001All right, we're going to go ahead and call this [clears throat] uh special meeting of the board of trustees to order on May May 5th. My my son always said his birthday was May 4th. >> Well, not always. He's He's a little He's old enough to say it right now, but [laughter] May 4th. Anyway, May 4th, 2026, beginning at 5:00 pm and it's great to have everyone here today. Um, I guess there are no citizen comments. [clears throat] >> Um, and we're going to have a school finance workshop. Dr. Hawkins. >> Okay, y'all. I will walk I want to walk through a 30,000 ft view of school finance this evening. And when I say 30,000 foot view, because I know y'all have things to do, but I know that >> I'm here. >> Um, you
002know, just the template alone, Omar Garcia, which is kind of the godfather of the the revenue template in the state of Texas, used to do a a boot camp of the 3-day session on on just the template. And so, uh, but I want to walk through and progress through, uh, school finance, where we've been, where we are, and where we're going. Uh, with, uh, just the understanding for everybody that in the month of June, July, and August, we will have, uh, multiple board workshops on the budget. uh because um and and I'll kind of show you why, but where where are we today starts from um you know 2024 and 2023 uh both budgets was $6 million deficits. And those budgets, the first one 23 is a $6 million approved budget deficits. 24 was the
003one that that there was a revenue overlap of federal funds that uh showed four more million dollars in there than what was uh but nonetheless that's where we were. Um I also you have a copy of this. Okay, that's the audit and our audited amounts of of money that is that is in uh last year's revenue and so or last year's ending balances, I'm sorry. And so uh that is an important document. And I encourage you to go back and review that, look at that document because, you know, that $6 million um we we took [clears throat] and uh continue to work with until we got it down to uh you know, in fund balance. There was a $6 million set aside for that money. And so we got that down to a $3.3 million
004U amount. the rest of it withdrew money out of fund balance to take care of those reserves. Um so with that uh I believe there is let's see here each of you have a packet here >> thank you And in that packet, y'all, first the first thing that I'll draw your attention to is a document that looked like this. And I emailed you this document, so you've seen it before. Okay? And and I want to walk through this document. Um, now you've got a hard copy of it. And the reason uh in walking through this document is the first thing you see there, the 2025 26 [clears throat] budget. That's the current budget that we're in. And if you look all the way over on the back page there, page four in that final part
005of the column right there, you see $358,661 uh in that column. It's in blue right there, that first column. Yeah, >> that money is uh the uh adopted budget for this school year. That was our our deficit that we had. Uh board leadership, Mr. Gallen, Miss Copeland, Miss Manning, all saw this document when making recommendations for what salvage would be. Okay. And so option two was the one that uh was the grandfather of what the board action was at the last um board meeting. And if you look back on page four, you see there at the bottom 3.31509 million. Okay. And so Cliff has met with departments and talked with departments, uh, compiled their needs assessment, uh, submitted their budgets, [snorts] compiled it into where we were on this date and this time. And this
006document is important from the standpoint of that's that's where we are, okay? Not where we're going to be, but where we are. Uh the other document that I draw your attention to that aligns with that is this document and it's a memorandum from me. Subject is information regarding assignment and update of district [clears throat] fund balance. Okay. And so this document was the memo that was attached to the resolution that you adopted. Okay. And so in in it, it tried to make sure to delineate uh the connection between the audit uh that you received in January and where fund balance set and where expenditures were because expenditures and dates and times do not align because of just a fiscal year. is say 77 or 73 million is sitting in that audit, but yet there was
007monies that was not encumbered yet in the audit like the previously approved repairs to Lee Ledger. There's the number two bullet there. That was another in essence a million dollars that was sitting out there. So, I wanted you to have a clear picture of when this memo was written, which is it's written in March and that stuff you saw in January. And so, and and the audit end date was August 31st. Okay? And so, you have August 31st end date on the um audit. you have a presentation of the audit and then you have March come along and that's when I I brought this forward and I will also direct your attention down to the projected deficit coverage of 3.3 million. Okay. So you you've got a a budget as we know it today that's
008at 3.3 million and you got that fund balance amount here at 3.3 million. Okay. So, I wanted you to see how those items connect across time. Okay. Also in your packet is this document that you had before as well and it is the board goal two. is the capital plan. And you can see in this capital plan on the very back page that there is $75 million of estimates of total cost of repair um that's in this document. And you can see there that our total reserves are 73 million. Okay. So, we got more needs for repair and dreams and hopes than we got money to do those things. And so, we're working through to try to uh bring more money into the into the pole. Uh grant writing has kind of stalled because I've
009been doing other things. Um the the the last page there uh where it has that total. If you look up two bullets above that is the HD Hallstead Elementary and STEM lab and and we kind of label that you know we kind of needing some things to happen there. You know, Hetty Hallstead is a 1964 model campus. And so there are some things on HD Hallstead now becomes the new jewel. And so that that campus is kind of the next in line of elementary schools to uh need some things addressed in it. The cafeteria is too small. There's some structural issues in it. There are some uh just need just like we saw at Fairview as Eddie Hall said. And so within the next 10 years, it's in the next cycle to do something with.
010The [clears throat] deal with that is is there's a $15 million estimate on that, but we've been working to uh put together a grant proposal uh for uh the the Department of War. Uh and and so that proposal though is at about 22 million at this point. And so you can see there that some of these numbers are square footage guesstimates until you start digging into them. And some of them go lower and some of them go higher. But I I wanted to to point that out to you and and get people to uh really draw attention to looking at, you know, some of the things that that we've done um in in this document. Um, you know, there's things in there like the meat lab, uh, that we're trying to design into the high
011school, into that into that bond. We may can and we may not can, but we're trying to maximize and stretch and push monies as far as we can go. And so those those are things that that we're trying to address and and take care of. Uh there's also some roofs in there like u SC Lee $1.2 million crossroads a half a million and Dr. has been working with TASBY and some of that, you know, can possibly be covered under insurance. Um, and and just like our our LED lights u at at the multiple complexes that was damaged in the hail storm. Uh we're trying to get some of them covered uh under insurance. Uh we may, we may not. Uh but at the same time, we're we're knocking on every door and leaving no stone
012unturned. But I I wanted to to walk through those things and show you some of those things and show you where our needs are as far as is a is a funding standpoint. Also in that package is a memorandum from me. It is a professional legal document that I'm presenting to you tonight that basically says, "Hey, uh, we all need to understand exactly where we are with finances and funding right now. If we had to adopt a budget, we'd have a $3.3 million deficit. And the budget is tight. uh those of you who've come by and visited with me. I've showed you the revenue template and there's not a lot of slack in that. So the days of rolling monies into fund balance is over with for the foreseeable future until the funding mechanisms change
013if they change. But that um memorandum is titled fiscal impact of and sustainability of proposed compensation increases. And so I'm laying out for you what some of the districts that you see in the paper have failed to do or on social media they failed to do. There's one district to the south levels that give 10% raises like two years in a row and yet their revenue projections uh could not handle that. And so my recommendation at this time is also [clears throat] located in this document because I want to make sure that everybody and I and I spent time going through this document so that open records request if the the you know newspaper television station wants to read that that's a good recipe for every uh district in the state of Texas. And basically
014what it's saying is is that we still have work to do in the budget. We still have a financial gap to close of that 3.3 million. And so at some point we have to make choices of what what happens. And so the administrative staff is has has been working and will continue to work to bring some recommendations uh to do things differently. Um but at the same time >> anytime when you start uh addressing structure of a budget uh that's not that's not easy because we get used to doing things and we get used to doing things a certain way and so when you have to do things differently then you know people like panic. uh but nonetheless uh we have to uh ensure that we are being fiscally responsible and that's what this document
015lays out and there are things that we're working on [clears throat] but those those five things there of verified reoccurring revenue growth sustainable expenditure reductions multi-year budget projections from demonstrating affordability and preserv preservation of appropriate fund balance levels and the protection of core instructional programs and student services should drive what we do and should lead us to wherever we are. Because at the end of the day, budget, salaries, financing, and all of this mixed up really does not depend on what you want to do. It's what you can do with what you have. Um, and so I think that's [snorts] always important from that standpoint to realize that. So I'm not going to read uh those things to you, but I did want you to walk through um those areas >> real quick. Um option
016two is the $3.3 million deficit without changing any like utilities or anything like that. >> No, utilities has changed. >> Is it changed? I just didn't see that in which function. >> Yeah, this changed here. >> Okay, I was looking for that trying this >> at the same time. >> Yeah, that this this is all estimates of of where we are in here. And so, but like I say, we we we you know, need to work as an administrative staff and bring recommendations to balance the budget because at the end of the day, Mr. Gore has pointed out in in the U uh board meeting about the $25 million of in essence monies uh that was over there because of our bond rating. If you continue to post $6 million or $3 million deficit budgets
017to operate out of, that's >> then in January when the next round of bonds comes eligible to be rated on, we won't get that same bond rating. And conversely, for the next 20 plus years, we will pay a higher rate of bonding and and debt uh back in. So, walking through all of that >> questions. >> So, in regards to the lighting, are you guys still bugging insurance to if they're going to cover because I know you guys are working on that for a few months. Yeah, we we've bugged the we've bugged with folks like bill collectors at this point. I mean, Jimmy's been in contact with them. I've been in contact with them. We've we've had meetings and at this point it reli it lies around they they've brought a engineer in to tell
018us that our lights were all well they were all down and guess what he got paid. they need to be replaced, you know, but that does not excuse the fact that they were working and now if you go to some of the fields or the fields and you look at our our outside lights, they're >> not working. >> They're they're not working in some of the areas. So, and some of those lights, if you replace just one light up there, then you get a different candle foot on the field. And so you get one light burning real bright and then the other ones that are old. And so um but but as I said, it does not excuse the fact that they are they were damaged uh by the by the hail storm, but um
019you know, not not only that, uh Dr. Shook has worked to uh uh with vendors uh to uh get what I think is a real good price. So, we're we're we're setting on needing to do something and um and yet, you know, we don't really know if we're going to get any funding from the insurance on that. So, but we're going to we're going to keep asking and we're going to keep even if you tell us no, we're going to appeal or do whatever we need to do to to try to state our case and argue. Now, um the insurance company and has uh paid us over $8 million in damages and so they they they have paid uh but yet you know you and and there's more that's out there >> uh with furniture
020uh with with other uh damaged items and things like that. So, I'm not saying that they've just totally done us dirty, but the lights has been a sticking point and I get it. It's a $700 plus th,000 expenditure setting out there. But >> yeah, I know the the lights at Lee, you know, when you turn them on, you got to wait for x amount of time for them to warm up, then turn on. There's quite a few lights that just stay warming up or even light ups. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, and it's and it's all across the district, you know. But there's so there's some at Bulldog Stadium. There's some if you come to the softball game the other night, you look up in the in the deal and there's some of those lights that
021are that are not just gone out, but they've been damaged. And if you fly a drone up there, you can see where the hell hit them, you know. So, uh, anyway, >> after the pictures today of the turf over there, >> the track, >> how much more is that going to cost us? >> I I can't tell you. I'm still I'm I'm not I've learned over time that sometimes you don't deal with things at the moment. >> Yeah. >> You you you you step away from it and >> Wow. >> you come back a little bit later to it. But um you know the uh a after the milling the thing that really surprised me is the lack of stone under that foundation. You know I I I had I would have bet quite a
022bit um that there would be limestone in large quantities under that track. But it it explains um some of the some of the things that we saw in the asphalt. you know, the spider webbing of the asphalt on the on the what was the original home side, now is the is the guest side. That thing is spiderweb. Well, it's because it's sitting on clay and that clay is just kind of like floating and so it it's like glass. It breaks and it shatters the asphalt and so it's just sitting there, but it's kind of like moving. So yeah, we we will we [clears throat] will work and try to figure something put together uh that will provide some stability uh for the longevity of that thing. Uh because you don't want to you don't want
023to put a new piece of asphalt down on something that's going to five years from now look exactly like it does. That that's not what you want. >> Okay. first. >> So for some clarification um as far as finances go. >> Sure. >> Um your recommendation um is showing that if we do any type of increase of salary, it will put our district in danger of having to close campuses and completely getting rid of certain positions. Well, closing campuses is a choice and and I think you can see that a lot of people are making that choice. >> Um, and and declining enrollment is the is the precipice of of what happens below that. Um but yeah, no what what I'm saying now is is that we have expended uh over a million dollars in
024salary adjustments to try and address our market discrepancies because I I think the the the uh state of where I could say with s salaries is this is that they didn't just happen >> and and as Miss Manning said in one of the the other board meetings and y'all have to forgive me. We my my brain's kind of running together on some of this, but the the the thing that was stated was is that like in 2024 uh there was a $1,000 longevity stipen that was put out and I think before that there wasn't anything. And then Miss Manning said somewhere along the way that there was a 1% or 2% or something other like that. But >> before I think, right, >> we haven't had a 3% in a long time in the last
025year. And then for to address some of the questions that I've heard um teachers pays not going backwards. People for some reason that >> nobody's going to make less than what they made. >> That's okay. >> Um >> Okay. And then as far as anybody who's below that um >> market that you uh below I think it was 80 is going to be addressed. >> It'll be reviewed >> reviewed >> because like I said you know if >> the market experience >> if they have zero years experience and they're below market and the market is for a person that has 12 years experience then that's >> across all all grades. But if you're 20, you 20 years experience and and the and the market is 12 and you're below the market, then that's you know,
026we've got to put you on a path. Absolutely. >> And it may not be everything this year, but it may be hey over 3 years we may we may bring into that. So >> and that's for every position because there are quite a few employees that have gone from auxiliary to parah or vice versa. Does that change anything or that just stays because there's years of experience? >> It's irrelevant. Uh I mean years experience is wherever they're plugged in on that deal. But u you know the bottom line is you know but you got to understand that if I retire and I come back and work as a parah you know I'm I'm probably not going to be getting the max you know I'm going to be placed somewhere in the salary schedule above the
027market because the market experience would be a certain level but >> um but yeah if you move from auxiliary I don't know why you would move from auxiliary there I mean >> I mean it it I'm sure somebody somebody probably has. >> And then just to address questions that I've heard is, you know, when and if there are people who are concerned, they can always address HR um those types of things. Correct. >> They can reach out to HR um and and ask they are and have. >> Right. No, I just I just would like for it to be out there so that you know people can't say that they've not heard this information. Um >> Right. >> Okay. Thank you. So, so the so the main thing the main goal uh that the leadership
028team looked at was to try and start putting people back to market because the causation of this >> yes >> was was not moving at some point in a in a direction. So when you don't do anything it's like buying buses. Okay. the quickest thing, the easiest thing to cut out of budgets or buses because nobody gets upset. Okay? And and I I had a friend of mine used to tell me, he said, "You can cut budgets by buses and restrooms, but don't cut the GT program." Okay? He says, ' Because if you cut the GT program, >> there'll be a lot of mamas that sets in the audience with signs that you're destroying their kids' lives. But if you cut a bus, you know, there's not a there's not somebody with an emotional attachment
029to a bus. But, you know, the problem is is like when I went to my one of my former districts, there were 25 buses that were greater than 20 years old. And so they had gotten out of cycle with buying buses for several years. And so I mean, you can do the math to buy 25 buses at then $75,000 a pop. They're $150,000 a pop. Now, >> um, you how are you going to do that? And so it it took us >> time. And when I left that district, the oldest bus was seven years old. And you want to cycle those buses out. But I say that to say this is that on that day that problem wasn't created. >> The problem was created over time of not moving the scale. >> And it takes
030time to fix it. >> And it does it take it takes time to >> Yes, sir. >> not moving the scale equitably, right? >> At all. >> No. No. There are go back four years. Our payroll from 2021 to now is almost $15 million than it was in 2020. Right. And yes, it is not this is not it didn't occur last night. >> Sure. >> It has occurred over time. >> Right. But it has been disproportionate [clears throat] throughout that time. >> Right. >> Okay. >> And it it's it's going to be it's got to be addressed. It's got to be I know you are we talked about last year. >> Yeah. we have I mean that's why you've seen our our par pay go from you know 82% to 95% of a market there
031and so it >> where's that at sir >> it's in the tazby portal in there I mean if you look at where we are were last year we were at 1304 [snorts] [clears throat] >> okay this here 1443. So >> it it's it we we're making progress. >> But you don't have the financial capacity to write all the wrong thing. I mean that's it's got to be sustainable, too. We can't just throw money out there and then for the year after and the year after and the year after, >> right? That's the purpose of why I put that document in in in your hand there is because you you you as a board don't want to do things to bind a future board into decisions about closing campuses or are riffing people because of financial
032exigency. Uh those are things that you want to try to keep out of. That's that's why we we did a good job in not using that escher money to increase salaries >> during that during that time when we're getting money because that would have really at this point in time I think put us in worse of a trick than we are. >> Well, I think when you look at you got to give credit where credit's due. You went from a $6 million deficit to a $300,000 deficit. That's >> right. That right there is speaks volumes of trying to be fiscally responsible. And so you've got to balance budgets move forward because >> those fiscal years we did not end up with any debt. >> Uh last year you did and and and you've used impact
033aid to not end up with debt and that's not sustainable either. So that's what I'm telling you. If you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to go bankrupt in this district at some point >> because we no longer have even those extra impact aid amounts that were coming in. >> What was the last four million? What was the last impact? >> What was the last one? Clint, was it >> it was 4 million. It was uh May of 25, >> but we didn't expect that. >> And it was when it was back. You won't Yeah. You weren't running a budget expecting that. >> I'm not quite sure we get up to it. a debt for 2425 when revenue was I mean exceeded expectations by almost what $12 million. >> I'm sorry what was your
034question? >> So I mean how did we end up with debt? I mean operational debt because our revenue from 2425 was fairly large. >> Your revenue and your expenditures you you're >> spent more than we could. >> Yeah. We did not exceed our revenue for 2425. >> You you audit your 25 audit. >> Yeah. >> Have you read it? >> I have read it and I'm also >> because it says that you drew down fund balance. >> Well, it drew down fund balance. >> When you when you draw down fund balance, you have more expenditures than you do revenue. That's the definition of a fund balance. You did not roll money into fund balance this past audit. >> This audit? >> Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. >> Right. Well, I'm looking at 2425,
035right? >> Okay. But I'm just telling you this this is what you've lived off of this this audit. >> And so you you are not rolling money into fund balance. If you're not rolling money into fund balance, then you you don't have this operational cash cow out there. Unless you get some unknown money that that comes into impact aid that's $4 million. If you get that, hey, that's that's wonderful. But is that sustainable? because I don't think anybody in Nafas those of you who have been to uh the national conference is would tell you hey you can bank on it it's it's not that way by nature. Well, and there's a ch that's another, you know, discussion on where we going with with our impact aid, right? Because you look at the properties within our
036district and are actually are we actually receiving equitable, >> I'd say reimbursement at the federal level? >> No. Because come in here, build a brand new building. You think we're getting anything on that? >> Yes. >> I don't think so because it is it is going to be a taxable entity. >> Yeah. Well, I not according to the appraisal district. Not according to the appraisal district. >> Well, I guess I guess time will tell on that, but it it is supposed to be uh a >> federal building on a city property. >> It Well, it's supposed to be a ventured capital property that is leased to the federal government on a long-term lease. So it if if Uncle Sam's name's not on the deed, >> then it will draw >> I guess time will title,
037right? Yeah. Because there's multiple properties over there that are not generating any >> CCISP tax revenue. >> Yeah. They got deals. >> They sure did. >> Dr. Hawkins, now you mentioned bonding capacity. That wasn't approved by >> districts that operate on a deficit budget for a long period of time, their bonding capacity rating goes way down. >> Your rating goes down. Yes. >> Now, was there something How many school districts in the state of Texas are operating on a deficit budget? Quite a few right now. Correct. >> It depends. You you'll get answers depending who you ask that anywhere from 65 to 85%. >> Jeez. Yeah. So that that affects every one of those school district budgets, but it that's over time, correct? >> Yeah, I I've got the last runs here and you know
038uh of just I I pulled districts all over that I could think of of any size. The smallest one was the smallest one was College Station uh and Liberty Hill at $2.1 million deficit. And then they go all the way up to, you know, Dallas ISD last year run $128 million deficit, >> but they just passed the largest >> billion school bond in the history of the state of Texas. >> So yeah, it's it's >> there. But I you know, here's the deal on on on this. A lot of it has to do with 2019 you were funded, okay, in districts across the state. Since then, in essence, you've gotten a $55 increase in the basic allotment. That basic aotment funds a lot of inflationary mechanisms. And of course, they the uh you know, you
039say, how do you go from a $6 million deficit to $300,000 deficit? Well, the state sent you much more money. No, the state flowed through money that went to staff. Okay, there was about a half a million dollars of money that was sitting out there uh that we could use for things, but of the money that flowed through to the state uh or I'm sorry to the staff uh there was uh benefits that had to be paid on part of that. So increase in benefits drew some of that money away. And so in essence, you you had less than a half a million dollars uh that you could use for any type of uh inflationary mechanisms. And then we're getting hit with over a million dollar increase in electric bills from this budget to the
040next budget. That's part of that $3.3 million deficit that's sitting there. So this isn't this isn't uncommon. It's it's tough decisions that everybody's having to make as we move forward with them, but you know, you you can do you can do so with clarity in mind of how do you make sure that you're not impacting instruction. I mean, that's that safety and instructions the two stalwarts of what we are commissioned to do in this. [clears throat] and uh you know, but there's some programs and services that along the way. Where where does it end? I don't know. I don't know. But it's going to continue to force people to burn fund balance like these districts are doing. Um and and cut programs and services. You've seen a lot of programs and services cut. Um Conro
041ISD took all of their instructional coaches and things like that, put them back in the classrooms. Um, you're you're seeing lots of decisions made to close campuses. You're seeing Hayes uh consolidate ISD. They they cut some programs uh that were good for kids uh but they're forcing dependence on monies from Austin. When you are dependent, you know, like my older two girls, they're not real dependent on dad. the younger one, they're kind of she's kind of dependent on dad. So if if there's something that the older two need, they get it themselves. Dad don't have no say. But the younger one, hey dad, I need this. Well, let's talk about this. So that's kind of the relationship that that is being forced on districts. >> Thus your comment, the eye is getting smaller. >> Smaller.
042The eye is shrinking. Yes, the eye is shrinking. >> Has been for a long time. Little by little >> with all that land that we're acquiring from land passes, is that taking into effect the new year far as taxable wise? >> Yeah. So >> the opposite side of 19. >> Very good question, Mr. Trager. The uh the uh the last appeal in this process, >> still appealing. >> No, no, was exhausted. >> Okay. Um, and when it was exhausted, then the attorneys wanted me to reach out to Dr. Rasco and um try to get some financials from them uh before they filed the last filings um uh with with Lampasses uh in court over there. And so I did reach out to Dr. Rasco. he he didn't really have those numbers and he's been in
043the middle of a a bond election >> and so um I have went back to our attorneys and uh and talk with Mr. Hall and he is u currently preparing paperwork to file on what we think it the deadness is on it and so >> we'll see what happens from that standpoint. So to answer your question, um I would like to tell you a specific time, but until the the last gavvel on that document hits so that we will know how much indebtedness goes with that land that comes here, then we really don't know yet. Um but but they are they are developing that land. >> Yeah, we already saw trees already being knocked down, moved, pushed. >> Yeah. So that'll that'll that'll generate uh some more values. That'll generate more values. And and here
044here's the other thing y'all is that u you know we we are we are working and doing our due diligence to try and uh turn the trend of decline of enrollment into a gain of enrollment. And so, you know, if you do that, then those bullets that are in there change, that dynamics change. Okay? >> And so, that's a that's a a recruitment uh tool that the more students you get, the more programs and services you can do because of an economy of scale. Um we are also working our public private school um relationships to try to increase enrollment. Um doing that increases revenues. And Monica, I believe it's next week that Amanda and I go and meet with a a a rather large private school. The 14th. >> The 14th. >> Next third Thursday.
045>> Yeah. because the Dutton Ranch comes out on the 15th. So, it's the way I remembered that. But, um the uh so that increases revenues. Okay. Um the the other thing that that um that we look at is the Central Texas Innovation Academy students there increase revenues. And lastly, I would say from an increase uh of revenue standpoint that we uh that we've been uh looking at and you've heard me I've sent reports back to you about the PES audit. Okay. And so during the process of that PES audit, uh Dr. Shook and his department over there with Mr. Boyd and and the PES folks have went through and worked with Amanda to make sure that we're coding uh staff the way it needs to be coded. We've made submissions to TEA in the process
046uh to correct some of those codes along the way. So, we've we've done our due diligence there. Last week, we got the report from region 12. And so um the 2026 2027 master schedules at the high school and junior high uh needs to look differently uh because there's uh revenue on the table because of the way our master schedules are set up. And so we need to ensure that every kid has a class uh that those classes are very intentional based on programs of study u and those things generate revenue too. Now some of those revenues come with a maintenance of effort uh like a CTE maintenance of effort because you generate x number of dollars 55% of that has to be spent in that area. Uh, so there are some constraints in that or
047special ed or anything else, but we've got to be more intentional in the way our master schedule is built. And I'll give you some information on that on that PES audit to kind of get you update updated on that. But those are four sources that we're trying to increase revenue. We increase revenue and it takes care of some of these problems. reference the 2526 budget on a on local pure local got 159. How much is that as interest in sinking? >> None. >> Yeah, that's that's your >> that's your INS budget. >> This is Mies that you're approving. >> I'm just just because it doesn't seem I'm just asking. Right. Just All right. >> All right. Um, any other questions, discussion? >> Okay. At this time, we are going to go to the uh club
048session under team of aid evaluation um 551.074. 074. And uh if you need to go to the restroom or whatever, get a another piece of pizza, whatever you need to do, we'll meet in Dr. Hawkins office as soon as everybody gets there. It is now 5:46 over. >> Okay. Are you adjourning meeting? Okay. We are adjourning our meeting at 3 6:36 p.m. Okay.