001slightly probably have Okay, if you want to turn on your mics and then we'll let Missy open the meeting. All right, everybody ready? Yep. We're going to call our regular meeting of the Wayne County Board of Education to order. It is 6 o'clock. And if you'll stand, we'll say the pledge. Mark, do you want to plead us? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. For all. Thank you. Let the record show that all board members are present in person except for um Miss Johnita Jackson who is with us by phone. Yes, I am. Thank you. Are you seeing better? She had a little surgery today, so she's going to join us
002by phone this evening. And we'll begin this evening's uh meeting with recognitions if we have any. No recognitions this evening. None this evening. All right, let's move on to our presentations. Measuring success with Nikki Stephy. Hey, I don't have a lot of updates, but this out. So, our high schoolers um this past well, they're currently we're in the SAT school day window. So, they are finishing up their makeups right now. And last month, our ninth graders took the PSAT 89 and our 10th graders took the PSAT 10. So, I'll be reporting out on all of that data for high schoolers. Um next month, we should have our SAT data by then. So, the only data I have today is our attendance data update, which takes us to page 10, I believe. And currently, our percentage
003of students chronically absent is 28%. So, that's up slightly from last month, but we're still below where we ended last school year at 33. So, um, that's a positive. And I was just talking with Terry Lynn. We've got some different things going on the schools for those attendance incentives and she's got some other ideas we're getting ready to um start working on to put more information out to parents and families about chronic absenteeism. And then if you go over to page 11, this is our staff chronic absenteeism data. So for our staff for April, 14% chronically absent with 13% for our professional and 16% for our service personnel. And then over to page 13 is our updated walkthrough data which with this month we had spring break in the mix and so didn't have as
004many instructional days. So for the month of April um I pulled this data yesterday. We were at 100 walkthroughs and within those when looking at that thank ratio 18% were marked low, 45% medium and 37% marked high. And then on the back sheet walk through data this is those participation ratios which is that level of visible student engagement. And if we start off there, April for the 100 walkthroughs, 7% were marked low, 23% medium, and 70% high. So, not a lot of updates today, but like I said, next month we'll have that high school data to look at. And um I do want to remind you that the GSA testing, the West Virginia General Summit of Assessment, that starts on May 5th. So, we have a couple schools starting the week of May 5th. The
005majority of our schools are going to be testing the week of May 12th. Um, we will be having a visit from the state department. They will be visiting CK Elementary during testing on May 6th. I will be there with them. And, um, I think everybody's prepared and ready. Our teachers were doing walkthroughs today at Crime and Fort and everybody's getting ready preparing for this big test. So I'm eager to see how that turns out. Now this year the parents are going to have a new way to see how their kids performed. Is that correct? Yes. So the parent portal launched last year um and this year parents have been been able to access last year's summitive results as well as this year's benchmark for the fall and winter. But when they test this year, as
006soon as the student tests, parents will have immediate access to their child's scores. They have to have an individualized access code. So letters have either already been sent home or they have to be sent home prior to testing. So I just sent a reminder back out to principles to send those letters home. There's two letters. One is a letter that comes from the state department that just notifies parents of testing. The second one is one where I have put each child's access code. So, it's individualized letters that will go home. And then, of course, if a parent forgets the code or loses the letter, they can contact the school and they can give them that code to go in and see their score. So, parents typically um have not received scores when they do their
007spring testing until fall. And now they're going to have that immediate access. So, this is really exciting and I'm going to be working at uh pushing that information out on our social media and make sure parents are aware of that. So, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. All right. Any good news to share? [Music] None. All right. Moving on to ourformational items. Special meeting on Tuesday, April 29th, beginning at 4 at Crumb PreK8. And then we'll adjourn uh or recess and resume at Tulsa High School beginning at 5:15 that evening as well. That's our LSIC meeting there. Special meeting on Tuesday, May the 6th, beginning at 4 at Spring Valley High School. That also is an LSIC meeting. a regular meeting on Tuesday, May 13th, beginning at 6, also at Spring Valley High School,
008and a regular meeting on Tuesday, May 27th, 6 o'clock here in the board conference room. Everybody okay with those? Yeah. All right, moving on to our construction project updates. Just a few quick updates. the um uh room addition down at the Wayne Elementary School continues. And so the work that we laid out for you last time has has been taking place as far as the decking going on and uh it's it's coming together nicely. So we should be finished with that project this summer. So u we're pleased with the progress there. Um the uh the designs for the um CK alumni gym basement uh the renovations that are occurring there have been sent to the state department for their review and approval. And then the uh Buffalo uh K through8 project um we are in
009the final stages of design there and are just about ready to send that over to the state and should have that out out for bid in May. Have they got the traffic routing pickup lines? Not not yet. We've had two or three different designs that we've looked at and provided feedback. We're still waiting for the final. I've been thinking about it every time I drive by. Once we get the final, I'll bring those to you and we'll we'll present those here at one of the boards. Sometimes it backs up to tear down to Route 75, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's congested, that's for sure. the uh the sinkhole that developed out at the Spring Valley at the soccer field. We did the pre-bid meeting for that today and we'll do a bid opening on that
010next week. And then also we did a pre-bid meeting today on Lavallet building 5. That's one of the buildings that's closest to the road. It needs a roof replacement. We did a pre-bid meeting for it today as well. Bid opening will be next week. So those those items will be on upcoming agendas. That's fifth grade for me. I'm not sure what grades are in them. Yes. Yeah, that's all I have. Okay, thank you. All right, we'll move on to our delegations this evening. We have several like 10 total. Okay. Um, just to let you all know the the rules for the delegation portion of the meeting are we have 30 minutes to complete the delegation. So, forever how many individuals want to speak, we'll divide that 30 minutes up. So since there's 10, we'll have
0113 minutes a piece to present your information. Uh the board will listen. We can collect the information. We're not allowed to respond or discuss. All we can do is uh collect that information and then we'll review it with our superintendent and he will be in touch with you individually. And we ask that you use uh no personnel names in any of your concerns. Um we we can't have personnel being discussed in a public meeting. Okay. All right. Want me to time it? Uh sure. Miss have one question. Yes, ma'am. When you say no personnel names, if there's an issue with someone that's employed by the board, how do we discuss that without mentioning names? You can speak generally about what your concern is. Right. Right. Just no specific names. Gotcha. And if it's something that
012you feel like you need to do a specific name, then I can meet with you privately and uh we just can't do that in a public meeting. Understand? Okay. Thank you. All right. So, we will begin with Miss Jenna Myers. Jenna Myers. Yes, ma'am. Where is she from? Uh Kenova. Yeah. Works at CK. Um so, come on. Step up, Jana. So sorry. So sorry. We'll make sure the mics pick you up. Okay. Um I had some concerns that I wanted to see if we could address in executive session because of um some of the matters that I wanted to discuss. Is that something that we are able to do? Um I don't know. I don't think we can do that. um we could have you speak with our superintendent and then we can um schedule
013that, put it on the agenda. Okay. So that we can Okay. Right. Um but if there's anything general in your concerns that you want to reiterate we'll wait. That's totally fine. Okay. So we'll get you and Mr. Alexander together and get a date and for the information we need to put on the agenda. Okay. Is that okay? Yes, ma'am. Same. And Claudette and Lori, same thing. All three. Okay. Fantastic. So, Jamie Tomlin. Okay. Can you guys hear me from there since I'm right here? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Um, so I'm here um with some concerns. Um, I'm sure everybody knows what's going on at Crimes PreK through eight. um without bringing any names into it. Um I know that there have been um like we have a new baseball coach. I do know that my son
014plays. Uh my concern is that I would like to petition for an individual investigation on the spouse of said person that has been charged. um because there have been multiple complaints um from a lot of parents um for the administrative level at Crumb PreK through 8 in general talking principal everything. Um I would like for all of that to be investigated as well as his spouse um moving forward just so that we can feel safe sending our kids back to school. Okay. So you you have a specific personnel complaint then about one individual. Yes. Okay. Well, more than one, but yes. Okay. Okay. So, what I'll do is I'll contact you, get the specific information, what your concerns are, and then I'll look into it and then report back to the board. Okay. So, I'll
015be in contact with you no later than tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Tiffany Shelton, do you need me to come up there? Sure, please. Yeah, do read these names later, Missy. Okay, I will. My concern is with preK through 8. Um, I've had known instances of the principal calling um asking why my kids are not in attendance. Um, my kids are not in attendance because the bus is not running by our house. I've called and asked the bus garage and it was said it was due to the bus driver's discretion where he runs and where he does not run. What bus do your kids run? My children ride the web river bin road bus. The road is slipped off. If you know anything about our state road department, they're never going to
016fix that road. Um, so my question is is how does she have the right to call my ex-husband and ask my ex-husband what my work schedule is when he doesn't even know what my work schedule is? Okay. Okay. And you said Web River. What was the other road? We at Riverbend. Riverbin. Okay. Let me follow up with you as well. I'll follow up with you tomorrow about bus garage today and um I asked to speak to the director and I was never given a phone call back also. Yeah. He's he's in a state transportation meeting out of town, but I'll make sure you get a call tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Um, as far as my kids attendance goes, I asked if my children could make up their work online if possible, if they could um if
017I could come in and pick up their work and I was told no to both of those situations. I was speaking very rude to and I would like an investigation open on the principal because I've a lot of the children said that the school was run like a jail. Amen. Thank you. You ready, Jonita? Yes. Okay. Kimberly Justice and my concern would also be um with crime prek through 8. Um I do not feel the children are safe at that school. Um I do not feel that their mental health is intact at that school. they are being bullied not only by children but also by the staff there and if more parents would stand up you guys will be more aware of this situation and hopefully they will start to do that after this point.
018Um there's so many instances that go on children are they're they're being put behind if they're not related to the staff at the school and it's just pick and choose at that school. I feel like the principal needs out of there something needs done. It's there's so many things that's happened. My children have come home injured without me being notified of it. And I had to contact the board of education and be like, "My child come home. I didn't even know what happened." At one point, my child had a concussion. And I was I was not even aware until she got off the school bus with a black eye and a cut down her face. And once I contacted the board, they contacted Nona and said that she had to file an incident report. Um,
019but I've had nothing but problems out of her over and over and over with both of my children at that school. And so at this point, I am going to take my children out and homeschool them. Other parents have already several have already taken their children out yesterday and today. There will be more taking their children out because of this principle and because of this school staff and that that is my concern. Thank you, Justin. justice. Thank you. Well, my name is Justin. I'm not used to this, so bear with me. Uh, so I'm the father of two kids go to that school. Not only my family members go to that school, okay? So, everybody has deep feelings with family and everything through everything. So we all talk and it's not nothing bad believe or
020nothing like that. It's not it's not doing that. Well, this come home. My like my wife explained to you, my children uh have my youngest one has been done that way on three field trips and the teachers who I don't know who they are so I can't name names. so has went with them and uh my daughter had a cut over one eye and I can't remember where the other cut is on the other side where a boy punched her and she went up there to tell the teacher that I'm bleeding and the teacher tells her just put her shoulder over it'll be fine. That's that's not how you control that and that's not how you that's not how you do this. Uh so as me sitting up here talking about yeah I get I
021get a little bit mad because I'm it's my children. Okay. So who else is going to stand up for him other than the parents? So uh and at the school and everything people's going to tell you and have already told you that it is run like a prison. When you're when you walk in there, you are not asked how how you doing? Uh what do you need? What can we help you with or anything? It's it's they look at you like you're stupid and want you to tell them what you need. Well, evidently I'm there to get my kid. So, it's it's not you it's obvious, you know, but it's just no respect at that school and my oldest one has been uh bullied at that school. And as as parents, you don't want your
022kid bullied. Uh even though if you were the bully in school when you was in school or you got bullied, you don't want to be bullied. So, I have I've I've talked to my kids and I talked to my kids and and parent situations, they're going to tell you how to take care of the problem. Okay? Whether that's do it back to them or what you you get what I'm saying? It comes down to that because if you go and talk to the principal or teachers or anything, teachers or anything, you don't get nothing out of them. No, you get pushed aside. Don't worry about it. And like my child, my old one has been there for eight years. She has got straight legs. Never got student of the month or anything. Never. Not once.
023Never student of the month. Never. Never. Straight days all eight years. She's never a problem. But when she tries sports and stuff out, she gets pushed aside and everything else because of because of family. They're not they're not in the click. What you want to say down there? Understand? They're they're not in it and they're out. It's not just our children. Yeah, I got you. I got you. It's everybody's children down there. Even if the parents are too scared to come up here and say anything, it's still their children. Understand? I'm standing up for theirs, not only mine. Amen, brother. And I don't mean to interrupt, but us doing this is going to cause our children to get picked on when they return to school because it's happened every time. Okay. Nona Fields. Yeah, I'm
024speaking on Chrome School as well. My grandkids go there. Um, and I have grandparents day. I go, you're not welcome. You're not allowed to walk your kid to the locker to their classroom. All the kids cry to go home. I've never seen nothing like it. Look, I'm 62 years old. I've been in a lot of schools. This is a prison. The school is like a prison. The children come home, they're upset, they're scared of the teachers, they're scared of of messing up on any kind of grades because they say, "You don't know what we're going through at school." And I'm speaking of a lot of my families kids that go there that I see they're having the same problems. So something needs to be done and it's the principal. She's the main one and she's
025allowing all this stuff to go on at the school. And something's got to be done. My daughter suffers from extreme anxiety from that school. Yes. My child is petrified. My son is starting I mean if y'all would just Okay, we're going to follow up with each of you directly. Okay, thank you. Promise. Robin Spalding. Do you need me to stand up? Sure. Okay. I don't know um because of the things that were said earlier if you can answer my question. Unfortunately, not. Okay. Well, let me just start by saying I'm here for the preK through 8 at Crime as well. Everything that these people so far have stated, I can tell you straight up, is a fact. I'm 60 years old. I put four kids through Wayne County schools. This is nothing new to me.
026I know all about how things run. when you go south of Wayne and I'm gonna go all the way back here to my grandson. And I have a grandson and a granddaughter both at the middle school chrome. But they went to Dunlow. When the principal that's at Dunlow started at Dunlow, the parents were no long grandparents, parents, you're no longer welcome there. And I don't care what they tell you. I used to walk into the school when my children were in school. I realize this is a different day and age, but if you want children to excel, it takes not just good schools, not just good teachers, but it takes parental involvement. Because if you don't start at home, you have nothing to work with when you take them to school. That school over there
027I worked at when I was cook. I'm here to tell you right now, it's a boot camp. Those children are really literally these people are telling you the truth. And when you walk in that school, you're not made to feel welcome. If anything happens, extracurricular speaking, sometimes the principal will be there. Sometimes someone else will be there. You don't know if it's going to get handled. We had a situation with my grandson last year. All that aside, these complaints are legit. I just want to say that. But I think that as far as the situation that's going on right now, I don't know who approves these air quote civilian coaches. I'm all about parent involvement. Don't get me wrong. I have a son who has a my granddaughter. He helps with her softball team. He's
028a straightup dude, okay? He's mine. But I'm here to tell you just because they come out of my deck, I will still call a spade a spade. Okay. If he had done or been accused of what that coach was accused of, he would be in the Western Regional Jail. I would not pull him out. I would not let any his wife or anybody else pull him out. I'm not a violent person, but we're speaking about children here, and he has a wife who works there. Now, let me tell you something. And I know I'm speaking to the majority of men here, but Missy, I think you'll agree with me. You don't live with a man and not know. You don't know about a man. You don't know what his preferences are. You don't know that
029there's something wrong. I don't buy it, guys. I do not buy it. I am requesting that she be formally investigated and put at leave until that is conducted. Absolutely. I'm also requesting her supervisor, which is the principal. I would like to know because it's been told to your parents. Yeah, we heard that she stood up and vouched for these people to coach. Now, I think that the people need to be aware. I think we need to know who is it that okay? Are there investigations? Are you going out into the public, into the communities, and saying, "Who are these people that we're letting coach our kids?" And then there's the issue of closed practices. Close practices. You can't even walk in a gym and check on your kid. I don't think so. People, there's something
030wrong when a parent when parents are excluded and said, "Hey, you're not welcome here." I don't I don't buy that. And I've got athletic children. In the gym, though, Robin, pardon me. Certain parents are allowed in the gym. If you're in the click, you're allowed in there. This is a school system and it's taxpayer money and there's no clicks. Mine won't be going back until an investigation's done. Okay, Pamela Jude. Pamela Jude. Jude. My husband could rot in jail. All right, you said your piece. I'm also here for crumb. Um, I want the I would like for the principal to be investigated and I would also like to back her on having the spouse at leave until she's formally investigated. Um, the school sends people home, the kids home without notifying anybody and they'll post
031it on the Facebook page when a lot of us are at work and we can't have our phones to check. Um, my child has been sent home with pump knots, cuts, bruises, and I've not been notified. My oldest daughter has been bullied so bad over the last couple of years that she was selfharming. And when I took her back to the school and told the principal and the guidance counselor about it, I was told that it wasn't bullying, it was just bad behavior. And there's a huge difference. and my child selfharmed and had to be put in a mental hospital for over a week and she's 11. And um what else was it? delete my post. We have a school Facebook page that is supposed to be information for the parents and we were commenting
032on there wanting to know what precautions were being taken for our kids safety. We were ignored. We were completely ignored and I have proof. She took the principal took down all of our post. Um she had reported our post on our own personal Facebooks to have them taken down and um I sent her a personal message asking if the spouse was going to be there cuz I don't feel safe with my children being around her until she's investigated and she I was completely ignored and well she actually deflected back to Mr. Alexander's comment on the news. Uh yeah, but she um this was after she said that to follow the news if we wanted an update. We're not giving any information. No, no. If your if your kid gets down there and falls and breaks
033his arm, it could be the end of the school day before you even know anything. It be like 9:00 in the morning. And if you're somebody like us who cares and comes and speaks out and have spoken to her in the past or to anyone in that office, you are pretty much black balled after that. And your child every single day they miss whether they just like our kids get black. Yeah. I would like to petition for a new principal. Amen. I will be taking both of that. Okay, we got we got to do one at a time. the teacher being her cousin, she wouldn't have I would have never been informed. 10 seconds. So, we're what we'll do is we will follow up with each of you individually regarding your concerns and if you
034have anything you want to add at that point and we'll start doing that tomorrow. Okay. So, we'll be in contact. Sounds great. Do you have our telephone numbers? Did you all list your numbers on the paper? No, we If you did not, please come up and list your numbers. Should our children further be counted absent over things they cannot control and we don't feel safe and we don't have answers yet? Yeah. If if they're not physically at school, they have to be they have to be counted. Yeah. As usual. And then we've been threatened with CVS and everything else because our children are not in school because we can't get them to a safety concern. It it right. It's not about what went on. It's the safety concern about what's going to be happen. We'll
035follow up tomorrow. Okay. The school's not normal. It's not a normal place. Does Is anybody else need to put their number on phone numbers on here? Just Yes. Yes. Just make sure like I was going to say earlier, if you walk down there when the kids are getting dropped off in the morning and it still goes on almost at this school year and at the end of the school year, you will still see more than half the students crying not to go in. It's pitiful. It's p it's 110 seconds and this is this is not go ahead you're f you're fine you can hear the teacher screaming at the children down the hallway not not only is my oldest one has been in class and I don't know if it's me personally I don't think
036teachers play this way but taking pencils and hitting me in the and stuff. Yeah. Um that's that's abuse. And this happens every day. Every day. This happens every day. Not just to mine, to everybody. And they they tell the kids that they've been there so long that they will never be fired no matter what they do. And that is okay. So obviously you have some things you want to add and when I when we call you can add that information as we go. Okay. Well, I'd like to thank you guys for listening to us. Well, we appreciate the information. And it's, you know, it's always open to anyone who wants to come and give give those concerns. So, you guys gave us our chance. Absolutely. My 11-year-old was pulled into a private room this year
037over being bullied and she was told that the the principal was going to call the law on her. Yeah. Because she stood up for herself. Yeah. So if you teach if you teach your kid not to take that for itself which is in the time of day like I was talking about earlier about parents have to do what they have to do. If the teachers is not and the principal is not going to do anything about the bullies you know who a bully is you know who ain't one. And if that kid is still doing it if it's going to fight back you going to sit there and let somebody hit you. You going to fight back. Right. Right. That's what I'm saying. Make sure that you air all those concerns, all this other issues
038when when we contact. Okay. Okay. Thank Thank you all. Thank you for coming. Thank you all. All right. All right. So, we will be in contact. Okay. Okay. Can I can I please point just one more thing out? It's a safety issue. Sure. Um my worry is that she did go and bail him out. So at that point in time she knew what he was charged with. He is out now. I promise you we'll we'll deal with it. Okayirect sending mine back because what if she may not condone it and they may be into it and he may come to the school. I understand. I get I understand. We'll let us let us do some investigation and then we'll Thank you so much. We'll go from there. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You all ain't
039probably aware, but uh she burnt all the information. Yeah. She told over the classroom, "Paker, teachers, have your rooms clean." Yeah. Tomorrow. Yes. When the cop showed up at her house, she was drawing all the information. Okay. Superintendent reports. Yep. Next up, Senate Bill 650. So, I mentioned to this a few I mentioned about this Senate bill a few meetings ago and it has passed the legislature. I don't know if the governor signed it yet or not. So, I don't know that it's 100% official, but I believe it it it's headed that direction. So, we have a meeting scheduled th we have a meeting scheduled Thursday with our elementary principles uh regarding uh planning for this for next year. So, if you turn to page two, you'll see the changes underlined that were made in
040um the code. So, this this was the original law that allowed for ECATs to be added to first grade, second grade, and then third grade. and third grade was to be added uh next year uh this coming school year. And so the legislature made a change and they are now allowing for full-time interventionists to be hired and assigned to up to two classrooms to satisfy the requirement of subsection A. And that's uh for an ECAT to be in every third grade classroom. And so, um, if I'm not mistaken, um, this allows for this to occur at certain grade levels. I think it's second and third grade. Our second grade ECATs are in place and they will remain in place for next year. So, what we're considering is what do we do at the third grade
041level? Do we do ECATs? Do we do interventionists? Do we do some combination of both? And so, we're going to be meeting with our U elementary principles um on Thursday of this week. and uh having discussion around the topic and start making plans for next school year. And if you'll see the second section that's underlined, it says the part-time interventionist may only be assigned to one classroom for the purposes of satisfying the requirements of subsection A of this section. So if you hire one interventionist, they can work with two classrooms. If you hire part-time interventionist, they can work with one classroom. So if you have a school that has three third grades, you might do one full-time and then one part-time. And so we have multiple schools that have one third grade. So what we'll
042be looking at is, you know, if we would go this direction is an itinerate position that would go from school to school. So we have to work through all that. But I just wanted to bring this to your attention. Go ahead and put it on your radar. Um I had mentioned when I brought this up was when we were creating positions for next school year. uh we did not list all of the ECATs and the reason that we didn't was we knew that this was a possibility. So what the interventionist the advantage of having an interventionist is opposed to an ECAD is the interventionist is an actual teacher. Interventionist is a certified teacher that can provide those services and um as opposed to an ECAT. some counties are having difficulty filling the ECAP positions or
043filling it with filling it with appropriately um appropriately qualified personnel. And so there was a there was a request for relief. And what's interesting about this, when this legislation was first passed, we had petitioned the state department um from Wayne County uh to allow the flexibility either or to to do this and um um because we had a bunch of interventionist in place at the time, right? And uh but it's a few years down the road now and and there's more flexibility being given with it. And if you remember when we talk about budgeting, what they look at is they look at the total number of third graders in the district and then a third grade classroom is allowed to have 25 students max in it. So they divide the total number of third graders
044that the district has. They divide that by 25 and then that's the number of ECATs that were provided funding for. But kids don't come in nice neat little packages. When when you have schools with one third grade class, if they have 15 kids in there, we end up having to fund some of the positions ourselves, right? So, with this particular bill, the money is not going to change. They're still going to fund based upon the ECAT formula. Um, if we do an interventionist, the fact that they're allowing them to work with two different classrooms, um, what that does is it, uh, it gives you the, uh, salary of two ECATs to be able to cover that teaching position. Gotcha. And so, uh, and I should point out that the original bill did allow for interventionists,
045but you had to hire an interventionist for every single classroom, right? and you were only getting funded for an ECAD position. So, the county was responsible for the additional funding if they did hire an interventionist. So, we're going to be talking through all those things and coming up with a plan for next year. I'll be bringing the positions to you to create once we uh finalize what that plan is. Is there among the interventionists that we'll let go that they want to come back or do you know? Um well, those folks are in other positions now. um they're in other full-time positions, but you know, I'm sure if there was an opportunity there that some of them will try to take advantage of of that if those jobs end up being posted. But again, we
046we've got to look and see, you know, what mixture is going to work and and uh which direction we want to go with it. Got my understanding this looks like beneficial. I I think it will be. Yeah. Yeah. I think helps with alleviating some of the rifts on the professionals. Um it will if if we post interventionist jobs, yes, it's going to immediately create additional positions for those people to move to. Okay. Great. But we we won't do all interventions, right? We that's to be determined. We we have to Yeah, we have to determine what that's going to look like. So, for example, if you have a uh if you have three classrooms, uh do do you want to do, you know, one ECAT and one interventionist? Um do you want to do a part-time
047interventionist? We have we have to determine what that looks like. So, that's what I was wondering because we could have the itinerate interventionist, right? Yeah. I mean, travel to two schools if Yeah. Without the decision being made yet, it could we could I was just thinking Yeah. We could come back to you and tell you we want all ECATs. We could come back to you and tell you we want all interventionist or we could come back and there there could be a mixture of the two. So I'm just wondering y I wonder you know with the difference in cost is what I was thinking. I suspect that they're going to be interested in adding interventionists at the third grade level. I suspect that that's the direction it will head. But again we have that meeting
048Thursday and we'll we'll start collecting feedback. Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Okay. And uh I talked to one of the other counties. We've been extremely fortunate. Our ECATs have done extremely well almost without exception. Um as as we visit the schools, we hear about how valuable that they've been and uh I know the the training that's been set up and the the way that the ECATs participate in that, they take their jobs seriously. We we've been fortunate. I've I've heard stories from other counties where uh the ECATs aren't nearly as effective as as what we've seen here. So, uh we appreciate our people that are working at at the kindergarten, first and second grade level. Obviously been very helpful. Yeah. All right. Anything else? Yeah, I will mention about the calendar. The um I'd mentioned at a
049previous meeting just Yeah. I'd mentioned at a previous meeting that we were going to have to extend the end of the school year by one more day. And by the way, when we had announced that before, we we had announced that if we missed any more days, we will have to extend it by one more day. But I I put we put the announcement out today um through our social media channels about, you know, the extension till June 9th. And believe me, I'm the last I think the kids are really cheering up. Oh, yeah. I'm the last person that wants to uh to ex extend the year. especially when you're in into June and extending it to a Monday, but we don't have a choice. We have to have 180 days in our instructional calendar.
050The county uses five NT days, which we apply for every year. And so those are days that do not have to be made up. In addition, we have bank time, which means that we have at least 30 additional minutes in each of our school schedule. And that allows us to um that allows us to not have to make up five additional days that are weather days. So um we have missed a total of 12 days. Five of those days were forgiven for NTI. Five of those were forgiven for bank time. And then the additional two days, those are the two days that we have to make up. We have to use our OS days to do that. So that's why we have the two-day extension to the end of the school year. Now those OS
051days on the calendar that we approved last year, those OS days last through that entire week of June 9th. So there's additional makeup days that are still there. So I know the question has come up about there's been some news coverage about counties receiving uh waivers. the counties that received waivers, they had to you had to use up all of the options available to you before you requested a waiver. And with us having the five NT days, the five backtime days, um the uh it would have been necessary for us to use up the OS days uh before uh we were considered uh for a waiver and we have not done that. um we've only used two of those days and so the counties that are receiving the waivers, they went beyond those OS days
052or they didn't have the bank time, that type of thing. So, um I know sometimes people think that we just didn't take the time to apply for the waiver or things like that, but the bottom line is our our calendar that we created still had flexibility in it for making up days that we were to use before we were eligible. Gotcha. That's all I have. Perfect. All right. Uh, moving on to our board directives. Uh, yeah, I do have a, uh, board directive. I'd like, um, frankly, I'd like Mr. Alexander to rep respond to something. Uh last week the April 16, 2025 Wayne County News had an article and in that article it uh referenced a written statement sent to the Wayne County News by Pamela Swope, director of Playmates. And in that article, uh,
053among other things, it said, quote, show swoke, excuse me, said that as of Friday, the board majority had not yet publicly explained why it voted to donate the building, referring to the West Morland building, to the Vincent West Morland Historical Society. Further quote, this is the definition of putting politics over people. Playmates had a plan, had the funding, and most important, had the kids in mind. It's incredibly disappointing to see their needs pushed aside. Local youth will lose access to a safe, supportive environment that has served as a second home for over a decade," unquote. Well, I was at that meeting. I'm getting older. My memor is not as good. That's not what I recall. I would like Mr. Alexander to respond. Yeah. So, the uh as far as the West Morland Teen Center is
054a joint uh is a joint venture between Wayne County Schools and uh Playmates and uh we have to apply for a grant uh through the state department of education. Playmates runs afterchool programs for Wayne County schools. The teen center is one of those programs. But uh we've started this conversation about the property down at West Morland and the fact that we can't keep a former building open for one program that operates approximately two hours a day. Yeah. Yeah. We we can't we can't put um our money that's spent on facilities into a facility for that just for just for one teen center. And that we have space available. Vincent Middle School specifically has a number of rooms that are empty there um that could house the teen center. And that's worst case scenario if you
055know somebody that takes all if the historical society if they have room for the teen center if that fits within the schedule that's a possibility all that's to be determined but we were clear uh with we were clear with um Mrs. Barker from the beginning that if the if we did move on from the property, the teen center would still have an opportunity to operate, we would offer an alternative site within within the district. And that discussion's been going on for 6 months or longer. So, it was disappointing seeing some of the reports that the program was going to be shut down. I think it was just misinformation. Thank you. Excellent. Any other comments? Okay. Any board reports? None heard. No unfinished business. Move on to our new business. Consent action items. The superintendent recommends
056approval of the following action items. Additional items received prior to the time of the meeting may be added. Discussion and or separate action of items may be requested by members of the board and or the superintendent. Items are subject to change. Any blanks will be filled prior to the meeting. In the event a nominee withdraws, we reserve the right to put the next candidate in the position. Number one, consider for approval the recommended personnel matters, pages 1 through 10. Make a motion to approve. Second. Let me make a few revisions. We do have Yeah, there's a revis. All it all the revision was was filling in the uh name that was blank when you originally received your agenda. But there's a couple there's a couple other things I want to adjust as well. So on
057page two, the third item down under employment is I'm sorry that's that's the wrong spot. Skip that one. Go to page three. It's the third item down on page three under request for leave of absence. Yeah. Uh Alexandria Mloud is being hired um into a um liaison position, post-secondary liaison position that's fun funded through Mount West and she was also listed on this agenda to be on FMLA through June 30th. That date should have been June the 15th. Okay. Because I was wondering about that. Well, usually when we get those requests, they'll usually extend them out to the end of the academic year just in case, god forbid, we would have to go into school past June 15th. Um, but they usually extend it out just in case there's a change in the end date.
058So, that's what happened here. But in her particular case, if she's going to assume that summer job, she needs to be off leave by June 15th. And that's actually is what is in her specific request. So, I want to change that date to June 15th. Okay. And then uh two more pages back, you'll see where Jared Colmes is, uh the name that's going into the blank for the 8-hour custodian at Spring Valley High School. That's effective is Jared. J A D. Okay. And the two hirings above that, Kevin Pac for Playmate summer camp bus operator and Timmy Thompson, Energy Express bus operator, Fort Gay. I'm going to I'm going to pull those tonight. Those two those two gentlemen are going to be in those positions. We're still uh there's still some um there's still some
059debate about which which should be in which position. So, we're we're still um going back and looking through records on summer seniority to determine who goes into which position. So, I I want to be 100% certain before you approve it. And uh those positions don't start till June. So, we've got more time. So, I'm going to pull those two for this evening. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Also want to mention on tonight's personnel matters, we have the pro probationary contracts for approval. So again, employees in their first three years of employment are on a probationary contract. And if if we determine not to approve one of those probationary contracts, um the way that that works is the person is simply not listed on the agenda. And then um tomorrow we have to send a letter to
060the person uh letting them know that they were not uh recommended for renewal on the probationary contract list and then once they receive that letter they have a right to a hearing. So it kind of works exactly the opposite from from our normal processes but that that's the way that it works in code. Uh so we did have a few uh probationary contracts that we're going to recommend not be renewed but again we do that through their absence on the list and we give them notification and then they have a right to request a hearing at that point. So what you have here is your uh probationary folks that are being recommended for renewal of contract on both the uh professional and service side under your secretaries on page eight. Is that is that correct
061spelling? Yes. Okay. Just double check. I was just checking on a spelling of the name. Oh, okay. It was an odd spelling, but I I wonder the same thing. Okay. Just double check. Okay. I just had one minor question. Sure. As usual with Kathy Nelson, this long-term leave of absence. Mhm. That's is just the long-term leave of absence is employees that have worked for 10 years for the board are eligible to are eligible to take a leave for up to a year basically without cause. That's what this is. Well, I knew that, but it's without pay, right? Correct. Okay. Because it didn't have on here because I knew what the long-term leave was, but it didn't say whether it was paid or unpaid. And I thought, well, if it's because I know about the 10ear
062policy, but I I didn't think I thought it should have unpaid. Yeah. A couple other things I'll mention is at the bottom of page one, the kinder college teachers at Buffalo Elementary, that's being funded through the uh afterchool program that we do with Playmates. So that the funding comes from that uh program. That's the bottom three positions that that Kinder College program is like and it's like a two or three day thing. So, it's it's a it's a very short thing, but is it like an introduction to kindergarten? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then in the middle of the page, there's a termination listed there. And this was um this was a um a riff letter that we got out after the rest. and that's why it didn't appear on your agenda before. This is for
063an extracurricular position. It's for the It's for the speech and debate position at Spring Valley High School. The reason that we're doing this is because we have had difficult times filling the speech and debate positions at Wayne High School and Tulsa High School. So, we're actually exploring if we can do a countywide program for speech and debate. And so, um our intentions are is to come back and possibly post a countywide position. And so that's why we're eliminating the individual school position. Okay. So I need a motion for the revised personel. Motion by Randy. Second. Second. Second by Johnita. Sorry Dennis. She got you. Any other questions or concerns on our personnel matters? None heard. All in favor? I any opposed? Motion carries five to zero. Number two, consider for approval of the purchase requisition
064order in quotes in excess of $5,000 on pages 11 through 17. Motion motion approve. Motion by Jonita. Second, Dennis. I'll second. Questions, concerns? 11 through 17. So the fence at CK that's through that grant grant that we obtained from the department of education through the safe schools grant. So great and then anything you see with the account number 61 on it that is through uh Jeb the 61 account is for the CTE funds and other special projects special projects. So the the turnkey package for license is that for a specific program I'm assuming my question too missing. Yeah. Yeah. That's a uh that's a program that prepares students for the knockai that they take at the end of the year. Got and it's used for a variety of programs including therapeutic services, the law and
065public safety. Um is that like the soft skills and it well no it's it's different it's academic skills that are specifically tied to their to their program. Okay. I I think Greg said that the welding program uses it as well that it prepares them for the knock. Okay. So it's Nocttai. I say Nocttai. I've heard people say Noctti. I don't know. Nocttai. Correct. That's what we'll call it. I like Nocttai. Yeah. The 25 student whatever that been looks like it's been scratched out or whatever. What? Explain that to me. What does the It's 25 student licenses. So at least 25 student licenses and six teachers and it's $15,450. Well, no. I I take that back. It's It's 25 students per course. I think there's 300 student licenses. Okay. Okay. Six teachers. I see that. 300.
066Yes. Student. We need to quit abbreviating this stuff so we can actually know what we're talking about. That's why there was some scratching on there. All right. Yeah. And then the uh sax and phonics uh purchase that you see on there that is through title funds individual school title funds. Yeah, I think we've we've heard every school every elementary school loves that program. So that's always a and then then we have Carnegie on onsite for professional development. Yeah. Excellent. And that's through title funds as well. through the title title professional development. Gotcha. All right. Any other questions or concerns on those um purchase orders or quotes? None. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to zero. New business, separate action items. Number one, consider for approval the garbage contract with Republic Services at
067an annual cost of $86,754 beginning July 1st, 2025 through June 30th, 2026. Motion. Motion by Randy second or anybody? Uh Nate John. Okay. Yeah. Whoever. Yeah. Questions or concerns? Well, the public does buy garbage and they're not really reliable and so I have a few questions. Is there anybody else or did we take bids on this? Yeah. Yes. Now, this is a renewal, but yes, we we have to advertise it. We have to take bids on it. And uh they're big and they do what they want. It's my experience. For the last eight years, they've been the uh they've been the cheapest uh cheapest provider. When was the last time it was too? It's been within the last three years. We'll we'll typically renew up to three before we do it again. So, it's within
068that three-year period. Mr. Alexander, I think all those schools have been satisfied and they're my garbage people and they do a wonderful job for me, too. Okay. That's because they know you'll complain. They they get our garbage as well most of the time. Yeah, there's a there's a state law on bid. I'm not sure if it's two years. Is it two years? Anything over 10,000 has to be Yeah, I believe it's three years. Yeah, I was the reason I say that is I I posed that question earlier and with state department and I was told two years anything over $10,000. So the state the state finance office always tells us three years and it's just a recommendation. There's no requirement. Uh there's no is that am I speaking correctly about that? I believe you are.
069I don't think it's actually written anywhere. Their recommendation is is three years and they've consistently told us that. Um and I actually was there some legislation that they were trying to do where they were going to open that up and take it even further than three years. I'm not sure. Yeah. And I don't anytime you guys have a concern with any of these that you know we're renewing. I don't care to to we don't care to go through the process of rebidding those. Um typical experience is that when we rebid the cost goes up. That's typical. So if we can get them at the same we usually stick with that. Now it's it's not 100% true but go ahead. And I think if they tell us three years we can do three years until we're
070told different. Well, we have the option of making it less than that. But you're not sure how long ago was we sent it to bid. It's been within that three-year period. And do we did we have other biders the last time? Yes. I think I remember it's been at least two years. Yeah. Um yeah, I think this is probably this is probably the last renewal we have on it before we have to take it back out for advertising. But I think one that on it went out of business, too. It did. That was not this time, but a couple of times before, right? Because they went up by our house and then before long they were gone. Yeah. Yeah. So I I mean I don't have a problem with taking it back out if if
071you guys would prefer to take it back out, but I'm just not sure if we're going to get it back. It's been out It's been out at least twice since I've been here and they've been the I was going to say money. I don't mind. I'm just get irritated by them. Well, I will tell you my experience with Republic is I I've been with them for three years and every year I'm playing about $10 more now than I was three years ago when I started with them. So, if they're going to increase on individuals, I'm sure that this number would change as well. So, well, that's kind of the scary thing about the economy where it seems like everything's going up. So, we could take a chance and, you know, rebid it. But that was
072my thing when I, you know, I with the mowing services and we come in well under the other bid. 5,000 cheaper than last time. And 5,000 to me is quite a bit of money. I mean, to some people it's not, but when you can save when you can save $5,000 and I just personally feel like if they want to continue with the service, they'll bid what they're bidding. And if they're, you know, possibly or have you dealt with it may be higher. So big utilities and there may be somebody else that's interested in it, but it's whatever the majority. I mean, I'm not my experience with those big utilities because I used to have a business will be flagged for like all the the power company, water company, gas companies, and everybody. They make you
073wait a 100 days before they ever pay you. They make you bid on it. And uh then they charge everybody more. Take what the electric company's doing right now. Public service commission. They're going to raise all of our rates, aren't they? Our company. I just, you know, if it's going to save money, I'm just right. I'm not real happy with it either. Just my opinion. But I mean, we're already locked into this 86,000. We know that's what we got to pay. It's already in our budget. It's been in our budget for a couple of years now. So, I mean, you think that this is the last year of this that being the case, I'm inclined to stay with it, but this be on the rad next year. That's kind of where I'm coming. I would
074agree with that. Well, let's take a vote and we'll see where where we land. So all in favor of continuing continuing the garbage contract with Republic Services at 86,754. I I I I Any opposed? Mark, are you in? I'm sorry. In out. Present. Are you abstaining? Present. I just need to know abstension. No. Yeah, I can vote present. Okay, that's not helping me, but okay. We'll go four and one present. That would be one present. Um, that's an abstension, right? Uh, so motion carries four to zero or four to one, I'm sorry. Okay. All right. Moving on to consider for approval out ofstate field trip request pages 18 through 21. Spring Valley High School aviation maintenance students to travel to Dayton, Ohio, April 25th and that's a CTE funded. I would like to go on
075that trip. Yeah. Right. Have you guys ever been to Dayton? Is that part of like the Air Force Museum? Oh, I love that place. That's excellent. Guys have gone quite a few times. It is awesome. Right. I really think a board member should go. could you could chaperone. Uh, Spring Valley High School special needs program to travel to Columbus Zoo on May 23rd. Wayne Elementary kindergarten also to Columbus Zoo on May 16th. And Wayne Elementary fifth grade to Kings Island on May 30th. So Columbus Zoo is also great. And I'm too old to go to Kings Island. Me too. So I need a motion. So move. Motion by Mark. Second. Jonita. Jonita, was that you? Yes, that was me. Okay. Any questions or concerns on our field trips? Unheard. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion
076carries. Five to zero. Number three, consider for approval out of state travel request for employees to travel to Dallas, Texas for get your teach on June 29th through July 2nd. That's title one funded. That's title one school funds. Yes. Yes. Employee also to travel to Naples, Florida for Carnegie Learning Leadership Conference July 20th to the 24th. Also a title one funded. And uh do I have a motion for these? Make a motion. Sorry, Dennis. You can have a second. Motion by Jonita. Second, Dennis. Yeah. Any questions or concerns on the employee travel? All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to zero. And number four, consider for approval of the Wayne County Board of Education to have their annual ex a audit performed by the certified public accountant approved by the chief inspector to
077perform the examinations. Motion by Randy. Second. Second by Mark. Mark. Any questions or concerns on our audit? All right. None heard. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Five to zero. Potential items for a future agenda. Speaking of audits, um at your next regular meeting, we will have um the audit for last fiscal year on the agenda. So, Johnita, I know um you normally attend the meeting with the auditor uh when he presents out and then we turn around and present that to the board. So, we'll schedule that I think sometime next week before the next regular meeting to go over the audit uh from last fiscal year. Okay. U on some of that I guess K12 emails we get. Did we get one where the somebody remind us about our hours? Hours. Yeah.
078Yeah. We should You should be fine with your hours. Yeah, I've been Yeah, I've got a lot, but I don't mind going. It's a change, you know, and you learn something every time. It's usually really good information. Even Even the time that I had to talk to uh what's his name? Hoppy. We still on future agenda items? Yes. Okay. I would like for future agenda items. I would like to u for the snow removal contracts to be worked on while the sun's shining. So this summer I would like for that to be looked into on okay possible ways that we could um do that for next year. And in addition to the snow removal, we're also working on print printing services. Um Mark graciously agreed to continue printing for us this year, but um we're
079going to we're going to price out and see what uh some of the providers in the area can provide. I'm also going to talk to some other school systems that have personnel employed full-time in the printing office um to see if we can do some kind of shared agreement. So, we'll we'll see how that works out as far as cost goes and and go with the best option there. Okay. Is that something your Mountain State group can share? You got you got to have the equipment and uh u you got to have the equipment. But that that is an interesting point. If we have the equipment and could use it, we'd have to find somebody that knew and then maybe get some other counties to join in and the cost pay us to do it
080for. Yeah, we can bring that up tomorrow. Okay. Mark do that at home just as a service just as you know any spare time. No pro have a problem with that John either but I volunteered doing that for over a year and uh my finances are a little different than they were. I know [Music] that he he did graciously offer to train somebody if you're interested John. Oh, Dennis, there was no conflict because I did it for no charge. So, there was no there's no conflict. Okay, Mark, you and I volunteer together. I don't care to train somebody, but Okay, I'll make a motion to Are we done? Yep. Randy. Motion by Jonita. Second. I'll do it, Dennis. All right. All in favor? I just wanted to say Jody has dinner waiting on me and
081it's been hard to pay attention. Okay, you're excused. I think I think that sedative or whatever she had on that eye surgery might be Did they give you something to 712 that I got? She's gone. Right. Yes, ma'am. Hey, do we have that then on Thursday evening? Yes. The teacher of the year and service person of the year is Thursday evening at um six o'clock here at the church. United Methodist. Okay. Suit and tie. Yeah. What time? I want to see and Missy in the suit. Thank you for those that joined us online. Okay. Did you say six o'clock? Yep. Six squad.