July 2024 Grapeview School District Board Meeting

001Roll call. We are all like a motion to the agenda. So I'll second discussion. So Dev and I work through the details which is kind of we were all separated by Senator this this agenda and I have been focused on presentation talking about calendar that really kind of sums it up the heart of this Anything discussions? If not, and I'd like to call for a vote of approval vote in favor. Okay. So, I don't see any visitors tonight. Anybody there to make public comments? Here I am. And uh let's get down to item number seven which would be staffation. The first thing we have is um OSPI trace cancer guidelines. All right. So, the first thing that we're going to go over and actually I will do this one too. Um I'll just have one

002now. And that is our school board policy on choice transfer. And then this is our um the next thing that's coming to you is our um union policies on on trace transfers or union policy on classes. Oh sorry. All right. All right. So, I know that there were some questions before about choice transfer systems and how we work them here at Great View. And we really don't do anything different than what the state has do. So, the first thing that we look at is um what the state requires us transfer. Um so, that's that's this first paper here. And um if a student or one parent wants a student to attend a school outside the school district, so oftentimes there are school um choices which um parents within the district have multiple schools and they

003will try to choose a school that's easier for transportation or whatnot for them. Um but because we are so many small rural districts out here coming near um break the hood canal we we often times get bigger district students wanting to choice transfer into our wonderful little school which is fantastic. Actually right now about 30% of our students um that attend grade View um are post transfer students. So kind of break it down by numbers. What what would be the English kids 70% like 150 I think 150 students are are resident students in the district. Um or maybe one 30. Yeah. Um but about 30% of our students are choice transfer. And when we look at that choice transfer system, um there's multiple things that we look at, but the the first thing I would

004like to take a look at is this paper right here. This is our um the go to the where it says section six at the top and it says textbooks. I'm just double your paper right here. Yeah. If you scroll on down to section nine, that's a network here. Uh that is the bargaining agreement. So the great education association um our class size bargaining agreement and so for TK and then specialist meaning TK students that are in specialist as well. Um so PE art and music it's one teacher to 20 students and then it goes through K3 specialist is one teacher to 22 for five one teacher to 26 and six one teacher to 28. So those are what the bargaining agreement has put into place for those teachers. So as you can see there's

005over those class sizes. Um we have a overage form I meet with the teachers with that teacher specifically and we go through their options all the options across the district menu. So when that class size goes from 26 students in fourth grade to 27 students in fourth grade we have an overage meeting with that teacher and we talk about how we're going to compensate them for that classes. Um, sometimes it's with financial stipens every month. Sometimes it's um through um extra Paris support, extra teacher support, um page time for report cards. And in fact, most of the time it's a multitude of um those different components to ensure that they get adequate um compensation in someone for the the large class size which is a really tough thing to balance because we want full classes.

006Um but as soon as we go over then it cost the district money um not enough money to split the class. There are more teachers sometimes. Yes. um when we get you know 35 36 students in in class um but then where I need a classroom for them building a classroom um with supplies with desks it it's an expensive situation so it's it's a really tough um you know thing to balance we like to wait to accept a lot of especially choice um students until the first week of school so we can see what those classes look like um but even when that happens there's um there's standards that we have to provide um and things that we have to address to make sure and I think one thing that that tends to get forgotten

007about is that this isn't the only thing that we first look at as far as if there's enough room in the class. We have to see if there's enough room in a program for that student because not all students um are just a part of general ed program. So we have one special education teacher and as of last year in um in June I think there were 31 students um with IEPs um or one special education teacher. Now those are ranging with different needs but that's over capacity for one teacher. So if um we don't have a program then for a student coming into our district that's out of district with a special need at that point that our our teacher our special education teacher is not able to support one more student um with

008her high case load that she currently has at that moment then but if a student an industry student comes in then we have to recognize um they're an industry student we are obligated to make sure that that students supports and so then we talk about overage how can we support it. But if we are coming up with overage support for an out of district student or a program that's at max capacity, we're not able to provide best interest for that student or that family. So, we're not doing them any favors at that point. Um, so we have to look at all those things. I I think that it we tend to be forgotten that our special education program does have a capacity and um and it can be, you know, bursting at the seams. Um,

009and especially also, I mean, we're not at that 15%, but I know um, Travis was talking about um, the legislature trying to bump up um, you know, the push for um, sped dollars, sped funding, and that's so important because without that, um, you know, if they don't raise that, then we're taking out of district students who need special education support. we are losing significant money then because our our program is not capacity and then we're students that we're not able to provide services for. We have to provide services for them but where are we getting that from? It's just um it's a financial impact on the district. So we have to look at all those kinds of things really carefully. So that's the first thing I look at when I get choice transfers. It's like

010is that even an option or is the class size at is it is it even a possibility um in that class size? Um, and then do things have special needs that we need to be able to address well at our school? Um, are they needs that we can address? Um, you know, where are we at with that? So, we look at those things first. Um, if all of those things, it says, "Oh, we've got room in our classrooms. Um, their needs meet our school meets, their reasoning is is good and solid." Great. But then what we'll say is, "Oh, we have four kids that meet that qualification for the same classroom. I can only let two of them in. Where do I go from there?" So then I have to go through this list and

011then it's it's right on here, the state. And then our schoolboard policies for non-resident um where I go with that. The first thing is is are they having um or do they have a parent that lives in our district? So our staff parents, we have several staff members here who have students in our district and those staff members don't live in our but their students. They they come here, they get to their kid and the state of Washington says the same thing. If if an adult works for a district, um bringing their students to work with them is an ideal thing. We want to keep those families together. Um we want to make sure that they get together. That was such a joy for me. we are an indistrict family, but I got to bring

012my two kiddos to work with me for so many years. It's really a lovely situation that people don't oftenimes get. So, that's really special. Um, so we do have several staff members who live out district, but their kids come to school with them. Um, because they that's part of the agreement. The next thing that we look at is if they already have siblings enrolled in our district. Again, we want to keep families together. If they are coming into our, you know, we we actually have this situation. So we have a a current second grade and fourth grade students are going into second grade and fourth grade and a fourth grader's class had plenty of room. Uh they live in Pier district and so the fourth graders been coming here since first grade and the family's

013just been so happy that the little one we did not have any room. Um, and we were at max capacity in her class for the longest time and then we were able to accept her this last year as a first grader and the family was just absolutely thrilled and that was top priority to make sure that we try to get that kiddo in, keep the siblings together um for ease for the parents for um transportation for multiple reasons that was really important to us. So we will do everything we can to try to make that happen. Um but again we have to look at the capacity of the classified first to make sure that it's possible um to make sure we have a program for them and then we go through um we have a

014parent working for the district know they have a similarity in the district um if they do then that gets top priority and then we look at at the next things and it just goes down. So when we get several students wanting to come on into the district all in the same class too, uh that's oftentimes what happens. We get these these really big bubbles. Um we will do everything we can to keep our existing students who are here who are out of district who have already been with us. We will try to keep them in. We will try to keep their siblings in and we will um do what we can to support those parents um who work here and and to make that easier for them. So, I follow the same guidelines that the

015state puts out or those are the same guidelines that are in our board policies. Um, and we just try to do the best we can. It is a really hard thing to do though because there are a lot of families um that get really disappointed because sometimes it's there's just nothing we can do um because like uh let's say last year our kindergarten was oh we already had like 24 students on the first day of school and there was a family who lived just outside of our district in Pierre and so please put in the request and we will see what we can do um on the first day of school, no one will get there. We see what we have. Well, the first day of Cub, we want it with 26 kindergarteners um because

016so many industry families registered um their kiddos like on the first day of school, which is always so interesting to me. And unfortunately, we had to deny um that family's first transfer and they went to Pioneer and um but I said, you know, you can reapply um and we can see where things are at and you know, like next year our our class sizes do this and um she did reapply. Um and then I said, "Okay, well, let's wait until August because we won't know until the first of the year, you know, first of the school year." And so she said she's going to reapply in August. Um, but her kiddo went through a full year at their home district and did just fine. She said it wasn't profitable. Um, you know, people make make

017things work. Um, she wants to come here because she works in Breton and she would love to be able to have the school on the way to where she works. And it makes sense. I I completely get it. We're going to try those. Um, but we will, you know, go through our priority list first to make sure that, you know, we're we're making we're doing a big fair, equitable, and and making sense for what board policies are in place, what the state has in place and supporting our beam. We also don't want to step families up for situations where we're not offering the best services. We are a small school, but we do have limited services, especially for special education. Um, and if we are not um, servicing a student who has really high need

018that, but we don't have the programs for or the people in place for, we're not doing that student any favors because those aren't years um that that students getting. So, we want to make sure that we're honoring what students need. That's what we do. Um, so that's what yeah, that that's really what it comes down to. And we really encourage people to apply in August because a choice transfer is open for 45 days. Um and if it's if we're not able to accept them in 45 days, um then it automatically expires. So they have to reapply. So if they apply in August, then by 45 days it's in September and we know what we're able to, you know, manage by that point. We usually know after the first few days of school and that's when

019that that f last year that Friday after the first week of school I was going through a lot of twist transfers at that point to say yes this classroom we do have space we do not this you know and and what kind of paper do they come with so that you know there somewhere so that's they they fill out um the state has um a form that that they fill out they have to get their existing district where they pay taxes who has to approve them to apply for us has to first accept that they want to go elsewhere and then that comes to us and then there's a bunch of questions on there and there are times that I don't think that the parent has fully read through the questions or given like an

020a refers to them over and over again so I call them I say we don't just so that we have you know here so I and to be honest I do that with most everyone anyway even if they answered everything early. I want to know more about their families and and if we have programs, not because I'm trying to be overly investigated, but I want to know if we have programs that are this is going to be a really two-parter question. Do you have someone on staff that assists you? Sherry McA helps us. And uh in your 40 plus hours of work, how much time do you spend working on transfer? It's just the beginning of the year that it's really intense. The rest of the year, you get a couple in here and there

021and it's no big deal. Beginning of the year, um as I discovered last year, and then I texted Nick and I was like, "This was not like I knew that this was something you did. I did not quite understand just how much, you know, time this took." goes, "Oh, yeah. Thanks." But no, it was beginning of the year that took um a lot of time, but there's a lot of things that do take a lot of time in the beginning of the year, you know, just kind of push, but yeah, that that the rest of the year it's it's pretty pretty relaxed. I um and I do like to just meet with parents and let them talk. So, I have a a mom who reached out a couple of weeks ago. Um, wants her kiddo

022to be in her kindergarten. Um, they live in Shelton, but she goes to the shipyard. Um, and I said, I I can't do anything until we get underway. But, you know, next week once August hits, apply. Um, you know, put in a choice transfer request. Um, and we'll see what we can do. And but I really can't do that because I I'm gonna buy your school supply list. I'm gonna go yours and I don't want to, you know, and I I get it and it's, you know, it's just I don't want to enroll him in his in our home school district. Okay. But I can't guarantee anything, especially not kindergarten. That's, you know, we never know what's going to happen. Um, so I I recommend you apply in your home district. I recommend you prepare

023your student to go to your home district and then you roll up to speak and so she has a meeting with me on August 16th because she wants to come in and her case. It doesn't hold any weights for this situation, but I'm happy to meet with any parent that wants to talk about how much they want their kid to come to our school because, you know, I I care about that. I want them to feel heard and I want them, you know, to feel valued. So, um I'm happy to parents that have questions about it. when we were at each and it looks like you go through the teacher like 222 it kicks in number Y were we there during that period? We no well degree. Yes. So we were there for a little

024while because of that eighth grade class. Um Marian's my Marian's eighth grade class that graduated from here. Not this last year but the June before it was two classes and that one was giant. Um and then but that was also that year TK was a part of our total FTE. That's not a part of it anymore. So even when you're looking at you see that 239 we have to take out those you know 15 or 17 kids for TK um because that's not counting to be as a part of our total anymore that's on a separate budget but we still get 105 yeah it's just kind of a different line item we're monthly I included but I this is our TK and this is our average total so what we're budgeting at 180 this year

025we're not including TK in that's not a part of RTK is not a part of that. It's completely separate. So that's kind of the important things to be thinking about. FTP [Music] probability of that budget number being solid. It's too early to tell. Yeah. I mean, I do have quite a few parents with many choice transfers and I keep emailing them, you know, saying, "Hey, let's wait until August. Um, so that way we'll have a better idea then. Um, but I do have quite a few people um every day. I usually have one or two people um wanting to know more about our district, wanting to to see if this is, you know, just interested in our district." I did get people emailing me asking me if this is a private school, what our tuition

026rate is. Um because it's just one of those things is you know people hear about this little school and they you know want to know oh can I know we are a public school and you know I said the boundary map but you're to apply for transcript please wait until August Okay, more questions. [Music] All right. I like motion to approve the consent agenda. Yep. Thank you. Discussion. Okay. So in here is project six. She just can't get away with last year. She was substitute and treat she's she's already trained too. Yeah. Um Michelle would have enough years of experience. I believe they have two years of writing experience to be considered to be accepted into the Chinese competitive potential is interested too but he wants he has very good any more discussion all in

027favor I okay now we'll get to the any [Music] um let's see Apollo projects they're they're still working hard taking longer than they expected but it's um it's come along they're great to work with but very flexible um they're still waiting on a few items which is kind of why it's still hanging out there but um and tell me if they move anything. Um, they expect to have all the parts that they need and everything installed in December, but then that leaves us with a problem because it's an air conditioning system. They can't really uh get it up and running well unless it's warm weather. So they will test it. I trust you on that and um so I talked with OSBI about the grant parameters and we won't need it air conditioning. What's that?

028It's um today we interviewed a candidate for Tracy's position. Um she has excellent experience. Um enough to be knowledgeable but still young enough to be able to be here for a while hopefully. Um uh she interviewed well and we are checking references. Um and uh hopefully as soon as that comes through they are consistent what we think they'll have a letter of intent as soon as possible and um and she knows when we're starting and that's contracts anywhere else to this district larger and she seemed pretty passionate about being at a small school and having experience loves attend school. So, I'm smiling all over. Yeah. So, we'll see. As long as references are consistent with what we saw, we should be in good shape. Just sit her down front of a a spreadsheet and do

029a do a test, get rid of all the parameters and go go solve for X and take his away middle of the year and do a budget that doesn't suck. how your what you do is so broad. [Music] Um, not all. That was one of our questions. What functional areas that that I oversee because she had experience in very strong in the fiscal piece. Um, and including all the different funds that she work with. Um, strong income table which puts under HR. HR would probably be an area of develop. She actually has her degree with a business degree with an HR minor in it, but um it's not she's practiced in especially in schools very different businesses. So, but I've already talked to her about there's some programs out there um to participate in just

030like we have organizations that put out help. It's called help train. I'm not that she would she's happy to do it excited she gets the position to but with her and Jerry and Hannah. So um transportation that most are included service um team up again but the financial piece of both those areas show and so there's other support staff and staff I'm very excited sheard one of the things we asked for and I didn't know if you would get a certification through the law. Um, and why that's important is because it does it does focus on making sure you have experience, training or education in the functional areas that fall under the business office. And so she does have her modal business official certification and so that's something really that helps me know that she

031does know she does not really I figured, you know, I might apply for I can get it. I certainly had the time and experience, especially if it was something you're going to ask for um through this process. You know, anybody with a business degree or business experience could come in and do this, but the learning curve is large. It's just because there's so many nuances with schools, but it's and I would worry, you know, I don't mind bringing people But I would really not your presentation alone in thanks to the special ed funding. It's wonderful for schools. It doesn't really benefit greatly because we're at 9.4. We're not even to the max even with our enrollment. And so we haven't maximized our funding say like that and but then we have these high needs kids

032need funding. It's really one of those situations that it's hard don't understand yourself. Yeah, I'm excited for her. I think I was happy to see the rest of the team is excited. She has a nice way about herself. Very calm and confident. So that's a big deal to know about that excited about that. And just another little addendum there, something I've been working on. Um this last week before I forget um I met with um Blair Daily, Randy Spalding from the state board and Richard Reeves who was the author of this report. Um and um what they're working on is a state commission on boys and men because this you know the the state really is big into demographics of categories of people that they want to champion. But one of the things that they

033realize that that kind of gets ignored is that a major issue and across the nation in our state and more than our school um boys um um are underperforming in almost every category we want to look at in terms of school um there most of our behavior problems they're mostly the ones in in jail mostly the one that are dropping out they're going to college at lower rates they're 90% of our jails, there are 75% of our suicides in the United States. And so, um, he has a a bipartisan, uh, legislative support for a commission. Now commission really doesn't do anything other than it brings uh legal um resources to study and champion um methodologies for maybe addressing some of those issues whether you know and so um I I included the Senate bill and

034the House bill that's both parties are being supportive of it and I included their website if you're interested in more data information. I think that um schools could do a better job of addressing the needs of employees and that that that's not a uniquely American problem in the western western world. Uh reminds we had a teacher here. I don't know, Jerry, if you if you know this or not, but had a teacher named Colin McBrain, who is now the Shelton School District, but he uh he formed a um boys reading club and where he took like books from Star Wars or, you know, World War II, you know, a lot of pew pew and boom boom and, you know, things that things that boys are typically, not all boys, but typically interested in, you know,

035action, adventure, spies, you know, that kind of thing. And um and I thought that that went pretty well. Uh I'm not sure I'm not sure why that why that disappeared. Um I think there was a complaint that that he wasn't allowing girls into the boys read club, right? And even though there were there was a girls read club, but you know, we had a girls had to be in the boys read club and then they acted differently, you know, and so so I think it just sort of fell apart. But but doing things like that could really assist I think because it is a it is a problem. we tend to focus on on groups that we see as, you know, being marginalized or or whatever. And we and forget that that, you know, that

036we're not all boxes for all individuals, right? And um so anyway, I'm I'm I'm happy to see you doing that. Thank you. And if we make school better for boys, I think it will make school better for people. I know that for spent a lot of time here in the principal. Okay, that's it. Okay, you're now. All right. So just uh we've been doing a garden activity on Mondays from 11 to 1 um out here by our garden and uh this last Monday we had the center come and help us with gardening in Southtown. Uh reading foundation comes every week and gives out free books to kids. I give out autoops and um kids pick vegetables from the garden. Right now we only have lettuce, sugar snap peas, although they're almost gone. Uh those are

037I think what we're having and kale. But the tomatoes, there's a ton of green tomatoes out there. So in a few weeks I'll be gone, but you guys will be having some red ripe tomatoes for everybody. Oh, the strawberries got picked like crazy yesterday. But the kids get a little bag fill with vegetables and fresh fruits and stuff and then they get their books and their otter pops and other parents get to talk and socialize. And then the salmon center came and did a little presentations. Last week the um uh conservation board came and did a bunch of presentations for the kids which is really neat. So it's it's a great opportunity for the kids to come and participate. How many children might be um we have a lot of families that keep coming back

038which is great that kids get new books every week and so I'd say we probably have 30 kids a week. Not all at the same between those two hours, um, probably about 30 kids. That's So that's been really fun. And And when did they get to pick the vegetables and at the same time? So we set it all up right there by the Yeah. So they come on back and they the books are there. I'm there with a cooler full of water pops and gardens for the kids. Did they go through and pick their vegetables, get their otter pops, get some books? I'm sure you have plenty of kale. Lots to bunch. Oh, somebody actually took it. Oh, no. We have kids and families who take it, but there's a lot of kale because it

039grows so easily. So, you have so much. So, I just took a whole bunch and washed it and froze it because it's it's it handles freezing so well. I saw a really good recipe for kale. Um they they you wash it really well and then you throw it away. But yeah, it was a short YouTube, but it's been a lot of fun and I love South Sound Reading Foundation. They um just come with so many books and like they're they just support our teachers with books constantly. They say, "We really want some more of these kinds of kids are loving these novels." So they will bring a box full of those which is just [Music] sorted um by variety organizations. Bookmobile is basically a library and you check them out. These are all free. [Music]

040Um, we've got teachers coming in starting about August 19th. Um, they're going to come on back and start setting up their classrooms, but nobody is moving classrooms except over in the middle school a little bit, but it's not major. So, um, it's, you know, Some years we've got like three or four teachers moving class options for different reasons, you know, to collaborate and stuff like that. So, it's actually pretty straightforward business. Uh so, but teachers are coming back in. They've come in earlier if they want to, but um we talked to Apollo and kind of made it clear that like the 19th that's when we've got some, you know, the focus is going to be on setting up. So they're going to try to abide by that timeline as much as um things which will

041be good. I um so that that's kind of where we're at that um we have open house on the 26. So you know you saw that we have the staff P days on the 26th and 27th. The 26 is also our back to school night open house and we have um we are also combining that with a resource fair. Um we were talking to the bigger school districts in our area and there's so many community resources that they access on a regular basis that a lot of families don't know about here in great view even if they qualify for them. So we have crossroads housing coming. So I reached out to all basically every resource I could county but these ones have confirmed crossroads housing is coming. um wise wraparound services at the family services,

042family education and support services and the coalition of Mason County churches are all coming to set up um a little table and have flyers and talk to families in our community about what they and what programs they have for them. So, I'm really excited about that and hopefully we'll get more um that's just what we have coming so far and we use a lot of these resources already. Um, we have students who have the wise rockaround services. Um, we have students that that work with the coalition of Mason Mason County churches. They provide our backpack program um for food for the weekends for our students. So, we work with some of them, but they're going to be there to really talk directly to the parents and say, "We're here. We have resources for you. We

043have supports for you. Um, and and this is how you reach out to us." So, I'm excited for that. Uh yeah, the PTA will be here as well and probably the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. What organization does the back? The coalition of Mason County Churches sounding. [Music] Yeah, I did send them an email with the um connection. I hope they can make it out to um several people said we're gonna we're gonna try our best. They haven't confirmed. These are just the ones who confirmed. And then on the 26th and 27th, like you said, we have PD days going. We have a lot of great stuff. Um our LLT team and Jerry are going to the Character Strong conference. It's tomorrow and Thursday. Um and so they're going to come back with um even

044more ideas for using Character Strong. Um, we've been using it, but even even better ways to use it with students next year and using it uh we've got some plans in place to to use it with a little bit more fidelity so that they're consistently getting those messages more, you know, a unified message um in our community focus groups, you know, we're focusing on empathy, cooperation. So, that's going to be good. And um I went to a character strong training in January for several days. So this is the other team. But that's all I have. Thank you. Question. Okay. Number nine. Tracy. I guess [Music] real quick. So the general fund of 10 as of June was 538,2667 at 16,26158 um project 782,47604 transportation 2,914 and the debt service funds have 561,9465 any fund balance

045for the month um uh July of 69,7642. So this is where the re what we actually have happened. You'll start seeing in our numbers and so as you can see the projected is increasing which I hope for. I project really high on vouchers and deals for the last two months anticipating that something comes through and so it leaves us with a little bit higher balance which is nice. um we are going to uh receive um our safety net money. There's one final report that we have to submit which for further deadline and so in the year end projected balance I've included $50,000 as the 78,000 that we'll be receiving. Um I did that primarily because I use that number as our beginning fund balance in the in the budget. So we because we were going

046to get it and it helped us get off the ground. So right now I'm projecting fund balance um with just the 50,000 in there 611 to be 56.2 for your end. So we've done we've done really well at holding the expenditures getting oursel back on track. We applied for 80,000 Jerry and I think they moved it down to 78,200 and something and so we should have received that should be 71 basically three one and then two other students. Okay, that's good news. And it'll be something that we'll have to do every year. could have been one of the last special costs was one of the factors of our expenditure increases special ed students and um of course our insurance we need that So, and then adding this back in when we've done our budget planning,

047we know I know what's out there. We talk about it in camp, but I really didn't include it until we got closer to actually and they have the last day because I started not the center and final. So they it's a kind of a preliminary and Jerry got a letter that they preinary a preliminary award and we just have to send in a last report of our actual expenditures through the end of July and then they'll so that's really good news. Any other questions jump in the budget. So, this was a challenging budget this year, but um I want to just thank everybody. We started back in March actually. I was looking at my notes um in our admin team to talk about um what we were looking at, what we could see happening with

048our enrollment decline um knowing that we were losing. So, that's really when we start the process. sometime this in depth and sometimes you know we kind of go along until the legislature gets done especially if they're making big changes um but we started this process in March so I'm happy this is the last time I'll talk about I have a poweroint which is going to get us just a high level overview so this budget um is based on a student FTE of 198 and that is for our enrollment in kindergarten through 8th It also has a student FTE for transition to kindergarten of 12 students. And so Hannah was talking tonight. I think she already knows that we have more than 12 students registered for TK. So that's good news and that's kind of working.

049I wanted to see me come in. I think we're feeling pretty confident that we will in K through eight come in higher than 19. I'm just not sure for you. As always, this you know budget is primarily focused on goals and objectives of the district with student achievement being number one. There's a big focus on STEM social emotional health and academic growth for students. It also um maintains our 9%ed minimum fund balance which is directed by policy from the board and so we were able to do that our 9%. So that's good. And the reason they were able to get there is because of the adjustments that you made and I'll talk about a little bit too and feeling back on staff changes. So I'm going to start a little bit with history and I

050always do this and looking at enrollment. So enrollment drives um our staffing and both of those things drive the revenue that we get from our state. And so this kind of gives you kind of a seven-year history of our enrollment. And Hannah was right about our FTE that did 240 FTE. That year when we reported, we lumped those kids actually into kindergarten. They were quoted a little bit differently, but it went on that enrollment report. And hopefully someday the state will just change it all together. So it is so confusing. But so that number, the 239 represents the 17 kids that we have. I mean the TK as well as from that point forward it's separate numbers every when you back up that history but in 2021 that was prek with that prek plus co

051plus the big eighth grade correct there's only a large eighth grade class that graduating okay thanks so there is cycle too. You can kind of see we kind of start, you know, moving up. I don't think we've ever been at 240 except in recent time. So that is because we've added that. So we'll be able when we jump up, we're going to see those numbers bigger. So um our average at the for the 23 24 year was 219 again through eight. Um and when they looked at that plus looking at um that large class leaving that those 32 kids um some other information we were getting back. We do surveys. We talk to parents so we kind of get a good feel for who's leaving the district but we really don't know what time or

052budget is who's coming. you know, we can certainly look at numbers and do some estimations, but I if I can't, I always try to build it just really what we know because, you know, we could open the year. We don't want to have to not open with the number of kids that we budgeted for. So, um, that just helps us meet our goals. So all of that brought us to the 198 FTE staffing. This is a seven year history of our staffing and it is work out the blue being the certificated staff and the um red being the classified staff. And so um we've talked about this a few times, but we overall decreased staffing by 2.2 two three FTE. So when I talk about FTE that's full-time equipment, we did a lot of things

053within the school. Um so when we talk about PAR and I want to talk about this part because it's people like Mr. Mueller kind of needs to hear that it wasn't just this blanket cut of you know moving people out of the classroom. Always the goal is to have as you know many teachers and staff that we can wherever need is in the classroom but we were able um to put a pepper back in the classroom was actually in our office and remember Katie was paid half of her time was paid out of Eser so losing those dollars didn't allow us to keep one position wasn't funding and so we we did decrease a para in the We actually we decreased her by two not have to make the TV um which was a chunk

054of money that we saved $100,000. Um but we also put Katie back in. So we're down one camera overall. Plus we also brought in our teacher, our interventionist teacher. She was ripped during the process of budget but she was re um contracted in June after dependent where we settled in the budget. So that help on kids is there too. So there's good a good sign the programs being and needs of the program are being met by the staff we have. We got to close things away from kids. We move things around some areas like dinner will probably be higher for kitchen help that we had maybe not to the level we had last year will start to bring and that's in budget. So, and when we say we cut, we cut, yes, we did cut,

055but not a significant cut that would impact kids. We also, the other piece was one FTE for our teacher. We lost that large class when those kids moved into middle school. That's when we added and broke out how we were teaching for those that those that large classes left. So plan on bringing the teacher back once we had those classes. So that's kind of how we ended up where we are with the people that we brought back. Are we able to diversify them a little bit better than we would a Paris? Like if we can keep the Kate in the office, we can then use her in other escro dollars. Does that make sense? start back up that we've um so we actually moved a little bit of Britney's time in the morning to cover

056her office because we do have a new secretary coming in and so she's funded right now. Britney is a little bit out of the superintendent's office, a little bit out of the business office, HR actually, and um a big county transportation. She does a lot of secretarial work for transportation. Some of that is going to put her into student support in the office. um so she can kind of cover in the morning while the new secretary especially during the moment they just need a lot of time process so they'll be coverage better and actually Michelle um is another great person that we can use just as backup or something in our office she'll be a very nice ang so we have some back up there and of course we can pull but Katie is being

057used you know to be with students um and so it's harder to pull her off of that was in an absolute student. So we try to fill the non student related things although that is you know in other ways but your question may I think we've said this before there is a shift in philosophy our intervention program we've always pushed in or pulled out and used paris a lot for those small groups that's changing somewhat um and we're using a teacher teaching staff and the biggest reason for that is because get funding and so on too, right? Our funding formula really really restricts us especially in the K. Our class size one one student or 17 students to one teach and so that helps us. We have a teacher that we can have on staff

058so much and you know parents are great too but we don't get funding for them. The funding source is knowing that we find something to exhaust for all schools except the other program like transportation very small. So the next piece we look at revenue is we look at first and then we look at our general fund our fund balance and so um this budget has a remaining fund balance of 571940. It has total revenues of 4,11,151 and expenditures of 4,198,505. That leaves us with a projected ending fund balance at the end of this fiscal year budget this year of 384,586 and the board has a 9% minimum 9% fund balance. So we do that tight. We only have about 60 $500 left over but we still need that goal in this budget. I talked a

059little bit about how student generates students and staffing generate our revenues. And so one of the things we always look at and I left this information her student cost is actually in this budget at 10,860. That's the guaranteed amount that you get per empty. So if our enrollment is bigger or larger than 198 we get $10,000. Other revenues that we receive are um federal grants, state grants and our enrichment funding, special education as another piece of our revenue um that we get. Um I mentioned this amount. So basically in this budget we will receive based on about 31 kids um which is two FT less than last year budget we will net more revenue of about $17,600. The reason I even point that out is because when we look at expenditures expenditures increased over 100,000

060and so that points out again how important that safety net is to make some of that up but that really is a major cause of why we have to look at all the budget and make adjustments in other areas to accommodate those dollars. Um those are none employment related related dollars but we have to make it up somehow as we pass those bills. So it'll just be important to just keep applying for safety net. It's really watching other areas be challenging. Also revenues are increased by the ID increase uh 3.7%. Um we do and we'll receive um reorganization that started last year. There's a four-year cycle on that. So for four years we'll get 6% more for salaries which is nice. That helps us. And also our sub allocation increased to 100 $1,178 per funded.

061Next to our revenue is our enrichment levy. And so we passed our levy and our new levy for this coming year will be 846,724. We expect revenues um in total of869490. So that's combination of our fall levy which is collecting at the last piece of the 2024 levy of 87,000 and reflection of this new spring levy. Um, and so I think I just mis but our cost per thousand is um 56 cents and 66 cents per thousand for our investment le and we will be receiving about $93,000 more in levy this year in revenues. I know it's all of us think that's because we're paying more tax agree with that. But it does help us maintain the programs that we have. It really does. I wish it could change someday, but right now we need

062those dollars to continue to operate. On the expenditure side, um major changes or increases. So salary basically for staff are between 2.5% and 8%. And so although we get the IPD from the state or cola with one possibility increase was 3.7% we also have built into our salary schedules um step increases and so when you add an IPD on a step increase of three or 4% that gets your increases up pretty large. Um and so that is again something we have to balance. It's something we have to do to be competitive on other districts. All other districts are doing the same thing. Um but it becomes challenging at budget time when we only have certain ways to increase our that is one of the things that can help support our you know our our levy

063helps support too. Um, also is this the um, and the expenditures of course is the $78 per month um, increase instead of the payments the district pays per FTE budgeted subsidies at 45,000 four professional development days in three of them are state funded quote unquote only to a certain amount. It doesn't it's not enough money to pay for the staff but it does it does one statistic we have allocated amounts for cash out for retirement or leave cash out and um our insurance this was a great thing that happened at the end of the year we ended up budgeting 83,000 that's our projected invoice for our new insurance company which is $7,000 less than we actually paid last Yeah. And 28,000 um less than what we were projected to to pay for our insurance from

064clear risk. So that's that's a big um special education expenditures. This is what I was talking about. So they are $10,000 over what we budgeted last. So those are the big items that we have to adjust for in this budget. [Music] over last year. Uhhuh. Gota there is a program break down here. I really can't remember off the top of my head. It's more like 400 something,000 420,000 budget total for special pie chart that shows you what we have expenditures by object code and the object code over here. So basically salary benefits big supply materials and the percentage in those categories of our budget that we spend with those and then I do it again by activity shows you um the percentage that we spend on instruction instructional support service transportation maintenance and operations and

06564 and those numbers for each it's pretty consistent. Yeah, it's pretty much that's I'd have to look at that. It's pretty I I don't imagine it's pretty, you know, when you budget, you want to keep your salaries and benefits below 80%. Um, and we're we're right we did well this year because if you get above 80% there's many things you can't do and you start to you know lose revenue or have to make adjustments you can't. You simply can't. So because you're under contract and so getting much over that is really challenging should be available. This is what we call our MSOs disclosure. And so I think this one related the most. So are costs that are nonappointed. So the cost to running the building, our utilities cost here, our insurance costs, all of those

066things go under. And we're required OSP requires that we break out those that we're paying out of program 01. Those which is basic education, those that were paying out of program seven, which is um district support basically. um the total and how that looks compared to what our revenue is. And so we definitely spend more in those areas than we received from the state. But this year they were generous enough to give us money to help for our insurance plan of about 10 grand. Well, because we're budgeting at a lower number, we actually are receiving about $10,000 less in revenue because it's based on FTE, which if you ask me is ridiculous, but than we did last year. So, really, we didn't get anything more even though they think they did. We have a deficit

067of about 10,000, but this is our the difference between what we receive in revenue and our cost. Surely so this is my activity too. So can you spell out what the S and the O and the C is? Oh, we do. It's maintenance, supplies, operations, and something. They used to call them about another one. They used to call them nerves, not employee related cost. That was easier. But I'll follow up. A couple years I'll remember what are so anything that's not employee, right? And so also in here is our non and things like that because they're not employment related. So those those numbers, you know, that brings that up our utility costs, those those, you know, those are have big impact. Our our payment for our our high need students that are attending that's also

068No, I take that back. It's not Ryan. contract. Yes. I think I have 90 90,000. Okay. This is just going to be a brief overview of which fund. um capital projects fund we have revenue projected at 1,41,800 expenditures at 1,369,800 that is our um small schools modern modernization grant that we're working on and so um you will receive some indirects and so I'm showing the beginning fund balance here of 133,476 and an ending time balance of 17376 that difference is the indirect that you don't plan to spend. Basically, I did budget some of them if you could choose to spend them on something, but not it would be nice to be able to let some of that kind of stuff and build that balance back up service fund. This fund is used to service the

069debt of the district. So we pay principal and interest payments double this and what goes into it is local property taxes and temporary excise tax. So we start our um the year with 569,947. Our revenues um are at 986618. Our principal and interest payments for the year are 1,144,682 and end the year with 43,82. So I'm losing a little bit of that excess balance and that has a very small effect on the cost per thousand or the levy that we have to support that transportation vehicle fund. We are expecting about an $82,000 um payment which is about $50,000 more than you would normally receive in our depreciation this year. Um it's we're exiting bus 11. So it's kind of a payment I guess. So that'll put our beginning balance at 238,162. Um and then for

070next year I'm budgeting 58,40 which will be next year's depreciation and interest. I've also budgeted to purchase a bus which is one of the things I want to start a process with before I leave the district so that we can get we haven't done that yet. So, we went a bus on order, but we do have a little bit more money in there to spend on that um with an ending time balance of 600 6,608 as um ASB is ran by our student body. Um and have to say since over we have earned quite a bit of money. So round six grand in the last two years she said it's so we have a beginning time balance of 6 or 16,460 we budgeted um of 10,500 expenses of 10 meeting with the same that gives

071them money to spend to do extension um in the next section I have a kind of a print out they don't have to go there now but I did include because she's done she's really brought these kids belong. There is a process that kids go through. They actually have to develop their home budget and so it makes them think about budget in the coming year. What kinds of fundraising? It forces them to do some planning and some anticipation of what they are expect to gain when they have those significant things. And then also it helps pre-plann are you going to do you know what social events are you going to have? So I there's a copy of it down here of her her form that she uses. She goes through that with kids and the

072kids sign off on it and then submit that to me. So she's really worked with the kids and the just her job really really help. The last piece is the four forecast and I think I'm going to skip that and come back after I go through just a couple more points and I think I need to go through. Maybe I don't. You can just tell me when you're done. This is your smile. Okay. Um I did I've always done this and so I still continue it. Um I do kind of a memorandum of what kind of went into thought there to make up the budget, the things that changed just like we discussed. Um and then I also include pages out of the um the whole budget doc budget document is sitting right there in

073front of Jesus multiple pages. It goes by program. It breaks up in ways. You're welcome to always take a look at that um and ask any questions you want. But I do um kind of keep some pages um for you to look at in here full interested. Couple things I want to point out is we talked about class 198 FTE. So our average class size um for TK through kindergarten is 21 kids. So in all the lower grades up through I think um third grade kindergarten to third grade I budgeted 21 kids too. So that's a pretty good class size. Um, and so this there's some reports we are welcome to look at about what our class sizes were in each of the grade levels that we budgeted for. And then as we move through

074the year, we're going to know are we getting those, you know, are we getting to be too good? We need to put things in place. And just to kind of go off of what Hannah has said too is we don't um supporting teachers with more dollars only happens if the class size is um 12% or 11% 11% more than what we um we have to be over by 11% and then they'll start so one student doesn't generate but always and even our staff is they really try to get other resources on kids if they needed they have a you know one over FTE in our class sign but name their classes just the demographics it's tough time so we try to put other help in first for them um before we start painting sometimes we

075have to do it all because it's more step um the other piece here is there's a report called sheet in the bottom right hand corner And this really just breaks out by expendure. Again, it does some comparisons to prior year percentages. Um, and so this shows you that we're this year we're at 7 79.01 is our total percentage um to the budget for all of our employee cost. So we're just right below that 80%. And then there's some more breakouts with the summary um in different categories on all thumbs. So you're welcome to look through that and we'll focus. I will go down to the very last to the um you should have a last section in there that's called forecast. So a few years ago we were required by its I included the the

076uh general fund because all the other funds are pretty boring. I want to explain a little bit this time. Sometimes I'll go through and start tweaking and learning a little bit and give some predictions on what we think it will be. I decided this year, first of all, I don't even know what's honestly. They might um I think when we had our bond, they looked at it, but other than that, I don't even have a saying. So, um I just let left everything very static. I did 190 FME and kept staffing at the same levels. And then when I went through to look at the um expenditures and revenue increases, I increased um the revenue side by an IP of like 3%. And I bumped that up plus 3% when I looked at expenditures. Really

077what I'm just trying to paint the picture there is that we have these costs that we know for sure will increase in our staffing and what does that do our time balance because just like we struggled this year and when we took the first glance of budget we were think we were looking at being in the negative. That is what we we do want our projections to show that to the state to say there is a time where we will we can no longer we're not being funded to support just what we have now and so that's the story we kind of want to tell that is and then this report the summary called the F195 it will break out forecasted expenditures and revenue and calculates a a forecasted time balance and in year three.

078So this is current year we go to 2026 2027 this forecast projects 85 balance of 124,227 and then in the the following year if everything stayed like was planned in this it would be almost a half mill. So don't don't so our reserve gets wiped out three or year two in year three. So we're counting this year, this budget year. Yeah. Yeah. So the story we want to tell if they're looking is we haven't done anything different. We're just saying our enrollment is going to stay the same. Our staffing levels are going to stay the same, but we know that, you know, our our costs are going to increase by a pretty conservative rate. And so, but we don't see our revenues going to support that. And it's okay to tell that story that it

079doesn't mean that's how it's going to turn out at all. So every budget process that you go through, whoever sets in the seat will make that balance. So you send the team and hopefully by then attention's been given enough to the larger districts that are actually looking at that. They're in the negative now or a little bit negative next year. And the state has to Well, pioneers way worse than this, but they're they're I think OSPI is going to be getting the common story. I mean, we're not the only one, right? And I mean, we're better off than most, but but it's because we're very diligent about what we're doing here and we're able to make those adjustments. I know. But that tells you that tells you how that there's something seriously seriously wrong. And

080and uh you know I mean whether or not they're going to pay attention or not. I mean they're they're going to have to in year three, right? It's really a legislative issue. Yeah, it really is. I mean, we're already spending over, you know, 52% of our state budget education. Where does where does that go? Well, we were it's gone down. We're down. Oh, as the bud as the revenues went up. Yeah. I mean, we've got surplus revenues. My question, and I don't know if I have this answer, I'll find it up, but why do we have surplus revenues? Is that because we have the new school tax in there? You know, How many? It it was the the few penny increase on the gas. Remember how that was only going to cost pennies, right? And

081and the um capital gains tax and so, you know, my question is is is where does that get sucked up? And and in my mind, it's probably at the top, but maybe I'm biased, right? sucked up by consultants and studies and this and that. And you know, when it comes down to when they're deciding to send our tax dollars back to us, it's it's pretty light. I would like to see that, too. I would love to see the state at least send that. So, we're paying. It's there. You know, it's being used for that's how they take care of soon,000. [Music] I don't know how how we could live without the Department of Education, but you know, I mean, things would just go Sorry. It's okay. I'm kind of So, have we ever budget forecast?

082We have last year in the last year. I'm asking for I'm asking for a frame here. Yeah. And someone in the community said how could we think about it's like the answer is that going knowingly they seem somehow that mindful to embrace the bill. We do I mean we do you know lots of things this is just like a budget forecast of what we anticipate educated what's going to happen. This is supposed to it's supposed to be a tool to help us. It's you're getting a point for us. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also the point is there are too many media parts to even come up with an educated guess of what's going on in the future. That's why I thought, you know what, I'm just leaving it static. This is a low number. We've

083had to make adjustments. Let's just show them what happens if we don't do anything different. So a 10 10 increase in a large but there's also a be okay I have a question to the teacher ratio um is there a way to make the middle school more appealing since we can get more students in um is Is that a point that we can make? Um, yeah. I mean, that's not usually a problem. Our eighth graders that just left, they were 34 and then the sixth grade coming in will be 28 2. So, our middle school is pretty. Well, it it used to be where where people would their kids would get to middle school and they transferred to Hawkins because they had more programs and things. So the sports was better sports and but we

084we made a an effort to um you know bring in better performing arts and you know improve our our sports which we have and and uh so so since then we we don't see a we don't see that as commonly as it was yeah as much so um because I know that my daughter graduated uh like 13 people that's probably familiar to you. So um you know they get to know each other really well. So I think we we do offer competitive especially arts Michael but um but you're right I mean we could probably well I just look at the the numbers of what Hannah was presenting the TK students and it builds up from there. My question is like where could we market? You know, is that an option? Right. Well, you know that

085big class that just left, 11 of those kiddos were how many of those are special? Yeah, that's the middle school kids that come out of they can be problems. So just looking at it um I don't I was angel this um so once for us. But this is very clear. This toward [Music] this is a public hearing. [Music] So, I had a quick question just I saw the M socks in there. Um, but where is the practice the the ridiculous acronym confusing funding schemes? predominantly federal. That's where my mind was going. All these acronyms. Oh, wait. This is being recorded. Okay. All right. So, if there's no more questions, I'd like to close number 11. Thank you again to number 12. [Music] I'll be here. So effectively the public hearing we are in that process

086discussion like motion to approve. I I move that we approve resolution 072324A adoption 24 2025 budget second discussion is the new bus going to cost good question I'm going to guess over 15 what's the lead time on say Oh, quick. Oh, I'm going. Wow. I really need to do some more MTA is getting two years. Yeah. So when we look at the best seats available seats filers being fully utilized no what's going I that um where so we have two buses that are completely full and over. We probably will and have talked about adjusting some routes a little bit so that we can fill up the one that goes to the lakes load of kids. like 35 kids on the bus and so but we have talked about adjusting locally right here in our area

087moving those kids to that bus [Music] right analysis saying we need a 50 sheep we're buy seriously look at this times because we have please it really is our TK kids. They're so little and so not used to being free when they're in an automobile that having seat belts and those seats would be a nice but then it would only be on my car. Okay. There are no more questions. [Music] All in favor? We have an approved budget. Thank you. Okay. Item number C, impact mitigation conclusion comment. It's a roll over. Okay. This is my instruction building. So that uh item number C discussion line superintendent schedule next discussion. Yeah. So um as you know budget I'm not fulltime here. So I uh obtained partic [Music] trying to figure out a way to ease the

088schedule. They're too far away for me to not stay over right situation. Um, and so I need to go and so I'm looking at the schedule and I need to put those dates together. So it makes sense to do a Monday or Tuesday or maybe a Thursday or Friday theirs. Um, and so their board meetings are on Tuesdays and I talk to them and they're willing to change it to Mondays if you need it, but um, I'm not sure that that would really mean much. I hope so. So, we're the fourth and they're the third floor except for I'm up there. I Yeah, I expected you to work there and come back from being there by five. Sounds a little crazy. Yeah, just because last time I drove back, it took four hours. So, that

089doesn't sound like Well, that's the same. So that's ridiculous. As I looked at the various options, they're willing to move, but that just creates a different problem that doesn't really solve the problem fully. Um the cleanest solution would be if we had our meetings on Wednesdays. Um then I'm there Monday, Tuesday. I take care of all of them and their work. Then their board meetings on those days. And um and then I'm here Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Have our board meetings. We have our planning meetings on Wednesday and then it's it's just a lot cleaner for me and everybody hopefully um if we switched our board meetings to work Friday there's something that is a real beneficial Fridays um can be a behavior challenging day and the additional administration on Fridays really would be very awesome.

090Friday you were thinking Wednesdays better Wednesday works better for me. Sure. Thank you. Yeah, as long as So when would this come in? Um whenever we decided to make that. Yeah, we would Well, it could be August if we decided today to create that in our calendar and then we we published it. We have time enough in our schedule to make that happen. We could probably some things for next month. Do we need a motion? Um, this is discussion from and then we will need to down below approve a board calendar the 28th. Can we intercept one thing? I'm sorry. The 28th is the first day of school. Yeah, that's that's really exciting. for a better life. I'm not worried about your retirement life. I appreciate that. So, we started in September. So, September, we

091start the meeting. Same time. Are you okay with the time? It's great. Thankful that we do it at five. Some places do it at six. I was expecting [Music] So item D move to the for 2024 25 calendar. Okay. Any more discussion? All in favor? Hi. Hi. Thank you. You can't I will make my question. Well, seriously. And if you're just you can't come in like with information just like I'll be I'll be in the morning. So that budget that got printed and it's all color of nice calendar I Okay, moving right along. But Tom, you're up in item 13. I had a meeting with Representative. I was in a a volunteer on railroad Friday the big show the B show the expo and uh Travis was there his wife and I planned it all.

092It was a a divine appointment. We had a really good conversation and we're going to get together soon and talk about how he feels we can better impact what's going to happen this fall leading up to the legislative legislature in the back of January. And uh you know I'm not optimistic. I'm not optimistic. But like I mentioned before um we need to fight. We just can't say okay the state government doesn't believe what we're telling them. They don't believe that that a quality education is important then uh they got the power. But we have power too. We have the ability to fight. Did Travis I think you said this before he's certainly keenly aware of the positive special needs [Music] that came up. Yes, I guess that's very small. down to policy approval. We have

093a motion to approve policy. So I'll second this one pretty straightforward 2000 2000 [Music] I think it's primarily the statements about it's a big hot button across the state across the country AI Yeah. And the whole issue of let's say what's distracting, what's available, what kind of policies are we going to have. It was interesting. We want to go ahead and have have this internet capability, but just the safety stuff. That's that's going to be a ch The state is a committee on AI at the next session. Travis has been appointed. Um but it's people are taking it pretty seriously. Yeah, it was the subject of our last superintendent conference right a lot of effort one of the first policies um and and I was uncertain and we have people already using various activities and

094and staffing and so I think the idea really here our Let's let's get ahead of it, right? Um we worry about calculators and then we worry about internet and other issues and AI is a is a tool that we train them to be helpful not to go away. So how can we use it to make it work? So that's what they've already been working. I've got a couple of young 17-year-old fish and it was an interesting one discussion about career choices today that they're into their chosen skill set by AI when I graduated from college the internet existed years later I was in charge of the I just thought security. I have a nephew who runs a um a school for they call it neurode divergent kids. probably just like on the spectrum kind of

095thing. and they use he's a tech nerd and they use AI because they just put in a topic like one kid likes vacuum cleaners and they just put in a topic and in the AI and it comes back with books that they might use and possible lesson plans and I mean it's just like this whole sal of information that they could pick and choose from because it's so specialized for that partic because it kind of freaks me out. He's like, and it actually freaks him out out a little bit too the whole he said for certain things it's magic. Yeah, you have to check it because it's not always right. Yeah. And I have been using it with various things and we found things that were that's not right. So the state Yeah. And uh

096but then other times we found used it on a candidate that we're looking at position with some dirt otherwise and ended up more phone calls than it I call new technologies pros and cons but it will be part of what we do and This policy really is not changed dramatically except anybody mentioning that. Okay. You know, I was just I was gonna I was gonna ask if any does anybody know who Alan Turn was the I think that's his name guy that that cracked code. Oh yeah, I saw anyway he um he predicted AI way back way back then. Brilliant brilliant guy, right? and he he basically his theory was is that AI is is not actual intelligence. It's it's an imitation game. And so what it's doing is imitating. That's why it's not always

097right. You know, it's it's imitating what what it it thinks that you're asking or or whatever. And then it's highly dependent on you. So, so it's it's not as scary as as people are making. You know, it's not like Skynet is gonna send a Terminator back from the future, you know? I know that might be kind of fun, but but it's but it's it's it's really not it it's not as frightening, you know? It's what's more frightening is is what people can can use it for evil for. That's right. Right? That's the not the part that you know, hey, help me figure out a different word for them or whatever. Right. And and it it's it's people using it to scam people and to cause mischief that that's really where the the danger is. Okay.

098Any more discussion? I'd like a motion. I'm shooting for vote on policy. I Okay, I'd like to motion approve policy 2023. I move to approve policy and second. Yes. Discussion. shall kill me. [Music] All right. No more discussion. All in favor? Okay. like a motion approve policy 2124 physical education second okay discussion when I read this second paragraph here talks about physical education class then when we get down to the bottom of this we're looking at must conduct annual news. They want to know an indication whether continually exclude students from PS is that disciplinary method wasn't sure what that meant to bring it up in discussion just if we don't do it then why would we have one two three four we used to punish kids by way they punish by having go. Can we

099look at that? This one. [Music] I bet he still has to do the report though. It just Okay. [Music] Okay. Any more discussion? All in favor? 100%. Okay. And now the future agenda I think we should uh set call for late fall for session. No we tried that last month in December knocked it out. So okay retreat and I'd like a topic on at that to be how we are going to look far enough out in advance and are we do we have a a a frame of mind that we can as it relates to the budget and the fact that three years out the way the current system works we're going to be near collapse and four years out we're no longer gring school and I would like our board to have some philosophical

100or perspective conversation of what are we willing to do to get tough or what kind of decisions can we make that will enable us to hang on and I don't want to wait until we're on top of it. I want to talk about think about it and I've got a lot of a lot of ideas about or in other words we can't just go status quo status quo status quo status quo we made significant adjustments this year to get the budget into a framework we could work with it I think it'd be pretty foolish if we didn't object and say what if what if what Yeah. Then what kind of approaches? So can I monitor discussion here? We all aware and in the and in this future vision that you're looking to wrap our arms

101around just I don't think I know the squat either. strengths, weaknesses, um threats. So typically when one would say ominous task you could do a collective group just like here any question strength what's the strength of GS50 then what's the weaknesses either of GS54 and then what are the opportunity for GS54 then what are the effects and it's just a way to and then you get down and you prioritize the topic and it just gives you a really clear vision and we many times what we doing that might be again that's the way I know there's a better way Jerry and well I almost feel like our our backs Starting against the wall. What What else can we for the next budget for next year? What more can be scaled back? It's not much. No.

102What will drive that more than anything? Everything else stay out was a big piece of that was a substantial injection, you know, $450,000. So that adjustment's been done. We're not going to get that. There won't be as much change. All Esther did really was postponed the McLar decision consequences and and you know so really co actually saved a bunch of school districts. Yeah. G co and um you know really and now it's far enough down that nobody's talking about the mccclary decision which is really actually the root cause. So you know attention span the politicians is pretty short. So many know you're like sitting here thinking about thinking how to how well we look at opportunity my thought is initiatives how many signatures can we get to say hey we need this much more for

103our schools how hard is it to get 50,000 or 80,000 signatures within Washington state because then that doesn't that force the legislation to do something about the school district or whatever is proposed to be addressed. Yeah. I mean, if it's statewide, you need you need like it's a percentage of 300 like almost 400,000 signatures and um and then but you know, you gota you got to understand if if we're getting that money where where where is there a decrease to to pay for that, right? So, it's, you know, you got to have a plan for that because you can't just say, you know, give us all this money and we have no idea where it's going to come from, you know, good luck. I think it interesting that we look at a property, 52% of

104what we pay with school. Oh, we only get 50% 52% back. We're paying for a school outside of our community. That's what we're paying for and and you know those kids neither too like but I don't think anybody's really paying for us that is a piece of pipel and it's not a law it's a you know it's a formula that they have set up to fund schools and so they take all those state dollars and they equalize that to different school districts and partners probably and so we can fight for that we supply that specific thing. We're not going to I don't I don't think that the majority of politicians sit there and say, "Hey, you I don't want a quality education for our kids." I don't think that. I think with you know when

105they go into session like this short session there were 3,000 new proposed laws in a short session now in Idaho I think it was like 180 okay and we are ridiculous in this state and and you know they're hitting the ground running and they you know once they come up with their little anac you know you know their little um program they Oh, well, I got the school an extra thousand dollar, right? And good for me, you know, I'm going to put that on the back of a flyer somewhere. And then and then they move on to the next ridiculous thing that's coming down the way. And so, I don't think they sit there and go, how can we, you know, starve the school districts. I think they they think that they're doing the right

106thing, but they're just so out of touch, you know, they're not here, right? and it's complex and it's very complex and then there's all these different different I mean as evidenced by your budget, right? There's all these weird dumb little things that you have to deal with. And I'm I'm sorry. I'm just going to call it stupid. I mean it is kind of dumb that you have to and when you were going through it I'm thinking okay a business you know business degree graduate comes to the school has no idea about yeah they would get he would they would right because how do you know about all this okay so so what I'm saying is is that is that we can't go into it thinking that you know everybody's a bad guy they're they're But

107they don't un they don't we need to come up with a way that we can that we can do a concise message of why it's broken and and what the possible fix is because they're not going to think of the fix. PE people like us and other school districts, the smarter people than me with, you know, it's just not a high bar to reach, but they have to they have to figure out, hey, this would be a solution and then you present that to a politician. That's how you that's how you deal with the legislation. Okay. Could that was that was my comment for tonight. Awesome. So, let's let's move right into item number 16 here. Region West. I already did one. Okay. Question already done. Okay. Tom, I love walking in the building and

108seeing these paper paths where we're supposed to walk because of the construction that's going on. you know, in addition to fighting for what we're do need to fight for staff and also I really liked your explanation choice program. Yeah. a lot of our minds up because we want as many kids in the door as we can. This kind of ties into what I I talked about earlier. As a ledger rep, I interact with lots and lots of sectors and they're all over the map and we've got something very special that a whole bunch of districts don't have. It doesn't matter the size or whatever. It gets harder the bigger you get because of bureaucracies and federal ways etc. We need to fight to keep what we have here as intact as we possibly can for

109as long thank you both [Music] sharing accessible and it's good to know that your choice is big deal. It's I think it's tricky though that we want more kids but we can't take everybody and we don't have enough. So, it's a it's a balancing act. But don't I I just want to add one little thing though. In my old school, when kids had too many parties, the punishment was they sent them off to the football field to clean up buffalo d which is bigger than anything. So, and I'm not anyway. So, I just thought I'd pass that on to talk about the kids. So we had breakfast and she got buffalo and you don't want to feed that baby in the window. But anyway, thank you. I think we need to create a we've all

110seen those ASPCA ads with the animals and the k and the kittens and all that. I think we need to create a map for that with our children and letting everybody know what our state is and maybe it'll put other people on blast and other people on notice and the sad eyes will tear at your heartstrings. No. Um, it's sad to see the state of our affairs and money, but I love everybody's optimism and willingness to move forward in this. This is a lot of learning [Music] finish your word. You're an index. Yeah, I'm there spot. Um 16 kids um see what I can do to help them out. Um I think um you know we have a little bit fair amount of discussion on the anxiety about finances projection but I would venture to

111say that almost every school district in the state fourth year is running out of money that's just the way those projections are working and then as we get closer things adjust we do have a pretty good voice in the state of Washington there's WASA Wazda and and then um group that I'm a part of which is the rural ed center um was really developed a a powerful voice because what's happened is there's lots of little little districts, right? But we've kind of grown together and they see us as a lot of schools that are coming together to to talk about rural issues and so we do get heard. Um and so um there's there's there will just keep fighting for every dollar, every grant, every way we can find so that we can um don't

112have to outrun the bear. We have to outr run our friends and um then eventually that we'll see more comprehensive solutions. Um, yeah, our meetings are great and I appreciate your support on the schedule change. Thank you. So, but so officially we're done at 7:03 p.m. I think wanted to say something. I just wanted to say our um Jerry's one of the really big things that he brought on board um the past few years that I've embraced heartily is hope and keeping hope as our um our forefront. It's in our tagline that I say every single day on the announcement that our future is bright and full of hope. Um their the students their future is bright and full of hope and that's what the core of our talk is. Um education uh through the

113state has been a struggle always. I am 14 years old went through a 16% cut. Um teachers had fun. [Music] It was it was really hard and um but a district like ours through with with exciting. Okay.