CBISD Board Meeting 03-18-25

001are to our district. We thank you for each pupil, each student and their family. Um we pray Lord that you would bless them as their they trust us with their children to teach them and to prepare them for their future. Um I thank you for each administrator and staff person that's here. I pray that you would bless them in their efforts to help our kids. I pray that you'd be with our board tonight as we consider the um work at hand and the uh issues that we have to decide on and I pray that you would give us wisdom and clarity of thought that we would understand um the things that are being presented and that we would make wise choices and as usual Lord we pray that you would help us to be agreeable

002even when we don't agree. In your name we pray. Join me in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God with liberty and justice for all. Honorian to thee one state one and indivisible. Thank you. You may be seated. First out of the business is recognitions. All right. And so tonight we're going to start with our what we call our 226 awards. Uh CBISD is roughly 225 square miles. So 226 is going the extra mile. So we're going to recognize some of those that have done that tonight. So Miss, are you ready? Yes. We have a lot of student recognitions tonight. As you can see, we are going to start with the high school. We have one student

003from there that Mr. Kenny would like to recognize. Join We are proud to recognize Columbia High School junior or Columbia High School junior Jordan Williams for her exceptional accomplishments. Jordan's dedication to excellence shines through in multiple areas. She has qualified for the state choir competition you'll see her later on the campus communications pictures performs with the color guard and has earned a spot at the UIL congressional debate state meet. In addition to her impressive academic and performance achievements, Jordan submitted an original play titled And the Moon Was Gone at the Texas State Thespians Festival in November. That play has advanced to compete in the national contest at the International Thespians Festival this June. Along with all these accomplishments, Jordan is currently ranked fifth in her graduating class, further highlighting her commitment to both her studies

004and extracurricular pursuits. Congratulations on all your accomplishments. [Applause] [Music] So, Mr. German, do you have anything to add? What can you tell us about the national competition? Well, uh, first thing, it's the first time that we've had a student from Columbia High School, uh, accepted to the National University of Indiana in Bloomington um, in in June. That's where apparently I'll be celebrating my birthday. But uh the the award the plays will be read and the awards will be given out at the national at the national convention uh for the for this for the entire nation. Wow. Just to follow that up tonight on the agenda further down is agenda. We're requesting approval to be able to send her and Mr. German uh to that national competition. Thank you very much. All right. Next up, we

005have um three students from Wild Peach that competed in the science fair recently. Oh, sorry. Four um that Miss Ki is going to present. I'm going to bring Mr. Raymond up with me because we did bring their posters to to show you. So, if you're familiar with the science fair, if you um it's optional um but we had four students from Wild Peach Elementary participate in our science fair. The way it works is judges go they judge if they if they place at a certain level in the first round, then they get to advance to a second round. So, we have students at Wild Peach Elementary. They all four of them ice ribbon. All right. So, let's see if we can get this. First, I have Wayne M. Smith. Wayne, if you want to come

006up and stand behind your board, Wayne's Wayne's experiment here. Look, Wayne, I have I have something. [Music] I think it was pretty entertaining to watch Mr. Mr. Raymond took the kids outside. Mr. Raymond, do you want to tell them what y'all did? This Yeah, this was probably our highlight of the morning because he would he would come out there with a nice little cone. This cone was a traffic cone that got turned into a volcano. And so we we would take it take it out with our little coke and that tube would send it up. It was supposed to We were thinking just a few feet. So we had a measuring stick and he had to measure how high it would actually go. So then he would switch off and get two and then he

007would just load it down with six and see what kind of difference. The greatest one was whenever things went wrong. The best one the best one was whenever he was he was say about this far away and he pulled the string and through the hole where this where that little plastic piece goes it squirted out towards him. Okay. It didn't go towards him. It nailed him. It nailed him. He was just like his leg was soaked and he just chilled out with it. So, well done, buddy. Well done. [Applause] All right. Next, we have Eggrop, which was Haley Hill. Haley Hill. [Applause] So Haley's is one of the projects that advanced to the second round and she earned a medal and so that's pretty fantastic. Haley, here is your remember shake right. There you go.

008Now, she had she had an egg and what she would do is she would drop it and she came up with this was not anything where because I came with last year's stuff, all these ideas and she's going, "I want to drop an egg and then drop it onto something and then see if it's going to break." And so we said, "Okay, well, what do you want to drop it on?" She said, "Well, I want to drop it on some foam," which was a lot of fun trying to find. And then also into water and then with nothing. So, she did that and the and the I think the cutest thing was was was me finding the phone because we had an old chair and I'm sitting there slicing it up trying to get know

009it's so hard to find foam but and she her experiment actually shows that that it never broke whenever it hit the foam except for one time because it bounced so good. What happened when it bounced? It bounced out of the container. Of course it did. It bounced out. So that ought to be documented. That's a fail. Great job. All right, our next two, um, Kamari Free and Anori Mchu. [Applause] They went with the magnetic slime project. Yes. And this one had a really good start because last year we had a had a group of three that did magnetic slime and they saw it as kindergarteners and there was no swaying them to do it. She they were going to do it both of them. I even gave them the rules. Each kid is going to

010do their own number one. Okay, that didn't work out. And then then then I went through and then I brought them independently to me to go over different wonderful things they could do. No, both of them were so focused that hey, we had a team. So So they but they did a wonderful job and got all slimy and did a great job. And so they actually measured measured when they did two different recipes and saw when they would be in a reaction. And so they would have their little ruler and measure how much distance it would be before before the slime would actually jump at at the magnet. So that was theirs. [Applause] Got one big picture here. Well, we're getting ready for the picture. I want to tell you all Mr. Raymond had a

011goal. Last year our students did well in place. this year his goal was for our students to advance further than just the uh just them ribbons and we he he met his goal. So I'm proud of Mr. Raymond as well. I actually was gunning for uh the big prize. I was actually whenever I was done I told her I was disappointed. Hold it down just a little. Very good. [Applause] All right, our next group of student recognitions are going to be our UIL academic um first place winners. We'll start with Barrow Elementary, Miss Galloway. Okay, we have three students to recognize. I think I see all three of them crowd, but maybe not. But we'll start with first place, fifth grade maths, graphs, and charts, McKenna Cravy. [Applause] All right. And then we have first

012place third grade ready writing Carolina. [Applause] And then we also had first place fourth grade art Zoe Baker. And I think these kids worked really hard. It is super nerve-wracking to perform and do these competitions at UIL, but both of them clearly did great. So I am super proud of them. [Applause] You want to join us? Yes. Come on. Oh gosh. I was here as mom tonight. Galloways are idol. Very good. [Applause] And then our next two first place recipients from West Columbia Elementary. I'm very excited and proud to announce our winners for West Columbia Elementary School. These kids dedicate themselves to come to practice before and after school. This really is an all outside activity. So, we appreciate the parents supporting their endeavors and we're so proud to have some first place winners at

013WCE. First in third grade music memory for first place, Emily Zuniga. [Applause] And in fifth grade listening skills, in first place, I'm not sure if they're here, Riley Trible. Before we go any further, our UIL grade 2 through 8 academic competition consists of Columbia, Missouri ISD, Sweeney ISD, Bay City ISD, Stafford ISD, and Elcampo ISD. So very well when we're recognized in first place it's it's it's well learned. Yeah. Okay. And our final group um and our largest group is from West Brazes Junior High. Right. So we had seven who brought home first place at West Brazes Junior High. So I want to take a moment to honor each one of them and to piggyback off of Miss Bolton. They came early, which is really early in the morning, um, and practiced and stayed after

014school and really put a lot of effort in. So to bring back first place for our district is amazing. So first off, I have first place sixth grade chess puzzles for Connor Goodman. All right, I have first place seventh grade calculator applications goes to Braden Deise. [Applause] First place, eighth grade modern oratory goes to Katherine [Applause] Ais. I have first place seventh grade modern oratory goes to Miss Shaylee Tyson. [Applause] First place, sixth grade social studies goes to Levi [Applause] Bower. First place, seventh grade science goes to Morgan Tumlinson. [Applause] And first place eighth grade dictionary skills goes to Elizabeth Clayton. All right. Squeeze this way a little bit. There we go. I'll show her. [Music] There we go. Great job, guys. Great job. Great job. Okay. As much as we like having you here,

015I know you're looking for a good time to leave and like this would be it. Thank you so much. We'll take a little break and uh congratulations. Let you exit the building. We're going to we're going to put you on the field and have you run, man. I'll see you tomorrow. Okay. Can I take a picture with you? Say bye to your teachers. Okay. I thought it was accident and her together. Seriously? No way. Have fun at practice, girlfriend. We're going to take you somewhere good for dinner. They were playing together by myself. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Those drunk men's don't Yeah, there's adults that don't do that. [Music] And you're fourth grade, right? You don't pick any like sir. I saw today. Yeah, it's quiet. You got campus communications. I'm going

016to follow one of my kids throughout the whole story. I don't even remember what if y'all sit in sit. All right, start normal order with Barrow. Hi, Campus Communications Principal Galloway. Okay, so um the ones we just recognized were our first place winners for UIL, but these are all of our winners from Barrow Elementary from the UIL academic competition. Um I'm not going to name them all off, but lots of first, second, and third places. Very proud of them all. They worked really hard and so did the teachers preparing them for the competition. So, I just wanted to recognize them. In February, we held um lunch with loved ones. Again, just trying to connect to our community and give our students the opportunity to have their special ones come and eat with them. Um and

017we had the book fair at the same time, which also produces a lot of money for our library. So, um we had I think I counted on the check-in sheets 427 visitors over the course of the five-day period. So, lots of people coming to eat um with their little ones. Wow. And then our last thing on here, we did have our celebrity reader day um to kick off um Dr. Seuss week. So um I did want to recognize a few people who came to read for us. We had Lorie Cancan, the mayor of West Colombia, and Marie Kohi, Wild Elementary principal, which that was the one they were most excited about. Um Susan Herman came and read to Miss Sen's home room. Miss Ethel from his children's daycare. The kids were also excited about her.

018Most of them came up through her pre-K program and they love to see her. We had um Kenjo's Barbecue. We had Ashley Lancaster and Melissa Edner from Brazoria Chamber. Caroline Brick Brickmire from Lucy Sips Suites. Alda Smiths from Smitty's General Store and Pottery. And she even made pottery with the kids after she read her book. It was awesome. Um Crystal Selenus from CBISD Police Department. Michael Dwitty, he is the one of the pastors at Cornerstone Church. We had Wanita Cantou again, one of pastor's wife and our AP's mother-in-law and one of our students grandmother. Um Kevin Schroeder from Mighty Oaks Foundation. Two Columbia High School athletes, Haley Brousard and uh Dossi Abdullah and then Patricia Morgan and Diana Roberts from West Columbia Walmart. So a lot of people came in to read to our students

019that day. Um and they were all smiling faces and we had a great time. So I just wanted to recognize them as well. Okay, me. Thank you, Principal Kenny. All right, so this is our state edition. Uh we're going to recognize some people that qualified and participated in state. Uh in January, freshman Benner Rodriguez placed first on OBO in area auditions and was selected to the All State band. Uh she placed fifth in the state of Texas for the 1A through 4A and participated in the All State clinic and concert on February 12th through the 15th. Making the All State band means that a student is in the top 2% of music musicians across the state. So that we're very proud of her. Um, next we had Abigail Mish and Sophia Pena qualified for the

020state swim meet, which is a testament to their hard work and determination. Abigail had a strong showing in the sprint freestyle events, placing eighth in the 50 freestyle and 11th in the 100 freestyle. Her speed and focus were on full display as she achieved personal bests in both both races. Sophia excelled in the longer freestyle events, placing 15th in the 200 freestyle and 11th in the 500 freestyle. Despite battling an injury on the finals day, she uh showed incredible grit and determination, bettering her time in the 500 freestyle and achieving a personal record. Uh the Rough Neck Choir participated in solo ensemble contest and represented CHS very well. There were 16 students that performed solos, two of them earning excellent ratings and 14 earning superior ratings. There are 13 students that qualified for state. The

021Madreal and uh Trouble Ensemble earned superior ratings and also qualified for state. Then we had Jordan Williams who we recognized earlier. She submitted her original play called And the Moon Was Gone at the Texas State Festival Festival in November. As we talked about, she has a chance to advance to compete in the national contest at the International Festians Festival this June. And last, we have senior Samantha Palashes who participated in the state powerlifting meet and she placed ended up placing fifth state for uh her weight category. So proud of all of them and their accomplishments. Thank you, sir. Junior High principal was serio. All right. So, we had our second annual West Junior High career fair where we reached out to um community stakeholders and had them come in and talk to our students um

022as a career fair. They got to walk around and talk with each booth. We had Chevron Phillips come out, Konico Phillips, Walmart, HB, Brazoria Vet Clinic, uh Brazesport College, Brazoria County Mosquito Control, Brazoria County Sheriff's Department, the United States Army, Lake uh Lake Jackson Sea Center, Rosoria Library, Texas Wildlife Refuge, the Parks and Recreation, um and the Community Health Networks. And they talk to our students about what you need to do um in order to as far as your education in order for the to um achieve these goals and careers. And as you can tell, our students had a great time. Um the army one was definitely a hit. The vets office was a hit. Um they they love to walk around and ask questions and um get an opportunity and that was on the

023day right before we got out for spring break. So um it's a great day. Our robotics team competed and as you can see our awesome robot in the bottom left corner. They've learned so much across the year. Um, we have the robotics team and the drone team at the junior high and they are separate entities, but they are learning so many things. They're learning coding, they're learning problem solving and competition skills. And at every competition they go to, um, they learn more things and bring back more things that they want to implement. So, we've been really proud of them. And then we have Tuesday focused learning. And so as you can see it looks different in each grade level where um the first 40 minutes of the day students are working in groups with teachers

024or on Thursday they are working with their grade level and um teachers are walking around helping them support their learning. Uh they may be needing reading points and their their reading. So just wanted to give you a glimpse into some of our instructional things happening on campus. And then we had Miss um Hannah Bernardi reached out to Faithful Paws, the therapy animal. Um and they brought in a bunny, Mr. Bo Jingles and Ruby Sue, the puppy, and they were actually going to our life skills room, but they were famous on campus. So, every student was looking out um to see the puppy, the dogs, and of course, they can we pet them? Is it okay? Um, but they were a really good asset to have on campus and for our students to be able to

025learn about them and so that was that was new this year and definitely a plus on campus. Thank you. West Columbia Elementary Principal Bolton. All right. On our first slide, I wanted to share with you guys that for the second year in a row, our West Columbia Historical Society volunteers came and taught our kids the old school games like Cats in the Cradle, Marbles, Jacob's Ladder, and the Whirly Gig. And it was quite a hit again this year. On the second slide, I wanted to share that we did celebrate the hundth day of school since we showed you communications last time, and some of these pictures were just too cute um not to share. Uh, slide number three. I wanted to give a shout out and thanks to St. Mary's Episcopal Church for once again

026sponsoring us through the Kitty Nash Foundation, our students going to Camp Allen again this year. We were able to send 91 of our students to camp this year. Uh, this slide really shows um the dedication of our volunteers as well who chaperon this each year. Not only do they give up uh their day at school, which they probably might do willingly, but they give up three nights at home with their families to go to camp with these fifth graders. Uh and I just think that says a lot about them. One of those being Mr. Langford, who was here this evening, and he was here because Connor Goodman had said of all the teachers that he wanted to invite to see him get his award tonight, that's who he wanted to be here. So, Mr. Langford

027was here to support him. But this gives you um an insight as to what the cabins look like at camp. And the food they always say is amazing. And I did want to brag on them because um I was told that one of the boys table at camp every night prayed over every meal that they ate before they ate, but not until every boy was seated at the table. I thought that was pretty impressive. Uh slide number five just shows you some of the activities. Learning to build fire. They celebrate their birthdays while they were there. They learned to build shelters. uh they go on history walks. Uh the next slide shows you their faces. This is what I want you to see. Look at the confidence that they're building that they get the opportunity

028to do these things, be independent, be away from home, and see what they can accomplish on their own. I think it's really speaks a lot. Um and then then in the next uh slide, I wanted to show you that we too are celebrating ReadAcross America, which is happy birthday to Dr. So, you can see we have some great costumes and smiles and reading everywhere, including celebrity readers at West Columbia Elementary School as well. I did not bring an exhaustive list of all of our guest readers, but I picked some of our fan favorites. Miss Jana Reed, Miss Rollark, our our former librarian, Miss Humber, and even Miss Co. He came to West Columbia Elementary School as well. I got to be a celebrity reader as well. It's my favorite thing that I did all week,

029I have to say. And uh last but not least, on the last slide, I wanted to tell you that rest assured, you are in good hands. The future of West Colombia is safe. Um on Dress for Your Future Career Day, these are all of our students that dressed for law enforcement. And I knew that would just cheer your heart and give you a sense of security moving forward with our future. Thank you. Thanks, Principal Coh. All right. Right. So, one of the things that we had um before since our last meeting or that we would have been able to present at our last meetings, we had the Sugarland Space Cowboys come to the campus. When they came, they put on a a good program for the kids, just motivational importance on um just being positive

030for themselves and teamwork and just um day-to-day um mottos, quotes they can say. But the whole purpose is to motivate our students to read, which reading for our kids is very important to get them to start loving reading at our age. Um the program consists of if they read four books and return a parent sheet, they will give the students two tickets a piece to go to free tickets to attend um space cowboys game. So we we enjoyed that. It was quite fun. Um I think I don't know if I have another slide, but the Okay, so one of the things I'm pretty um we're pretty stoked about at Wild Peach is um in order to create a sense of cleanliness and just all around um communal spaces, we have started the Golden Plunger Award.

031It is a It is a gold plunger that I I bought at a store. Was very expensive. Cost me a lot of money. And the only only people that get to touch it are the is members of the winning gender. So every week we um adults on leadership team we check the bathroom several times a day. Um we look for are the toilets flushed, paper towels on the floor, soap on the floor, and then the one who is the cleanest we award with the golden plunger. and they parade around the cafeteria to Chariots of Fire. And so, um, here are this is the first week. These are pictures from the first week. So, the boys were pretty excited to have won. Um, we do talk to the boy, being a boy mom, I talk to

032the boys about making sure their aim is on point, making sure they wash their hands when they're done. And um we talk about the different, you know, I love that you're trying to help clean the bathrooms because now they all want to make sure the bathrooms are clean to the point where they are trying to clean the bathrooms when they leave. But we talk about if it's fluid by the sink, that's good to clean, but if it's fluid in the stall, leave it be and ask Miss Annie to come and help because they want to win. And they don't win. They It's nothing tangible. It's parade around with the golden plunger to the song. But we've also started um a golden fork. It's a fork that I bought at the same store. It happens to

033be made of cardboard that is gold and we award it to the cleanest um grade level that has the cleanest table after breakfast and lunch. And so Miss Annie is our day custodian and then the staff that's on duty, they help to encourage the students to have clean tables after breakfast and lunch. And you'd be amazed. Miss Annie the custodian has said that she's it just makes her job so much easier since we've started the golden pledger and the golden work award. And then a few pictures from the 100th day of school. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's it. That's it. anybody signed up for sentence to be heard? Okay, we're gonna kind of skip around because we have a visitor here. So, we're going to do the uh action item one, consider approval in

034addition of roofing upgrades at West Columbia Elementary and West Bis Junior High to the Columbia High School bond project. Dustin, you want to take over and introduce James? Sure. the Aussie up the Aussie put it out man hopefully all y'all remember Mr. James Roberts with Darling Group was here in what January's meeting uh discussing this uh roofing projects for those two campuses WCE and the junior high. Since that time we have went out and public bid and had I think six different bids come in to uh look at replacing these roofs. We met with them, uh, opened their bids, compared their prices, made sure that everyone was, first of all, they were certified or approved vendors or installers for this roofing. Make sure that they had guarantees where they would be walking the roofs with

035Garland several times a week to make sure the application is going the way it's instructed to by the manufacturer to their specs, excuse me. And then baldled up. We we rated each one of these on a kind of a bid tab scale based on pricing, experience, reputation, etc. Those prices have came in at collectively uh between four and $5 million for each for both campuses combined. uh do we have that? I think you guys have seen that pricing and so if there's any questions or comments on that pricing sheet, I'd be glad to entertain that. But uh with that being said, once we tallied our recommendations, uh we feel that Alto Vista would probably be the the pertinent one to go with, but ultimately it's up to you and your decision. So if you if

036you do look in board book and the attachment um I did email that document to you today but um James you just want to you want to you want to go through the document kind of tell them what's there I will uh I think did we have a there it is there it is right there there you go yes sir so you have first your confirmation of that they're approved applicators and the second one's inspections uh base bid number one is broken into two categories here first one is the junior high and the elementary school. The the the column here is the total between the two. So you can see the spread uh unit prices uh 1 a 1B 1C all of these uh are like if we find rotted wood blocking which I'm going

037to go into uh as an example in the slides next item number 2 3 3A and four are all about if we find wood decking or steel decking or tectum decking that's not that is rotted that you would expose this would guarantee a square foot price for the district uh if you find any of that or a linear foot price depending on if it's a if it's a a wood blocking. And then we asked for an alternate for a 40-year system and and for the waterproofing at each campus here. And so you can see the prices the cumulative prices there on the right. But again, I think the thing that we're focused on tonight is the base bid. Uh would you like me to go into the system or kind of pause right there? I

038I so yesterday there were some questions about, you know, well, why why are the unit prices there and and so I think it quite honestly you probably ought to just take them through that. So, okay. So, 1 A, 1 B, 1B, 1D, that is 2x4, 2x 6, 2 by uh 10, and 2x 12. So, if when they're taking off, can you pull up the slide uh please for the just for the wood blocking? It's on the second slide. Um, when you're doing construction, you're going to reveal the last one. Yeah, six. There it is. You're going to find things like this where you're you've got some wood some wood blocking that is um in poor condition. And so the contractor has to document that, takes pictures to show how much is there. And then when

039they put back new, uh, then then that's a fixed price. And the reason that's important is because I've worked with clients in the past who haven't done that. And uh we're still decking maybe $10 a square foot to replace if you find it. Uh they they did $40 a square foot and because a unit price wasn't locked in in a competitive bid process, then they were able to just put whatever number they wanted to on that and to get the work done. So that's why that unit pricing is so important. And then the alternates we discussed. So e each of the bids like the bid for wild the wild, excuse me, West Columbia Elementary roof and the bid for the junior high roof both have $125,000 contingency in place. Right. That and that would be

040that won't be used unless unless the district approves that you use that. The contractor doesn't have the right autonomy to just say, "Oh, we're just going to go." He has to have written approval to do that and justification. Okay. Would you bring some slides kind of show what we're looking at? I would. Yep. Let's go back to that first slide, please. So, this is a little bit different of a situation. This was a project that was just last year. Um, but you can see here, uh, and I apologize. I thought this was a much better quality photo. Uh, gravel is on this roof. So, you don't have gravel on your roofs, but in either case, all that has to be removed. Um, and so, uh, when that's removed, then the next step is this is

041your, this is your substrate that you're working with. This is what your roof looks like, similar to right now. And what they do is they'll mechanically fasten. You can go to the next slide. They'll mechanically fasten any ISO that's needed and a coverboard. In this case, they're adhering the coverboard, but in our case, it'll just be fasteners that have to be done per TDI. PTI has very strict um uh fastening patterns that we have to apply apply by. So that'll be put down. And then the next step is your base ply is installed right on top of it. And then your last step is the top cap sheet is is applied. So we already have the foam stuff up there is what you're saying. Uh you already have all the insulation. So your existing roof

042right that as it stands right now that that coverboard will be put right on top of it and then those two plies and they do get windstorm approval or inspections or whatever while we're in the documents uh the the uh all the the uh they have to have they have to have a windstorm engineer built into that that cost so that you guys get the proper paper paperwork. Okay. And I don't know if y'all remember back, maybe it was in January and Justin brought some pictures and showed some of the flashing that was rust everything. That's all going to be replaced in this bid is what I was told. So, so in your Maria folder, what I've done is I've kind of just taken the base piece of it out. There's a document that looks

043like this. So just that to to get it out of 4.5 font into 14 font so you can see it that that that's kind of the base bid information right there. So what Justin basically the the administrative recommendation would be to go with the base bid for Alta Vista for the junior high at 2 million uh 50,000 and then West Columbia Elementary for 1,950,000 for a total of of 400 four excuse me for a total of 4 million total. What's the warranty on this? 30 years. Have they done work for us before? Alterista? No. No. So if you look down, most of our roofing projects in the past have been done by Vogler, which is the one on the bottom. So Vogler is actually doing uh the roofing pro did the sixth grade building at

044the junior high through Dramala and is doing the Columbia High School project right now as well. So all of these have been vetted. All of these have have done quality work before. Right, sir. And I think believe I believe all of them are on tips or choice as well, which is a whole different category of being vetted. So we're comparing apples to apples. These other companies were doing the same process. Everybody's apples. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And Alto Vista did show up yesterday for the for the opening of the bids. There was three people there. I don't hear the other two words, but that gentleman was sitting across the table from me, so I saw it on his his shirt. Houston, Dallas, I think. Dallas. You think Justin on the rotted wood stuff? We got a

045bunch. We may. I mean, there's a lot of it hidden and unexposed. We really won't know that till we get in there, but I don't foresee a tremendous amount. Uh, there will be some, no doubt, but it won't be an absorbent amount. What about all the AC back curbs? I don't really see a whole lot going there. Uh I mean, as I've gone around pre-insspection, just when me and the other maintenance guys have been up there, you know, I have a tendency to kick the curbs just to see. And I I've yet to find anything visible or noticeable. So, I won't say there won't be any, but I'm pretty confident there won't be a lot. And if we do find any, that's going to be pulled from the contingency. Correct. after it's been verified, measured,

046and documented. And from a time, excuse me, if approved, the timeline we're looking at is starting sometime in May because we want to get through the testing. Most testing is in April, right? Correct. What I'm suggesting. And with that, we can we'll coordinate a layown area for all their equipment and materials leading up to May. and then start May 1 f as early as May 1st we can we can get roll there won't be any obstru uh uh excuse me uh noise or restriction I mean it won't bother instruction uh it's a pretty quiet process a matter of fact a lot of those guys will start relatively early 4:00 in the morning while it's still cool just and yeah start to you know beat the heat and so by the time they're done with all

047the noise for that morning that's when we start getting buses rolling in what time frame are we thinking per roof couple weeks. Uh what what do we say four to six weeks for East Campus? I would just say just because we don't know what the weather's going to do every summer. I would just I I would say I'd be comfortable saying that by the uh before August we'd be done with both projects. Starting right in the middle of hurricane season. How does the insurance you know being in hurricane season? I guess our roof is still windstormed at the time being so that insurance would cover that. Yes, sir. When does the hurricane season start? June 1st. June 1st. Okay. Yep. Yeah. So, yeah, I was thinking because we normally don't see storms until September, October,

048but yes. Last July. So, the the all the materials are insured. Uh the the uh contractor has to have a certain level of insurance to do projects like this. So if a storm does come and let's say all his materials are on site and gets picked up and thrown in the Gulf of Mexico, his insurance would pay for the replacement of all that. So he'll have a builder's risk policy then. That's right. He has to have all that for projects like this. And there's also a payment performance polic that's required on like this. The other thing we talked about yesterday was, you know, this is the junior high and Westcl Elementary, but Barrow and Wild Peach are just as old, if not older. So, they're going to work on a plan of looking at that

049on the next phase. We was discussing, you know, Yeah. and the remaining pieces of the high school and the high school that we did talk about man hall different areas over there that are you know my my thought when I discussed yesterday is you know we we're looking at some access on the bond roofing is probably the biggest priority in my mind that we need to try to cover because it's the biggest dollar item that we're going to have and I know over the last three to five years the board has discussed about how we're going to do this and what's going to happen when it got to this point we knew it was coming And it it's always been kind of thought of that we would probably have to pass a bond to try

050to re- roof our building. So it looks like we may have the ability, you know, to go ahead and do all of them at this point, which would extend everything out for a considerable amount of time. And you know, we talk about we're worried that what is going to be the tear off at that point in time. But you know, West Columbia Elementary and and and the junior high, our two newest schools, which are 20 years old now. So 30 years from now, it's 50 years. If you look at wild peach, you know, that's going to be almost 80 year old 75 80 year old school. So more than likely when they get to the point that they have to redo roofs, they will probably looking at rebuilding buildings at that point in time, you

051know. But the other thing is I think the board's been prudent over the last 10 years of refinancing bonds and doing things. Our bond debt structure is such that you know if we didn't build anything else which we probably have some bonds we probably I don't see a huge bond coming in 30 years we will be almost debtree to be honest with you you know we have a very small uh debt service side so there shouldn't be any issues from a financial standpoint the school being able to afford to do a tear off and rebuild through a bond process at that point in time at least that's my thoughts. I don't know if you have anything on that or your thoughts, but so I I know that if you want to just to give you

052a heads up in your in your maroon folder, u there's a bond money update. And so this goes all the way back. U this is Virgil's basically this the top part is Virgil's report that he first gave you. [Applause] It might be in the very very back. That's it. Got it. So if you if you look at that um you know basically the the bottom left hand column is your phase one, phase two, phase three 100% budget. Um, under that is your A&E and those were the different other categories that all you go all the way down towards the bottom see the bond total that we passed for 79 million. The total of the high school project came in at 767 which gives you all the way to the right you can see the variance

053that 2.277 um uh underneath that the interest as of 13125 is right at 3 million. So if you look at that and then if you go above that those green numbers are the green that's my projections based on how the bond's going to finish that I think that the minimum amount we'll have available in the green which totals to the 6.9. So you add 6.9 to 2.277 the 3 million in interest gives you that 12.1 number. You also look at the 332 uh 332,000 that's left from the west junior high bond. So, you know, you're sitting close to 12.5 money. I think it's going to be more than that at the end of the day when we finish because I know the the project is as far as the line items are going well uh

054with Drramala. So, that's at a minimum. The number in the yellow you have that that basically a little over two million, that's slack that I haven't counted. There's other things that that I know that I think are going to come up in the project. And so I I've tried to do a really good job of making sure I have a very very conservative number to cover those things. Uh quite honestly, I don't think it'll come to 2 million. I think some of that will be left as well. So I think you're going to be looking at more than 12.5. Now keep in mind uh the the banal renovation is already included in this number. Okay. You don't have to take that away. Oh, really? Yes. Okay. So ban hall's done. So it's in this number

055already. Where did the money come from? What are you talking about? The manhole. Out of the out of the variances. Right. So if you came It came out of the yellow then. Yeah, it came out of the yellow. Okay. Correct. But it's out. It's out. Correct. You don't have you don't have to worry about finding that money. That is correct. Okay. So yes, that that's perfect way to look at that money came out of what was in the yellow. How long has our outdoor vist been in business? um at least 10 years. Well, I have I have to check that. I know that they have in order to be an approved applicator, uh they have to have a a thorough financial check. They have to be in good standing. And I they're also on tips

056or choice, which is they have to have a great reputation in Texas just to get on the list of of roofers to do that. Y'all use them for quite a few other projects. It's my first time working with them, but other guys in the in our in the Gulf Coast have used them. the campuses using Yandua. They did in their brochure. They gave it their proposal. They did list they had several references listed there. You You know Argo Roofing? Argo? Yes, sir. Where are they located? They're down south of the valley. Have you used them before? Yes, sir. I have. Yeah, I did schools with them with Lamar Consolidated ISD. So is the price what sticks out about Alta Vista is that the main thing that I guess you compare? Yeah. So in the way

057we bid that out 30 I think it was 30% of the weight of this decision was based on pricing. Uh there was other I think it was 15% on or excuse me 30% based on previous experience. Uh but yeah that's that's where they still previous experience with us voc. So the the only person that got points for working with us is Ver. Correct. And if you considered other things too like quality of workability, reputation. So off the vistas duck Duncanville. Um other projects. Let's see. Sweetwater, Texas, Dallas, Plano, Duningville, La Mesa, Brownwood, uh, Weatherford, Big Spring, Palestine, Plano, League City, Mineral Well, San Antonio, Lamar, League City, uh, Amarillo, Irving, Fort Worth, Abund, Well, Plute Brazeswood High School, Plute Intermediate, Brazes, uh, Brazeswood, Lake Jackson again, Love Cooper, Pitton, uh, San Antonio, Abene, Brian, Levelland,

058Love, Mission, Shallow Water, Hobs, uh, Freeport, Brassport ISD, Lufkin, Brownwood, Austin, Toka, Huntsville, Houston, Love, Roundwalk, Huntsville, San Antonio. Yeah. Do you have any issues calling Danny and see if they had any problems with them? How' you say the QC works on this on the roof? Who does the QC work? The manufacturer does. Okay. So, we want to ensure that it's going to be there that long that it's gonna that it's going to be there that long. So, we watch the the contractors because all of us know contractors and uh you might have a new guy on the job that always whatever that might happen. So, we want to make sure we're watching that and also make sure everything's up to the high standards that we require. So, that happens three days a week minimum.

059Would that be you or somebody else on your team? me and my team. I'll leave that. You personally be down here sometimes. Absolutely. I was here on your high school project as well. My team was on that too. Normally the school districts just go with the cheaper one since y'all are pretty much QC preference. Um you know if they're comfortable with somebody some districts that's not what they they do. I would say probably 90% of the projects 80% of the projects usually the best price. and and um Justin asked me just to check in with the contractor to make sure everything was covered in his bid because it's a widespread on that on that bid form. So I I just checked with him and he said he had everything included. You know they go by

060reputation or previous work experience. So that that counts a little bit in that particular uh installer's favor. But sometime there are variations as to why they would go a little bit outside of the lower price. But didn't work in the 2012 correct. If there was a company in the state that did do shotty worker problem, you would probably know about it, wouldn't you? Yes. Yes. Oh, yes, sir. Yeah. you. I mean, reputation, I think, would go pretty quick to manufacturers, correct? Who's having issues or whatever. Yeah, because you're getting called back to the job. There's a leak here. There's a leak here. I mean, you got You'll know if you problem with your contractor. Yes, sir. So, how's a 30-year guarantee go if this company goes out the business? So, um, the Garland's been around

061for 125 years. We are the manufacturer. That's right. That's right. Not well, me or or my team, but it's we have 4:1 asset to debt ratio. We're very cash heavy. We've been along around for a long time. So, 20 years down the line, you call them, we're there. We're still doing that all over all over the United States, Canada, Mexico, and the UK. this company goes out of business and you'll find another company to warrant. You won't have to worry about that. Yes, sir. You won't have to worry about that. Members of your team, did you say worked with Alta Vista? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So, I'm just looking at all of the all of the Braz. Mhm. 8 years old. I think we should go with them subject to your calling Danny and being sure

062that you get a satisfactory reference from him restd that they're satisfied with the work they did. I'll make that motion. Second by Becky. All in favor? Hi. Anybody opposed? Congratulations. Good deal. Thank you. So, James, we'll be in contact with you in the morning. Sure. Thank you for all the hard work you did getting this together and doing it, too. My pleasure. Nice to watch you yesterday and working with him and everything else. Yeah, appreciate that. I've never come to a bid opening, so that was the first one since I fit right in. Thank you. She gonna go up now and do report. Yeah. Okay. Let Justin go. Justin, you ready? Maintenance report. Standing. Uh, I don't really have much to say. I mean, I I will sidetrack and say if any other campus would

063like to follow suit with the golden plunger. I'd be all in favor of that. I would probably help finance that. Will you buy the plunger for me if they do? I will. An old school wooden handle plunger is very difficult to find. That plunger was 15 bucks before it got dipped in gold. Any any word on the on the well for Wild Peach? We're still waiting on TCQ, but I have talked to I met with him over the spring break. Uh he said, "Listen, I'm I'm confident it's going to go through because I've never really had anything come back with serious rejections." He said, "So, what I'll do is once I get closer to knowing that they're going to approve it," he said, "I will go ahead and give you the bid packet so that

064you can send back out." Get it out. Good time. Everybody's getting their bid packets and putting it in, TCQ has approved it, and so our timing kind of lines up a little bit better. Cool. Good. Good. It's good to hear. Okay. But other than that, I really don't have much for y'all. This is This was kind of a I focus more on on this roofing deal than I did the maintenance report. That's big stuff. Yeah, it's a it's it's a big thing for the district. It's it's exciting that we're going to be able to do something and I hands down agree with what you said as being is one of the most important deals because anything else you can go in and put a million dollars worth of carpet in and if you have a

065bad roof, you you just shot yourself in the foot on that carpet. So, I mean it is vital and and imperative. I think it's very important from the board from a public relations standpoint because there was many years when when the bond did fail and we were accused of not maintaining our buildings and not taking care of things and Mr. Galloway and you were here at the time was very instrumental in in having our campuses mowed and they look nice all the time. He does a great job continuing that. So I think it's just it's just a feather in the Bor's hat to show the public that not only building the building but because we have excess we are taking care and maintaining the other buildings we have. So I think I think it's a

066very good move. So thank you for what you did and finding him doing it. I was totally against doing all four of those until you brought the bond idea because You're right. 30 years we don't even we don't know where we're going to be at. You know, we may be consolidating with Sweeney or we may be the state the state may be running schools, right? Trump federal government is not Trump getting rid of that, but the state may who knows what's going to happen. Believe you said that. It could be te could might be Texas ISD by then. There's no telling what's going to happen in 30 years. Hey, you thought the rapture was today because you didn't get the email. So the rapture may be before 30 years. Who knows? Next message is what

067can I say? Thank you, Justin. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Have a good one. Safety and security. Safety and security. All right. So, I got two quick items and then I got something that might take a few minutes, so I apologize. Uh, first off, congratulations to West Brad's Junior High. TEA had their intruder audit on March 4th with Miss Lucerio off campus that day. Mr. Lewis and the rest of the administrative staff did a great job and they passed their intruder audit with flying colors. Also, we are uh required to submit this time of year our our our grant and guidance summary through TEA grant uh security security grant and guidance summary that has been submitted um through Sentinel. That's done. Um so the item that we need to talk about and I'm

068just bringing this to you tonight as just as a report information item is we need to talk about transportation radios. Um, two years ago, I came to you and told you that we were having issues. I got a bid through Bearcom just to give you an idea. It was roughly $200,000. If you remember, at that time, we decided to get some handheld radios to kind of fill the void because the issue at that time was trans communication with campuses and transportation. Now, we have a full-on uh transportation communication issue. So uh uh the problem is is that we have repeaters here in West Colombia uh on the police tower here and we have repeaters at support center. Those are the two repeaters we have. Graciously WCPD allows us to lose use their tower and we

069use their facilities. The problem is is we have power issues over there that we have no control of. So our our our radios are going out and we don't know it until we're out on the road. If if uh the fix is easy, uh meaning you just go over there, you got to unplug it for 10 seconds, plug it back in, and it'll come back online. The problem is nobody knows it's out until it's out. And so we have communication problems in our far corners of our district. On top of that, it's analog. Uh those that system was bought 2008, 2009. Uh so we're going on close to 15 years. So it's time to get them replaced. The problem is when we had Bearcom come out, their quote was to put four different uh repeaters

070throughout the district for coverage. The problem is is if we put we're still dealing with the same issue. So, what we've looked into is a cellular option. Um something where uh uh we're not depending on on an issue like we are over here. Uh basically, it runs off of uh just like a cell phone. So, I'll let Josh is the techni the technology guy. So, I'll let him kind of talk about that a little bit. They look like a standard radio. They just operate off of LTE towers. So, what happens if they use all cell towers? So, they're you're not just pointing to say T-Mobile or Verizon. So, if if it's on a T-Mobile tower and that tower goes down, it'll then point to a Verizon tower. So, anywhere you are, these will work. You're

071not limited to the repeaters in the range. So, but that I really recommend going to that because what we have now is we have a data connection going to one of the repeaters at support center and then there's a data connection at the police station here. The one at the police station isn't our network. So, we have to open up our network to then point over there and that's a cyber security risk. Now, we do have it locked down, but we we're constantly getting hits on it. You know, it could take one person getting through that. So, it's my recommendation to move to LTE because the cyber security issues. Talk about the cost. Cost you're looking it's it's much like a cell phone. Uh you know, back in the day where you could do a

072two-year contract, you get the phone for free. They have a six-year six-year contract option and they give you the devices for free. And then you're looking at uh let's see you're looking at 1,200 probably a little over 1,200 a month. Pay around 14,500 a month for the cost of those equates to a year. 50 something. 50. We do 50. We're looking at about $1,500. Sorry. Radios. 50 radios. Yeah. That includes that includes campuses, too. James radios are separate. They're on a whole separate. We'll have them in all buses and then each campus. So, how many analog analog radios do we have right now? Around around 50. Around 50. We have 38 transportation on the ones we have spread out around the campuses that our campuses use. And of course, you get you get more features

073with this where you can, you know, you can reach someone directly instead of, you know, if you're trying to communicate with someone here in WC, it's not going to everybody. It just you have more visibility, too. If a radio is down, you get notified. And whereas on analog, you're just you're basically blind at that point. And the the month is 18, it's 1,500 a month. 18 18,000 145 at 50 units. 145 which comes out to about what? 72,000 for that ain't right. 72 about 78,000. Wait, you're saying it's 1,500 a month? 1,500 times 12 is 18,000, right? 18,000. Yeah. Sorry. Were you the math guy? No, I was. I'm no longer five years. Was that Arkansas? Is that Arkansas Matthew trying to do? Hey, get with him on the budget. We got plenty of money.

074Now he's spending too much. 17. Is that Is that fixed for six years or does it have a CPI each year as it goes? It's fixed for six years. Yeah, it's it What happens if a phone breaks? They they warranty it. Includes sixyear warranty. And actually those radios are half the price of the like the radios that y'all bought for the campuses a couple years ago. Those were $950 a pop. These are $3.99. Oh, what we going to do with the existing system? I would imagine that there would be some people that would want to want I imagine we I know we can get rid of the radios. The the existing system, the repeaters. I don't know what I'm I'm talking about the radios. The radios. I'm sure chief and and they know people that

075would want those radios. What uh cuz the repeaters themselves are very expensive. Right. Right. We put four repeaters in. I I can't remember it. Almost it was 25 for for Bearecom. It was basically $25,000 per location. That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah. and then another $50,000 for the actual radios and then um various other little things involved. We know any other campuses or any other districts around that's gone this way yet? Not locally, but not I haven't reached out. What what company is this that's doing this? Uh Nexcom next is the company. Can you call them and ask them if they'll give us a couple of trials so we can put on buses and we go to the mouth and everything else and be sure how they work in our territory? They did offer to

076do that. Yeah. So, yeah. So, tonight's report was to give you that information. Do you want us to move forward and bring you information? Because we're going to have to do one or the other. Right. So, that's I can I can get Bearcom back out here to give us another quote. If they don't have an option like that, I don't see I don't see doing it. I mean, so Josh, you 15,000 of sick, that's 90 grand. You're talking 200. I mean, that that's to me a no-brainer not to go the other route. And then if that one breaks, I mean, I'm sure there's some warranty, but you know, now granted that if you if you bought your own system, it probably would last you 15 years and you're going to do that twice. So you

077look at So I mean, we could get another 15 years. It would be You're still analog. Yeah. So Oh, the company that was going to give us analog when we bid it before that was analog. It was I'm sorry. It was digital, but it's set up the same way. Yeah. It's a repeater tower repeater repeater. But it's digital. Yes. Which is different. Yeah. The digital is a little better signal. Yeah. And there's other bell bells and whistles that go with you. You ought to you ought to get a price from and and ask or ask what the expected life of their system is. I mean, because if if we we're looking at 12 years here, what's 12 years going to cost if we have it, right? you know because digital I mean I don't see

078the radios changing in the next 20 years you have digital is going to last for a long or the technology will be there for a long time I would think so if you're looking at 180 over 12 years there what is that cost you talking you were talking about it's going to go up after six years on this one too they're not gonna stay for 12 years you were talking about having open access Right. Yeah. You and I had one time had talked about being able to look at the number of hits that were blocking. Yeah. And you what was I I can't remember the number, but like over a 100 thousand of of hits, you know, constant. But if it went this way, that'd be our own equipment, not the there. So you could

079you secure that system, right? That system is secured by the the network. Yeah. The LT network. Yeah. Cell of your data. that that the digital the bear digital. It depends. Yeah, we have to we might have a conversation where we can see if we can move it to one of our light poles at bricks instead of using the tower. But the problem there is put the repeater within our network then great. The issue now is we're having to open the network to ping the one at the PD here. Right. I had that. Well, the question is going to be where do what do we have to have height and all that other kind of stuff, right? Access. Okay, it's worth your conversation. Yeah, I can say we we want a secure system. We don't want

080it open like that one. What's our options here at CBISD? You know, we're looking at this for next year. What is our time? Yeah, next year. I mean, well, what here, we're just bringing it forward because we have we've had a couple of situations this year where there are buses are on the road and they don't know that the that the radios are not working until they already got kids on the bus. So, it's communication. So, we're just being transparent. There's a problem. How soon you want us to fix it? It's a safety issue. It's not something you can put in the police department that notifies you if there's a power outage. No, because the analog system, they just don't have any there's no way to be notified on it. Uh what we have to

081do, we just drive over to the PD. Typically I'll call chief, hey, can you let me in the PD? We'll go over there and just reboot it because sometimes their internet will drop over there and that that usually is the issue. That won't be an issue with this new system. Like your cell phone. So it's they're maintaining a network nationwide. I guess if we do the digital system, same thing. If if our internet went down for, you know, whatever reason, a storm hit, your internet does not go down. Don't be saying that. See, so don't be saying that. So this is something extra other than that other security we talking about, you know, putting on cell phone and stuff when that about a couple months ago. Oh, yeah. So that that's coming next. You talk

082about bad. That's security in the buildings and stuff. Yes, that's different. This is radio. So, I'll reach out to Mayor Con. I mean, look at options. You bring something that's security. Oh, and chief's uh chief, you got anything uh other than what's in in your packet? Chief's report is in your packet. All right, instructional report. All right, so tonight's instructional report is going to center on dual credit. If you look in your maroon folder, u I've given I gave this information to you earlier. It's a little handout from uh Brassesport College. And what it does is it says Columbia High School fall council reports 2024. uh has a lot of information in it. The the what I want to point out to you, if you'll turn to the very last page on the very back,

083what this is is a is a is a a kind of a graph of the it's duplicated headcount, meaning that's the total number of kids by classes. So, if one kid's taken two classes, it counts twice. Um, so you can see if you find Columbia High School graph, you can see that over the past couple of years, uh, in the, uh, in the fall semester of, let's just say 20, uh, 2020, we had 100 kids enrolled in dual credit. And you can see this past fall semester, we had 163 or 163 different classes being taken. All right. Now, what I want you to know is you don't have the previous history there because it doesn't give you that many years. But we're back to where we used to be. Okay? Before CO, before CO, we're

084back to where we used to be. But also remember during that time, right, before CO, we started paying right tuition, right? Then we had to change right the the funding model for dual credit for dual credits changed where kids that uh we still pay but if a kid meets the fast qualifications the state picking it up through Bradesport college right uh so that's the first thing I wanted you to see the next thing if you'll turn but even then if if Bradport college picked it up the the course is still counted in this right yes okay oh yeah so the next thing I want you to do turn back to page seven page seven and One of the things we told you a couple years ago is we want to talk we were going to

085we were taking barriers away from our kids, right? What are our barriers? And our barriers were always having to bust them, getting locked in. Uh, one of the things that you'll see is that we teach a lot of different classes. We we we provide opportunities for kids to take the classes they want. And when that happens, sometimes there's a log jam. And so on the dual credit side by going to the online format, right, we've changed the ball game for our kids. We're the only school in the area that does dual credit that way. Nobody else does it this way, right? And so when when I meet with the and we meet with the college, we're kind of their test case scenario. And quite honestly, our success rate being 100% online, our success rate is

086above the other districts. Right now, looking at page seven and eight, I don't know if you remember back in, let's just go back 15 years ago, looked at Bill credit. I don't know if you you remember looking at the classes our kids could take, right? Count the classes. There's 43 classes over the last year and a half. There are 43 cl 43 different classes dual credit that our kids at Columbia High School have taken. There's not a school in the area that has anything better than that as far as opportunities. If you look, you can go look like this. Uh uh I don't know. Let's let me just find a class. Um math 1332 quantitative quantitative reasoning one kid. What is that? I don't know. going to go page very bottom. I know, but what

087is it? Rocket science. Yeah, rocket science. There you go. My big bang. But then you go and then if you turn over, you come to back on page eight, you can see that. And so what I'm telling you is that we've changed the ball game on Bill credit, okay? By by looking and when we said what are our barriers, right? And we've looked at the our our uh our our our racial groups taking classes. We've looking at is poverty a problem? Uh what are the barriers? And so quite honestly, we've taken every barrier away that we can directly control. There's not another one left. And so tonight I want to talk to you about a plan that I have gotten approved through the president of Brassesport College about to being a again a a practice

088area for the future. Okay. The gatekeeper course for kids get well the first of all the biggest thing we have at Columbia High School getting into dual credit is is the TSI. All right. that TSI test that you got to make there to take learning frameworks which is the gate the first class that any kid takes to take learning frameworks learning frameworks is not an English class not a math class it's a how to be successful class okay I want to take that class and I want to make it much like we talked about years ago financial literacy I want to make that a freshman requirement at Columbia High School in the future but can't just automatically do it. So the the test case scenario is is that we have a meeting with the honors

089kids in 8th grade and we tell them we want you're next year you're going to be enrolled in learning frameworks at Columbia High School, right? We're going to start it out as dual credit. If one of them, let's just say, decides they don't want to take dual credit, they're still going to be in the class, but it's not going to be dual credit, if that makes sense. Okay? And we're going to be able to do this and get kids into the college environment. Again, they don't have to pass TSI to take learning frameworks. Again, we would pay for it if they take dual credit, right? It would be taught by a Columbia High School staff member that we have that can get uh uh certified by Brazesport College to teach this class. So, as a

090freshman, it would be this would be an onampus face-to-face at Columbia High School because the way we see it, it's the same class about how to be a good student regardless of whether they're at Columbia High School or whether it's a Brass College class. Right? So, what we want to do is just for this freshman group like that, we want to turn it. Now, the idea would be is that if we can do it with this group, which we think would be successful. Here, here's the other thing. Some of these kids right now are are going to take are going to register and take dual uh learning frameworks this summer. We don't pay for it until they're a Columbia High School student. Yeah. Eighth graders taking it before they get here. Before they get here,

091they take learning frameworks in the summer. All right. So, there's a lot of reasons to see if this would work. The idea if it's successful and we can work it with the college that it becomes something that every freshman does, right? This is nothing different than than those that have a a a college ready uh prep high school, right? Apparently, you go to this school because as a freshman, you take these dual credit courses, right? This would be nothing other than that. But the idea is to have a safety net because we don't want to put kids in a situation where they get an F on their transcript. You know, that's not what we're about. The deal would be right. We have the safety net because it's on our campus. It's our teacher teaching it

092that the college is is supervising and we can make that work and we have a safety net for our kids. Right? If they drop out of dual credit, they're still in a learning framework class. It's still a Columbia high school class. So, in a nutshell, that's the plan. But the plan would be for this to grow eventually to where every student takes it as a freshman requirement at Columbia High School. Right, Mr. Kenny? We've looked at our stats. Again, from what we had six years ago, what we have today, we have us paying for the tuition hasn't changed that number, right? Because it's given it. We have to get them into the taste, right? Because even though we're saying you can get into dual credit and we're paying for it, somebody's still back over here

093saying, "Yeah, and year three and four, we got to pay for it." We need to get them a taste of it, right? And so that was our idea of of trying to that's the last thing that we can get into and that we can do. Again, the idea would be that if if y'all to just give us a head that nothing you have, we already have everything on the books to do this right now. We want to do it as an option. Our idea was if you're if you're okay with it that we would meet with the junior high, we would meet with the parents and have the and walk them through this process and do it as an optin for next fall. You're talking right now just with the honors kids. Just with the

094honors kids as an optin and we can do that. Now I'm tell this cost us no money other than what we pay for dual credit. Doesn't cost us a teacher because we've always we've already figured this out. I don't have to hire anybody to do this. It's not an ad to the budget other than what we pay for. How much do you think that cost is for the dual credit? It's going to depend on the kids say if 50% of the kids are fast kids, they're free and we're paying 150 a pop for the other kids. So, if we've got 65 honors kids coming up, I don't even want to try to do the mental math because but you can see it's not going to be the data you're seeing here. 50 currently 57% of

095our dual credit population is is economically I I see our enrollment numbers going down simply because the junior and senior classes are or the the sophomore and incoming freshman are a lot smaller than the senior in the junior class. Well, several years ago whenever we went the state changed the graduation and we went to these plans and we did others on it. The big talk back then that I remember was you know there's only x amount there's only a few electives that a kid can take because of the graduation and the entitlements or whatever you call the enhancements that's on endorsements. How does this affect a child like that? We were worried that some people wouldn't be if you mandate it to them, then it's it's was taken elective out away from somebody for the

096rest of their four years. Count as it would it count as one of the five electives they need. That's what I'm saying. But it's you're taken away. If you're making mandatory, now they got four. And when we had kids that was playing sports or bandware, it was hard to get those in there because those weren't four courses. When they're when they're freshman, they're going to have room. they're going to have it because regardless right now as all the freshman kids they're sitting in a class eight periods a day when they become sophomores if they want to be dual credit we give them opportunity to have a quote dual credit period so they're sitting in seven classes and then when they become juniors and seniors when the classes become a little bit more rigorous they're taking

097when they're taking the other dual credits as sophomores those qualify for their graduation plan this isn't necessarily graduating it will it's not so you're going to increase the number of hours that's needed for the No, it's just it's just an elective. That's what I say, but you're forcing them to take elective on because because we're online because after they leave and they're and kids are online, it they could take four dual credit classes online and not not lose any of their slots during the day. So, the option to still take the classes in the days there. So, theoretically, they could take 10 10 classes a day is what you're saying. Correct. We have we have seniors right now that are in four dual credit classes. And so that's and that's what I was gonna what

098I was going to tell you is that kind of where we're going is you got to take everything those of you that have been around for a while, you got to take everything you learned about dual credit and unplug it because it's not one for one anymore, right? We can make this work in a shell game. But the idea is look at our success rates and getting more kids. And you know, we've looked at, so this goes all the way back to the coming out of COVID, the kids that left and and and went to Cornerstone and got, you know, we go back and look at that. Are we going to do anything about it, right? What are we going to do about it? This is a plan to try to work and do something

099about it. Will you only offer this to freshmen? No, we offer it. So once they get into dual credit, it's it's it's online. Sophomores and juniors and seniors. I mean this they would still this specific thing I'm talking about would be only freshman and it would be face to face cohort. Yeah. Now it's a it's a half semester class, right? And so now let's do they all have you got let's just say you got these 20 in this class, these 20, right? It's semester you change. And so I've talked to the class what are we going to do on the back? Right? because there's other there's other classes that kids could take that would count later. As an example, PE, right? So, once they come to high school, they got to have a PE credit,

100right? Doesn't help the athlete, but the kid that's not an athlete. The college would work for us to offer PE on the back half, right? You don't see PE on this. The college doesn't do it. But the college has guaranteed us that if we can find an instructor to get certified and teach it on our campus that they will put it in their system and offer it only to us. So we got a chance to grow. So a kid could come out right. We've given them a taste of learning frameworks and PE learning frameworks and art appreciation right learning frameworks. Maybe after they take learning frameworks they want to get into math. I I the options are there now is what we're saying is that the college is willing to be a test case scenario

101on us to see if this will work. And you're saying this is homework and I will tell you face to face freshman is face to face once they're juniors sophomores juniors they could be online at that point and Mr. Champagne to answer your question 75% of those honors kids and maybe a little bit higher are going to end up taking that learning frameworks course anyway. I don't have a problem with honors kids because they're probably going to I guess where where I'm going now is is if this is successful, you make every kid take this as a requirement because we only have x amount of kids that go to college. When we look at our our SATs or whatever scores, it's very low. Now, granted, we don't know because they don't all report whatever, but

102we we have a huge amount of kids that's in our CT programs. and to force them to take a college class which granted some of those needed to take welding or whatever that that says that to that you know I don't understand the correlation between someone taking a learning framework so they go to college and them dropping out to go to cornerstone because they're getting a GED that one I don't understand that concept the question is about are we teaching how are we teaching them to be a good student right what skills do you need right that's what learning frameworks is about right yeah organization scheduling time management It's it's skills needed. It's not it's skills needed to be successful in the classroom, but you could argue at the same times it's skills needed that

103that worker at the plant's going to need to be successful out there. Um it's kind of it's very similar to the uh the junior high course, the uh the team leadership type. That's that's what they learned. So if they take learning frameworks, do they still have to take that other test to get into dual credit? So, the the new rule is is you you you can take up to 15 hours of dual credit now without having passed the TSI. So, the problem is is we have a lot of kids that are at that point. So, you're going to have to sit down with a counselor instead of just taking class after class after class if you don't ever pass the TSI. You're going to, you know, you're going to take English at the end because

104what classes do you want to transfer or you want to have credits? That's the conversation. You got to schedule it appropriately. But at the same time, now you have a scheduled time slot where you can have TSI conversations and we've got TSI support programs that we could administer in that classroom because now you're having a class where you're meeting with these kids every single day as freshmen. Whereas sophomores, juniors, and seniors taking that class, they don't even start that class till two weeks after school starts. And then they get out of that class two weeks before the semester ends. and they sit there and basically don't do much of anything. But you've got a structured environment, these freshman kids, that the ones that possibly are struggling with TSI, we've got a we've got programs that

105we can do to help them be successful in passing TI. So, it also serves as a support to help those kids if they want to pass TSI. But if they want to go vote route, they don't have to worry about it period. So, they don't TSI is unless they want to go catalyst because that's an academic. Yeah. again is there's a degree attached to it. We said the goal is to try to get it there. Doesn't mean we'll get there that it becomes something. But the idea is that could we eventually make this a freshman requirement. So for next year when you when you talk to eighth grade honors, you're going to get explain this. I guess have a parent interview with them. Correct. And explain the process of it. And if a parent says

106I don't want it, then we're not going to force them next year. Just an optin. I want to see if we can create see how many people we So what's the minimum that's would make it successful to have that class one? No, we're not going to put a teacher in there for one person. Again, I mean I I I wouldn't advise us putting in I mean if you don't have a me I mean 15 or something out I mean how many honored kids are in junior high but you know well when going on memory learning frameworks has always been in the curriculum but it's been offered later in their uh high school career. Now you're just bringing it in earlier. Usually learning frameworks, it's an elective. Historically, learning frameworks was offered the the spring of

107their 10th grade year because they couldn't take it before. There was rules back then that wouldn't allow them to take it until that time. But a few years ago, legislators changed everything and a kid can take as long as they meet requirements, they can they can take the test going into their ninth grade year. Take what test? TSI test. But now they've you don't need TSI to take that anymore. So okay, the rules have changed. So we're adapting. We're talking different things. Going back to the question is is if a kid is successful in 15 hours, if a kid leaves Columbia High School with 15 hours and goes to Brazport College, they don't have to take CSI to meaning we may have kids that take learning frameworks as a freshman, never take another college class

108again, but the goal would be to get them to Brazport College because they've already started and have a transcript after they graduated. So, this is a multi, you know, and if they have those 15 hours, if they go to grad and they're working on a a certification in welding or or HVAC, they still have those minimum classes out of the way that they can focus on the certification classes. I mean, it's it's I think it's worth a try next year to see, but it helps us on the accountability, but I I wouldn't say one person. I I think you should come up with some minimum 15, whatever that number is. taken we've taken something out and kind of and looked at the schedule. We could make it happen with one. It wouldn't hurt anything is

109what what I'm saying. I would like to see if it if you should be able to meet it. I mean, we have plenty of honors kids over there. You should be able to meet it. But if if you don't meet it, maybe you open it up to the the next open it up and say, "Hey, if you're interested, this is what we're offering. We just like to begin it. It's a good product for next year." And so how how would you do you would you would try to get all the eighth graders in the fall semester and then learning frameworks on a freshman bases wouldn't be taught in the spring. A different course would be going the spring side. Let's just say you had 40 sign up and we want to do a class of

11020. We could do 20 learning frameworks and 20 something else and then it's semester they swap. We would just That's what you're talking about the swap. That's where we just have to figure out what it was. Right. If it's if it's just 20 we do them all learning frameworks and then we figure out some would be put something on the back half something that they choose but now and now you've got a built-in study session study class study hall you know that's called study dual credit class but have you're in art appreciation he's in humanities and that but you've got a teacher monitoring him and supporting them and helping them with their work so they could end if you had a minimum amount you wouldn't only have it in the fall they could you have

111a large number you'd have both semesters okay they could end the their year as freshman with six college I'm going to say Leah I think our number is like 58 58 or 60 would be the that first target of kids we would be looking at. And you would think quite a few of going to take. I would hope every one of them when we sit down. Yeah. That we would say look this this doesn't hurt coming up with two or three credits from the junior high already. So they've got three elective. That's why I was wondering how many kids are going to take it and how many's going to take it in the summer anyways. You know, it doesn't benefit them to take it in the summer. I learned that with my child. It doesn't

112benefit them to take it in the summer. Uh well, because number one, we can't pay for it. Number two, it doesn't help them qualify as a CCMR student because they're not enrolled in high school yet. They're in that limbo land in between. So, I would venture to say that most eighth graders, and honored grad probably anticipate going to college at that early stage. I mean, they may change at junior year and say, "I don't want to go to college." I think they're still under the umbrella of that that's their future. The question I have on this report is on page seven and eight. When I look down at the bottom of the page seven, there's 257 in 2083. Is that the amount of people that took a class? No, it's when you see duplicated headcount

113means every time every time a kid takes a class it counts. So if one kid takes three, it counts as three. I understand. That's that's the number of hours that was taken or that's the number of individual seats taken in class. Seats in the bus. So why doesn't 23 and 24 match on the back side? Because that's the same thing, isn't it? Well, that's that should be in the unduplicated count. That should be the number. It says duplicated headc count up on the top. That should be that should be the number of students. This should be the number of classes that are enrolled. Total classes. So in other words, what they're saying is you got 163 students enrolled in in dual credit taking up 283 sections. Okay, that's what that when I see duplicated headcount,

114but courses course. Okay, those are head. Okay, that's okay. I was confused on that. Okay, I had some questions. Our goal for this course is it still required It's required for dual credit. Yes, you have to take that to take anything else at the college other than other than trade classes. Okay. And so the number we're hoping to get, we're talking about honor students. So learning framework, I've never heard anything good about it. I think in theory it's a great thing. I think with a teacher it would be really good. I think it's the independent that's creates it to not be our goal and who what we've looked at that is the key. Yeah, the teacher is going to make all the difference from doing it online. Well, that's just like anything, any class, the

115teacher is going to make the difference. I will tell you, my kid, it benefited. My kid just gave a speech at the college and it was basically about how learning framework set her up for success. Because she had a good teacher, right? Yeah. And uh that's what we hope. Agree. It's where we want to go with And that's why we said that's why PE this program needs to be face to face because we control the teacher. And that's exactly what we're saying by this. We think we have to have that person if they wait till sophomore year is online. Correct. So just for clarification, we're we're gonna offer it to anybody or we're going to turn the honors class right now. So are they not the kids who already know how to be a good

116student? They're already a good student. So they got to have it anyway to go to college. They have to they have to they already have to have they're going to take it anyway so it doesn't get in their way is what we're saying. But is part of it making kids better students? Should we not open it up to other kids? That that's where we said we want to go in the future or so it's coming. Yeah, this is this is the trial to see if it should be open to everybody if it should be a freshman requirement like health or financial framework, whatever. Will they have to sacrifice to take that potentially? Potentially. They have 32 opportunities to get 26 credits. So I would argue they don't have to sacrifice. So, we're talking about elective

117how many again class in high school. The only thing that they would it would would cause a problem with them. So, you take a freshman, they're in four, they got to take money matters now, they got to take Spanish, they got to take BIM, but that's three over four years. You could take eight periods a day. So, you have your core 16 and you're coming in. You have those three. So, you have eight 19, right? So, you have seven more that you have to get. And this would be one of those seven that you have to get. Is that right? Correct. I always say you got 32 opportunities to get 26 credits. So you have six six empty sections. So if they're in band, that's four more. That's or is that eight more over a

118four-year period? That's just one that's four. That's that's four four elective credits. You got to have five to get your endorsement. Well, you have one counts as a fine art. The other three count as elective. I'm just saying and then to get to 26 or whatever the number when when they become seniors there's a lot of band kids that are in band but it's a it's a no it's a it's a it's a no grade right way same thing in athletics at the end of the day that way they show up for athletics but when the season's over they don't have to come out there anymore right so what we're telling you is that when they're seniors there's a lot of kids not having a full schedule and so yes when you look Yeah. Oh,

119you're getting me away. Yeah, but you had four off periods your senior year. So, theoretically, a senior that has two off periods right now. If they need a class, they can take class. They don't have to have an offer. Correct. Correct. Okay. Yes. And and there's requirements for them to earn the off periods. We don't I understand that, but I mean, if they wanted to take something rather than sit at home, they could take something. Some of them like first of all kids if they want to take athletics in the fall and then get out in the spring when season they'll need it. And will the class still be open to sophomores, juniors, and seniors? Oh, absolutely. That wouldn't change. Just online though, right? That's online though for them. Now remind me. Hey, they can

120they can choose to take it face to face. I send a bus to the college every morning. Yes. I mean, that' be up to them. Okay. So they they already had the opportunity. Yeah. But they go to the college to take it. Not here. Yeah. They come. Who cares? But we've never had tickets. Well, we used to bring them out here. Teachers would come out here. They were college people and not right. Remind me what credits they can get at in 8th grade to bring forward. Principles of a principles of business, principles of education, algebra, PE, foundations, PE, technology, techn so five to six, they could come up with five credits. So I was like then you get into the early graduation scenario. Thank you. Appreciate. So does the board give the blessing for them

121to look at a trial in next year with that? Okay. We we think it's worth, you know, we're dreaming here, but we just want to try, right? Because we we look what are we doing, right? And we've talked about a lot of stuff. We think this is a way to not we're not asking for anything extra to start this. We just want to see if people are interested, right? We get some feedback in December next year. Yeah. Think you'll have feedback after they talk to the parents in eighth grade and see what the parents think about how it went. We should have a pretty good pass rate in that class. You should. So, you know, and the the the key piece here, if you got to remember, they when you're in the online, you follow

122the Brisport College, right? But, you know, they don't go to school as many days we do, but by being a freshman, they're going to be at in school and so in that class. So, what's going to happen is we're going to fill that void with things that are good for them, right? We could talk about, hey, here's how you I'm gonna say it's a checkbook, but we're gonna fill that TSI, college exploration, right? You know, we we keep hearing this, well, we didn't know. We're going to take that excuse away as a freshman. They going to get all that I didn't know. We have a full-time dual credit counselor that can fill those days talking about the the whole experience and we can bring some workforce people in too to talk as well. Yeah. Thank

123y'all very much. That's it for instruction financial reported out to you earlier. I apologize it was in your package issue. Um we're 66% through the year and right now We're about 500,000 less in expenses at the same time last year. So that's a good thing. We're about 2% up in our revenue collection at the same time last year. That's just in general fund. Did we scare people? Are they cooperating? Yes, they are. We good. Friday will be our last day for POS. So, so I don't know if we want to do this later or not, but are we going to get the finance committee back together and you on it? And you probably aren't interested in adding um it looks like they're starting to come out with some templates and a few little things right

124now. So, I think it's appropriate for y'all to start meeting fairly quickly. I know Linda wants to be be me be me be me be me be me be me be me be me be me be me be on it you last year we had three people so we didn't have to post it as a meeting so I think we're looking for two more volunteers that would like to be on the finance committee interesting Jackie and Linda last year we ended up not having one we just all met together include the candidates like them I mean I don't know yet you know hasn't really sit through one of those either I mean I'm not opposed if the board's not to meet as a group and and go over the budget workshop is that's the better

125idea. Special meeting and do that. I have no problem with that if that's the direction the board wants to go. I mean it's pretty tight right now. I'd like think everybody needs to be on board with with the decisions on that and then I would think if after that moving forward we can probably talking about posting it as a special meeting. Yeah. Post that special and if three show up that's fine. If more want to come that's fine too. I don't have problem with that. At least at least until many people are interested. I mean, does everybody want to be here to to I mean I mean if we had start I'd like to attend it till I get off the board just to hear what's going on. So I wasn't going to take a

126spot, but I mean if we have it at 5:30 in the afternoon like you usually do or 5:00 and we post as a meeting whoever shows up fine and whoever doesn't only request is we do it we do it like at 4 5:30 something like that earlier all night long just at least until we start getting a better idea where we're going to be then I don't have a problem with the committee at that point but made some tough decisions at least right now you can start hearing some of the runs and some of the preliminary numbers to give you a good Yeah, we we have not we have not received any type of run. Um I I can tell you what's being talked about and how much I can estimate that would bring to

127us. We do have that. So I can give you that information. I can also sit down and give you information on staffing of what if we need to do this, what could you know, what's a way I I can give you some of those ideas, too, so that you at least have a number, right? So, we could do that, but like like but Jonathan's correct until we have a real run from Mo and Casey or something like that. It's uh because the Senate and the House are just too far away right now, right? The Senate wants to give money, but they want to give money just in teacher salaries, meaning you get no money for anything else and you have to put the money for teacher salaries, but so they give you enough money to

128give teachers this, but not anybody else. Nobody else in the district. there's no money coming, extra money coming. The House has it broke up with the basic aotment and then getting money in different other areas that would allow, right? One of the biggest ones I can tell you and this is on the Senate side too, uh is is a bill that changes the way special education's funded. If that happens, that that will be huge for us, right? which will change the way what special ed funds can be used because right now we don't have enough to fill our bucket and we're having to use other money to fill that bucket and then the bucket could overflow if this happens, right? Um so there are some there are some spots that nobody really understands right now

129how uh how effective those things could be. Um safety uh school safety aotment, they're talking about changing that. Uh right now we get what $10 a campus. They're taking it to $30 a campus and then up in the up in the kid number by 20. That's about a $200,000 hit to us. That's fine because we're having to use other money to fill that bucket, right? And if we fill that bucket with 200, there's two now there's 200 else available for and and the key to all this is what's available for us to use for general stuff, right? think it'd be better. I mean, if the committee that currently Jackie, Linda, I think we ought to have a budget meeting. I think she can go over what we had last year, our budget was or the

130last couple like you did before. I think you can kind of give us a headline of of what what our our our teacher count is over the last two or three years, what our student teacher ratio is. So when you just kind of look at dynamics like that to know what's going on so whenever the money starts or the the profiles start coming out you you have ideas of what pockets may have to be manipulated if they don't give us a whole lot you know if it's a negative uh there's a lot of positive comments coming out I'm still reading that they're still talking about going from to enrollment you know I don't know what but that that may be a late that would probably be a committee type edition rather than the original bill

131filing and stuff like Yeah. U Yeah. I mean, there's a lot I've read a lot of things like you say, they're talking about giving teachers $10,000 a raise and then your basic a lotment staying the same. I mean, no school and state can do that, you know. I mean, it doesn't make sense, you know. And we're just from the phone company industry. Uh I think it's Monday that the Texas Telephone Association is going to lobby on their behalf. I think the schools are just now starting to go and talk to them because there there was nothing really to talk about except what you wanted. Now now there's at least some some ideas of what may be coming and you can give pros and cons of how it's going to how it's going to affect different

132people from that. I think we should try to have something before the end of this month to to just go over last year just general concept because it's it's a refresher that board members need to remember how what's in the budget how the budget's looking at. So we do start looking at numbers they can they can come up to it. Is 4:30 too early for anybody? I mean that's we don't want to keep them up all night trying to do it. Last year we we spent about an hour it seems like didn't we for on a meeting or something like that. You got a day in mind that's good for you. We solve it right now. Or you want Julie just Julie can start an email. Start an email and shoot a date out there.

133You'll do that in the morning. Julie can start. I'm going to work. It don't matter. Only not available this Wednesday afternoon. And you want to do it before the end of the month. So sometime next week, I would suggest just as the preliminary to look at that and 1 of April, you should start getting some kind of numbers coming something from different they should start running all the hypotheticals out there. We think seems like it hasn't in the past. Yeah, that that's I will tell you that's one thing that's different this time. They haven't released anything. No, usually we have something to buy now. So that and that just shows them that that there's so many so many things on the board. They don't have a clue what to do yet. It's different. Scared last

134year because they did so many and then nothing happened. No. Yeah. Do y'all want to do like next Tuesday night? I was going to say if Jackie think like a Thursday would probably be better for Jackie that baseball's on Tuesday. Thursday. Yeah. And then what? Not this coming. No, we have soccer playoff this Thursday. So, we would probably do good next Thursday, I bet. Or you could go Monday the 31st if you wanted to do Monday 31st. Let's do Let's do Thursday. 31st said Hoover can come and Hoover can't. So, Monday the 31st. Is that what we said or I thought the 27th 27. Okay. At 4:30. Okay. Got anything else, Julie? Like that, too. Bond report. Um, everything's good. I The numbers I was going to share with you, I think we're sitting in

135really good position. Um, I think I think it's going to be fantastic. Uh, fantastic project. That's That turned out better than any of us imagined. Did you find out anything on electrical? Uh, so the electrical where we're at right now is we're not going to have to move it. So, in that price that y'all proved was a huge number to remove electrical. So, what's going to happen is is we're going to kind of cage it off. You can imagine the old cages like when you're in junior high athletics. We're going to cage it off and it the cage is actually going to have like a storage area and then the locked area for the electrical. It's going to go to the ceiling. And what we'll do is when we get the lockers and put the

136lockers will actually kind of create the wall around it. And so we're going to save ourselves probably around $200,000 on that project by not having to do that. So just be careful there's enough air flow to get to this. Oh, it's open. Oh, it's okay. Keep the lockers around is what I'm saying. No, the lockers are only seven feet tall. The ceilings. Okay, that's what I'm saying. 15. Okay. Yeah, it's a lot of air flow on the top. Yeah. So, if you So, if you can imagine when we built that, we put in rooftop units and so that whole area has like three rooftop units. You're talking about come down. And so, what's going to happen is we're just going to attach wind sock to each one across that. It's just going to spread air.

137It's like a big open area. So, like in the gym, like we have in the gym is what kind of that that idea that we'll have. But yeah, it's going to be fantastic. I would just like see when we were talking about the bond stuff. We we've approved the roofs tonight. When you look at what Stephen gave us, we know we know we have 5.2 5.3 guaranteed there. We're spending four there. We're going to probably that mean about 750 77 700 for that. Well, no, that's actually in the other. So, that's that's not included. We're going to be talking about a couple other things. That's three or 400,000 tonight. So, you're going to have you're have about a million dollars. I would just suggest we don't in the 6.9 that he's estimating and plus the

138other two. I would wait till we have more hard numbers on that before we go out and make long-term commitments or start spending that just to be safe because and so what's going to happen as we're getting close um so if you remember we got pro we had phase one phase two phase three and so what's happened is as we finished phase one phase two and everything got kind of downloaded into phase three this money was like in the in the contingencies right this money was in the contingency for phase one technically ally we should take that money out and return it to the district. I agree with that. And so that's what I have now working on. So you're exactly right. Over the next few months, their goal is to basically do closeouts and

139take that money off the chart. Right. So as they take that money off the chart, the yellow and green would disappear, but it would show up in the variance. Yes. I I I live with that. Yes. Yes. And so hopefully in the near future that'll happen. And so you're exactly right. Next, let's see. We are the approval and addition of district and campus safety security upgrades to the Columbia High School bond project. Okay. So, um this is is what we talked about last time. Um, in the bond project when we built the school, the first one of the first conversations of building the budget was campus door access controls, security cameras, and so forth, right? And so we put some information out to you, the Gent Marcata. And so Gentech is the system we've been

140using. We put Gentech in the schools back in 2004 when the junior high in West Columbia Elementary opened. that that was the first time that we ever had door access controls where a teacher could swipe in, come in or have security cameras. That was the first time. And so that system is that old, right? And so where we're at right now is we've got what a year and a half. Yeah. So until about August and the new we're on five version 511, 512 comes out August and our appointment as it is right now will no longer be to go to the newer version. So what happens if if you can't update to newer versions, you know, you leave yourself open for security risk, things like that. So So we do need to look at replacing

141all the equipment that we have right now. So we knew this going into the bond project at the high school, right? And so as we were planning with Dramala for the new schools, right? And if you can remember, as soon as that we started because we had to change the parking, we we added cameras at the fieldhouse over the parking and stuff out there as well. When we added all those, Josh with Dramala vetted everything and we changed to Verata, right? And I'll be the f we'll be the first ones to tell you that Dramala didn't want to go with Verata either because because of this, because of that, because of this. And so as we continue to investigate that, right? it come to find out that everything Dramala thought Verata couldn't do it could

142and at the end day it was way cheaper right and then we had more accountability and so when we did that we kind of said okay bata is what we'll do and the idea was to upgrade as we could over the years to the rest of the district is in the bond for the high school edition correct and was that going to change the old portion of the high also the whole high school. So what so what's going to happen is part of the bond project right as part of this much like the key. So the whole campus is getting rekeyed right got a new key system the new but the old is going to get new keys as well. So every key we have you put it away next year we got new ones

143we're going to do the same thing with security cameras and access control at the high school high school we'll vamp it all be new. So now we're looking at what's outside, right? And so I because we did that, I asked Josh, we'll just have our cottage so that we know what we're talking about, have them come do a survey, go to every campus in the support buildings and match what we have and tell us what it would cost us to do that. Right? And so that's something we've looked at. All right. Now, as we've talked, you know, Josh is here to tell you of of what happens with Verata. I mean, it it brings a whole new realm. I've kind of told you some, you know, the the principles now. They have the app on

144their phones. They can look at their vid their security cameras and stuff, but the only time they can see it is when they're in the CBISD Wi-Fi. Now, they would actually be able to have the access at home because it's under clouds, right? This is something we talked about last year, moving our servers over to cloud. So, this would put our security system, which is one of our biggest servers in the cloud. And that will that'll save us yearly as far as paying for server. We pay yearly for a gent subscription, which is around 5,000 per year. So, we'll save that. We'll save the server cost. Now, another thing that Ricotta does is our guest checkin, which we use Raptor right now. Ricotta includes that in their package. So we'll save an additional 8,000 on

145that. So you're looking at roughly 30,000 per year saving. If you do that, you know, the 10-year contract that we'd be going with. Is that your math or is that Miller's math? I want to find [Music] So over two years, you know, that's $300,000. And to purchase the equipment through Ricotta, that's we're looking at 268,000. And that they're covered for a full 10 years. So if a camera stops working, the access controller stops working, it's warranted for a full 10 years and they'll replace it for us. And one big benefit about this system is very easy to use. uh even for us on the tech side, we can uh set up cameras, set up the access controls all ourselves. Whereas right now we have to call out datavox to come out and configure to work

146with gene. We can cut that out and that would also save us money because we do spend you know around 5 to 6,000 per year on maintenance just just for them to come out and fix you know a few cameras, a few doors here and there. So whenever we was going through the bond process and we was getting at looking at security for the high school, Dramala put that out for bids and got bids for that. Well, Dramala Yeah. Dramala goes through the process. Yes. Yeah. So I mean you had Gintech, you had Maricotta, you had whoever. So we went through a a vetting process to come up with the best price best engineers were involved in the process as well. Okay. I just want to be sure that we we looked at, you know,

147the bid process too. I mean, this is a large dollar amount. I want to be sure that we're just not right saying because I don't know how to pair this unless we're comparing some bad process as it so [Music] you Mr. Galilee last Friday, the Friday before you you sent out this which Linda made a comment on Gentech to Vicotta. This is the savings from the servers and stuff like that. server, you the savings for server, the yearly subscription cost, and then the savings for moving from Raptor over to get and then it also included costs for maintenance that we have to pay for them to come out and configure new new cameras and things like that. And so we're currently paying, you know, It show it shows savings of between 23 to 29,000 but

148we still will have a recurring cost each year but it's going to be 23,000 less than what we have right now. There will be no recurring cost whenever you whenever you get whenever you purchase forcado equipment because they manufacture the equipment. That that's all you're paying for. Just the upfront cost of this just the upfront cost, right? Okay. Because we're already paying for the cloud server, right? Okay. Yeah. The cloud service that you log into view the cameras and everything that's included also. Okay. The the way Bricatas works is since they they make their own cameras, they make their own door. You can kind of it's a lot like Apple. They make all their product. That's where they make that's where they make their money off their product, not their not paying them a yearly

149service. So basically, we're saving the 23 or 24,000 annuals. That won't be in the budget anymore. That won't be in the budget. And then the cost of the stuff, we're looking at using bond funds to pay for that. Right. So it's not come out of general funds or whatever on that. Okay. And this was just a breakout of what's actually being bought, right? That's the breakout for each schools and the number of items we need for whatever. We didn't add any additional. It's just swapping what we have for the vera. If if additionals want to be added, that's something we can look at. Okay. So, we're looking at 268 for hardware and then 68 for install. Install. Josh said technology can do the install. The only problem is that takes them away from something else

150to do that. How much range though? 69. We can save save everyone $68,000 installing it ourselves, but it will, you know, pull us away. Does it affect their warranty if we install it ourselves? Does it take your whole team to install it? No, it's just going to be three of us that do it. How many do you So, one of the one of the things that I that I talked to Josh and we have done this in the past, right? Rather than those guys working on a Monday while we're in school doing that, we could work for them to make extra money after hours and set up a schedule. wouldn't cost the 68, wouldn't cost the zero, but it could save us money and actually help them make a little bit more money. So, we

151could come up with a plan like that. I know they they would love to do that. How long would it take y'all to install it? I would say maybe a good three days. Three days. Eight hour days. Yeah. Over the whole campus. 79 cameras, 49 indoor cameras, 45 door lock. They're all plug and play, huh? Yeah, because it's all plug. That's That's one thing about We already have the data cable. All All you have to do is change the device. I don't have to configure anything. I scan a QR code, it uploads it to the system, plug it up, go what would take the longest is just, you know, installing badge reader because you have to screw that into the wall. But this be a summer project. We'd want to, you know, start in June

152if possible. Yeah. So, one of the things like as an example, we work four day weeks in the summer. They could work Friday, Saturday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. One weekend or something like that. Friday's a couple weeks. You have an issue with that, Linda? Excuse me. It's Julie. Julie, you're friends. I I was looking at you, but I was asking her because I scared she's gonna throw something. So, who did you really want to this time? I mean, I mean, if they work, does that cause a problem with overtime or anything like that? I mean, we have to pay it or whatever, but is that an issue or anything like that? It's not going to total $68,000. Yeah, because we're paying for like their truck to come down here. I haven't figured it. I didn't know.

153I No, I'm not worried about dollars. I mean, it's not an issue for payroll or that or any of that kind of stuff in a in a summer project. We'll have to pay them time and a half, but yeah, it's just them turning in their time in this panel. Okay. And we will be able to pay that portion out of bond proceeds for that. I don't know. That's that's a good question. That's a good question because we don't want it coming out of your budget. It needs to come out of fun. So, we need to be sure. 24,000. He just saved that out of the budget. Huh? 24,000. He just saved out. What? Save that till next year. Let's do what you like. But I tell you what, so we but we could always you

154could approve the cost of the security cameras and security, but and we could and not do the install and we could just bet that, right? Because the install is the easy part, getting everything ordered and getting things scheduled to start. There may be somebody else we could do that would give us a bid that do its own safety 15 the 10ear license is your is your warranty yeah they license the 10ear license on the access control so I did so you the email we're talking about I did forward it to Josh and this is why we sent to try to answer as many questions we could up front so Josh did contact right and so why don't you tell them some information reach out to waypoint the the company that provided the quotes and asked

155them if there's anyone in our area who's also swapped to product ricotta is something I've been researching since 2021 I actually went to Austin and went to a convention and learned everything I could about ricotta but they Waypoint got back to me and our county actually is swapping over to Vicotta. The new courthouse in Angleton, the new courthouse in Angleton has Vicotta and they're looking at, you know, as budget allows to start swapping out all their their security systemata. Bay City also is using Vicata. So it it is something that a lot of people are going to just because the ease of it so much easier the IT staff to manage and you don't have to deal with firewall rules and things like that and it's in the cloud so it's a lot easier. So,

156one of the things that we found out like on the search cameras, we could say between 12:01 and 1:30, somebody with a red shirt and it will search every camera and video for red shirts and pull it up. You can search, you can upload a you can upload a kid's picture and it'll search the video for the pictures. It has really good AI built into it. That's one thing we like about it, too. to download videos. If you need a video really quick, you can do it on your phone. You need select the time, download it, go straight to your phone. And of course, only people that are allowed access will be able to access the app. It's multifactor authentication. So, you have to, you know, you have to type in a security code and

157use your face ID to get into it. So, it is very secure. Cool. Linda, did you have some specific one from your email the other day or I sort of talked to Josh about it to start with the All I did was Google it and it and there was one comment was they they you know stiffed a district for $1.2 million and I was like we can't have that you know and the other thing they said if you if something happens and you don't use them anymore their cameras are bricks they they're of no value to carry forward. So that investment is a zero going forward without this company. You can only use their cameras with their system. Just just a lot like think of it like Apple. That's really their model is you know

158you can't use their chargers for their phone. No button. I mean it's a long-term commitment. And then the service they said that the reps come and go so fast they don't even learn their names anymore and get their phone numbers because their salespeople come. But he said there's a solution for that. Yeah. So he kind of answered my question. We go through waypoint. So we deal directly with waypoint and they deal with So yeah. So what's the life of a camera? I mean I I would say probably you would probably want to replace five, six years maybe. But but I mean that's a good point. That's a good point. I'm just trying to say okay so we've outfit the whole district. But so like if you if we start seeing a camera that looking pretty

159rough, we just follow our warranty on it. It's covered for the full 10 years. So but in 10 years, my point was in 10 years to go back with them. Yeah. You know, no way. We may not get the honeydew right now. What do we do? And that's so that's but that's the issue. So So in 10 years, you would just want to look at go to a different We don't want to go to a different system. Yeah. replacing because you do want to replace your plug and play. So what I'm trying to get at is if if we upgraded all Gentech right now 10 years we'd be doing the same thing, right? Yeah. That that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to get in my mind. Would we be in the same place? The

160answer is yes. So it's kind of like you know 2004 we got all these right but because the line bets it say the same thing lines are already there right so if we went with something else right it's just if you go with g if you go with gent gent is not like ricotta where they make the cameras they provide the software but they outsource the cameras so you have to make that camera you have to code it to talk to the gent system. So, it's not just plug it up and it works. You have to plug it up and then code it to the system. And that and that's where the transition of our is just a lot easier. This plug and play. So, do I understand you put some cameras up around the

161fieldhouse for this? So, right now we have cameras all in the new section and then we have a camera. What does a camera like that cost? We have pricing right here because that will no longer be a usable. Right. Right. So I was just curious. I mean what what did what did one of those cameras about 1,500 bucks their cameras is 700 about 1,200 the 10 years when I sold. Yeah. 1,200 1,200 for theirs. Yeah. 128. And it depends on, you know, if it's an outdoor game. That's the control door controller. You talking about the first item? No. Down item number 11. Yeah. Number 11. 79 cameras. That's just the license. Then you go above it, you got the dome camera. 49 of those and 20. Those average between 711 and 719. So you're looking

162at say two grand for the life of that. So there's not a significant difference on the other. And I'm sure the one you bought is not warrantied for for 10 years either. No, it's probably one year. I want to say if I recall it's two twoyear warranty. If you bought an extended warranty, you'd probably be in the same situation just costwise from that. And I and I will I mean I can reach out to Jim Tech put us out and I I mean at the end of the day we don't have to have a decision tonight, right? Because it's not a it's not we have to do it tonight. I'm not answering my questions and I'm good with I I would just reach out to Bay City if you know somebody over there and say

163see when they got it and see how they like it and see if they had any warranty issues and how that was handled by the company. Yeah, I can do that. you know, I don't know if they use Waypoint as the as the sales rep over there or somebody different, you know, and just get a general consition of what they think of it over there, you know, have the because they're in the same environment as us. I mean, we start talking to someone in Dallas that doesn't have humidity or the the things we have down here, it's going to be different than they're very similar. It gets to those outdoor cameras for sure. Yeah. Just check with them. Yeah, I'll reach out. So, we're thinking this will be done in the summer. The goal would

164be to have it ready to start for starter school. So they would wouldn't be any kids here. They wouldn't have to go. They wouldn't have to come at night, would they? Well, if we could do it then. Yeah, if we can work it out. I was just saying if they do it during the day, there could be other things going on, right? We're going to be in the middle of moving in, moving furniture in, technology setups. Yeah, we do a lot of Yeah. A lot of a lot of cleanup, things like that. I was just saying we can do it. Yeah. If you think you can get it done in three days, probably won't be a problem. And if you want the other company, Yeah. you can't. They're going to come out and program all

165those cameras. They have to do that because it's the way they have their system set up. They have to configure it. Not sure that's going to be it though. That's that's one downfall with having them right now is if the door goes down, you know, we try to troubleshoot the best we can, but we'll have to put in a ticket with them. We're waiting on them. Whereas if we have RCA, we can handle it pretty quickly. Door has to stay open and with chief go stand by the door open. You need to try to see if they'll give us a commitment for some period of time if if something goes wrong. Well, I guess it's warrantied. If a door goes out, it'd be nice to have a spare. So, you go swap it out and

166then send it for RMA or something like that. And I don't know if they'll let us do something like that. Yeah. From that standpoint, see if they let us do that. And I guess they're close to a good sit for 30 days and after 30 days. I mean, I'm not opposed to doing them to be honest with you. Doesn't seem like a bad price. And I know when we look before, we're in similar ballpark. Seemed like we paid about that much 15 years ago when the other system not have the coverage. So, do you want to approve this? problem subject to you getting a satisfactory reference from Bay City. Bay City. I'll reach out down there and we we're just going to approve the the equipment and then we'll you'll look at yours as far

167as the install or however that works on that side over there. We appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. So, can we make a motion? I make a motion that we approve the waypoint quote for the equipment in the amount of 268,53784. Second by Ray all's in favor. Any opposed? Carries. Thank you very much. Josh is the most excited person in the room. It is nice. Thank you for giving us information. So just as an example, when Josh was sitting when we were talking about stuff, we got some other stuff we'll talk about in the future. I said, "Ch, you just told me I'd cut $50,000 out of your budget." Oh. And I said, "And a personnel unit." Draw the line somewhere there. Uh, next, uh, proven instructional material aotment certification survey, including the purchase of Blue

168Bonnet learning instructional materials for 256. So, today's the day. We told you, we've been telling you for about four months. So, today's the day. So basically what this is is your certification that with the bienum of the 25 26 26 27 school year that by using the instructional materials a lot we will buy the thing you're certifying that the things we will buy will teach the Texas essential knowledge and skills right and we're telling you that we would be opting in purchasing the blue bonnet learning curriculum and and you've had a couple of questions and discussions a couple of meetings ago. So with that, Sam, anything else? I think you've included I've included everything that is on the certification for each subject and grade level. So basically, we're talking grade just cover the grades again

169for blue bonnet. Yes. K through nine um math. And so it's got algebra one. Yes. And um K through five the reading. Okay. because they don't offer the reading yet for junior high or high school yet. They're working on So, we would be purchasing what we can, what's available, right? So, with that, we'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. So, on the items, there's three things. The first one, that's a long document. That's the actual certification. Okay. Next is how much we're going to get. Is that right? The 116. That is how much it will cost us to uh purchase the K through five, the K through9 blue. That's what that's Yes. It doesn't tell me what my aotment's going. We have an additional allotment to be able to purchase this which

170is around 225,000. Then that's just for the um uh state's curriculum. And so I guess the 116 is made up on the third one where you had the price list of all the things we're looking at buying. Okay. So yes, my understanding is when we buy this, they're not they're not deducting that from our aotment. So if we got 300,000, this is 116. They would give us the 116 and to refund us back. So we have a full 300 to do what we want to on the other side. technically has three different pots now in the IMTAG or the EMAT purchasing. The top one is our regular bienium that we get. Um how much that is we yet have yet to find out. The next one says it has about $224,000. And then the next

171one's for printing. You get $20 a student if you go with their product per student. Um and it's about 50,000 right now. So that's how much much it says we can spend on the state approved if you do the 40 for each student and then the 20 that's the state approved and then the bianium money is for your that's separate the other and if you don't buy this you you don't get that money right the bianium money no two and three correct you only get that to buy this yeah and the print does not go roll over you spend every any of that for this curriculum um it is only for the state approved curriculum. You can only purchase with those two slots of money with the state approved curriculum. So we need to theoretically

172need to spend all of that on state as well. So if if we have 200 and this is 120, we need to figure out other state stuff to spend the other 80. Yes. Little one, which is what I call the $40 one that actually will roll into the next year. But the $20 slot one doesn't roll every year. So if you don't use it, you lose it. Okay. So we can say if we spend 120 we have 80 for the following. Correct. Correct. Something else may come out on that side. Okay. Four kids. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Any questions or comments? We want to kind of see some details about what's in the instruction. Is there a place to go look for that? Yes. You want me to email you all the information on how to

173find it? Sure. We'll do that. Thank you. Huh? See, it might be it might not be a bad idea to just do some kind of little press release on the web page and put that link on the web page as well. Tomorrow whenever y'all said yay or nay. Yeah. Good. Thank you. I'm curious. Yeah, I know there'll be questions. Just tell me it's the OC scope. They'll be fine. Jesus. Well, we're rolling tonight, aren't we? All right. You want to send that out? It's going out with a bang, y'all. We'll put it on the Friday our Friday. I'll make a motion we approve the certification of provision of instructional materials form. That good enough? Yes. Second, James. James. Thank you, James. All in favor? I. Any opposed? That carries. Next is the um consent. Consent

174agenda. I want to pull number four. Does anybody want to pull approval minutes? Budget amendment donations, certification of unopposed candidates, and approval order cancel election. Approve workday 2526 calendar for 240 personnel. Approve board resol resolution supporting the justice grant for CIS. Hearing nobody, I'll make a motion we approve those five items. Second. Second by Ray. All in favor? I. Any opposed? That carries. Number four is I guess correlated with the young lady that was here tonight. That's correct. And so this is this is to come out of our budget. That's not That's correct. When I first read it, I didn't know what she was doing. So I didn't know if this was a fundraising situation. This is something that we're going to pay for our school because she's going to Correct. When it says travel,

175fly or drive, does that dollar amount up at the top, not include? Well, I can tell it's going to be much cheaper to fly. We don't want to pay the mileage train that that far along. It's going to be cheaper to fly, right? But that amount up there doesn't the $99 $999 does not include her flight. Yeah. What does that all include? Just uh that that's just an estimate, right? That we because anytime we they turn something in, we kind of say, "What are you talking about? What's your plans?" If you approve it, then we would officially get involved and and 999 is just her registration to be able to be there. So and then for lodging and meals at the conference included then it below it it says travel, fly or drive 2200 miles

176round trip. So that price doesn't include the flying. I I have no I can't tell you any idea because we haven't You're right. It doesn't look that way. It depends on which way that goes. Right. So you're probably looking at another 500 a person to fly. Now we're just paying for Mr. Germany and her isn't for two people. Is that right? Because it's got directors. Yeah. We're not saying Yeah. It'll either be given that it's a female. There'll probably be a male and a female staff member go. Okay. And then Okay. Okay. Okay. If the students parents decide to go, they'll pay their own way. We're not correct. So if they fly, they'll also rent a car while they're there. Good. Could be. And then we'll pay for that, too. Whatever. Okay. We'll reimburse their

177cost. I mean, we have I mean, a lot of times you don't see it. We have FFA kids go to national conventions sometimes in North Carolina. Entrepreneurial FA kid go to for Oh, yeah. I have CT that's a different didn't come to us. Yeah, I did. Yeah, it depends on where it is. It's some years we may not go. Some sometimes we may only go to the state convention and not the national convention. Yeah. So, anytime state I approve the state level or overnight state level. Anytime it goes out of state, you guys have the board has to approve it. But there have we have gone to national FFA convention before. Uh we've gone to national student council conventions before. It's been a year few years since we've done that. Couple green herbs. Not green

178hands. What are they called? The got recognized at the national Miss Lambert took him to Indiana. Indian Indianapolis graduated. Yeah. We paid for her. We paid for her. Hey, I just want to be clear. I say I didn't associate this with her until she came to us. I don't know. I make a motion we approve the trip cost for the student and staff. I'll second it. Second by Becky. All in favor? Any opposed? That carries. Anything else for open? Nope. All right. We're going to adjourn to close session pursuant to the Texas Governmental Code, the open meeting act section 551.074 074 to consider the employment of professional personnel.