and their health. Um, you know, we have a lot of the regulations around smoking are intended to protect people from inhaling secondhand smoke because somebody else is smoking. And so I think that that is a reasonable thing to do. But to tell an adult what they can and can't do um is is is a is a is a step that we should only take when it is clearly necessary. And I'm not convinced that that is the case uh with the nic nicotine or tobaccof free generation um approach. Um and I think also um [clears throat] we had discussed that um this most likely also is not a board decision. Um it's not feasible
017for five of us to make a decision for the whole town. And I think once we see any state legislation or if this is something we want to pursue, then this should probably be something that gets voted on by the um community. Thoughts on the board? Yeah. I mean, so my understanding is the way that it went down, the way it was explained um to us um at the presentation was the way that it went down in Brooklyn was that um I'm not sure the backstory of the board of health's involvement there or uh but that it went to town meeting citizens uh petition direct democracy. They voted on it and it, you know, I think uh I think it went to the Supreme Court uh state supreme court and uh withtood legal challenge and
018I'm assuming that's because it had the backing of the residents in Brooklyn. So, um I don't see why one would want to deviate from that approach. um aside from you know going through a board of health is is obviously going to be easier to have a regulation but but beside that um I thought that when we were approached you know maybe that was the direction that people wanted to take it was to go to town meeting um so you know but still I keep coming back to is is it really consistent with the mandate of our board of health and I I just don't see the connection I mean that's that's what I keep coming back too. >> Yeah, I agree that if if the if the residents if that's what the residents of town
019decide that they want, then that is totally fine by me. Um I'm just not I'm not comfortable with the idea of making that decision for everybody else. >> Right. Yeah. I mean I that and that's how you know I think that it worked in in other communities like Brookline which is sort of the the flagship in this regard right um that the board of health implements it and enforces it um and supports it after it's approved at town meeting. So and I think that we would do the same we would do the same. Um, any other comments? So, what Jay, what would our next steps be at this point then? Do we wait for state information, which could take a long time, or I'm not sure. >> Um, I'm not sure either. I mean, my
020understanding is that citizens can petition if they would like. Um I you know it's too late to get that on into this town meeting but I think the next one is in what the spring and I'm not quite sure how that if it they need a 10 signatures or is it 10 um to get that on the petition or is it 100 I forget maybe it's 100 for special town meeting but I I admit that I don't know the process but if interested residents were interested in pursuing it that way it would go toward to town meeting as a bylaw a bylaw proposal. So I So Raj, maybe um if you could um report back to the town manager and the select board that we feel as a board of five, this is really not
021our decision to make and um maybe even a joint meeting with them to talk about next steps. >> I will definitely do that, Chief. you know. Yes. I I'll bring bring this over to them. >> Are you all good with that idea? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Great. >> Perfect. All right. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Any additional comments on that or should we move on? >> Okay. >> All right. So, the next thing on the agenda is um Raj's report. >> Thank you, Chief. Uh so [clears throat] first with the tobacco violation that as the board knows we we did had a sale to minor uh violation at Main Street Wines and Spirits. U I did had issue a $1,000 fine that is paid uh since the since the violation happened and um did get
022an email from Mr. Goldberg that I've sent to the board. you know his son is getting sworn in today so he was not able to attend the meeting today so we have to bring him in front of the board uh in the upcoming meeting so uh we did look when I went to the store to give him the letter and the violation uh he did we did check the video uh recording you know it since it's a new employee you know that have done the mistake you know so and he he'll explain more you know what what transpired and what's what's the next steps you know so but that that's what I know so far but the violation for $1,000 is paid uh the open gov online permitting update you know so we was working
023from 6 months or even more right on on the open gov software the permitting part is is working good Laura is doing wonderful work you know all our applications to anybody we permit went through the open go now uh we still had some challenges with with the uh inspectional software you know so I have spoken to to the management and and and the we working with Doug and the open gov team uh we might not pursue uh the uh inspectional software with them anymore you know so we might be using that for some something else with with the town uh on that you know so the next item is metrics uh that I want to brief or we have spoken earlier also Right. That that's the software the state at the DPH is developing for
024for all the 351 communities in in in Massachusetts. So we'll probably be adopting or getting that software that that will be available to us free of cost you know and uh we'll be probably doing our inspections on that you know until till June 2026 right we have uh the relevant software that uh that is paid from the grant. Mr. Mr. suburban you know it right you adopted it when you was here right so we we working on that uh state might not and right now like we have three licenses two food and one one housing that uh we we are getting it paid through our share services grants right it's a $1,800 per license right around $5,400 that we pay every year for for that permitting hopefully if the if the state extends that we
025might keep that or otherwise we might switch to metrics you know so that for right now. This is where we are. uh did attend the MHA conference from November 5th and 7th and I did attend one of the sessions you know on NFG also there you know at at the conference and kam and 7u we've got multiple multiple emails I guess there are couple of emails has come through from the time we started the meeting and I've sent uh the emails to the board you know that's something we need to discuss other thing Mr. Pari who is who is our tobacco control uh manager from Framingham right we are part of that group he's also on the on the meeting today you know this this afternoon this evening he he was checking like how many
026of our vendors are selling catum he been to 12 of the vendors this evening and he have found like two of the vendors are selling catum you know and I don't know Dr. J if you want to update anything uh to the board on that you know uh >> um >> it's a well it's a longer discussion so you know I don't know if you want to get into it I I sent everybody or maybe I sent it to you to distribute Raj uh basically like a desk reference of where things stand with all of theratom stuff orratom as some people uh pronounce it um but with regard to the the not only the pharmarmacology and science, but the regulations and um the uh meetings that went on in over the summer between the uh
027FDA and the DEA and Department of Health and Human Services at the federal level. So, this is being considered at the federal level. It's being considered at the state level. There are like a ton of bills in at the state level. There's like five. Um I don't think anything's going to move on that probably until 2026. uh it could be as early as tomorrow but I think 2026 and the and the basic question is whether or not um at the state level there uh we will be allowed to be using and selling leaf uhratum powder vers and um it looks like there'd be a ban on the seven hydroxy um product which is the concentrate and that's what most people are concerned about. So, it looks like it's kind of headed in that direction, but
028you know, if you want to just wait and discuss it on, you know, in December, we'll have, you know, a regular agenda item for it, we can. But, um, you know, and I and I'm happy to answer any particular question because, like I said, I've done work in this area for quite a while. So, >> and Mr. kingsmen have sent us to two of the you know plant legisl legislations that's going on you know so and I did speak to Mr. Pari you know who's a tobacco told my manager right so right now it's it's just considered as a herbal product right it's not sitting nowhere within our regulations with tobacco right now right so I mean we did had our compliance checks last month you know all the 17 vendors got got checked right
029so I mean that's that's right now that you know till till board decides anything or you know anything comes from the state you know this is where we are you know >> right and and and just to be clear There there there are two different things. There's the the concentrated 7 hydroxy metroine which is the the chemical that people feel is you know the harmful product. Um and then there's metrogenine which is the um non-active parent molecule in the leaves. And there are vendors that are selling the concentrated product. And what people that use this product, advocates for uh the leaves themselves are are fighting to keep available um just the leaves and so you know the the natural product itself. And so um you know whatever is being sold out there like I went
030to one place today in Ashland just to see if they had it and I sent you the email Raj and and to you too. had just afforded it to you and um you know that those would be if if if the state legalizes the leaves then they would in full compliance cuz that's all they were selling basically. So I don't know what Perry has seen um you know Perry you can certainly tell us you know what what the products actually are but um that's what I saw anyway. Oh hi. Um yeah, I went uh this evening after speaking to the director and had a quick visit uh to 12 stores. I found uh mostly I didn't see any um tablet or capsule or powders. I saw the energy drink form of um with this with
031its botanical name. Um as per the state law as of now synthetic is banned. um there is no um law concerning to natural cratom um so it is up to the board now um and as we don't have any adult only store Nashland um because I had in my experience I had seen this seven hydroxy uh product only in adult only stores not in most of the convenience stores or non-age restricted stores um yeah that is where we are now >> so you're you're saying that the that the um 7 hydroxy concentrated product is banned in Massachusetts. >> If it is the synthetically derived product, then it is banned in Massachusetts. >> Well, it's it's always going to be synthetically derived. >> Yeah. So, if it that is the case, it is banned. It is
032not illegal in Massachusetts. >> Okay. I I didn't realize that. Yeah, >> I didn't realize that. Okay. Um I hope this >> and the products doesn't clearly say whether it is synthetically derived or naturally derived. and we don't know who's the manufacturer or they don't carry any manufacturers document like tobacco products. So uh and it doesn't come under my um scope so I'm not going deep into that. >> So right >> yeah and and I've only seen pictures of it on the web. I've never and you know if I've gone into a gas station whether I I kind of think I've seen some of these products like the energy drinks or whatever but I've never seen what we've seen on the web which is like the pills and things like that >> but I just
033don't >> you know I don't go into those places but um and now maybe it would make sense because >> there I was in Malber inspection today I was in adult store I saw seven hydroxy one product there but truly from my perspective a MLA person or a general public if it is for a medical uh use I would suggest to be that to be sold in a medical CVS or Walgreens or in a medical facility not in an adult store because 20 stool is for like energy drink or it's not like a medicinal store that's what I would suggest >> right right yeah I mean it's it's my opinion that the state is going to make a decision about this if not this year, it will be next year. Um, and you know, personally,
034I I I don't have a problem with the natural product being available for people cuz I think, you know, based on everything I've read, it's it can be extremely helpful for people. Um, you know, and it seems like everybody's on the same most people are on the same page with regard to the synthetically derived product. >> Okay. So I work for 16 communities under this uh MTCPH uh tobacco control program and uh most communities have um banned or prohibited the sale of cratom like Westboro prohibited the sale of next Malber has gone for prohibiting the sale of so within the 16 communities I can see more communities going for the prohibition of irrespective of natural or synthetic just going for the prohibition >> right and I and they would still be allowed to do that
035even if the state were to >> take the hold of a transition >> for for me. I mean, just my my personal opinion, I I think that's kind of thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Um I I don't think that that level of ban is necessary based on what I know about this, but um and I'm happy to save that for the next time that we meet. >> I I haven't been on the board for as long as some people. Um but I so I so I asked the following question. Is it normal in a situation like this uh if we after not this discussion but the the next one where it's on the um the agenda um for a full discussion it could we is there a way for us to communicate to
036the state what type of outcome we would like to see and to to say that that you know we would prefer an outcome sooner rather than later because I I am aware that some issues for whatever the reasons can just linger in in uh you know bill form in the legislature and never never see the light of day or at least take longer than I think that they that it should to reach a decision. Is there is that something that we would normally do like write a letter to our representatives or I mean obviously we can do that as private citizens but is that something that a board of health would normally do in a situation like this as well or not? >> I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do that Dave.
037I haven't done that. I haven't, you know, experienced that on the board. Um, but I I don't see why not. And yeah, I agree. It would be nice if if there was a decision made sooner than later. All right. Anybody else? >> Right. So, Raj, I guess you continue on. >> Thank you, Par. you know, I appreciate you going out so quickly and getting that numbers to me and you know your input on this. U one thing I want to ask right please keep an eye you know if anybody in Ashland is going to sell 70oh right we definitely want to keep an eye I I will also do some spot inspections right in in case you find something like that please bring it to our attention you know even though >> we'll be discussing
038this next meeting you know but we're still going to keep an eye on that right >> sure I'll do that thank you so appreciate it [clears throat] so next chief is the drug takeback we have a very successful full drag takeback day that was hosted by our police department at the community center on October 25th. Uh with the beaver dams, uh we did had a complaint about the beaver dams [clears throat] and we actually found four of them. Uh uh I went with Becca uh conservation agent. Um so we we found one one beaver dam under under the cover that's under the tracks. So she reached out to the to the railroad authority, right? They took care of that. One one of the dams was uh on town property and then there was two of
039them u one [clears throat] one was u I guess the property of seven Harper Lane and then uh one uh on the property of 7T house street. You know this information I got from Becca. So the the issue is still there. We are working on it right. uh though given the town properties involved there definitely beavers there so keeping an eye and in case we need to issue a emergency permit we'll will will do that to take care of that problem [clears throat] the clinics are going well these are the clinics with the with the pharmacy we already had five clinics so far this this season tomorrow is the sixth clinic uh we had 49 uh shots on October 30th 24 on October 27th, 15 on October 29th, and 88 vaccines on November 12th. Uh,
040one clinic we did it at uh at the community center, and we'll continue this. This is in addition to our Wednesday and Thursday clinics that we do at the town hall, you know, that are the childhood vaccine clinics. These are um these clinics are done by the Pinehill Pharmacy and we just hosted a town hall [clears throat] with the unpermitted chicken situation. 237 Pleasant is still with conservation. The Donna have reached out again uh to to the property owner or the person they have not applied with the conservation so far. So we're working on that. Uh with our housing cases, uh we picked up a couple of new cases at at the Chestnut Place Apartments. Uh one was 19A join drive number 3A that I've got compliance on it. U all the items other than
041the pests uh are resolved. You know, we did had couple of pest control reports from them. Uh but last week we did pick up a case in building 8 u that was uh infested with roaches and some mice activity. U we did issue a letter on that. Uh the same week we had another one in the same building. a little concerned with the past activity at at uh the Chestnut Place Apartments. So though uh and I had couple of uh inspections at that dumpster also both time it was not good, you know. So I'm I'm going to keep the board informed how how this this going to be going, you know. Uh 49 Cherry Street that that's the case that we was in front of the board last time. Uh Mr. Robert who's who's who's
042the property manager of the or the person from the agency. So the occupant is still there though it seems there was a eviction uh that was granted by the court but he's still there. I have forward the board the email from him. Uh but we'll we'll we'll table it for the next one you know. Hopefully uh we have that resolved by then you know and I'm sorry I missed the monkey pox advisory. So there was an ad in advisory from the board that you know from from DPS that have sent uh we we did see an uptick in the number of cases you know that we picked up the 34 cases this year in Massachusetts for monkey poxin virus I guess we already have couple of frosts you know so total nine westile cases uh
043this year we did pick up one late late uh no triple E cases that's very good news you know And I guess we did see one animal case for rational virus [clears throat] with the disease investigation. Uh two TB cases that we are actively working. We did pick up one case of an acute uh H A no bad C you know that we are working on you know so and I'm open open to any questions from the board now. Does anybody have any questions for Raj? >> Nope. >> No. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you for that update, Raj. Um, so [clears throat] the next thing on our um agenda is the approval of the consent agenda, which will be in the consent agenda is the review and approve the fiscal year 26
044year-to- date budget report and the meeting minutes from October 21st. Do I have a motion? So moved, Ed, >> and I'll second it. Um, any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I That's unanimous. Laura, >> um, [clears throat] next thing on the agenda is um, discuss future agenda items. Tobacco regulation violation, hearing tobacco regulation, review the well regulation review, approval of the 2026 permit renewals and grease trap waiverss. That's on our next agenda. Um, if anybody has anything that you want added, reach out to Raj and Laura. Um, does anybody have any new business or any other discussion items? >> Just a question. Are we um are we meeting in person for those December meetings? >> I I did Raj I think we said the December 2nd meeting was that correct was going to be
045in person. >> See if I don't recall but >> Well, why don't we do this? Should we see how much of an agenda we have and then we can make a decision? Do you Does that sound reasonable to everybody or do you want to just make a decision tonight? I I I only asked because I noticed that I I forget where I saw it. Maybe it was on the town website, but they had this meeting listed as through Zoom and then the next couple meetings it didn't have the link. Now, maybe that's just how we do it. We don't post the link until >> No, sir. Yeah, you're you're right. So, we we finalized this, you know, couple of days before we post it, right? So, >> okay. >> But again, it's up to the
046board, you know. We we are fine right away, you know. So, >> so why why don't we do this? Um, I'll when we get closer to the December 2nd meeting, I'll have a discussion with Raj. If there's not a big agenda, we'll do Zoom, but if there's a larger agenda, we'll plan to do it in person. >> Okay. >> Does that sound okay to everybody? >> Yeah. >> Great. Yeah. So, right now, as of right now, our next meeting is December 2nd. >> Okay. Um, if if nobody has any new business, I will seek a motion to adjourn. >> We've got a hand up. Dad, >> oh, >> looks like Dave, >> someone has a question from the Laura. Can you >> Yes. Good evening. >> Yeah, we can hear you. >> Oh, how's it
047going? Uh, I am a new owner of a pizza business at 9 Homer a in Ashland and I had some issues with the board of health and I went to the town hall and spoke with Raj and Laura and they told me to attend today. >> Raj, can you update us on what's going on? if I I don't know if there was a required to to be here. So, this was a couple of weeks back, right? There was uh Tom was out for a reinspection that we did on on the previous establishment and we found a new owner. Uh it was closed because of that, you know. So, u I I don't know, Mr. David, was that you that came in or was that your son? >> No, that was me. >> Okay. So, we
048have not required you to be here on the meeting, you know. I don't know where that came from, but uh I mean I know I are you going to be doing the renovation now or >> We are We are currently doing a renovation and changing the name of the business. So, I'm going through the through the uh building department and applying for the uh food permit and all those things. just just to let you know we you need our approval for the changes you know before before you do any work you know so just want to be clear on that >> okay I'm here whatever you need >> yes we're going to be needing the plans or you know cut sheets of any equipment you're going to be bringing in or changing you know so
049I know you have submitted some part of it but we're going to need uh cut sheets you know whatever changes you're making need to be on the plan so we not submitted >> I submitted all the equipment that I mean a lot of the uh most of the equipment are just you know uh prep tables and I have a couple sandwich fridges and the thing the new equipment that I bought I have already submitted to the portal >> just to let you know sir yeah you cannot buy equipment till it's approved you know but I will look at it and get back to you you know >> okay >> right but yes you are not required from our side uh to be on this meeting you Okay, perfect. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Yeah.
050And Raj, maybe if you could reach out and give him some assistance, you know. >> Absolutely, Chief. You know, >> that'll be great. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> All right. Um, that being said, um, I will look for a motion to adjourn. >> I will make a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> Thanks, Barbara. >> Okay. Second. All in favor? I >> I see you all in December. >> All right. >> Thank you very much. Have a good night. >> Happy Thanksgiving. >> Yes. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Thanksgiving. >> Thank you. >> Byebye.