CBISD Board Meeting June 17th, 2025

001Uh it's a pretty intensive process, time consuming, takes a lot of time to do a campus. Uh we we'll need to make board reports uh before October of next next year of October 26. So in the spring you'll you'll you'll see individual campus uh safety audit reports coming to you just to give you a heads up on that. Um school safety center has has released their EOM reviews. Every year we're required to send uh always required to send our basic plan, our bur our basic emergency operation manual to the school safety center and then they usually pick an additional uh requirement to send. Uh last year it was our cyber security amendment or appendix and this year it's our active threat assessment appendix. Um so u usually they have updates and it doesn't take a

002lot but they've pretty much revamped both uh due to requirements uh that that Governor Abbott has has set forth. Um so we're working on those. I started working on those this week um with the idea that we can present those at the safety security committee meeting in July and then at the same time uh through Sentinel which is the online security application that we've been using now for a couple years but they've kind of crank turned the notch up on that. We'll be uploading all that material and all the uh uh local agencies and state agencies will be able to have access to information that's in there in the event issues. Uh so we'll get those done. Those will be due around September and then usually I'll give a report back to you in December.

003The past couple years we haven't had any any findings but we have in the past and it's usually hey you need to fix this to make it fit our requirement. um summer safety and security committee meeting. You've already heard me talk about it once or twice. That'll be July 23rd. Uh 4 pm in the in the in the boardroom. Just so you know, there is a requirement for two board members to attend those meetings. Uh the pre the president is is required to be there if they can be there. Um and then we need another board member to be there. It doesn't have to be assigned. If you just want to let me know, I know Mr. Brousard did it for a long time. Um, but if y'all would let me know, I'll try to

004get that information out if you want to switch it out, whatever works best for y'all. But it sure helps to have y'all at those meetings. We try to keep them to about an hour. We usually have a good representation from all the local law enforcement and fire departments from around the area. So, it's good information for you. It's a lot of the same information that you already hear in the board meetings, but it's a little bit more in detailed and a little bit different perspective from the emergency response. that is July 23rd at 4:00 pm in the boardroom. That's a tentative schedule. Sometimes we have to change it because we can't get everybody in the room at the same time. So, sometimes it changes depending on who we can get here and who we can't

005get here. So, uh the last thing that I have is uh you know, we had a door breaching training over in F-wing before it uh started getting torn down. So, I know Chief had a lot of fun and would love to tell you all about it. So, Chief, you have anything to talk about your destruction? Yeah, after the second day, they uh everybody wants to know when you're going when we're going to pass another bond so we can go destroy when you actually have an actual structure where you can do good training, you know, live fire and stuff. It's like, you know, kids in a candy store. I know Mr. Kenny, somebody had me in walk through after the fact and they could tell you there was some damage done in there. It was a

006mess. I heard some glass a little bit. I don't think there was any glass left. Anyway, we appreciate it. It's actual good training instead of having some makeshift, you know, building that's not actual, you know, structure or something. So, it was really good training and we appreciate the board, Mr. Galloway, Mr. Kenny for letting us do some do some work and good training inside the building. I thought the most impressive was the hole in the center block wall. Found out it's a viable way to breach a room. I sent I sent my sister, she was, of course, she was the first door. We did first entry. We destroyed her door. So, I sent her a picture of it. I told her, "I promise we'll replace your door when we're And then the last thing I

007have, you have your monthly report from chief in your in your folder." Uh, if you have any questions over that, it'll be easier to answer. If not, that's all that I have unless you have any other questions. Do I have any questions? Uh, follow up on the breakin. I'm sorry. I think I want to say to follow up on the breakin. We we identified about $2,000 with the damage. We've got one identified got two warrants and me and Lieutenant Warak went to a location today to look for him, but suppose he's he's out of town somewhere. So, he's been arrested up in McGomery County. He's got he's warning out of Galveston County. So, U we do have test warrants out for him. Were they students of ours? One of them graduated in December. The other

008two we don't know who who they are. I don't think I saw administrators, different principles, different schools. Nobody recognized the other two. So we have to once we find the person that we got warrants on. It's going to be up to him to get the other two identified. All right. their instructional report. All right. Couple of things for you tonight. The first one in your folder is paperclip. It's the school supplies list. See that? Yeah. You have a lot of information in your folder tonight. There you go, Mr. C. Paper clipped. You want to look at that? what we tried to do. Years ago, uh we have several major players in our community that try to provide school suppliers list. And so um their request at that time many years ago was to consolidate as

009much as we can so that they can buy u supplies and have supplies for all of our kids not just for kids at certain campuses because that's how they felt they needed to do because they may be in Missouri but they may buy out of Walmart in West Columbia. Um, right. And so, uh, they were having a hard time at that time of we would say we want a package of this, but it comes in a package of five times that much. And so, they were, uh, we're doing the best we can over the years. And so, we asked the campuses to consolidate as much as possible. So, on page one, on the first page, you see the things that are uh, the same across the district. And then if there is any special requests,

010you'll see those on the second page. All right. So those would be if a campus is asking for something specific in addition to this go home with the kids in their No, it this this hasn't gone home. Uh we've I don't even think we've released it yet, have we? Right. Just wanted to show y'all what we'll do is we'll we'll we'll post it. We'll release it to the local community stores and so forth. Okay. Several churches that that that do major supply drives and so forth. We'll make sure that they get those things. Okay. All right. Second thing for you. Um you have a a stapled sheet in your yellow folder. Um we're going to show you um we have received our uh preliminary uh star in EOCC scores for 2025 and so we've put

011that uh into the information that you see and that's that's it Janet right there colorful sheet. So if you look at that, this is the same sheet you see. Uh if you look to the far left column, you'll see starting at the top is our ELC's in the course exams at the high school, English 2, English one, biology, US history, algebra 1. Then going down, you'll see grades three through eight. Uh we start at at the top with eighth grade reading, eighth grade math, eighth grade algebra 1, so forth down, and then all the way down to the bottom is third grade math. And then we show you the score for the district and for each elementary. Working our way across, you can see um the first columns going down is goal one. Uh that

012is the goal that the campus set again a U M and masters. That's ex uh approaches meets and ma and then masters is what a M and MSTR stand for. The release one was the score. So you can compare what the goal was to the release test actual scores. Then the second round you can see the goals that the campus has set. You can see the release of of of what the results were like. Then in green those were actual scores that uh from 2022. And then you can see there's a a star redesign that was put in. So some of the testing change and is still changing in the process of then you see the 2023 score the 2024 score and then you see the last thing is the final goal that the campus

013had for this year and then to the right to that you see star 2025. Those are the preliminary scores for each campus grade level uh for the district. And then to the far right is what we have for state averages so that you can compare us to the state as far as you can concerned. So at the end of the day you're looking at the last two columns to the far right star 2025 is our scores. Again the A is for approaches. The M is for masters. I mean excuse me meets MSTR is for masters. And then the same thing for the state 2025 and that's their averages. So approaches means they passed. Approaches is passed. meets is met grade level, right? And then masters is a they they top 95% if you want to

014call it that. So they approach they pass, correct? But they don't meet the grade level. They don't meet the grade level standard. Correct. So that means they pass with a low score. Is that correct? So what are your concerns in looking at this report? So if you want to start at the bottom up, third grade math, you can see that approaches. So if you want to go for the passing rate, third grade math, you can see the district's at a 75, the state's at a 70. We haven't always been able to say that. Okay. You move up to third grade reading, you can see uh approaches is at a 79, the state's at a 78 or above the state. Can't always been able to say that. Fourth grade math approaches at a 72. The states

015at a 68. Haven't always been able to say that. Fourth grade reading, we're at an 80. The approaches the states uh at 81. Uh we're one one percentage point below. If you look at several years past, fourth grade has always been a huge dip. And so when you look at you have to take third grade, fourth grade, you have to say major kudos because you just reversed a trend. a long-standing trend. So, if you move up to fifth grade, so you get fifth grade science, you can say fifth grade science was at a 59, states at a 64. Uh, we would like to be better than that, but we're not far off. If you look at fifth grade math, we're at a 65 this year across the district. State's at a 73. We've reversed the

016trend. Fifth grade math for the last several years has been our shining point. This year, it's line. Now, if you look at fifth grade math, you can see this year they scored a 65 this year. If you go over to the green column, the last green column, star, uh, 2024, and you go to fourth grade math, you can see that they were at a 66 last year and they're at a 65 this year. So, what can you compare that to? Well, there was a grade level of growth. They stayed the same. So, to score the same, you have to grow grade level. I mean, you have to you have to grow a year. That makes sense. We just didn't grow them more than a year, but that we've been able to do in fifth grade

017over the last several years. Uh if you go to fifth grade reading, you say fifth grade reading was a 74. The state's at a 77. Uh if you move up into sixth grade, uh sixth grade math is a 69. In CBISD, the state was at a 72. Fifth grade reading, we're at a 71. The state was at a 75. Uh, seventh grade math, uh, you can see we're at a 63, the state was at a 52. Seventh grade reading, we're at a 71, the state's at a 74. Eighth grade social studies, we're at a 53. The state's at a 55. Eighth grade science, we're at a 60. States at a 72. Algebra 1, 8th grade 100. Uh, the algebra is always tough because you don't how you compare it, right? Algebra 1's algebra one. And

018so that's always tough. And generally our eighth grade algebra one is at 100. Algebra one at the high school, you can see 37. the states out of 60 out of 69. So when you do that, yes, algebra one's been an issue and it's still an issue because most most your higher scoring kids are taking in eighth grade. Yes. Yeah. So like this year would have been 63 kids taking algebra when at eighth grade. Yeah. So if you look at So if you look at u if you were to go to seventh grade math for last year so if you go seventh grade math in 2024 uh scored a 58 right? So if the seventh graders all together scored a 58 and then you take the top 60 out put them in algebra one right that

01960 was included in what was a 58 right? So the question is they could have the 37 may sound bad but they could have actually grown on percentage points. So that takes us to eighth grade math. Eighth grade math u well we were just there eighth grade reading 76 for us. Uh the state's at a at an 80. If you move up to algebra 1 at the high school, you can see that there's that 38 again and the states at a 76. US history, we're at a 93, states at a 94. Biology, we're at a 90. States at a 91. English one, we're at a 62. Uh, states at a 66. May not like the 60, but four point four percentage points is as close as we've been in English one and EOCC level in

020a long time to the state. U our score is down but also the state scores down right English two uh 77 states at a 71. So when you go there and you look at state average you'd have to say comparatively across the districts not a bad year. We have what three I we have three identified areas that we need to show growth but in generally it's been eight or nine that we've we've identified. From a from a standpoint of just simple scores districtwide, you'd have to say not that because uh you're you're you're ahead of the state in several areas and you're very close in more and you reverse the trend in third and fourth grade where you haven't been, right? A lot of information on this sheet tonight. That's a lot to digest. This

021is not meant for you to digest it all and within five minutes, right? This is just a simple this is this is this is just a we try hard and to put it this is a lot of information, right? And when we talk about it over the years, if we've talked about this, it's nice that we have all the information on one page. So if we've talked about something in October, it's still on the page, right? But that leads to a lot of numbers being real small, a lot of color coding to try to group things together. Uh so again, we've been talking about this page since October. It's the same page, just added more information to it. It's a lot of stuff. Don't expect you to do it tonight, but take it home, think

022about it. we have time to talk about it because the scores are what they are. We can't change them, right? School doesn't start for another two months. You know, it's not a rush, but I can tell you that the principles and the teachers have already looked at this. They've already talked about it. There's probably already plans of action in place, right? You know, the first step is that there needs to be some kudos given in some in some certain areas because those are fantastic, right? the second page of this again that this is something that you'll use that we'll talk about tonight later on again if you'll remember going into board goals rather than work as a board goal rather than worrying about every score all of these scores on a page we focus on

023one thing purely and that's third grade and we talk about third grade and we set goals for the future years of what we want and so so specifically we'll talk more about this in executive session when we talk about the evaluation. Okay. Any questions? Can you remind me again? I know you said it, but I was at the beginning. This goal R1, when was that one set and when the goal star 2025 was set? So the goal R1 would have all of these are set at the beginning of the year. Right. Okay. Okay. Meaning so we're going to set we're going to we're going to set a goal, right? So we're going to we want to on the first release test we know we've taught 35% of the material but we're given the release test

024so we're going to say we want a 50 right then we're going to say when we give the next release to which is going to be in March February time frame we've taught 80% of the material we're going to want a 65 right so if we project a 50 and we get a 55 it doesn't change the goal too right the goals are set before and then what we get is what we But that goal doesn't change just because maybe the first course were good. So we set those at the those goals are all set at the beginning of the year. Okay. Including this goal, this final goal. That's correct. Right. So what happened is behind this. So now the meets factor comes into play. So each campus has has an ability group when I

025I call it a comparison group. And so you're going to you're going to look at comparable growth from fourth grade to fifth grade, from third grade to fourth grade, and all of that's going to factor in. And how you place with your peer group is going to control points. Then there's a calculation. Uh here's three things. You get the best of the two. And at the end of the day, you're going to come out with a score that's an A, B, C, D, E. E, F, but no F. I mean, scope, no E. probably no. Anyway, wanted to share that with you. If you could remember, uh earlier in the year, well, you haven't seen accountability for 2023 or 2024 because of the lawsuit. Earlier this year, about two months ago, we released the 2023

026accountability. Uh we've shared 2020 for accountability because you can see the scores but you haven't seen A B C D because that hasn't been released. Yeah. Because it's because of the lawsuit still go R1 and R2 are set by campuses. They're all set by campus. Okay. Yeah. And so that's one of the things going into so like if if if a campus wants to be a B, right? They run through the calculation and they say, "Okay, last year this group scored like this. This year we need to get approaches to this. We need to get meets to that because if we do that, the calculation is going to get the points to do that." So, at the end of the day, everybody's trying to get a B. Right? So, that when you see those numbers,

027what do those numbers tell you? If if they can follow that goal and get to the end goal, their campus would be a B. Okay? That's the idea, right? And so there's a lot of what if and what if and what if and what's the calculations look like if we do this. What are the subgroups doing? Right? You got to know you got to know all of that. Right? It's just not a shot in the dark, right? That's all I have for unless you have any specific questions. All right, Miss Taylor, financial report. Yeah. So, you can see the financial statements. So, we're 92% through the school year. Our revenues, I think, is what's going to drive the deficit budget, just not getting what we expected to get. Our expenditures are are kind of on

028point um through through all of them, but especially in general fund. I think the shortage of revenue in property taxes and in um the difference in our budget for students and then what we actually had coming. Anybody have any questions? Very quiet. All right. Bond report. All right. First thing, pass this out for you. Take one. Pass it down. Two. Take one. Pass it down. [Applause] So, I'll I'll just start with the overview. This is the sheet um that you that you've seen from day one. Um again, at the top has everything. None of that's changed. You can see the numbers in the yellow at the top, the what I call the budget slack, the green, the additional projects, those calculations. Those numbers have changed changed a little bit as we spent. Long story short,

029you can still see that I I'm looking at around $800,000 budgets like that of other projects that money I might need to uh fill gaps as we especially as we get close and we find other things that need addressed. You can see that I've got a 6.2 million number dollar in the green. I think out of those areas, that's what's going to be left. The 6.2, you add the 2.277, 277 which is the variance between the construction price versus the bond total. Then if you look at um as of you look at interest the $3.3 million that's in interest. Um you can see all of that totals up to almost 11.8 million. If you add the the junior high what's remaining in the junior high bond to 226 gives you a total of just a

030little over 12 million. You can see that you everything in the blue you've approved. W the WC West pres westb junior high roofing projects at 4 million brings that number down to about eight. U the wild peach water will at 495 brings that number to about 7.5. Now below that the things in blue those are things that have already been approved. If you look at the column on the right where it says uh football, softball, baseball, that's a that's a on the agenda tonight for you approved. And then underneath that, the Skyward district-wide buildout for uh technology and financial services. Um I've already included those in these numbers. Okay? So if you approve those, just know that's already reflected in this numbers. So long story short, my projection is you're going to have about $7.5

031million to do other projects with Right. Everything on the left side in blue has already been taken out. That is correct. Including the two things on the right. It's already been Yeah, I've already taken those out. So like when you see to the right FF and E, if you go up into the top, you see that line item FF and E. I've taken the Skyward build out out of those numbers up there. And then for the scoreboard, you see um or for Skyward buildouts, you see technology. If you look up here, you see technology. I've taken that out of that number. And then the scoreboards out of FF. Okay. The things that are in yellow um have not been approved or accounted for yet, but could be in the taken from the yellow numbers above.

032Uh one of the things we've worked with Justin, we know that the student center flooring cafeteria area. uh take it now. Now that we've taken out the uh the credit union banking area, that whole floor hasn't been touched since uh the original construction in 2000. And so we're going to need to replace that. We we do have an estimate. I have that estimate number on on there. So we're going to probably need to do that. That would come out of that 811 that I have identified at the top. We're also look having uh looking at the student center restrooms and then the what we call the fine arts restrooms that are in between the band hall and uh the choir room having those redone as well. We still have the marching band tower. Uh we

033really don't want to do that until all of our parking lot projects are completed. Other things we've looked at is the agriculture barn, the barrel roof, wild peach roof, and the CHS roof. And so that 7.5 number, the agriculture barn, the barrel roof, the wild peach roof, the CH roof, that's that you can say that that 7.5 number is what you're looking at for those projects, right? trying to fit fit those in in that the student center the fine arts student center and fine arts restrooms in the band tower would all be identified as coming out of the yellow 811. Now on top of that um as Dramala finishes their project there is still money within their budget that they control that you approved that some of there's and talking with them there will be

034an additional amount of money coming back to us after the completion of that that's in their budget that will be unspent. So what that number is going to be like I don't know but there will be some So that kind of gives you where we're at financial sitting in a good position. We're on time. We're under budget. We're adding projects to it. We're picking projects that are that are good for our kids, good for our school, good for our community, and to make our experiences at Columbia High School and in CBISD much better. I heard you right. You're you're you're saving. You're holding on to this 7.5 for these air four. That's correct. We should get the roof things in the next couple weeks. We should know. Well, we're thinking in the next month we

035might have an idea. We got to find out whether they qualify first, right? Because of the way those are things are attached, they come through a structure under needs to be appropriate. So, Looks good. Yeah. As far as the project, you can see uh demolition has started. F building is about 90% down. It's not hauled away, but it's down. And so, as soon as they get to the end of F building, uh they'll come across and take out the portables. Uh and then they'll come across and take out the A building and the dancing balls area. the welding member of the welding building will stay. So it's happening. Um the band hall renovation is in progress. Looks good. A lot of area it's huge. Um personally uh they had to I took care band has

036rece is receiving all new storage for their instruments and as well as all new storage for their uniforms. Uh their uniform storage will now be mobile. So they'll have five huge mobile parts that they can store their uniforms on now rather than having to build and attach to the wall take it. And so the idea is, you know, every the whole project that when we started the bond was everything's multifunctional, right? Just because we have a room, we don't want to block that room into one thing. So by doing this uh it and working with Mr. Hacket, it's going to be it's going to be a a space saver for them and allow them to uh keep the uniforms in a smaller area, take them out of there. If you can imagine it's game night

037or whatever you want to call it and you want to bring the uniforms out. Not everybody has to fit into a small room anymore. You can will them out into the big band. So it's kind of changes the ball game on how they work, right? If you needed to, you could actually load the carts into the truck and take them to the site if you wanted to. So uh it's I think they're bigger than the trailer, but uh you could if you had a trailer big enough you could. So anyway, things are going good. Uh any specific questions? We're going on time. Most of the furniture has been delivered. Uh it's had an elevator issue and so they taken a couple of days off, but uh I want to say three or four days they'll

038be done. And then we have a second wave of furniture coming after the after July 4th. Uh which would be our a furniture and uh our special ed room behavior special ed behavior and life skills rooms. for those furniturees will be here after the beginning of July. Other than that, we're we're ready to start. Um in the next week, we'll be sitting down discussing uh when Mr. Kenny's going to have registration and what night we're going to we're going to do our public opening and let the community come walk through and uh so we'll be scheduling those things pretty soon. But we're August one's looking like go ahead, make it happen. That's exciting. It is very exciting. All right. Legislative update. All right. There's a one pager in your yellow folder. Just on the left,

039the lock that says 2526 legislative. 2526 legislative update. just you know most dividers in a little bit is going to be talking about finances but kind of wanted to give you just a one pager of something to talk about. I divided it into how just again there's a lot of stuff but I just picked out some of the more u thought ones you might be interested in. Um the first one is House Bill Two. Again, that's funding. It's the teacher pay, the four and $8,000 we talked about. Um foundation program certification. One of the things that that's coming in here, you know, we have a district of innovation plan. Um and what's happening is if you're in a foundation program, you have to be certified. So, if you're a science teacher in fifth grade science,

040you have to be certified to teach fifth grade science. If you're teaching biology at the high school, you have to be certified to teach biology. We have u this year it doesn't go into effect this year, goes into effect next September. So, next September. Um if we don't have all certified people in the foundation program then we have to submit a plan to tea to be to be completely done by the end of the 2930 year. So as you can read the tea leaves by the time we get to 2930 we have the DOI exceptions are gone all the way across the district. So four foundation programs right? So, and that we we take that to be math, science, English, and social studies. Uh, another big change, uh, teachers children are now eligible for prek

041and they're eligible for prek, but they're also also eligible to draw funding in prek. In the past, we we would put a teacher's kid in a prek classroom, but they're there and they don't draw funding. There was room and so we we let them go. Now, we're able to put them in there and that draw funding. So, that's kind of a that's a that's a neat thing there. House Bill four was uh the accountability and test reform and at the end of the day that you know that got tanked at the end. So hopefully that was a good start for the next legislative session. House Bill Six. If you'll remember uh several months ago, I asked you if CBISD could uh become a member of this Senate bill or House Bill 6 coalition to change

042some discipline policies of which we were a part of. Um so in ISS as an example, um campuses now have the opportunity to put a kid in ISS up to 10 days. In the P uh the past legisl past legislative session, they changed it to three days. We used to have three-day assignments, five day assignments, 7-day assignments, nine day assignments. It took it away and said you could only give a maximum of three. It it it it changed the discipline world, meaning you did they took options away from us. Those are back. You can put them in up to 10. If you want to keep them after 10, you kind of have to do a new year. And so, uh, evidently, they're also bringing possib possibility of bringing, uh, some citational offenses back that we've

043lost. And so, we're waiting for clarification on those things. Uh, House Bill 27, financial literacy, has been added to the foundation curriculum for high school graduation. Right. So, yeah. Doing it for a while. Been doing it for a while. So, into the game, weren't we, Mr. Miller? Yeah. Um, House Bill 353 was a veto by the governor. This one was um having upgrading the offense if somebody was trespassing on school grounds. Uh, it it was going to like if it if it something was a class, it was going to make it a class B. It was class B, it was going to make class A. And so, at the end of the day, it passed the House and the Senate, but the governor vetoed it. Interesting. Um, he's only vetoed two things so far. House

044Bill 1586 requires the state to create a blank form for exemptions for vaccines. Meaning, there's going to be a blank form on the state website that a parent can print off and all they have to do is sign their name on it, turn it into a school. Wow. Then we all get measles. and we all uh House Bill 2674 prohibits any additional regulations on home schools. Um yeah, meaning homeschool. Like if somebody signs out to go homechool right now, again, they come in, they say, "We're going home." They send you an email say we're going home. The answer is you withdraw their kid and they go. Meaning you can't ask them questions. You can't. This is just a clarification that we can't play hard notes like we used to. We can't ask for information. We

045can't, oh, you got to do this, you got to do that. There is no regul. You can't. We're going to homeschool. Bye. So, that's just a clarification. Uh, House Bill 3546. They did not, we've talked about in the past where our board officer elections are in May. There's some talk about trying to force any election enter one uniform date in November, right? They didn't do that, but they gave you the option to if you if boards or municipalities that have officer elections not in November, you now have the right to pass a resolution to move them to November if you want and um do a resolution where you could change the terms of the off of of your board to to fit that need like maybe somebody has to go an additional five months, you

046could you could change you could change uh the requirements or the terms to fit it until it get back until it gets back in line. What would be the benefit of that? Well, they're trying to save money, right? Because if you have an elections in in November and you have elections in May, you know, if you you could you could be elected seven spots or elected one spot and you pay the same amount because you share with everybody, right? So the idea is well it'd be cheaper because you don't have the elected may. Well the question is what do we do in November if you not have bond you really only do it one time. So the idea was well if you did it in November it might be cheaper for you right because everybody's

047doing it and it's and it's based on like you have to keep this many places open this much time you have to staff them. And so the idea was if you did a calculation might actually be cheaper on you in the long run. One year in May, it was like 16,000. It cost us. Yeah. Because Yeah. There weren't a lot. Meaning if you're sharing when you're sharing in November versus sharing in May, it might actually be beneficial to you. But the disadvantage to November is you have to pick a political party, right? Yeah. And you know politics already November. There might be people trying to get bonds passed that get them passed in November. Yeah, true. Uh so tenant bill two vouchers, ten bill 4, homestead exemption to 140,000. Senate bill 10 commandments in the

048classroom and it has to be in a 16 by 20 frame. I thought that was odd that they identified the size and we've already had someone offer to donate. Oh yeah, Linda Kell spoke to us. I'm sure that church was like Okay. Okay. Oh yeah, we'll have somebody wants to do it. Um Senate Bill 11. The board will have to vote whether to allow a designated time for prayer and reling and reading of religious text at each count. Is that okay? Back that up. When we have our moment of silence at Is that considered That's different. That's different. We have to decide if it's the same. Okay. Gotcha. You're going to have the board is going to have to vote on whether you're allowing it or not and then when it is. When it So,

049if it's the same time, the question is how long is how long do you get to pray and how long do you get to read a religious text? Is it is that a moment of silence? Right. Okay. Um S tenate bill 12 all staff school district grievance policies and the the prohibition of diversity equity and inclusion of duties. So the reason I put this is that as an example, if you want to include it, the diversity, equity, inclusion of the inclusion rules applies to everybody on the campus. Meaning if the custodian does something, the custodian can't say, "Well, that's not my job." It's it's identifying that these rules are in place for everybody that's employed in the school district. you have no protection because of whatever class of employee you are. Um, Senate Bill 13,

050Library Advisory Council. Again, we talked about this a few meetings ago. U, the right to, let's say, the right to information, the right to how libraries pick their materials. If either 10% of the parents in the district or a total of 50 whichever is lowest the lowest threshold request a library advisory council then the board has to form a library advisory council and the the rules I mean the law also specifies how many and who has to be on the committee. Senate Bill 24 requires the state to redo the Texas essential knowledge and skills and grades 4 through 12 social studies to identify communism and discuss the ideologies and the practice of communism. Senate Bill 25 in 20 in and starting with the 2728 school year, campuses are required to have it to let students

051have 30 minutes of daily physical activity or a total of 130 my minutes per week in in grades preK through 8. clarifying that recess cannot be taken away as punishment and also that all school districts are required to offer a half a credit of nutrition and wellness at the high school and so you have to teach it says you have to offer it and I do believe we still have health and wellness on the books don't we have books huh we have and we have nutrition classes right so we have them on the books right yeah so it won't be a Uh, Senate Bill 260 changed the safety aotment to $20 per from 10 to $20 per ADA and then uh you get we get $33,540 a campus which I think our total a lot

052is like $210,000 somewhere along that this year. Senate bill 326 in our behavior policies if some type of of behavior was motiv motiv motivated by uh anti-semitism then we have to punish it accordingly but it requires you to make a judgment. Senate bill 401 homeschool participation the rules have changed on this. The role was in the last legislative session that we had the right to vote whether to allow homeschool students to participate in extracurricular activities in CBISD. The rule has now changed. Homeschool students have the right to participate in our extracurriculars unless our board votes not to allow it. Try to make us a bad guy every way possible. Um, Senate Bill 413. This is going to change things a little bit. Board minutes, including individual attendance by name and the vote record by name,

053have to be posted within seven days of the meeting. So now normally what happens is we put out a board brief and then the minutes come to you in the next meeting. You vote on the minutes and then we post them. So it's anywhere from 28 to 35 days. So now our minutes are going to be required to post before you approve them at the next meeting. Oh my goodness. Jennifer, you better get them right. And we put things in like we only if it's a unanimous vote we say 70 unanimous or if it's 52 or 43 we we put that. The only time we list a name is if you're not voting. Now we're required to say when it's 43 we have to name the four and the three. So then after we approve

054the minutes and if there was a change we don't have to approve them anymore. That's quite honestly. Okay. Why would you if we already have them posted? Why do you need to approve them? Okay. And then if you do, do you have to go back and then re post them once you amend it? That's again, that's what it's what I'm saying. I don't What's that's we're going to need some guidance from Tazby on. Yeah, that's Yeah, because every meeting you have, you post you approve minutes from the previous meeting, right? No matter what you Okay, that's my point. I don't We're going to need some guidance on this, right? Does that start? When did that start? We don't know. Okay. That's what I was going to ask. Supposed to start. Not yet. Not yet. We

055figure it out. Yeah. That's exactly right. Uh and also uh the video the video of the meeting is going to be required to be posted out. Right. That was only if you have this only if you have that. Now it is it's going to be a recording. Senate bill 2929. Extracurricular spectators spec specifically said that spectators can be ejected from a contest. They do not have to receive a warning. Generally what happens it's just a clarification of law. It's always said, "Hey, we're going to warn you once, we're going to warn you twice before we throw you out." Now it's no warnings. Go. Anyway, thought you'd find some of those interesting. And I did not get a warning when we got here. We're going to talk to our soccer parents. My point was the warning

056has never been a thing. It's always been just a way people operate. Yeah. And and and then people got to say, "Well, you didn't even warn me. You don't have Yeah. It's just clarification." Extra session. Oh my gosh. Now that we're as confused as the legislature, let's go to the projected budget. More confused. Okay. You have three documents. You have three documents. One's the preliminary totals for this paper flipped. I paper flipped them for the actual budget. I want to start with the preliminary values because we have we have to discuss what our M neck taxable and INS neck taxable numbers are. So I just highlighted them on your your page to show that um the M net taxable is 2.6 billion dollars and our INS is 2.8. This is the starting point of where

057we take this plus times our our tax rate to come up with what we're actually getting for property taxes. And that kind of you know starts our budget process here. And then the next is the proposed budget. A couple things from our last meeting. You'll notice that there are some changes. Uh, one of them is on the revenue page. When we actually took the numbers from Mo Casey when we showed you the Mo Casey pages and it showed current law and proposed the new proposed, that current law was not the same as the current law budget they gave me. the numbers were different because when they put out those reports just for everybody to go on and look at any school district they're taking numbers from TEA our PE's numbers and the last time our

058PE's attendance was on there it was about 2560 or 2580 it was it was lower so it wasn't really comparing apples to apples and so I didn't notice this really until yesterday and so I called Mo Casey and said hey can you update these numbers for first because we really would like to see it what we really is the difference between current law and the new law for us and based on our numbers and so that's what I've changed in the budget. So there's several things like that. Um, and I also added the English teacher back in function 11 on the operating budget. And so you can see that actually brought up the other change is instructional materials allotment. We had just had $500 in there, 500,000 just as a placeholder. Uh, on the Mo

059Casey run, they told us our instructional aotment is the 174 55 567. So that was a change as well. on both revenue and expenses. But you you you whatever you took out, you took out on both sides. On both sides. Yes. It changed. So it's a change, but didn't have an effect on it was just pointing out the different changes I made. And so that brought our deficit budget to 1.67. If you you also have a green sheet. I just kind of want it's a little bit bigger than this. Yeah. Right here. And this is the last page of the Mo Casey Ryan. So, it's showing that the remaining M revenues after the required compensation, we should be getting about 1.3 there. So, that would leave us with We're looking for $300,000. Yes. 34045,000. Yeah.

060Uh, everything else pretty much stayed the same besides, like I said, just tweaking the revenue budgets that they they updated for us based on current law and our our true numbers. are really page one and two. Those are the ones that you really are comparing. The rest of them is just comparing year-over-year for revenue and expenditures. You might have any questions? It's just a lot of numbers. Okay. And it's still all a guess. Nothing here is true and firm, right? No. I mean, it's a guess right now, right? Yes. Yes. We don't we don't know what our teachers numbers are going to be. The total effect that we have on again they they're running their projections on a 93% on 26 26 2625 ADA. Yes, they are. So, we used to get at the bottom

061of our report like what our actual fund balance is and what the 13% would be so that we can kind of decide where like 13 15 and 18 is that what we used to get st 15 and 18 12 18 that was helpful to me if you in the future do that for next month. Yeah, I can get it to you. I just want to watch that balance go down so it's real to us. Our fund balance right now at at the end of our audit was it was right at 11.2 million and if we do have which we will have a deficit budget at the end of this year. Like I said, I I don't feel like it'll be because our expenses are way over. I feel like they're going to be pretty spot-on.

062is is going to be because our revenue is is lower. We're not going to have as much revenue as we projected. Um I've been kind of kind of working on I hate throwing numbers out, but I mean I think we'll be around our budget or maybe a little more just because our expenses are coming in. um you can say a little bit under budget. Mhm. But so let's say if it's 1.5 1.5 million then you're going to be down to about 9.7 9.7 and so in your fund balance. So if we had to hold what is it five months of revenue? Well they say we're required three. Um, in a CFO meeting I went to, they said if you're June, you really should do five just because of how you get your money. Um, and

063so our expenses on average are about um, let's say 2 million. So we would need at least seven that's about two and a half million. So you'd need probably at least well almost 8 million just to have three months. So if we take the the 40 million that's what we have to have three months of total budget if you yes if you take so it would go up every time. So you would do the 40 million divided by 12* 3 and that's what you would need 10 million and that's for three months. So we're already going to be below we're already going to be below. Yeah. [Music] Do we just Is that a report? It has to be reported the auditors. It shows up in the financial in your first report. It does affect our

064bond rates and stuff like that, right? No, it doesn't affect our credit. Okay. Because the question is is I mean I mean there are districts in this area that I know that didn't have a fund balance at one time, right? I mean, it's one of those things. I mean, it's a Can you still buy a car? I mean, you got to have $45,000 in the bank to buy a car. You know what I mean? It's one of those questions. How's it going to affect you? It's all about the overall picture, right? They're going to want to know if you don't have a fund balance, but you never go into fund balance. Yeah. You know what I mean? How much is it going to hurt you, right? Well, not unless you need it and you don't

065have it. It's like buying that car. He just asked me a question. I'm just answering the question. Yeah, but I mean there's there's you got to keep going with the scenario to really, you know, question is, you know, what do you want? Yeah. $5 million. If you cut $5 million out of the budget now, rather than have your percentage is going to change, right? Like right now they're giving us money. So if we have the same amount of money right now, we have a certain percentage and because of the total budget's going to grow, it's going to be less of a percentage. Same number, less of a percentage, right? Yeah. As as long as your expenses are going up, your requirement is going to go up. Yeah. Absolutely. It's one of the questions they ask

066us in the bond with when we have to talk to the people in New York. They ask how much fund balance and we've always had more. They ask what our they ask what our board policy is too. Our board policy is that you have a minimum of 12%. A minimum of 12. A minimum of 12. We've got that. Right. And that's what I'm saying. Your policy and what people ask that's the question. What you have is a management tool. That's our management tool. That's your board policy. You know, first the the financial regulations of the first report is a is a a state TEA generated report. That's I mean what they could just say, hey, we want you to have 10 months. But it's not anywhere in your operational guidelines. to an art that says

067we we want 12% but it said around 5 million correct I don't know how to explain it other than somebody's put the first report on you as a as a tool so one might ask the question Fine. One might ask the question, how do you change it? If you don't like it, how do you change it? You know, because that's if it's not if it's not a good tool and it's not helpful, then we don't have to go by it, then why do we from my understanding there's there was some legislative actions regarding the first report and how it's done and the questions are asked and what the guidelines are. All right. Because you've heard you've heard legislators say we're not giving you money. You got fund balance. Use it. How can you say that

068and require districts to use your fund balance? And over half and 75% of the district state of Texas adopt a deficit budget. How can you come back and put regulations on both sides? Right. We gave you less money, but we're requiring you to have more funds. How can you do that? Right. So Lind is right. The question is how do you how do you make somebody understand this? Because I don't foresee any way to add money to fund balance anytime soon. That was the case, we wouldn't have a death. Exactly. Well, you know, the deal is when we started last year, we we based a we based the budget off of 2560, right? We were looking at 2560 and 88. We ended up with 2333. We we thought 25. We're going to end with 2633

06926 2633 is what we're going to be turning in. We're going to base it next year on 26 2625. Okay. Right. So, uh, you know, hopefully by looking at the cuts and as we've talked about the cuts by campus, you can attach that to the attendance and expected enrollment. So, hopefully the information is out there that we're either going to have the attendance or you're losing the people. I mean, you have to you have to lose time. I mean, and and that's what's happening and this is the first year that I mean, our campuses have really seen the hits, right? That's what we were talking about the other day. We had the little meeting. We lose 50 kids. That's a huge number. you know, if I was going to take away 50 kids from us,

070right? You know, that that's a huge number for a district of our size, you know, right? Yeah. You know, um in in the last meeting, we talked about a possibilities list. We've identified some positions for the future. You know, quite honestly, we could make that number Julie's talking about that 344. We could make that up real quick. But those are those are hard those are hard numbers and hard hard decisions and hard things to do. And right now, you know, we could riff, but we come back in a month from now. And when you riff, you're having to try to say we're in a deficit budget. But if you come back and riff and you put money in fund balance, Yeah. then you give somebody, right? If you if much like we talked about, if

071we rip it riff in February, they have time. That's that that's generally how things are done. When you riff and then tomorrow, you don't have we have to notify them they don't have a job tomorrow. That's a whole different ball game. And then you're passing a budget in two months that right now we said we're going to make budget amendments, right? If some change, if we're off a little bit and all a sudden we have a little bit more money then we made a bad decision, right? So it's all about timing when it comes to those. So with this 1.6 Six. Was that Did we leave I guess I follow I didn't make the earlier meeting. Did we leave a bunch of those contingency money in there? Yes. Okay. So all that in a previous

072meeting all those extras we talked about are still in the budget. Okay. Yeah. So we could go take those things too. Yeah. So I'm not concerned about if if the if the numbers are true and we're looking for 344. I'm not concerned about getting to 344. We can make it happen. Can I Okay. Anybody got any more questions? Well, I need to take you to the second part of it. All right. So, I need you to look at the the one pager that Julie has. All right. Basically, what she's giving you is that last page of the book and Casey report, right? This one pager right there. Then, I need you to find this. I've updated this for you. Okay, I'm updated. So, you'll put this one on your left and this one on your

073right. We'll go to work. All right. So, again on the left, that's the Mocha and Casey report, right? So, the first line under SY 2526 89th legislative session, right? That's giving you the numbers. So, make Moch and Casey saying that as of right now, we're getting 2.80587 more than the current year law says. So we're getting 2.8 million more. Now the next line says total compens compensation in increase requirement of 1.339025. So there's three parts to that. So now go to your right hand. All right. So in the teacher co in the compensation requirement the first step is teachers. Okay. And if you'll notice this is the teacher scale that you've seen over the last several years. Right? You can see that looking years of experience at 23 24 we paid $56,000 for step zero.

07424 25 $57,000. Now we move to 2526. But you can see the next column says DOI, counselors, nurses, librarians. Then the next column, you can see for step zero, step one, and step two, there's nothing. And then all the way to the right, I've just used the same numbers for those steps. 57, 57, 680, and 58, 350. Then starting on step three meaning if a teacher teacher only next year is on step three then you can see they get step two plus $4,000. So you can see step two last year was 58350 plus $4,000 and then all the way to the right would be 62350. So that teacher moving from step two to step three would get the $4,000 base. And then the same thing for step four, they would get step three, which would

075be the 5880 plus $4,000 to 62880. Then moving from step five on, you can see like step five would get the step four 59415 plus the 8,000 and we go from 59415 to and so forth all the way down the list. Okay? Then if you turn the page, this is what you've always seen. Those are the teachers that are left that are over the chart. And we are required to give each of those $8,000 as well. Okay? So, you have to do that. You don't have a choice. You have to do that. You do more if you want, but you can't do any less. Okay? Then underneath on the second page, you see the 2526 staff support aotment. We get a separate a lotment based on our ADA which this year will be 2633. You

076get $45 per ADA to give other staff excluding administrators raise. So that number is going to be 118485. Okay. So you take all the people from the front page that are in the yellow, right? So everything in the yellow on the front page and then the teachers at 29, 31 and 36 years of experience on the back page and you have to give them all 4,000 or 8,000 and then for everybody else in the district excluding administrators, you have to give $118,485 in raises. Okay, those two numbers match up to what Moch and Casey is telling you is the 1.339025. Mo and Casey's estimating that those two things will cost you 1.339025 of the $2.8 million you're getting. Okay. Then for all of the raises that you're giving, the money the state gave you does

077not in does not include money to play IRS, TRS, or anything else. So when you add that 10.45 in, it's going to cost the district another 130 $140,000 to pay that. When all said and done, Moi Casey is saying you're going to have 1.326135 left that you can do something with. Of which Jenny has shown us that we're looking for 1.67, right? And that gives us the $344,000. All right. So, just to be clear, okay, I got you. So, in the previous deal, we're How do we bounce from 1.1 to 1.6 six all of a sudden. I know it all. I know we're pulling. We added one teacher. Okay. Okay. All right. So, we've added one teacher. So, 1.1 uh to So, you added what? $75,000. The the numbers Mo Casey had for current law.

078Yeah. Did not match up with what they gave me for our initial revenue projections. And it was based on what they were using for our ADA. And one of the ones they were using, they were using 2560 or something like that instead of the 2625. And so there was a discrepancy there in what they said that we were getting. And another one was in our calculation of property tax. And so yesterday when I started trying to tie back the current budget to their their reports, it wasn't matching. So I called and asked him and he explained the differences. And so he updated the Mo Casey run so that we could actually see with 2626 for the new law and 2626 ADA for the old law. He showed me what the actual differences were and that's

079what I presented then on my budget for tonight. So basically we're not getting as much money as we thought were this year. Yes. The current year. Not not projecting for next year. This year of which that's been the story every other board meeting it seems like. Yep. Less less ADA more less chars less even SHs. Now you got to pay back more shards, you know. Yeah. Welcome. If it doesn't make sense, you're right. So, with our budget in current law, we have these we have these raises that not the new raises, but from when a teacher goes from three to four and four to five, we don't have. So so on this chart right now there is no money required. So for a teacher if we hire a teacher at step zero or a teacher

080moves from zero to one or from one to two there is no money from the state to give them a raises unless we want to include them in this $118,000. No, I get that. But like right now it shows, you know, in 20 256 if we have a teacher going from from a threeyear to a fouryear that's what a 600 500 something $535 increase. It's not in the budget. It would have been. It would have been. So this this this Yeah. This gets adopted every year. This is not set. So it's a hiring schedule, right? We hire people in at this and we readopt it every year. Yes. But but we don't really we don't put these into the budget like how many teachers we think we have. Okay. So luckily I'm sure these numbers

081are already in there. Well, if if a teacher was a fiveyear teacher and next year she's going to be a sixyear teacher. She's still going to get that same fiveyear salary. There was no changes to anyone's salaries in her budget. She's moving forward include a step in her. So she's keeping her numbers simple. Gotcha. Right. So you have to do this. So I was hoping that they were cuz that way back it out. Well, that way instead of you're given a raise that you were already going to give anyways. So really it would have been like $3,500 that you're giving. The problem has been right in the basic aotment. You could have you if it had been in a basic aotment like the house wanted, you'd have come through and could have given a 4%

082raise to everybody and and now you could have still given a great raise, but you would have instead of looking for $344,000, you would have had $800,000 in excess, right? Because of how you So, so I don't I don't mean like a percentage raise that we always give. I'm talking about from from a four-year teacher to a fiveyear teacher, fiveear teacher to a six-year teacher. No. No. So, how do we figure out in the budget right now? We don't. We don't. Every year's no. Okay. So, so we just put what we think we're going to spend in right in salaries. We really don't know until So, like let's just say we have a if we have a 28-year teacher right now and they resign, their money's in the budget, right? New money doesn't come in

083until we hire the new one, right? And if we hire a new one at step zero, right? Then you save then you save money then. So yes, if somebody leaves, that placeholder stays there until we hire somebody new or we take it out. So So you base your you're basing this year's budget on the teachers we had last year, correct? With the same salary. With the same salary, they get a step up with the cuts taken out. Oh, without a step up. Yes, without a step. Yeah, there's no 50,000 this year, they're in the budget for 50,000 next year. Got you. Not 50,850. Yeah. Based on the current law. Based on current law, but there's no need to do that because they're going to get the four 8,000. I was hoping it was added in

084there. Then we were going to save a little something instead of it being. So, they were going to cover some of that, but money was already. So here we talked a little bit earlier and we can say that I and I talked to administrators now. So the ball game has changed. Okay. As you can see there's no money for nurses, librarians, counselors, behavior coordinators, instructional coaches. There's unless whoever you want to decide gets some of this 118. Right? H not much at all. Right? So what other things can be done? Well, all of this is about PES. PES is becoming drastically important, right? So in the PES world, if this makes sense, let's just use ADA, right? This week, we're submitting all of our attendance information for the whole year. But our whole budget's built

085on this, right? What we project at the beginning of the year, what the state pays us through the year is a projection. Right? We project you're going to get this. We pay you through the year and then and then now and June you turn your final in and then they rerun the calculation and now between now and in September there's going to be a settlement. We either paid you too much and we'll hold some out or we paid you too little and you will pay you more. Right? So that's the way the team systems been built. Right? So now things are moving in a direction where they want teams to be real time meaning why can't your attendance number be right today and so you can see the whole thing moving towards tea having access

086to your teams and you submitting daily meaning but it's going to take a while from being able to not worry about your attendance because you're submitting in in June for September and now we want to take you to where you pay attention to it. So that is an example on the teachers. The teacher code in the ping roll is what's called an '087. Okay. So anybody that's not an ' 087 doesn't get the four or $8,000. Okay. But we have people like instructional aids. Oh no, excuse me. Instructional coaches as an example. Well, instructional coach may be working with a third grade math teacher and go into that room and teach two periods a day. So, they're teaching a class, but they're not coded in PES as an 087. So, they're not eligible for the

087money, right? So, all this is leading to ball game changes. You have to understand the funding buckets. And so, in this district years ago, we would have people that what we called split funding. They do a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and a little bit of this. So, they get a little bit little bit out of the regular M budget. They get a little bit out of title this, and they get a little bit out of special ed, but you have requirements. You have to do maintenance of effort, time and effort, sign this, sign that for all of these. And it and it's hard to do that. Or you can just say you're straight funded. You're all this, and you do this. Okay. Well, what's going to require us now is

088we've done all that, but now we're going to need to undo it to take advantage of this. Because the idea is if somebody is instructing kids, they're a teacher. If our instructional coach is in a classroom teaching kids and the teacher is watching them and helping and it's a team effort, that's a teacher. But right now, those those employees are not turned in as teachers for us. So, let's say our instructional coaches become an instructional coach, but they get they get a change from an 041 to an 087. Well, when they go from an 041 to an 087, they now become eligible for this money. Okay? Because the state of Texas for to get these numbers is looking at the 087s we turned in in our fall pens last December. So that's what when Julie's

089talking about these numbers and I'm talking about these numbers on this page that was required to give for teachers. It's a guess based on last year's December what we turned in, right? But we've cut some people since then. What if we changed some roles? What if you're a district that's hiring 50 new teachers? They didn't show up last December. You're hiring 50 new teachers. The state said that I'm giving you this money, but you're having to pay this money and you're not going to know how the settle is until you turn peas in December and you find out in March. Well, what if you end up giving more? They're since they're basing on last year's 087s. Yeah. And you create more 087s. Is that going to what's that going to do? You g you going

090to get less money than what you got? They give you a guideline. What's an 087? An 087? He gives you if they teach kids half a day, they're an 087. If they're certified, where that money come from? It's going to be short, isn't it? No. No. That's based on old data, right? New data. They're projection. So in September, you're going to have money to be able to do that, right? Your problem is is when you get to May and next August, what it looks like? Yeah, you don't get paid to the settle. That's right. Right. Because you've done a because they've done a they've done a overlook and said, "We think you need this much money, so this is how much we're giving it and we're dividing it." You hope that's right. So, we have

091to internally make sure that number is right. We want to be on the good side of it, right? But we also have the availability to do we need to change some roles because our instructional coaches work with kids. Okay. Is there a percentage of hours that an instructional coach has to a day? Half a day. Right. But instructor co what if our instructional coaches goes to this campus and teaches one period. Goes to that campus and teaches one period. Go to this. I mean that's they don't have to be assigned to the campus. That's what I'm saying. This is one of those things we everybody thinks they know what it is. But do you really understand penis? Because at the end of the day, they could be identified as a 1.25 over here, 1.25 over

092there, 1.25 over here, 1.25 over there. That equals five. Now, they're an 087 teacher and they qualify for $48,000 because I'll give you an example. I'm just going to use the name, Holly Heel. I use her example today. instruction coach does a great job for us in elementary math, but she has this many years of experience and you have a teacher with this many years of experience. The teacher is going to get the $8,000 raise and make more money than Holly People next year and work less days. So, you know, the the Apple Card's getting upset. Part of this is legislation wanted it to upset the Apple Card. wanted it to. It is because now you're forced. Now they forced the deal. You're going on a campus. This person got 8,000 and that person got

093nothing. But they both work with kids. So why can't we just code them all the same? They have to meet the requirement. We can't. So but we have to do that. And now everybody else has to relearn what we've done for 10 years and make it right. And if and if we do that and we have to change some roles meaning this instructional coach might been working over here teaching a bunch of lessons and this instructional coach you're just sitting in meetings with lesson and planning with teachers. Guess what? You plan with teachers, you don't get any money. You work with kids, you get money. But we got to know upfront and we've kind of given the instructional coaches to the campus and let them use them how they want to. Well, we're going to

094have to go back where it's district directed and say you get this if you do that. But we have to if we're going to pay them that, they have to do that. We don't get a chance to change it. Change the ball game a little bit. So, is there like a deadline that you have to like assign them in order to turn in those numbers to have it affect our our fall our fall team submission which is in December. See, but it's all about how we submit it in ps right as an example teachers quite honestly in ps we don't have all of our teachers year years of experience right right because you know why it's not an issue never has been an issue you know when the only time it's an issue is if

095we have it right locally so we pay them right or when they leave us and go to another district and they want their service record, then we create the service record and we send it with them and the new district puts them on the scale, right? Or when they retire and they send it to TRS. The rest of the time it doesn't really matter. Now it does because they said, "We're going to pull this information and I can tell you right now our team's information isn't right." So when they say, "Oh, you have 159 of those." No, we don't. We have 189 of them because I had it pulled. So you know what? If you were in instructional aid for five years and then became and you're in the second year of a teacher, well,

096how many years of experience you'd have? It doesn't say teaching years of experience. It says years of experience, right? So like a pay scale is only a pay scale. We have a teacher that comes in, it's their first year to teach. What if they've been in instructional aid for 10 years? Do we have to put them on step zero? We normally do, no questions asked. But we don't have to. That's our decision of where we put them. The TRS years they paid in TRS, they still paid in the TRS. True. These are all games. But most people said, "Oh, you can't do that. They'll start at zero." No, they don't. They start where we assign them if they have credible experience because TRS is TRS. When you retire, you have to have 30 years of

097credible service. Not 30 years of credible service as a teacher. You know, next year it's going to say has to be how many years of a certified teacher. I agree with you. I agree with you. Especially with the DOI and stuff trying to go away. My point is we have two months. So look at the new rules. There are there are you're asking where's the 344 coming with? We might be able to find half. We just got to have time to do it and we got to retrain ourselves and different we got to know what the rules of the game are. Right. First time we seen any of the legislation rules or last Thursday, right? As an example, Jennifer's over special ed funds, right? Right now, our regular budget has to fund special ed because

098she doesn't have enough money to cover everything that they do. That scenario I just talked about with her coordinators and stuff. What if we're able to do something like that? Recreate the ball game. Now, as an example, a teacher gets paid for 187, right? Her coordinators get paid say 195, right? So, it's the 187 daily rate to the 195. So, let's just say that's $3,000. If we take those people, put them back in the 187 teacher roll, right? She saves the $3,000 plus whatever stipen she pays, right? They go on the 187. So, she's still paying for the 187 teacher. Now, that person gets either a $4,000 raise. the state pays us that. So, the person's making the same money. Right now, she's saved anywhere between six to $10,000 an employee. You can add that

099and if she now can fully fund all of her people and doesn't have to pull money from the regular budget, the regular budget has a savings. All right. Now, the problem is you've got to show all this on the expenditure side and the revenue budget side to Julie for it to show up in the budget. All right? Meaning, we can't say, "Oh, it'll work out." Right? It's not been uncommon to where we wait till this amount of time, we've just paid somebody. We pay him. We pay him. We pay him. We pay him. We pay him. And at the end of the year, we figure out where the funding comes from and we make it right. Right. We can't do that kind of stuff anymore. It happens. Not saying it's you, but it happens. Right.

100Right. So, but it hasn't been practiced in recent history, but it used to be common practice. I'm just saying there are some things that we're going to have to do different. Maybe we can take advantage of some of this and actually help ourselves a little bit, right? or it's going to upset the apple cart because you're going to have teachers making more than assistant principles. You're going to have teachers making almost what principles make. You're going to upset that part, right? And I'm just telling you, you know, wait till September and paychecks go out in September. So have you heard that for so with this increase in with the teachers are they going to are they already going to fund this for the following year too? Yeah. Okay. So this is because we were talking

101about that. The answer the answer is if it they say in the past when they said $8,000 they mean eight 4,000 year one 4,000 year two. This year it's all up front and they're going to next year there is no additional money. Next year they are funding the same money. You get you get 8,000 upfront this year, you get the same money the next year. There is no money for raises in in the second year of the banning. So if you wanted to raise them from whatever this looks like, it's on you next year. But they got to bring that money to the table again. Correct. But it's all going to be on your pimps, right? So the way they're going to do it's all on you. You turn them in as an 087. They

102got they be an 087. You got to turn them in. You got to say I mean you got to say like I say split funded. If somebody was split funded they were a.5 this and a.5 that we're going to have to have 087s.5 and above right but like you said at grade 345 may not be any money there. I mean surely they won't take that away because how how would you pay your kids to pay you $8,000 the last two years? But so here here's what you're going let's just let let's play this ball game. The instructional we're going to go through and we're going to give instructional aids uh half a percentage raise.5% raise or $500. Okay. They're going to be in the teacher's classroom that just got an $8,000 raise. How do you

103think that relationship's going to be when the teacher says, "Hey, I'm going to sit over here. Would you go work with those kids?" What do you think that's what do you think that's going to do to morale on the campus? I'm just saying you ain't I mean I hope everybody understands what's just happened. This is not hey yay and it's going to be yay for some. Yeah. If you're one of them if you're Yeah. But you need to understand the people around you what's fixing to happen there. Right. Principles. Are y'all uh on board with great communication here? that's gonna be on y'all to spread that all that goodwill, all that love. I don't know what else to say because it's gonna be up in down in your world. So with that, I'm just putting

104this in here. So here's what's going to happen, right? Teachers, nurses, librarians, counselors, right? Their schedule has always been bu built off the teacher teacher scale, right? You can see at the bottom 195 195 202 210 210. We could there's no money included them for raises. If we were to still link them to the new teacher, there's no way we could afford to pay them, right? And so we're going to have to have a scale just for them. Right now, their salaries are already built off of the one we had this last year. And so that's why I put that column in. It says 25 26 DOI counselors, nurses, librarians, because the easy thing would be to do is just keep that the same. Their salary structure doesn't have to change. They make the same

105money. Right. But you know, it's hard to argue that the people in the classroom deserve the money, right? That's hard to argue that. But the problems now is, oh, I'm used to working with two eights, right? And I need to work with $8,000. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, it's just I'm not saying the teachers do not deserve every dollar they I agree with 100%. But it it's just irritating that the way the state put this out. There's no way. I can't imagine any districts, you know, that's not in the same situation we're in on this. Let's just say you're a local district building new schools. How' you like to have this kind? Hey, Greg, be going crazy right now because the numbers don't match. That's what I'm saying. It's I ain't never seen a match. And

106it's true. Anyway, we'll keep providing information. We'll keep doing it. Just keep in mind our timeline, right? We're looking to get it right by August. We're slow. We're slowly going to get there. We're going to work every day to try to find everything we can do to get it right. No shortcuts, no easy ways. Find somebody in there for raises. Well, that's the idea, right? That's the idea. That's going to be tough. It's a lot. It's a big difference. So, I mean, you know, it doesn't be exact numbers, but how how many other employees are there other than teachers that fall into say right now? 43 430 employees, 199 teachers. Really, how many employees? 400. What? Let's say 430. 199 teachers. That's a guess, right? That's close. Not off much. So, do you know like

107let's just say I mean I know it's not just out of for curiosity. Say if we gave a 2% raise to everybody else, do you have any idea what that number is? It's a lot, isn't it? No, it's not. So last year a 2% raise for for everybody else other than teachers $200,000 and we got 118 already and minus 34. What's the number? What's the number? The 118 is is that is what they're giving us, right? that we have to use that we have to use. One of the things that we're going to do is we're going to run those calculations and we'll get with the salary spreadsheet once we start looking again. I don't want to do something change it and have to redo it again. We'll have we're going to develop a process,

108change everybody to where we need them to be, then recalculate it. Let's go through and by the time we get there, you're going to know what this is. I just I want to make sure teachers know we're doing every single thing we can. Not teachers. Everybody other than the teachers know that we're trying to do everything we can to to give everybody something. Have we beat that dead horse? I think we have. Okay. Well, let's move to the next. All right. Our action items. We have a motion. We have a item to consider approval in addition of Skyward Finance implementation to Columbia High School bond projects. And we've talked about this before. Julie brought it to us and um I think twice we've talked about it. So, if we want to continue to discuss it,

109I would need a motion um that we consider approving the addition of Scourard Finance implementation to Columbia High School bond project. Okay. Thank you, Ray. All right. So, now is there any discussion about it? Do you need some more information from Julie? So, the motion is just to keep pursuing towards it. Is that what we're talking to? I think you asked for for us to look at a five-year contract and we we did have that should be attached in there. Is it? I can discuss it now. We just need a motion and a second in order to discuss it by Robert. It's in there. Do you want Julie to go back over it and talk to us about it or explain anything on the the do a five-year contract that they did lock in our

110yearly what it cost yearly for three years without an increase and then the final two years it increased like 4%. The only thing that's not included in the five-year contract is the um posting, and it's about around $5,500 a year, and that would be a a yearly expense we would still have in the budget. Um it would once we approve it and sign a contract they'll start like in July of starting to build it and then from like October till probably February we'll be training on it. They'll do some training here some will be on online uh and then it would go live April 1st of next year. So the total build out of is is $255,826. That's a onetime cost. That's a onetime cost for us that covers the five years. Yes. And that's

111coming out of the bond. Correct. And it also is going to end up a savings as well. It will I mean if we what we have with einance right now. E Finance would is 65,000 a year this year and it would go up every year. So this comes out to be about 55,000 a year. So we're saving we will be saving in that five years you'll be saving at least 10,000 a year and then we'll just need it runs about um 22,000 a year plus the 5,000 hosting which is a significant savings over einance. There won't be no penalty from getting away from E finance. No, we'll we'll sign we'll sign our contract in September to renew that for a year. You find it we have we have to because this won't go online till

112next April. It'll take them almost a year. Um and so we'll have that cost. We'll still be and it's in our budgeted number. You got all that put in the budget? Yes, that's in the budget. And then the um I think we'll have one more year on Wendy's side of it. We'll have to pay for a year, but then E Finance I mean Skyward is not going to charge us for the HR side for the first year. They they just didn't charge us because they knew um Wendy's contract goes from July to July. Mine's in September. So they won't have they won't do the HR side and the finance side at the same time. And so they'd like us to get the finance side up and running and then by October of next year they'll

113have the HR side up and running side of it. So that's all in there. It's um I think it's a good deal myself. I think it's a better program. that has more controls in place and I think it'll be good kind of start with a clean slate and get all the old things out. Anybody have any other questions? Okay, we have a motion by Ray and a second by Jackie. All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Okay, that carries. Okay. Next, we're going to consider the approval and addition of Columbia High School scoreboards to the high school bond project. So, in there, we've talked about this several times. Uh if this something you'd like to do, uh here is a price for dictronics for uh uh replacement of the scoreboard at Griggsfield, the replacement

114of the scoreboard at Renfro field, and the replacement of the scoreboard at u the soft. I'd like to make a motion so that we can discuss it. If you have questions, I'll make a motion that we approve the scoreboards for Columbia High School out of the Columbia High School bond project. Second. Okay. James, does anybody have any questions for Mr. Galloway about the money or any comments you'd like to make? Comments? Yeah, I just have I that's just me from coming from the side of the table that I've been on before. I know it's coming out of the bond. I understand that we need the improvement, but if we're doing all this cut and all this hold back on everybody else, I have a real hard time throwing a scoreboard up. I'm sorry. That's just

115me old school and being the teacher side of the table. It's not the same money, J. I know. I know. Just to make me feel better about this vote. It's not the same money. Well, I mean, it's not the same coming out of the bond money because we've worked hard and we've saved money, right? And we've cut this and we've cut that. We're I mean we we we're at a long list of ads. Like I said, we got seven. We don't spend it. Yeah, we don't spend it. I get that. I just We save money to do things like this. Let me ask a question. Like if we approve it now, when will it actually when will the work start? I like I mean Dacttronics will order the school board. I mean, we're talking about

116installation. August. August. one time. We're hoping to have it ready for for for football first football game. That's the idea. Anybody uh give any commitment for u sponsorship? I haven't sent it out yet cuz you haven't approved it. So, we want to approve it before we get any kind of You have to. So, remind us about the sponsorship thing. I think that'll be helpful, too. So, the idea is the sponsorship for for the great skill scoreboard and the and the 42nd clocks that go on the field. The idea is to do sponsorships guarantee of $5,000 a year. 2000 two five years $2,000 a year. You pay 10 grand upfront. You pay it out over five years. But the idea is to do that for the first five years and then then do it for the

117second five years. If once you've done that, you've paid for the school board and that money can be used goes into the budget. That goes back in it will go back in into the original fund. Right. the general basically sort of a loan so that we can get going with money that we have that like we don't spend it has to go back and I do agree with you it doesn't look you know but that's part of our job is to help explain things and I think our teachers and our administrators when they hear feedback like that I think they try to clarify as well. So if we just, you know, if we just know that's what we need to do and we need to contact people that we know are concerned and say, "Hey,

118I want to explain this before you get all upset." If I'm learning and I want you to learn, too. This is not what you think it is. And explain that, you know, we have the money and it's from the bond that they approved and we feel it's a good investment. And in the initial bond, this was in there. So I don't add on because we have it. But we Yeah, we've been frugal and we've been able to save bond money. $3.3 million in interest. Yeah. Yeah. And we also got interest off of what we've drawn out the bond and we can't use that money to make payments on the bond. We have to spend it or we have to spend it. We have to spend it or lose it. We can't put it back into

119the bond. But it is it is allowed to the law does allow for us to use this money on the school. It's not It's an improvement and we right we can do it. So everybody speak up to the folks that ask questions and I know I'm gonna ask. Yeah, that's good. That's good. You been on the phone with anybody that got any interest? I I've been on the phone with a couple and saying it's a it's a possibility. But we'll uh if you approve it and and then tomorrow or this week, we'll we'll get a little flyer put together and get it out to the players that need to see it and hope that they'll do something. But the idea is for uh Griggsville would have would that offer would be only for Griggsville. for

120softball and baseball. The idea was that we'd be selling four sponsorships on each board and they would be the same, if that makes sense. If you do it, you get you get advertisement on both school boards. The same four for the first five years and then a new four for the next five years. Right. Anybody have any other questions or comments before we vote? I mean, Janna, vote the way you feel like you need to vote. I'm gonna Yeah, I I have to. Okay. All right. All in favor? Uh, we have a motion by Becky and a second by James to consider approval and addition of Columbia High School Boards to the Columbia High School bond project. All in favor say I. I. All opposed. Opposed. Okay, we have one opposition. All right. Now, we'll

121go to the action items. the consent agenda. Does anybody want anything pulled from the consent agenda? Got lots of minutes in there uh to be approved and the board policy update our property held in trust vendors for academic curriculum assessment testing materials and for professional development services. Anybody want anything? Let's see. Getting there. Okay, there's more on the back. More vendor approval. Athletic equipment software and performance. Let me help you find it. I'm good. Oh, you're good. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you say that. Okay. I need a motion to approve the consent agenda. Make a motion to approve consent agenda. Jackie second. Okay. All right. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say I. I. All oppose. Motion carries. All righty. We're going to go into adjourn to close session

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