001[Music] Okay. Calling the meter meeting meeting to order at 3:00. Um, is there any agenda changes that you know? Okay. Does anyone have anything they want to change up on the agenda? Good. Okay. All right. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] All right. Old business policy review behavior assessment new deadline on October 1st pending legislator. That's in the it's in the opulous bill that I'd be shocked if it didn't get done for October 1st. If it did or didn't. No, it's that I'd be shocked if it wasn't moved. That's double. It will be moved to October 1st as each 40 goes through. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I saw the opening this morning. So
002[Music] right between the tea leaves. All right. Um so we will just So well this is I just I just want to give a sec. This is the latest one. It was updated. I think I said to you last time it hadn't been updated. this one with May 23rd is the latest update from the AOE that was adjusted technical adjustments in there for schools. I don't think I couldn't tell you exactly where it was adjusted, but this is the new one after they work with the whole school district to rejust. Okay. So, well, no. I think it's it's one you can go with because this is before we didn't have this. This is the view that we're the latest one that was adjusted after our last meeting. Remember our last meeting we had the one
003that was what October of last year. Really long. Really long. And so they shortened this up quite a bit. and the this is the new version that we were waiting for. Okay. And they're going to give us October 1st, but that doesn't preclude you from going forward right now if you wanted to. Okay. I don't know what more you would ask if you've been staying on top of this. Yeah. I mean, if the subcommittee is good with this, it would just go in front of most likely in August. Um, so we'd still be able to meet the October deadline. Okay. I don't see anything out of the ordinary in it. This has been reviewed and reviewed again. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. And I don't see any issues for us here. We can give birth. Sorry.
004That's what we've been living here with for like three weeks now. Construction. We're painting everywhere. That's exciting. Yeah, it's only 25 years. [Music] So, the committee therefore recommends that we bring it before the full board at August. [Music] Uh, student club policy. um the model called the CP20 I reviewed that is that we just did that November um and C22 is recommended and I know I had put out a call a rewrite of it. Did anyone have any I I Oh, sorry. I read the wrong one. I came up. Sorry. And it it is essentially the same. What do you remember? What are the differences? Um it's just like I gave emphasis more. Um I just included the language, religious, philosophical, political clubs and purposes. Um the equal access policy part of it is not
005included in the [Music] is this um that's school board. And I don't know if anyone has any because we already have a policy for uh school pro school facilities which we just did. Um so I don't really have anything to add to the schoolboard association warning. I know one of the ones that BFA would have a problem with that's in the school boards association is the noncurriculum related groups that are run by students. They always want an advisor with every student who's in club. It's um school staff created by students where if I was in all school sponsor athletic clubs, I'm on the first page activity as well as studentrun noncurriculum related groups. So they that student run that student that phrase student run if it one of the things they've been they've done a
006really good job of for over the years is there's always a faculty sponsor with any club and that could be interpreted as a students only club but there isn't a faculty advisor. Well, further on here it says studentr run noncurriculum is monitored by school staff and that's how it is now. Well, though student run related groups could you just take out student run some level you want there has to be some level advisor advisor I don't because it is here and then it is here that it says it's monitored by A but we get to B if school permits a student run noncurricular we usually don't why would uh for a lot of liability reasons we want to make sure adults with a group of kids that we're going to have responsibility over. Can I
007just wonder so I I know it goes back to a student group, right? And so I wonder if those groups that are studentled fall more under just a community use because it's not a school sponsored group, right? So it has to be monitored by someone outside the school. Has to be an adult, right? So that it's right, you're just providing the space for the group to meet, but that they're monitored by someone um who's not affiliated with the school. Unless someone affiliated with the school wants to donate their time to the program as a community member, right? So it feels that's how it is now, right? But they're not but they they're not the district responsibility, right? So, if the if the um I can't even think of the name of the group, the group
008that does basketball uh outside of uh outside of basketball year during the winter season. Oh, AU. AU. Thank you. If AEU uses it, they have adults that your facilities use and they have adults who will be there and supervising the kids. That's not during That's like after school. So we have activity. We have student groups that are part of the district. Then we have district people after school and we pay them to do that. If they're not being paid by us and it's not one of our groups and it's someone from the outside that if there's only minors there, we say you must have an adult. So it's not technically a club. It's a community sponsored activity that happens in the building. That's the difference between the two, right? So like a school sponsored club
009needs to be monitored by a staff member versus a club that wants to use an outside club that wants to use the facility. I think we have to distinguish between the two. Right. So distinguishing between the two is where we're stuck in this policy. I think potentially does that make sense? Yeah. I think it still can be a club. It's just not a school sponsored club. It's just a club that happens to use the space but still needs adult supervision from the group that organizes the club unless they can get sponsor from the school. Correct. If I'm correct, currently the the FCA club Yeah. that meets in the mornings. They were just given the opportunity to advertise and that you're saying that that shouldn't be I'm not saying anything about the advertising. Oh, what I'm
010saying is the district is sponsored. No, I know that. I know that. So, and the to me this reads that they're able to use the announcement or whatever club it is um is able to use the address system, bulletin boards and that kind of thing um as an equal basis as all other noncurriculum studentr run groups. So I don't see what is there no adult that is there with them? No, there is. Oh, so would it be a matter of just changing that from student run to it make a difference if there's someone over 18 with them and we could phrase it. So there's an adult. So yeah, I guess for me it I don't know why we're calling them studentr run non-curricular related groups. I would just call them outside groups. Well, that's what
011I was trying to distinguish. I don't think that that that club that meets that school falls under this policy. I think it falls under this policy. Me too because it's not sponsored or affiliated with the school and only ones that are fall under the club policy. That one falls under this policy for me. And that's why I was just trying to distinguish between the two. Does that make sense? Yes. So I feel like we have to be able to separate that one group into this because that's really what it is. It's a community use of the facility for a club that happens to involve students who go to the school. So I think we need to just when we're talking about this policy, we have to be only talking about the ones that are school
012sponsored, which that one and my understanding isn't right. Is that okay? That's I just want to make sure I'm correcting my thinking on that. Does that make sense? Yes. The thing that you're trying to get saying a different Mary, you want to have them access to like the bulletin board and system. state and role. I mean, is that something we'd want to have in the facility the facilities policy saying like as approved by administration? I wouldn't want to say all clubs have that. Yeah, this is gets to be a really slippery slope. Once we do that, we can't judge which groups get to advertise. And it gets really extreme from the way I've been taught that what you can allow what you can say and what you can't say you can't we can't make a
013judgment on that. So what it's better to do and this is what I've been advised is that there's an area for all outside groups to post and not have it in all the announcements digital. We don't do PA announcements. as as a group. We do them in the morning for a morning greeting, but it's not about clubs. It's just good morning, say the pledge of allegiance, today's lunches, and the kids say a joke. And that's like the preka at the high school. There's none of that. That's good. It's just it's just like, oh my word. Uh, and I'm a non non PA system myself, but that's just me. Um, so there's a bulletin board in each school for outside organizations. Yeah. But I I don't know that I don't know how much the board wants
014to direct that. Um, yeah. [Music] Students do not direct conduct control. Okay. So, what did Billy say? Um the subjective part makes it tough cuz you could argue for against a lot of different clubs and there's a lot of clubs I wouldn't want using our schools. [Music] I agree with that as a nonpolicy board member as a parent club that I I don't want my children being exposed to. The world's rather politically charged right now. I think schools should be focused on academics and I'd rather not introduce it's already everywhere else in the world. I'd rather we don't need it a safe space where they go environment rather than a place that could potentially become a hostile environment based on different things going on. Yeah. So it is recommended to take B. I would get
015rid of two. and do what Karen suggested. I think Karen's right on the money for non student groups. Yeah, just say that right here too that this policy only applies to one and two and not the non, right? But I would I would just say it's part of the our school facilities, this board has determined years ago agree with it is that our facilities are open to use by the community and please do use them. Okay. Do all of our clubs now fall under curriculum related or would we have to leave part of two in other areurriculum related groups? It does really spell it out in here though that it says that if a group or club is um organized or run by non like it falls under the other policy. So to answer to
016answer your question just I'd have to go do an audit to be sure with the transferable skills. I talked to them there and knowing um the standards and different content areas to what I can think of off the top of my head. I can't think of one that isn't, but I don't want to say that definitively because I haven't done an audit. Yeah, I was I don't think that's still at the top of my head. Yeah, I mean the transferable skills probably cover a lot in their advocacy, civics, uh communication, problem solving, current clubs, yearbook, society, what happens here with that one? Uh that's one for uh kids that it's really trying to instill belonging for all kids. Um and that it also mentioned [Music] a curriculum. So you partnered part of the social studies
017curriculum where there's different uh day straight alliance that's part of what's under the national social study standards and transfer skills would be about learning about different cultures interact robotics Yes. Mercury. All right. So if we move it to any non any student run noncurriculum to use so we have to and what I want to check with what you have here um Marian may be mine I just want to throw the equal access by our attorney. Okay. Just to make sure we're not doing anything that I think with the equal access act like that what we have right here that's a but if we stick to that and that's what we say for our employment and everything else we're actually shorter to the fees that we buy access act usually covers a lot of that but
018I want him to read it and if he says we're fine or if there's something different back but I don't that's usually a good piece of Ier the recommended one just because it doesn't call out like religious philosophical political it's just open like you are school sponsored or you're not school sponsored just leave it All right. [Laughter] All right. [Music] So if you have that just run through and then in August come back come back and just finalize it. Yeah. Look at the whole thing. Okay. Yeah. You okay with that? I just got one comment. I guess one [Music] sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. Second page one this one. It just says activities or clubs that mean one of the following will be considered a curriculum whether the first one is subject matter of the student
019or noncurricular group is a is a club it's actually taught or will be taught in a regular scheduled course if we're going to consider that under the community use of school facilities that group doesn't that complicate things if now you're indicating that they should have within this section that is That phrase of student run non might be right might just that might just have to be stricken. Yeah. Okay. It just sounds like it complicates things and we're back to figure out which which policy they would follow matter of it's actually right there. Okay. Mhm. Which is what he says in the next. Yeah. Yeah. All right. [Music] Okay. 8001 board member conflict of interest. Okay. So, they're very similar. Um the places where they're different um is under the heading. So those policy and definitions
020are the same. Um so the um VSBA um sample policy lists them as the next section as administrative responsibilities and Maple Run calls it implementation. So we'll have to decide um where we stand with that. And then number one under the maple run policy is a maple run policy only that board members will be familiar with the VSBA or similar code of ethics and will observe their provisions. Um that is not in the sample policy. Um it also says that in run they'll sign this annually. Does that is that a thing that happens? Okay. Um the other place that they differ uh is on the maple run the next section avoiding conflicts is broken out whereas in the sample policy it's just part of the numbering um system. So this section they just broke it
021out separately. Everything that's in it is the same. It's just whether we like the idea of avoiding conflicts as a separate header here. Um, and then the only other place that they differ under Maple Run is in that avoiding conflict section under 2C, there is in the very last one, I know this sounds weird, but it says in addition, so it talks about um the public finding the conflict of interest is supported by the evidence. That part's the same but the after the comment in addition to disqualifying him or herself from voting or otherwise partic participating in the board deliberations or decision that was already stated above but that's just an extra section to that sentence which I think is fine. So the only question that I have and what whether people um which people
022prefer is the header and I don't know if anyone has any preference to it. I don't necessarily have a preference whether we I mean I think I prefer the word administrative responsibilities over implementation. I think it just was saying like this is your role. Um so my recommendation would be to change that header to administrative responsibilities. But I'm curious what people are thinking about whether they want the avoiding conflict section to stand out on its own like that. It's exactly the same in there. It's just whether we want that to be its own section. Um, and whether there's any weight to making it it like does that feel important to have it be its own section or not? That's my wonder. Does anyone have a strong feeling about this? I don't have a strong opinion.
023I always Yeah, I think so. So I guess my my recommendation would be to change that to administrative responsibilities and from implementation and to leave avoiding conflicts as a separate section. Breaking it up that way. Those would be my two recommendations and leave everything else the same. [Music] Does that make sense to you? If you make those changes, we'll bring it before the board august. Thank you. All right. C-51 weapon. Joanna is not here. And we I saw your side letter. Okay. Was there anything, Bill, that you found out differently from on the weapons on the weapons form? Um, no, I don't think so. I like it. I like just to have it being because I think it's good to say that there are other types of weapons besides a gun. Yeah. And I like
024that it has a May because then the second gra come to the board deal with it. Talk to mom and dad about making sure things are kept at home. Yeah. So Joanna not being here. Do we just you can check on it in August again? Yeah. If does anyone have I I like this policy as written or fine with moving it forward as Uh, we've been on B3 alcohol drugs. Yeah, this where she was concerned about the prescription drugs being used illegally. And I feel that as long as we're doing it as medication and we know that Bill needs to have his inhaler twice a day and that's done under adult supervision, we're okay. But if you're disputing pick a drug that is a prescription drug, but you're not supposed to it's illegal. I think
025your attorney Yeah. cover that one. Yeah. So, we're good with the current run, I think. So, I believe this workplace covers the staff as well. It's not just, you know, if I if I said, "Hey, Maryanne, take these and they're prescription drug." You shouldn't be. That's a unsafe. Not saying you should. I don't take any either. All right. tobacco that was also that was another part about the John had a big question about adding tobacco to the well we're talking about for staff as well so and it says right here under this D3 it's policy is blank you have no employee volunteer website manufacturers. Yeah. [Music] So that's covered in there. Well, it doesn't have a lot of nicotine. That's one of the things that she was concerned about. But driving means any [Music] tobacco
026policy though separate, right? So do you remember what and we're we're tobaccof free. All campuses are to be tobacco and nicotine free. So if there's a tobacco policy, then tobacco doesn't need to be in the drug policy. I don't think so. That's what I think was the sort of concern. I don't think so. That makes sense. It feels like we're done. And I'm also a person of minimal policy. That's who I am. I would ask you all to check that. That's just who I am. [Music] This is minimal policy. I know that's I'm serious. If we went to Colchester and looked at their policy, it's just lots of But that's who they are. I'm not saying one's right or wrong. It's just two right what communities are and how communities want to operate. I've operated
027in both on your side with that one. So you're done with old business on next steps. We are not meeting in July. [Music] So for a do we want to pick what we want to do in August? Just looking at the recommended [Music] B8 I can do a One B8. I can do B8. That sounds nice. B8. Sure. [Music] Title one, title N sexual harassment policy. So those that Yeah, that was 2020. So we're at 25. Title line section harassment policy. Sure. C21 C12. Oh, C12. Yep. class signs. We just adopted that one. That one also 484. Is it 484? Yeah, 454. 454. It was 310. That's sort of a taken away as a policy. Do you still have one? It's stricter. You can have stricter. You can have larger classes. And so that one
028won't be in effect, right? probably what's the class size will effect date? I don't know. I I know I read it on Saturday. I can't remember. Oh, is it? Um, so this the average class size was just updated in November. [Music] I didn't see um [Music] parental involvement EO1. I can do that one. [Music] No, if they were adopted. Oh, no. Yeah, I can tell you like FO3 and FO4 we just updated because we had it too through statute. Yeah, even though they say required there. We just did them last last summer or two summers ago because they were required nondiscriminary mascots and school. Yeah, that that was a Thank you, legislature on that year. So, is that something we should update or I'm not sure you need to update. You can Yeah, you can
029look at it, but I don't think there's anything different that's come out cuz that was straight out of Vermont legislator action that then created that policy. Okay. It looks like they're unless I'm reading it wrong. Is that it? That might be it for right now. And that might be a question Marian I know for the board or what if the big piece was to go through all the required recommended policies that so that might be what you want to get from the board about what further work you there's we could start putting a schedule together so there's a round robin for review of policies because they should be reviewed every five years but the heavy lift has been done by this And then do we make a calendar of activities? Do we Is there something
030the board wants us wants the sub to work on? [Music] All right. So Karen, Jess, Bill, and I have each have one. I'll talk to the attorney two attorney questions. Okay. Wonder if we take two out of the model policy having your draft looked at. Okay. Concern. All right. And that is August [Music] third. Is it third week or second week? We've been doing the second Monday with a couple of exceptions. This is the next if we stick with the second Monday would be August 11th. August 11th. That works. It works for you. Mhm. So, we might have to just find a different location. Well, that'll be 3:00. We'll be out of here. Yeah, because that's new staff orientation, but it'll work. It'll work because in the morning they may be in this room. But
031yeah, sounds good. We talk about that already. Okay, that's good. All right, meeting is 3:40. Thank you. Receive.