001SBSD Owl Cam: Okay. All right. Michelle, can you hear us? SBSD Owl Cam: Drink. SBSD Owl Cam: Alright, you can do it. SBSD Owl Cam: Michelle? Hold on, let's see if this helps. SBSD Owl Cam: Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3. Michelle: She can hear you. SBSD Owl Cam: You're… that's… that's Michelle? Yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Michelle: me. SBSD Owl Cam: So I'd like to call to order the June 17, 2026 regular meeting of the South Burlington School Board. The first item on the agenda is a proposed executive session. I would entertain a motion to find that premature public knowledge of what we're about to discuss. SBSD Owl Cam: Which is employment of a public officer or employee, and to receive confidential attorney-client communication for the purpose of providing legal services to the board, would place
002the board at substantial disadvantage. I'll move the motion. Dan moves. I second. SBSD Owl Cam: Emily seconds, any discussion? SBSD Owl Cam: All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Michelle, what's your vote? Michelle: Bye. SBSD Owl Cam: So, motion passes. I would entertain a motion to enter into executive session. Stand motions. I second. Emily seconds. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Who shall we vote? Michelle: Bye. SBSD Owl Cam: We're gonna go into executive session. We've got, Joe McNeil, district lawyer, Mick Letty, district lawyer, and Joe Clark, Superintendent, gonna be joining us. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, you're good to go. SBSD Owl Cam: Alright, I'd like to call… SBSD Owl Cam: Back into order, the June 17th, 2026 regular meeting of the South Burlington School Board. We just got out of executive session, where we
003discussed employment of a public officer or employee. SBSD Owl Cam: and received confidential attorney-client communication for the purpose of providing legal services to the board. We're joined by SBSD Owl Cam: Superintendent Joe Clark, District Lawyer Joe McNeil, and District Lawyer Mick Weddy. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item in the agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance. SBSD Owl Cam: and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item on the agenda is announcements. SBSD Owl Cam: Does the board have any announcements? SBSD Owl Cam: So, as a reminder, we'll also talk about this again, but we are going to have to fill a school board vacancy, and so at our next meetings, we're going to be holding interviews for SBSD Owl
004Cam: People who would like to fill the vacancy on the school board. SBSD Owl Cam: So, I will just… I just have one quick announcement, and that is my graduation was this past… SBSD Owl Cam: Friday, June the 12th, and it was awesome. Congratulations, Allie. SBSD Owl Cam: And, yeah, and congratulations to the Class of 2026. Patrick Burke was recognized, and there was a memorial, or not memorial, but a scholarship set up in his honor, which was very cool. First… first time that happened, and I think it was a nice surprise for Patrick. SBSD Owl Cam: And, yeah, it was just… it was great. He was also the commencement speaker, and you can go online and watch the, the whole commencement address. SBSD Owl Cam: And his… his speech was fantastic. I think it was
005very good. It was all about the value of public schools, and he just did an excellent job. So, highly recommend it, and again, congratulations, and… SBSD Owl Cam: Guys, maybe seniors now. Oh my gosh! So, same times. SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item on the agenda is to review the agenda. So, we have comments from the public, then the student representative report. SBSD Owl Cam: And recognition of Student Representative Ali Ledoux. SBSD Owl Cam: Then we have a discussion item on the results of focus groups and community forums regarding the ENT policy. SBSD Owl Cam: Then we have election of the school board clerk. Then we have, school board vacancy. SBSD Owl Cam: Then we have a third reading of Policy F5, wellness, then we have a third reading of
006Policy F20, student use of cell phones, then we have Monitor Report 2.2, Treatment of Staff, then we have Monitor Report 2.1, Treatment of Students. SBSD Owl Cam: Then we have superintendent's report, year in review, then we have a consent agenda. SBSD Owl Cam: I have a couple amendments. Does anybody have any amendments? SBSD Owl Cam: So, if the board is amenable, I would like to move Monitoring Report 2.1 and Monitor Report 2.2 to, SBSD Owl Cam: Another to a future meeting, just so that we can, get more, longitudinal data in the presentation. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, and those are obviously very important monitoring reports, so I fully would like to have all the information that would be needed to monitor it, because it makes sense to do it without that, but I definitely don't want
007it to fall off the calendar. Yeah, agreed. SBSD Owl Cam: So is the board amenable to moving those to a future date? And I'll work with Joe to get that as well. Is there a recommendation, Joe? Yeah, I had a good talk with Seamus today, and I think it's a voice. Okay. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, so we are going to be striking action items on Monitor Report 2.2 and Monitor Report 2.1. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, so the next item on the agenda is comments from the public. So, at our school board, there are three opportunities for the public to comment. SBSD Owl Cam: Right now, about anything. SBSD Owl Cam: Also, if we're going to take action on something, but only on the thing that we're actioning. And third of all, this is
008a specially worn community forum, and only on the topics on the agenda. This is not SBSD Owl Cam: A community forum, and that's the only time when we respond to public comments, so if anybody says anything right now, we won't respond to them. SBSD Owl Cam: And official complaints… And grievances cannot be filed during public comment, and please do not violate anyone's privacy. SBSD Owl Cam: Liberty Online. Liberty Online. Alright. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item in the agenda is the focus on student learning, starting with the Student Representative Report. Awesome, okay, we only have one thing on the student representative report today, and that'll be me thanking you all. I want to take a minute to say thank you to you guys, and Dr. Clark. SBSD Owl Cam: for having me as a student
009representative for the past two and a half years. This role truly, truly changed my life for the better. And because of the culture you all create here, I have felt more empowered to use my voice and make meaningful change in our district, so… SBSD Owl Cam: because of the leadership skills I've had, I now feel that I'm prepared to go make change in other community. I'm going to UNC Sharp next year, which is exciting. And I'm just immensely grateful for all the work you guys have put into making SB schools a better place than they already are right now. SBSD Owl Cam: And while this is my last regular meeting, I will stay involved with the board's work, and I'll make sure to keep in touch. SBSD Owl Cam: And you guys are left with
010some incredible student representatives that will continue our work, and I'm really excited to see what they're gonna do in the future. So, thank you guys so much for the time I've been. SBSD Owl Cam: It has just been an absolute pleasure to work with you, Ali, and I thank your staff, and for wonderful things. You're obviously SBSD Owl Cam: Very smart and poised, and a great leader, so thanks so much for being a part of this. SBSD Owl Cam: That's the one. SBSD Owl Cam: Did you get the, recommendation letter? I did. The clearest on that you say thank you. Awesome. SBSD Owl Cam: No. SBSD Owl Cam: Guys, yes, it is! SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you so much. Should I write something in? Open it? Open it. SBSD Owl Cam: Are you gonna say?
011SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you. SBSD Owl Cam: I've read Dennis. SBSD Owl Cam: I love it. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, so the raindale always reminds me of the moon. He actually has a moon. I'll try to come back. We'll see. SBSD Owl Cam: been hardened. SBSD Owl Cam: I just wanted to say that I think SBSD Owl Cam: There are so many things that… SBSD Owl Cam: You can do that are for yourself, you know? SBSD Owl Cam: Studying to get into a… SBSD Owl Cam: good school, you know, pursuing your career, all these things, but I think what you did when you came on this board is you said, I'm gonna serve others. SBSD Owl Cam: And, learning how to do that competently, as you clearly do when you ask very insightful
012questions, you help influence discussion, SBSD Owl Cam: the country, And just the world needs people to step up like you stepped up, so thank you for SBSD Owl Cam: All the time and effort you put into this. Michelle : Well said. Michelle : Thank you so much, Ali. It's been an absolute pleasure working from you and learning from you. SBSD Owl Cam: Michelle. SBSD Owl Cam: Alright, well… Thank you again. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, we wish you all the best, and we do hope that you will keep in touch. And Ali, as I said in my recommendation letter, I think you are exceptional. SBSD Owl Cam: And I had the privilege of writing a recommendation letter to… for Ali to UNCC. And I'm not going to read it all, but I had said her greatest
013strengths lie in her intellect, empathy, and capacity to mobilize others toward a common good. SBSD Owl Cam: And I think that's very true, so… Very little sad. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, the next item on the agenda is a discussion on the results of focus groups and community forums regarding the ENTS policy, so I'm just gonna… SBSD Owl Cam: I'll jump on my screen here. SBSD Owl Cam: So… This year, for the first time in 10 years. SBSD Owl Cam: the school board has decided to review our ENS policy, which is kind of like our Constitution, or our Bill of Rights. SBSD Owl Cam: Depending on how you think about it. And… SBSD Owl Cam: As part of that, we charged a committee, Michelle, Alyssa, and me, to… SBSD Owl Cam: Organize things, and we
014also hired a consultant. SBSD Owl Cam: To help us, go out to community, invite people, you know. SBSD Owl Cam: fight to get them to come and talk to us. We also held four community forums where the school board's meeting, in full quorum invited community members and experts SBSD Owl Cam: To come and talk to us about what's important in the Constitution for a school district. And so, we're about a little bit less than halfway through the process right now. We… SBSD Owl Cam: Committed to hearing from the community and having four SBSD Owl Cam: Listening sessions, and also doing some community forums before we ever started to draft SBSD Owl Cam: any changes that we might make to the ENS policy. And so we've now arrived at that point, and so over the course
015of the summer, the ENDS Policy Committee is going to be proposing SBSD Owl Cam: I have a feeling multiple different versions of the direction that the board wants to go in with the ENS policy, ranging from the smallest tweaks. SBSD Owl Cam: To a complete rewrite, and then something in the middle. SBSD Owl Cam: So right now, we just wanted to take a minute to, reflect on some of the things that have been said. SBSD Owl Cam: And actually, some of these that I'm gonna show SBSD Owl Cam: are from the superintendent's efforts to go out to the community in 3Q meetings, and also the superintendent's student advisory meetings. So there has been a full team effort to get SBSD Owl Cam: Pulse of, where the community is at, for our schools. SBSD Owl Cam:
016I organized it myself into 3 different categories, so… SBSD Owl Cam: Forgive me, there's a little bit of bias in terms of SBSD Owl Cam: how it's organized, but I think that's inevitable, and… SBSD Owl Cam: You know, we should just call it out that SBSD Owl Cam: I hear things in a certain way, but I think the quotes should speak for themselves. SBSD Owl Cam: So… Okay, so one thing we heard was around life skills. SBSD Owl Cam: So… This high school student… SBSD Owl Cam: has, a very specific set of things in mind, that they were interested in. But I go back here in this life skills section to something the superintendent told me SBSD Owl Cam: Around, and you said it in the public meetings a couple times, it's how do we
017give people the, the, skills to move out of their parents' basement? SBSD Owl Cam: I love this one. How do I… SBSD Owl Cam: how do I participate as a person living in the USA? Right? SBSD Owl Cam: I think that that has to do with civics, That has to do with… SBSD Owl Cam: Job, there has to do with so many things. SBSD Owl Cam: Here is the Vermont Commissioner of Labor. SBSD Owl Cam: Mentioning the importance of showing up on time. SBSD Owl Cam: Communicating clearly. SBSD Owl Cam: And, that's the perspective from… from the Department of Labor. SBSD Owl Cam: So that's the first category of things that I think we heard about. Is there any board comment on that? SBSD Owl Cam: The next… Category I think we heard about, was
018supporting all paths. SBSD Owl Cam: There was a… SBSD Owl Cam: One of the first things that we heard from a middle schooler was that they wanted to learn about real life. SBSD Owl Cam: And then we also heard, it's a quote I should have put in here, was another parent saying, well, hold on, you don't have to… you're still… SBSD Owl Cam: You know, young. You don't have to think about what your job is going to be when you're 11. SBSD Owl Cam: And that was heard loud and clear, I think, that we're not trying to get kids to make some kind of monumental decision before, but there's definitely discussion about what it's like to get out of the real world. SBSD Owl Cam: And finally, my interpretation is, a real focus on back
019to basics. SBSD Owl Cam: Here are some different quotes. I think one of the most interesting quotes is this one about a triangle. SBSD Owl Cam: Asked whether school prepares them for life. They said no, because I doubt any adult will ever SBSD Owl Cam: Ask me what a triangle is, right? SBSD Owl Cam: And I think that we have to hear feedback like this, and we have to say, well, maybe the issue here is that we haven't… SBSD Owl Cam: We haven't shown the importance of abstract knowledge. SBSD Owl Cam: You know, because there's real life skills, but there's also the ability to, like. SBSD Owl Cam: Maybe walk through a basic proof in math. SBSD Owl Cam: being… and that kind of being similar to being able to write 3 sentences in a
020paragraph and three paragraphs into an essay, maybe you might want to be able to do some basic proofs, so… SBSD Owl Cam: Anyway, there… we got a lot of feedback, hundreds of quotes and comments and recorded sessions, and the focus groups, we're going to be receiving a much more comprehensive report on the results of that. SBSD Owl Cam: Later on. So that's just a flavor of what we've heard so far. SBSD Owl Cam: Is there any comment from the ENS Committee? Michelle : I would add one category, and it's one that… Michelle : I think can be hard to talk about, because it's one of those things that's like, well, what do you mean? But I also think that we've started to see, in terms of public comment, what the public thinks that means, and
021that is around rigor. And to me, what I'm hearing in those comments is that Michelle : There's a strong sense among multiple stakeholder groups that the expectations Michelle : have been generally lowered, and examples of that have included things like proficiency-based Michelle : learning and grading, and the, the practice of giving at least 50% social promotion, those kinds of things. And it doesn't mean, you know, when we highlight these inputs from the community. Michelle : it doesn't mean anything in terms of it's a done deal, our ends are changing, they're going to be really autocratic, right? But what we want to be able to do is reflect back to the community what we're hearing from folks, and Michelle : I think those, those buckets that you shared, that jives with how I've read all of
022that input, but I would add that rigor with some of those beginnings of specification about what that means to folks. Michelle : And then I would just call out that in your all pathways slide, that there's really only one pathway discussed there, so… and I get the point, right? Like, we have de-emphasized, certain pathways. Michelle : in, you know, since I've been, in South Burlington since 2009, I think it's been very college-heavy focused. But I don't… I also don't want to suggest that there's anything about the work that we're doing that will mean that we don't care about college-bound students anymore. Michelle : Those are just my few comments. For now. There'll be more. SBSD Owl Cam: important. SBSD Owl Cam: sort of what Michelle said about the rigor of, like, tying it to your
023triangle comment as well, and maybe it's not so difficult to understand what are triangles, but I recall saying similar things about cosine or other sort of math things that I didn't quite get, but the part of SBSD Owl Cam: trying to get it, making your brain try to do those things, understand that. That's, like, the rigor that, even if you don't know what that means at the end, you know what it means to try to work through something and understand it on a deeper level, so… SBSD Owl Cam: I think that sort of ties in with what Rochelle was saying about records. SBSD Owl Cam: Any other board comments, Superintendent? SBSD Owl Cam: Alright. SBSD Owl Cam: Those are the same things I'm hearing, the same things that I heard, you know, 9 months ago
024when I started. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, so again, the next step is that the ENS Committee is going to start to draft up options for the board to consider over the course of the next few months. SBSD Owl Cam: And then, the goal is to, have a few more community forums once we have a more firm draft, and then we're aiming to have a third reading SBSD Owl Cam: and action on this on, I think it's September 17th, with the goal of then allowing the superintendent to develop a strategic plan that would then take effect in the following year. SBSD Owl Cam: Just want to say thank you guys for the work you're doing on that outside regular board meetings, guys. SBSD Owl Cam: Thanks for working, I appreciate it. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, thanks
025for putting that together, Shamis. Alright, we'll move on. So, the next action item is the election of a school board clerk. SBSD Owl Cam: So I'm wondering… There are a few… Volunteers. SBSD Owl Cam: I wasn't certain if… SBSD Owl Cam: I don't want to in any way, demote Jen, but I didn't know if we already have two officials, and if you have to have a clerk. SBSD Owl Cam: Is there a way that… That works out that Jameson Jens. SBSD Owl Cam: stay doing those things, I don't know. SBSD Owl Cam: Vice Chairman? Yeah, yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: That was just something that came to mind. I don't know if anyone else has the interest or capacity to be the clerk of the having to talk about doing that, or… Well, I mean, do
026we also need to have a rep, or would somebody be willing to be a rep to the VSBA? Because that was also something SBSD Owl Cam: And I know I do not have the bandwidth to do that. They're not tied together. Right. So anybody, so… we can decide that stuff, but like… So, but the point is, yeah, they're not tied together. Before, the clerk was the first… SBSD Owl Cam: Laura was the person who developed. Do you know what the VSBA tactic is? SBSD Owl Cam: I do not. SBSD Owl Cam: I know there's, well… SBSD Owl Cam: If I recall correctly, there's… there's routine calls that they… that there's participation in, there's emails that are communicated out to… that are cascaded. There's an annual meeting, I believe she was president of the annual meeting.
027SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: I could be interested in… Goodbye. SBSD Owl Cam: The BSPA. The BSPA. And you're saying that as a way of saying that you would probably prefer to do that than the clerk? SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah. You're not volunteer for Clark. No. SBSD Owl Cam: Well, I would entertain a motion to make SBSD Owl Cam: Jen Lawrence, the clerk of the South Burlington School Board. Well, so is that… I mean, that's fine, but I guess the question is, is that… Exclusive? SBSD Owl Cam: That's refund. SBSD Owl Cam: What did you just ask? Whether it's exclusive with the vice chair role. Oh, oh, right, if it's even… if we're allowed to do this, I don't know. I'm just looking up all the responsibilities for it, too. SBSD Owl Cam:
028You know, posting board agendas, coordinating meeting logistics. SBSD Owl Cam: A lot of that is done by Julon enough. I'm just having a conversation before I… I think it's a very good idea to talk about. Yeah. …of the board proceedings, keeping contracts, bids, and other legal documents on file. I don't think those are things that actually happen. Ensuring the board adheres to state open meeting laws. SBSD Owl Cam: and typically applying parliamentary procedures like Robert Rules of Order. Robert's Rules of Order. I remember that SBSD Owl Cam: Laura would have a lot of objections to things. I don't know that I have as good a grasp of that as perhaps others on the board. SBSD Owl Cam: Let's say. I think, also, I remember when we were talking about this the first time around. SBSD
029Owl Cam: Or, at some point, that sometimes the clerk needs to sign checks. SBSD Owl Cam: Oh, right, coming in and sidetracks. What? SBSD Owl Cam: I'm sorry, what'd you say? Well, yeah, so generally what I've seen is that there are contracts that we sign at the meetings, but then sometimes Laura would get called to the Delina's office. SBSD Owl Cam: on a Friday, to go and sign things. Right. SBSD Owl Cam: Right, and I don't know if those are sometimes time-sensitive, if it's like, you have to be able to leave what you're doing to come and sign a check at SBSD Owl Cam: So what are we doing? Will we be getting rid of the vice chair position, and having a clerk position, or it's like, it's two? I'd say the vice chair probably
030can't know. This is just conversation, Jen, sorry. I'd say this motion is hanging by a thread. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, just… Michelle : One… one com… I think it would be good to clarify what the… Michelle : the expected role of the clerk is, because I think Michelle : maybe what we've had, and I'm certainly not an expert on this, but I did consult Title 16. And the way it's written in Vermont law, the role of the clerk is actually very specific and very constrained to maintaining the Michelle : the proceedings, right? So, responsible for, basically the record of public meetings. And really not much more than that, and I know our tradition within our district, and probably others, has been more expansive, but I think Michelle : the idea of the clerk being responsible
031for Robert's Rules of Order, I'm not sure that's right, but I'm also not an authority on this subject. So, Michelle : to the extent that somebody might be thinking, I need to know Robert's Rules of Orders, I think Seamus needs to know Robert's Rules of Orders. I don't know that the clerk would need to. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I think one reason that it makes sense for Jen to be the clerk is that she has repeatedly expressed interest in the website, in having a scoreboard, in having SBSD Owl Cam: Visibility for the public into our proceedings. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I mean, there's things here like ensuring that minutes are posted to the district's website and are made available for public inspection within 5 days of meetings. SBSD Owl Cam: I do. I don't… In
032my office. Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: I think that was her responsibility that Laura was taking care of. SBSD Owl Cam: Or Tim before her. SBSD Owl Cam: I don't know. I do know you just sign off on the minutes, the clerk and the… SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, the chair. SBSD Owl Cam: Well, there's a motion on the table. SBSD Owl Cam: Would anybody like to second it? SBSD Owl Cam: So I can. Dan seconds. SBSD Owl Cam: Now we have discussion. SBSD Owl Cam: Oh, wait. We already did… okay, sorry, we have… yeah, no, no, no. Somebody has to move. Nobody's moved yet. Dan moves. I'm sorry, does anybody second it? SBSD Owl Cam: Awesome. Okay, Alyssa seconds. Now, discussion. SBSD Owl Cam: So would anybody else like to do that? I'd like to hear
033what Jeff thinks about that idea. I don't want to be over here, like, oh, I'll do this, I'll do this. If somebody else, we're spreading… Do you see my argument about the website and the… SBSD Owl Cam: I have a passion about getting that out, for sure. Yes. SBSD Owl Cam: But I'm also curious about your concerns, because… SBSD Owl Cam: how you feel about the idea. SBSD Owl Cam: I mean, I just would want to be sure that you're doing the moral justice, that you understand exactly what's required. SBSD Owl Cam: And I think that is something, too, on the new website, as the website evolves, like, we have, like, kind of clarity about what these rules are, so that people know what the description is and what you're supposed to be doing. I
034think that's really important. The point makes itself. SBSD Owl Cam: I guess, would Jen… I'm curious if this would mean that Jen would have to… SBSD Owl Cam: take on a much more responsibility than she already has. I don't want to be… like, a double role of any that would be potentially responsible. Well, worst case scenario, we're going to hopefully be bringing a new person on. SBSD Owl Cam: to the board, and we're going to have to be… are we doing… I don't know if we're going to be doing elections tonight, not necessarily… Well, you guys can do it right now. It's going to be the same way as last year. Interview. SBSD Owl Cam: anybody who's interested, they would not see it until March. Okay. Well, I know, I was thinking we're not going
035to necessarily reorganize the board at that time, just because we've got a new board. You can reorganize whenever you want. I was gonna say, if you take on this role, and then… SBSD Owl Cam: we go through some months, and you feel like, this is just too much, it needs to be split, then we can split. I think it'll be fine. Yeah, I think there's a lot of spiritual alignment there, and we'll see where it goes. Okay. All those in favor? SBSD Owl Cam: Aye. Michelle : Aye. SBSD Owl Cam: The motion passes. Jen Lawrence is the clerk of this office. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item on the agenda is the school board vacancy, so we are actually going to be taking action on this at our next meeting, so I don't think we
036need to discuss anything other than the fact that we have to get Front Porch Forum, SBSD Owl Cam: Facebook… Although I do that in my personal capacity. Website. Website. SBSD Owl Cam: probably email everybody. I can… It's not posted yet, right? No, it's not posted yet. Do we know when we post it? I will do that this week. And you have all the information from prior posting, so you remember how to do that? Okay. SBSD Owl Cam: Where's that gonna mean? SBSD Owl Cam: He's gonna do it. Baby steps. SBSD Owl Cam: So, any other… anything else? So, we're not taking action on school board vacancies, is that fine with the board? SBSD Owl Cam: Other than we have to get everything out. I just mean no formal action. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, the next
037item on the agenda is Policy F5, which is the third reading of the wellness policy. SBSD Owl Cam: We have discussed this extensively in the last few meetings. We have had two presenters twice. SBSD Owl Cam: I will call it up on my screen, and we can vote on it. SBSD Owl Cam: Superintendent, would you like to say anything about the F5 wellness policy? Just a lot of gratitude for the folks that worked on this policy. They've been doing it for more than a year, and we actually met with our administrative team yesterday in anticipation of the board approving it to start getting them on, on SBSD Owl Cam: Line with what we need to… what that means in practice as we enter the school year in the fall. SBSD Owl Cam: Good evening. SBSD
038Owl Cam: Just to add to Joe's point, we have been working on this policy for over a year, but the important point that I want to make is that, really, a lot of this work wouldn't have been done if we didn't have our partner from the Vermont Department of Health, Jess LeClaire, who was with us at the last meeting. SBSD Owl Cam: She's been incredible and has guided us so… she's just been so helpful through this that I just want to give her the kudos that she deserves. She doesn't charge… there's been no charge, but all the time, the many hours that she's spent with us on-site and remotely working on this policy. She does this work for other school districts as well, but she's just been incredibly helpful, and I just wanted to give
039her recognition for that, so thank you. She's been here, I think, two meetings, she's been here. SBSD Owl Cam: Talk about after-hours work, right? Well, I would entertain a motion to approve Policy F5 wellness, as presented in the board materials. SBSD Owl Cam: I'll move. SBSD Owl Cam: I second. Jen moves, Emily seconds. Any discussion? And this is an action item, so we would be accepting public comment. SBSD Owl Cam: Everybody online. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, all those in favor? Aye. Michelle : Aye. SBSD Owl Cam: motion. SBSD Owl Cam: The next item on the agenda is Policy F20, student use of cell phones. This is also a third reading. SBSD Owl Cam: bottom screen here. SBSD Owl Cam: Superintendent, do you have any comment on this? Just a reminder that this is the,
040state model policy that we wanted to adopt, because anything else would be more, strict, and we don't want to go more strict. We want to have, the principals and the staff have the, SBSD Owl Cam: Flexibility to make the procedures run as they see fit, instead of tying their hands, so… SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I mean, we're required to adopt a policy, and if we do not adopt a policy, we, under law, we are… we fall under the state model policy, so… SBSD Owl Cam: Either way, this is what we get. What's that? Either way, this is what we get. Unless you want to make it stricter, then this is what we'll get. So I would not recommend you make it stricter. And so the policy that we're adopting for student use of cell phones
041is bell-to-bell, no interaction with their cell phone, except for SBSD Owl Cam: A couple small exceptions here. Well, this will give us is latitude in, what do we do with the foam? Do we allow students to keep them in their locker, or in their pocket, or whatever, as opposed to, do we have to spend money to buy those little cases that they put them in, or whatnot, so… SBSD Owl Cam: And that'll be discussed at the, the building level, SBSD Owl Cam: Because we want to make it what's going to make the most sense, for the building, so they can function. SBSD Owl Cam: Is there any comment on this? SBSD Owl Cam: Before we act on it. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, I would entertain a motion to approve policy at 20 student use
042of cell phones as presented in the board materials. Dan moves. I'll second. Jen seconds. Any discussion is an action item, so we will be taking holder comment. SBSD Owl Cam: This is sort of off-topic, but I was just wondering if the new reps or the current have any… SBSD Owl Cam: comment about the cell phone policy since it's been implemented this year, and it'll change a little bit, but I'm just… since we're on topic with that. If you think it should be stricter, now's the time. I saw one interesting thing about, like, the cell phone policy that I feel like, didn't, like, catch my eye, because I know it was called a cell phone policy. SBSD Owl Cam: But I also know it means non-school-issued devices, which includes, like, laptops and stuff. I was wondering,
043like, SBSD Owl Cam: would be left the same? Would this affect the way that we manage, like, school-issued devices? Because I think that's in this, SBSD Owl Cam: The district policy as well. SBSD Owl Cam: it would… I mean, it would prohibit personal devices, it would not prohibit school issue. Well, I mean, I'm sorry, not all non-school issue, right? Sorry. Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: No. So you can bring your MacBook from home? SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, that's the only thing, I mean, obviously, state policy, not a lot of wiggle room there. It's just… SBSD Owl Cam: this will… I feel like students will have a harder time with this than their phones being taken, because this year especially, after, like, certain updates on the… our school laptops, they can be unusual at times. There's not
044many, what's the word? SBSD Owl Cam: when you can't go get one from the library. Yeah, not a loaner to sell. You're a laptop's not working. I like that you guys are talking about this, because I think this will give you a good opportunity to participate in the legislative process, because often legislators enact bills that don't necessarily make sense, and it takes them being put into action when they realize SBSD Owl Cam: the mistakes they made, so I would love to hear your continued updates on this as we go through. SBSD Owl Cam: And maybe, you know, we call our reps, say, listen, we're not telling you to get rid of it, but SBSD Owl Cam: Can we do this? What can we do that? We get some flexibility. Some students have emailed already. That's
045right. Yeah, yeah, that's good. SBSD Owl Cam: I'm crazy, sometimes. Always. SBSD Owl Cam: Well, I don't love this policy, but… SBSD Owl Cam: I think it makes more sense, because, like, past years, we haven't been able to use our phones in school, but we could use, like, laptops, iPads, and other devices, which… SBSD Owl Cam: like, I see students with iPads all the time, and the iPad is just a phone with a bigger screen, and it doesn't make sense during… it does everything that a phone does, so I think this policy makes more sense. SBSD Owl Cam: hash my work around the iPad in every day. Here we go. SBSD Owl Cam: Wipe in your headphones. Good series. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I think, actually, I didn't realize that so many kids were using
046their personal computers, and so that… and iPads, so that's… SBSD Owl Cam: Interesting. Thank you for sharing. SBSD Owl Cam: it'll… it'll see how it's implemented, we'll see how it's implemented. We'll see how it goes. I would be surprised if it stays in its current form for more than a year, to be honest with you. SBSD Owl Cam: Well, there we go. SBSD Owl Cam: So, we have a motion on the table. All those in favor? Aye. SBSD Owl Cam: The motion passed Policy F20, student use of cell phones, is approved. SBSD Owl Cam: The next two items on the action item list SBSD Owl Cam: Monitoring Report 2.2, Treatment of Staff, and Monitor Report 2.1, Treatment of Students. We're gonna wait on those. We discussed this earlier in the meeting. We're just looking… we
047are looking for more data sources, to provide the board with SBSD Owl Cam: Longitudinal data, which basically, what that means is… SBSD Owl Cam: Often board members don't really know about a particular topic, and so the best thing to do is to basically tell us, like, are things getting better or worse? SBSD Owl Cam: And longitudinal data meets data over time, and so we're basically saying, well, wherever we were last year, are we better or are we worse? And so that was what I had discussed with the superintendent, is just the importance of SBSD Owl Cam: Giving us that, as non-expert civilians on the sport, giving us that safety net of understanding. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, the next item on the agenda is the superintendent's report, year in review. Yeah, so this is our final
048board meeting of the school year, so I wanted to take a few minutes to offer a brief year in review with the board. I started working in South Burlington on September 12th as the interim superintendent. SBSD Owl Cam: So this is really a review of the last 9 months, not really the full school year, and it's a review mainly of my work and the work that the central office team. SBSD Owl Cam: This is not about all the great things our students have done, or our teachers have done, or principals, or staff. It's really just to give you a sense of what's been going on here in the central office that you brought me on in September. SBSD Owl Cam: When I did arrive, my first priority was to listen and learn. I met with
049students, staff, families, administrators, community partners, city leaders, and board members. SBSD Owl Cam: Through that 3 questions process, I held 33 different listening sessions with 316 participants, and I asked those three questions. What do you like about South Burlington schools? What can we do better? And what do you expect from the superintendent? I think that feedback has shaped a lot of the work that we've done since then, and I know it's shaping future work as you go through the ENS policies. SBSD Owl Cam: We also work in to strengthen our communication with the community and the staff. I began sending regular board updates to the board, started the Wednesday Wolf stories to connect with families and the community. I launched the Full Moon How newsletter for the staff. SBSD Owl Cam: I started the Goodnight
050Little Wolves for our younger students and families, and began a TV show podcast. SBSD Owl Cam: in the know with Dr. Joe through Town Meeting TV, and Momin and Ali were my first guests, and they had the highest rate, rated episodes so far, so congratulations. SBSD Owl Cam: We also started the process just recently of redesigning the district website with Aptogy, including a staff and family survey, with the goal of making our website easier to use, more welcoming, and more helpful, and hopefully that work should be done before the school starts again in the fall. SBSD Owl Cam: We also created new structures for collaboration and student voice. The SB PAC, that's the group of principals and central office leaders. We meet every other week, and that had not happened before. The Curriculum Advisory Council
051launched this year that Nicole oversees. SBSD Owl Cam: We created the Superintendent Advisory Council so middle and high school students have a direct voice in district global conversations, and I thought we did a really good job strengthening our work with city leaders, South Burlington Police, the South Burlington City Center Collaborative, Rotary Club, and other community partners. SBSD Owl Cam: The board did important governance work this year. You remember we held a board retreat in December or January, and we did policy governance training, we began meaningful work on updating the ENS policies. SBSD Owl Cam: The work included in bringing student voice into the conversation, and using the listening tour and survey feedback to help inform the board's discussion about these long-term outcomes we want for students. SBSD Owl Cam: This was also a significant year
052for budgeting and long-term planning, especially to a guy new to Vermont who had never gone through that process before. I learned a ton. SBSD Owl Cam: The FY27 budget process was difficult, and it required some real reductions. We did add clearer budget information to the website, we included videos and a tax calculator. We worked to communicate more directly about the choices in front of the district. SBSD Owl Cam: We also began longer-range work, including the NESDAQ Best Use Study, SBSD Owl Cam: just a brief update on that is they finally got some draft reports to us. We're meeting with them on Monday to go over them, so within probably the next month, you should have the results of their work, so I'm looking forward to that. We are doing the South Point Relocation plan, so,
053SBSD Owl Cam: the central office relocation, we are moving to a building on South… SBSD Owl Cam: Children Road, and the South Point will be in the upstairs, starting in the fall. And of course, we had that early severance plan. That was… none of that was easy work, but it all is connected to sustainability, trying to operate more efficiently so we can make the best use of public tax dollars. SBSD Owl Cam: Instructionally, we continued work around professional learning communities, universal screeners, eduClimber, continuous improvement plans, literacy requirements, curriculum alignment, and the use of federal funds to support school improvement. SBSD Owl Cam: We launched outdoor kindergarten programming in all three elementary schools this year. We continued planning around multilingual learners, student belonging, panorama data, anti-racism professional learning, and social-emotional supports. SBSD Owl Cam: At the
054high school, we also began important conversations about rigor, introduced the AP seminar class, career and tech ed opportunities with the possible HVAC satellite program with Essex Tech. SBSD Owl Cam: We also saw meaningful student-centered partnerships. Project SEARCH at UVM Medical Center is a powerful example of helping our young adults with disabilities build real work skills and confidence. SBSD Owl Cam: Workforce in Motion will create additional career opportunities for students, and South Point students, of course, continue to have rich learning and community service experiences. Our students did great work. They excelled in academics, athletics, the arts, leadership, service, and school spirit in ways that deserve to be celebrated. SBSD Owl Cam: At the same time, there are challenges this year. Special education compliance has required significant attention. SBSD Owl Cam: We have been identified for long-standing
055on compliance in initial evaluations and post-secondary transition planning. Those findings, of course, they predate Nicole and me, but they are ours to fix. SBSD Owl Cam: We are working with the Agency of Education on training, root cause analysis, corrective action, planning, and long-term systems, so the compliance is not dependent on individual effort. SBSD Owl Cam: But built into the structures of how we operate as a district. SBSD Owl Cam: We also, if you remember, early on in my tenure, we dealt with significant safety and operational issues. Remember, Rick Marcotte? We worked as a city and police department on playground and perimeter safety, including fencing, lighting, brush clearing, some patrols, and daily checks. SBSD Owl Cam: We responded to the federal immigration enforcement action on Dorset Street. Different student safety concerns, unauthorized after-hours entry at the
056high school, and other issues that required calm coordination among schools, central office, police, city officials, and families. SBSD Owl Cam: This was also a year of leadership transition and organizational strain. We lost two members of our central office leadership team during the year. Ken in communications left in November. Monica in the DEI office left a couple of months ago. Ken's position was absorbed by me. SBSD Owl Cam: And Monica's work was spread among several administrators. Also, Kristen Romick has been on a long-term absence in the student services throughout… for most of the year, which had created additional pressure on the team and pushed, really, an inordinate amount of work onto Nicole. SBSD Owl Cam: We also navigated administrative traditions at Rick Marcotte, at Orchard, at Tuttle, and at the high school. The team who remains
057has been great. They've adjusted, they've covered essential responsibilities, and the work keeps moving. SBSD Owl Cam: But that level of transition is a really important context for the year. We really were working on a skeleton crew throughout the year, and I still think we got a whole lot of stuff done. SBSD Owl Cam: So, as I look back, I see a district that has accomplished a great deal while also facing some real issues, honestly. We have improved communication, we've expanded student voice, we've strengthened partnerships, we've begun long-term planning, we've worked through a difficult budget, addressed safety concerns. SBSD Owl Cam: and started the hard work of rebuilding special ed. There's still a lot for us to do. I am grateful for our community, our staff, our administrators, family, board members. SBSD Owl Cam: South Browling
058has many strengths, and this year has also made clear that we need to improve. Both things can be true, and both will guide the work that we have ahead. SBSD Owl Cam: as I sat down and put that together, I thought, boy, 9 months, it seems like 5 years. We've done a lot. And we have a great team here, it's a lean team, it's a great team, and we're excited. Every day, we say, there's so much work to do. There's so much work to do. SBSD Owl Cam: But for years, in 3 years, just imagine how, you know, we're gonna be glory. We're gonna be bored over here. We won't be, but we hope. SBSD Owl Cam: So that's the wrap-up. Pretty, pretty busy school year. Great update. Nothing with kids and nothing with staff
059in there. They've done a lot of stuff, too. So, Joe, what would you say is your, is your highlight? What is one thing that you didn't expect coming into this district that has been… SBSD Owl Cam: a great surprise to highlight for you. Oh. SBSD Owl Cam: I don't know if it's a surprise, it's… for me, it's always people, right? For me, it's people. The people that we have working here, going to school here, the community members, I can say, SBSD Owl Cam: in all sincerity, that I've never worked… my 34th year in the world of public education, I've never worked in a district so focused on public education, and so supportive of public education. SBSD Owl Cam: I know that we, as… or you as a board, have great discussions and… I wouldn't say
060arguments, but disagreements about how things are, and how they're supposed to be. SBSD Owl Cam: Honestly, it's refreshing to me, because all of your discussions are about education and what should we do, whereas in other places, it's about, should we fire the basketball coach, or should we, you know, what should be, SBSD Owl Cam: you know, just things that really don't impact how schools are supposed to run. I've been really, really, coming to Vermont, it's been a culture shock in many ways. SBSD Owl Cam: Well… SBSD Owl Cam: Very, very good. Some ways, not quite as good, so I'm finding those out, too. But mostly, it's been really, really, really good. SBSD Owl Cam: Yep. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I just want to say thank you to you, and the whole central office team, and
061the staff, and the faculty, and the kids, and everybody for working so hard this year, and you really highlighted some of the challenges that you guys are facing, and with fewer people, but SBSD Owl Cam: People who are dedicated, working hard, and wanting to move forward, SBSD Owl Cam: And I really appreciate that. I've been on the board for just a little over a year now, and definitely feel really proud to be a part of all of this, so thank you. Thank you. You know, we do the board updates every week, and all this stuff, none of this is new to you, but I think when you… SBSD Owl Cam: Like, it's, like, at the end of the year. I always read the end-of-the-year things in the newspaper or whatever, and it's like, when you
062put it all together, it's like, man, that's a lot. It's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of stuff. SBSD Owl Cam: So… SBSD Owl Cam: Well, props to you. I echo what Emily said. Props to you and to the team, and for taking all of our questions, and… SBSD Owl Cam: being so patient and providing information and helping to get clarity on things, and I'm really excited about what's coming next, and I'm really excited about the call on Monday. I think it's Monday, the website, and… SBSD Owl Cam: really seeing that, I think that's going to be huge. I know there's going to be some great info there. And mapping things for the community, so people can see, you know, monitoring reports and scorecard, and all these things that we've talked about, and now
063we finally… it's like the rubber's starting to meet the road, and I'm really excited about that. I do. It's going to be great. Bright future. SBSD Owl Cam: So, thank you for, indulging me in that item. SBSD Owl Cam: And by the way, and I do have all of the communication outreaches, and the Wolf's stories, and Full Moon Howl, all of those. Yeah, when times are tough, over-communicate. Over-communicate. I did have the pleasure, I didn't tell you this, I don't think I put it in my board update here. Last Saturday, the library invited me over for the summer reading kickoff series, so Wolfie reads and I, SBSD Owl Cam: over a lot, and I went… I had my wine shirt on, and my Charlie Brown Crocs, and we read the couple's story to all the
064kids there, and the puppet, and it was just… SBSD Owl Cam: that kind of relationship, I think, is really, really important, so it's fun. That's awesome. So does, we'll see, does he give autographs? Only times, yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: Yep. SBSD Owl Cam: Is there any comment from you guys? That is a lot of communication to take on. You were listing it, so I do appreciate all the… the various different… SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you for parents, teachers… I've never had one complaint in my career that you communicate too much, right? Just, you can't communicate too much. SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you. SBSD Owl Cam: So I am. SBSD Owl Cam: Alright, so the next item on the agenda is a consent agenda. SBSD Owl Cam: So… the only thing on it… is, higher. SBSD
065Owl Cam: Is there any objection? SBSD Owl Cam: still don't hire. SBSD Owl Cam: Hearing none… It is passed by consent. SBSD Owl Cam: It's an action item. SBSD Owl Cam: But it doesn't say… it's just, we can pass out consent. No, proposition. SBSD Owl Cam: Any overcomment? Just… Fox is checked. SBSD Owl Cam: Nobody on the… alright. SBSD Owl Cam: So the next item is setting agenda for July 8th. SBSD Owl Cam: So… SBSD Owl Cam: I think we should… we're pretty early here, we're more than an hour early, but I think we should spend 5 minutes on agenda planning. There's a lot of stuff coming up. SBSD Owl Cam: I'd also appreciate it if you guys could remind me of things that I'm supposed to do that's not on the agenda, like posting
066the vacancy. SBSD Owl Cam: So, I know that we have to do the BSVA collection. SBSD Owl Cam: July 8th is the only scheduled board meeting for the month, so we are… we absolutely have to have that many meetings, so I hope people can clear their calendar, make sure we're there. I personally will be in Ohio, but I will… I'll be here. SBSD Owl Cam: Awesome. Yeah, I'll be here virtually also. Nicole will be here with my seat, but we have a lot of stuff that we need to… a lot of people to get hired, a lot of, instruction stuff that we need to take care of, a lot of bills today, so… Okay. I think will we be ready for our, SBSD Owl Cam: because it's in July, I don't want to push into
067the next… I don't want to wait till August until we're monitoring reports. I think we can get those done by July. Okay, so, 2.2, 2.1, there's also the election of the… SBSD Owl Cam: board member to the regional CSA, or CESA. SBSD Owl Cam: Lisa? Yeah, a few years ago. So, SBSD Owl Cam: I'm gonna check with you, Joe, not right now, when that has to be done by, and if we can… and if there's any penalty for doing it early, or whatever. Yeah. The governor has assigned the SBSD Owl Cam: I think… so, yeah, I wanted to talk about… SBSD Owl Cam: the next review future agenda item, it's not necessarily for July 8th, but there are quite a bit SBSD Owl Cam: policies that were signed on June D. SBSD Owl Cam: And
068I just don't know what that looks like. SBSD Owl Cam: School of Advising. SBSD Owl Cam: I know, like, with the wellness policy, you guys created it and read it to us, like, we should sit there. So there are quite a few new policies, that we need to talk about. Okay, so what I'm hearing you say is kind of like a legislative update? Yeah, that's a… SBSD Owl Cam: You as a new board member, Oh, man. SBSD Owl Cam: I just sent you the information that we did before, so I boarded it to you, so you don't wash your little birds at the top of your head. SBSD Owl Cam: I agree. SBSD Owl Cam: Alright, so what I have for June, or July 8th. SBSD Owl Cam: is Monitor Report 2.2, Treatment of Staff,
069Monitor Report 2.1, Treatment of Students and Community. SBSD Owl Cam: And then the four items that we could decide to put on there, well, and board member elections, so that's three things. SBSD Owl Cam: So then, do we want to do the BSBA election? SBSD Owl Cam: I feel like that's gonna be pretty straightforward, and it'll enable us to move. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, so we'll keep the BSBA election, and then legislative update. Alyssa, do you feel like we should talk about that at our next meeting, or push it online? I think we should push it. I don't think that we need to talk about it in July. It seems like it's a lot. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, so maybe we'll talk about that as the one after that. And then I will check with
070you, Joe, about, whether… about the… any requirements around the new education bill, basically. Okay. Just new education bill stuff in general. SBSD Owl Cam: And then, I would imagine, as part of the superintendent update, you'll probably have information on the NESCO study and information. That's right, yeah, that's a great point. I expect that we will be running into SBSD Owl Cam: presented to you, you know, then. We need to appoint someone within 30 days of the governor signing the bill. I don't know if you signed the bill. We don't believe you'll sign it yet. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, all in my favorites. Right. SBSD Owl Cam: And there are two things. One is the CISA, the CISA rep, and that can be the superintendent, and I'm going to ask you to respectfully please consider me
071to do that. And the other is for the… SBSD Owl Cam: Consolidation group, which needs to be a board member. I would like that to be a board member. SBSD Owl Cam: Ohio had things very similar to CSIS, so I think… I think I could give some pretty good perspective on that. SBSD Owl Cam: absence of 10 that I don't need to work on in order to be registered. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah. September 1st. October 22nd. SBSD Owl Cam: But I think we're probably due for a… just a up… SBSD Owl Cam: Here's the thing about the legisl… pushing the legisl… we should push the legislative update. SBSD Owl Cam: because Monitor Report 2.2 and 2.1 are so important, and we haven't had them yet. But on the other hand. SBSD Owl Cam: Like, getting
072an update on the legislative SBSD Owl Cam: requirements that have been imposed on us is probably… Yes. …relatively urgent. So I'd say… S… SBSD Owl Cam: S227, enact relating to creating immigration protocols in Vermont schools, I think that needs to be in effect by August 1st, I think, if I'm… SBSD Owl Cam: remember it correctly. It needs to be in effect, just to download by September. SBSD Owl Cam: piggyback on what we should do and what needs… what takes precedent. One other concern I was sort of having as we were talking about needing to push 2.2 and 2.1 is that SBSD Owl Cam: If I recall, there was concern last year about doing it after the school year was over, because then it doesn't really include the staff and the public quite as much. SBSD
073Owl Cam: I'm not saying… SBSD Owl Cam: it's not ideal to wait until September, or our first meeting in August to do it, but I don't know… SBSD Owl Cam: that's… that was a concern last year that I don't want to not bring to the table. Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: I think… probably just have to chalk it up to… SBSD Owl Cam: the transition and how difficult it's been to get all the data. I understand, I totally understand that. I'm just wanting to make sure that point is brought up, is that… SBSD Owl Cam: The staff is gone, the people are on vaca… people are on vacation, they can't come to the meeting to say, well. SBSD Owl Cam: I really want to be able to access this, and I don't feel like I have
074been able to. And maybe even doing it in the summertime is… SBSD Owl Cam: treatment of the teacher… students and families when… are we not… is that blatantly not, like, including them if we do it over the summer instead of during the school year? Yeah. Is there another report that we could… or two that we could substitute in at that time to help us? I mean, I know it makes complete that? SBSD Owl Cam: We… specifically, the last year, we didn't want to push it back. SBSD Owl Cam: Because, as she just stated… They pushed it out of a time when they'd be able to be present. Yeah, most people are on vacation, or, you know… SBSD Owl Cam: So, we deserve. SBSD Owl Cam: Something we could put in its place and push those
075to… SBSD Owl Cam: The, end of August, beginning of September. SBSD Owl Cam: Let me look at this. So, I don't… SBSD Owl Cam: necessary… so it will have been a full year since we monitored it, and I think it is important to monitor it just in pursuant… just as part of our governance. But I think maybe what we're saying is maybe we should do, like, a… SBSD Owl Cam: another, even though it's strange, maybe we should do another presentation of it in September. Revisit it. Why do it twice? Why won't just… Well, the reason to do it twice is because I don't want a year and a half to go by. It wouldn't be a year and a half. We did it June of last year. It'd be 14 months. SBSD Owl Cam: If
076you… There are a couple. What I don't want to do is get into a cycle where you're constantly doing these two over the summer. SBSD Owl Cam: we are supposed… there are 3 other bonding reports scheduled for July, or supposed to be on in July. One is communication and support to the board, that's the direct inspection one that the board SBSD Owl Cam: There's, that we just relatively recently. SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, we did it, I think, to catch up, and now we need to… that is, like, the first one for the year. Emergency superintendent succession that's easy, financial condition activities. SBSD Owl Cam: That… that may be the last one of that. I mean, we've talked about SBSD Owl Cam: actually, I think July was our plan, Jim Ribb, about when we were talking
077about, SBSD Owl Cam: starting to do monthly financial reports. We were talking about July, weren't we? SBSD Owl Cam: For the first one? Yeah, for August. I think August. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so there's a… I mean, because 2.4 is scheduled to be done in July, too, but my hope is that we then stop doing those four times a year, and replace it with… SBSD Owl Cam: a monthly report by Jean Marie and her team that answers all those questions, so they're a little shorter. SBSD Owl Cam: And more frequently. Well, if there's something that we could put in that doesn't put pressure on anybody to get something out in the next couple of weeks that we could put in, would I just… SBSD Owl Cam: I don't want to, like I just said, I don't
078want to get in the habit of doing these two during a time in the summer when most staff and students and parents aren't around, and I think it's… SBSD Owl Cam: For lack of a better way, putting it a waste of time to do it now, and then do it two months from now. SBSD Owl Cam: I hear that. And it's… we're not doing it a year and a half, it's… it's 14 months. SBSD Owl Cam: Between the last time it was done. SBSD Owl Cam: And that was… we did it in June of last year. If we… if we do it the end of August. SBSD Owl Cam: Right, but I just… I hear that argument. I know that the board really wanted to monitor that in April of last year, and then it
079was very hard for us to deal with SBSD Owl Cam: And so, it's a hard… it's a very important report, obviously, and from a… like, I… I… like, normally I'm all about the political side of this, but there's also the governance side of this, and I think we don't… SBSD Owl Cam: it's… we can have our cake and eat it, too. We can do the report as soon as possible, as soon as it's ready, and then it's just… it's… SBSD Owl Cam: it'll be rehashing it for those of us who have seen it already, but I think that for the staff. SBSD Owl Cam: We can do it again, and for students and parents, we can do it again, and that won't be that much… SBSD Owl Cam: And so we're basically paying for SBSD
080Owl Cam: doing the right governance thing by spending a little bit more time in September, and that would be my preference. I think we could just SBSD Owl Cam: I mean, because, yeah, we were supposed to do it April of last year, we did it in June, it was suggested we do it in August, and we didn't want to do it in August because SBSD Owl Cam: nobody was around. Nobody's around in July. I mean, you look at tonight, there's nobody here, there's nobody online. I would rather… this is just my two cents. I would rather do this SBSD Owl Cam: just before, like, the end of August or the beginning of September. I don't… SBSD Owl Cam: There are none scheduled for August, except one of the financial ones, and there's only one scheduled
081for September, which was Treatment of Community. SBSD Owl Cam: I thought the July meeting was just for consent agenda, like, to get bills paid, people hired, things like that. And I'm just curious… I think historically, it has been, yeah, and yeah. This board has been… SBSD Owl Cam: much more active than Salesforce. So that's changed. Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: I think they're both good points. Like, I totally agree that we need to, and as I said, because I said originally, I don't want to push this back anymore, and then I started to realize, wait, July, and it still became last year. So, I can see your point, Seamus, even though it is a little redundant. SBSD Owl Cam: Over-communicate. Yeah, it doesn't really allow people to… SBSD Owl Cam: Comment while we're doing it, which…
082is problematic. SBSD Owl Cam: But, but I would like to somehow merge the… SBSD Owl Cam: take care of both the governance and including the community. So, I don't know. Now that I brought this up, I don't have to answer it. So, SBSD Owl Cam: Well, we can just do a simple straw poll here. SBSD Owl Cam: Jen, do you want to do the Modern Report 2.2 and 2.1? SBSD Owl Cam: next meeting, and then also once the teachers are back, and the students are back, and the parents are back? I would suggest, actually, I think that you're potentially going to have more involvement and engagement if you have those folks that are here that have the opportunity to go in. SBSD Owl Cam: And I remember that was one of the discussions that we
083had had last year, is we did not want to do treatment of staff in the summer. For that very reason, is because we need to have people here to have the opportunity to conduct. So I think doing it in the middle of… in the middle of the summer is probably not… Okay, so we've got two… I would suggest. We've got two people for delaying monitoring. Although I do want to make one point, and that is they were on the agenda for today. SBSD Owl Cam: That is true. So, there might not be the same level of interest in participating in it. I didn't get any emails about it from the community, weighing in, so… SBSD Owl Cam: Perhaps, you know, perhaps it's not actually that. I just, yeah, I don't want that to my query.
084So, right, so we've got two people who are clearly in favor of moving it back to this SBSD Owl Cam: Moving it back to the fall. I'm in favor of keeping it now and also doing it in the fall, so it's up to Alyssa, Michelle, and Emily what… what to do. SBSD Owl Cam: Michelle, do you have any thoughts? Michelle : Breathlessly transferring gates. Fall is my vote. I don't think we need to do it twice. Michelle : And I agree, we need to have folks there. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, so we'll do… so actually, we are saying that we are going to do 2.2 and 2.1, SBSD Owl Cam: In September. SBSD Owl Cam: September? SBSD Owl Cam: end of August, beginning of this year, we… SBSD Owl Cam: We'll be ready. Second August
085meeting? August 19th. Staff aren't back. Staff aren't back, I would say. September 2nd. Yeah. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay, so we're moving 2.2 and 2.1 to September 2nd. That's September 2nd. Okay. So I think in that case, I think maybe we should put the legislative update next meeting. SBSD Owl Cam: And I have forwarded both… I forwarded all of you that, SBSD Owl Cam: VSAs, things, and I think that's a good resource, too. Yeah, we should… it'd be great to synthesize and just kind of… SBSD Owl Cam: Yeah, I'll see what's the whole… what we need to do for that. Okay. Yeah, I mean, the one thing that I want to be careful of is not, you know, even the perception that, hey, we're not doing some of this work, that we are continuing to progress
086and move things forward, and there are other things that we are… SBSD Owl Cam: Getting in place and taken care of if we… if we push these two back, right? SBSD Owl Cam: So… SBSD Owl Cam: And I would think, too, a lot of it's going to be providing updates as well, I hope, on the website, and some of the monitoring and scorecards, some of the other work that we're doing, so we actually can say, like, here's our benchmark, and here's how we're improving. So when we do get around to those, we've got, you know. SBSD Owl Cam: A lot of good information on the show. SBSD Owl Cam: So, we… oh, and also, according to the schedule published on our website for the ENS Policy Update. SBSD Owl Cam: The committee is going to
087present the first drafts. SBSD Owl Cam: of the NS Policy Revisions by July. SBSD Owl Cam: Does that feel doable? SBSD Owl Cam: No. SBSD Owl Cam: Like, I don't, I guess. Michelle : And policy by July 8th? SBSD Owl Cam: No, no, just first drafts. SBSD Owl Cam: The thing is, the earlier we get our ideas down on paper, the longer we… Okay, I'd say, yes, very rough. SBSD Owl Cam: outline. SBSD Owl Cam: No pressure, rep. Fair enough. SBSD Owl Cam: Update. SBSD Owl Cam: How about a detailed commentary and analysis on every sentence? SBSD Owl Cam: Just kidding. Okay, great. Oh yeah, and according to our, ENS policy update, July 8th is the first community forum after drafting. SBSD Owl Cam: Oh. Wait. SBSD Owl Cam: That is… so… Michelle : No,
088we have to ship that. SBSD Owl Cam: Ship that. Okay, so we're not… so move… so move Community Forum off of July 8th. Push it back. SBSD Owl Cam: That'll give us time to do 3 community forums before SBSD Owl Cam: action, which I think is sufficient. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay. SBSD Owl Cam: Thank you very much for thinking through that. So, for the next meeting, NESDAQ Best Use Study Report, Legislative Update on New Policies, possibly electing a board member or superintendent to the CISA Board. SBSD Owl Cam: board member election, BSBA election, and first drafts of the ANS policy. SBSD Owl Cam: Okay. SBSD Owl Cam: It's a lot of work to do. Yeah, there is a lot of work. All right, well, I would entertain a motion to adjourn. SBSD Owl Cam: Alyssa
089moves. Second. Dan seconds. Any discussion? SBSD Owl Cam: Well, thanks again, Allie. Congratulations. Thank you, Allie. Thank you. SBSD Owl Cam: All right, all those in favor? Aye.