001[Music] Hi, welcome to being a chief dream officer, being the leader of your own life. My name is Nancy Caner and this is a program that I've developed. I lead chief dream officer training and what I love about it is it's a context in which you can lead your life and the whole point behind it is that you gain power in envisioning what you want being able to get organized around it to work through sabotage like actually disarm your private sabotur and then become a community leader around your dream. My thing is literally 20 years ago I had a dream and in the dream I was answering the phone saying the dream factory. Now this is very new to me. I had no idea what it was. So my job became well what is a
002dream factory? And in a very short period of time I decided it was community-based that you need a community of support to fulfill your dreams but you also need clarity. You need to be organized and you also need to know how to work with your private sabotur when it rears its ugly head when you think you're all primed up and ready to go. My point is I'm interested in people's power. I want you to be powerful in identifying your dreams and then being able to live them. So, we are going to go through the whole CDO training. We're going to do it very briefly so you have a sense of how it works. I also want to say and I hope you can see this. I have a workbook that's online on Amazon. It's called
003Chief Dream Officer Workbook. And if you put my name Nancy Caner in, it will you can get this actual workbook to go through the CDO training. I call it CDO for chief dream officer. It also has accountability sessions because once you create your dream creation plan in the CDO training, you can go to monthly sessions that are we call them circles but for accountability and support and that's a key element for having this kind of work work for you. So with that said, I want to introduce you. I have some wonderful guests here today. Uh the first guest I'm going to introduce is Amy Mosher Berry who I've known for over 20 years. Uh we've done a lot of personal growth work together. Um but more recently she has a company called Visions Internships and
004she is an amazing business owner and she has a huge commitment to young professionals and also to corporations so that they can create very profitable for them and very impactful internship programs for young professionals who want to come to their companies. So welcome Amy Mosherberry. >> Oh my goodness. Well, thank you Nancy Caner. I'll take you on the road. That was very well said. It was so fun to hear you talk about my dream and I love that I've known you for as much time as I have around the time that you got that dream, right? I've known you about that time and I had the privilege. I remember it was 2006, which was a rocky year, I believe, for both of us. I know for myself and I was so fortunate to be in
005one of your very early CDO trainings in the Worcester area. So, thank you for everything over the years and I'm so happy to be here and also to invite invite one of my young professionals and friends. Actually, Brian used to be in my college classroom many years ago and we've been I know harassing each other ever since. So, thank you for having us. >> Well, it's great to have you. And part of why I have Brian and Amy here today is the three of us participated in in a program that Amy put together with the help of Brian who's one of the young professionals. We're going to call him that. Um he's so lucky to be a young professional. We're so jealous. Um but he was but he was, you know, had a very key
006leadership role in that conference and he actually helped me get prepared as the keynote speaker for it. And I talked about chief dream officer training. So he's familiar. Amy is a little bit more familiar, but we're going to go through it so you can get the gist of it and actually be able to apply it to yourself in your life. So Brian, thank you. Welcome to Welcome. >> Thank you. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. This is awesome. You know, I loved hearing about your chief dream officer training and like learning about it for the second time and helping develop the little like the program and supporting that and being a part of vision internships and the career and leadership conference CLC 25. Yes. >> And I'm pumped to be here. Thank you. >> It's
007great to have you here. >> And I think it's true that I mean what's really good about this is I think that chief dream officer training works for any level of person, any gender of person. You just have to be a person. And it just is a context that you can utilize that can remind you that it's always important to access your power. >> I love that. And I love your commitment to lifelong learning, Nancy. >> Yes. >> It it's just, you know, it's like what's the next thing to learn? Well, what matters to you now? Taking a look at your personal values that shape your choices. Like you're always committed to the next thing. And that's super inspiring to me. >> Yes. And I've run the Dream Factory community in communities. At one point
008we had seven communities. We had one in Worcester, we had Newton, we had Conquered, we had Medway, we had Framingham, we had Reading, we had Bra. Okay, so you get the point. We had a virtual one as well. So we had communities all over and they all received co training and they went into circles so they they could have that accountability because the truth is I want dreams to come true. I am really not an airy fairy person. The only reason I talk about dreams in some respect is because I had that dream, >> right? >> And then I realized like okay dream factory it's about creating dreams. So then one day I just sat down and I wrote the chief dream officer training and literally that's not changed that much in 20 years. It
009was almost divinely inspired >> and it works because we've been implementing it because I have circle leaders. I have members who run circles. We've added New Year's workshops. We've added conferences. We have weekly gatherings. There's a whole curriculum that's been developed in order to have a dream factory run. And I have to share my dream is that, you know, I've done a lot of networking in my time and that's how we put our communities together. But now I would like to bring it to groups of people that are already together to see how this curriculum plays itself out when it's done for individuals, but you can also do a chief dream officer training for an organization. And I've actually done that. I've done one for thermoffisher. I've done one for Marave Life Sciences and I
010did a two-year project at Fidelity. So, I know this can work with corporate teams of people and I think that's a direction that I really like. Now, having participated in the young person's leadership conference, I think young people would be a great um group of people to work with. So, it could be maybe colleges. I know there are several people there from Clark University. It could get translated to a lot of different people. >> But I do have to say, and you can say more about that, but how my career has worked is that I become a chief dream officer myself. I have my own visions. I work, I get organized, I disarm my private sabotur, and I create a community of support. I'm actually really good at that >> so that the right things
011come to me. Mhm. >> So, I know part of this podcast is getting it out there. I want people to know this exists. It exists for you and it also exists for groups of people that you know. So, Amy, you wanted to say >> Well, I I love the qualification around Being a human being. I love the being overdoing and being a person. That's like the main qualification. So, I love that. I personally think especially in the work I do around intergenerational workforce development really connecting and empowering sort of all ages and stages people in the workplace and you know minding the generational gaps. I think personally that young professionals today and I sort of loosely say 18 to 35 you know the early career young professional I feel like you know as an overarching
012group especially in today's times young people are I believe truly like an underutilized untapped somewhat underappreciated human resource and asset that I really believe can you know when trained and supported properly and also listen to me. They have so many wonderful ideas. They're so tech-savvy. They're so self-motivated. I think they sometimes are misunderstood by today's employers. So, I try to sort of bridge those generational um gaps. But I love the structure you've put together. And I haven't even told this to Brian yet, but as you can probably hear in this sort of circle structure that NY's created over the years, that is sort of what I have in the back of my mind to support our newly launched YP network, the young professional network as a way that you've talked about. Well, how can the
013young people themselves support each other in between more formal sessions with mentors, right? It's this sort of structure that you make available that young people can continue to support themselves and really grow as leaders that they are. It's not like they're tomorrow's leaders. They're today's leaders and we need opportunities for them to express themselves, be heard, be taken seriously, right? Um I don't know, Brian, if you have any thought on how you see young people sort of organizing themselves today and then we'll hear more, Nancy, about of course the training that we're here. >> We're going to go into that. But yeah, I'd love to hear what Brian has to say. What's your feedback? >> I think that's so so valuable um that very often I think young folks can be misinterpreted by um a
014variety of different groups of people in the corporate world um in professional environments. I think it's important that very often, you know, there's apprehensions, there's lack of experience, um that as young folks, we have to develop to be able to have that confidence to be able to go in those spaces and and present well and to get our ideas across. Um but also have things on our resumes, our cover letters that support the ideas that we're kind of talking about. Like if we're talking about it, but there's no substance behind it, right? Then um it's it's kind of like, well, why why believe what they're saying, right? But if we have opportunities that are that are afforded to us that we can kind of learn and develop in together um with other young professionals but
015also with other seasoned professionals then we have kind of like cultivated these ideas um fleshed them out workshop them and then we have support as we're talking to other folks like we've done this and and this is how I can I can show you we've done this I've had this you know awesome internship program this awesome awesome like circle group um that I can have on my resume and it supports like >> the idea is that I'm that I'm speaking about as well. >> Great examples. >> Yeah. And I think community, as I said before, when you think about dreams, >> a huge element is the community that you surround yourself with. When I say community leader, that's the last fourth quadrant of being a chief dream officer. It's really being conscious of who you
016surround yourself with because it makes a huge difference if you have people that can really listen to you that you can and that you're clear like you have a vision like this is what I'm trying to create. You can be listened to seriously. You can plan goals and actions every month and you can be held accountable and supported. Like if it goes well, great. We can sh we can share your accomplishments on. But if it didn't go so well, we can help you get back on track. And then the key element, and hopefully we'll talk more about that, is the sabotur. >> Yes. >> Because you think, oh, I've got a vision. I know where I'm going. I did my goals and actions. I'm ready to go. But there's going to be an element that
017pops up that gets in the way. >> Exactly. >> And so, the more you can identify it, the big thing I have about that is you have it instead of it having you. And we will talk more about that later. And it's because we are human beings. So anyone who turns out is a human being probably deals with their own self-sabotur whether they know that or not. You know, certainly myself, all of us included. So, >> well, when you start having the conversation, people are more um and you know, we're in a group and we're here to support each other. People are more >> out there in terms of actually saying or getting clear what it could be because we tend to think it's real >> or we think it's just us. Oh, I'm the
018only one that has, you know, a a persistent struggle, you know, and it's really what stops us or what is perceived to stop us. And um you know later in the show once you go through the other aspects including the self-sabotur to become that self transformer I would love um for Brian to share um he recently asked some of our young professionals after the conference. Um you know what has you be stuck or feel stuck and to try to you know bring that into the conversation so they don't feel like they're alone or weird. It's actually part of being yet >> because accountability and support is important but at least you start playing around with like oh vision goals and actions co statement goals and actions. Okay. >> All right. How about for you Amy?
019Any goals or actions you could point to given your huge commitment? >> Huge commitment. I know. Well, I mean, I think the the fact that >> we had such an outpouring of love and excitement around our second annual career and leadership conference for purpose-driven young professionals, I think I've really gotten the memo. This truly is an annual thing that's going to be growing and because of incredible young professionals that are really helping to lead the way. It's not something that I need to be doing all the things. I can really like look to say, "Hey guys, what is it that you want? What do you need? You know, how can you show up as the leaders that you are and are becoming?" And so I feel like just allowing young people to really lead at
020an even higher level gets me very excited. Um because the other thing for me around my company that I'm very cognizant about increasingly so now is you know we had spent so much time working with work ready interns making sure young people have the support to feel work ready and supported and mentored. We realized that the organizations could also use some support to really becoming intern. So I am shifting a lot of our business focus with visions internships to helping the right two to four people inside of an organization could be for-profit or nonprofit. Help them design, set up, launch, run, and really scale their own internship program to meet their needs. So that's really the focus, especially now giving a lot more of the the leadership reigns to young people. Now I can really
021show up and serve the organizations. >> Great. So you can see two goals in that. Yeah, I see two goals in that. I'm sure you do too. And Brian does as well. And probably all of you have noticed this. So you you know one thing is to have the third annual leadership >> CLC. What is it? >> It's CLC 2026. And it I love >> But what does CLC stand for? >> Well, it's career and leadership conference. career and leadership conference for young professionals. And you can see underneath that some of the actions would be to have it more led by the young professionals beyond what they did this year. They did a lot this year, but it could be beyond where they're really taking the reigns and putting it together. So that's what that's
022a goal and you can definitely see the actions underneath that, >> you know. And there's 11 young people that came through this past conference on June 20th who want to be part of the CLC 2026 planning committee. So then and then our 2025 leadership team with Brian at the helm here. They don't want to go away. So how can they be sort of co- captains? How can they lead and support those other young people? >> I'm sort of seeing Brian stepping off and up and up and off. >> I know like I'm nominating you in public. So it's like actually being recorded. >> I think we have an idea here. But you can see goals and actions and then you know what you're doing with your company and shifting it to working with the corporate
023people and so they'll be ready for the interns to come in so the corporations have a good experience and the interns will have a good experience. >> I really see like I see I'm moving into sort of this like bridging of generations and really enjoying that. >> Look at you. You're in the air. Brian's here. I'm here. We're like it's all working. >> I know. I was concerned that Nancy, you know, this is her show, but she's not in the middle. But I guess it worked out cuz I think it's perfect of the of the of the bridging, but here we are. So, all right. So, we've talked about vision, right? So, we have the vision, we have the statement, and you have a sense of goals and actions. So, this is for you out
024there as well. If you know, if you're in your car, don't get crazy. You don't have to look at a box. >> Safety first. But you want to start thinking about what is your vision? What could your co statement be? Like, what do you want to create? and then look to see once you know what you're creating, it's easy to start picking up some goals and actions. >> It is really cool. And Brena, you know, as Nancy is breaking this down, I feel like coming up with goals and actions feels so much more doable. >> Yeah, >> I love that. It almost like once you know what you stand for, it's like that being needs to come before the doing. But once you're clear about who you're committed to being, the doing is there. And
025then you just sort of start to pick and choose what you're you say you're going to do, you know, cuz you say you're going to do it. Why? You say so. >> You say so. >> So fun. So that's a really good intro into the disarming. >> Let's see how we roll. >> We're a good team here. >> Disarming your private sabotur. Like I've talked about disarming your private sabotur since I think I started in 2002. >> Yeah. >> I did two things. I led it for the Malbor Chamber of Commerce when they wanted to have women focused programming. I did a breakfast and I think we had like 27 women show up. >> It it was really a great event in Malbar Center. And then I went to a conference in New York City.
026It was the National Association of Female Executives. And when I got there, and this was in 2002, I got there and they said, "Our um we oversold the conference, so we need more speakers." And they're going, "Would anybody want to volunteer?" I said, "Yes, I would like to volunteer." And they go, "Do you have a topic?" I go, "I have a perfect topic, disarming your private sabotur." And I ended up I had 40 people that showed up and they were great. They really interacted. It was fantastic. So this has been a tried and true. I've done it for the you know I did it for I used to do women and buds lunges. I did it for them probably earlier. >> It's been a long time coming here. >> But in terms of your framework
027the idea the reason that >> the reason that I fit it into the co training is that it's one thing to have a vision. It's another thing to have goals and actions. But then there's the next piece of what happens when the sabotur wears its ugly head. And the sabotur can be a variety of things. Sometimes it can be a strength that you think you have that way back when it carried the day, but it doesn't carry the day anymore. Like for example, I'm big from my history on I got this and doing it alone. >> I can do it alone. I don't need your help. But then as you're as I'm running seven communities and it's all about community and moving forward with our dreams, I couldn't do it alone. >> And I've worked
028for other places where I couldn't do it alone. And I had to shift from doing it alone, which was a great start as an entrepreneur, but then you have to bring in other people and learn how to work with other people and create partnerships. >> And that was a huge shift as to what I could possibly do because doing it alone just kind of narrows it. It makes it small. So it could be a strength that you have that used to carry the day and then you notice not going to carry the day anymore. I have to develop something new here. It could be the typical ones. Why don't you share with me what you think the typical ones are? >> Sure. >> That people say, and I know you talked to the the young
029professionals, what are some of the things that they set up to the conference? >> And I think it's important some of the young people weren't sure what the self-sabotur was or meant. So that's very helpful to break it down, give some examples. You know, it's really, you know, when we were breaking this down, it's like, well, what do they believe stops them? What do they feel keeps them feeling stuck or upset or feeling challenged? And I do want to hand it to Brian because he he did recently lead a session with um several people that had come to the conference and he asked them, you know, what keeps them stuck and I think we want to be able to follow up on August 7th with you coming in and we're going to be doing a
030co-raining that day around tools to help them disarm this self-sabotur. So I think they're at a place where they're just beginning to identify and articulate what do they feel keeps them stuck. So Brian, go ahead. >> Yeah. Um so I think one of the big ones too is that um um that I remember reading about that I also agree with and I think I mentioned earlier too was um the the piece around not having some of the experience on your resume. >> Yep. that can give you sort of like arm you with the confidence um to you know like feel that you can you know be in in in an environment or situation and feel confident about that. Um and then I think that something that coincides is confidence right like having the confidence to
031speak up and share ideas when you're not maybe not >> you know sure if it's the right time or the right place like but still sharing it and offering that that opinion that advice. >> Um so I think those are two big ones. Um, I know there are some more, but definitely some of the experience on the resume, on the cover letter. Um, but then also like the confidence piece. >> Well, and it's some people call it the dog chasing tail conundrum. You know, it's how do I get the job without the experience and the experience without the job. So, I think that's something that a lot of young people and people of all ages, especially if you're in transition of any kind, you know, you can feel like some version of I'm not good
032enough or I'm concerned they're going to figure me out. maybe a little bit of that imposttor syndrome I think is something that the young people said any sort of fear of the unknown not sure is this the right path and I also want to give decision me a shout out which was our afternoon keynote speaker um they're developing this incredible app and I'm so excited to be able to use it more but to help people make more concrete decisions so that they can trust themselves and make decisions with more peace of mind and confidence. So, I love that especially for young people and I love what you brought up about a lot of young people definitely tell me, you know, they're struggling. They want to feel more confident and like we've done some work. work.
033I know actually you had done a little bit I don't if you want to say anything about the selfworth piece um briefly because I think that's what's under um so sometimes people you might hear you know self-worth or self-confidence is almost interchangeable but I think this idea of people of any age doubting themselves and questioning their self-worth which is that more internal piece >> and then by extension it's like they want to be more confident which tends to be more external but it's like if you don't value yourself yes >> if you're not willing to take action which in involves taking some risk being willing to take imperfect action. You know it's going to be tricky to move ahead and try that new thing right if you don't feel you're worth it as a human
034being right internally first to then be able to come across as more confident externally. If you wanted to say anything about that >> well I think it's good to note that a lot of this stuff is internal. >> Yes. >> You know if you're saying I want confidence well do you go to the confidence store? I mean we how do you do that? You know I I think what ends up happening is that you have certain feelings. You could have certain insecurities for a variety of reasons. But where you can disarm the private sabotur the only place you can do it. It could be in your mind, but a lot of times it's hard to do it inside your mind because you think it's something out there, >> you know, or you see somebody else
035and you compare yourself to them like, "Oh, I can't speak like them or they have more experience than me." I used to do um I used to teach a business development program at Cropalo and people would talk about um you know, they hated business. >> They love their work but they hated business. But really what that told me is they didn't want to be out there in the world promoting their business. So they thought if they got another certification and some obscure thing that nobody actually knew what it was that somehow that would flip the switch like oh if I had that. >> But that's just taking you off the hook for taking external action when you feel a little insecure. >> Like you got to get out there. It happens on the court. If
036you don't get on the court, it's not gonna happen. And how you feel, it's okay to Yeah. But that's where we get to community of the sport. The support, which is the fourth element, >> is that you have people around you reminding you you do have experiences. >> Maybe you were a receptionist for your father who was a dentist. Maybe you taught you mentored somebody while you were in college. Maybe you, you know, if you actually look for it, you can find experience. >> That's so cool. >> And and getting on the court is what is necessary. >> And and once you get on the court, one of the elements that I bring into this, >> you know, self transformation and disarming your private sabotur is if you can identify these things that you do
037like not feeling good enough, >> right? >> Where does that come from? I mean, has there been a crowd following you around saying you're not good enough, you're not good enough, you're not No, it's in your head. It's in a very dark place and you're not in on the court. >> So, if you can identify it, get on the court and have it instead of it having you, if you have no insight into where that's coming from, you think that is a valid reason for not moving forward, >> you know. And again, because we're we're on this power punch timeline here. Um, we're not going to be able to get into like how you help people right now identify the self-sabotur, but do you want to just say something briefly whether perhaps this can be
038part of an invitation for folks to come? Really, anybody can join us on August 7th. It's a Thursday on Zoom 12:30. So Nancy and I are going to be co-raining and it's going to be a great opportunity for you to actually walk through the process of how you help people disarm their self-sabotur. You want to just give like a like 10 15 second on how you do that and we'll leave them hanging until August >> so hanging. Well, I do a har I do have a Harry Potter story that I use. >> And if you think about Harry Potter, he started out not so great. He was under the stairs in the cupboard and then Hagrid showed up and brought him to Hogwarts and you know before his magical powers were dissed and threatened and
039punished. And then at Hogwarts he had mentors. Yes. And this is speaking about community. So it had mentors. He had classes like disarming you know what was it? Um what is it? Defense against the dark arts. He had friends and he created a whole mission for himself. So rather than being this little boy under the stairs in the cupboard, he became something else. He became a famous wiz famous wizard who had power. And that's what this whole thing is about. Right. So let's dive in. >> Let's do it. Well, the first piece, the first piece is being a visionary. >> So that just means you see something, right? Some people feel things, some people see things, some people just know things, but you know, it's an element and you kind of start out saying, what
040are your skills and qualities and values that you want to bring to the world? >> Because that gives you at least a place to start from, right? Like if you're a great communicator, >> well, you could be a press conference person for somebody or you could be um an editor in a newspaper or you could be a speaker that travels the world and talks about something. You know, it it could have a lot of connotations, but it's good to start like, oh, communication, I'm really good at that. Speaking or writing, I'm really good at that. are of extreme interest in animals and their care and and and what you know what can we do to make their lives better. >> Um it's funny I was starting my dream factory this morning and somebody was talking
041about they're investing a million or so dollars in having a wildlife crossing in LA >> like a crossing over like 12 avenues or craziness. But other people started talking about that going, "Well, they've done it in other places and it actually works." >> So, but there's people who envision that >> like there's a danger to animals. Maybe we could create, you know, a crossing for them over the highways so they're not getting hurt. >> That's what you want to know about yourself. Like, what do you care about? >> You know, what are your values? What's important to you? So, any thoughts about that? Either Amy or Brian, like in terms of what's important to you? >> Yeah, >> I know Amy, you've already shared really about what's important to you in in terms of young
042people and young professionals and being an advocate for them in the kinds of programs you're putting together. Anything for you, Brian? What do you think your skills are, your interests? Yeah, I think my interests lie um in a few different baskets, but I'd say if I had to like think about the umbrella um I would say thinking about community engagement um being a problem solver um and also bringing people together um through different series of programming um it could be you know educational programming, it could be professional programming, could be sort of like extracurricular programming where we're developing um you know different hobbies or a sport, a a niche. Um, but also programming that's centered around just sort of fun, you know, having fun. I think that, you know, organized free time is one of
043my big ones, you know, and that could be, you know, curating a set of dinner parties um or a set of of like reoccurring uh pickle ball games for a certain group of folks that, you know, like you wouldn't necessarily have joined us unless it was cured for you, but now it is and come join. Um, it ends up being a fun time. people network and it and it leads to other avenues. But I think that kind of curation of uh programming is for for community is >> that's so cool. >> Yeah. Getting people in community to gather and do things together >> that makes you happy. >> Yes. Yes. And also I think the big part too is and it can live in other places as well but you know making an impact on
044the world that is >> you uh that's clear like that that is you you can see this impact it makes a difference >> and it's it has value. I want to be like have a value impact on the world positive value impact. >> Yes. Yes. It's like what transpires you never know what would transpire. Well, you know, you say, "Oh, pickle ball games." Well, you know, whatever. But, but if you really look into that more deeply, that could be a, you know, that could people's personal health. That could be the way they connect with the world. That's where they feel better and more confident about themselves. There could be a whole myriad of benefits to what you're doing if you just look. >> And that's exciting. So, that's good. Like, you kind of get that.
045That's good. And Nancy, if I can say something, what you said early on in terms of a key aspect of the first part of your four-part framework, which is visionary, and it involves personal values. And I know this is something that we unpacked a little bit more with Susan's help at the career and leadership conference. >> Sure. >> Um, but >> I think that's so great to remind people to know what they stand for and that that can change over their lifetime because if we don't know what we stand for, we can fall for anything. So it's so important like for example you know honesty and kindness for me are very high values and I also share impact um social and environmentally conscious impact um we both have Clark University ties and at least the
046it used to be challenge convention changed the world. So that idea of leaving this place a little brighter than I found it. So that's something I stand for greatly and I know to make sure I'm remembering those values as I'm making key choices in my work and in my life then I feel more balanced. I feel more complete, more myself, more confident by extension. So I love that piece of the visionary. >> Yes. Yes. And I think that's really important because I say they're the dreams that you are and the dreams that you have. So the dreams that you are like I would imagine Brian if I checked in with you like 10 years from now you'd be doing some sort of community organizing some kind. You know >> the vision changes. The purpose kind
047of stays the same like who you are, what you care about. Not that you can't develop new interests and new capacities. You can >> but the vision can change pretty regularly. Like I'm used to like in leading you know the CDO training I would have members that would definitely do the co training every year to see are they on track are they off track what's up now because in a year you can accomplish a lot of things. >> So it's good to check in you know you're still care about the same things but you might have a bigger vision as to what you can do beyond what you've done. Not that what you're doing is big or small, but a either bigger or different vision about what you can do. >> Well, and I know
048in prep for this, Nancy, we're not going to do the actual guided visualization, but I wanted to just give you an opportunity to say something about that process that was extremely helpful and inspiring to a lot of the young people that you led um during your morning keynote. And >> you know, what do you want to say about the visualization piece so that we can move into organizer and the other parts of your framework? >> So, here's the thing. It's the name of the visualization is your perfect day. >> Yeah. >> And it goes through the whole process of like you're waking up in the morning, you're excited, what are you going to wear, what does your room look like, you have breakfast, you want to be nourished by that breakfast, and then you're off.
049Where do you go? Who do you work with? What kinds of things? So, it's very I'm very entrepreneurial, so it's somewhat workrelated unless I'm working with people that I know that's not a good fit. But it's like, you know, I can play around with it. But you go through your whole day. What are the things that really speak to you? Who are the people you're with? Then what do you do after work? You know, are you with your family? Are you with your friends? Do you go to an art opening? >> You know, where people can just tap into it and get a picture and a feel too. >> Yes. And from that and then at the end of the day you're going to bed and your last thought is what a perfect day. Oh,
050you know how often do you do that really to bring that level of consciousness as to what >> what takes up your day and how do you feel about it? And I know the feedback that I got from the participants at the conference. One woman was saying, "I opened my window and the sun was on my face and I could feel it." >> I'm like, "Oh, that's amazing." You know, other people, you know, were having more clear visions about other things. I know. I mean, cuz I've been leading. Somebody had this vision that she wanted to paint her office yellow, like this bright sunflower yellow. I have no idea where these people where people get their visions, but they come up with stuff and the next thing you know, they're having a window that they
051open up the more and the sun hits them and it gives them a sense of inspiration. Or they paint their office yellow and it has a whole new feeling to it. It's kind of like trusting your intuition and your guided intuition that if you took it seriously, you don't have to do anything, but if you want to, you can make some changes. >> What's available? Like how often do we really speak about vision? What are you trying to create or what would you like? What would make you happy? What would fulfill you? >> Well, especially as a busy adult. >> Well, yeah. And we have very set. I'm big on the Matrix lately, you know, where it's all set and you're in the Matrix and you want to do the right things. You know, there's
052also another thing, what is it? The Hungry Caterpillar where it's a kids book and they're climbing up that tower and they're going and they're stepping all over each other and then they get to the top and go, "Huh? Why did I even do that? I don't even want to be here." And then they climb back down. So, I used to always say, "Hey, if you're going to have you want to have a vision because you don't want to put your ladder on the wrong building, right, >> and spend your whole life climbing up that ladder and then go, what was that about?" >> Yeah. >> You know, so it's where you can kind of separate out and envision for yourself. There's definitely standards and people want certain things from you. Maybe you want certain things
053for yourself. Maybe you want to prove yourself in certain ways, but I think it's good to step aside and say, "What do you want?" >> It's beautiful. >> What's the vision that's worth living into in your life? And that's the point of being a chief dream officer. >> Awesome. >> So, you have the vision. You see something for yourself. The next piece is how do you get organized around it? >> That's a really good question. >> So, the first piece is coming up with a chief dream officer statement. And it's a future-based I am creating statement. So sometimes that's a little tricky for people. But if you keep it simple and just say from your vision, I know we both did visioning and hopefully you participate. I'm sure you did. It's like what would you
054say you want to create for yourself and keep it very simple and it should be inspiring. It shouldn't just be like I want to get a car. >> You know, that could be a goal and an action inside of something. But if you were going to say given what you've already said about what inspires you, what could be a co statement? I'll start with Brian. Let's see what you can come up with. >> Good thing I was thinking about it for the last 20 seconds. >> Okay, good. 20 seconds. That's perfect. >> Okay. >> Um this is this is my first draft. So I would like to create um a sustainable model that allows for a d a diverse set of organizing amongst different communities. >> Okay. So it would be I'm creating a a
055sustainable model to work with diverse groups of people >> community you know community building you know type of thing but that's right I've done a lot of these so thank you I appreciate that thank you Brad I feel validated okay good so yeah but you know something of that nature is perfect for you right j you know use Amy's book jot it down >> use books >> use Amy's book we we I know. >> She's so prepared. >> We still have old school notebooks kicking around. >> I know. >> So, Amy, what would you say you're creating? >> Oh, I would say Nancy, I am creating a world where young people feel fully self-expressed and making the difference they're here to make. >> Awesome. Sweet and to the point, right? So, that's a good place
056to start. Now, the next step in the organizing factor is to be able to do some goals and actions, you know, and goals and actions are pretty concrete. So, I'm going to see if we can do this. Like, given what you just said, we'll start with Brian. What's a goal and maybe some actions you could take? What would be a goal you could set for yourself inside your co statement? >> Okay. Um, well, one goal I have that I'm working towards now is um I've always sort of sort of like aired on the on the becoming fluent in Spanish side. Okay. >> Um, but I'm taking it more seriously now. I want it to be a key thing that I'm I'm fluent in sooner rather than later. So, I'm going to go to Colombia hopefully
057if all works well in timing and everything. Um, and I'll I'll become fluent in Spanish or be more fluent than I was before. >> Okay. So you can see a goal would be so you're thinking about a certain population that speaks Spanish, right? Like Right. >> That would be great and you want to organize them, but it would be helpful if you could actually speak their language. >> Exactly. >> So your goal would be to be fluent in Spanish. That's a goal. And then actions, >> go to Colombia for this amount of time and study like do an immersion program in Spanish, >> right? >> Wouldn't that be? >> Oh yeah. You hang out with Ramon. >> Ramon. You could come to Taco Bell Cafe in Westboro, Massachusetts, and practice. There's a lot of people.
058And just given your magnetic personality, don't you just feel like people would want to be around you practicing and the whole thing around being willing to take imperfect action? I'm so proud of you for just like putting that out there and going for it at any age, any stage, just because. And it may not be the typical thing. And it's awesome. Rock on. But if you think about what you just said, so one goal to be fluent in Spanish, one of the actions is go to Colombia and do an immersion program. >> Hang out at Taco, what is it? >> Taco Bough Cafe or Taco Brow Food Truck. >> Oh, there you go. And so Ramon's part Amy's partner Ramon is the is the business owner of those two things. >> Exactly. >> So hang
059out with Ramon. That could be another goal like you know and go to that those two particular places and have conversations with with Ramon and other customers >> you know local we could come visit you in Colombia the possibilities are >> oh that but you can see how once you have that visionary statement that co statement goals and actions are not that hard we haven't talked about accountab how do you adjust things so you have some power and it's really the power just in some ways play I know that makes it sound tright, but to get on the court, to see your vision, to read your co statement, look at your goals, and take action. >> I love that. And what an inspiring future he's now living into. >> Harry's got a great future. He
060got married, probably, you know, Harry's in good shape. But so that but that's the point. Anybody can be that. Like if you're sitting back, say I'm sitting back here waiting to feel more confident or waiting to feel like, you know, there's always fear of success or fear of failure. >> If I'm sitting back waiting for something to shift, but I'm really not doing anything >> to make that happen. Inside this chief dream officer training, you have a tool and then you will have community around you to help you move through it because we want to see you living your dreams. Not thinking about your dreams, not discussing them endlessly, although that's fine, but to be on the court. That's why we have accountability circles. So, this moves into having a community. >> Let's talk about
061community. That's great >> because I think that's really the keys to the kingdom. But you want the right community. There's lots of places when you share your big ideas, people go, "Oh, really? >> W not so great. Who do you think you are?" Yeah. You know, and then you go, "Yeah, who do I think I am?" >> Feeds the self-sabotur. >> Well, it does feed the self-sabotur. So, that's why you want to be cautious about who you share your ideas with >> and that you set yourself up with goals and actions every month. You have you could be accountability partners, but then I like circles where you have a group of people or a community of people that you can share your accomplishments with. You can also share your challenges >> and get some support
062or coaching. Even that people hear what you're up to makes a huge difference if they actually listen. Like you don't want everybody sitting there on their phone while you're sharing your your your dream and what happened and it was so great and they're like, >> you know, you do not want that. You want people that are actually going to listen >> and support, you know, and hear on a regular basis. And I repeat, regular basis what you're up to. >> And Nancy, I'd love to hear Ryan if you're willing. So, if you want to speak to your own goal that you shared already, or if you want to share about maybe a conversation you've had recently with your friends, you guys are excited about what matters and what's next for you. And can you just
063say something about what difference does it make to speak those dreams and visions out loud to a supportive community? >> Yeah, that's a great that's a great notion. I think um well, I have a friend who I'm going to Columbia with that we're making plans with. Um and one of the things we identified in this in this experience, not just this trip, but this experience is that one, it's something that we can add to our resume. It's an action item that is going to like actually uplift our professional careers. can be fluent or work towards fluency in this this language. Um, but also as we're speaking out loud to each other, we're sort of like processing this idea and adding in and like going back and forth and it's further developing this this goal that
064we have and we leave our conversations, our text conversations on the phone with like more substance in that goal and we're getting closer to achieving it which is awesome. Um yeah, I think I think another piece too is just like you know we've hit some road bumps but then like finding the solutions in it >> in those road bumps is really important and also utilizing technology to support our like goal and finding those like solving those road bumps as well. Um big on tech >> well and and tech and and and problem solving. I mean that's something we've we've had some discussions you know you really you show up you figure it out. What an incredible skill set that is that is totally transferable to whatever you do next. So, I'm just >> This is
065why we I continue to hang out with Brian. We make excuses to continue to harass each other because you're you're very inspiring to me that you you keep you know you even you're you're willing to try that new thing. And I'm guessing that I'm guessing that your people who you choose to surround yourself, you know how sometimes people fall away, people are in our lives for a reason or a season. M >> right so you've probably even since college you know you've probably seen your community change a little bit >> right and I just think that's really cool to like give ourselves permission to change our mind to alter our vision even our values but to sort of see how who we choose to surround ourselves with makes such a difference in how things go
066and that we can choose what that looks like and it doesn't mean that it's a personal offense if you decide to sort of drift from somebody in our lives maybe for whatever reason they're not is supportive, but you can still wish them well and still choose to be around people that will support those dreams and goals. So, you keep rocking on. >> And they can be in certain categories. I mean, you could have bosses, teachers. I mean, you used to be Brian's teacher. Now, it's more like your colleagues, you know, so you can have those mentors and teachers, you know, out there, your bosses at work. And then you could have colleagues like people that are more on the same wave and you're co-creating with them. Not that you can't do that with your bosses,
067you know, but people are in different categories and they can change around which is exciting. And then you have the people you serve. >> So like as you're planning this trip, keep in mind how this could impact who you can serve because I know in your heart of hearts that's what you care about. >> Yeah. >> That's what you care about. And I think that's the coolest thing ever. So I mean the whole thing about you know I want to wrap this up but the thing about being a chief dream officer that there's a passion and a purpose to it >> that you feel good about it not like okay I got to do this because I have to prove myself or I have to feel more confident like that's not the game to play
068>> not the vibe >> it really isn't it's kind of saying what could I be enlivened by what is my true inspiration how do I want to make my ultimate contribution And that what we have in our chief room officer training is a process you can go through and if you do it with others which I highly recommend you have you have a built-in community of support that will know how to listen to you and support you in all the right ways so that dreams your dreams come true and that is the point. So I want to thank my guest today. This is a very for me I found this a very inspiring conversation >> to have it with you. Having you know gone through the conference with both of you >> I feel like
069this was a more concrete way to give you the benefit of what people can get from co training and for you to get more of the benefit because we're all here. We're all creators. >> Yeah. >> Isn't that a good way to go through life? You're always creating because if you stop creating >> it all kinds of it all kind of stops. So I'm a big advocate of being a CEO, continuing to envision creating your plans, disarming your private sabotur, and then having a community that helps you live true to what your dreams are. So I hope this has helped. If you want the book, it's on Amazon. Just make sure you attach my name to it, Nancy Caner. And I really appreciate you listening in today. And as always, I hope you live your
070dreams and I'm here to help. Thank you. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music]