2026 - June 8th WSD School Board Meeting - Part 1

001All right. Chairperson um uh Sandals >> here. Members Ruland here. >> Bryant >> here. >> Candace Eisenbr and Shell present. >> All right. Number three allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Number four of reflection or prayer. You have anything tonight? >> Yeah. I'm reading from James 1 verse two. It says, "Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will

002be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blowing and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do. >> Thanks, Number five, conflicts of interest. We got any tonight? If none, we're going to move on to number six, approve agenda. actually make a motion to amend the agenda. Need to move in the consent agenda the approval of committee assignments to item number 27. We have >> any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. All oppose same sign. Motion passes to approve the amended agenda. to amend the agenda. >> Number seven, approve consent agenda. We'll >> make a motion to

003approve second consent agenda. >> Second. >> You have a motion and a second. All in favor say I. >> All oppose. Same sign. Motion passes to approve the amended consent agenda. It's the proper verbiage there, right? you needed to move a motion to approve the amendable. >> Yeah, we need like two motions for the agenda and the be but that's >> it's all right. Well, with that we're going to go on to number number eight if we don't need anything else open forum. Do we have any open forum tonight? No open forum. Okay. Uh with that, we'll move on to number nine, student presentation, recognition of student of the most. >> Well, we don't have any uh presentations tonight being June, but I just wanted to recognize um he did this at graduation and he

004did when the kids were still here, but our May school student of the month was Lacy Reiner. And our May high school student of the month was younger Amy. So, good job to those kids. Okay. All right. With that, we're going to go on to number 10, cheerleading presentation. Kelsey Clark, you got the mic. >> Thank you. Well, good evening everyone. Those of you who may not know me, I'm Kelsey Clark. I currently have a middle school, an elementary school, and a future student within the Wall School District. For quite a few months now, I've heard comments from individuals throughout the community about the possibility of adding cheerleading to our school's current activities following the discussions and ultimately the elimination of the gymnastics program. I'm not sure the validity of these comments, I'm here tonight

005to express my support for the possibility of adding a cheerleading program. First, I want to acknowledge how proud I am of the opportunities our school already provides for our students. We have successful athletic programs, a variety of fine arts and academic clubs, enthusiastic student sections, dedicated fans, and tremendous school spirit throughout our community. However, I believe adding a cheerleading program would build upon that strong foundation by increasing student involvement, promoting school pride, and creating an even more positive atmosphere at events. As written in the South Dakota High School Activities Association Sideline Cheer Handbook, participation in school activities teaches that it is a privilege and an honor to represent one school. Participants learn to accept success and failures, gain poise and confidence, achieve tolerance and understanding of others, and gain self-satisfaction of accomplishing goals. Under a

006well-administered school program, students and spectators become better citizens through participation and observation of activities conducted under established rules. Cheerleading has become one of the most popular activities in America. On game nights, students, parents, and fans alike gather on the sidelines to show overwhelming support for student athletes. This is not simply about winning or losing, but about fostering an environment for positive school spirit. Although sideline cheer is not a South Dakota High School Activities Association recognized sport, it is a support activity for those South Dakota High School Activities competitive sports. Cheerleaders serve as crowd leaders, spirit raisers, ambassadors, athletes, and entertainers. Through their energy and enthusiasm, they encourage fan participation, boost morale, and help create an exciting game day atmosphere. Cheerleaders also promote sportsmanship by encouraging students and spectators to follow Wall and South Dakota High

007School Activity Association codes of conduct and can help discourage any inappropriate fan behavior. Cheerleaders can participate in pep rallies, pregame activities, timeouts, halftime performances, and postgame events. This involvement enhances the overall game day experience for athletes, students, and spectators. As noted in the Wall School District activities handbook, student participation in extracurricular activities has been linked to improved attendance, higher academic achievement, and greater students self-confidence and self-esteem. Implementing a cheerleading program would provide students with another extracurricular outside of traditional sports while still promoting that character development. Cheerleading offers a unique combination of athleticism, teamwork, leadership, and school pride that encourages participation from students with diverse talents, interests, and abilities. Additionally, I feel cheerleading would support and enhance our current activities. Increasing student involvement at sporting events through programs such as cheerleading, choir, and band, we can

008increase attendance and positively impact admission and concession revenues. Another benefiting benefit of cheerleading is that it can be implemented with relatively low startup and operating costs. The equipment needs are minimal, primarily consisting of uniforms, palms, and basic safety equipment if needed. Cheerleading also requires very little little gymnasium or facility usage compared to other activities. This makes it a practical option for expanding student opportunities while being mindful of school resources. Cheerleading also offers a great deal of scalability. For example, the program could begin on a smaller scale, offering cheer for varsity football and varsity boys basketball. If interests and participation grow, the program could expand to include sideline cheer for sports such as JV boys basketball, wrestling, varsity and junior varsity girls basketball, or potentially even competitive cheer or dance teams. This phased approach would allow

009the district to build the program responsibly while meeting the interests of students. Unlike some other activities, cheerleading is flexible and often allow students to participate while remaining involved in other extracurricular activities. While I do not know the current level of interest among high school students, I do believe there is a good foundation for future participation. The success of the Black Hills Youth Football and Cheer League has introduced many elementary students to the activity and has helped build interest. The South Dakota High School Activities Association handbook states that cheerleaders must be in grades 7 through 12, which may be beneficial to support participation numbers during the first few years of the program. I'm not asking for an immediate decision tonight. Rather, I'm asking the board not to let this discussion fizzle out and to explore the

010feasibility of a high school cheerleading program to gather input to determine whether there is sufficient interest and support. I already know of a couple businesses that would be happily donate to get the program started and I would gladly assist in any way necessary to support that effort. I appreciate your time, your service, and dedication to our school district and your consideration of this opportunity for our students. Thank you. body had any questions. >> That's agenda item. So we can keep talking. >> Yeah, we can talk on agenda item. Yeah, the only thing I would say is bring it to committee meeting a committee and we can explore it more on committee and get more numbers if they want to look in the numbers and request more information. Then >> I think we should talk about

011maybe sending out a survey parents >> for kids that have emails in grades 7 through 12. They can get an idea. >> They don't they don't have their computers right now. You can do it through the messaging. >> This not the first time. It was something we were visiting about when we were talking about the gymnastics leading is one thing that was this was brought up a couple of times. So >> I also like the idea you know sideline chair. So I approached state I asked Dan Sordos if if it was if we needed to do anything with the state. He said sideline cheer we could do whatever we want. We could start it as soon or as late as you want. Competitive cheer if we're planning on it would be next year. We would

012need to they need to know next month to get or not next month, next week. I think they have a meeting to get it going. But I like what Kelsey said about starting and moving things forward. Uh I I support boys and girls. That helps a little bit with that. um support when you start your stunting and such. This is not just a girl sport. So where I go with that is you really have to worry about it to get affected type of line type things. >> Can we start with a survey get the data from that meeting to the committee? >> Yeah, that would be good. I would like um maybe if Kelsey wanted to reach out to a few people who you know are interested and invite them to fill a survey out

013or maybe you just know the numbers ask around can we share a fly or two all the survey really easily on the app if you can convince people to read it and to respond maybe put it on >> yeah that's a good place to start all Thank you. Thank you, Kelsey, for coming in. Um, number 11 on the agenda tonight is world lead presentation. Ready? Look at that. Perfect. Well, thank you for having us here tonight. My name is Joe Benning. Uh I actually spent nine years on the 461 school board. Uh three of those years in a leadership capacity. I'm here with John Nightingale. He's a past 461 board member along with Daryl Big. He is another past 461 board member. and uh Mick Tras. Uh let me give you a little bit of

014back to why we're here. Uh about a year ago uh 461 was having some financial problems in our general fund and Mr. Tra and myself uh along with uh Mr. Wormstep the superintendent for 461, Justin Jing, their board chair and Dr. Graves with the uh secretary of education for the state of South Dakota. We sat down and tried to brainstorm how to fund these very rural schools in in be county and unfortunately we we left that meeting um with just an agreement to disagree on how schools should be funded uh sadly and Mick and I got to talking maybe that in 461 our relationship with Sturgis is so far stressed it best find a new partner and so we went to the Faith 462 school district. We talked to them. They had a little bit

015of interest in it and um they kind of looked at the scope and and and thought it was too much for them. So, we decided to come and present to you and see if if Wall would have any interest in it. Um would this make sense not only for us but uh for you to take this on? Um so that's kind of how we ended up here. Uh if you could hit the the second slide one. Uh so this is pretty much most of of me county. Uh 461 is the third largest school district in the nation by acres. Um and you can see from the little stars that this is historically where all of our rural schools um have been. And over the past 30 years they've kind of systematically closed. the demographics have

016changed and families move out of the area and branches and farms get larger. Uh we are currently down to uh just four schools left. We have Opal, Union Center, Elm Springs, and then Herford is left open. Uh could you go to the next slide for me? So, we got to talking about breaking off and finding a new partner. Uh, when we were working with Faith, nobody really wanted to draw a line on a map and say this is what should go. Uh, I ended up uh going to Ria Crane with the assessor's office and me county and I just drew a line straight from uh the view main county line straight down. Um, mostly this is just due to service area. I think if you're on uh my side of this line or if you're

017on the west side, you're going to go to Sturgis. If you're on this side, you're going to go to one of our federal rural schools. Um I there's a large argument that it should be larger than this. Um but that's just kind of the first starting point I went to. And so on the 2025 taxable valuations, you have almost $456 million in egg, another 10 million owner occupied, and another 4.5 and other. And what that, if you go to the next slide, I can kind of show you what that equates to. Sorry about the color. I have a little color blind here. uh but the top line is what we're going to be spending historically in the rule and the bottom is going to be um what we're generating in the rule. And so the

018big discrepancy of course is in the general fund. Um and in 2024 we spent $1.3 million to operate these rules schools. We only we only generated 579,000 and that's where the big argument really comes to be is in our general fund. Uh but if you look at capital outlay, we uh we used 65,000 towards these schools and cap and we generated 1.126 million. And to me it has always been kind of a symbiotic relationship. We use more in general fund here. We give it back in cap. Um, and then to the special ed fund, we spend about $100,000 in special ed generating another 612,000. Does it kind of make sense to everybody? >> And >> that is with those proposed acres that you're wanting to transfer. That's what you have. >> Correct. So with the

019with the map on on the previous one, that's what that generated. So this is all up in the air. big discussion if if where that line is drawn it's either going to more or it's going to be less. Yeah. Next slide. So what does that mean for for you if you decided to take us on? Um it would it would generate another $339,000 back to wall. that is on the very low because we're on all my numbers I'm figuring in the at all school and so you'd probably get you would be getting pretty close to about $500,000 back you'd gain 76 to85 students and you'd gain $470 million in taxable property along with another $500,000 in special should you choose to levy at that same level that school was closer please why Right. >> Yeah.

020>> The closure of the school of the atel school was this year. So it's not reflected in numbers. So >> at school still operating. >> Correct. Y >> I have a question just real quick on that. So at was closed. It wasn't a staffing issue, right? It was that was a decision made by the school districts itself. >> It was not a staffing issue. It wasn't a student decrease. um they had historically pretty good numbers. It just come down to an argument of we spend too much in the general fund here and so closing a school closure consolidation in the state of South Dakota and education and we can kind of see how that goes. So the next slide, sorry I tried to make this as as painless as possible. Um, so what we're looking

021for is is really somebody that wants to to partner with us that that thinks that children deserve an education regardless of of where they live is is important. Um, sadly we we've kind of lost that in our own school district and we've had many conversations and meetings with uh 461 superintendent and chair of the board and we're kind of on the same page that we need to get out of each other's way. Um, they they do seem open to the idea of of letting us go. Um there again finding that line on the map that doesn't hurt them as as much as probably this one does. There's a lot of moving parts. But that's just kind of a real down and dirty overview of what we're looking for. Um hopefully to start a conversation with

022your superintendent and your board if this is something you want to entertain or look into. So any questions? We can >> a question. You want us to ask questions or did you want to wait? >> You were going to give some directive at the beginning. >> Yeah. You said at committee meeting you were going to direct it. >> Well, I I do you know if anybody has any questions for clarifying, I think it would be great to go ahead and ask them to start here. Um my suggestion and I I won't be on the board for much longer, but uh I don't think that this is something that should go to committee if we need budget committee to talk and look at the numbers if we need buildings and grounds to look at what it

023would cost to maintain facilities like they can bring information but um my reasoning for that is you know we we're all on committees on committees you get a little bit of you get more information than the other guys have on the board. I would just assume everything be discussed just in an open meeting is is my preference. So, um whether you go with that or not, that's my recommendation. Everything everything discussing this being an open thing. Um so, anyways, if anybody has any questions though, I think you're free to ask a few if you just want some clarification. I guess I have one. Not sure exactly how to word this. I had all this up here. Why why would the me school district be open to letting you guys leave the district if if there's

024there's money on the table that they're going to give us? >> I'll answer that. >> Every every time they come up with a new closure wanting to close country school like last year. Yep. >> Um the time before that they got kind of slammed by quite a few um board members from the country. >> Yeah. >> And then there's a new superintendent and it's been a rollover. There's not a new superintendent right now. He's been working with us and being open to it. All he keeps saying is I know we're going to get hard hit hard in the capital outlay fund, but we got to find a line that will work. Um, our recommendation when Joe and I met with the state was it's not hard to take 400,000 500,000 from this fund and put

025it over. You still going to profit 400,000. But they also spent all the capital outlay money last year on a new turf football field, you know, two sessions later or whatever, closed down to school. And this fight has been going on with me. >> It used to not be quite as bad, but for 40 years we we've been messing with 50 years. But I know the last 26 or 28 it's been worse. And the main bite is 40 or 50 years ago Sturis was more of a conservative rural-minded town. It had a livestock sale barn. It had people going there. It had green elbert. Everyone was moving. Since then the me school district has now switched the vote and the majority of the thing is either in Sturgis which is a tourist rally town is

026is what generates the town or on the strip Pedmont Sunset Valley which want to build. So then you have meetings with thousands of people and it's I mean the budget in meat county is 29 million or >> 35 35. >> Okay. And uh I know over where you're going to spend the money, you have ranchers and country people who want to be conservative. And then you have the town that says, "I don't care. Raise taxes to the max. I rent my house. Raise taxes to the max and build the new football field, close." And then in open discussions or in open meetings in county, you'll hear people say, "I don't care. Close every country school. We want a new football field." Or stuff like that. So it's kind of gotten to the point where we

027want out and we want to find someone that's conservative or like-minded uh school district to go to. We tried Faith first because even based off of the map, we've order Faith a lot more. We want to stay together. Faith's interested in Opal or the area close, but they don't have the size of school or the budget or that to look at when they look on taking this big of an area. it's going to take fade from being one of the smaller school districts in the state to huge and they're worried about the distance and and that. So our view was the first Dr. B then hit wall and or Hawin County because of Border Hawkins on a strip. >> So you got are the three most conservative >> districts financially. you look at this and

028you go, "This is, of course, this is just makes sense to keep us take our money, just keep the schools open." Um, unfortunately, we we we've had a string of of superintendents that have pointed at our rural schools and just said that that's the problem. You know, that the problem is is out here. And so, it it's really turned kind of the whole hills area really against us. So, >> yeah. And we're not, you know, we just want to keep the schools open. You know, if if if you can take a portion of of Capital LA and transfer it over to the general fund to keep the schools open, I don't think anybody has a problem kicking three to5 million or three to $500,000 a year back into a school district. Um, it's just it's

029it's it's been going so poorly in the last 10 years. Um, I I think we we've just come to an impass. I mean, I'm I'm from this area. These two gentlemen are are from this area. We ran to try to improve relations and that didn't work. Um, and so we we've kind of come here to find a new dance partner, so to speak. So, um, and I I if if you guys do decide to entertain this, um, the way it works is you come up with a plan being with 461 and you hammer out all the details and then it goes to the communities to vote on whether or not to do it. Uh, I am 100% certain that everybody, not everybody, a large portion of of 461 will vote to kick us out because

030they they just heard this narrative for so many years that we're at detriment. We're at detriment. We're a detriment. And I mean, I I you guys figure it out in 30 seconds. It's it's not that hard. It's just math. So >> I had a question quick on your what what would be the debt service based on your >> so on the debt service um right off the top of my head I I think 461 is 20 million in the whole um that debt service is a fixed to our real property so we will have to pay it you won't so whatever you tax us whatever your mill levy is going to be uh the debt service for 461 will be on top of that. So to get out, we're going to have to pay. >>

031We're going to have that debt service through 2029, 2030. >> You're going to have to pay in some degree, but if you add that much land value to wall, you might not have to you're not going to want to build a new school every couple years and have a three mill, you know what I mean? Or however they set like in Sturgis, >> right? >> You're going to you're going to I don't know if it would over double your size. And you'd have to figure out what >> I don't know what I don't know bulk numbers at all >> the evaluation of >> but you're going to add a huge chunk of area in which longterm the way we have figured short term for us we're going to pay more in taxes we got to

032pay the debt plus whatever the mill levy is that's something people have to vote on their own if they want longterm I don't see wall if they're already making it work how they are right now and adding a huge more taxable area on you I mean long term it should lower taxes across the board. >> So are you saying am I understanding this correctly? >> So when I dance I like to leave just so that you know that. >> Yeah that's why we came here that's you saying with that paying more debt are both people going to have to pay the debt that you're >> it's tied to ours just and it's going to stay tied to you guys. tied to the land and >> it's paid off to me county. >> Correct. >> Got

033it. >> So we'll be paying that not you guys >> on top of whatever you mill. What it does for you guys is and this is something that we want we should have went to the faith community first before the board. That was a mistake. But we feel that this board's probably more interactive with the community. But when you have, let's say you have 400,000 acres or whatever here and you add another 400,000 in, you now have twice as many taxable acres to raise your mill for the money, you know, and that's the thing that Faith was having trouble with was they didn't want that big of an area. Their budget is here and >> and Faith was more Faith has a spare underneath the sparity. They lose their sparsity and they were they were

034so caught up on their sparsity. They were go with addition of the students they were going to lose their sparsity and they they just couldn't get past that. >> That we we receive sparity as well. >> Oh, you do? I didn't think well did. >> We do received >> we it's like in the 50s 56 I believe but we don't we're they're at a cap of students, right? So if they were to get the more students, they would lose the cap of the 137,000. Whereas we're not at that cap. We're over that student cap. >> So the addition of students only helps. >> That's why I asked you that square mileage question today is because square mileage works with >> and I I don't I never did figure out square mileage in this. I I

035think it's around 2,000 square miles somewhere in there. That would be a qu because that's our sparity funds are based on um we can go get over I think 400 students >> right >> and then we and it's based on our >> so what's your current student enrollment for last year >> so about 275 >> so that would you guys still be under the margin >> why we want to go as one piece >> uh we want to go in one piece He's just I I think there's more strength in that huge area. Um >> as far as getting away from Sturgis, we feel like we have a better chance of getting away from Sturgis if we all go at once versus >> split us up. Don't crucify us. >> You're talking like all the

036schools not sending like Opal North to Faith and everything else down. >> Right. We've had a lot of conversations about, you know, maybe they want to go to faith, maybe >> they may want to see it later, but we we got to get out as one piece. So, we're not going to get out. >> So, a question I have a question quick. You talked about visiting with faith in the community. We are all very involved in our community, but um have you guys met with the rural community there? Because with the taxes in the you know talked about paying more pay back >> either way, our taxes are going to go up because they keep on adding more shiny out. The difference in faith though, we didn't talk to the communities there because taxes wouldn't

037have necessarily went up because they're not capped on a mill levy for capital outlay. They're on a per student basis. And so even if they the most they could tax us for capital outlay was like 470ome,000. Yep. Whereas Sturgis right now is taxing us 1 million. So that's one thing that could throw a loop into you guys still too is dependent on your student numbers is you get switched over to a per student per cap. Does that big land mass help you or help the people in the area for lowering taxes or not? In Sturgeist, it's on a mill in and faith it got switched over and so that was part of it too. They weren't going to they weren't getting over a million in capital outlay. They were getting 400 some thousand, you know,

038and some losing 100. >> Does faith max levy in capital outlay? Do you know >> right now? >> So what does it max >> right? If if we would have joined, it would have >> property taxes would have property taxes still would have went down, but you would have had to do an opt out >> in order to do it. Which normally when you think of an opt out, you think of taxes going up, but their mill right now is like three mills. And if we would have joined and then went to the per student and then added this much more area, I think they said meaning it 1.8 was pretty low. And then so it really should have been they would have had to opt out of like two and a quarter mills versus

039the three to make a cash flow. But what I think what you're trying to ask hope is if we have met with our communities and yes we have that was when we was going to faith if you guys are interested we're planning we're going to plan another meeting to meet with the rural area people and let us know what we're working because >> obviously they met with their rural people because after that Wednesday night meeting I had several phone calls and all I could think about was graduation and things finishing here. I had no line. That's my question is with Felm Springs, obviously very close community up there as well. The open enrollment, we've seen them here for generations. Like it's kind of >> been alarming to me that we weren't getting property taxes and

040then hearing that it's all going to Sturgeis. Then obviously we've all been watching as a board too to see what's been happening with me county. So >> you're getting some kids out Union Center. Yeah. >> So it's because they're all K8 schools, right? Yep. Correct. >> And then it's always told Sally earlier I said for a long time it seems like it's kind of right in the middle so it depends if you wanted to rodeo you go to fades for high school and if you want to wrestle you go to Sturgeon for high school if you want to play football you come in high school but >> yeah what about um st one other I don't want to ask bunch of questions about one more staffing have you guys taught the rural staff >> I

041say would that come with or do I get to clean house or I'm just teasing but >> hopefully >> I mean if if if there was an appetite from this board to take it, you would also take the staff as well. I we have some phenomenal teachers. Um and and you know, and I'm married one I'm I'm married to a rural teacher and you know, they care about their students and and their where they work and where they live and I think they would want to stay. I mean, you could come in and you could clean house. It's just it's it is a challenge to find certified staff that wants to come out and teach in a in a rural setting. There's not a lot of places to live. Um you kind of be reliant

042on them marrying down ranchers and >> there's a little bit of appeal though that this comes kind of already furnished. >> Um >> and the benefit to that is I I spent nine years on the school board reinvesting. Um so the schools are in good shape. We built a new one in Union Center here. >> That was my next question. If we don't have to service the debt, you guys do when it comes time when you guys are done paying it off, do we does this school district by or school district own those schools? >> Yeah. >> Y >> even though we didn't pay for them. >> Correct. Great. >> What about principal? Your rural principal from my understanding is now split. >> No, they combined them. >> Right. Well, right. Scott Whitewood. >> Yeah,

043she split with Whitewood and Ral in 2019 2020. We split the position because it was one person couldn't service both places adequately and it worked really great. And then they decided, well, budget cuts. >> Yeah, >> they were willing to cut in my position, they were willing to cut $50 to to throw $500 away to save 50 bucks. So this year, right up until about the last two months of school, she was halftime principal, halftime, uh, educator, >> teacher, um, >> intervention teacher. Um, really good, really good service. Um, we had an issue with, uh, principal in Whitewood and so they they just kind of swapped her. I haven't talked to her about Wall. Um, but we would like to bring her along or at least give her the opportunity to come along. That one's

044going to be uh interesting if if you guys want to go down this road whether or not Sturis wants to keep her or whether she wants to >> fight, >> I believe. So, >> she she lives in Par. She's pretty good >> or Yeah, she's >> Yeah. And and my travels and visit people, my neighbors and everything and and I'm one of them. I can't speak for everybody. I don't care if my taxes go up. I don't care if my taxes go down. I want away from insurance. >> Everybody that I have talked to, they don't care. They just they want to be done. They're tired of the 50-year battle. >> The one the one point I never I never brought up was before we tried going to any school districts, we also had this

045same thing going on for a year trying to get out years ago. >> Yeah. We tried to form our own school district. tried to form our own school district. What we ran into there is we made it quite a far. I mean, we get quite a few meetings with the department of the state and stuff except for there was quite a few laws. You have to have so many students, you have to have this, you have to have that. And then we finally get through a bunch of the headaches and co hit and they told us right before CO hit is when we were doing it. They told us that the one thing you don't have got everything all all your eyes dotted and your tees crossed, but you you don't have a high school.

046You can't go on your own without a high school. And so our plan was a virtual high school with two day having one teacher offer classes in there in a virtual high school. And the Department of Education told us that a virtual high school is not an option. It will never be an option. This that and the other. And within a year co hit and there's however many thousand kids in South Dakota there. And I sent an email to the Department of Education and and I think it was Dr. graves at the time and I said looks to me like the state has recommended virtual high school and I got an email back that says times have changed and I moving on from this position. So >> well and when we talked to faith so

047Amy and I called Kelly and Amy their business manager and just had a little visit with them today and they said what did the state tell you? One thing that Mr. Daughter said was Mr. Gra Dr. Graves said, "If two districts could figure this out, that's a great that's a great idea." And you guys, you talk vouchers. Well, what's the idea of a voucher? A voucher is taking my land and putting it taking my taxes and putting it into a school district or a private school or a home school, whatever, where I find value. This is kind of the epitome of a voucher system with these folks and and they're trying they're putting it want to put it towards a district. I mean, I'm not saying that I can be for or against this at

048this point, but I'm just saying I think there's a lot of thought going on here. >> I mean, it's something we've been working on. Well, and we didn't start 10 years basically. >> Yeah. >> We've been trying to get this figured out for 10 years. Well, the show's been on it for longer than we have. >> He's he was on the school board for four or five before we started the last time. >> Yeah. It's it's we're just so much different than that than I >> What's your population growth or what's your growth? What's your anticipation of kids out in that area? >> We have actually shrunk here in the last 10 years. It used to be over a 100 when we first first started to do this and now we're down to 85. >>

049Yeah, it it's it's such a it's such a big area. It's such a small population that kind of eb and flows. >> Um but we typically stick around that 80 to 100. Now there there is a lot of kids around there that parents homeschool for a whole different a lot of different reasons. Um, I I am of the opinion that if a new school district came on and wanted to invest in education out there, I think you could probably, you know, gather up another 15 20 kids. It's just it's just it's not it's just an unhealthy environment that we have right now. And along with this, and I didn't talked about it earlier, really trying to get some sort of a a high school component, um whether it's virtual, whether it's it's something with the

050new school district would be amazing because I'm where I live, I'm I'm North Union Center. Um, I my neighbors and friends, they've boarded out their 14-year-old kids to go live with somebody in town. I've seen moms get an apartment in town and breaks up the family. And, you know, I my oldest is 23, my youngest is 18, and I would like them to come back. I I I'd like to have something available for their kids to do this because I I'm sure a lot of us have kids. You know, you don't want to put a 14-year-old in a car to drive 150 miles a day or, you know, send your 14-year-old daughter to go live with strangers. It's it's it's really taxing family. And I I think if this looks like a a group of

051of really intelligent people and if you could probably figure out something to do to kind of help these families out to think aggressive that way. We're very homeschool friendly already. We try to work with those families that we because we are all family oriented here. >> Correct. >> One thing I am going to say is I think we put a lot of money, a lot of effort towards making things really good here. working with our music program. We've got a really strong teacher, I think, coming in our CTE program. So, it's a really hard where to go with how I hope and I talked about we're caught in a muck between doing school here and thinking thinking the new way of school and how that should look because it's hard to put all this money

052into what we've got here and then say stay at home and go to school when we've got all these CTE opportunities here and different music opportunities here and it's like well now we just said stay home and here we're putting all this money into here. Something >> it's great. Yeah. We we sit and toil over the thought of that. Where should where where is the line? >> Would you see out of the 76 to 85 youth have that's K8, right? Correct. >> So once they hit high school and we do offer an online high school program, I'm sure there'd be a large population that would go to that because it makes it easier for them to be at home and doing the rural things. Uh would you see a population of them coming to town

053and coming in person to school to be involved in the athletics and the the CTEs and the music and things? >> Right. Right. Right. Um >> impossible to predict. Right. >> Well, I'm a big believer in in in branding kids. Um >> really much so. I mean, I I was on the school board when we built Stage Barn, and that was one of the things that we talked about is like, how do we get these kids to think of themselves as scoopers who wanted to come up and and >> you know, it was it was a allout fight when we built the Union Center school to get it in red, um, black, and white because those are scooper colors. Um, and Union Center didn't want that. >> Yeah, Union Center didn't want that because they

054were the Eagles. And the funny part is they were the Eagles is because Wall donated basketball uniforms when Sturgis would buy them 40 years ago. >> So there's blue page under that red paint. >> Yeah, there is. So >> it says Eagles. >> It's there. I think most most of all, you know, I think if you show families and and children that they're wanted, that they're accepted in a place, they're going to go. Um, you know, there's going to be things to figure out. Um, whether it's online or whether it's somebody in the community that's well known and and trustworthy and wants to board children out. Um, that was a thing in Sturgis years ago. It's not anymore. Um, but just finding those little >> those little things it Yeah, I think if you build

055a build a community around it, I think they will come. >> There's some middle school motivate. >> Yeah. I mean, you're not going to pull anybody from Opal. >> My son comes to Wall. John's going to come to Wall, you know, >> but you'll get them from Union Center to countdown. You'll probably get them from Hersford. >> This is kind of goes with all of it. But we've been talking about preschool in the school. There is a preschool currently out of somebody's house up by Union Center as well. >> Yeah, the Union Center's had a pre has done herford for a while. It kind of blows around from the Union Center. They used to have it in the old school at Union Center. >> I think there is a free school in >> Charlene has

056one. >> It's not affiliated, >> right? And ours wasn't either, but that's been discussed of incorporating it into the >> There is the old school in Union. >> Yeah. >> Still the school district that would come with that they were talking about for high school when they tried to split. That's why it was kept. >> That building is still >> goes with the school board. >> Correct. They would want them to keep it. So, and it's it's what a block from the new school and >> it's kind of set up for a teacher to live in right now if needed. There was a a preschool in Union Center and then the insurance with 461 uh they were passing uh that I can't remember who was running it at the time, but they had to come

057up with an $8,000 deposit for the insurance and so $8,000 and someone doing preschool is just real cost prohibitive and they just don't. So I mean there wasn't even a waiver for that. So >> one question when we met with some of the teachers out there they were the skepticism with faith was face pay on teachers was quite a bit lower than where >> where your was. I have no idea where wall is in the ballpark. Our idea to faith was well if you get a bunch more capital outlay throw a $5,000 raise against your own teachers and needs and bring it up it'll be easier to hire someone. But um that's something too. I know the teachers out there were worried about the that they were getting paid a lot less if they went

058to paid that stainless steel there. I thought the one was. >> It sounds like we're open to entertaining. I think that's what these gentlemen are here. >> Can you ask a question? >> Yes. Um, so I was just doing some quick math, but I see your general fund spending is about 1.3 and then the revenue is about 580 with with state aid. If you're saying around 75 to 80 kids, that would ramp to 1.1 million, right? >> Per student allocation of >> it's about 7,600, >> right? So you're we're still looking at a deficit of about 150,000. >> So is what are because there's a deficit in the general fund and that's where we kind of struggle as well is in the general fund is always having a deficit you're proposing or what you would

059suggest is to do a capital outlay transfer >> which I know you can do up to 45%. I mean there there's enough there's more than enough money that's generated in the area to support them schools and you guys were basically saying let us use our money to operate the schools and we'll give you another close to $500,000 in capital depending on where the line is. And so like it it I really understand where you're coming from because it is kind of a fundamental shift on school funding and finance of that strict general funds. We use general fund general fund expenditures and we use cap money for for cap expenditures. Um for me and this is my own little bit of crazy is I look at the state and I see them they want us to

060run on our property tax authors. That seems to be the general consensus over the past 10 years to keep up transfer over. It's I don't know. It's it's it's it's a hard shift for a lot of people to make that we want to run on on property taxes as opposed to state funding, >> especially for our district because we've never max levy capital. So, if we start doing that, when do you stop right to our taxpayers? and and that's what got Rapid City and and problems and everybody in Western South Dakota points to Rapid City is my god, we don't want to be that. Um I personally I I think you can get creative with it. I've never liked the idea that um in 461 that we paid our superintendent out of the general fund

061because they really I just always saw that as a good opportunity to to put into capital funds to pay our superintendent just because it's it's one position and it's going to go up higher than higher faster than anything else and it's it's so numbers look better than your numbers. numbers. >> What's that? >> Her numbers look better than your numbers. >> Oh, >> they do on general fund. I'm saying >> there's a there's a lot of questions I think still have and mine get mine get more detailed, but what do you guys busing? Do you run any buses, yellow buses out there? >> We run two. Um, we have one that goes to uh Plain View and then we have another one that goes up north to uh Stoneville and comes around and >> so

062you took to Plane View. Plain View was a country school with me when I was in Marie. >> Yep. >> And so most of those kids now come over to Union Center. >> Yes. >> That's one big thing. I'm going to be very brass as something me as a board member would not be in favor of keeping buses. >> We pay mileage. >> Well, and I think there smart. >> So, we'd be paying a lot of mileage probably. >> Say that I think they're they're struggling hugely right now to keep the buses going and I'm pretty sure Sturgis is going to shut down the buses directly for the rule. >> Do you have CDL bus drivers that you could transfer to wall thinking >> buses? Helm Springs doesn't have a bus. Herford doesn't have a

063bus. >> No didn't have a bus. Opal didn't have a bus. It was the Union Center that had the bus on the highway and I will say I doubt you're going to get very much vote to switch school districts if there isn't the talk of having a bus. Them people in that area are pretty adamant about it. >> They were >> when they closed the Red School down they promised a bus. >> But Sergeist is talking about cutting it too talking about cutting it too. We're still moving forward knowing there's going to be obstacles. When I talked to Mr. stom two days ago east or no yeah two days ago when I told you or 3 days ago Friday he said that if if if wall wants to move forward and me they have talked

064to the assessor's office off of their numbers and they're going to draw a line a little bit different and they want to have meetings between the two school boards and the two superintendent and not outsiders. I I think they're getting a little bit >> Well, they try to forget it and we keep bringing it out. >> I don't That's great. >> If it doesn't work for Sturgis, they're not going to let us out. If it doesn't work for Wall, you don't want to take us. My son goes to Wall. I don't want to hurt Wall School District and I don't want to hurt Sturgis, honestly, either. But how it is, if you're open to it, you have to know ahead of time. It would be about impossible to run without taking CAP dollars and throwing

065it. We bring in a boatload of cap dollars and we cost the general fund. I finding a school district that can see that. That's that's the truth. I don't see it working without, you know, and we have talked about uh visiting with often because we do county. We haven't. Our first choices were to find the most conservative, rual-minded, like-minded school districts, which is Spate, Wall, and Hawk, because we kind of want to get away from the strip and rapid and the mindset of that. >> That's why we >> I think Yeah, that's good. >> No, I I guess you know, we're getting uh we're getting into things that we definitely need to discuss. >> We're taking a lot of time. anytime you guys want to have a meeting like there's a larger group of us

066that are kind of in this too. >> We appreciate you guys coming. >> We'll we'll come over and talk to you at a a committee meeting or whatever you guys want us. Just let us know and we'll come over and talk. >> Thank you guys. >> We'll talk. >> All right. With that um move on to number 12 reports. First one, budget negotiations and insurance. >> Last month we had a proposed budget. >> No. Um probably our budget or final budget September. There's um some agenda items later that maybe talk about insurance committee building grounds and transportation. >> We met and we discussed some things. We there was a bit of discussion about our I guess basically developing a plan for our transportation in general and just possibility of and we didn't we didn't talk

067in great detail but we talked about the possibility of more sprinter vans I guess um if that's legal or not legal to be able to haul in traffic students instead of like 14 passenger bus type things. Um, >> this part of our fiveyear chapel outlay plan, we're trying to get something put together where we know x amount of years we're going to possibly need to spend money on new transportation vehicles. And we found those sprinter van thought you used are like half price of those 14 passenger white buses, better AC, better little smoother riding. So >> you guys also met in order to discuss the next thing that we have to do in order to move forward with the powerhouse and that is number 17. >> So we just talk to them about that. >>

068Yeah. So other than that I guess I don't have anything note related to get to that item. Um curriculum inspection and technology. >> We didn't have a meeting to say right now but we have been talking a lot like Sally just brought that. We just wanted to I think bring to the board as a whole there's it's just a little bit more involved some of these things with uh dual credits with these kids actually being in school as opposed to if they're past their dual credit classes they can just leave during the day and take them whatever. Seen some issues with that some inconsistencies with that. And then also we wanted to talk about some scheduling things. Um, we talked about electives and front loading freshmen and all stacking the class and there's only six

069class periods in a day. So, we get where when you have all your required classes because we added social studies back in and then we moved eighth grade math to where they can't take algebra, right? So, that spaces math out in high school longer. So, we're running out of kind of room for our electives. So, we just wanted to bring that to you guys. And then the dual credit stuff, the online piece of that kind of tied in even with this me county discussion is that we need to be looking at what do we want to we have the online black online learning program. We have kids that go special status with friends with our home school people, but more what does that look like some of these other pieces? So >> one of the

070well and I don't know if this is I'm going to since you asked me to talk I'm going to talk about it now. That's kind of why I wanted a meeting set with a policy. So, with that dual credit thing two years ago when I my after my first year here and I forget what was going on kind of um you guys, I took study halls away. Just going to say it. They were wasted time. That's where my behavior problems were happening. Now, I'm going to tell you right now, Beck and I just did our report for the state on behaviors. We had one situation in high school and Becca and I are on a lot of things. I mean, we're on but major things and a few two or three middle school major things.

071So, the behaviors have really improved. My expectations are teachers, you teach the 64minute class period and then they're supposed to have 20 minutes of work time with the teacher. So, we don't have study. So, said, "All right, if kids are seniors are taking dual credits, could they do those other places?" Um, so they show us their grades on Mondays. They have A's and B's. They don't have to be here. Well, what happened this most recent year is we had kids stacking up on dual credits. Um, yes, they they're done with Well, here's the deal is now we have the um government class now as a requirement for college. We had seniors though who maybe weren't going to college, but they still were going to take that because guess what that did? That took them out

072of our class here and it let them not, you know, they they didn't have to take classes here. So we had some kids taking more than they needed maybe for what they were going into. Then what we had was and they also told me I said all right I want you kids here when it's time for an assembly. I want you here when we have meetings. I need you here for whenever I ask you to be here for certain things. Well then what happens is parents are calling these kids out all the time. I'm not going to question a parent. I've told my staff a parent has a right to take their kid out of school, but that's what's going on. So, they can be an internship, then their parents call them out of seventh

073period. That's when I tried to have meetings. Then we got these kids taking these dual credits. So, then I went to the juniors and said, "All right, guys. I'm going to have to bring you back to school more because we need senior leadership. We need student council representation. We're not holding up our end of our deal. Okay. So then those juniors, they were frustrated with me. So then they asked them, I met with about five of them, Kelly and I, Mrs. Sundola and I did, we shared with them what I just shared with you, the background on why we needed them to be back here more. I said, but because you're here to negotiate, talk with me, let's talk this through. So we said, "Why don't we still have you come certain periods every day?"

074Like first hour, Kelly said, "Let's get them out of bed. They need to get out of bed and start their day." Because guess what? If they're taking dual credit at home first thing in the morning, what are they doing most likely? Sleeping in. So let's have them come every day um first period. And then um then they can kind of pick a period or two because we don't have study halls. That's where the um guys that's where the junior senior privileges used to come in. Well, now they don't have that. >> Well, they could leave for lunch. It was like lunch and study hall, but they could still leave for lunch if they're passing their classes. What they're doing essentially is they're stacking up dual credits, not taking classes we offer here so that they

075don't have to be in school. So anyway, Kelly and I tried to put some guidelines in. Now we've got families coming at us wondering why all the changes and and so I I'm feeling it from both sides and I guess I don't I wanted a meeting to talk with policy, but just I'd love to hear where we stand with that and what I should require expectation of. I don't want to go against what you guys stand for as a board. So don't think that in the past dual credit kids have ever been able to meet >> just these two years when I got here and I said but then we looked at grades. So here's a the dot Kelly just this week. Last week he had one C. All the others are A's and B's.

076So they're not doing poorly except one student had to drop a couple classes that he that the student didn't need but was stacking. And then we had a couple other students who were struggling with a class that kind of hit them. I mean, one was one was not a part-time student, so that wasn't even really our we realized we got to watch those kids more closely. So, I love the dual credit idea, but I think that is the effect of us frontloading these kids their freshman and sophomore year, then have all this time their junior year, excuse me, their senior year to they don't have classes that they have to take to graduate. >> So, what about our government? Should I not? Well, okay. So, a freshman has four classes. We have six periods. They

077have four required classes. And then we've been putting PE in that spot because the sophomores will have the same thing. So would you rather them have one elective as a freshman or a sophomore? The juniors because we've changed that math like Hope said it's going to make them have to take another map. So they're not going to have as many open. >> How many classes right now are required then for the juniors and seniors? >> Well, it kind of depends but at that time it depends on what their pathway is. So, we've got to have so many CTE. There's a lot of requirements, >> but are they do they have four generals their junior and senior year or that goes down to three for some of them, doesn't it? >> Uh, math and science. Science

078is three, math is still >> three. So, three. So they have so what we're running into is >> I didn't bring my so in the last few years they've decided to make the freshman make it mandatory for the freshman to take health and PE their fresh so then they can only choose one elective >> so they it has so if they want to be in CTE or if they want to be an egg can't take music they can't take art or if they want to take art or do music like so then they're they're doing this workound where they those kids are not necessarily in the choir class because they can still be in music, they just have to do it during Eagle time or like there's all these other pieces. But we're seeing a

079huge decline, this is when the curriculum committee when we saw it was when we had four high school kids or five high school kids in the choir. It's really hard to build a music program when you don't have and we have an amazing teacher coming in. So we had asked that can we not require that piece of freshman can we move it later? I mean they got four years to do it. they can pick because what what you see statistically historically is that when kids quit a program of the arts their freshman year, they will not go back to it. >> So we could, you know, we we put the schedule based on what Dr. Doug suggested, best practices. So we've got band seventh period. There's going to be some kids that don't do that.

080We're making all our middle schoolers take choir and I know that's not a popular thing. Were there any high school kids in band this year? >> Yes, about three or four. Um, and those kids still want to take it. So, we're trying to work and this is part of a middle high school struggle too. When you share teachers and share schedule, it's to make it work for everybody's schedule with one teacher. And that's what ideally I'd have two music teachers. Um, but we've got it. He said this is what he recommended and so we're trying to go with him. He e Yes. When I came in, that's when I said, "Kelly, I want all freshmen to take it. Get it out of the way. It's required. We could have one and they take it any

081time and then just say seniors, you're going to take that, freshman, you're going to take it." But then as a schedule that's a bad idea. >> I do too because scheduling you guys if you haven't worked on this whole schedule. It is >> this year you take PC. >> But it's it's always it's health and PE both. It's half a year and a half a year. So but it doesn't have to be this same year even does it like you could do one semester in PE and then your junior year you could take your semester. >> You could but so often what we have to do here is schedule. We schedule junior classes so they all work together. reschedule freshman classes so they all work together. You put sophomores, we can't pile two sophomore classes

082on top of each other. Um, and that's what Kelly and I, we have gone around and around. Well, Sally, we could have this fresh first hour, but note that's on top of choir. We have just worked our tails off to keep choir right now very very open. So, if you look at our calendar, you're not going to or our schedule, you're not going to see hardly anything piled on top of choir. so they can take music. So we really opened that up if because like Kelly said if PE is what's causing this to be open, we will we will leave that open. Then we tried to move our CTE music and CTE. We worked really hard because I think those are the two programs that we're trying to you know give them opportunity to take.

083But here's another thing. What we've got to ingrain in our kids is the ability. They'll want to learn and then they'll be here all day. Right now, I'm just going to say it. Families are willing to take their kids in and have them learn outside. I'm not going to say good ground. Learn outside. So, that mentality's got to be first and foremost. It doesn't matter how much wonderful things we plan, many wonderful things we plan. If that attitude isn't, take advantage of it. >> I think there's a happy medium though and I think we're leaning in the direction of the extreme of letting like right like the 8 hour school day is not the right thing to do anymore. But I don't think letting a 16-year-old decide I'm only going to go to school for

084three hours a day. I don't think that's the right way either. Like I think that I I don't know what the answer is and I'm probably rambling and nobody really cares what I have to say because I'm done in 57 days. But I I just that that's what worries me is you I have a teenager and you give her enough freedom, it's going to go wrong. >> So So maybe what Mrs. Sunville and I mentioned is we have visits with our parents when they start taking um well I guess I was thinking the dual credit thing when you say leave school. Um, I guess what we wanted to get your guys' thoughts on because the committee, we've had this discussion, so we know what our thoughts are, but what we wanted to get more input

085on is your guys' thoughts on number one, these school dual credit kids leaving school to take their dual credit and number two, the um, I guess the scheduling thing. We just wanted to discuss just so we know. So, we're all kind of on the same. >> I can't speak for the scheduling thing as much without doing more research. As for dual credit, the wall school district is responsible for administering that dual credit, I think it's likely a bit irresponsible for us to let you do that outside of the doors of the school. We're responsible for it. I I get there's homeschoolers. We don't know what they're doing. The parent in that case is the one in charging their schools. That's on the parent. >> As far as the dual credit though, that's us. And I

086don't see how we can say that we're proper properly administering it and making sure that you're not that you're doing it properly and not using outside sources if you're not in our school. I don't think that I can say we can do that. I think that's a new for me. >> I think in addition to that, you know, all of not all of us maybe went to a traditional college either, but how often did we get to college and you have an 8:00 class and then you have a one:00 class? you might as well stay and study >> rather than go home or go hang out with friends, you know, right? >> You learn to use your time wisely. They should be learning from now. >> Here's an idea that's coming off the cuff because

087it just came in. When I was in high school a couple days ago, uh we had teachers aids. So like if you had a free period, you could go work with the CTE teacher or like help. So, if you're a dual credit kid and you get your classwork done and you have 45 minutes left, you could go hang out with Ashley and have her help or ask what she needs to be done. Oh, file these or do this or do that. Like, what about something along those lines? So, now you're not only gaining the skill of the college course, but you're also gaining the skill of helping in a clerical portion. >> Yeah, that one other thing I was wanting to add to >> Oh, you're fine. I I see your point. On the flip

088side of that, because I have talked to kids that are in college now, it's changed a ton since even I was there. I talked to a kid the other day and said, "College is it's boring. It's empty here. There's nobody here. They're all in mind." And so on the flip side, I guess, am I by saying what I'm saying? Am I not properly preparing a kid for college? Because in college, they're going to have the opportunity to do that in a room. So, you know, I could be I could be convinced otherwise. I just my best judgment tells me it's the only ones administering the class, you should be here until I know better. >> I do think like we talked about being caught in the buck right now because school is changing, public school

089is changing so drastically. We're even looking at this with some of these additions and things like that. But I think if dual credits like Rich said, like we're we're responsible for those. Special status is not the same thing. And I think we just have to always remember that special status or homeschooling or coming here for being enrolled here for just a few classes is is a different thing than being a full-time student >> taking dual stacking dual credits and not being >> so as long as we're able and I don't know if that means we need to make some adjustments in our handbook but maybe that's something we need to look at in our policy committee but that would be something I would be open to >> that's where my mind went exactly what you

090said I'm pretty stickler on being in class and being social and if we are offering the class like you're saying and then we're administering it like you're saying there's no reason those students shouldn't be in the school. >> They're not they don't have permission from a special status stand like you still have the things that they can be early for lunch. Another thing that might do, so right now what we've got in several classes, we have it in math, we have it in government, we have it in English. Kids are choosing to do dual credit. Now, parents pocketbook. It is much cheaper as a dual credit. So, we have allowed them to um not be in our classes with our teachers taking our schooling. They can take bill credit. If they do come back to

091school and they're I mean they're here for dual credit, it might encourage some of them to continue to take those classes. But if I'm want to go to college, things are tight. College is very expensive. Very expensive. So, I hate to say they shouldn't take a dual credit. I mean, I just want to make sure we're clear on this. >> So, your government class here is half a class because all the rest are dual credit. Now, I've got to have >> two kind of two places a little bit because >> you have to remember though what our job is here and our job is not doing credit. >> I know it. So I mean though I am sympathetic to the fact that college is expensive is this is a great way for them to get

092ahead on that. That's not our job. >> So that's another thing and maybe you just want to say take it to policy committee and hash this out but there's so many questions right now I have around this. I have my ideas of where we should be and then as soon as Mrs. Sundal and I talking all out. I know that folks are coming to you guys arguing both sides of it and it's so I just want to know kind of what you want us to it just gets fuzzy because then where do you draw the line like if I have a daughter and she super loves her math teacher but she doesn't like her English teacher so she's just going to take dual credit English. Yeah. I then you have three kids in your high

093school English class and all the rest are taking dual credits. Why do we have that feature? I >> think that's why I'm a little because I would think our requirement should be first and then your dual credit would be second. Yeah, >> I didn't know there was opt out options either like because if I'm understanding correctly, they can take a dual credit instead of our class today. Right now, that's how it's been. It's been that way since I came and I've seen it in not so much in math. They'll take college algebra, but usually they'll take college algebra after they've taken algebra 2. They're ready for that. So now we make them take algebra 1 as freshmen. We used to let them last year as eighth graders. So now that's going to help. They'll take

094algebra 1, they'll take geometry, they'll take algebra 2, and then they'll take college algebra, precel. Now some kids have asked Mrs. Glenn to teach preelp. So she's good. She's got a section of prel this year coming up here. Um now English we've allowed them to take composition. However, because the state changed their requirement, they've got to have another semester of uh lit. So that's going to make them want to take that senior year. So if they want to get on the advanced endorsement at the state for graduation, there's a lot of little details here. government. Just last year, the state now all state colleges require civics. So, they can take online government and it fulfills their civics. So, they're moving out of our government and taking that online civics. Part of it might be to

095avoid the teacher and the class. Part of it's because they want the >> to Car's point, you don't have to think that or let that be an option. >> We could say our high school government class is required. Now, if after you take that class, you want to take the government. >> Say your government once one semester is required and then they could take that. So, >> I think that was your point is like they're they're popping the dual credit classes to get out of Ashley's class. which >> sucks to stop being a teacher. So, you're going to sit through that teacher's course. >> Well, that's >> I had teachers I didn't like or not. >> That's how we learn to get along with classes. We don't like >> bingo. >> But I would say

096our classes probably need to be filled first and then >> are dual credits required between the school hours or can they be done outside of 8 to 3? So >> why not do it outside on their own time versus >> how on Friday? >> Not in the real world. >> Well, they've got to have I mean certain things are due certain times. I mean, but >> are they taking on that Thursday and Sunday, but they're still period outside 8 to 3. >> There's some that have to be protored, but as well. >> Kids come in and take math test with a pro with one of us. >> Can we still have this meeting coming up in Newark legislative policy and strategic planning to kind of some of this more? >> So need to set a

097meeting on legislation, policy and strategic planning. We will count on you guys doing that. We're move on. Last one, career development, scholarship and marketing. I doubt there's anything going on there. >> We got you guys covered. We're good. >> We got by scholarship season. So, um Okay. All right. So, number 13, uh discuss and approve surplus items for disposal or sale. >> Mrs. Vikers has been cleaning the science room with Miss El. >> One thing I wanted to just point out on there is the kitchen. Um there's that dishwasher. It was in the preliminary budget to purchase a new dishwasher. And one thing we would like to potentially um sell or sell that um dishwasher to another governmental agency. So we wouldn't really have to be out for bid, but maybe the city. So that

098is something that will probably go or maybe even another school district. But >> does it even run? Isn't it like >> it runs? It's just older. There's a lot of a lot of work that has to go to. >> I'll make a motion to approve the surplus items for disposal and or sale. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I >> all post to approve surplus items for disclos number 14 approve special status request 2026 2027 number three >> our package >> yeah everybody get a chance to look at that >> I'll make a motion to approve special student status request 2026 27-3 number motion and second. Any discussion here? All in favor say I. >> I. >> All post same side. Motion passes to approve 2026 uh

099special students status request number three. Um number 15 approve the 2026 2027 special education comprehensive plan. Touch on this section. >> That was in your packet as well. Um I don't believe there was any major changes. Um I did mention that in the board basically a requirement for us with our federal company and it meets requirement. So it was just updating the dates. Heather you can chime in if you have I mean it was just updating you guys do that every year and that's just something that we >> basically it's just a plan saying that we're going to follow the special law. >> Yeah. I have faith in you. >> I'll make a motion to approve it. >> Second. >> Motion a second. Any discussion? >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Same

100sign. Motion passes to approve the 2026 2027 special education comprehensive plan. Um all right. Number 16, Canvas June 2nd, 2026 school board election results. >> Okay. So, um to make them official, the um board of education does have to um vote to um the results. So, for the 2-year term, Linda Eisen Brown received 56 votes and Candace Eisen Brown received 337 for a total of 393 votes. And for the three-year term, um, Lex Heather Shaw received 307 votes, Mariela Willowite received 183, and Sharon Anderson received 210 for a total of 700 votes. So, um, we will have to make those official. And then I have to have you guys sign, each one of you sign, and then Bridge, you have to sign as a board chairperson. Um, and then this goes to account. >> I

101I was going to ask on that. Why was ours not posted on the There's a lot of other school districts that were on the stage site live and why was ours? >> Probably because they weren't able to count. >> Oh, okay. I was curious. I saw a lot of school districts like one of them. fill up maybe 200 was I didn't see her >> 200. So they probably partnered with the county and there's probably expensive tool >> very I I mean it's a lot more financially feasible for us to do it ourselves and that is one of the reasons why we only have one polling location. >> Yeah, I'm going to ask that. There's other I guess the walk group said they would more than willingly do it for us while they were there, but

102we're not that's legally not allowed. >> We would have to have representatives. We'd have to have two from the school. >> That had I think more turnouts. >> Oh yeah, we had way more turnout. goal was when the state made this law to put it as a primary or or at the general election because we could do it in November too was that was the whole point was to get more participation. So I think that goal was achieved. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean we are the school board usually is okay with regardless. So um that's not a new thing for us to have one polling location. Now, if we were to have it at each one of the pull in locations, the school would have to have two polls where it was. One note on

103that though, and maybe you guys all knew this, but I got comments from a lot of people that because we put it on Facebook, you know, be sure if you vote at Quinn to go and vote. People said that they never knew they could get that. >> And I actually went polling location in at 7 and told the whole group of, "Hey, just remind everybody schoolboard is in Wall." So like I lived there right away. So they they thought that since they voted in wall they couldn't vote. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. There's a lot of people for that in the city limits. I know there's people who don't who live outside of wall. Some of them thought they couldn't vote school board. >> Well and even scenic. So like scenic is part of our

104school district but they vote in cuda or how you say it. So like that's I mean it was we had we have a few minutes. I'd love to tell you about our election. It was a bit uh >> I aged a little bit. >> Um was a stressful day. >> The county did not do us any service. >> But anyways, so you do have to declare there was not unlike the city any close >> um tally. I will be on a um word to re problems for the city. So, >> thank you for doing that, Amy. And thank you for all the grand. >> There's a lot of a lot of good work done on the board and takes participation and new ideas. So, thanks for going out and running. >> You need to approve

105that. >> So, I you move to approve the school board election canvas as follows. And that would be what I had read. So, still moved. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I >> all post same sign. Motion to pass the canvas for June 2nd, 2026 schoolboard election results. Um and on to number 17 we go. Consider, discuss, and take all necessary action to update the district's 5-year capital outlay plan in accordance with South Dakota 55.13-16-9.2. And we've been wanting to do this for a while, but the reason why this got brought up is because with this new possible remodel of powerhouse in order to qualify for funding or um funding >> capital outlay dollars over 100,000 went to launch project wasn't enough saving. So >> this will

106be a part of our fiveyear strategic plan. um that will include some other things, but I pulled as many numbers as I could and then Amy finessed it with her magic. This is a working document and so we can revise as we see fit. We put in there technology things. We put in there what we kind of what has been budgeted. And then I did lay out some things. Chris and I went over some things that maybe could wait. So, we pushed those out, but just know that it's a work working document. >> Removing the outlets in our CTE complex, >> the one we literally just built. >> Um, yes. because part of that if I Chris is in the audience and he may be able to help me but I think was it that

107part of the new electrical class that's coming in >> um I'm not too sure I guess I'm >> trying to think of what we have a dual credit electrical class coming in from Western Dakota Tech Barrett will be the teacher they have partnered with us so those kids will be certified um there will be some dual credit with that or also the year after that he's trying to get welding in and I know it's some outlets working towards some of that future pieces of that and Perkins won't pay for those because it's a fifth star. >> You said who >> the Perkins grant that we get so much of our funding for like equipment. Well, since Western Dakota Tech's partnering with us, >> they're paying quite a bit, but they're paying about half of the

108other work they're doing. They're having builds and things. >> All right, that was just that's a little off complex and we're already putting money into it. >> No, that is just on the plan. That doesn't mean it's going to be >> That's for Yeah. So, I mean that could be I mean the way our capital um >> a bouncer looking that could be something. It was proposed this year and it was denied so it was pushed off. So it doesn't mean that it's going to happen. These are just things that >> planning for but it still could be a good question. Thanks for >> another thing and I know this is not it's down the road update bell system you guys our building is 20 years old or 21 Chris just said Sally those are

109pieces like when the electric electricity goes out right now everything shuts down sometimes it takes us up to three or four days our teachers did fine with no bells at all for a whole week first year >> and um so who knows when that system might go out for good. I so >> it's very outdated. >> Yeah, we're kind of living on a prayer with it. Sounds like it's one of those things we need to have on this plan like we do and work towards keeping it >> that date on that plan unless we're out of money for some reason but budgeted it so it gets done sooner and later >> so we don't have a spring of the moment where it is out it's broke down and might be a month of teachers without

110bells. Yeah. >> Well and the biggest piece with that it is a safety thing. It is our school in our cops. >> Yeah with >> same. >> So this is a this isn't a concrete document though. working >> remodel. Yeah. >> And was that's what we talked about on this top >> in this bullet point? >> No, I don't think so. More more or less just to start that process at all. This is just what we have to have. >> Okay. >> Do we have a motion from anybody or any questions before we start? So, I'll make a motion to approve the 5-year capital outlay plan. >> A motion. Second. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> All oppose, same sign. Motion passes to consider to approve

111the district's project capital outlay plan. All right. So number 18 is the next one. Approve resolution 26-4 the FY27 workers comp fund adoption and renewal motion. >> Okay. So you guys will be hearing from two um agenda items. So the work comp we're with Associated School Board's Protective Trust. We've been with them for sever several years. um that actually came in decrease at $2,857 less than last year. So >> about that. So don't ask questions, just go with it. The last quote, but anyway that went down. >> Yeah, it's something that went down. So um I'll talk about increases next. Um but yes, so you do need to have a motion to approve both of those >> um the the adoption and the renewal motion and the participation agreement. And I did include both of

112those documents in your board packets as well as um the proposal was in your board packets. And what's going to happen, range, just so you know, and Sally, it's a um I do have a paper form, but it's going to be an electronic signature. Um, >> yes. And you'll probably get I'll sign up first and then >> so do we need do we need to when we vote on 18 uh the fund adoption renewal motion all at once and then we'll go to 19 participation. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. And it's the resolutions for I'll >> make a motion um for the to approve the resolution 26-427 workers compensation. >> Motion in a second. >> Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I post same sign. I'll >> also make a motion to approve

113the resolution 26-5 of 527 workers compensation participation agreement. Second. Motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I post same sign. Motion passes to approve resolution 265.27 workers compensation participation agreement. >> Um number 20 is next on the list and that's uh when discussing consider approval of wind hail deductible buyback coverage. >> Okay. So you guys received that in your um well first month. Bad news. Um, currently our wind and hail coverage is 50,000. >> You think we need that here? >> Um, I could just tell that solar payment >> anyway. So, right now, so when inhale the deductible is 50 grand. Okay. So, um, with EMC, our, um, provider, it went up to 1% of the, um, car or the valuation of this main building. So, it's going up to 216,000 for

114the deductible >> from 50. >> That's just what >> you're saying. The deduct is going up to 2160,000. >> Yes, you heard. What do they cover? >> Same. >> They only cover 209,000. So by my >> calcul no, don't look at that document. That was >> you give it to me. >> Just a minute. So that's what EMC that's what our win and hail is. So if we had a total loss on a roof, they would pay that's what it would cost to replace a total loss if it would if it the wind took the roof off completely. You those type of things. Um, if it took off all the lights at our football field, you know, those type anything win or hail, it's $216,000 deductible. It's into FY27. So, our I had our insurance

115agent from hub came up this past week and realized that is a humongous increase obviously for a deductible and so he wanted to offer us some sort of um option if that was to happen if a catastrophic event happened. So now he did we don't have to take this. It is a that's what this document does is this is called a wind and hail or deductible buyback. Basically what this does is insurance for the deductible. >> But did did our insurance go down our premium go down at all? >> No it went up. >> How much did they increase the deductible that much? >> How much is our premium? Our premium did you say 13,000 it went up? >> That's the premium on the uh the insurance that's just your yearly premium on the insurance

116on the deductible. >> I'm talking about the deductible went up so much the premium should have come down usually when deduct usually that's >> so what he said is any any new school on EMC. So basically there's about two insurance companies that do and EMC is one of them and we were with Associated School Boards Presenting Trust but they kept going up as well. So we went out for bid and went out to EMC and they had the lower bid for us back then. This was probably four or five years ago, four years ago maybe. Anyway, so there's that option if we want to hop companies again. But it's I mean you guys it's just it's just >> how much is our premium through EMC? >> Amy, I thought you must >> Well, because it's

117property and liabilities together. So that >> um >> didn't you say 9,000 something? >> It went up by 9,000. >> Um >> are there any ways like stay at the same company but lower some stuff or coverages or something or do you have to >> increase 9,69? Yes, $7. >> That's what the but our property and liability insurance is over 100,000 >> a year. Yep. I got >> we're paying. >> But that's with liability. >> I I understand. But we're paying like I I try to look at this like it's my car insurance, right? >> How much is our school How much is our school worth? >> Over 20 million. >> 20 million. Cool. So if I have a $50,000 vehicle, my deductible being $2,000, right? >> Better on the school, >> right? ish. Yes

118and no. But if we're paying $100,000 a year for insurance, but then we have to buy insurance to cover our insurance, doesn't that seem silly? >> It's quite >> No, no, no. We don't have to. >> But we kind of do because if we're looking at a deductible, wind and hill are a real thing here. We're looking at a $200,000 deductible. So, we have to pay insurance to cover our $200,000 deductible. I would be I would be interested to see what >> So our commercial property is 86,183 general liabilities 3500 island marine so that would be like your help I think that's like your contents of uh like that are not vehicles like your >> let's get started >> um cyber um liability that's only 571 which I will also We'll talk about um commercial

119auto is 46 14,655. This is just broken down. Um commercial umbrella is 3,667. Prime and fidelity is 1,111 and linebacker is 34 3,463. That's an additional liability for any public. Are there any like tiers that insurance or is it just here's your option schools you pay it or you don't have insurance? >> I don't >> like coverage levels talk about the what we would get back. >> So if we went with that >> insurance on the deductible what we would get back. >> Okay. So if we took this I mean we can't not have this insurance. So, we have I mean, we're going to >> I'm not saying to cancel our insurance, but what I am saying is when you switch an insurance company, you are going to get a lower rate. That's just how

120they gain their business. And then after a couple years go by, your rates go up, your rates go up, your rates go up, you start shopping around again. I I'm sure it's a giant pain in the rear end to switch insurance companies. But would it be ad advantageous for us >> as a fiscally responsible board to look into the other insurance company to see where they'd be at? >> And that's definitely something I've even had internal thoughts about myself is to go and reach back out to Associated School Boards to see if it would be and and that he our insurance agent isn't tied to EMC. That was just a company that was willing to take on a school. >> Sure. because there's not many >> and they're the ones dropping schools too, aren't they?

121>> Huh? >> They're the ones who are dropping some schools. >> Yeah, there EMC is. >> Yeah. >> Um, so the reason >> what >> I think we've got >> it was in your board package on our email. >> Yes. >> And then I did the the ones that request the board um print out. I didn't bring it up for you. the major the increase of the 9,677 what the ma the majority of that was because of the increase in property tax um our building. I know. I know. It's It's ridiculous. >> 1% for wind and hail coming. What's that? >> That's not that 1% is actually not that >> 1% for win becoming. I don't I don't I think my understanding most companies are going to be there very soon if they're not already

122in effect. That's what that's >> that's what he was saying is most companies are going to the percentage because of wind and hail because of the amount of wind and hail damages that are having >> and he said any new company on EMC or new school that comes on EMC is at 2%. So we're already at we're not at that amount which >> but they would cover the entirety of it, right? >> Here's the way you got to look at or Yeah. So what this buyback would be is if we pay if we want to do this, we don't have to do this. This would be a a $12,859 cost. What this would do is we'd still pay the $50,000 prem or deductible we currently have. It paid the difference between um what we already

123have the 50,000 and what the new one is. >> Okay. >> So if a claim is 100,000, we pay the 50, they're going to pay the other 50 no matter the claim. No matter the size wind and hail, right? >> Yeah. No matter the size of claim. Sorry. >> There's probably a max in here. Well, it'd be up to the two what? Up to the deductible. >> I'm saying there's no smaller amount. If it's if we have to go over 50 on our deductible, they cover whatever the difference is >> in between there and the 230. >> So at $12,859 a year, really what you're >> the in the middle we're talking about 166,000, right? And so >> you've got what is that? I'm doing rough math. That's like a nine nineyear buyback basically or

124a nine-year payback. So if you can have >> if you can go nine years without having to tap into that, we're money ahead. >> It's going to cost us >> well 9 times 12,000. you can guarantee the school will spend that amount over the next nine years. >> That's if it doesn't go up. >> If it doesn't go up, I don't think we need that. I think that we have cash reserves. >> And one thing I was thinking, too, >> is we haven't started redoing our >> No. >> So, we pray for hail. Is that what you're saying? >> I'm not saying that. >> You have to look at our You have to look at our building, though. I mean, the roof is the roof is the main thing that's going to have hail in.

125and the sides of our pre-cast concrete. I I I can't imagine hate to break it to my insurance companies and look at that roof as being 20 years old. It's like this is life expectancy. Oh, shucks guys look like we only give you 50 grand. They can't cost you 500. >> They can't do that. >> Yeah, they do. >> Oh, they not anymore. >> They'd appreciate your value. >> That's not a thing anymore. >> Just did it last year. >> Okay. They Your insurance company screwed you. >> So, they give life expectancy also. >> I don't know. I think that they have they don't anymore. >> I I when I they said they told me that with one insurance company I switched to State Farm. They're like, "No, if you have wind and hail damage

126and we have to fix your roof, you it's not just a percentage we pay. We take care of the whole thing." >> They just did too my whole roof. >> Even if it's like 30 years old. >> What was it? How recently was the >> It was 2007 my roof was put on. That's what I'm getting at is they don't they don't do that anymore. Maybe it was an egg thing. I don't know. But >> yeah, >> I I don't think we need the insurance on top of the insurance, guys. I I think that's uh >> not something you want to consider after we put in after put in a new reader. >> After we finished five stages of five days. Yes. But I I wanted to present this to you because he presented it

127to me. I It's >> They're in it to make money. >> Of course they are. That's all right. The only thing about insurance is you're just managing what you >> have some cash. That's one thing he did say is it's we're we have capital outlay funds that if we had to I mean we're redoing our roof and stages anyways whereas like bigger school districts they can't afford the risk of a 1% on five buildings that are worth 20 to $25. >> You know what I mean? So they would have to granted their premium would cost a lot more than 13,000 but still there would be a or they don't have the cash reserves that we would have. So that is okay. So we'll say no on that. >> Don't let me make the decision. >>

128Well, no. I mean if somebody thinks it make a motion and we can vote on it, right? >> I think that's we're on the same page. >> Yeah. >> We have to make a motion to disapprove it. you brought up. We have to make room to do it so we don't have to be able. All right, we're going to move on consensus there to uh forego the uh wind deductible buyback coverage on 21 discuss consider approval of additional cyber insurance coverage. Okay. So now that's another thing um in so our cyber I got to get my get my um Okay. Right now in our current property and liability we pay my hold on. Okay. for cyber um liability, we paid $571 for the entire year for cyber liability. Now, that only covers um a supplement

129of 10,000 in some circumstances, 25 in others, and then a $50,000 aggron. So, the max would be 50,000 in cyber liability. cyber liability. That's the most they pay us out would be $50,000. That if we had a major cyber attack, $50,000 would not cover us. Does that make s I mean so um that is one thing that I would whereas our current liability insurance $4 million >> under the umbrella. >> Mhm. because we have a $1 million for um just regular and then we do the additional which is the linebacker which is the $3,400 that gets us up to the max of 4 million for public officials. Okay. So, um, we're giving more prices, but one I've only gotten one, um, one option, and this one I've gotten was a $3,533 for a $1 million

130aggregate um, coverage for cyber. I just got this today. um like literally probably at 4:30. So, it's if we were to do this, we're I'm getting more quotes. Um he's because I filled we filled out one application and we're really filled out a couple more. Becca helped me with this. This is the one that scares me. The liability as far as if you got it was fraud or something. >> Financial institutions pay that too. But >> so schools are real target real targets because the security is so we got people students I mean they're just so easy to adults are easy to get. Well, just this year there was a K12 data pack uh school business manager in South Dakota school business manager's email was copied and they sent out a million dollar wire. >>

131I know the business I mean it was the banker lost their job. And it's so it's so easy because at the bottom of the you know the unsubscribe links they can put a something in that. So if I clicked on that to say I don't want to get this from this person that's a that's where they could put that too. So it's just so easy. It's just so easy. So just for clarification, we have up to four million now or only up to 50,000 now >> in cyber we only have 50. >> Okay. We're >> 4 million is for like professional liability. So for like >> Okay. So that has nothing >> for you guys for us. So the cyber doesn't fall underneath the umbrella. >> No, cyber it's cyber is a newer thing which

132is surprising to me to 50,000 >> and that's for that's a max that's like with probably >> I can't tell you the differences of >> probably 40 50 minutes. So if we were to add this coverage, he is suggesting us drop that line item in the current liability of 571 >> that we pay with this package. >> I think this makes sense. >> Now what I'd like to do and if you give Sally and I authority is to choose the best plan because we are getting more. It's just we haven't >> Yeah, >> absolutely. because I don't want to because I don't because we've only gotten one back >> what what Thursday? Yeah, Thursday or Friday. Yeah, we were just filling out the applications. >> I need a motion to take just a motion to

133um shop permission to shop around. Do you need a motion to take it off our other insurance or not? >> Yeah, I'd probably include that in the motion. And just another thing to include in um with EMC, it's like I feel like we're EMC bashing. We did get a dividend check this past year of 14,000. So it's not like I mean that will >> I wasn't EMC bashing. I was just insurance bashing. as far as like we never got a dividend checked from associates. we're going to meet. But this was the first year we had >> pretty good. >> So I mean it paid for I mean that's it was he was he asked to come meet with me and I thought he was dropping us. >> So but he brought a $14,000 check. >>

134Well previous week you heard they dropped another school. So it's like >> what did we do wrong? Yeah. >> But I don't know. I would like to that if if I was to have any type of suggestions or recommendations, it would be to some type of cyber coverage. >> I would make a motion to um Brown for cyber coverages based on Sally and Amy's discretion and once found drop the cyber coverage on our current insurance policy once the new one's established. Second motion in a second. Any other discussion? >> Favor say I. >> I. >> Same sign. Motion pass. >> Before we move on, just because I felt bad about this and I I realized that as soon as we moved on, when we were talking about the buyback coverage, I told you guys nine

135years, that's that's not true. If it was $12,859 a year and $166,000 in gap there, that figure has to be closer to 13. So, just so you know, I can do math. I think I said nine. Has that changed anybody's opinion about it? >> No, we don't have to read. >> I don't want I don't want somebody to say, "Oh, geez, Ridge, I wouldn't have said yes." We didn't even do the math ourselves. So, anyways, rough. Thank you. Um, number 22, elementary principal report. >> Hey, I'm working on the consolidated application. Now that the special ed has been approved and comprehensive plan, I'll be I think I'll be able to finish it this week and get everything submitted. Uh parents and families are should look for summer school invites. I'll be sending that out next

136week sometime. Uh they'll I'm also going to be start working on im immigration immunization immunization letters for kindergarten and sixth grade. So families keep looking out for those too. So that's the only thing I can add. So any questions? Oh, >> thank you. Um, number 23, K12 assistant principal and tech coordinator report. >> I am working on getting our image up and working. I'm working with Golden West. It's not ready to go just yet, but we're getting closer. >> You explain to them what that is. >> So, the image is kind of basically taking and rebooting, cleaning up the servers as we go and getting our computers kind of back to factory reset, but keeping the important information pieces. It's putting everything back on the students updated on the students computer. She does it every

137summer. >> So that'll be the computers will be recleaned. I've sent in a bunch for warranty as we were at the end of our warranty for some so that we can get extended life out of them. Um I'm working on the website looking to do some updates just make sure that all the paperwork is for 2627 once July 1 hits and I have a principal's conference in the next two days. I already had somebody ask me about the uh calendar when it was going to be up. >> It's already on. >> I know, but I think we've only been out of school. >> It was up the day after school closed cuz I knew >> trying to make my summer plans. My spring plans. >> It's up. >> Okay. >> It's been on there actually.

138I mean, >> that's what I was wondering. They do approve the three. The only thing that's not is homecoming and parent teacher conferences, but you can make your other plans. >> So, they've been on since you guys approved them. >> They're on the calendar, the activities calendar. >> Yeah, everything's on. >> You can see all coming. >> Yeah, Mr. May. >> He's updated everything for the next year, too. >> Thanks, Becca. >> Uh, number 24, business manager report. Um, I don't really have much because I talked a lot already, but one thing that you might want to look at in for September, October, and November, the second Monday of those three months are heavy with activities. Um, so for schoolboard meetings, um, in September there's a junior high football, junior high volleyball, cross country, and

139JV football. Um, and then October there's Junior High football, daily football, and junior high volleyball. I I And then same thing for November. >> This is a really sticky point. Um, we leave school meetings on Mondays. That's what we voted on last year. We moved them from Wednesdays for that reason. I don't want to be rude, Amy, but it's just we got to make decisions, guys. We're going to keep it on Mon. And my my my position is we keep it on Mondays. It's the school board meeting every second Monday of every month no matter what's going on. That's our decision. That's my that's my vote unless we move them back to Wednesdays. But we just moved into Mondays. There's a reason why assessing boards had them on Wednesday night. >> I think to Amy's

140point though, it's that might be just a flex week, right? Or a flex month where we >> No, >> otherwise it'll be okay. >> I don't care. I won't be here. I just think that's pretty When you're in a board of seven people, >> it's pretty ridiculous. >> I know. But today was a perfect day for me to be out working. When all those people on those days think they have a job or want to be somewhere else, I left work early on. I'm texting my guys. I had to make a choice. >> Yeah. You made a choice to run for the school board just like everybody else did. And there we also have kids. When your kids get to high school and junior high and they're playing a sport, are you going to choose

141your kid or are you going to choose >> What are my boys doing right now? >> I don't know. >> Playing a sport. >> Well, and you chose to be here. I wouldn't have I'd be there. >> No, this is my responsibility to the district. >> I guess I'm the same way. My team's should be playing yours. >> See, and I I would have chosen to be there as opposed to here. >> But when you run, >> I guess it wasn't hard. >> When you run for the board, you know, the school board meetings are the second Monday. >> Sure. >> Too. I mean, you didn't because they were on Wednesdays and we moved up, but anybody coming in now, they know it's the second Monday of >> I told Amy to bring it up

142to you guys tonight. Think on it. Next month is when we vote on those on all those different things. So I think >> that yeah because those will be on the official entities for next month. Um >> so >> I think you got to be really careful with being and like I said I don't care. I'm leaving. I'm done next month. But you have to be really careful with the team that you sit with and work with monthly to say this is where I stand. It shouldn't matter what else you have going on. Well, my priorities are different than yours that are different than hopes. Like, >> well, okay. When I argued last year to keep it on Wednesdays for this reason, there was a lot of push back, which I get the push back

143cuz I can't I agree with it, too. And I told everybody this is going to happen. And then we still voted for it. And I'm not it's what we decided. And then the very next month we tried moving it. I'm like, "Guys, we can't move board meetings every month. It'll come spring, there'll be March, we move one, then it'll be July. It just always will be. >> Wednesday was a Wednesday was a pretty good night for not having my felt going on. That's why they >> That's why they did it though. >> Well, and that what I only that's going to be an official >> ent state, right? But we could still do it if we wanted to. >> But also the only down state of the state that it also says the board can

144as long as it's have them earlier. or later >> or later. >> I'm not I guess I'm like Bill. I don't have skin game on then, but I guess I I I think you keep it on the same day. You might move it an hour or two if you think it helps you and just leave it. Leave it that >> and I'm in the same boat or same as both excuse me, can't even talk as those two. I will let you know if you go earlier, employers will require vacation be taken. So, something to be in consideration. And there are some that strongly encourage volunteerism. This is a volunteer situation. However, >> You have vacation if there are meetings between 8 and 5. >> I'm sorry. That's a tough point for me because what we

145decided last year. >> Yeah. >> But I think life's about flexibility as well. I also think though as the scheduling goes forward with the activities now I know it's hard to schedule hard to schedule because a lot of times those just rule but we can maybe look at some other days that's one Monday a month possibly we can move some of those activities we just can't now because they're already >> going forward we could move into now >> it'll be tough >> not now but you can go >> well they knew our meetings Yeah, we knew >> they knew that >> it'll be junior high football. >> I just was asking because not only is it your guys', but it's also the audience, too. So, that's something to consider. But I'm just saying that because

146it's going to be on your official entities as well as many other things as overpay. Um your guys just PDM for students and for that you guys just raise we usually go by the state uh pdium rates and mileage rates and stuff like that. Um if you want to make any um changes to mileage as far as how we pay mileage for families, those type of things that you need to start thinking about. Can you send that out or I I can send it out now so you can start thinking about those different things. Um just to keep in mind because >> these set by the state we we made a policy saying it's all the state right? >> Yeah. I don't think the state has followed the increase in gas. Maybe hope I mean

147>> Yeah, but they never follow. >> They just they just raised it last year, >> right? Gases, the gas increase that just happened, but I don't think you're going to see that because it might be short-term. >> I was going to say the prices of gas, I think, are too volatile to base our mileage. >> If they did raise it for gas, they wouldn't lower it when gas lowers. That's a moving >> correct point then. But I mean we followed PDM and finally for our staff and for us but I'm saying really the students that seems to be a lot better. I haven't heard I mean since we've increased that um if you want to look at our loss rates our entrance rates to sporting and activity um the rates for like the powerhouse memberships

148those type all those type of things that are on that official instance list you need to send it out. >> Yep. Thank you. All right, with that, thank you pretty much to 25 principal and superintendent report. >> Um, so I think I'm going to wait till August to present our state test score, assessment scores. Um, here's where I'm going with this. So, I have a call with Wade Pogani tomorrow morning. I would like to plan, but I guess you guys tell me. I want your input, too. A boardman retreat three to four hours where we update our goals. We look at our and what you do that you look at your data. Are we data that shows whether we're moving with these? If we want to change any of those. Um, also hook with that

149training. will have three to four new board members. I was hoping by I was thinking maybe mid August the August area time in there someplace. Give me your feedback. Is that something? I think those trainings are very beneficial. I think they're good reminders. Our board is a strong board, but we've got to keep reminding ourselves the roles that we each play on a board admin role. And I always last year I also had just a half day retreat. Our admin went um we just went to the golf course but we worked on goals. We worked on things for next year. Just we did that at the end of July I think right before school got going so that we were kind of all grounded. It's very important for school district to do that. I'd like

150your feedback on maybe what I should ask from way tomorrow. >> August is hard. >> That's hard. >> August is hard, but maybe the end of August would be better. I don't know. But then school has started already. I don't know. >> We don't We can do our admin work before July maybe would be a little better. >> I would do I would do it as fresh as here's my advice. I would do it before the new board members have a um have I don't know if you can jump ideally be before the first meeting almost because you go over some board govern board governance and there's some things that are not real easy to I guess know until you go to the training >> granting no matter what but their first full meeting is

151August so to your point if we do it towards the end of July first week in a could maybe >> and I would have it be like a um a roles and responsibilities training where a we talk about here's what's executive session, here's what's acceptable, here's what's not. Talk about um >> I think >> here's your relationship with the community. you're not the gobetween or those kind of things like they don't necessarily >> it's like he keeps repeating himself and I said I think our board wants that but if we can do it and I think it's going to take longer than three or four hours but that's just me but do that and then start with that and then move into touching on the bold and the record again and finishing with that because

152then we're leaving all the same page there. So maybe if admin comes they don't have to be there all day while we do the board part of it with the new members but then can come in >> later and you think before that August meeting so late Julyish. Okay, perfect. 27 to the 31st. It's class full week of >> um evening, late afternoon, evening better than >> I like evening myself, but yeah, >> evening works better for us, but >> Okay, I'll see what he can do. And >> I don't think she heard you. >> Sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was just looking at my coun. But um >> I was looking at the school board Mondays. >> Uh other things. I'm just going to keep going here. Um I think we're just about done

153with our end of the year reporting. It's a lot of reporting that we have to give the state. Make sure our data is accurate. Mr. Sakor, every one of us does some part of it and Mrs. Sundal does a huge part of it. I think I am just about done and it's due Friday. I'm going to an admin conference in Deadwood Wednesday through Friday morning. Wednesday afternoon through Friday morning. So, I'm going to go to that. Then I'm going to head off to Felissa um in Michigan the following next week. Monday though, I'm going to go to Spearfish. KSB is doing a behavior discipline um workshop. It's in response to another district having a lot of trouble with behavior happening outside school hours and the state law says we can discipline for that if it

154affects schooling things. If you think about you guys, we have teams and things going on all summer long, all the time. I think it's something we need to kind of be up on. Um, so I'm going to that. The other thing I have is I'm going to take a little time off. I think we got to be really careful. Hope and I talked about it earlier making a conscious effort. We don't have to be in this highrung intense I have to answer every email Sully sends all the time and she doesn't need to um expect an answer from you every minute and we live in this really instant world. Our minds have to take a little time off even if it's just sit at home and puddle in my yard. I'm going to do some

155of that. I've got the days I'm going to do a little bit of it so I can be back come July for good strong work. Um, we also need to update handbooks. I'm going to try to have those ready at least for the August meeting. Um, there's not a lot of changes, but some of those changes that you guys were talking about earlier, I think they those need to be reflected in our handbook. I think that's where they're at. Um, so may not be policy, but they are policy when you guys look at them and put your own. Well, policy committee worked on the books. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, any other questions? That's kind of what I've got going, what I've been working on. All the things I put in that email to you guys.

156um finish up the job descriptions, the five-year plan. Accreditation's coming. There's a lot of work that we got to make sure the teachers have that they're thinking about with accreditation review coming this coming spring. So, it's a busy summer. >> Thank you. questions for Sally. Um, item number 26 is executive session. Oh, can I add something? I forgot to my report. I approved um three open enrollment students. Um a sophomore and an eighth grade coming in sophomore coming in eighth grader from Stanley County and then a freshman from me county homeschooler that's a sibling to a student already going to school here. So um those are the open enrollments I approve. >> Ready? >> Yeah. I always makes a motion to go to executive session according to South Dakota by law 1-25- section one and

157suspended. >> Motion in a second. All in favor say I. >> I s motion pass against vote against real soon. >> I guess we go to the bathroom too. I had to sneak out during the meeting. Get ready to my