001Okay, there you go. All set. >> We're going to call to order the meeting of Mount Anthony District number 14. Um, today is the 12th of January. This is special meeting. Um, the first item on the agenda is public comments. >> I have no one in the waiting room. >> Okay. And Beth said she's on her way from another meeting. So, um, uh, with no public comments, we'll move on to the next agenda item, which is the budget. >> So, Tim, I did have a stack of papers there in the corner if >> anybody cares that it's just the first couple pages of the was in the packet. Uh before I get started, however, um there was a request from our new district clerk, Kayla Thompson. Just to a reminder that anybody who is running
002for a seat has to have a petitions turned in to her no later than Monday, January 26th at 5:00 p.m. >> I do have a list of um board seats that are up. if you're not sure if you're up or not. So, with that, prepare to um kind of do the same thing I did last time and give you an abbreviated uh version of the packet. Hopefully, it's a little bit more digestible. work. There we go. Okay. So, this is uh budget by category as usual to start us off. Um there was a comment at the last meeting to see what we could do to possibly um get closer to a 3% overall uh budgetary increase. Uh we are right now at four. So, we did make some progress um with some proposed changes that
003I'll go over in just a moment, but just wanted to mention a couple of things. Um we did tighten up a little bit in what we're projecting for salary increases in the negotiation. So, that's one factor. And the other um it has to do with some FTEES along with um Southwest Tech tuition was announced um and we got our sixth semester FTEES. So those uh factors have been combined. That was an increase of just over $100,000 to the budget for Southwest Tech. So the FTEES in this um this budget that we're proposing, there are a few changes. Um one is the requested position um for the academic support teaching position. We've removed that. Um, we have received the word from the agency of education that there is anticipated carryover in the funding that we have
004that's currently funded the position right now. So, it's projected like we will be able to continue that through the dish year. So, we went ahead and pulled that out. So, the FTE total that you're seeing in this um budget for the middle school remains the same. The high school level is a reduction of five FTEES and what's proposed are all vacant positions, many of which have been vacant for more than a year. Um, and they are comprised of an English teacher, um, a foreign language teacher, a social studies teacher, a current math teaching position vacancy, and a library clerk. So, those are all vacant positions. There was um what I have kept in from uh the first version of this budget is the HHB coordinator that we were using one of the social studies vacancies
005just repurposing um that FTE and that money up to the the HH coordinator. So that remains in um along with the prevention coordinator uh that we're looking at some reduction in grant funding there. So to keep that position intact. So those are the the major changes in the second draft. So again, the five FTE reductions proposed at the high school, um we took the one out at the middle school for the academic support because we will be able to continue that um through grant funding. Um so then to recap where we were um to where we are now. So dropping the budget about 1.9% um was almost $685,000 that we cut out. So it's the same amount of money for our education spending. And education spending is that amount of money that we're asking for
006from the edund. So that's a 2.1% increase over draft one. Hey, can you pause there just for >> sure. So just for folks to understand proposed expenditures line up 4%. So when you talk school budget of 4%. Ed spending is what we asked for the state to fund us and it says 9.3%. Can you just briefly explain why there's a difference between the 4% and 9.3%. >> So the difference is the offsetting revenue. Um in the mathematical equation we take our expenses we subtract any projected offsetting revenue and we end up with education and spending. Our fund balance is has dropped um partially because of some of that money that we have you know we've set aside um in that res general reserve fund I guess. So that general reserve right now has $1.15 million
007in it. Um, but that's really the the driver right now is a reduction in our fund balance. So that means we're getting closer to spending what we're budgeting every year, which is a good thing. Um, but when that fund balance comes down, it's the kind of that cushion that as it shrinks, it's then forcing us to ask for more from the education fund. >> Thank you. >> Sure. Um so from there we have to look at um what our education spending is per long-term weighted ADM. Um so from draft 1 we were at 12614 now down to 12220 255 and just I'm sure you all are well aware but our student [clears throat] numbers are declining. So this is just um we saw this in the first draft that I showed you. Uh I did
008update it for we're now at this is preliminary long-term weighted ADM numbers um from version 15 which came out December 31st. But these are the numbers that we have confirmed and verified. >> You pause there just for a second. >> Sure. >> So and just a reminder uh we will have more data by the end of the month that we're going to be sharing first the SU and then we'll share it with other boards as folks come back. But trends that will continue and we know this because the elementary school board has already done the preliminary work. Student enrollment is predicted to continue declining over the next five years and there's not a bounce at the end of that. I only trust it out five years. So it will continue to go down as you
009can see here. That's important because that means less money coming back to us to pay for school. Um that is something we can't control. No one in this room can control that. Uh [clears throat] the other piece and we'll get into it is the CLA. So I'll stop talking there. But as we look at this trend, the opportunity sitting in front of us is what Adam and Chris have said is that if I get a resignation, if I get a retirement, going back and saying, "All right, do I still need this position because I have fewer kids sitting in front of me?" So going from 11 English teachers to 10 might make it's an opportunity at this time rather than continuing to fill those positions and finding yourself two or three years down the road
010and the funding has really dropped off and then you're laying people off. So we're we're trying to be proactive and take opportunities for vacancies and uh not cut people's jobs at this point. Thanks for >> So then to get to a a estimated tax rate, we can't just look at Mount Anthony because Mount Anthony is just a high school district. We have to look at our elementary partners in this as well. So similar again to the first time I put that this way um including both SVUSD statistics um and North Bennington's in this. So we can see how everybody plays a part in this. So again the budget expenditures that we have in this that that number is wrong. The number is wrong. The percentage is correct. So that the expenditures for an Anthony for
011draft 2 should be um 37,86,671. That's actually left over from draft 1. um education spending. That is correct. The 34920208 which is a 9.3% increase um as we just saw previous slides. So our long-term weighted ADM, this is the actual number of weighted students um that were in our census period. So, it's the average average daily membership from last year and this current year with weights applied to all of those students compared to where we were last year. Um, Mount Anthony has seen a decrease in just over 86 long-term weighted EDM, a 2.9% decrease. Um, the UED SVUD um is down 112. So together almost 200 student count down and again it accounts for weights. The the ADM counts um 35 actual headcount decrease for Mount Anthony and 50 at the elementary level. So when
012you add the weights that's how you get to almost the 200. So again, we kind of go back to look at what our education spending is for long-term weighted ADM. This is um part of the calculation that ends up on the ballot or the the budget question. So when we're asking voters to consider the budget, we have the budget figure in in the ballot question, but then we also have to identify what the education spending per weighted pupil is and what that percentage change is. So that's required by statute to be in writing um on the ballot. So, even though the budget that you have before you right now is a 4% increase and the ask from the ED fund is a 9.3% increase, what's going to go on the ballot is a 12.6% increase
013because that is what our education spending is per long-term weighted average daily membership. I know, I know it's confusing. Uh so then to get to the tax rates um to >> go back section but yeah >> but we've been having discussions in this board and other boards you did the good work your budget's up 4% some of them are a little bit higher some of them a little bit lower and then you interact with community members who are like well wait a minute I just went in and voted and it's up 12 and a half% how's that going and again we hope that by sharing information that if you have declining student the state of Vermont has declining enrollment. I need to say that frequently and we'll talk a little bit about CLA not working
014in our favor either. And again, that is a statewide issue. I can provide small but I appreciate Venet pointed that out three hours ago and it made me sit up after lunch too because I looked involved person. So >> our prior years was only 10 thou I mean the amount of money per pupil, right? or per >> right it's because of that setting revenue has decreased much >> but I mean the prior year was fairly low you've >> done a pretty decent job of maintaining a lower amount per >> yeah to give you some context um so they reintroduced the excess spending threshold penalty um this past year I believe and what that means is districts that spend And the threshold this year is for FY27 set at um $16,470. So districts that spend more
015than that per their weighted pupils actually get taxed higher. Um it's a calcul another calculation that comes into play, but we don't have any of our districts anywhere near that, nor do we typically come anywhere near that. Um, but I can tell you based on the the meeting that I was in on Friday with um the statewide business um officials, there are several several districts um [clears throat] that are um struggling with this and trying to get below the threshold because they spend so much. [clears throat] So hopefully you can help help me understand and and if it's and I know it's being recorded so this could help others but we're a long ways from $16,000. Um the way the state funding model works, we are a long ways but other districts are much higher.
016is that we are essentially paying for those districts that are we meaning taxpayers in the state of Vermont are essentially paying for these districts that are higher even though the ones that are living the students who are living in this community and this body have kept it $4,000ish below that threshold. >> It's a it's a statewide system, right? So, we all pay for everybody's kids. Um, way to think about it is when you look at taxing capacity of your municipality, that's really where a lot of the money is generated. Not all. So, I know a lot of people think like all the money that from the education fund is generated by property taxes. That's not the case. Like all of the states sales and use tax, all of it goes into the education fund. a
017portion of rooms and meals tax goes into it. Um there are a couple other portion of the lottery goes into So [clears throat] the property taxes is kind of like what makes up the difference. So that's where when we talk about that homestead property yield, it's when the legislaturator is trying to figure out how much do we need to raise from property taxes to put into the ED fund to be able to pay all of these school district bills. um our communities, all of them are below 100% in their common level of appraisal. So that means all of our properties are valued lower than market. So that's why our tax rates end up being higher because our properties are undervalued. But all of the money that we're raising comes back to us because of these
018numbers. Whereas in other communities that don't have as many students, um, but they have really high property values, they're generating a lot of money for the education fund that is helping to support other communities that don't have enough, you know, of a grand list in their municipality to cover all of their expenses. And as we and as we talked about, >> we need to make sure folks understand when you sit and you vote for the MAU budget, that money goes to Mont Pillar and by law, the legislature has to raise money to pay that bill. But they do that for the entire state and then we're all responsible through our taxes to well in part just said to pay that bill. So currently the system has no reward or penalty for fiscal conservancy or overspending
019which is part of what you were saying is that there's really >> yeah there's no penalty. Well, there's an excess tax, but that's only been reinstated recently. And for community, I I know the superintendent of Pney, they [clears throat] have historically spent some of the lowest on students. There's no they don't get any bonus for that. Just their community feels that they this is what they support. So, [snorts] >> well, how do we uh how do we account for the students in this that goes to the career development center? I mean, it's a number, but how do we count? >> So, they they end up being Mount Anony's students first because of the way that we count average daily membership. So, those students based on their residency and their enrollment period. So, if they were
020in school enrolled from days 11 to 30 of the census period, they count as one. Now, for for the tech center, they have a a different measure of students by they're called full-time equivalent. So, FTEES, >> right? >> And I don't know how they calculate that. It's a file that comes from the state, but I'm sure that has to do with an enrollment and attendance. >> But that's Yeah. And what I'm getting at is that no matter what they where they educated at least in terms of the tech centers, >> everyone counts as Mount Anthony. All those other schools can do the same thing. Students that I mean the average daily number of students that they have registered and whether they go somewhere and take other classes and so forth, they still uh that other
021which is like the tech center is having to get that money and then come back and incorporate it into the budget for Mount Anthony. And that's like a confusing double dip type of thing. But there's no other way to do it. >> Yeah. So every every student is associated with a town in which they live. So that whatever school district is associated with that town gets credit for that student. Um the tech center again runs on FTEES and then their calculations for their tuition is based on a six semester average. So they look back three years. Um, and that's how the tuition is calculated. [clears throat] And Southwest Tech is not its own taxing entity, >> right? >> So that's why the tuition has to be built into the districts that actually are taxing entities
022such as Mount Anthony, Arlington, San Gate. So they all have a piece of Southwest Tech in their budget to get the money, raise the money in the education fund to get the money from the ed fund to then pay tech center. Um, so to get to the uh estimated tax rate calculations based on this draft of the budget, um, that's what the rates are for all of the member towns, school districts within uh, Mount Anthony compared to the current FY26 rates. Those are your differences with the associated percentages. So between um the SVUD and Mount Anony's budgets together, we've cut a little over $1.3 million. And these numbers haven't shifted a whole lot from draft one. If you recall what draft one looked like, they were just as jarring. So that just goes to show
023that even if we wanted to take money out of that general reserve fund. It's, you know, a penny for Mount Anthony is roughly $460,000. So to get a penny off of that tax rate, you're almost at half a million because of the CLA and because of our drop in students. >> Do you have the CLA page on this presentation? >> I don't have a um >> That's all right. I don't have the comparison, but I I do have the file open. >> Because to show folks, student enrollment and CLA are two things that school board doesn't affect, but it does affect eventually what your rate of taxation is. Um Renee mentioned it that you know having accurate assessment of property value. Again, I know I sound like a broken record, but that's a statewide issue
024as well. There are many many communities whose uh you know, appraisals haven't done been done recently. So, the state views them as being pretty seriously behind what their true market value is or their true value. And again, not having it uh Renee has a very nice slide that kind of breaks it down by the communities that we serve. And you can take a look at um >> this is not what you wanted. I was sorry the one that rates us like >> I can't see it. >> We're anywhere from like 55 to 90% of where the CLA was. That's okay. >> Oh, what I it from this morning. This morning >> that's that is in there, right? >> Well, this so this is the file that came from the state with the actual CLA are
025in this column. >> So is that the adjusted one at the end? >> So at the end, yes, that's when the the statewide adjustment has been approved. you're looking, you would like your number to be a hundred. Uh the state has an adjustment >> within the process to to lessen the blow of taxes and raise that. So that number on the very far right has gone through that adjustment. And so you can see Arlington and Woodford. Woodford and Sanate are the only ones that are they're actually over 100, which helps you in ways too. So for folks who take a look at that last column, you're like, "All right, so we're 12, 15, whatever points were away, please know that that those have already been adjusted through a state uh calculation as part of the
026process." So they were much lower, and that's an attempt to not have the property tax be such a shock on people. [snorts] I do feel like I should add some opportunities, Renee. I feel like we're It feels gloomy in here. So, maybe I could do that. I will say that talked about that you can't we as a board cannot impact the number of kiddos who are going to be born in the next five years and enter kindergarten in five years. We can't affect what the property value is at at this level at least. But what we can do is we can have this information there's work already that's been started at various board levels and we can talk about okay we are operating this number of buildings are we using them to the best of
027our abilities um the way we organize them should we be replacing every position that will be coming open through retirement or vacancy because HR can tell us that on average 10% of our employees will move on to another position or retire on any given year. So, you're talking 30 to 50 positions on a yearly basis that you can have good conversations and boards can give directions to say we want you to go into this um this direction anymore. Um and so looking at the things that we can control I think is an opportunity for us and some of you have already you know are participating in conversations. The other thing is the last week if you watched the governor's speech on state of the state the entire thing was about education. So I would encourage
028you to listen to it. I I will be honest. I found myself nodding along at sometimes in agreement. There were other things I would have welcomed a spirited conversation about. Um there's a good opinion page in this morning's banner as I always start my day. Uh a person writing from in the state talking about the current situation at education in Vermont, which is the Vermont approach is to put more layers on top of it instead of going in the opposite direction and simplifying it. As we walk through the tax process, you can see that's complexity built on complexity. The author this morning, which I didn't agree with the entire point, but what I thought was an interesting observation is the complexity then there's no responsibility for anything. You can we can all walk away and
029say, well, it's just the way it is. So, if you have time, and I always encourage reading the banner, I encourage you I didn't write the person's name down. We had a legislative uh gathering this morning. Uh we had uh good conversations with elected officials. They had a lot of questions. Uh you know uh their kind of theme right now is what should we be focusing on? Uh and I shared with everybody here I hope has seen that that I uh myself and four other superintendents have been invited to speak in front of. Now it's a combined committee uh Senate and House uh a number of us will be zooming in uh and not be in person. It's kind of a hike and uh yeah it's a busy budget week but it's a it's a
030good opportunity to get in front of them. You've seen my notes. My and I'm not speaking for the board. I'm speaking as a a rookie superintendent. We need to simplify and clarify how we pay for schools. Um, I give several examples in there. Uh, I'd like to see less regulation and compliance and spend our time in resources on actually improving outcomes for kids. And then lastly, I have to plug because I live in a public school world. If if we're if any school in this state is going to receive public funding, then we should all be held to the same expectations. I I think that was my I think that's the biggest question that I get and and specifically referring to BBA you know it it's it's a public private they >> they have to
031live by the same standards they don't right so how can that be fair to you know you look at that campus they don't they're >> ridiculous for >> ridiculous >> so I I I appreciate um Senator Bongard's offered the invitation I will be a courteous guest, but uh and he and I have had conversations and I appreciate him listening and trying to get more southern superintendent to participate in the conversation, but it is a good question to ask. And that's my conclusion of my comments is the legislature needs to take this opportunity, take some things off the plate, tell us what we need to focus on, and then show us how they're going to pay for it. I my simplistic suggestion is tell us at the beginning of a budgeting process how much money we
032have. I assume all of you run your household like that. You know how much money you have and then you make decisions. You don't make decisions and then hope that the funding arrives. That doesn't sound like a formula for success. So, um I think it's uh I I think it's an opportunity and I think this board and other boards that we serve within the SPSU are well positioned. You've done some initial research. You know, you're asking questions about, you know, how many kids can fit in the building? You know, are we doing it in the right order? Uh do we, you know, how many teachers have or how many staff have we hired over the years? Do we need to continue to fill those positions or have our priorities changed in different directions? We also
033did take an opportunity since I folks who work in the mental health side, we did talk about, you know, schools and community partners have kind of blurred the line. We've hired staff both sides of that. And now you kind of look like, oh, am I over in the lane where I shouldn't be because I have mental health experts working in schools and I'm taking resources away from community partners. So that comment was made several times in front of elected officials like you need to fund our community partners at a sufficient fund and staff them so they can meet the needs, >> right? >> Uh because we're kind of, you know, we're kind of approaching it as all of us have the best intentions, but perhaps we're not coordinating our resources or we're competing for the
034same staffing and that's causing we're not delivering the best outcomes for kids. So, I felt like this morning's conversation, I appreciate the legislature members making time for us and listening and had lots of good questions. And so, we shall see. We shall see. >> Tim, what attends those legislative gatherings? I know they're now routine. >> 8:00 they're bright and shiny because all of them are hopping off at 9:00 run into other things. So, they're 8 to 9. But >> who attends from the school system? Um I have it's mostly directors that have been showing up for that. Um I will have board members. There was board members this morning that would attend. Um and then it's a different group of legislators. It all depends on their availability. We just try to make it routine and
035if they can drop in that's great. and some will we do have a zoom link available also so that that's more convenient for folks and there are representatives who have to use that in order to make the meeting so um I if uh we will continue to send that out and try to make that available to folks if you have feedback like hey it'd be really helpful if you have you know posted a calendar mostly we're just trying to reestablish it as a routine this year >> is there a limit to the amount people that you want in that space to make it productive or is it >> No, I mean we this is how we set it up this morning and we we usually fill it but we'd be happy when we take more
036folks. Um I do try to keep it to we we do send the invitation out to uh you know board directors. Uh it's not posted as a community meeting necessarily only because we would have a capacity issue. you know when the next one is. >> You can ask me that. I want to say that it's going to be in March. I'll do a little research and I'll make sure everybody knows that date before I leave because we have Yep. I can check. >> Yeah, I think there has been question before about quorum of boards being in attendance. It's been, you know, push back like there's no actual action that the board is taking, so that shouldn't be a concern. Um, but our previous superintendent felt very strongly about that. So, >> and if I remember
037correctly, we received information from our attorney saying that it's as long as we're >> not doing business that the >> I don't know. >> I can I can look back, but and I apologize if I missed the email for this one. Um I it must have been over brief but um yeah I don't I will check back with Dina Dena's email but I'm almost positive that she said it is she does not view it as a quorum for a board. >> I do not see it in my skimming but we're in we would be in we we have we've been holding them every other month and that puts us in March which may be a the reason we haven't put it late down yet. the boards would be reorganizing, but I will have to I'll
038follow up with the group and set it up for the next one. >> So, it says action requested. >> That's on there all the time just in case. [laughter] >> Well, action like so we need some [clears throat] direction. >> If this budget isn't sufficient or you're not satisfied with that, we need some direction. Or if you're feeling like we have done good work in getting this budget to where it is now and comfortable with that. You can vote on it as well. We will have to meet again um to do our warning. But if if you did vote on it tonight, I could probably have that ready for your regular meeting next week. So, there wouldn't be a other meeting on top of it. But >> I'll I'll make a motion to to move
039it as written. If a motion by Scott, second by Leon. Um, any discussion? >> Very funny question because I I came in late and may have missed this. Am I understanding that for communities who have had their properties reassessed already that most of those folks will likely see an increase due to assessment levels coming up to par with where they should be and then an additional increase of the school budget. The way that the math should work is that when your CLA comes up, your tax rate does come down. Okay? >> However, those aren't the only two factors in the equation. The other one that weighs very heavily is our student count. And because that has dropped so significantly, it doesn't matter where people's CLA's are. I think that's that's really the driver right now
040is the decrease in our long-term weighted ADM. So it would I mean when you think about it's going to take us almost half a million dollars to cut out of the budget to move it a penny and I mean all the CLAs are adjusted right so they they're trying to bump it artificially back up and some of them are already at 100% if not over a little bit and they're still seeing double digit percentage increases. >> So that sounds like yes. Not it's not I mean I don't believe that there's a direct like there are multiple factors that go into the um that formula. I don't think that you say that page of the of the handout is like that's the mathematical equation to get you there. So the CLA is line 11. And also
041remembering what we're not discussing and I know I sound like a broken record is that um each year the state sets an income level in which uh the house like a household could apply for a property tax adjustment which reduces the amount of your school taxes to what they feel is appropriate and that doesn't happen until after this everything. So when they're asking, you know, I think one of the challenges that I personally have with the way that things are presented on the ballot is one, you know, they're they're punishing us for having our uh um per pupil low last year, right? So we we had it at 10 10,000, now it's at 12. So we have this like big percentage jump, but really we did like we didn't need the 12 last year, we
042you know, like the percentage is irrelevant, right? like we actually saved a fair amount of money in that space. But also that percentage that they're they're in that they're showing people has no real correlation because on the backside like you could have a property tax adjustment like and not pay any of it. So we're our system is, you know, for someone who doesn't understand that and is costconscious because that looks that it looks like real dollars, it impacted them, they may vote against our budget because they view it as like something that's going to impact them. But I would urge taxpayers very strongly to look at their tax returns, you know, if they are a homeowner in like to see whether they are getting a property tax adjustment claim. if they are, that is like
043leveling their education um tax down to an area that the state deems is appropriate for their income level. So I mean the through this entire process, the state is just monkeying with numbers from start to finish. I mean like uh and but that is a huge factor in like uh and I don't think people understand it enough you know and if you look at Bington County I don't know what statistically what our average income is at this point but I you know I'm I'm certain uh it's confidential information but I'm certain that there are lots of people in the community that receive that benefit >> was noted this morning that twothirds >> right so you like so Bennington as a whole like or [snorts] our school District 9th has hacked our costs down to like
044to keep taxes down, but really the state's then removing that tax in the back end because twothirds qualify for property tax adjustment. So we're we're not doing our community. >> There's part of me that just wants to be 15,900. >> Right. I mean really >> because I mean I'm I'm a resident of Shbury. I'm looking at an 18% increase. 18% increase. I'm hearing that we're $4,000 less than what the threshold is. >> Yeah. >> So, the kiddos from the town that I represent are seeing are paying top dollar receiving >> something that is of high quality but not the highest quality they could be receiving >> in theory. I mean, if if the money equated directly or >> but it doesn't. I'm I I made the motion to move this, but there's a there's a
045and I realize it's a much bigger process. It's hard. Well, and I'm and then I'm also looking at like the benefits category, right, for our um so I don't know what portion of that is health insurance only, but you know, if people remember some years ago, the state took uh the the state took either bargaining power or took that negotiation power away from the boards. So that number is something that they're in control of and not us, right? But then the messaging is that we are that the local that you know on the district levels we need to to uh look at our costs but really they they keep holding all these cards and then we have a very small amount to uh to control and that's the that's the number that I was asking
046at the last meeting or two I wanted to get what is it that we do have some control over in terms of that budget amount the percent and that's one of the selling points for everybody and say look this this is it but we only 90 some percent or 80 some percent of this is no control for us. this is what we're we're educating the kids out of is this 20% and doing all these other things and so forth along that and that that's not a lot of money when it comes to what we're trying to do at this level here the state and everything else has got to control of that >> just it just feels like a big scam to me you know like we're spending all this time you're spending all this
047time and energy and effort to come up with numbers that we have to present to of our community and it means nothing like it's it's a scam. >> Boy, I mean, if you add um the equity issue between the state of having um the public private uh funding, you know, I I went down a rabbit hole throughout the day and was looking at BBA's 990 and how much revenue they generated from um from our t property taxes or from tuition, right? and then you know looking at the different schools that fund that and the amount of money that they charge and it's it's just not it's not an equitable process right that they like the districts our districts in the state that the tuition you know the tuition gets paid to BBA then doesn't have
048to go out to the community and ask the community to then vote on the budget but we have to do it twice right like we have to go we have to justify our spending and really the in that situation their educ educational leader can determine what's needed and fund both facilities and education appropriately and in our case our educational leader has to weigh you know community input like with what you know and um a lot of times I feel like we're doing a great job maintaining our facilities but I feel like we are we just keep kicking that can down the road and at some point we're going to need to fund facilities and the state currently have no way to do that yet either something% that is the health insurance >> of that number
049>> 65% almost 3.6 6 million >> which is seven cents. >> 65% is no control. >> Yeah, it's not control. >> But we have emotion on the table. Are there other comments? >> We got a motion in a second. So, >> right. Okay. I I have one question. Do you feel like this is an adequate budget to fund Anthony for next year? Dr. Press and Dr. Adam, they're both they both clearly advocated for what they think they need and feel like what we've put on the the table for you folks to consider this evening lead. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments? All in favor? >> I have no question. Um, okay. Motion carries. >> Thank you, Renee. >> Yeah. Can I have a motion to adjourn? So, [laughter] second.