ACSD#1 Board of Education Business Meeting - May 13, 2026

001just kidding. Hey, I actually kind of forgot that I was uh doing this part. So uh [laughter] madame chair trustees before you are the documents for uh the 2627 uh preliminary budget as well as the uh salary schedules for everyone. How much detail would you like me to go into the preliminary budget since we discussed it last week? Um let's sorry I got a little track. Let's start with a motion. Um and then we can have further question and discussion. So under recommended action is a motion. >> Madam chair, I move that the board approve the 2627 preliminary budget including the proposed salary schedules and associated salary schedule increases incorporated within the preliminary budget amounts. >> Second. Okay. Questions? Thank you, Madam Chair. As you reported to us last week, there were sometimes daily changes

002in the budget. So, I'd like to hear what has happened in the last week since you spoke to us. >> Oh boy. Well, in all actuality, overall, there has not been many changes in in in the information that I provided uh last week with regards to still figuring out the silo and and health insurance and and trying to navigate those different pots of funds. Um we have not they have not come back with uh any further guidance. um their their health insurance FAQ right now pretty much eliminates everyone. So that's interesting. Uh they they said ours in their FAQ document they used uh EGI's FAQ document and that doesn't align with uh schools at all. So the hour requirements that they put on there actually doesn't allow any of us to seek any insurance uh

003reimbursement under those requirements. I do expect a change from that whenever they uh get clarification from their lawyer on what exactly those hours should be. The problem with is when using the state's document your your state people usually aren't 9 10 and 11mon people. They're 12 month. So an an 80our week or 120 hour or an 80 hour month or 120 hour month for them means something very differently when compared to our staff who um many aren't an 8 hour day or um you know 12 months out of the year but there's not been a lot of uh they haven't fixed that yet. they are looking into uh I don't know if this means that they're they're asking the same attorney again or asking it differently but they are looking into uh the last guidance

004that they provided that interest earned in all funds uh 50% goes back to the state. Um you know I talked about how that was I I I don't feel that that's very constitutional or legal at all. Um, so they're looking further into that, but that's about it for updates. >> Really quick, Madam Chair, before I forget on that, with the insurance side, something have to remember with with especially our certified staff is that they're salaried, not hourly. So, the hourly requirement works really cleanly with what they're doing with classified employees who are hourly. But what they don't remember is just because a contract says something doesn't mean that's the hours that actually happen. And and I'll just say it, teachers work more than the hours that are on there. They're just not on that contract

005type of a thing with the hours. In fact, I would contend it's probably twice as much even with the summer. And so we were bothered by that. I I sent my feelings to the state superintendent about it. just just to add that. I just think that's important. >> Jesse Sornson and Trusty Martin. >> After reading everything that's come our way, including the letter from the board of directors for the Wyoming High School Activities Association, it sounds like the legislature would like an opportunity to fix what they've brought. Any kind of timeline? How long are we supposed to wait for answers? That's funny. [laughter] Um, you know, in order for them to make any changes, they're going to have to hold a special session. They can't just decide at the recalibration meeting in June that somebody

006got it wrong. And so, they're going to vote to change it. So that means somebody is going to have to decide here real soon that they are actually going to have a special session and then notice it and and then however and they only have so many days allowed for that as as well. Um and so I I I honestly couldn't tell you. Um I I think somebody threw June out there. I I don't know that that's really very realistic. Um yeah. So you're you're confirming. Yeah. No, it it I don't think it's realistic. I I don't think anybody else really thinks that June is possible. So, I don't know if they'll just if they'll throw it in September or the fall, winter sometime if they'll try and get it done before session or if

007they'll just leave it um for the regular session. I sorry that was a long winded answer for I don't know. Tracy Martin >> along the lines um you know since we met last the high school athletic association put out a press release and the cuts um around the state to activities and athletics have become a political lightning rod upsetting many people and I was just kind of wondering if you could and I apologize if you went over this last week but kind of characterize what we're looking at um in terms of impacts from the recalibration to our funding for athletics and activities. >> Sure. So, currently um in the budget to model document that I provided last week, it's not in the preliminary budget. Um but in in that you can see that activities currently

008is running at a deficit of a million85 I believe it was. And so that that is the current deficit that we're we're dealing with in that category. There was other areas as well, but um we're dealing with a pretty big deficit. >> And is that is there any way to I mean that's a big number for sure. Is there any way to characterize like what those real world impacts might look like or are we still trying to sus all that out? >> Um so Mr. Kalper and I met uh with athletic directors and principles on Monday and and we kind of just talked about really what's going on, what's happening, what we're hearing from other districts and a plan that we might want to uh that because we're going to have to have these discussions

009throughout the year. We will hope that they fix some things. We will hope that uh what WHSA has put out really gains traction and they fix it and and that'll just be the end of it. But we still have to be prepared and we probably had better be prepared uh for any action that we're going to take by January so we can let the public know what that's going to look like. Really, the sky is is the limit. I I could throw a ton of things out there, but then I believe that people would think that that's what we're we're going to do and and and that's set in stone and and nothing is the case there. There will once again be no stone left unturned. We're going to do deep dives into everything. Look

010at lots of different possibilities um of how you achieve, you know, part of that deficit. How do you maybe you only have to fix part of it, maybe you have to fix all of it. What does that look like? And then um I I imagine in January we'll come to the board with the options that um that team as well as the finance committee has has worked on through that. Um we we'll bring our recommendations. Doesn't mean we have to take action on them but we will bring our our options not recommendations our options that you will all have to decide on what uh barring any no um any funding changes what you'll have to pick from. And I would just add our plan right now is to is to continue what we've been doing

011because we don't think it's a very smart idea based upon the timing to make those kind of decisions and that gives us the time to really look and then see what's happening around the state as well in that regard. uh we're concerned about it because we obviously support activities because they help students succeed and it's a part of learning that's not in the classroom. There is learning and so it really bothers me that they did not include that in their funding. >> Any other comments or questions? Jesse Marshall. >> Thank you. [clears throat] Mrs. screen on the um administrative salary. Are all central office administrators included there? >> Yes. >> And I didn't compare this to the current schedule, but can you just give us an idea? Is that like about the same increase as

012the teacher salary or just give us an idea what the average increase is for those central office administrators? Madam Chair, the increase on the administrative salary schedule is five is it's 7,500 2500 that was received this year. 5,000 that was um uh that will be received next year. Is that what you're talking about? >> So would you repeat that? The increase from the current schedule. >> Uh the the the increase from the current schedule is $7,500. So each cell in that salary schedule increased by 75 $7,500. >> Any further questions? >> Okay, [laughter] we we have a um motion that's been moved and seconded. So there's no further discussion and we'll call for a vote. Um all those in favor, please say I. I. opposed. Motion passes. Next up, monthly financial reports. Right, Madam Chair,

013trustees, uh the financials uh before you, the expended column is true cash in cash out on the revenue and expense side. Uh the encumbered column are POS, orders that have been placed, but the check has not been um written yet. We are on track to uh spend our funding by the end of the year as of now as projected. I will be coming to you with an amendment in June because I believe there's some amendments that we want to take care of before June 30th just to be safe. >> May I please have a motion? Madame Chair, I move that we approve the monthly financial reports as presented and to consider payment of bills including late pays and pre-authorization of payroll, insurance, utilities, officials, and automatic payments. >> Second, >> did you have something you

014wanted to add? >> I do. Sorry, I I have this paper here, but thank God she's in the back there. Um, next week, uh, tomorrow, sorry, I was going to read the whole thing. It says, "Tristan, sorry to bother you. Next week during your financial report, could you please add the following statement? ACSD1 will host its spring consolidated grant meeting tomorrow on Thursday, May 14th, 2026 from 3:30 to 5:00 p.m. at the Special Services Building. All ACSD1 stakeholders are invited to attend. If the stakeholders would like more information, please reach out to Kobily at km oleacd1.org. Thank you very much. Okay. Any other question or discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. Thank you. Next up, new business. Aubrey one-year contract. Dr. Goldheart. >> Yes, we've talked

015about this previously. I've changed this to a one-year contract just so that we feel not like we're bound to anything past that. I I've sent you the references that you requested. Um I haven't heard from any of you what what you found out with those. They also met with Seanheim, Shelley Hamill, and Steve Simon in regards to that collaboration. I'm still recommending that we approve and that we see how it works for a year and if it's good, we'll continue on after. >> Thank you. May I please have a motion? Madame Chair, I move that the board approve a one-year contract with Aubrey. Is there a second? Nobody's going to second it. So, we can have discussion. >> Second. >> Thank you. >> Second. >> Discussion. Jesse Marshall. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I did

016uh reach out to several of the contacts. I made six phone calls and I only was able to speak to one person from West Virginia. Um she said that they have been with Aubrey for a year and a half and they have mostly been working on the data um merging of the data. They are just about to roll out their parent engagement opportunities after a year and a half. It's a pretty intensive process to get it all um uploaded. Um she talked about building the dashboards that they were accommodating about um the custom dashboards. She talked about the need for um data centralization. She talked about the need for um getting consistent um codings for various things across schools. You know, I might one of the things she example she gave, I might code an

017absence one way and uh Trusty Martin might code it another way. Same for student disciplines. Getting all those um consistent across the district. Um she said they do have a weekly phone call with Aubrey um to continue the project. Um we talked a little bit about um data security concerns with uh that much sensitive data being shared with somebody outside of the district. Um, yeah, she talked a long time and I wasn't able to connect with any of the other people that I contacted. >> Thank you. Other questions or comments? >> Yeah, >> thank you. Um, thank you Trusty Marshall for sharing that information and and following through on that. I guess I continue to have concerns about um just about why we went casting about kind of what we're what we're missing. Is this

018an answer to a gap in our data and and being able to serve students and families and educators in that way? or is this like kind of something that seems good and looks good but it e any switch of a platform is a big deal. I myself am really struggling with parent square um and that's just one app. Um, so I just want to be real about like, you know, something might look like it provides, oh, this is, you know, the next frontier of good data collection and integration, but it's always a big lift to change something. Um, and I guess for me, I'm not I'm not hearing from our staff and our administrators that this is something that's going to like really meet a need. So typically the way I like to see the

019district do business is that we get together the people who need the thing whether it's was our leave policy and workshopping that with our stakeholders in the district or um you know I actually know our counselors just got together and we're working on choosing a new platform choosing a way to to have a way to track what's going on for students and to have a better look ahead at what credits they need. So, I'm wondering if that feels redundant. Um, and I guess the summary of what I'm feeling is that I I don't feel like I've seen a really thorough process of people from around the district in the cabinet and the building leadership and parents getting to workshop a few different ideas, a few different platforms and say, "Oh, this is the one that's

020going to meet the need." We stumbled upon this need. Like when I get cataloges in the mail, I actually sort of get annoyed. I don't want to be told all the nice pants that are out there. I want to go for my pants in the closet and say, "Oh, these pants have a hole. I need a new pair of pants." Rather than just shopping around for all the nice products and nice looking things out there and then feeling like, "Oh, maybe maybe this thing is better than what I have." Uh, and it this feels a little bit like that to me. I just haven't heard from all the relevant parties that that this fits a need we have. Um and change is hard. So I'm reticent to just do change for change. >> Uh I

021can address that. Uh Trustee uh Stanton, it's really not a platform. It's just taking the data we already have and centralizing it because right now you have to go through all of the different places to find it, copy it, and then put it where you need it. And this allows us to just get it and have it in one place. Uh its main use to start out with was central office space because we want to be transparent with our public. How are our students doing? How are we doing as a district in many categories? And not just with vision 2030 but also with what I've shared with you earlier uh the um oh my heavens my mind's gone blank our graduate the indicators of K through2 indicators of different things that we don't usually measure

022like every month how's our absenteeism both students and teachers how are we doing in our formative assessments so it's a a more of a formative way of continuing to look and see how are we doing and that it's very open to everybody to see. Uh I want us to be open with our data and if the board chooses not to get this I'm still planning on doing it but there'll be a lot of people in the offices of the district who will have to do all that by hand and so that would be the big difference. Uh but whatever you guys want we'll move forward with it. >> Trusty Gilski. >> Thank you chair. Um yeah, just to kind of follow up on what Trusty Marshall said. I also did make a few phone calls.

023Um there was only one place that picked up. My notes are in Laramie where I would tell you what district it was, but I do remember them having some very positive things to say about the platform and the way that it kind of just helped synchronize most of their data and information, which is kind of why I'm also in support of it is just that element of making students and teachers and educators and staff's lives a little bit easier by putting everything in one place. because I think we kind of heard, you know, last month and I think just in general from students that it's just very difficult to manage all of those apps and platforms. And so being able to log on to just one place that has everything I think could be a

024lot easier. And I also think a gap that it helps bridge that I am just now remembering from the aubbery presentation is one that like public element where the public can see what the district is doing for students and teachers but also helping you know for example teachers make sure that nothing is slipping through the cracks. So, if there's like an A+ student and they're getting really good grades, maybe nobody notices until it's all up in one platform that like that student has missed several days of school and certain classes on and off or something like that where it can just help certain students not fall through the cracks. And I think that could be a really important, you know, benefit that this adds to the district is just making sure that every student gets

025seen in a way that's accessible and easy and doesn't require teachers to stretch themselves than trying to find out all of that information all of the time. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you, Tristy Swornson. Did you have something? >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I having I'm finally in a area where I have used what we had available to us before. And I will tell you that if you wanted attendance, you had to grab it from way over here. If you wanted discipline, you had to grab it from way over here. If you wanted test scores, you had to grab it from yet another place. And depending how many test scores you wanted, they each came from different spots. The problem with that is that the disagregation of all that information was totally dependent upon the

026interest and the expertise of the building level principle. We used Excel and we used word to put all this together. Neither one of them are made for that and it was very difficult. So, while I have concerns about confidentiality and handing over as much of this, I do like the idea of having one year to see how it works to really pick the brain of technology as they add this to the people's computers who need access to it and to visit with administration to find out if it helped them at all in their disagregation. Because believe it or not, you will form your own opinion and then you start disagregating by that because it all comes from different places. And once one set of information tells you something, you start looking for that answer in

027other areas instead of looking at it cleanly and just letting the data speak for itself. It's really difficult. So I I'm I'm in support of having a single platform as it were to help in the um disagregation of all this data that we have. >> Trusty Martin. >> Thanks. I just have some questions. Um and I totally hear what Trusty Sorenson is saying, what Trusty Gomelski is saying about just making life easier. We have all these data sets and we want to disagregate them. I'm curious how We measure the impact of that and we measure the success of this tool. If we're going to invest in this money in it, we can say ah you know we we disagregated our data and therefore well I think first it would be you'd have to figure out

028a way for our public to see what their feelings are to have all that information that they've not had before. uh we'd want to survey our teachers, our administrators, the people here in central office and I would want their their candid feedback on is this working or not. Uh I'm sure we could come up with other ways to assess that but I'm absolutely in favor of anything we buy we assess and see if it's working or not or if we're getting what we think we should get out of it because if it's not then I don't want it. um hearing Trustee Marshall's notes from the West Virginia call about how a year and a half into the program, they're still kind of getting it up and running. It makes me think that maybe that three-year

029contract made sense because you would actually need three years to know something like that, right? And so I'm wondering whether like if we do the the the one-year contracts, it seems like people had some heartburn over three years. Are we actually doing ourselves any favors? Yeah. I mean, what can what can we know after a year, I guess? Well, we'd only because I wanted to do it in three phases and so we'd only do some part things the first year just because of the lift and we would just have to base it on that one year of what we were able to do. uh because I I just think people would feel more comfortable not feeling like they are bound to something past that. >> And and just finally, you know, I'm heartened by the

030comment that we're we're going to figure out this disagregation problem anyway, you know, one way or the other. Aubre seems like it has some disadvantages. The price tag is one of them. Um data confidentiality, that's a real risk. That's another one. I'm wondering if we were going to do it by ourselves. I mean, what are some kind of advantages and disadvantages to going that route? >> Well, it would be time. We would have to have uh employees at the district level gather that all the time because it's not just a one-time deal. And then we need to put it in a visual so it makes sense to the reader. Uh just giving a spreadsheet is not going to tell the story. It needs to be done in a way that is easy to understand and

031it would just be continually going through all the different places, gathering it, disagregating it, putting it in a format that's understandable and then getting it out. >> I guess I'm wondering is there a way for the district to make a tool that does that? And I and I don't know if this is a question for the the tech people or not or or >> if Sean can in invent an app that'll do that. I'd be interested to hear about it. Hi. >> Madam Chair, trustes. Um, we we actually have PowerBI and we have a an uh Power School runs off of an Oracle database. Um, I have a background in database design and research science. Um, and so it is possible for the technology department to build something like this. Um, I I have some

032dashboards that we've built already. Um, I have one that I built that took me three hours. So, if we have six months to a year to build something, it's possible we could build something. >> Would it be ready for fall so we can start this next year being open with our public about how we're doing and our goals? >> Well, like the school district um that um we've spoken to already that has a dashboard that took and they're just now rolling out the parent portion in a year and a half. I would imagine it probably would take us a year or more to get data refined e either through Aubry or through our own dashboard to prep that information to make sure it was available for the public to view. Um we could make a

033dashboard uh in the technology department um in probably a couple of months that the staff could use. Um we would have to go through some tweaks and some refinements of the data. The the other issue that we have on on the data side is uh exactly what has been mentioned before and that we do have some data entry inconsistencies that we have been working through what we call project unicorn. Um we are working through getting the data across all of the data sources from the entire district and um putting data dictionaries together so that we have a uniform interoperability with all of the data across the district. That's something we've been working on for about six months. um we are probably maybe 25% through the way of that project. um we have a significant way

034to go but when we correct that data at the source that benefits any dashboard that we use not just Aubrey >> thank you trusty trusty goar had something are you trusty goar then trusty >> madam chair thank you uh trusty Martin asked my two questions so thank you >> thank you madam chair um I did further investigation and I appreciate trustee um Marshall going into and also trust Gumolski going into the um uh the resources and the referrals that were available to us and contacting schools. So I I really appreciate that research. It takes a lot of time and effort to do that. Um while that research was conducted, I on the other hand looked into um the security and authorization and the structural security certifications of Aubrey. And um what the research I found

035is that while Aubrey does comply um to the regulatory compliance of local governance um they are not um they don't hold a standalone corporate security certification. Um, and that's what alerted me and that's what concerned me because Aubrey is in fact a K12 data program and it um is really great at collecting uh behavioral tracking within schools, mental health data, uh crisis referrals, um academic performance and hearing Upon uh looking at my research, um it does not comply to the security structural certifications such as SOCK 2 type 2 or the ISO um 2700 or um any any other federal ramp high authorizations what they call um for C for national certifications. So this concerns me very much um that these this is student privacy uh this is uh parental privacy this is um also public

036privacy issues that we're dealing with. So um the other side of this thinking creatively was we we have certainly an an academic hub right in our own backyard that is full of in intelligence intellencia and computer science and of course I think um you referred to as um that a computer scientist could design um um a program that could collect this information. Um, and I'm wondering if part a partnership with the University of Wyoming, the School of Computing would benefit us in this case. um given that we are looking at a year um and I'm not so sure that Aubrey will have um the data you need for the the fall beginning in the fall of August. So, I think that time to thoroughly consider what we're getting into and what we're purchasing is is

037very um I call for a very cautious and conservative approach. >> Thank you. Any other questions or comments? >> Did you have one? >> Um I agree with Trusty Stanton. I have not heard an uprising from our uh teachers, our education community here that we need more data. I've not heard that from teachers. My concern is just putting it on the website doesn't ensure transparency. A lot of the data that we're talking about is there. We have power school data. We have uh Wyoming Department of Education data. If somebody is really looking for a specific set of data, it's there and they can find it. I have a concern about spending money that's not a need at this time after we've heard um from Miss Green talk about, you know, budget uncertainties and so many

038unknowns at this time. Um I do have concerns about this this security as well. Madam Chair, just really quickly, um, I just want to say I would not want the University of Wyoming taking our data. I think that would be even more dangerous actually than Aubrey because I don't want it to have that secondhand. And I would just tell the board, I think we've I don't think we need an uprising to make a good decision on getting information. And getting all that stuff out school isn't easy. Going to the state website is clunky. They make it almost they hide and you have to go through multiple steps to get anything. But I would just say uh at this point in time, you know, make a vote and let's move forward. >> Interesting. I'll pipe in

039just because I haven't yet. Um to me, the dollar amount for this feels so low. like I think it is so low now that it's a one-year contract that we actually don't even need to vote on it as a board. Dr. Goldhart could have just done this. Um but since we had already talked about it as a three-year contract, which would have put it over the ceiling, he did bring it back to the board. Um you know, out of respect and courtesy, which I appreciate because there's clearly thoughts. I I'm really in support for um I'm in support of this. Uh from what we've heard so far, it feels like a no-brainer. Um, it can help with all of the mandatory reporting that we already have to do and we're pulling from all these different

040those are labor hours. Um, and the sure, you know, an an initial upfront uh, effort. Um, but what it can save us down the road, I think it's it's a no-brainer for me. So, that's where I'm standing. >> Thank you. I we've talked about this for like three meetings and I think my opinion's changed every time. I like the idea I like the idea of being proactive. My concern is honestly not the dollar amount, it's the workload that this might bring on our folks. And so I would just ask that if we go through with this that we be real honest about the work it's causing, if it's effective, if we like it, and get feedback from the folks that are charged with doing the work to make this happen is is really my only

041concern. Any further comments? And then we're going to do a roll call vote because I don't think we're even close to unanimous on this. Yeah, I think I mean also a little flip-floppy and and and it seems like going going we're we're going to try to solve this problem one way or another. Do we go down the aubrey road and see how it is in a year? Do we go down the DIY road and see how we're doing in a year? I mean, I I think we could go either one of those. and um and and just take it like a trusty Aragon's had a conservative approach to it. Um that's all >> trusty. >> I think what whatever we do um as a way of doing business in a year when we evaluate either

042whatever Mr. time has been able to create or however how this program is working when it's presented. I want to hear more from the users. I want to hear more from the staff that it has impacted. I want I want to see a lot of our processes be done that way through, you know, when we pick curriculum, all the math staff come together and they look at the curriculum and they break into groups and they make lists of the pros and cons and then they make decisions. The people who are closest to the programs should have their hands on the choosing. So whatever we choose tonight when we get our update in a year, I'd like to hear directly from the people who are impacted by needing to access the data, needing to enter the

043data, needing to synthesize the data, aggregate, disagregate, all of those things. >> Trusty Ger, just one second. Trusty Gamski, did you still have your hand up or was that previous? I do have my hand up, but somebody else can go. Who has >> Okay, let's go. Tresy, go sir. Okay, Trusty Dowski and then go, sir. >> Wait, me first. >> Yes, you first. Thank you, chair. Um, yeah, I think for me at least, this one's kind of a no-brainer, especially as just a one-year contract, just to try it out and see how things go. I think that is probably the most conservative approach considering like the status quo is kind of already what it looks like without a system like this. I think, you know, thinking back as a student in that, you know, in

044our district, I remember how like painstaking it was to try to find different graduation requirements and things from across like like I remember searching through like PDFs of the like Wyoming state education department and scrolling and then trying to like cross reference classes together and just having one place that says like here's how on track you are to graduate, I think could be really helpful. especially for a lot of students who you know that you know their academic progress may not be the top of mind for them but making that system easier for them and more accessible I think for them and their parents I think should be a priority for all of us. Um, I will just say I think that like for the public element, I think it could be really helpful for

045a district to just be able to showcase our accomplishments and how far we've, you know, gone towards achieving our goals in a more public manner because even though somebody might be able to find certain information if they like really want to find it, I think it just speaks volumes as a district to like showcase all of our accomplishments where you can just go on to our website and see here's the amazing things that our district does for, you know, families and students. And so I think there's a real opportunity to have a positive, you know, impact and create a positive relationship with constituents there. So that's all I got. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. Just go. >> Thanks, Madam Chair. Dr. Goldhart, my understanding that um if we go with Aubrey, we're going down

046that road so we can consolidate all this data. If we say no, are we going with an in-house proposal to consolidate that data? That's what I thought I heard you say. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, and I guess these two questions are for uh, Mr. Heim. Mr. Heim, so is there a way for you, if you did this inhouse, to personalize this a little bit more to our district's needs and our data as opposed to, you know, starting with something that we're going to try to mold into our district. Is there a way for you to build that up so it's more personalized maybe from the people at the ground level? >> Absolutely. In fact, we already have uh SQL um through the Oracle database in Power School. We have SQL reports that show absenteeism,

047they show YTOP scores, they show um grades, GPA, um attendance, uh all of those things in a single uh query that we have. >> And then the last question, and you know, forgive me, I'm not a tech person. I don't understand, you know, most of this and how what you're going to have to do to build this out. Um, is there enough bandwidth in your day that you can do this? And do you want to do this? I mean, I don't want to put more on your plate than you're capable or, you know, you have time, you know, to do. >> Well, from a technology perspective, I wholeheartedly support the goal of having clear and accessible data dashboards for the district. I think we uh as a district are at a spot where our uh

048the next step for us in our maturity level is to have those data dashboards to guide decisions that we're making. Um, and I think that's uh an important step. We currently have four applications that are a pretty heavy lift for technology to implement this summer. Um, the after meeting with Aubrey, they did also say that it would be a significant lift for technology to not just implement, share, and uh send them the data, but also to get the data back and validate it. Uh I do have significant concerns about the amount of time that that might take. Um given our current staff, uh and the number of people that we have, I I I don't know how we would do it in a short time frame without hiring another person to be able to do

049that. That would be one advantage to to going to Aubrey is that they would take care of that. Uh but I also just to clarify the differences between the certifications. The SOCK 2 certification is a a certification that is the gold standard for data protection and data privacy for organizations. Aubre is not SOCK 2 compliant. Um the SOCK 2 compliance was set up by the uh American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. It's typically a 3 to 12 month audit process that they go through to ensure that that data is being protected and they have certain protocols and systems in place to ensure data privacy is their utmost um concern and that they are protecting that information. Um Aubrey has applied for sock 2 certification um but they h they do not yet have sock 2

050certification. >> Thank you. >> Okay, I think I'm going to try to land this plane here. Any other comments that are pertinent? Okay. Miss Baldwin, can we please have a roll call vote? >> Cecilia Aragon. >> No. >> Beth Bear. Hi. >> Safia Gumolski. >> Hi. Steve Gosar. >> No. >> Janice Marshall. >> No. >> Nate Martin. >> No. >> Carrie Murthy. I >> Emily Stanton. No. >> Kim Sorenson. Hi. I have four yeses, five nos. Thank you. Motion fails. Um I know that you are all here for this next item, but I am going to ask that we take about a fivem minute break. So I apologize for doing but that is this is not going to be a short discussion coming up. So, I am going to ask that we be back by

051about 8:47. All right. Next item on the agenda is purchase offer for 20 for 1212 Baker Street, Old Slade Property. I'm going to ask Dr. Goldheart to introduce this and we'll try to be sort of as clear about this as possible. Right now there are um two recommended actions. Dr. Dr. Goldart, I'm going to ask you to sort of walk through those and then we'll need a motion of some sort, either one of those recommendations or a different motion. So, Dr. Goldart, can you walk us through? >> Absolutely. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, first thing, after having I have a lot of respect for Todd Fiser, our new city manager, and after having a discussion with him, I I want to take counter offer number two off the table and just look at the one.

052I of course I will always prefer getting a full price appraised value offer. However, I in all respect what the board wants to do with that and I completely understand. Uh this is a better offer than we had before. It's kind of in the middle of both. Um and I would be comfortable with either the 725 or the the 525. and it's uh it's gone on for a while. And if the if you want to continue to work, have the property go so we can get the money. Uh just so you're you're informed, if you've driven by Slate, you've noticed a lot of the debris is gone. And they'll continue to work on that. They've said probably by sometime in June they'll be done getting the whole grounds cleared, clean, and ready. And I was

053happy that they left most of the trees. They were able to get the demolition without taking too many of them out because they're, as you know, hard to grow here. And so when you have one, it's kind of nice to to be able to keep it. Now, I don't want to sound wishy-washy on that cuz I understand I I had many conversations with Mr. Feeser and also um with Mr. Enzy uh throughout the year and understand their proposal. Uh it's just a matter if we want the full price, the full appraised value, or if the board wants to go to a compromise in the middle and sell it and move forward. >> Is there a motion? >> Madam [clears throat] Chair, I have a life saver in my mouth. >> You too. >> Bad timing.

054>> I know. Um, I am going to move that we accept the city's offer to sell the property at 1212 Baker Street for $525,000. >> Second. It's been moved and seconded. All right. Just for clarification, we're going to discuss this. If you want to accept the offer, you're going to vote yes. If you don't because you don't want to accept it, or you want to make a motion for a counter offer, you're going to vote no. Clear? That's fine. All right. Discussion. Jesse Murphy. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I was reflecting back, we have been talking about this for a while, right? And, um, one thing that has struck me from the beginning of this conversation, um, you know, reflecting back on the different public comment that we've gotten, the emails we've received over the

055past several months, even the comments tonight, is the folks we've heard from on this issue really represent like a broad range of people from our community. And that's not always the case. You know, the interest groups come or you know, people who are really um impacted by an issue come. But this has been a broad range of the community. Um range of perspectives, life experiences, interests, individuals who live right near the Slade property. Um folks who have lived in Laramie for decades or who have generations who have lived in Laramie since the 1800s. um young professionals and young families who are just starting their careers. Uh folks who are retired, right? Folks who don't live anywhere near the property but just care about housing in the community. Um and we've heard from educators. We've heard

056from teachers who wanted to teach in our district but were unable to accept a position because of the high cost of housing. Uh we've heard from teachers who went to other districts to teach where they could afford to buy a house and raise their family. We've heard multiple examples of teachers who'd had to leave our district due to the high the high cost of housing. Uh so to me, this decision feels like a lot more than just selling land. Um we have the opportunity to invest in something that solves a critical problem, housing for the people who teach our kids. Um, the fact is housing is a barrier to the quality of education our students receive. It directly affects our ability to recruit and retain. And I know you've heard me say it before, but

057I repeat it often because it's important for us to remember. Teachers are the number one most important school-based factor affecting student success. That's not just something I say. This is, you know, beared out by research. Um, the teacher standing in front of the classroom is more important than how old is the building, what technology do you have in the building, have has the flooring, have the carpets been cleaned recently, right? Um, the curriculum, it's the teacher that matters the most. Um, so our ability to recruit and retain the best and the brightest is absolutely important and this is absolutely in our lane and directly affects our our mission and our vision. Um, workforce housing strengthens our mission. I'm looking at goal number three over here where we say ACSD1 will develop is it three? Yes.

058develop systems and structures that ensure that educators feel valued, supported, and empowered. And this feels like a very concrete way to do that. It can help us keep our great teachers here and attract new ones. And it sends a signal that we recognize some of those barriers and needs. I'll wrap up soon. Um, I think, uh, community voices and community partnerships matter. Our community has told us loud and clear, housing is a crisis. Partnering here with the city shows that we're listening and leading, not just for our schools, but the whole community. Um, and I believe that long-term impact beats short-term gain. Could we get more money for this property? Maybe, although I'm not aware of any other offers at this moment. Could we counter and ask the city for more money? Sure. But in

059order for this project to be successful and for us as a district to be partners in the project and then reap the benefits for our educators and thus our students, I strongly support accepting the city's offer. Workforce housing creates lasting value uh for our district. Thank you. >> Thank you, Trusty Sant. >> Thank you, Trusty Murthy, for saying all of that beautifully. Ditto. Uh, Trusty Martin, then Trusty Swornson. I at some point we're just all we can just all go around and then we can go come back. So, Trusty Martin and Trusty Son. >> Yeah, I we we've talked about this a lot. I mean, the the trade-off at this point between the new appraised value and the offer price is $200,000, which as Trusty Murthy said, gets a skin in the game to get

060a portion of the house housing that's constructed for Albany County School District number one employees. Uh again, this was top of the takeout container math, but that's $200,000 for about three or four million worth of housing that will one directly benefit materially benefit the district and our staff and two contribute to a solution for the overall housing crisis that is hurting our community. We've heard a lot recently about the financial troubles caused by recalibration. It's a the problems are real. Um but they're not by any stretch of the imagination ones that are going to be here forever. There is a statewide outcry. Um the the idea that the recalibration is going to stay how it is is just not realistic moving forward. Um the real financial problem that the district faces is declining enrollment. That's

061because whatever model the state comes up with is going to be based on ADM. The fewer students we have, the less money we get from the state, the fewer resources the district has. If young families cannot afford to buy houses and live here, we don't have kids to educate. If workers can't afford to live here, businesses can't locate here, and we don't have jobs for our graduates. But the biggest reason for me to support this project, it's not financial. It's more along the lines of what Trusty Murphy was saying. Public education is under threat. I mean, we see it from the federal level, the dismantling of the Department of Education, the state level. We've got private school voucher programs and book bans and abolishing gun-free zones and massive property tax cuts. And the only way

062that we are going to be able to protect public education is with the support of our community. Um we heard all last week about how harmful silos can be. And so when we're facing real communitywide pro problems that are holistic in nature that don't respect boundaries, we can't afford to sit back in our silo and say we're not going to participate. We have an opportunity to do real good, but we're just going to take every red scent that we can get our hands on in the short term and forget some of you. And I just want to go down the list. I went back through my emails and saw who who who reached out to us, the good folks at the city, the Wyoming Business Council, neighbors who live near the property and people who

063live nowhere near the property. uh the philanthropic community, the Albogen Foundation board, the Wyoming Community Foundation, we have the president of Wiiotac, uh Ivansson Memorial Hospital, um Representative Trey Sherwood, who I challenge anyone to find a more dedicated and level-headed community servant than that anywhere in the state. And so these are the people who have come forward to ask us to participate in this. And I think we're missing a real opportunity if we don't. Um, and people have asked kind of like what's the plan? And I sent around earlier some information about what the plan is in terms of modeling a this after a project that has successfully been implemented in Sheridan under different circumstances as uh Mr. Schmeckle mentioned. Um, so what this is is not only participating in a problem, solving a problem

064that afflicts our community here, it's also part of a statewide effort. Um, the governor's office is focused on it. He holds up Sheridan as a shining example of of creative ways to address our workforce housing, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let Sheridan take all the glory. Just sin. [clears throat] Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I've had the opportunity, and that is being friendly and very nice about it, to be dragged around our community by a daughter who's looking for a home. She's making almost six figures. And you figure, well, they're out there. She just has to look. They're not out there. and the houses that we looked at, I don't know who can afford them, but somebody that's making more than I ever dreamed of at one time can't find a house

065to live in. Uh, so it's not just educators, it's medical personnel, it's support, it's government workers, it's it's anyone that moves to our or is thinking of moving to our community. So, um, I've I've come 180 degrees on this and perhaps for the wrong reasons, but sometimes you need a significant life shakeup to to see the light and realize it's not the train um, at the end of the tunnel. It's it's it's it's real problems and I understand now. And I thought we had real issues with housing when I first moved here in '94. We lived in married student housing because there was no housing to have. But we did find a house to buy and we were able to afford it. And it and it started off that homeownership thing. Kids today, people today,

066I don't know how they're doing it. I absolutely don't know how they're doing it. So, I would say anything that we can do to help. Um it seems like it's our obligation to do such. Thank you, >> Trusty Gilski. >> Thank you, Chair. Yeah, I I think just to echo what everybody just said, I mean things are too expensive across the entire country. We see like the affordability crisis right now and we have a real innovative opportunity to do something about that and you know do it by and for community and I think that that's really special. I think that like nobody's going to come and save us but us and this is a very unique chance to do something like that. I also just want to point out that you know I completed my

067K through2 education here and we just had the extension team come and present about how unique our education is by you know teaching people at a young age that there are community centered you know problem solving that they can be doing in ways that can actually enrich community and I think that this is the best example of that where we as a community can see the direct impact of what we're able to do and how we're able to help people. Um, public education is under attack and this is something that we can concretely do to fight back against that and do something not just for teachers and educators but for everybody within our community. And I think that we will very quickly see the benefits of this pay off not just for our district but

068for our entire community. And so I am all in for this project. Thank you jer. Thank you. Jesse Marshall, did you have anything? >> I appreciate all the work that's been put into this. I also support affordable, attainable housing. I also um am putting the fiduciary responsibility of my job as a school board member and maximizing our monetary gain. When this land is gone, it's gone. We don't have we're not going to just be having more land to sell. Um the difference between the city's off offer of 525 and 725 as has been pointed out $200,000 over 34 units about $7,000 that it would increase each unit. Um, yeah, I I am back and forth, but I I really um feel heavily the weight of fiduciary responsibility to the district. >> Yes, you go, sir.

069>> Thanks, Madam Chair. Um, Madam Chair, I wondered if I could just um asked Mr. Schmeckle to come up. I, you know, I appreciate, you know, Trusty Martin sending us out that information about the Sheridan, um, you know, um, program up there and it was very insightful. Doesn't say that we're going to do the exact same thing. So, I had a laundry list of questions here and I hope I can just ask you and we can just have a conversation about that. Is that okay, >> please? That's >> okay, Madam Chair. Okay. Um, Mr. Mr. Mckle, I it says that Albany County and uh the ACSD is is a partner or is a party with you in this. How? So, we have not formalized a partnership agreement. So, I would say that we're not yet

070a party in it uh together. I I think that there is plenty of opportunity for that. Uh the tenative concept around this project has been to have multiple community partners come together to get a number of units uh out of the houses built uh that would be dedicated for their employees only. We will ultimately have qualifying criteria that will be different based on each project. Uh but employment with one of the community partners would be a tandem uh requirement for this project. So say we sell this property to you ongoing obligation or ongoing commitment from that point it is only that we you would have an obligation to have a number of units specifically for our employees. Is that correct? >> Correct. So we don't have anything else no management or anything else on that

071side of things. Okay. Thank you. Um I looked on the one in Sheridan and one of the partners was Habitat for Humanity. Is that going to be a partner here with us? >> We do not currently have a Habitat for Humanity chapter in Laram. So we we would not >> you can't so we can't just borrow Cheyenne's >> uh no uh uh the the way we are set up we would be that primary entity. We know that Cheyenne is having their own housing difficulties and they seem to be focused on that. There are other organizations also located in Cheyenne that are doing activity over here. They're withdrawing from Laramie because they see more opportunity over in Cheyenne. >> Okay. So there is two different models there. You know the Habitat for Humanity and then the

072outright purchase side of things. And so we will not have the Habitat for Humanity part of Sheridan. We just going to have an outright purchase and with a true mortgage. >> Correct. >> Okay. So they will there's no subsidized mortgages for this. This is going to go strictly through a bank and they're going to have to qualify on their own credit. >> Correct. We will have deed restrictions that will limit the appreciation. Right now, we're assuming that's at 4% to match Sheridan and Jackson and what the banks are allowing them to do. This means that as the property grows in value over time, it only would appreciate by 4%. This ensures that it's permanently attainable housing and not just a grant to the very first employee that buys the house that would then get to

073sell it at a market price. >> Simple interest, not compound interest. >> Correct. Correct. So, from the purchase price, and you said that would be $300,000. Let's just say you're trying to keep it under $300,000. So, that's $12,000 a year that that property could appreciate by or the appraised value. >> Correct. And and people could live in these houses for 50 years. They could live in them for 5 years and use it as a financial vehicle to move forward. We don't we don't have any way to control that once they purchase the house. >> Okay. Are retired uh folks eligible to purchase these homes? At the moment, we do not have our qualifying requirements uh settled down. That is something that could be negotiated. Uh I think that we have a significant need in this

074community for uh senior living arrangements. Uh I think that uh building housing that is accommodating to our senior citizens is very important. I don't know that with the twin home model that will likely be multiple stories that this is going to be ideal for that. >> Yeah. And I agree with you. I think there's a definite need for, you know, for some more um um living arrangements or or properties, you know, for more retired folks, but I think it defeats the purpose. We call it affordable housing for a workforce. Yeah. >> Um a retired person is clearly not working anymore. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um [clears throat] are we going to be um I noticed with the Sheridan model there also they used Sheridan College and they used uh Sheridan High School. um as far

075as you know for apprenticeships and stuff like that we have programs at the University of Wyoming and also at LHS are those programs going to be incorporated into the building models so that there's some training you know associated that we can gain benefit from this >> collaborative partnerships like that are absolutely at the core of our mission so certainly we can do something like that >> um going back to how many units you know um if we sold it to you for $525 uh000 we're leaving you know $200,000 on the table from the appraised price. Um, how many units, you know, do you think of the 17 would be allocated based on that investment of our 200,000 bucks? >> Well, uh, again, I cannot negotiate in public. However, uh, the general concept has been that

076there would be an equal division amongst four partners. >> And who are those four partners? >> Uh, at the moment, the assumption would be the city, the uh, Ivansson Hospital, you guys, and perhaps the county. perhaps another community business program as well. >> We're not sure who that's going to be just yet. >> Can you tell me how much Ison is contributing to this project? >> We have not formed that partnership agreement yet. >> Okay. So, that's still open-ended. >> Correct. >> Can you tell me um and maybe this is a better question for Mr. Feeser um to come back to? I I'm just I read the article in the paper and our mayor said that uh having to pay the appraised value would ruin the deal. um maybe you can get, you know, tell

077me how 200,000 more would ruin the deal. >> So, it goes back to that AMI. We can't get above the 120% because it would eliminate a significant source of grant funding. And even though it's just a small amount, less than $10,000 per unit, that is enough to put us over that $120,000 mark. We are very tight margins. Uh the original concept of this plan pencled out at $345,000. I feel that we have eaten into a significant portion of our margin to try to raise that price up to the 525 that we feel we can max out at. >> And that does not include so so so tell me I'm I'm just a little bit understand on the on the grant side of it. How does that work? I mean, does does like the Al Bogan

078Foundation or the Hughes Foundation out of Jackson, how does that help or does it even help at all with the federal grants if for contributions from them? It will depend upon the level of support that they have. I will say that the El Bogen Foundation has given us what I consider significant contribution to just get off the ground and to to to give us the money to consider this project and to hire a staff member uh including myself uh to to do this. Uh it will require match. Uh we're looking at contribution from the city. We're looking at potentially an inind match from you all and that difference between the valuation of what you would sell it at versus what you say the appraised value is. That could be used as an inkind donation to

079my understanding. uh it would impact from what I understand. >> So then we would if you had more fundraising efforts involved then we would be less reliant on the federal grants, right? >> And so then really that 116% is a little bit less of an issue. >> It could be. >> Yeah. And I I kind of was looking back on my notes and I I remember what the Albogen Foundation said at a couple meetings ago. They you know they contributed 150,000 I think they told us in the meeting and they said with potentially more as meaningful progress is achieved. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um so I guess you know what kind of thinking about you know some of these you know these other sources of of funds. there are other sources of funds and

080I look at, you know, I'm looking at the, you know, the Ivansson's, you know, um, nonprofit statement, you know, uh, here and I'm looking at significant funds, significantly more funds than what we have as a district, um, you know, at our fingertips. and to to ask us to to to dole out and 200,000 bucks is a little bit >> I'm going to say that the characterization on the Albogen funding is it's been for operations and that's what that funding has been earmarked for over the initial three-year period that we would be building for in our business model of how we're building this out. We have to build up a corpus of funds. It's not profit, but it's money we can then reinvest into the community to uh scale this project up so that we can

081do more and more housing all at once. It's it's not that we're we're we're cutting margins for the sake of uh uh you know trying to build money. We're we're trying to build something that is attainable for the workforce first >> and then what we can generate from that in multiple projects we can then magnify and put back out into the community. >> Are you anticipating the full 17 lots all at once or I mean initially is that just dependent on on funding or are you thinking that hey we're going to roll this thing out completely? It it is dependent upon uh funding. It's also dependent upon our strategic partnership. One of the things that we have a a mandate to do is to kind of help our local developers build and expand faster. Currently,

082Larmy builds about 60 houses a year. We need to get that to 200 a year to stop the bleeding in town. We need to then surge to 400 units in order to solve the problem. Uh with this project, we can match with a developer who's looking to develop a similar concept on another property here in town that would also be doing twin homes. we can do some uh economies of scale and and pour foundations at the same time, order the units at the same time, do our construction at the same time, so we can drive those prices down as much as possible, but we're looking to get between, you know, 64 and 68 homes uh built with this project. >> Not on the old slate, >> not on the old between the two projects working

083together at the same time. Yeah. Okay. Um, will we will we be providing the homeowners with education classes and workshops? >> Absolutely. >> Just like the one in Sheridan. >> Absolutely. >> We're big fans of education, too. I guess my um one other question for you. Thank you. Appreciate that all that information that helps out because I think we've been you know me personally has felt like we have not had enough information as well on this and I think that has been very enlightening for me um on this side of things. I guess um I looked and it said 120% of you know people that would qualify is 120% of the average median income in Albany County. And it shows that our average median income is $61,917. So 120% would be $74,300. So not just

084allocating, you know, you know, some homes for our staff, our staff have to qualify for that first. And so Miss Green, um, do you have any idea percentage-wise of 74,300, how many would qualify for that of our staff? The average salary starting next year will be 73,500. Correct. The average teacher salary. So if you take classified employees, it's going to it's going to be quite a bit below that. But we with this new funding model, we take a big step up. And so a lot of our staff are going to be right at that threshold for Okay. Um, and one last time I was thinking about my next question and so I didn't really quite get that. How many units do you anticipate would be allocated for ACSD >> at the moment? Uh, w without

085making commitments and not negotiating in public, my guess would be around eight. >> Eight of the 17 >> eight of the 34 to 32 houses. There's there's a concern about flooding in the area. We have to look at storm water mitigation. Uh we think that there's an opportunity to do some salamander habitat in the area. We've already reached out to the biodiversity institute at the University of Wyoming to see if there is grant funding that could allow us to to take care of that and to create that habitat and create the interpretive center necessary uh for the community to understand the importance of the salamanders and what we can do there. It's going to depend upon what the city is going to require of us as part of our purchase agreement and kind of go

086from there as to how we make things happen. >> Thank you. Um I guess one comment um Madam Chair is I think all along you know we knew that you know $300,000 was not the appropriate appraisal price for that property and I feel like you know Mr. Fezer you know um I was a little bit skeptical and I think that's warranted. I think everybody was skeptical, you know, that, you know, um, we tried to get 300,000, you know, shoved down our throats and that that I didn't I didn't I didn't think that that was right and I think that that brought a lot of skepticism to this program. Um, and I don't think that that's on you. I know that you had a an appraiser do that, but it's or how was that done? Can

087you just explain that to me? how that was how the 300,000 came about >> that amount uh madam chair trustee that that amount was done from appraiser out of Colorado that we hired and that was the original amount that the that appraiser that we hired >> that was our hire and and then so then we felt like that was really low so we hired another one whose whose [clears throat] appraiser was that who I mean is that somebody that does, you know, normal appraising work here or do they >> we for so uh Madam Chair, trustee, originally we put it out as an RFP trying to get people to bid for it. That's the only person that came back to us with an with a uh uh bid at less than half of the actual

088value of that property. And I think we all understand with 17 lots that was incredibly low. Um, Madam Chair, I I am in full support of um workforce housing, affordable housing, um, accessible housing in in our community. It's definitely needed. It's a it's a it's a big project that needs to be done. I think it's long overdue. Um I think when we look back um I do go back and and look what fiduciary means and it's yeah you have to you have to think about your client's best interest you know not just in their finances but in their property um you know we can look at our clients in a number of different ways our clients are our students and our clients are our employees and I can see you know where you know we

089have the ability to negotiate on this price. I'm looking at the the special services building, you know, um we had a price uh an appraised price and we had an offer. We came back um with the appraised price with the city uh on a much smaller lot with demolition to to be uh assumed by the city. Um we had the administration building. Um we had a private entity that offered us a price. We came back with full price and negotiated that price higher. Um, you know, we have a price, you know, coming up for the DTI, you know, at stadium that's nearly the asking price. Um, I'm glad Dr. Goldhart took that other option off. I I have a hard time just comingling properties um just to get a sale. Um, I'm looking at the

090numbers here and I'm looking, you know, ahead and, you know, my my thoughts are on this. Um, I want this to happen, but I can't feel good, you know, with being a fiduciary in our role and and and looking at how this has played out and not, you know, throw back a counter offer to the city. Um, my number, you know, that I was looking at was 650,000 bucks. Um, and that's maybe a little bit um higher than middle. Um, but it is definitely, you know, a good bit lower than the appraised price. Thank you. >> Thank you, Trusty Aragon. Did you have anything? >> Thank you, Madame Chair. Um, I would I would like to start off um in telling a story and um of course um I'll do my best to stick to

091my script because I did thorough research and um put together a narrative that I think explains um my position. And I think the and and the and also the fidiciary responsibility that Trusty Gossar is so highly um elevated and and stated to begin with. My research looks at um statistics, numbers and moves on to the impacts of families in our district. Um first of all um my national resources are the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. Um secondly, it's the uh United States Census, also the United States Department Treasury, which I think um Trustee Gosar was alluding to on interest rates and and down payments. Um, most importantly, I also looked at statewide and local nonprofit organizations. Um, Habitat for Humanity being one. Um, I also looked at other city nonprofit um, statistics that

092the city has collected. um went into some of the databases that they have um collected information, a wide variety of information. And what I want to say is first and foremost, I think that um national politics has limited a lot of what we have in our power to do in the choices that we make. um regarding students. Um looking at the the city and looking at I think what uh trustee Gosar was uh alluding [clears throat] to was the sub subsidizing down payments for our workforce. Um also the lower the low interest rates. Um, looking at the local data, our workforce average age is 44. They are Hispanic, Native American, African-American, Asian-American, which is a combination of 21%. There is also a high percentage of women who are in entrylevel and mid management positions. So

093furthermore, these what are these common job the common job groups that we have in our community educational instructional library and medical occupational. Then we also have the mid management. And in third ranking is office, administrative support and also entrylevel medical occupations. Looking at it statewide, we have a housing crisis. Specifically ranking number one is Teton County. Second Laramie County, third Albany County, fourth is Sheridan County, Natrona County, then sublett Johnson, Crook Counties, and then finally Campbell County. of these counties looking at a denominator, they are the workforce and especially we know that in Teton in Teton County, the workforce is Hispanic, Native American. Particularly here in Albany County, we have a high percentage of workforce that is um that is both a combination of Hispanic, Native American, multicultural, af and African-American. Given these common job

094groups and given my own family background and the array of issues that come along with affordable housing, workforce housing, and accessible housing. I champion as I did when I was a very young professional. I am reminded of my beliefs and my value system. I want to go back and highlight what the reverend had to say about about this issue. He highlighted legacy and he highlighted how his family entered the workforce and the legacy of being loyal to railroad and railroad construction. I think about who built America when I look at my own heritage and I think about workforce housing and how my grandmother could have could afford to to have ownership. So this I'm talking about the problems and why we have a housing crisis. it because it bridges the wealth gap. Um, workforce housing

095and affordable housing bridges the wealth gap. It supports essential workers. It develops this economic growth and stability in families and families we also mean children. And there's what I strongly believe a corporate and civic social responsibility in workforce housing. And like I said before, I want to look at the fudiciary responsibility that we have as a school district, but I also understand the importance of of maintaining a healthy, stability economic environment in Albany County. I champion affordable housing and workforce housing. I champion collaborative work especially with um the organizations that Fred Schmickle um mentioned. And to me ultimately when I return to my values and my beliefs is that I believe that affordable and workforce housing advances economic equity. It closes the racial wealth gap and it supports the missing middle class. It supports the

096predominantly white middle class that we have here in Laramie that we call the essential workers and they keep our community running. Personally, having navigated systemic barriers to achieve my own success, to achieve my own academic success and professional success. I I personally strongly believe that I view stable housing as a foundational tool for upward mobility. I had the right to do that and so do other people. It is a human right. So falling back upon my beliefs, I am in support of affordable workforce and accessible housing. However, with that caveat, we will outdo Sheridan. I know we can. and how we can do that. I want to propose what Trusty Gosar said of a counter offer of 650 in addition to subsidizing a down payment. I I'm really don't know any entrylevel assistant professor at

097the university who can come up with $75,000 for a down payment. I know that there are national policies and programs that do offer subsidizing a down payment for a home and I would strongly suggest that that's how we can do outdo and upstand Sheridan's proposal. So, Mr. Fred Schmikl, if you would like to and also um Todd Frasier, if you would like to address that in terms of those are my [clears throat] concerns. I'm just going to pause this. I we are we cannot get into a big dialogue. Um I think answering questions is okay. I don't know that it's within our scope to be able to make that stipulation. Um that's my concern. You can certainly make an amendment um to the motion to counter offer. I don't believe that we have it within

098our purview to stipulate what happens with a down payment to these properties. Could somebody help me out? >> Yeah, >> Madam Chair, I would recommend that we vote on the motion as it stands and if people don't want to vote for it and propose something different, then vote it down. I'll still be voting for it. >> Madam Chair, I have a I have a better number >> point of order >> for Mr. Gosars. >> I'm I'm I while we appreciate the um information that staff provides, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for um this kind of back and forth to butt into board discussion about this. I mean, is there a specific question that's being answered? I I agree with Trusty Mercy that we have a we have a motion on the table and that

099the conversation is moving away from that motion into speculation and other proposals. >> Have a specific question for um Miss Green. >> Go ahead. Um, Miss Green, in the calculations of of the the selling property along with the perhaps the the offbalance of the 200,000 in kind contribution that we'll be making. Um, can you give me a rough estimate of what a counter offer would look like other than 650? Go ahead, Miss Green. >> Not quite sure I'm following the question. >> I'm just going to allow Miss Green to say what she was going to say. So, go ahead, Miss Green. >> I only wanted to say to uh Trusty Gostar Gossar's question, um the amount of staff that would qualify is 22%. 58 of those is teachers. >> Thank you. >> Sorry for the

100delay. >> Appreciate the information. Okay, I'm gonna ask everybody to pause. Jesse Ergon, did you have any more of your comments and then I'm going to make a comment and we're going to go around again. >> No, that was it. I promised myself I would stay on script. >> Okay. Um, I just want to offer a couple thoughts. Um, I feel frustrated that the district has been put in this position to be quite honest. Um it feels frustrating that it um there's a narrative out there that to be a good community partner, we have to not have $200,000 that our district desperately needs. I think that's been pretty apparent after our budget discussions. And so I think it's frustrating. Um that said, I do appreciate what Trusty Martin said about not living in our silo.

101Um so I'm just really torn on it. Um, it's also very frustrating to read an article in the paper saying the city can't accept a counter offer. Um, and we have to do this negotiating in public, right? So, we're already at a disadvantage. And so, the way this has been handled, I find some frustration over. And that said, I I will happily um just make a decision and be done with this. It's taken up a lot of bandwidth for this board. Um, I I'm hesitant, but I haven't seen a guarantee for teachers in writing. I understand that's the idea. that makes me hesitant. I also really want to know what affordable is because that looks very different to different people. Um I'm encouraged to hear that this is just a start. Um if we're being

102asked to basically give up $200,000, I want other people to come to the table and do the same. 34 units doesn't fix this problem in our community. And I think we all know that. I'm confused why we wouldn't entertain um a counter offer. We've done that on every offer we've had for property as somebody else has mentioned. And it's just good business. That's what I would do. And if this was my my personal um property and so I guess I'd really ask the board to entertain why we wouldn't counter offer. The city can say no and then we have to make a decision. But it just feels like financially responsible to make a counter offer. >> Yeah. And ju just really briefly, the city's initial offer was for our initial appraised price and our essential

103counter offer was to say no that that's no good. So this is tantamount to a negotiation. I think it's pretty clear that I understand what Mr. Schmeckle is saying clearly that if we bump the price up, it takes us outside of the threat the 120% threshold um and and makes the problem. I I agree that the comments in the paper were unfortunate, but it makes it unfeasible. And with that, I mean, respectfully, I'm going to call the question. >> Ma'am, I just got one question for clarification. [laughter] >> That's not correct. Help me out here, Casey. >> It's not. Ba gave me a cheat sheet because this has happened before and I don't >> Yep. used to do it all the time. >> No, >> that's not. Yes. >> You're call You're calling the question

104needs a vote and I believe it's twothirds, correct? >> Yeah. >> I didn't hear what you said. >> Calling the question needs a vote and it needs to be two/3. Correct. >> And it does require a second. >> Okay. Um >> excuse me. Um I'd like to ask Casey if I object to the consideration. Will that take us back to an open debate? >> Yes. Okay, I object to No, let's Okay, we're all gonna pause. >> I object to consideration only to hear Trusty Gosar comment. >> Let's pause. Trusty Martin has called the question. There is no more discussion. We will vote. It needs a second. So, if anyone's going to second, it needs a second. >> We will vote on whether we're calling question. If it passes, we immediately vote. If not, it gets

105voted in and we can continue discussion. Clear? >> Yes. >> Okay. I despise calling the question. Okay. Is that correct, Miss Baldwin? Okay. Can we have a roll call vote on whether we are calling the question? Again, if you vote yes, that means we end debate. We vote. If you vote no, that means we continue debate. >> Cecilia Aragon, >> no. I object to consideration. >> Beth Bear, >> no. Sophia Gamlowski. >> No. >> Steve Gosar. >> No. >> Janice Marshall. >> No. >> Nate Martin. >> Hi. >> Carrie Murphy. >> Hi. >> Emily Stanton. I >> Kim Sorenson. Hi. Four. Yes. Five. No. Okay. Trusty Goshard, did you have a comment? >> Yeah. After hearing the board talk here, I think we have some different thoughts than what I thought you told me. If

106there is outside funding sources that lowers our reliance on the federal funding, correct? And it is a reliance rate on the federal funding that we're worried about with the higher price. We have to be within that 120% in order to apply for the funding. There's no guarantee we will get it. uh if we are above that 120% we're not in a position to do the application. The other funding that may or may not be out there is also offset by the risks that we may face from delaying construction by another month if we don't get acquisition of this property until July. We're probably doing 90 days of engineering. We're looking at additional time for tax increment financing to do the infrastructure. I cannot guarantee we can break ground this year. We do not know what

107the prices are going to do in the next year. There's significant risk in either going for additional money or in waiting too long. >> 120% of what? >> Of area median income. And to clarify, it's not a $75,000 down payment. It would be a traditional mortgage, which could be 3.5%. But yeah, >> it could be nothing right now, too. There's >> in some cases. So you're so you're saying it's 120% is that threshold of that, you know, the uh area median income. >> Then that has no effect on the 300,000 bucks per unit. We're just trying to keep it under 300,000 bucks, but that doesn't affect that. We are trying to keep it under 300,000 so that we can afford to apply. If we don't, if we stay under the 120%, we're in the good.

108If we're above 120% by the federal definition, we are not building workforce housing. We are building market rate housing. We need to focus on the workforce housing. >> But I still don't understand 120% doesn't equal 300,000. So where do you >> It's the annual income that a household brings in that they can then qualify for the mortgage. The price of the house is 300,000. >> Okay. So, you're just talking that's how they're going to have to qualify for the mortgage because it you don't have any subsidized down payments or or lending. It is a straight mortgage that they have to qualify for. >> Correct. There are additional programs such as the WCDA program that might they might be eligible for. That'll be up to the different applicants uh that could receive some down payment assistance

109or some other program out there. If we can find additional funding, we are absolutely willing to develop our own program. There are other programs in the state that are currently offering as high as $25,000 in funding. These programs are not sustainable and they are looking at selling off property in this town in order to fund those programs. So, what I heard you say is if we get foundation money that is outside, right, that lowers our threshold of the obligation for federal funding. If we can shake a money tree somewhere, yes. However, we don't know where that money tree is. >> Well, I know there's one in Jackson Hole that does a lot of money distribution for healthcare and housing every single year. And have you contacted them? >> We have not contacted the Hughes Foundation

110at this time because we need a project in order to write a grant around. >> Thank you. >> All right. Any further questions or comments? Jesse Marshall. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I this is [clears throat] I appreciate Dr. Goldheart that you took off counter offer two. Um that was new to me when I looked at the agenda today. I'm wondering when that was posted. It was not there when I originally looked at this. So, I appreciate that you took that off because I think that's a very complicated um recommendation with another property in there. And I learned more from Mr. Victor's article than I did. I mean, I did not know that was there. So, I'm curious when you put that in the agenda. >> I think it was on Monday. Was it

111Monday, Casey? I can't remember. >> I don't I don't remember, Dr. Goldart. >> So, I just repeat my request. When something is added to the agenda, please let us know. Um, it could be, you know, when you email Casey and let her know to add it to the agenda, copy us so that we are informed as well. >> Okay. Anything else on the current motion? I think the only thing I'll say is like I it bothers me to not counter. I don't sense that the board is heading that direction and I'd rather have anything for this property at this point. I don't think we're getting another offer. I think there's some bad press around anybody coming in and competing with for this property right now. So, I don't love it, but I think we need

112to sell the property. So, any other questions or comments? Okay. There's been no amendment. So, the motion was to accept the city's offer of $525,000 for 1212 Baker Street Old Slate property. One last time, any questions or comments? All right. Can we please have another roll call vote? Miss Baldwin, it's just the night for that. Cecilia Aragon. >> Yes. Beth Bear. I >> Sophia Gamolski. Hi, >> Steve Gosar. >> No, I think we should count her at 650. >> Janice Marshall. >> No. >> Nate Martin. >> Hi. >> Carrie Murthy. >> Hi. >> Emily Stanton. Hi. >> Kim Sorenson. Hi. Seven yes, two no. >> Thank you. Motion passes. Next item on the agenda, purchase offer for Larmy Athletic Field property. Dr. Goldheart. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. You have an offer before you for

113$926,000 for that uh property. Uh the asking price was $950. That's a strong offer, a strong buyer that's ready to move forward and can close soon on that property. So, my recommendation would be to approve that offer. >> Thank you. May I please have a motion? >> Madam Chair, I move that the board accept the offer in contingencies from Wasatch Tailor Made Builders LLC to purchase the Larmy Athletic Field property for the full purchase price of $926,000. >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Jesse Murthy. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, one of the things on my mind as I was looking at this, um, is, you know, of course, we've we've heard, um, community dismay at getting rid of Larmy athletic fields, but we've already made that decision. So, for me, that is not

114fully a factor. But [laughter] the, um, what do we do now about that facility going away is a factor um, in the timing. And what I'm curious about um is do do you know Dr. Goldheart whether we have any sense of the flexibility of the closing date? I'm looking at the closing date it looks like is not until March 1st 2027 knowing that that's already so far away. I just wonder would they be open to extending it to June 2027 which means we could get a full another academic year of use out of that facility before it actually closes. um giving us more time to think about middle school facilities moving forward. >> Uh we'd have to have Mr. Walsh work with the realtor that they work with and decide if that if that's something

115that they would be wanting to do. >> Thank you. Um I guess a related question maybe for Mr. Wilkinson is would that be a feasible thing to continue to use the facilities one more year? >> I I'll defer that to the uh chief financial officer. >> No, we need the money, please. >> So, the the difference is closing March 2027 or June 2027. So, I'm not suggesting we would don't get the money. I'm just >> I need to close sooner. I need to close as soon as possible. Because I think it, if I remember right, it says on or be. It could be on or before. >> Correct. >> And my guess is is they would want before. >> Okay. Um do we have other current solutions that are in motion for um for Laramie

116Middle School activities that currently use those facilities uh for next academic year? Uh the high school has facilities. The track at the middle school was used for many, many, many years for the same thing. And then it was just in recent time that that's been used at the other facility. And then I know Mr. Wilkerson, he can share what's coming up next. Madam Chair, trustees, uh we did submit for a I'm going to give a little bit of background here. First, we've been working with the uh school construction department on a new Larmy Middle School. Even if it was approved today, we wouldn't be building at the earliest of 32 or 33, 2032 or 2033. So, I went ahead and uh it will be for the uh 2627 uh school year. So, it wouldn't be

117done until a year from now, but we were approved to use uh 10% major maintenance money to upgrade that track. The reason it's 10%, it will be considered excess because there is no money. There is there is no uh football fields or track and field for middle school. There's it's just not out there. Same way with the coaches and everything that we talk to you about all the time. So, yes, we have that. Um, just for everybody's information, none of the schools in Cheyenne have a track and field. The middle schools, none of the schools in that's just I I mean, that's $1.2 million that is not going to be used for repairing our school. So, but it has been approved. if the board wishes to go away ahead with that, that is part of

118the budget. That's that's going to uh be approved in June. Um but yes, that would be another opportunity we put in just to see what they would say and it was approved, but it would be considered in excess. >> Mr. Wilkerson, at the very beginning, did you say something about a new Larry Middle School or did I miss it? >> Yeah, that that's what we were talking about. Um because it it's going to be at le what I'm saying is is even if we got approved for uh Alarm Middle School based on uh condition, we're I'm going to say we're eight years out. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That's just >> Can I Can I just get some clarification, too? So, when you're saying what's been put in the budget that the 10% we can

119use, that is for what? >> That is for the building of it initially of $1.2 $2 million and then it always fun comes out of the 10% funds. 10% funds is one of the things they're talking about getting rid of that then that just has to come out of your uh reserves to repair and stuff. >> Building of upgrading the track at >> We can't >> Oh, so yes. What's that? >> You said that's for the building of it. The building of upgrading the facilities at the current Laram Middle School. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. That was the clarification. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Anything else on this? Trusty Marshall. >> Thank you. >> Um Dr. Goldheart, will you clarify exactly what this Laramie Athletic Field property entails? >> It's the field itself and

120then there's part of what I call the L of that other grassy area behind it that goes up kind of up to next to slate. It's not that whole area, but it's part. But how much of it do you think it is, Randy? Three4s. >> It's the area from uh Reynolds and 15th up to Shields and 15th over to We have a uh I think it's a 65- ft buffer zone. Um, and so it would those upper fields is what we've always called them where those upper football fields were that area and then across and it would it follows pretty much where it's it's a weird because 15th is there but I think it's 13th that comes into Reynolds at a at an angle. It's pretty much straight north off of there. >> Does this

121include the DT stadium? >> Not now. That could be oper that could be an option if we decided to do that and see if they were interested if that was something that came available. >> But it does include the track. >> Yes. >> Jesse Martin. >> Is the is the property adjacent to the land where we've been contemplating building the transportation hub? That's the stadium. Okay. So, Okay. >> And I think there's a diagram. What page is that, Tristy Murphy? >> On page 15 of the The attachment has the map. Tracy Marshall, >> one more question. So, I see that it's Wasatch, excuse me, Tailor Made Builders. Do you have an idea what it is they intend to build there? >> I don't since that's not in our purview. It'd have to get approval through

122the city planning department, zoning, and so forth. >> Mr. Walsh, did you have something? There we go. Um, one thing I did want to clarify on the closing honor before March 1st, uh, 2027. Um, I I think that they would be interested in closing early, but however, this property is different compared to all the other properties. This is not legally subdivided and so this needs to go through the city of Laramie administrative plat um if not a full subdivision before we can actually sell this property. So we are basically showing them the track three that they are making an offer on that but they that's what could take some time. So, I don't think we could have like a quick 30-day closing or anything like that because we're gonna we're going to definitely need to

123bring this to the city and get the administrative approval to divide those parcels because they are not legally divided. >> Uh, Trusty Aragon and Trusty Murthy. >> Um, yes. I would like to make an amendment to the motion um with a counter offer of $151 million. It needs a second. Is there a second? >> Second. >> What was the appraisal of Miss Valley on this property? 950. >> Okay. >> Discussion on the amendment. >> I would just ask our realtor's advice. I think at uh 926,000 or 950,000 in the state that the property is undeveloped without infrastructure everything the 250 uh square foot is very reasonable. Um and so uh I would stick with the 950 to 926. >> Any other questions or discussions on the amendment? Okay. All those in favor of the amendment,

124please say I. >> I. >> How many? >> Okay. So, this is an amendment to counter it. What price again? Your mic's not on. >> 1.151 million. Okay. >> Miss Baldwin, can we please have a roll call vote? >> Cecilia Aragon. >> I. >> Beth Bear. >> No. >> Sophia Gamski. >> I. >> Was that an I? >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Steve Gosar. >> No. Janice Marshall, >> no. >> Nate Martin, >> no. >> Carrie Murphy, >> no. >> Emily Stanton, >> no. Kim Sorenson, >> hi. >> Three yeses, six nos. Thank you. Amendment fails. Back to the original amendment. Any other discussion on accepting the offer of $926,000? >> Madam Chair, >> yes. >> I would like to make another amendment of $950. >> Is there a second? >> So moved and

125seconded. May we please have a roll call vote on the amendment to counter at $950,000? >> Cecilia Aragon. I [clears throat] >> Beth Bear. >> No. >> Sophia Gamski. >> No. >> Steve Gosar. >> No. >> Janice Marshall. >> I >> Nate Martin. >> No. >> Carrie Murthy. >> No. >> Emily Stanton. >> No. >> Kim Sorenson. >> Hi. Three yeses, six nos. >> Amendment fails. Any other comments on or questions on accepting the offer of $926,000? And don't tell me it's another amendment. >> Jesse Martin, did you have something? >> Oh, I was just going to say if we wanted to sell it less for workforce housing. >> Too soon. Trusty Murphy. Just Sorry. I just What? and hearing hearing your um comments about what needs to happen with the platting and whatnot. Are

126we pretty comfortable that that can all happen by March 1? Do you have a sense? >> Yes, I think that probably it could be maybe 90 days processed. So, >> okay, it might be a lot faster. So, that gives a good amount already >> because a lot of it is done. the trihydro's done a lot of work and yeah >> um so if if it's an administrative uh plat um then just the administration has to approve it if it is not administrative plat uh or approved it needs to go through the whole council of the city which could take a little bit longer >> thank you no further questions >> Marshall did you have something >> just a quick question um Mr. Walsh, do you know what way was tailor made builders specializes in? Is

127it housing? >> They it is going to be residential. Um could be multifamily, could be both. So >> trusty Swanson, >> quick question um to Dr. Goldheart. Has has the high school been contacted to see if they can handle this? I was there last night. I was stunned. There was probably 300 or more people using Dai Stadium. I've driven by there many times, but between Jackal Lobes track and field and a couple of soccer teams, that thing was full. It was packed last night. If that's indicative of some of the comments, this is the first thing, including COVID, that I've ever really had much comments from the public on. and they are pretty adamant about this open space being used by the public. However, to be honest, I will say that when I tell them

128that the state has said they're not paying for this, it's up to us. It's about hundred and some thousand dollars. Everybody that I've talked to, I have to tell you, has said, "Oh, and it's like the end of discussion." They get it. They get it. So to some degree, I almost have no problem with voting for the sale of it, but we need to probably be aware and make plans for all of these activities moving to some other place and being told that they can move to other places, including the youth football. I saw the soccer practices. I don't know where the jackaloupe track will move to. I don't know. Our first priority is always our teams and we have plenty of room for that with our facilities and the rest would be secondary. >>

129I just want to clarify we already voted to sell this property like we've already done that that we're just voting on the offer. So I appreciate that. I do think we need some coordination coming up here soon but just to clarify. Any other questions or comments on the motion to accept the offer? Okay. All those in favor, please say I. I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. Next up on the agenda, policies. First is policy 2016 procurement and procedures using federal fund monies. Third reading, Mr. Kalper. Madam chair, trustees, the first I believe two policies um are as we talked uh previously about um related to uh our federal reporting obligations uh actually yeah the first three all related to our federal reporting operate obligations um as far as policy 2016 we discussed in policy and governance

130no changes to this policy since second reading. >> Thank you. May I please have a motion? Madame Chair, I move that the board adopt policy 2016 procurement procedures using federal fund monies. Um, now new title the federal fund monies as presented. >> Second. >> They moved and seconded. Any discussion or cash? >> I'm glad that was second. [laughter] Glad that was. >> All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. Opposed. >> Motion passes. Next up, policy 703. Madam chair, trustees, this, if you remember, this is a policy that we're combining. Again, third reading, no changes. >> Motion. >> Madam chair, I move that the board adopt policy 70003, family engagement, new title, school, parent, family, and community engagement as presented. >> I um second moved and seconded. Any question or discussion? >> All

131those in favor, please say I. I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Next up, last name, please, is policy 2001, finance and accounting. New title, finance and accounting, internal controls and separation of duties. >> Madam chair, trustees, again, one of our federal reporting um policies that we're making changes to. Uh different from the last two. This is on second reading, but no changes since sec uh since first reading. >> Thank you, >> Madam Chair. I move that the board approve the second reading of policy 2001 finance and accounting with the new title finance and accounting internal controls and separation of duties as presented. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Any question or discussion for Mr. K. >> Okay. All those in favor please say I. >> I. >>

132Opposed. Motion passes. Next up, first reading, policy 2035, capitalization and inventory. >> Madam chair, trustees. This is a policy that uh Miss Green uh gave to me uh to to put uh before the board. We discussed it in policy and governance. I think the the primary reason for these changes um to this particular um this particular policy is for auditing purposes. Is that correct? Yes. uh that's what we discussed in policy and governance. And so obviously the the um the two topics of this this policy would be um uh what we do, how we capitalize assets um and then also um how we keep inventory in the district. It was approved by uh the policy and governance committee uh and for your consideration. >> Thank you. May I please have a motion? Madam Chair, I

133move that the board approve the first reading of policy 2035, capitalization and inventory as presented. >> Second. Moved and seconded. Any question or discussion? Yes, Trusty Marshall. >> Thank you. Um Mr. Kalper, towards the end, there's a statement that says all technology equipment, no matter the cost, will be tagged and tracked in the district's asset management system. How does that work with like students Chromebooks? They're all um t I understand tagged and tracked, but being listed in the asset management system seems like that would be a lot of work to constantly change that as Chromebooks are replaced. Just wondering how that works. >> Madam Chair, Trusty Marshall, I think that Miss Green or Mr. Heim could probably answer this question better than I could. Madam chair, trustes, uh, we track those through audit logs and

134we, um, they're automatically connected to our inventory tracking system, incident IQ. U, so as soon as they connect to the network and as soon as we onboard them, they're connected as an asset. When we deprovision those devices and send them forate, then they're taken out of the asset tracking system. >> Any Yeah, Tristy, you're >> Well, I believe that the edits here are absolutely um clear and support the the striking out of the capital assets and building signing movement. Um and the definition in green a capital S as defined in blah blah blah blah and I am just wondering um is there a possibility to um talk about what that tangible or intangible assets are an example >> your intangible asset would be your software and then you know your tangible assets or your physical

135um are your more physical uh items. >> Tangible assets you can touch, intangible assets you cannot touch. >> Having intellectual property, um copyrights, are those considered assets as well? >> Madam Chair Trusty, no. um the intangible assets they're talking about is a result of a Gazsby law change in that now some software they've realized is at such a high dollar amount that they are really considering that an asset um even though it's not something that you physically hold. So now per Gazsby audit law or accounting law you now have to account for those software intangible assets over a certain dollar amount. I see my second question is just a follow up with that um I think what Trusty Martin called the DIY to a software that we can develop internally in the house would that

136be considered also intangible or intellectual property >> it would not be a trackable item because it's not an expense that we pay for. Any further questions or discussion? Okay. All those in favor of the motion, please say I. I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Next up on first reading policy 4025, student use of cellular phones and smart devices. >> Madam chair, trustes, let's talk about something interesting. Um, I'm just kidding. The the reason uh this policy is necessitated by um Senate File 46 passed by the legislature. Uh, essentially Senate File 46 says all districts must have a cell phone policy. It doesn't prescribe what that cell phone or prescribe what that um cell phone policy must contain or anything like that. It simply says you must pass one. Um, it it gives you a deadline to

137pass one um and that you must report it to uh report it to the state um that you have passed it um in consultation with with Dr. Goldart as well as the policy and governance committee. Uh we have developed a a a policy. In essence, this policy gives schools the right to create their own particular policy that that fits their school. Um I would I I think those those are sort of the the the broad strokes of the policy. Um I would note though that the policy and governance committee um did have the suggested change um that the board of trustees does initially approve each school level regulation um and and then would subsequently approve any substantial changes to the cell phone policy at the school level. So that thinking ahead that is something that

138we will have to consider. Um we will have to figure out when we are going to take uh those school level regulations to the board for approval. Oh, wait. Can we have a motion, please? >> Madam Chair, I move that the board approve the first reading of policy 4025, student use of cellular telephones and smart devices as presented. >> Second, >> Mr. Kapper, I'm curious the thought behind the board having to approve these and I'm wondering like would they be in sort of guidelines that we already approved for schools? There's just lots of like policy that we or procedures at schools we don't approve. >> Madam Chair, trustees, I think the purpose of the policy governance committee um is in doing so, if I'm articulating it correctly, um was that at the end of the

139day, if we pass a policy, right, or if somebody's unhappy happy with the way that cell phones are enforced, right, that ultimately it will likely make it back to the school board. Um, and so it's probably good for the school board to initially approve those school level what I would just call regulations that would go in the student handbooks. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Trusty Urggon and then Trusty Marshall. >> Yes. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Um I do have a question on the disciplinary action which is that if there are any violations of school level rules and then it goes on to say that it's upon the accordance and discretionary of the school procedures and district policy. But I'm not so sure that I know what the school procedure disciplinary action

140is. Is every school different or is there like a template of this disciplinary action? Madam Chair, trustes I I wouldn't say that every school is different necessarily, but certainly every school has sort of a disciplinary matrix that is outlined in the student handbook and things like that. Um I'm I I know that say for at Larry High School, you know, certainly that violations of the cell phone policy that is currently in place at Larry High School does have disciplinary ramifications for a student. Yeah, >> I do appreciate um bringing that to the board just for initial approval. I think it elevates it. It brings it to the attention of people who are paying attention to the work that we do. And I do appreciate that the policy gives the flexibility to each school to um

141outline the specifics of what their policy will be. And I'm wondering what kind of participation you had from teachers or administrators in the drafting of this policy. Madam chair, trustes, we did not consult teachers or administrators in the drafting of this policy um with the idea that they would be doing their own school level policies. Um, and uh, ultimately they're sort of the I guess the board is ultimately the arbiter of what is going to be allowed to happen, but they're the ones who are going to be drafting their school level policies. Um, and as far as the inclusion of um, the board approving that, I think you can you can thank Trusty Sorenson and Trusty Martin for that. Yeah, Trusty Swans say very quickly that the state used the word policy that the district

142would each have a policy about cell phones. The only the only entity that can have policies is the board. And so here is our policy. What you see in handbooks are are the school guidelines. That's that's what they do. But the policy says you'll have that and we have met the the letter of the law. I guess it's I'll be secondly I will say this is the first time they haven't told us what to say. They've told us that we'll have it but they haven't told us and this is what it looks like. >> Don't say that too loudly. >> Thank you for the work on this. Any other questions or comments? >> We also have to give a copy to the state superintendent as per statute. Jesse Murphy, >> I guess I I am

143curious. Um, th this what we're looking at is what we would give to the state superintendent. Even if we approve all of these other school level, that's not going to be like part of a package. This is the policy. >> This is the policy. That's what we send. >> Okay. Yeah. Um, and I I appreciate too that the um that we written this in a way that gives schools um the flexibility. I think away for the day has worked well at Laramie Middle School. Um I've been happy to see what Laramie High School has been doing and it looks different as it should, right? I think each school can decide what makes the most sense. So I appreciate that that flexibility was written into it. Thanks. >> Any other questions or comments? >> All right.

144All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Next up, executive session. Can I please have a motion? Madame Chair, I move that the board adjourn into executive session pursuant to real estate and student discipline. >> Second. We moved and seconded. Just real quick before we adjourn to executive session, I'd like to note for those watching via live stream, even though it's not on live stream, the house will now pause until the board returns from executive session and we will take action upon reconvening and we'll adjourn the meeting. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Opposed? We are Heat. Heat. >> [music] [music] >> Heat. Heat. Heat >> [music] [music] >> up here. [music] Heat. Heat. [music] >> [music] [music] >> Heat. Heat. [music] Heat. Heat. [music] [music] Heat.

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151I. >> Opposed. >> Motion passes. May please have an amendment on item B, stipulated agreement B. Madame Chair, I move that the board approve stipulated agreement B as presented. >> Second. Moved >> and seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Motion passes. All right. Now, item C, consideration of offer to purchase property. May I please have a motion >> to the district? Second. >> Moved and seconded. Any question or discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> I. >> Motion passes. We're adjourned. >> Say no.