001Okay. Um we will call the order the um special meeting of Mount Anthony uh union 14. Sorry, it is Wednesday, November 19th. Uh the first item on the agenda is public comments. >> There is a member. Let me see if I can show you the this one. >> Hello. There's a couple. Um, we see I see an Adam and Sarah on. >> Oh, sorry. Okay. So, I see Sarah. Um, I just this is the opportunity for public comments. If you would like to be unmuted, please uh hit the raise a hand button. I think we'll we'll move on if for some reason that pops up. Um we will move on to the consent agenda. We have minutes, warrants, retirements, leave of absence, resignations, and nominations. Um in the packet and I have a vote to
002approve the consent consent agenda as presented. >> Uh voted by Leon, second by Glenn. Any discussion with no discussion? Um, all in favor? Okay. Uh, we'll move on to finance. Um, I don't believe I saw the treasures report in the packet. We had a little bit of a challenge with the Cal this month. So, I may be missing it, but I do not believe we have it. I don't So, I don't think we have to move. >> I just I just sent a an email to members, too. I apologize. The uh there's a message forwarded to me from Katie West just recognizing that the packet link is broken. So there's an updated link in there in your email if you want to go back and that >> um but frequently the treasury report hits a
003different month. So wouldn't you know that then go to operations? Is there anything under operations? No. So, okay. >> The MAU, we'll move on to number five is MAU camera RFQ summary. >> Um, good evening everyone. My name is Adam. I'm from the IT department. Um, now just some brief history on this camera system upgrade process that we've been following uh districtwide. Um, so the district has an aging uh security system um across all of its buildings, not just the middle school. Um, and we started this process about two years ago where you know as buildings are literally getting into a failure state um or to a state where uh it's not useful or helpful to administration uh we've been replacing the camera system 100% uh building by building. Um, right now the priority is
004the middle school. Uh, back in the spring of last year, it faced a failure. Um, and we put a band-aid on it. Um, I think fortunately Chris isn't here, but Chris could speak to that. It's not c it's not functioning in a way that's uh helpful for administration. Um, so we went through a process um requesting a quote for new hardware. Um, and that's what's before you u pay. Um so this is replacing what's existing in place. Uh we did a walkthrough with the security team um and also building administration got their feedback uh and they've determined that um the cameras that we're requesting are adequate and going to meet the needs uh of what they need uh to support the goal. >> Um are we finding the same camera systems suide? So the technically
005parts can be swapped out as time goes by and band-aids need to be done. >> Yes. Which is why I think you know as as we've done this RFP building by building the first RFP we had many options to pick from because it was kind of a first swing at it. Um we're many buildings into this process. Um which is why I think we're getting less and less vendors responding uh or manufacturers responding to proposals. Um, >> what is the lifespan of these cameras? >> 10 years. >> Are there other questions? The cost >> uh the cost to do the middle school is the 115,000. Um, so >> it's a fluctuates by building, but that's the cost of the middle school. >> It is not, but we do have funding to do it. Does uh
006the high school have improvements coming in the same? >> Yes, we've been um prioritizing based on this the state of the system. Um the high school does have just the nature of it being the high school does have one of the newer systems um in the newer cameras. Um it doesn't mean that it's adequate and fully meeting the needs. Um, but there's other buildings that I think are high on the priority list. Um, and but the plan is the high school will also be upgraded all to this new system. Um, so you know, not to dive into the security plan, but we did get all the doors on the same system now. So we have a single card swipe system across all buildings and this is moving forward to so we have a single camera
007system um, districtwide as well. Um, so the high school is on that plan. Um, as well um, but there's other buildings that are, I think, in a higher priority state. Um, so I'd say the high school's a little ways out. >> And are you prioritizing based on like the the um, tech department's ability to do the work or based on dollars in the districts? >> It's a mixture of both. Um, so I think that it's it's the, you know, bandwidth of staffing. Um, it's obviously in uh causes an interruption when we come in and have to replace the system. So it has to be worked around um vacations and and whatnot. Um, you know, when students are out of the building. Um, and then I would say that yeah, dollars is is obviously another piece.
008We want to be fiscally responsible and not um like the high school's still functioning. Um but we we obviously need to get to it within the next, you know, 24 to 36 months. Um but it's a mixture of dollars, bandwidth of, you know, local um some of the buildings require electricians. The middle school at this point does not. So we're we're safe in that aspect. Um >> question, maybe it's for Renee. When when you say we we have enough to cover it, is this enough to cover it in the MAU budget? Okay. >> And is that is that at the expense of anything else? >> Um we there are a couple of positions that we had in the budget this year that haven't been filled. We are dipping into those funds with extra stipens that
009are being paid for extra courses that teachers are covering. Um, but we also have a contingency that we carry in the MAU budget of $300,000. So if there wasn't breakage someplace else, we could always look to those funds. >> I just want to know what was the current warranty under the camera system that we have. Did we exceed the life of that or we >> Yeah, I think the current system um, you know, there's components of it dating to the original of the building. Um, and I'd say like the newest components, you know, we're talking maybe 2014. Um, the the useful lifespan of, you know, technology in general, like laptops and most technologies 5 years. Uh, security systems, um, we try to push to 10 years because, you know, it is an expensive piece of
010equipment. Um, so when we spec it out, we're looking for manufacturers that have the same target. Um, so I would say yeah, we're well we're we're well past if in some of the areas of the camera system almost double um what the useful life is of the system. So maybe as a followup I would just ask and we could be in similar positions based on what you've said with some of these other buildings, but have we have we been spending an an exorbitant amount of money keeping this system going when if we you know not knowing now what we know if five years ago we had just replaced it, we might be we might have spent $50,000 since then to patch this thing together. I would say up until we started, you know, looking at
011this holistically and coming up with a solution districtwide, uh the answer was yes. Um but now as systems fail, um like we're not going to the middle school and saying, "Okay, let's put a $30,000 band-aid on this." Um the band-aid we did was, you know, borrow some old hardware that was retired from another system. We've kind of pieced it together um from hardware that's been, you know, replaced from other buildings as we go through this process. Um but we're not spending mass amounts of money to maintain an old system. Um we're taking the approach of just replace it and uh take take the the path that we know is going to drive a stable um 10-year future. So, we were at one time had a list deals and grounds and things that we needed to
012try to do. Is this on that list? I'm not on that list. >> I do not believe the cameras fell under uh buildings and grounds. Uh that's always fallen under it. Um so, I do not believe I I don't know what list, but if it was categorized buildings and grounds, this most likely did not fall under. >> Right. That's why I was just wondering why we if if it's something that's going to be need to be replaced like the roof and other stuff >> along this line. We need to be having that on that list of items so that we'll be preparing for that. That's what we're getting at. >> Do we have like a plan for >> we're required by the new district quality standards to have at a minimum a fiveyear plan which
013Holly has and is updating. she I think it's aged a little bit right now but yeah as part of that work she's >> would be an interesting thing >> that'll guide our budget building um you know as we move forward >> be interesting to have it added to it and particularly if we're going to have an MAU cost at some point I mean we don't you know we don't have a res like a a reserve fund for these types of things right so we're budgeting on an annual basis for See with Adam, like with tech stuff, we're looking at it systematically so that we're doing certain projects over the course of time, right? >> So, this just happens to be a need that wasn't in in his budget for this at this point because the
014system has failed. >> So, just to to get it up to what it needs to be, I was like, we can pay it out local. Like, there's there's money to do it. Let's just get it done. Um, >> I think going forward >> review is going to be so important because it's >> I appreciate Scott's question about, you know, where were we 5 years ago? Could we have done better? And I'm hoping that the technology and what's available today is better and crisper and cleaner and a and just a better picture overall. Um, and I'm also wondering, are we going to stay with the same vendor? Is it going out to big? What process happens there? It's >> so I I think that um you know with with the way the budget's set up in
015this district, we couldn't do like just one grant. Hey, we're going to go districtwide. Um but I think that if this the manufacturer we've been going with uh which is Ricotta, um they continue to be price competitive, which they have been this whole time. Um they'll keep winning. Um but we do you know invite other manufacturers to bring um proposed solutions to the table as we go to each building. Um so um that that kind of that answers the question like it we want it to be competitive. Um and we want to make sure that obviously we're getting the best price. Um and unfortunately you know the the smoothest path for that we we would have done one grand RFP two years ago. the cost of that wouldn't have been uh digestible I think districtwide.
016Um so we've gone this approach where we're breaking out over you know two to three years to get to all the buildings. Um which requires us to do these RFPs every building. Uh but we are you know we do value the integrations uh that exist building to building. We're looking at that. Um, and then when it comes to, you know, the replacement cycle, the IT budget has moved to a replace, you know, for workstations, laptops, they all have useful life. It's all budgeted for um these bigger systems, you know, we're working those into the budget as well. So, everything will be on a replacement cycle. >> I would add one thing to what Renee said. Um, as part of the work from the new district quality standards, as an SCSU, we have to working in
017two areas. One is a priority list for buildings across all buildings in the district. The other piece is a budget process that will involve much more value on prioritization. Recognizing you have a set amount of money, you have to set priorities which should go to Leon's question. Are we going to be able to anticipate three, four, five years down the road? What are the big ticket items? >> I just want to go back to Sandy. they in the board packet and I know that there's there is they looks like they had a quote from connection and another firm that chose not to provide a quote and then the firm that they didn't get that >> yeah so they did they did request things from different areas I just don't clarify >> thank you appreciate that
018>> I just want to say it's the bigger picture is what H was talking it's needed to be coming from SVSU and say let's get everybody on the same picture because we're drawing from the same resources and we having the same key every school work their right their way up even though and every administrator has this they should be looking at the same thing that everybody else is looking at in every school even though you're not ready to upgrade your camera system there but we should have a umbrella type of uh >> yeah I mean I think it's going to be an interesting I think that that's a a specific challenge because you know I'm sitting here and looking at through the lens of Mount Anthony like high school and middle school, not you know,
019not the budget impact on the elementary district, you know, because and so that would be a different budget process, right? Like right now we're going bottom up and that would be a top- down budget process and really only has >> our own budget >> and well administrative. I mean your your responsibil their responsibilities are administrative and special ed, right? So like we're our responsibilities over these things and so until they but yeah I mean that's a specific different problem I think. >> Y >> um any other questions about the camera system? >> I just got a quick one. I'm seeing a quote in here from Gov Connection. Is that just the equipment for 54,000? Uh so Gov Connection provided both for access uh is the manufacturer a great camera manufacturer. they've been around for a
020while. Um the problem with that quote is that there is no uh storage or the software or licensing um included in that. Um >> so that's a completely separate quote from the other one separately. >> Yep. Totally separate. Um it's just not unfortunately not an apples to apples comparison. We did reach out and ask to have it brought up to that and it just didn't get a response back. >> It's just a confuser. So thank you. What is standard for sorry what what is the indust whether it's industry standard or standard for storage is it held for a >> yeah so the district targets a 30-day retention um so at mid that's like the minimum retention target um there's other areas that you know the building principal or administration wants certain areas retained longer we
021can um but we aim for 30-day retention >> thank Is that a yes or you're good? >> No. Good. >> Um, can I have a motion to approve uh the request or camera system as presented? >> Good. I'll second. >> Okay. Any discussion? All in favor? Uh, we have nothing. No, nothing for policies. Bond to the administrator's report starting with the student representatives. >> Um, this is Chloe. Uh, uh, just, uh, the high the high school clubs have been very busy recently, especially the drama club. Um, the fall musical Shrek has come to a close just this past week. Um, the Patriot players performed four shows. Um, two, three evening and one ma, two of which were sold out. Yay. Um, and as well as two uh school day shows to elementary schoolers. Um, and
022there is also um way in the future, but I don't know if you went to the to see the musical, but um there will be a spring play as well. Um uh National Honor Society hosted a bake sale on Saturday as well at Grace Christian School right now. And uh we also for National Honor Society also have a can drive and a blanket drive in progress. Um few weeks ago, um our our interact club uh hosted a butt drive as well. >> Um for sports, we're in between fall and winter right now, but Nordic did begin. And then basketball, dance, and indoor track are starting at the end of this month into early December. Um and then we're getting new bleachers. That's our extra announcement. >> You any questions? Thank you. >> Comment. >> Yeah.
023>> My wife is amazed that the drama and musical they keep replacing the talent because we keep losing people and >> gosh, >> but there's not. >> They graduated. >> It is. It is amazing. It is. Every year is like >> they can't do better and then they do do better. Yeah. And this year they even had like a group of tap dancers come out for >> I think those people I think those tap dancers were from Berkshire dance I think. So >> the players look pretty awesome. >> Thank you. We'll move on to the high school report with principal Carmichael. So before I begin, I didn't see his name on the agenda, but we do have uh director. Yeah, with us one day. >> So if you guys have a perfect Adam, so I
024I did throw in the I didn't get on the agenda, but I asked Adam to slide me in under under his report. Um I did throw the coaches memorandum in for you guys, so you can see all the um the coaches for the winter season. We are um we're looking good as far as that goes. Just wanted to let everybody know that we are adding uh based on interest um a uh third high school boys basketball team. It's back this year. JBB Frostmore. Um we have over 40 boys who are interested in playing high school basketball, which is the most we've had in a in a long time. Um, we did have some some extra budgeted, you know, money. So, it's not going to like it's it's not going to we're not going to be
025pulling from somewhere else, but that is uh an addition. They will be having a schedule about 10 games. So, about half of what you know, a GV season would be. Um, in their practices will be over at Bennington Elementary. Already kind of sorted that. their games will be at Kates, but they'll be practicing because there's no more like practice time is is very slim with with the other uh teams. So, that's a that's a positive um you know, for us uh as well for this year. So, I'm happy with that. The numbers are are growing. Um and all other our sports um both at the middle school and the high school are back. Uh I have opened up um swimming uh for this uh this coming year. It's not a VPA sport, but we are
026going to allow seventh and eighth graders to join in with swimming. Um they they swim in the Berkshire League and all the other schools use seventh and eighth graders. So just in terms of of equity, so similar to what we do with Nordic skiing, um they'll be practicing and kind of working together. Uh, as far as that goes, um, I also included a list of all our our clubs and activities that are currently running at at Mount Anthony. So, you can see that. Uh, and I also gave you a a wrap-up from the fall just as far as our numbers go. And congratulations to the to the girls golf uh, team which came in um, D1 runners up uh, this year. So, that was a a great accomplishment for for them. Um, and none of
027them are are graduating. who who scored in the um um in the state competition. So, uh we'll have the full team back again for next year. So, uh so future looks pretty good for for girls golf. Um and any questions that anybody has and I know the bleacher project is happening. Um and I was a little nervous. I was a little apprehensive about putting new bleachers in in between seasons. I told Mr. Carmichael, "What are we doing? Why are we why are we doing this? But um it is ahead of schedule and going smoothly and um they should be uh fully uh installed by the end of this week. So that looks uh it's positive. Then we've got to buff up the floor a little bit and get her get her ready. Uh December 1st
028is when everything starts. So Nordic skiing has not begun yet. Nothing has begun yet. There are open like um open gyms and captain's practices and and whatever going on, but uh everything officially begins on Monday, December 1st. Um so after the holiday, >> the hockey club played and where do they practice? >> It's a good question. It's not they don't they go up to Riley Rink um and they it's they play themselves. they get uh rink time and so the hockey club is uh it is a very uh very well-received club. It's co-ed uh um and they go up to Riley Rinket. It lasts for um you know it's just like a a couple of months in between like you know October, November is when the is when the is when the hockey club goes
029>> I'm pretty sure that's fine. >> Yeah. They they like the kids who do hockey club love it. Love it. So they go up to to Riley ring. So it's in between once the winter season starts they can't use the uh use the ice they don't get the ice time anymore. So >> girls wrestling club is that separate from and did they have a schedule? >> It's new this year. It's just a club. Good question. Um it's new this year. I had some um some girls who were interested. I think I talked to Adam about this. The VPA is going to introduce girls wrestling as a sport within the next couple of years. All right. Right now, if a um a girl wants to wrestle, she has to wrestle on the co-ed team, which is
030mainly the the boys team. And we've had that had that in the past. This is not this is just a club. So, it just meets after school. Um there are coaches. It's 2:30 to 3:30 on Mondays and Wednesday. and they just go through, you know, kind of moves, routine, stuff like that. We've had the um the the girls fill out a waiver. Um and so it's they're not traveling anywhere. The Mount Anthony Club is just a a club, but it's to look ahead for, you know, a possible um a possible team in the coming years. if they wanted to participate um against other competition, they'd have to join the the co-ed team that we have that starts on December 1st. >> Ski and snowboard club. >> Yeah. >> Where did they >> they're going to
031magic this year. They've got a deal up at Magic Mountain. Um they are this it's back this year for the first time. It we did it uh fell apart around COVID's time like time. they were going to Jimny Peak or down to Birkshshire East. Um they've got a deal at Magic and it's going to be on on Sundays. So that would be open for uh a lot of like some of our athletes want to want to go up as well because maybe on Sunday they don't have a um a a day. So, we have um some advisors for that and um we'll get busing, you know, to the to the mountain. Um and the kids pay to be a part of that. They've got uh discounted lift tickets. But the good thing what Magic did
032was they were able to give the kids uh a pass that is not just for that. It's for the whole for the whole year. So, a discounted pass that they could use on their own as well uh as with the club. So, So, a lot of good stuff going on. A lot of a lot of good stuff. >> Um, I have an unrelated well semi unrelated question. How we have the van. >> Yeah. >> How is that? >> It's going it's going well. We've we've used it. Um, we used it during uh the uh the golf season. Uh helped us through states competitions. Um, we used it uh Allison's been using it with the uh school to to work. Um, we went up to a uh a student athlete leadership conference uh up in Burlington.
033Um, and we used it for travel there. Um, so it has like it has been been used. We've I got procedures. I've got it, you know. So, um I would say so far it's been out on you know um you know six to eight trips so far and it's only it's been less than a month I think that we've got. So I think positive I think so far and Renee uh hooked us into the into the uh Hoffman's car wash fleet as well. So we've got uh uh got uh we got washed up >> to stay clean. We got a lot of stuff and and uh yeah because it it just so happened that over the student athlete leadership conference was up in Burlington over Veterans Day and that was when the snow uh the
034the snow hit. So we had the all-wheel drive too, you know. So Paul was good. It's good. >> I just had one more question if no one else has. Do we have like a weight room or anything? I had the it came up. I had a a junior in my car on the way back from soccer the other night and he out of the blue announced that he was thinking that it would be great if we could you could figure out how to open the gym like the weight room and the athletic like to work out >> with peers because right now he said he thought it would give people who didn't have the resources more access like right now they most people go either by pass center or something at any time. So I
035know if we >> So the wait room takes the im like takes a little time off. It's going to reopen December 1st I think. Um it oftent times it there are weight room advisors uh and there are two people down who will open the weight room and that's part of their it's part of their club uh activity and a lot of times it's football like players who will go in and use it but it's open to anyone and there are three or four days a week that it is it is open and supervised. So, we'll get that that word out um you know to anybody and any team can go in. I know there are like some teams who are doing you know captain's practices and co like like coaches are just there kind of
036like open gyms or open lifts and so it has been used but um it it is a little uh right now the weight room is getting 247 use because the PE classes are in there as the bleachers are uh are uh you know so it's been busy over the last couple weeks because the bleachers install has happened so the PE classes have been pulled out up there. So, come >> and back to you. >> Great. >> Well, I got to say I definitely benefit from the high school entourage that joins me, so it makes my report pretty easy. Um, trying not to be super repetitive, but I will just uh again highlight a huge thanks to Lynn Sweet and the entire cast and crew of uh the Shrek musical. Um, I was able to attend
037the finale performance Saturday night, which I'm told by the crew, although all performances were amazing, that was the best one. So, I made a good choice. >> Uh, it's I mean, as others have already voiced, it's like absolutely incredible to see the work that Lynn and all the students and the the crew do with all the shows, but this one was especially impressive. Um, so I hope everybody had a chance to go and see one of them. Really, really a special night. Um another uh just update on um something that we have been going on at the high school. We have the Bennington Rising program. Um collaboration between Bennington College and the high school. I mentioned this at the October board meeting. It was just getting underway and just starting. Um so high school students
038and Bennington College students collaborated um kind of on two separate projects. one group worked together um to create science lessons, science for kids lessons that um just this past Tuesday they traveled to Bennington Elementary and taught these science lessons to fourth and fifth graders there um which was hugely successful and our students just absolutely knocked it out of the park and um the the elementary students really enjoyed seeing uh their older peers and learning science from them. Um the other group has been working on uh what's called what's in your food projects that are being displayed at Bennington Museum. So those have gone they've already gone and set those up there. Um tomorrow night there is a gala event at the museum from 5:30 to 7. So encourage anybody that has some time tomorrow night
039to get head on up to the museum and check out the work um that our students collaborated with Bennington College to uh to put together. So, that's a great um great collaboration that we had going on. Um again, not to be super repetitive, but I'll just highlight new bleachers being installed in the gym. That project's going well so far. Um yet, old bleachers totally removed. Took an opportunity to clean and paint some areas that hadn't seen the light of day in decades. So, that was nice. Um delivery of the new bleachers went well. Um, thanks to the Bennington Police Department for helping with uh traffic flow that morning if anybody was there on Monday morning. Um, that went smoothly. Uh, an installation is in progress and she seems to be on time or ahead of
040schedule. So, that's great. Um, just like to always give just a quick updateformationally about like half days. We had a half day today. We'll have of course the half day before the Thanksgiving break next Wednesday. And then the week after the break, we'll have another half day um on December 3rd. So that should be the remainder of the half days for this calendar year. And then lastly on my notes here, u just a couple new course proposals that we have for the high school. We're working on our um courses our program of studies for next school year. Um we're looking to introduce two new courses. Um both of these are addressing uh student need that we've heard from the student body as well as um you know I've heard this expressed from board members here
041especially Dave see what we're doing to improve our phys physical education curriculums. Um so we have physical education three course proposal that we're looking to add to our um program of studies. pass this around to anybody that's interested in reading a little bit more. So, this course would be an elective physical educ education class beyond the the two PE that are required for those students that are looking to add another um PE elective be open to juniors and seniors. Um student centered course just designed to allow uh greater engagement in physical activity um through some student choice, right? They could choose to explore things such as maybe fitness training, yoga, dance team, individual sports, martial arts, recreational games, outdoor activities. The list goes on. Um, and that would be a semester-based elective credit. We also
042have an introduction to Spanish course that we are looking to add to our program of studies. Um, this would be a course in basic conversational Spanish designed to provide students with an introduction to communicating in the language before necessarily engaging in a full Spanish one curriculum. Um, focuses on conversation, basic Spanish, um, learning about the Spanish speaking world, uh, and its cultures. uh be interest to engage students wanting to learn some, you know, basic level Spanish. I like to build a foundation before they jump into Spanish one. This would be a half credit course that was open for one semester, open to all grades 9 through 12. So, we're excited to be able to offer those addition to our robust program of study that we already have. I wanted to mention another collaboration. I I'm
043talking not as a board member now from the banner, but thank you to Adam in 10 form. Um I'm not sure if everybody here knows that Mike Moson has left the banner. Um and Katie West hooked up um Adam I mean Mike Sherice our editor with Mark Upright who is going to get some of his sports journalist um kids to write the all the winter previews for the patient. So I'm I thought that was a great thing and the kids will probably enjoy love seeing their their names at the by line. So we're really looking forward to that banner and maybe continuing that collaboration going forward. that appreciate that. Appreciate that reminder. >> Yeah, >> that was a quick phone call from Katie connected with Mark and within five minutes that was all in Mark
044in the students hands. So, appreciate that. >> We're working it out now. I think Shares wanted to come by the high school to talk to the the class to tell them what she would expect from them and deadlines and little journalism 101, I guess. >> Really >> great addition to his sports journalism course, too. Yeah. >> Well, we appreciate it. Thank you. >> Till we find somebody else >> forever to find anybody like Mike. >> Maybe one of the students heard about >> the other non court would be the interact club participating in following. >> I did I think I thanked them the last time if I did >> the interact club >> and the cheerleaders. All right. the interact club and the the high school cheerleaders um came to the banner as trunk or
045treat so that these old legs didn't have to do all the running and I had 35 kids I think well told between candy runners traffic directors and everything else so I loved having them I was the only one there my rest of my staff bagged on me so yeah appreciate I have question. This is the the course offering information as an FYI at this particular time and that's all it's supposed to be. What happens for the ones that we don't offer in terms of an FYI >> like whether you choose to take something off of the course offer? Somebody asked me that question and and I gave them what the responsibility was to the superintendent and the principal for doing the courses and offerings. But then they said, "Well, when they get dropped, who knows
046it?" And so I'm asking that question out here. >> I asked the qu that I was asked that question also. I asked our attorney the question and it's and I can confirm again, but it's my understanding from the attorney that like we ha you know we have a book of offerings, right? And we do not and Tim, please chime in if I'm wrong on this. We do not offer all of the offerings every every time, right? Like this board is not approving the exact offerings of the year. And so therefore, like the, you know, we're only approving what offerings are available to for the um administration to pick, right? And like if as long like, you know, so we don't have to approve when they don't offer it next semester, right? So if they choose
047not to run Spanish 2 next semester, that doesn't mean they're taking it out of the out of it. Now, maybe the board needs if the there's board members that are concerned about the length of time that certain things aren't running, maybe there's something, you know, I can go back to the attorney and ask like if there's a time line that, you know, in which we could ask the administration to come talk about the those classes that we're choosing not to run like, you know, like if we haven't run that in, but if >> not for a while, >> right? So, we haven't probably because of the lack of teacher, you know. So, um I I think that that was the answer, right? Like we're not approving what they're offering every year. We're approving the course
048offerings that are available that for them to offer to the students during a given year. Sorry, go ahead, Sam. >> I was just curious because with act 73 coming in and minimum class sizes with a possibility, is that going to be an impact on what will be available? Yeah. >> What? Two things. There are there is a list of offerings over time. So, it reads like a history and there's titles in there that I recognize from the 90s that are no longer offered because the teacher's not here and things like that. So, as as stated, you're offering you're talking teachers, you're talking to staff. What are kids interested? What would they like to see added or subtracted from the offerings? So, when Adam brings you two more, these are things that are currently not on
049the list of titles that have been offered over the past, right? And so there's kind of a eb and flow of what you've had in from feedback from students what they're looking for from counselors. >> But I I have never sat in a meeting with the MAU that has said we're going to strike this title from the offering. You can't >> Right. Right. We we know that. I was just wondering if any question that was being asked, well just like we they own the course, but they're not being offered and hadn't been for a long period of time and they Well, how do they get off? >> I mean, >> that was a good question. I I think are we specifically talking about the question that you had Kristen about courses that were >> so
050I I that question there was a question about uh special ed courses that were not that are no longer taught. I don't know whether they're from the course catalog. I don't know whether they were represented in the course catalog. >> Okay. So but um I don't know if they are now. It's my understanding that the and I can confirm that the courses like the law changed and the courses were no like the way that they were being taught were not like applying the law like it did not conform. I can I will I can get specific information and because I don't want to like put words in Dena's mouth and this is my like non- lawyer ears hearing what she's explaining to me. that that was that was the answer of why there were certain
051like a style of special ed class was not being taught in that manner. Um but if there's more specific information I can ask her to come to a meeting to speak up for it so I'm not doing something speaking technically incorrect. >> So if that's something that you that you're interested in I can ask her to come to the next meeting. I had another question. Does just again I understand the course conference offerings change but um there used to be a class called strength and conditioning. Would this be kind of like a replacement for that because that teacher has left? >> There's still strength and conditioning. >> There is still Okay. I wasn't aware that okay so this would be an addition to >> addition there is still strength. there's a new teacher like with
052old courses like when I used to teach social studies I saw contemporary global issues was in the course of studies but I hadn't been taught for like this was me 15 years ago when I was teaching I'm like wait I want to teach that course so it was still there so I brought it back I mean so that's what happens sometimes courses get brought back when teachers see courses that used to be taught that aren't taught economics that happened like economics is back so there are courses we keep them alive in the you know and then sometimes they they reappear. So often times it's the it's the teacher side but strength and conditioning is happening questions. >> Reminder to all those tuning in. We're attempting the devil this evening. So here we go. Um Mr.
053Magcguire is not available this evening but he did send a note. Is it all right if I read that? from the middle school principal. Athletics winter sports getting ready to begin. New at middle school this year is the co-head swim team, which Mike has already mentioned. In addition, they will be offering basketball, co-ed wrestling, and Nordic skiing. Tryyous and practices begin December 1st. Uh November 24th from 5 to 6 at the uh middle school, there will be a clinic called What's My Role for Middle School athletes and their guardians. The clinic provides information regarding spectators, athletes, and coaches. Pizza snacks will be provided. That's what you all wanted to really know. Uh that is made possible by a grant through the Bennington Sports Foundation and a thank you to Tracy Galley and Todd Orway both
054for the middle school that departments making that possible. Wednesday, December 3rd is the last day of the first trimester for all middle schoolers. Sixth grade teachers will have parent teacher conferences taking place on the 11th and 12th. That makes it a half day for sixth graders. It will be dismissed at that time both days. Um, on December 15th, there is a chorus concert taking place at the middle school. That's 7 o'clock. I encourage you to show up for that. I have it on my calendar. And on December 4th and 5th, eighth graders will begin visiting Southwest Tech, uh, looking at all the opportunities that they might be interested in as they transition to the high school. On these same days, students will be attending anformational session in the auditorium, the high school. Want to thank
055the Southwest Tech and the high school for making this available to the middle schoolers. >> So there's no questions a few. >> All right. Let me do two things. As Dr. Abbott gets prepared for her presentation, might make an introduction to the board and the community. Beth Lorge is with us this evening. Beth is the interim assistant superintendent. You may recognize her. She started the year as principal at Powell. Uh she's been there for a couple years. Prior to that, she was in Texas for 15 years, a teacher, an assistant principal and a principal, but don't think she's from the West. She's a native of North Adams, a proud graduate of Drury High School and Williams College. And I am so very, very grateful to the board to have her on board. She's been a
056huge help just in the few weeks she's been with us. So, welcome to Beth. Welcome. >> Welcome. All right. Uh my second uh teammate this evening is Dr. Kate Abbott. Uh Kate is the director of student services for the SPSU. She will be the last of the directors presenting to you. This again goes with the August, September, October, and November presentations from various directors uh giving you an update. Gates is a little bit different than everybody else. What I asked her to do was uh the state of Vermont uh there needs to be an extra little one as well. >> Um state of Vermont presented a report on the state of special education. I asked Dr. Abbott to go over that this evening. She'll do that in about a 10 or 15 minute window. She
057will be coming back with me in the spring to talk about the audit, not the spring, in January to talk about the audit that this board has supported us doing through Dr. Roy. Um, so tonight is a state view and next time we come and see you, we'll be talking about SVSU. I want to thank you, Dr. Abbott, for being with us this evening. >> Thanks. >> So, uh, you might have heard about Act 73. So, um, tonight we're going to talk a little bit about Act 73 through the lens of the special education implications of this act. And, um, the agency of education has released a report specifically related to the implications for special education under act 73. So, that's what I'm going to cover tonight. All right, that worked. That's good. So uh
058we'll talk a little bit about the legislative report from the agency of education on special education, the current landscape uh of special education in Vermont in in the context of larger education system and the considerations and next steps both for our district and for the state primarily for the state but as we situate ourselves within that. So act 73 and how does act 73 pertain to special education. So um act 73 really has a number of drivers within it but primarily when it relates to special education uh the legislature has been very concerned about the way uh we deliver special education and the cost drivers to the overall budget as it relation to special education services. So in terms of Act 73, we're looking at how those services are funded across the state and the
059continuum of services available to students within districts across the state in Vermont. Act 73 and special education. So um one of the first um tasks that was laid out in act 73 was a report from the special education division within the agency of education about the state of the state of special education delivery in Vermont. So uh I'm going to cover this is a not a small report but I'm going to cover some of the highlights um from the agency of education related to um special education state of state in terms of population the drivers of the costs of special education as well as um the concept of extraordinary expenditures in special education and why that terminology matters. Um to know So, as we talk a little bit about uh the the extraordinary expenditures, extraordinary
060expenditures are any students uh ex program costs that exceed in the legislature was $65,000. Now, with inflation, it's more than $67,000. So, when we talk about extraordinary expenditures, we're talking about when an individual child's uh education costs more than $67,000. Um why is this important to know? Um we know that um there are a small percentage of children with complex disability whose uh overall program costs exceed that amount. What the state has found is that the um extraordinary expenditures are really the drivers of the increase in the cost of special education to the state as a whole. So we want to think about those extraordinary expenditures as we talk about the cost of special education. So landscape um the landscape of education in Vermont um in these two you'll see in this chart there's two
061lines. The blue line is the total population of students enrolled in Vermont schools. And as you can see from the chart, that total number has dropped since 2019, 2018-19. However, the red line that's increasing is the percentage of students or the rates of students with disabilities. So, as the total population of students in Vermont has has declined, the numbers of students or the rates of students with disabilities within the state have increased. talking about statewide trends in populations. We're talking about complex disabilities here. There's three major um categories of learners of disability types that make up the majority of those extraordinary expenditures. The three are autism, emotional disturbance, and other health impairment. So the state did a deep dive into looking at u what's happening with those types of complex disabilities across the state and
062what they found is that this uh right here the top line that you're looking at um relates to autism spectrum disabilities and over the course of the last 5 years autism rates have increased by 33% across the state. This is not specific to the state of Vermont. this autism rates have incre have increased across the nation over the course of that time frame. The other two categories other health impairment and emotional disturbance which are also major drivers of um those the extraordinary cost have also um shown an uptick in uh the course of those time frames. So you'll see in terms of the the um other health impairment, which is a green line. I'm sorry I gave the wrong color the last time. Um has significantly increased over those those five years. And emotional disturbance
063has not increased. But we're going to take a look at how Vermont identifies social disturbance in the rates in Vermont compared to other states. But those are the three major categories that drive the extraordinary expenditures in special education. So this chart from the agency of education looks at the uh the total number of children identified as having an emotional disturbance in the state of Vermont compared to two other similarly populated states. So for this report, Vermont looked at compared itself to Wyoming and North Dakota as well as to the national average. And there's a couple different um data points in here that are really interesting to look at. Um so when we looked we look at the Vermont's inclus inclusive education rates, Vermont is really good at providing inclusive education. So providing children with opportunities
064to attend the general education setting for 80% or more of the school day um compared to the national average. So Vermont in Vermont children with emotional disturbance are more likely to be educated or they're 62% of our learners are likely to be educated in the general education environment 80% or more of the school day compared to the national percentage which is only 55%. So Vermont is very inclusive. However, when you look at um the continuum of services, Vermont is also after spending you're either likely to have 80% or more of your school day in the general education. Then when you talk about those substantially separate environments within the school day, opportunities to go to different classrooms during the day. Um we have uh similarly but slightly lower rates of those types of placements. But then
065when we get down to that separate school placement, Vermont is in Vermont, you're much more likely to be placed in a completely separate school outside of the district if you have an emotional disturbance compared to um other states. So in Vermont, um the placements in separate schools is 19% for students with emotional disturbance compared to 4% 4.8% in Wyoming and 1.8% in North Dakota. Nationally, the rate of placement in separate schools is 10.7%. So, when we come to placement in overly restrictive environments such as separate schools that are completely separate from the public education setting, Vermont is more likely to um you're more likely to be placed in a completely separate environment in Vermont than compared to um similarly populated states. And this then thrives at high extraordinary cost because not only are you paying
066tuition, you're also paying for transportation when you have children that are educated outside their home community environments. State trends with autism. Similarly, comparing ourselves to um Wyoming and North Dakota, which were two similarly populated states, um the same trend is true. Children in Vermont who have autism are more likely to be educated inside the general education classes for 80% or more of the day. 63% of learners in Vermont with autism are inside their general class setting in uh for 80% or more of the school day compared to 40% nationally. Um however, the same trend is true. You'll see when we look at the separate school placements. So nationally 5.8% of students with autism are placed in separate schools. In Vermont, that's 9%. Compared to Wyoming at 1.9% and North Dakota at 1.3%. So, we are
067great at educating the majority of po of the population within the general education environment. However, when someone needs a little bit more um specialized instruction, our tendency in Vermont is to have either completely general education or the majority of general education or move quickly to a outside of public education placement which then incurs the cost of tuition and transportation which then drives that high cost um reimbursement rate. state transucational environments. Um so what the state has noticed in their report is that um it's raised the question does Vermont have the necessary resources to adequately serve all of our students in their schools question >> because our HAR suggests that we do um very well with um the majority of students but then we click quickly move when someone needs something um different or more to
068a separate school environment altogether which then is the driver of that extraordinary cost that we saw. And that extraordinary cost um a very small percentage of students needs then drive the extraordinary costs within the budget uh for the state. So over a six-year period, the growth in extraordinary costs makes up roughly half of the increase in the total special education budget while it only accounts for 15% of our total population. So this uh the likelihood of communities to use private school separate schools is the major cost driver for special education across the state since 2018. Medicaid is is, you know, everyone loves Medicaid. Talking about Medicaid, I'm just kidding. Not everyone loves us, but Medicaid is a really important aspect of our district budget. So, uh, in the last year, we had over $800,000 in
069Medicaid revenues that we reinvest into programs and services for kids. So, things like hearing and vision screenings, things like mental health. Um, in the state report on special education, they alluded to some major changes coming down uh the pike to schools in Medicaid and how we build Medicaid or um reinvestment funds. So, there's two major changes that we need to know about. Um, first and foremost, there's a statement in in the report that states that Medicaid allocations may be redist redistributed. What that means is we might have more or less Medicaid aid coming to our district in the future and we don't know how that's going to look yet. The other major change that we that is in the report from the agency of education is that we're going to change the billing system for
070how we access those Medicaid reinvestment dollars. So we are looking at moving to a electronic billing system that's going to have a new software attached to it. And so we know that in the next six months we're going to see significant changes to our premises to access those funds as well as potentially what funds are available to our district. Um and thinking about Medicaid, um I liken Medicaid to title. It's a major driver to our services. Um, but we those Medicaid funds are coming from the federal government down to the state government and then the state government allocates to the districts. So we it's a major driver for the services that we provide, but we aren't sure how much we're going to get. So it's an unknown number, but we do know that to access
071that we're going to have to move to electronic health and the expected date for that we've heard from the state is probably July 1. So changing an entire um system of um how we've built is going to be a pretty a huge lift for us uh in that state in that time frame and we don't yet know what uh electronic tool is going to be used. We're also looking at uh in the state report they said we're going to be adding 504 billing as well as IMP billing for services which would be new for our district. So, what I want to leave you with is there's some unknowns uh in what's coming uh in terms of next steps for Medicaid dollars, Medicaid billing, and uh that will come up through our budget process. So, for
072our district's uh next steps, we know that there's a lot of changes across the state in store with Act 73. And so to situate ourselves well to be able to navigate those changes, um we've contracted with Dr. Megan Roy to do an internal audit of our strengths and needs within our own student services uh program delivery. So that with that information, we'll be well situated to be able to navigate changes coming down from the state level. And in terms of Medicaid changes, we will let you know as we know from the state what is in store for us. Um, but there's a lot of unknown there and we are looking forward to hearing in the state about how we will be navigating the new Medicaid reimbursement billing system coming forward. So, lots of changes questions.
073I know you said that this um was the state and I understand um why you presented it, but I'm wondering how the SU falls within those percentages. Are we similar to the rest of the state? Are we lower, higher? It's >> a good question and we got Kate and I have now been able to see the draft report from Dr. Roy and quickly answer that question. We are very close but what Dr. Roy points out is that Vermont as a as a state within the union is higher than the national average. So in autism, I believe we are slightly higher than the state average, but then in emotional disturbance, we're slightly slower, but 19 to 22% of your student population served in a an IEP. So we're very close to the state, but again, the
074state is high compared to the rest of the nation. >> So could we get that comparison? Is that possible to see where we are for each of these categories? And then what do you feel the contributing factors are for the increase of 504s and its >> Yeah. >> So Megan Roy's report is due out in December and we're hoping to have that to the board after it's been processed by principles and directors. Correct. >> Yeah. Sorry. It does. Absolutely. >> And that's going to kind of parse out how our district looks in comparison to the state. >> Well, we I can say this. We are close. We are plus and minus ones and twos and things like that. But Dr. clear the state of Vermont is high compared to the state of the nation too.
075So that's something to balance it. >> I'm curious what other states are doing differently. Um and also you mentioned that we're there's going to be new billing for 504s and um and that's new to our district. Are there other districts already doing this? And what does that look like? >> The whole state, the whole state has to change. So, >> so nobody else is doing this. >> What's in the report states that they're moving to electronic health records billing system for the state? >> Yeah. >> So, the state is going to adopt a new technology for the entire state to use for billing. >> Okay. >> And then we will be adopting whatever the state requires. >> Okay. >> And I would connect that to Act 73. If you've spent time reading all 100 pages,
076it's a very it's a very there are lots of systems that are supposed to be adopted over the next five years. So those of you >> three months, I'm sure. >> Yeah, that's coming from an experienced educator who's seen this before. So a promise of all these new systems coming online and working flawlessly out of the box, I would offer that as a cautionary tale. >> I'm sure Rene can speak to how great the financial roll out was when they did. Yeah. >> Yeah. At at a thing we were at earlier this month, they said that the Medicaid system is actually out for proposal right now. So they don't they haven't even >> Lord. >> Yeah. They don't have the software. >> Can I add one thing and then I So I won't navigate it
077tonight, but on the website, the spu.org website, there are two places that we encourage folks to check out. >> On the top of the menu, it says superintendent. It says department and underneath that is superintendent. Underneath that is all of these reports that we've shared August to today. So if you missed something, I want to go back and see that Tim, you can see that we've also put all the newsletters in there, the podcast, the YouTubes, all that that you want to check out. All this is an effort to communicate with the community, share information, inform the boards as they get into the work that will be next month for this board, which is budget. And then also on the screen is a button specifically for act 73. So legislation the map discussion. I haven't
078included everything on social media because I would blow up the website. But if you're interested in that, that's kind of where we're putting it. It is on the front page of the website so you don't have to go traveling and looking for it. We hope that helps you. So then these kinds of reports that we get here at the board would be there before we have the the >> No, we want to show it to the board first and then I and that was my request. We wanted the board to see the report and then we're putting it up on the website for you to see as well. >> Okay. I'll bring up once again the equity issue in terms of I know nobody here necessarily has vision impairment or something, but that was something
079that was brought up at the VSBA um conference last year and I asked about it then um >> and we've talked about it several times and I think you and I have spoken about it again recently. We're talk like we're talking about whether perhaps it could come out when the packet comes out or come out with the warning, right? the the one of the ch like one of the things >> that I would you know I think they're they're concerned and I would want to make clear like part of some of these materials are their tools to for a picture right and or for a presentation that like is not in that packet. So I think sometimes like having um people take those tools beforehand and not getting the whole framework is creates challenges in
080the delivery you know and or preconceived like ideas before people walk in the door with it. So I think finding a balance of like getting like for instance like everything that Kate didn't that said didn't necessarily represent wasn't represented on this document right this was a tool she used in order to show us right so I think that was where we were talking about the timeline in which we could perhap like it could perhaps be distributed out beforehand and I don't we just haven't >> set like I don't know that we have settled on >> yeah so >> this is a f this is a first time for me and for the directors so that's all good feedback going forward um listing it in one spot. My hope is that if you're talking to the
081community and the community is like, "Oh, I missed it." That you they won't have to navigate 20 layers of the website to find it. So, >> great. Um, thank you. This was a lot of information. I know if people are probably going to process it and I know that we have a meeting and we're going to address it in January. If when you're processing it, you have other questions, please direct them to me and I'll make sure they get to Superintendent Payne and he can distribute them so that they can prepare them for the January meeting. Um, >> okay. CSU report. >> All right. I'm going to be very brief because as Tim alluded to a minute ago, we are doing double duty tonight. There was a there's an SU meeting, SPSU meeting that was
082supposed to start 10 minutes ago. Um, and so I want to quickly um I I teased this in the last meeting. Um, this is more of a public service announcement. Um, if you go to the SDSU website and you go to the search field and you type in the word goals, the very first link that will come up in the search results are the newly um, outlined goals for the SPSSE board which were um, completed by several members of this board who also happen to be on the SPSSE board. Um, and I'm not going to read all of the subheads, but I will just say that the the goals there are are um, sorry, I digress for a second. The goals there are SPSU board goals and then also the superintendent's goals have been outlined
083also on that page. You will see by design that there are a there is a definite continuity between the SVSU goals and the superintendent's goals. You should feel that when you read through them. Um I'm going to just briefly read the headlines of the SPSU goals for this board and then you know hopefully the the the conversation that we can have going forward is how other boards within the SU can also go through a similar function or do the do a similar exercise so that we're all rowing in the same direction. Um so goal number one uh as outlined for 2025-26 align the SPSU's strategic priorities to budget investments and improve the board's capacity for data consumption and monitoring and monitoring accountability. Um that's that's number one. Again there's a lot of sub sub um
084bullets underneath that but um each of these but you can get an idea there. number of um uh the next one is cultivate a strong board super superintendent partnership by delivering a shared transparent understanding of the roles and responsibilities of both the superintendent and the board uh and review SVSU's governance processes to ensure that they they are streamlined and improve the effectiveness of the governance and the system overall. Um, and then the last one is stay apprised, and this is a this is a big one, everchanging. Um, just ask Superintendent Payne, stay apprised of statewide developments in regional conversations related to Act 73 of 2025 and actively participate in the consideration of options for the SVSU. So, the goals are outlined on the SU website. Just go to the website, type goals. the very first
085link that comes up will be both the SU goals and the superintendent's goals. Um, and if anybody has, you know, ever has any questions as you read through them, um, feel free to reach out to me. Thank you. >> You I so I want to, um, have I know that we are past our deadline. I think the goals are a super important conversation that probably need to be a little bit longer than this. Um, so I think we're going to put it as an agenda item for the future because ultimately I think none of the board should have goals as well and uh ideally they should uh they should be specific for our district but in alignment with the SU's board or or the SU's goal. Um, you know, uh, so >> I think we'll
086just make I mean you can ask quick questions, but I just I feel like ultimately we should have a broader conversation if so I are people okay with that? So >> great night. The goals are on the agenda every meeting we got and get that those are on there so that everybody can see what they are for Mount Anthony along been there for a number of years. So they still >> but are the goals in line with >> they You said something was really important. The goals at mount at this SPSU and the superintendent at that level is definitely going to be different than the Mount Anthony goals and the principal because we are on the ground contact. And so those look don't forget about what the goals are for the high school and the
087students because that's important and our activities as a board is is being considered in the in the goals that are there now for the district for Mount Anthony. Whoever starts to say we want to talk about the goal, take a look at the ones that we already got and we may be able to tweak something along that line, but we definitely need to be focused at this level down a tier three, >> right? >> Sure. Yes. And I think this is probably why we should have a broader conversation, but you know, like if we're holding the superintendent accountable to these SU goals and the SU is, you know, like like we we can't we should make sure that our goals aren't in complete conflict because then the SEU will never be able to I there's
088going to be no accountability. So I don't I just think we should revisit it and if we feel that it's appropriate then we can keep them and if not we'll leave the others. Any other questions? That's for Scott. >> Okay. >> Um do you have questions for I just wanted to say that um I really appreciate and I emailed Mr. uh print superintendent pain. But I think it was great that um if you didn't see it, superintendent showed up at the town select board and presented how the budgets um here at this level are created because I think most people this think that all the monies go into one pot and that's how their people's taxes are figured out. And I think he did a really great job at explaining it and I think it's
089an important partnership to be close with the town and I thought it was terrific. Thank you. >> Yeah, I think that's on the website, too. You said that, right? It's on the website. >> It's part of the goals, too. >> Part of the goals. It was great. >> Any other questions for Superintendent? >> Um, the chair I'm going to keep this quick. The chair's report. We do have an action item. Um, Rene, you want to speak to it or? >> Uh, sure. Um, so our district clerk has submitted her resignation. That's Cassie Barbo who's retiring and moving. Um, so as part of that, yeah, on vacation right now, but >> so December 5th, end of business is when she uh officially concludes. So with that resignation, um, state statute requires that this board uh appoint
090a replacement. Um, it is uh the recommendation of the outgoing district clerk to appoint her. what is now her assistant um clerk and I know that the town actually appointed her the other night too as the new town clerk as well for Bennington. So that would be Kayla Thompson. Um I have reached out to Kayla. She is um able and willing to accept the appointment. Uh she would have to run for the seat which would be um the term actually begins July 1, but we will be voting in March um for that. And the role of this, the district clerk is different than the board clerk because they are responsible for managing elections. Um, making sure that the the voters on the petitions are actually registered voters. They help deal with the ballots, make sure
091that the warnings are correct, seats are open, not open. They keep the official records of everything of the board. So, it's it it's a it's an elected position provided through statute, and there's a $1,500 or $2,000 stipen that we vote on every year for that as well. So, we just need the board to, if they so choose, um, to appoint Kayla. >> I'd like to make the motion to appoint Kayla Thompson as our clerk. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I um can I have a motion to please? I got one other thing for you is that uh and and it it would be remiss to not say this. For the first time since I've been here, we had more representation from the southern part of the state at the annual school board meeting
092than anybody else there. We had seven members. Five are in here right now. And we made some noise. And it's the only way you're going to get some things is to be present and speak your mind to everybody. And the South had not done that in the past. And so we made some noise. And the other two came from the career development center. And if you read the the note from the annual school board, that was a little ticker in there that talked about uh CTE about special I mean taking care of things along that line. So I encourage everybody to participate as much as possible either online, travel or whatever, but be be active. >> Yeah, definitely enjoyed that. >> We learned a lot. >> Yes, the spirited conversation with >> Yes, we did.
093I'm loving it. >> Okay, now you >> Okay, thank you. Can I have a motion to adjurnn? some food seconds.