April 22, 2026 Grapeview School District Board Meeting

001I'll break fruit and something else. Okay. Anything else for that Monday? Any requests? And then we'll move on down to May 4th through the 8th. Uh third and third through 8th grade is doing the SBA testing. May 18th through the 21st is spring I ready. So that's reading and math testing. They're hitting it hard. Um May 25th is Labor Day holiday weekend. And May 27th is the next board meeting. So um Les, you will not be at the next one. >> No. >> Lance will be at the next board meeting. Okay. >> And you two you will be here. We're here. >> It's be there or be sure. >> Move on down to the consent agenda. Can I please have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> Is there a second? I'll >> second

002it. uh comments, questions. >> Is uh Andrea coming today? >> No, but she left us a packet to look through. So, I was going to just have you guys look through the packet and if you have any questions. >> Okay. I have a question about Amplify Education, Inc. and Curriculum Associates. >> Are we on the >> I'm sure there's someone in here. It's the uh >> you're going to speak on that. >> So keep that for the um >> session >> for the principal report then. >> We I know uh >> never mind. >> Once we agree to the consent agenda, we basically agree to the expenditure. So if there's if there's any questions on that we have we ought to be able to ask it now right >> he's going to cover it >>

003right now report >> do you want >> that will be published after we >> vote for the >> are you okay with that >> wait a minute okay >> because once we vote on it this is approved and the expenditure just go through. >> I trust. >> Okay. >> I mean, we could we could we could pull those two items out until the explanation or Cindy could explain down and pull them out of her report. >> What would you like, Tom? >> Trust. >> Okay. We will wait for your report then. >> Did you want to ask the questions about this? >> Well, no. I I think the thing that I think Jerry told me that these classified costs were associated with the stip. So yeah, that was my question. >> I have one more

004comment. >> Yes, please. >> Whenever I see a large number of the vouchers and I don't know exactly what it is, I'm just going to ask questions. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, >> well, the curriculum associates, isn't that the teachers you track? >> Okay. >> That's going to be covered in the principal report. >> So, I'm going to move on for a vote. Can we do that? That would be a question. >> I have one I have one question >> on the classified um expenditures. >> Why don't we see what that's for? I mean, I get it's for XY, but here it's just a classified number, but I don't actually see >> what I'm approving. >> Yeah, there's a code there that I don't have memorized. >> You'll see a code up there on those

005>> like A33 and A3. >> Yeah. And I don't know what those are. Right. Is Andrea would know that and she's out because she had surgery. >> I I would just ask >> how much is it for? >> One's for 10,000, the other's for 6,000. >> The top two. So, I would just ask if it's a classified number that we say we're going to approve. I kind of want to know what I'm approving. I mean it I'm sure it's a valid expenditure but anyway it's in the stipens. I think the really question would exist for overtime to run the track team or volleyball team or basketball coach. I think that's >> specifically A333 and A034 >> the coaches are >> that you'll see that down here further for the for the um athletic director right

006and then um that that big number is definitely not uh per track. I I wonder if it's like our payments like the bond or >> the classified I can guarantee you that it is pro it is um related to our classified staff. Um but I can't tell you how what that totally is for. >> Yeah. So no just for the future I I would ask that so and this is mostly for my learning. >> Yeah. And then if you look down the CO33 and CO33 or sorry CO34 the classified again for 27,448 and then the other one underneath is 10,921 and that's classified as well. >> Uh Lance. >> Yeah. Are you looking for the um transaction detail within that line? >> I just want to know what it's for because right now you said

007it's >> But that would but that would tell us. Right. >> Right. Right. I'm just saying if this for coach is for overtime, it's to support XY. >> That's just what I'm looking for. >> Yeah. I All I can say is I did not anticipate that question. You >> It's all good. So it's all good. >> Um we're kind of in a a spot there. No, it's fine. We'll glad to get that for you next year. >> I'm okay with moving forward with it, but just for the future, I I just >> do you want to pull these items out? >> Um, then we won't be able to pay. >> I'm fine with payer. >> Okay. So, we're going to move all the way to a vote uh on this um >> agenda. >> The

008consent consent agenda. All in favor? Hi I do want to go through each slide. >> Um I'm uh I'm next. >> Okay. >> And um you're jealously guarding his plain zombie agenda. All right, J. >> So, um there was uh some wondering about uh Lance was asking about um Olympia School District and the conversation they had over there about needing 400 students for um u for certain funding. And we and I talked a little bit about that earlier, but I brought a couple of I found a couple of useful items on school funding and and and structures that I I included those links there for you. I won't I won't explain all those but they um because they're quite voluminous but if if there was an interest in digging deeper into the way things are

009funded um that specific reference that he Patrick superintendent was referring to is what's called the protottypical school model which is based on um at least with K8 400 students is what they um would um use as their um how I mean, if you have foreigner students, you should be able to drive this many counselors, this many principles, this many um maintenance staff, this many office staff. It's like they're kind of that their number of uh their of what a basic school functioning to to have all the pieces. Um and they call it a prototypical school model, and that's the measure which drives out the funding. So if you uh have 200 kids, you're going to get half that. >> So Jerry, yes. >> The interesting piece of this is then if you if you write

010your prototypical model on a 400 student school >> Yeah. >> and you have many schools that are under 400, you've set yourself up to fail, >> right? Yeah. So um Yeah. Or you make it up from other ways, right? you pull money from from your levy to to cover because it's hard to have a part-time principal. >> Right. Right. >> Um and so you um or what happens is that sometime you have a part-time counselor, >> right? or you have um an office person that handles multiple different responsibilities um instead of a so you kind of uh what ends up happening in in smaller places you end up having to wear lots of different hats. >> Yeah. But in Olympia school district a $5 million deficit 4.8 million. >> Yeah. >> That's a lot of

011change. >> Yeah. >> I mean that's drastic. >> Yeah. um as a percentage of their budget, it's probably um for us that'd be our whole budget, right? Um for them, they have about 10,000 students and so um that that would be hard, but not as for as percentage, right? >> No, I just I just article read there's like five or six schools that didn't meet that criteria. >> Yeah. Yeah. They they've struggled with that for a long time. I remember when I was in Rochester, Matt visited one one of their um board members talking when they were focused on the tiny schools and how they want do how do they want to manage that. I know and one of the tiny schools that I was pretty familiar with, they had a part-time principal. That principal

012also took on some title one responsibilities for the district to kind of to make that wash out. So there's um some really interesting resources for you there as we want to dig deeper into the structures of school finance. Um uh moving down um risk management conference. So we we are with the Washington state risk management pool as our insurance. It's more of a pool than an insurance company but um we bunch of districts belong to there. We switched a few years ago because it saved us a small fortune. >> Is that for liability? >> Yeah. for different things, >> kind of everything. >> Okay. It's just Okay. >> Yeah. Um and um they um one of the things that I liked about them along primarily they're cheaper, but also they're a little bit more proactive

013in terms of working with school districts and administration about um being thoughtful about risk and risk management. So creating plans and I meet with their risk management people twice a year and talk about various things. Um so that's useful and they also have workshops grants and um uh for folks um and I applied for the grant for their um the risk man the risk management conference that's in Florida and uh they they're funding it. So um I was selected to receive um uh payment to cover my uh attendance at the national risk management conference. So hopefully I will learn learn a few things. I find it kind of fascinating um to think about as I watch different schools make different choices and sometimes poor choices and um then they get in trouble and wonder why.

014Right. Um, so anyways, I'm looking forward to that. I'm also that's in June and May I'm going to the superintendent conference. Um, I haven't gone in a few years. I'm looking forward to that. That's a great networking opportunity and some good instruction. Um, there is a a company that um sponsors um some grants for technology. So they they do technology and they have a bunch of um providers that work for them. I don't know if that's the word, but companies that work under them to work for them. And they have a a a series of grants. They give two away in the state to um for technology resources. Um and I applied for that and they chose us. And so they offered us $50,000 for some um security technology and we had to kind of

015choose which category we wanted it. Um uh and so I asked for um what I'm hoping to get is a a door camera. You know how we have a camera up front where you push a button? I'm hoping to get one in the back so that our kids from the middle school can come in that back door and be 11. Um so anyway, we got $50,000 grant to >> Is that a onetime thing or is there a maintenance thing that goes along with that that we endured? >> Yeah, I think it's a one time thing. Um um we might have to um to make it work how I want. I don't know it's fully included. I asked for the install of camera door camera. Um I don't know that that includes like any kind of

016push button to unlock it, release it. So we might have to kick in a little bit of our own to make that happen. But I think that will be a dramatic in influence um in terms of safety and risk. as I sit in my office and I watch middle schoolers go to the front door, have to go all the way around the front to be let in. Um, and also workload relief and for some of the office staff as well. So, um, we'll I'll let you know more when I know I was awarded the $50,000. I'll let to know how that works out. Um, so you might have seen an invitation. WASDA has a region regional meetings throughout the state where they they move it around a few years back. It was in Shelton, but

017now our region is meeting in Tanino. Um, if you're interested in going, I' I've attended it and I thought it was very useful. Um, it's board members get together and talk about board stuff. So, if you want to Yeah, you might want to jump if you're interested, you might want to jump on that and register. it'll come around again next year. Um, while looking at that, I noticed that there's a um WASDA professional development leadership academy that they have some opportunities there. I included the link if you're interested. Um, so uh the last one um is says great school reporting. So I'm going to throw up the screen because I'm going to use that a little bit. Lance was posed or Lance was posed a question by a community member um who bought substantial home

018down on the loop and and um they had talked um about our schools and that's like yeah awesome schools and then she went on Zillow. If you ever looked on Zillow, if you scroll all the way down to the bottom, there's a report on schools, right? It should. So, and um uh and she saw that the really low score and asked him like, "That doesn't gel with what you said, right?" And so, I start started doing some research and I'm like, "Okay, I understand." So Zillow, there's a nationwide organization called Grace Schools and they they collect data on schools and they create reports and they so Zillow their reports are driven into the Zillow system and they rate schools so people can have a theoretically an independent third party to provide information about their school,

019right? About schools in the region. So when they're shopping for houses, they can go down to the bottom and go, "Oh, well that's an awful school," or, "Well, that's a good school." So there was a conflict between what she heard from him and what she saw on on Zillow. And so that created me, oh, I need to understand this. Well, in researching it, I saw that it does great. It their data all comes from great schools, which I already had some familiarity with. Um earlier in the year I gone in there and set up our our account um with them and um I'm gonna show you um what okay recent see if I can do it. >> Guess what the rating is of our school first before >> one through 10. >> Let um >>

020here it is. >> Seven >> six. So, you're going to see some ads. I have no control over the ads, okay? So, just so you know. Um, and so, um, I brought up a whole they have a rating of 1 to 10. And, um, and so what goes into that score is, uh, two years ago, scores from two years ago. They have two main parts of their rating system. One of them is improvement um, and then one of them is they're just achievement, right? And so if you're already a good school, you don't get a lot of improvement because you're already performing. Right. Right. Um and so um which is kind of fascinating because some um schools um there's schools that we perform much better than in our region who um got an award for

021improvement and got recognized across the state and OSPI for improvement even though they're still far behind us in overall achievement. >> Mayors, >> which is interesting. I mean, we want them to go up. We want them incentivized to go up, but um it also felt kind of weird. It's like we've been out pacing them for decades. Um and now they get a word. Help me understand that. >> Yeah. >> So um so they have a one to So there two parts. There's improvement and then there's achievement, right? In their scores. Um and so that combines to give, you know, a general rating. So that woman that saw that score, um, what she didn't realize is that even though she's on the Great Loop, she's on the very north end of it, which is actually North

022Mason school district, >> right? So she thought she she I live in Braview. I'm on the Great View loop and my house is this house. It's on Zillow and it says this, which was not very good. Um, and then um, but then less was saying different. It was kind of a a >> well Mason I I've higher than what I >> So I started looking okay what are um what are other schools doing? So I did a a little chat GPT give me the best rated school in Washington state separately from this right uh K8 school because I wanted to compare apples and apples because um that just seemed made more sense. So I I started looking at um some schools and one of them was Mercer, it's a middle school um and what was

023their rated? So Mercer Island, a very affluent community, um had a seven out of 10 overall, right? Not not a 10. Is is there um >> like this with the screen? >> Um yeah. Um I wanted was there salmon? I thought Okay. Um, so there was another one that I I don't have up here right now. It's um in Seattle. It's recognized as probably the best school in the state. It's all it's a choice school. So kids apply to go to it. It's a magnet school. It's a K8 school in Seattle school district. So they're handpicking the very best kids to go to their to their school. And their score was eight out of 10. Right? So it starts to help you understand what does that that that mean, right? What is where are we

024at? So um so um Southside Elementary School is one of our neighbors on the other side of Shelton. Very similar school to us. Um this was fascinating because they had better rating than us. Seven out of 10. We're six out of 10. But how was that? That's a So the the um here's the interesting piece about it. Um they we have better achievement scores than they do. >> You just went past it. >> Right there. >> Up the top. >> Uh oh my gosh, it's hard up. >> It's up the top. >> Go up. >> Scroll down. We come right to it. Just can go there. >> Okay. All right. So, we have better achievement scores in every category, every single category. And we have for decades, right? And they're these, right? Um but um

025they had particularly that year a growth burst and it show so they ended up with a higher rating overall even though these numbers were lower. >> So it's it's a very curious dilemma for me and um and so um >> we should soon >> Yeah. So they're true numbers. they did improve that year and that they weigh really heavy on on on growth um as compared to achievement, right? So, we've had consistently better than for decades. >> Are these being um advertised on Zillow and Red Fin and all of the >> that you would get for real estate? >> I didn't see it on Red Fin. I saw it on Zillow. I don't um but what I do know is that when if you go to do a search about schools, you're not going to

026get OSBI's report card. You're going to get great schools. >> Yeah. >> Right. And so, um their rating system is it >> how how does how does OSPI rate us? And and >> so there's a report card which I didn't prepare to talk about. Um that's part usually associated with their report on on um our our testing and report. Um so Southside got a seven out of 10 even though our achievement scores are higher. >> Show our scores too. >> Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Right here. Um okay. So, um, so this is the state average, that dot right there. And so we're consistently better than the average in the state. Could we improve? Yeah, good. Um, but um, we're working on that always. That's a constant change. So we, um, our where's our over

027six? >> Uh, there. >> So we had a seven and a five student progress. So our our progress was kind of even right um but our achievement was higher consistently higher and so that works into a six. So we are better than average in the state. Um we are six the best school in the state is an eight right. Um and um so um there's also an opportunity which if you wish to you can there's a place for reviews where we can have some influence on that. Um, so I recently got that opened up so people could do that and I asked asked a few people. Um, I think we have one recent review. The others were like five, six, seven, eight years old, right? Um, and so we only have eight of them, but

028we're we're going to push to get more people to put their personal testimonies on there of their vision of our our school because I think that's that's super important, the testimony. There were two sites. There was the the Zillow site and she was also looking at windows. >> Okay. So they they might run it off of great schools. >> Take it from, >> you know, because a lot of the real estate companies siphon their infill from, you know, gathering, you know, instead of paying the money. >> Yeah. So Great Schools does, it's a nonprofit, but they probably get paid money to to have a fee to drive it in there. They connect all of their listings for other real estate companies and it all kind of aggregates. >> Yeah. So, um, this was a new

029learning for me, but I do think if you ever want to do a search on schools, you get on there, >> you're going to end up here. It's almost always to the top, right? And so, people might ask you questions now, you'll have at least a little bit of information about it. Um so we were >> conversation she came to me and said well gra >> yeah so um so that >> where one is the highest >> so um >> Chris right >> she yeah um so that was North Mason school district the high school was a two um Belfare Elementary was a three um And I don't know what the middle school was. >> Um, North Mason High School was a was a two. >> Yeah. >> Well, look at Belg. Was that a

030three three? >> How is that? >> That's this is their this is their system of evaluating state achievements. >> But also, here's a here's a curious thing. Kids don't we tell them they have to take the test, but they don't have to take the test and they don't even have to try on the test. Has zero implication for a child. Right. >> Wait, what? >> The state test, there's zero implication for the child. So originally back in George Bush when it was like you have to be accountable and if you take the test if you want to move forward behind monster. >> Yeah. And so now there's they they said well you can't hold the kid accountable for that you can't have a consequence for kid or that and even the kid can choose not

031to test. Right. So, um, that that our kids don't generally do that because we just have a history of building it into their lives, but a lot of places I've had kids are like, "Nah." >> Then they just sit there and do nothing. I'm not taking it. Or the parents don't want them to take it. So, if you as a parent don't want your kid to take the test and you just say, "I'm going to opt out." We have to let you opt out and it still counts against us. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yes. And so when you see those state test scores, you don't know if that I had kids, they just like 10 minutes, they're done with state testing and they got a super low score and I'm like will you please

032try and like and you give it back to them and you say and they're like no thanks. Right? That reflects on their scores and we can't do a thing about it. Right? High school kids figure this out and they don't have to take the test. the ones that are good students and are interested and care, they might take the test. But um >> you want to have a good job someday. >> Yeah. >> But a lot of kids figure out there's no implication. It's not reflected on I don't think getting into college. Um and we can't hold them back. It doesn't mean anything for them graduating. And so they really don't care. >> But they're taking that information and using it against our community. >> Right. So we as a school are accountable for that.

033>> Wow. But the child has no there's no connection for the child. No requirement that they do that. And a lot of parents, good parents, good kids, they're like, "Oh no, that's too much stress. I don't want my kid to go through there and get a nice kiss." And so we're not going to do that. >> Right. And so all that goes together when you see those state scores know that there are thousands of kids who don't give a rent. >> Jerry, this is why I wanted to adjourn after the So, I'm so happy I could be >> Now my mood is darkened. >> I should have Lindsay go last. So, I'm so glad I could be a Ray Sunshine for you guys. >> So, that now you understand great schools and their little bit

034of understanding of their rating system and um and then also state testing which we are accountable, kids and families are not. and they frequently blow it up. >> Well, I I appreciate you embellishing a little bit more than from my question because like I said, when it hit me, I was just absolutely flat foot. Yeah. >> I mean, and the person is was, you know, a voter and believes in us and and uh supports us and of course always wants to know how the school's going and and I give a raving review. >> Yeah. Doesn't we just it it is a marvelous school. >> Did you say, "Well, it's better than one." We are above average >> even on their data. Um and um >> gosh >> and and which is awesome, right? The very

035best schools in the state are sevens and eights, right? So um now you know about great schools and I'm so glad I could be a great cheer there for you. >> Yeah. Well, I have a question. Oh, Tommy, >> back three, four, five, six years ago, uh, Great View was able to achieve a school of distinction award. And WA was in in the mix in there. And every year when I read the was the uh news, they list the schools of distinction and there's pictures and everybody's happy. Uh we're at least as good today as we were when we got those awards. I >> think we're better a while back. I would like to see us pursue how we can. >> So, I had some words with OSPI and I invited to Cindy to that

036meeting that I had a real disagreement with their methodology for evaluating their awards that they have that they did this last year. So, um a school district um near us um super awesome um they have historically been very low and so the Washington state recognized two groups. the super high achievers, there's about a dozen of them, and then students the improvement, right? So, a school district that continues to have far lower scores than us um was recognized from the state, was in the paper for achievement and growth, right? They did grow and they grew a lot and it was really good and they got all kinds of acclaim for it and yet they were still the lowest. So we were we're not the highest. We're above average and good, right? But um so we didn't

037get in that column and because we've just stayed good, we didn't have any big bumps of achievement. And so um we didn't get in this column either. And so we had a real conversation about their faulty data when it came to the TK systems and they recognized that their g their methodology was not good and they acknowledge that and said they're going to go back and take a look at that um because um what they were basically doing is they were look there's a a teacher assessment for TK kids, right? and they evaluate them for all these standards um that that these children should have as they readiness for kindergarten, right? The kindergarten readiness inventory. And so and then the next year they evaluate a new group and then they they they compare them and

038I said, "Well, you can't those are two different groups of children. You can't measure growth with two different groups of kids because they and they're they're they were totally um understood that we were correct and their methodology was not good. >> It was flawed >> and and so they're going to take a look at it. But um because I was kind of annoyed by come up with that. >> Yeah. I don't know. They the the guy's like, "Yeah, you're right. I've mentioned that and we need to take a closer look at it." So, we'll see if they they do that because um it keeps the growth. >> No, no. I I think it's interesting that you're the whole grade schools thing is trying to make poor performing districts or school districts feel better. And so,

039I think it's a follow the money issue, right? Because if you have all people, if you can say you have a good school district by looking at that grade, >> when in reality you do not, >> you you're going to move there, >> you know. So I think it's I think it's a little disingenuous on their methodology. >> What? >> Yeah. So um it's a lot of it's heavy on growth growth. We look at student growth and we value that. Um and um you know but heavy >> 50%. Right. >> Right. Yeah. So I mean that's that's what they do. I don't think I'll get them to change that. Um but I want you guys would understand how that rating is brought together and if people ask you about our school and they come up

040with a number like that you can say well this is great schools and so on and so forth. Sorry. One of one more com one of the things that is helpful to us when it comes time to run another levy >> any ammo that we have in our gun >> along those lines is valuable to us because people will ask you >> yeah and if we notice >> because they they might have a little bit of data but they might not have any context >> picture mason scores Yeah, >> I mean that's shocking to me a two >> go. My kids went there and I mean it was great for you but it wasn't hell on earth either. Yeah. >> But in that school lots of kids achieved really good. >> Yeah. >> And some

041chose not to. >> Yeah. >> Wow. And you're looking at precoid educational trends and postcoid educational trends. >> This was two-year-old data. >> 23. >> Yeah. So, >> and in that time frame, we're still suffering the effects of CO on the education system. >> Okay. Can we move on to any more comments, Miss Cindy? Okay. I'll save the curriculum for last because I'll there will be a lot of numbers. But um speaking what Jerry talked about, we did have the science fifth grade and eighth grade state test today. >> Testing is a school culture thing too though, right? So if you have a culture of like high expectations then and we have a small school like Miss Le and I walked around two of those classrooms had individual talks with kids who we knew we

042know last year this happened like you can have those direct conversations we have our it's different when you have a culture of like this is the test this is a part of life right um and we have the ability to do that on a smaller scale. So, um we take the test seriously. Kids have to check with teachers before they click submit. You know that we have high expectations and not all kids will pass, right? But they have to try their best. So, um it's an integrity thing. So, that was today. We have some kids that aren't done yet, so we'll finish tomorrow. And then we did change the um dates for testing to give all the kids one week of break in between. We haven't done that in the past, but there's a lot

043of testing burnout, right? Especially if they're taking their time. Um we don't put a time limit on their tests like some of the big districts systematically have to do because you only have you have so many kids testing. You you have one day to take reading. our kids have the time that they need. Um, so one week break in between. So we'll start um ELA the week of the 4th, then give them a break and start math the week of the 18th of May, and then I ready June 1st. Um, so they'll have a break and that's state testing the playground installation. they're going to do um starting June 8th through June 18th. Um and we're going to extend that playground with the grant that we received and Tony's working it's two separate projects and

044he'll also be working on the track but we're going to get the playground installed the ext the extension. So that June board meeting you'll actually be able to see that. Pretty cool. Um, I just want to highlight Mr. Olsen who is running K kids. So, Kuanis, it's part of Kuanas. And every Wednesday they're out there doing all sorts of student le projects. So, and he's the leadership teacher for fifth grade. So, um, the kids love it. They get to meet with me and explain their projects. So, that's amazing. Um now for some or and then one other thing field trip. Have you guys ever heard of Day of Champions? >> Yeah. Um it's think about like an inclusive um sports or track event or for students who otherwise may be unable to access either physically

045or other um disabilities normal like track event. Um >> yeah, >> it's made for them. So, we're going to send some kids and some teachers to North Mason. We were invited this year and Day of Champions. So, we'll have pictures, but it'll be it's really good. Um, all right. Enrollment. We had 84 families. You think of a school with two, let's round up to 240 kids, 84 families with multiple children. That's quite a few responses back to returning enrollment. Um out of those 84 families, we only had a total of um two students say that they're for sure moving out of district. Good. We're happy for them. It's a good reason. And then um five that are uncertain due to work situations. Maybe they're moving. Everyone else said yes, we're coming back. So >> that's

046good news. So what again the detailed what kind of projection then do you think we might have for next year? >> Well it's hard to tell with like incoming kindergarteners and whatnot but um well I guess what I'm saying is I'm not too worried about enrollment for next year. Yeah. >> So our 210 budget number is not a concern. >> Not not for me. Um and then we have 23 on the waiting list for TK. OSPI came out with our, you know, there were TK budget cuts. They our our funding is 14.6. So 14 kids and the torso of a child. I'm kidding. 14.6 is our FTE for that. So we're aiming at 15 kids. 15 to 16 for our TK. >> Are those 26 kids all in our district that are interested? Um 17

047are in our district >> and we have to say no >> to seven. >> Yeah. And our the needs are so we have a hierarchy of like needs. So students have special needs that we want a year within that's the whole purpose of TK is >> we have an extra year of them to get ready for school. Um, so those enrollments will be coming out soon. We're just finalizing making sure the people that say they're in district are actually in district, right? So that's in ongoing. Um, okay. Curriculum. I'll give you some numbers because I I know some of you have been in business in your past. the Amplify Desmos. Um, we worked really hard on the pricing. So, just so you know, they gave us a quote of $80,863 for 6 years for kindergarten

048through algebra. This is math. >> Mhm. Which is It's already amazing. I've been to so many classes watching it. It is so good. It builds like conceptual knowledge. it it's going to be fantastic. Um, so instead of the $80,863, we are paying $65,567. >> Next time I buy a car, >> you're going to help. >> It's a business, right? So, you have to, you know, >> squeeze. >> Yeah. And then I already we had to get really creative with because I said we're not paying over this amount. So this is the Amplify Education Inc. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> That's our kindergarten through 8th grade. >> We've always done two separate curriculums. Now we just have one. >> Awesome. >> How long is that curriculum? Do we have it for? >> Six years. >> Mhm.

049>> And like math expressions, we're out of our cycle with that, but we spent just I think it was around $5,000 for K through five just to buy the workbooks, right? So even if so you're still using the books but you can get the other resources. >> Yeah. So and then curriculum associates you'll see on there that's the quote for um is it the 76 >> 769 >> 493. >> So that's that's the curriculum associate. >> Yep. They started off at 90,33 >> and we were able to get the sales tax written off >> because it's digital only. There's a loophole. >> So again, what is that? >> That is I ready. So that is our testing that presentation I did last time. testing suite as well as personalized instruction kindergarten through 8th grade. That

050online differentiation and data tracking system that includes professional development for both um that's already scheduled. Um so yeah, >> and includes individualized instruction. >> Yeah. >> So that's a very valuable piece of that. We have assessment tools that teachers can use for driving their own instruction, but it also drives um tells the kids you need to work on these specific areas and can you can it has individual assignments that those kids can do that are uniquely oriented towards their deficits >> and and and English language. So now is this 130,000 40,000 and this coming out of our levy funds then? Um essentially I mean it's the the pot we have money for >> excess in the pot for that >> and this is the one time for six years other than pay the material costs

051right >> uh actually material costs are all included for six years there's no there's no shipping there's no storage fees it's we won't pay anything else >> um okay for six years for both >> so so having a locked in contract >> Mhm. is good but what happens if the technology somehow changes we're locked in and can't take advantage of new technology get six years too long contract >> no that's standard and actually that is financially responsible for us so I will tell you with math expressions they did come out with a 2022 version and we had the 2016 version they were required to send we were still within contract they had to send us all new books >> for the updated um copyright Okay. >> So, >> not worried about it. >> Okay. Thank

052you for that answer. >> We didn't have to pay shipping or anything at all. Okay. >> No. So, any Tom, did that answer your questions? >> Right on. >> Okay. Cool. >> Thank you. >> Is that it? >> Thank you. >> What's pre kindergarten? Yeah, it's foury old. >> Got it. Thank you. >> So, legally, they have to be four years old. >> Just like kindergarten, you legally have to be 5 years old by August 31st. So, >> I knew what prek was, but I didn't know what I just turned. >> Yeah. >> It's It's been a great debate in the state. It's technically TTK. I know. >> Um it was transition kindergarten and then um the state legislature got all worked up about it being put into effect without their oversight um because it

053kind of came via OSBI. So they had a big legislative brew haha about it and they made some changes in TTK. >> They're still Yeah. and it's technically not part of basic ed and um which means that it's not a requirement and um it's something that is available but not a requirement but it's funded >> it's funded at a cap yeah and then >> that's why I was asking because we can only take so many students >> okay because we don't get any funding above X students right >> is that based on our size of school >> perhaps and I think I'm not sure how they drove that new formula for the cuts. I think they took how many kids we had and they just chopped it like 20%. Um I wasn't sure. >> I

054tried to get a TK program over there. I just wanted four kids and they would not let me add four kids to my other school. >> Okay. >> They just absolutely cut me out. >> Would not allow. >> That's Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um and Iounded them. Um they would not budge. Um and um so uh but we were already in in the mix and so there's districts out there which are quite a few who didn't get on board don't get to have a TK program. >> They didn't jump on so they never get it. >> Right. >> That's terrible. >> It is terrible. and they prioritize. So we if we would have started last year it with the first count at 16 like we are right now in that class then they would have

055funded us there but they they took an average. um we didn't see the cuts necessarily because we're a rural we're a rural district and so yeah I forgot one thing though but it's not about >> that's the question that I was wondering is where do we this the kids that we say no to do they go to Pioneer do they go to North there's no option >> no so that's why um we're prioritizing our in district kids >> because we know that there's no child care options for in district kids. >> Um >> and then we have to go based on their developmental needs. >> Gotcha. >> access to special education. Um so if a kiddo already knows to count to 10 or 20, they're going to get overlooked versus the kid that doesn't know

056how to count 20. >> We don't go in and test the kids for that. But like let's say they come in from the developmental preschool with a already have an IEP and they've already been through the child find program um identified as needing extra support have to take them over the the student that's just applying. >> Our goal is to try to take all of our kids >> Yeah. In our absolutely >> but it sounds like there's more than >> we will probably I mean where we funded at 14.6 six. We're going to kind of round up a little bit because >> I was going to say, do you ever kind of try to take one extra? >> Yeah, we will. >> Look at that because it doesn't you have to consider class size and

057how many kids they can serve. We have to have a limit. >> But um we already are funding the class. So we we're going to >> do our best to get as many kids in there. >> Nice. Can I say one more thing about character strong because you asked about the people going um we were able to with the spotlight school um have registration comped for two extra people and then being chosen for our project which we wrote heavily to highlight a rural school because we get savvy with with things And I think people need to hear more about rural schools. So, um that's the lens we took as along with student leadership. We got two more seats for that. So, a total of four um were on the house. >> Nice. >> We originally

058planned I think for and then Lindsay I before we heard about all this we also got discounted. Oh, they wanted her back. They wanted her back to >> I I wrote an email and said, >> she's available. No, I mean, they would probably her, but no, she's not available, but she would like to go to this conference and you would like to have her here because she's a Yeah. So, >> we sent several people last year and a couple more the year before. So, we kind of slowly progressed through our staff so they could have that opportunity to participate. question uh on the TK. Actually, it's not a question. It's a comment. I've discussed the TK or the PK that we had prior to that with people out of district and just families that I

059know uh in Mason County and some in Pierce County. the benefit of having children come out of a challenged social structure in their family and be able to get into TK/PK. It enables them to step into kindergarten, >> right? >> Way ahead of if they just came out of that maybe chaotic environment. They show up and they haven't had any kind of educational or numbers, reading, anything. >> Y that's very valuable. And um they shifted a lot of the money just so you know politically they shifted money from TK and they gave it to early DCF um and um they're to work with um ECAP preschool programs. And so I've been in communication with them to try to see if there's ways that we could create something around here for that as well. But that's

060just >> what's the difference between ECAP and the TK. >> Um >> well, one doesn't know where a lot of >> their funds are. Yeah. Like $400 million, but we can't tell you where it is. >> Yeah. Yeah. So um >> that's a >> Oh, I'm sorry. I say that out loud. >> That's absolutely accurate. >> You know, you gota fund you gota fund people that don't know how to how to do that. >> Well, >> um I did have a question. I just remembered what year did we start speaking? So, uh, Southside Superintendent and there were a group of superintendents um that >> benefit that they they wrote a grant and so for two or maybe three years that grant covered the cost. Um, but really and it was Jerry's work on that some

061of us dabbled in it before we went full-blown schoolwide. So I want to say this is probably our third year of full implementation. >> The first year was just dipping your toes in it getting nowhere and then we then we drove hard on it. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions, comments? Okay. Um let's move on down to operational services. Jerry wants to speak. So, as you know, our wonderful finance manager, Andrea, um is out. She has surgery. So, um her normal report um she won't be presenting that, but she did provide it. She put that together for you. Um and I don't know if you have any questions. Um it's a similar format that she always has. Our enrollment is um 23 above our budget amount which gives us um uh enhanced revenue and

062you know allows us to a little more work when it comes to buying curriculum and doing some other things around the the building that we're hoping to do. Um uh >> Jerry, should we shouldn't we send Andrew get like a get well card or >> would be nice. >> Yeah, I think something was sent to her. >> Okay. some flowers. >> Yeah. Oh, um yeah, it was kind of kind of sudden and um >> Oh. >> Uh she wasn't feeling good. Went in and they're like, "Oh, something I just want to prove that." >> Yeah. >> So, um >> she's still doing some work at home, but wasn't able to really be here for this. So, um we're are finances, right? Um um we did the revenue for expenditure. >> Yeah. I feel like that

063she's got that kind of um it looks like we're at a deficit, but we're not. We're actually quite ahead. >> Yeah. >> And I don't understand how those I feel like um >> what she's saying is that we're we're 160,000 in underbudgeted expenditures. So we've spent >> or she saved us money. >> We've spent 160,000 less than 2.8. We spent 2.6. >> Okay. >> Thank you for translating. Okay. That's the one. >> And then that does that have nothing to do with the general fund balance minimum of 430. um it influences the general fund >> but I mean the general fund expenditures then there's this balance and then there's the minimum balance of 430 so there must not be a direct correlation between here Jerry that number and this >> that's that's what we've set

064aside right >> so that purple number is what we as a board have said we always have to have that right that's our minimum that's our bottom line we're actually have a lot more than that. >> Okay. >> And and and available to us. >> And that's a 344 above. >> Yes. >> Okay. And this is just what we spent which is >> is that is that mean after this expenditure we have 344 >> above the 430 >> the the fund. We still have um after we have some more expenditures that aren't counted in this yet like we like the curriculum that we just purchased that's not that that'll come out of this. >> Okay. >> Right. When we I plan to have the middle school painted it's not counted in this yet. >> Oh

065but what I'm saying is this number here is already accounted for with the 344. I believe >> the which number >> the 288 >> the 280 282 080. >> Oh yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So that after taking that into consideration we have 344 left above the minimum. Right. >> Right. Okay. And then the month these other expenditures are okay. Got it. >> So um >> we're still still solid. There we have um we're going to that T TK there's $55,000 that's carryover. We're going to use that to kind of create some cushion over next year. Um and um make it a little easier to absorb those couple extra kids. We don't really need any supplies and materials in there. So um that that'll make that part a little >> if if you have

066the teacher already funded. >> Yeah. To absorb. >> Um yeah. >> Okay. All right. All right. There's a para that will be likely in there that's a um that could be a little extra cost there but I think could should be fine to have an extra audience. So um this is the ending fund balance chart is a chart that I like. It just helps me my simple I'm not an accountant. I I just like okay at the end of the day when I balance my checkbook where are we at? This is a number that I like to see are we trending okay and how are we trending according to past. Um and and you see the ups and downs as as you go through there and that's a some of that's a natural eb and

067flow the way the school state finances us. They don't always give us our money in equal paychecks, right? They have it um come at different times. Um and we have levy money that comes at different times and so you're going to see the eb and flow and then we have some different expenses that comes. So you you'll see that that eb and flow of the of the u the graph. But um you also it just helps me see the flow of that and is it consistent and are we healthy? >> Is it safe to to say that because of the this year's continued growth in other words above the 210 that that helped with the slope of that line because of the >> Yes. Absolutely. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> When I look at that

068that jumps out. >> That's why we always try to budget low and hold high. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. understand what I showed you. >> Has ASB purchased their trip for the end of the year? >> That was It probably didn't make this >> okay cuz I I just the 15,000 and I'm like that's that shouldn't be right for this time of year. >> We were just invoiced. >> Where do they get to go? >> Ocean 5. Um and it's catered and everything. It's the day that they're normally closed >> and then they don't get to go anywhere else, right? >> No, they're going to the that big jump. Oak trampoline. I think it's a family fun center. >> Um so they get to do all the things. That's awesome. >> Okay, the last

069page uh the other funds that we have um capital projects we have for facilities. We we've kind of been sitting on that for a while and it's slowly growing. Um we as we're able to we use our other funds to do things as we can. Um, and so far we've been pretty good with that and that's been a a nice emergency uh fund that uh we can use this when the time comes and it's uh we've not spent any of it. It's just growing in interest. ASB which you've spoken to um is the basically the kids money they raise to do things. Um the debt service funds is the it's the money that uh slowly builds up and then we pay our bonds etc. Um, and then transportation vehicle is um not very high because

070we bought that $200,000 bus, but it's going to slowly grow. And um that's also the one that will grow at a slower rate because the states um uh added a couple of years to the depreciation of the buses. So it takes longer to build up enough money for a bus. >> Right. Increase the depreciation time. Right. >> Right. Yeah. They stretched that out. So it takes longer to save up for a bus. Um but we have take good care of our buses. We have a great program with central kids app and we have bus drivers who are very careful about their equipment and we keep them stored in the shed which also helps them last longer. So um you know it just more miles that they they drive. So could be some more. I don't

071know that they'll really say much. There'll be more maintenance. So, um, we'll see how that goes. So, on that last page, it says a look ahead. So, a couple of the things that we have been looking ahead. One of them we just vote we approved, which is the cost of the curriculum, which is a good chunk. Um, we have some bids for painting the middle school. We haven't made a decision on that. And then, um, yet. And then there's a few um other items and like lighting that needs to be fixed and a few other things that because we're okay right now, we're going to try to get taken care of and keep our facility as nice as we can. So, and that >> did anything come from the the big kind of wonky or

072over like is there anything wrong with the middle school that they pointed out that you overlooked? >> No, we knew everything. Um Tony's very much in touch by our facilities and um the the real need is the paint around the outside back, but we just wanted because of its exposure to the weather, but we're just like no, we're going to paint the whole thing, which is also the interior areas that are less exposed, not inside the classrooms, but all that color area. So, we're going to get the whole thing painted so that we don't have other problems later on. So, and that is Andrea's report. Not as good, but >> Well, thank you for filling in. Okay. So, now we're going to move down to new business. Uh we're going to approve the 2526 school

073year calendar. Um I'm looking for a motion to approve. We have a second >> second discussion. So do we have that? >> It was sent everybody. >> Yeah. It show >> we had them back to back but they're like that's parent night and they're like we don't want to have um spend our day in training and then have parent night. So we just and >> we still have snow days built into to make up any comments, questions? >> So, let's see. Now, in this calendar, the first week of school then is >> 26th. That's the first day of school. August. >> Well, September 26 is on Tuesday. >> August. Excuse me. Okay. Okay. Last day is the 11th. Okay. Should we move to vote? >> All right. All in favor say I. >> All right.

074Thank you for shouting out. Now, moving on down to the legislative update. Tom, you got anything for us? >> Yes. You have a copy of a two-page document for if you count back. I got this in an email form from Travis Kur. If you are not on his email list, I suggest you get on his email list so you can get the updates as I read through it and I don't want to be labelled my point that I made last month and the month before that. They didn't put any comment last month since I wasn't uh the legislative session ended and uh by golly we got ourselves a state income tax but it's just a millionaire's tax for those people who have an annual report of a billion dollars and they I'm going to say

075they The legislature has tried to bring an income tax whether had a in theory they have to name it something else because the constitution says income tax is not allowed in the state of Washington and what how we generate our revenue uh for operating the state is through taxes retail taxes on things that we buy uh gasoline business taxes and the list goes on it on. Uh so they pass this this uh millionaire's tax and if it survives the the uh then I'm pretty sure it's going to end up in the Supreme Court. Uh and by the way, there's two uh initiatives on the ballot or there will be Uh and we'll have hopefully a chance to vote on it in uh what November when they passed the law. If you look down in the

076the second box below the picture of Travis with his hand up, that's a good sign by Travis because Travis was trying to stop and stop and stop and stop the crazy budget. Uh if you look at that first sentence underneath that picture and go to the end of the sentence or at least halfway through it, Democratic majority forced the income tax through. Worse yet, they passed it with the addition of a necessity clause. Necessity clause removing the public's right to repeal the tax through a referendum. And uh a necessity clause is a way to ensure that a bill passed by the legislature is so crucial and so necessary for the state to fund its activities. The necess the necessity clause says that they can't bring a referendum against it which seems unconstitutional to me. Um

077we've rejected income taxes in the past. So, let's say it passes through and we're going to continue to pay the sales taxes and the business taxes and everything else. And even though it's called a millionaire's tax, if that door gets opened and becomes law, they will lower the threshold. >> Well, can can I comment on Sure. So the reason why it's unconstitutional is our constitution says you have to tax everybody at at the same level, right? There's no tiers. And so what's going to what the plan is is is you bring that to the Supreme Court and the argument is well you you can't tax people at different tiers. You can't say well just cuz you're a millionaire, right? And the Supreme Court will side with that and then the people that passes will say,

078"Well, we tried to soak it to the rich, but I guess everybody has to pay it now, >> right? That's the that's the end of the education, >> the end game of it." And the Republicans even tried to put a clause into it that said anybody making $100,000 a year or or below >> would never be cons would never be taxed this. Well, they refuse to do that. So, think of think of somebody making $30,000. they're gonna owe $3,000 in income tax, which is probably what their their refund is going to be from the federal government. So So Washington is stealing but that person's uh federal refund because it's just going to go to Washington. I mean, it's really it's it's it's really pretty gross really when you think about it. And you know, sure,

079a lot of states have income taxes, but they they go a little easier on property tax or a little easier on sales tax. I mean, we're just at the max of everything. Mhm. >> So anyway, I just wanted to >> No, no, if you turn the page, the picture on the top of the screen shows how much the budget has increased in the last call 12 years, 13 years. So, we are spending in the state of Washington massive increases each year in the state budget and state law says they're supposed to fully fund education and we're continuing to have to run levies in order to take care of the things that we believe are important. If you look down in the uh there's five there's four bullet points and then there's five bullet points below

080that and the fourth one wished the Republican minority wished that they could fully fund essential services like healthcare, schools and public safety. and the uh the majority rejected the plan. All right. Down at the bottom of the page, Kimberly highlighted where the healthcare and education cuts section is halfway down the page. the budget expenditures increased dramatically. And what did that do for schools? Well, >> the third budget point or the second budget point is they cut $250 million from schools. So, another uh interesting part was the state income tax, the millionaire's tax was designed to help fund education. >> That's what they said. Yeah. Lottery, right? Oh, marijuana. >> Marijuana. >> Yeah. >> And they uh limited the TK money as well. Travis is a warrior. He works really hard for education and all right,

081let's go to page three. Two initiatives made it onto the ballot for this fall. IL26-638 that's proposed since under court six initiatives to the legislature and that's a big deal for for schools and the second one I26-1 uh restores parental rights uh last year parental rights initiative passed and this year the state legislature um watered it down so much that basically the parental rights went way. So, here we are again. We're going to have a chance to quote on that. Now, this isn't directly a monetary thing, but it does. Parental rights involves schools. The law gives schools the opportunity to do certain things and protect information uh that a student has a right to make decisions about what he can or will or wants to do with his body or she with her body and

082uh the parents don't have the right to find out. Well, this this initiative will hopefully restore that. Keep your eye on those and if you have the opportunity to share if you think both of those are valuable for schools and for education or because of your own personal preference, talk to other people about it. All right, I'm going to skip now. Actually, I like the picture on the back page. Those are our warriors from from 35th district and they work really hard and they're fighting an uphill battle. I would suggest that you take this with you and read it all of it have a a better understanding. And by the way, Kimberly, thanks for pulling this together for us. >> Can can I comment also that some of us might be wondering, okay, well, millionaires

083tax, you know, Maybe I like it, maybe I don't. Right? You're you're entitled to your opinion, but how does that I mean, we're a school board. How does that affect our district? >> Right? And it affects it because we have to pass levies. Mhm. >> And there is going to be a point where people >> feel like they are at the breaking point of of paying so much that you know who are they going to punish? Well, they have the ability to punish Obsson right through through a a vote on that. So eventually it's gonna it it's gonna just be too much for people and you know so so that's how that's that's how this is going to directly affect us but anyway >> that's a good point >> and also their budget is based

084on projections and how much money they will get and if they do not get that then there'll be further cuts. Mhm. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> And again, we can only control that which we can control. >> To the credit of this of this school, you know that this is the thing that really got my attention when Lance got that Olympian school district. You know, you look at to to generate enough revenues to afford a full-time principal with 430 students, but we're doing up at 210. Mhm. >> I mean, this is where this is where the teachers have a big play in this. This is where we have a play in it. But there's we're all in this together. We can protect this and we can generate our own our own community support like we have.

085I mentioned to Cindy, I hope next year that when we do this year with Beauty and the Beast, I hope next year that we have a GCA and a Mason Benson Club Sunday afternoon matinea of the presentation just so we go to the people and say this is what you don't see that we're doing good >> because these are these are significant events. All all the stuff about our attainment or excuse me our achievement I mean that's that's spot on. Give me but boy when you see the the performance levels and you see what Miss Shannon's done with the school >> with the band and stuff that human 1963 we never had any of that or we had music but I mean by today's standards it's very rudimentary but so I we have control of

086our destiny well >> just have to continue to do the right job >> I just think we've been a little more forward thinking Right. We didn't allow we didn't give everybody, you know, 42% raises when when McCclary came in and just blew all of our money in a unsustainable, you know, quite mar. We didn't build in our COVID dollars as if they're permanent. Um, you know, so >> other districts seem to like forget that, you know, a one-time payment is not is not guaranteed income, >> right? But we need to be cognizant of of the community mood and we've been we've been very fortunate to have a lot of support and I and it was mentioned that we don't ever have anybody at the meetings. Well, If your school district loses uh trust in the

087community and you do something wrong, we'll have plenty of people, right? And so so I think I mean it's just my gut feeling that that there is a a high trust environment um you know and we need to keep that. Well, that was when that person who raped you came to me with the question about uh rely on Zillow or when >> were we rated so low? What are you talking about? >> Yeah. >> Uh that's trust that that that >> that question alone and that's what I went to Jerry said, Jerry, what's this about? and and to his credit to your credit you guys in front of us. So we are going to there's what's going on here tonight with a little more ammunition that we didn't >> Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, it's interesting.

088I got trust. >> Can we do character song at the end of the meeting? >> Where's Lindsay? I need a little >> beveful. >> Yeah. Be strong. Yeah. >> We need courage. I wrote it down. It's be brave, be bold, be powerful. >> I wrote it down because I want to practice it. >> I have one other thing I want to talk about before I lose the soap box. Uh Jerry's announcements, talking points, included a WASDA regional meeting in Tanino next week. WASDA holds a annual conference that rotates between Spokane and Seattle Belleview area. I've been to the the annual conference. uh I got a lot out of it and other board members have as well. They also have regional conferences each year based on the district that our school participates in and we're in

089district five and next week is this was the regional conference or regional meeting down in Tanino. Uh it'll have somewhere between 25 and 40 school board directors. It'll probably have a half a dozen to 10 or more uh superintendent. And if you haven't been to the annual conference and you haven't been to a regional conference, I highly recommend that you go. You'll have the opportunity to meet other uh directors from different schools within district 5 or districts within our DA5 and uh there will be lots of people there presenting and there's plenty of uh opportunity for getting to know people. So I'm going to tell you a quick story. Les and I went down to Aberdine five years ago, six years ago. Sure. And uh we had a nice drive down and we go in

090and and we set up and uh we were sitting at a table. Less and I were side by side and we had three or four other people at our table and then they decided to do an activity and they they picked out certain everybody had a number at the table and the twos all went over here, the threes went over there. Anyway, uh, a guy named Kurt came and sat at our table. I think you had left the table, but Kurt had identified himself as a former superintendent down in it's a district down in the harbor. I >> can't. Yeah. Yeah. and uh he had just retired from there as a superintendent and moved back to uh Port Orchard so that he and his wife could be uh near their family. and we were looking

091at a a need to replace a superintendent at the time and uh and Kurt ended up sitting right next to me at the tailor and then we so we continued to do some good activities. Uh but it was an o and we ended up hiring Kurt >> to be our soup which was a wonderful move. By the way, he is >> his mentor. Yeah. >> Yes. >> And I just saw him one day evening and he and his present wife Sandy are building amazingly. >> That's right. >> Is that right? >> That's right. He'll be awesome. >> He's selling Port Orchard and they're moving out. >> That's cool. >> Well, he's making the right decision. >> Yeah. >> So, I can pinch two pennies into a nickel. >> I encourage specifically every or Lance. >>

092Lance. Lance, I'm having a hard time remembering your name right off the top of my head. >> I keep working on it. >> Uh I I encourage you guys to consider going to that >> the one in Tino. >> And I'm going to have to clarify the date because he's got the 30th down and I think it might be the 29th, but it's in the WASDA schedule. that shows that >> and we have to RSVP to go to that. >> Yeah, we have to register. The school pays for the registration for the directors that go and uh I'd even be willing to ride along if that would be helpful. Uh the district reimbures expenses, mileage expenses down the back. I don't know what the state level is right now. >> Like 70 some cents. >>

09370 some cents. Well, that'll help attack that $569 a gallon gasoline. >> Okay, >> that's all I got. >> Any other comments on first reading of new policies? No, they just have to look at them and anything they want me to look at. >> I'm going to start off with policy 6910 construction and financing. So recommend this. >> Yeah, they made all those. I did not tra and their lawyers said the big word they use the district may contract indebted Yeah, that's not going to happen. I'm not going to point you. It It actually allows for some very creative financing, which I think is dangerous. >> Yeah, >> if I don't got the money, I won't script most cases. Unless it's my truck. I don't Has the district ever done non voter approved yet? No.

094It's not a good idea. >> No. >> I apologize. That's a way to get hot water. >> It's a way to get people into our meetings. >> All right. We want people to show up. >> Exactly. Do they do they rewrite this in case like of an emergency like I'm going to use PE school districts like they just had a fire. Is that so they can hurry and get funds to to allocate to fix the school and get it back open >> potential? Yeah. >> Okay. Should we move on? Any other questions? All right. I'm going to move on down now to what was it? Policy 65 sorry 6570 property and data management. This was last um adopted in 2001 too, just so you know. pretty much reflects what we do now. I'll make all

095the stuff out. >> Yeah. Questions, comments. you guys here when we got the um the burglary when we got a delivery of all all the what Google what Chromebooks or whatever and then >> like the day after we got them we were burglarized. >> No. >> And they were all stolen. >> Really? >> Mhm. >> This like five, six years ago. >> Yeah. It was It was probably more than that was >> Yeah. >> Like they broke into the school. They broke. Where was it? It wasn't was in the middle school maybe. >> I don't remember, >> but it was like the day that we got or the day after. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um and all of our electronic data is being being backed up and our insurance company care about back there. >>

096Yeah. >> Okay. Moving on. Number three, policy 6920. Um, construction. Did I just do that one? >> Oh, I >> I wrote I read the wrong number. 6570 was the one that the data records and management and then 6920. My bad. Construction design. >> I was fascinated as I read through this. Down there your item F uh review value engineering and construction failure reviews. using exactly what we used for our major projects as primary loading techniques to get the scope right. >> Yeah. >> Well, we went through that during the modernization. >> Yeah. I I figured you guys did >> Yeah. But >> it's good to see it here. >> Yeah. >> Questions, comments? Move on. >> I like it. It's only half a page. policy 6955, maintenance of facility records. >> But you're over

097time, you've been trying to go ahead and intellectualize the knowledge that Tony Tony has in his head to a spreadsheet. Is that does that encompass what include this? Yeah. >> Yeah. And we also keep records of all the expenses and did you ever achieve that? It's it's an ongoing with with it it's there's a lot there. It's an ongoing. Okay. Questions, comments on that. That was the first reading of all of them. Any move on down to policy approval? I please have a motion to approve policy one11 oath of office. >> All third any um questions, comments? >> Yeah, we do. >> Like to or sorry, take it to a vote, please. Uh, all in favor. >> Great. So, now we're going to move on down to policy 21106, uh, program compliance last revised in

0982017. >> I'll move. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> Second. So less in home >> are you determining if the district is in compliance with these requirements? >> Yes. >> Uh take it to a vote. >> Discussion discussion. >> I'm sorry. Discussion. So, um, I'd like to, you know, I know I'm in the the smallest of minorities here, um, on this, but, uh, I I have a hangup about neurode divergence not being defined or diagnosed. And I and I feel like it it could be a future liability for the district if we if we just let let everybody just claim that they're neurode divergent and whenever they get into trouble or something, right? And so I just want to make it clear that I am not going to be actively even while I agree with

099this, I don't agree with that aspect and I will not be voting for this, but I'm not going to vote against it. I'm going to abstain >> for that reason. So I just want to make sure everybody knows I'm not a bad guy because I because I want everybody to be discriminated against. But you know, I just don't agree with that aspect of it. >> Doesn't have to be here. >> Yes. >> That's Yes. >> Yes. and I'd have conversations >> and I don't mind a bigger >> but I feel like if you're not if if you don't have a diagnosis of it and let's say let's say you have a kid causing a problem and he he or she gets disciplined and then you know the the parent gets all upset that their little

100angel got disciplined and and they say well don't you know Johnny's neurode divergent and okay well what does that mean and they don't even know what it means you know but now you've just violated this policy right because they're going to claim that you discriminated against them because they're neurode divergent okay while there's plenty of things like autism and what what is it you know what have you been diagnosed with if you're diagnosed on the spectrum that's fine Right. I mean, it seems like there's a lot of that these days. Um, you know, the but but just to just to say that you're neurode divergent without any qualifications whatsoever, it's like bringing trying to bring a peacock onto a plane and saying it's your emotional support animal, right? And and not having any any rules

101around that. I I just think it sort of it it sort of just makes life harder for teachers and for the staff. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. >> Jerry, if if if it has to be here, why do we vote? >> Pardon me. If it has to be, why do we vote? >> That's a great question. Why do we have any policy? Because all of them are state law, >> right? >> Yeah. >> So, why don't we just say, hey, state law and we sign off on it. >> Yeah. Because I don't know. They don't >> because we're required to have policies in our records in agreement with the WAC laws. >> Well, I so then really we don't even need a discussion on any of this. >> I have a better I

102have a better comment for you, Lance, is that uh local control is no longer a thing. So why do we even have a school board? >> Right. >> Okay. I mean >> I mean I can see why we we need to budget from some other things. It's really the policy. It's really policies by that I find almost comical that we're voting on when it has to be here. >> Yeah. Well, the neurode divergence has to be there. I was just asking for it to be a have a addition of diagnos. >> Sure. Mine mine is a mine is a general comment. >> Yeah. No, I >> it seems nothing but a formality. >> Yeah. It's interesting when you look at the example of this nerve diver attention dyslexia >> disc called calculia >> all of

103those are diagnosible >> yeah they're ter but you're right they're they are diagnosed >> but you're indicating someone could self diagnose >> well I'm I'm indicating that that it's it's such a it's such a buzz word in the Fridays >> and broad terms that >> that um when you are so when you are so vague on things well you know this les from from being in business you cannot you cannot leave a lot of ambiguity >> in in your business when it comes to liability >> I got to get a tissue excuse chicken. Anyway, just my little personal hang. >> That's funny. >> I I don't like I don't like uh being very vague on on things like that. Jerry, could we just in the future just say we adopt period all the following things

104by WASA because really we have no control over really what the words it can say on. So why wouldn't we just why wouldn't we why do we go through the the time >> to to do this when it really >> I just mandated >> yeah we could yeah we could say >> there's something there's some uh there's some flexibility in there some things are legal and for that example we paused it um months ago and had a conversation with our WASDA and with their lawyer and uh and with our lawyer and they um said that then we would be in violation of state law. We removed that particular thing. So there is some flexibility. So the process kind of is that there's case law and there's state law and u the wax and rules and

105then creates policy. We hire them essentially to write the policies and then we as a governing body choose to adopt them or not. Right? You could choose not to but then that creates some liabilities as well. >> Jerry, I never suggested removing >> just for just for clarification. I suggested adding the word diagnos. >> You did. That's true. Yeah. And so >> so you would want diagnose neurody >> diver diagnose neur neurode divergence. Yeah. >> Well, why don't they just list a >> was right. The lawyer even said I was correct in in what it did. And yet we can't add the word diagnosed to that. >> You can. >> Well, okay. I will >> do it. That's up to you guys. It would be um the lawyer does not recommend that, but you can

106do it. >> Well, what what was the reason for not recommending it? >> Because it exists outside of the laws to say that. >> Well, >> so you can act, you can write that in you, that's your power, authority as the board. It would then create a um and it would likely never be addressed or questioned. Right. Well, it will be flagged for >> Well, what if it is question? I suppose we could go back and strike it, right? >> If we're going to get sued or something, but I I just I, you know, I just don't I I just think it's backward thinking to just leave it. And it's such a it's such a small thing in my mind. Why not add the word diagnosed and and leave it in there? We're still saying

107that if you have autism or or Tourette's or, you know, one of these diagnosible conditions, um, it still falls underneath that, but you are you have a medical condition, right, that's provable. And I and I'm sorry you guys for spending so much time on So, do you have a motion? Well, I I I would move that that we modify uh by adding the word diagnosed in front of neurode divergence and keeping that neurode divergence, but just >> but then we're going to have to if we want that for this one, do we have to go through all of our other policies that we've updated and say diagnose neurody divergence and vote on it again or is it just going >> Yeah, I would I would do that. Yeah. So, well, we have a motion and

108we have a second to and we're in discussion. So, we either need to vote to adopt it or vote against it. Well, the yeah, the the since I made a motion to add the word diagnose in front of neural divergence, we'd have to get a second on that and then vote on that and then vote on the original >> or or we can vote as it is and if it's voted as it is, >> then it passes. Or we could and and or we can vote it down and then add >> and we could redo it as >> diagnos at a at a future date. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> So I mean you could go to vote right now. We've had discussion we can go to vote and >> sorry whatever the board gets

109condition and vote on it and if it doesn't pass >> so should I withdraw my motion then >> my question is so if we do change this motion and more policies come up with neurobi divergence like this do you then >> I would be motioning to >> to change that to be diagnosed too. >> Yeah, it's my own little personal hangup, so I'm going to be doing that. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> So, we're in discussion and the policy had occurred to you. >> I just see it as a as a flaw in the in the policy. >> If the lawyers come in and said that this is this isn't what I recommend, are we liable to them the decision that we make? And >> um I think we I think they could audit us

110and have a finding. >> We would get we would get threatened first and then we would have to make up make that change. >> They don't generally read them that post. I would I would also >> so we redid we had a policy come in >> that that we actually as a board rewrote >> okay >> and we and we put all the buzzwords in different order right we we put exclus you know um exclusivity diversity you know transition and we and we put it in a different order and it basically said the opposite of what the intent of the policy was and it was approved >> because what they did was they looked at oh there's diversity and oh there's inclusion and oh yeah this is this is exactly what we want and they

111approve it >> and so I what I'm what I'm saying is is that is that if if this ever came up with a parent Right? We could point to this and say, "Oh, um, what what kind of neurode divergence have they been diagnosed with?" >> Do we have a right to ask that? >> Well, yeah. If they if they say that, you know, little Johnny, you know, lit the library on fire because he's neurode divergent. Okay. Well, great. What kind of neurode divergence is that? You know, >> this particular policy does not relate to >> No, no, but this is making this change here opens the door to the next policy that comes down that that has neurode divergent in it >> and several others that we pass this year. >> Yes. Yes. >> So

112then you have to go all the way back and vote on all this again. It just goes to >> I mean you know that if you look at this you know this whole issue is that basically and sharing attesting that we're in compliance with statutes which pre which prohibit unequal treatment of individuals on the basis of race ethnicity sex creed color yada yada until you get down with those >> neurode divergence. In other words, we're not going to we're going to be inclined to allow equal opportunity into an education if they are neurode divergent and they be diagnosed as being autistic, which we currently do. >> Right. Right. >> Interesting. So, what would be what would be a diagnosis outside of the neurodeivergement? In other words, are we I'm failing to see how we're exposing

113ourselves with the current wording. >> Okay. If the parent just comes in and says he's no diversion, that's what he's saying. That's why they're wordable. >> Yeah. So >> my diversion, that's why he did. >> So you have no right to um you know to uh you know dis discipline Johnny because he's he's neurode divergent and you should be you know treat treating him better and and this and that. And you know people use that term. my daughter's friends 20 2011 >> oh I'm neurode divergent and uh you know all of this crap and it's like no you're not you're in college you're you're yeah everybody was anxious in college right everybody had felt a little discombobulated or whatever that that's not you you're you're they're just using terms out there and So, I think

114the the the liability really is um you know, when when they're not, you know, they don't have a diagnosed condition, just some parent saying, "Oh, well, they they are." And, you know, I don't know that for a fact. I I don't know. I mean, I it's not a hill I'm going to die on, but but you know, >> you guys you guys think it's fine. That's that's fine. I I don't >> I what I would point out is that this policy has nothing to do with discipline. This particular one >> I I know I'm I'm just pointing out that anything that is like that I'm going to have problem. >> So >> I'm going to put it to a vote. Um just because how it's worded. I mean I I this is a hard one.

115Um, let's just put it to a vote and pass and then >> I don't know. >> Call for the vote. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> n Oh boy. Oh boy. I No, you sir. I'm kidding. >> All right. >> So, with that, >> It passed. Three to two. Yep. The policy passed. Moving on down to policy 5010. Uh, nondiscrimination affirmative action. I missed 214. >> 2140 is the next one. >> 2140. Um, comprehensive school counseling program. >> Comments, questions, discussion. Second. >> Oh, I'm sorry. um >> yeah so same same >> um >> Jerry you you didn't say a complaint you >> pardon me we we're doing this group yeah we now have a counselor to do it so that's great >> so I have a I have the same >> complaint

116on it so I'm not going to repeat myself but I like being vague on especially something that you know points out that we're uh you know not going to discriminate on um and just having such a wide uh openended thing right not that we would discriminate against anybody but I I just there's a I'm just taking a understand that or you just can't do it. >> It says comprehensive K to2 school counseling program. Could we modify that to K8? >> I would say that would be wise. That's what we have. >> So if you're looking at it on page two where it says K to 12, can we modify it right here right now? I believe you could just u approve it with the modifications as long as it please that really doesn't change it

117just make it accurate. >> Okay. Any more discussion? >> I'm going to put policy 2140 to a vote. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Nate. Going down to policy 5010. non-discrimination and affirmative action. Um discussion or sorry I would like a motion to approve policy 5010 non-discrimination >> discussion questions. I saw sign >> hope neurody divergent isn't in this >> it is first first paragraph is it >> next to the bottom line will likely be in everything because that's state laws is a group that probably is for protection >> I honestly don't understand what what can we put diagnosed I honestly don't understand >> I mean it makes sense I honestly ly don't understand that word from a legal stand to be honest sense >> I don't >> and I don't see how it

118hurts >> I I do not I do not say how it hurts either so >> yeah that's what the lawyer told me it's but he said he recommended he didn't say he couldn't he could do anything he wants no I agree with you're saying but how does it open up how does open up for probably wouldn't I'm just telling you what the lawyer said. >> What I'm saying was that >> I'm just telling you what the lawyer said. He did not do that. That was our law school. So you're the board. You can make that decision and edit it. This is your policy. >> That's not what the state law says. So, but that doesn't mean you can't change that. >> You can't change the law. You can change your policy. This is your policy.

119>> We have to say a lot of things. I just Not really changing the post really you added a word >> right >> just to just for clarity >> you know >> okay I got so in this discussion so if if in fact diver neurode divergence shows up in this form in every policy where it's applicable >> that we have adopted >> so if we if we start >> I'm just taking one >> if we if we start with one we need to follow through with all of them >> when they come up for review. >> I see what you're saying when they come up. Okay. >> No, we could just have AI say what show us all the policies that neurode divergence is and just >> you could just go to Washington search. Yeah.

120I move we approve policy 5010. >> Tom's ready to get out of here. >> I have Tom as the second. >> Well, you can end the discussion and call the vote. >> Okay. So, all in I want to move to a vote for policy 5010 non-discrimination and affirmative action. All in favor? I >> I named it. Well, >> just cuz I voted just cuz Lance and I voted. >> No, I thought so good. >> That there's different >> You guys have every right to be one. >> That's right. You have every right to be wrong. We respect you for that. So down to future. >> Yes. Next meet next board meeting is May 27th. Um we'll move on down to reflections. >> Before you get so I was going to add so Cindy just make

121sure I'm clear. I was wondering did we have need to have as a board item approval of of any support for the character strong and I think you clarified >> so for sending people >> that for sending people that were covered financially for that out there >> yeah we're we're sending TK Miss Con fourth grade Miss Goddard seventh grade Mr. Trimble who you saw Miss Pitrop our school counselor Miss Nielson Lindsay Mr. Olson and myself >> and that's all finance >> you're going to do that >> consider our consider the kids as >> a possibility >> and we can just do that >> we don't have those expenses will come back later on consent >> yeah so we're good >> so we don't have to approve it >> okay so doesn't need to be okay

122that's all I try to do >> okay >> um on the future agenda items can we add neural feature I I couldn't even say it with the straight face. I'm sorry. >> Going to get second hearing. >> Okay. I'd like to move down to board and superintendent reflections. Um >> before we do that, I want to clarify something. >> The regional meeting in Tanino is Thursday, April 30th. Thursday, April 30th. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Tom, can we start with you for reflections, please? >> Me first. >> Oh, my last name is Anderson. I'm first. It's an A. Uh healthy discussions are important and it's healthy to discuss perspectives and uh challenging policies or or anything else that we do as a school board. And uh if we if we rubber stamp everything then

123we're in a group think and when I say rubber staff I mean 5 to 0 5 to 0 5 to 0 5 to zero. Uh we are a local control school district by state law and local control does provide the opportunity to do things as seen fit by the board for the district on issues that come up. data Washington specifically through OSPI uh doesn't look at it like that. And I've been involved in lots of WASDA meetings and and I've heard both camps talk about local control, local control, local control. And one of the things that came out very positively, not this this last year at the assembly, but the year before was they stripped the big district's ability to have more votes counted for them. Or in other words, I think it was five.

124So if you had five big districts, they had the ability to get 25 votes on a particular policy that they wanted to see WASDA participate in on the legislative end. That's a very good start. It's a very good start. Whether we will have the opportunity to make headway with those kinds of issues of local control or not, uh it's going to be up to the legislature and the governor and the OSPI and and we should voice our opinion and vote how we think is going to be best for our district. And we practice that tonight. And I loved the character strong assemblies that we were afforded the opportunity to experience at the beginning of the meeting with Lindsay. >> That's all I've got. Thanks. >> Thank you, Tom. >> Wes. >> Yeah, the uh character

125strong is exciting and Lindsay should have been a theater kid. Yeah, >> I think you know because she she's she's got that that energy about her, right? Really really positive. And uh and I agree. I mean, we're we're you know, it's you have to vote your your conscience and your you know, all of our opinions are going to be different sometimes. And you know, I'm very thankful that this is a board that works together and and even in disagreement, we uh we see each other's positions and you know it it doesn't get contentious. Um so I I appreciate that. Um even when I'm in the minority and the majority is wrong. Uh but um but you know there there's certain things that are being pushed into our policies and education that I I I just

126feel we need to push back on and we just for for so long we've just sort of sat here and and taken it and then they add they keep adding more and more crap. to it and we're just supposed to um just go okay and you know there's there's a time to to kind of push on it. But having said that, um I'm very thankful for uh our working relationship and the school and you know and I um I'm excited uh to hear that a couple kids were going to be considered to go make a presentation in the workshop, which I just think is a a great idea and the fact that they're they're leading uh here at the school and in fifth Yeah, >> that's a big deal. So anyway, I'm Those are my

127comments. >> I have one more comment to that. >> We're a nine. >> I agreed. I was I was I was angry when I saw that number. >> The the good the great schools rating. >> Great school rating. >> I agree. >> So get on there and give us a review. >> Lance, can I help you up? >> Sure. I uh also I was positively impacted by the character strong. You know your thoughts, your actions, your behaviors all end up determining your character and who you eventually become. Yeah. So who you eventually become is one of the reasons why I decided to join the school board. So it probably u that sums it up. the uh the ability to um express differing opinions is absolutely crucial as a society and who I believe we are

128as a group and to be able to do it respect that's all >> I agree thank you >> le >> when Linda was making her presentation I was going back and think about teachers or instructors that I had over the years that I wanted to emulate their behavior, their their enthusiasm, their engagement. She definitely explains and views that kind of emulation. So I that was I was really impassed by that. That's well I find it car interesting with if character strong is going to try to hire away from us. thought that's the first thing came to my online when I thought they were picking her out. I said, "Oh my gosh, let's be the next one." at all. And and I do agree with the the voices of of of differing opinion and and quite

129frankly if there was a case study or a case of where this undiagnosed self diagnosed that neurode divergence has gone against a school district. I would certainly love to be proving to that information that that that as opposed to I don't know. I'm not trying to say you're speculating, but there's truly something out there that we need to be aware of. I would love to see it, Jerry, if you knew. >> Well, it's always speculation until it happens. >> Oh, okay. Okay. All right. But anyway, and I I said before, we control our destiny. We control our our destiny on performance. We'll certainly try to ride the cost equation, revenues, and be positive. And that's that's how we're going to run this business for the long term. We have that's all I have to say.

130>> Thank you. I think adding to speaking about Lindsay, if you could bottle up that energy, I would love some. It's so neat to see how passionate she is and the true love and attention that she gives her students. it it shows. Um, I also want to say thanks to Tom. The indepth reporting that you do for our legislature. It really has educated me and it it sets no pressure on me to think further into the future and I really appreciate the the amount of time that you put towards that because you don't have to and I appreciate it. Um, and thanks for everybody's hard work, too. And this we're looking forward to spring and the track. Can't say enough about track. I think I'm all for the teams and the sports. So, um, I

131hope they kick butt on Friday. With that, Mary, we hear anything from you? >> Um, yeah. We've all spoken to Lindsay very well. I won't go into that because she's she's fabulous. And you've said that one of the things you don't know today is this the screen just got set up and I had um I had Andrea, I had Cindy, I had Kimberly, I think Britney, um we had our tech guy all in here sometimes during the day making sure this worked properly and ran our things and um would operate the Zoom and the camera and allow me to get on the internet to do my other show you the different things. So, it was >> um because it was our first time using it. So, and it worked perfectly because a whole bunch of

132people uh worked hard on that today to make it happen. So, thank you to all of people. Appreciate it. It's a very useful tool and now it works well because >> everybody made it look smooth and seamless. >> Okay, any other comments? Good. 7:50. Can you be adjourned? >> They all need to sign. >> I forgot graduation is on June 9th. >> Oh, so we just write that down. >> What time do you want us here for breakfast? I didn't go over that. The staff get here at 8. At 8. So like 7:30, 7:45. >> No, earlier. >> At least 7:30. >> 7:30. Okay, we'll set 7:30 then >> because we want to have it all. And I have I have some decorations that Deb gave me from last year. I got a big amount.

133And then I'll go to the dollar store and get two knife tables. >> We love this. We love breakfast and they like it a whole lot. >> Yes, they do. >> All right. We'll see you soon. >> Good night, Wes. Wherever you are, I think you shut up. >> Did everybody sign? >> Did you Did you shut that down? >> Just do it over here.