001Good evening. Big group tonight. We all thank you for coming. I want to welcome you and call to order this workshop of the Floresville ISD Board of Trustees for the date of June 8th, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. Let the record show there is a quorum of board members present. Myself, Steven Schauer, Mr. Craig Muecke, Mr. Marshall Fleer, Dr. Joe Odom, and Mr. Shellhouse. Furthermore, let the record show that this meeting has been duly posted in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act. This is an open meeting and we welcome members of the public to observe. Please note that the public comment should be reserved for the public comment portion of the agenda. We kindly ask that no comments or questions be made outside of that time. Should you have any questions or comments, you're welcome
002to contact the administration directly. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Does each of you have any public comments? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, thank you, ma'am. The board will now continue with agenda item three to consider approval of the interlocal agreement with the Wilson County Tax Collection. >> Uh yes, board member. >> Once we posted the agenda regarding this item, we did get some updated information from the tax collector, the collector's office, and so we have no recommendation at this time. It'll be added to a future agenda item. We just want to make sure we're getting it right with some new laws that came into effect and how we have to name the person that's going to collect our taxes. So, have no action item at this time. It'll be on future agenda. >>
003So, is this a representative that represents us for 1 year? >> No, no, no. This would be we're designating a person to that's going to determine our taxes levied got you as well as collecting our taxes. Which we already it's Ms. Barnebey. We just want to make sure we get our wording right in the interlocal agreement with the new law. We posted what we did last year. She contacted us and said, "Hey, it's changed. You need to post it this way." So, by that time we'd already posted it and couldn't change it. We'll have it in a future agenda. >> So, we will not need to ask for a call on those of those there. >> No. No action. No recommendation. No action. Now, we will now uh continue with agenda item four, budget workshop
004presented by Ms. Angle. >> [clears throat] >> Good evening, Mr. Shadrack, Dr. Newstrom, and members of the board. Um this evening we will go through our budget workshop presentation as we do this similar to every year. Um just obviously with updated numbers, with updated information. So, um looking at the agenda for this presentation, we're going to do a 2025-2026 budget update, a 2026-2027 budget development, looking at the the pieces there that we always look at every year to develop that budget. Um look at our proposed uh 2026-2027 budget. Um and then questions at that point as well. But if you have questions as we go along, please feel free. So, looking at the 2025-2026 budget, this is where we are as of June 4th. Again, you can see the difference between those numbers. Again, please
005remember that our year-to-date um we have lagging revenue there. So, we have accrued our revenue that is is due to us, receivables from the state. Remember, our year is July 1 through June 30th. Their year is September 1 through August 30th. So, we have the bulk of our money coming in, or payment costs to districts are the bulk of our money come in June, July, and August. Um again, you can see the three Those are the three funds that you guys do approve every year, the general fund, the child nutrition fund, and the debt service fund. >> Excuse me. Let me Let me apologize. Let Let the record show that Dr. the Martinez joined our our meeting at 6:04. Welcome. >> Thank you. I'll go ahead and get started with that. >> Um looking at
006our receivables for this year, again we have June taxes that will still come in. Um we don't see those We don't see those numbers until beginning of July. They send us the report. So, we have June taxes still coming in, some interest, and our state FSP or finance foundation school program payments of about 9 and 1/2 million dollars. So, we still have owed to us close to $10 million for for the year. Looking at the expenditure side of things, again, you can see those expenditures are a little bit higher. Again, we're we're closing out the year, getting close to those 12 months expenditures. Um but again, the revenue is flat. So, again, child nutrition and debt service, you can see there. Um we have current salaries that we still have to pay out through August
007of a little over $5 million. Our DEA settlement will probably be around $300,000 and we have open POs still about $300,000. So, um remaining expenditures as of last Thursday, about $5.7 million. So, if we go ahead and look at the budget estimated totals for this year revenues versus expenditures, you can see there we have revenues of $42.8 million approximately, expenditures of $43.8. So, we're looking at a reduction in our fund balance of about a million dollars for this year. Again, we were expecting that with our um uh enrollment in ADA being down this year. That was not what we budgeted on those numbers. But looking at our fund balance as of last June, we were at $12.2 million. TEA recommends 10.3. So, we even if we take that million dollar hit, we're still going to
008be above what TEA recommends we have in fund balance. Remember last year we put a little over $900,000 into fund balance. So, it's just a yearly we put in last year, we're going to take out this year. So. Any questions on that? >> So, most of that is driven by enrollment. >> Correct. That is our total our total income. Yes. So, it doesn't matter if it's state, local, based on our ADA and our enrollment, that's where we're getting our our money from. The budget aside from our budget is not going to be a problem this year with those cuts. So, looking forward at our budget development for this next year, um what drives our revenue again, average daily attendance, our property tax collections, and our and House Bill 2. That was from last year, but
009it there's still a lot of components of that bill that we're still unpacking, that the state's still unpacking, that the TEA's still unpacking, especially our our um sped funding, things like that that they're still trying to interpret what what the law really did and what it means. Um, again, our revenues are based on M&O, our ADA, and our basic allotment, our I&S or the I or or the interest and sinking fund um property values and bond payments. So, that's your two pieces of your tax rate that is that is fueling this. So, looking at assumptions for this year, enrollment enrollment, we're looking at 3,900. That's up a little bit about 20-ish kids from where we we were this year um ended this past year um and looking at a maintaining an attendance percentage of 94%,
010which would put our ADA about 3,572. So, we ended about 3,565 or 62 this year. So, that's bumping it a little bit, but not a lot. >> And those are conservative assumptions that we make. So, we want to try to be as conservative we can when we build a budget. >> Correct. Looking at our preliminary values, that does say increase, it does not. It should say decrease, I'm sorry. I missed that one right there. Um current year property value, so if you look at our 2025 ser- uh certified values from last year, about $2.3 billion in value. Um our preliminary values for this year about $2.2 billion. That's a 4% decrease in value about 98 million. Um I did reach out to the CAD to see what that was because I know most people on
011their actual tax appraisals that they got went up, not down. Um so, when she she told me it's based on House Bill 9, which is how they value business property. So, she said the way they've changed the way they value business properties and taxes on business properties has pretty much wiped out almost all the business accounts in the in the county. So, they're they've raised their levels of how much they tax on on business real property. And so, that's why we're seeing the decrease here in our in our property values. It's not residential, it's business accounts. >> It's not rooftop value. >> No, no, no. It's business. It's business values. So, again, like I said, she Jenny did pull away who was your last week. Um I did reach out to her just cuz uh
012very strange to me. And and that's what she said it all the business accounts that that this new bill has pretty much wiped out all their business accounts in the county. So, again, certified values, we'll receive those July 25th as required by law. Um and that's what the local taxes will be based on. We're looking at our also we have to put in a collection rate. We're looking at a 98% collection rate. We usually do pretty good around here collecting our taxes. Again, looking at the different uh tax components, uh the the two different components that comprise a district's tax rate, we're looking at the M&O rate or the regular operating costs of the district and I&S or bonded indebtedness payments. Um those tax rates must be adopted no later than September 30th of this
013year and they will be on the agenda for September 14th is our September meeting where we will be adopting those rates. Any thoughts on that? We'll look at actual numbers in a little bit, but any thoughts on questions on the development there. >> Do you think we're a little bit too aggressive on enrollment? Maybe we know this will be the year we'll see the school vouchers. >> Correct. >> So, you're budgeting up just a little bit from where we're going to end the year. Do you think that's still >> I don't think so. I think I mean just looking at kind of and hearing what who who has applied for vouchers, it really isn't our demographic of kids or or it's been people that have been in private schools previously. So, um um I don't
014see it affecting too much, but who knows? We're all in this together. Who knows? Stay >> It's [snorts] it's it's a calculated guess, I would like to say. >> Right. >> It's just I don't think we expected our enrollment to drop as much as >> No, we didn't either. >> It did drop to over 100. >> Yes. Yes. >> Hey, I I think there'll be there'll be some impact, in my estimation, but I don't think it's going to be anything drastic that's going to greatly affect the budget. But again, I could be I could be wrong. We could have some kids come back that went home school this past year. Um so, we'll we'll have to wait and see what those numbers look like whenever we start school on first day. The first week of
015school will be critical. Um but yes, I I don't know how much that voucher impact will have. >> Okay, well, I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Donish to talk about compensation. >> Good evening. So, what tonight's presentation on compensation will look at the estimations of how much it would cost um for staff raises and other things that are directly affecting um the staff. This is our teacher salary scale. From the zero to 30-year teaching bands, um we brought over the same numbers from the previous year. Um our classroom positions our classroom teaching positions are also eligible for the TRA, which is the teacher retention allotment, which I'll um discuss on next slide, and they are also the classroom teaching positions are also TIAA, the teacher incentive allotment eligible. [cough] So, as you um
016remember from last year, our teachers received in the blue area the $4,000 raise from last year and all of the pink are that $8,000 raise um, that teachers received last year. So, the classroom teaching positions are also eligible for that TRA, which is the at the 3-year mark and the 5-year mark before and $8,000 that they did receive last year. And that will also be a flow through money from the state. The state gives it to us, we give it directly to the teachers. And that will be the same this upcoming school year. As well as the teacher incentive allotment, as you know, this has been our data collection year. So, our teachers, our classroom eligible teachers that are awarded should first see their money in August of 2027. So, if they are awarded, they
017will be designated, we'll let them know in late spring, and then that money they should receive um, next August. But those are our horizontal specific Floresville ISD campus averages for the different um, allotment levels. And uh, classroom teachers are eligible um, for that money. >> And there again, those those ratings are based upon student outcomes. >> Student outcomes, well, the the recognized exemplary master the actual amount are based on our district. Um, our eco dis and if we're designated rural or not, um, these North campus elementary, North elementary, numbers were a little bit different, a little bit higher because they were designated last year as rural. We hope when the new um, averages come out that more of our campuses are designated rural, but those are the FISD averages and they'll change every year and
018we expect them to go up a little. >> And the yes, the the teacher um evaluation as well as student growth >> Yes. >> are the main factors that determine the travel and growth of the teacher. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> So, this is a summary of >> Yeah, yeah. Before you go, that says draft down there at the bottom. >> Yes. >> I was just wondering why it says draft. >> This draft. This is a draft. >> you're right. It was a draft. >> So, this is just a summary of the cost of our raises if we were to give raises and then how much. Um the teacher step, which all teachers if they move from I might I had 3 years of experience this year, next year I'll have 4 years of
019experience, so I'd go to that next ring on the scale um for all teachers, all 267, that'd be $128,000. And we have it broken down between exempt and non-exempt staff, and happens to be the exact same amount of money. It's $63,000 per 1%. So, that if you just gave the 1% and the teacher step, that would be an estimation of a $254,000. Um you can do the math per 1%. Oh, if 1% of uh $126,000 would be 2%, $189 would be 3%, and so on. So, um this would be the cost estimates um of those raises. >> So, we do we typically break it down by 1%. That way as we're doing our budget, we see, okay, we have this much money, we have this much money, okay, what's 1% cost? Okay, we can we
020can do the math. Multiply that times two, three, four. Hey, we want to give this this group a 5% raise and this group a 3% raise. We break it down to 1% so we can do the math uh easily. And so, and we'll we'll talk more about that in a minute whenever this angle comes back up, but that's why we break it down to 1% just so whenever we're doing our budget planning we're able to do it that way. >> You with that? Budget allows. So, other information and considerations for benefits proposal and the benefits estimation, of course, are our insurance. So, just a little refresher, we still have no not seen any increase from the state how much the state of Texas gives us for our insurance benefits. It's still $75 and that's still
021the same since 2012. Floresville ISD currently contributes $400. So, the state minimum is 75. That's what they give us. Um or I'm sorry, 275 is the state minimum. They give us 75, but we contribute 400. Um that is an increase. We did increase $50 from last year. We have about 320 employees that currently take our insurance. That's about 55 or so percent of our staff. The average um for the Region 20 area is $430 a month. And currently we're contributing 400. So, just a budget implication when budget planning, it's $95,000. That's the cost to increase 20 to go up $25 per monthly um per month contribution. So, if we were to raise um we would if we went from 400 to 425 a month, that would be $95,000. So, our information that I'd like to
022share with you tonight is um Floresville ISD, we just received back. Uh we did go out for we have to every year um do a insurance request for proposals for a new insurance carrier. Our insurance carrier is currently Blue Cross Blue Shield. And we're currently at a loss ratio of 157%. That means for every $100 Blue Cross collects, they're paying out 157 to, um, to doctors and hospitals for our insurance care. So, that means they're losing 57% on top of what they're actually paying out. Now, if you're in the insurance business, you would like to have a business or a school district run it about 70 or 80% because then you're making 20 or 30%. So, Blue Cross, our medical insurance company, is is losing a lot of money on us. So, Blue Cross, therefore
023Blue Cross was the only responder to our RFP. And their proposal that they submitted was a renewal increase of 59%. Um, we're still in negotiation with them, looking at different plan designs, seeing if they could decrease that renewal percentage a little bit, but it's going to be a significant increase to our medical insurance. Um, all of our supplemental plans, like dental and vision, um, life insurance, they look to be all consistent. There should be no change in those. This is the medical insurance. >> So, one thing to think about, first of all, 157% loss ratio is huge. And obviously, it's it's outside of our control. We, we we just work with our staff to try to educate them, but whenever we put this out for RFP, and people would bid on, you can understand why
024we didn't get any bids. People look at our numbers and go, "This is just this is not possible." Uh, and from a business aspect. So, Blue Cross Blue Shield did renew us, but it's it would be a 59 They estimate to be a 59% increase. One thing to think about is it's 59% increase of the cost of the insurance. That if we don't change how much we contribute, the employee is going to feel every bit of that increase. So, let's just say your insurance costs $500 a month. We pay 400. The employer pays 100. Well, if it goes up by 50%, that means your insurance is now $750 a month. If we're still paying 400, that means the employee now pays instead of 100, they're paying $350. So, understand the employee didn't go up by
02559%. That's how much the total cost goes up. And that's why we were throwing that number out there about one of the benefits we could look at, you know, incorporating into our our compensation package could be an additional uh contribution to that insurance cost. So, because that that's substantial. That is huge for a family and or a single mom or a a teacher on a teacher salary um or even two teachers in the district. That's a big big impacts on the take home pay. So, >> So, when we look at raises >> just being open and honest, being as as again, transparent as we can be. Here's the numbers. This is what we got. >> So, when we look at raise estimations, we need to factor in if we wanted to increase that insurance contribution
026along with the raises for teachers and our other staff members, then we can combine that. Are there any questions? You What percentage of the of our district uses the insurance? >> About 55%. 320 employees and we have about 560 right now. >> We have 560, but the cost >> over half. >> I got a question. >> Yes, sir. >> On the um savings of uh not running a bus an extra day a week, and not heating and cooling buildings for an extra day a week, how much money did we save that way? >> I do not have the answer for that. >> Somebody ought to be able to figure that out. >> That would be something that Ms. Angle may be able to answer when she gives her portion of the presentation, but I don't
027know that we have that number. I do I do know this, the cost of diesel has gone up in the past year, which whenever we built our budget, we did not know. So, while we may not have rolled as many miles, we have paid, I would say, comparable amount in our total diesel cost now. Uh the same thing with energy costs. So, I don't know I don't have a final budget number to be able to >> I'd like to hear one. >> We can We can do that research and get it to >> Any questions on the raise estimations? >> Yeah, I got another question. Um I would like to see the district fund a day camp North Elementary and South Elementary next spring for that uh Friday that uh we're not having school. Otherwise,
028we're going to have parents pick whether they want to leave their children at home alone, elementary school children, or whether they're going to try to drive into Floresville, which is about 15 to 20 mi wrong way, get behind a bunch of lights, and then go the other way. If they had it at North Elementary, there would be less than half the time lost. And um really, we have a recitation all the time, and the last one says, "Trustees provide student-centered and fiscally responsible leadership and transparent and ethical support of all stakeholders." And I don't think if we can't uh come up with some money for these students here that we make a mockery out of what we're doing. >> Right now we're we're talking about compensation with Miss Angler. >> Any questions about that? And
029then Miss >> Yeah, we're we're we're we're going to come back up. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions about compensation? >> One for both of you. >> So there again, you're talking about $25 increase to help them. It's going to cost us 95 grand. So if in his example, if we go up 50%, >> Yes, sir. >> I mean, we'd have to add that considerably to keep them whole. >> It'd be $900,000. >> Yes, sir. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Okay, moving forward to the proposed budget for 26-27. Um we're going to go ahead and look at the projected general fund revenue for 26-27. We have the 27 year on the left and the 26 on the right. Um you can see there the difference between federal
030revenue, state, and local. Um looking at our totals down there at the bottom, there's your million dollars decrease in the general in the general fund. You can see the chart goes down a little bit. Um again, the size of our budget just depends on on how how many our ADA our enrollment. Um and then the state and local just kind of fluctuates depending on that, but the size of the budget stays the same. So this is looking at our our decrease. So our reductions here, we can look at local, there was there was none really um reduction in a million dollars at the state level due to decrease enrollment in ADA. Um nothing changing with the federal. Um looking at reductions there at a million dollars. On the expenditure side additions, the only thing we
031would look at would possibly be raises. Um again, that's something we'll continue to look at as we continue to look at this budget and and tweak things before our meeting on the 24th. Um but again, we're going to try to find every everything we can to be able to give some kind of raise to our staff. Um very deserving of it, but it's just hard when we're seeing an increase in enrollment. Um looking at our changes in expenditures, reductions, we have approximately three FTEs that we were absorbing for the year. That's about $210,000. Our track refurbish refurbishment, excuse me, that we did this year about 350, and then some maintenance projects that we'll take out about $700,000. So, we're looking at total reductions of a little over $1.2 million right there. >> So, So, we
032did have some things we built into this year's budget, the 26 budget, and maintenance projects and the track, for example. Obviously, with the number we're seeing now, we're pulling those projects out of the budget. So, that's where we feel like um you know, we're we're going to be able to reduce that. Now, if you notice, we talked about that this year we're about a million dollars short. So, we're building next year's budget based on these numbers. So, that's the other way in that we're going to >> We're assuming ADM stays about the same, so that is what we're expecting our revenue about the same, but we're planning to cut about 1.3 million in expenses [snorts] to maintain that. >> Without having to dig back into the general fund. >> Without having to tap into the
033fund balance or retained earnings. Yeah. >> So, again, we look So, looking again there, so we look at the million versus the 1.26, so that's kind of there right there where we can with our raises or uh contributions to insurance or whatever we may choose to you guys may choose to do with that. Um looking at the food service revenue, we're pretty much expecting it to be the same. Down it's a it's a self- operating uh fund where you know we get the federal money's in for for the claims on the uh on the national school lunch and breakfast programs. And we did operate the afterschool dinner program this year. That worked really well. So we'll continue doing that. But again, looking at local revenue down a little bit, that's students paying for meals. But
034again, pretty much pretty much operating about the same. Again, it's a balanced budget, $2.5 million. Debt service, again, we're looking there at total revenues. Again, this is just to pay our our bond payments. And we've got about 4.595 million dollars in bond payments which are due next fiscal year. So again, that one that's a balanced budget as well. I did have and I failed to pass these out before I put your out. This is the way you guys normally see the budget by function every year. That's how you approve it. I need to show one more I got it. I do not have it. I just didn't print it out. So again, you see draft across that. But again, that's that's looking at these three three funds total together there at the 50.5 million dollars
035on revenue. Looking at the bottom there at the 50.5 again just to balance the budget. Again, if you look at the the function 36, that's where the track was. We reduced that by 350. Function 51 is where the 700 was that we uh had for maintenance projects. So we reduced that there. So again, looking at it there to look at that as a balanced budget. >> The three FTEs came out of the instructional level. >> Yes. Yes. And >> So so this has a salary [snorts] increase of how much in there? >> This doesn't have anything right now. >> It doesn't have no salary but this point with no raises, no increase in medical costs, we've got a balanced budget. >> Yes. Perfect. >> Okay. With the big assumption that enrollment will be where we're
036going to >> All right, yes. >> Right. >> And again, that's our crystal ball just looking at that's what we think. Where we'll end up, we're not sure. So. >> So we are we continue to work with the budget, continue to analyze it to squeeze every penny we can out of it while still maintaining operations. Um we know there's some large things out there whenever it comes to HVAC, buses we've been talking about, obviously compensation. Uh and so we're we're really trying to hone in on those things and so we'll have more. Obviously, this is just a budget workshop. Uh we'll help hopefully have more by the 24th whenever we do have our other meeting. Uh one thing that we do have built in the budget now, like we did last year, was last year
037we gave everybody the check in the fall. Um that was really nice, it was great, it was built into the budget. Now, you can take that money out of that particular category and you can give it to them as salary. So you know, that would work out to whatever that number would, you know, I'd have to go do all the math. So I mean there's some things like that that we can pull out and give back to employees as salary. Just You're just moving this over here and paying this over here. So there's a but there's other things we're still analyzing. Got to make sure we're maximizing everything. But there again, to go back to Mr. Showers' question. So yeah, we we think we possibly saved a little bit when we went with this different
038school schedule but yeah, diesel fuel costs probably ate ate up most of that time more than that. >> Well, the energy and electrical costs and everything went >> And as we talked about whenever we talked about the calendar went to one this year, it wasn't for huge cost savings. That was not driving factor. Driving factor was teacher recruitment uh retention. And so, and obviously we we got good feedback from families, and students, and staff, all those kind of things. Did we anticipate there'd be a little bit of a cost savings? Yes. >> Maybe. >> It was not That was not a driving factor. >> But there again, it was more of that that school family balance. >> Correct. >> As well. >> And like I said, the retention. >> Attracting and retaining qualified educators. >>
039Yes. >> When um you said that we could pull money from that check and put it in the salaries. When they give the extra bonus check, does that go towards their salary for their uh retirement? >> No, configuration. >> No, because it's not for doing something not for Yeah, teaching or whatever. It It was just a >> It does not go towards retirement. >> No, it's not TRS eligible compensation. And again, it's not something you have to sustain sustain every year, either. Rather we have to with the salary. Right, correct. >> Technically, you don't have to, but if you don't, there'll there'll be a lot of questions. >> [laughter] >> So, is there any other possibilities for sources of revenue? I mean, is there anything else out there? I mean I mean I mean, we
040could sell sponsorships. We I mean I mean what >> There are some opportunities, like for example, sponsorships, things like that. But those are not going to generate to the point of >> millions of dollars. >> Correct. It's not going to generate that much revenue. Now, there are some big things out there. I know right now um we have an early tax payment um reward, I guess it is. You get a reduction if you pay your taxes and discount. >> In October, you get a 3% discount. November's 2%, December's 1%. Pay it January 1st or beyond, then it's you have to pay the 100%. So, that is out there. Now, it cost us the same old Do you remember what that is? >> It's about 300. >> $300,000 is what is the cost savings to our
041taxpayers. That is something that we can pull back that discount that we generate some additional revenue doing that. But that would be back back to the taxpayers. >> So, I mean the taxpayers could see that as a tax increase for them. >> Correct. For sure. Okay. >> Okay. Um are there any other questions at this point? Um just as a reminder the public hearing and adoption of the fiscal year budget 2027 budget, sorry, um is June 24th at 6:30. That will be our next meeting. Um public hearing for adoption for the 2026 tax rates is September 14th, 2026 at 6:30. That will be our our monthly meeting in September. >> So, we started looking at these things, especially on the the medical. I mean, we've got about 320 of the 561 participants. So, you know,
042that cost is, you know, potentially not going to be be be absorbed by every employee. >> Correct. >> So, I mean, that that's a strong consideration. Similar deal, I think Mr. Shellhouse is asking, you know, what what is that cost to have duplicate Friday care? I mean, that would be an additional cost. We'd have to have a counselor every and we're going to have to commit to a minimum headcount at each campus regardless if they show up or not. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Currently, it's 34 is what I'm looking at as to do a Friday camp. We guarantee that we're going to pay them for 34 slots. Now, if 30 kids show up, well, we're paying for 34. But if kids show up beyond that, then we'll obviously pay up that difference, too. Um
043but yes, if this past year we put $100,000 in there in the account for that. This budget it reflects a $75,000 allowance for that because this year I think we were just under $50,000. >> So, we're seeing a smaller >> Correct. smaller patient than what we thought. >> What's the average daily bid on that? >> Uh I I have not done the first semester, but in the second semester the average daily was I was just working on it before I came down here. Uh 51 was the average daily attendance for the spring semester. Uh in the fall semester it was 74. >> So, fall semester dropped about 23 kids. >> Um and I'm still working on percentages and and all that kind of stuff for weekly. I do know that overall, if you count one
044student, if they go one time they count, you had 84 students uh attend at least one day in the fall, or excuse me, in the spring. We had 128 students in the fall that attended at least one time. And but on average it was 74 in the in the fall and 51 in the spring. >> So, there again, we would have to commit to a minimum at each. >> We'd have to commit to a minimum of 68. >> Wow. Okay. >> Because that would be 34 at each side. >> So, that is a minimum that we have that we can commit to. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, just being said that, I mean, more likely we'd be overpaying based on >> If it was a split perfect 50/50, you would still be overpaying by that
045amount. >> Lindsey, on that insurance, was that just big medical issues with staff, or is it just primary everybody? >> It's a combination. We had a very high usage on our pharmacy. Um but just in general, if you look at the factors, I mean, insurance is is up, medical costs are up just for everything. Um but we do have a particularly high uh pharmacy usage in the district, and that was one of our Of course, there's your um We have some big claims uh just like everybody. Um but our stop-loss insurance is kind of like an extra insurance policy to get those giant claims. Um but we had a lot of little claims and our pharmacy usage very high. >> There again, if I remember we have one more year till we potentially >> Yes,
046sir. >> are back into the TRS plan. >> In December, we can declare our intent to get back into the TRS ActiveCare system where we um can have a more consistent um it might be um It won't fluctuate as much. >> go into all the Region 20? So it's a larger pool, so our 157 loss ratio might go down to 120 something. >> will go into the entire state. TRS cares the whole state. So it will So yeah, you're going to split that among a bunch of bunch more people, which will probably bring it down. TRS rates are now regionally rated, so Region 20 has their own rate um which is traditionally one of the lowest one of the lower rates in out of the 20 regions, but um we could look at some type
047of um fee that TRS might assess for us to jump back into TRS ActiveCare. They have not told us that yet. They probably won't tell us until after we um decide that we after the deadline to declare, but when looking at this loss ratio, I would think that um it's probably going to be um a more consistent rating um than what we're currently than what our usage history is telling us. >> So, I mean I mean we've the school district has done a good job over the years to try to maintain balanced budget. A lot of that's been the hard work and all the efforts and the research I've done to give us good information. We got to remember I mean when we're looking at we're looking at trying to retain and attract staff. I
048mean you know we got to look at what's the what's the betterment of the entire teachers the 3,800 some odd students. So, we have to look at all of them and it's so you know sometimes there's going to be tough tough decisions but you know we got to do we got to make the right choices based upon the information we have. And sometimes you know it's it's it it may be painful that we can't we can't do everything. We have to pick and choose and unfortunately that's that's the choice we have. We want to be one of those districts that always have a balanced budget versus those that we see on the public TV that choose to do other. And we don't want to be in that position. We don't want to put our our
049students so we don't want to put our families and our communities where we spend and we don't have that money. So. And then you know we've we've talked about that many times. >> As a board you can do anything you want to but you can't do everything. >> Okay. Um okay questions we we've answered that. So, there's anything else not that concludes my presentation. >> All right. Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> I'm not sure what to I think >> Thank y'all for that information tonight. The board will now convene into executive session pursuant to the Texas Governmental Code 551.071 consultation with attorney and 551074 personnel. No debating and no voting will take place in the closed session. Any action the board wishes to take as a result of discussions in closed session will take
050place after the board reconvenes in open session. We will go into closed session at 6:40. All right. Okay, the board will now reconvene in open session at 9:10. We will now consider approval of action item 6A, consider the consider and take possible action to hire an interim superintendent and approve the superintendent interim contract. >> I move to direct the superintendent and board president to proceed as discussed in executive session. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Dr. Martinez and a second by Mr. Marshall Fleurian. Any further questions or discussions on the motion? Seeing none, vote by showing of hands. 6-0. >> All right, thank you all. We now we now have concluded our agenda for this meeting and there's no further actions. I see none. This meeting is adjourned at 9:11.