001no no no but she she's got this whatever's going around thinking I understand totally this meeting of the Tyler ISD Board of Trustees is called to order we do do have the presence of a quorum the meeting has been duly called and the notice of the meeting has been posted in the time and manner required thank you everybody for coming out today and um the first item on our agenda is public participation and we do have a speaker today Miss Carolyn Davis if you want to come up to the podium good morning morning president wasman uh board members and superintendent Crawford 185 was the number of teachers in Tyler ISD classrooms reported to the board last semester without teacher certifications hopefully several of the 185 non-certified teachers have now taken teacher certification tests and now
002have their teaching certificates I think you might be reporting on that today each of you probably heard about the big cheating scandal in the Houston area in which now it's up to 160 took and failed their teacher certification test and later resorted to paying a proxy to take the test for them something is terribly wrong when in some parts of Texas some individuals aspiring to be teachers or using Extreme Measures albe it illegal to obtain their teacher certifications and be allowed to teach yet in this same state of Texas in school districts like Tyler ISD some individuals are allowed to just walk into a public school classroom with no teacher certification and become the teacher of record in past DOI reporting it was mentioned that programs are underway for parap professionals CTC and early college
003students who desire to become teachers I encourage you to please continue these programs especially with CTC and early college students who may result in a larger and faster group of potential teachers now regarding CLT test results of fouryear olds in Toler ISD this test as you know was administered three times a year to prek tuition prek non-tuition and Head Start students when the beginning of the year test is administered to the four-year-olds last year just two weeks of course into their brand new uh school year which is the current school year headstar students scored substantially lower than the other two prek groups one example example is in the area of Rapid vocabulary naming in which Head Start students score 33% prek tuition students scored 86% which is 53% lower I realize all three groups of
004prease students show progress when the test is given about this time of year in the middle of the year yet the question begs to be asked do Head Start students ever catch up if not what if any intervention is being done by Tyler ISD to help close this gigantic Gap additionally I am also concerned about the data for the mclass and I ready literacy test for africanamerican students in grades Kinder through second uh for the Ken and last school year this ch is also administered three times a year it shows the percentage of students at are about bench mark the beginning of the year in middle of the Year data of African-American students in grades Kinder through second for the current and last school year is almost consistently the lowest out of the five demographic
005groups listed could this be partially due to many African-American students being in the the Head Start program many of whom start behind and consequently stay behind last but not least I will end by redirecting your attention to the school board meeting February 17th this year in which six people participated in public speaking on February the 20th I sent each of you a rather lengthy email reiterating some of their comments and questions including comments like no scho no school should be a place of fear my people are hurting but you've refused to put out a statement assuring us that our children are safe so many comments questions such as what procedure is in place in case immigration enforcement should come what is so difficult about releasing a statement why so much hesitation these are some of
006their questions I ended my email by stating I have many of the same questions as the public participants I'm also asking you to please release a statement to students and parents that clarifies your position and hopefully assures students and families they will be protected while at school thank you thank you Miss Davis okay and we do not have any more public participants um moving on to our continuous Improvement in student outcomes we have a class siiz update part of the board monitoring calendar we have a class siize update that's going to be provided by Deputy superintendent of administration who has the K8 grades in his side of the or chart in his division that's Dr Lance gropel Dr gropel lead us through this presentation uh in in front of you this is our uh semesterly
007uh update on class size uh as it pertains to our kindergarten through fourth grade classrooms that are over the 22:1 ratio that the state of Texas has set forth um so you'll see that we have 31 uh classes where we have an aid available for those those uh classrooms uh affecting a total of 47 students uh in our in our kindergarten through fourth grade uh I would draw your attention to that this number is lower than the fall number that was presented to you um we had a in fewer students and fewer class rooms districtwide uh that are exceed that 22:1 ratio uh resulting in different um a lower number for the spring semester um you see Caldwell and Birdwell on there as those are magnet programs we don't provide an additional um prayer professional
008for those classrooms that you see listed there but I wanted to note that we are over uh the 22 to1 and those classrooms listed at Caldwell and Birdwell as a part of their magnet programming so subject to any questions you may have on the numbers in front of you thank you Dr gropel anybody have any questions or comments I I just had a question regarding that the class s know that's been one of my things since I've been on the board uh I know that we have a special project going on uh within a couple of the schools how's that project or I don't know if the bullet's aware of it you may want to explain that project and what its goals are uh we have two additional pair professionals that we have at or
009and Griffin uh in our lower grades to work as more of a teacher support at at the request of of Mr Newsome um to help support the the the day-to-day operations of the classroom uh not as much on the providing small group instruction but more allowing the teacher to try to create some uh more time for them to better plan and and work to create a better environment um uh uh in those in those uh classro at this point don't have enough data to to put in front of you um to make a determination on how how effective that is currently being but we have a a classroom at or where we have an additional PA professional um that is seeking teacher certification as well as a a PA professional in a bilingual classroom at
010uh Griffin last year didn't we have a PA that actually got her teacher certification that was that was at or Midstream mid year yeah she's teaching teaching for us as well yeah legislative session right now everything going on talking about teacher preparation and DOI and all those other fun ways to go get alternative C alternatively certified some of the residency models that are out there Mr Nome um there could be some potential um dollars for for for programs like this obviously you're not going to be able to put one in every classroom across every school district in the state of Texas but there will be some competitive grants possibly available to be able to do that uh to where you've got teachers in residency they get paired with a classroom teacher to do some of
011these things more on the instructional side than on the operational side which is what describing yes sir um my only caution on that we've talked to the commissioner of Education about this we've talked to uh legislators about uh Paras and and and them going all in on the teacher prep the uh while we we probably have four or five that might be in the program right now miss Taylor I believe not many it's a handful um that's probably not going to wind up providing the state of Texas the amount of certified teachers it truly needs to be able to stock our classrooms with certificate certified teachers uh it's it's teacher pay and and attracting Talent back into the classroom is what we're all struggling with as well so I do think that these uh these
012these smaller micro projects that we've got going on we'll certainly have some data for you at at the back end of the year like we like we've traditionally looked at yes sir well I was pleased with the project at or from the aspect of last year the person that we actually had selected or y'all had selected became the teacher the permanent teacher because somebody went out and you pulled them out of the program to cover the classroom for the rest of the year so apparently you have a very effective person that was in that position to assist the teacher at the second grade level so I think the program could be beneficial at least you had a qualified person that year I'm not sure about the ones this year I haven't followed it as much
013but I I I was very pleased with that particular movement and I and I think that I agree with Dr Crawford I think that there there will be additional funding and there should be additional funding if we can get any funding to support programs of that nature so I appreciate you thank you I have a question you said they don't help with instruction they just um do CL work well so they help with some of the classroom management issues they additionally will take them to and from specials to and from lunch uh two and from Recess so the teachers not supervising those those instances trying to create some time within the day uh when you look at uh Hattie's research about about additional Staffing um that's one of the effective models if you add additional
014Staffing um to add it in a way that it's not um detracting from the the the qualified teacher in the room but creating time within the day to help support their planning preparation uh and and getting the teacher those minutes back in the day that are so precious okay I I will say I think so like when there's independent study time or work time they're also helping with the management of those groups in the instruction when the teacher needs to be able to do some small smaller group instruction or maybe lecture or or technical time with individual students when the other 10 are working on something she's monitoring that individual if the teacher pulling a small group and and others are working individually that that individual is monitoring uh students on task behavior and that
015sort of thing sorry I didn't clarify that okay any other questions or comments thank you okay uh District of innovation teacher certifications granted update on that Sher Taylor executive director Human Resources is going to provide a report on DOI certifications granted per the board monitoring calendar of course twice annually sorry correct I'm sorry twice a year twice a year yes sir okay once in the fall and once in the spring well good morning morning uh it's great to be here to talk to discuss our district of innovation teacher certifications you do have the report in front of you we do have 235 that are currently on DOI that does 10 to go up in the fall or spring excuse me because when we have student teachers that graduate and come they're still in the process
016of taking their exams and so we do DOI them but they are in the process we have 175 individuals who are in the process they're either waiting on permission to take a certification test or they're waiting for program requirements or they're even out ofate teachers that they have um that their emergency ran out and so now we're still working on them taking their tests because we do have a lot of tests for them to take I can't tell you that we are actively seeking some help for our teachers to be given coursework to help them to where they're successful in passing those exams hopefully the first time around as opposed to having to retake over and over and over again but they are trying and working hard at it and we do continue to work
017with our PA professionals and encourage them those that really want to become teachers to find a program to go and earn a their degree and work on their teacher certification along with our Early College High School and CTC students any questions anybody on the board have any questions regarding this particular item so 129 are waiting on this certification test 41 are waiting on the alternate cert certification program requirements yes sir and then five out of state waiting on a tea review of their application then 23 CTE teachers yes sir okay yeah CTE teachers might not even have a degree at all they may be welders or worked in aut body I know there's a there's a mclenny from Lindale if y'all know anything about Lindale how many mclanes are over there uh I was actually
018on the same t-ball team with him when I was four years old I ran him the other day I didn't even know he was working here but I don't I don't know if he's got a degree or not but he works on our auto body repair and tea does allow for certification to be granted on he owned his own business forever we we've had some of those uh but 85% of those on that list are either in the queue to for certification test or uh what she described as the other ones you know what's interesting about this is that again it's it's not anyone off the street it is somebody that actually has gone to college and obtained a degree um so that is something that that that that we do celebrate for these individuals
019that have chosen our profession uh to be able to assist with uh and then trying to get get them certified and and unless they have been performing extremely well we give them about a three-year tryy out and then we ask find somewhere else to go so it's not like we do DOI them forever since we've been doing it for the last you know eight or nine years um their performance is sometimes great sometimes it's not so great and again through the normal process of contract offering we were able to to provide them an exit out of the out of the district um esc7 Reg 7 is now a player and teacher certification so that's in our backyard that's a good thing to have you have I teach Texas what was that other one you a
020Texas teachers for tomorrow so that is where A+ teachers and another organization two three of them merged together and created one really three correct um you know speaking to to public participation Miss Davis we are aware of of the ne various actions that have been going on in inside of those test taking uh things the interesting thing about that is that tea certifies the test proctoring no matter where it comes from um so that's not really a school district thing to worry about we have looked internally uh to see if we've got anyone you know we don't know if we slipped in any any slip through the cracks or not but we don't think we have any now as soon as I say that we'll we'll wind up having you know one I know we've
021had some in East Texas I've talked to other superintendents and they've had to deal with that appropriately as well um the last thing I'll say about grow your own stuff I did have a productive meeting with UT Tyler and TJC College presidents uh so stay tuned for some I don't want to know if it's exciting or not but but some certainly some strategy uh especially with UT Tyler in regard to uh Improvement of uh producing practitioners uh sometimes higher ed gets caught up in trying to make that extra buck and they want to throw all of their energy and efforts into principal certification and somebody trying to be a superintendent why they' want to do that um uh or or getting a doctorate or whatever maybe curriculum but Dr Philly is really interested in uh
022teacher certification and that is not uh with the three presidents prior to her that was not something that was really high on their Radar really really excited that Dr Philly is taking that um with the that baton the other thing is I'll say with Dr Mah TJC he sees the value at Early College as well being able to to attract those so we've got some of those early opportunities there um we need to to to focus even more so um with them now that we've got UT Tyler on board and now that the service Center's on board with alternative certification as well there's there's going to be some pretty cool things come out of it lastly uh spoke a little bit about the legislature and um this is a big Focus they put the task
023force together and they really looked more at policy as a as opposed to teacher pay um there's not too many kids out there that are coming out of college when they can go make 60k right away that choose the profession that pays around 50 and um so that's something that's going to have to be worked upon I think there's some good things that are coming out of uh at least on the house side I'm not so sure on the Senate side if if they're really paying attention to to to the to the details and the depth that they need to go for this uh to attracting talent to come to be a teacher again so uh a lot of lot of work around certifications coming and um there is going to be some opportunities for
024DOI and I think they're going to put a year restriction on it imagine that um similar to what we do internally uh but they're actually going to CAU ay it through State policy and there's nothing wrong with that that's pretty much the the two or three year Target is where we we try to land anyways am am I correct in saying that you're correct okay and just a comment I was a out of state um hiry um from Chicago and so it worked well for me so um I was certified in Illinois but not here and so that five waiting they could be certified they're just waiting on the Texas certification correct yes ma'am question regarding CTE teachers are they required to be certified or is a license enough to justify them being in the
025classroom State doesn't require them to be certified do they no it just it depend because some of them don't have right a degree to go take the the actual certification test because that is one requirement is to have a fouryear degree I believe isn't it for our core content areas now as far as our um CTE with welding they can have their CER welding certification and they have experience with that then we can look at that as they don't have to have a degreee correct not on CTE and they could you know may have an associates degree or might have got some type of Industry certification that that qualifies I them for that as well okay thank you for your report stay test well oh you're still here test walk through an evaluation update uh
026years ago we brought this to the board um again for the board monitoring calendar it's not something that y'all really requested it was something that was an internal thing from the administration to you if you know what you measure improves right so uh measuring our campus principles getting there being instructional leaders and the assistant principles as well uh is something that we always want to pres present publicly yes sir um we had a former deputy superintendent that always said hey give yourself a Valentine's Day present and make sure you have all your certifications done by Valentine's Day or or excuse me your observations done at least 75% of them by Valentine's Day um we don't want observations to occur in May because we've already taken all we've already the work's already been done the haze
027in the barn right so uh Miss Taylor why don't you provide us uh an update on your walkthr evaluations I will be happy to so we do have our T Test and walkth through and observation uh information for you and just a reminder T Test is is fostering open Communications between teachers and students and teachers and campus Administration in order to go from a teacher teach Center classroom to a student centered classroom which is our overall goal there are five components to our evaluation process we have our informal observations which are our walkthroughs and we do require every teacher to have at least four walkthroughs two in the fall and two in the spring and then we have our pre-conference for announced formal observation and that is required because every teacher has to have one
028formal observation that is announced and then any second observations they're unannounced which means you don't have the pre-conference beforehand then we have of course our formal observation and we have our postc conference which is required for announced and unannounced and then finally we have our summative which just is accumulation of all the data and information from our walkthroughs and our evalu observations my apologies so if we if we look at our walkthrough data we did drop a little bit but there's a reason for that and you'll see that on the next slide I wanted to go to our elementary middle school because yes it shows that they Dro but I pulled the data a little bit differently this year I pull it to where all of our programs are K through programs and da I
029put them in one in their own cluster and the reason I did that is because I didn't want to inflate Elementary with some middle school and vice versa so we do have that's why there's a dip in both of those but I do want to point out our high schools were getting in classrooms a little more with the walkthroughs this year so that's incredible that's what we like to see because the more we're in classrooms then the more we're able to hit any concerns or improve our instructional methods immediately the average walkthrough per teacher is about 2.6 now our next is our observations so our observations did increase a little bit this year and that is good to see that's why you saw the walkthrough data go down a little bit because observations take a
030lot longer there are 45 minutes at least to observe the teacher but remember you have that pre-conference before forand then you have the observation and then you have the post conference after I do want to point out our high schools they increase their observations as well so high schools were doing really well as far as increasing their amount of time in the classrooms um I did want to point out that as far as our observation data our district is 80% complete and this was pulled back in February 28th was the last day that I pulled this data so we're looking really good it's not the 75% before Valentine's day but it is 80% complete by the end of February our elementaries are 93% and we do have two campuses Jones and Pete that have completed
031all their formal observations and then our K8 campuses are 68% complete with da completing all of their first observations and then Middle School 74% complete and high school 67% complete just to reminder that again our walkthrough data our observation data it helps us determine what our Prof professional devel development needs to be and our plan for the district but as well as the campuses what their needs are on the campuses and that in order because of this the district is able to provide in-depth training which they do so well because we have teachers tell us all the time we are trained so well at tylerd and some coming from other districts said we've never had this much training and we've never learned this much from the training so that's always good to hear that we
032are utilizing this data when we're looking at a professional development okay do you have any questions about our T Test board anybody have any questions or comments just one um I know we do have the option to develop our own yes sir evaluation do you still think this is the best observation for us to use best instrument for what it provides yes right now this gives us the information that we are needing and wanting and it does allow our teachers to grow because it's a growth model which is what we want because we want a growth mindset for our students who need mindset for our employees as well commissioner Morra has really done some things I think in a positive way of bundling a lot of our uh materials and curricula and standards so a
033lot of school districts want to go do their own thing I think having this kind of aligned in the same trajectory towards the same trajectory is probably where we want to continue to go pedos model was more of a ler scale uh pretty easy to fill out I think it was just more of just looking checks in boxes I do think that this makes you think a little bit more as an instructional leader to be able to to develop teachers so it's good question because I know there's a lot out there want to do their own assessments want to do their own t tests but I do agree with the commissioner on trying to bundle and align everything as we try to go towards everything going towards one thing and that's improving student outcomes yes
034sir question I have a question yes sir uh you said the teacher average walkthr score was 2.6 on a scale of what I I didn't completely understand on a scale of four so if every teacher has to have four walkthroughs the teachers are averaging 2.6 thank you I'm sorry I didn't clarify that not a score it's a number it's just a number it's a number number of visitations so we want them have four walk you get 2.6 visits walkth through visits okay it's just overall out of the four okay yeah okay sorry about that that's okay I'm the end of the year oh by April 21st they'll all have four and then we'll have more yes sir four is the minimum and even though they're finished with their evaluation form evaluation they're not finished with
035walkthroughs or visits corre correct walkthroughs continue um and then also they might even decide they want a second observation and some principles will do two observations per campus which is great it's just more feedback they you still have to do a portfolio is that still required or no you don't have to bring any thing in no sir they don't do not have no ma'am I'm sorry no ma'am they don't have to do a portfolio I remember the portfolio days I do too yeah and that's when they kind of tried to redesign uh the way we do this and I I still think it's a I don't know if it's effective or not but I do think it's a different way to to present your professional uh success they're they're nice but I think we might
036have got away from it to continue adding on collaboration to make sure that we're all on the same page and the final question in the first part of the sory requirement is the districts must establish growth targets at the individual student level that can be linked to appal teacher and content Center Line and we do because we use a pre-test and post test model with our students to show student growth okay well good morning or um our second requirement for renewal is that we look to expand our current system and so we are going to do that our Focus um for this year um is not going to be as much on the elementary school or the Middle School we're going to kind of stay put for this year um you'll see up here what
037we've always served which is basically reading and math from prek um Head Start all the way up through our high schools so focused at the high school level really on the five eoc's we do add science in fifth and e8th grade we had social studies in eth grade and then of course the biology and US history eoc's that was where we that's where we were for four years or um at the end of four years what we're looking at expanding to for next year is to go from those five High School courses to 79 High School courses overall go ahead so here's a list I'll give you a minute to look over it it's most of the four cores from freshman through senior year and we're going to add about 56 CTE courses to that
038list and so that'll cover the vast majority of teachers at our high school y'all don't freak out that's all state money right there that's that's out that's outside the basic a lot money that's outside of teacher raises it's outside of General funding it's outside of special education this is a something the state is committed to funding uh this Merit pay sir long we keep getting it that's right so we will we will meet that second requirement um and then our third requirement that we have to do is really just holistically review everything so we look at what what uh indicators we're including which M ter will go over in just a second um we also get a data validation report back annually from the state and they gave us two two bits of feedback which
039is pretty consistent with what we get every year one of them is just to line out our designation system as much as possible to the state's designation or growth model um which we're pretty close we're never going to be perfect because we do include like I ready and some other uh indicators they don't but we're very close to that um the second feedback they gave us is just to make sure that we're looking at you know recognized exemplary Master designations across campuses across appraisers student growth across teachers across appraisers and uh we do that twice a year with our um principes and their rers so that's a very regular part of what we what we do every year and vam stands for a value added model it's the state's way to basically try and assess
040how much value a teacher is adding to a student based on that student's growth history so our final step is a holistic review of what we already have in place this is our current model and I'll just let you look at that real quick so at the committee we did discuss the first two teacher attendance and student experience that's our Panorama surveys is the student surveys those are local designation criteria that we added so we can manipulate those numbers because it's what we said and then the student growth and the T Test those are the state minimum numbers that they say you have to have to earn that designation so there's not anything we can do with that other than raise those if we wanted to the committee agreed just leave the student growth and
041T Test where it's at we don't want to raise it at this teacher and tenants we're right on board with that I know they just want some more information on when they can appeal attendance and student surveys what some more documentation or what some examples of documentation they can provide and we can do that on the appeal committee form that we have for them the next is student surveys we actually changed the secondary approval rating last year from 60% to 50% approval the reason we did that is because our national Norm numbers show that second was a lot lower than Elementary which I can see that because remember you have middle school and high school rating a teacher and a lot of times they don't want to be there so what are they going to
042do y'all ever talk to a high school kid bro so that's the reason we've low too much this how many times have we hear that and it asks you know how often do you one of the questions how do you speak about this class outside of school okay m school and high school student if you have one how many times are you having to pull from them what did you do in class today nothing I had one that's what she told me all the time so we do understand that and we see the need for that what we what we have consider from the committee is they said can we not expand the um student the number of surveys number of surveys thank you number of surveys for secondary currently we just look at 20
043for both Elementary second student surveys that we pull per teacher we have listened and we are going to up that to 40 surveys for secondary because it gives them a little more because they are they do have more students what elementary does have as far as sample size so any questions on our holistic review I I have one quick question of course how do you measure student growth with CT CTE so it's a great question um we actually it's going to be the same as we do for every other assessment so we use the pre-test post test model so what will happen is the beginning of year we'll we're setting Windows um with our high schools they'll take a pre-test so basically like a um either a certification preest or a third party pretest that's
044approved by ta uh they'll take that preest they'll take the same thing towards the end of the year uh late April early May next late April or early May of 2020 six I think that is um and we'll evaluate growth between the two so it's the same way as it is for like CLI for our prek students or star for our star tested students not to get in the Weeds on assessments but Dr gropo Dr Kuran um Dr Norman uh in regards to CTE well first of all that's with Dr walls as side but CTE my understanding is they have found uh these appropriate prein poost obviously the post test going to be the certification but it's a preest to go along with that correct for for some of them using the exact uh post
045test and the preest is basically a mockup of that where the teachers don't give it right so it's kind of independent for others it is the uh so that's I think it's called the nocy exam but for the nonn exam subjects we're using the third party one that's approved by ta and then on the AP side Dr gropel is they're going to be kind of rolled into this advanced placement yes sir uh working with a vendor Ed edify um that helps train uh the folks at tea the psychometrician your favorite profession uh to to write assessments fun to hang out with they're cool people they're fun to hang out with that's going to help us write those assessments for all the the High School courses the core content courses that you you saw listed earlier
046uh and we'll will include uh AP at eventually it's not in that first uh not all of them are listed in that first uh it's coming but yes that's we've partnered with them to help us write those assessments U they're meeting with our local assessment team uh in two weeks maybe after after week after we get back from spring break so there's a debate out there about a trend Statewide Nationwide about you know I guess you get extra points for for a taking the AP course and we and flows on whether or not kids want to actually take the AP test to which they've got to score a three or better to be able to have that count towards a certain school I think ivy league only takes fives or maybe not take them at
047all so how does that fact does that factor into any of this at all no sir okay so the AP test we're talking about them taking so that our teachers can receive more compensation is going to be through this vendor as the post test not the actual AP test not the actual AP test it would be our Lo it would be a local assessment that that this vendor is helping us create I don't know I mean we may wind up figuring out here in a few years years we need to get the actual AP test taken some incentivization I don't know I hate making a teacher penalized for a kid not taking the test but we've got to figure something out for that to happen because right now we're seeing this trend again again it's
048not just a Tyler ISD problem it is an everybody problem of board policy wait waiting those grade points for just taking the AP class some of y'all may have had your teachers the teachers do get a little do they get stien for lack of a better term or do they get paid for how well students do on that the number of students that passo maybe I'm just imagining that not provide that I don't think we provide that anymore if if we've even done it since I've been here I know it's been up for debate Dallas we used to make our teachers make a living doing that but yeah that's again it goes to the nuances of the type of kids that you have and what their desires and their goals are those kids that we
049had in the campus I was principal at were rabid about you know planned two honors program at Texas or trying to get into a military academy or trying to get an Ivy League or West Coast school so I don't I don't know um if that's even a thing that that that's really an incentivization there um on the classes on the the core classes that you listed on on the earlier slide there how many um because I can think of a few but like how many math classes are not included in this or or science or English is is it I know it's not all of them because I know of some of the classes but I'm thinking like environmental science is one or it it would be difficult to get you a number on that
050specifically there are some the math classes and and some science classes that are not included at this time uh we wanted to expand to this uh this number of of course to be able to do it well uh before we expanded beyond that um when you get into uh some of the courses that are that are more and more individualized the the student number uh is not as large as you would see in these classes we felt like these these courses uh addressed the majority of the student population which then gave us a bigger sample size to evaluate how the teacher was doing on a student growth perspective dual credit statistics obviously is one that's not on there yet yeah that might be something that we can historyart history on there art history is not
051not in involved in at this time yeah yeah it is um I assume this is also preap although it not doesn't say that but I assume yes yes it does it's like you see geometry there that will include on level and preap well this is exciting glad y'all are expanding that um and I assume that's and and we can expand it every year or not or yes we can expand it every year we do um an updated application that we send and when do that due every April do is this due in April as well yes sir all right April what one one last thing it is due dat's April 15th but it's going to be in well before then okay well we still got six weeks to add to it right well we do
052but I can't tell you that they have thoroughly gone through everything and these are the courses that we know we're ready to add and we don't want to just throw something on there if we're not ready for it and sorry Dr Crawford one and and the committee that you were talking about that's made up of teachers teachers are on that committee so the system renewal committee was made up teachers community members principals districts Administration yes sir okay sorry there's a bill right now that's floating around the legislature to where they'd actually add a fourth um tier for lack of a better term I don't have much detail about that that but that's they're trying to get us to to get more teachers and they're trying to get more teachers into the system again it's merit-based
053pay um one thing I have heard is they do want Fine Arts uh physical education other elective courses they want it expanded into those as well so us starting this out this way over the years you may wind up seeing other curricula incl and content areas included in this which again as long as we can have a uh a livable starting salary if the state's going to fund this in perpetuity um let's go we're going to be in on that so that teachers can get the compensation they deserve question yes uh regarding the teachers attendance and I was wondering how you said that we determine the attendance rate or absences in regards to the setting up the program okay so do we have any teachers that maybe meet all the other criteria that only dis
054disqualify because of absences and do we take anything in consideration with that yes sir so we have had that and we do have an appeal committee and that all they have to do is flap the appeal form and attach whatever documentation they want us to take into consideration oh great okay is that the same for student surveys as well they can appeal that yes yes sir what's typically your if you're to guesstimate your pass rate on appeals or oh we had roughly 79 appeals 80 79 or 83 pills last year just on attendance or surveys some would have us recalculate student growth or in which we can we can recover stent T Test but we have about 50% appeal committee passing rate I'm trying to go back to i' say less than that but it's
055I'd say 25 to 50 if I guess and it is you know we have to take in consideration what they're submitting and you know some of it it just depends what they submit and what they say it needs to be something that wasn't an [Music] unforeseen I guess incident or that we that they take into consideration I'll give you an example I don't sit in on every one of them but whenever they've got the big spreadsheet up on one of the big monitors in there I'll just sit down for 5 or 10 minutes and I'll just look up there and just ask questions especially some teachers I recognize I was like oh they're appealing then they'll tell me why they're appealing and they some sound like it's I don't ever I try not to to
056provide my opinion about it um but I I know we've had some silly ones as well to where a teacher might have missed the attendance because she chose to go on a field trip with one of her own children so she was out of that classroom so you know that that means that we had to put a sub in that classroom that the sub got instruction that day on the ones that were responsible so there's some things that I don't get to go for my children and same thing with my wife so sometimes we get some pretty pretty simple ones for us there's some other ones that are tragic you know as far as health related things that go that sometimes people just have unforeseen Health tragedies or something else happens as well so um
057we don't take it lightly well I I I applaud applaud the program because I think we need incentives anything we can get to help our teachers pay increase I'm for I I want to make sure that they are treated fairly in regards to that I know that some things do come up that may result in them being absent from the classroom so you know we should take that in consideration so I think that sound like you got a good system in place that's fair at least so a lot of double examples but I'm familiar with one high school English teacher last year that challenged the survey yes sir student experience survey and she's an English teacher she stated her case very effectively and she it made a lot of sense and that that I think
058that's probably why you have a littleit adjustment on there correct as well so we we do listen right because the point you know my thinking if if you're good on your te test and your scores are good but the kids the kids that the random 20 kids that that get your survey out of 120 40 now right 40 now right you know just because yeah and that's kind of why I've asked you you know hey sendy what what's on these surveys and you kind of alluded to it a little bit but now we've also had teachers come in and talk about absences and they're knocking it out of the park but you look at the students that they have in their class sometimes they can just show up and get and get after it because
059they're they're and I I can see it being a 10 I mean that's because that's what we give them right that's a benefit for them they get five local and five State and that's their benefits yeah we don't have to include attendance in the in the design of this so we could let them have 25 or 30 absences qualify but as we were going through this and and yeah the architecture of this thing that was a big deal for us because we were having teacher attendance issues correct and so this kind of incentivizes to come to work it should be an incentive our teacher on has improved since it's been in the Tia plan and you do hear people talking I don't want to be out I want to be here because I want Tia
060so it has helped in that effect yeah and uh spouse teachers oh um two rock stars that I'm very aware of finding people to watch their kids so that they stay under that as a pair that 20 absence threshold or five with the ones I'm talking about 10 absence threshold between the two they were so glad that their dad moved to Tyler and built a house right next to them so if if IFH so that they don't miss and then they'll they'll come up to me said Dr Crawford I just want you to know I think I had the flu and I still came to school because I do not I said well did you get test you know so then you didn't have the flu it's cold right so it it they do they
061they they play around with this and they compete with it and I appreciative of it well I don't I mean just in general in life being present matters I don't care if it's if you're a dad or a parent or a Sunday school teacher a teacher teacher or just going to work showing up matters and so especially if you're good if you're good at something and they're getting more of you then they're doing better so I I do like that teacher attendance is part of it uh also understanding that things do happen but yeah showing up is is is big in my book so anybody else thank you for and thank everybody for your uh questions and it's very inform and um yeah so I guess we'll on this uh we'll we'll entertain a motion
062then to uh to approve this U application or the renewal application for this do I have a motion on that item some thank you do I have a second second okay all in favor say I I'll oppose guys have it and the motion carries and good luck with your renewal thank you for the work you put into it okay we have various action items um many of which have to do with um upcoming elections and whatnot but the first one is uh roof Replacements at Douglas Jack partial roof replacement at Caldwell yes sir uh what we have here is the preparation for our preventative maintenance and summer projects uh the reason we're bringing it to you here at the very first of March is we've got a stage and uh these materials the the the
063contractors have to go buy the materials as well we want to be able to do this so that we can hit the ground running as soon as summer break hits um so again our tax dollars at work our three cents on the tax rate at work to to take care of our facilities um Douglas Jack and a partial roof replacement at cwell Arts Academy anything else Mr ler youve covered okay okay so those schools uh Douglas and Jack are have been in in existence long enough that their roofs are to be replaced 20 years correct has it been that long really 20 years wow that's hard to believe it um yes um wow so Douglas and Jack were built in the 2004 Bond along with the annex which is the Middle School building at uh
064cwell MH and so they're they're all due and we're coming up on those phases I know Mr new my we can know it's you are but um yeah you know and surprisingly enough as as we uh monitored and looked and evaluated these roofs with our professional and and Mr bingfield and Miss Jones um they've held up very good and I'm very pleased because we have good buildings and in inside the buildings have H held up well too so um but it's time to keep moving forward with it and we'll have more to come in the future because we're starting to come to all those phases hey while you're there just briefly covid money that we spent extra money did we do any roofs with esone we did do uh one roof just as an update
065just as a reminder and that was hog okay and we did that under Esser funds we did replace Gary the administration building also at the same time um but that was not with erer funds that was with prevented maintenance maintenance okay and then uh so that did did help that help offset some future costs as as these roofs and uh come due so um very pleased to bring this to you and certainly one last comment before y'all consider and take action just a heads up we set this three cent on this three cents on the tax rate back in uh when 2001 200 2001 as we were trying to gear up for all of this remember a dollar in 2001 a little different than a dollar in 2025 I'm that I'm just going to put
066that out there this doesn't I don't want to freak everybody out but there's going to have to be some adjustments obviously our values have changed our Revenue off of the tax rate has changed etc etc but uh it is expensive um your 2017 high schools that were built for two around two 215 million would probably go for around 600 million right now yeah the the inflation and escalation it it hadn't helped but uh you know fortunately we've been able to stagger a lot of these and that's what our job is stagger uh a lot of The Replacements because like I you've heard me say in the past when we build it at the same time it it dies at the same time so um we stagger those into the future to stretch those dollars as
067far as possible whereas other districts in Texas can't do that they don't have that kind of plan and thankfully you guys support that and they have to go to bond issues for this type of stuff just as a refresher um the process of of putting out these bids what's what's the window you know on you guys throw it out there and in whatever way you you advertise that and then what's the window on people responding and getting bids in and how how long does that typically take uh well I think by lot you have to advertise two weeks ahead of time before you open the bids and of course we work from board meeting to board meeting and so it takes a uh about a month or better that's after you have the design done
068and so um I would imagine there's a lot of sir I would imagine there's a lot of roofing companies that uh typically come out of the work to there is and we had uh in your agenda item you I think we had five on there m and um some of them we don't know uh we're pleased to um hopefully bring Advanced Roofing they're the ones that did hog and and the others a great company they're local to East Texas and um very conscientious have done us a good job so and the other thing too like Dr Crawford said we we still have problems getting materials that's another reason we get here early but we're not the only School District around East Texas that are doing roof so we do like to get ahead of everybody
069else okay just just a comment in regards to that because it has been 20 years and we set the three cents in place so like Dr Crawford alluded to it may be time for you to consider adding one or two cents to that fund because I know it's made a difference in How I schools look and the maintenance of the schools I've been around I knew before you know and you know before we had the three cents that we had problems so considering the cost over the 20 years and still maintaining the three cents I think it's something you may need to evaluate and see if it's effective or not because uh like you said costs have increased considerably from 20 years ago yes we will evaluate after this legislative session to see if there
070's an increase in the basic allotment because yeah I understand State our local taxpayers hate debt we don't like it we don't Embrace sometimes that's ha you have to do it but the only way to consider a penny or two is going to have to be an increase in the basic allotment and so that's why we're hoping that the house plan they're starting off at 220 per kid increase we hope that it goes it doubles maybe triples I doubt it'll triple but but that'll allow us to make some decisions on this Mr n but yes sir good idea uh in regards to that you mentioned taxes in in general uh they're talking about decreasing the state taxes uh in general for you know property and Etc so if they decrease that does that affect our
071income as well as far as the district um you know it's it's all formulized now that compression means that if if if the local tax rate is is compressed then the State makes it up okay so uh if they're talking about teacher raises they're talking about increasing the basic alotment that means the state is going to pick up the funding and that you're that the local homeowner not commercial property owners but the local homeowners are the are the ones that could see a lower tax but it doesn't mean that our Revenue decreases now okay 2020 or 20 9 2011 a long time ago now to me um we did have State reduction because the economy was so bad I think they cut like five or six billion dollars out of public Ed we have not
072had a cut like that in a long time um now they didn't increase us last time but we didn't have a cut like that so I don't think that's going to happen this time good discussion on that though I you also might have noticed U after that compression that values went pretty crazy yeah so they may they they they made up for some of that yeah by telling appraisal boards at certain counties you need to jack up your appraisals so it's not unnoticed I'll say that okay um I'll go ahead and entertain a motion on item a then Mo EXC do you have a second second all in favor say I I I I'll oppos guys have it the motion carries now we'll take uh B through d one at a time uh B is
073to consider approval of certification of unopposed candidate for single member district six who is that congrats um do I have a do I have a motion on that item so move do I have a second second all in favor say I I I'll oppose the eyes have it motion carries congratulations Mrs Harrison on your unopposed candidacy um Okay C consider approval of an order declaring the cancellation of trustee election of unopposed candidate single member district 6 do I have a motion on that item I Mo thank you do have a second second all right all in favor say I I all oppose eyes hav it the motion carries D consider approval of supplemental order approving an amended list of early voting locations dates times and approving election day polling places for the general election for
074school trustees to be held May 3rd 2025 that's at your place under separate cover uh we were able to get the the final location yesterday afternoon officially from the county elections office you can look at those in front of you if you any questions about it contact Gina or next week thank you for working on on that thank you for all those uh places who open up wherever they might be for these elections so I'll entertain a motion on item D so move thank you do I have a second second all in favor say I I I oppose guys have it and the motion carries uh we will now go into executive session and Dr Crawford I don't believe we'll have any act action to follow do you we don't and I don't have a
075whole lot for you in there if anything so it may be a pretty quick one okay well that sounds good let's uh go into executive session good e