001at so um go ahead well thank you so much I'm once again so grateful that our select board has been supportive of looking into technology safety over the years and many of you know that we became sort of a pilot program here in the United States where we became the first Public Library to put a radio frequency radiation detection meter on loan and I just got word today that centerland public library and centerland mass has just done the same thing Welsley and for had done the same so thank you guys for listening I'd like to introduce Dr Rob Brown who is a radiologist and he has additional information about his credentials uh Susan are we able to give him screen sharing privileges should okay Rob if you are able to do screen sharing then we'll
002listen to your presentation for the next 10 minutes and then I'll come back great okay thank you okay hold on one second please let me just uh okay can you see that yes yes great CC thank you for inviting me to speak with you today uh yes I am a diagnostic radiologist I work for a group called Radiology Partners in Phoenix Arizona and I'm also the vice president for the Environmental Health Trust uh for scientific research and clinical Affairs so this is a passion of mine uh I deal with ionizing radiation at my day job and in my spare time I'm concerned about the wireless the effects of wireless communication radiation which is becoming all too prevalent now this is considered a fringe science to some and I think the reason for that is because
003it does border on the intersection of four different scientific disciplines they include medicine biology physics and Engineering with my education and career I have some background in three of the four my experience with engineering is not great but I do have the Good Fortune of working with some excellent engineers at the Environmental Health Trust now first to for you to understand what radiation is radiation is actually a word that means IR radiated from a central point and radiation travels in waves and those waves have a frequency the frequency of x-rays is so powerful that can cause ionization and we know that that's dangerous but the one thing that I want you to understand is that the radiation actually travels through the body we think that we're solid we look at our bodies and we think
004that we're solid because we only see the surface but when we're exposed to radiation that radiation does not respect our skin surface except there is some reflection off the skin but the radiation penetrates into the body so what we're looking at here in an x-ray the darker areas are those areas where the x-rays have an easier time penetrating through the body and the lighter areas are those where some of the x-rays are being absorbed now light is also a form of electromagnetic radiation and again we're used to seeing light reflect off of the surfaces of of things such as this F finger on the left but if you shine a bright light on the fingertip as the image on the right shows you can actually see that the light is transmitting through the skin and
005you can do a simple test at home go into a dark room close your eyelids turn on the light and you will see light come through your eyelids even though your uh even though they're closed MRI is a technology that uses radio frequency radiation and magnetic fields if radio frequency radiation didn't penetrate into the body and magnetic fields didn't penetrate into the body we would not be able to get images like this MRI uh of a shoulder now radio frequency radiation is also being emitted by our devices and here's a a short list uh at this point there's probably many many more but each one of these devices is a source of radio frequency radiation and many of these are found in our homes and what happens is you have this source of radiation which
006is demarcated by this uh rounded figure with the spikes on the left of this uh room the radiation uh projects waves of energy that reflect off the surfaces penetrates and becomes absorbed and you can see that the figure in the middle is being bombarded with radiation from all sides but this isn't really accurate what actually happens is that radiation travels in waves that that scatter and so we end up with really more of a cloud effect and the cloud effect uh reflects and refracts and does all the other things that waves do and we can consider this a form of electri pollution I mentioned that radiation travels in frequencies the the range of frequencies can is represented on this electromagnetic spectrum and I put the three images that I showed you previously where they are
007where they belong respectively on this uh Spectrum 5G is in this area right here now if you will remember uh old style radios the AM radio had a dial on it and you can see up here with this Arrow the AM radio was around 600 khz to about 1.6 mahz on the dial and you could turn that dial about five or six times to uh go through all of the stations on the AM radio from one end of the bandwidth to the other and each time you would hit a station it would go from a static to you'd hear the sound clearly 5G is encompassed by this oval here you would have to turn a dial about 275,000 times to go from one end of the 5G Spectrum to the other that's how many frequencies
008are in 5G now we I'm sure you've seen these antennas in your in your town or if not in your town than in nearby towns these are 5G antennas the longer antennas are transmitting the lower and mid bands of the of the uh Network and these Square uh antennas which are really comprised of a n of a grid of small very small antennas are the high Band frequencies these high band uh frequency antennas are also being installed on poles and here's one in front of this house now you may walk by this pole and you don't hear anything you don't feel anything and you don't see anything but if you have the right kind of detector you can actually measure the radiation coming from it and I'm going to show you a simulation so this
009is a detector that I have and you can see that it measures from 20 to 40 GHz which is in the range of the high bands if I aim it towards this uh antenna I'm getting values up to 10,000 microwatts per meter squar which is very high and background should be zero this is not a natural form of radiation now the second thing I want you to understand from tonight's talk is that non-ionizing radiation can cause damage to your cells it does so in the form of of cellular oxidative stress what does that mean stress is like any kind of stress if you stress a bone you can end up with a stress fracture if you don't take care to me to rest the stress fracture you can end up with a complete fracture when
010cells undergo oxidative stress they are not functioning normally and what happens is you end up with too many ions and those ions can then look to steal electrons from other atoms and you can end up with uh damage to cell membranes to proteins and enzymes to the DNA itself and to mitochondria which are the powerhouses of the cell now the the the parts of the body that are at risk is Up For Debate and it really depends on the frequency that you're being uh exposed to the lower frequency bands penetrate deeper into the body and the higher bands penetrate less so but all the superficial structures including the thyroid gland the testes the elements of the skin including blood the immune system neurons your eyes and even the brain and heart can be affected by
011these bands of radiation the thyroid gland is particularly radiosensitive there was a study done at the bottom of this uh this uh description here in which medical students were study they use cell phones for one hour a day and after two months they had hypers stimulation of their thyroid glands now that might not sound like such a big deal except that the thyroid emits thyroid hormone and thyroid hormone has remote uh actions on different parts of the body including the immune system so if you're hyperthyroid or your hypothyroid it can cause a depletion of your immunity it can also affect your heart and people with uh thyroid abnormalities can end up with arrhythmias this type of radiation can also affect sperm SPM Studies have been done on animal models including rats and mice as well
012as on humans and the sperm can lose their motility they can have abnormal morphology and they can actually lose their survival their survivability and this may be one of the reasons why we're having uh a problem with male fertility in this country particularly for men who place a cell phone in their pocket the radiation is traveling very close from that pocket through just a very thin barrier of skin to affect the test itself I mentioned that if the thyroid is abnormal you can have immune effects well the thyroid uh the uh radio frequency radiation can actually affect the behavior of the immune cells themselves it can affect natural killer cells macroasia all different types of cells immune system and this can uh predispose you to develop viral infections this is a particularly concerning effect that
013has been shown on the blood uh this is done by a technique called live blood cell analysis on the left is a smear of blood that is considered normal the same patient was exposed to 10 minutes from a Wi-Fi router and her blood was R resampled and you can see that the blood cells are all clumped together this is called rof formation it's a reversible phenomenon but the problem is when you're in this state of of aggregation you're predisposed to develop blood clots it also en hampers the ability of the blood cells to deliver oxygen and for them to remove carbon dioxide from your tissues now all the things that I mentioned don't cause symptoms so you wouldn't have any clue that they were happening to your body until it was perhaps causing a disorder
014but there are people who are having symptoms from these forms of radiation and the the ones that probably will ring uh familiar to many of you are insomnia difficulty sleeping idus ringing in the ears and a short-term memory loss and anomy or thought block not remembering what you're going to say that these are all non-specific symptoms except they're increasing in frequency and I do believe they're being caused by this wireless communication so what can we do well some people talk about you know jokingly uh or disparagingly they talk about this the tinf foil hat of course now that you know uh that this can affect your entire body that would certainly have no effect at all on protecting yourself but what you can do is you can increase your distance from antennas radiation follows something
015called the inverse Square law so when you double your distance from the source of radiation you're actually diminishing your exposure by 3/4 you can also turn off devices when they're not in use I don't even own a Wi-Fi router anymore but when I did I turned it off and I wasn't using it you can also hardwire devices like your computer your laptop top your TV your peripherals all things that are now available with wireless options but you really don't you know what's the problem with having a wire from your mouse for example to your computer you can spare yourself the radiation when possible and finally I recommend increasing your intake of antioxidants because antioxidants help uh restore the balance that gets Disturbed from the presence of radiation so it's a very brief uh talk but
016I hope that gives you some information I want to thank you again for the opportunity to talk and Cece I'll hand it over to you all right thank you doctor now just before CeCe starts is there any uh should we wait hold our questions to the end of the presentation or is that the okay go ahead uh CCE and doctors please stay on online okay thank you Susan do you want to help me pull this up what you need to do just as a note I I think you know we should have some time for U discussion and question and answer including um some folks from the audience are physically here so um I will um I will ask for that when we get to that point if you're if you're on remotely and want
017to use the raiseed hand function um if you'd like to speak okay so are you all set CeCe I think I am let me go into presentation mode okay so um when the video from this is available I will go ahead and um put this on my YouTube channel and include our slides from both Dr Brown and myself so what we want to do um I won't go through how I got all involved in this but I'll leave this for you anybody is welcome to look at the uh links that'll be included in my slides and um what I want to talk about about is the solutions so as Dr Brown alluded to it's not rocket science to fix this simply run ethernet cables from the back of your router you can get something called
018a switch that allows you to hook many different devices up at once even in a classroom you could hook up 20 or 30 devices at the same time and then you just need to get separate ethernet cables for each of the devices like your cell phone or your laptop with a little adapter and then that's step one for hardwiring the second step is to go into the settings of each one and turn off the wireless the Bluetooth the hotspot the locator and any 5G antennas that you might have in your devices today and then the third is to measure because the industry is forecasting that we will have 200 wireless devices in our homes in the coming years that's 5G in The Internet of Things So as Dr Brown said that is a whole lot
019of electrolution that we're going to be immersed in and we're already well on our way so let's look to see what our exposures are here in Ashland that we don't have control over 247 with your personal devices you get to choose how you want to use those but these Wireless utility smart meters for electric gas solar water propane they're putting these radio frequency radiation transmitters as part of that we always paid employe employees to walk the neighborhood and get our readings industry came in and said hey we can save you some money let's just hook it up electronically and then you don't have to pay those guys well when we did that we started doing a big trade-off with our health and then the other area is the cell towers and macro the big antennas
020and then the smaller antennas for 5G for those small cells and then the wireless access points in our schools and our public buildings that transmit this radiation 24/7 and we know that children are especially vulnerable their DNA is still developing their immune system is under construction their central nervous system is under construction their skulls have a thinner bone and their brains have a higher water content so inch per inch our children are absorbing more of this radiation than you and I and it's not good for you and I and then we have to acknowledge that risk is cumulative with dose as with any toxin so the longer we leave ourselves immersed in electrolution the more we can anticipate that we're going to hit that Tipping Point and if we're not already seeing it that we
021will be seeing the Fallout that Dr Brown mentioned uh the Centers for Disease Control has something called the allara principle and the goal with radiation is to get to as low as reasonably achievable and it's not rocket science to fix we know how to do it okay one of the missing pieces to my puzzle when I fell down the rabbit hole back in 2013 is as I'm reading all the signs that Dr Brown highlighted I kept thinking surely somebody's got to have our backs on this and then in 2015 Harvard Law School Center for ethics came out with this free 59-page report called captured agency how the Federal Communications Commission is dominated by the industries it presumably regulates so we have captured agencies with the F CC the FDA the CDC and more and sadly
022it goes all the way up to the World Health Organization if you do a quick search on electromagnetic radiation you'll see something that makes it look inconclusive you'll be hardpressed to find this link that shows you that when our government completed a $30 million study that showed clear evidence of cancer and DNA damage and the ramazan in Institute in Italy concluded another one on cell towers found the same thing they have reopened their investigation at the who but it's not easy to find so Dr Martin Luther King Jr taught us that when we have important changes in our society it comes through three channels first the public becomes informed which is what we're hoping to inspire here and then gets engaged because there's no Cavalry coming we have to fix this at the local level
023the courts do their rulings and eventually public policy gets enacted so I'll spend just a moment going through some really amazing inroads that are happening in all three of these areas but we won't hear about it in mainstream media because it's owned by the industries that promote these toxic products so here in Massachusetts in all of our towns everywhere the industry rolls into town and says here's our applications we want to put cell towers we want to give you you know better service what they're really doing is building out capacity for their next Revenue stream by law we only have to be sure you can make a phone call we don't have to allow them to put Clos range cell towers next to our homes for all these other services that they're spinning up with
024streaming and iot and all of that that's not what the law provides for that's their revenue Stream So they come into town and say oh if anyone says anything about environmental health concerns those are just the nimes not my backyard folks well that's not true there's more than 150 groups across the United States working on this and here uh we can see that with um just local towns you can see that people are working on this throughout the Commonwealth okay okay so these are all cell tower actions and then towns themselves are stepping up and protecting themselves the city of Boston has filed with the FCC to say we know this is not safe they sued the FCC along with Mayors for many other um towns across the country they didn't win but it's showing
025that people are paying attention to this Burlington came up with a small cell policy that had the industry withdrawing their small cell applications and I can teach you more about that later but became part of a national example with a group called Americans for responsible technology that has a whole toolkit to help our towns get to Safe technology we did a presentation out um at the hansam Maria Town select board with these towns and others have started adopting these policy changes that I've been asking Ashlin to take a look at for years and then look others are doing this all throughout the Commonwealth and uh Dr Brown was actually part of a panel that I was invited to participate in in Stanford Connecticut but I was on vacation but after presenting the facts Stanford rejected
026the governor's plan which had been cooked up with industry to put 5G small CES right outside of people's homes in the public access way so with education there's a lot that we can do and these kinds of actions are happening all over the world now legal Solutions there was a docket open with the Federal Communications Commission for six years there were thousands of pages of scientific and medical evidence of harm along with citizens who have been harmed the FCC completely ignored it the FCC got sued and lost the courts found that the FCC was arbitrary and capricious meaning they didn't do their homework they just said we're going to stick with these 1996 radiation limits which have nothing to do with the way radiation is exposing us today the face school here right in Southboro
027there was a little 10-year-old boy who kept getting all these symptoms at Dr Brown mentioned or many of them and it turned out it was the wireless radiation in the schools and there was a federal lawsuit that for the first time us courts recognized yes there are biological effects and it has nothing to do with heat it's these low level non-ionizing non-thermal radiation exposures that are causing great harm and and did you know that the Massachusetts Board of Health at the state level has legal guidelines that now has four pages in it about Wireless radiation and there's a big lawsuit happening out in Pittsfield right now where Verizon put a cell tower right on top of a neighborhood where everybody got so sick they had to abandon their home so there's so much happening but
028we won't know about it until somebody like me presents you with the facts and then as a town we can decide IDE how to use technology but without the harm so the third area is public policy and we have six bills right now that first one Senate resolve 155 has been voted re uh voted out favorably by the consumer protection committee to do a commission like New Hampshire did which is that report that I shared with all of you a few weeks ago the smart meter bill is still out there too with an emergency Preamble because we should not allow these industries to roll in and tell our towns it's mandatory it is not mandatory and everybody should have the right to choose an analog meter that doesn't radiate into our homes and there are
029bills all over the country as well and you can look at other things there in my slides so School actions the New York Times did an expose on what Silicon Valley executives are doing they're sending their children to schools with no technology not hardwired not wireless and they're going so far as to have their nannies sign contracts that there will be no screens around their children yeah they know Claudia they know the Netherlands and F no they won't report on the radiation in the article they have too much conflict of interest with their advertising Revenue NE because we did talk about 10 minutes so yeah okay so there are so many tools and resources is to help us the Massachusetts breast cancer Coalition has already built kindergarten through grade 12 prevention curriculum so we have
030everything we need to start protecting the children um and so next steps we need to have an opt out here in Ashland on all of these utility meters we should not voice these toxic exposures we should continue to educate the public and I would love to partner with you as our town leaders to conduct forums and please invite the industry they generally don't show up but go ahead and invite them um there's some examples of where we've done this in other towns and let's see if we can protect our kids as soon as possible when you flip those Ruckus wireless access points over you see that there are two ethernet ports all you got to do is drop a cable down at desk level use a switch and plug all the devices in and then
031just turn off the antennas and you have not only safer technology but your signal is far faster more reliable you're not Buckshot the children's data out into the air for privacy and data security issues so aside from convenience hardwire technology Beats wireless hands down every time and then um when I was talking with our planning board Lisa me our town attorney was there and she I asked her if she's a specialist in Telecom law and she is not in Burlington they hired Donna Brewer who came in and helped them to write their policy on small sales Andrew Campanelli is used all over the country he used to work for industry so he knows the Playbook when he figured out what they were doing he switched teams so it's not long money to get an expert
032in here and get our town as protected as we can be so thank you and we'd be honored to answer any questions I'll go ahead and all right scre um so I I believe the board does have some questions um both for you and Dr Brown but is there um did we have anyone who wants to question I think one of the the things that we're dealing with is the strength of these uh the research studies and the connection to uh health effects which we have at least I have not experienced it as a conclusive study so I I know you've made certain representations and I think is there anyone either you know online that could address some of these research studies or fill out some information on broad-based epidemiological studies that show these kind
033of connections I'm i' see um that would that could be Dr Brown do you want to point them toward the Environmental Health Trust where you can actually sit and read the science it's also on website at Massachusetts for safe technology the epid sure I'll tell you yeah there are tens of thousands of studies that have shown these effects tens of thousands and if you talk to anybody who is is in this area they recognize that the science is conclusive there's no question about this you don't know about it because you're not taught it and it's certainly not being covered in the media but the science is done it's it's full baked um the problem is politics so if you want to look you if you want to do some research and go to like one
034site where you're going to find you know a 100 papers to look at and and study the uh the group that I'm of the VP of is called the Environmental Health Trust their website is eh trust.org they have a lot of science there um tons to look at and of course every study that you look at will have tons of references and citations so it's a great place to start all right well thank you um so I will I believe does the board members have questions um that they want to and then we'll see is there I see my husband online who's member of the Board of Health all right see David up there and I it's hard for me to actually see him but he can unmute himself and uh David Kinsman is a
035member of the ashin Board of Health and I think he had something he wants to say so go ahead uh David are you yep he on there he is good go ahead yeah thanks Rob uh yeah David Kinsman 6 Lucy frenchway um member of the ashin Board of Health um I have a few questions for Dr Brown um I apologize Dr I didn't get to see your entire presentation from the beginning um but my first question is uh so you're you're a doctor of radiology a radiologist is that correct yes okay so um so what is what do the effects of um this radiation look like in the body like what are the if if somebody comes in and they're complaining of headaches or so forth um from the effects of uh this radiation what
036does that look like um in your radiological Imaging but there is no there is no specific finding because you're not talking about an an an anatomical insult to the body you're talking about something that is is so uh it's it's Atomic we're talking about the generation of uh we're talking about what happens actually to the cells is the cell membrane has ion channels in it and the ion channels open and the the interior of the cell floods with calcium and that causes oxidative stress and then the oxidative stress causes cellular damage so that's the mechanism of injury okay and so it's not it's kind of like well you're it's like if you're exposing somebody to radiation uh and you don't see any physical damage how do you know that any damage has occurred we wouldn't
037know that ionizing radiation caused damage either except for what happened in uh the bombs with Hiroshima and nasaki where we actually could figure out while people were so far away from the blast site that they were had a certain risk for developing cancer but if we didn't have that data we probably still wouldn't have regulation for ionizing radiation either right but I I guess I'm confused then because your specialty is in medical imaging and you're saying that you can't see these effects with the medical imaging so I'm so you want to know how I got involved not necessarily um so the next question I had was um in your presentation which of course was kind of all over the place um in that it doesn't really seem to deal with science so much as it
038seems intended to scare if you if you pardon my characterization um so on your slide there we have the radio frequency radiation emitting devices I noticed that everything there is something that's come about in say the last 20 or so Years yet electromagnetic radiation has been around us for much longer than that from from any device that uses electricity of course generates electromagnetic radiation right the the range of devices that you that you list here are all ones it deal with communication radiation but of course for some reason television is excluded and as well as shortwave and longwave uh radios so um I find it interesting that you've selectively identified things that are relatively new and somewhat less familiar than um other parts of our of our modern day existence would you care to comment
039on that sure well you know I I had 10 minutes to talk so I can't be too exhaustive I've spoken six hours on this topic and you're right electricity emits electro magnetic fields at very low frequencies extremely low frequencies it's you know 50 or 60 hertz and they have health effects too um there have been tons of studies done on what's called ellf EMF and television stations and radio broadcasting stations people that live near those have had health effects too and there have been effects on Wildlife as well so the reason why this is so important now is because these antennas aren on hilltops miles away from our cities they're on the street right across from your house or perhaps right on the corner next to your house so we've brought these emitters of radio
040frequency radiation right into our neighborhoods and people are walking right next to them people are trying to sleep in their room which might be 10 15 ft away from an antenna the game's changed yeah no I'm well aware of that because I live uh less than a quarter of a mile from one of those Towers that's at the top of the hill within uh side of the front my front window and behind me I have um power lines and uh my wife and I have lived in this house for um getting close to 10 years now and we have not noticed any any effects such as the ones that you've described um it's interesting people you know people have a different tolerance for it and it may be that um you know people have a
041different uh setup with their immune system some people have more antioxidants on board some people have other stressors that are reducing their levels of glutathione which is the master antioxidant in the body so you know everybody's kind of an individual and they have individual responses to this radiation it's like some people go out in the sun and they'll get a sunburn somebody else won't some people get skin cancer other people don't right and they're both some forms of radiation so getting back to your presentation there was you had some interesting you were you were trying to draw connections that didn't really seem to exist so in your um I don't you don't have numbers on your slides I apologize so on the one about the thyroid you refer to a study that that cre that
042caused thyroid hyp stimulation in students and then the very next slide of course is full of all kinds of scary things that have to do with hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism neither of which is thyroid stimulation so would you care to comment on that yeah there were three studies that I mentioned on that th I didn't I didn't go into each of the on you know in detail again because of the limited amount of time but there have been a lot of studies to show that the that the radiation can cause hyper thyroidism and it can cause hypothyroidism and they don't they're not quite sure what you know what the difference is except it may be chronicity of exposure so it could be kind of a learned helplessness response when you when you were first exposed to
043the radiation your thyroid lets out too much hormone and then over time it becomes depleted and you end up with hypothyroidism so it it more research needs to be done but there have been uh there's there are definitely many studies many more studies that I've included on that on that slide that have documented uh thyroid um activity or lack of activity from exposure right thank D just Dave could you hold on just a second please I just want to kind of pull the board we've got a a bit over our time we' put aside half an hour I I find this an interesting conversation I but I do want to get a sense from the board if you want to spend a bit more time with this or are we ready to move on or
044what are what are people thinking here well the thing of it is I you know I I would so my husband is a chemist he he's a researcher um he's done a lot of digging into the Articles and things that you have provided um so my personal perspective is if you know if um you know hopefully this conversation is sort of the I don't want to say the last one for a while but the last one for a while um on this topic um if there's questions that people have if Dave has questions and you know I'm I'm happy to to do that but I know we do have a full agenda tonight so Claudia did yeah I just I would like to just make a couple of brief comments um you know CCE I
045know that you had asked me a few weeks ago if I had read what the material you had supplied no but I've done extensive reading through the years back from 2013 you know in part because of my position um in the schools and um there's never been any conclusive um and and over and over again you will read that it isn't just the FCC that that um oversees the and sets standards for the devices in our homes it's the Food and Drug Administration it's um there's all kinds of medical use companies that provide standards for medical use uh nuclear power FEMA um the US Customs and Border Patrol actually provide some health and safety Authority United States health and safety Authority there's many many um you know organizations and agencies that provide standards in terms
046of what we put into our homes a lot of the research that's been done is on animals and if anybody delves into it they'll see that sometimes it cannot be extrapolated to um humans um many of your links CC in your presentation actually take us to um discussions about screen time and and students using and children using screen time and their time and and I think you know we could all have a conversation just about generally WR the use of of um uh screens and and that with our kids regardless of radiation um aspect of it um and and over and and I you know worked hard to find articles um that are in particular uh Health healthline.com had several articles um one you know that I thought was both very open to all the
047the ideas and all the different studies um and and provided some suggestions um about but the other thing is like cell phone radiation is often one of one of your articles too I think in reference to um this the Southboro family um the that that's really more about probably cell phone uh radiation than it is about Wi-Fi again and I know Dr Brown mentioned about as soon as you move away from these devices from the uh Wi-Fi uh access points as soon as you move away it's dramatically drop in the radiation so all those things um are true um and I I think that one comparison I see is that you know when we came out with a covid vaccine several years ago there was a lot of misinformation that was used to to frighten
048people and I feel that there's a taste of that a flavor to this um and so you know I just feel as though it's something we need to be continue to observe um and certainly study but to date there there is nothing that that surviv um really close scrutiny and so I would just uh Rob can I respond to yeah just a quick response to thank you for doing your research um when you were serving on school committee and when you were the principal at the what is now our new beautiful David Mendes School building that was back in 2013 in 2018 the US national toxicology program which is arguably the gold standard on Research in the world They concluded a 30 Mill million doll study that found clear evidence of cancerous tumors and DNA
049damage from cell phones clear evidence is the highest of five categories they can assign the FDA commissioned that study the gentleman who is in charge of the FDA today isn't the one who started this 20 years ago they're all long since passed away or retired Dr Jeffrey shuran Even though three days unpe unprecedented peer review at the National Institutes of Health concluded clear evidence of cancerous tumors and DNA damage Dr Jeffrey shuran went over to the FCC and said ah we don't believe that let's just keep doing what we're doing and you have to do the Deep dive when you looked into J uh Jeffrey sheron's background you see that he's married to a partner in a law firm that represents the wireless industry so we have these captured agencies up and down the chain
050and we have a huge regulatory Gap because not one single agency has done the top to bottom research that New Hampshire did with their legislative report um and if you're just doing cursory searches that's all mainstream messaging from industry they they intentionally impose doubt you need to talk to the scientists whose life's work is microwave radiation and we are fortunate to be able to put you in touch directly with them so it sounds Claudia that you've been drinking the cool a little bit well let me just so but I want to comment on those wireless access points if you look at the communic I sent out today there's one in one of our classrooms at Mendes there is no safe level of man-made radiation in the scientific literature I was getting readings in the tens
051of thousands and hundreds of thousands at desk level in the Mendes School in our sleeping areas the science recommends we be at 10 microwatts per square meter or less literally thousands and hundred of thousands in those classrooms and there weren't even any children in there during the open house so it is a very very toxic environment and I hope that we will keep this conversation going and as far as the articles that I did send on what Silicon Valley experts are doing with their children when I was brought down to the National Institutes of Health to run the technology panel for the health in building Roundtable conference Ronnie Raben is a New York Times Reporter and she was working on a story to talk about the wireless radiation effects and it got killed and this
052is what's happening in mainstream so I I do want to I think Dr Brown did mention that eh trust.org as a as a clearance so I suggest that people look at that um I do want to I do want to make a comment because you were talking about like research and I also had done some research as well I looked at the New Hampshire um document that you had sent I had done quite a bit of digging in some of the links and I also okay so what else the only thing I wanted to just mention was that you were you were saying that um get my you know I was looking at I was looking at some research including a a journal of American Medical Association article on um that looked at radio frequency
053radiation and cancer and the um and just I just want to read the conclusion in relevance it says the evidence from these combined strands strongly indicates that claims of an rfr cancer link are not supported by the current evidence base much of the research to date however has been undetermined by uh methological shortcomings and there's a need for higher quality future research Endeavors which I think is needed finally the role of fringe science and unsubstantiated claims in patient and public perception on this topic is highly relevant and must be carefully considered so I would suggest that you know I I was looking because I I figured if if there was all this data which I actually didn't see like causational data in anything that I looked at something thatand can I ask what came out
0542022 and theth um I would have to there's a lot of Industry plans even with trusted that used to be very trusted sources there's heavy industry influence so and I and I I I I just I just find it very troubling that if there is all this evidence it has not risen to the point of publication in mainstream well-known um Publications like the Journal of American medal Medical Association or the New England um or the New England Journal of Medicine like like where is the research being done you know we we look at things like lead paint in the 80s and what had happened with that and there were clear there there was clear studies cause and effect of things this is not a clear cause and effect the symptoms that are described are literally
055every symptom known to man and if you can if if there is evidence that is clear that actually shows the the the causation DEC tumna that's the C so so I hear you I hear you but I'm saying I cannot see any evidence that that that shows me that we should take action on something that to me is not clear science I so that Noe nope that I'm I'm just G to I'm just going to say that like that that's my that's my personal St on it so we have one person with a hand up all right but let's um Joe or I'm good thank you all right I just want to let CeCe know that I did read that that report took me a while to get through it because I don't have the
056uh the knowledge that everybody else has when it comes to you know that scientific U report but I did read it uh I have some sort of understanding to aort again I'm I'm trying to to learn yeah basically and that's what we're asking for as Community B all right thank you Joe and I see there is one person with their hand up uh virtual so if you can unmute yourself and maybe identify yourself and your relationship to this hearing yes thank you my name is Janet Fitzgerald I don't live in ashin however I am one of many people who are part of Massachusetts for safe technology and I would like to speak up on behalf of people people Millions really of us who are sensitive to electrolution and to let those who are doubting the
057science what's the science there's a lot of Science and there's tons and tons of science that the FDA refused to look at for 27 years this is a follow the money story now I'm going to tell you a personal story I happen to have come up close to a 5G antenna in January while on vacation uh but Lake Placid anyway within about 50 ft I didn't even know it was there but all of a sudden I was in a stairwell on my way up you know touring and I became very faint and I had what I now know is tacac cardia I also had a massive migraine I went back home here to Massachusetts and saw a cardiologist explain what happened I had to have testing and he told me yes we are seeing a
058lot of this okay yes they're seeing it this is for Real and I'm telling you you whoever wants to doubt this why don't you go up close to a 5G antenna and sit there for a while and see how you feel because it is not fun it is scary and by the way I'm a cancer survivor and I don't want this anywhere near me I'm hiding out in a smaller town in Massachusetts right now my husband has a cell phone brain tumor right here where we hold our cell phone okay um as did many of some celebrities that we know John McCain uh Ted Kennedy Bo Biden can we swear they were by cell phone we don't know but pretty coincidental it's right here anyone who wants to say there's doubt or that someone's trying
059to scare them that's a judgment call not based on science and by the way speaking of science um Mr Kinsman you said you missed some of of Dr Brown's presentation it might have included the part about the ruo effect you were saying well what what can we see that shows that something happened to someone's body go inside the body and that's what Dr Brown was trying to tell you and on the slide about the low effect matter of fact on this call right now there's a very famous scientist named uh Dr Magda Havis and she's in this audience I saw her and I happen to have witnessed a live demonstration that she did of this relo effect before and after the exposure to RF radiation and it's blood clumping blood clumping serious and Dr Brown
060can tell you thank you I think you know our time is I appreciate your your testimony this life in depth stuff I'm telling please do not cut this whole topic short you can cut me short but please listen to CC duet she's a nationally recognized expert she can lead you to all the experts in the world and Dr Brown also and M Dr MDA I certainly appreciate I think we appreciate your passion no it's not passion it's I'm I've been effective but Tel has is the largest and most powerful and most evil okay thank you I appreciate that we just um we are a small town select board I we appreciate people taking the time and effort to educate us and bring these efforts to us uh I don't think we have the resources and
061the capability to spend a lot of time on this um I for one felt it was important enough to have this hearing and that you've given us some um good information I appreciate Dr Brown and the others testifying and CCE I think we all acknowledge your passion and concern on this we've dealt with you uh for many years on this um I think you've given us some information that perhaps the board members will feel that they will continue to consider as we go through this um I think our you know ability to um act individually is somewhat limited but I think you know we've been given some tools and some awareness and uh you know if that's how the science keeps moving in that direction perhaps that's something that could be um that could um
062you you know uh affect how we make decisions I would you know I appreciate Dr Brown's um um you know website with the with the information and that's something I'm going to try to take a look at um and uh were there any other other concerns or or thoughts from the board I think um so with that I think I will conclude this portion of the meeting but uh you know CCE thank you again for coming um and perhaps we've started you know a longer dialogue we can continue on this and I do want to um thank you for the concrete you know things we're talking about that things affect us such as being able to use um wired devices versus Wireless and you know how we handle our cell phones and things like that
063so hopefully there's kind of more certainty to come on this that will uh help us make decisions in this but so thank you yeah and I appreciate you continuing to do your research because I think once you get away from mainstream and look at the actual credible peer J Journal articles you will find the answers CU they're all right there in front of you so thank you and I hope we will partner to bring further education to the community because tonight children could be sleeping better parents could be sleeping better headaches behavior issues could start calming way down with just a little education so thank you thank you and