Wayne County Board of Education Meeting 1/13/2026

001Six liter. >> No, >> that's V8. >> I know. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's a 6 Okay. >> Nope. >> One minute till >> or so. >> Dennis is calling. >> Dennis is here. >> Yes, >> he's on. >> Yes. >> How are you? >> Good. How are you? How many of those movies? >> Yeah, they were they had it now. >> You got six. >> That's not good. >> All right. 6 o' So, we will go ahead and get started. We're going to go ahead and call our regular meeting of the Wayne County Board of Education to order. And if you'll stand, we'll say the pledge. >> Mark, you want to lead us this evening? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

002stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Let the record show that all board members are present in person. U Mr. Ashworth is joining us by phone this evening. [clears throat and snorts] to be here [laughter] >> and we will begin with recognitions this evening if we have any. >> No recognitions and no presentations. >> Okay. So, we can move on then to our [snorts] good news. We've got some CT accountability results. >> Yeah. In the separate packet that you were provided this evening, the very first page of that >> has the uh state CT. We've talked about this before, but I never saw the numbers. >> Um, >> has the state CTE accountability results >> and u, as I mentioned to you before at a previous meeting, Wayne County

003uh was tied at number one with Hardy County >> with with 100 points overall. >> So, I just wanted to share that this evening. That was good news. >> Excellent. [clears throat] >> Anybody else? Any other good news? Yeah, under good news, we uh I spoke with our fire instructor this week and there was a generous contribution, brand new 20 sets of bunker gear that was contribute or given to our fire services class. So >> keep getting better. It's >> not costing us anything, >> right? >> The class or the equipment, >> right? [laughter] >> Class is growing. So >> yes, >> that's great. >> Anybody else? Okay, let's move on to ourformational items. No school on January the 19th, 2026. That's Martin Luther King Day. Um, we have some school con consolidation and closure

004hearings beginning on Tuesday, January the 20th at 6 o'clock at Dunlow Elementary. Uh, consolidation and closure meeting on Wednesday, January 21st, beginning at 5 atrum. Another consolidation closure meeting on Thursday, January 22nd, beginning at 6 at Genanoa. Another on um Friday, January 23rd, beginning at 5 at Eastland. And then a second one at Wayne Elementary beginning at 7 o'clock. Regular board meeting on Tuesday, January 27th, beginning at 6 here in the conference room. Everyone okay with all those dates and times? >> Busy work next week. Yes, I did tell Todd uh previously on the one Wednesday at Crumb I may have to call in. I've got a court hearing in Charleston that afternoon. >> Okay. >> All right. Let's move on to our construction project updates. >> So, the uh the active project that we

005have going on now is the major improvement project. It's uh CK Alumni Gym. That is in your separate packet items. That's page number two. You will see a progress update there. And then I have a few pictures to go along with that. >> It's probably just one, but these are >> Yeah, I know. Yeah, I would say we'll get if you can see that. Mark, I don't know if you can see. You guys move if you need to. >> I'm good. >> Okay. the uh upstairs of the gym is being sprinkled for fire protection safety. So this is some of the piping that's been installed. >> They should finish that up in the next week and a half. >> This is uh looking from the parking lot out uh towards uh towards Route 60. This

006is where they connected the fire suppression system. So, [snorts] this was the change order that you approved. >> Okay. >> Uh we originally thought we were going to be able to hook it to the uh water line out in the alley. It did not have enough water pressure. So, we had to go back to where the original fire suppression line for the new school was connected. So, all this was taken out. This is where they had to dig up to run a new line over to the gym. >> [clears throat] >> This is uh looking from the baseball field back towards the gym. So it so it shows the same. >> Yeah. [cough] This is new HVAC duct work being installed in the u in the basement. Of course, the purpose of this project is

007is the school is growing. Um it's a good problem to have, but they are at 100% capacity in the building. It's at 100% utilization. So, we're trying to free up some space in case there's any additional growth. >> And we could have classrooms over there, right? >> Yeah. And so, um, it would not be full-time classrooms. No student would be there for the entire day, but it would be like a related arts type thing where they were in and out, >> right? >> So, HBAC duck work is being installed there. >> There's another shot. Now, did that include the air conditioning for the for the gym itself? >> No, >> just the downstairs, right? >> Just the downstairs. Um, we did do an alternate to include the gym upstairs for the air conditioning portion, and

008it was $1 million for that. Close to a million dollars just for that. >> Okay. I was thinking that was that was the case, but I just want to make sure. >> Okay. This is uh showing some of the returns that they're installing. um they um to run those in. They are uh closing up these doors. So, this is some of the work that's going on there. And again, there's uh more of the uh sprinkler lines you can see here running across in the upstairs. So, I think they're almost finished with the upstairs if I remember correctly. >> And then this week, it'll be done up there. >> So, it's moving along nicely. That's all I had for construction project updates. I know that the um restrooms concession for uh Fort Gay is scheduled to

009start maybe >> Yeah. scheduled to start Monday. The concrete work is done there. Um we're going to go to Crumb next. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> As soon as we can get the dirt. >> Yeah. As soon as it ths out, it'll be done. and they'll pour conc'll pour concrete there and uh and they'll come do the meal for us. >> So, we have tresses. Uh we had talked about when we were at Wayne, we're going to do a bus shelter for down there, right? >> And uh so the trusses are going to be uh we originally had those at Fort Gay and Crumb. We're going to use those for th for those buildings, but u we went a different route there. So, we're going to move those trusses up to Wayne High School.

010Um, and then we'll see. Everybody's tied up with the projects that are going on now, but at at some point here before the close of the year, even if it's early summer, they'll get that bus shelter up. >> We we we met with the principal the other day and they decided where it needed to be between the two schools where they come out and wait on the buses. So, it'll be somewhere. I might move it a little bit with the water in the ground. >> Yeah. But it'll be uh 60 foot long. >> Wow. >> Oh, wow. That's good. >> That'll be a nice Yeah. >> Nice cover. >> Good. Yeah. Good. >> It'll be like a pavilion cover. Yeah. It's been a long time coming, let me tell you. >> That'll be nice. >>

011Excellent. >> That's all I have. >> Okay. All right. I don't think we have any delegations this evening. So, we can move on to our superintendent reports. >> Okay. Okay, first thing up and we're going to go to your uh we're going to go to your uh separate attachments that I gave you this evening. >> The third item in your separate attachments and Dennis, I know you're on the phone. I emailed this to everybody today. So, you have access in your email to all these documents and then I'll save you your hired copies as well. The third >> Yeah, I took a look at them. >> Okay. Yeah. The third item is just an explanation as to the different steps. >> Uh it's kind of a guide to the preliminary comps, but really what I

012want to concentrate on this evening, if you go to the fourth item, we'll get to the preliminary comps themselves. And the first page that you have here is a document that uh Jeb had created that shows um a comparison of the preliminary computations for this year. I'm sorry, they're actually for next fiscal year, but they were just released here in December. Um compared to the final computations uh for this year. So it's the amount of money we receive this year compared to what we're projected to receive next year. Now again it's important to note the these are preliminary. We do expect changes as it moves along but it gives us an idea of uh what the numbers are going to be for budget purposes. So, first up is step one, which is your net allowance

013for professionals. [clears throat] And uh we are slated to see a decrease of $85,597 for uh professional salaries. Step two is your allowance for your service personnel salaries. We're scheduled to see a decrease of $31,173 there. the allowance for the fixed charges. So these are benefits related items. We're expected to see a decrease of 113,000 there. Allowance for transportation, parts, [snorts] fuel, etc. is expected to decrease by $80,717. But our bus replacement amount is actually going to increase by $10,896. Allowance for student support personnel that is our uh uh counselor positions, social work positions, um those that is expected to decrease by $63,000. Allowance for other current expenses, again falling into that benefits category, is expected to increase by 142,000. Allowance for substitutes is going to decrease by 29,000. >> Uh faculty senate funds are

014slight dip of $2,800. Um allowance for improved instruction is going to increase by about $50,000. And of course, these these are earmarked. Our 21st century technology funds have to be spent on technology. That amount is increasing to 1.3 million which is 119,000 increase. Our advanced placement monies that we can use to offset cost of advanced placement courses for students is decreasing just by $148. Our teacher and leader induction >> is showing an increase of $432,000. Now again, that money is earmarked for uh support for teachers in their first three years. >> Why is that going up so much? >> I don't know. I don't know. It took a significant jump last year, too. >> Um I'll be surprised if that holds, >> but that's what the early projection is. So, when all is said and

015done, you look at number eight. When all is said and done, that's a loss of $640,96. But you you have to remember that we've got a big number there with that teacher and leader induction. And that money is earmarked and can't be used for general purposes. >> So, the uh the reduction actually came out probably to about $1.2 million that we're looking in actual operating costs. And you remember we had projected it would be about 1.3 >> uh a few months ago right >> when we saw the enrollment numbers. Now item number nine, step number nine, that local share deduction, that is the projected tax collections in the county that will that the state will use that number to subtract from our total funding uh because we're collecting that locally and our local shares is

016projected to be at $220,000. And so you see that item number 10, our total basic state aid is scheduled to be $39 million. Uh that's after the subtraction of the local share deduction of of 7.9 million. So again, we were originally slated to receive 47.2 million in the projections, but you subtract that 7.9, that takes you down to a total of 39.2 2 million is what we're projecting to receive. That's a decrease of $861,519. Going back to what I said before, if you look at that teacher and later induction, that one item, uh, if you take that out, it's it's a deduction of about 1.2 million. And that's what you see there in the next line when it shows the unrestricted state aid overall. All the items up above that are restricted. If you if

017you do not count those in, we're losing about $1.2 million, which is very close to the projection. Actually, a little less than we projections, a little bit less than what we projected. So, that's that's a good thing. Okay, going to the next page. I'm going to skip through some of these pages because we just summarized all this. That that first sheet was a summary sheet, but this actually breaks it down and you you see statewide what the numbers are. So, page one is step one. Page two is step two and so forth. We're going to go to Page eight, this is enrollment information. So again, when you look at these pages, if you go to the far right, you'll see what what the final number is when everything is factored in. So we are going

018to be funded for 5,693 students.82 5,693.82. You go to page nine. It starts showing you the professional educator data. So for professional positions, we are over again looking at the far right, >> we're scheduled to be over 62.68 positions next year. >> Wow. >> Now again, that's just a projection. >> That's if we don't take any action. Sure. >> Then we would be over 62.68 if we stand pat with where we stand now. And as you know, for the last several years, this number keeps popping back up into the 60s after there's been significant cuts made to bring that number down. When the enrollment drops again, then the number goes back up. Page 10, you see 78 positions over formula. This is for service personnel. [clears throat] Page 11 gives you your ratios of number

019of employees um per thousand that are employed. If you go to page 10 >> I'm sorry 12 that gives the calculations using those formulas. So it shows that they will fund 412 professional positions. Page 13 is for professional support personnel and it shows you for professional support personnel that were over approximately 3.79 positions. Page 14 is a summary of both. So they put the professional student support personnel with the professional educators The next to last column to the right shows again that we're over 62.51 on the professional side. >> Yeah. >> And it shows that they're going to fund positions in total including student support personnel. Your next page over 15 include service personnel. Shows that 306.69 are going to be funded. Okay. Then you have your next two pages which starts over with pages

020one and two. So this was a separate document. This gives you a breakdown of every uh district in the state. shows you what the total allowance is. The local share that's being subtracted out, the percentage of that local share to total allowance, what the new state aid allowance is after the deduction, and the percentage percentage of net state aid to total allowance. So, uh, what this is showing in that column on the far right is that 83.19% of our funding comes from the state. 16.81 comes from local funds. Page two, this will be the final page. This is the exact same information except it's ranked [clears throat] from the counties most dependent upon state aid with the highest percentages >> of state aid the total allowance to the bottom and you'll see there's three counties

021at the bottom of the page. That's Marshall County, Tyler County, and Wetzel County that receive zero state aid. And that's because of the local tax collections. >> Wow. >> And we received the fourth most. >> We received the fourth most at 83.19%. Unfortunately, what that means is we're >> we're more affected by enrollment losses. You know, the higher that percentage is, the more those enrollment losses impact you because a significant portion of the budget comes from that state aid. If we go back to page one in our budget planning, the number that we're really looking at is about right below the 10, right below the total basic state aid. Uh that unrestricted state aid. That's the number that we're working off of for budget planning and that shows the 1,291,477 decrease that we'll have to

022adjust for. But that was very close to the projection that we had provided before. So no surprises there. So that's a lot of information. And again, I've given you the instruction uh sheet that explains what each of those items are. Again, this very top page was created by Jeb. Everything after that is a u is from the state. So, as you look that over um in the coming days, if you have any questions, just reach out to me. Looks to me like just as a generalization most of those counties that are at the top in getting aid with what I call coal country. >> Yeah. So, as we get to our January 27th meeting and or February meeting, we'll continue to do budget work and looking at how to get those numbers in line. >>

023Okay, >> that's all I have unless you have any questions. >> I want to move on to the departmental budgets. Sorry, >> just go ahead. Okay, next up in your packet is our departmental budget. So, previously at the previous board meeting, we had went over the food service and the technology budget. I know there were some questions that came up. Lisa, I believe you provided some email answers to folks >> budget. >> Was there any more questions regarding those items? >> I don't I don't I don't have any. Do you all have any other questions? >> No, I don't either. No, >> just reach out to me anytime you have questions. >> Okay. And we'll we'll move on then to the u we're going to look at the maintenance budgets. Now, there's two separate items

024for maintenance. There's the operation of buildings. That's the next what's next up in your packet. >> Okay. >> And then also stapled with that is the maintenance of buildings. So we're going to start with the operation of buildings the very top page. So these particular funds are there for the day-to-day operation of the district facilities. It's custodial cost. So um the cost of the all the custodians. It's a uh service staffing within the building, employee benefits, utilities, uh water, sewer, uh rentals, uh insurance costs, those types those types of cost. They're us largely non-discretionary and are influenced by staffing levels, the number of custodians assigned at each uh building, and they're very dependent upon utility rates, insurance premiums, that type of thing. So, the budget for fiscal year 2026 for the operation of buildings is

0257.6 million. Now, I've included some information on where we are as we stand, and these numbers are relevant as to the end of December. So, our year-to-ate expenses are at 4.1 million. There's an additional 2 million encumbered. So, that's a total commitment of 6.2 that is already spoken for. Again, encumbrances can be spent during the second semester. So, it's not spent. it's just been reserved for specific purposes, which leaves an available balance of about 1.3 million. So the percent committed is about 81.8%. So the key drivers of this budget, the big ticket items are listed next. That's energy utilities. We have a $1.8 million budget for utilities over the course of the year. 964,000 has been spent year to date. There's 833 available in that budget. So, if we go over that, then we'll have

026to pull from that available balance. >> Insurance, uh, slightly over a million dollars is the budget. There's been 566,000 spent so far for insurance. service salaries. Those custodial salaries are a big ticket item. Uh $1.9 million in custodial salaries are in the budget. Uh there's been approximately 799,000 spent year to date. We have 1.2 million that is encumbered benefits. So that includes um social security, retirement, workers comp. Those are currently in in the current budget. We're going to have to move some of that money out of that available balance to help cover those. Water and sewage, there's a $325,000 budget there. You spent $254,000 spent year to date. There's only 70,000 available, so we'll have to move some of the money there to cover that. Uh the utility cost is up. supplies general. Uh this

027is custodial supplies. 295,000 has been spent year to date. Uh we have an additional $25,000 encumbered. So we'll have to pull from that available balance to raise that budget for custodial supplies as well. Overall, the operation of buildings uh remains within its fiscal year 26 total appropriation with 1.3 million available at midy year. But again, some of that is going to be spoken for. So summary, this is a keep the lights on budget. Again, as of December 31st, 81.8% was committed. On the back of that page, utilities and insurance timing, seasonality remain the largest factors determining where where the uh budget for this particular line item lands. And then I've included some pages for you. >> These are actual printouts from Weeus. So the first page is the operations of the building year to date.

028So every one of the years listed 21 22 23 24 25 all those is as of December 31st. >> Okay. >> Including 2026 there. So it's an applesto apples comparison. >> Yeah. >> Your next page over says operations of buildings end of year. Those are June 30th amounts for the years 2021 through 2025. That's how much is spent for the entire year over over the course of those years. But the 2026 amount obviously we're not at the end there. So that again that's the December 31st uh total. So it just kind of gives you an idea of what you're on track to spending. >> [snorts] >> Now, as before we present this information to you, and I know it's a lot to go through, so at the next meeting, we'll make room on the agenda

029for any questions that you might have. [clears throat] One of the things I noticed on the back of that second page is those general supplies. Those are custodial supplies. >> Just prices. >> That's something we're going to be taking a close look at. >> That was my question. What kind of an inventory system do we have on those types of things? >> They run an inventory system out of the warehouse. Okay. So they have a computer program that uh where the custodians, you know, they punch in what they need and that shows up on the inventory out at the warehouse so we can track deliveries, that type of thing. So if we think expenditures are getting out of hand at any one building, we can kind of compare it to similar size buildings. >> Make

030sure we're not over >> Yeah. >> supplying one place over another. Yeah. >> And I'm sure just general cost is up compared to what it has been in the past. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> All right. Moving on to the next page. The second account in the maintenance fund and Mr. Stanley is here and this is the one that he operates out of more than the other. Um this is the uh this is the uh the maintenance budget. So, your maintenance men are in this in these accounts, their salaries, and then, you know, HVAC parts, all of the big ticket items that are needed uh for maintenance of the buildings or for construction projects uh that are not coming out of state funds or federal funds. So, the budget uh for the year is u

031$3 million. Year-to- date expenses are at 1.6 million. There's $934,000 encumbered that's spoken for that has not been spent yet, but has already been committed. And so that leaves an available balance of $339,000. >> Wow. >> So, at this point, the percent committed is at 88.4. Your key drivers out of this budget are service salaries. Uh repair and maintenance services, contracted vendor repairs. This is your HVAC brawl, Mason and Barry, different companies that we deal with. Rotorooer. Um supplies uh is also a a significant item for our for our own crews that are ordering supplies. You'll see that there was a $595,000 budget for work order materials and there's $300,000 remaining in that budget as of right now. So that that's on good track. Uh you have your benefits, your personnel cost is significant. That's

032also in there. And then specialized outside services, architects, that type of thing. The capacity in the budget is concentrated primarily in the supplies general. That that particular line item has done really well the last two years and I think it's because of all the new equipment that's been put in uh that we invested the co funds in with the HVAC and all that. So that's that's really brought down some of the repair cost. Now, I do want to say this. Unfunded liability was recorded earlier this year than in prior years. So, when you're going through these um we sheets and you see that unfunded liability, when you look at that report that has every year by December, you'll see that they're all zero except for this year. We've went ahead and recorded it now. And

033when we look at the treasur's report later, I'll show you the impact in total on the entire district with that. But we've got some significant expense that we've recorded already that wasn't recorded at this time last year. You see the multi-year trend. So 2.87 million was spent in fiscal year 21, [snorts] 3.31 million in fiscal year 22, 3.69 69 million in fiscal year 23, 2.73 million in fiscal year 24, 2.66 million in fiscal year 25. So that's a good trend that it's coming down. >> Now let me mention about that 2021 number. That was the uh that was the uh co year >> co year >> and the expenses were down overall quite a bit that year. So to be even under that for fiscal year 25 is u is a good thing. On your

034next page we have the same couple of page reports. This first one I've got a notation up at the top that says December. What that indicates is that all of these costs for all of these years as are of uh December 31st. The second page is the entire year except for 2026 and that's just up to date as December 31st. So that'll give you an idea over the last five years of what total expenditures have been in each line item. Any questions about those? >> I have a couple actually. Okay. >> What >> type of inventory system do we have with maintenance supplies? Let's say receptacles or whatever. >> We just have them on trucks. We don't have a a uh they they've been working uh for the last six or seven months on on

035putting those together, but we don't have really enough uh to inventory. We use what our our our sales tickets and what and what we buy. Now, what's on the trucks is is what will be in our bills. >> You know what I'm saying? It' be what what we pay paid for or what we will pay for. >> Right. So, on your on your um work order or whatever you're Yeah. working on, you'll have listed what was purchased with the receipts. >> We have those. We have copies of those with >> that's all we I mean we don't have a whole lot of inventory as far as what we got. We usually go get when you know when it's needed because we don't have a building or we don't have a sto storage place for those

036things. >> But we document it when you put it on your >> 100% >> on your um work order >> truck. Yeah. For that particular building or whatever job that you're working on. But >> you and that that was kind of leading to my next question. What, and I know this is not apples to apples, but what building is the most expensive? Where do you get the most maintenance calls? >> The most calls most cost >> the most maintenance calls. What building in our county has the most maintenance calls. >> Sometimes that depends on who's called. Uh, you know what I mean? lot. Sometimes they call one another, but I would say uh >> where does our maintenance guys have to spend the most time at what building? >> The mo well spring valley is

037the mo is the most cost building we have >> because it's just that much square footage. >> It's big. >> I guess it would also depend on what the problem is. I mean different maintenance. Yeah, we have uh uh you know group groups [clears throat] of electricians, HVAC, I'm sure you know who you you know who they even are. Uh those we we value those and and we write rate those and we send send people on urgency. Most of the time we have a plan but sometimes that plan doesn't go the way it should because we got a break or something break we have a gas leak or we have something else. But I would say Spring Valley is the most expensive building we have. I know it is co costwise, utility wise, it's on

038the obvious, but it's got to be biggest. >> HVAC wise, I think we'll probably have the most problems with Fort Gay, wouldn't you say? >> 100%. >> Um, Spring Valley there >> testify to that. >> Yeah. [laughter] I mean, you know, we've had some issues at Spring Valley, but Spring Valley system has been, >> you know, it's a new system that we put in. And I can't remember that if I could. >> Sure. >> When I first got got here, they had a boiler system in Spring Valley. I I wanted to kill everybody we hired. Nobody could fix it. When we got money enough to upgrade Spring Spring Valley to these exactly units that that we have at Ford Gate are these exact same same units. There was a can in the pipe. >> Yeah.

039So a contractor or some somebody >> somebody upset at somebody put a Pepsi can they even had a P tab on >> I got a picture of it >> and they put it in the pipe and it went and it caused problems in the whole building. It never did work right. One year that all the ceiling tile fell nobody could figure it out. Well we changed the system to this system. The one at Fort Fort Gay is terrible. It's terrible. the one at Spring Valley. I don't know if we've ever got a call from from though from those Dying units. We we have a situation at Crumb. They're Mitsubishi. Uh we've struggled getting people to work on those. Uh they're just a different unit than these. And uh but Spring Spring Bat Valley since we

040upgraded to this system, we we never we've got calls never. Uh we believe there's a p piping system uh the problem is when we build the new new schools like Fort Gate uh Mason and Barry or or us we don't put it in. So the people who piped the system at Fort Fort Gay was a pl was a plumbing company because those have piping. So these units here have one compressor. at Fort Gate. There's eight rooms on one compressor. That's how it works. It's not a bad thing if it works corre correctly. It it we we have a p piping issue at Fort Fort Gay is what I I think. But believe me, I have no idea. But we we we we tried to get it. We go through so many compressors down there that

041that it's it's unbelievable. Now, the compressors are paid for their warranty. They've never made it past warranty. That's a good thing. >> They've never made but we still got to pay to put it in >> and we're still down when they go down. >> It's down for for me. I don't like our system at White Wayne Elementary. It's a boiler system. When the boiler's down, the whole show's down. >> At Fort Port Fortress down, we got eight rooms down. So, you can't move them around. You can't move around. I like individual RTUs, but that's that's not where the smart money is. Because when they do that that I mean you you could never pay for that to have an individual unit for every room unless we put the ones in we just did the individual

042ones inside. So for Fort Gay P piping is a tr is trouble. Uh uh I I don't know who to blame. I wasn't here then. Uh but we believe that that it's a some people don't think it is. They think it's another too many on one. But we're we're we're working real hard. It's been better this year than it has been in a long time. >> And I know you can't answer this question, but I'm going to ask you because you deal with this every day. >> Sure. >> Why? When we put new windows in our homes, we expect them to last 25 years at least, right? >> Yeah. >> Why when we put new buildings in schools, they don't last? The CK building as an example, that didn't last >> No. >> How long?

043Not even 10 years. talking about the the cocking and stuff. That was >> the seal. >> Seal >> that that that wasn't a window. >> That wasn't the window. >> The cocking to the window. >> Yeah. It was probably an installation mess up or something. But it but the window itself, there's nothing wrong with the window itself. >> Just to seal it. >> Yeah. There's nothing wrong with the windows. It It's how how they're put in the masonary. >> Why would Why would that not last longer than that? Do you have any idea? And I know it's not your fault. I'm not saying that. I'm just ask I have no idea. >> We we had I mean this is probably not the place, but we had issues with the masons at that job. >> Uh

044the masons at Crumb were they were built at the same time were really good. Other parts of Crumb was not the floor the floor guys there at at Crumb I wasn't happy with. But the Mason But but it's a neighbor. It's two different subcontractor issue, >> but it's a sub and it's, you know, >> yeah, >> I can't remember the name, but they had two of those contractors on that particular job and it was just just an installation problem. I mean, it's not the windows. It's it's what's around the windows. >> I gota I just have higher expectations, you know, and I'm sure you do, too. you'd like. We think this stuff should last longer than >> I want to tell you one and I and I absolutely >> and I probably shouldn't tell tell

045you and I'm going to talk about myself for just a second. >> I know what I know what you're going to say. >> Should I tell them? >> Are you making it up, Matt? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Well, you were studying. I didn't >> There is a I don't want to tell it. >> Oh, yeah. Get us Get >> I think it's too far down the road now. There there there's a room there that has a window in it and they covered it over. >> Uhhuh. >> And I' I've walked by it a million times. >> By covered it over, he means they dry inside the room. >> They drywall right over. I go in that room. It's got And it looks fine. You can't tell from the inside and from the

046outside it's on the second floor. I never noticed it. >> Wow. >> I >> They just didn't catch it on. Did we not have somebody in charge of >> me? >> Project manager. [laughter] >> Me. >> I thought we had like a project manager. >> Well, we did. I don't know. >> We did. I I don't It's since been fixed, but I walked by a million times. I I don't know. It was just >> missed on the >> there and you just miss it because you're not thinking about them missing a window, but it was there for >> six, five, six years. Remember how >> and they asked me about I said, "You're crazy. It's not like that." So, I go upstairs. The wall looks just like that. I go upstairs and there's a window

047outside. >> Yeah. >> We It's fixed. >> It's good. >> Oh, it's fixed. But I I didn't have a clue, >> right? >> No one told me. And I And you know, we had architects. We had >> Yeah, you had a punch list. >> We had a punch list. >> Close out. There was There was >> architects. >> You walk in that room, you couldn't tell there was a window there. >> Yeah. >> And you walk outside, it's 40t in the air, so you couldn't see through it. But that that's a fact that happened. >> Okay then. >> That that window didn't leak. >> Yeah. I [laughter] bet them all I can. >> Yeah. Solve our leak problem. [laughter] >> That's true story. >> Right. >> Todd, why do you have [clears throat] >> the

048workers comp? That's $70,000 surplus or whatever. >> Did you do that or >> 2026? >> Yeah, that would be made. Is it up from last year? >> Yeah, it looks it looks to me like some of the categories just changed or something because you go real low. >> You're real low or or vice versa. >> Not at all. >> Yeah. So, anything that's circled is something that I'm following up on. >> Okay. >> Um Okay. >> To see why the number is where it is. So, it would be a number of that's of concern to me. >> Well, that's what I wondered. So, is this people that are on workers comp at this time or is this comp. We have >> what they pay out. What you pay out. >> Yeah. What what we have

049to pay out for employees. >> Okay. All right. I just wonder >> right above it you've got an unfunded liability that was 5 years zeros and then went to 231. >> So that's what I was talking about before. Okay. >> Usually Jeb would record that later in the year. He's went ahead and recorded it now. So when we look at the treasures report, you'll see the >> more accurate. >> Okay. >> You'll see the impact. >> Okay. Next page. We'll move on to Mr. Priest transportation budget. >> Oh, >> and Mr. Priest also has uh two different budgets that he operates out of. First one is the uh vehicle operation. This is running the buses. >> Okay. >> So, you got all your bus operator wages are in here. So, personnel cost is going to

050be a big ticket item here. >> Oh, sure. uh vehicle insurance, um operating supplies and utilities for the bus garage, major capital related commitments for bus replacement. So, uh the budget for this year is at 6.8 million. Pleased to uh see that year-to- date expenses are at about 2.8 million. There's 3.6 6 million encumbered. So that leaves about 298,000 that is unencumbered, but there's still a high percent that's committed with those incumbrances. So we're at 95.6 there. Key budget drivers, as I mentioned before, those salaries and insurance, uh, retirement contributions, that unfunded liability that Randy pointed out, bus replacement, as you know, is always a big ticket item. It's in the uh high six figures. >> Yeah. >> Uh again, your your [snorts] service salaries for substitutes. There's quite a bit that's spent on substitute

051drivers, workers compensation, vehicle insurance, >> over $100,000 for vehicle insurance. And then it gives you a summary of those items on the uh on the back page. Then we get again we've got the same type of report. [sighs] You have the first page is the yeartoate expenses. So all of this is as of December 31st for every single column. Second page is the final expenditures uh on the year. except for 26 which is just as of December. So what's interesting to see about this is like if you look at the second line item there service salaries cost us 2.2 million in 2021. And look where that number was in 2025. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> And there's less drivers in 2025 than there was in 20121, but the expenses have increased by about $800,000. Now,

052we did have some Bill, we had some reductions in positions this year, didn't we? Did you consolidate some runs? >> Yes, [clears throat] we run. >> So when you see that December number for that service salary regular, you'll see that it's on pace to to be lower than what it was last year. >> Still, I mean, >> it's not lack of consolidating runs or reducing, you know, our employees. It's cost again. >> Yeah. cost to employ the people. That's hard to chase. Any specific questions for Bill on those items? Okay. The next page over is the maintenance of the buses. So this is the actual operation of the bus garage um including the mechanics uh wages and benefits any vendor technical service and repairs. Bill who do who all do we use for as vendors?

053We use matheis and >> we have a lot of vendors mainly mainly mathe mainly worldwide. Um, every once in a while we'll have to branch off and try to find a part that we can't they can't get or it's on national back order or something like that. But they're our main two vendors for parts. And then we have some local vendors here that we we will get some things from. Um you know CB&H down here which is now going to be it's changing Jason name of that I think or something. So anyway that yeah but those those two are our big big people. We have and bluebird. So the largest expense here is vehicle supplies which includes fuel fuel and fluids and parts. Um anything related to keeping the the buses moving. >> Yeah. >>

054And I'm going to ask you the same question, Bill. You keep a inventory like a daily inventory on bus number whatever took 15 quarts of oil or whatever. >> Yes. Um >> and how often do you reconcile that? So how how we u keep track of that per bus is we do that through the PM. The buses are PM but prevent maintenance. They're brought in within 40 days. Every 40 days in 40 days, [clears throat] but every bus is PM every 40 days. Um and that's recorded on PM sheets. We can see what had to be done to that bus. If we change the oil, we we can see what filters or whatever we put on anything we put on that bus and then it goes into a work order system into what's called fleet

055soft. So we electronically entered as well. So sometimes we can quick reference a bus real quick if we need to know something uh if it needed something or something we've done to it in the past, we can pull that quick reference and then flip soft is all but also our parts inventory system. And um we're actually in the process of revamping our inventory. Um we have u we're convincing we're always trying to convince it because there's no need for us to keep >> That's us as well. We don't want to keep a lot of stuff because it gets gone and we want to >> make that number as small as we can. >> Yeah. But we try to streamline as much as we can and that way it's easier to maintain and typically if we

056need something, our vendors can get it to us pretty quick. So if a bus is down for a day or so, we can usually get that part um and get that bus back on the road. So but that's how we that's our our park system. Again, like I said, we're in the middle of revamping that, updating it, trying to make it more accurate. Um, so that's where we're at with that. But we we those parts are entered as they come in. We have a sticker system and a scan system. So when the part comes in, Richie is um is the main guy that's over the parts. Uh he's our foreman. And Richie will, you know, he we have a like I said, we have a sticker system. So it's two two-sided sticker. Well, it's a

057double sticker, actually. So he peels it off, sticks it on the part box or bag or whatever, and then when the when the and he scans it in the system. Well, when the guys go get that part or Richie goes and gives them that part, they peel that sticker off. There's another that same sticker numbers on there. They peel that sticker off, stick it on the work order, and when they finish [cough] that bus and turn that work order into Richie, he scans it out. >> Perfect world. I would love to have the same situation. >> Perfect world. That's that that's great to do that. That's how we we try to maintain the best we can. >> So every part has a a code or a number so that once you use it, >> it's

058documented that it's gone to bus XYZ and then that's stored on the document that's turned back in. So >> we put that we file the paper copy and it also goes in electronically. >> How many buses do you have? Uh we have >> running I mean daily >> 87 on the road every day. >> So like if you had that system going and bus number 12 was just having all kinds of issues and your your mechanics I know they keep up with it. I'm not saying that. But it would alert you that the alternator went out on that seven times last year. Right. >> Uh the system I'm sure there's something in that system. We would we would catch it. >> I'm sure you would. But you know I'm just saying that's hypothetical. that's hypothetical

059that a recoccurring issue on a bus, you know, >> and I'm not asking a mechanic to remember every bus number because I know it's impossible pretty much, but >> they would be some kind of a system. >> They can look and see what's been done to that bus. >> See if it's recurring frequently. >> Yeah. Bus number and look to see what >> you're asking if it alarms. If >> there be some kind of a red flag go up, but >> it's under warranty. It could be under warranty. Yeah, >> it does red flag buses that are getting go out of the 40 days. >> So it will it will red flag a bus that way like hey this bus needs to be BM. It's almost out. It does do that. Now as far as

060like red flag consistent problem. >> Uh we it's probably left to us to to recognize that. I know that the guys either know the bus driver or the bus. >> Right. Right. >> So they're pretty good about that where they deal with it. Yeah, >> it's a it's an imperfect system, but it we make we make it work pretty good. >> Makes sense. And we're reimbursed for fuel, but not 100% correct. >> 80% >> 80 something. That's what I thought. >> Pretty much the majority of our budget is 80%. Okay. >> And the other 20 comes out of local funds. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, if you look at the uh the overall budget, it's about 2.3 million. Year to date, as of December 31st, 865,000 has been spent. Again, this in includes fuel, parts,

061everything. Uh there's 940,000 encumbered. So it leaves about half of a million available balance with only 76.9% committed at this time. So hopefully that continues at that pace. Um key budget drivers again, as we discussed, you have your vehicle supplies, that's your fuel, fluids, parts. It's a $1.4 million budget there. There's been 483,000 spent year to date. See your salary item there. >> Um, general supplies, group insurance, retirement contributions, those purchase services, contracted services are also in there was a $75,000 budget there. 24,000 has been spent year to date. Repair and maintenance, $55,000 budget, $5,000 has been spent year year to date. So, we Bill, we made a significant investment in the transportation garage down there and putting new lifts in it and >> so they could do more work. It seems like it seems

062like those numbers are pretty low as far as what you're sending out. >> [snorts] >> Are they what's your thoughts on how that's working? >> It's definitely allowed us to do more work and more types of work and do it more efficiently. >> When you're using bumper jacks and you're trying to get a bus and you're, you know, you're working off the floor underneath a bus on on your back, we can't put everything on a lift because we only have two. But whenever they can put a bus on a lift and they're working standing up, >> it just significantly speeds the process up. And so >> a thousand times safer >> and safer. Yeah. So it Yeah. Everything that we have done over there and you all have approved to upgrade that garage has paid

063off. I feel >> I think the drivers like the bus wash, too. >> Yeah. They they get to use that, not have to do it by hand. >> That's that's helpful. And we got that under sprayer too. So eventually we're going to see down the road that undercarriage sprayer is going to save us from rust um and you know corrosion and rust in the future. >> Um >> prong prolong those buses a little bit. >> Yeah. Because right now we are losing buses older buses that we have to rely on that we really shouldn't but we have to. We got 08 buses. We just put an 06 bus out of service because of rust. I'm not saying that underc carriage spray would have saved that 06 bus this long, >> right? >> But it will

064prolong the the life of these buses because when a bus gets start rusting underneath and we start losing what they call crossmembers, it gets really expensive >> to have to have those things replaced and sometimes we can't do them. >> It just jumps. >> Yeah. Especially Yeah. You just jump and so Yeah. And a lot of time it's a welding situation as well and you have to have qualified dealer people do that kind of work. The inspectors won't approve it. So we're very limited on that kind of work we can actually do and ask because they won't prove it. >> I got another question. You may not know the answer and it's okay if you don't but it just popped into my mind. Do you know how many students we have riding buses? Because I

065know at every elementary school there are cars parked for miles waiting for the >> How many students do you have? Any idea how many we have? >> Last year we were um >> a good >> Last year our wrership was um I'm I'm guessing roughly [snorts] between three and 4,000. >> I was thinking it was half of our >> It's about It's a little over half. Yeah. This I'm actually getting ready to submit our ridership numbers by this month. We submit them in January to the state department. I'm getting ready. I've not looked at the exact numbers, but I want to say it's probably close to the same. >> Mr. Ross, we we are in development of of our new school at Buffalo, and that has been the hardest >> design problem of the whole

066building. >> The building's not a problem. It's the It's off. >> It's the biggest problem that we've having at that facility. >> A little school of Pritchard. They're past they're backed up all the way past my street, [laughter] >> right? Can't get up for >> Unbelievable. [laughter] >> There was no question. >> His mom did. And then your next two pages are the same reports, the year-to-ate expenditures up to December 31st. And then the very last page is the uh annual expenditures from 21 through 25 and then of course the up to date for 2027. >> When we talk about group insurance, is that are we talking fleet insurance or are we talking >> people? I think we're talking people. >> People >> do we what does our bus insurance come out of this as

067well? Are we do >> Yes. >> Okay. So, that's one of the >> Yeah. >> one of those. >> And are we dictated on who we have to use for that like we are >> um our liability >> brim. So, so it >> doesn't work to try to find a a plan that's cheaper or anything like that. So, we're Yeah. Okay. That answers that question. >> No choice. No choice. I'm just making sure. [laughter] >> Okay. That's a lot of information and I know I know you'll go through it more. So if you have any more questions um we'll make time at the next meeting to address anything else that you have. >> Thank you. Jeez. And we're not doing the technology tonight or are we doing it? >> We haven't done it yet. >>

068Did you have any questions about it? >> Uh, no. >> Not yet. >> I did provide you a I did [laughter] I did provide you a list of um employees from technology, maintenance, and transportation. >> Yes. Uh the maintenance and transportation are on the longer forms and the uh technology is the is the short list. >> Okay, you could open one of those. >> All right. >> Okay. If you if you guys want to sneak out, feel free. >> Yeah, feel free. >> Appreciate it. You're leaving. >> You don't want to stay. You're leaving. >> Let the dog. >> Thank you guys. >> Whatever. >> The next thing in your packet is the um this is a report I I saw a few [clears throat] months ago where the workforce development numbers uh some of

069the statistics in Wayne County were improving. And a part of that is the programs that are available to kids, the internship program and some of the other programs that have been put put in place, aviation maintenance and the existing CTE programs um that are operating uh really have an effect on workforce development uh in the county. And so these numbers are impacted not only by the school system, they're impacted by the county commission, economic development that's occurring, the EDA, other and and just general economic development that's occurring uh through local businesses within the uh within the district. But I thought you would find this interesting. And I've got I think I've got it where I can pull it up here. So, we pulled some reports down from the uh we pulled some reports down from

070the uh state or I'm sorry, from the federal government regarding the labor participation numbers. And so the the headline findings that you'll see at the top of your page is that the workforce participation is rising. So when you see that acronym the the LFPR that is the labor force participation rate. So when it says 16 plus that accounts uh everybody that is 16 years of age and older and are they participating in the workforce. So it increased to 49.1% in 2023. 2023 is the last numbers available. >> Okay. >> These reports lag. Um, it's still below West Virginia. West Virginia was at 53.6% for its labor force participation rate for 16 plus, but we narrowed the gap there. Um, and it has uh it has improved over time. So that that is a positive sign.

071What's really positive is the prime working age participation that is they do a separate statistic for the age group of 25 to 64 and it reached 65.5% in 2023. West Virginia is at 69.4% but I I believe we closed the gap by about six percentage points with with that number. Unemployment improved materially. Uh Wayne's unemployment rate was 5.4% in moving us into a stronger statewide position on on joblessness. I believe the employment rate was actually better than the uh states rate. >> And then collegegoing rate is above the state average. And when we say collegegoing is this is postsecary going. So, it's not just traditional four-year degrees. It can be uh workforce programs through uh Mount West, through uh Marshall's advance advanced manufacturing center, those type of opportunities. >> So, the graduation rate for 2024

072is 52.1%. The state was at 47%. Wayne ranked 10 10 out of the 55 counties uh with that graduation rate. So at the bottom of the page is just a snapshot that kind of repeats those numbers and shows you Wayne County's numbers with West Virginia. If you go to page two, it gives you rankings over time. So you'll see that the statistics were probably at their worst around 2019, >> but there's been some significant improvements since then. So the labor force participation rate for Wayne County in 2023 was at we were ranked 31 in the state, which is the highest ranking going back to 2017. If you look at the labor force participation rate for that prime group, that 25 to 64 was ranked 29th in the state. Again, the highest ranking going back to

0732017. The EPOP is uh employment uh compared to population. It's very similar number to that 25 to 64 rank. That 29th rank is again is the uh highest it's been since 2017. You see the unemployment rank was significant in 17 181 19. It's really had a downward trend. >> Y over the last four years. So it's not the lowest mark that that's been seen, but stands at 17%. [clears throat] And then the uh for the college going rank um they have statistics from 2024 there. So you you'll see it over time. Now if you remember during the pandemic the postsecondary rates dropped like a rock in the state and we were we were part of that as well. But our our number is climbing back up and that was good enough for it for being

074ranked 10th in the state with those numbers. Now going to the next slide. This report compares Wayne County to some of the peer counties including there's a line for the state of West Virginia and then there's lines for multiple counties. And you know the problem I'm going to have with this graph >> colors. >> I can't I can't. [laughter] >> We're blue. >> Help him, Randy. I know where we are. [laughter] I don't know who anybody else is, but I know where we are. >> You know where the blue is. >> So, if this first one, you see the trend line for our labor force participation rate. >> So, again, we're narrowing that gap with the state, which is a good thing. >> Yeah. >> The second one is the uh with the 25 to

07560 uh 64 year olds. is that prime group >> again you see that number climbing. Yeah, >> that's a good sign. >> Good sign. >> You see the uh next graph is the college going lines and you'll see that we're we're as of 2024 we're second on that list. >> Yeah. >> Going back up. So all those are uh >> all those numbers are positive signs. >> Yeah, good. >> So I just wanted to share that and again that's not only a school system measure. Now in part it is. So you know we have programs that we've started the jump start program um Marshall's herd academy you know we've got the uh we've got the aviation maintenance program and all those are going to have more of an impact on these numbers as we go.

076>> Right. Uh, but there's there's a number of folks that deserve credit for this. I'm going to I'm going to share it with the uh EDA and with the Wayne County Commission, so they can just kind of look at the numbers. So, it is a is it is a positive sign. So, uh things are on the upswing [clears throat] and hopefully they continue that way. >> I think our internship programs are huge, especially for that demographic of 16 plus. It just gives these kids >> a snapshot, an idea of what's out there and the soft skills it takes to to go to work. So, I think that that's going to help. >> Okay, that's all I had. >> All right. Well, thank you. Um, no board directives or board reports? >> Nope. So, we can

077move on to Oh, no. We also have no unfinished business. So, we can move to our new business now. Uh, superintendent recommends approval of the [snorts] following action items. Additional items received prior to the time of the meeting may be added. Discussion and or separate action of the items may be requested by members of the board and or the superintendent. Items are subject to change. Any blanks would be filled in prior to the meeting and in the event a nominee withdrawals, we reserve the right to put the next candidate in that position. Number one is consider for approval the recommended personnel matters on pages one and two. Motion. >> Motion by Jonita. Second. >> Second. >> Randy, >> there is a termination that's listed on that agenda. >> I like to move to pull that

078for separate consideration, please. >> So, we'll pull the termination for separate consideration. So, is there any other questions or concerns on the remaining personnel matters? >> And I know Miss Tyrie is here in case you have any questions. We've already had the hearing for the termination matter. If you have any questions, legal questions for her, so she's here to answer those. >> Okay. We'll take care of the other personnel matters and then we can address that one. So, no other questions or concerns on the remaining personnel matters. Is Dennis still with us? >> Dennis, do you have any questions, concerns? Dennis, >> wake him up. Todd, >> he was muting himself. So, >> Dennis, can you hear us? If we cannot hear you, you're muted. >> Okay, we're just making sure. [laughter] >> Just want

079to make sure you didn't not off, Dennis. >> All right. So we'll go ahead and and vote on the remaining personnel matters then. >> Matters remain. >> No questions. >> No concerns. All right. All in favor? >> I >> any any opposed? >> Motion carries. Five to zero. >> Okay. Okay. And for the separate consideration, do we need a um executive session for this or does anyone have any questions, concerns that we need to um discuss with Miss Tyrie? No one. Okay. All right. So the matter of the superintendent recommendation, >> I do I mean I think Miss Tyrie was going to check on something for us. So do I just >> do a motion to go into executive session? >> Yes, please. >> A motion for executive session to discuss um some specific personnel

080matters for this termination made by Johnita. >> I have a second. >> Second, >> Randy. >> All in favor? I >> Dennis, are you on with us? >> Any opposed? >> And it's 7:18 p.m. >> 5 to 0. 7:18. >> If you don't mind, just mute your mics. Okay, I got our mics live if you want to because we've got to >> make sure Dennis can hear me. Dennis, can you hear me? >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Motion to return. >> Motion by Johnita. Second. >> Second, >> Randy. And it is uh all in favor? >> I What's your time? >> 7:33. >> Dennis. >> I33. >> We're returning from executive. [clears throat and cough] >> All right. So the remaining personnel matter is a termination and the termination is for Tammy Williamson who is

081a secretary at um Genanoa Elementary School. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Johnita. >> Second by Randy. Any other questions or concerns? All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? No. Dennis, you going to vote? >> Is this on the motion to dismiss? >> Yes. >> Mine's a no. >> Motion carries. 3 to two. >> Three to two. Motion carries. >> Okay. Can we take a brief recess? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Leslie. [clears throat and cough] [clears throat] All right. Where's our voucher payments? So, I can get those >> in here. Yeah. >> Ready? >> Didn't think it was going to be this long, did you? >> Okay, there you go. There you go, >> ma'am. Be careful. >> Okay. [clears throat] back in order here. Okay, moving on to number two.

082Consider for approval the voucher payments for December 2025 on pages 3 through 11. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Jonita. Second, >> Randy. Any questions or concerns on those voucher payments? >> Yeah. Okay. I did. Of course, you know, I voiced my concerns on the Amazon and PayPal. We're looking at $26,000. I know it's been explained to me. >> I've done the same. >> I just don't feel comfortable with those numbers. [clears throat] >> The next one I have a question on Mr. Alexander be on page five about one/4 of the way down the page. Larry R. Castle Jr. $8,400. Could you tell me what that was for? >> Yeah, that was for the gym floor refinishing. >> Okay. >> And that was multiple schools. >> Okay. I just didn't know what >> I

083think it was like 1,600 per school. >> Okay. >> Like five or six page five. >> Uh number on page number four. >> Little over halfway [snorts] down the page. Uh, severing intermediate holdings 38,63556. What is that? >> Let me find it. >> You said page four. >> Page four. >> 169700. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Page the page four at the bottom. >> I got you. Sorry. Yeah, I'm going by >> page four. >> I do not know. I'll have to pull that for you. >> Okay, >> that seems like a pretty good chunk of change. >> Yes, it is. >> On the next page, page seven, empirical resolution inc. >> Oh, 5,400. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right top of the page. >> Yeah. Empirical resolution. I have no idea. >> Okay. Seven.

084I'll go page top. It's all right. >> Page at the top, page seven, >> 169728. >> I'll pull that as well. >> Okay. >> I feel like that was a CTE thing. I remember seeing that name, but I'm I'm not 100% sure. >> I don't remember seeing it. I just Okay. On page nine. >> Okay. >> This is going to the top now. I've changed. >> Okay. Right here. >> I got you. >> Gotcha. >> Quarter of the way down. H& lawn care. Who is H& Lare? $4,925. >> Okay. >> No clue. Haven't heard of them. >> We probably approved something. We haven't heard of you need. >> I don't know. [clears throat] >> That's not tree. That's not tree uh trimming, is it? >> No, that's not. >> That's all the ones that I

085have. >> No, that's We use We use CNS. >> CNS. Okay. >> Tree service. or it it is it's got a funny name on it. CNS >> something. >> Yeah, I thought maybe >> landscaping or something. I don't >> Yeah, >> but that's not it. No, >> that's the ones that I had questions on for this evening. >> Okay, I'll pull all three of those and send you the information on. Any other questions or concerns on those voucher payments? None heard. All in favor then? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to zero. Number three, consider for approval the minutes of the Wayne County Board of Education pages 12 through 15. >> So move. >> Second by Mark, second by Jonita. >> Questions, concerns, changes on any of those? >> All in favor? I

086>> I >> Any opposed? [clears throat] >> Motion carries [snorts] 5 on the minutes. Number four, consider for approval the purchase requisition order in quotes in excess of $5,000. It's pages 16 through 19. Motion >> Motion by Jonita. Second. >> Second. >> Randy. [laughter] >> Questions or concerns on those requisitions? So >> yeah, that's through right express. That's our uh that's our fuel provider. Uh page 17 is -ate consulting services. So we uh we collect what averages to about $300,000 a year in funding uh to pay for internet service uh etc. and we have to turn in applications for that. And so, uh, this group, uh, what they do is they make sure that we're taking advantage of every opportunity and collecting as much money as possible. Joe reports that they are, uh, top-notch and,

087uh, the best around. So, that's who we use for the for the rate. Uh, >> and then and then the third item, page 18, that's the school funds online. That's our software fees for operating uh for all the reports that we can pull etc. >> And this rate consulting services for last year >> correct? >> Okay. >> With regard to the right express is that that's again round numbers not something we've already incurred. It's an estimated what it based on. >> Yeah. This Yeah. This will this will incur that money. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> And so basically we're encumbering it >> in the happy event uh you spend $150,000 on it. We just don't give them the other 50. >> Correct. >> Right. Exactly. >> Explain to me and I'm What is that? Is that

088like fuel that's from the at the bus garage? Is do we have >> fuel fuel card? >> Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. charge card for fuel. >> Gotcha. >> Yeah. >> And that's just for the bus garage or is that for >> bus garage? And then if we have any drivers that use fuel at other places, so for example, like the gas powered buses that we have, >> um, they use those cards. Um, that's it. >> I would guess. I mean, I know obviously we're talking diesel gasoline, but I know how the price of gas somewhat but I assume the amount of fuel probably pretty consistent year to year. >> Yeah. The the runs don't change you know even when you lose student population you know the same >> you still you have >> you have five

089on the route or 10 on the route you're still running the route. >> Yep. >> So there's a I guess it goes back to my questions before. So there's a pretty close inventory cap on that kind of thing. Also, is there any checks and balances on it? >> Yeah, when when you use those cards, you have to enter the mileage. >> Okay. >> Uh that you are at at the time that you're fueling it up so they can track the purchases as they go to make sure that they're matching up with the uh with the mileage. >> Okay. And then of course we have a diesel pump down at the garage so we try to use it as much as possible. >> But sometimes, you know, if if the run's down >> in the crumb

090area, it doesn't make sense to run them up to Wayne just to fuel up. >> All right. Any other questions or concerns on those? >> All in favor? I Dennis, thank you. >> You'll see a specific line item, too. On those reports that I gave you for the the diesel fuel, you'll see how much is spent. You'll see what's been spent in the past years. >> Any opposed on that? None heard. Motion carries five to zero. Moving on to our new business, separate action items. Number one, consider for approval of treasury report on page 20. Motion >> Mark Randy, did you have the second? >> Yes, you did. >> I want to mention I did provide you in your folder for tonight that we provided you tonight. I provided you a treasures report, but this

091one compares it to December of 24. >> Oh, okay. So, we were having that conversation about that unfunded liability. So, for the entire district, the unfunded liability is at about $7.5 million that has to be recorded in the books. And again, this year, uh, that number has been recorded early. >> Okay. So when you look at your year-to-ate revenue and you see and and I'm talking about fund 11, the very first line, >> yeah, >> that's the one that we have the most control over and that's the one that we have to keep an eye on. >> That revenue includes that $7.5 million that's been recorded, that unfunded liability. It impacts the revenue column as well. So when you see the difference and that there's been an increase of $7.3 million in revenue in the

092general fund, it's actually a small deficit in the uh in the revenue. So the revenue has dropped off from last year slightly because at the time uh in December 24 that unfunded liability had not been recorded. So the revenue is stable. Now, if you go to the right and you look at the two columns for expenditures, you're going to see that it's showing that expenditures increased by 6.6 million, but that includes 7.5 million of that unfunded liability that was not recorded in December 24 of last year. So, expenses are actually down about 900,000. >> Okay. So when all is said and done, we're we're running about $700,000 ahead of where we were last year. >> That's good. >> Yeah. >> And basically what you can do is you can take that the the two differences

093and if you subtract those two that that'll give you our revenues uh have increased by 7.3 million and the uh expenditures have increased by 6.6. 6 million. So that that gives you the difference there. >> So it just lets you know where we stand compared to last year. >> Yeah. >> So slightly ahead of where we were last year at this point. >> Any other questions or concerns? [clears throat] All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries five to zero. Number two, consider for approval the budget supplement and transfers for December 2025 on pages 21 through 24. >> Motion by Randy. >> Second. Johnita [snorts] >> questions or concerns? >> No. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion [clears throat] carries five to zero. Number three, uh, superintendent recommends the

094board approve a short-term lease agreement with Playmates in West Morland facility effective through June 30th, 2026. >> Motion by Randy. Second, Jonita. >> Questions or concerns? >> Just explain the terms of the lease, please. that um uh they are responsible for janitorial services for uh maintenance in the building and they'll be responsible for all utilities and then um we uh >> we got a copy of it. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's a copy this email. >> It's in No, it's in our packet >> separate attachments that we got tonight in the from the other day. >> Yeah, I read it. I just wanted to I I read that but okay wanted to explain it. So yeah. >> Yeah. It ends June 30th. So it's it's they have to make the utility payments on the facility. If

095there's any major issues with the facility since we own it, those are ours, but they'll take care of janitorial services and light maintenance in the meantime. And then the lease ends on June 30th. And then I also included in your packup for tonight a communication from them and again their expression of intent to want to uh purchase the uh the facility. >> And for what it's worth my usual caviatal advice to the board I did look at this are supposed to keep the insurance right. >> Yeah. Yeah. They pick up the insurance and we'll drop the insurance on the facility as well at that point. It'll help a little bit. >> Any other questions or concerns on that lease agreement? >> I think I think the the lease agreement pretty well spells it out. >>

096Yeah. >> In really good terms, I think. >> Right. >> Be one less one less thing on our >> Yep. >> All right. No one else. No questions, concerns. >> All right. All in favor? >> I I >> Dennis. >> Thank you. Any opposed? Motion carries five to zero. Number four, superintendent recommends a transfer of property, that's 3609 Chase Street, >> the old cafeteria property to the Wayne County Community Service Organization. Motion >> motion. >> Randy second. >> Second. >> Questions or concerns on the transfer of that property? >> Of course I do. [laughter] I uh I thought about this a lot and I talked to superintendent about it, but if y'all remember I think it was in September when I took office in July, it was either August or September, I requested uh list

097of all of our properties that we owned in the county from the clerk's office. And uh evidently this was somehow not found or anything to till until we were surveying for the release of the >> West Morland property to u >> the historic >> historical society. They found this and it's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, that some time ago whenever this building, the West Morland Elementary School was given by the Wayne County Board of Education to the Wayne County Community Services Organization, they thought that this part of that property was also in that. Come to find out, we still owned it and have owned it for 12 or 15 years roughly. >> Yeah. Uh, also found out that I have no problem with Wayne County Community Services using it, but I'll tell you

098what really bothered me was the fact that they have had this leased. They've been leasing our property to Coldfield Development. So, I do not I personally do not feel and I that I am willing to give them this property and I know they've been in it for some time and I know they made some improvements and all that. I understand that, but my feeling is is thank you for the improvements to our building. Now, you need to buy it because we're facing some major shortfalls budget-wise. We're looking at a couple of school issues going on and u you know we're looking at a piece of property there on Chase Street that does have value that belongs to the Wayne County Board of Education. So I feel like if the Wayne County Community Services were using

099it, that would be one thing. But the fact that they had leased it and I don't know what the lease amount was that they were getting out of it. >> We didn't get it. How long have they been leasing it though? >> Yeah, >> I mean >> I I agree with you, Mark. I mean, >> and they're a government funded agency. >> Yeah, >> Wayne County Community Services government funded. >> So, the community services are not using this particular building themselves. They've leased it out to someone else. >> We know the history of that organization. I know it's changed now. It's actually ran by Lincoln County. >> You go aware of that. >> It's not leased currently. The uh the building's not leased currently. I think the lease with Coldfield Development expired in December at

100at the end of the year. >> So it's current they didn't renew it. >> Well before our time >> long time ago >> probably I don't know >> long time. And that school closed. >> Yeah. >> I mean shortly thereafter. >> Why would they want it now? >> So well they have operated as if it was their facility. this entire time. So, they've put new HVAC in it in it. They've repaired the roof on it. They've put new flooring in it. You know, they've done a number of things to it. And um the um the whole topic of this lease with Koffield Development came up about leasing the property out to them. But when we were in the process of transferring the historical society over is when I started having questions about >> who owns

101>> you know that property and you know had it been deed over like they were operating and um we I can't find anything in our records. I've asked their executive director to uh go through their records there because they believe that it was given to them at the time, but at the courthouse, >> I don't believe that that happened. There's nothing there's nothing recorded. If you look on the assessor's map now, it's still showing as it's ours. >> Theoretically, you could do a deed and not record it, but that would be very foolish and that's nominally not Do we have any idea how much it's worth? No, >> I don't know how much it's worth, but I know it's a building on Chase Street in West Morland and it's worth something. >> Well, [laughter] when

102they fix it, >> if they want it, then they need to buy it from us because they've been profiting. This is my opinion. [cough] They've been profiting off of leasing it to Koffield Developer. >> And they have been I mean, they have been profiting off that. It's not like a dollar lease or something like one of those. >> It wasn't theirs to give anyway. I mean, that's the thing. Well, [laughter] >> if it was $5, they owe us $5. >> No, I'm I'm Yeah, I'm sure it wasn't Yeah, I'm sure it wasn't a dollar lease. And again, for transparency, I serve on their board as well, >> right? >> Um I'm sure it wasn't [clears throat] a dollar lease or anything like that. Um the uh uh but again, you know, the whole time I've

103been on that board, that building has been treated like >> it was theirs. There's never any question about it. And it wasn't until we got into this and again I'm trying to find >> you know that the original documentation you know was that included and the answers I keep getting back are they can't see where it was included >> right >> or can we pull it or can you find out anything else about it? >> I think we ought to pull it at least a little bit. I got >> too >> I don't know what the again caveat don't get legal about sport anyway. I don't know what all the implications of the at first possession all I don't know >> right well I think personally I thought Wayne County Community Service Organization was utilizing

104the building so I didn't mind to give it to them at that point >> but if it's something where they've been using >> making money off of it >> well they they did use it at one time they were serving senior meals out of it >> and you know >> currently they haven't been >> yeah how long that's been I don't know >> I wouldn't care to pull it and just gather a little bit more information before we hand over a building. Especially if we're asking playmates to >> lease, >> yeah, >> another section of the building and possibly buy it. >> I mean, I just look at the fact that we're in a financial crunch and we all know that. We've talked about it and we're looking at things and I think if we've

105got, you know, we've got pop bottles to sell, we need to sell. >> That's what it's come to. And well, I say that's just common sense to me that >> well I don't want to I don't want to be responsible for another building if we don't have to be. But I don't give it away for free if we can bad enough to buy. >> That's another reason why we need to figure this out. I mean I'm I'm always worried about liability. >> Right. Exactly. >> Yeah. All right. >> Okay. >> I make a motion to pull it uh >> until >> Well, just I'll just pull it. >> Okay. >> I'll pull the recommendation until >> Okay. Todd for further review. >> Yeah, when we did the uh you know to get the transfer of

106the other properties done, I've provided all that paperwork uh to Miss Tyrie and and she has all that. So good. >> I don't have access to it right now. So, let me get it back in my hands and then we can >> I think that's the best idea. >> Can I make a request too that I would like to see from the the county clerk's office how many properties we um that the Wayne County Board of Education owns. I that I can see how much how many we own everything that's deed to the Wayne County Board of Education because I don't know this but I've been told that you know there's little plots throughout the county that used to be old one room schools and stuff that are still in our name. That's why I

107was asking that back. >> Yeah, we and we've tried to clean all those up and I believe that we had >> a lot there. >> Yeah. And I had a call from our surveyor um the gentleman that does surveying for us and he said there's another plot. >> Oh gosh. >> And it's um >> where's it? >> Tark Hill. >> Mhm. >> And so I went on the assessor's map and and yeah, there's a now it's listed funny. It's it's listed as school property, but it's not listed under the Wayne County Board of Education. But I spoke to the assessor's office last week. >> Yeah. >> Or not the assessor's office. I talked to the mapping office over at the courthouse last week and they do believe that it's ours. >> So yeah, we're >>

108there's somebody that's interested in that property. So >> I guarantee it. >> Yeah. And anytime that we put those properties back into the tax revenue for Wayne County, we get money out of that instead of just having them out. I think you're going to find that there could be very very well could be more of those. I I >> we tried to do an exhaustive list before >> and I thought that we had gotten rid of everything that we weren't using, >> but that one popped up. So, I I'll go back into records and see what we pulled before. >> We can do that. >> Yeah, >> there's a thing called West Virginia Property Viewer. I don't know if any of you are familiar with it or not. >> Just take a stroll. [laughter] >>

109See a lot. Okay. So, we'll pull that one. >> Yes. >> All right. We can move on to our potential items for future agenda. >> Yes. So, we have all those um public hearings next week and then we'll have the vote on the U closures or consolidations on January the 27th. And then at that same meeting, we'll need to do a CFP adjustment. um if because the CFP calls for a consolidation at a new school site. So, we'll have to do an adjustment regardless of what we do. So, I'll have it prepared [clears throat] and it will be on the agenda that night as well. >> Okay. >> Um we're working on we had some bleachers at the Wayne High School baseball field that we're going to tear down and replace and that's uh an

110insurance recommendation. Um we're working on gathering prices on those bleachers. Now I'm waiting for the uh prices to come in. I think we'll probably purchase those through um our A contract through Mountain State. >> You anticipate that be finished by baseball season? >> I hope. >> Yeah, I'm hoping that we'll have >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> And then um Spring Valley High School. We got some problems there. I did I don't You'll have to forgive me. I'm getting old. I can't remember what we've talked about and what we haven't. They There is water coming down off the hill that is behind the football bleachers that's washing out the um the cover uh underneath the bleachers and exposing the supports on the bleachers. So, we're going to have to do some >> wow >>

111drainage work there. And when we do that drainage work, we'll take that excess dirt and and put it back underneath the bleachers to to make sure that a a serious problem doesn't develop there. Um at the same time, uh they you remember we had the big sinkhole on the soccer field. >> There's something going on with the football field. >> Oh jeez. >> Um over on the visitor side, um they have uh it it is retaining water. the field was almost not playable uh for their last playoff game and uh we're gonna have to do some drainage work over there. At the same time, we discovered a significant water leak over at the baseball field and it's under about 3 ft of concrete. >> Oh, right. Of course it is. And so, uh, we're probably

112going to run a new line over there, but I'm working on specs for all of those projects. So, you know, we can get a bid out and uh get somebody in there to to work on those projects. And, you know, we'll make them separate project. I'm gonna bid them all out at once, but we'll make them where they can bid on them separately. Um, so that's work that's coming that we're going to have to do. So, I just wanted to give you a heads up to that. >> Full of good news tonight, aren't you, Ty? >> Yeah. >> Fantastic. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Motion by Janita. Second by Mark. >> All right. [laughter] All in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 to zero. It is 803. >> Yes, >> that is

113all. Thank you all. You want to mute your mics?