GCSD - Regular Board Meeting

001All right. Thank you. >> I needed emotional support. >> Do I? Yeah. >> To tell you. >> I'll remember. There's onlybody. Okay, good. >> I don't know. She's driving all this now. Seven. [Music] >> Yeah, I probably won't. Can I grab that? I just grab the door. Yeah. See anybody out there working or anything? It looks okay. movement outside. [Music] She will use it. >> I'm going to bring the Ground County School District uh uh board of education regular board meeting to order. It's Wednesday, October 15, 2025 at 5:17. We are here at the district office and available via Zoom. Um, if you are here to address the board, please fill out I think there's a behind this gentleman here. There's cards and half them up. Um, please put your phones to silent vibrate or

002off. And I'm going to do the pledge of allegiance. >> Oh, please. Thank you. I pledge algiance to the flag of America to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. And you read the mission statement. Our mission is to put each student first every day. >> Thank you. >> Okay. First on the agenda is approval of the agenda. >> I would move the we approve the agenda as presented. There second J makes a motion morely green seconds. All those in favor say I. >> I. That passes by zero. Um public comments. No public comments. All right. First we will quickly or um we are um what are we doing? Matthew Kai is gonna take the oval off that's >> I Matthew Kais >> do solemnly swear

003that I will support obey and defend >> do solemnly swear that I will support obey and defend >> the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Utah the >> Constitution of the United States and Constitution of the State of Utah >> and that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity >> that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity. >> Congratulations. >> You're welcome to sneak out if you want to sneak out, but you're welcome. [Laughter] >> Oh my goodness. They're deciding what um student body report. It's not here. Correct. >> No. >> Okay. Board recognitions. Uh we'll do students of the month. HMK. Holly. you want to um uh ask everyone to or just introduce your students. >> We usually have um certificates but

004our the person that does that is out. >> So we will get those to you. >> Okay. >> And that goes for middle school and or high school as well. >> So for kindergarten we have Naomi You want to stand here with me? And then in first grade we have Everett. Second grade we have Bernie. >> He's probably at soccer >> probably. Okay. And then in third grade we have Byron. >> Byron. I bet he's probably soccer too. In fourth grade we have in fifth grade we have Rowan there. And then sixth grade we have Connor here from last month too. So if you're from last month you come join me up here too in September. Come on up. >> Yep. Yep. Come on up. That didn't get to come up. So, remember your name.

005>> Okay. >> They've been doing our pledge of allegiance in the morning, too. Congratulations. >> The high difference in sixth grade, but he's very tall. >> Uh, middle school. um I don't know where the best sorry board your back. >> It's all right. >> This is Estelle who's our student grade student of the months say every time. Uh, Vastelle, this is written by her teachers, consistently demonstrates exceptional engagement and dedication in all her lessons. She is locked in asking insightful questions and sharing thoughtful observations that enrich classroom discussion. Always willing to read aloud, shows confidence and enthusiasm in participating. She holds herself to a high standards on every assignment, showing strong self-motivation and commitment to excellence. Beyond her academic achievements, Estelle is polite, conscientious, and respectful towards her peers. She sets a positive example in

006the classroom through her thoughtfulness, active participation, and exemplary behavior. Estelle truly embodies what it means to be a successful student and is a role model for others to follow. She loves traveling, reading, and sports. Estelle loves basketball and skiing, and she is on the cross country team and is really good at it. >> First place, apparently. Mangoes are her favorite fruit, and her favorite places she's been to are Costa Rica and New York. Her advice to others is working hard pays off. Congratulations, Scott. >> All right, Hari. Next high school. >> Okay, our first student of the month. Both students of the month this time are 10th graders. Our first is Oakley. Do you want to come on up? >> And you can stand right here. This is the hot seat. Okay. What's your favorite

007class? Oh, you don't get it as easy as they do and not have to tell because you're a high school student. So, what's your favorite class and why? Do you remember? >> I think I play band because I'm able to be creative and like express myself >> and learn a new instrument. What do you play? >> Um, I do percussion for marching band, tennis, saxophone for jazz, and listening for concert. >> Good for you. Sweet. Excellent work. Okay. What clubs are you in? FFA, FCCLA, Honor Society. >> Um, drama. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. So, you're the stage manager for the musical and you got first in Pantheon, that region. All right. >> Yeah. You want to do a quick ad liib pantheon? Just kidding. >> Okay. So, you're a volunteer at a summer

008camp for kids with cancer, which is pretty. Um, and if you could give these guys one piece of advice, do you remember what it would be? You can do something different. Doesn't have to be what you put here. >> I think I put like you can do a lot more than you think you can and don't like let yourself or other people hold you back. >> That's very close to what you put. Strong work. So, this is the coolest thing about her answers here. What do you plan to do after high school? >> I plan to go to college and become >> an exotic or aquatic pet. >> Oh, okay. It says an exotic veterinarian. All right. This is Oakley. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, you can sit down now. You're right. You're out of

009the hot seat. And now we have another 10th grader, Calvin Jeffrey Randall Rosson. Come on up. Okay. So, what's your favorite class? >> English on it. >> My amazing teacher makes it so much worse for me. >> He actually did. Truth is, what is your most challenging class? Math because it's very difficult. But Miss Dow makes it pretty awesome. >> That's what he said. But also debate, is this your first year doing debate? >> Yes. >> Oh, and what do you think? >> I love it. >> You're okay with like being out there and talking to people and making speeches? >> Yes. My plan is to take Fraser's captain. >> Good job. Okay, you're in Denver this year. Yes. And on the debate teams. That's awesome. Um, outside of school, please list the things that

010you like to do. >> I don't leave my house with much pleasure. >> That was absolutely adorable. Um, so what is a valuable thing you've learned in the class? Do you remember what you put? >> How to send down to center play on the wheel. Yeah. Neither of our students in the lab this week work, but you're going to go to school to study psychology through art, which I think is really cool. That's really awesome. And if you had to tell these guys anything, do you remember what you would say to them? >> I do. And while it's not as good as opening, it is very important. Please don't congregate in the hallways. Period. Good job. Thank you. Congratulations everybody. This would be a good time if you want to leave and or you can

011stick around for the rest of our meeting. [Music] We need to start doing it. That was my parents. >> My parents, my youngest son. >> Yeah. Cool. >> I recognize >> you couldn't see the seat jacket. The >> ball is too. >> Okay. Um, we first like to point out what happens when you have a cop on the agenda. >> Everybody. >> Yeah, they saw me. They almost didn't come in. >> Um, >> Jordan, you are first on our items of your discussions. >> Awesome. Where would you like me to go? >> You can you can stand right there. >> Yeah. Uh so I'll make it quite brief because I saw there's quite a bit on the agenda for today. Uh I'm Detective Roblier. I'm also a school resource officer. I'm dual physician uh with

012Moab Police Department and I was appointed back in July and started with this uh school year and I have been loving it since. Just wanted to briefly present on a couple things. Um, one my focus uh I have uh three areas of specificity of what I'm focusing on this year as an SRO. The first being is building relationships uh with my uh between myself and the students student body and also a working relationship between myself and the staff is that is becomes important to uh point number two um or uh part of my expectations which I'll I'll talk about later. Uh the second part is education. Um, education is is key to since I've been a cop. I I've I've only been in um a cop for three years and uh one of the the

013greatest things about small communities is is I've realized is that there's such great opportunities especially with the school to with education and that provides the opportunity to mitigate potential future crime and also to build uh success for the student body and and the children and their future. speakers. Uh part of that um education is I'm currently rebuilding the curriculum uh that my and improving upon the curriculum that my predecessor had already been teaching within the high school. And I also uh another another thing that I have that I'm certified in is something that you guys may not be aware of. Uh I'm sure you're all aware of the DARE program. I'm also certified in NOVA. It's kind of an alternative. It's called it's nurtury. It stands for nurturing opportunities, values, and accountability. And it builds

014upon it. What it does is it teaches the kids that they can nurture their own opportunities, focus on their values, and be accountable for their own actions. And it's a great building block for teaching the the K through the K through six so that they can be successful once they get to middle school and then into the later years in high school. Um uh the other part is safety. Um safety is a big concern and um I can't disclose as to the current position of the uh security chief uh for from the sheriff's department. They made a decision on today and that'll be something that'll come forth uh here soon with the entire board and the superintendent. But um I've already been in talks with this individual as uh to kind of help assess and

015work together in conjunction with you guys and schools on assessing the security needs and and the deficiencies. Um my expectations uh communication communication from from my point for from my side of things uh so that the school can um be aware of the things that that are involving the kids that are in our community and all the crime that's affecting them as well as it both ways so that I can best assist and help the kids in this school and help mitigate potential future issues. Um I have zero to tolerance. Um that's something that I learned when school resource officer in a instructor school. >> I told everybody there's nothing >> and so that involves most incidents. Um we have I have a zero tolerance. pretty much any type any type of thing that it

016meets a criminal criteria, I refer to the juvenile court system so that they can best help the the youth and whatever they they need. Um, and I advise on criminal matters. That's another big thing as to what I do. Um, the last thing I wanted to talk is my student interaction. Uh, the unfortunate part is that if I tell you about my student interactions, it's just subjective bias. So I ask if you do want to know about how my interactions are going with kids is just go spend a day in the school and pass out. It's the best way >> can attest since I see you every Thursday with the kids. He's amazing. The kids like him a lot and he great with kids. I get to see him Thursdays. >> Yeah, I I enjoy

017it. It's been great so far. So yeah, it I have nothing else. >> How much time are you in school? >> Uh so I'm split between all three schools. So, I work So, I like I said, I'm a dual role. I am an investigator. Uh, I have dedicated since this school year, I've been dedicating my time from 7:30 to 3:30 every single day from Monday to Friday in the schools. Um, and then when I'm not in school, time after, I work on investigations. So typically if I do have like for instance I'm one of four detectives with the with the city. I do cover on call one one week per month. This happens to be my week. So uh like say for instance something happens in the night time that requires an investigator to come.

018I'm required to to be there. So and then I just I try my best to be I haven't been called out for anything as of yet but if that does happen then I have to make that change. So I I try to spread it evenly. Um the unfortunate part is that some schools have um more concerns and need my need my assistance. So I spend more time there due to those things. So >> um you want to tell us a little bit about yourself like where you're from like >> Sure. What do you want to know? >> Simple >> story from >> what was your career before? >> Uh I was in the military. I was I was in the United States Navy. I exited the United States Navy active duty service back in 2019

019and my entire goal was to return to the United States Navy as an officer. So, and that required me to get a bachelor's degree. So I went to school full-time for two and a half years to achieve a bachelor's degree and life changes, co changes and um I was military police in uh United States Navy and so was already kind of really well acquainted with law enforcement. So I just decided to look into law enforcement and local because working for a big city I know that it's just jumping from call to call. It's not you don't have a a you have a greater impact in a small community and my family's from a small small town and I love small towns. So, >> and you have kids. You have young kids. >> I do. I

020have two. I have actually all three are in the school district. So, >> yeah. One's in prek and then I got the other two at HMK. So, >> any other question? I mean, I could I could take my whole life. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Okay. Um, next is the Bill Creek Bank protection drop structure temporary easements. >> So, this is just an information piece. Um, the city's doing some work there in Mil Creek uh kind of right between you can see on the map uh the youth garden and the back end of the high school. So, we're granting them a temporary easement to get down in there and do that uh drop structure. We have uh had communication discussing what types of equipment um and what is the possible damage and

021the repercussions of any damage and you know having restored to as good as or better if something is uh also coordinating equipment going in and out of there not during pickup and drop off and other uh high traffic times. Um so just an information piece there that we we're granting that temporary uh easement to the city. How long do they expect this to? >> It's a 210 day uh project. That being said, that the project includes uh I think there's six different sites that they're working on. I know they're trying to get the the uh majority of that done prior to any really hard winter freezes. So, I don't think it'll be that long. That said, as we know from our own construction experience, timelines are just scientific guesses. >> When are they starting? Um

022I have not been given notice on >> it says in the contract it says as soon as it's signed starts as soon as it's that the 280. Was that what you said? 280 >> 210 >> it's been signed. So I asked them to notify me before they deployed. So be able to give you guys heads up on it. >> Can you give me a verbal where the easement is instead of a picture? Like >> so on the picture they've actually moved it. They've actually moved it a little bit, but if you if you go down and hang a right as you're going into Red Devil Drive, when you take that first turn into the parking lot by >> the youth gardens, as you're coming around there, they use uh they had an easement there at

023one time in the past to do some work on the creek and they're doing it in that same area uh kind of between kind of in the corner what would be north or excuse me, east of the auto shop. the outside auto shut doors. >> So, the easement is in that parking lot, not youth garden parking lot, but the next parking lot, right? >> And it's it's Yes, it's directly off our our drive, >> that drive that goes around the back of the school. >> That's directly after that. >> It's the in the sidewalk is blocked will be blocked. >> Well, there's no sidewalk on that on that sidewalk particular place. So, >> but they're going across to do the creek >> then that Yeah. So they'll block and parkway >> while they're working. >>

024Um the only thing I don't and I don't know this might be just like a safe schools route kind of issue. >> See the school block. >> Yeah. If they're blocking the parkway. I just thought of that. Yeah. >> So >> we might need to reroute >> kids through the high school. No, just walking to the bridge. >> through there that live over, you know, from HK. >> So, from the other [Music] questions? Is the north parking lot obvious going to be blocked as well because it's already taken up by the roofers. >> The roofers will be Yes, we can talk about totally block off. Okay. >> My pitchfork in my truck. >> Okay. um board of education key performant performance indicators and continuing education. Um but this is more of just an information item.

025Maybe some questions. Um but uh part of of what USBA provides are key performance indicators which is key KPI and it's a survey um that's that create that we take and that we can create goals from. It's kind of like a it's a an evaluation for the board self evaluation. Um, I'll reach out to Richard and um, he will be sending you an email and then you click and take it and then we can set up a work session to talk about those results. Um, and I Ross if they just Yeah. get anything from the building. >> Fair. >> Oh, I'm not there. I'm on the five areas >> that >> um and let's see where and so and we were kind of thinking about if when we do the KPI evaluation we can also

026maybe talk about we can use that as a a retreat or something and we can talk about some of those things that we talked about in that we were presenting at our our conference >> the leadership conference >> our leadership conference there were a couple presentation we were going to get some slides >> and do you have those presentations >> so we could do those presentation in work context one of the things that they really talked about and pushed at the leadership conference was the board accountability to themselves and really having a cohesive board and that's what this whole agenda and we have two other attachments on here to to talk about is really focusing but this key performance indicator, fancy term for self assessment where we, you know, we measure and kind of see

027where we're at, if we're on the same page, if there's a a major disconnect between board members on on on what we're doing in these areas, and then using that to target our our, you know, um, set up our goals and really make sure that we're targeting what we're focusing on and putting our resources behind. missing a process that the Utah school boards would would help us go through and then like Melissa said we would follow up on >> this is I've been reading this got a lot of >> say that is that the >> best is there somewhere that >> yeah these are the five areas you scroll down There's Oh, >> yeah. You can keep scrolling down farther. Tell us. >> Oh, right. Okay. >> Um, and this is also a reminder that

028we need to um, so finish up your master boards. >> So, that and I think there is probably a date December first. >> Wow. >> You're probably already doing it, but >> um, and we can submit that. Um [Laughter] >> I did finish I think you know everything I also figured out >> also those trainings um so double check that you've done all those trainings on that and then mark them up on the spreadsheet open meetings um >> because that is something you have to do all your and even um school community council so the training on and that's on me to remind you So don't get me in trouble and the rest of um then Matt put on here also the USBA annual conference >> which we are all registered for. >> Now the

029one on here is last year's this >> is the link last year's link. >> I don't they probably >> we just got the paperwork at the regional meeting. >> Yeah. >> For the new one, right? Yeah, >> 9th and 10th or something like that. >> Usually this first week of January [Music] >> and then also if if um we would like to um send individuals to individual board members to the National School Board Association. It's in San Antonio. It's April 10th and 12th. Um, it is there's there's a pre there's a early bird special. >> there is a day >> the discussion around around that is, you know, we talked about it. I talked about my experience with that last year >> in person >> and there are uh it could be individual board members

030going or if the entire board would like like to go. Um, last year when I was out in Atlanta, um, I did, uh, interact with and and spend time with boards from the state of Utah that were out there. The entire board, Salt Lake School Board, South Seir School Board, um, you know, North, whatever it was, boards of all different sizes were there. I think it's it's an interesting in in how you look at it and if you're going to take advantage of it. And so my my two cents would be if if the board is interested in really putting that best foot forward and going to the different tracks of whether it's cohesive board interactions or board superintendent relations or uh you know dealing with AI there's there's a lot of different type of

031of information that's available out there you can it it is worth the money to spend to send you in my opinion if you'll if you'll commit and really you know um if that fits in your schedule and if you'll commit and really if it's not something you're interested in doing or if you'd rather just have, you know, maybe a couple of board members go and come back and report or even just send me and I'll come back and report. I really that's the board's discretion. But as we talk about really improving as a board, this is one of the true professional development opportunities that that you have to really get a perspective of not just how things are in Utah, but how things are in different regions, be it the West Coast, the East Coast,

032what that looks like nationally and how that applies to Grand County School District. So, um, I may be a little more of an advocate for that than others, but that's just because I I find, you know, conferences like that to be very beneficial. >> It looks like to me if we do an early early bird, it saves half the money. So, >> but and and there are prices for entire boards and things like that, things of that nature. Um, definitely doesn't have to be made a decision made tonight. I just want that on your radar so that we can have discussions over the next month and really. So yeah, advanced early bird is December 5th. Yeah. >> So um yeah, if we wanted to do it, I'd rather not spend as much. So >> So

033that's just something for you guys to to kick around and then uh you know, we can bring it back or um you want to give me direction go that way as well. So really just an information piece. >> Is that um leadership is that every other year or every year? every other I I found it beneficial not just for I thought it was funny because um a lot of the presentations they were gear they weren't geared for presidents and vice presidents. It was interesting because it was really informative for >> anybody anybody. So um So will we can add that to November work session just talk about it again and everybody can look at your schedules in April. >> Is that right? No. >> And I want to reiterate what Matt said. It's you know

034it is what you put into it. So, you know, we're there just to have fun and have fun. There's other places even >> I think everybody that's gone to any of these conferences have been involved. >> Yeah. Well, >> and it's completely possible to have a good time and learn. >> Yes. >> And do two things. >> Okay. Um >> next board meeting and public comment. So this is a training. >> So this is my first fora. I'm being very open and honest about it into using um AI to create a presentation. So if this is a bomb, it's that fault. And if it's really good, it's because I used AI really well. Um, but we're going to start with a little video presentation and then I also have some guidance that we'll go over

035really quickly following uh following that. So Michelle, can you hit play on that? Hope Shane's there still. She was there driving. >> She's driving this thing. >> Is she driving this bus? I'm driving this bus. I just turn the bus on. She's in charge of driving. >> Oh, there he is. Oh, it's me. Oh, >> you get on it because falling out doesn't screw. >> It's just a scroll. She's in charge. >> And then wrap it all up with the final balancing act. >> You know, we've all seen those viral videos, right? Shouting matches at schoolboard meetings, really tense standoffs at city hall. It feels like our public meetings are more heated than ever. But what are the actual rules here? Today we're going to break down that complex constitutional dance between our right to

036free speech and the government's need to, you know, actually get its business done. And that quote right there, man, it just hits the nail on the head, doesn't it? These spaces, which are supposed to be for the community, have literally become battlegrounds. This isn't just some abstract legal debate. It's a real world problem that affects how our local governments can even function. And that makes it so important for all of us to understand the rules of engagement. All right. So, here's how we're going to tackle this. First, we'll look at why this is such a hot topic right now. Then, we'll dive into the core constitutional principles, the real guard rails. After that, we'll get into the specific tools officials can use, explore some of the toughest gray areas, and then wrap it all up

037with the Final Balancing Act. So, first up, why are we even having this conversation? Well, to put it simply, that tension between passionate and, yeah, sometimes disruptive public debate and the government's basic need to function has really come to a head. These meetings are under a microscope like never before. And it's forcing everybody to ask what's allowed and what's not. And that leads us right into the legal foundation for all of this, the constitutional guard rails. It really all boils down to one key legal concept. And that concept is called the limited public forum. So, what does that mean? Well, think about it like this. Imagine an open mic night, but it's advertised for comedy only. The host can totally stop you if you get up there and start singing a sad song. That's a

038topic restriction. But what they can't do is kick you off stage just because your jokes are terrible. That would be viewpoint discrimination. And this is where the rubber meets the road. On the left, it is perfectly legal for officials to keep the meeting on track. They can say, "Hey, we're discussing the library budget right now, not potholes." That's a restriction on the topic. But on the right, they absolutely cannot shut someone down just because they don't like their opinion on that budget. That is the bright red line. It's called viewpoint discrimination, and it's a big no no under the First Amendment. Okay. So, with that big principle in mind, what can officials actually do? What practical tools can they legally use to keep things in order without crossing that line? Let's get into the officials

039toolkit. Turns out any rule they want to make has to pass this three-part constitutional test. First, it has to be narrowly designed for one specific goal, like just keeping the meeting moving along. Second, and this is crucial, it has to be contentneutral. The same rule has to apply whether you're there to praise the board or to criticize it. And finally, there have to be other ways for people to get their message across, like writing a letter to the editor or emailing officials directly. So, with that legal test as our guide, it usually comes down to three common and totally legal tools for managing public comments. setting time limits, asking people to register, and of course, stepping in to stop actual disruptions. First up, time limits. Courts have been super consistent on this one. Giving each

040speaker around 3 to 5 minutes is seen as completely reasonable. The key here is that it's not about silencing anyone. It's a contentneutral way to manage the flow of the meeting and, you know, make sure everybody who wants to gets a fair shot to speak. Next, there's speaker registration. Is it okay to ask people to sign up beforehand? Generally, yes. Why? Because it helps the government run an efficient meeting. It's a tool for logistics and planning the agenda, not for screening out people they don't want to hear from. Now, this this is a huge distinction. Officials can and absolutely should stop actual disruptions. Things like yelling, refusing to stop talking when your time is up, interrupting other speakers. But, and this is a big butt, they can't act based on the potential for disruption. Just

041being afraid that someone might say something inflammatory isn't enough. The disruption has to be real. It has to be happening right then and there. Okay, so far so good. The basic rules seem pretty clear. But now we're heading into the tricky stuff, the legal gray areas where even the courts don't always agree. These are for sure the toughest calls. And yeah, this is the big one that always comes up. Can a city council or a school board ban people from making personal attacks or from name calling? And the answer, well, it kind of depends on where you live. The federal courts are literally split on this. For example, the Fourth Circuit said, "Yeah, a ban on personal attacks is fine because it helps the meeting run in an orderly way." But the Sixth Circuit looked

042at a similar rule banning abusive statements and said, "Nope, that's unconstitutional." They were worried it could be used to shut down any critical speech, which again is viewpoint discrimination. It just goes to show you how unsettled this part of the law really is. Okay, let's switch gears to another really common question. You're fired up about an issue. You go to the meeting. You bring a big sign. Can they tell you to put it away? The answer here is actually pretty clear. For the most part, yes. The courts have backed these bands up. The logic is that signs and banners can be visually disruptive and can mess with the overall decorum of the meeting. And it doesn't matter what's written on them. It's a restriction on the way you're speaking, not on the content of your

043speech. And now for maybe the most charged topic in this entire debate. With all the security concerns we have today, can governments legally ban firearms from public meetings? The answer is likely yes, but it is complicated. The Supreme Court has said that government buildings are sensitive places where bans are probably constitutional. But the lower courts are still figuring out the exact details on a case-by case basis. And to make it even more complex, some states have preeemption laws that stop cities from making their own gun rules. So, this is definitely a developing area of law to keep an eye on. So, after going through all those rules and all those tricky gray areas, what's the big picture here? Let's zoom back out and talk about the final balancing act, the real takeaway from all of

044this. This quote from a federal court, it really sums up one side of the equation perfectly. The government has a real significant interest in being able to do its job to hold orderly, efficient meetings where decisions can actually be made. And that's really the core attention, right? You've got these two major responsibilities that are constantly in a push and pull. On one hand, you have to protect robust, passionate public debate under the First Amendment. But on the other hand, you have to make sure the meeting can actually function as a tool of government. Finding that balance, well, that's the ongoing challenge. So, why does any of this matter to you? Well, at the end of the day, understanding these rules is power. It gives citizens the power to make their voices heard effectively, and it

045gives public officials the power to run meetings that are both fair and functional. It really helps everyone navigate these difficult but necessary conversations. Which really leaves us with the ultimate question, one that every single town and community has to figure out for itself. In a democracy that needs both passionate speech and effective government to survive, where exactly do we draw that line? >> Okay, so that just serves as a little refresher on, you know, a very high level of of where we're at. The reason um you know fortunately since I've been here we haven't experienced any major um you know uh meetings where we had disruption or you know really even thought there was going to be significant disruption. But that being said um I think it's it's fair to say with with the climate

046right now you never know um when that might come up and just making sure that we're prepared and educated on that um on that level. And uh you know again just echoing that the limited public forum or public forum you know viewpoint discrimination and then just making sure that we have a uh you know we protect the robust public debate as as a board of education. So with that there's there's another document um that just has some it has some documents there for you. There's a really good Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection by Georgetown Law um that a lot of that presentation um information came from kind of outlined behind that. Also, there is our own district policy. Uh couple of things to point out on that. One thing that we haven't been doing,

047we have set time limits and we do ask people to sign fill out a card. Um but our policy um says that the board will specify an amount of time for public comment on the agenda. um typically between 30 minutes to an hour. So, uh I think that's something that the board should probably discuss and and kind of feel like and depending on, you know, uh what topics might be, you know, um of particular interest monthto month that might change, but having an idea that it stays between 30 minutes and an hour. When we were with the regional board meeting, I think San Juan said they sat there for 30 minutes, right? >> Yeah. Um, so, so just something that's that's in our policy that we can start doing. >> So, I had a question

048about that. So, let's say that there's a hot topic going on and you've got, you know, 30 people signed up to speak and we're giving them, you know, 30 minutes and we've set aside 30 minutes for this sort of thing. who I mean are you just call randomly like in order of how you receive the plus because at some point >> it's going to be cut off or if it's >> there's a number of tactics that you you'll see use some of those um are like if you're looking if you're watching our legislative session play out they'll say okay I'm going to do x amount of comments pro and x amount of comments con or I've got 10 minutes left so I'm doing two comments from each or even I've seen them say talk amongst

049yourselves if you're him for this. Talk amongst yourselves. Select a couple of people to to speak on your on your behalf and limit it that way. Um there's just some techniques >> consolidated that come um into that. Uh so that the the last thing document is just the uh public comment statement that I have there for you. That is something I'd like to see the board start reading at the start of every public comment that we have public comment. So like tonight we didn't have any so there's no need to read it. That being said when we have it just as a reminder to everybody that we're consistent in this is how we manage public comment. Here are the guidelines. Um that's something the board can change. A lot of that I'm not being honest.

050Um, Salt Lake City School District has a ton of interesting public comment sessions because they have a very robust public comment process and a lot of that language came from them. And then I modified it to to fit Van County School District. I laminated a card and uh we have it there, but also that's something that we can change if the board would like to see stuff taken off or added. Um, anyways, just kind of making sure we're prepared in case, you know, knock on wood, hopefully it's not never decisions that we have to make, but if you look right now, it seems like there's a new YouTube video every night of a public meeting going around somewhere. Um, >> is it important at all to have this like this comment that you put on

051here on like the bottom of the agenda in case someone I did have one person come up to me somewhat recently and say, you know, I'm thinking about doing a public comment and I had to kind of say to them, okay, just so you know, this is what you should expect. You have three minutes. You, you know, got to sign up, you know, this sort of thing. Just gave them a brief. Do you think that's important for people to know up front? I I don't think that it needs to be on the agenda. What I would like is >> uh to be able to direct people to our website that says, "Hey, >> if you want to make public comment at board meeting, here's go go go to our website and read about how to

052make a public comment. Submit a written public comment. >> Um read the rules outlining public comment. Really being able to inform them that way and direct them there. >> Um I have some comments, but maybe I should just come see you. about the >> or is this >> you more than welcome to come see me if you want to share them with everybody that's fine too. >> I mean I guess I kind of feel like the first paragraph should be a little more about you know we the Grand County School Board instead of the board appreciates the opportunity to hear from the public during the comment portion of our meetings. Before we begin a reminder that the purpose of the public comment period is to allow members of the public to provide input to the

053board in our capacity as legislative body. I guess a little more like >> more welcoming. >> Yeah. Instead of get and that's where I guess I can write that up. I guess absolutely the same edits in that we can talk about. Um that's about as uh touchyfey as I write. >> So uh that's definitely an area that I can grow in. So welcome any any feedback on that. Um yeah, so this came up at our leadership training. Yeah. >> Um so you public comment and policies that help um guide effective public comments. So you know one of the one of the things that I maybe you guys talked about at the original meeting but because I think it was San Juan but one of the things that they on their public comment card is they

054ask for solutions. There's like a little section of you know if you're recommendation um that they would say >> yeah the pe or that they offered on their little because on the form we write this is like on the card it says what do you want to speak about right >> I don't know I mean they're interesting but we don't recycle >> do you have any so >> any solutions not that they have to >> or feel free to share >> feel free to share any illusions I don't know >> just something like that's just they're welcome >> it was a it's something yeah one of them yeah Um and then I I didn't read this code but um about electronic comments and and creating a um if electronic comments what would we read in

055meetings? So that's a policy that we might, you know, look at and we're >> um one of one of the major glitches that recently held up as we talked about truth and taxation hearing. Yeah. >> Is a misunderstanding, even I'd argue a misrepresentation by people in charge about what constituted the the ability to comment electronically during a truth to taxation hearings. Um and that some Iron County got hung up on that in that even though they've been directed otherwise. So, we're still getting clarification on what that >> exactly. >> They might create some policy >> exactly means. I don't I don't know if they'll create policy, but I would hope that there would be a rule or some guidance that comes out that says, do you need to have the ability to unmute on whatever

056device you're using and speak? Or is it enough that you send in an email and somebody reads it there for you on your behalf? And some of the different clarifications. Um, and as we continue to grow with diligent community, uh, I'm hoping, cautiously optimistic, Mich's not here to stop me. Um, that we'll be able to incorporate that live action uh, public comment in in in the near future where it is something more simple as to just like, you know, look online, see if we have people watching and or raising their hand or whatnot, and then being able to call. So, that's that's growing. Um >> and then um also the the procedure or that what we do follow making sure to follow up in a meeting and I I I wrote that as a note

057but you know making sure these people are coming to us for and asking the public comment and then we might direct them to staff and then but so how do we as a board know that some things were addressed. And so maybe um you know in agenda planning we we talk about um putting those on the agenda like just information items >> information items >> if they're follow up if there's certain things that we need to hear about >> even giving that directive to the superintendent or the business administrator whoever means will you follow up on that and report back to us with with an email >> you know something similar of that just having that >> kind of holding holding administration accountable to >> I guess creating that procedure of like that's how as

058a board we want to to get that followup making sure that the that the questions were answered but the concerns were >> typically I've never had an experience that I can think of where somebody has made a public comment and not felt like they were heard or um listened to. I I have had a number feel like their public comment wasn't addressed because they didn't like the answer >> that ultimately came down and it would cause them to circle back to the board. Um and so kind of just having that communication this is >> this is what was you know we looked into this is what we found. Here's how we addressed it. Yes, they're happy. No, they're not happy. But do we do so is that a um a practice that we do not

059I'm not aware that we do this that if people do have a public comment and we can't really respond in the meeting like you say we can bring it up at a a follow-up meeting but or just like a just send an email to the board president or the superintendent. Um, we appreciate your presence to, you know, or your question or your comment about X. Um, and like you say, you give an answer. I I guess maybe there's not always answers. I'm just wondering if just courtesy is just to send an email. Thank you for coming. Thank you for um being willing to participate in this process. and we may not be able to fix this problem now, but it's >> just sort of courtesy. >> That's that's at the board's discretion. Most of what

060I've seen throughout my career has been the board telling the superintendent >> to take care of this. >> Make sure you know we're okay, we're directing you to the superintendent. And that means the superintendent's going to follow up >> with whoever is making the public comment or delegate that to whoever needs to, whether that's HR or, you know, the high school principal or >> or whatnot, and then follow through and you're holding them accountable that >> they're following through on that. to what level that needs to be I don't not micromanaged but maybe more broken down to you know how much communication is going back and forth between the board or do you just trust that you've delegated and it's going to be taken care of I think that's kind of a board decision but

061that's primarily how I've seen it done Have you gotten any comments before like by email? Have you ever gotten comments via email >> on before a meeting? Yeah, I my question is I never know if if people are emailing me for anonymity or like because they don't want to come speak at public comment and they do want it on the record or if they're just writing me. Um but I usually forward it to the board um >> unless it's a personnel issue >> and then I just we've got and so if it's personnel I just I'll direct that straight to the >> Does it go into the >> public comments? Public comments. So written public comments will go into the minutes. They will be included into >> Well, that's the question is what is a

062written public comment versus just an email to the school board. >> Is there a difference? I think if we have a established venue such as a website where on our website where it says submit public comments here >> if it's submitted there it's a public comment and if it's emailed it's just an email >> and I don't see that on our website >> we don't okay because I was like I was looking there's anything on public comment so >> it's on my to-do list >> okay >> that's number 77 >> just keep adding >> I think that'll clear up a lot for the board um as well. >> I think that's it. >> Okay, moving on. Any questions? Moving on. Um the model policies USBA. So we have the board will review the new policies.

063We have DAH drug testing of the other employees. DKF military leaf red line. DMBA employee work information privacy. ELA or EC L curriculum firearm safety. EF grading packet credit. EHC graduation focused graduation pathway. FDAG, health requirements and services, mental health treatment, FDD, school meal payment, FTAB, prohibitive food additives, FGF, student privacy and modesty, GM flags on school property. And then there's the So those will be down action items to um post. Do we have any uh any other comments, questions about those policies? >> I had one in particular about the drug policy and um that I was I was thinking about and and trying to kind of figure out. So, I'll skip past, you know, most all of it, but if there's a suspicion by um leadership that there is a a staff member, teacher,

064whatever um that is drug, I'm going to speak specifically about drug use, not alcohol, that there is behavior is flagging there's a potential for drug use right that's like the core that's you know so from what I understand um after it goes through some channels there'll need to be a drug test done for that person um so one of the questions that I had had to do with um had to do with let's see uh okay so the district shall terminate any employee who tests positive for illegal drugs while acting within the scope of job duties. Um, so I guess for me is if if there's a known um if if it's known that there's a teacher who dabbles in a particular type of corona and but there's nothing it's not affecting them during the

065day, you know, um, on their job. But if someone decides to maybe vindictively or whatever report that to the supervisor and then a drug test has to be done um and then they're posit. So I guess what I was wondering is the policy that I'm sorry there's just zero drug tolerance or is the policy more about your behavior on the job like it's causing you to not be effective on the job? So you know what I mean? I was just wondering, you know, like if people get vindictive or something, you know, I don't know. >> Does that make sense? >> And obviously I'm not talking about heroin, you know, just life. I just >> I don't know. And this is an obso answer that probably not. Um, but somebody simply did a $30 >> at

066least. somebody's reporting >> an employee um using drugs may not be enough to to to reach reasonable evidence that it's in a hearing >> in in and of itself that may not be enough. Um, so there there would definitely be some some discretion there and then looking at what constitutes reasonable suspicion and is it reasonable suspicion that that we versus hey so and so was found at the park and I don't know what they were on but I'll take two of them type conversation. >> Um, not not reading that. And and I think this issue has come up. Uh, I've seen it the pendulum kind of swing o over throughout my career where, you know, you had good teachers who were, you know, high performing teachers that maybe got hurt on the job and had

067to do a workers comp and as part of workers comp did a drug test and came back positive for a substance that may or may not have been legal in that state or the state next to it and they were getting in all kinds of employment battles and and things of that nature and it marched its way through the Supreme not the Supreme Court through the circuit court. Um, that being said, if you look at what's going on with Upupac most recently, some of these testings are getting as simple as a, you know, letter of warning that's not even attached to your cactus file. So, it's kind of a mixed mixed signal right now. And I talked a little bit about that when this policy came up. >> Um, is is what sometimes there's a

068motive behind the policy or >> Yeah, I was just >> And I'm not certain. Um, I would go as far as to say though, and I I hope I can speak to the board, Grand County School District does not and should not try and run off quality educators. So, I would hope that we um are, you know, using our discretion to the best interest of Grand County School District in enforcing this policy or others. Now, sometimes your hands are tied and you have to do things. Um, but I think that's that's worth, you know, >> right >> thinking about and looking into and I can look a bit to it more on my end and is uh, you know, this gets we get back from public comment what what we see there and possibly you

069know we're changing a shelf to a May um because that's a big difference in policy. >> Yeah. >> So >> well I think you you go back to um the definition of reasonable >> decision, right? And and >> so what is >> that might be different? >> Well, that might be different in different communities, too. >> Yeah. Know your way. >> So, um I think >> Okay, >> we can >> that's Yeah. >> Um I and I So, I talked to Matt also about the um which one was >> I don't know, but I don't remember. >> Okay. Um the gym one oh the student privacy and modesty modesty um and what that that might entail um because that is talking about changing rooms in that's locker rooms and so um this is saying that

070we are not allowed to require students to shower or change >> um in locker room or gym >> um unless it is >> partitioned in a very So we might >> fully partitioned right >> yeah I've heard this discussed at length at both superintendent meetings business administrative meetings and uh you meetings and there is a spectrum of of what this means to districts and also what districts are doing in response to it. Some of the um great is not the right word, but one that was interesting to me like a district the size of neighbor which is huge. um talked about with physical education classes um you know back in the day you went and you changed into your gym shorts and your t-shirt or whatnot and now changing for PE for the vast majority

071of their district is simply changing into a pair of sneakers. Everything they do they can do in their their clothes. So, they had pair of sneakers and um now there are exceptions to that like if you're in a extreme weightlifting class or a like a a sports club football class or something like this where you're it may require um so reducing the number of times that students would be require required to change and then um you know what that what that as you as you stated point out Kathleen uh Florida ceiling what what that means Is that a curtain? Is that brick and mortar? Is that a a you know a individual room off of the the locker room where students can go into if they feel like they would like that. But if they

072don't feel like they they need that, then they're welcome to just change wherever they're at. >> Because it doesn't say they're prevented to if they're willing to change, right? It's only if they can't be required to change in front of people. Um, but that would be I mean if it's a I mean this also is sports not just during the day. So if they have to change into their uniform sport they're going to have to change. Uh there was you know quite a bit of debate about it does say floor >> but the locking >> entirely encased in locking >> and some people are saying you know the the bathroom practitions uh how are those modified to to meet this um yeah there's a it's being discussed >> but you could could you do a

073like just if we had to change can we make one bathroom stall in the locker room, floor to ceiling, locking door. >> So, we don't have to do all of them. >> That's Yeah. >> So, there's a there's a lot of approaches to that that we're watching closely. >> Wanted to point that out that that could be a facilities change of of >> you could be shifting priority. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any other questions about those? I thought you were talking about the school meal payment. >> There's no student who has money to pay for school meal school meal at a reduced cost that doesn't exist. I thought that was just >> I thought it was free or I think we don't have any >> um elaborate if you want to. Um, we do have

074reduced costs still, but the way that the state is doing it this year for those that are reduced cost, um, they they do not have to pay, but we have to still track them if they're under reduced cost. And then there's a grant that we submit for reimbursement requests for costs. >> So it so they're still Yeah. >> And that's what we still have to track them as reduced currently. Hey Cy, can I borrow all the cheaters? >> I got a pair in my office. >> I got a fine. I got a fine. I got this. I don't know. >> But it's very this year extremely kind. >> Yeah. I can't >> the federal >> sorry >> the federal >> so much and then the state comes in and pays for >> but we have

075to we'll track them separately because I think the state >> is big cost is going into >> for everyone that's why we had to apply for a grant and then we were awarded the grant last week and now we have to go >> was sent in some reports last Friday and >> anyway so yes and no >> so hopefully they're moving Now is getting ready. >> Thank you. >> Crystal Bald of the state legislature. Item one. >> Okay. Bank of America response to RFP for underwriting services that was presented last >> that was presented at the work session. I'm I'm trusting that you all read the 70 page attachment that was on. >> Um totally. >> We are you know this is because of the timing. It's something that we into and I'm just asking

076for ratification tonight as an action item. >> Great. Board committee report. We're continuing to move forward on uh I don't want to say just sort of tighten up tightening up the communities that care program, you know, and making sure that we have um that we're more organized. We have a mission statement. We're working towards getting picking up the leadership, the different groups. So, it's it's an on it's still ongoing, but um we're still evaluating the different programs. Like, for example, we have the SHARP survey, but there could be other programs that are out there that we could go through and evaluate. Um let's see. Yeah. So, we just kind of went through the whole structure of of communities that care. We keep doing this like every month and going through and making sure we understand

077each role and defining it and and looking at other prevention methods and trying to get ourselves like completely organized. So I mean there's also a report from Zandre you can see in there too that she has organized notes but that's just >> Did you send an email or did it get >> she Well, I got the email. Maybe it didn't get sent to you guys and I can I can I would forward it to you. Yeah, because I think it's very >> like I think There's going to be a point when I think we need to really present very specific information to the board like I kind of like holding back and once we get a lot more accomplished to let you see exactly I mean I know you're all aware but really understand it's

078a lot a lot of great work yeah I'll forward that to you guys sort of >> but you can just um in the two you can just put forward >> and it it goes to everybody okay >> so you don't have to put everybody's name Um, I don't have a committee report, but I do have a board member report. I've been trying to get out more. So, I I took a morning bus ride um a couple weeks ago, which was fun. Um, I talked to all the librarians in my quest to understand the band book law passed by the legislature a couple years ago. Um and then I also um visited a third grade class and all the sixth grade classes at great Jeremy just said that thank you. Oh, I said no, I said

079the >> Oh. Oh, sorry. >> Okay, gotcha. >> Um, happy. >> Um, well, are you going to do negotiations? >> I pulled it up. Did you pull it up? Okay. you can talk to. >> Well, um, so negotiations, maybe some of this has been addressed. There was talk about changing the parent teacher conferences in November, November 13th. So, it would be an early release for secondary. So, I don't know if that has been decided. >> It's been it's been discussed. It wasn't changed. >> It was not changed. Okay. Um and the so there was a discussion about parent teacher conferences and that talking about there was concerns that there was not a fall break but that had been decided earlier in the year by the calendar. Um and there was also discussion about fourth grade

080class that I guess fourth grade classes are getting big really big. So, >> um, >> but this far nothing >> Matt and Holly are watching the staff and ratios as well. Now, >> what are they? I'm just curious. >> They're at 30. >> 30. Wow. >> And the average other classes are 25ish. >> Interesting. 30 is hard. >> Great. >> Whatever. >> Wow. >> So that's all I was going to say about this. >> Talked about mid American pipeline made a settlement. >> So we'll be starting to talk about that >> the BA report, right? The Mid America. >> Yeah. I haven't got anything final from the county yet, >> but we're thinking that there there's like three final years, right? It's three final years that there four final years being negotiated. >> And um

081>> and it is decreasing in the assessed over those four years. So it's not as much as the first two years, which was like 16 and 17 were going to were the biggest. Um this is for 18 n uh 2018 through 2022 >> and so do you guys know what that is? >> So what so a mid America pipeline was gets assessed their property values get assess or assessed >> centrally assessed >> essentially assessed they pay them and then they um >> right >> and then we have to pay back the money that we've gotten them but it's they're gigantic. Yeah, they're gigantic. And the and the the >> I guess the disappointing part of it is that >> it's not our county that assesses them. They're centrally assessed by the state, >> but uh

082and so the state assess them and tells them what their property tax liability is going to be, but then the company has the right to appeal that to the state. And so then the state either settles or whatever their their litigation process is and then they but then it's the county's job to say, "Oh, sorry. >> We got to refund all this money to >> look bad." >> Plus interest. >> Yeah. >> And we're currently doing what year? >> We're right now we're they're looking at 2018 through through 2022. >> Those are the four years. And and previously, so when we had to we had to give back money, it was was it like $200,000 or something that we had to give back >> in those two years? >> Was it more than that? >>

083Yes, >> it was more than that. $500,000. >> We had to give back $3 million. >> Two a little over two plus interest >> back in for 16 and 17. Wow. >> So that's >> I don't know that >> done. That's a lot. That's hard to find that. others are here too. >> Yes. >> But we have no control over that. >> No. >> so, but he did say that they're hoping kind of alluded to December um coming up with a final number >> and that was from the only the school district. >> That's only the school district portion. We're the largest perhaps. Right. It's >> Yes. Dave, you have >> I am subjected myself to community counsel and so I did attend HMK. I mostly go to observe and listen and try to find

084out what they're doing with their money. A whole lot of it in pair of professionals and things. I it's a little different than when I was on community council because we were giving away sharpeners and >> proposals >> well and and Chromebooks were made. >> But the only thing that came up and I took it as being directed at me were we still committed to high reliability schools? I said very much so and we're very well aware of what it's all about and Matt's right up to speed. So that was the only comment we made. >> What community council was that? that was educate. One of the members brought that up and I just said I assured them it was the whole board's decision in the beginning and it's the commitment of the board and

085staff that that's going to happen. That was really it's a very organized situation now. doesn't help their shelter like my day. We had 30 people and everybody had an idea. But anyway, interesting. It's well run. >> Okay. Any other committee reports? All right. Moving on to business administrator report. news to me. I was supposed to >> we're in a a hybrid um process right now. We're working on those. So, I would anticipate the business administrator report and the superintendent report would be >> better down the road, >> but right now I can assure you that we're doing everything in our power to to keep going in the right direction. Um we've got a lot of projects going on, whether it be Mid America construction, um >> refunding. Yeah, re bond bond refunding which uh we're

086very excited about. The numbers continue to look good. Um just dealing with the the day-to-day uh growing pains and and moving forward in the right direction. Um yeah, so if you have any specific questions that we can answer between the two of us, we'll either know the answer or we will make something up um or we'll research it and come back later. But but that's the extent of it tonight. home. >> I drive by >> uh community coordinator report. I think Jeremy emailed it. So that >> I I've been around. >> Um >> and then the monthly school reports are attached. Um the any preschool questions. >> Thank you for showing um previous year. I like that. >> Yeah, that's good. So that's like it's interesting because kindergarten is not revealing that again. >> Just

087the enrollment this year versus last year. Yeah, we have 14 coming on in next >> six weeks. Great. >> And we're hoping that that would continue >> into kindergarten. That would be fantastic. >> Yeah, we can retain >> that they will continue to go. >> And what's the cause of the end of the year? >> What's the cause of that? >> Uh child time and early intervention. >> So it's constant. If we think a child is needing services, we find them. >> Gotcha. >> We find them. >> Are you finding more parents themselves or realize are are stepping up or is it always does it seem to be you guys always the ones you found? >> Like there's more parents that are like, oh, there's a resource out there. >> Yeah. So yeah, we still

088have to find a few, but parents are kind of getting sav. >> And then the resources, it's good to find them earlier and they can graduate out of the the >> earlier better. >> Yeah. >> The chances of high school graduation, all that are just so >> much. We exited several kids off of IEPs before they even entered kindergarten this last year. >> That's great. you know, they just graduate. They met the goals. >> Amazing. >> Are your peep numbers for grade for the four four year olds? >> Yes. And we would have P, but P got delayed. >> What's P? >> P not got P as of today. P is the AO the dibbles the dibbles of preschool. So I was working on it all on too. So it will roll over to HMK

089as far as reading. So that will throw with them with their dibbles. It's called Pelle like I can't remember the acronym P something early literacy something. >> Yes. Can I ask you um can I request from you a um a cheat sheet >> since you're like testing assessment like of um >> write this down the school district like and when they're um when they're taken. >> Yeah. >> And because I think I think Dan and I were go we were trying we were trying to talk and it was like was that rise plus or was that RI like we were very >> like one created the so I'll just okay and then that would help us I think um >> right now >> what's going on thank you and you can add P and I

090can add to it very um HMK report. I would request, thank you, Holly, the um on that enrollment keeping so I love September, October and then just keeping on the next every time just keeping that October on there >> and then so it' be always compared to October. >> Yeah. Thank you. So that would that I know >> is October the 10th. Is that the cut off day or two? >> Oh, October 1st is when the state >> the state that's >> Do you happen to know what the kindergarten number was last year? >> For last year like October 1st. >> Yeah. >> Very similar. pretty soon like eight kids >> maybe like maybe four or five kids >> I think it was the year two two or three years ago >> year like multiple

091years ago [Music] >> this is the second or third year it's been the second >> year like 21 20 >> 22 kids it's been a while since I've had 24 So now we're at 78 >> October one. >> Are you hearing about any kids transitioning over? >> Is that happening? >> Yeah. >> From the charter. Yeah. Yeah. We've had influx. >> Yeah. And and Holly, why is the um if they can't math is that part of your goals is just through third grade or is it just you don't have the scores yet for the math for them? >> So math has opened those up through third grade. >> Okay. Yeah. What what what is four through six are they using? >> So we use um rides which is what I shared today last month. >>

092Okay. >> Yeah. So they're not right. Sorry. I ready. >> Okay. >> But the state only requires that we assess K3 unless we want to pay them to assess it. We have >> funding already for I >> um I'm trying to understand the graph that says projection if students achieve typical growth. >> So it would say I'm looking at math. >> Okay. Um so I don't know I mean okay yeah so projection says that 29% would be proficient correct >> if 65% of our kids no or if all of our kids achieve typical or at least typical growth. >> Yes. >> So but that means they're less than less than 29% of the kids right now are proficient. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the way that this graph, so if you'll look at the total

093students in the numbers there, so 421 students when it's broken down into by total. So 10% of our students are only at a level four. 45% are at level one and 26 are level two. So we have a huge significant third one and two. But looking at our typical growth projection, >> that's what it's saying is that right now we're at 29%. If we maintain that, if we get typical growth with that 65% like I would like we want to have um as part of our goal then we would we would need that many students to get there which is the graph up here for this table up here. >> Oh >> that's how many totals >> that we would have to move to get to our goal of 65% of kids getting typical or

094more growth. So in kindergarten that would be 21 kids we have to move first grade 29 so on and so forth. >> So that's kind of why I put the table in there to explain that picture. >> It's kind of hard for >> the color coding right keeps me engaged. Any other um questions or how? Oh, I do. And also I appreciate the comparatives to September and August in the PBIS report and then the previous year >> comparison of like and do you think that they're just teachers are well kids and teachers are just trying to >> figure out the rules in September and so they're setting bound harder boundaries and then >> um >> we're going to see like an incline and then it'll plateau. >> Yeah. Well, this was I guess September and

095then August was or let's see October was >> Yeah. >> And Libby tracks all of that data and that's why the comparison she's got it for several years back so that we can constantly look at those trends. Um and the program that we use which we use across all three schools educators handbook we can track trends of individual students >> and Libby really keeps talk about if there are an upward trends she tries to intervene with us >> so we can make sure that we're not continuing that upward trip >> and we had a hard year it looked like last year was a lot more infractions I mean comparatively but >> um >> but we changed our system too like I told you We've changed the skills as design. >> Oh, that's right. >> Yeah.

096Over energy differently. >> Okay. >> So, we're hoping that that will help with >> Okay. Uh >> Carrie had to step up to a call. So >> there is an attachment if you go to the agenda >> at the top there is a there's an attachment for her report >> like if you click on that agenda right there. >> Yeah. Then scroll down agenda >> she presented this. Yeah, before >> she said last time she didn't have it, right? >> Well, this is she said it says October, >> but the the books I'm remembering the books like I'm looking at eighth grade and the titles of the books under when I'm going to commonly I was here commonly eighth grade. >> Oh, see I didn't Oh, I this wasn't attached and then they just Just

097put this here that it >> because they're doing what is by the name of you. Oh, we did see these correct, >> but they might be updated if if it's common lit. Um, they might be assessing more often than we're I don't know. >> We just did our mid year our middle of the term starting next week. So, and you can only do it within 30 days of the first day, the first time you test. And so, they haven't done their their >> Oh. So, there are So, it's not a a monthly or >> it's not a monthly or it's it's a quarterly assessment. >> And probably because they're on a year probably we were the only ones in the 30-day event. Probably because they're on a year. They're not going to do MOI until

098after I'm guessing until after Christmas. My sophomore said they did something today because they a couple of them came. >> No, no, not she's hanging on those. >> But are they doing the same thing? >> Yeah. So when we get to high school, yes, the English teachers did send out um common lit scores to all the parent. I think I believe I was a parent that got something. So has a child in English. So >> and you and >> I got one out of two children. One out of two children's they look the same. >> Yeah. >> Did I have the same English teacher the same hour? >> Um >> All right. So if you do have questions for this on this report, please send them to >> Carrie and she can um >> open

099me. It's been talking. Okay. Um, high school that is attached. Carrie, do you have any do you have attendance percentages? No, >> I only included in the report what I thought we agreed to include. So, I'm going to have to brush up on their reports >> and see all the pretty stuff that they included because I we it it was like just do this. I didn't even include enrollment title. >> We kind of had hard weeks. And I personally have done a couple of card meets and so um I got that out so I could go be with my family >> I think. Um you know >> yeah we just we can just meet and talk about like maybe what we want those reports >> to look and then you can present it to me.

100Perfect. >> So I was thinking you know what what when we talk get that from Jill like what the test >> yes what score will look like and how that will look attendance reports enrollment reports um >> send it to you >> HRS we want to look at HRS results >> are those coming in >> I have the survey results >> and um do you know about with those last year's rise scores is that house yet? Are those how >> the English part it comes out sometime? >> But all the other great but so are we holding back to to report to the board. >> But the high school has the high school has the >> Yeah. No, the high school does not have EL because it is not out yet. They have the math

101and the science >> and it's because they shifted mostly from the standards. They shifted the test. So it's taking a lot longer. >> Yeah. >> And are these what you're talking about tests that were taken and did last year, >> right? >> That we do are trai old grades, >> school grade or you know when school used to get their grades >> those based on these tests. >> Yes. >> But we should look by November by next official. >> Yeah. I have a meeting tomorrow. So >> okay. So teachers are giving out some of these scores to the kid and maybe parent >> as it's available. ad that's available but we just haven't seen that. >> I can I will send that to you. >> I'll put that we'll discuss that. >> Okay. >> Admin

102will discuss that or you and I will discuss >> both. Okay. >> Oh, there was one more thing you said. Uh I'm also another thing is uh maybe cell phone how how that's going. So, um at the high school >> wanting detailed like or just how it's going >> are there infractions like infractions? They do they are they written down somewhere and so maybe there's you know >> if there's data and then also if we want to say yeah it's going okay or what are we are we tracking that like in a spreadsheet or something. >> Oh yeah has all that. Yeah, but we're not sharing the spreadsheets because it has individual names, but we we can share data points. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's it's like a lot of behavioral infractions, a very

103small percentage >> have a very infractions, >> right? >> Um and you know, most infractions it takes one or two times to be like, okay, I'm not going to do it. Um or some of them will push up against the maximum with the minimum consequence >> but most of them the multi on >> so we can just like next month we just want to report one so when you >> cell phone violation >> yeah and you can say that >> or say what's your assessment summary here is this but here's how we read the data you know >> hasn't been as bad as we thought it was going to be >> so it's That's good. >> I mean, no, we thought there was going to be a lot more push back, but >> that's great.

104Again, >> like I think that they knew coming in the this year like this is what it is. This is the state legisle. I >> was going to say I think having that, >> you know, I think that really set the tone and us just being like, "No, put your phones away." And as long as we're consistent, >> they know what class they have, you know? [Music] Okay. Um, moving on to the consent agenda. On the consent agenda, we have the So, the board work session. Maybe Nisha can answer this, but if she's not talking, October 8th is listed twice. I don't know if there was supposed to be another one in there. It was just they were the same document. It's >> one's a minute. >> I think it's going to be a clerical

105error because I can see the the field that one's locked and one's not. So, >> I think I think it's duplicated. So, the difference is is that on the one with the lock next to it, >> there was something in there that was a membersonly attachment. And so that is why there are two separate minutes for that >> duplicates. Okay. >> Okay. Um, and then Micheay, since you're on, I have a question about when if there's ever a split vote on with Diligent, can is it you have the ability to write the split who votes with >> I have the ability to select if each person is um in favor against abstaining, absent, and there's one other option. And we talked about it at regional. You weren't there. >> Oh, >> right. I can't remember

106what the >> We do have We do have It's similar to the roll call. It's your name and the each individual board member voted >> and we can track that. >> I So on the minutes I would request to at least have the number vote if it's 50 instead of just passed or >> um >> I don't know. Makes me feel like >> Oh, because the it doesn't say it. someone if it was AB. Yeah, just say it just says passed. And so >> if there were only four people voting because one was absent, it still probably would say passed. >> So we did show >> 4050. >> Yeah. >> 53 or 52 >> but if there's a if it's a 4-1 or something, I think we should list um >> who vote that one.

107Thank you. >> Yeah, I can do that on the on the line next to it. >> Okay, thank you. >> Um, so going back consent agenda, uh, board work session October 8th, 2025, regular board meeting September 17th, uh, regular board meeting August 20th. Those are all minutes. Then we have the o October personnel list and that was presented at work session. We have the detailed check register from August. the expenditure report August revenue report detailed checkers from August detailed checkers for from September expenditure reports September and revenue report from September and we also have an out ofstate travel request from superintendent um for the AFPA human capital leaderships that >> that's the American Association of School of Personnel Administrators I was actually registered for that prior to coming changing job descriptions a little bit. Um,

108but that previously >> I I have been it's been a number of years since I've done it's a high level for experienced uh personnel administrators. The focus of this is really on structures and onboarding and offboarding which is an area where desperately need to improve and so there's a contingency in uh Utah school district officials in different district building up to that and she said that's that's my request >> are they usually are they business administrator from Utah >> it's everywhere >> HR superintendent VA >> HR are primarily well it's probably 50/50 superintendent HR Um, >> well, I can Yeah, I lost my agenda on my screen and so I can't think sometimes when I don't have it. So, I I know it was my fault, though, because I pressed the wrong button. >> Um,

109all right. Approval of the consent agenda. >> I made a motion to approve consent agenda. >> There second. >> I'll second. >> Jenna Woodbury makes a motion. Laura Lee Green seconds to approve the consent agenda. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> That passes 5-0. >> Action items. We have the uh USBA model policies that are new um that we spoke about earlier in the meeting. Um there okay there's a motion there. Any discussion? >> Well, >> um, you can after you make if if when we talk about >> I'll make a motion to post the 2025 USBA model policies for public comment. Do you want me to read them out? No. >> As presented on the agenda. >> I would second that. >> Thank you. >> Kathy Williams makes a motion. Dave

110Bers seconds to approve the USDA model policy as presented on the agendas. >> Okay. Any discussion? We didn't we didn't discuss the food diet that by posting it everything for >> we don't have to do >> that's right >> in posting it doesn't mean we have to >> to go forward with it you know we could put it up there for feedback if we're interested >> but also you know if that's not the direction the board wants to do make an amended motion >> yes we can amend that motion to pull that off the post. >> Um, so we we're just posting before we post on everything and then next Friday discuss whether we're going to >> to approve it. >> Yeah. >> Is that okay? >> Yeah. >> Um, and these are new policies.

111So if you look at the, you know, the the spreadsheet that Mich there's just one that is for deletion. that were missing on the list. Any disc other discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. >> I. That passes by zero. >> Bank of America response to the RFP for underwriting services. There's a recommended motion there to ratify the selection of Bank of America. I would move to ratify the selection of Bank of America for underwriting services related to potential bond refunding. >> Second makes motion cabin seconds to ratify the collection of bankers for underwriting services related to the pension bond. >> Matter of discussion, I'd like to know page 38, section 4. Come on. Would you tell me? Never mind. Just kidding. Any other discussion, question? All those in favor say I. I. I.

112I. I. That. Passes. 5 Z. Communications. >> I have something to share. >> Okay. So, um I was part of the leadership and the organization of the um the um national prevention national the suicide prevention um walk that we had two weeks ago and um it was you this was the first time we had the walk here in Moab. They're located all across the country and um it was I found it to be hugely successful for our first time and um anyway next year we really like to get more more involved through that like with a team. >> So keep that on your radar with a team with a team. Yeah. Walk. It's you're walking for >> awareness and around the track. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just a it's a cool thing. It was Yeah.

113I mean some of the initi was [Music] grand you know on on the whole whole event did amazing job um a lot of discussions and talks and >> yeah yeah I mean it's said 700 they raised $7,000 >> something like that for I mean our first >> where does that money go >> it it goes into um a it focuses lots of different prevention programs for youth, for LGBTQ, for church groups, all suicide prevention. It's like targeted for the national, right? The >> Yeah, the national >> it's stay local though that $7,000 stay local to local programs. >> It's out, you know, throughout the the match of the whole foundation. I see. >> And it targets. So like it's not going to target, you know, Grand counties one specific thing. It will go to, you

114know, >> a program that will get filtered down to us. >> Yeah. But it's a it was a really amazing event. So let's keep that on our radar for next year. I'd like to earlier that's fine. >> No. >> Um because it was in schools, not necessarily community. >> Um any do you have any >> only that I'm >> get me into road? We're slowly moving along and I have approached every candidate from and any thing that's come to us at Rotary and they've all agreed to the same thing. they'd like to have a person or two people come to Rotary just so we can have interaction you know half an hour discussion whether it's school whether it's city whether it's whatever if and people are really enthusiastic about it but I'm punching >> I

115want to know what goes on in this >> what's that >> I want to know what goes on in this >> oh well first off is the truth is it fair to all concern does it build goodwill better is the benefit of all concern I'm just kidding Um >> yeah anyway but but we are I hope >> we do a membership drive and >> by the first of the year I'm going to try to it would double and quadruple our board our meeting and they become quite active anyway. I mean >> sounds really every superintendent >> yeah so put that on my list >> one of the things that I thought was really great that I learned at the not learned but thought of um was COG which is a council of governments and um

116and how the city, the county and the school districts um come together and do joint meetings and they look different in every every community. Um, and so that's going to be on my goal, um, is maybe being the liaison or med between the city and the county. >> Okay. >> And making that the children are what we, you know, >> what brings them together, >> keep that focus. >> Um, because they've I think they they used to do an interlocal um, meeting quarter. I don't know if it's quarterly, but it worked well and they haven't done that in years. Um, but I think that if if we you could start out small of if it's just a, you know, a lunch date with, you know, the mayor and maybe the chair >> and then make

117it bigger. I think we could help build those relationships and their struggles that they're having. >> As these candidates talk to us, every one of them brings that up. >> Everyone >> it's doing it >> trying to make the city and the county work together, not, you know, >> Yeah. So maybe, >> but we are I think we're the bridge. >> Yeah. >> Even though we're never invited to anything, but we can be the bridge because they all talk, you know, about kids in the community and >> there's not a connection. Yeah. >> So that's going to be my New Year's resolution after we find out who >> um but I know I I mean I can call any like >> Yeah. >> good relationship with many of them. 15 signs for my building. Just

118told them all >> um advanced planning. So this is um >> there's a shoe shoe block. No, a flu shot clinic. >> Yes, >> that's tomorrow. >> Is that the 16th I think? Right. >> Is that tomorrow? >> Yes. >> 9:30 >> here at the district office. >> Dang it. >> Who's getting that? >> Health department. Do they are they going back to schools as well? Different teachers tomorrow. >> So we can always go. >> They're at all of them tomorrow at different times, right? >> Ask Donald want to know what time >> or email nurse Mary >> QR code if you want it. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Register. I couldn't get it to work behind the QR code that there papers you have to sign. Yeah. >> So nine o'clock here n

119you can't make it then find a different time. USSA monthly meeting agenda planning is on uh November 5th. >> Um I will be out of town. Um prevention committee that's literally on the 11th. Do you go back? You go down. I haven't been November 11th. >> Oh, yeah. We're doing >> finance is on the 12th and 2 p.m. Work session is on >> the 12th. >> Yeah. >> Safety is on 13th >> as it stands right now. Yes. >> Okay. Are you gonna Are you changing that up? >> I am. >> Is that Laura Lee? >> It is Laura Lee. >> What's that? What? >> Safety. So if you change that up, let them know. >> Well, I think you Yeah, because if it's after I It's just that one time, right? Just >> Yes,

120we're we're saying with the time frame that the structure is changing. I'm not the the time >> um site visits on the 17th. That's at the high school at 1:00. >> That's calendar. >> I've got kids in my calendar. Um and then >> if you're not going to go to the TAC, just maybe Um the 19th is the board meeting. >> And is there anything else? Satie Hawkins is on November 13th. >> I'm accept >> and do you have a plan? >> A plan? >> Nope. >> Okay. >> That was just on my calendar that Mercedes. I just thought when is the play usually the weekend before Thanksgiving >> and what is it? So 13th 14th is that >> Satie Anastasia >> is it on the same day? >> No sadies in um No, no,

121it's it's the the Thanksgiving is late this year. >> It's like 28th or something. That's what it's so the weekend the beginning >> the 20 21st 22nd. >> Correct. I mean, girls, >> yeah, >> next Thursday is Wear Orange Day. Uh, it's the HK is doing a kindness campaign and I'd love to pass it along to the rest of the district. It's just a an anti-bullying um awareness event. So, it's on the 23rd and the mayor is going to we've got kindness uh kindness assembly happening at the middle and elementary school and the ideas for orange kindness and open >> the 23rd. >> Yes. >> On the 23rd and the mayor is going to do a little >> What time is that? >> The assemblies are there's three of them. >> Yeah, there's three of

122them. They're in the morning. We've got to work on a time and whether we're going to bring the mayor in or have her do her proclamation dependent on I >> She's excited to do a proclamation for us. Yeah, let us know when when she's >> we Jeremy's reached out to the community just to promote it too. So some businesses have found that on board to decorate and on that day are doing it. It's also sadly uh domestic violence prevention day. Right. >> Yeah, they'll do purple and orange which kind of goes to Halloween. So >> Right. >> That's true. >> Okay. Any other um things? >> First home swim is November 14th and 15th. >> There you go. >> Fourth grade field trip to USC is on the 30th if anybody wants to go. Um

123they're always doing all these great they do the nursing a really great job and stuff like really cool stuff you make for their students to teach fourth grade students about nursing career. So, it's really cute. Um, very hands-on. And then they'll be doing plumbing, a plumbing rotation. Um, I think 4. And we were going to do welding, but I don't know. Seems like the welding. Yeah. So, it might be medicine. >> October. October 30th. >> October 30th. Yeah. >> November. >> October. Um, so that'll be in the 10 to about early. We're one of the only districts that really does this with introduction to college. So they do >> there's also a vision clinic on the 29th and I'm going to help out with that this year. >> That's fun. >> Yeah. Okay. Any other

124things? Hey, um we don't need an executive session. So, I'll accept a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll move to >> second makes a motion second. All those in favor of adjourning say I don't weed at 7:15 started. No, they're still warming up. Still warming up. >> Find a piece of steak. >> Go over there. >> I'm not wearing any bread though. >> Neither am I. >> Well, we got a little bit meeting. >> There you go. >> Oh, you know what? I didn't bring my little ticket because it's You know what? I told you it would work. >> Good job. >> What else? Oh, I keep that in my