6-22-2026 Board of Education

0017:04, I will call this meeting to order. If everybody would please stand and we will recite the Pledge of Allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Board members, I just and community members, I just want to let everybody know that our admin team are all on vacation except for Mr. Leidermann. He's the last man standing here in person, but our admin team are connected virtually, so you will be hearing from them virtually. So, board members, the request is that when you're speaking, please use your microphone because that is the only way that the admin team can hear you. So, we will try this with roll call first. >>

002Okay. Jo Matic Nelson. >> Here. >> Angie Schreiber. Kirsten Mat Miller. Daniel Nicholson. >> Here. >> Gina Adams. >> Here. >> Mike Perszyk. >> Here. >> Melissa Cornelius. >> Here. >> Randy Myers. >> Here. >> Danny Pyatt. >> Here. >> Letter D is district mission and I've asked Melissa if she would please read the district mission, please. >> Mission: Driven by purpose, guided by integrity, defined by success. Vision: Build a proud Antigo community. Motto: Don't talk about it, be about it. >> Thank you so much. Number two, consent agenda. Letter A, approval of agenda, minutes, financial reports, report of retirement and resignation, report of new hires and overnight school activity trips. I will be looking for a motion, please. >> I like to make a motion to amend the agenda and move the pool conversation

003forward. I think there's a lot of people here that want to discuss that tonight and to be considered of everybody's time. Um, I would like to move that forward. >> Okay, we will take that vote to the board. I'll just remind uh the board that the discussion is among the board, not the people that that are here. The discussion for the pool is among the board members tonight. No open floor discussion. >> Sure. >> So, the motion has been made to move letter G uh full uh under number four, letter G uh before all other business. And I think Mike, do you want to add any more to your motion? >> No, I just want to move it forward. >> Okay. Any discussion or comments of the motion brought to us? >> The only question

004I have is, I know Kristen had stated with her work schedule she'd be coming late. Um, did she have a time frame in mind? >> Uh if I recall, she said 7:15 that she would be here. >> Okay. Just knowing that I don't know if Ms. Schreiber planned to be here or not, but um >> Angie is on the virtual link? >> She has the ability to >> Okay. Okay, I do know that Angie was in work in Marquette today. She let me know last night and she would try to come on if she can and if she has the cell service ability. >> We can we can pause for a few minutes. If the board wishes to, we can take a recess and hold the meeting until Kristen gets here if that's what the

005board wishes to do. If we want to move this item forward. Or we can move it anywhere in the agenda if we wanted to move it up to before or right after the administration reports and that would give Kristen a chance to get here. Um >> I'd be fine with that. >> So Mike, you want to amend your motion to move the pool up to uh after the administration reports? >> Yes, that's fine. >> Okay. So now the amendment to the motion on the floor is to move the item number 4G uh after the administration reports. Any discussion or questions of amending the the uh agenda? Okay. Hearing neither, you ready for a vote? This is the amendment to the motion that's on the floor. Your voting device is now open. Make sure your name

006is on the back of your device. >> My number is eight. >> Yes. >> I vote yes. >> That is acceptable. Would anyone like to change their vote? Hearing no one changing their vote, the vote is now closed. And the motion carries. The amendment to the motion carries with Jean voting yes on the amendment. Now that becomes the main motion. Are there any other questions or discussion of the main motion on the floor, which is to move item 4G to right after the administration reports? Hearing no questions or discussion, the voting device is now open. Okay, would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. And that motion carries. Yay, Jean, it worked. So we will go back to item two, consent agenda, approval of agenda minutes, financial reports, report of retirement

007and resignation, report of new hires and overnight school activity trips. I'll be looking for a motion. >> Danny, I've got a question. I I had a question about the uh new hire in terms of a license. And I didn't get an answer back by email. Um and so I'm not sure if I should not approve that without seeing that or if I can remove it from I'm not sure. What What do you recommend that I do there? >> So I know our administration is listening and I think they know who you're talking about. Obviously we can't disclose the name of the person publicly. Uh Mrs. Oginsky, do you have uh an answer for that that person that was in question? >> I do and it's part of operations, the day-to-day operations, and that person is

008a new hire and it's often times that new hires under that classification do not come with that. It's part of the support that they receive from the district with onboarding. >> Oh, so they'll get the license but they don't have the license now, basically. >> Correct. It It's very common practice because not often times do people make the decision that they want to entertain going into the educational field until after they've been hired. But yes, it's very common practice. >> Okay, thank you. >> Uh-huh. >> Now, I will entertain a motion for the consent agenda. >> I move to accept the consent agenda. >> Motion on the floor is to accept the consent agenda of approving the uh, June 8th special called board meeting minutes, report of retirements and resignations, report of new hires, overnight

009school activity trips, finance reports for May 26th and June 26th, and consideration of all current bills checks number 9750 through 9837 in the amount of $332,142.08, ACHs uh, numbers 252601377 through 2520601535 in the amount of $666,917.88. and wire transfers the amount of $16,662.50 for a total of $1,015,722.46. That is the consent agenda. Any questions? Uh Randy, would you like to speak to your motion? >> No. >> Any questions of the motion on the floor? >> Just a statement or feedback. Um excitement maybe is the best word for the number of applicants. Um 7, 30, and 41 applicants. >> [snorts] >> Any other questions or discussion for the motion on the floor? >> I need to abstain from a couple of the checks due to being employed part-time at Krieger and Stein Vest and Leemers Bus.

010Check number 1489, 1400, 1430, and 1490. >> Thank you. >> Deonna, did you get all of those numbers? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay, thank you. Any other questions or discussion? >> With the resignations and people leaving the district, this is a concern for me. Um are we doing any exit interviews at all? I know that was something that we've done in the past, years ago, but as of recent, um has that been happening, do you know? >> Uh to my knowledge, I'm not aware of that, but that again, that is an operational, not a board-level uh discussion. So, we'll ask Mrs. Oginsky to answer that question for you. >> Um so, currently, I'm not 100% certain. In the past, we were. Um I'm sure that you are fully aware, too, that we still have

011a vacancy in our HR department. And since that vacancy happened, I am not sure if, um, our one person who's holding down payroll and HR is continuing to do that. I'm not I'm just not sure. >> Any other questions of the motion on the floor? Danny? >> I just have a question. So, with um the resignations here, one of them um being a foreign language, do we have Is that now going to be taken out of the curriculum, or is there um a substitute for that? >> No, it's not taken out. The The position is posted on week end. >> Can I just interrupt here? I just want to let you know I'm on um through Google Meets. This is Angie. >> Okay, Angie. Uh thank you for coming in. The record will reflect that

012you joined the meeting at 7:17. 7:17. Are there any other questions of the motion on the floor? Okay. Then the voting device is before you. And the vote is now open. Angie, were you involved with the discussion enough to vote on the consent agenda? >> Yes. >> So, what is your vote? And uh Nathan will put it up on the screen for you. >> Yes. >> Sorry about that. Would anyone like to change their vote? And the votes closed. And the motion carries. Okay, moving on to item number three, administration reports. I will turn this over to our district administrator, Mrs. Oginsky. >> Thank you. So, first we have the director of business services, the monthly budget update. The report is attached and Mrs. Fosbinder is present remotely if anyone has questions. >> Kelly, this

013is Mike. I have a question. In your report, it says the budget is currently tracking as expected, is not projecting a deficit at this time. I guess I'm curious how that works with everything that's going on with the aquatic center. >> Yep, that's correct. And as you are on the board, um as you continue, we haven't had a committee meeting um in which we go through the details of these, but it's always 10 and 27 funds. It's not discussing fund 80. >> Shouldn't we be looking at all of the district finances, though? >> So, at the committee level, we review fund fund 10 and fund 27 every single month. And moving forward, we can include fund 80 if that is something that is decided. >> Kelly, that would be something that you can speak with

014your chairman, Danny, about going forward for those new committee meetings. >> Can we talk about fund 80 without currently having a fund 80 employee, like a liaison position? I know that sounds like a really silly question, but that's been one of the significant barriers with the aquatic center situation. Maybe that's something we could follow up on or check in. I don't disagree with including that in the committee. But that has been a uh I mean, it's been one of two significant barriers with the aquatic center. So, just to make sure we're covering our bases with that. >> Kelly, I'll let you >> I think that's something we would also need to consult with Davis on. I think you're I agree with you, Jill. >> Danny. >> Um so, when I look at the attachment for

015the monthly budget updates, is there a way that we can actually get a monthly balance sheet P&L from fiscal year-to-date through the last closed month, so that that way we can actually see numbers? Um I mean, everything sounds very positive on this informational sheet, but I really would like to see some sort of numbers, so that we can actually make decisions and vote. >> So, Danny, those are things that we do at the committee level. Since there hasn't been a committee with this new board, that's something that you haven't experienced yet. But yes, we go through numbers with the budget each month at the finance committee. >> Thank you. >> You'll see that at your next committee meeting. Any other discussion or questions? Okay, Mrs. Oginsky. >> Moving on to item B, Director of People

016Services and Special Education. Miss Wagner is not present with us, but her report is attached. Are there any questions? Okay, item C, Director of buildings and grounds, Mr. Leiderman is present if there are any questions. >> I have a question, Jake. Have there been any uh movement on the facilities issues at the aquatic center? Any of those maintenance issues? Nice shirt, by the way. >> Thank you. Um no, after board directive that we are not uh operate the pool at all, I have been non-existent at that facility at all, so there's nothing that I'm aware of for update. Um I know that the YMCA is operating it in the meantime, so I don't know what work they've done or not done. I assume it's pretty minimal kind of a holding pattern, if you will. Um

017if something broke, I'm sure that they make sure we could still open the doors, but um prior to that, uh actually, I I want to correct one thing on that. There was a door operator that was in question for quite some time, and right at the same time that the board had made that directive, Davis um advised me to go ahead and get that operator finished. So, that that was completed, but other than that, there's been nothing else that I'm aware of. >> Thank you. I just for transparency, to be very clear about that, the directive was specific to a fund 80 dollars need personnel needs to be funded through fund 80, so it wasn't a directive to not have any involvement from the district with the pool. We simply do not have a fund

01880 employee, so that is the personnel barrier. >> Deonna, let the record reflect that Kristen came in at 7:24. >> Are there any other questions for Mr. Lindeman? Danny? >> Jake, are we able to ask how is the um construction going on the new elementary school? Is there any updates we can give the community or board? >> Yeah, I mean, I could talk for hours, honestly. I mean, >> Just some keynotes. >> Yeah, I mean, we're uh probably about 50% of the building's dried in, meaning the roof is on, watertight, if you will. Um still some exterior work that has to be done. Uh but the other 50% is going to be dried in in the next approximately 3 weeks here. They're really pushing hard to get those those structures completed. Um that's kind of

019a big milestone in construction is when you can say that your your dried in and the roof is sealed. Um Uh I'm trying to think of big milestones. Um you know, a lot of the mechanical stuff is set in place um in the main mechanical room. The secondary mechanical room that's in the the upper level of that academic area, that's kind of still waiting to be dried in, right? Um we don't want to put too much equipment in place there other than like the the main air handlers cuz they still have to protect them until they're dried in, so. Mechanically, it's going well. Excavation is going really good. They got the driveway cut in out to 5th Ave now. Um they're really kind of starting to shape up what the site will look like. If

020you drive by, you can see where the driveways are and the the playground areas. Um it's kind of starting to take shape where people could notice that by driving through. So, that's exciting, too. Um I don't know how long you want me to talk on it. I mean, committee, we can really go >> Yeah. >> more in depth, but >> Board members, I do want to uh bring everybody to the awareness that if you would like to take a tour of the building, you can do so by contacting Jake and setting that up a date and time. You know, give him a couple days notice so he can make sure that safety is a big issue. So, you can let him know and he can set something up for you to go and tour that.

021Okay? How's the improvements at the high school coming along? >> Uh good, messy. >> Messy? >> It's pretty well tore apart right now. They got most of the air handlers set back in place in the mechanical rooms. Um that that was kind of the biggest first milestone that we wanted to hit is get everything demoed and then get the new units set in place. So, they still have a few smaller ones that they're aligning and getting getting adjustments to. Um but overall, they're well on their way getting them in place. Um fire alarm replacement, they're started a lot of the demos done. They're starting to reinstall now. So, that's great. Um excavating outside if anyone drives by there, you can see that that site's pretty well unrecognizable right now. It's pretty pretty tore up. A

022lot of stuff getting done. Krieger and Stein Fest is doing a great job. I think they got three crews on there right now, Shane said, and uh they're they're pushing hard. So, um we're a little too early to know for sure exactly where we're going to land for completion date. Our our target is August 17th to be completed on that entire site with all the work. Um I know that that's aggressive, but um you know, that's kind of set by when we start getting staff occupying the building again. Um if we don't have enough time, you know, we we don't get uh blessings by Mother Nature to to allow us to keep working on it, we do have plans in place, you know, to make sure that we prioritize the certain areas to get that

023building reopened. No problem. We won't have any any issues like that that we can see at this point. So, um a lot going on though. It's uh very exciting. A lot of work that needed to be done. Um about $9 million at the high school of work that getting done. Um and the majority of that will be done this this summer. So, that's uh you know, when you break it down by week, it's close to a million dollars a week. So, it's exciting. >> A lot of work in a short amount of time. >> Yep. >> Jill A lot of work that have been that's been on our capital improvement plan for years that we have not been able to touch. So, it's a big milestone. >> Yeah, and if you if you kind of

024look back at the where we were pre-referendum discussions with budgeting and everything, you know, that high school wasn't even um guaranteed to be done. It was a kind of the wish list. If we got favorable pricing, we would we would be able to flow into that what I call the 61 category that we we talked about a lot pre-referendum. So, to be able to get those items done um with no more cost to the taxpayers is huge. >> Mike, with the rest of the referendum work, is it correct to state that middle school work is going to happen next year at a later date along with the central office construction? I've been getting a lot of questions, and I guess I don't know the answer to that. So, if you could share that out for

025the community as to what's happening. >> So, both of those uh project we did bid out. Um I don't think that we got favorable pricing for a number of reasons. Um sometimes we just didn't get a lot of a lot of interest due to the backlog that other companies have had, um you know, we're not you know, in a construction hub like, you know, the big cities are. So, sometimes you just kind of fall into to that weird situation where you need a big contractor to do these jobs. Um it's too big for our locals and, you know, it's kind of not the low-hanging fruit for them. You know, if the market has a lot of work, um sometimes they pass on jobs that that aren't the perfect fit. And I certainly understand that. But

026at the same time, to be responsible with tax dollars, um Ms. Logentcher and I looked at at the numbers that came in and just felt like it was not in line with our budget, not realistic numbers. Um had the discussion with Blue Design, um got their take on it. We think that we can make uh make a few adjustments to scope and allow more time for them to prepare, um give them another another year. Every time you move stuff down the road, you do have some inflation cost, which is always, you know, part of the equation that you try to balance. Um but the numbers that we got were just we we felt very uh outside the budget and not not a good spend. So, we're going to we're going to rebid those and I

027expect those numbers to come in better. As far as exactly when that work will be complete, you never know until you get the final bids. Contractors will put, you know, uh completion dates or timelines or things like that within their bid documents. So, you never know for sure, but the target is for next summer, yes. Um and obviously, you know, with the central office, again, that's that's going to be the the last piece of the puzzle, right? Like we talked about the whole time. So, more to come on that. >> Danny? >> And this might be a combined question for you and Kelly, but is there a deadline to use the funds for the middle school and central office, or do we have to get the work done within a certain amount of time, or

028can we keep carrying that money over until we get appropriate bids? >> I would defer to Kelly. >> Okay. >> There is deadlines, but I just wanted to be cognizant of staying on the agenda. I'm not sure if we are floating into topics that are not necessarily on this agenda piece. So, I would defer to the board president on that, or this is Oginsky, but I don't want to start adding into things that might not actually be on the agenda. >> Kelly, I just uh motioned to Danny to put that on his agenda for the committee meeting coming up uh in a couple of weeks. That's something that you can bring light uh to where those are with the referendum dollars. All right, any other questions for Jake? >> I just have one last comment,

029Danny. I just want to make sure that uh the community understands uh the appreciation that I have, and I think all the the contractors have for um dealing with some of the inconveniences. You know, we kind of take for granted um you know, how how important our schools are to our community. Um and you know, kind of taking that piece out of the puzzle for even a 3-month window. Um I'm sure ends in hardships that we don't even recognize. Um certainly there are some that we have recognized and heard of, and um you know, I I apologize for any inconveniences, but really just thank the community for their support, not only in passing the referendum, but also their tolerance while this project gets completed. And once once we get this work done, it's going to

030be uh a huge asset um to the community, students, staff, uh for you know, hopefully another 30-some years before we have to look at this type of remodeling again. So, thank you to the community for their initial support and ongoing support. >> Thank you, Jake. Okay, Mrs. Oginsky, we'll move on to the next. >> Okay, item D, director of technology report is posted and Mrs. Musheck is available if anyone has questions. Okay, item E, director of curriculum and instruction report, Mrs. Stutzriem is available by um remote and her report is attached if anyone has questions. Okay, item F, superintendent report. Um just a quick overview, we had our end of the year celebration and retiree recognition where we had lots of great things to celebrate for the accomplishments of the year. We did this as

031an entire district, the um the day that the students were present a half a day, the remainder of that day was to celebrate with staff and our retirees at the Baum Theater. We also had a meeting with Sue um to review the bids submitted for FF&E, which is furniture, fixtures, and equipment for um John H. Bradley Elementary and we awarded that bid to EBI and we've notified them and we're scheduling meetings to work out the draw schedules and whatnot with them. Um continued staffing meetings with Ms. Fausbender, Ms. Stutzriem, and Ms. Wagner to determine placements and openings. Um this also includes meeting with um Jay to update WeCan and follow up with the interview process during the vacancy in our HR position and to check in on accepted and declined offers. It's always um typically

032a daily occurrence. I think Danny Nicholson can also speak to that and many days it's multiple times a day of checking in to see where we are in the process. Um budget and draw schedule meetings with Ms. Fassbender, Mrs. Mashek, and Mr. Leidermann regarding budgets for referendum work at um John H. Bradley and the high school to make sure that everything is in alignment with pay schedules for work completed. Um I've submitted our annual calendar report and we've had a meeting with Mr. Jokes to determine who the coach for Leader in Me will be for Annigo and it's very exciting because we're actually getting a coach who has done some work in our district before with um through other consulting firms. So, we're very excited to welcome her back to our staff and our students

033and it's great to have someone that has some familiarity with our community and our district. And that's the end of my report. Any questions? Okay, I'll turn it back to you, Mr. Wyatt. >> Uh Mrs. Zinski, I want to go back to um the curriculum and instruction because as we were moving on, Randy was coming up to the microphone to ask a question and I want to let him be able to ask his question, Amy. >> just the overall growth. They talked about the improvement in the scores for the ACTs and there was certainly dramatic improvement for between 24 and 25 and 25 and 26. But going back a few more years to let us know if that's a trend or just whether 24 25 was an off year would be informational that we could

034follow trends rather than just a one-day period for future reports. >> Yes, I can bring future or the past like 5 6 years worth of ACT scores. Um I can bring that to the next committee. Um but one thing I do want to highlight and on behalf of the high school staff and students, these are their scores. I'm just the messenger um, to the board tonight regarding that and the celebration around that is there's one part to look at the composite score and there's another part to look at the students, the percentage of students who met proficiency. So, when you're looking through there's kind of two avenues that we look at our ACT and pre-ACT scores around. Um, so we do know that we need to keep gaining on our composite score. We did go

035up this year, but last year I believe we did go down. Um, and I can get that data for you, but this year we saw an incredible amount of growth of kids who went over that proficient line for each of those different subgroups like English, math, reading, science, etc. Um, so there's two points when we kind of go through our ACT training, we really are wanting our students to be over that proficiency line and have more students becoming percentage or having more students over that proficiency line with percentages. And also we want to look at that composite score. So, I can grab that data for you for next time, um, some historical around the ACT, but this year I will say we had more growth of percentage over that line of proficiency, which means our

036kids are moving in the right direction, especially our kids meeting three or four benchmarks. I think sometimes we focus a lot on the students who need interventions, the students who might need some extra support, but this is showing that our students who are proficient and maybe advanced are meeting three or four of those benchmarks and that's a huge jump that we haven't seen in the past with our with our data. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Jill, you'll add that to your agenda for your committee meeting coming up. Thank you. All right, moving on to item number four and Kristen, what we have done, we we amended, Mike made the motion to amend the agenda to bring item 4G up to the top. Actually, we were bringing that up to the very top before

037consent agenda, but we wanted you to be part of the discussion. And so, the board decided to put that as number one for board action. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, item number four, letter G, discussion and possible action on current pool finances and continued operation. Uh searching looking for a motion, please. >> Mr. Chair, I move to rescind the motion made on March 18th that said only fund 80 would be used for the operation and maintenance of the aquatic center. >> Okay. >> Um I don't mean to interrupt, Danny, but since we've moved this, I've got to get Davis on. If you all could just pause for just one quick second, please. >> Okay. We will take a 5-minute recess. All right. We will come back to order 7:43. And I will ask

038Jean to uh state her uh motion one more time. >> Okay. I move to rescind the motion adopted March 18th, 2026 that only fund 80 be used for the operation and maintenance of the aquatic center. >> Okay. So, the motion on the floor is to rescind the vote from March 18th. So, we need to And Jean, would you like to speak to your motion? >> Uh yeah. So, on March 18th, the board was really put in an awkward position. Um the information was sort of sprung on them uh that night, and I think that they felt really like they were in a the and and didn't have any choice in the matter. Um so I I think we do have a choice. I think we have a long record of clean audits, 22 whatever, 20

039plus years of clean audits. Uh we've never gotten any kind of a notice or letter from DPI telling us to stop spending fund [music] 10 dollars on the aquatic center. I just don't see the evidence of having to make this sudden change in what we've been doing for so long. And so I wanted to bring the opportunity back to the board now that we've all had time to you know, let the sort of these things and ramifications sink in. I think we have plenty of wiggle room. I think we can work with DPI. I think we can move forward and find a solution that works for the school and the community. >> Okay, Davis, would you opine on this, please? >> So fund 10 can be used for the operations of the pool so long

040as the operations are not part of the community program. So you can as was explained back in March, you can use fund 10 for things related to the education of your students, such as renting out the facility from your fund 80. You cannot use fund 10 to carry out a community program or service, which would be a fund 80 expenditure. If you do that you will receive a dollar-for-dollar reduction in your budget. It is an ineligible expense. So, if you do this, you are setting yourselves up for serious financial consequences and also knowingly doing so. The reason this wasn't brought to the board's attention earlier is because my understanding is the board wasn't aware that it was going on. We had discussions in March regarding whether Danny, as the board president, had been aware of

041who he had appointed, if anybody, to the {quote} aquatic center board, and I recall him telling me he did not know of anybody. We generally didn't know that the aquatic center board operated, and when I say we, I mean myself and the board members, um I know that administration was at some of the meetings, but with again, my understanding is administration was was new to the district, was trying to understand all of the ongoings, and this issue of the five staff didn't come up, I believe, until October 25th, when discussions started regard critical maintenance and how funds could be utilized to pay for the the critical maintenance. That's when the discussions started to shift to how has this been done in the past? And can it continue? And the answer was legally no, it cannot

042continue that way. So, I understand that there may be clean audits. Um I have not seen those records. I haven't seen what was submitted to DPI. I haven't seen logs. Um The motion back in March was to only use funds appropriately. I don't understand why there would be an objection to that motion. Um If fund 10 were to be used to fund the community program or service, that would be highly [snorts] ill-advised. >> So, can we do something which we know is potentially illegal? I mean, is that a possibility? I don't I don't understand what we're being asked to vote on. >> Randy, is that a question for me or Jean? >> Either or both. >> I I can talk. So, Davis, I mean, I I hear what you're saying and and I'm not surprised

043you're saying it because this is very much what you said in March. Um, your last line there made it sound like I wanted to spend fund 10 on community services and I don't. The aquatic center is used for the community and for the school. So, I want to use that mix of fund 10 and fund 80 just as we've done in the past and as my understanding, schools across the state do with their community facilities. I mean, I think that there is far more wiggle room than what you are presenting. >> I haven't found any wiggle room on DPI's website to say that there's any flexibility of using fund 10. I I know that you like to do research. Did you find something that states otherwise? >> I did not look on the website because

044I keep thinking if there was a letter from DPI telling us to stop using fund for funding the aquatic center, then we would have evidence. I don't see the evidence. I I hear Davis's opinion. I value his opinion. But, I simply don't I don't see the evidence that we have to only use fund 80 for the aquatic center. >> So again, Jean, you can use fund 10 for eligible expenses, such as renting the space for your students' use. Which has been happening. You cannot use fund 10 to pay for things like the YMCA or for um staff to supervise the community swim times. Those would be ineligible expenses. >> Aren't those >> So that mix that you're talking about is a curve. But and as district administration just went through with its auditor so another

045third party who has no interest in this has determined that the expenses spent this year as properly coded resulted in a deficit. >> Yeah, who's determining that? >> properly coded, Davis. Who's determining that? >> The auditor who >> The auditor with information provided to them by whom? >> The district's records. >> I would like to just chime in here. So with that exchange rate there, so with the district records, so if we our records were in able to produce accurate financials last year, how can we say that our financials and our inputs on the accounting side are accurate? >> I think a further question would be has the record keeping accurately been maintained since the inception of the pool, more specifically operational items for pool use. Looking at that longevity component. >> And I do

046not know. >> So, Danny, I'm going to give you an example. In the past, there was not staff coded to fund 80 that were maintaining the pool maintenance. They were providing maintenance to the pool and their salary was not coded to fund 80. That is an example of it being coded to fund 10 when it needed to be coded to fund 80. So, when you see that there wasn't as much of a deficit in the past since the inception of the pool, it's because those types of expenses were not being coded to fund 80. They were being coded to fund 10, so that there wouldn't be a deficit or a less of a deficit. >> So, have we gone farther back than the last year to see how much improper coding has taken place in

047house? >> I wasn't in the district since the inception of the pool or in a financial role in which I would be able to know those answers. So, right now what we are doing is working with DPI. We are working with our auditors and we are working with legal counsel to ensure that all of the expenditures that the pool encounters are coded correctly to fund 80. >> So, now I believe you it did state that you had been in the district for little over 2 years. So, and I believe back in one of um March or April Davis did um reference you as the liaison between the pool and the school. So, if we had bi-monthly meetings at the school board or the pool board and you were the liaison, wouldn't we have known something

048had been going on for the last 2 years? How are we How can we say that our accounting and everything what you just said, you were not in the district, but you have been in the district for the last 2 years. And you were the liaison as outlined by Davis in the previous meetings. >> My role with the aquatic center was to let them know where their budget stood. So, the very first year in which I was here, the budget was already created, the processes were already happening with how things were being coded. >> I think >> So, >> Kelly, not to interrupt, but what really opened our eyes to this was when we asked DPI if we could use 46 for the for the maintenance, correct? For capital improvement, that's when that's when this

049all came to light. >> Yes, and the pool, the aquatic center board has been reported since I've come to the district that they've been operating in a deficit, and so those things have been reported to the board. It's just now that we are identifying all of the expenditures that haven't been coded, the the deficit is much larger, and the funds have been used at a as a at a much quicker rate. >> So, have we been operating fund 80 in a deficit for years, and it's just now being brought to our attention? Is that what I'm getting from that statement? I thought we couldn't let fund 80 go to negative. But, if it's been operating at a deficit for years, how has that not been caught? >> So, fund 80 operated a deficit in its

050first year back in 2004, if I recall correctly. And then the levy was instituted. And then that levy continued to increase to cover the deficit. I think it steadily increased for like 5 to 6 years. And then I'm not sure. Um there certainly at times were some money set aside within fund 80 because at least at the beginning of this year, there was a fund balance of 150,000. Is that correct, Kelly? >> Yes. >> So, we knew going in, I guess, deductive reasoning says, if you had a $150,000 fund balance, you weren't at a deficit at the beginning of the year, but now you are. >> Sure, so on the report that I am looking at, so did we You said 150, but the fund balance starting was $123,764.28. >> There's some inaccuracies on that.

051>> I mean I Yeah, I do have I mean there are some questions I have about that because the last year doesn't when you take the the starting fund balance for the 24-25 and then you add the total revenues and other financial sources, that does come out when you subtract the expenses um to what that year was, but then last year going into this year, there are discrepancies back and forth on that. So, I don't I sitting here looking at this, I don't understand how with discrepancies like that, we can't have some sort of temporary resolution where we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis. We provide budgets to them, they provide budgets to us, we meet in the middle, and we can ask for funds along the way. Is that an option? Because

052I think I think if we're going to ask the foundation for large sums of money, we have to be able to provide good, accurate budgets or be willing to have conversations on the inaccuracies of our budget. >> So, I'm just going to stop there. There aren't inaccuracies on the budget. Well, when you have a budget right now, your fiscal year doesn't end until June 30th. That means all of your utilities that are operating your pool for this is just one example, goes through June 30th. You aren't going to get that bill until July. That means this budget is always living and breathing until July or August when you're getting all of your final bills, all of your final expenditures, all of your final revenues, and those are done and you close out the books. So,

053right now, as the budget stands as it is, that's why there are different numbers each time you ask. And that is very typical of a budget throughout the year. It is always living and breathing until the books get closed out and they get finalized through your audit. So, right now, you're operating at a deficit and even if you get all of your revenues, you will still be operating at a deficit. And the pool, since I've been here, has been operating at a deficit. Now, you did have a fund balance that for lack of a better example, is much like a savings account, but your operational expenses with how much revenue and how much expenditures you have each year is operating at a deficit. Now, that is why it still was able to stay open according

054to DPI because you did have a fund balance. That fund balance is now depleted because all of the accurate expenditures are being allocated to the correct funds. >> So, Kelly, this is Jean. I I just have a a question about clarification cuz you're using the word budget in a way that uh is unfamiliar to me. To me, a budget is something that gets set at the beginning of the year and it's in stone and it does not change month to month, day to day, whatever. Your expenditures may, but to me, that's what a budget is. And now, you're using the word budget as if it's a moving, flowing thing. A budget is set by the board and can only be amended by the board. It's Am I misunderstanding the word budget? >> I don't think

055you are, Jean. Uh that's how I also interpret it. >> Okay, so I can't predict what 12 months of electric bills are going to be for the pool. So what you do when you set a budget number is you look at the history of what your electric have been and you apply an increase because generally your electric bills increase. And so your budget number is your best estimate of what you believe that based on all the facts that you have what your electric bills are going to be. Much like your home, you don't know exactly what your electric bills are going to be. Or your heat. Could be a colder winter, could be a warmer winter. You're setting yourself your budget up based on what the facts are that you have at the time. So

056when you set your budget numbers, that's what those are. As your expenditures and your invoices and your bills come in, much like there might be a tile that breaks randomly because of a somebody dropped something or something like that that has to be fixed. You're not going to be able to predict that that's going to happen when you set your budget in October that you might have a tile break in March. So those are the types of examples that happen when you set a budget and then you have your actual invoices come in and your actual revenues come in. You can't predict if 12 or 15 people are going to buy an annual membership or they're going to buy a monthly or maybe they're not going to buy any at all. So those aren't things

057that you can predict. You have to set your budget on what all the facts that you absolutely have and then it's your best estimate going from there. >> Yep, I agree with all of that. I'm just concerned now that this that the columns in the budget sheet, which is a different agenda item that does say budget at the top. Now I don't know if they really mean budget or if they mean you know, expenditures or adjusteds or something else. >> So that's a great question, Jean. If you look at the handout that I gave you all last uh meeting you'll see at the top fiscal year to date activity. So look at the 25-26 fiscal year to date activity. That isn't the budget of what we set or we thought the best estimate was. That's

058what your actual numbers are to that date, which that date was on June 15th. So if I was to have a column with the word budget on it, then you would see what we believed the best numbers were going to be as compared to the fiscal year to date activity. But we just put the actual bills so that you would have an actual sense of what the budget or what the actual numbers are in the budget as of that date. >> While I believe all this information is pertinent pertinent to us to make a decision, I don't believe it's directly related to the motion on the floor. Um and if we're going to look at that, I think yes, it's important to know that we did have clean audits all along. But I don't know

059now that you have we have been in contact with DPI and we're waving our flags and saying, "Hey, we're doing this wrong." Um things might audits might come out a little bit differently. When you say to the police officer, "Hey, I was speeding back there." You know, they might look at your car a little bit differently next time. Um and as far as I'm aware, the laws have not changed. Uh we can still the motion doesn't or the initial motion did not say we couldn't use fund 10 at all. It just needed to be used legally. So, I'm not sure while while all this information is relevant to us making an un-decision, I don't know that it's pertinent to the motion on the floor. >> The motion that was adopted March 18th said that only

060fund 80 would be used for the operation and maintenance of the aquatic center. >> The motion on March the 18th says to approve funding at the direction of legal counsel, only fund 80 would be used for operation and maintenance of the aquatic center, and all other funds be utilized in a matter consistent with the law. Direct administration to work with legal counsel to develop a plan of action for the continued operation and maintenance of the aquatic center. That's the motion that was there. So, I agree with what Kristen has brought out that uh it does direct us to use fund 80 for the aquatic center, but it does not limit uh fund 10 to be used as long as fund 10 is being used uh in consistent with the law. So, for my standpoint point,

061I will uh vote no on this rescension because the motion in uh March the 18th gives the administration and the board the latitude uh to spend fund 10 money as consistent with the law. Any other discussion of the motion on the floor, which is to rescind uh the motion from May the 18th? >> March. I'm sorry. Thank you, Jean. March the 18th. All right, hearing no other discussion later we're ready for a vote. Okay. >> Can you just clarify what a yes vote means and no vote means? >> A yes vote means that you want to rescind the motion for March the 18th. A no vote means that you do not want to rescind the motion for March the 18th. Is everybody ready? The voting device is now open. Okay, would anyone like to change

062their vote? The vote is now closed. We have three yes and five no's. That motion fails. I'm sorry, going back to our agenda. Um Okay. Uh discussion and possible action on current pool finances and continued operations. I will be looking for a motion. I'll make the motion that we move to adopt the resolution on continued operations of the Clara R. McKenna Aquatic Center as presented. And to speak to to motion is all of you have received the handout um from Davis that was prepared. It gives the um opportunity for the Aquatic Center to remain open. And what I'd like to do is ask our board clerk to read the resolution on the continued operations of the Clara R. McKenna Aquatic Center. Mike, do you have that in front of you? >> I'm looking at it.

063We have 34 pages here, so I'm looking for it. >> it's on page 32, but it might be It may have the May or the June 15th date. And I have one here for the 22nd date. While our board clerk is preparing to read the resolution, I do want the record to reflect that at 7:54 uh Deonna let let the record reflect that Angie uh joined us in person. >> I took record of it. Thank you. >> Danny, just yes um I just would like to let you know um Randy, do you have that attachment? On BoardDocs? >> Okay. Yes, okay. Resolution continued continued operation of Clara McKenna Aquatic Center. >> Mhm. >> Somebody's going to read it and I'm going to follow it. >> Melissa does not have that. >> Mhm. Is she logged

064in the BoardDocs? >> No. Uh yeah, she's she's looking at the I don't know if you have this. I got it here. >> Resolution on continued operations of the Clara R. McKenna Aquatic Center. Mike, can you hold just 1 second, please? Thank you, Mike. Whereas the district operates the Clara R. McKenna McKenna Aquatic Center, the pool, as a community program under fund 80, and whereas the pool has at least for the 25-26 school year operated at a deficit, and whereas the pool board desires to advise the administration and community of its decision with respect to the continued operations of the pool. Now, therefore, be it resolved by the school board of the district as follows. For the pool to remain open under the school board approved community program fund 80, the following directives are issued

065to administration, and the following must occur. Administration is directed to execute the enclosed contract with the Woodson YMCA, outsourcing the pool's general operations to the Woodson YMCA, and 1B, the district must receive revenue by way of donations or other revenue streams in the amount of $75,000 by June 30th, 2026, so fund 80 does not operate at a deficit for the 25-26 school year. And 1C, the district must receive revenue by the way of donations or other revenue streams in the amount of $250,000 by by July 1st, 2026. So, fund 80 may continue to operate in a cash flow positive manner in the 26-27 school year. And 1D, the district shall further consider imposing a previous previously imposed $300,000 tax levy. Number two, if items 1B through 1C do not occur on or before the dates

066indicated, the pool shall cease further operations until further notice, and administration shall notify the Woodson YMCA that the pool's operational fund is depleted and the contract terminated. Three, the district will receive any and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by a non-profit and for-profit entities alike. Adopted and approved this 22nd day of June, 2026. >> Thank you, Mike, for reading all of that. So, the motion on the floor is to approve that document of the resolution on continued operations of the Claire R. McKenna Aquatic Center. We'll direct all of our discussion toward that motion. >> I move to amend the motion. >> Okay. Will the member please state the amendment? >> Removing number three, the district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by non-profit and for-profit

067entities alike. >> Okay, we have an amendment on the floor in the resolution to strike number three. The district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by nonprofit and for-profit entities alike. Jean, would you like to speak to your amendment? >> No, thank you. >> Okay, we need to direct all of our attention to the amendment that's on the floor and that is just to strike line number three in the resolution. Are there any questions or discussion of the amendment? Randy? >> No. >> Uh Kristen? >> I First of all, it just says that we would receive and consider offers, not accept any offer. Um all along when we've discussed the pool, we've talked about how great it is for our community and for um increasing economic development, increasing employee

068pools. And to me, this is really a community issue more than it is a school issue. So, I would like to give the opportunity to the county or the city to step in. Um and if they were to purchase the pool, I think that's something that we need to seriously consider um as it is more, like I said, a community issue versus a school issue. Um and I would like to know if they are willing to put some to skin in the game and maybe help out with this situation. So, I think that that's something that we should keep on the floor um and for that reason, I don't think we should take the amendment. >> I'd like to further speak. Um I disagree with that comment. The county and and city have not supported

069the board. I think it's highly unlikely either of them are going to step forward and purchase this building. I think that's almost an impossibility. >> Any other questions or discussion of the amendment that's on the floor? >> I also do not support the amendment simply because it be it imposes limitations on us. I know it's been brought up several times with the Y M C A purchase of the pool. I do believe the Y M C A shared in a um task force meeting a while back that pools are subsidized, so they had no interest because uh we simply have a pool, we don't have other activities or programming that goes along with it. But the Y M C A has maintained a great working relationship and continues to operate our pool. Perhaps that's something

070that they may want to consider and they have first hand knowledge and experience of operating our pool, so that would take that potential out. I also agree with Kristen in the sense that the city and the county um have been on the task force. This discussion has never centered on the importance of academic achievement and student outcomes. It has focused on the importance to the community and this board, regardless of current members or previous members, have all stated the importance of the pool for our community. Therefore, to continue that discussion um and even the discussion further, but in terms of skin in the game to offer and maintain a um What word I was? amenity to our community that amenity ideally is is a collaborative combined effort from taxpayers, right? So, at the end of

071the day it's taxpayer moneys. Let's all have skin in the game to promote and maintain a community gem that we have in place. So, I'm not in favor of the the amendment because I don't want to set up limitations for ourselves. Also, the foundation has shared a a lot and they have a lot of knowledge. Um quite honestly, I think the foundation or members of would be excellent at running the aquatic center. That would also remove that potential should there be interest there. >> Okay. Any other questions, Angie? >> I just I just want to say that um if a private entity or a nonprofit um were to purchase this, it they would be able to operate it like a true business and not be have to deal with all the red tape of being

072tied to the school district. So, I I would vote that we against this because I don't want to I want to keep our as many possibilities open as we can to keep this open. So, I think right now I don't I don't see people lining up, but in the in the case that somebody does come forward or group does come forward, I think it would be nice just to have it in there just just for that reason. >> I'll hold you, Danny, cuz I saw Melissa go into her mic. Melissa? >> I just have a clarifying question. If number three is removed and we don't entertain offers at the moment, that's something that we can take action on in the future, correct? >> Potentially, yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Danny. >> Um I I

073don't think we need number three there. I think that there are really reputable people in this community who have come forward um and put forth that there are funds there that they are willing to provide the district as long as we are open and willing to collaborate with them in a sense of having conversations about the funding, about the budget, and what we need. Um so, I I I think there's a need for number three if we just start coming together and work with this foundation and people in the community. >> What if the foundation wants to purchase it though? Like I mean they've laid out expectations. >> I think they would have let us know. >> But in what business plan does it make sense that you are going to put put forth all

074of the money, we are going to pay for this business and we also want to know all the decisions and be part of all the decisions making, but also we don't want to own it. Does that not raise a red flag to anyone else? We're going to give you all the money. We want to know all your decisions and be part of all your decisions, but we don't want to own it. To me that would mean that there's something wrong with the business. Are they I mean, the foundation is willing to fund it now and Mr. Costa's been more than helpful. But what if that changes tomorrow? What if that changes in a year? Now we're back in the same place that we are right now. Or what if those donors who are giving money

075to the foundation stop giving to the money to the foundation and now the foundation doesn't have the money to give to us? Then we're in the same spot that we're in now. Things can change very quickly and I just think we need to have the option out there for someone to run it as their business cuz as when it's your your business, you aren't going to let it fail. >> Danny >> And I do agree with you Kristen in some of what you're saying, but I also think with us being a public school and that being part of our community and our public school, I think we have an obligation to not let this fail as well. >> I agree >> Maybe >> I agree completely. None of us want the pool to close. I

076agree completely. That's why we're here trying to come up with a solution. But if the best solution is for someone else to run it and run it well, we have to have that solution on the table as well. Or option on the table. >> Are there any other questions or discussion of the amendment that's on the floor of removing item number three from the resolution? >> I'm I'm not going to vote in favor of it. I just want to stay really, clear and consistent cuz I just don't feel that it's it's believed in any capacity. I as just one board member, I'll just speak for myself right now. I have no interest in closing down our pool. None. At all. I have no interest in acting unlawfully. I will not. I have every belief that

077we can figure out a solution. And I also feel that leaving this in there allows for flexibility because the language simply says we'll receive and consider. It does not say we'll accept. So it it provides the opportunity. We are on a time crunch right now with with timelines within this resolution. Last week Monday, this was on the agenda, but we couldn't get to it. So, in the event that there is a time constraint, like I just don't want to limit ourselves to potentials. It's not an acceptance of an offer, it is simply allowing that to be available. For those reasons and previously shared feedback, I'm not in favor. I want the the pool to stay open nonetheless. >> Danny. >> I would just like to add that um given the short notice that previous board

078members had regarding the dire financial straits of this pool, and they were quick to act and able to put something like this together, I don't see why we would not be able to act like that again if we needed this option, but I think if I we put this option in, I think it's just basically giving us a get out of jail free card and not have to work together and have hard conversations with the foundation and community. >> Any other questions or discussion of the amendment on the floor? All right, hearing no questions or discussion of the amendment on the floor. >> Can you just clarify for all board members' sake? >> Yes, for a yes vote, you will be voting in favor of removing item number three from the resolution, which states the

079district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by nonprofit and for-profit entities alike. A yes vote will remove that from the resolution. A no vote will retain that in the resolution. Does everybody understand what yes and no mean? >> Thank you for that clarification. >> Thank you. All right, the voting device is now open. Would anyone like to change their vote? All right, the vote is now closed. We have five yes and four no. The amendment stands and we >> I have another amendment, please. >> Wait just 1 second. Sure. We are at the uh the main motion on the floor, which is to accept the resolution as read with uh striking uh number three under now therefore be it resolved. And now entertain your amendment, Randy. >> I move

080we eliminate item number 1C. District must receive revenue by way of donations or other revenue streams to the amount of $250,000 by July 1 so fund a it may continue to operate its cash flow positive manner in 2026 through school year. I think trying to ask the foundation to come up with this large amount of cash in such a short period of time is not at all realistic. I'm not sure that this board has shown good faith and that they really want to do these things. There's been an offer on the table for $120,000 to do repairs which has not been taken advantage of. So, I think we should just eliminate item number C. I don't think that's necessary to keep our pools open at this time. >> So, I'm just going to >> So,

081I'm going to I was going to refer or defer to you, Davis, because there's a reason for that being in there and Davis, you can opine on that. >> Yep, and I'm [clears throat] not here to tell people how to vote, but um so the reason you need that by July 1 is cuz if you don't have that money by July 1, then you won't have any operating funds. >> And then before we wouldn't >> You won't have You won't have any fund balance left. So, you need the 75,000 to get back to zero. So, now you've avoided the deficit for 25-26. But you haven't addressed how you're going to keep operating in 26-27 cuz you're not going to receive levy money if at all until December or January. And you are going to have

082sparse revenue streams. And as we've learned from 25-26, the revenue isn't enough to overcome the expenses. So you need some other supplemental revenue. So that's why that that one C is in there. >> Okay, I I saw >> And I guess I'll I'm just going to you know, this this concept of bad faith has been addressed with me before. Um the district has engaged in this conversation with the foundation since March. And in March it was represented that there were several hundred thousands Was it seven several hundreds of thousands of dollars available to help the district in its continued operations. >> And Davis has said >> As you said that, I looked at Mr. Cost cuz he's the one that made that presentation, and he is shaking his head in the affirmative that there are

083several thousands of dollars to help in this endeavor. >> So I understand there's a time crunch, and that is much unfortunate. But it's not uh this isn't a surprise. This conversation has been ongoing for months. >> Then in that case, you would have a week to negotiate to get some money placed in, maybe not $250,000. >> Okay, so I saw the board members pop up to the microphone. The first one was Jill. She came up. >> It just because our attorney is is sharing I just wanted to ask it was my understanding that um there was an attorney representing I don't want to say I there was a an attorney representing the interest of the foundation. Is that accurate? And if so, should that attorney be involved in this discussion? Is there a legal opinion

084>> is no longer working with the foundation. They were not because of anything that occurred. It was just a mutual parting of ways. >> Thank you. Okay. >> The next one I saw was >> And I I >> Go ahead, David. >> Sorry, gang. I I would just add the $250,000 is a conservative amount because keep in mind your deficit is understood to be at least $200,000 um and the budget prepared by administration estimates that the deficit for 2026-2027 will be over $300,000. Um if I recall correctly, I believe it's $375,000 roughly. Um so the 250 is to provide um a life raft until possibly October and give the the board some more time to make a more informed decision about how it's going to continue to fund the operations of pool whether that be

085through an increased tax levy through further discussions with the foundation through um maybe different programming that's going to increase revenue streams um the idea is that there be sufficient funds to carry the district for some period of time but not the full school year. So, I understand what you're saying Randy where you're but what I'm trying to make clear is the $250,000 number is just a um it's just to provide you a little more runway. It's not to get you all the way. >> I'd like to read from a letter that was sent to all board members on May 22nd, 2026 by Mr. Coss. In the third paragraph of this letter, it states three of the task force members are the directors of the foundation of the Unified School District of Antigo. They are attorney

086Paul Payant, Steve Bretl, and CPA and Tom Coss, CFP. The foundation had retained attorney Ryan Hayden to be sure it wasn't missing any legal or statutory requirements that apply in a case like this. Attorney Hayden concluded that the Antigo Unified School District staff and board didn't appear to be acting in good faith, but they hadn't violated any statutes or regulations. Thus, attorney Heiden's work with the foundation is done and he is no longer on retainer. Angie, you were up to speak next. >> Thanks. Davis, would I be correct in assuming that a yes vote to a to for this amendment to take away this the 250,000 funding requirement would in essence close the pool as of July 1st? Is that correct? >> Unless magically some very large amount of revenue comes in, then yes. >>

087Okay. >> It would be setting I understand everyone's concern and I understand that the pool everyone wants the pool to stay open. But if there is no revenue for 26-27 per law, it has to be closed. At least as you do as you operate it now. You can convert it to a fund 10 operation. Where it's only fund 10. And it's only for educational purposes. But as we've discovered, if you do that, your educational fund will operate at a deficit and you will need to terminate staff. >> Thank you. Um this discussion has has come up in the past and just so before anybody has the idea that oh, we should just move it to fund 10, we would be looking at eliminating 11 teachers. Basically all of our CT department gone. Our art department

088gone. Music gone. So, I just want everybody to know the weight of if you decide that you want to think that's a good idea. You can say we've acted in bad faith all you want, but we have tried and tried to look at this from every single angle that we could possibly come up with. Not only from us, but from the community, from the legal side, all that stuff. So, Oh. You know, this is a volunteer position. And we're trying to make the best decision for our students and for our community. And for you to sit up here and not knowing even a quarter of the details that all of us have have gone through and dug up and looked at and say that we are operating in bad faith is ridiculous and very unprofessional.

089So. And you can sit here and snicker all you want. You don't even know how to operate your laptop over here. So, >> Okay, hold hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Danny, I think you were Angie, are you finished? >> I am finished. >> Danny, you were next that I saw coming to the mic. I do want to just outline that we are all adults. We are all professionals. >> Are we? >> Angie, I'm speaking at the moment. So, we are all professionals. We are all here to have open hard conversations. We need to have these hard conversations and it's nothing personal. I'm not taking anything away from any of the previous board members that sat up here like you just said and did the dirt. You guys dug into it. You did your research.

090I'm not taking that away from any of you. >> Thank you for that. You are doing that. Yes. >> I am not taking that away from anybody, but we have to have these hard conversations. >> I agree. >> And I understand that there is some emotion coming from you with that and I get that. This is a sensitive topic. But, I do just want to remind us that we are having a very hard adult conversations right now. So, um So, what I would like to just comment on is that previously, so if we're saying we need the 250,000, if this term of budget is used for here, then that means that this budget should fluctuate. So, we can't say that our expenses are going to require $250,000 up front. Um I would like to ask

091what is the bare minimum that this pool needs every single month to stay open? Can we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis mid-month and say this is how much we need to keep the doors open this month, this is how much we need next month, instead of asking them to put up this much money for that? In addition, what is the minimum balance that we need to keep in fund 80 in order to keep it open for July 1st? Is it a dollar? Is it $10,000? Is it 50,000? What is the minimum requirement for that? >> So, Danny, well, those are great questions that need to be asked and great questions that we need to discuss. Now would not be the time to discuss those questions because we are trying to amend this

092motion to remove line C, and from what I understand of $250,000, this is actually just a carry over until we start receiving uh the tax money that comes in from December and comes in in in December and January of the tax levy of the potentially $300,000 or whatever this board sets in October. Then when that money comes in, uh this will be able to act as a cushion to help supplement for the remainder of the year. You have great points, great questions there to ask, and and I think um uh we could go down that road generally, but remember we are talking about just removing this. We're not talking about what this covers. >> And Danny, if if we circle back to that question um I I have a comment that but I I don't

093want to get you off track, so. >> How many times can we amend an amend amend the motion? >> Two. >> So, if I were to amend the motion, that's then we're done. Like I can't do it again. >> Well, we're already at two because we had one amendment from Jean, and now we're at two with Randy with this motion. >> Okay. >> Can I revise my amendment? >> State your revision and we'll see what what we can do. >> Can we change the $250,000 to $100,000? >> That would have to be a question that we would have to ask, is that enough to carry us until we get tax revenue coming in in December? I don't know. >> I don't think it will be enough to carry you to December, but it will be

094enough time to get further negotiations with the foundation is my point, I guess. >> I see that. So, if you want to revise that amendment to 100,000 that you want to leave letter C in there? >> That would be correct. >> And revise it to in the amount of 100,000 by July 1? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So, the revision from Randy is to change the 250 to 100,000 by July 1. Does all the members understand that's what we're speaking to now? Angie, you I saw your hand. >> Yes. It's under It's my understanding that the foundation as Tom Cross was nodding in the in the audience here that the the 250 was fine that they did have that. >> No, I don't think he was saying that. >> Okay, I misunderstood I misunderstood that.

095Okay, I apologize. I apologize. Tom. So, Okay, cuz like in the past they have talked that that coming up with this money was not an issue and that they could fund it. Um I mean there was meetings where he was throwing out a lot more dollars. I realize that obviously you don't just write checks like that overnight. But, um a couple phone calls. >> I understand. >> [clears throat] >> So, I guess that that was my point. >> Okay. >> I apologize for misunderstanding you. >> I take your hand signals very well, Tom. Whenever I see those, yeah. Any other discussion of the consideration of the amendment on the floor to leave item C, but change the amount to $100,000 by July 1. That is now what we're going to be voting upon. All right,

096so >> to be clear, by July 1, but then if there are no further donations and Fund 80 hits zero, this voting to approve the revision of the second amendment would effectively close down the pool cuz we would lose an additional 150,000 bucker, correct? >> Correct. >> I have a question. Um so, if if we lose that money and the fund goes negative, but aren't we already negative? So, I guess I just need clarification as to if we ended the year already negative, but we have money going into the positive going into the new year, if those funds dip below negative, aren't we just operating how we have been for the last however many years? >> Illegally. >> But like but we could meet with the foundation and they could bring more money forward, right?

097Like the pool wouldn't have to close. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> We're effectively choosing to their fiduciary duties would mean that we are effectively saying we would choose to illegally fund and operate the pool. Am I hearing that correctly? >> No, I'm not saying that. I'm I needed clarification on as to if will the pool like why does the pool close if that fund goes negative then versus now? Like why isn't it gone closed now? And if it does go negative or get closed, can't we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis to get more funds? >> Thank you for clarifying. >> Yeah. Yeah, no. >> And Danny to answer that question, there could be an interpretation of Wisconsin 121 that requires it to be closed right now. But if $75,000 can

098get into the account and the account can read zero for the year, an argument can be made that it didn't operate at deficit. But if you knowingly are going into a year with zero money, then yes, you you are operating at a You know you are going to be operating in a deficit. The other thing I'd note, which I wanted to address earlier, this is not fair to the YMCA to do a month-to-month. Will we have money? Will we have not? They have employees that they have dedicated to the operations. It is not fair to those individuals to have them guessing every 30 days if they're going to have a continued employment. And this is just not how businesses operate. >> Okay, is there any other questions, Melissa? >> yep, I have a clarifying question.

099So, if we change this from 250 to 100,000, so then we're at 175,000 with the June and July money. Aren't we just I mean, isn't it a way of looking at we're just giving the foundation more time to come up with it on the other 100, excuse me, $150,000. We're not saying we don't need it, but by lowering this amount, aren't we buying them some time so we can get more money in here with our >> I would answer that as yes. >> Okay, thank you. >> But keep in mind that 75,000 is actually covering the deficit. >> right. And then the 100 will be for next year. >> on until >> But we're still asking them to come up with $175,000 in a week, basically. So, if we drop that to 175, I think

100that would buy them another some more time to get that 150 is my thought. >> Angie? >> The 150 is going to take us to October, correct? November? >> I don't know cuz I'm not >> that. >> I don't know the day-to-day operation of what the cost is. >> Right. >> Yeah. So, >> We think >> Go ahead, David. >> I think generally that the pool operates at a um We think the pool generally operates at about a $750,000 of a of expenses. Right, Kelly? Am I accurate on that? And so And and we estimate that you're running at basically a half deficit. So, you're 370 in the red. So, now I mean the 150,000 you're going to burn through that in a matter of 3 months. I'm sorry, 100,000. You're going to Yeah, you're

101easily going to burn through that in 3 months. >> But I think before we got to that 3-month period, there would be conversations with the foundation >> that we would let put them on notice as to where we are with uh all of the uh oversight of the budget throughout that time. You know, we would not wait until we're down to $500 in the account before we say, "Oh, Mr. Cost, by the way uh you know, that would not be that would not be acting in good faith from us as a district or a board to the foundation. Does that make sense? Okay. Any other question Angie? You kind of have a questionable look. >> In regards to going back and and doing your monthly budgeting and you know, going back and forth with the

102the foundation. It's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, it's my understanding that the school district does not be doing that. We need that's why we needed the pool >> Fund 80 person. >> A Fund 80 person, thank you, to be that liaison between the school district because like um even the finance director's role should not be heavily involved in this. Um so to to do that monthly is kind of not feasible. At this point. >> I have a question. The extent of the operation and maintenance, according to the outsourcing agreement, is Woodson YMCA. No? Brian's shaking his head, no. >> No. The outsourcing agreement is going to continue by and large the relationship that the district has with the Y right now. Um the day-to-day maintenance that at one point was at the center

103of this discussion still needs to be addressed, which is um there is in the budget uh a $100,000 line item um for a Fund 80 specific employee to be hired. That could be a solution to the maintenance. There are other solutions that um potential solutions that I've discussed with administration with current staffing to take a part-time employee and dedicate some of their time to the pool to do day-to-day operations. The overarching um I guess oversight of the operations and decisions about what to do with funds um that could be delegated to a subcommittee as previously described. Um so there are ways that we can work uh and get creative with filling those staffing needs. But at the end of the day, which is what the resolution is to address, is you need money to continue

104at a bare minimum. >> I also had concerns about the personnel issue and it's a talking point I would like to discuss. I don't I was actually waiting till after this pool to see what the final motion is on the floor, but I I'm going to defer to you, Danny. Is this the time to talk about the personnel component of this? >> It would not be the time to talk about that. At this time, we can get the final motion and then that would be the time to bring up all of this, those issues. >> Danny >> Can I just I just got to ask you a question. Um so when Davis was talking about um the maintenance and stuff like that. So is there no way for us to break down how much of

105the maintenance is needed to keep that facility functioning in the interest of the educational sources, not the community side. So could we break down maintenance expense for wages and bill it from fund 10 if the maintenance that's being used is in the interest of the educational side of that pool. Now if that's 20%, that it 20% of that person's labor get billed to fund 10. Can they break that >> how you Yeah. Sorry, Danny. That's how you come up with the rent amount. >> Oh, so okay. So that's >> the district So your fund 10 your fund 10 rents the pool time for education. Time. Like uh swim lessons for PE or um adaptive PT um and that money from fund 10 goes to pay rent to fund 80 for that specific period of time.

106And that calculation you're doing is how you arrive at a proper rent payment. Does that make sense? >> Yep, that makes sense. So >> But then in the But then you still need to So that's just money going from one account to the other. But fund 80 still needs to be You need to have a dedicated employee because you can't just send Well, you you can say to your maintenance guy um okay, we're splitting your your job description. You're going to do 80% of fund 10 um activities going around our educational buildings and then 20% at the aquatic center and your 20% will be paid out of fund 80. But you have So then you have a full-time equivalent employee, but you have two part-time positions making that full-time equivalent. Understand? >> So So my

107question then though, when when school's not in session, isn't there maintenance that we could be doing with staff to keep it functioning as our educational source? Cuz it still is used for educational reasons. It's schools The kids are just not in session at the moment. >> Right. No, you can't do that. Okay, the amendment on the floor is to leave item C and change in the amount from $250,000 by July 1 to $100,000 by July 1. >> So, if if this passes and the the funding does run out, I'm hoping it doesn't. I'm hoping that the foundation can can come through. But, the but if the money does run out in 3 months, so in September, does that mean that we come back and we have this same discussion? Or like or do we just

108close it down? >> I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion. The pool has been in existence for 22 years. We can't just make these big decisions in a short periods of time. It's going to be an ongoing thing until we can get this sustainable. >> I think as Mike was talking, I was thinking about a response and that would be what Danny has been saying that we meet with the committee, which is the finance committee. It's his committee. >> Mhm. >> That would be discussed at his committee level on monthly basis as to where the funds are. And then at that time, we would also be in conversation with Mr. Coss and the foundation, and we would keep them in the loop as to where the funds are at on a monthly

109basis. >> Correct. But, if >> We're not going to wait until that 3 months. >> Okay. >> And then by not waiting for that 3-month period, Mr. Coss and the foundation is aware of what's going on, of what's needed by the school because it Please correct me, Mr. Coss, if I'm wrong, but I think in the very beginning you said, "We want to do what we can do to help the school to keep this this pool open." Uh maybe not those exact words. They were probably better eloquently given by you than what I just said, but those That was the gist of what I heard you say is that the foundation is here to help uh to supplement the school. Okay. Does that answer your question, Angie? >> Yes and no. So, it Again, I'm

110I'm hopeful, very hopeful that um the foundation will come through. If by chance something happens and they do not, then does it automatically close down or do we have to come back for more for this again? >> I I It's It's It's fluid. >> Okay. >> I mean I I I cannot give you a definite >> Okay. >> black or white answer. >> Okay. >> Uh and I don't know that anybody in here can really give Any of the board member want to say something there? I don't think we can. Uh I think looking at it on that month-to-month basis is what's is where we're at. And then I think by looking at this month-to-month basis, we're going to see a trend that's going to that's going to pop up, emerge out of what we're

111doing here, which is something we should have done 20 years ago, and we're just doing it now rather than 20 years earlier. Uh so, we're we're doing this now so we can get ahead uh before that tax levy money comes in December and January. >> This is going to be the responsibility of the finance committee of of the school board, not our business administrator. Correct? >> Correct. Yeah. >> To work with the foundation directly. >> We We can Yes, absolutely. We can let that be >> are not doing it is my point. >> Correct. Uh They will have to have some type of skin in the game as well. I mean, we're talking about everybody having skin in the game. Everybody's going to have to have that in this to make it work. >> will

112not be put into it. It'll be the committee's time. >> can't say their time won't be cuz they'll they'll have to put some of their time in there. >> Okay. >> I don't know what percentage of that time would be. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay, any other discussion? >> a problem, Danny. That I I mean, that is that is an operational problem because you don't have a fund 80 paid employee. That's how this has snowballed into such a problem. >> So, Davis, what in the event What happens in the event that we do hire a fund 80 employee 3 months from now, 5 months from now? Um What then? >> That's That would be If the pool is still open, great. But I would advocate that that I would advise that fund 80 employee be

113hired as soon as possible. >> Would that come >> Which is why it's in the proposed budget. >> I would also note that at the last task force meeting, the board gave a directive to come up with a person because it was a personnel issue. And to my knowledge, I'm going to I'm going to probably break the rules by asking if there's anybody who has brought forth a person that we're not aware of or if there's any board members that are aware of a person because of the personnel fund 80 issue. Is there anybody in this room that is aware of that directive being successfully fulfilled? >> Yeah, that was supposed to be fulfilled. >> honest question. >> By the foundation or the pool fund. >> making sure that there's nobody that was like that

114was directive given, correct? >> Mhm. That there's a personnel issue that Mr. Costa has very clearly laid out his magic and it's exceptionally appreciated. It really came down to The money's a problem, right? But you have somebody that's well versed and knowledgeable to be able to address the financial component with time. I understand that. What was still the secondary yet primary barrier is a personnel issue. So we still have not resolved a fund 80 personnel. So I'm just making sure that that is still something that we're pretending is not a direct imminent need. We don't have somebody identified, correct? >> To my knowledge, nobody is identified. >> When you say no one's been identified, what do you mean? Like a position? Like a type of position? >> Nobody has come forward to apply for the

115position. >> Right. Bring a person >> And there's in any of those people's defense, no position's been posted. >> It has not been posted. >> Because there's there's no money to fund that position. >> Right, so it goes hand in hand. There's Correct. That's the thing. There is no money currently. There's also no position. So one without I mean that's how we keep ping-ponging on the discussions, right? Including in the these aren't the amendments even tonight. So I guess my question is you This is a personal question that I was trying to hold off on part of it at least, but how do we effectively go month-to-month through committee meetings without having a liaison funded through fund 80? So if we reduce to 100,000, that's my question. I I very much agree and love the

116the band-aid to go month-to-month by reducing to make it more feasible to acquire donations. Yet, at the end of the day, can we do that without having a fund 80 liaison to help facilitate, communicate, pay bills, identify needs. Can we do that? And that's a question for the finance committee. For you, Danny. For Davis. Like, is this a feasible band-aid? >> I would say other districts do this, and I would think that there's some way that our finance director can be that liaison. If it requires something with her job description to be changed, um, there's districts all over the state that do this. Their finance office, finance director, pays all the bills through the their districts. Um, I've talked to some of these people. So, there there is a way. We have to figure out

117the way >> Right. >> to move forward. >> So, it's a separate contract. I've also done the research and had the conversations, right? Separate contract that can't can't those contracts aren't written up, so we don't have that in place. Can we logically, reasonably have that in place by July to to get it to committee? I've had the discussion and presented a solution to some members of the foundation and our district as well of that fund 80 position. Tying to our strategic plan that should drive our decision-making for community engagement {slash} aquatic center director because it's been argued that that's unnecessarily a full-time position for aquatics, but that bridges that gap. Um, going back to the city and the county, it would be wonderful if maybe that could be a a split position between the city,

118county, or district because again, it's a community community gym that we're talking about. So, looking at creative solutions and skin in the game can Parks and Recs oversee that portion of it funded through funded I mean, there's endless creative solutions right now though that there's not a solution on the table that is addressing that. So, can we like yes, we can get it, but now reasonably not having contract language even drafted right now to my knowledge I'm not going to get that to committees by July. Now, that means we're going to get it to committee in August. We reduce the amount from 250 to 100. Like I just don't like the cushion right now. Doesn't make me feel comfortable cuz we still have too many moving parts that aren't being addressed yet. >> Davis, correct

119me if I'm wrong. The The position and the like the interviewing, the job description, all that is not supposed to come through the school district because then that means that we're handling fund 80 improperly. Is that correct? >> No, you can have the district can put out a position and pay for that position, but they have to do it out of fund 80. The payment has to come out of fund 80. >> Right. So, our HR department can put together can spend the time on it put together the >> Yeah. >> original. Okay. All right. >> Yeah. >> Okay, thank you. >> Davis, can that person be as Jill was implying a part-time fund 80 and a part-time fund 10 and be a PR person for the school district as well as the director for

120the aquatic center? >> I think Jill was implying that it would be all fund 80. The PR person be paid out of the fund 80, not just you. >> Correct. It would be funded under fund 80 if you do it a split position. Again, going back to our strategic plan, that should drive decision-making because our community has criticized the decisions that we make. So, tying it back to that strategic plan would do that. Right now, quite honestly, my solution that I would offer, that is not I don't even know if this fits in this discussion, is that we create a second contract for likely Kelly, Jake, and Glenda to be paid out of fund 80 to remove that personnel issue, but that is not this current revised amendment, but ties to it because we have

121to be able to discuss it and do something with it. >> So, um those employees you just mentioned have signed contracts for 2026-2027. You would have to offer them new contracts, which they would have to accept. >> May I ask a clarifying question? >> Go ahead, Melissa. >> Um my thought is I understand completely the concern the personnel concern and the continued deficit if we don't have that position there. I do understand that. But I think we're losing sight of the fact that what [clears throat] was it? It's been effectively 3 months that the foundation came up with a almost $2 million that they can help with if needed. I don't see why they would have put the energy into finding a person if they didn't know if the doors were going to stay open.

122So, with the speed [clears throat] that they came up with a solution on their end, I feel like if we work with them that position could be created and filled rather relatively quickly. I mean, they've proven that time is of the They understand time is of the essence and they're willing to put in the work. It just can't It has to happen in the correct order. And to me, keeping the doors open or knowing that the doors are going to be open, I would put my energy into that before I would put it into filling a position that might not exist if the doors don't stay open. That's just my thought. >> Danny, can you correct me if I'm wrong like my maybe my remembering this incorrectly. So, at the last pool task force meeting

123that we had, I thought as Jill brought up too, um that the that the group was going to find a person. Is it that group or is it the school's responsibility? Is this so we're clear We make sure we know who's supposed to be doing what so that the ball doesn't get dropped in there. >> it was a joint effort because it would be They would be a district hire. >> Okay. >> So, the school has to be involved with that. >> Okay. >> If I'm understanding that correctly. >> Okay. >> Yes. So, it would be a joint effort, but again, we have not posted for our position yet, either. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, let's bring us back to the amendment that's on the floor and that is changing item C, the amount from

124$250,000 to $100,000 by July 1. We will have an opportunity after this vote, because this is an amendment to discuss personal matters even farther as we vote on the main resolution. >> I will vote against this revisions not because I don't have faith in Mr. Kost and those involved in the foundation but simply because I value the pool too much to worry about the barriers that we just identified coming to fruition and causing a deficit and forcing the pool to be closed. I feel very strongly that this revision to the amendment is likely to pass. So I for safety comfort security of just having more of a buffer I am a opposed to it and I just I just want to be very open and honest with my why it and the vote. >> I

125think the reason I make this amendment even though you think it's really easy to come up with a $250,000 personal week I suspect it's not. Mr. Kost could be probably the one to answer that question but I think this gives them a little more time to come up with the funds that we need. >> Any other discussion of the amendment on the floor? So to clarify what you're voting upon a yes vote is to change the $250,000 to $100,000 a no vote is to leave it the way that it speaks. Is that clear for everybody? Okay, the voting device is now open. Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. We have seven yes and two no. And the motion of the amendment carries. So now the what is on the

126floor before you is the resolution. And the resolution will speak of the way that it's worded with the exception of the $100,000 on line C, the second line. Okay. Floor is open for discussion. Jill? >> I think at the I don't I I think the goal of the task force was not to come up with a band-aid, but to come up with a solution. Obviously, we haven't quite gotten there yet. It's it's a working solution. My question is what are the thoughts of the board of this going on the ballot or an advisory question? I think we we're relying on nine people to make a decision for the community. The city and county are not an active participant in this. So it's but that's a barrier in my opinion. Um nobody wants to close it,

127but funding and personnel issues are well identified. With this resolution, is there I I'm just curious on discussion from the board of let's truly get the community's feedback to say yes or no, give us that directive. Cuz the aquatic center is not on our strategic plan, but it's considerable time, money, personnel. Can we Are we open to exploring getting the community's feedback to give us that clear directive one way or another? >> So what you're asking to a question on the ballot in November, >> Yeah. >> Okay, so the question on the ballot in November would come after the board has set the tax levy. >> Correct. So, it would be effective >> It would be effective the following year, which would be 2027-28. >> Yes. Thus, fund 80 300,000 would be continued to use

128it for the aquatic center. >> Correct. For the current year. >> Yes, correct. >> If the board votes in October for that $3,000 tax levy for fund 80 as we have for the last several years. Um or it can be changed in October if the board chooses to do that. So, what kind of question would we want to put just hypothetically on the ballot? >> For >> an operational referendum to operate >> just a simple Yes, this is It's not a simple, it's a ballot thing. There's a lot that goes into that, but does the community desire to continue funding the Clara Mechanical Aquatic Center through fund tax levy? Yes, no. I mean, because we're talking about the community, the community, the community. Let's like get the full community taxpayers to say yes or no.

129That's all I With this resolution and I'm thinking that just like right now, but like >> Okay. So, as I've gone to the convention for the last several years, some of the questions come up is uh when can a school district put items on the ballot? And they the the state legislators has restricted and narrowed that down as to how often and when we can put things on the ballot. So, I'd have to ask Davis, is it legal even for us to put something on the ballot in November or do school districts only put things on the spring ballot? I I don't have that answer. >> I I don't have the answer off the top of my head, Danny. I apologize. >> So, I was asking if it is Is it even legal to put

130anything from the school district on the ballot in November as a question? Uh or do we have to wait until April? And then if it is legal for us to put something on the ballot in November, uh what exactly can we put on the ballot? >> Right. I I understood your question. I don't know the answer right now. >> got you. Okay. >> I'm just simply curious about throwing that out there. Maybe it's a a survey that there's that's going to be any joint effort, but because it comes back to a long-term solution. So, if our our vote if our in the the vote comes back that yes, we want to use our tax dollars to fund the pool, that's the long-term solution. Then we just have to increase the levy every year to cover

131the finances. But I'm not comfortable increasing the levy over two times um to meet the needs of the pool without the directive from an actual vote and answers. >> Thank you. That summarizes exactly. That's essentially the long-term plan. Is what's the directive? Now we know we're going to continue to use the tax levy. We are not Yes, thank you. >> Okay, any further questions of the resolution as we have amended it twice? And now you have >> Can we just clarify who is responsible now then for carrying this out? So, that we've discussed that we brought the number down to 100,000 and we're going to have monthly meetings with a foundation to maintain this. And so, who are is that monthly meeting going to be right in with the finance committee or who is responsible

132for carrying that out? >> Davis, you can correct me but I would believe that that would fall on the finance committee and Kelly, our um finance director to have those meetings and be able to inform Mr. Kost and the foundation as to where we're standing financially on that month-to-month basis. >> So, I don't think it's appropriate to be sending your administrators to these meetings to address fund 80 when they're fund 10 employees. Um whether, you know, we're talking about a matter of a minute or two of entering data in or generating a report and sending it to somebody, um you know, I'm not reading the statute that critically. But, when there are is an expec- expectation that hours and hours be dedicated, that's when the issue arises as to whether the fund 10 employee is

133doing fund 80 work. >> So, can these meetings be taking place at the same time in conjunction with our monthly committee meetings where uh Mr. Kost can listen to where the finances are on the monthly basis uh because you just stated that our administrator can enter in the data because that's not much time, but actually it would not fall on her to have the meeting with Mr. Cost, but he would come to the committee meeting or he could be there and speaking with the chairman of the committee and Kelly being present at the committee meetings, uh be able to determine what is in the account on a monthly basis. Is that doable? >> Yes. If we're talking about the reading of a report, I think yes. >> That's what it would be, I would think.

134>> If it's [clears throat] asking your business director to generate a report, send it to someone, and then people go have a discussion about it, I'm comfortable with that. >> I think it would be the report coming to the committee and the committee discussing that like they would discuss any other report at the committee level. Am I missing Am I Am I missing something? >> No. >> Okay. >> But I I don't I don't think it'd be appropriate to send your administrators to those committee meetings specifically dedicated to fund 80. >> But they come to the committee meetings already. >> Sorry, that's my >> Yeah, they're they're at They're required to be at all the committee meetings. The The administrators are. >> That's like going to your doctor's appointment and then saying I'm scheduled for

135my my yearly wellness exam, but I also have this secondary or separate concern and saying, "Can you just bill it, code it as a wellness exam, but kind of hide >> Yeah. >> the coding for the secondary thing that I'm asking you to medically review as my doctor." Like that's kind of what we're saying right now is can we just kind of code it differently? >> Right, which is why you've ended up in this problem. >> Correct. Yes. >> But it's okay for her to send the report to the committee head. >> Yes. >> So then if they want to have that meeting with the foundation at that meeting, does she have to leave the room? >> It comes back to needing a person. >> I mean, are you saying you want a separate meeting

136that they can't come to the finance meeting? You have to do it separately or I mean, I'm not looking to be shady at all. But I am looking at the best use of people's time. I understand she's the one that's paid at the table, but if she's not doing much more than generating the report and then going to a meeting that she's already going to, we've just said those two things are okay. >> I just think she can't be part of the conversation. >> That's I mean, so yeah, that's what I mean, that's I know I said it kind of sarcastically and I'm sorry. >> And you were Yeah. What I don't like is It is a It is what Jill kind of explained. This is an attempt to be cute. I I'm Is everyone

137sitting there in all honesty saying that if Kelly's sitting at these meetings, no one's talking to her? No one's going to ask her a question, period? >> I don't know that we need to ask her >> That's a fallacy. It's I mean >> Once we have the report, I don't know how many questions we need to ask her. Maybe at the beginning until everyone's understanding is a little stronger, but then at that point, once we all know what's going on and have those conversations, why does she need to be a large part of it once she gives us that report? >> The other piece is what Jill has always have been bringing up about the fund 80 employee. Once that person is hired, then that person would be the one that would be at that

138committee meeting speaking on behalf of the pool along with the committee and Mr. Cost with the foundation. >> Right, but we have to make concessions until that's happened. >> Getting making concessions is what got us here. But like that that's the struggle is everybody if the discussion's in good faith, I entirely agree, but like that's that's why we're here is because we are using fund 10 to fund fund 80. >> Understood, but that's been a 20-year process to get us here. We can't fix it in 3 months. We have to take steps to get there. >> Right, I don't disagree at all. The question is do we have a >> not true. No, sorry, Jill. That's not You can fix it. You just need the money. That's like that's the difficult part here that these

139things can be solved with money. These other districts who are doing this and are successfully running these operations have money. There are strategic plans put in place for decades to create an endowment fund, so there's always money available. >> Understood, but that's >> do not have that money 20 years ago. So, you need to address will you create a system or demand a system so that you have money in place to do these things? >> I think that's everyone's goal. >> And and it's not fair. It's not fair to I'm going to go back to it. It's not fair to the Y to operate on a month-to-month and it's also not fair to the students of your district to have your speaking from experience of working with the your administrators every day. They are they

140do not have time in their day-to-day to dedicate to the pool and take away from their dedication to the students. That is why this employee position is so so vitally important. Because it's going to provide a person to create the link that is necessary to have full operational, to have information flowing from the pool to committees, to people who are making decisions like the board. Um but this expectation that the administration can keep operating the way it has been and also be addressing the myriad of issues that are is frankly a when you boil it down, it's an easy issue. Do you have money or not? And you don't have money. And now we're trying to figure out ways to keep the pool operating without the proper money. Like that's what this conversation is boiling

141down to. And I cannot advise you to keep doing this. >> But the money is there. >> Where? >> time to get it. Yes, it is. It's >> It's not It's not there. >> Okay, it's not in my hand, but it's prepared to be in our accounts. We just need to have the things set in place where they know they're not throwing their money at nothing because we're going to close the doors regardless. There are people in our community ready and willing to offer the money that we need to keep the doors open. And then it is Yes, it's on us to fill that eight fund 80 position. I understand that completely. But we need to also give them a little bit of time to get that money to us. They can't just write a

142check and set it on the table right now. But it's there. They've committed to it, and we have not seen any reason to distrust their word. >> I uh concern I have is Co-Vantage Credit Union committed a million dollars, $1 million to their Gridiron program, and then rescinded that. So, that was in 2026. So, Uh there there can be chatter, but the it goes to what Davis is saying, and I there there is it's not here currently. So, yes, again, I don't think anybody disagrees or doesn't have faith in in Mr. Claus and his ability to But right now speaking, we still we still currently do not have the money. >> Right. >> And we could have verbal commitments, and those fall through. >> I guess my question, honestly, is by So, we give If

143we give them the time, with, you know, we've made these amendments. If we vote this in, we give them time to get this money to a fund that is set for the pool. What is the worst-case scenario? If they back out, then we close the doors at that point, correct? So, we're not any better or worse off than we are right this minute. It's just giving our community time to get their things in place so we can make this happen is my thought. >> And that's the same conversation we've been having since March. We're giving them time to get the money. We're giving them time to get the money. None of us had ever said we wanted to close the doors. >> Yeah, I I went I listened to I went through all of the

144meetings. No, I completely understand that part, too. But we've never told them if we have the It's my understanding It's never been said we need X amount of dollars. And we need it now or it's done. And I think that's where we need to be right now. >> Just to be clear, in April, the budget that's in front of the board tonight was presented to the foundation. It was then responded to by saying, "No, you don't need that money. You only need approximately $10,000." >> Okay. >> And so this So, since April, the foundation has known what the general ask is. So, there has been time for the foundation and the community and anybody else who wants to assist the district financially to keep this thing running. This is not a surprise to anybody. So,

145that's Do I wish it was June 22nd and this is up for a vote? Absolutely not. But that is where we are. That's why I don't believe it's a fair for Attorney Hayden, if he said it, and I have a lot of respect for Attorney Hayden, to say that the district has been engaging in bad faith negotiations. >> Okay, is there any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor? >> The motion is the resolution in front of us. >> The resolution, yes. >> 250 reduced to 100. >> Yes. >> And the elimination of number three. >> That failed. The elimination of number three failed. >> Correct. >> No, it passed. Sorry. Thank you. I'm trying to keep all the amendments in my mind, so forgive me for misspeaking. So, the resolution before

146you, the only change, the two changes is letter C. It is now $100,000 and number three is stricken. But, that is the resolution before you. The honor, do you have those in the minutes? >> It is to The amendment The amendment is to change the 250,000 to the 100,000 and to remove the strike. No, those two have already passed. That's passed. >> That's passed. We are at the main resolution. Yep. We're at the main resolution where letter C is changed to 100,000 >> Correct. >> and number three is stricken. Now, that is the main motion. This will be the final vote before the board on this issue. >> Thank you. >> for tonight. >> And there can't be an additional motion for the same topic? >> Uh you can offer a substitutionary motion. >> No,

147I don't want to do that. I was going to add another motion. >> Any other questions regarding the resolution that is before you tonight? So, a yes vote to the resolution before you would be changing letter C to $100,000 and striking number three. If you are in agreement with that, you will vote yes. If you disagree with that, then you will vote no. Does everybody understand how you will vote? >> I know clarifying question. >> Yes. >> And at committee, it is simply a printout with no discussion. >> Correct. Any other questions? Last and final time. All right. Your voting device is open. A yes vote is for the resolution as it was amended. A no vote is to not accept it. Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed and

148the motion carries eight to one and that is our resolution. Okay, uh I would like to take a short recess so I can go and see something. So, let's take a 10-minute recess. We'll be back at 9:47. Uh that Angie will be um leaving. >> Okay. >> Our schedule is such that she's been >> Yep. >> long day. Uh letter B, consideration to approve the second reading of Neola policy 5460 graduation requirements. I will be looking for a motion. >> I move to approve the second reading of Neola policy 5460 graduation requirements. >> Motion has been made by Kristen. Would you like to speak to your motion? >> Uh, this was just a correction from our last meeting. Um, it's come to committee and it is now the correct adjustment. >> Are there any questions

149or discussion of the motion on the floor? Mike? >> Yeah, I just the graduation requirements, why are the credit requirements lower? Be um, my observation is this affects all electives because students don't need to take classes. Um, and that's allowing our students to graduate earlier now. Like we've been having quite a few students graduate as juniors, which is okay, but at the end of the day that also affects students in seats. And the um, Wisconsin requirement or or the average I guess is between 22 and 23 and 1/2 up to 26 credits. And I know you talked about this. We're new here. This went through the committee, but I just why is it been lowered, I guess? >> So this policy wasn't to lower it. We did that a few years back, I do believe.

150Um, this adjustment was just to account for the change in the exception accept since acceptance of al- Oh my god, sorry. Algebra 8 from the middle school and um, the surrounding areas of whether or not that was going to count towards a math credit. So the discussion of lowering um, the credits was that was done in a previous update. >> Thank you. A couple couple years ago, I believe. >> Yeah, and is Amy still on? >> Yes, I am. >> Do you want to speak to that just to give some quick background? I could otherwise, but >> Yeah. You can join in, too, cuz this was a few years ago. So, 22 is the standard. We looked at our um school districts around us. Ours was really high, the credit necessary around electives. Um there's

151a statute based in DPI. Obviously, it's four credits for ELA. Um three credits for math. So, there's some regulations around on that, but we had an extensive number of electives necessary to graduate, which was causing a lot of students to not graduate. Um so, we wanted to make sure we were kind of in that sweet spot where all of our kids could take the courses that they wanted to that allotted them the opportunity to move into the career and college that they chose um after high school and still make sure they had adequate time within our schedule because we went from a I believe prior to me in 8-hour schedule down to seven, so there's some switching in the scheduling piece as well that caused our students not to be able to um acquire all

152the credits necessary for graduation. Um so, it's definitely a scheduling piece and also to make sure that we're allocated with uh DPI and the statutes that um they set for graduation. So, this one you're right. Um I think Kristen, it was around um before we used to have the science credit be able to come in with eighth graders who took advanced science from different parochial schools um and come in and get credit. We realigned our science standards. We've talked to the parochial schools um extensively around that. So, we just needed the wording to match what we were offering within our um K-12 system or 4K-12 system. >> Thank you, Amy. >> Any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor to approve the second reading of this policy 5460. Hearing no questions or

153discussion, your voting device is now open. And for our new board members, second reading means this becomes policy. Policies always go through two readings before they become policy. Okay, would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. And this motion carries. Letter C, consideration to approve the AGR achievement gap reduction 2026 spring data. I will be looking for a motion, please. >> I move to approve the AGR data, 2026 spring data as presented. >> Motion's been made by Mike. Would you like to speak to your motion? >> I know that this is was presented in committee and it was thoroughly talked through, so >> Any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor? >> Amy, are there any highlights you would like to point out? >> No, this is just concurrent

154with our data monitoring reports that we bring three times a year for all of the schools. Um AGR reports are necessary by DPI that we get them approved by the school board. It's part of our audit if we're ever audited as well under the AGR grant. Um so we bring this separately just to make sure it's clearly school board approved, but then we dig deeper in our data monitoring reports to make sure that we show the board and the community exactly where we are on literacy and math um skill sets. So we break it down a little bit more in our data monitoring report and that's not state like necessary for the state, but we do that to be more transparent so that people know exactly where we are on our benchmark screeners. Um we

155use AIMSweb now, so if you look in the past on some of the AGR reports, you'll see FastBridge. That was our benchmark screener. We're currently using AIMSweb. Uh we flipped over completely this year uh 4K 12 with that uh screener. But, this is just kind of formality that we make sure that our um AGR reports are board approved by you. >> Thank you, Amy. Any other questions or discussion of the AGR? >> I'll just add Amy, this is Gina. I really appreciate the the effort that you put into these reports. They're super helpful. >> You are welcome. >> Any other questions or discussion? Hearing no questions or discussion, your voting device is now open. Would anyone like to change their vote? Vote's now closed. And the motion carries. Letter D, consideration to approve the 2026

156through 2029 Fortinet renewal. I will be looking for a motion. >> I move to approve the bid from Camera Corner in the amount of $65,990 for the 2026 to 2029 Fortinet renewal. >> Motion has been made by Mike. Would you like to speak to your motion? >> No. >> Are there any questions to the motion on the floor? Hearing no questions or discussion of the motion on the floor, your voting device is now open. >> Randy, give it another shot there. >> Okay, would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. And the motion carries. >> Is Kesha on the call? Is she here? >> I am. >> Yeah. I wanted to say thank This is Jean again. Thank you, Kesha, for your work you put into your reports. It's also really

157really helpful and easy to follow. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Letter E, consideration to approve the printer {slash} copy RFP. I would be looking for a motion. >> I move to approve the printer copier proposal from E.O. Johnson for a 5-year term. >> Motion has been made by Jean. Would you like to speak to your motion? >> No. >> Any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor? Hearing none, the voting device is now open. Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. And the motion carries. Letter F, consideration to approve the annual HRA contributions. I will be looking for a motion. >> I move to approve the 2026-2027 preliminary budget as presented. >> Uh we are on letter F. You can hold that one later. Letter F. >>

158The HRA. >> Take two. >> Round two. I move to approve the annual contributions to the district's HRA plan for eligible staff in an amount not to exceed $68,475. >> Motion has been made by Danny. you like to speak to your motion? >> I think that that is a great asset to our staff and I'm happy to see that we are continuing that. >> Is there any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor? >> Yes, I have a question as a new board member. Um, I don't have context from the past. I'm just curious how this compares to previous years. >> As far as the amount that we are awarding? >> Right. Yeah. >> I'd have to defer that to Kelly. >> Yep. So, last year there was an amount of 158,000. That

159includes the $1,000 contribution for teachers, um, the impact of sick leave buyout, and then the impact of the retirement incentive contribution. Um, and as far as detailed and historic, um, numbers beyond that, um, those all should be in BoardDocs as well. >> Oh, so if I look at past uh, what are what month are we doing? If I look at past June, has this always come up in June? Or I find it hard to find things in BoardDocs. >> Yeah, I'm not sure when the past administration has brought these forward >> Yeah. >> or if they have topic summary sheets like we do. Um, we have detailed topic summary sheets that Mrs. Oginsky has put into place since she's been here. So, I am not exactly sure what they've done in the past as to

160which month. I would imagine it would be around March, April, May, or June. It has to be done before June 30th. >> Okay, thank you. >> Deonna, would you please let the record reflect that I will recuse myself from the discussion and the vote of this item. Is there any other discussion or question of the motion on the floor? Hearing none, your voting device is now open. Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed. And that motion carries. Uh letter G, consideration of 2026-2027 preliminary budget. I will be looking for a motion. >> I move to approve the 2026-27 preliminary budget as presented. >> Motion made by Danny. Would you like to speak to your motion? I'll I will speak to this very briefly uh as uh been on the board

161for quite some time. The preliminary budget is exactly what that first word says, preliminary. This will change between now and the final budget that does come out that we vote on in October. This just gives us an idea of where we are uh because um uh there are factors and variables that will cause this to change. Kelly can opine on this uh if she would like to uh say some of those factors that could possibly change the budget. So, this is a 30,000-ft view of what a budget might look like for next year. Did I explain that okay, Kelly? >> Definitely, yes. There are many factors that determine what your revenue is, including enrollment. And third Friday count in September is a large one. And obviously, we don't know what our revenue is until the

162fiscal year has already started. So, that's one of the complexities of school finance. Um much like you're seeing with the pool. Um taxes fund fund your budget. And when those things when those numbers don't come out until after you're already operating, that makes things difficult. So, yes, it's a preliminary budget that is our best projection with all the facts that we have at this time. >> Thank you, Kelly. Can I ask a question about page five and fund 80? Which one are you looking at? The the June Never mind. I know where you are. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, I think it's June. June 20 preliminary budget. It says community service fund fund 80. And Kelly, are you there where he's asking? >> Yes, I was just waiting for his question. >> Thank you. Okay. The

163the question is they they're proposing that we're going to end up with a negative 869,000 in fund 80. Is that presuming we're not going to get the past the bill for the 300? I mean, that's a mighty big jump up. You know, that's a $700,000 jump up in the deficit of fund 80. That's would to me imply they're going to take in absolutely zero funds from the pool this year. >> So, that's an excellent question. And no, I did not assume that the school board was going to levy fund 80 funds. Um knowing that the $300,000 levy that has been done in the past is not enough to fund the expenditures. Um I am not going to assume or presume that the school board would put a number in there. Um that's up to the

164school board to identify what they feel would be the best tax impact to impose on the taxpayers of the school district. Um so, no, I did not put anything in there for that. Again, we wouldn't know that number until the board approves um an amount that they would determine in the end of October. That's also assuming there'd be about 112,000-ish of memberships and revenue that again still isn't guaranteed. So, I think we've talked about all the rest of the details earlier. >> Kelly, I've got a question. I looked at the budget that was approved back in October and compared that 25-26 budget uh from that meeting to your column of the 25-26 budget on this uh preliminary for 26-27 and some of the numbers are off by a substantial amount. The uh the total ending

165fund balance on the very first page uh under general fund fund 10 that account 930000 in the October um budget, it was like 8.7 million. And on your sheet, you've got 10.9 million. That's almost 2 million dollars more. And I'm just And there are other ones like that, but I'm just curious why the numbers don't line up. I was expecting them to be, you know, the same. >> Great question. So, school finance is very complex. So, we're talking you're talking about two different funds right now. Uh fund 80 is different than fund 10. >> I'm not talking about fund 80. >> Okay. I thought that's what you said in the beginning, so I apologize. >> Sorry. Fund 10, on the very first page, >> Yep. >> the ending fund balance that you have for 25-26

166is 10.9 million. When I look at the >> So, that's because we haven't >> When I look at the budget that was approved by the board in October, it's 8.7 million. That's a over 2 million dollar difference. Why are your budget 25-26 numbers different than the approved budget in October? >> So, right now, we have not done our fund 46 transfer yet. And the budget is not Our fiscal year-to-date is not over. So, that's exactly what Mr. Pyatt had stated that this is preliminary. The ending of 25-26 is not going to be finalized until the audit is over. Your fund 46 transfer doesn't happen until the end of July. Um so, when you have funds that not have not been expen- expended, you have two choices. One of them is to keep them in fund

16710, which increases your taxes to your local taxpayers and decreases your aid. Um and that's why we choose to fund fund 46. So, that might be what you're seeing there. >> So, the So, what you're calling budget 25 26 is actually expenditures or or actuals or something like that or predicteds. >> Right. The 25 26 is not over. Yep. >> And then as just a similar question, I compared the 24 25 numbers to the audits numbers and some of those don't agree either. >> I guess I'm not sure what you're looking at right now. >> Neither am I, to be honest. I got a little I'm getting a little confused. >> Yeah, it is very confusing. So, I I totally understand that. >> I'll ask it the next time when we look at the preliminary

168budget. >> Yeah, in October your audit isn't completely finished and closed out and that's why >> Oh, for 24 25? >> Correct. Yep, so when you're looking at your budget meeting in October you don't have finalized numbers and audited numbers necessarily in October. And I know that seems confusing, but it all the numbers don't get closed out until your final audit. And that comes to the board as well. >> And when is the final audit? Usually? >> It's closed out and reported to the board in winter. And when I say winter, it's because it's not an exact month. So, every year you would be able to see that on when those things have gone to the board in the past. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Mhm. >> Jean, I know the questions that you've

169been having about finances are the some of the same similar questions that I had back in 2017 when I came on the board and I went to the business director and he really helped me understand a lot of those and I know other board members who have done the same. So if if you could, I would set an appointment with Kelly and and go and and spend some time with her and she'll really do a deep dive with you with school finance. >> do a Vulcan mind meld? >> [laughter] >> I am lost. >> Star Trek reference, sorry. >> Okay. I'm sorry. I'm not I'm not really Okay, moving right along. Any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor? Hearing none, your voting device is now open to approve the preliminary budget

170as presented. Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed and the motion carries with seven yeses and one no and the one no being Mike Brezicky. Item number five, closed session, consideration of a motion to adjourn into closed session pursuant to section 19.851c and f for purposes of considering employment, promotion, compensation, or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility and considering financial, medical, social, or personal histories, or disciplinary data of specific persons, preliminary consideration of specific personnel problems, or the investigation of charges against specific persons except where paragraph B applies which if discussed in public would be likely to have a substantial adverse effect upon the reputation of any person referred to in such histories or data or involved in such

171problems or investigations to wit discussion and possible action on applicability of grievance procedure to employee grievance. I will be looking for a motion. >> So moved. >> Motion is made by Jill. Is there a second to the motion? >> I'll second. >> Second by Kristen. And for our new board members, our closed session times is always given by a motion and a second and then there's always a roll call vote to go into closed session. So Deonna, could you do the roll call vote, please? >> Can I ask a question first, Danny? >> Uh you not while the uh uh the vote is in motion. >> Okay. Okay. Angie Schreiber Kristen Matmiller >> Yes. >> Daniel Nicholson >> Yes. >> Jean Adams >> Yes. >> Mike Perizic >> Yes. >> Melissa Cornelius >> Yes. >>

172Randy Randy Myers >> Yes. >> Jill Maddock Nelson >> Yes. >> Danny Pyatt >> Yes. >> We are now in closed session.