001Mr. Wterborg, Miss Justice here, Mr. Perry, I'm sure he'll be coming in just a moment. Uh, let's see. Our next thing on our order is a pledge of allegiance. Miss Justice, would you lead us in the fight, please? To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And our invocation today will be given by Chaplain Georgiana Pikney of the Lower Cape Pier Life Care Hospice. Good morning. My name is Geanna Pinkney. I'm a chaplain with Lower Capefir Life Care. I am grateful for the ask to pray for the leaders of our community today. Let us pray. Gracious and loving Lord, we thank you for this day, the giver of all things that are good and worthy.
002We thank you for our many blessings, not just for ourselves, but for our schools and community. We thank you for the abundance of successful outcomes and school events and for the staff of New Hover County. We ask for the blessing of discernment as we continue to seek wisdom, strength, and courage in all of the planning we do today. Guide our thoughts and deliberations and allow us to make conscientious decisions for the good of those who have confidence in our leadership and put their trust in us. We ask Lord God for the insight to lead with integrity to reflect what is good and right for the community we serve without self-interest but with fairness and integrity. Lastly, Lord, help us to have compassion in our hearts and may our actions reflect your values of service and
003justice. We pray that by working together we have a united purpose and create a positive learning environment for all. We ask this in your holy name. Amen. Amen. And I want to thank everybody for being here today. We do have a lot of um policies to get through, but uh and they all come to us from the NCSBA. Um but we have a lot a lot of those um also are just one word something in a cross reference or something like that. So, uh some of them are pretty substantial, others not so substantial. So, my thought is well, let's let's go ahead and go forth. Um, I will make a motion to approve the agenda. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. All in favor, please. Any discussion? All in favor, please signify by saying
004I. I. I. All oppose. Okay, that passes 20. We will carry on. Approval of the minutes. I'll make a motion we approve the minutes as stated. Second. Okay. Any discussion? None. Hearing none. We will carry on. Uh, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. again passes to zero. All right, let's go ahead and roll up our sleeves and get right into it. Um, why why don't we use this sheet here and we'll kind of go through this one here and you know that kind of thing. Um, and I think most of these we can just move on to the board, but blowing up my phone. Oh, Dr. Barnes will be here in about 10 minutes. So, I'll talk really slow. No. Um first we have 1310. We'll go through each one of
005these and again if there's any discussion or anything um we can just moving on. The two changes there were three H and DD H three and again everything is highlighted in the red. Oh yeah already. What page are you on, sir? Because I've got all these pages with one or Oh, you're doing that one. Okay. 28. 28. Thank you. I Thank you. That's takes a lot of time. Yeah, DD is on the last page is on eight. Well, eight or 15 on this. And it says um deleted the word that deleted the word provides. and it has a whole bunch of uh additional um bases of sex title nine sexual harassment prohibited conduct and reporting process and Mr. Willard. Yes, ma'am. Um according to this, not the one bottom of ours, but uh what page
006are you on then? Page. No, he has his his own mine. I'm on page of of the particular policy DD was on page um eight. Okay. Yeah, eight. Sorry about that. They got all kinds of different things flying around here and lots of red marks. Eight. Yeah. Some of some of them have, you know, a lot of changes. This one doesn't have quite as many changes. Let's see if I can find the other three. 28. Yeah. So, I'll Is there any discussion on it? If not, we can I'll make a motion we move policy 1310 on to the full board. Uh second. Okay. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Okay. Passes two zero. That would be with the amendments. So 1310. All right. School safety. Right. Next one I have is
0071510. Mhm. School safety. Changes there are C5 and six. So we have just some min minor changes there. Thank God. Uh, principal supervisor must notify the superintendent immediately of unsanitary conditions or repairs needed to meet safety standards. That's pretty straightforward. I will make a motion. And there's again some changes in um section six. It says, you know, sexual harassment um prohibited conduct and reporting process, sexual harassment, grievance process, etc. Mhm. I'll make a motion we pass 1510 on to the full board. I second that motion. Okay. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Boy, this is going to be easy day. All right. Carrying on 1710. This one's got a lot of changes in it. This is on Yeah. Okay. I guess there's page 45. All right. Yeah. Yeah. This is the
008one that was really surprising. I mean, just all the Yeah. Somebody was having fun. Okay. Anything you like to discuss? Um, no. Would you like to make a I I move that we pass policy 1710 as written from the school board association. It's actually several of them on there. 40 20 7230. Okay. And I will second that. Okay. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Wow. Okay, this is easy process here today. I like it. Yes. All right. 1720 is next on my list. Title N. And uh let's see BC and some changes in section B, section. So much of this is grammatical error. Section C just cross reference and then some cross reference. I'll make a motion we carry 1720 onto the full board. I second that motion. Okay. All in
009favor please signify by saying I I I oppose. Okay. Oh, this might be a fast meeting. Well, so much as I mean parent did I don't Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not substance as much as grammatic. I don't know. You have to be at legal ease to say whatever they're doing here. And and M. Blancher, if you see anything you you know that we need to stop on, please or anybody if you have anything you'd like to to add to, you know, to the discussion. Um 1725 is our next one. Title N, sexual harassment, prohibited conduct and reporting process. There's a whole new paragraph there. Um not meet the standard of sexual harassment by this policy. may nevertheless violate other board policies. So kind of just talks about that superintendent is responsible for ensuring the effective
010notice of this policy to students, parents, employees and applicants, sexual talks about what sexual assault is, date dating violence, domestic violence, stalking section is deleted. [Applause] I'll make a motion that we carry 17, 25, 40, 35, and 7236 onto the full board. I second that motion. Okay, first and second. Any other discussion? If not, we'll carry that onto the full board. Uh, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. Perry, welcome. Hey, apologize for my computer. That happens at times. We are carrying on. Just to let you know, we have a sheet that Madeski made for us that kind of talks about all the changes. And we're actually on seven. We're just going policy by policy. We're on let's see 701 871. Have we already passed the agenda? We have. Yes,
011we have. Oh, should I have added the other one? Now I'm feeling bad. The one that you were interested in. I had forgot all You can make We can do it the super majority which is already here. Yeah. Yeah, we can do that. Yeah. May I make a motion to add the uh which one? I sent 2330. Is that right? Okay, there's a motion. I'll second that. Okay. We're adding just adding just adding Yeah. to discussion to our discussion. Yeah. So 2330. Is that right? 2330. Yes. And do do you have a hard copy of that also? She does. You did wonderful. I can't even imagine this. Okay. All in favor of adding 2330 to today's agenda, please. See, please say sorry. 2330. I don't know. I just 23. All in favor of adding 2330
012into today's conversation, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. That passes 30. We will add that at the end of our discussion which is that uh we are on policy 1726. Uh 1725R I believe we're at. You are. Yeah. uh 70 17 25 40 35 72 36R word. Thank you, ma'am. And that basically just deletes that whole thing. So, I will make a motion that we I I guess we delete 70 1725R. So, that's why. Is there a second? Second. Any discussion? If not, all in favor of deleting 1725R, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. I guess that car is 30. What counted is 30? All right. Now we're on 1726. Mhm. What page is that? 71. 71. I'm just going off my computer. All right. 17 1726, second paragraph.
013uh adds the words for admission or and then there's a cross reference change or addition, excuse me. Great. All right. I'll make a motion we pass 17 26 40 36 7237 onto the full board. Is there a second? Okay. All right. Um what? Go ahead. Discussion. Go ahead. Seven is specific to do it, but it is awesome. Okay. All right. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of passing 1726 at all onto the full board, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. Passes 30. And we carry on. And we carry on. 1735. Okay. This is actually renaming this to 1735. That's part of it. Um it also is in section A. Uh changes title N sex to title line sexual harassment prohibited and reporting process deleting the words discrimination grievance process and
014biased. Is that biased? Yeah. Um based I'm sorry. Okay. doing. Uh, Miss Brson, what page are we on? 88. 88. Mhm. Big book today. Yeah, I'm all right. So, again, we're just adding those. 1735. Is there a motion to carry that on to the full board? Motion. Thank you. I'll second that. Any discussion? Yes, sir. What's the changes? Why are we getting rid of uh the changes? Again, this this all came from uh NCSBA. Just a couple little things. It's uh adding 1735 as the policy number. Uh then we're changing the word title n sex to sit sexual harassment. uh and adding the words reporting process. This is in the relationship to other policy. And they're literally just a couple words. Yeah. I think they're actually like on page 91 for example, they're changing the
015word sexual harassment to sex harassment, which actually is more accurate. Somebody was harassment is a form of discrimination. So it doesn't it doesn't have to be motivated by you know a a a sexual interest. It could be motivated by sex. Okay. Thank you. All right. So we are on 1735. We have a motion and a second. Is there any other discussion? If not, all in favor please sign uh signify by saying I. I passes 30. This one's funny. All right. Next policy in for us is 2302. 2302 remote participation. Again, not a whole bunch of change here. I got uh 234 section 7 and section 9. Yeah, it's just mainly saying that deal roll call. That's the only way you can vote in this, right? And it deletes the votes will be by voice vote
016rather than show of hands. Yep. So I I move that we pass this. Okay. I'll second it. Um there was Miss Mason just uh texted in. Uh make sure you press your button and she can't hear you. Oh, she must be listening. Yeah, she's listening. Yeah, that's a good indication. It says green. So just green. No, it's Norwoods. Oh, sorry. Okay. Um, can you hear me now? Can you Can you hear me now? Um, what are we we are deleting? Um, well, between seven and eight, we're deleting the words. All votes will be by voice vote rather than a show of hands. trying to make sure that there's and all votes will be taken by roll call is added. Okay. And and is this the remote participation? Uh cuz right now are we if I
017understand the policy of the president is that that at least that we're going by if somebody's not allowed to call in remotely even if they have a good excuse and actually vote. Right. Well, this is only if you look at section one, it's state declared emergency only. Yeah. Right. So, if the governor says we're in, you know, not that I like the other policy either. If we I think if you have a legitimate excuse not to be here, then I think you should be able to participate Molly. But that's another a thing for another day. Exactly. Okay. Anything else for 2302? No. I move that we pass it. And I'll second that. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All right. 22 2302 goes on to the full board. All right. 2342
018is next. Voting methods. And again, you can see there in the beginning we're deleting the word however. I'm putting in the word but. Deleting in another event. I'm getting buzzed again. Mics are good now. Okay, there. Mics are good now. Thank you, Miss Mason. Voice from mine. All right. All right. And then written ballots may not be used for remote meetings held during state declared emergency. So pretty straightforward. Uh I'll make a motion that we pass 2342 on to full board. Is there a second? I second. Okay. Any discussion? If not, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. Again, passes 30. All right. Next, I have the 20. No. 3225 and section B3 is what I have highlighted 20 2342. Sorry, we've already done that one. Let me get on
019then to the next section. All right, then we are on to Okay. So, now we're on 3225. Yep. And this has to do with technology responsible use. Yeah. And we have a new section added. School system Wi-Fi hotspots and or services may be used off school system property only by students and school staff members who need them. Such use must be primarily for activities that are integral, immediate, and approximate to the education of students. I'll second that for purposes of discussion. Okay. Well, I'll make a motion. You can make the motion. I I'll second that. Okay. Uh go ahead. Discussion. Yes. So, are we talking about all Wi-Fi hotspots? I mean, a lot of places have some public hotspots just for perhaps at a football stadium or, you know, an auditorium or something that's usually
020for the public and then we have a separate one that we have for employees only or for children. Is this supposed to be for all or just some? This is for like personal hotspots that you would actually check out. It's actually individual for on buses and other things. We don't have these. We had them during COVID. We don't have them now, but it's basically my fives. One kid doesn't have internet access at home or a teacher, they're able to check it out to use it at home. That's very cool. Okay. So, this would place no restriction on not having a a And do we need some better language to It just says all the way seeming it's not it's basically all Wi-Fi hotspots run by the school system. If do we have any that we
021open up to the public for say at football stadiums etc.? No, we do not. We do not do public Wi-Fi at all. Okay. Not that I think that would be a terrible idea to help parents. We have to make sure the internet that we provide is funded through and for that it has to be for the purposes of instruction. So we can't just have wide open Wi-Fi to be used for streaming movies or whatever the case may be. So this is hotspots. So this is they're talking about just the little small little hotspots, the Wi-Fi kind of things that you get. That's all that this one is talking about. This is not Yeah. So we're not talking about if we would at this point it wouldn't prohibit us from opening one in a stadium at
022the moment. No, it would not. Okay. All right. All we have first and second. All in favor of 20 3225 being sent on to the full board to signify by saying I. I. All oppose. Pass 30. Next we have 3,400. Page. 3400. Thank you so much. Okay. And page two on this. It's got a whole bunch of the following letter grades may also be used when applicable. FF is for student who does not have a passing grade based on content also has been absent for at least 10% of the class classes for the course complete pass withdraw uh passing may courses and CPM and then legal references on the bottom there state board of education policy. Is there a motion to pass this on to the full board? This is state law. Yes. his uh
023state board of education policy a policy walk over. Yeah. I so moved. Okay. And I'll second it. Discussion. Yeah. So this came from a new law or new state board of election policy. It if you look at the bottom state board of education policy grad-00009. When was that? Good question. Did not know that. Let's see if you click on it. How many of these I guess my other question were trying to get an answer to that is how many of these we currently using anyway or would these be new like FF in complete etc. Well, I'm sure there's there's I do not know anybody. I I'd like to probably I mean perhaps you could speak to it. Um Miss Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. Um this this grad policy was um copy I have in my hand
024was most is it was most recently revised just within the last few months. Oh okay. Um and we we have talked about this um before because we also changed some other policies based on this. I guess we had overlooked this one, but um it it was in the fall of 2024, I believe, that it was most recently passed that historically you could get an FF if you were passing the course, but because of absences, you um could not pass the class, but they've taken that away. And so now, if you are passing the class, regardless of your absences, um you have to have the grade. This is because somebody didn't want to somebody wants somebody to graduate uh for senior skip days for a week or two and and now we're required to pass them
025regardless. Well, if they're passing the class, they're passing the grade and they're passing the class. So now we can't function. Well, and this is state law, so we haven't got a lot to say. I know. I'm just trying to understand where it's coming from. And this grad policy also has where we can no longer give pass fail for uh graduation requirement courses which we had been doing during credit recovery but that's changing as of um the fall of this year. Let's do that. Oh so currently it's still available for currently pass fail will still be available for summer school credit recovery in high school but this will be the last summer that that's applicable. Oh then I would make a motion that we keep pass. They amend this the pass uh failed part. If we're
026going to continue to use it for summer school, we can pick it up later after the summer session is over. Do I have a second on that, Mr. Justice? Because we don't want to make take it out and then before if they're still going to be using it for the next Well, that's rational, but how do we do this legally? That that is state law. That's it. It says that it has to start in the fall in the 2526 school year. Oh, so we're okay. You could add that. You could add that caveat. Yeah. Begin. Maybe we could say beginning in the the dates the fall of 2025. Yeah. I think maybe on that red section there, the following letter grades may also be used as applicable after July or to say the beginning of
027the 2020. Yeah, that's what they said there was beginning of fall of 2025. after August school. I'm sorry. Would would that be Yeah. What what what are the dates? So maybe can we can change it and just add the following letter dates may also be used as applicable after beginning 2526 school year. Okay. Okay. That's my motto. I have a second. Okay. And I'll second that. So So we'll add those that caveat in there. So, uh, all so we have a first and second to make that. Let's let's vote on that first. Okay. All in favor of adding that caveat in, please signify by saying I. I. All opposed. That passes 300. Good catch. Now, u all in favor of passing 3400 as amended on to the full board. Please signify by saying I. I.
028I. Okay. You get that? Okay. Just make sure we're all on the same page. Carry on. Same page. Feels like we got a lot. 3420. 3420 is student motion and accountability and I had see 3420 is I a change. Yeah. all the way down the third paragraph under section I. And it's got exactly the wording we just said, believe it or not. Beginning with the 25 26 school year, students uh shall earn a numeric grade for credit recovery, which is exactly what we just said. Yay. uh which will be factored into pre-existing incomplete or fail or fail course grade on the students uh transcript to a degree proportional to the percentage of the course completed through credit recovery resulting in a new passing numeric grade for the course and it's got section several sections deleted
029there at the beginning of the course a course and the credit recovery will be graded as pass or fail and will not impact on the students grade point average. Mhm. So, so we're taking that out. Yeah, taking that's all deleted. So, we're heading that new paragraph I just read in. I'll make a motion we pass. Second. 3420 on. We have a second discussion. Mr. Perry, what why are we taking it out? Because the numeric grade was it was pass fail. Now now we're saying they get an A through an F. Why are we taking that out? We're not we're taking out the it says the paragraph before says a pre-assessment of students understanding of the course material. Oh, this is the new text at the beginning of course. Okay, I understand. Thank you. Okay. All
030right. All in favor of passing 3420 on to the full board, please signify by saying I. I. Passes 30. Carry on. Next we have 3620 extracurricular activities and student organizations. And the change here is number one. Oh, here it is. Deleting the word interclassic uh athletics. And then section A, student participating in interclassic uh athletics may enter an agreement to use the student's name, image, or likeness subject to the requirements of 16 NCAAC 6E 0211. Anybody have a question about that? Go ahead. Is this new law? Um, glad you It looks like a new admin code section has been adopted for this. I just want to just state for the record that what I've seen in collegiate athletics since they started paying players and has been very detrimental to student athleticism at the collegiate level.
031I don't want to see it happening here. You got people trans, you got students in colleges and universities staying one year, transferring somewhere else so they get get paid more NIL money with a transfer portal. That's ridiculous. Well, we can't even hire teachers. And and now we're talking about paying high school students. I mean, what happened to, you know, this is supposed to be amateur athletics, not Yeah. But we're not doing that. That's that wouldn't touch us. to uh to give you an idea. The new NIL regulation says that a student participating in athletics may enter into an agreement to use the students NIL subject to the following restrictions. The agreement shall not condition the receipt, type, or extent of compensation on performance. If the student's under 18, the parent or guardian must be a
032a party to the agreement. Um, the agreement shall hold the following parties harmless from any liability arising from the agreement. The governing body of the school system, um, any administering organization, that would be the North Carolina High School athletics, um, the state board of education, and the NIL agreement shall otherwise comply with state and federal law. So um there are other requirements but they are allowed. The NIL agreements cover public appearances or commercials, autograph signings, athletic camps and clinics, sales of nonfgeable tokens, and I still don't understand what an NFT is. Um product or service endorsements, promotional activities, including in-person events and any other commercial activities. So you can't u make any reference to your school in the NIL agreement activity. So you couldn't a student let's say a new handover county student could not
033um have an um NIL appearance wearing their Hogard football jersey. Um they they can't you know can't drag the school in it. Um, is this is this a requirement? These Well, I mean these are the or is this something that's voluntary that a that a school district could choose not to participate such a manner or required by the state to do this? It's my up to speed just okay. We're talking about policy uh 30 3620 and we're talking about the the new paragraph they put in here. Student participating in interplastic athletics may enter into agreement to use the students name, image or likeness subject to requirements of 16 NCAAC 6E 0211. So I what I think and Ashley you may correct me if I'm wrong. What I think this is is it used to be
034just pro ball players that would enter into a shoe agreement or whatever. Now college students and then there's a student at my son's college who had her own clothing line. I think you're probably seeing that go one step down. This reads to me that a student can market his name, you know, because now of course some kids go bro right out of high school. I think that's what that is. I just think this is I just think this is completely horrible. And if we have any way of not doing this, I would vote that we not do it. If we're required to by state law, then I guess we have to. But I I I can give you a little bit more guidance on that. Yes, sir. This comes from the state board of education's
035rules were adopted in response to a lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court um where Judge Graham Shirley found that the board of education um breached Senate Bill 452. Um, what happened was the North Carolina High School Athletics Association had transferred their the bill had transferred their regulatory authority over to the um, North Carolina Board of Education and um, Shirley found that the U board had been directed to regulate but not prohibit NIL deals. Um and the board apparently their first step had been to outright prohibit them. So he said, "No, you have to now come up with rules to regulate but not prohibit." So that's what this is. So that's where we get these rules here. Mr. Perry's question, you're saying that the judge rule that that you would have to This came out of
036a out of a lawsuit order. That's the the requirement for it. So the state board of education is issuing these rules, right? These are state board of ed rules. So we have but a judge is the one that that stirred them in that direction. But a judge is the one said you had to do this. So this is legal ease on more than one level. It's us, right? We're required to do it now by the state board of ed who was in turn required to do it by a superior court judge. So, so what this says is the individual, the child, the parents, whoever it is, has the right to do their thing, but they can't use any of our schools, any of our schools references in their whatever their their thing is, right? And
037there are some other limits. for example, they they can't uh endorse athletic I mean alcoholic products, cannabis, casinos or gambling, controlled substances, tobacco, opioids, weapons, um adult establishments, or any other activity or entertainment service that would um disrupt the operations of the school. Okay. Can they like besides them making money from third party endorsements, can they take like money from alumni or boosters of a particular high school? Come play for us. We'll give you a bunch of money. We have rules about intercolastic athletics, about transfers and and where kids go to school. So, you're not allowed to transfer for the sole reason of athletics. We actually heard people in the first session that last guess we have no choice but I just think this is completely horrible. Well, this is private individual rights as opposed
038to uh public schools the protection of the school district itself and they can't you can do both is what they're saying but you can't mix them. and and I don't know I don't think it's happened but my my niece um is going to play for the University of Georgia follow and there's a rule that says you can't contact them beyond a certain day or whatever she was having schools and people call her at 12:01 on the day they could dishing her now she wants to have a clothing line I don't see how that is if it's separate from the school I think that's a parental issue Mhm. would be I think why the ruling was probably where it was. Mhm. As long as it doesn't cross over to the school lines, you know, I think
039that's the most important piece. Yeah. You you you just came in, Dr. Barn, so the one thing that I was that before you came in that I had mentioned is is some of these and especially at the collegiate level where you've got this transfer portal, you got booster boosters paying players to play. I mean, we don't want to go there and hopefully could. That's my biggest concern with that, right? And luckily, we are ruled by the high school athletic association rules and our policies, so they shouldn't cross over. All right. So, we have policy 3620. Uh, I'll make a motion we pass that on to full board as amended. Is there a second? A second. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. That's 30. Carry on. Our next policy is 20. So it
040would be 40 40 23 pregnant and parenting students and employees. Uh changes to paragraph one, paragraph 4 D2. So we have uh adding the word false pregnancy in false pregnancy again false pregnancy again and uh deleting the words informed student and applicable if applicable students parents or guardians to provide the student and if applicable the students parents or guardians change on that. Oh, one more at the end there. Unless necessary, reasonable, and legally permissible, supporting documents or certifications will not be required. Okay. C substitute. I'm sorry. Um, after the birth of a employees child, the employee will provide a reasonable break time to express breast milk for the child or breastfeed as needed for at least one year after the child's birth. Okay. All that saying is there a motion to pass 4023 on to
041the full board. Motion second. Second. Okay. Second. Any discussion? What is the false pregnancy card? All the way back beginning. Um they're adding that correct. They're adding uh purposes of this policy. Pregnant or related conditions in pregnancy, child birth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or lactation, medical conditions related to pregnancy, child birth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or lactation or recovery from pregnancy, child birth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy, lactation or related medical conditions. That's notation. I'm just trying to understand where it's coming from. So affect it's not think it's it's an actual medical condition that mimics actual pregnancy and it's yeah it's very complex. Yeah. It's called pseudo it's called pseudocyis and it's uh the body does it yeah it mimics the the same symptoms of pregnancy. Learn something new every day. Yeah. All
042right, education here. I believe we did have a motion, a second to pass this on the full board. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. All opposed. This is again 30. Next we have 4040. Student staff relations. Page three, section D edition. All right. In accordance with section F of policy 7130, lensure administrators uh shall report to the state board of education, the local board of education, certain misconduct by licensed employees involving a student and resulting in termination. We're adding these words. Termination of employment, non-renewal of an employment, contract, suspension without pay. I we deleted just the word dismissal and then we have several things in the cross ref. We already do this. Um beyond that, you know, we already report those things to the state board anyway.
043And and isn't the word termination same as dismissal? That's just Yeah. Yeah. Nobody had fun with this. But we have been told that we over report anyway. So good. That's my opinion. Me too. I'm very happy about that. All that I'll make a motion we pass 40 407310 onto the full board. Is there a second? Second. Okay, whichever. Um, one question, Mr. P. Um, are we replacing without pay with are we replacing without dismissal with without pay? How is that exactly? I'm trying to just we're deleting the word dismissal in the first section anyway. And we're adding in the words termination of employment, non-renewal of employment contract, suspension. So that's the entire So we're kind of giving it more of a definition than just just dismissal. All right. Thank you. All right. All in favor,
044please signify by Did we do that right? I I No, we have. Now we have. Now we have. Okay. 4040 going on. Next we have 4240. child abuse and related threats to child safety. And I have uh 42 240 uh page 3 section D. There it is. There's the changes. In addition to other reporting requirements, the policy administrator shall report to the state board of education and local board of education search misconduct by licensed employees involving a child and resulting in termination of so basically the same kind of thing. Uh termination of employment non-renewal employment contract spent without pay and we're deleting the word dismissal. It's very much like the other one. Yeah, exactly. So, I'll make a motion we carry um 42407312 out of the full board. I second. Second. Any discussion? All in
045favor, please signify by saying I. I. All oppose. S 30. All right. Next, we jump all the way up to 6220, operation of school nutrition services. 220 A1 deleting the words including pregnancy, child birth, sexual orientation and gender identity uh under the first section. Uh just the word sex. And is that what we were talking about previously under other circumstances with other policies that our attorney explained to us that the word sex covers all of that? That's the reason they've changed it. I believe that's right. Okay. I believe this is tied to the other. I believe we clarified that the oper operative operative turning into policies into operationalizing policies. I would think that actually includes those. So we'll operate as if it does because that's what the fourth circuit has said. That's what we do.
046Okay. And I'll make a motion we carry 6220 on to the full board. Is there a second? I'll go ahead and second. Thanks. Might as well accept that we always take all day to make a I'd like to make an amendment to the Okay. I just say school officials school officials may not have to scream any for any reason. Uh period. Huh? Well, that's Let's get rid of all the labels. This is a school of nutrition. Obviously, we're going to give every kid a meal. Well, I would like to stick with the legal authorities because every time you include somebody, you leave somebody out. But I'm not that's not a in my opinion, I would like to leave it to the legal authorities to decide if what is that covers, which is what you're trying
047to do, but we want to do it right. Okay, we have amendment. Is there a second? Let's see if we have a second for that. So, basically to delete everything after discriminate for any reason. School officials may not discrimination may not discriminate on any for any reason. Is there a second to change it to that for under number one? Okay. So hearing none, we'll carry on with it as amended here. Uh school officials may not discriminate based on sex, color, national origin, etc., etc. Uh we have a we had a first and second to pass it as that way. Um all in favor please signify by saying I I I oppose. Defense is two to one. All right. Next we have 6330 insurance. see a change right at the beginning. No um school bus, activity
048bus, or other vehicle owned, leased, or rented by the school system. And it's all changed. You know, we're making it instead of school owned. We're just cleaning up the language, I guess, is what they That's good. That sounds about right. I think that way if we rent the bus to go somewhere, okay, we still have insurance on it. So it's not we're not in that gray area. Is that about right? Right. Thank you. Okay. I'll make a motion we carry 6330 on to the full board. Is your second? Second. Okay, Mr. Perry. Um I don't all favor carrying 6330 on to full board. Please signify by saying I. I. All oppose. Carries out. 30 7130 is the next one I have on my list. lensure. This just goes back to the reporting misconduct like we
049spoke about earlier in several other policies. If you look on page 145 on the bottom of the page, there you go. Yep. Yep. Same thing. Okay. Go again. So, we're replacing dismissal with a lot more words, which is just what I'll say is that the NS NCSBA is caught up to where we've been for the last two years. So, oh that's why we're getting all this stuff. Okay. I'll make a motion we carry 7130 on to the full board. I'll second it. Okay, we have first and second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All oppose. Again, passes 30. Um 7232 is our next one. Discrimination, harassment, basically deleting the whole thing. We're moving. Okay. What is it? Yep. The whole policy. 7232. I make a motion we
050delete 7220. Do we have any understanding why the NCBA is saying we should delete this policy? Oh, it's on our little sheet. Oh, sorry. I have another little sheet. Thank you. She She's on top of stuff like that. She always is. 72. Oh, so it's been moved to another section basically is what this is saying. Yeah. Refills this policy instead of now addresses the information the policy in policy 1710 discrimination harassment. So basically we have it but it's just being moved to a different Okay. That's fine by me. I just didn't want it to go away. Okay. And apparently just to be clear the direction is that we're taking existing policy and just carting it to a different area. Right. It's going to be no substantive changes in the policy that we've got now. Right.
051Okay, that's why if you remember we added 1710 on another place on 1710 obviously. So, okay. So, I I make a motion we delete policy 7232. I second. Okay. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. So, that will not answer the full board. Well, I guess we will. We have to get them to do it. I'm sorry. They do. All right. So, that's the whole policy. Next we have 13003 1300 governing principles. Um and I have here we need to check with our attorney. That's my my little note here. Does this all look good to you, sir? Which which one? 7. Is this page 158? If you say so. 150. I'm sorry. 1300. just it's just uh deleting the words discrimination and grievance procedures adding some policy changes. Sounds
052good to you, sir. I yes I think they were just changing the name of the policy to to I don't think there's any substantive changes other than what we've just covered earlier changing it to taking out the word sexual and changing it to sex which is a better way to okay to do it. Yes sir. Yeah I don't have any problems changing around a little bit but the one so with we we are so say for instance title n with taking out the sexual and just doing sex harassment. I'm really I'm not really No, it's it's changing timeline sex to sec timeline sexual harassment. I thought we wanted to get rid of sexual harassment because it's not all about that's how I read that because it's we're deleting discrimination. The point was is that it
053doesn't have to be, you know, anything romantically involved or anything like that. Um, if you look to below it, you know, it says, you know, it says uh title N sexual harassment and then to below it says title N sexual harassment grievance policy. So, I'd like to make a motion to table this to our next meeting. Maybe we get some more information on this cuz I I'm a little concerned about I I'll second that cuz I agree. Okay, it is a little confusing. All right, so we want to table 1300. Uh, all in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Okay, so we'll table 1300 for our next meeting. Probably the same goes for 1500. 1300. So our next policy would be 1500 first page. These are all the same when you go through that.
054The 1700 um these are clarifications. I'm not sure. Okay. I would like to make a motion to table 1500 and 1600 until our next meeting and that's not all. Well, there's if there's another one after that and 1700 1700 Y. Okay. Yeah. Good. Okay. Is there a second to table? I 1300. So, 1500,600 1700. I'll second that. Okay. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All opposed? Okay. table 13, 15, 16, and 1700 for our next policy meeting. And we are hoping to get more clarification. I need more statements. Okay. Next, we have um 13 uh 1742 responding to complaints. And 1742 A6 and the cross reference. A6 has sexual harassment reporting process 17 26 title nine sexual harassment grievance policy bullying and we're disc we're getting rid of the word discrimination
055grievance procedures and there's also a change in the cross reference. I make a motion we carry that on to the full board. Is there a second? I'd like to make an alternate motion that we table this as well until the next one because it's still got the sexual sex thing that we need to answer about. Yeah, it looks like they this is changing the cross references in line with the one you the 1500 ones we're concerned about discussed. So, we want to Yeah, I'd like to table that too. Okay. And I I have no idea why they changed the names of the the policies there. I don't know what the rationale for that was. We'll try to figure it out. But the motion to table 17 42. We have a second. I got a second
056here. Second. All in favor of table 1742. Get more information, please signify by saying I. I. I. That passes 30. I'm writing and eyeing at the same time. All right. Uh 1760. The only change there is a cross reference. I think it's the same thing. I make a motion we table that one again to so we get some clarification on that. For what it's worth, Mr. Chair, 2500 is the same way. Thank you. Changes the cross reference. Okay. Just go ahead. That's how I'll make a motion to table both of those. Okay. 17 42 and 17 probably 172. We'll have a ro. I second that. Okay. First and second. All right. And that's for both the uh 1760 and 2500 and 7335 as well. Just changes the cross references. Which one was it? 7335. The
057next there's one in between 4331 is not involved in that. Right. It doesn't look. Okay. All right. So, we have a motion to make sure I have them all write down. 1742 1760 25. What was the last one? 7 7335. 7335. Just changes. It's in page 171. They're just changing the cross references. All right. To table them till next meeting. Second. There's a second. All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. All right. So, carrying on then. 7340 would be our next one. So, just changes a typo in that one. 1740. 1740. I make a motion we carry that on to the full I thought we were in 4331. I'm sorry. Did I miss something? Yeah, we are on 4331. Where' we go? Okay, let's go back to 4331. I'm sorry. I was
058just getting ahead. All right, 4331. Uh, just a cross reference there. Updates and cross references. We are deleting bullying harassment behavior policy and we're changing it to bullying and harassing behavior policy and that's just for cross make a motion to be passed on to the board. Okay, I'll second that. All in favor? Any discussion? All in favor of passing 4331 on to the entire board, please signify by saying I. I passes 30. Now, so we're skipping over 735 because 7340 the next one. Um, dress and appearance. I was trying to find the changes and on the computer I couldn't. But here it's clear and it's a legal reference. Just a legal reference. Okay. Yeah, I was trying to Okay, good. Red. So, and we've done a good job of of adjusting this policy. When I
059first came in, there were 29 different provisos underneath that good. One so much that I had to go out and measure some the gauge of someone's earring based on their start date. So, this is a much more workable professional policy that that I endorse. So, how fun that must have been. Very good. I didn't do it, but supposed to. All right. So, uh I'll make a motion we carry 7340 onto the full board. I second discussion. I'm sorry. I'm looking I'm looking for the changes. It's already just Yeah, I No, I don't have any questions. I had the same I was at home staring at that thing for like five minutes going, "What's going on here? There's no shit." That's why it's nice to have red. All right. All favor of passing that off. Please
060signify by saying I. I. All opposed. Like sign passes 30. 7820 is next. 7820 toward the end here, which is good. Again, only in the cross reference. Did I find anything here? I'm still looking forward at the end of the policy. Um, uh, point on order. Did we include this on one to um, we did not. I'd like to make a motion. Again, we're dealing with the Title N sexual harass and stuff. I'd like to make a motion to table that. I agree. Second. Okay. Any discussion? Hearing none. Uh motion to select or keep uh 7820 in committee. Please signify by saying I. I. I. All opposed. Okay. We'll add that to the list. And our regular last of our NS SBA policies is 90 bless you 90220 uh 9210 care and maintenance and that
061only we're deleting we're deleting the word student safety and we're adding school safety. I'll make a motion to carry that out. I'll second that. Okay. Any discussion? All in favor of carrying 9210 onto the full board. Please signify by saying I. I. I. Wow. And on my sheet here we have added one more policy to discuss which is 2330 and that came from Mr. Perry. Mr. Perry, I'll give you the floor. Uh, thank you. Um, I know the importance of being able to um being able to get stuff onto the schoolboard agenda. Uh, and that we shouldn't have to have a majority just to get things talked about because sometimes you people can change their minds. uh and uh the but uh you know I there's also some other times when you know having having
062some more information and discussion in a committee is the best course of action before we actually do anything. um this uh language that I added uh changes it gives the chair a little bit more um flexibility when it comes to uh requests for items to be added to the agenda. It would require that the chair under normal conditions still place it on the agenda of either a regular agenda review or or a specially called meeting, a full board meeting within two months unless the chair feels that it would be better uh looked at first by a committee. And if that committee uh is going to plan on meeting in the next two months, I don't think a board member, especially with a second, should have to wait 6 months if it's one of our bianial,
063you know, committees that don't that only meet every six months. But I think uh this gives our chair a little bit more flexibility uh and then we won't have each other. Um, and then also I I put some language in there just to make sure that if the person making the motion or making the motion to add this stuff to the agenda isn't on that committee that they be allowed to address that committee, uh, you know, when when when it's brought up. So, uh, yeah. So, I think I I it's a good compromise as far as making sure that the rights of the majority and the rights of the minority are upheld and that we all talk and discuss and listen to each other about stuff, but gives us the chair a little bit more
064flexibility um as to some things that I think are better off starting in committee. So, make a motion. I'd like to make a motion that we adopt these changes and I'll second that for purpose of discussion. Okay. Purpose of discussion. Thank you. I first came on the board in 2018. I've worked under a number of chairs. I fought to get this I fought. You were around too. I believe to because it was being abused horribly. I fought to get this ability to have within two meetings. You'd have to put it on the agenda. You'd have to have seen how it can be abused to believe it. It wasn't just one chair. It was every chair I worked with until I'll be honest, you're the only one I probably would have trusted not to have to
065have that problem. But every chair I worked with did. They used it. They manipulated it. And it wasn't fair to the public because a lot of this stuff was things the public wanted to have addressed. Um, so that's why we have the two meeting rule. And here's my concern with this situation. Everybody in here, not everybody, I think so probably is familiar with what com how committees work and how re, you know, the real world works. And there's no better place to go send something is to go send it to a committee and have it disappear. And that's very common. And so I think you know the idea now of having the chair have to put it on in two months and if they want to move it to committee have the vote of the
066whole body the board itself if they want to move it to a committee. Don't put that power in the hands of a chair. I have sadly seen too much abuse by the chair. Now I'm not saying that Miss Mason is doing it. I said, I I believe that you were fair, but I've seen at least three chairs I worked under that were horrible in refusing to address the needs of the community. A lot of the stuff came from the community and they buried it. So that's my objection to it. I see in a perfect world that would be wonderful, but that's where things go. They go to committees to die. I ask a question please. Sometimes, and we've seen this in the past, even with this current board, I've been obviously meeting with you guys
067monthly to cover other topics and make sure you guys are kept informed and things like that. Sometimes you get information that way and it sort of says, "Okay, I don't really need it on the agenda because I understand it now or something like that." Is there a way to take something off the agenda if it's like if it's something that I can produce for you informational way, how does some how does that resolve? Because of course, you know, you and I were even talking this morning about sometimes our speed and efficiency is an issue because it's a hard time to getting something resolved. You know, we're already up to two meetings a month, which is one more than a lot of places have. They're both eight four hours a piece. That's eight hours long. I
068would think if there's something that I can give you guys information about that solves the problem of having to be on the agenda, is there a way that it comes off? I guess is my question. No, but we could put that we could put that on policy. Wouldn't that be the way to do it? Like just like he's asking right now to have the committee sign it. We could, you know, I'd be more than happy to bring that to policy and we could do that next time to move to the full board. That's a good idea by the way. And because sometimes it's it's I'm trying to help you guys become more streamlined. Yeah, I agree. I think that would work for umformational requests. Uh sometimes when you put something on the agenda, you're just
069looking for a discussion and you don't have a motion attached under information. I think that would work for that. I'm not so sure if it will work if you actually wanted to get something passed and you had an emotion attached to it. I don't know if that would work in that particular instance. Well, sometimes you put something on the agenda because you've heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another. You were messing around, right? I know you're going and I can say here's the information and you go okay maybe it's not needing for discussion because I now know the whole story behind it I guess I mean will of the board but I was just that's a good idea and that's something that that would be something
070that I would be more than happy to work on to put on a policy to have us do what we're doing now to move to the board. Thank you that that's a good idea. I'd like to make a substitute motion for this 2330. I'd like to have a month to think about it. So, I'm going to make a motion that uh we hold it committee for the this month and then um we can discuss it further next month. Okay. Great. And Dr. Barnes, if you have any uh ideas as far as resolving this, I'd like to hear the next one. Sure. Sure. You second that. I second it. Okay. I second that motion. Okay. All right. So the motion now in front of us first is to table 20 the uh discussion from Mr. Perry
071on the the amendment to policy 2330 until our June meeting. Mhm. Your first and second. Any discussion? All in favor, please signify by saying I. I. That passes 300. That'll be held. We already got a good start on the Jimmy. Look at us. Look at us. All right. Um, I don't think we have anything else, believe it or not. So, we can look at each other for another hour or we can No, no, that's okay. All right. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. I second that motion. Okay, I'll make that motion. All right. All in favor of adjournment, please signify by saying I. I. Again, thank you to everyone for being here. Um, to our principal for being here, principal of the year. Yes, we are ajourned. Yay.