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Wayne County Board of Education Regular Meeting 11/20/25

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2025-11-21
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Wayne County, WV
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2026-07-02

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001to get a good start for the day. So, they'll the kids will come out and they'll say, "Look what I've got." >> Wow, that's a good idea. >> Really cool. It could hurt. She might have starts shot now. So quiet. [snorts] >> She is having it close. >> I know. I was texting her like [laughter] It's almost time. All right, it is time. We're going to go ahead and call our regular meeting of the Wayne County Board of Education to order. It's 6:00. Stand the pledge. Randy, you care to read us. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to [clears throat] the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Let the record show that all board members are present

002in person except for Mr. Ashworth who's joining us by this evening. >> And I don't think we have any recognition this evening, do we? >> No. So, we can move to our presentations this evening, our academic spotlight with Mountaineers moving up and Miss N. >> Um, we have a new addition to our school this year. We have a class. >> Um, we have a new class and it's a digital media class taught by Miss Jenny Chung. And so, when I told her that we were presenting, um, her class took it on as a project. So, we have something we would like to share with you. And this is this is completely made by Miss Jimmy Chain and her students. >> Can you guys all see? Okay. >> Step back. [music] >> [music] >> We believe

003six days and every day we are climbing high. Welcome to crime day. We are Willow and Autumn and we are proud representatives of a country built on character and academic excellence. [music] Now let us [music] at we believe that academic success starts with strong character. [music] When you walk through their halls you can feel the crown for gate. Our house system based off Park Academy [clears throat] which provides a deep sense of belonging, building. The house system mixes all of our prek8 students across our four houses reviewad and alurismo. The older mountaineers become natural mentors for the smaller kids. >> [snorts] >> We use the house pointing system to earn points for things like academic achievement, good character, school spirit, outstanding performances, attendance, growth, effort, and other categories that fits right into our positive behavior

004interventions and supports. Not to mention our friendly house competitions that take place throughout the school year. We are four houses, but one team. We push ourselves, but we always celebrate each other's successes. It goes beyond that. Our teachers use the essential 55 to teach us things like how to use proper manners, how to have respectful conversations, and how to win and lose graciously. >> Student athletic program. These activities not only drive individual progress, instilling discipline, time management, and leadership skills, but also build a stronger community by fostering confidence, self-esteem, and lasting relationships with both adults and eligibility is tied to maintaining the high standards expected of student athletes. A required GPA, consistent attendance, and AC permit are all required to be representative of Washington. We are proud that we are not just teaching subjects. We

005are building responsible and accountable citizens. [music] Every mountaineer needs a strong support system. We benefit from personalized resources right here at school. We utilize morning and after school tutoring and benefit from our specialized title one intervention services for targeted academic outcome. And our no zero policy allows us to complete missing assignments teaching us responsibility and follow through while ensuring our grades reflect our knowledge. Social and emotional support is offered through our school counselor and social worker. Our school is backed by strong community partners like Starting Points who host monthly literacy rights and the Dunl Community Center which serves as a crucial outreach for our families. >> The foundation of our instruction is teacher excellence and collaboration. Learning here in this district is we are provided project based learning to expand our knowledge. Student collaboration is

006huge. Our construction, agriculture, and our classes team up on amazing seasonal projects. It's cool to see different classes come together to make something real. And in the classroom, we do things like math labs, science projects, and STEM activities. We are constantly building, innovating, and discovering across all subjects. Collaboration teaches us how to lead and how to be valuable part of a successful team. Middle school is all about finding our path. Our fantastic CTE and exploratory classes are giving us hands-on skills for the future. The challenge in our engineering class is real. We don't just assemble kits. We face complex challenges like coding, building and problem solving to make our robots the best. >> We use technology like 3D printers, engravers and computer programs for graphic design. We've made shirts, hats, banners, or trophies. [music] This

007preparation has helped our robotics team to compete in the state among some of the best [music] >> young lady sports. to place third place in the state of West Virginia [music] classes on math projects and get the right measurements and if I don't get the right measurements then it won't fit right. So like this bench, it is used out pallet or something that people would like use as old firewood scrap wood and it used it and made real screws and stuff. And this is like the tr the skills I'm learning now will like help me in the future and maybe can help my kids and my kids [music] and sometimes it can be hard to measure it but you'll get there. class teaches class. [music] We use the greenhouse to sprout seeds with this cover

008and then move them to our garden beds to sell them to the families in the community. We also learn about sustainability by making our own rich soil for composting. This class gives me hands-on experience and teaches me valuable skills like patience and resource that I will use for life. >> [music] >> The digital media class is a key part of preparing our students for any career they choose. In the digital world we live in, being able to create and manage information is just as important as reading and writing. [music] Our students are learning to communicate clearly using more than just words. They are responsible for making and sharing all of our school's information, designing professional posters, flyers, and calendars, and capturing and editing photos and videos of events. Every single career today requires comfort and

009skill with digital tools and online communication. By running your school's communication, students are practicing the exact skills needed in fields like marketing, business, education, and technology. This class teaches them to use technology effectively and responsibly. Learning to manage information and create quality digital content is a fundamental skill that will help them succeed in high school, college, and any job that they could ever choose. >> [music] >> We are currently planning to add a homemade among class next year to further build a schedule life skills. [music] So, how excited is all this and that proves that we're still [music] >> we are very proud of our school as we've earned an overall fourstar rating and even more impressive we have full school rating in our SCES subgroups teachers focus on what we need students can succeed

010>> [music] >> At Crim PreKa, our group is built on focusing on equity and instruction and excellence for every student using data not too great but as a guide for our instruction. That success is powered by our staff's commitment to constantly improving their teaching methods. We ensure fiduciary responsibility by strategically selecting and investing in evidence-based training. We completed the letters for administration course with the first in the county uh in January of 2024. This training directly supports our literacy goals and our strategic plan and our staff uses vertical planning and PLC's to guarantee a cohesive strategic academic journey from preK through 8th grade. A sustained return on instruction. [music] Being on the moon means we never settle. We are always invested in our future. Next year, our new outdoor school facility rooms and concession stand

011[music] should be we are getting a brand new swim set on the paper. We are expanding our reach bar and family table trainings for parents on supporting literacy at home. We are starting a volunteer reading program to connect the community members by a little of [music] our students. From our foundational community to the commitment of academic excellence, Proc is always. >> Thank you for joining us on this journey. >> We are excellent. Thank you for watching. >> bye. [music] >> It's a busy place. That is fantastic. >> Excellent. >> Well, one of our goals this year was to improve our communication with our community. Um, we really wanted to build more bridges and we've been working on that for a while. And so, what we decided to do was share the good things that are

012going on in our school because the majority of these things have been happening for years, >> right? >> It's just that we're so busy in the day doing the things that we do that we don't always communicate that well. But this class has allowed us to improve that. And we're doing the work. The kids are doing the work, >> right? So, uh, really what people want to see is they want to see what their children, what their grandchildren are doing, and that's, uh their investment in the school, and I think that we've accomplished that here. Um, we just have wonderful things going. We still have plans for the future. We were talking about the playground. Uh, we've got our swing ordered. Once we get that and our our fencing up, that will be completed. We'll

013finish up our field with the facility and hopefully fencing in the near future. That will be finished. I I was talking to Missy in the beginning and I said I'm I'm just a couple of years away from retirement. Um Miss Vance I think is is leaning in that direction too. So we've been sitting and making our lists of big projects that need to be completed before we call it a day. Um so that's that's where we're looking at this point just making sure that you know when we hand the school off to whoever steps into those positions that things are finished and that we're in a really good place. And right now we are. We're we're just u academically uh we're in a good strong position. Always hoping to grow. We're never we're never good

014enough. You know, as long as there are children that aren't at mastery, we're never good enough. And so that's always our goal. Um but we feel like that we're doing great things and we're glad that we were able to share that with you today. I hope you enjoyed it. >> Thank you. >> You guys, let me go back to your title page so that I can update our our homepage on the board site. Um, >> and while you're getting that picture, I'm going to let the folks that are online know that there's a problem with the stream. I know it's working properly now, but it's getting ready to shut down. So, those of you that have joined us on the live stream, um, we're I'm going to have to restart the stream. So, if you'll

015log back in u same place that you originally logged in, we're going to restart the stream now so uh that that your stream doesn't get interrupted. Thank you. to run our technology sometimes. >> Okay, I think we're fine. >> We're back up. >> Yep. >> All right, it's moving on to our new section of the agenda. Anyone have any specific good news that they want to share other than what we've already this this evening? We had some wonderful meals at the schools for Thanksgiving >> and uh down at Wayne High School today. >> Yes, we did. >> We had a chance to go down and and uh help serve students and then uh >> but the the meal was fantastic and I told Kathy >> those sweet potatoes >> and uh you know the turkey

016>> with the with the stuffing and the sweet potatoes. >> Yeah, I didn't get to taste that. So, yeah, >> it was it was it was quality and the kids really appreciated it. Oh, I saw I saw some pictures. I was pretty jealous myself. So, >> and of course, Johnita enjoyed it. >> I really did. >> Not the sweet potatoes. I'm just saying that everything else you don't like. >> You're not a sweet potato person. >> No. >> Thank you. >> It was fantastic. It was >> and we appreciate the invite and thank you for letting us help with the kids. And I'm glad I got to see a lot of kids I knew and the teacher everything the kids were so well behaved and everything. It was really nice. >> Lot of meeting too.

017>> Busy day. >> Big crowd. Yep. [laughter] >> There was last week I got a call from Dave Codle to inform me that all of his firefighting students had passed the first module of firefighter one state of West Virginia. They all passed CPR and they all passed hazardous material identification. So, that's pretty good when you're batting a thousand. [laughter] >> Yeah, I did see some photos of them getting to use the ladder truck and >> I told Todd I didn't want him to see that. [laughter] >> I'm sure all safety all safety measures. >> They were, but it was 75 ft in the air. >> Yeah. atmosphere. >> The uh uh on the athletic side of things, we had the Spring Valley High School volleyball team advance to the final four in the state. Um

018they lost the in the semi-final match, but they had a very good season. And then um the Spring Valley High School cheerleaders made it to the state competition. Believe that was taking uh took place yesterday. I haven't seen any results. >> Third place. They took >> third place. Okay. >> Third place uh for their division. So, >> uh, Tulsa High School made it to the football playoffs and, uh, they had to travel to Wheeling to play and, uh, they lost in that first round. But, u, they, they Wheeling Central was one of the top rated teams in the state. >> Yeah. >> And [clears throat] then, Spring Valley High School won their first playoff round and they play again at home uh, Saturday night at 7. >> Yeah. Robert Seab Bird is their competitor this

019weekend, so that should be a good game. >> Yeah. Lane's volleyball girls. How far did they go, Kathy? Was it regional or did they get eliminated in the first round of the >> They went the first round. I don't know which that is, but >> yeah, but they had a good season also. >> Yeah, they made it out. So, that's good. >> All right, moving on to ourformational items then. No school November 24th to the 28th. That's our Thanksgiving break. A special meeting on Tuesday, December 2nd, beginning at 4, Buffalo Elementary, and then Buffalo Middle to follow beginning at 5. Regular meeting on Tuesday, December the 9th, here in the board conference room at six o'clock. Regular meeting on Tuesday, December 16th, 6 o'clock again here in the board conference room. And then no school

020December 22nd through January 1st. That'll be the Christmas break. >> There's a small chance I may be calling in on December 2. I've got a hearing up in Clarksburg that morning. Okay. It should be over in time, but >> Right. Just let us know. We'll take care of you. >> All right. Uh we can move on to our construction project updates. >> So on the Buffalo project, we have received the development and design drawings for the project and um our construction management services are reviewing those designs. We'll be meeting I think during the first week of December uh for to prepare those for submittal to the state. So things are moving along there. Other than that, no additional updates. >> Okay. I don't think we have any delegations this evening. So we can move on

021to our superintendent reports. >> Yeah. So, you have a in front of you, you have a handout that says general fund budget planning and uh Jeb and I have continued to work this week on the um on target numbers and we have a new target number for reduction this year and unfortunately that number is higher than what we had previously estimated. Um we were we were at 3.3 million and we think it's going to take more like 4.2 million in reductions uh for the budget for next year. [clears throat] And where that came from, we we had received some additional monies for ECATs uh for third grade, but because of the enrollment loss last year, our overall personnel funding had dropped even though we received approximately 675,000 for those additional positions. The enrollment loss was

022was greater than that. We actually had a drop of about $300,000 in personnel. So, our funding for service personnel was up, but our funding for professional was low. So when it comes down to the it was lower and was lowered to uh to such a significant amount that it that it dropped the overall number to uh to a negative. So 4.2 million is what we're looking at. At the last meeting I told you that we would speak more about this this evening. We have went through all the schools services etc to identify cuts and u uh for the coming year and I just wanted to give you an update on where we are. So under number one um we've [clears throat] talked about some of this information before but the first bullet there talks about

023the prior deficit from fiscal year 25. So last year's deficit was $900,000. uh we were in the red on the budget. So new pressures for the upcoming year of we're projecting a loss of state aid of approximately 1.5 million and again we will not know that exact number until the final computations come out. We're expecting the preliminary computations. Jeb, is it in December that we normally get those? It's normally December, but they've been going probably about more of January. >> Okay. [clears throat] Um, so we're we're expecting a loss of about 1.5 million in in state aid because of the enrollment loss for this year. Um, as I told you before, we're trying to free up approximately 2.3 million uh for construction projects that are beginning next year. Um, the this year's budget had already

024had an overall decrease of $324,000 in state revenue. Um and then we off offsetting those um offsetting those deficits. We had uh taken personnel action last year that had resulted in a reduction of approximately $810,000. Todd, can I interrupt you just a second? >> Sure. >> I think there's a typo. the additional loss in state revenue at least on my copies or that was 324,630. >> Yes, thousand. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. That should have been a decimal there. >> Gotcha. >> That was really scaring me. >> Yeah. Um, so you if you factor all that together, you take the the 900,000 deficit plus the 1.5 million that we're anticipating losing this year because of the enrollment drop, plus the 2.3 needed for construction, plus the U deficit that had occurred in this year's funding

025due to enrollment loss and then um subtracting out from that the improvements of the $810,000 in improvements uh in personnel cuts uh that leaves the number at about 4.2 million. So if you go on down to item number two, you'll see cuts that we've identified over the last several weeks. Now, usually we do this work in January, but again, we've started this work early because of the [snorts] implications for facilities. So, we've identified approximately $187,000 in contracts that can be made. Um, service positions, we've identified approximately 371,000 and reductions there. teacher positions, we've identified a potential 523,000 in reductions. And then administrative reductions, we've identified uh a number close to 291,000. So the total reductions on page two that we've identified is approximately 1.3 million. In [clears throat] addition, the board has been working to

026get rid of some excess properties and so we're going to realize the savings there. Um that'll actually go above the 29,000 because there'll be some insurance costs that are that are saved there as well. Um so that goes to the good side of the ledger. Um number four is any positions that have been added since the certified list. And you'll see that we've had to add everything is really special needsbased or state um classroom size based. So we had we've had to add a prek special needs teacher that was at Crumb. We've had to add two autism mentors um because of severe needs in a special education in special education classrooms. Um, we've added an additional autism mentor that will be uh coming up soon, probably on your next agenda down at Tulsa High School

027that is is needed for special needs. And then we've added a half a cook at Buffalo Elementary School um because of that and that will be coming up on your next agenda uh because of the number of meals that are coming out of the kitchen there, which is a good thing. Um, but those new cost and personnel are about 270,000. >> And if I understand, not that I'd be against doing this, but we don't even have a choice under the law, do we? We've got to add these on special needs. >> Correct. Right. >> Correct. >> This goes back to that discussion we were having during the legislative session about, >> you know, it it there needs to be a fund >> for students who do not fit the normal staffing ratios. >> Yeah. Um

028because those costs just eat you up. >> Exactly. You have to provide it whether you have it or not. So >> So moving down to So there's 270,000 in additional cost there. So um moving down to the net effect versus that, you know, roughly 4.2 million goal. If you apply the new reductions and the funding shifts that we talked about, you we're going to be able to reduce that number by 1.3 million in recurring savings. And so that leaves about 2.8 million left. Um you factor in utility savings and again that number is going to be a little bit higher with the insurance. That's going to leave around 2.82 million that needs to be saved. But we have to factor in that 270,000 in additional cost that we picked up because of those special needs,

029which takes us back up to about $3 million. So the total new number six basically where we stand again, you've got the you've got the savings that have been identified. Um when you look at the numbers still required to meet the 4.2 2 million goal, you're just slightly over $3 million. Um, so we need to identify approximately, you know, that 3.09 09 million and additional recurring reductions or shift revenue to other other funding sources besides the general budget. So, when you look at that number that we're trying to get to, that 3 million number, um, talking about facilities, we have 3 million left to get to and we've already in the planning, we've already reduced, you know, approximately 1.3, >> right? >> Or 1.13. So, [snorts] there's still a lot uh a lot left to

030uh to put into the planning phase to get to that 3 million number. So, we've had discussions back in 2019. We had hearings on the possible closure of Dunlow and Genanoa. If those facilities were closed, we would save approximately $1.7 million. Now, even if both of those facilities were closed, there's still more planning work that has to occur between now and the end of January to get the budget balanced out. We still have about 1.3 million in cuts that needed to be made. >> Yeah. which is basically doubling what we've already identified. >> Right? >> If option B would be to consider consolidation and if you consolidated the two schools, the recurring savings would drop to about $900,000. And uh that would leave us about looking at the next bullet, the remaining gap would leave

031us about 2.1 million that we would have to cut. >> [clears throat] >> which you're you're you're doubling >> the additional cuts that you would have to make if you if you keep one of the buildings open, >> right? >> And and consolidate the two. >> Um so >> that's ugly. >> Yeah, there's there's considerable work that needs to be done there. So, I I met I went down and met with the staff of Genanoa and Dunlow this afternoon and I've explained the numbers to them and um I made it, you know, I did I did discuss the fact that if there was any way to get to that number and to keep the schools consolidated that we would do that. But um seeing as how we've already identified 1.3 million in cuts and we

032have another million to go >> and it would be 2 million if we consolidated the schools. I don't know how it's possible. Um so I think that um we're going to have to move forward with the with the process of looking at the future of the two facilities. So what I will do is on your December 9th regular meeting, I will ask you to authorize me to uh schedule public hearings and to prepare an impact statement so we can review it and look at the uh actual impact of of the closure of the two buildings uh going forward. And so that would be on the December 9th agenda. And again, you're not approving anything at that point. you're just authorizing me to schedule the hearings, >> but uh I really don't think that uh in

033looking at the numbers and the work that's already been done and and we're going to continue to look at we have to identify another million regardless, right? >> So, we're going to continue to look at cost-saving measures, but I really think that we're at the point where we do not have a choice. we're going to have to move forward with the with the facilities and at the least at the very least uh they would be consolidated. So those hearings need to take place. [cough] I have a question on as I look at these autism mentors and so forth u those positions and I may not I may know the answer but I don't think I do. [laughter] can those funded through the office of special programs. >> Some of them are >> how how can

034we I would like to request the operating budget for office of special programs all of the administrative costs and the people that are actually paid through that what we get from the the federal state levels and what we are who >> how that's being divided out. I want to see the budget for that particular >> department. Yes. Sure. Yeah, no problem. Um I have looked at that. Um the on average in across the nation you have between 80 to 90% of the budget is uh of the special needs budget goes for personnel. Um so that's what we took a specific look at that. Our budget right now, I believe, is at 93% of that budget is going for personnel. And um some of the funding shifts that I identified earlier on, I've asked them to

035pick up some additional positions to pull them off the off the general budget. So, it would actually go a little bit higher than 93%, but we'll we'll pull the exact numbers for you and show you where that money is going. And at some point, [laughter] and I know I'm requesting a lot here, but at some point I would like to see each department with an operating budget. I would like to see that broken down into every department, you know, the maintenance, the tenants, everything that is departmentalized. I'd like to see a breakdown of the people that are paid underneath that. Um, and what the funding for it is. >> Okay. >> Yeah. As we're planning for the additional amount that has to come out. Yeah. Right. We'll we'll go through all that with a fine

036tooth comb. >> Yeah. >> Just like to take a look at it. >> Sure. [clears throat] >> Any other questions? >> When uh when we have some of these mentors and other positions that come out of the federal um funds, is that their benefits as well everything for them or is it just the salary itself? >> Question. the uh the possessions that are coming out of the federal funds does that includes their benefits. >> So even though we're over formula with all these individuals, we're not getting dinged on the general budget for that as well. All federal funds. Okay. >> Hey, I would like to ask a question. >> Sure. Uh, I've never been in the legislature, so I don't know. But over the many years during the times I was teaching and now since

037I've been on the board, we keep getting these cuts and we keep getting our our amounts that we get reduced and it's happening all over the state. What happens that money that we don't get? What's the legislature doing with that? And Is that something we they could should consider? I don't know. It seems like that >> we're just getting suffocated. >> Yeah, I understand your question. I know that the the funding that they're providing to the districts, you know, the whole the school funding formula is tied to student enrollment, >> right? >> And so the reason that it's being reduced everywhere is because enrollment is dropping most everywhere. Um, >> but the legislature, they're putting less money in. Are they diverting it somewhere some special little project or something? >> Well, I think I think

038I think with the student enrollment drop, I think you also have an overall population drop. And I think anytime that you have that overall population drop as well that the revenue at the state level would be going down. But Mark, do you want to >> that? That's true. And the other thing is is the budget for the West Virginia Department of Education is massive. I talked about it a little bit in our legislative meeting the other night. Uh there's 600 and I'm you can't quote me on this, but there's a large 600 some employees in the Department of Education. If the legislature, this is my opinion, been there so I kind of know how it works a little bit. If they would look at that school funding formula and try to do something to streamline

039that Department of Education in Charleston where we come down to a more local control, I'm all about that. >> I really am. I think that we know better what what's going on in Wayne County. What goes on in Wayne County is not the same thing that's going on in >> Can County or up in the eastern panhandle where you know the things are so different. But I also think that the legislature has not taken into consideration the problems with the local schools and funding for public schools. It seems like they're interested in other things. >> It's been that way for >> any more fun. >> It's been that way since 2000 when I was there the first time. [laughter] There's been very little change. >> It's been fortunate that we we you know we've invited

040them. We've discussed it with them. We've given them our opinions and even our possible solutions, but >> Mark, >> we're still at the same spot >> with student population going down in that department of education. Is it going down any? >> No, that's that was my point. [laughter] >> That's that's that's an issue that I have. That's the reason I've been somewhat critical, >> right? for lack of a better word which but uh you know when you streamline and we have to cut positions and we have to lay teachers off and I've said this a hundred times in board meetings maybe close to it anyway when we take away a person that's in contact with these students every day and leave those positions that are getting paid four [snorts] times as much as what our

041teachers and our cooks and our custodians and our bus driver are getting paid. There's something wrong with that. I mean, we know that our state is a aging population. Our population is down. We know that our tax base is not what it used to be and all that thing, but that school funding formula can be fixed. In 2020 two, we were like three votes shy of the education committee of presenting a new plan where some things would be more focused on the smaller counties because it's not just us. I mean, their summit's in worse shape than we are as far as student population, but until they get a majority and until we can do something at that level, this is the hand we've been dealt. And I told Todd today, I said, "It doesn't look

042like it's going to u >> change >> anytime soon." >> Yeah, that's one of the things that's frustrating. I mean, this is kind of gut-wrenching what we're having to look at right now. >> Yes. And I'm already kind of the pessimist in me. Next year, the year after that, it's going to be >> it's just more of the same. >> Repeat. >> Stop. It's >> more of the same. >> Well, I know in 2017 um the enrollment was over 7,000 >> and we're sitting at um >> 57 >> 58. >> Yeah. Roughly 5,800 now. And um we are still one of the larger districts in the state. So to your point that this is occurring in multiple places and I mean every morning I turn on the radio as I'm getting ready to come to

043work, you hear closure hearings, closure hearings, closure hearings. >> And I think they said last year there was a historical number of of closures um in the state and that number is continuing this year. And we're just at the point where um our enrollment has fallen to the point where we cannot operate um we we cannot operate 18 buildings. And to your point about what happens next year and the year after we mentioned this, you know, once before, but >> more closure, >> there's going to be more schools that are affect affected. You have Vincent Middle that's uh dropped below 150 students. Um you have uh uh Pritchard um that is uh you know slightly over 100. You have East Lynn that is uh slightly over 100. Um and those uh pressures are are going

044to keep going. But you know I I was just looking at the at the student aid that we receive based upon the enrollment at Dunlow and Janoa. It's in the 300,000 range for both schools. Uh is the uh revenue that we receive on on those buildings uh from the student populations and the uh operating cost of the schools are 900,000 to a million, >> right? So, >> and so it's a it's a it's a losing proposition there. And uh you know, I would love to be able to just combine them >> and uh that would put them if if every student uh from both schools attended one building, >> but they would still, you know, be around that 100 mark, they would still be our smallest school. >> Okay. >> Um combined. And uh uh

045but the bottom line is we we've got to get to the number and it's, you know, it's been coming for for several years. So, we're we're just going to have to have to deal with it. >> Did you >> even though the enrollment drops, our facilities don't get any smaller >> or our you know, our faculty doesn't get any smaller. >> So, >> did anybody happen to listen to the secretary of education at national level today? Did you hear? >> I didn't hear today. >> They're starting the dismantling of the federal department of education, which is wonder that's wonderful thing because >> that's just a lot of bureaucracy from a federal level. if my understanding was correct that there's like $20,000 per per student that is being allotted from a federal level to each student

046in Wayne or in in the United States. >> And you look what we get by the time it gets to to the school to the Wayne County school system. Okay. What about a fourth of that? >> Seven roughly 7,000. >> So roughly we'll say >> I think it was it was 6,800. >> So where's the rest of that at? I think we all know the answer to that. It's in administrative fees at those other levels. It needs to be in the classroom where those kids are and I'll die on that hill. >> Exactly. I mean, >> one thing really gets kind of some off top the problems we got and I look at some of our counties in this state are even bigger geographically with even fewer people. Where they going to be? They're going

047to be down to one school in their whole county. >> Yep. >> That's exactly what it's going to that's exactly the direction it's going. focus one high school, one middle school. [clears throat] >> Well, they'll be able to jump across county lines if it's >> K12. >> They better be >> where we border. >> They better be good jumpers. >> They can they can go across the county line. I mean, but uh >> I mean this is like you said though, this is the hand that we [clears throat] are dealt. >> No one's going to change it or save us. >> Doesn't look like it. So timelinewise, um December 9th is when I'll ask you to authorize me to to put put together the book list and schedule the hearing so that there can be,

048you know, further discussion and then we would be looking at uh late in January. Um having those hearings, we just have to wrap it up by the end of January. Um so I I put a draft timeline in front of you. None of this is set in stone, but I just wanted to give you some rough dates of of when we would do the advertisements in the newspaper would be early January. Would be looking at public hearings around January 22nd, 23rd. Um, and then u looking at a vote either at one of those hearings or at at the regular board meeting on January 27th. and then um we would submit the decision to the state after that. >> I just think it's a cry of shame that we can't get any help in helping the

049legislature. It seems like they're more interested in private schools and charter schools and then we'll have to close a couple of little schools in those communities lose their identity. It it breaks my heart and and I just don't understand it. >> Well, I'm just ask for the record. If we don't do this and we just go into a financial black hole, >> what eventually happens? The state takes us over, right? >> What happened in Rome County? Rome County couldn't meet their payroll >> and the state had to advance their funding so that they could meet their payroll. And then they've intervened there and they're closing down schools now. >> Yeah. >> So we don't get >> Yeah. We don't get the choice at that point. >> Yeah. >> That's what's scary. >> They take that

050choice away from us. So >> yeah, >> we get to blame. But I do I you know I do want to say that you know that the 1.3 million in cuts that we've already identified are at every level and >> exactly >> there's going to have to be another million in cuts that are identified. >> Yeah. Somewhere >> everybody's going to be touched by it. Yeah. So, >> and we will be provided with the specifics of what these are whenever you put on there about administrative cuts and those things that you'll tell us what they are, >> what people or what not there. >> Yeah. And that happens during riff and transfer season. So, >> but that's is that after the fact of what we're going to have to deal with on the Genoa and

051Dunlow thing though? >> Yeah. Yeah. Timelines are kind of crazy. >> Yeah. Be a fun spring, won't it? So, >> any more questions? >> No, that's just an ugly number that we have to get to. >> Yep. Okay, that's all I have. >> All right. No board directives or board reports this evening or unfinished business. We can move on to our new business and consent action items. The [clears throat] superintendent recommends approval of the following action items. Additional items received prior to the time of the meeting may be added. Discussion and or separate action of items may be requested by members of the board andor the superintendent. Items are subject to change. Any blanks will be filled in prior to the meeting. In the event a nominee withdrawals, we reserve the right to put the

052next candidate in that position. Number one, consider for approval the recommended personnel matters. Pages one through three. Motion to approve as revised. >> Second. >> Motion [clears throat] to approve by Jonita. Second by Mark. And this is a revised copy that [clears throat] we have. >> Yeah, it's got the names filled in. Um the posting was because we moved this meeting up because of the Thanksgiving holiday. The posting was coming down. So we had uh quite a few blanks on which we normally don't have, but the names have been filled in for you. Any questions, concerns, [clears throat] discussion on the personnel matters? None heard. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Motion carries 5 to zero. Number two, consider for approval the purchase requisition order in quotes in excess of $5,000 on

053pages 4 through 12. >> Motion by Randy. >> Second. Second by Jonita. Questions, concerns. >> Page four is HVAC uh for the special needs room down at uh Tulsa High School. Had to have a new unit put on there. >> Um page five is the vehicle that we talked about last week. >> Yeah, perfect. >> That will be our last vehicle purchase. Um, page six, uh, we did get bids on fencing. Uh, this is for the, uh, playground at Wayne Elementary where we did the new >> prek edition. >> And the prek playground is going in. So, we have to have fencing around it. >> And then page seven is the fencing for the crumb playground. that is new. And that was um I know they raised quite a bit of money to get that

054playground put in. >> I think D said they raised like $25,000. That's pretty impressive. >> Uh page eight is what the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals. This is the appeals. This is the schoolbased probation officer portion of this is grant funded. Yeah. Page nine is um parts uh worldwide equipment heritage. So this is a smaller PO. We broke those up. And then uh page 10 is Kenny Queen Hardware Maintenance Supplies. Uh page 11 is uh technology that allows our technology department to access and put apps on the Prometheium boards and to access and troubleshoot those Prometheium boards um remotely. That's funded through the uh technology department. Page 12. Uh we you purchased the vehicle earlier for the U maintenance department that also had a the hookup for the snow plow. This is the purchase

055of the snow plow itself. >> Okay. All right. Any questions or concerns? All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? [clears throat] Motion carries. Five to zero. This was after the fact, but is that snow plow that truck going to be operational for this snow season? [laughter] >> Thanks. >> Yeah, day after Thanksgiving. >> Luckily, we're at least on break that week. So, >> yeah, that's good. But >> that worked out. All right. New business, separate action items. Number one, consider for approval the out of state travel request. Employee traveling to Mstead Falls High School in Cleveland, Ohio. December 8th and 9th and that's funded by Perkins CTE funds. >> Second >> motion by Johnita, second by Randy. >> What's that for? >> They're going to observe the U we're looking at that lean six

056sigma certification for our high school students and there's a program operating um at Mstead Falls that has that uh certification up and running. And so Christy Bootton with our internship program is is going to go up and see how they've set that up to see if we can possibly replicate it. >> Now, is that funded? Says Perkins. What is that? >> CTE funding. Career technical education funding. >> Funded. >> Yeah. So, it's funding we received from the state department for career. >> I wish him a good trip. I had some of my colleagues were up in Cleveland and start a trial earlier this week and they said when they rounded the sidewalk the lake it just about knocked him down the window. >> All right. All in favor then? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion

057carries 5 to zero. Number two, consider for approval the snow removal proposal. >> The snow bid proposal was in your uh separate attachments. >> Yes. And so we had uh we had bid out. We had the company out of Logan Superior Pocahontas that had bid the first time and that was the only bid that we had received. So we had approved them for the Tulsa area. We rebid uh we rebid it and we did receive a bid proposal from Rocky Knob Farm. This is Jason Ekers who did the work last year and he bid on the Spring Valley zone and the Wayne zone. Those are the two remaining zones. Uh the Spring Valley zone is 120 per hour not to exceed 7,000. So 7,000 was the cap on the event. Uh Superior Pocahontas had bid

0587200 for the Spring Valley zone. the Wayne zone. Um he bid7,000 on per event a cap and superior Pocahontas had bid 6400 on the Wayne zone. Um, so what I would recommend to you is that we approve Rocky Knob Farm for the Spring Valley zone at the 7,000 uh cap per event and that um we use the snow plow that has been purchased this evening and uh with some help from Superior Pocahontas with their lower bed on the Wayne zone to take care of the Wayne zone as needed. >> I'll make a motion to approve. Second >> motion by John, second by Mark. Any other questions or concerns? >> It bothers me that we're going out of county again. >> Have our local people doing the uh Wayne. >> We are >> maybe everything now.

059The I think Dennis, I think the the plan is that we personally our our maintenance and and transportation department will work the Wayne area. >> We're just going to approve the >> Yeah, we we'll need some salting and things like that. And if it's >> just some maybe some assistance, >> it's a heavy snow. It'll be too much for one plow. So, um Superior Pocahontas had to lower a bid on that particular area. But we had already approved them to help. >> Yeah. >> With the Wayne area. >> All any area. >> Any area is needed. >> So So we should be covered between a plow of our own and two other vendors. >> That'll save us some money. >> We should be We should be in good shape. >> Save that money. I think

060you already realize my goal is I want to see us taking care of all of it and letting our people have the opportunity to make that money or make the extra money. That's that's my long-term goal >> if we can afford the equipment to go, >> right? But when we're looking at $8,000 for that plow and you know, we bought two new trucks, a relatively new truck. So maybe we can get another plow later and that's going to completely take should completely take care of one zone, >> right? >> Yeah. We hope >> problem is we're talking about trying to come up with two or three million dollars that we're going to be over. It seems like we're going to have some expenses there. I don't I don't understand the savings. >> Well, I hope

061it goes back to a few I when we first put this in place, we didn't use it for three years. >> I was on the board for years. >> It's pretty simple though. This the savings is pretty simple. Whenever you own your own piece of equipment, it may it's a long-term investment. You know, you you don't we may have to call out two times in one week for $7,000 when we have if we have our own really if we have our own equipment, we've already got it covered. >> This hopefully this will take care of us for the short term. So, if there's >> additional personnel, >> is that going to be an expense? >> Uh, it could it could be. Uh, it could be. It just it just depends on the situation. Um if

062school was closed down when things are getting cleared off which is usually the case then it would not be an additional expense because uh we're already the central office would be open um at that point anyway. The only time it would become an expense is >> yeah the only time it would become an expense as if we had to do it at the evening or the weekend. >> All right. Any other questions or concerns? So all we're approving is for Rocky Rocky whatever >> Rocky Knob Farm Valley >> for $7,000 >> for the Spring Valley zone at the for the Spring Valley zone. >> Wayne, we're not doing anything. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Got it. >> All right, everyone. >> Pray for global warming. >> Exactly. Let's hope for a >> Better weather or

063better timing. One of the two. >> Yeah. >> Right. All in favor then? I >> Any opposed? So, okay. So, motion carries 4 to one. >> Number three, consider for approval the school mapping proposal for the critical response group at a total cost of $58,500 and this is grant funded. >> This was part of your separate attachment as well. So, this goes back to the legislation where we're required to do safety mapping of all of our school locations. And um we had I had a chance to meet with this company. Mike Hart and I met with the critical response group and uh [clears throat] th this was the low bidder on the project. We did put out a request for a proposal on this. >> We received a number of bids. I think it was

064three or four three or four different um bids. Um CRG was the uh was the most costefficient. And you remember that we're allowed to request money uh to help compensate us for getting this done. And their bid fell within this won't cost us anything. >> Oh, that's great. The the grant should cover all of it. >> That's fantastic. >> And I know that they're doing I saw a list of counties that they're doing. They're doing at least probably a third of the state. Uh but their process is uh is is uh pretty impressive and um they will the purpose of this is they're going to create these safety maps and then they're going to be uh in the technological format that allows 911 and first responders to be able to access those maps through their

065systems. And uh as part of their proposal uh they are going to do a uh a planning activity uh once all the maps are completed where we do a walkth through table activity with with our first responders to access and see how it would work if if there was a real crisis. >> That's fantastic. And so there was a significant packet that I provided you as a separate attachment where you see them uh the services that they offer and this should be completed. It'll be completed by the end of this year and likely sooner. And again, >> didn't we pull that out last year? How come we're doing it again? Well, what we'll refresh. >> Yeah. What what we did is we take all of our we we have already as a county, we took

066all of our um all of our layouts, all of our um specs for all of our buildings and provided those to 911. and um 911 keeps those in their office uh for to pull up in case there is an incident. >> Do you think that was accurate? >> I I that that was a good move. But what this will do is this actually puts it in a technological format that they can access in in their devices. Um, so it is it will make it easier for them to access and they will have it at all times. So it's not only just stored at the 911 office, but it's it's stored with every first responder that we have. So when they come in and do the tabletop exercise, they'll be working with our fire departments, the

067sheriff's department, the state police. Um they'll be working with everybody to make sure that everybody has access uh to these maps. Okay, I'll go along with that since it'll make it safer for our personnel and our kids. >> Yeah, >> I like looking at the qualifications of key staff. You look at that and every one of them was in Army, Marines, a police veteran. It's [laughter] >> pretty impressive. >> Pretty good resumes. Yeah. >> Well, and that's actually their um you know, in in meeting with them. That's how their company got started is they've seen the effectiveness of these uh these maps uh in military operations and they they saw a opportunity to to provide these to school systems. >> Yeah. I not I mean not that just being just in the service that's a

068lot but it's I'm looking special operations uh uh purple heart deck rated marine officer I mean on and on it's like >> impressive >> very impressive motion to approve >> moved [laughter] >> it's okay I'll second it >> was I doing this through. >> So Johnny, you made the motion. Mark got the second. >> Mark have it. I don't >> No, I'm fine. I second. >> We're all on the same page. We're good. Any other questions or concerns on the mapping project? >> All right. All in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Five to zero. Number four, consider for approval the Hillyard for gym floor refinishing at a total of $15,61725. >> No. >> For the following schools, >> I said, "Where's a separate attachment?" We didn't get it. [laughter] >> Is it not in

069your separate attachment? >> No, that's what I was >> I kept looking. I mean, I'm okay with that. It sounds fine, but [laughter] >> let me explain. >> Explain it. at uh again we got bids on for this as well. Um it's gym floor refinishing. So we rotate the schools. We do one set one year. Next year we do the remainder of the schools. So it's it's just our annual refinishing of the gym floors. >> That's the total >> we did bid it out. Yep. That's a total amount. So uh for those number of schools, this was the low bidder. Um, Hillyard is a uh they provide the supplies and then they use a subcontractor to do the work in the schools and um we have uh we have checked into them and uh they

070have done some good work. We we did do and let me say this, Vincent Metal should not be on here. >> Okay, >> we used another company for Vincent Metal. uh the company that installed you remember a few years ago we had to completely >> red >> we didn't just re we refinish their floor >> um we completely refinished their floor sanded it down and everything. So the company that did that um they went in and did the work at Benson Middle. Their bid was slightly higher just a few hundred higher but um they had already been in there and they did a good job so we let them go back into Benson Middle. >> So a total of five schools. >> Yes. Five schools. Make a motion to approve. Second. >> Motion by Randy,

071second by Mark. >> Any other questions or concerns? None heard. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Five to zero. Potential items for a future agenda. >> As I mentioned before, December 9th, I'll ask you to authorize me to prepare the impact statements and and uh to schedule public hearings. Other than that, that's all I have. >> Anyone else? No one >> move to adjourn. >> Thank you, Mark. Or Randy, >> whoever you >> I was going to go down the line [laughter] like my mother. >> Second. Anybody second, Mark? Thank you. >> Spray water everywhere. [laughter] >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 is 7:13. That is all and thank you for joining us. >> How many times? >> Um right now we've got 21. >> Thank you

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