001Call the agenda review meeting to order. Get back to where she needs to be. Miss, will you call the role? Good afternoon. Melissa Mason, here. Josie Barnhart here. Pat Bradford I am here. Judy Justice, Dr. Tim Merrick, present. David Perry here. And Pete Bilder, also present. All right. Um, we will have the invocation and um originally it says Miss Justice will lead the pledge. Uh, Miss Barnhart, can you I'm sorry, you just got in. I can do that. Can you leave the pledge when we get done with the invocation? Yes, ma'am. All right. Good evening everyone and thank you for this opportunity to open today's meeting of prayer. My name is Christian Rutherford and I am the youth pastor at Harbor United Methodist Church as well as one of the pastors of Surf Church here
002in Wilmington. Let us pray. Jesus, we thank you so much for this day and this opportunity for us to gather together in this space. We ask that you would give us the wisdom and the discernment that we need to make critical decisions that are going to impact the lives of our children and our youth in this city. Keep our hearts open and our minds open to being receptive. Give us grace where we need to be given grace. Uh and just allow this meeting to move with fluidity. uh and and at peace. Lord, we just love you. We thank you for everything that you are doing and the blessings that you have bestowed upon us. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,
003one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Right. I will entertain a motion to approve the agenda. So moved. Second. Any discussion? Yeah, I think Miss Justice a question about today's agenda. And if she does, now would be the time to say something. All right. Um, we are voting on approving the agenda. Miss Justice and we're at the discussion point. So if there is anything I know you just walked in, but if there's anything Oh yeah. Um when I was looking at it online, I saw the section where we're going to go over the Okay. So, I was bringing up the uh request I made I think it's been the time before throughout the meeting concerning uh an update on what's going on with the alternative to the book stamped that was
004taking out of that class. I think it's been 18 months ago and that was part of the process. So, is that going to be and that um so because that's that was a decision that the board had made uh I sent that over to curriculum and we'll be discussing that in curriculum the curriculum committee because that's that's in that realm. Um we didn't we as a board were not tasked with finding an alternative to that book. It was the it was the curriculum department. Here's my own. And so we're we're as we're moving forward with the curriculum committee, we're going to be that's one of the topics that we will be discussing. But when will they be meeting again? I believe June. It's been 16 or 18 months. Correct. And so and it wasn't even
005tasked until I brought it up. And it's been then at least six weeks since I brought it up. I know curriculum doesn't meet every month. I understand. I used to be on the curricular committees but if nothing else maybe having a I mean after 16 months I there's nothing at this point obviously we can do could you have us meeting before the next schoolboard meeting of curriculum so you can look at it then and bring it to our next meeting because this is getting really not fair to the public. So the difficulty with that is the next meeting that we would be able to have would be the end of May and it would fall on Memorial Day and so we could not have it on Memorial Day and so that's why it is June.
006Yeah. Uh Dr. Thank you so much for recognizing me. Um I think we have uh so we have a situation now supposing that it went back to curriculum and curriculum said no there's nothing that needs to be done about it. it would still fall back on a conversation with the board on whether or not to take action anyway. We've had many cases where, you know, things go into one committee, but they still end up at the board. And I think it's it is time to have a conversation and it could we could even put it into uh you know information. So, it would not be something that we would vote on on on this meeting, but to have the discussion to to let the public know that we're actually looking at this and to let
007them know what the delay has been, be able to have some information and we can have the curriculum, you know, come and talk about what's going on in the process of making this decision and what the obstacles are and why it's taken so long. So, is there a motion? I move that we put that into information on our uh May 6th meeting. Is there a second? I second. So this would be an amendment to the agenda. Yes. Point of order. Yes, Mr. Perry. The we are approving the agenda for this meeting, right? Are we at two or three? What do you mean? We're at two. Two. Right. So I think what if you're talking about adding it to six meeting and that's the next one. It's not proper. Was it for today or was it
008for next week? Mr. Perry. So, do you I will I will retract that uh amendment. Okay. So, we have a motion on the table to approve the agenda. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? That passes 7 to zero. Miss Barnhart, will you keep the time for me? Yes, ma'am. All right. Uh, and just stop me when you have a question, please. Um, so we have the opening, the call to order, roll call, approval of the agenda, invocation, presentation of colors, national anthem, uh, pledge of allegiance, approval of the minutes. Madam Chair, the minutes are not yet up. Okay. Um, do we have Do we have minutes available to to post? They'll be posted by Thursday. Don't we still Aren't we still a month behind
009on on the minutes or we are we a month? We will be caught up. Oh, excellent. Okay. Um recognitions. Yes. Maybe Oh, the pledge. I didn't I didn't. Thank you. Um, is do I have a volunteer to do the pledge? I didn't hear what you said. Sorry. The pledge. The pledge. Um, as of right now, it says Dr. Merritt can do the pledge. I'm happy to. Okay, we'll have Dr. Merrick do the pledge. Um, so recognitions. How long do you need? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So, there are people that are not available at that time and so you'd like to have another time as well later on in the agenda. Do you have any kind of time frame that they are? No. Okay. Okay. Um Mr. board. Um, Maggie, are we going to be the young
010people that we interviewed? Are they going to be recognized? I have a couple. Okay. Oh, I was talking about the the folks we just interviewed students with students future future teachers. We'll we'll do them at that time. Cool. Thank you. Um, Miss Burner, thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. I would suggest that we um are potentially able to recognize those indiv individuals prior to diving into the policy and all good business news section. I don't know if that would be enough time, but that would be past the call to audience. So, a further hour into the meeting. Well, my guess and if it's okay when they come in, signal you and we'll we'll put them in wherever. That's going to tell me that you're going to try to be able to get them before you
011call the audience or maybe right. Okay. Okay. Would you think it's a perfect guess? Yes. Yeah. Don't make them wait through an hour if they don't have to. I agree. I agree. You could sort of put a pause on call audience and and run that through just because they've been working for 10 or 12 hours, but uh we're going to hope they're going to hit it before we get there. Yeah. But it they're just it's so awesome that really want to highlight that. Absolutely. Absolutely. So 10 minutes for there, but then three minutes somewhere else in the Okay, I'm going to say five. That's fine. You can say five. Can I make a recommendation that if we do interrupt call to audience that if we think that might happen that we let the audience know
012ahead of time that we might have to interrupt, right? Maybe if they're not there by the time we get ready to roll. Yeah. Um, student voice. Do we have Miss Bum? Do we have students for student voice? Okay. Uh, teacher voice that went out. I I saw Miss Fatima sent out email yesterday asking for people. So, um, my intention I know we wanted out the smart lab people. They will do it for next month. Okay. So, I'll be able to let you know by the end of the week if they someone picked it up. Okay. Um, and just a question here. I think Miss Bagu was talking about maybe putting some of our folks in. So that went to join us to discuss. Okay. And that's during recognitions as part of recognition. Okay. Okay. Yes.
013You're fine. That works. Um superintendence report chair report. Call to audience. um information. Um we kind of had to do this a little different this time. Uh career and technical education presentation. Does anybody have any questions on that? I'm just excited for it. So that's just my comment. Yes, I see her over there, but I'm just excited for it. You're doing some great stuff and I'm excited to hear it. Awesome. um local oral history. That presentation is going to be posted. When when can we get that posted? That will be posted when it's ready. So, it will be posted by May 1st. Okay. How long for those two weeks? Um so, career and technical education presentation. How long do we need for that? So, 15. Okay. And then the local oral history. Dr. Hamilton, how
014long do you think that's I think that was about 10 minutes as well. All right. Um, moving on to consent. Oh, Dr. Before we move on, yeah, I would like to add make a motion to add to the information uh an update on uh what's happening with the book stamped so that we the public can understand where we are in the process and uh you know what we need to do next. All right. Is there a second? Can you repeat it please? Um the motion was to add an update on the book stamped under information Any discussion, Mr. Perry? Yes. Um, well, I guess this questions and also I mean at this point in the school year, the likelihood of stamping out of the curriculum before the end of this school year is not happening.
015So, um, could we potentially have it for next year? is discussions um over the summer which our curriculum committee should address and I think that's probably the proper place to start. I don't think there's any rush other than trying to appease the public uproar in news articles to actually you know get this done now. And I mean I want to make sure that we get the right people in here having the right discussions from presentations about the you know making sure that there's a diversity of viewpoints uh presented in class. So it's not um so I I've just not seen the necessity of of doing it now as opposed to letting it go to curriculum first. Okay. M Justice I think uh Mr. That's not what we're asking. We're just asking, Dr. Merrick is just
016asking to have an update to the public. So, we won't get the emails, the questions, the confusion. The whole idea is transparency and communication, which is always a challenge in any part of life. So, that's all we're trying to do. Does that does that help you understand what you just want to make an announcement where we're at? And is that the idea? Yeah. So, they'll So, the public will understand. Mr. Wor. Well, u I just going to have to ask the obvious question. We just did. Didn't we just announce what it is? So, I understand that next Tuesday it might be a little different, but I think we just announced that it's going to go to curriculum and anybody that's watching now or in the audience now would know that. So, I don't understand why
017the media can pick it up. Yeah. Okay. I just don't if somebody could help me with that. Thank you. All right. Dr. America, I I do agree that we've heard something that that I mean, frankly, I don't know what the holdup is. It's been 18 months. I don't know what it is. We could talk about it now, and that would be fine. But, you know, from what I understand from the statistics, only about 200 people watch this show, if you will, and more like 2500 people watch the the full board meeting. So, I think spin-off. What's that? It's a spin. Right. This is a C. She only loves Chachi. Exactly. And I think it's only fair to the public to to bring, you know, substantive discussions to the full board meeting. That's right. Uh, Miss
018Bradford, and then I'm going to vote no because the last board meeting we had. I don't want to jiv up any more fever in the community than is already out there. I just want to have some peace and not fulfill campaign promises, not build my personal silo. I just want to do the business of teaching children. And um because you've gone I'm going to have Miss Barnhart go. Thanks. I I think um later on in this in this agenda review meeting, we're going to be talking about board committees and maybe it's something that we re have the topic of conversation of curriculum committee and board members being a part of that. um because I think that that is the right place for this at the time. Um when we're talking about collaboration, I'm very excited
019for this local oral history. That's something that we talked about together as a board to um enhance the curriculum that we have, but I think it's something that maybe we should revisit and have the conversation of board members being a part of that curriculum committee. Thank you, Madam Chair. And Miss Justice. Okay. Um, I think this would diffuse any kind of public push back by having information so people understand. Um, also as somebody that has been in charge of curriculum in the district, has worked with curriculum for decades and has been on the curriculum committee, I don't I think it's a plus for us to have the discussion about the book and how curriculum does its role because most people don't understand it. you know, they see the magic at the end where the kids
020come home with their homework and talk about what they did in school, but it's nothing but an enhancement for our public to understand behind the scenes how we go about developing in locally like she uh Miss Barnheart was just talking about the the local history. These are all good things and part of that would be the situation with staff. So, I I don't see it as being a problem problematic situation. you know, it wouldn't take that long, but I do know that the public would like it. And it's not a campaign promise because this has gone on for 16 months, long before there was a campaign. This is something the public is interested in. It's obviously. Um, uh, Dr. Merrick and then Mr. Perry. I, uh, I object to the, uh, to the assertion that
021it's a campaign promise. I mean, it could just as easily be said that the banning of the book was a campaign promise. So, let's put that out. We can't decide which part of the public we want to show up and which part of the public we don't want to show up. That's not our job. If the public is concerned and if they do come, it's actually our job to listen and find out why. But the bottom line is we do have a policy that says that if is uh motioned and seconded, we must to the board within two months and to send it to curriculum is great. I think that's a really great channel. It's a good way to do it, but it does not abregate the responsibility of this board to pick up something
022that was motioned and seconded within two sessions. I said let's call question second. Um, so the question has been called that requires a twothirds vote. So, Miss Buie, will you call the role? This is to end discussion. Oh. Miss Mason, yes. Miss Bradford, yes. Miss Barnhard, yes. Mr. Wore, yes. Dr. Mer, no. Mr. Perry, no. And Miss Justice? No. Okay, that does not pass. Um, Mr. Perry, very quickly, I just How do you just want to make a How long do you think you need this? One minute to give an announcement to the public. Is that all you're looking for? If you want a minute, I'll give it to you. Okay, Dr. Barnes, I would ask before that goes much further, a week will give me time. Um, I don't think that any of us
023have checked in with that teacher in a significant amount of time regarding the subject. So, that will give me time to make sure that she knows that that conversation is in the zeitge. I don't want her to feel like, well, where where this going to come because obviously she's moved on. status in the new curriculum. So just make sure that we get a chance to talk touch base in the next week. All right. So the motion on the table is to add a brief update of the book stamped under information. Miss Buie, will you call the role? Mr. Wille, no. Miss Frank, no. Miss Mason, no. Miss Barnhard? No. Mr. Perry. Yes. Dr. Merrick. Yes. And Miss Justice. Yes. All right. That fails. 4 to 3. 3 to 4. It fails. Um, continuing on to
024consensus items, capital project transfers. Does anybody have any questions relating to that? Miss Barnhard. I'd just like some clarity. The nanix that is the cyber security is is that the correct understanding aging data center solution actually replacing um our existing aging data center solution. Okay. So I think that is something different. Miss Brenson isn't here with us. Local storage. Yes. Okay. It's actually um that powers 100 plus virtual servers um on our network. Miss Freick, um I couldn't get either of those supporting document links to open and so if somebody could work that out um so that we could actually see what it is. Um actually none of those right now will open. Not even the Midi Evans capital outlay. Um anyone else having trouble getting those open? It has to download. Yeah, it's taking
025a little time right now. I'm able to see it now. I was able to open it. It's like you have to click it and then click the file to be open once you click on it. So you have to download it to your computer and then open it. Yes. Yeah. It's download. There you go. That's what it's called. Double click. I I I know how to do it. I know how to do it. I don't think it's anyway. Never mind. That project is if that if this helps at all. Um we have identified -ate revenue that can be used to pay for um part of that project. Um the total project is 456,000. Um the -ate revenue identified can pay for 267,000 which leaves um our portion of about um 188,000. Um, so with processing
026this transfer, it'll pay for half of our portion and then the other 92,000 is included in the capital outlay request. And just for clarity purposes, looking at the document, 85 cents is what's being transferred from the New Hver High School repairs. Like it was like a small balance. So I don't want people to read that and think, oh, we're taking it's like 85 cents will be transferred from the resurface track project at New Hver High School project. So it's not like we're take I just want to put that out there. They're just it's just like the small amount they're just using everything to Yeah. So what has happened is a lot of projects have ended and so we've had small balances left on all these little projects. I'm just trying to scoop it all up
027to fund some other things um before like $3.338 for the security cameras. So like it's very small amount. So if you see some of these 36 cents too out there for vehicle replacement. So yeah. Um, yeah. So, don't want that money to go away. We want to use it. This is Mr. Perry. This is capital project transfer under consensus. Yeah. So, can we can I make a motion to show the consensus? I'm I'm I'm just a little concerned about apparently some stuff I read in the news about Rob Zapple saying that our our you know we're our facility seems to be in shambles for something. Can we address that in here somewhere? I certainly can address it right now or I can address it next week. Now would be good next week. So, Miss Sutton
028and I um are meeting with uh both Eric Cradle and Chris Cudre on Friday to bring it a copy of all of our outstanding capital items and their expected due dates. Some of the reason for that outstanding balance is the money is encumbered, meaning it's already it's already earmarked to pay for work that's not yet completed. And so, some of that work uh we won't pay for until it's finished. And so we've got completion dates for everything for Mr. Fudrey, Mr. Cradle. We'll provide that to you guys as a board as well and we'll bring it up next Thursday afternoon by just to make sure we clear up any misconception. I will I will remind everyone that you know both the county and the board um remind you that both the county and the board
029had very specific goals to reduce the size of our central office. A lot of what we had were project managers that were being funded by the past bond. And as those bond projects were completed, the funding for those positions went away. No one lost their job, but as people went over to other things, they weren't replaced because the bond money isn't there to replace that position. So, we all know that everybody took a hit with the budget last year, schools and central office. And this is one of those places where I'm trying to make sure we're being good stewards of our money. And as the scope of jobs change, the scope of work changes as well. Uh Dr. Merrick, I think you're bringing up a really cogent point that by being fiscally responsible and reducing
030our staff and then to be told that we don't have staff to do the work. That's a double bind. That's not fair. And so, thank you for for making that point. Well, we will pivot as needed and as projects I fully expect as the bond if if we if the board requests a bond bond yo etc etc those would either be built in to the bond projects a project manager cost or we would pivot upwards as we have the availability but as we get smaller we have to have people doing more than one job simply because that's the world that we're in right now Miss Bradford um Dr. Would you explain the simple example of um school gets fitting windows because of moisture and the difference between the calendar year and the school year and
031school year? Sure. And again, 38 cents over there. You make sure you keep me online here. Um a good example is we want to replace the windows in one wing at Alderman. Well, that can't be done during the school year because of the disruption it causes to the educational process. So, it has to happen over the summer. So some jobs have a completion date of August 1st simply because they can't start until June 1st. And the point is the fiscal year ends June 30th. June 30th. So it splits two fiscal years. M Justice, the these were all important points and this is part of the communication challenge we have when we're working with a different government agency in this case the commissioners because in in all fairness in the past this has happened before uh
032over in fact several cycles different years we don't spend all the money down until July or whatever goes on and so this is one of the things that concerned me about them bringing it up like they suddenly had never heard of this happening before so this is the kind of communication we need to express to them so that next year this won't even be an issue. And I'm not sure why it was. And you know, Mr. Zapple's been on the board for quite a while. County commissioners. I'm surprised he didn't remember. But um in the future, we just need to keep overcommunicating. I guess that's the best way of saying it. And that's what we're doing right now. And Ashley's done a great document that lists every single project and its completion dates. Okay. Uh
033Miss Barnharter, thank you. I just I want to give a shout out to our county commissioners because this year was the first year they asked for specifically having facilities and upgrade projects so that we could potentially secure even more funding for our schools. But I I do appreciate the dialogue um and intentionality not only with the finance committee but with our counterparts to let them know this is where we're at with this projects because that's what they want to know is to say where are they going? Um, and I I think again a great example, and it's not on here, and I I I'd sent you a text, Madam Chair, what to have an update for New Hover High School of where we're at because just this year they have invested almost $7 million to
034that school. Um, and so I it goes without saying we can see a fast turnaround time whenever the projects were able to do with, like you said, those constraints and restrictions. And so I appreciate. So, my understanding we're going to get that update of where we are of the spending and the projects completed this week and so will our commissioners. So, we're all on the same page of that. Correct. Or you've already sent that to the commissioners. We have not already. We're bringing it Friday when we meet with them. Okay. And then we'll be presenting it to all of you folks next week when we sit down for the finance meeting. Thank you for that. I will tell you that more than half of that total number is New Hamilton. Now, some of our folks
035have sat down. we've gotten a rough draft of a sort of a um a rough draft of the the facility study for new handover and as a board you guys are set to hear that issue because I did bring that. Um so continuing contracts and purchase orders. Does anybody have any questions about those? You're fine. I'll give you a second. No. Okay. Student accident policy. Can we get that one explained? Miss Sutton, are you able to uh try to find I know you're trying to get some notes on that one. You're good. So, so um so what this is bring up what we have out there. Hold on. Sorry. All right. So, um when every year as part of um the re-evaluation for all of our insurance policies, we use um our current insurance agent
036to get quotes for us. So, we make sure we're getting the right the best price right for the service. Um this year, in addition to doing that, so McGriff um insurance services has been our agent for the past several years. Um, and I just wanted to look into some other agents to see if maybe I could get some better prices because we hadn't done that in a while. Um, so going through that process, we actually were able to get a little bit slightly better pricing from Shuri Insurance. Um, and so that is the group that I'm looking at going with. Um, however, they also brought up um something that I thought was worth talking about. Oh, yeah. Um yeah, we had talked about it briefly. Um currently our students do not have insurance on campus.
037Now athletes, we are required by state to cover for athletic events, but our other students do not have insurance while they're on campus. And so um of course in our um orientation packets, we include a form where parents can pay and it's very cheap. um $5, $6 for the year for their child to have insurance. Um however, a lot of parents don't take advantage of that. And so I I would like for the board to maybe consider um us getting a policy for our students so that they would have coverage um while they're on campus, not just athletes or while they're playing sports, but while they were doing other things on our campuses. Um it's less than a dollar a student. Um if we were to do that, um it amounts to I think it
038was around $20,000 to cover all of our students. Um and so as long as they're involved in a um event that's being sponsored by one of our staff members, this insurance would cover that for our students. Um, and what I would like to do, I think, um, with the slight um, decrease in cost for the athletic insurance and I think that our general liability insurance might come in a little bit less, too. So, I was just wanting to run this by the board if the board is in agreement that this is something you'd like for me to pursue if I have enough funding in the budget that's already been approved in this resolution. if I have extra 20,000 to use that money to buy this additional coverage, but I didn't want to move forward if
039that's something the board didn't want to consider. Um, Miss Bradford. And then two things. I I had a couple specific language. Um, item four in theou it says obligations of the board and it lists things that the board is responsible for, but the board isn't responsible. That would be the district. So, is that the right language in thisou? There's two places. And then when it says notices, notices to the board will go to Miss Farnum. And I wondered if that shouldn't have said district um four obligations of the board. Which one are you on? Because I don't for noou this one. This is student accident policy. Oh, sorry. Sorry. It's C. Yeah. So there's no attachment. This was just for com conversation. And I wanted to provide a recommendation and and my question was does
040that then extend our liability if we have an insurance policy? I've asked the board attorney. Um does it does it change um any legal responsibility in our part once we're covering students then we have to worry about exceptions and this that and the other because we don't have it now right except for athletes. Mr. Blanch. Okay. Talk about purchasing optional insurance. Yes. um insurance. That's insurance that covers the board's liability, not this. It sounds to me like the type of policy you're talking about is similar to, for example, a med pay policy that someone would have. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that. It's a no fault type policy. A lot of businesses have that. that if somebody slips and falls, you know, on the sidewalk out in front of it,
041it will pick up $5,000 or something of their medical expenses without a showing of fault. So, it's it's just like a supplemental insurance policy. It it doesn't impact our liability one way or another. It just provides a way for them to um recover and pay for medical expenses without having to prove that the school or someone else was negligent and at fault for it. and and I good that's a good point very very good very good point the the other thing is we have really even though this doesn't really I guess uh mitigate our liability related to um incidents that happen that are you know our fault right um however there are certain activities that we no longer are allowing our students to participate in because the concern that they might get hurt or something
042might happen. And I felt like having this policy might let us re-evaluate those prohibited activities. Maybe knowing that we have this policy, we have a better comfort level with allowing so like petting zoos. Right now we say no to petting zoos because you might get bitten. And so if we had this policy, maybe we would say, okay, but we have a policy where if you are hurt, then at least we would cover that injury. Um but I think that's something that the board needs to consider. Yes. Um my question is what does the policy what kind of coverage does the policy afford? Medical payments. So if this is something the board wants to move forward with, I can certainly get a copy of the policy and share that with the attorneys to make sure that
043we feel comfortable that it's um covering the things that we're looking for. But I didn't want to proceed down the path if this wasn't something we were interested in. uh Miss Justice then Mr. Bore and then everybody wants Okay, I'm just trying to clarify here. So, we're referring to take bringing this just approving the MOU during our regular meeting or we're going to talk about this in public during there's noou on this. This is just and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Miss giving the go-ahad to pursue more information on this. Is that correct? constit. So should we do a motion to to have it's part it's part of the at this so right now it says recommend the recommendation is purchasing the comprehensive student accident policy for 20,000 contingent upon the actual insurance
044renewals for general liability insurance being less than the estimated budget and the excess funds being sufficient to cover this additional cost. So it's a contingent there's a contingency. Okay. So we got to wait for the contingency. Um well um Mr. Will could not Miss Justice go ahead and make a motion that we uh that we move this forward to um Ashley now so that by next week she might have some new info. Um well can we have everybody ask the questions that they first Mr. I remember back in like the principal days we actually that the state school boards had some kind of a similar policy right that's already covered you know kind of come out child's arm and they ended up being paid for but then we already have something if we were covered
045at least somewhat under that what would be the difference we currently do not have that um unless it's a liability is found on our side so um currently we I think at some point we may have had a similar policy but we do not have one now. Dr. Merrick and then Mr. I was kind of shocked to hear that we didn't have that kind of coverage. I I mean, if we can cover it with the savings, it just seems so uh irresponsible not to. But I also, you know, even though it's only $5 or $6 or whatever it is, for some people that's like, okay, I'm not going to have lunch money today, you know, and I don't want to ever have a situation where we end up where some people can afford the services
046and some can't. I think if we're going to have the services, it should be for everybody. And so I like this idea. Um, I heard you say that you might want to pull it off and and check, but I'd vote for it now. Terry. Um, speaking of, uh, campaign promises, I made one to my grandson so that we could ask for a special day each year for bring your pet to school day. And I I'm hoping that maybe this insurance would cover that such a thing. And so I am definitely for it. The look on this man's face. Um, but I also think too that this is some of our parents are are unable to have insurance for their kids and that is a significant cost as well that obviously this wouldn't cover that. Mhm.
047Thank you. I I just think this speaks to the assessment when we're looking at re-evaluating. I know this is something for like the benefits and the add-on for our staff too. I know we're not up on contract for that, but re-evaluating it for our students because over the years we the insurance that we're able to offer has been cut substantially. So, we're bringing this back to say if this is an opportunity that we can invest in, I'm absolutely for it. My question comes with what is the term of that? if we're looking at and it looks like a good possibility that with the savings that we're getting through the academic lens that we can not acade athletic lens that we can add on this extra liability. So what would that term be of potentially we'd
048be able to have this for x amount of years before reevaluation? I don't know what the contract is. So it is every it is an annual insurance policy that we would come back to and we would put out just like we did this year. I'd kind of I would be using the young group that would be our new agent for this and then I would ask them to get quotes and you know identify who's the best provider for the service. So it's the annual my followup with that is if we had a base that we bought in for all students could families then in turn buy further in if they say I want to do further insurance for myself I don't know if that's a possibility yes I I think so I could ask and
049I could ask for that information when I contact them to get the the base the 20,000 I could ask for additional options for parents if they I think parents might be interested in that as well if we're able to provide this for your child, but if you want further than to do that, certainly I'm sure they would be glad to offer other options. Miss Justice, yes, we I move that we add this to our upcoming meeting agenda with further information gathered by then so we can this is part of it already because it's part of the consensus. This is part of consensus already. So this is all ready for the next meeting. Manager. Um, I amend Miss Justice Moses, Miss Justice Motion to do it now instead of waiting till next week to move it
050forward under consensus. Okay, we can we can vote on it now. Is there a second? We need the financial agenda. Let's just let's wait. Okay, there's no second for that. So, um, it is on the agenda. I think that having more information we we could ask for that. Can you hit that turnaround time? I will reach out to him and see if I can get the information back and if I have it back in time, I'll provide it at the board meeting. Just ask for the declarations page. That'll be Oh, okay. Thank you. All right. Um D, I am actually going to make a motion to remove that. um we're addressing that today because there is a deadline of May 2nd I believe um that we need to have that agreed upon and so that
051is under today's agenda the agenda review. So I'm going to make a motion to remove D from next week's agenda. Second. All right. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Passes seven to zero. Next we have uh e memoranda of understanding with western governor's university for the 2025 2026 school year. Were there any questions miss? I have questions on this and the upcoming skip over to G memorandums and I just wanted to ask the superintendent. Um, I had expressed an interest last year or the year before or both that rather than wait a whole year requiring them to go a whole year without checking uh sex offenders and so on that we we shorten that to half a year. Have you had any chance to look into that?
052I have not. Are you asking me to um for to check employees or to check Well, what we require under theou is for the Oh, I see what you're saying. The provider to check those registries once a year, but a lot can happen in six months. So, um to better protect our students, to better comply with all the things we have to comply with. It just seems like if it wouldn't be terribly inconvenient for anyone um if we shortened that window to every six months. And Jen, I want you to check, Miss Geller, I want you to check on this to see if I'm wrong, but once they start student teaching here and things like that, they come under our guardian system which monitors them permanently throughout the course of their time. I think that's
053correct, isn't it? So that's correct. For all of our employees, if we allow the the university to run their back background checks, they would not be in our system. We can take their information and upload it. So in fact, we could if that's what you would like. Because I think once they once they start their student teaching here, they go into that volunteer aspect of volunteer 2 status which is attractive guardian and we would upload their information into the system more so than when they first start. Right? So those uploads into guardian we have to take that information and manually upload them which we can do. Yes. So we would do that. So what do we need to do to do that? Nothing. Nothing. Got it. That was going to be my clarity. Does there
054need to be any language changes in theou so that interns are now uploaded into our system that they're per I think what I would suggest that we do is is make sure interns know that they are also considered volunteers because their time with us and that would have them fall under that volunteer 2 status which is something that we check on. Okay. Absolutely. And then the miss if we're just if we're just on E. No, I'll wait for G. Okay. Anything else on E? Yeah, I'm just, you know, the newbie here. I'm curious iss I see this with uh, you know, UNCCG and Western Governors. What sort of uh, do we have with Watson, you know, UNCCW? Each individual school has their own. So, there's there's a whole host of them. And so, these are
055very similar. These are similar to what we already have with Watson. Thank you. All right. F contracts extending into fiscal year 2026. Anybody have questions about those? Okay. Uh G me memorandum of understanding with YMCA, YWCA and NC swims. Mr. W. First off, I'd like to say this is great. When I started 112 years ago Middle School, I said, you know, I can't believe we don't teach kids how to swim here. Um very familiar with YMCA, YW.CA. Not at all familiar with NC swim. Yeah. Can somebody tell us about that? Um I don't even know where do they have their own pool. What do they So um NC swim is the partner for um the YW.CA and the YMCA. Um but to my knowledge and Mr. Worthington is here um also as he works as
056a liazison with these this program. Um my understanding is it's specifically in the YM and YW pools. Is that correct? Correct. Hey Uh so the reason NC swim has come on is because we need more volunteers. We have a expanded program over the past couple of years. Uh NC swim supports this program. They're a nonprofit that um advocates for swimming all of their certified being able to to train as well. And so as we've grown and added more schools, NC swims is going to come alongside of us and support in the exact same capacity, but under the the guidance of YMCA, like just sure that we've got all of our students covered and all of them supported in those pools. We've had to expand and add a couple of pools. You can see kids swimming
057out at least second. Uh we are using the near wide. the WCA a couple other pools as well. So, uh this is a good time for us to add this in as we're expanding pools and locations and and possibly as well expanding into more schools to provide more. So, going to come along and provide more support in terms of staff in the water. That's sort of like synchronized swimming. [Laughter] Well, I know Miss Bradford and then um it reminds me um that the the emojis we've just done or are we're potentially going to do with the um with the insurance um and this one have the attorneys is this working off the template that these attorneys have approved or another attorney had approved in the past? And then again, I have this language question because
058it says obligations of the board under four and then it lists all these things and I think that's the obligations of the district and not the board because I don't want to be obligated to solicit students or be the primary contact for parents or provide the Y with the list of students as the board. I don't want to do that doesn't fall under our purview. It falls under his purview. So why does that say obligation to the board? So theou has been reviewed in prior by attorneys. Um so it was in last school year um the May board meeting in 2024. So it was reviewed at that time and basically because this is a memorandum of understanding between the board of education and those the other agencies then our board is saying yes these are
059the things we'll do but administration actually takes care of those. They're not responsibilities of board members. They are responsibilities of the um the agency though and we handle all the things in number four. And then I wanted to you had a question about the background check. Do you want me to circle back to that? Sure. Um so as a part of the well I just had it and I've lost it. Um oh here it is on page three section. Um which emo I'm only on the swim, Emily. Um, under number six, the general provisions under F, um, the Jessica Lensford acting criminal background checks. While they have to be conducted annually, the there's an additional statement in here that says, "Under no circumstances shall any YMCA, YW, or in NC swim personnel be assigned to
060work with any student or own property or at a new Hannover County Schools event. If, and it lists several things, if they have um um appear on any registry, convicted of a felony, convicted of any crime, whether misdemeanor or felony involving sex, violence or drugs, and then it continues on. Um one thing that um we require in within um our responsibility in managing is ensuring that we have on record the signature from the agency that they have conducted their checks. Cool. Thank you, Miss Barnhart. And then Dr. Merrick. Thank you. Um I love seeing this program. I know um why in New H County Schools we were um named one of the champions with them of just this partnership to so to see it grow is wonderful and NC swim does a wonderful job. They
061offer free lessons to students in our community and so I have seen that throughout. So I love to see them getting involved with this. My question became along the lines of frequency. I know I happened to be at one school where the kids were getting on the bus and so getting to talk with the with the um staff that got to take them and the kids and how excited they were. So, how often are they actually going to swim lessons? And then when it comes to providing that feedback, I think I said in here that um feedback will be given to the superintendent. But I'd love to hear about how many are actually learning to swim and what is that success rate we're seeing because you know the unfortunate reality of being so close to
062water um we don't want any accidents to happen. So, if we can say that we're boosting the chances of survival with that, I think that's wonderful. So, if you could speak to that, that'd be great. Yeah, that's a great question. So YMCA came out and spoke to our principal the last principal meeting just to discuss how the pilot programs operated. Uh they didn't give explicit numbers but they gave some testimonials about students who were afraid of touching the water at all and by the end of the week they were in the water and uh being able to do some of those men that rescue swim. Uh in terms of actual numbers of students that we would say came from no contact or zero to being able to swim. I I'd have to reach out to
063them to answer that question. So, they go for five days. In a couple of cases, we've had that before because of the logistics for the calendar. Uh but students are going to be in the water from the first day. Uh on uh so each day is about an hour and a half to two hours of time spent at each facility uh working with Y swimmers. Uh their teachers are there with them, but just for the record, teachers are not in the water. They they are not there teaching to swim. We we saw that that probably wouldn't be something they wanted to do. But just terms of of feedback itself, the students and parents have have been elated to do this. Uh principal leaders will tell you at the very beginning it's like that's a big
064swim trunks and towels and they're coming back or whatever. But when they when the principal gets the way we can. This has been awesome. Our kids love it. It is us teaching the whole child and it's an opportunity. So, so they want to take um since you asked about frequency and us being able to expand this. I will say the expansion is really going to be based on logistics. We're going to work towards that goal of seeing all second graders. I think I had 500 students to be a part of this program. A lot of that is going to depend on logistics involving transportation and just our own calendar have 25 schools and so getting second graders amongst all 25 schools into the water is probably going to be a logistical challenge. Um so we're
065going to start meeting early and often to to get it done and as we go through especially over the next year provided that we see continued results we're going to try to expand this more and more uh and reach as many kids as possible. I have a second grader next year. She's already a water bug. Whether or not she's able to get in, it's going to depend on whether we can handle the logistics. Thankfully, YA is covering all the cost for every single benefit. So, this doesn't cost us a dime. At this at this point, they are they have a grant that is ending next year. Did you say all 25 schools though or how many schools did you say were currently participating? So, currently we operated with a few schools in a pilot program
066and I think we got up to 12. for this year and last year. And so we're looking to expand that more now that we know the funding is there, but it's going to depend on uh logistics of school calendar, transportation, those types of things. Thank you, Dr. Merrick. Thank you, Mr. Worththington. I I'm I'm just delighted to see kids be able to get out and do something with their bodies in a way that's going to, you know, support them and and it's fantastic. And I I did meet with NC swim over at Freeman School during their STEM event and they were wonderful. They were they they had great testimonials there and what they talked that just their faces lit up talking about how happy these kids were and how how the teachers were also really
067impressed with what was going on with the kids. But they did say we only have, you know, a handful of schools. We really want to expand. And I'm I didn't even think about it until this came up today. I'm like, thank goodness. We're excited that the Y has worked on getting some money for this increase. Wonderful. Yes, Justice. Uh yes. Uh back to the discussion about the board and the district. Maybe the uh attorneys can elaborate on the relationship when you use those terms because I'm sorry I'm too far away from mic. uh because it in essence we are the district the board is the district there is no separation I mean if my understanding which has been for years and I think that everybody on the board needs to understand that you're the corporate
068body that's correct like if if uh if if this were a contract orou between General Motors and someone else you would be you know referring to General Motors the board is the decision maker for it, but the the actual obligation runs to the whole agency. What you're saying essentially in these is the board will cause such and such to happen. You know, we'll cause the the agency to do X, Y, and Z. So, you're correct. That's the law. All right. Anything more on that? All right. Uh application for career and technical education state federal funding fiscal years 2025 26. Any questions on that? All right. So, we have that as taking about five minutes. Um, if we have more information about the student accident policy, I'm going to say we want to maybe extend that
069at least five more minutes. So, say minutes. That would be my that way we can get that information in and ask any questions. Um, it's part of the consensus. We'll pull it. You pull it. We'll pull it. Right. We'll pull it. Right. So, I'm going to just for keeping track of time. That's That's why I'm saying that. Well, as of right now, it is. We will have to pull it. Yes. Um, under policy, Mr. Wabore, how much time do you think you need for policy? We have 10 wonderful policies here to discuss. Um, I would say um I probably would say 15 minutes. 15 minutes. Yeah, we're there. I always like to say 15 and we're done in Okay, maybe I'm getting some vibe from the other side. Maybe we should 20. I mean, I'd
070rather do say 20 and be done at 10 than the other way around. So, all right, let's say 20. Let's say 20. Okay. Uh, Miss Bradford, um, can we can we pull 2450 now? And I'd like an opinion from our board attorneys who have the Robert Tools in order in in their hands. Um, there's a proposal to support suspension of board policies and to change anytime we do that from a majority to a supermajority. And I'd like for these attorneys to render their opinion on um changing. We've adopted Robert's rules of order and we're following Robert's rules of order. So what happens when we deviate with what Robert says and we now make something much harder to do. Um the the use of the supermajority is very rare and it's very protected under Robert. So
071I'd like their opinion of it and I just soon hear it now. Okay. Uh, attorneys any I'd like to hear I'd like to hear Miss Bradford rephrase that for us. Well, if you look at policy 2450, okay, there is a motion to change that policy to make it a supermajority vote to suspend um the rules. And right now, because it's following Robert's border, it is a majority vote. And I'd like your opinion, legal opinion on what happens if we deviate from from Roberts because Roberts protects the right of the little person, the small minority vote. That's one of the reasons why Roberts exists is so that everyone has a chance to to speak and be heard and not be um so that they have equal say. And whenever we go monkeying with something that Roberts
072has already set out, it's concerning. you I I this is something I've never thought about in the context of a school board um before the um there are mandated instances for other municipal agencies where you have to have a supermajority. For example, you know, by statute, land use decisions are now all a majority vote except for variances, which must must be four fifths. But I can't think of any right off the top of my head where you're mandated to on a substantive matter. All right? Like if let's say a contract comes in front of you, I can't think of a situation where you're required to vote with a you know supermajority. Everything would be a simple majority. But when we're talking about the operation of the you just gave a perfect example five minutes ago
073in the closure vote you had you know to to close off debate you're under Robert's rules you know even though substantively when that question got called it would be a majority simple majority to close off you know poacher you need a super majority correct Um, I mean, sitting here being put on the spot right now, I can't think of a a a a reason why you couldn't do it to say to change policy. And I'm talking about just in the operation of the meeting. I'm not talking about the substantive things that come in front of you. On the substantive things that come in front of you, I I think you probably are stuck with a regular majority. And you know what I mean by the substantive things? all of the decisions that you're actually making.
074I think you you know I I I can't imagine how you could justify a a supermajority say for any decision that comes in front of the board. Um um I know I know you're talking about suspending the rules for the for the for the it's suspended policies. 2450 is suspension of board policies. Um, Mr. Ward, did you have your hand up because I thought I saw you did, but I know that Dr. You know, I get this little cheat sheet many years ago. It actually says under suspended rules suspended rules which can't interrupt. Do you need a second debate? No. Amen. No. That already, you know, necessitates a 23 vote. So, so it already says it in Robert's rules. We already have it here. Sorry. It's in Robert's current for what it's worth 115- C-36.
075I've got it open right now. It doesn't mention, you know, majority or supermajority in it. But I mean, you know, obviously the the common law rule for everything is going to be just an ordinary majority. But I see what you're saying now. You're talking about changing board board policy, the underlying substantive policies like in our policy manual rather than No, sir. It's it's suspending the board policies. And I've seen it done at state levels in big meetings where they say for so that we can discuss this, we're going to suspend the policies of the board today for for this issue. I've seen it done. Okay. You're just talking about the board like the the operation of the meeting. The procedural policies, not I need a better example to understand what the question. That's why I'm
076bringing this up today. Maybe if you study it between now and next week. Yes, we can we can instead of eating up everybody's time, we can talk about it afterwards if you like. Um Dr. Merrick. Yeah, I it's not rare. I I think I have seen in every single meeting I've been in since I was elected the choice to ignore policies. Like for instance, we have a policy that says once a thing is motioned and seconded, it must come before the board within two meetings. That's been ignored multiple times. So that is actually a case and I and I brought it to you during this meeting. I said, "Hey folks, I'm giving you the option. If you don't want to follow the policy, then then quote 2450 and just say that's what you're doing." Right?
077So we have policies in our manual and if we don't want to follow them, we should be on record for it to say, you know what, we're not going to follow policy today. And I don't think that should be done casually. I don't think we should ignore our policy manual. That's why we have it. I would also uh object to the idea that we're protecting the little person. I think just the opposite. What we don't want is to have a majority rule that comes in and takes over the board. no matter where it's coming from. The idea of having it be a super majority is such that we just can't ignore our policies unless a a strong faction believes it's the right thing. Miss Justice and then Mr. This is policy and we're supposed to
078be talking about it in policy and I know that Miss Bradford asked to talk about it now, but this is the kind of discussion we should be having in policy. Yes. Why do we have a policy committee and then bring it to the full board which is what we should be doing during the board meeting. This is what we're doing right now. Yes. We're not No, I'm talking about voting for the policy. We're not voting for the policy. We're discussing the policy. We're asking questions about the policy which is what we do now. We think we didn't talk about policy. And you did. Exactly. Um Mr. Perry. Yes. It was in policy. Uh we voted for it. And the reason I I the example and perhaps attorney the example I came up with is for
079instance if we were to uh move to amend or add something to the agenda after the agenda had already been adopted say later in the meeting that you would be have a super you would need a supermajority to add it. But if you could just suspend the board policies then you could say four to three. Oh, no. Well, we're not going to need a super majority, so we're gonna suspend that and then just proceed to take it. M. Mason, I I think if if I'm hearing you guys right, it sounds like we're we're really down to one board policy, 2330, the board meeting agenda. It sounds like that's the one that's at issue. That's the one that deals with the two meetings and changing. Both examples you gave were both dealing with agenda, placing items
080on the agenda and lots of policies policies get violated honestly. Well, I mean, for example, if if we we would not want to change that, for example, to supermajority, if we wanted to say amend our um reassignment policies or things like that, those substantive policies that deal, the studentf facing ones, um I think you're going to have to stick with a simple majority on what you're talking about is the policies that deal solely with the operations of the meeting. You're talking about the procedural ones. That that's what I was getting at earlier. The difference, the the procedural ones and 2450 doesn't really lay that out very well. Right, Miss Bradford? Yeah. I I I ask for the legal interpretation of this because these three sentences in in in my non-legal interpretation have nothing to do
081with some of the examples that have been brought up. I I again I have seen it happen um in suspending the bylaws. I've seen it done in things at large state meetings. I've seen the suspension of board policies. But I I really think that that the understanding of what this language is needs to be seriously legally classified or re, you know, explained because I don't think it's being interpreted by board members correctly. This will not change how we add things to the agenda if this passes. This is saying the operation of any section or sections of board policies not established by law or a contract may be suspended temporarily by a supermajority. And again um or right now it says majority and that is to protect the voice of the person who's not in the
082in in the majority. Um h it it that's what Roberts is designed for. I really think that there's a misunderstanding about this policy. That's why I asked for legal to to deal with it between now and next week. Okay. Okay. All right. I think 20 minutes. I think you're probably right. Continuing on under old business, we have initial budget resolution fiscal year 202526. Mr. And I was just going to say um I think we have put in our policy but it's not here not policy in our regular agendas update from your hand and it's not here right and we can we're really nothing new is really happening until we can finish and give you the final shaboop because I asked to shaboot shaboot word you can your lawyer it's a legal term super majority all
083right Any any questions on the initi initial budget resolution fiscal year 202526? Yes, we do. And you guys have a new chart. It's three pages. And I asked Ashley to give us because there's some terms that we haven't seen a lot lately. And then you have the codes which will explain what those terms are. And um Ashley, let's see if I get this right. This is what This is the proposal. No, it's not the template. What is it? It's the What is it? This is the budget resolution that goes along with the board that was I'm sorry, the um superintendent budget that was approved at the May regular board meeting. So, this is the resolution that goes along with what we've already passed. What you've already passed. So, we're not voting on it, but it's
084it it does look new. and I I had some questions in terms of, you know, everything running down the left side. So, this sheet that you've got explains what's covered under those items so that when we when it goes through under the consensus next week, you'll be able to do it with a clean conscience. Right. So, even though the board did approve the superintendent's budget, we still need to approve this resolution. Um, but I did want to make sure that I communicated I did not include the um 42 um school specialist positions in this resolution. Um, I wanted to see if the county funds that or if the endowment ends up funding that. And once it's funded, I would bring that back as a budget amendment to the board. Okay. But everything else is included.
085If you would like me to go back and add that in, I can. But right now, I don't know that source. There's a revenue source for that right now. Miss Barnharter, you look puzzled. Yes. So, this because we adopted the superintendent budget to move forward to the county. So what what this is just an awareness for us that now we have submitted an ask to the endowment for a portion of that budget ask. Is that is that what's happening with this? Um or I'm just confused about Yep. So we've submitted our ask to the county and so that was part of what was approved in May. Budget was already approved. Okay. And then also in that um budget item in May, I asked um or I I shared that I would bring back a budget
086resolution um that goes that um lines up with the budget that was recommended except I was not going to include the 42 school specialist positions in that resolution until the funny was identified. But it does include like for capital it includes getting the whole amount of that capital asked for you know the county um regular operating appropriation funds it does include getting that ask. Um and what we would do this this is what um passing this resolution would allow us to go ahead and populate that budget into next year and let the schools go ahead and start doing some planning. However, we would not release um budget for like operations wouldn't start doing capital projects until we actually got that revenue for until we saw what the county was actually giving us. But it does
087allow us to go ahead and move forward with some um operating things. Um the other the other option would be and we've done this a little bit differently in the past. If we don't feel comfortable moving forward with this initial resolution and then adjusting it once we know the county funding and the state funding, we could always do um an interim resolution that says we'll continue spending at the same current level of funding um into next year. that um this I felt like um would give us a little bit more flexibility going into the new year. Um so schools could go ahead and start ordering, but we could do it either way. Well, well, I guess that's where I'm Tell me if I'm understanding this right. So, if we basically if we grab this and
088say yes, we can say schools go ahead and start planning, but we're not sure if we're going to get these 42 specialist positions. Rather, the budget that we've already adopted has those 42 included. So, they could start planning and then in a couple months from now say, hey, actually, we didn't get these specialists, so you don't. So, the 42 are not in here. That's what I'm saying. If we if we adopt this resolution, then they have this is the accurate minimum of where you're at knowing that we have this asked that we just don't have funding secure yet that we're waiting to hear back from. We've asked two different groups of people for it as well. Right. Right. So, this this allows an accurate way for our staff to start planning with the potential influx
089of more staffing. Right. Okay. That's correct. Sorry, I misunderstood. All right, Dr. Mayor. Oh, sorry. Help me out. Is this only for internal use then? This does not go to the county, right? This well this will be our initial budget resolution. So, we've already submitted the ask to the county. This will just be for us for our initial budget starting point and then once we get so in essence um this is our estimate and then once we know hard numbers state budgets passed county budgets pass then we will come back and sh all this up based on actual revenue received right but right the county won't get this this is just our starting budget document I just don't want that they're already pushing back about those positions and I don't want to give them any
090ammunition to say, well, you see that they even said to themselves they weren't going to plan on it. You know, I don't want I don't want to weaken our position in any way. Uh if there's any way to say, you know, here is our whole budget. However, we are waiting on this from one of two things. I would just feel more comfortable that we put it all down as if this is really what we want. Just my thoughts. Merrick, could you do that with a footnote on the resolution saying not including the 42 school specialist positions that we've making, you know, a separate ask from the county endowment? Sure. Yeah, I can do that. Just as long as it's printed on there somewhere. And for those of you who aren't as super familiar with the
091budget, um across the top you have columns. Those are our revenue. And just for fun, I'll just pick out one thing. If you go four over from the right, federal grant funding. There was some chatter a couple months back about $50 million. You'll see the number of dollars we're going to get from the federal government. It's 14701 is the estimate right now. 14,71. So, it isn't it is not the significant portion of our budget, but that's how you read this. It's million. Excuse me. What did I say? 14 million. Yeah. 14 million7. um you know across the top is is the revenue across the bottom you'll see the total revenue and then there are the the the the projects and the purposes of the funding and then that second sheet will give you an an
092explanation of every single one of those things for your homework if you want. So, I I agree with my colleagues to be able to secure the funding. My question is, so now that the ask is officially submitted to the endowment for these 42 specialists, that's my understanding of where we're at today. Is there a possibility where county commissioners can, you know, sign a support that we support the school district's ask of the endowment? I don't know if that's a way we can bring in and and just have some joint collaboration of support. They didn't make the ask. We did, our school district did, but can we bring them into the fold in the way of saying maybe you just want to tell them, hey, I support their ask. So, I I have done that after
093our last board meeting in May. I um I'm sorry, in April. Um, I did send an email to um Chris Cudre and um asked that he um send a letter of support and asked if the county if the commissioners would would be willing to also send a letter of support for that um ask of the endowment and I have not heard back from them yet. So, we could follow up on that um when we meet with them Friday to see if letters have been submitted or not. I'd love that, Miss Justice. Yeah. In fact, um part of that meeting has been online and I've watched it and I think they did mention that they were going to do that. I might be wrong, but I think that that was brought up during the discussion on
094on the budget budget. Okay. Um, any thoughts on time that we need for the initial budget resolution? Do we need any further? Do we have you guys need it explained in detail at the meeting? Do we I I don't think that would be a terrible idea to be quite honest. The same things that you went over with me, you know, going across the top, going down and just hitting the highlights. How long do you need for that? I would say five minutes. request. Let's do 10. Um, we have nothing under new business. These codes should be on your link for next week, so you'll be able to pull them up while you're talking. We have nothing under new business. We will have a close session um consensus item, correspondence, announcements, and then adjournment. Mer, are
095we saying 20 minutes for closation? Maybe I'm just gonna say 20. It'll be fairly brief. Um, but for the next several months, you know, we would ask that we have uh consensus for personnel at both meetings simply because this is our prime hiring time. Okay. Well, with the addition of 20 minutes, that puts us at like 3 hours and 45 minutes. I mean, maybe potentially a little bit less as the session. Okay. All right. Um, I will now entertain a motion. Oops, wrong to go into close session pursuant to general statute 143-318.11c for the following purposes. To prevent the disclosure of information is privileged or confidential pursuant to general statute 115 C-402 and not considered a public record within the meaning of chapter 132 of the general statutes. To prevent the disclosure of student records
096read and confidential under the family educational rights to consult with an attorney in order to preserve the attorney client privilege between the attorney and the board. and to consider the qualifications, competence, performance, character, fitness, conditions of appointment or conditions of initial employment of an individual employed or considered for employment within the school system or to hear or investigate a complaint, charge or grievance by or against any individual employee. Do I hear such a motion? Second. Uh discussion hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. Any opposed? Make sure you close your computers. Then you're just not gonna and open. Okay. I make a motion to approve the census item. Okay. Is there a second? All right. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? That passes six to zero. Five.
097Five to zero. Thank you. Five. Um, administrative contracts. Is that part of the That's the whole That's the whole shebang. Yes. I think I think if you approve the personnel agenda, that's in there. Okay. We did. You did. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Thank you. It's getting there. Um, all right. Continuing on. Um, really quick, I wanted to kind of share, it's not on here, but um, things that we need to keep track of. Um, I can probably do that after we talk about board committees. Well, we we let's go to board committees. We had started this discussion a while ago and we've continued it and continued it and continued it. So, I would really love to kind of just um figure out all of the all of the things that we need to figure out. We
098have gone through and we have just to kind of summarize what we've done thus far is we've combined finance, capital, and bond. We have um adjusted legislative to be by annutually meet meet twice a year. um policy has stayed the same. Title N is no longer um and I think that that is where we where we have kind of ended. I do also know that um one of the other committees is has kind of disbanded as well and that would be the turnaround task force but that was not us that was them. Um they haven't disbanded. They have just removed themselves from our from our group. Um so they're not so they're not they're not a school they're not a board committee advisory committee um but we will hear more from them I believe next
099month. Yes. Um to kind of give us an update about all the things that are happening for them. They're they're kind of doing their own thing at this point. that will be in June. Um so as it stands right now that is where we are. We have not um talked a lot about some of the other ones. So let's see uh safety is another one. Um calendar committee curriculum and then what to do with Head Start. Those are the four really that I was looking at um as far as what we want to do. So, uh, Miss Barhard, Madam Chair, from the discussion earlier today, I think that we should revisit reevaluating the curriculum committee. Um, and having input, I I did not have a write up of changes, but just to reconsider revamping that.
100I would second that if that was a motion. Yes. Well, but there's no I don't have a specific write up, but the conversation today, I think it should be. I um I actually have some thoughts as well. Um so because I am new to it um I wanted to kind of have conversations with some of the individuals that have have dealt with it. Um and so it's been there's been a couple iterations of it. Um a while ago there was about 8 to 10 members of it. Um more recently there was about 30 members of it. Um, I think 30 is way too much. Um, I think that that then drowns out a lot of voices. And so my thought was keeping it about 10 and under to include a board member, subject matter expert.
101Um, I believe Dr. DeWalt is I don't know if she would be considered the subject matter expert or if Dr. Hamilton would be the subject matter expert, but e both of them. um an ED representative, uh principal of the year, elementary teacher of the year, middle school teacher of the year, high school teacher of the year, a parent of an elementary student or students, and parent of secondary students um to meet monthly um starting at the end of June um and to talk about things like stamped, to talk about things like wit and wisdom. um when we first were presented with it, we had these stacks of books that we were shown that there was absolutely no way for us to really go through all of them. It was a presentation that we were given.
102I remember it sitting at the in the boardroom looking and just being a little overwhelmed by the the amount of books that there were. And so really kind of digging into Whitton wisdom, finding that if because that according to the um climate survey that we did before, there were some concerns that that staff had with some of the content of Whiten Wisdom. So really just digging into some of those concerns, some of the possible possible I call them hotspots, not thinking like things that are going to that may cause some concern for parents that may cause some concern for teachers, but also making sure that we're there's continuity across the district. How some teachers are teaching it isn't necessarily how other teachers are teaching it. And so just making sure that continuity is there across
103the the district and making sure that um we're building efficacy across the district. So those are some of the things that um that I wanted to kind of bring forward to the board and just kind of share those are my thoughts as far as moving forward what what I feel like the curriculum committee um would look like and I think would benefit us more because I don't know if that was necessarily the focus in the past. Oh, I don't know which hand was up first. Miss Barnhart, thank you. I I mean I I like hearing all that. I would also emphasize um a rolling need for scaffolding supports. You know, we talk about how we're supporting our multilingual students. We talk about our AIG population of how we're doing that again with that building that
104collective efficacy across the district of what that looks like. So not in in addition to just the content being but it how we are providing those supports um to different areas our EC population I know that that was part of this was this was part of the reason why Witten Wisdom was adopted is we had these built-in um pockets that were able to address those in hopes that it kind of took something off our staff so that they had these supports built in and were able to provide that cross sectionality. So I'd love to see that. I know we had met that was the AP teachers uh what a year and a half ago they said that was the first time they came together as a district in front of the board to actually kind
105of have a conversation about what it looks like because a lot of times they're stand alone at each of the high schools right they're an AP math teacher an AP English teacher of how we can provide um and I think there's now um oh I can't think of the word right now whenever they come together what's the grouping PLC's PLC's things like that to have that to bring that continuity. So, I I love that idea, though. My only um addition would be to talk about maybe there could be a scaffolding focus at different meetings to talk about different supports for we're providing in addition to elementary, middle school, high school, and to kind of go off of that. And I know that Miss Justice and Miss Bradford have their hand up. Um, but really the
106other thing that that was mentioned, not just those points that I had brought up, but making sure that we're not just focusing on one area of curriculum because we do have several different areas of curriculum and really highlighting, you know, that that continuity, that efficacy. Um, and I think it's great to to kind of talk and and bring in um the different individuals to present uh to the to the committee itself to say, okay, here's the pitfalls. here's, you know, how can we kind of problem solve? So, I think that that that could definitely be part of the discussion, you know. Um, Miss Justice, uh, yes. Um, we had a curriculum committee for many years and then they disbounded it. I think about 2015 16. Um, I came on the board in 2018, talked to
107Dr. Smith about it at the time, Sean Smith, and um, we decided to reinitiate it, bring it back to life. And the main reason was because the staff was concerned that they needed support in curriculum changes and things that were going on. So the way we had it designed is we had um experts in in curriculum in in areas like social studies, ELA um and whoever was in charge of that district-wide would meet. So we I think altogether we had maybe 10 12 people at the most along with u this it was that time Dr. Smith she was in charge of curriculum uh then a school board member and they would bring different concerns that they had each month and different supports for teachers like you were just talking about you know the different things
108that different curriculums need for different times. So it was it was fluid but it met the needs mainly. It was focused on what the staff needed and um so it's a really valid committee but it needs to be structured in my opinion around the effectiveness of curriculum in the classroom for the staff and the students. Uh the parents um they are more than welcome to have say but our curriculum is based on states state provided standards that we you know have to follow. Um, a lot of it had does have to do with whoever's in charge of our curriculum in the school district itself is how much they want to get involved and how much direction they want to do in steering it. Dr. Smith quite got quite good for the year or two where
109it was being very effective and we were actually the teachers loved it. We had it televised and they were able to see different things going on with different curriculums. It was very, you know, as I said, it was very focused on what was going on in the classroom and what was useful for the kids and the staff. So I mean that's how we we structured it before. It was less and I'm going to say it straight. It was less parent driven and and it was needs of this of the classroom driven which to me is always the number one reason to do anything in the schools. Miss um was miss was yours in the form of a motion? Is there a motion on the No, it was just a suggestion to of of you know
110when talking with individuals who had been part of it. um just what might work well, what what has worked in the past, what hasn't worked in the past, and just kind of trying to figure out um and and the reason that parents were added was was because one, we do have parents do have concerns. And you know, as much as I agree, we want to make sure that it's student teacher focused, we also need to take in consideration that there are parents out there that are involved that do want to know, you know, and do want to be be part of the discussion. Um, and so I want to make sure that their voices are heard as well. And so that's why that was kind of part of why that had been suggested. Um, in
111general, well, I'd like to frame a motion to do that, but I still go back to thinking we need three board members on it. Right now, it's advisory. It needs to become a real committee. And I like the idea of the 10. It's starting to look, you know, combination. Um, and I I really think that a motion to create to reorganize the curriculum committee to, as you suggested, but put three board members on make some real decisions to bring to the whole board instead of just being what it is. But the curriculum person hasn't chimed in on this. So, I'd want to hear from her. I can ask Dr. Hamilton if you chime in. What are your thoughts, Dr. Hamilton? So, I um I feel like I'm on the spot right now. I'm not really
112sure what my thoughts are about this right now about actually moving it from advisory committee to a a committee committee. I think that's a board decision and what the board wants to do. And certainly, I would follow suit with whatever the board decided that you all wanted to do. And I will just say that we'll work with it either way that it is. That would be standing versus advisory. It's it's I've got the list up here and it's so outdated and so there's other things I want to talk about that's on here, but there's some stuff that's really old and I know it took us forever to get these things. I think Miss Barnhart drove that bus for a while two years ago and we finally got some of this stuff right. Um but now
113it's time to do it again. Um, but I just think that we've got these issues we could actually deal with and bring recommendations to the board that the whole board could do. And and so I would I would I I would make the motion that we adopt the suggestions of the chair, but switching it from uh advisory to standing, adding the three board members to the to the existing board member, Miss Mason, and um and you know, see see what you can get done. I mean, having been the curriculum advisory person for two years and we literally did nothing. Um, it, you know, I I don't like to call 20 people together to do nothing, right? Which is why I don't want to call 20 people together. Um, Dr. Mer. Oh, there was a motion.
114Is there a second? Okay, Dr. Merrick. Um, I think there's always a real delicate dance between what is the board's perview and what is the district's purview and certainly we've seen across the country certain abuses of that delicate balance. Um, it might show up where the board just doesn't pay attention and the school district goes off, you know, on a wild uh hair in one way or another. But I think it's also very we're seeing more and more where school boards are are dictating um in areas of pedagogy that they don't actually have experience. And I would like and I'm sorry to do this to you, Dr. Barnes, but I would like you to weigh in on where you see the balance about what we're talking about right now. Sorry. I have a handout. He
115came prepared. The handout is on the print. Cool. I think the the devil's going to be in the details, right? And it always is. I think that as long as the board respects the the import and the and the input of the staff, I think then we're going to continue to do just fine. I think where that balance is really can be a lot of different things. It can be three board members in there. It can be two board members. doesn't really that's not really a factor. I think as long as like you just said that we're working collaboratively, that we're working collectively, and that we're not feeling that that curriculum committee is devised to negatively impact what's going on in classrooms. And I I think that the rest of that is is nuance, right?
116Does that make sense? Well, if if we do have it as a committee, a regular board committee, then those three board members are voting and even though they might be getting input from the staff, they also might be ignoring input from the staff. And I like it when it's an advisory committee because it's still being driven by staff. Um, oh my. I don't know. I kicked the horn's nest, I guess. I think Miss Bradford and my thought has always been that we started with finance, which hadn't met until he became the superintendent. We had one meeting and then we've created this really productive committee. And my idea was to pattern it like that, which is basically what you proposed. And even though we've had voting board members on there um and but we're not it
117it's a collaborative effort and it's working really well. And my idea was if we could do something like that and make the results that we've made I mean I you know I can't I'm stunned at where we are in one year with that committee with the two of them and everybody else that sits on that committee what we've accomplished. It's night and day. And I think that we can do that again with curriculum. And that was my point. Um there's never been any driver that was, you know, politically motivated. Um it's it's a good mix of people that have different ideas and it's working really well. And that was my that was my suggestion to do this because it could it can work and it can really move the ball into where this time next
118year we're sitting in a completely different place and a lot of things have gotten dealt with like you know we had this nightmare of of the budget process where the whole county was in an uproar and now it's really nothing. It's just the budget process. So that's what I'm hoping for. Um, Mr. Barry, um, my only concern with this kind of a committee as opposed it being a, uh, board committee versus, um, an advisory committee. Um, is I don't I think we heard about it a little bit in the climate survey. Teachers don't want to be micromanaged. They don't want to be told you have to teach this way with this stuff in this particular manner. We need to trust our teachers. They can use their own creativity to do that. Setting some general guidelines
119as far as the curriculum, good things, but I don't want to mandate you shall teach this way. So that's my only concern and I don't think that's the intent of I don't think that's the intent of the of the way that I have discussed with people. U Miss Justice um this isn't finance. It's a huge difference. Curriculum and finance are two different worlds. Uh curriculum is what we teach in the classroom that's dictated by the state. We have no choice. Then you have the teachers wonderful professional input and the kids feedback. It all works together. An advisory board makes sense. That's what we had. I'm sorry that for a couple years there, the comm sounds like the curriculum committee was sort of semi-destroyed by adding way too many people and never even meeting. But when
120Dr. Smith was here, we were very productive in the few times that we were able to carry it out and it was mainly geared towards improving curriculum the state already provided with what we have here locally. Um I don't we here we were complaining about how many committees we're having and suddenly we're trying to grow one especially one that needs to be streamlined to be not 20 people needs to meet in order to meet the needs of the kids and the students. And so that that's an advisory is what it was. I see no reason to turn to a actual committee itself if you really are focused on what's best for everybody involved. You're talking about people meeting extra times, uh, that they're not necessarily needed. If you're going to have meetings, you should be
121focused on staff and curriculum. As I said, the state dictates it. We don't have a lot of flexibility. Most of the flexibility goes on in the classroom with professional training. So, um, you know, if you want to go ahead and enlarge it, add three staff me board members, this is not what we were originally talking about when we were talking about streamlining committees. This is expanding it. And I'm not sure how us late I'm not a lay person because I have been in education a long time. Most of the people on the board were lucky enough to have some background in education, but none of us are the professionals that go on the classrooms every day. So I am sort of like what Mr. Perry said. I'm not I'm not about to start changing things
122up in that area, but we do need to advise and expand with what's going on in the classroom as far as supporting the teachers and what they're doing. Miss um I mean the state sets the standards and this board adopted a curriculum that we utilize and we have a couple streamlined curric curriculum that we use. Um and part of the process and adoption and I we many of us were new board members when this was brought to our attention two months in to adopt it and it was under the expectation of saying you know we're not going to use everything under the sun. there's going to be some things that we say, "Hey, we really hate this second grade module for whatever reason, and we're not going to do it. Instead, we're going to do
123this lesson and again with efficacy." So, uh, this is this is something that I see as an opportunity. We're sitting here talking at our next meeting about the oral history component and the database that we want to help to amplify the staff and the resources we have in our district. So, I think this could be a wonderful opportunity to help bring us into the fold to understand the to understand this is where we're going. This is how we're accomplishing the goal. And it's not just because Dr. Hamilton's sitting over there that her kids are going to get it in the school that she's teaching in. We want to make sure that every single kid across the district is having access to the high value content. So I I am fine with saying let's tweak some
124of these you know the initial thoughts and if we want need to send this to policy and then you know the policy chair can reach out and have some more communication. I just I I I'm smiling because I know you might you might love that job. But I the reality is I'm fine with saying let's mle it over. But if we're talking about opportunities to to discuss um collaboratively about scaffolding for our students, if we're talking about creating opportunities and databases of how we can ensure that quality content is for every single child, I think this is a no-brainer. And so I think these as a as a way for us to do that, I'm in support of it. Mr. And I also throw my colleague over there also. We just got a handout and
125if you look at the handout uh which is I think a very very very good handout. It says very clearly the curriculum and budget approval approved the annual budget which is one piece u and make and major changes in curriculum and educational programs. And I think really we need to be part of that discussion to be able to do that. I mean, not to just have me do a presentation and say this is what we're going to do and have, you know, and just we vote on it. Um, and I think, you know, I think in my personal humble opinion, I don't think we should chair that committee necessarily because I think really we have, you know, professionals here that that need to do that. But I mean, as far as having whether it's two
126members, three members, one member, I think really I got it. One member there is just kind of listening, two members can actually or three members can give input. I would I would think that maybe having a little bit more as far as streamlining. You already have a committee. So, it's not adding committee and subtracting committee. It's maybe changing where they are on on the whole thing. Uh but it it's it's right here. If if we take this diagram, which I think is again a very good diagram. Um it it says that's part of our purview and I think it is. Uh I don't know that we need to come in there like I say and go gang busters. We need to start changing stuff. I think we need to let the professionals as as my
127colleague over there said I think we need to let professionals lead the way and but uh I think we we also need to be part of that conversation. Uh and I think we are whether it's a advisory committee or whether it's committee committee but I mean whe it's a committee either way. So I don't know where we're at committees to that point. I'm looking at um policy and if it's a board standing committee, it has a chair to it. Um that is not staff. There's a subject matter expert if I'm reading correctly. Um advisory committees are chaired by staff. So that's the difference. Can I not go for it? But you know, can I not add that we have more than one member on because I think that is still our we changed policy to
128add that. Yes, you can speak an advisory that we have multiple members on. I'll give that example CTE. That might be a good compromise. So, if we Okay, so the original motion and I do see your hand. Um, the original motion is to take my recommendations, add two board members and make it a board standing committee, which would then make it ours and we chair it. Well, now if is that am I understanding that correctly, Miss Bradford? So yes, it was and and and and my thinking was I'm chairing finance, capital, and bond now. But I don't do anything without Ashley and without him. It's it's a three-way thing. Um I'm just the person that opens the meeting and close the meeting basically and and and keeps everybody talking. Gotcha. Um so it's it's not
129like you're setting I mean we don't do anything like it's not like policy. Yeah. It's it's I'm not running the show at all. I'm just the facilitator because you have to have somebody to do that. So again, I was thinking the model by doing that and modeling after what's so successfully working with this committee that we have now. So yes, that is my motion. Okay, Dr. I would like to amend the motion to adopt the changes that the chair has recommended in terms of the number of people that are on the committee, adding more board members, meeting more often uh but keeping it as a advisory committee so that we have the chair being our expert uh professional expert. I said that. Okay. Can I Mr. Question of information? How many members would you recommend?
130I I thought you said three. Oh, you're talking about the the members of the board. She said 10 and yeah three board members and then 10 of the There's no disagreement with that. Okay. All right. Any discussion on the amendment, Miss Justice? Well, again, uh we're trying to streamline cities, not enlarge them. And I think that that's why I think an advisory will make more sense. Also, two board members would be just as in my opinion would just be as effective as three. I know that you say you want to jump in there and be part of it. But you're going to find out once you get in there, most of the talk is around curriculum and everybody else is the ones that really need to be putting the input in. Uh we are we
131have input, but the main input needs to be coming from people in the classroom every day. And this is statemandated. You guys, we have got to follow what we are. You know, they're above us, what they tell us to do and what they provide us with. All right, we have about five minutes. Miss Bradford. Um, I would think that we'd want to ask our curriculum director if she's comfortable chairing this or if she, you know, because there it it does put an extra amount of work on your if you have to chair something. And when you share that burden like we're doing, it doesn't put a you know, I'm not making those decisions. We the three of us make those decisions because he's always in the background on everything. Um, so Dr. Hson I know
132we're putting you on the threat, but I mean I don't I don't want to vote for that to make you have to increase your workload at all. I'm that's not what we're here for. I'm trying to decrease your workload. Well, that's very nice of you and I appreciate that so much. Um I will say so my goal now is to increase collective efficacy across the district. So I think utilizing whether it's an advisory committee or a regular board committee regardless I think that's a great place to be able to come together with a singular focus each month and work on that um that and then some particular areas as well um curriculum wise or yeah curriculum I'll just say that curriculum wise subject-wise um to make sure that we're doing all we can to create
133that um like Miss Barnhart said um the same opportunities that every teacher has access to those same opportunities so that every child is getting the very highest quality that any child in this district is getting. Right? So either way um I think that um it's work that I enjoy, it's work that I want to do and whether I whatever kind of partner I have in that whether I think you talked about um how you Dr. Barnes and Miss Sutton work together. So, well, I would just see it that way as a collaborative work regardless. So, under those circumstances, you're going to need one board member to be that lead person because you can't do it with three. And that was the point of standing versus advisory. It's not some big plot. Real quick, Dr. Barnes,
134I could be real quick. I think it's fair to say that as a board you guys are looking for opportunities and ways to vocally and show that you're supporting staff and supporting the district. This is a great opportunity too for you guys to be a part of something that's designed to do just that. I think I would my only thing would be I would I would say say you did two members, right? I would say you rotate every year to make sure over the course of time in the time that you are being here as a board member that you have access to opportunity everyone has an opportunity to engage in that work as well because that builds efficacy amongst you guys as well. So there is an amendment on the table to um adopt
135my recommendations with the addition of two board members and make it keep it as an board advisory committee. I think I got all of it. M will you call the role? Miss Justice? Yes. Dr. Merrick? Yes. Mr. Perry? Yes. Miss Barnhard? Sure. Miss Mason? Yes. Miss Bradford? Doesn't matter. It's already done, so either one. I don't care. Yes. Okay. And Mr. Ward. Sir, was that a yes? Yes, that was definitely yes. All right, that passes 72 zero. Um, that was an amendment. So, we do have to vote on the was a replacement. Do we have it? It's a replacement amendment. We don't have to vote on that. Do we have to vote on that? Attorney, we're good. What? He's talking. Miss Bradford, we have one minute before we leave committees. Um, you have me down
136as the person for Head Start. Can we suspend that committee for now until Head Start comes back around? Okay. I motion I would like to make a substitute motion and we need to have a prek committee because we have hopefully we'll have Head Start again, but we have NC preK and local preK classes. So, I would like for there to be a constant representative to support our preK students. So, I would make a substitute motion to um readress the Head Start committee to revamp it to be prek and work with our director to do that. Um and can I amend that? We have We're at six o'clock. Uh I just want to amend it to take me off and put Miss Barnhard on. Well, that is that is not something you can do. I think
137she's trying to say something. Sorry. All right. So there there is a motion to readress head start and change it to prek a prek leazison. A prek liaison. Um all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? That passes 7 to zero. We are at time and we didn't get everything done. But can we add committees back at another point? Don't we have to do the the summer plan? That was in the consensus. That was in consensus. We did that. Um, so before I entertain the motion, I'm going to ask for one minute because I need to announce to you guys a motion to extend for five minutes. All right. Thank you. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Passes 70. Okay. Um, so a couple um things we
138need to do. Uh, just want to make sure that everybody is aware of the following things that are happening next week that are some of the most fun parts of our job. Um, so we have on Tuesday before our regular meeting at 4:30 our recognition of future teacher scholarship winners. We're going to celebrate them. That'll be back there. They're going to sign their stuff. We had some amazing interviews. It was awesome. Um, that is tomorrow. Not tomorrow, next Tuesday at 4:30. Yep. 4:30. Next Tuesday on the 6th. On the 7th, there is a retirement banquet at 6:30 p.m. at the Brooklyn Arts Center. Yep. On Thursday, the teacher of the year banquet at 6 PM. Um, also at Brooklyn Art Center 6 and the other one's at 6:30. So, retirement banquet is at 6:30. Teacher
139of the year is at 6. Um, I highly recommend that if you are a newbie, you should go to these. These are so much fun. You get to celebrate. It's It's amazing. Um, the food is um teacher of the year is on Thursday 6 p.m. at 6 p.m. Brooklyn Arts. Brooklyn Arts. Um, and then the other thing really briefly is July meeting. Originally, it is scheduled for July 1st. July 1st. I'd like to make a motion that we do that on the 8th. Um, so there's a motion to move the July meeting to the second week of July rather than the first since it is a holiday week. Was that due to policy? Listen, sir. All right. So, there's a motion to move it. Is there a second? Second. Second. Okay. Uh, any discussion? Then
140you move it out. All right. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? That passes. And so you could move policy out a week. All right. So that is all that I have. I can do that next week. Do what now? Uh yes. Okay. I'll throw it in. Um if you could make a motion to add that next week. I'll make a motion to add I mean next week when we get there. Next week I'll do that. Okay. Okay. I recommend that. I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Get her done. We We We are at We have two minutes. Judy, I'll make All right. Miss Justice has something to say. Actually, this is more of this is a request from Miss Buoie. Um we're running into a graduation time
141and we're going to have lots of fun figuring out how all that schedules and where and when and how. I'm working on that. That's what I was about to say. The sooner the get that out, the better right now. That is me. I've Okay, thank you. That's me, not her. Well, I mean, she's the one sends it out, so I guess you're the one that I need the uh All right. All right. All those in favor of adjournment signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? We are adjourned.