001Before we start, I do want to welcome member of our committee now. microphone. I'll try that again. Uh like to welcome Miss Mason to uh our committee. She's been ex facto member and now will become a voting member for the next four months. So uh welcome, welcome. Glad to have you here. In fact, we're going to jump you right in in just a minute. Let you lead us in our pledge of allegiance. But before we do that, uh would you please call the role? It's K. >> Pete Wilder, >> present. Melissa Mason >> here. >> Judy Justice >> here. >> And we will have our invocation today by Reverend David Haley, uh, associate pastor of the Rightsville United Methodist Church. Welcome. Glad to have you here. And then we'll have our pledge by Miss Mason.
002Let us pray. Lord God, we give you thanks for the gift of this day. We thank you for the gift of rain. Not always a convenient gift, but but what a blessing when we're coming off of a drought. And just a reminder that even in the midst of challenges, there can be great blessings. We pray for this committee as they meet today. We pray Lord for guidance and wisdom. And we give you thanks for the commitment on the part of each of these individuals to the education of our children. aware that each and every day, each and every hour of every school day that the work of our public schools is impacting positively the lives of so many many children, not only their future lives but also their present lives. And we just pray again
003for guidance and wisdom as matters are discussed today which will impact the work of our schools and will impact the lives of our students. In your name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right. Our next point of business will be the approval of the agenda. Is there such a motion? >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. All oppose. Like sign. passes 30. Approval of the minutes. Is there a motion to approve the minutes? >> So move. >> And I'll
004second that. Any discussion? Hearing none. All uh all approving, please signify by saying I. I. >> I. >> All oppose. Like sign. Passes 30. We have uh Mr. Justice, I did mention before that we have like a 45 uh hour meeting ahead of us. So get >> 45 hour. Get comfortable. Just kidding. Kidding. Kidding. Kidding. >> I'm just kidding. I'm still in. >> Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. >> Pajama. >> Yeah, >> I've slept in my clothes. >> Well, we're having fun at a meeting. Come on now. What in the world? All right, we're going to jump in with uh both feet. We'll start with uh our first policy, which is 4150 school assignment. >> And that's page 18 in your packet. >> Thank you. You're welcome. >> All right. page 18, we do
005have the red section uh there. Uh that is the proposed change. Um and I'll read that out loud. I think it's is it up there? Miss Geski is having to do two jobs today, so I appreciate her. You going to get her running shoes on and everything else. This is my first. >> Give her a second to get that up. All righty. And there we go. There's the red section. The student assignment plan shall detail the procedures for how the lottery assignment process shall work. All lotteryies will provide an equal chance for all students to be selected. No weighted preferences shall be made. This does not include cooperative innovative high school programs and the suggested uh deletion is save the students geographic proximity to the schools. I think that is I'm double checking my notes.
006I think that's all I had as far as there was the change proposed change. >> What is the will of the committee? >> Well, this justice >> discussion you know how I feel about this very opposed to this change to begin with. But now that the change is here, they added or they took away even more practical educational aspects. What's going on in my opinion? Um why save the students geographic proximity to the school if they're like they live next door? You're saying that they're going to be in the lottery with everybody else? I mean, is this the purpose of this change? Correct. >> I believe so. Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Well, I think proximity that has been a standard for magnet schools in other districts that I've worked with, >> not just ours. It's
007always been a standard here. And I hate I first of all I hate to talk the lottery being taken away but the proximity and here it's ironic because so many people use the term community um community schools not community school neighborhood schools and here you're taking it away when it actually for change makes sense >> as opposed to being used for political reasons. So, as I said, literally if they live a block away, two blocks away, and the school's right there now, then you're going to have a limitation. Dr. Barnes, what is the limitation on the proximity? >> Now, I that the only schools that didn't have a proximity at all were Cottington, Ean, and Gregory. Correct. >> Yeah, I think that's true. >> Gregory does. >> It Oh, it does. Okay. That's a good
008thing though >> because Snipes and Freeman are also magnet schools but they also do have their own >> proximity area as well. >> But Codington and Eaton don't have that because we don't want if a child or a family doesn't want a year- round calendar. It shouldn't matter how close to the school they are if that's not what they want for their family. Plus, if you're talking about say you're two blocks away and the child can walk, otherwise you going to put them on bus and they might be on bus reporting. You don't know. >> I'm just saying that it just for practical purposes and not just this district but other districts I've worked in, it's just always been something that you give a plus to living in the neighborhood with the school that's a
009magnet school. In this case, he's a magnet school. And Mr. Kinski uh shared just to let make sure everybody understands too the policy was presented to the board and a revision was approved by them on July 8th 2025 board meeting. So and unfortunately I was not there so >> yeah Miss Mason can you share your thoughts on this please? >> I'm just curious um who removed that and do we know the justification for doing that? >> Good question. >> I believe that and I do not know. Um I'm thinking Mr. Keski you >> well I I have no problem leaving it in >> go back to the July meeting that but >> I I'm pretty sure I I'm not pretty sure I know I didn't >> I didn't I this was a total surprise to
010me >> believe it might have been Mr. Perry that >> might be Mr. Perry. Yeah, because I guess my my question would be what is the justification for it? Like >> just so I know. I mean I don't want to. >> So I think what this is saying is no weighted preferences for the lottery bill we made except for the students geographical proximity to the school being a factor. >> But I don't think with Cington and Eaton that's ever been a factor. >> And they took it out. They took the proximity out. Isn't that what this is right here? >> That's what that is. >> Yeah. And that's what Yeah. We don't know why. >> Go ahead. >> So, who would it impact? >> So, in in the lottery in the um the weights that
011were applied for Eaten and Cottington, there was a zip code um preference. So, my >> but it wasn't the zip code closest to the school. It was a zip code. >> It was not one. It was not closest to the school. But, so this paragraph was um provided as an addition to the policy. This was all of it was new and the part that's been struck from that saved the students geographical proximity to the school was provided as as a change recently and that's what's removed. So it's not something that has been longstanding that's been removed. It was something from this statement that's being removed. >> So I guess my question sorry. So I guess my question is does this impact if we remove it does it impact or if we keep it does it
012impact anybody at all as far as the the lottery goes? So, so to clarify, the only schools that are straight lottery are Eaton and Codington. So, Gregory does have an attendance zone like Rachel Freeman and um Snipes. So, um >> no, this would not remove the geographic proximity for Rachel Freeman, Snipes, or Gregory. They still have an attendance zone. This is removing this sentence from the change that was recommended that was then approved by the board. So >> those two schools Eington and Cington, >> right? So then there would be a straight lottery and there would not be a weight added to the zip code preference. >> So in other words, if somebody lives right around the corner from Eaton, they they would get a right now they would get a preference, but they wouldn't
013get one. >> The the preference was not for geographic proximity to the school. the preference was for under reppresented areas of the county. Um and so this was um saying that there would be a weight or that there would be preference for those that live closest to the school. But that's not something that was in place for eating in Codington. >> Would you recommend it was the best place for eating or not? >> I like the idea. Literally, if you're living two blocks away, why are you going to and you like year round? You should have a preference. I mean, this is my personal opinion as parents. >> Um, seriously, why put your child I'm sorry. Why put your child on a bus, maybe ride for 30 or 40 minutes to another school on the
014other end, like Porter's Neck? I don't know. That's maybe where they'd end up going. Might be. I don't know as if that's as relevant because Williams is about a mile from Codington and >> Blair is about a mile from Eaton. >> Well, and that part's true. I'm just saying. Yeah, you got a point there. >> What would you >> It's a small county. >> Well, because the year- round model is its own entity. I don't think I think if we're doing because what you're saying is we're going to have a straight lottery. We're going to have a straight lottery. We're not going to have preferences. Oh, but let's add this preference back in. The argument was for a straight lottery >> without weights. >> Okay. >> so I make a motion that we approve policy
0154150 with the deletion of save the students geographic proximity to the school. Is there a second? >> I'll second that. >> Yeah. And then now Yeah. And now that all of this has been explained >> Yeah. >> that I was not aware of. >> Told you 72 hours. I wasn't kidding. Now, I will tell you that just to make sure people are aware that sibling privilege and employee privilege is factored in prior to the lottery being run. So, if my second grader goes to eaten and my kindergartner comes up, I apply and they're automatically granted. They're not lottery. So, the lottery only takes effect after the sibling privilege and appointed wages have been done. And that's only for the elementary, not as I found out the other day, >> not for the not for the
016early cooperative high schools. Correct. >> Just those two schools, just those two. >> Well, sibling privilege applies for all schools except for those schools that require a rubric for entering. So, the cooperative um innovative high schools um do not include sibling privilege, but every other school does. And the only change, the only difference would be if we hire a staff member later, like in the summer, then we will make room for their child to be at the school where they're teaching if they want to use their employee benefit. >> Those are those one or two places that people were arguing over earlier already class. >> This is the way it was presented. So that was crossed out. >> I'm not having any. Oh no, it's just leaking. I don't want to leak on you. >>
017My glasses broke. This is >> Thank you. Okay, we have a motion and a second before us. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor of moving 4150 with the deletion onto the full board in September, please signify by saying I. >> I. I pass 30. Thank you very much. >> We will carry on with uh 4329/7311. Um this is one of the several policies and I'm going to ask uh before we start even discussing these cuz a lot of these have the same discussion point which is uh House Bill 805. Uh and Mr. Blanchard is here and I'm going to ask him to kind of give us his best opinion on uh HB 805 actually discusses the word biological sex versus sex. Um but I I would defer to him real quickly and then
018we can discuss because we have several policies that are coming up that discuss that. >> Mr. Glad you >> uh the um and I'm pulling up House 805 right right now and and the changes that Oh, >> you got it. >> You have it, too. >> I've got actually a different one, but I have a new bar of yours. Go for it. >> Um the changes it made. I think everybody should have You have two. >> It it instructs us here. >> I'm sorry. It's right. It should be right next to your name plate or over there. Yeah, >> there you go. >> Okay, there. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Apologize. Among other things, it instructs us to um recognize sex as biological sex. I mean, that's the general idea behind it. But the statute, the
019way we've gotten our bullying policies and things like that, we just use the term sex. So going back to just using the term sex is going to be completely in compliance with with House Bill 805. Um I guess what I'm trying to say is making that change to add biological in front of every time you mention sex doesn't add anything. Doesn't you know help us doesn't move the ball forward on anything. And arguably there's some detriment because there may end up being some conflict between House Bill 805 and the way the federal government, the courts, um, would view these policies. You're try, you know, the language, this was the language that was in it. Sex was the way it was written before 2021. And, you know, moving it back to that, I don't see any
020problem with that. that's completely in accord with um House Bill 805. Um and those things, one of the nice things about our bullying and harassing policy is that it makes clear in in paragraph six, I believe, B6, that um the examples listed there are not exhausted um but are intended to illustrate a range of behavior that can cover it. Remember, looking at the back end of this, when does the bullying policy come into effect or come into play for us, for you as board members, is when you're having to deal with a disciplinary appeal. And you guys have just recently been in one. And recall that the the question for you there was whether this administration had shown a violation of policy or not. I don't want you to get into a situation where you're
021hamstrung on an appeal because somebody makes that argument that well I can harass somebody or bully them and and you can't discipline me because the way the policyy's written now um you know it it I think that paragraph six is designed to do that. Um but you don't want to qualify the term sex and not have the ability to uh to later discipline people um for harassment. We all agree that harassment on any basis, bullying is something that the school system is not going to tolerate. Um we owe that to the students and and you know adding the word biological doesn't support that aim. But that's my take on it. >> Thank you sir. >> And Dr. >> in the parenthetical statement. >> Good word. >> What was that? I can't say it again. >>
022I can't even get subsistence. Remember? Um, >> I did. Just roll right up. It >> uh page 24. It says here, "Prohibiting harassment based on federally protected characteristics." What is the federally protected characteristic that's being described? What What does the federal government use? Sex. So sex is is the way the statute reads. just plain old sex discrimination. >> I wonder if we put that in there based on federally protected because we're referencing that in the legal reference something to do with a federal guideline. Do you know what I mean? Like if the federal I think if it's if we're saying here prohibited by federal protected characteristics discrimination harassment protected by federal law should we not have it be the same thing that's written in the federal law >> which which is sex that's the term
023I'm saying we can using just the term sex without any without biological before it or any other thing like gender identity and all that is the easiest way for us to be in compliance. with both House Bill 805 and federal law because it tracks the language of the statute. Um >> because it's broader, not more specific. >> There you go. >> You got it. There's a little bit of uh uh leeway in that. Um depending on how different administrations may choose to define sex going forward. Um, but for right now at least, just like it had been for the years before 2021, it it's perfectly um that using the term sex is is perfectly compliant. But this is where we get into this difficulty because if the federal law is saying one thing and we
024have a state law saying >> something different >> but using the term sex would allow us to comply with both. At least looking at at you know the way the policy's written we you know we couldn't we would not have one of those situations where for example the EEOC or because you know oddly enough title 9 does actually apply to employment decisions not just you know not which nobody ever picks up on that they go the title seven route reasons for that but um it it technically does cover employment discrimination and using the term sex keeps you in compliance. Um, and I'm not I'm not not talking about the bullying policy so much here, but just um as a policy preference going forward. You know, using the term sex has been good enough for the
025last 50 years. It it it uh nothing's changed that changes that justice. >> Yeah. to all the cuz let's the majority of these policies that's what we're here to change or to agree to or whatever. So that would apply to every one of these just leave the word sex and don't have to be adding anything extra to make it uh I don't know not in compliance necessarily with the federal law >> exact I mean that's my view also has the added bonus of being the uh the compromise that makes everyone equally unhappy. So um >> I'm fine with it at this point. What are your thoughts, Miss Mason? >> I honestly I could go either way. Um I understand, you know, it is a fine line that we have like lean towards state, lean toward
026federal. Um changing this, would that impact any kind of because I know you talked about like lawsuits, but would that impact any kind of um funding? Would there be like a a rescending of any funding if we were to change it all to biological and it didn't comply with one but it complied with the other? I guess would be my question. >> Based on the enforcement policies we're seeing or preferences now, it wouldn't make any change for the next 3 years. Three years and a few months at the very least, but um you know or until there's some further guidance from the Supreme Court. Um, but it if again, you know, the only downside to me is that weird sliver of doubt about what the fourth circuit view they will take going forward on what
027sex means. But if you got it listed as sex, you're covered either way. >> How about the schools? How do you think, you know, do you think there would be any impact? Let's let's look since we're talking about the bullying policy, which obviously is something that you I'm sure you know at your school. I know that you don't have to ever worry about that, but other schools have to worry about that. So, what do you think? What are your thoughts on on the bullying policy? Would it be better to do biological sex or sex or >> I think just plain sex is fine. Biological. >> Okay. Thank you, M. Justice. >> Yeah. listening to this Mason. My understand is that the federal law always supersedes state law and there's quite a few laws across the
028country that don't that you know that they're like this but that doesn't make them any less uh they have to still take into account federal law first. So is that correct? It's always the federal law is the top pime primary laws we need to be following then the state. Then we get to our local. >> Yeah. >> And and primarily, you know, thinking back when you look at Title N. Um, now there is a private people do have the ability to sue privately for violations. We've seen, you know, those types of complaints, but the thing that everybody's scared of when the administration changes, you're always scared what or concerned about what enforcement um policy they're going to take. You can see some of the northeastern states right now are dealing with threats to cut off
029funding because of um um >> athletics, isn't it? >> Yeah. Try sports >> participation rules. Let's just say it that way. Um but for us again, I think that's the advantage of of using just the unadorn term sex in it. Um because it it will allow us to accurately say that we're in compliance with whatever enforcement policy we're going to get. >> And I think we can always go back and if if it does change like the fourth circuit comes in and says no, it's biological sex, we can always go back as a committee and and revise it if needed. >> Okay. So I will take >> something that's not broken. >> I will entertain a motion to make no changes to policy. I mean, which would delete the red part. Uh, I'll entertain a
030motion to make no changes to 4329. >> I second. >> Well, you make the motion, but I'll >> Didn't you just make a motion? >> I said I'll entertain one. >> Oh, I will make the motion then to to strike the word biolog. Don't add anything. >> I'll second that. All in favor of leaving 4329 as is. Please signify by saying I. I. >> I. All opposed. And that will not let me I'm looking over at our >> not going to go to we're not going to be here all doesn't need to go anywhere because it's not changing. Okay, good enough. >> All right. Now for the big discussion page 31. >> All right. Our next um >> got you covered. >> Our next uh policy is 2210. Um just to let everyone know, I've
031kind of written it down so I have my timeline. Um one of our board members, Mr. Perry contacted me Saturday morning requesting an audience to speak to this committee. Uh I shared with him that during my two years on the policy committee, I do not remember having a a cold audience type uh format at any time, but I would check with the other two policy chairs in the last two years, Miss Mason and Miss Barnhart. Miss Barnhart uh replied that day that only when she was directed by the entire board uh did she have the student uh voice group come and speak. Uh and bless you. And Miss Mason said again it was not normal but that she had Miss Barnhart speak one time. Uh I responded Saturday evening to Mr. Perry giving him a
032compromise and that compromise was that he could share with me uh an email which I would share with everyone. He decided instead of doing that to share with everybody. So you should have the email from him that he he sent uh it was late last night. So but I will read that to as I said I would to the uh committee. Uh it's lengthy so um please just bear with me. Uh, dear policy committee members, I heard from Mr. Wleore yesterday and learned that my request to address the policy committee tomorrow in regards to my policy package proposal has been denied. Because I will not be allowed to be available to answer nuance questions that I might normally naturally arise during discussion my proposal. I believe this decision is not in the best interest of
033the school district. Nonetheless, Mr. Mr. Wavore did state if I sent an email that outlined my thoughts and suggestions on the proposal that he would share that publicly with the committee tomorrow. So here it goes. The first thing to note is that my policy proposal should be reviewed as a package and not as individual policy amendments. The package uh was prompted by Mr. Wabore's initial proposal to revise 2210. The other policy changes I am recommending stem from my proposal my proposed amendments to Mr. Wore's proposal to change policy 2210. Under Mr. Wabore's proposal uh policy 2210A1C lists the power to make committee's assignments as one of the duties of the chairperson. I agree that this is indeed a power and duty of the chairperson. But just this year there have been disagreements between the board
034members on how quickly initial committee assignments need to be made by the chairperson. And under that circum and under that circumstances the chairperson may alter these assignments rather than get into a lengthy description of how the committee assignment process should work by listing it policy 22 uh 10 AC. I think it best describes this pro this process under policy 2230 covering board committees. My only change to Mr. Wabore's language for policy 2210A1C is to add pursuant to the procedures outlines in policy 2230. Under Mr. Wabour's proposal, the new section added labeled additional responsibility has been added to policy 22A1. This section goes into length on disciplinary process for board members who violate our ethics policy policy 2120. While the proposed section does mention some duties of the chairperson in this regard, it goes far beyond
035that and includes disciplinary processes that properly belong to the whole board. My proposal is to remove this whole section from policy 2210 and describe the disciplinary process process under a new section of our ethics policy policy 2120. My first proposed change to policy 2230 board committees is more of a housekeeping matter. Since we voted as a board earlier this year to to dissolve the title 9 committee, we should remove it under the list of standing committees 2230 A and B. And actually, we also no longer have a turnaround task force. So that's my little addition. If we're going to do that, we need to change that one. Also, we've also, as Miss Mason said a minute ago, we also have changed the uh function and functionality of the finance committee to add the uh capital
036and the bond on there. So, we also should update that too. Back to Mr. Perry's letter. My second proposed change to policy 2220 2230 board committees is to add a new section labeled G committee assignment process. This main point of this section addresses the timeliness of the committee assignment process. My proposal suggests that the chairperson has 30 days to make committee assignments initially and when vacancies arise. Such a specific timeline is necessary to ensure a well functioning board and avoid the possibility that chairperson might try to subvert the will of the board by sitting on committee assignments. The second main point addressed the proposed section for the need of committee members once appointed to be secure in knowing that short of exceptional circumstances, their committee assignments will endure for the entire term of the chairperson's
037term. A member of a committee cannot perform their duties with integrity and conviction required if their continued membership on that committee is subject to the whims of the chairperson. They should not have to fear that if they vote their conscience but contrary to the opinion of the chairperson that they could lose their membership on that committee. Uh a new section labeled B consequences of violating the code of ethics. First point I want to make about this proposal is we need to recognize the chairperson is not our boss but our leader. As individually elected board members, we take orders only from the electorate, while the chairperson is responsible for keeping order and fostering cooperation and good behavior from board members. Policy 2120 A clearly states that the board will adhere to disciplinary process outlined in Robert's
038rules of order. Robert's rules of order clearly states that disciplined actions are the responsibility of the whole board, not the chairperson. Finally, my proposed new section ensures a fair and impartial hearing is afforded to to the board member who is accused of violating code of ethics. Robert's rules of order not only demands this, but the fifth amendment does as well. Although due process takes time and can be burdensome, I think we owe our student body, the next generation of citizens, not to not only teach them civics from a book, but also by example. This completes my email. Since I will not be invi since I was not invited to address the committee tomorrow, I will not be in attendance. I plan to do my J day job. However, if you need if you end up
039having questions, please feel free to call me. Sincerely, David Perry. Okay, I did what I said I was going to do. All right, so let's go on to policy 2210. Um just want to be clear if we have if you look at the left side we have well on the thing we have the duties the officers and the part originally prepared there is um again I I uh made that I I'm not going to take credit for writing it all. I did find it in uh some other board policies uh from surrounding counties and also from surrounding states. But um that one is the one that has uh duties of the chairperson crosses out the first ones and in red starts with presiding over meetings. The chairperson uh ensures the board meetings are conducted in
040fair and orderly manner allowing all members to express their views and on down. And I think what Mr. Perry is discussing here is the additional responsibilities. Uh in event that the chairperson believes that any board member has violated the board member code of ethics policy 2120 and or board norms, the chairperson may afford the board member an opportunity to make a public apology at a board meeting in open session. Regardless of whether the board member makes an apology at a board meeting in open session, the board member may be subject to disciplinary action by the board upon the majority vote of the board. if the board member violated the code of ethics. Such actions include but are not limited to censure removal from board uh committee assignments and or loss of privileges. And then the
041rest of it goes on. >> Mr. Perry's suggestions are afforded to us uh under the section section where it says David Perry um where he actually takes and he he just deletes that whole section. So I guess maybe our smartest thing to do would be to start with that policy and then we can carry on to other policies. Thoughts, Miss Mason, >> so many what I wanted to do is um you know it as the current board chair, you know, you look at things from a different lens. But what I wanted to ask because we do have some experienced board members who have have lots of time on served on this board more than I do. So I wanted to kind of consult Miss Justice and Mr. Voldevore about previous practices. So not just what's
042in policy because it's not all covered in policy, but previous practices. And my question for for the two of you is these have already been in practice, but we're codifying them. And I just wanted to kind of throw that your way and just kind of see past practice has been what? >> Well, I'll speak first as former board chair. I think that, you know, these have been in in place. I think that they're you know, it's like anything else. they can be um you know that there are times that we need to relook them over and and and further uh ensure that we are following them well and we're being fair to everybody. Um but I think in in the light of everything else I think that these you know I think that that's why
043I wrote them the way I wrote them. I think that this actually does talk about and you know it's like the other day and without going into names etc. But if you think about what happened just last week you know the the board made the decision to ask you to do something. It wasn't that we you know so again we were as a board saying to our chair we think this is the right thing to do but again we didn't tell you to do it and we didn't you know and we didn't do it. We said we asked you to do it. So I mean so that you know have I miss Justice and I can think at least one time of a of a person that was taken off a committee that was you
044know probably not really fair you know that was you know I won't mention that person's name but >> that was very >> Yeah. Yeah. But I mean besides that >> their job they were taking off. But if you think about overall I think you know all you know and we've been I've been through what one two myself twice and then so five different board chairs or four different board chairs you know and I think overall it's it's worked pretty well and I think this is just again putting in into you know so it's not like well you can't do this can you do this it's all right here but I'll defer to Miss Justice now >> um I got into even more board chairs than you Yeah. Uh some of them a lot worse than
045the ones you experienced as far as using your power inappropriately. Is that a good way of putting it? Um a lot of this you can codify to the end of the world where the cows come home. A lot of it has to do with trust and respect. Um that's one of the reasons we have elections. Yeah. And if we have a situation with the chair, unfortunately, it's like any other elected official. It could be, you know, four years, one year, whatever. Uh that's actually the only way you can do a lot as far as the people in authority. But um I heard everything that it was his concern. I happen to think that we do have rules to follow. It's not just the elected people who put us in office. And anybody that's in a
046public position, an elected official that thinks that they don't, I don't know what planet they're living on, but we answer to each other. We answer to the public. We answer to the policies that we write. So to think that the only standard is your own conscience is that's that could lead to chaos. >> Absolutely. >> That's the reason we have government. That's the reason we have these policies. >> And honestly, I've tried to talk to Mr. Perry about this and I'm not the only one. Uh I hope he listens to this and understands we have rules for a reason. I think that mistakes get made because we're human. A lot of what went on when we first got sworn in and came in was just because we were all new or part of us were
047new and we were learning. That's what I kept saying, give each other grace. We didn't always do a great job, but we're we're figuring it out and it's getting better. It really is getting better. Um, and that's what's important is we need to get, you know, to work together. We need to follow policy. As far as his policy suggestions, the only one that I felt was applicable that would be useful would possibly be the 30-day rule as far as a committee assignments, just so people know. >> Pardon? >> Well, he was right in his wrong thing. >> Yeah, that was >> okay. We'll wait until we get to that one then. Yeah. I mean, I just >> But but you know, that's the only otherwise I I really don't see any I like what you've
048done. You can tell it's it's less of a list and more of a u it just flows better as far as understanding what your duties are. Is that that useful the way you rewarded it? And having been a chair, you understand, you know. So, and yeah, that works that way. I I also often just also say a chair is a very powerful position and it's really up to the person that's why we have our elections on the board to do what's right by the whole district and not just their own particular interests. Um and what I and what I see is I happen to think now that what we are doing as a board is working together to try to focus more on the what's best for the district. I I don't see a lot
049of personal ambitions flying around and I have seen it in other and I told you I I I always thought you did a pretty good job as a chair, you know, and I think you're doing a good chair. Yeah, >> pretty pretty good. >> Yeah, >> pretty good. >> Wait a minute. Pretty good. >> Uh but these these these are good. This is good codification. Thank you for doing that. And I like what you've got down here. So it flows better than just listing of things. >> So it's amazing. and and looking at, you know, the duties of the chair, some of them that stand out are um ensuring accountability, how is a board chair going to ensure accountability other than just saying, "Hey, stop doing that." Um if there's no if there's no backing
050from the board if there's no >> I don't know the word that I'm trying to think of, >> I guess. But if there's no teeth to it, there's no teeth to the position, then none of these things, none of these responsibilities, it's just a figurehead. And so, are we asking that of every chair to hold every board member accountable? >> Are we asking every chair to maintain decorum? Are we asking every chair to facilitate communication? And if we're asking that, then we have to expect that they can they can enforce >> if it's not if there's not a change. So, >> you got to have some kind of consequence. >> Correct. >> Reality. >> I I didn't want to use the word consequence, but yes, you do. I agree. >> You work with kids. >>
051Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, >> Yeah. Well, as an as administrator, you you need to keep your teachers, >> you know, uh you know, going the right way. You know, you got to lead lead by example first, but also you need to, you know, be able to >> at you. >> And just just our position as human beings, we're always on a constant learning curve. Absolutely. >> We can always get better, >> but we have to start somewhere, >> but this really helps. That's what policy is about. It gives you a guideline of what to do. >> Okay. >> The other question I had was under the agenda planning. I know at the last meeting um we it said that the chairperson um has the ability to place items on either a monthly board meeting, agenda,
052review meeting, or assign items to committees as defined in policy. Um I did we I recall we did not add that part to the other. Should we take that out of this if we didn't have it to the other policy? Just so there's that consistency. >> I'm sorry. Where's that? >> I can't remember which policy it was. >> It's right here. >> Diversity, but then it was also in um >> Yep. >> in last week's meeting when we when we were talking about the changes um and we didn't support that. So, putting that forward I think would be kind of counterproductive and it would Mike would get sent back to us, right? Um, so if we want to get this passed, I would say we should remove, right? >> So I would make a motion
053to remove um under >> uh A1D, right? >> Um the or assign items to committees as defined in policy. >> And thanks for catching that. You're welcome. >> Yep. I'll second that. >> All right. >> Okay. All right. So, first we'll discuss any further discussion on on removing that section for D. >> No, that makes sense. I'm glad you caught it. Had the policy meeting with the policy. >> Okay. Uh, all in favor of removing the everything after ability to place items on the monthly board meeting. Uh, all in favor of removing all the rest of the words indeed, please signify by saying I. >> I. All opposed. Pass 30. I will make a motion that we push 2210 as revised onto the full board. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I think we
054discussed already. Okay. All right. Well, that'll that'll kind of Let's go on to since we have it on here. Let's go on to 2120. Again, we have uh Mr. Perry's proposal there. I don't know that without moving the other things because basically what he's doing is he's adding this in here and you know we could have it here and there. I mean there's nothing that says we can't have it in two different places. Um you know that way there it has the board has the um what what you know what are your thoughts on that? basically the same same wording under B consequences of violating the code of ethics. In the event the chairperson or majority of other members of the of the board believes that any board member has violated the board member code
055of ethics 2120 and or board norms the chaired person or the majority of the board may afford the board member an opportunity to make it pop you know so do I guess my question is do we need it in two places uh but you know we do have on the bottom you know the part that Mr. Perry added, "Before such disciplinary action is taken, the affected board member shall have the right to request an impartial and fair hearing." And I'm going to ask our attorney, is that do we have that already? I mean, is does he have that? Does any board member have the right to ask for that? >> We've always given you've always given people the right to be heard on things. I guess the concern I would have is that you don't
056want to turn something like that into um a redo of the Microsoft antitrust litigation. You know, you don't want it to be um something that takes years and years and years to to deal with, >> right? Also have attorney, you know, nothing against attorneys, but having, you know, our attorney and you know, they it could be very costly, >> right? And it's it's um looking forward at what happens there, it it is always going to break down and devolve into an argument about what is fair and impartial. Um if you wanted to change that word to, you know, >> be provided an opportunity to be heard, um >> you know, that that would be slightly different, but that's what we do already anyway. Right. Right. >> Um and I We had had some concerns about
057the Roberts, some issues raised about the Robert's rules, things about it. There are substantial differences between, and by the way, Robert's rules are not substantive rules. They're just a way to run a a meeting >> guidelines, >> but there are places where it's clear that Robert's rules, the procedures that they would suggest conflict with what you're allowed to do. Robert's rules, for example, says that you're supposed to talk about those things enclosed in an executive session. You're not. We can't do that. Um, Robert's rules say that members of the executive committee are supposed to discuss them privately with the the the accused if you we can't do that. Um, Robert's rules suggest that the the members should recuse or indicate the members should recuse from voting. Well, you've got a common law duty to vote
058on things. So I mean those are just some examples of it but anytime you're giving someone telling them like we've done at these meetings where the individual members express these are my concerns and then the person is given an opportunity to be heard that >> Mhm. >> that's all the process is due under the circumstance you know that's appropriate for the for the circumstance. >> You're not chopping off their hand or anything. You're just >> telling them we we you know disapprove of your conduct. And if I'm not incorrect, I think Robert Schules also says that, you know, the chair could have someone, you know, a board member removed and you can't we can't of course do that either. >> Right. >> In fact, that's the first choice for somebody being rude in the meeting.
059>> Right. Right. Right. So, um, so I guess, you know, we have two things to think about with this uh 2230. One, do we want the section in there at all? And two, do we want it worded as as you know now as 2230 does not have it in there? But I mean 20 I'm sorry I'm getting ahead of myself. >> You're talking about >> uh 21 2120. Um but that's you know that that section is not in there at all as we speak now. Mr. Perry is just making a recommendation we add uh that section in um B. So we can either add it in or not add it in. And then if we do add it in, we can add it in as written or we can change like maybe take that last
060sentence out. But that's up to Miss Mason. >> Um not that I want to be on social media, but I am on social media. Um and even before I was on the board, I remember the disciplinary things and the the meetings that were extra. um the public sees it as a circus. >> And if we have every single board member who um I I I think that everybody should have the right to defend themselves. Absolutely. Do we need to have a hearing for every single disciplinary measure? I think that would be excessive um and embarrassing >> for the district. Let's be honest because it doesn't make us look like we know what we're doing. And not only that, >> what are we doing here? >> Thank you. >> What are we doing here? Are we
061here to um police each other? Are we here to or are we here to to make our schools better? Are we here to take care of our kids, to take care of the the budget issues that we have? What is our purpose? And is a hearing going to fulfill that purpose? So would you make a motion or recommendation to do anything with section B like leave maybe delete section you know we don't not delete just not not add just not add in section B >> I'll make a motion to not add >> I'll second that >> section >> I'll second that >> discussion sort of had a front end discussion about it but um >> yep all right >> I agree we got to focus on why we're here >> and not the drama that
062some people might want and I'm not sure what their reasoning is to it, but it definitely distracts from our main goals and purposes. Um, I think we have an awful lot of rights. Anybody can abuse anything. I'm sure somebody could figure some way around and make things even worse if they really wanted to, but that's not what we're doing. And we Yeah, I I don't think we need to add even more bureaucracy. People complain about that, too. Isn't it amazing how that works? More bureaucracy and rules. and we already have it pretty well covered. If you know if you have a concern, we just went through a couple of those processes. >> I hope you don't go through anymore. >> Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with you 100%. I think we all agree
063with that. >> Yeah. >> All right. We have a motion and second not to make any changes to policy 2120. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Okay. So, that will not be brought to the board because we're not making any changes. Now we're on 2230 and that was the one. Mr. Justice, you had mentioned about the 30day process. Uh that's one option or let me see where we got that. >> Mr. Lavore, can we cover all the ones that do need to change because there was more than just title N that was reduced from our list. Um and because there's going to be a lot of edits when it comes to this as far as what committees we still have and we consolidated and we removed some committees. We didn't
064get them off of the policy quite yet. So, there's um >> Can Do you want me to go? >> Yeah. Would you go ahead? >> So, um on page 46, I think it's the same as everybody else. So, the first page, finance committee is now finance, bond, and capital. Um so, we would need to change that. >> Okay. So, so what we're going to go through now and maybe we can get this done today and get these changes made. >> Yes, that's the hope. Um >> so yeah number one >> number one we changed from finance to finance bond and capital joint committee I believe was the term >> um >> we also changed the >> to three committee members >> was it three oh I missed that one too >> committee is composed of
065a minimum of well I guess but it now it's three >> a minimum of two so it doesn't say >> yeah so we can have I I don't know if we need do do you think we need to change that? Well, not necessarily because Oh, didn't didn't the legislative get added into that, too? >> No, legislative. Um, >> I thought that went in there. They were recon. We made some changes of the frequency of meeting, but I don't believe we made any changes to the structure of the committee from what I recall. So, finance, bond, capital, and then on the second page of that policy, um, number four, we, uh, eliminated the safety committees, >> right? Um, number, let's see, letter B, we have the title nine. Um, and then, >> okay, which one? Sorry,
066I just got lost for a second while I was doing something. >> Nope, you're good. If I'm going too fast, please just tell me. >> Yes. So, page two were board advisory committees. >> Yes. It's already deleted off of the title N committee is already deleted off of there. >> But then we also have down the way the um curriculum committee has changed. I don't think we've >> Yes. So continuing on, if you look at the So we have the advisory committees, there's no changes to um advisory council for exceptional students calendar committee. Well, calendar committee there is not either. And then um CTE. There's no change to any of those. Turning that page. Going to curriculum. Are you still with us, Miss Justin? >> Okay. >> Number four. Um we did change the number
067of board members to three. Um we I think it was two to three I think is was the exact verbage that we had voted on. >> Okay. Here's >> here's what I remember. We actually and it's on it's on video. We actually voted as a group to have two members. Originally you two years ago three years ago three years ago there was one member. Two years ago you there when before I was that gap when I was on the board you added two or three more members >> on the curriculum committee. >> I don't think so. >> Okay. So that's right. It didn't meet. There was I there was one member. It didn't meet. Then now we had this discussion this year about adding members and we took a vote and it was only two.
068I don't know why, >> but was it two additional members? Because that's from what I recall. I think we probably have to go back and listen. >> Let's look at Let's look at that to make sure. >> We remember when we voted on that cuz we did I know we did committees over several um meetings. >> Okay. Where are we now? It might have been in April or March, but we do need cuz my recul recula now I'm having problems with words >> subsistence >> recollection >> my remembering was that we didn't add to we just decided on to. So we need to figure that out before cuz we voted on it. Make sure we follow whatever the vote was. >> And I'm fine with going back and and checking that. >> Let's leave that
069and we'll put a question mark in that. Okay. >> Can I ask you please? So, we'll we'll hold just to move forward. I'm going to make a motion to hold this in policy until we get the answer to that. >> There's there's one more. >> There is one more. >> Um all the way all the way down to number 10, the turnaround task force. They have >> since um left us. >> I guess they're doing their own thing. They're not called turnaround task force anymore. Um so, we need to um remove them >> from that. So as far as committees go, those are all the committees that we had changes for and Miss Kadetsky I can share those with you too. >> And then we have to discuss Mr. Perry's section G here which is
070committee assignment process. Once a chairperson ch once a chairperson has been elected pursuant to policy 2220 uh 2200 excuse me there shall be a respons they shall be responsible for assigning chair and committee chairs to all existing standing committees and existing ad hoc committees assigning board members to all advisory committees and outside committees. These committee assignments shall be finalized no later than the first regular board meeting following the chair versus election. Written notes shall be given to all written board members and the public uh at time of finalization. The board members who are appointed shall remain chairs and committee members of the committees they're appointed to for the remainder of the chairperson's term unless the board member resigns from the position membership on that committee. Two, the committee has been eliminated or it board member
071membership has been reduced by action of the school board or governing authority outside the committee. The board member has been disciplined for violation of code of ethics pursuant to the uh pursuit procedures outlined in 2020. During the chairperson's term, a a new standing committee or adopt committee is removed is approved, excuse me, by the school board. Or if any person reasoned chair or member vacancy on a committee needs to be filled, the chair person shall fill these vacancies by appointing board members to them within 30 days from the beginning of the vacancy. Such appointments shall be for the remainder of the chairperson's term save for the exceptions outlined above this paragraph. So thoughts on that? >> That was all Mr. Perry's additions. Yes. Um, I guess we should go ahead and uh move have a
072motion so we can discuss it properly instead of discussing it up front. Should we do that? >> Well, I don't want to be the one that moves it though, so I'm sorry. >> Sorry. >> Well, if we if we have no motion, then we don't need to discuss it. >> There you go. >> That'll work. So, it won't be 72 hours. I promise. >> 36. Yeah. Cutting it in half. >> Cutting it in half. I did like the 30-day finger, but we could add that later on to the duties of the chairperson. So, >> which would make it more in one spot and less cumbersome. >> Well, I think that there was a start of a motion earlier. So, I would make a motion that we hold this in committee >> for multiple reasons. Um
073to to check on the committee assignment things and um >> not assignment, the committee the curriculum committee, right? Um and then >> we further discuss >> further discuss the the process. >> All right. So there's a motion to hold policy back to the top again. >> 2230. >> Yeah. She said 2230 uh until our September meeting. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. All any other discussion? All in favor of holding 2230 to our September meeting, please signify by saying I. >> I. Any oppose? Passes three. >> Oh, here comes a third one. >> Multiple. Multiple. All right, carrying on. All right, this is another big topic. Okay, I'm looking over here. >> All right, here we go. And here we go. All right, you missed all the little things here. All right, wireless
074communication. We have a lot of changes here. So, I'm going to turn it over to Miss Brenson. Let her kind of walk us through it. Miss Brenson. So it looks like a lot, but actually it's not really. We policy was really good and close to what the statute said to begin with, but I kind of wanted the terminology to match what was in the the state statute. So um we basically put on turned on versus activated. Um and then I used the definition that the statute has versus what our definition was. We're matching completely. do want to add there we did add to their and the statute says including the following cellular tablet laptop paging devices and gaming devices smartwatches because that's another issue um that the board needs to consider >> um >> smart
075>> yep I had to go there >> so so we did add that that is another um device that wasn't in there and then when the authorized use again took it specifically out of what the state statute has as far as when students are allowed to use and basically authorized by the teacher required for the IEP or 504 and then student health concern. So that again is very matching what's in there under the consequences. This is where um the decision you need to make is the board needs to make. We did have teachers and school administrators may immediately confiscate any wireless communication devices that are on used, displayed, or visible violations of the policy. So my question is, is that something you guys want to leave? As far as it talks about teachers and school
076administrators taking it right away, do you want there to be um in our student um handbook there's like a a range of consequences that could use? So you need to decide whether you want that one to be there specifically stated out or you want to use the what's in the code of hand code of conduct book which is talks about a range of consequences and since we have a school administrator you know it's coming to you uh what are your thoughts >> so it's a question whether or not a teacher can take it or an administrator or >> both that piece of it and then whether you want it to specifically say that it should be confiscated or you'll follow the the student code of conduct with a range of consequences. >> Um I think
077following the student code of conduct needs to stay there and I also think that the nearest uh supervising adult should be allowed to intervene. So if that's a teacher um we don't always have an administrator in every situation. So teacher administrator >> I really rather not turn our administrators into sort of the cell phone police either. So I think a responsible adult should be able to confiscate the device but I think then it needs to go to a central location after that. I don't want them in a teacher's desk or they all need to funnel to the same place. But I think if you allowed to the student conduct when I was a principal, if I took your phone and I kept taking it, that sort of leveraged into non-compliance versus a phone thing after
078a while cuz now I'm telling you and now you're ignoring me. So it sort of the code of conduct is strict. It has some things in there like that. But this is going to be a learning curve for especially our traditional high schools especially. So, we're going to wait to put out messaging until we had a chance to talk with you guys. But I think that it should be any responsible adult. >> Mhm. >> And then, but then we need to put in some procedures after that. What happens? >> And and I thinking about the big picture, you know, it has to always be the principal or assistant principal. Then it becomes, okay, well, you know, the child's got it here and I got to wait 20 minutes for that administrator because maybe they're doing
079evaluation or something, you know. So, that would be a mess, I think. So, Miss Justice, you had your hand up. Well, I remember what smartphone [Music] I um I got to have office. Now, this is part of the classroom. Um, and then there's also things I noticed on this. Um, I know some teachers use catties. How does that fit into the teachers here in this district use caddy? There are some teachers that use a lot of what you see is these shoe holder sort of scenarios. >> And so many of our teachers or many of our schools have already created provisions for this. >> So, um this may not be necessary if it has to be off and stowed anyway. >> Then you may not need the shoe caddy anymore, I think. Um because why
080would you take it out of your bag and put it in there if it's already off and stowed? problem with it. >> But I think the the devil's in the details a little bit. A lot of this is going to come down to enforcement of said. >> Absolutely. >> Now, I will tell you that all of our middle schools are already sort of devising something like very similar to this already. I do not see cell phones in middle schools almost anytime I go. Um, high school is sometimes a different animal, but once we get established that this is the way it rolls, I don't think it's going to be that much of an issue. >> Miss M. >> Well, I was make a motion so that we could have discussion, but we're having discussion. >>
081So, um, I'll make a motion to move this on to the board. >> I'll second. >> Um, >> and then if I could comment. Go ahead. Um, so I keep hearing that it kind of comes down to the school itself and how the school is implementing it. So I guess my question is um, as far as disciplinary, should we add a part that enables the admin of the school to determine the protocol and the procedures? Is there a different procedure depending on the school? Because I know every school I've visited, which I haven't been to all of them, I'm sorry. Um, but every school I've visited has a different environment. It's a different culture. It's a different and the the admin at each one runs things in a very different manner. Do we um enable
082our our admin to function and to figure out their own protocol or do we set the protocol I guess is my question. >> Go ahead. Well, this is part of this is coming out in the law. So, we got to follow certain guardians. I guess that's part of the discussion for sure. Um, and believe it or not, administrators from school to school, it's pretty similar the whole experience because you got kids wanting to use the phone all day long. Any opportunity they get in the wrong ways, right? Um, and it's such a huge distraction and causes so many issues. So this is a very big deal to separate our kids as opposed to being class. >> I was going to bring up two real important part points because a lot of people talk about what
083about a child that has a medical need for it that's addressed in here as well as an emergency situation as well as you know if they have it in their 504 their IEP. So, I think that's important. I do want to take just a second to mention um you know, and this is not something that we're going to do with this policy, but there is a um a a resolution that we may want to look at down the road uh that one of the board members sent to I think all of us from Burke County that talks about a resolution encouraging balanced instruction through reduced screen time. So, basically the same idea. I think that's uh something we all need to look at for the future. But we do have a motion and a second
084to move this on to the full board. Is there any further discussion? >> Yes, sir. You can discuss away. >> Um, we're actually meeting with the high school and middle school principles Thursday um to talk about sort of the communication to this to families and parents. I would almost wonder if we don't need to take it a swing at a pitch that hasn't been thrown yet. we can make the we can make the the overall policy establish and and guide with what the general statute is and then as we go into the school year if we find that it's not falling into compliance as well in some areas we can always tweak it. >> Um I like Miss Mason's statement that maybe we need to let the administrators have as much sort of flexibility of
085control as they can because you're right you know your building best. However, as long as they're complying with the overall general statute, I think, you know, that's once the rule is the rule, I think we're going to find that that's not going to be as big of an issue as we want. So, what we could do is is give it a month or two and see what it feels like and then recon whether or not it needs further tweaking. What do you guys think? >> Tweaking first. Um, I just wanted to add in to kind of answer Miss Mason's question. The range of consequences that principles or other administrators use when determining a disciplinary consequence for an infraction um, gives them the leeway to determine developmental a developmentally appropriate response and also the culpability of
086the student. So, was the student intending to be non-compliant? Was there an accident involved? Is there a developmental approach that needs to be taken? And also that range of consequences is a gradual increase in response. So starting with what the administrator feels is appropriate whether it's a parent conference or whether there's you know some other um cost response and that is appropriate. I also want to say that the thing that we see very different across schools is when you see administrators have a relationship with kids and that's going to be the most powerful impact on compliance especially in this area. Very good. >> We will be putting out messaging to parents as well um that the phones are not being taken from the student. They will be there. They will be there for an emergency
087but off and bestowed during instructional time. I think your point is very important because otherwise you end up having you know okay I put the phone on the desk and the phone's not the desk anymore then all a sudden teachers you know well you're in trouble for it and all that kind of stuff which obviously they're not in trouble for but you know better if we had a that centralized but that's more of a protocol thing so >> yes ma'am >> yeah and I just wanted to say something from this believe it or not students perspective uh I have had a middle school he's about to go to ninth grade middle school student and he was in Holly Tree and they weren't allowed to use the home for a couple years now. It's been like
088that. He loved it. They go they talk to each other at lunch. >> They talk to each other. Yeah. >> Yeah. They didn't have to fight with teachers about who's hiding the phone, who's doing this, that, and the other. And he actually mentioned to me, I think the last month of school, I think they let him use it for a change. And he was going, "This is really strange." And uh I think I I think it just shows that the kids really, you know, it's a it's a plus that they're aware enough to know that the phone is not their best friend. and they really like the natural environment. I just want to speak to the kids when they once they get into it, they like it that way. >> Well, I think something you
089said really makes a lot of sense and something we're starting to lose is what we're doing right now is talking to each other instead of, you know, I I I always tell the story about my family. We I wanted to watch a baseball game and of course I was outvoted by my family and not watch a baseball game because we had to watch something else. So, they're all watching something else and every one of them is doing this >> and I'm like, "No, why can't I watch my baseball anyway?" So, let's hear for baseball games. We have a motion and a second in front of us to move this on to the whole board as uh changed here. Uh all in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. All opposed. Passes 304318 going on
090to the full board as amended. All right. We have several of these uh next ones, but we do the board did instruct us to go through them, so we're going to do that. Um the big change in 1720 is the word biological sex. We already discussed that. So um I would entertain a motion to um not change 1720. >> I so move that we not change. >> Okay, I'll second that. >> Okay. >> Uh all f any discussion? >> I think we discussed it earlier. >> Yeah. Well, I mean that's what we did. So all in favor of keeping 17, 20, 40, 30, and 7235 as is, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Very good. >> 300. >> All right. So again, that will not go to the board because we're not changing
091anything. Uh carrying on 5240. Uh again, um because of House Bill 805 805, we do we want to change uh that or do we want to keep it as is? Okay, hold on. It's 5240, >> right? 5240. And again, the change here is biological sex. >> Um, leave it. I I'm so move I move that we don't change it and you leave it as it is. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Just to change things up. Okay. All in favor of leaving 5240 as is, please signify by saying I. >> I. All oppose like sign. that will not go anywhere because this doesn't be changed. All right. 6220 operation of school nutrition >> uh services again um because of HB uh 805 which has uh biological sex. >> Do we want to leave that
092alone or do we want to change that? Look at me. I'm going light speed. >> Where I know it's in here. >> What page are we on, sir? >> Come on. >> Wow. Come on. You got to keep up with me now. I know I'm moving. >> 76. Page. >> I got the 76. Where's the biological sex? What am I missing? >> Page 77. Halfway down. >> Oh, well, >> see, if you put it in your computer, it comes right up. It's red. >> Oh, they did it. Okay. >> Section one. >> School officials may not discriminate on race, biological sex. Okay. So, M. Justice. >> I move that we leave it as it is. >> All right. I'll second that. All in favor of leaving 6220 as is, please signify by saying I. >>
093I. All oppose. >> Carries. 30. And I think last. No. Yes. Last but not least for this one. My goodness gracious. Miss Justice, you you excited about having to sleep over here? I don't know. All right. uh gifts and bequests. All right. And again, I believe this is the same thing. According to my notes, policies included for purposes of discussion for the recent general assembly house bill 805, which looks about biological sex. I entertain a motion. >> Um I >> Oh, there you go. >> Oh, never mind. You know what my Never mind. I I move that we leave it as it is. >> All right. Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of leaving 8220 gifts and requests as is, please signify by saying I.
094>> I. >> All oppose. All right. Wow. We're not here all night. Thank God. >> All right. Um, >> Mr. Wilder, I'm sorry. Did you do policy 1310, parental involvement? >> I may have skipped one. You did. I did. What in the world? >> That's it. >> You know what paid? >> I'm in trouble. >> Writing a bellow. Okay. >> Thank you, Miss Bronson, for keeping me straight. It's a hard job. >> All right. All right. So, let me see. I got on my notes here. I don't know how this get 10. >> Uh, page 63, please. >> Page 63. Second verse, same as the first. >> Yeah, I believe we have Yep. We have biological sex and DD >> twice. Biological >> school system does not discriminate on basis of race, color, national origin,
095biological sex >> twice in one period. >> I'd entertain a motion. >> There you go. I move that we leave this policy 1310 422 002 as is. >> Okay, I'll second that. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. All oppose like sign. Passes 30. I'm glad somebody was I was I was seeing if you were paying attention, so I appreciate that. Thank you. >> All right. I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. Uh >> well, I'm all right. No, we're not journing. >> All right. Motion to adjurnn. Is there a second? >> Second. >> All right. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> All oppose. No. I like it so much. >> I almost did. >> Somebody was trying to tell us something. So,
096>> all right. That passes two to one. We are ajourned. Thank you all. >> Wow. Good.