001Uh, I will call this regular meeting of the Teton County School Board number one to order at uh 6:03 p.m. on May 13th, 2026. Let's pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty [clears throat] and justice for all. >> All right. Uh let's see. Uh Trusty me, would you like to read something off the mission, vision, and value statement? >> Yes. Uh the vision statement of the Teton County School District number one is as a premier district, our vision is to ensure every student is prepared to succeed in an everchanging world. [clears throat] >> Thank you. Uh next we move on to approval of agenda. >> Senator, I move to approve the May
00213, 2026 regular meeting agenda. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries. Um, let's see. Before we get into the superintendent's report, I just want to acknowledge that uh, Trustee Scarlet is online and he um, he had mentioned to me since it's gets sort of confusing with the voting and the stop yet. If for some reason he was voting no, he will say nay. [laughter] So may and I think maybe that should become regular practice because you know sometimes >> there's always that lag. You always think the person's voting no and they're not. >> Yeah. Exactly. [clears throat] Um let's see. We'll move on to the superintendent report. Uh Dr. Chris. >> Madam Chair, trustees. Um this evening we have um two celebrations. To start, um, I think it's [clears
003throat] important to recognize the outstanding visual arts in TCSD. And I want to couple that with visual and performing arts because we have a uh, production this Friday and Saturday as well at the theater, high school musical. But the arts are a department in our district that we take great pride in, especially in Teton County with our arts community. Uh tonight I've invited Hannah Han and Shannon Berago um to speak to trustees around state art. State art is something that happens annually in our state. It is an amazing event. Some of the best artists in our schools. Um when I had the privilege to be principal of the high school, it was one of my favorite events to support. And so we have Shannon and Hannah to talk to us about what state art is.
004And we also have some students that will be joining. So please come forward. All right. Thank you very much for this opportunity um and for the opportunity to celebrate uh some of the young artists in Teton County and across all of Wyoming. Uh the Wyoming State Art Symposium, if you don't know what it is, um it is in its 508th year of honoring students from across the state while showcasing their creativity and their talent. Wyoming is the only state in the nation to host such an inclusive and unique event. And this long-standing tradition is open to all high schools throughout the state. This year's symposium included about 68 high schools, featured almost 5,000 pieces of artwork. It was like 4,98 uh4 of both 2D and 3D works. The symposium is an art teacher administered event.
005Um, as well as the teachers are volunteers organizing the symposium, overseeing all the student activities and presenting awards and scholarships to create a highly meaningful student experience. Um, teachers also donate their work to help fund the event and support the scholarships. While in Casper, our school also takes the opportunity. Sorry, I don't know if I mentioned that. It's held in Casper at the event center. Um, while in Casper, our school also takes the opportunity to visit uh the Nikolai Art Museum, a 321 Gallery, and Casper College, providing enriching experiences by exposing students to professional arts and um future educational opportunities. Um, and in fact, one of our students plans to attend Casper College this fall because of that visit that we got to experience there. Uh the symposium provides students with the opportunity to showcase
006their artwork, receive recognition at multiple levels. And Shannon's going to speak uh about that and elaborate further. Um beyond the recognition, the event highlights creativity, builds connections, and inspires both students and teachers alike. Um I'm going to say thank you as well. And um just the celebration of the arts is so is an important part of it. I'm gonna kind of maybe go off this, but also go off script and jump ahead and say, "Come to our event next Monday, the opening," because all of the things we put on for these guys in terms of hanging their work everywhere. It's really, really powerful when people show up and see what they do. Um, so we had 20 students join us and actually Diana didn't go to this year, but you went last year and Zadeie
007and Alice were able to turn her around. >> She was going to talk about him in a second. >> Okay. [laughter] surprise. Uh we had so we had 20 students that went with us. It's about how many of you take each year um and represented in the artworks that we take because you don't have to participate as a student. You can just send your work. We had about 130 students that sent work. Um 160 individual There we are. >> There he is. >> Individual works representing all classes. um ceramics, Photoshop, all the levels of the classes. Um in addition to the 59 works that received blue ribbons, so each work is um there's a a jury that goes around the first evening we're there and each juror has 14 um ribbons to give during the
008showcase. I think about 20% of this the works are% >> um and we had 59 blue ribbons. student received top honors in all the other areas as well. So Ryan Flanigan for this piece here received a very special honor that's a congressional selection. Um, this is called Point of Pressure and it there's a 2D and a 3D area that um they they pull 25 2D works from the show and 25 3D works and those are the top honors in the show and then each year that's how we select as a state. Wyoming selects the piece that goes to Washington DC. Um, we had one sent I think in 2020 >> 2020. Um, but another honor, she's not here tonight was Ruth Dornan. um point of pre or sorry hers was wrangling and she did a
009a watercolor mono print which I don't have represented here. It is going to be >> it's going to be in the governor's mansion >> governor's mansion. >> So um so that's another one that was really exciting. And Diana here had she received there was a there was a new um contest this year that was for the 250th and Diana received third place in that which was a monetary award. So, that was a huge honor for her. Um, and she just received notice two days ago. This is actually part of a um larger competition that she's entered called Unsung Heroes. And I'm going to have her speak to that, but that's a that's for a cash award of $6,000. So, she is uh 129 students were selected from high school, right? From >> like 16 other
010countries. >> Wow. Um, yeah, there were a lot of entrance, so it's a very big honor. And I didn't know if you want to pass that around because it's really hard to see the details and do you want to share a little bit about what you're going to share a little bit about your experience with state art and >> um maybe what you're going to take next year. >> So for next year, I'm planning to take this painting of my grandmother. This piece was made to like her in the way that I saw her that was just like as a strong like person and she was very like nurturing that's why I have like the symbolism with the flowers which represent her children. It's also very like I forgot the word but um it's also
011tied to her religion which she is a Catholic and that we like pray to like the Virgin Mary so that's also like what's inspired by but I'm hoping to take it next year for the art. >> Awesome. Thank you. Um who was next to us and Dallas >> and Dallas. Um, I went to state art. I didn't go, but one of my pieces went to state art freshman year. And I got a 3D congressional award. And originally why I came to the high school was to study help study art from these two teachers. And they've really helped me do that. And getting a professional my freshman year and then receiving blue ribbons every year since has really pushed me to like love my art and want to be better. and that's why I'm going to
012art school at TCU this next fall. And so it's been an awesome experience and it's really helped me just be confident and know that my work can be important to other people as well. >> Also, >> oh, I also um this year got a scholarship for $1,500 from um the committee and it was really an honor. >> Um I would sit up Sadly, I didn't have the opportunity to fail last year. But as someone who came into this school freshman year and grew up in Massachusetts, something like state art is an insane opportunity for like everyone in the whole state to basically come together and display things that they're proud of. Um, like she said, it helped it helped me gain some confidence in my art and also was very inspirational and we got to
013meet a lot of I got to meet a lot of new artists and talk to them and we had like very nice conversations while doing certain um workshops like print making and light drawing and it was just a very great exposure to all different forms of art that before because I didn't I haven't seen much sculpture related to art um to that extent and I was very excited to make ceramics in her class. >> Um this was my first year going to state art. It was really really cool. Um I had some pieces that went last year and one of them got blue ribbon. Um and it was just super cool because like I wasn't expecting to make such awesome connections with the people on the trip. Um, like I was good friends with a
014couple people, but I think the group as a whole like grew a lot closer. Um, and the inspiration from other works was really awesome. Um, I got to see some really cool 3D art that like we don't we don't really have a lot of [snorts] abstract sculptural art in Jackson. Um, so it was really cool to just like see some other high schoolers at Shar and gain a little perspective. >> Thank you. >> Do you guys have any questions about the experience or anything? >> What was everybody's names? >> Yeah, [laughter] [clears throat] >> I'm Eugene. >> I'm Dallas and >> we have two seniors and Alice and Eugene are seniors. Diana is a senior next year and Z to be a junior next year. And you said Monday night we were supposed to be
015somewhere where? >> Yeah, the public library. >> Public library. Okay. >> You'll see all the 4:30 to 5:30. That's there. And if you go to see the um High School Musical, >> it there's also all the work that went that didn't receive a ribbon, but just to like >> see the quality of that being submitted. >> It's really hard when you get there. The kids realize that they don't get a boo ribbon. They see the ones and they're like, why didn't the you know, and there's only so many that are given out. So, it's all exemplary, but out of 5,000 pieces, you are instructed to pick 14 in your life. >> It's wild. >> Thank you so much. Congratulations. [laughter] [clears throat] >> Uh, district leaders report. have one more celebration. >> Oh, one more
016celebration. So, sorry. >> Um, >> Madam Chair, just one more note about Mrs. Burggo and Hannah. They failed to mention and I don't know if Shannon has this number in her head, but there is a a number of adults in Teton County and Teton County over in Gregs that were graduates from Jacksonville High School that are professional artists in our community making a living. Um, and so I think it's important to acknowledge that. Um there it's quite quite a few and I can get a specific number for you but it's important to note. So thank you for that. Um second celebration is just to recognize the hard work of the education foundation and all the partners um that put together our scholarship night uh last month. Um over $1.3 million um was given away on
017that evening. attached in your uh board agenda is a one-page summary of some of the details of the night, but I'd really like to publicly thank everyone involved in that amazing night to recognize our students. >> Thank you. Because it really is amazing. [laughter] I was talking to somebody who was here representing an organization today and she, you know, she said she's continually blown away when they come to give away the award, how how generous our community is and how there are so many diverse um organizations giving money and so anyways, thank you. That's terrific. All right. Now, the district leaders report. Anybody have any questions? >> Trusty me. >> Um my question is for um the director of data, Stephen Frank. Uh my question was um you spoke about the science and math course
018delayed till until August. Um what about the um English language arts? Did you get those results? Uh we do have the ELA results right now. Um I'm going to give an update to the board um during the uh is it ed services update on >> not only the delays that we're going to have but then the assessment calendars coming over the next five years and then delays next year as well. >> sorry I got >> No, that's okay. I was ready for it. I was like I bet I'm going to get called up. But yes, we do have the ELA scores. Although we do have delays still in the writing scores coming back. They're saying it'll be up to 10 days for all of the scores to come in. All of the middle score uh
019scores look to have come in now, but we're still about 50 60 shy of the fifth grade scores coming in yet. So, keeping an eye on that. >> Thank you. >> Sort of like a preview. >> Madam Chair, Stephen, um I was wondering about much the same thing. I've read in the New York Times today that scores have fallen all over the United States in both math and English for the last decade. >> We have bucked that trend and we have actually been growing um with our scores since CO happened. >> I was hoping you'd get a chance to say that. >> Yes. Yes. We are doing phenomenally in that regard. We are uh recovering. I mean, we fully recovered within three years of where we were pre um COVID and we continue to grow
020up. We've had strong growth in ELA, strong growth um in math as well, and we hope to see that continue when results are released this year. >> They pinned the decline on two or three things. One was absenteeism, and I was wondering if you know if that's still a problem in our schools. >> Yes. And number two on cell phones and issuing laptops to students. >> Yeah, I did um do a study on that in terms of free um devices for all students to post devices. I didn't really see a huge impact in our own results based on pre versus post. Um but I wouldn't be surprised. You gave two. Was there a third? Well, they put laptops and cell phones in the same >> category. >> Social media category. Yeah. >> I have long
021said that social media has been um a detriment to education for sure. So >> yeah, I think we're addressing all of those things in our school system. Yes, I think our principles do a phenomenal job addressing those issues. Sorry. >> I I have questions but not for Mr. Craig. >> Okay. Thank you. [laughter] >> I won't take that personal. >> Go ahead. >> Um I guess maybe this would be directed to Dr. Chris. Well, first I want to point out um once again um he's going to start thinking he's my favorite or something, but I got to say uh Matt's uh dance floor party and neon themed dance and activities um is awesome. I mean, I think that anything to um get young kids, especially at the middle school, uh involved and excited or at
022least motivated and taking YTOP is um I I I just think it's a great idea. So, I really wanted to point that out. Um you're not my favorite though, Matt. Okay, [clears throat] just to be clear, but you're doing a great job at the middle school with these things. Um the uh I guess Dr. Crisp I would ask is is you know we have and we're seeing these different programs being implemented. Um I'm going to come back to where I kind of started when I first sat here which is what are we looking at and how can we see and judge and and ex at least evaluate how these things are working or if they're working or or things of that nature. Um, scores are one thing, but are there other metrics? Some people will
023cringe when I say that word, but what can we start reviewing to see if some of the things that Mr. Holshire, Principal Holshire is doing or other elementary school principles are doing and how they're working? >> Madam Chair, trust Bosch, that's that is a um excellent question. the the part of the question I'm going to answer first or try to is additional metrics. So um as our trustees know and our public knows especially our principles and teachers we are very focused on our state assessments across the board. We know why it is important. It gives us a good measure of where we are. However, I would say we have to as a district determine additional metrics that really show what the whole child can do. And when I say that, I say that from the
024standpoint of you can be an excellent reader and an excellent mathematician, which we want. I don't want to minimize that. But we have to look also at the life skills kids are learning that cut across content areas that really count when they leave our district. And I say this from from for example, if we are producing students who leave our district and go to higher education or the workforce and cannot work as a team, who cannot critically think or problem solve, I can tell you they are going to have a difficult time getting employed. And I feel like these are some metrics that [snorts] we can do a better job of showing the whole child. and we're working on that with our portrait of a graduate work. In terms of an evaluation of how these
025programs are doing, we uh will be bringing forth um an early fall during our school improvement review what we've done and some measurements to show the board and where we're going. So that will be the time we'll have a pretty thorough comprehensive review of where schools are in terms of achievement in relationship to the programs that we've implemented whether it's evidence-based grading whether it's AVIT programs um AP programs we'll be able to share some of that data with the trustees probably early fall when it comes in um YOP I believe if I'm I think I'm accurate is a little delayed in terms of getting our results or we'll have that for you in late summer, early fall. >> Um, I will be very interested in seeing what we're doing along the lines as well as
026the additional things like the surveys of how the students are feeling, if we're keeping track of how that's working. Uh there's also I think there used to be data that we got or received maybe other trustees know that showed for example how our kids performed uh post graduation from high school meaning how many years did they take if they went to a post-secary education to graduate I think there was some data that I don't think we get anymore >> yes madam chair trusty botch that's another data source um we uh subscribed what they call the national clearing house data set. The national clearing house data set um has pros and cons. It does allow us to track students um GPA and a completion whether it be a four-year completion, five or six, and then it
027fades out after six, which is interesting. It took me about seven or eight, but after six. So, at that point, so the National Aquarium House is robust data. It is it's pretty dialed. The negative of it is it's very self-reporting. Um students have to agree to self-report in the national clearing house. So it doesn't give us the full scope of how a kid does in postsecary. It has been a struggle and we are not alone understanding how kids do when they leave us because at that point being post 1819 it becomes an issue if they opt in to tell us how they're doing versus us being able to track them legitimately. When you add a private school layer on that from a postsecondary lens it's even more difficult because some of those schools opt out
028of all those systems unless the student opts in. We do have national clearing house data. we can include that in our data share out just so we have another source to look at as well. I I just I I would like to see more than one source because I I believe this I think several folks do, but relying on just one metric is not the way to go. But I would like to see if we can how um these things that we're trying to implement that you've been behind I think we all support and just okay how are they working >> and it is not definitive but uh the more that you guys can come up at least for me I I won't speak for anybody else but a plan that can show us so
029that we can see hey how are these things progressing and I come back to um my my comments with regards to even the teacher survey, you know, what's the plan to address some of these deficiencies and what are we doing and let's keep track of this so we can see are we taking steps that can improve all that. >> Thank you Dor. >> Um I also have praise for Matt Holshire and the middle school. [laughter] >> It is night. I'm very excited about the three new courses that you're putting on to help the um gifted program. I think that's where it'll land. The Fab Lab, the great book seminar, and the creative writing course because the same article went on to say that only in the single digits are high school kids reading for pleasure.
030It's something like 2% of the nation is reading for pleasure now. And so extra chance to do reading on their own to get addicted to reading rather than screens really difficult. Thanks a lot. >> Yeah, thank you. Um a similar article that I think majority of college freshmen don't actually read a full length novel. Yeah. >> As a former English teacher full >> um well yes I continue to thank you because Biz has read a full length novel before she went to college and it's all because of y'all. [laughter] >> Um anybody else? Um I just had a question for Miss Beck. What time is the uh Missoula le children's theater le production tomorrow? >> It starts at 1:15 and it's on Friday. >> It's on Friday. Yeah, tomorrow is Thursday. Okay, perfect. Friday 1:15.
031Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Madam Chair. Um Jenna, also I have a question for you. You said that you had uh uh had kinder introduction. How many kinders do you >> Oh, so far >> four. >> We have four coming. We have one that's in our in the exception process. So, we'll see how that little guy does. We have four right now. >> We do have last year. >> Five. >> This. >> Yeah. We usually get one in August as well. Um, something that was interesting this year is that the parents of the kindergarten, the incoming kindergarteners for next year were really concerned about afterare. So much so that they called Driggs Elementary School to see about their afterchool program. I happened to connect with that woman. And so we're working on
032a collaboration for our kids to be able to have afterare five days a week by joining that program. So >> that was a interesting thing that came about. >> Yeah. >> Out of a need. I'm sorry I won't be able to attend. You're about to really start. It's okay. >> Since you're up there, do you want to tell us about your tennis program? >> We have a tennis program and we had I think four or five um uh volunteers last week and this week and we are playing tennis at recess. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. >> So that's our tennis court >> and those are the new tennis courts the county put in the county park. >> Correct. >> That's right next to your school. >> Yeah. The border. Thank Mark Nukem in the back for
033providing those tennis courts to me. >> Thank you. Thank you. [laughter] >> Thank you. [snorts] [laughter] >> Matt Pure is your favorite. Mark Duke's my favorite. [laughter] >> He writes the checks. >> Um, anything else on district leaders? Madam Chair, just to um circle back to Trusty Me's question. Um right now Trusty Me, we're looking at this is on the low end. We have about 186 we're predicting coming in today. >> 186 kindergarteners. >> Anything else? >> Thank you. >> Seeing none, uh uh Trusty Scarlet, did you have any questions? >> I forgot to look up there. Okay. Um, and we'll move on to reports and items for discussion. Student school board member and I'm going to turn it over to Trusty Dornan before we turn it over to you all. Well, um, we've had
034a good year with you three and Georgia, too. And we really appreciate your dedication, your coming every week. um and the projects that you've put together. I don't know what's happening with um those drink bottles. [laughter] What has happened to your bottle drive? Maybe you can let us know. But we have Thank you for They'll come your way. Somebody's got >> one of those. >> Is it a troll? >> Louise, what is that thing sticking up? >> Oh, [laughter] what else is in >> there? Oh, hat. >> [laughter] >> Thank you very much. >> And um do you have any updates or reports on the um >> Yeah. >> We have to report on the law the bus bar thing. All 470 items have been published on there. >> We don't know how to make
035a public appearance yet. So But we had to go and me and I wanted to go sort it out and a lot of stuff. [laughter] We got all the pictures uploaded. We just need to make like sections for them. >> And then for the water bottle drive, um I know some of the bubbles have been put in the buckets, but they don't really know what to do next. I fix >> That's okay. We You'll come home from college and fix all [laughter] Well, thank you very much. Thank you for your dedication this year and um good luck with your future endeavors. We appreciate it. >> And is it AP testing? >> It is. >> So, um you're welcome to go study. [laughter] Uh we'll move on to fiscal management committee. >> Madame Chairman, >> yes,
036>> we met a week ago. We had the fun of going through the comp package that has been distributed to all staff and to you all. And then we also have the preliminary um budget. And then once Kristen goes through her thing, I'd like to come back and talk about um [clears throat] the schedule uh for next month. and then July for the budget hearing. >> Okay, >> director. >> Uh, thank you. We have this is our general fun um budget update. Nothing unusual here. Um, when we go to I'll just make note of the special education line here. This year our budget was 950,000. We're over budget a little bit right now. and those are the out of um district placements whether it's out of state or out of county um or even some
037that are local. Um the funding model changed for next year. So as we look at the preliminary budget, you'll see that site budget line decrease dramatically and that's because the state has changed the funding for those out of district placements where they're going to reimburse them in the year. So there will be some kind of a report that we can submit where we get reimbursement right away instead of having to wait till the following year for those. So that site budget does decrease pretty dramatically in the preliminary budget for next year. >> Uh any questions on the general fund budget? >> Trusty. >> Madam Chair Kristen. Um, so in the general budget, >> Mhm. >> there was a a line item for special ed that I was curious about because it showed a drop in
038our budgeting. And is that why? >> That's exactly what it is. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Um, that's the site budget. So the the site budget for special education will stay as is without those out of district placements. >> Okay. And then I don't know exactly what that WDE obviously is working on the guidance for that report and how we would account for those funds. Likely they'll be in special revenue funds. So they'll actually move from fund 10 to fund 20 is my guess, but they've surprised me sometimes with leaving it in fund 10. I don't know. Um yeah, we could go to the preliminary budget. I've also posted the fourth quarter 2025 WCLI update. Uh it shows another increase in our overall cost of living in Teton County. That's not surprising. Um again, reflecting
039back on that for just a moment, the the yin amendment that was included in the Wyoming legislation is is really what's going to protect us year-over-year between those recalibration cycles because there will still be an adjustment similar to the one we had before. It won't be quite as dramatic as what we had seen before, but we still will get those annual increases where everyone else in the state won't receive those because now they're stuck to that hydonic index um that will only be refreshed every 5 years if the legislature does it. >> Thank you. >> Uh this is our preliminary budget. Obviously, these numbers we won't actually get our um 100A which is the report from Wyoming Department of Education. That's what we typically use for budgeting in the spring. They don't plan to p
040publish that until late July, August. Um so best best guess here. Um I think I'm pretty close, but um hopefully they proved me right. Uh if you'll go down to the bottom, you'll see that our there's a couple of new lines here. Uh the retirement line. So that process has changed. down retirement will be a reimburseable expense through the state instead of um >> prior it was a little bit of a blend of a reimbursement and an additional report that we had to file. We have we still don't know exactly how this money is going to come to us. There will be some additional reporting I think on a monthly basis. We don't know what that looks like yet. And then this bed reimbursement will remain the same. The insurance funding they're really still trying
041to figure out. um they want us to get away from saying that it's a reimbursement because it's not a reimbursement. They're going to fund us for a certain amount of employees. Still waiting on what that reporting will look like. I I think that these reports will be due in August. Uh but we don't know yet. Okay, you can go to the next page. So this is our general fund um proposed budget. I you know this is very preliminary. It's a very preliminary budget. as we work through it and start to finalize some of these details. Uh some of these numbers will change. You see the big drop in the special education budget there. Um and then uh I initially had proposed a small reduction in site budgets. Uh when we reviewed this at finance committee,
042there was u some some comments about being concerned about what that looks like and why. So we are still working on the site budgets and how to refine those. The other big one is um as you as you all know we did um hear from the Stargazers group and the impact that those tutors have on our students both in Summit High School and middle school. Uh that contract is not reflected here but we would like to include that in the site budgets for those schools because it's an essential piece of student success. So um those are some changes I anticipate making moving forward. Um, but this is this is it for right now. And then if you'll go all the way to the bottom of this. So currently, uh, we're showing a deficit between revenue
043and expenditures of about 193,942. Um, that number will change. It may increase slightly. Uh, we have a couple of ways we can make up that deficit. Obviously, cash reserves. Uh I also anticipate to have a conversation at finance committee in June about the pre97 reserves. We talked about that a little bit last month. Um what to do with that, how we want to treat that. Um you know that could offset the deficit here. We have about $2 million in pre97 reserves. So any questions on next year's budget? Kristen, just to jump in, in re-calibration, the pre97 dollars have been put on a two-year lifeline to use it or lose it, even though it's our money, and that's one of the impacts that we need to look at going forward. I I believe that's correct, right,
044Kristen? >> Um, I believe so. But the tricky part about that is that so if we wanted to take the pre97 reserves and move it to a depreciation reserve like the capa capacity suitability and housing fund, we would have to do that before June 30th because the new law about depreciation reserve transfers from the general fund does take effect on July 1. So if that's something that we want to do, we would need to make sure that that money gets moved before June 30th. So we'd vote on it in June. Let's discuss it. >> Okay. >> Can I just repeat what I just heard? Okay. We have the pre97 money. >> It's sitting there. We've always had it. >> What? So, Bill first said we got to hurry and spend it because there's two years.
045You're telling us we want to move it over to the account for housing. We need to do that before the end of this year. >> But if we don't move it, we need to spend it within the next two years. I I think if there's a plan to spend it, we would need to spend it next year. I I I will have to look that up and make sure that the two years is Bill. I just don't know about that. Um >> my only worry is housing. Can we get it back out of housing if we need it? Once it's in the housing, it's there. >> There there's a couple. Correct. Once we move it to the depreciation reserve, we cannot move it back into the general fund. There's a couple of options. Um, we
046could move it into our insurance fund. Um, we have that fund over there that is it's really employee money. Um, that's one way we could do it. There we have a couple of other ideas that um we could distribute it. Uh I you know I I don't know it's a >> to the board of trustees [laughter] >> as part of you all work you definitely deserve it but no sorry we can't pay you [laughter] >> what was your >> trusty mean we'll just go down the >> well I I have a question first um chairman Garland uh and Kristen how much do we have in reserves at this time >> aside from let's take out the pre97 2 million >> um I believe I would have to reflect back on our audit but I think
047it was closer to 5 million this year in our fiscal year 25 audit. It's a hard number to measure when it's because everything in our district is cashbased um except for the reserve when we report it to WDE. Um, so it's that number in the audit that we're measured by. And I believe that was at 5 million this past year. I'd have to double check it. >> Great. Um, so this 2 million is on top of that. >> No, it's in that number. >> It's in the five. So then we'd end up with three, which was is less than six months of >> or probably less than two months. >> It is absolutely less than two months. I will I will say the legislature has we have a a two-year sunset on the 30% maybe
048that's only one more year of the 30% of your foundation guarantee is what you can hold in cash reserves. It the legislature this year in recalibration um became very um familiar with calling that a cash carryover instead of a cash reserve. >> They don't want us holding cash reserve. Um the belief I think as a whole is that when they fund public schools, they want us to spend that money on the education. They don't want us to hold it. Um one of the changes they've made, which is a positive, if you're a recapture district and you apply for that cash flow loan, um they were pretty clear with WDE that that shouldn't be denied and we've been denied the last two years. I testified to that during the committee meeting. Um and then you can
049apply for that any time in the year. So, it does alleviate. We've always used that cash reserve or cash carryover to cash flow the district, especially in the fall because we don't receive property tax payments until November. So, the months of September, October, November get really tight for us. Um, we that's why we apply for that cash flow loan. Now that they've changed the way that we can do that and that we can apply for that cash flow loan all throughout the year, I think their interpretation or their stance is that well now we've made it easy for you to apply for the cash flow loan. So you definitely don't need to hold anything in cash reserve at all anymore. So I've even heard them talk about reducing it even below the 15%. I don't
050know that that will fly. I think it will settle around 20% somewhere. Here's one of my concerns is you know um like read I've been reading the New York Times and you know our demographics in the United States we've lost 4,000 kids in Wyoming no yeah 4,000 kids in the last maybe 10 years out of schools so if our ADM follows the loss of kids we don't want to be in a situation where we also don't have any money to hold on to those teachers teachers that, you know, strictly strictly interpreting what the what the state has done, we'd have to let go. >> And I really hate that idea. Um hopefully you could switch people around. But the fact is, if you don't have any money, >> you know, it's like at home if
051your car breaks down, you know, stuff happens like that. And while the state has been um I think more than generous uh when a roof came in from snow and getting us back up, you know, it' be a lot nicer if we had a a cash reserve that we could tap into immediately so we didn't have to wait for all the, you know, stuff that goes into getting the state to give you money. >> Yeah, >> that's my concern. I agree with that and I I I think some of the smaller districts even with the new sped uh reimbursement for outofd district placements they're really struggling with well that's great that we can apply for it right away but what's the time turnaround like is it going to take you three months to pay us
052because we can't cash flow that as a small district >> right and transportation same >> yep um the other the other piece of that too is if we transferred it to that insurance account we can transfer back to the general fund like we could do that. >> Um it's one of the only ones that we can do that with >> but it is not teacher money as it stands. >> That $1 million is >> you know I pre this funding model. So you know there I don't know if this specific piece will be litigated. I can't imagine that it won't with some of the bigger districts that have millions and millions and millions of dollars in their pre97 reserves. Um the state and WDE has not been able to put forward a report that shows
053what every district has in pre97. They don't know what the number is. >> Um we have [laughter] >> Well, >> don't tell them. >> That's right. >> Well, we've had to put it on a report. [laughter] It's for as long as I've been here until the last two years. So, I don't know how they don't have this number. Um I don't know. That's mine. [snorts] >> Right. >> So, your opinion is that we don't have to decide this at the June meeting. >> I I think that we should Well, we have to decide if we're going to move it out of the general fund at the June meeting. >> Okay. um whatever that ends up being. But I'd love to bring it forward to finance committee and have that conversation and figure out what kind
054of ideas we might have for it and then um bring back >> we should wait for a recommendation from Jerry Stefan and Bill. >> I think so. >> Okay. >> Could we put it in a building fund for the Bron Achievement Center? >> We could transfer it to capacity suitability and housing, but then you can't bring it back. U Trusty Dornish. >> Uh yeah, Kristen, I'm trying to understand this chart and I don't always understand all the numbers that come in. Um I'm looking at the revenue chart. >> Mhm. >> Not this one, but the other one. um you have we're taxed at 25 mills and we'll be taxed at the same rate in 27 and yet we're going to earn $4 million more. How does that work? Well, it's based on the assessed value
055in the county. So, if you go back to the top of that revenue page, >> you'll see um nope, the other one, the one you were just on, but the very top of it Um so you'll see in the fiscal year 25 um that our 25 mills was 101 million uh you see that decrease in fiscal year 26 and that's because of the property tax legislation that the state passed reducing property taxes in in certain groups. So if you've lived in Wyoming for a certain amount of time, etc., etc., >> and then um the the explained increase to this year would be that our assessed value has increased. Um these numbers do not necessarily reflect our most recent assessed value. What I do is I take the budget tool that WDE sent out and I
056net out the numbers that are in blue highlighted in gray. Those all have to get to what our foundation guarantee is. So they're netted out here. By the time we see this budget in June, those will be much more solid numbers. But really, it's just trying to get to the number that's going to feed. If you go down, we have the 25 mills, the vehicle fees, penalties, and interest, and then we have the six mills below. Keep going. >> Okay, good. And a couple more questions. >> What kind of payments would we ever make to the foundation? >> What do you mean? Well, you have it as a line item and I didn't know why >> in the revenue. >> Uhhuh. >> Oh, foundation entitlement. >> I thought it was education foundation. >> Oh, this
057is our foundation entitlement. That's what they that's what they call the um foundation program, our funding model for the state. >> Um so foundation entitlement on a revenue line would be if we're an entitlement district. We're not. We're a recapture district, but at one time we were an entitlement district, which is why it's on. >> Got it. Okay. And one other question. How do we have $46,000 and or no, more than that, $960,000 in outofstate tuition? Do we have that many students coming in paying out of state? >> It should be 601 607. Um, so the budget number for next year 607. Those are the the students. You'll see that on the revenue line and then you'll see it in the expenditure sheet as well. Those are our um Wyoming students. Typically when they graduate
058from Alta Elementary, they go to the Driggs Middle School and High School. And so the state funds us for those students because they're Wyoming students. >> Got it. >> They submit a bill to us, we pay it, we get reimbursed for it. So you'll see it as a revenue line and an expenditure line in our >> Seattle students. Yeah. >> Got it. Okay. Thanks. >> Trusty [snorts] B. >> Uh thank you, Madam Chair. Um I got to talk about interest. I mean I think Trusty me asked a question about well they're going to give us loans. I'm assuming there's interest on those loans. We earn interest on our money. We you know like how is this going to shake out with the new law? because on your budget at least here you have a significant
059decrease. >> Sure. >> Um almost a million dollars. And so um how is that going to shake out? You is there things that you're working on to uh move that money or do what we can to protect or continue to earn that interest or something similar to it? >> Sure. Um, so first question, follow-up question is who's willing to give us loans and who's charging us interest? >> No, I'm saying that the state says they'll give us a loan to cover our receivables. I'm assuming that that comes at a cost. >> It doesn't. There's no interest on the cash flow loans. >> Okay, good. >> Um, that's the the first question. The second question is when we bid out um it it's more than just interest. We get this question a lot. Could we maximize
060our interest? We absolutely could. Um before we did the request for proposal for banking partners, we were with Wells Fargo and while the interest was a decent rate with Wells Fargo, the fees that they were charging us were outrageous. And so one of the pieces that we put into the request for proposal when we went out for banking services was we want a competitive interest rate and we also want no fees on all of our accounts. Um we currently bank with J Bank of Jackson Hole. when they came in with their bid, I think we had five different banks that bid our services at that point. Um, they have zero fees. There was no other um bid that we received that had zero fees on everything as well as a competitive interest rate. And the
061interest rates that the other banks were proposing were great. They were this not the same, but they were competitive with that bid. Um, but it was really the fees that that swung the [clears throat] deal. Um, and we had a committee that re reviewed all of that. I think that was five years ago. As you can imagine, changing banks is a massive undertaking for the school district. We have I 10, 12, 15 bank accounts. I I should probably count them up and know that number in my head. Um, but we have several funds. We have we have a great relationship with our current um partner. They just donated $225,000 to our scoreboard um on top of being a great partner for us. So, while I believe in in bidding out our services, um it's not
062the banking one is a little bit harder because it is a huge lift to change. If we were to change, um we could go through that process again. Uh it's it's not an easy process and it's not an easy change. >> So uh I appreciate that answer. Excuse sorry, Madam Chair. I appreciate that answer. That wasn't really what I was trying to get at, but thank you because you and I have discussed that at least briefly before >> and I do think that um five years at least in my opinion um based on what you've said might be a time to look at that, but I'll leave that for debate for another day. I'm more interested in the legislative changes that are being as far as what interest we can um keep is maybe the
063way to say it. And so how is that going to be impacted >> um and why do we have this substantial drop off of almost a million dollars in interest? >> So the legislative change well um the first reason would be that in interest rates have decreased. Um the second reason is that the legislature now will be taking 50% of the interest at least in the general fund. WDE in their most recent interpretation of that is that they were going to take 50% from all funds with the district. Um the business manager group has pushed back very strongly on that interpretation of the legislation. Um, as you know, fund 20, those are restricted funds, oftentimes federal funds, not the state's money. Um, not entitled to interest there. Um, we have, you know, wreck district, they
064would be coming in and taking half of the wreck district interest, which doesn't make any sense at all. That's not that's taxpayer money really. Um, so again, WDE is still working on the interpretation of that. Definitely in the general fund they're going to take 50% of our interest. That's why you see that number come down. >> So is there thoughts or ideas to explore that we should explore on ways to um place funds and accounts that like keeping the funds in the rec district instead of transferring it to the general fund. that um at least from a strategic standpoint might serve that district better at that time versus some of these other things. Does that >> Yep. We don't transfer rec district funds into the general funds. When we pay the school district for their
065application, they go into fund 20 which is a special revenue fund. >> We don't transfer any funds from any other source into the general fund. That is all it is in there on its own. Um, we have discussed what some strategies could be. I don't think we've yet come across a legal one. Um, [laughter] but >> so far we haven't [laughter] come up [clears throat] with a viable solution. >> We are just crossing lines left, right? [laughter] [gasps] >> Um, maybe we should look at that. >> Sure. We did we did discuss it in finance committee last week. Um all of the ideas that I had um our resident banker treasurer um advised me that all of those were not legal. So um we'll keep thinking on it. >> And I mean I think that
066an interpretation of that new legislation is what we really need to kind of focus on and see where that's going to go. Correct. >> Absolutely. As soon as I get that in writing from WDE, we will be talking about it. Okay. But that number that's on there is reflected because of this new legislation. They're basically taking a million dollars from us. >> Well, I think they're taking half a million dollars. I think our a reasonable if I wasn't calculating for that, I'd probably be budgeting for about a million in interest next year. >> Gone or we >> Well, half a million will be gone from this. >> It's real money. >> Yeah, it's real money. >> That would fun debate. Uh, >> and trusty Gry did >> I got nothing. >> Okay, Trusty Scarlet. >>
067Um, I hope everybody got a chance to see the Wyoming High School Activity Association's press release that um, Dr. Chris sent out last week, followed up Monday, I believe, with the Cowboy State Daily article regarding activities funding. Part of this recalibration is a 25% cut to um the ADM per ADM funding for high school activities. Um that in combination with um I think principal Lieberman last month mentioned we're graduating 240 kids and our incoming freshman class is around 200 or 210 kids. So we're going to have a dedu a reduction in ADM. We've got an activity budget hole forming and next month in June we will be there will be a document placed in front of us where we approve the um activities um for the following school year. And I think we need to
068have a discussion about are we offering too many? Um and and if we are going to offer what we have, at what expense is that to our programming, our academic programming at the site level? Because at the end of the day, this is the little bit of the block grant that's left. Um I would propose that we uh that we look seriously about the elimination of the last two activities that we added um in the last five years. Um both are uh expensive. Both of them have [clears throat] um four enrolled students. When I say enrolled students, students that are actively enrolled in Jackson Hole High School um participation um so softball and men's swimming. Um, I wanted to get this out in the public so they know that we have to take this serious
069look. Um the second thing and it's a motion that I'm very serious about making at the next month is that um Wyoming High School Activities Association rule um about uh ending activities um if a Wyoming High School Activity Association sponsored activity drops below six um active school participants, uh it is put on a two-year um uh probation period and then it's dropped immediately starting the third year. I would propose that if a activity does drop below the six schools that we have a motion in place that would actually end that activity uh at Jacksonville High School also um and that will give us some savings. um not easy stuff to uh to uh address. Taking things back, cutting things are tough, but um hopefully at FINCOM we can discuss that and so um we can
070move forward with those things. So on those that shiny note, um I'll stand for questions or we can look forward to discussing this at at the next month's meeting. Any questions for Trusty Scarlet? >> Trusty B. >> Yeah, thanks Madam Chair. I This was discussed at FIN Comp, so I'm um I agree that the legislation with Trusty Scarlet that the legislation is going to um put us in a a uh spot that if you read either of these articles that is going to be difficult um at best to address. And if you look at some of the recommendations that came out of the state committee, um the Wyoming High School Association, uh all I can say is that I disagree wholeheartedly, um with some of what they've said. Um but it is going to be
071something we obviously have to discuss. Um I might take a little different tack than Trusty Scarlet. Um but I will let the rest of the trustees know. I've asked for information that we've looked at in the past which is uh cost per student for various activities as well as how many students are participating in those activities and more importantly is how has uh participation in those activities been over the last 5 to 10 years. If it's an activity that is showing dwindling numbers um I am maybe more inclined to lean towards um eliminating that versus others. I don't know. We did look at this, Mr. Director Hansen has provided us with that information in the past. I think that we have to update it and look at it again. Um, also cost savings um in
072various areas um regarding equipment and um coaches and stuff like that will need to be discussed. Um I was shocked and surprised at how expensive some activities are versus others. Um, and so I think that we're going to have to I mean this this is just a a ridiculous unfortunate event that these folks in Cheyenne have decided to tell us what we can and can't do for our kids, but we're going to have to take a hard look at that. So I agree with Trusty Scarlet 100%. >> Thank you. Anybody else? >> Trusty me. Um thank you um Madame Chair. Also um you know I am concerned about the number of um school uh expenses that have been placed in the bucket of the rec district. So this year at the legislature the um rec
073W recck district funding came up and as it stands right now we as board members determine whether we asked um our voters in Ton County Burke a mill levy for the right district. The legislation that came up, which was narrowly defeated, was that that those uh asks will have to go out to the general public to determine whether to uh give the school district a rec district mill levy. Now, you know, I I'm very pretty confident that in Tong County that would pass, but it involves putting on a an election and which is very difficult, very complicated and you know unfortunately really takes our eye off the ball. Our eye should be on the ball of the best academic success we can get in our kids um not necessarily you know trying to um manage
074how to deal with um activities quite frankly in my opinion um I'm with agreement with um Mr. Scarlet with regards to um if we have to drop uh any activities it would be the most recently approved and you know I voted to approve those um activities but we already spend in excess of 200,000 closer to 300,000 >> on activities in excess of what the state gives us. Oh, sure. Um that I think this year, last year we broke even with theou money that was coming in from the um private schools. This year I've not yet done an analysis on it. It we probably will have a bit of a deficit because we did increase coaching salaries last year. Um so I c I am happy to do an analysis and see where we land this
075year and report back. That would be good because if they take 25% off what they already provide us per student for activities, that would be a big hit and that will only add to what we already take out of our general fund budget to use for activities. >> Yeah. And I, you know, in addition, I don't know that we've really talked about this publicly, but because it came up in last month's meeting, the gifted and talented f u funding in schools was also reduced from $42 per student to 25. Um, so they they made these little cuts that didn't seem like a big deal, but overall the picture just got smaller in those other buckets while the teacher funding increased. >> Yeah. The 12% that we have left. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Anybody else?
076>> Trusty Scarlet, you said something about the July meeting. Were you Was there something you wanted to share about that? >> Oh, July meeting is just our annual budget hearing where we approve the budget for the next school year. >> Okay. And so, so we have June meeting, we make these decisions of the high school activities association, then we move into July where we put all the pieces of the comp plan um and then in the budget and then we approve that in the uh budget hearing. >> Thank you. Anything else financial reporting? [clears throat] Thank you very much. Thank you, Trustees Garland. Thank you, Director Mayo. Uh, let me get back to my agenda. Uh, now we'll move on to educational service committee. >> Good evening, Madame Chair, board of trustees, Megan FZ, director
077of educational services. Our committee met, our ed services committee met in April and our topic of discussion was AI um policy and guidance for TCSD and an update from the um AI task force um team that has been coming together to develop the guidance and approved tools and the AI continuum of use. Um provided in the summary is just that quick summary of the meeting we we had with our trustees and ED services. And then we also linked the um policy that's review tonight as the second read and we also have the continuum attached for you there that we did discuss with our team. And if there are additional information that you would like to share, um Dr. Jordan could share. Um Dr. Dr. Gingry [laughter] >> um Trusty Gingry and Trusty Me if you
078would like to share any additional information that we discussed from that meeting. >> Madam Chair, I don't because I wasn't there. >> [laughter] >> You were you were on Zoom. >> Anybody have anything they want to share? >> Or Dr. Chris, if you would like to add anything. >> Oh, not at this moment. >> Okay, great. All right, I'd like to give you an update on the assessment and accountability and what we've learned. So, we are not going to get our YTOP results until the end of September. Um, I will get the results September 14th to December 28th to go through and review everything, make sure everything is reported correctly. principles will then see that up to October 9th um under a confidential review of the accountability and then it's going to be publicly released
079on the week of October 12th. So it's going to be later this year um which may push back school improvement plans need to be put to the state. We're in another year of um waiting for results. Good news is that it's going to be two years that we're going to have to wait for results because we have a new vendor for our assessment system starting next year. We're moving from Cambium to Pearson. And because of the shift, they're going to have to do recalibrations, rescoring to a new vendor, which means we will not have any scores early next year. We will not see ELA, math, or science, and we're going to have to wait for all release. So again, it's probably going to push into the October range before we get results for the following
080year as well. >> Kids only go to high school for 12 years. I mean, [laughter] >> um, good news is that like we built our school improvement plans around alternative um, assessments this last year. It's not going to slow down our building of our school improvements. We are going to have those ready. Yes, we all want to know the results, especially with all the work we've done around math and science. these last years and we're working really hard to to continue that work. Um I will be super excited to share with you once we get those results on how we did. Um but there are going to be some delays in the next two years for results. Um yeah, >> I mean that will affect accountability because we're going to have to wait for the
081results for accountability. Um, again, this year it will be October 12th, the week there where they release those results. Um, I haven't been up given updates yet on how we're going to get results next year. I just know that they're going to be delayed and I'd expect around the same calendar um for that game. >> Why are they switching company? >> Uh, I was actually part of the team. Um, it's you have to decision. It's um they have to put an RFP every single time the contract runs out. So I think we've been with Cambium now it's either seven or nine years and it was up for um either ressigning with them or going with the new vendor. They showed up and we felt like they weren't prepared to actually sell the product. Pearson came
082in and was much better um in what they they brought to the plate. Um, I don't know how much I can say about that meeting, but like Cameium was at the bottom of the list when it came to the five vendors that we were looking at. >> Any other questions? >> Excellent. >> Thank you. >> I'll look forward to seeing the state when you have us. Yes. >> Anything? I would uh make make sure we have an opportunity for Enitra um to provide a summary around peak programming. This has been a topic that's come up several times and it's a very important topic in our district as we move forward and what we we've created for you the trustees to review. It's sort of a three-year snapshot um based off some requests on staffing little
083bit of history programs at each schools. Um, Anra has a long history of GT and PE programming in our district and I'd like to provide her an opportunity to give you a quick summary. >> Thank you, trustees. Madam Chair, I have to start with the good news because the last time I was up here and spoke to all of you, I talked about our testing that if a certain student did not make it in, I'd have to eat my shoe. I'm wearing both of them. I didn't have to eat them. [laughter] So, that's the good news. While it's good news, it also means it provides opportunities for more growth and more thinking of how we will manage services next year because next year, this year we had 112 students scattered over six class six schools
084and 39 classrooms. Next year we have not finished the third and fourth grade testing yet. Uh we will be doing that towards the end of the month. We're com we have completed second moving into third. Based on the trajectory of what we have had years past, we're looking at around 107 students for next year over seven schools, 40 classrooms. So I am so proud of the work that the peak teachers do based on what they have available. Um, we are an amazing program, but I know that our students could, you know, grow and explore even more given the correct number of resources. I I've been asked in the past by you all what I need and I have talked about a financial amount as well as staffing. Um, and I am still here to say
085staffing is one of the biggest issues for us in the elementary level. I certainly appreciate the middle school and I don't want Matt to think he's my favorite too, but um he is really making some changes at the middle school where we've had a deficit because we lost our peak teacher there. And so I'm super excited about the the tra the trajectory for the middle school and where we're going. I am excited for the elementary but you know that big racer um we still could be doing so much more with that. Um I stand for questions. >> Madam chair um Anra do we have a big program for one through three? >> We do not. We do um we do identification at the end of second grade. A lot of research shows that that the
086prior in kindergarten, first and the beginning of second developmental changes within students is so big that it's better to do it at the end of second grade. I see Madam Chairman shaking her head. She's our early childhood person. And so while we don't have an official peak program, that is one of the loads that our peak teachers take because a kindergarten a first grade teacher will come to them and say, "What do I do? I have this first grader reading at a third grade level help. Um, and we help as much as we can, but our hands are a little bit tied because of of what we are trying to cover. That actually was going to be my question because I I would feel remiss if I hadn't brought it up only because I had
087a conversation with a a family the other day, but just that their first grader is, you know, pulling way ahead in math and starting to get a little >> bored and they're a little concerned about that. And I so I was going to, you know, I >> to me I totally understand why there's not a beat program in in K through 2nd. I mean that seems inappropriate, but I was going to see what you did do if you had somebody that was sort of off the charts. >> For sure. And one thing too that I should should let you know is that um you know in our district there are very few people who have gifted and talented endorsements. Um and there are many universities that have done away with a gifted and talented endorsement
088program. So, with some of my other hats, I'm working with Central Wyoming College. We just filled out a template from um Professional Teaching Standards Board to propose a gifted and talented endorsement program through CWC here in Jackson. >> Good. That is that will be pivotal if we're able to do that because it's in that tier one educa tier one education in the classroom where if we can get those teachers to get have the skills that they need to help those children in tier tier one it will be huge. So I've got my fingers crossed and really hope that >> even even a lateral enrichment it doesn't have to be a full-blown program. >> Correct. In fact, I agree that really should not be pushed pushing them too far in reading and math in the early
089grades, but lateral enrichment is it'd be very um it it would help beef up the whole >> most definitely >> program for these kids. of the five courses that um we are proposing to PTSB, one of them is called um foundations of talent development and that's basically that looking at those K1 and two students that what can we be doing to build those skills those higher critical thinking skills and we all know here that we have a deficit for many of a population of our students who do not have life experiences that some of our other students have and so trying to equal that playing field for those students as well. So that's where we stand with the gifted and talented program. >> Nice to meet you. >> Hi Anitra. >> Hello. >> Good to
090see you. >> Thank you. >> Um I guess one of my questions was um first of all can you tell me what Lat Richmond is? Trusty D. >> It would be something like for a first grader a a project on NASA or where they can use the skills they have to learn something more about an allied topic and and kids love that kind of thing where they can learn more about the stars or going to into space or something like that. Yeah, >> they're sometimes called passion projects as well and it's just an opportunity for a kid to say, "This intrigues me and I want to take on my learning and and dig some more into it." >> Um, how many K5 schools do we have? >> We have seven. >> Seven and we have
091two FTE teachers. So, they're divided as you say two days a week at each school or >> Correct. They are e so there's the three big schools um and so each teacher is 04 at one of the largest so let's let's take Barb Sanchez for example she's sitting here she is point4 at Jackson Elementary4 at Munger Mountain and then 2 for outline Barb or Celeste Waller who is the other teacher is 2 at Coulter 2 at will point4 at Coulter 4 at Wilson and 2 at alta Um, this year we didn't have our friends in Moran, but next year we will. So, you know, I'm a I'm a data person. I like to think numbers. I like to look. And so, just to kind of give you a scenario of the kind of work that
092these ladies are doing, I took all of our gifted and talented numbers for the three big schools, Cra Jackson, and Munger Mountain. And right now we are at a ratio of one teacher to 43 and a2 students. I also then looked at EL and special ed. I know it's different categories. I know that I know that special ed is by law. I know that EL students have requirements that our kids do not. But just as we think about the numbers across the district um with the three bigger um elementary schools, it's a ratio in ELD of 1 to 27 and a2 and for special education it's 1 to 10. I'm not asking for those numbers. I am just saying let's give our gifted kids more of the attention and the resources is what I'm asking
093for. Well, the one of your um columns, one of your blogs said as part of the instructional specialist positions located at all schools, 10 to 20% of their role will be to support declaration of content standards for students through the PLC model. Can you translate that for me? >> I'd be happy [laughter] to. So, when when it comes to the PLC model, we have what do we want students to know and be able to do? How will we know when they get there? What if they don't get there? What a faith. We already zoomed past it. And so that work happens in PLC when the when the grade level teams get together, they look at their student data and they say, "Okay, we have this cohort that's struggling. We have this cohort that's right where
094they need to be. We have this cohort that are like totaling their thumbs and waiting for something more." And so that question four is not peak pullout services. that's for their curriculum within the classroom with um and so those instructional people that you're talking about they would help with culture for instance has a walk to where students who after they look at all that data the students who are struggling go to one teacher and they get what they need the students who are doing fine go to another teacher and it's not necessarily their classroom teacher those students who have already mastered they go to a third teacher so That's where those instructional people can fall and help us. Um, it is not peak services, but it is helping to make sure that a student regardless
095of whether they're a special educa, they, you know, qualified for special education or EL or peak, they're getting the opportunity to stretch their brain and learn a little more because they've demonstrated they've already mastered that content. Does that help? >> That helps. That helps. Um, I had another question with regards to the middle school. Um, so I don't know if you will answer this or Matt will. I love the idea about the three new courses, but my question is is that was unclear to me. Some of the language was that um there will be students recommended ex the extended courses will be on for students that are recommended for those courses. Does that mean that these three classes are going to be for kids with a twiddler of their thumbs who are bored? >> Um
096[laughter] trusty me. Um so the intro to Fab Lab class is for we sent that out to peak uh families only in fifth grade. Um in seventh and eighth grade that was um uh identified as >> we sent that >> great books. >> What's that? >> Great books literary. >> That one we sent to all families in current um sixth and seventh. So next year seventh and eighth graders um families can uh elect to take that class. Uh there is a gate to get into that. um it's not for everybody. Uh same with creative writing and the fab lab. Uh so there are gates into that. Uh we our gate is a little bit broader than just peak. Um you can get into that class without the label of get them counted. >> Thank you.
097And I think one thing that may have been confusing was I included in there the number of identified peak students in each of those three grade levels. Right. Just trying to say this is an extra opportunity for these students as well as others. On the math side of things, this year we did um um we do have advanced 67 math. Uh that's the first year we've done that this current year. Uh we have four sections of that um which is more numbers than we've ever had um of students qualifying for that advanced math which will put them on the either the algebra or geometry track within middle school on the math side of things. >> Um as a more general question um how many optional classes do middle schoolers get? Well, there's quite a few
098uh >> really I mean I I guess what my question needs to be refined somewhat is how many periods of day do they have and how many classes can they not necessarily how many classes there are but how much time do they have for optional classes? >> Sure. So our four core classes are you know science, math, ELA and social studies. Yeah. Um and then we have a seven period day. So they have three optional classes. Uh most students are going to take a Spanish or music um or both, >> right? >> Um we do offer French and eighth grade. Um and then you know the fine arts curriculum, the CTE, uh they can fill those other three classes. If they are in duel, um then they would take Spanish language arts and they'd only
099have two two choices. Yeah. >> Um and then we also have an advisory time um which is a 40-minute block per day where we cluster peak students uh into the same advisory um and so they're all together. >> Yeah, I remember it's kind of tight to take an additional class. >> It is just because the schedule >> it is um >> there's not much you can do about that. >> Mr. Abraham just asked me, hey, if if Jack takes this class next year, what does he have to drop? Um, and so there is choice that has to happen. >> And so the and these three classes that you're offering now are are simplest traces. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Great. Thank you, >> Rusty Bosch. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Just to follow up on
100what you said, um, I thought I understood that said that the Pete teacher was lost or gone at the middle school. Were you replacing that person? and >> the teacher um art um left last year. Um the peak students are still there. >> Okay. Are we >> we're trying to accommodate them? Were you trying to replace that or what are you doing just by committee or we what do you what's >> Well, the secondary um and this would follow students into high school is more around uh tracks that they can self- select um and choose the courses um taught by that certified teacher um for the enrichment of that class per se. And it just for a clarification for you, um, Barb has been out of the peak only positioned for how many years, Barb?
101>> I don't know. >> Yeah, >> she [laughter] because she went into computer science, but we had PE kids in her computer science. But as for when she used to do peak where she could do archaeology and those kind of things, that's been five, six years maybe. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, Madame Chair, um, Kristen, you mentioned that um the funding had changed uh for the funding from $42 to 28 >> 25. >> So, do you multiply that with all the students in the district or by the kids that are in the PE program? >> It's per our total ADM. So that's $78,000. Um, and you don't um charge the teachers against that amount. So the state's giving us 78,000 additional dollars to do this peak programming. How
102much can you determine how much that peak programming is costing us? >> Well, currently we have two teachers. that's going to be close to 350,000 by the time you include all of your salaries and benefits for the two peak teachers. They have a very small operational budget. Um but I think >> yeah like 20,000 >> it's very small. Um I think total like maybe the max we've spent in the last 5 years in any one year on peak programming is about 35,000. We have gradually tried to step that up. This is where the change from, you know, being a block grant, now we're on this restricted. Thankfully, the the gifted and talented funding um is in the silo. So, we have some flexibility within the silo with our with our teaching staff. And uh we
103try to stick to the model as closely as possible, but when something like this is important in the district, obviously that's been a priority in the past, which is why we spend more than we were funded for before. and we haven't proposed a change for that next year. We did um I am looking at the operational budget for the peak and I have been talking to director FAS about um what they can do in the curriculum budget and then the testing um and nature and I have been in conversations about what that site budget for gifted and talented needs to look like. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? All right, with that we'll move on to other reports. Thank you everybody. >> All right, Madam Chair, I'll get us started. Just [clears throat] wanted to
104remind trustees that we do have um three policies um that will be up for action in June. That includes our AI policy, our data and security policy, and cell phones and smartwatch policies. If um if you've had a chance, um I did make some edits to the student cell phone and smart device use policy based off feedback from um Trusty Me and Scarlet. Um I have added some language um open to feedback as we move forward um on medical uh use. Trusty Scarlet and also um language if we decide to not allow cell phones in the future. Um I think the original language was sort of led a user to believe that those would always be allowed. So there's some language there that gives us flexibility in the future if we want to make changes
105to some technology rules. Again, no action is needed tonight, but these will be action items. Thank you. >> Any questions? >> All right. Our next item on our other reports is a um conversation that we would like to move forward with with the board as a whole tonight. Um Mike Hansen and Charlotte are here to answer questions including myself on our master planning document. Now, this is a document that was put together to try to take all of the projects that have been discussed in the past uh several years, put them on one document for review, and then linked to that document are the comprehensive summaries that were put together um for each topic that were discussed in the workshop that we had a couple months ago. Um, and you can also see just in
106terms of organization, we added what's happening. You can see at the top in sort of a light pink, some of these are underway. Some of these items you'll see on uh some consent items tonight that have been discussed in previous meetings. And then in the green, you will see what we call sort of committee projects. These are projects that will require more of a team approach, trustee committee um approach. And then at the bottom um as you work your way down, you'll see future potential projects, some underway, and then conceptual long range projects. I think the purpose of tonight was to bring these forward to allow the trustees to have some um communication as as a team and to allow us to begin to uh uh think about what we want to prioritize moving forward
107in TCSD. Knowing these topics have been talked about extensively in the past, I thought it was a good opportunity to sort of refresh, put everything on one piece of paper and allow us to see kind of the state of the state. >> Thank you. >> Um I I was unsure how the board would want to, you know, bite this off. Um I don't know if we want to go down and discuss each project as we go down talk about ones that are important to us, ones that um I for me I think the Bron Achievement Center is something that we need to sort of talk about only because it's been that idea and topic has been around for a long time and it's changed significantly over the um years especially you know if you read
108the uh attached document to that. Um, does anybody have a preference on how we forward for this particular topic? >> Yes, trusty. >> I just wanted to really compliment the superintendent and Charlotte for putting this together. I think it's great. Put it all onto one page. It's easy to read. I actually like the groupings. The groupings are easy to understand. you know, these the ones underway. So, good with those. They're underway, you know. Uh, and I like how you showed us which ones are rec district, which ones are um I think that's a good title, committee projects, because they're involving multiple different entities. Um, I liked your list. Um, I didn't have any any great changes. I I think it'd be nice to go down and definitely talk about the Bronc Center, but um, I
109just wanted to say thank you. I I really appreciated the list. Well, let's maybe focus on the green because the purple are have and we just have the attached information which I think is super helpful. So, thank you. Um, starting with the Bron Achievement Center, um, I did hear some, you know, I, it certainly isn't the project that we introduced to the community when they voted in support of it at SPE, you know, on the SPE ballot. Um, >> are you talking about the most recent renditions that we kind of dejected? >> Yes, because because we, you know, we said that and I guess we need to, you know, because we um the Mercer study and working with the state um the suitability study, you know, to make our high school suitable for today's education.
110um we're doing an expansion versus you, you know, or an enhancement versus, you know, we were going to use the Bron Achievement Center to add those classrooms. Now we're not. So, it's gone from a pretty significant um and pretty cool building project to um gym with some bleachers. I mean, you know, in so >> um one of the >> Yeah, it's and so I I guess we have to decide what we want to do there and how we want to go forward because we can't get state funding for that. So that we would have to fund raise for that locally or however that works out. That's somebody else's, you know, strength. But um anyway um I think that because it's sort of in we have to figure out how we either make it really great
111or [clears throat] think about maybe that's not suddenly discord is going to take on >> just the game. >> I think it's helpful to remember some of the history. So, initially we had plan one come in and plan one sort of did a a sort of a mockup of the whole campus like there was an entry portal and where the parking was going to be throughout the campus and all the different things and this one actually started as it was a fieldhouse you know it was a fieldhouse it was four courts it was it was a time period where we were having lots of discussion about uh we didn't have any basketball courts Jackson youth basketball just kept coming in. They had nowhere to practice. Um, and so it was going to be four courts,
112volleyball, basketball, um, and then there was going to be a track up above and a wrestling room, I think is what it was, and and some locker rooms. And then once we got progressing a little bit further, it was, oh, we're actually going to move a lot of the CT out there. And so then by the time it got onto the SPE, I think a lot of people voted for it. And again, you don't know why people vote for things, but you got to go to the language of the SPE. A large part of the SPE language was about the educational aspect in particularly the CTE classrooms. As you said, the CTE classrooms are now getting built through the high school edition. It's not going to be part of the BAC. I think at some
113point a we probably need to go back to the voters before we even spend the 16 million and say, "Is this what you wanted us to spend the$16 million [clears throat] on?" Because I'm not sure we can proceed spending the money because we're not even doing what is there anymore. Not in a bad way. It just happened to be good. The state of Wyoming came through with a bunch of money for us. That's great. So, so things change, but I think we may need to go back to the voters, which is allowed. I mean, I think I gave the example last time. The county at one point had a pathway, ended up they didn't really need the money for that pathway. They found the money somewhere else. They put it back on the ballot, said,
114"Hey, voters, is it okay if we take the money that we're going to use for this pathway and apply it to a different pathway?" And the voters said yes. But again, it was voter approval. So, one thing I think is we have to go back to the voters and and ask what to do with that 16. Before we do that, which would probably be the next bet in 2028 or whatever it is, I think we need to come up with what do we want in this building? Because I think we're back to sort of the fieldhouse concept. What do we need in that fieldhouse? Is it still four quarts, a track above up above? It may be we don't want that track anymore because now there's a track at the rec center. that time when
115we were debating this, the rec center hadn't been built yet. So maybe we take the track away and now it's just courts or maybe it's something else. And so maybe it's engaging with the public about what would you like in this fieldhouse. You know, we've gotten a lot of pressure from uh some swim people wanting a swimming pool. You know, we had that conversation. We've had people with the tennis. Maybe that gets coordinated with building the the tennis uh uh structure over the current tennis courts or within this fieldhouse, whatever, whatever it is. But I almost think we need to have some workshops with the general public and say, "Hey, this was the Bron Achievement Center that we talked about. Probably not in a bad way, but we've moved in a new way. What would
116you like as a community? What would you like there?" Um I I I hesitate too much when I said the word community because I think we need to emphasize to everyone We're building a something fieldhouse or whatever you want to call it for the students and sometimes people see us as a community as building just for the community. I think we do both but I think the student has to come first. So is there some particular sport that really needs some resource? So maybe that's basketball or maybe it's volleyball. But I think we need to go back and bring some bunch of parents in, students, and say we need to start this this concept over and then whatever we come up with, take it back to the voter. Not only ask for can we apply
117the 16 million differently, but I think we're going to have to ask for more money and say >> how much more uh is this project or do we try to fit whatever this is, this new concept we come up with, do we try to fit it within that 16? The only reason I'm not that worried about this, the county hasn't even collected this money, right? >> So, it hasn't even been collected yet. So, it's not like the the money's sitting there and it's like burning a hole in my pocket. Um, it it's it's still to be collected. So, that was my suggestion for the Bron Achievement Center is to go back to the community and ask people and and ask staff and ask, you know, Charlotte and others as to what what what everybody's vision
118because I can remember when this first came to us. I can remember sitting here in plan one brought it and the whole conversation was about basketball volleyball. I don't know if that's still true if they still mean courts. I I don't know that. Um at the time it was. So >> that's >> Madam Chairy >> Trusty Gingry to me it seems like a great idea because we also have on this list stable golf facility, tennis facility and it may be that all these things can be included in the one um the one uh facility that you know the public comes up with or we may know learn from the public that we don't need a golf facility or you know the tennis people I'm sure they're never going to say we don't need a tennis
119[laughter] but I have hopes that they would cooperate with us u regardless of what they've said to the county commissioner or town council um you know with regards to whether we have this bigger bigger facility at least bigger than the one basketball court that we last saw that would be able to accommodate did a lot more [snorts] trusty Jordan or Bosch or Scarlet. Uh, Madam Chairman, I 100% agree with Trusty Gingry. Don't fall over your chair, Keith. That I 100% agree with you. [laughter] Um um I think we need to go back and reimagine this and and see what it would cost to encompass um the well more so the golf and the uh tennis facility um than the stable. I think the stable is a standalone deal out there that has merit. I I
120frankly if we're going to re reimagine the Bronc Achievement Center, that's going to that's going to absorb our bandwidth for the next two years as we uh go back to the voters to get this thing approved. So, I would drop the golf and the uh tennis off of our list and try to incorporate them into a new and improved Bron Achievement Center. And you all have heard me talk about the Gillette facility. Um that is very much um what I envisioned the Bron Achievement to see that included an ability to line tennis courts inside this facility. So there was an indoor facility for their kids to play tennis and um in poor weather. Um I also lined basketball courts. Um, and then they were able to pull the turf across for, uh, soccer, football, um,
121and dare I even say lacrosse, um, practices indoors, which were what I always envisioned, this was a multi-purpose for all the, uh, field and sport activities that are offered in Teton County. Um, I guess what I would say is if somebody wasn't here to understand the history and various maturations of [laughter] >> Okay. >> Um, I guess that uh what trustee Gingri has said um, you know, seems to make sense. I think that um if if this is going to be a facility that has um say basketball courts, then I do think um potentially repurposing other things or using them or doing has got to be part of that equation. Um I guess the big problem for me is I just without having some idea of cost I mean, it's a little hard to decide,
122you know, what's coming first, you know, the horse apart type deal. So, for me, I guess what I would say is is I I would um say that Keith's idea sounds good. I think that um having some discussions, I guess, with architects and where we're at or builders and where we're at with cost to get some idea. Uh, I do not like the idea of building what the last architects came in with, which was a, you know, pole shed basically, and they're going to play basketball inside. I mean, that's just ridiculous. U for that kind of money. I don't think and and I I wonder I truly wonder at this point in time if that is an accurate cost projection, if we need to revisit that and see what can be done. Um, as somebody
123that's seen a lot of gymnasiums throughout the state, um, you know, I'm not going to say that there's ones out there that will blow your socks off. I mean, I don't know, Mike's been to a lot of them. I'm not sure there's any that just like you go, "Oh my god, this is amazing." You know, um, there's some that are really nice, but there's a lot of them that are dated as well. So, I think anything we can do to upgrade uh the court situation, especially the backjstanding. Um, so I like Keith's idea, I guess. I would say is but I I think we need to put some numbers to it and get some idea before we start deciding on what's going to go in there or not come in there. >> What we were
124first looking at, we were looking at Evston. Anybody been to Evston's where when you go to a especially like eighth grade basketball or something, they can have four games going on all at the same time. And so when a bunch of schools come there for, you know, a small tournament at middle school level, you can have four games going on in the same building. U which is pretty amazing. Um it's nice having four courts at the time. That's what we kept talking about was having four courts that um were pra you know that that were practice courts and you could do both volleyball and basketball. >> I'm just saying that doesn't have to be the concept. That was the original concept when plan one came here and we started talking about this >> and at
125that time the numbers were 40ish million >> 40ish for that with four courts. >> Yeah. Well >> along with the classrooms and the train. Oh yeah, I was going to say >> so there was supposed to be state money that's combined >> because of combined. Yeah, that that I kind of understood and then when it changed I got that. >> I mean I I think that the four port idea is great. Um you know I don't know how many times we would >> need that and it also depends on what you're going to keep at the high school. >> So are you going to still have those two gyms plus additional or are you going to repurpose those? And if you're going to do that, then the question is is that then adds to that.
126So, it's just trying to figure out what you want to do. >> But I do think it would be [clears throat] nice. I think that it would be great for our students to have facility that um you know, is more representative of what we see in the other parts of the state. I mean, I can say that our gym, I think unequivocally, is the smallest I think so. Yeah. I mean, at our level, it is the smallest seating bleachers gym that exists. >> It seems to me, listening to all this, is that what we sort of need to do is step back and almost do a little bit of a needs assessment and gather information gathering. >> Um, just >> you've made a great point. the rec center was not complete. I'm not sure that
127JH indoor was complete when we made all these decisions. And so there was a huge need in our community and now those needs have changed a little bit. There there certainly are needs that need to be addressed. But I think maybe you know a needs assessment and some type of committee that had stakeholders committee maybe is the way to look and look at all those. You know I think um maybe talking about the stable a little bit. Um I think Trusty Scarlet was saying he felt like that needed to be a standalone um piece. it, you know, for me it I always sort of thought, oh, the st, you know, this I was sort of surprised by the stable and and that kind of thing when it first came up, but I do feel like
128um the fact that we do not have locker rooms at our main field is a problem. Um, that's really my only concern and would be support of the stable, but um I don't know what do other people >> I saw them as separate. I mean, I'll just I saw Bron Achievement Center over here mostly talking about I like your your wording needs assessment for what we need there courtwise. I saw stable as something different. I actually saw tennis as something different like a different conversation. Um the stable I I have always liked stable especially the part where someone was going to donate a lot of money. [laughter] Oh yeah, that was the part I really >> but I think part of that was um that the golf facility had to be in there. That that
129was one of the caveats I believe. >> And the stable is a place for horses or something. >> What is the >> changing clothes for the >> Oh, the team and we're calling the state >> sports training and Bronx learning extension. might want to think of a different [laughter] >> I'm not sure where that name came from. >> They were Bronx of course. It was cute. >> That'll go over well with female teams. [laughter] Anyway, [clears throat] >> yeah. Okay. I I >> was going to have locker rooms. It was going to have the golf facility and it was going to have a meeting. >> It was going to go right here. >> Okay. That's it was going to go right there. I think that's so >> so I I like >> you're not going
130to change there and walk all the way to a football, >> right? I like the idea of trying to find a way to move ahead with the stable with the golf facility, the blocker room, and the meeting room in there. You know, >> I don't really >> I am really against that. You know, it wasn't even R&D. Maybe it was Michael's idea, but uh you know, it was a so-called donor who needed to get it. Remember, >> I'm saying I'm for it if the donor is paying. >> Oh, good. >> Oh, that's all I'm saying. That's again that's not going to be state funded and so that has to be community funded however that is. >> Oh no I wasn't coming up with the >> and as far as the is I'm sorry but as
131far as the tennis is going I mean my understanding the tennis proposal would not take as much time and effort to do it versus trying to build the whole Bronx achievement center. So although I'd like to see it, I think that the tennis thing could >> and they were bringing the money. >> Yeah. They can be separate and done and that could be up a lot sooner. >> Yeah. putting up a bubble at least what I watched him do at the pines did not take that much time >> over the existing ones but from there I mean >> I mean that seems to be a lot more uh palatable and something that we could do and that area could be used for other things but as in that at that time the only thing I
132had concern was about public use of it parking and stuff like that but we can work that out but the rec the Bronx achievement center you know to To me, we need a it would be nice and we don't need but we it'd be nice to have a a better I mean when we travel we look I mean when people come here it's a joke compared to other places and it would just nice to have a gym even like Star Valley you know I mean that's not gigantic I mean but it would be nice to have something that better represents this this community and this >> if I'm understanding everyone everybody's good with the stable if we're not paying any of the money everybody's good with the tenants if we're not paying any of the
133money and it's on the existing site and the property center we need to do a needs assessment. >> Yes, >> I'm I'm Hold on. >> I'm not okay. [laughter] >> Um there's this thing called enhancements and the way that we get maintenance money going forward. Um this is all sounds fine and dandy, but we're not funded to keep these things up updated. Um, if we do a tennis, if the board decides to do tennis, we need some guarantees. And the way you do that is through an endowment so we can keep the expenses because we're not going to get utilities. We're not going to get uh sewer and water. We're none of that gets reimbursed by the state. So, we will be taking from academic resources to operate these things. It's the same problem we
134have with the Jackson Elementary gym because it's an enhancement. And so I mean as we go through this process in the Bron Achievement Center is 100% enhancement and that's what makes the rec district um dollars extremely important to this whole equation. Um having been on the board of Teton Pines and putting up and taking down those bubbles. They don't take put up and take down the bubble anymore. It's there year round >> because they found it was so expensive to take it down >> and then they'd have to maintain it and they'd have to store it and so the bubble isn't going to work out there. You're going to have to add in gas lines, sewer lines. Um it it's not an easy endeavor. Um and then the question will become after they take it
135up and put it down a couple of times if we just leave it up permanently. Um, with the stable, the thing that sells me about the stable is not the locker rooms, it's the testing facility. I don't think we have a good testing facility in our district. Um, and I think that's an interesting thing that we need. Um, even with our enhancements to the high school, I don't think that's going to um give us a good testing room. And maybe um, Principal Lieberman has an input on that. Um, as far as the golf facility, um, I think it can be part of the if we'd move forward with Bron Achievement Center, I think we could do that. Once again, it is an enhancement and we will we the depreciation expense and the utilities and the
136ongoing maintenance will become our responsibility. So, that's why I'm I'm hesitant on um I'm even hesitant on the Bron Achievement Center at this point because I just don't know how we're going to fund the ongoing operations of it if we build it >> suggestions. We are no further ahead. [laughter] Well, I'm sorry, Madam Chair. I guess what I see this is is it's part of what we've been discussing, which is we have to look at each one of these projects. It sounds like seems to be an agreement that they're separate. Maybe the tennis is different, but we have to look at them, assess the cost. I think what Trusty Scarlet raises is a great point. It's not just the cost of construction, it's ongoing cost. I would have I I didn't know that that wouldn't
137be eligible for state money some of these but we need to look into that of course and and continue to look at all this but I don't think that um >> Ben is right um so I I I think that we're on the same trajectory that trustee uh had offered but we just have to take into consideration obviously additional items and really look at that including increases your cost almost. So, >> and I get there's other I mean I get Judge Scarlet saying I was just asking if anybody was even interested in these. I mean, I just want to know if we continue having this convers because if we're not interested in doing the state, we'll just stop the conversation now. If we're not interested in doing tennis, let's stop the conversation now. But if
138if there's some interest in doing the tennis, let's talk about what Trustee Scarlet wants to do because, you know, the county has done this before where people have donated money to us. And what we always say at the county is um money to construct is the easiest money to get. Um it because it's onetime money, it's real easy for a donor to give it to you. Um we had a new uh uh playground uh build it. Mike Y Mike Yel and wonderful people just the nicest nicest couple um gave us that money. Um but you always have to build into it into your agreements some discussion as to we did it with the skate park. Um give us the money for the design then we'll let you look at the design, you approve the design,
139then give us the money for the construction upfront and then we build it. um something's and then you build in an endowment like hey this costs $8 million. You're actually going to need to raise $10 million and give us $2 million. It's going to go on an endowment that we're not going to touch the corpus. The interest off the corpus is what's going to pay for the operations of it in in perpetuity. I mean it's that type of concepts um that we'd have to start talking about. All I was getting at was is there any even interest in in discussing the tennis thing? I have interest in talking about the tennis thing. I I know Bill knows this or Mr. Scarlet knows this much better than any of us because he he's out there at
140the pines and so he knows how expensive this was out there and the costs which is great to have someone like that on our board that knows the the details. Um and so I hope we'll rely heavily on Trustee Scarlet to help us if we decide to move forward with the tennis idea. Um but I was interested in at least talking about it. Uh just [snorts] madam chair, Bronx achievement center because we got money potentially coming in. That's number one for me. Uh tennis facilities number two, the close second. Uh the stables as far as I'm concerned, unless somebody wants to go do all that and come up with a proposal and all that, that's way at the bottom. One piece that we >> have not talked about was housing >> separate. >> Yeah, I
141think we need to talk about that. >> You center >> and I think we're voting later on on um a grant that's been given to the district to sort of look about at what our next steps might be. So sort of >> Oh, is that a grant for Navigate? Oh, that's wonderful. Oh, I didn't know it was a grant. >> I'll be presenting it here in a bit and can answer those questions. >> Okay, good. >> I love it when money comes. >> Yeah. So, that would be something that I think we need to to um monitor current the current housing, the new apartments and, you know, get that information and keep that conversation ongoing and sort of towards the top. Can we talk about a few other of these on here real quick? >>
142Just so you all know, my computer's dying. I have a hard copy of the agenda right here, but I may need a little help. >> Uh, can I also make a suggestion? I don't know. There seems to be a fair amount of people that are here from the public. Um, I don't know how long we're going to go on this. Um, I have a needs assessment, which is a break. Um, go to the bathroom if possible. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I might I don't know if it I mean I'd like to get people here versus if we're going to go through all of these and take this amount of time. U maybe it would be nice to take things I guess I would move to take things out of order and take public comment
143when we come back from a break. >> Okay. And the public comment and stuff not well I guess with that >> just let it >> is on not on tonight's agenda. So then that could be any um >> just a suggestion. >> Yep. Um what so we can take a break. What were the other ones you wanted to talk about as we >> I can talk about them some other evening? I don't even talk about tonight. I I I was going to talk about the ones in the white, but we can talk about those some other day. >> The campus quarter. No >> more parking. >> [laughter] >> I actually wanted to talk about the stadium lights, but it's something I could talk about some other. >> Okay, >> a good idea. >> So, we
144will take a 7 minute break, come back at 8:15 and we can go into public comment and then finish other reports and move into action items. Does that work for everybody? Now we have the report. So >> uh we have um the construction update. >> Construction. >> You could that would probably be >> pretty quick. >> Why don't you come up and do the Are you planning to present? That'll take five minutes and we'll go to bed unless anybody's >> great. Um good evening um madam chair and trustees. Um Jason um of Burning Public Management. um here to give an update, monthly um project update on the transportation facility. Um there's a detailed report I sent in and I'm going to kind of keep this PowerPoint pretty high level, but happy to talk to any
145of the details on the report. Um April, as you can see, was well, we're actually seeing construction out there, so the completion of framing was a big milestone. The roofing system has gotten dried in. So I like to say the two big biggest risks on a project is one coming out of the ground and two getting dried in because you really then control the elements and can can really work on the interior components. So that has paved the way for rough in um of all of our mechanical, electrical, plumbing, fire sprinkler systems has started. Um we we're starting to do underground utilities, all of the shallow utilities. So power uh telecom and fiber is going in here in May. um you're going to start seeing sighting starting. Um and all of this will lead to
146sheetrock and finishes more in late June and July. Um we've we've um kind of caught up and got the the schedule caught up and right now we're tracking to an end of October completion. Um and we'll be working closely with um the the staff to kind of um put together that move in schedule. really maximize the time to get them in, get them set up as quickly as we can, and then get started with the demolition of the existing facility. Um, just a few pictures. This is the prep of the transportation um bay. You can see the lot of lot of work in the thick and footers and all of the um snow melt system. Um, and then the next slide, I think, shows just last Thursday, Friday, that slab got poured and turned out
147really nice. Um, great weather to allow it cure here. Um, moving on to the next slide. Just a few other updates. There's the new parts and storage room. Um, and the next slide, uh, we did have a tour last week with all the bus drivers. It was great to see their um, expressions on their face when they saw how big the great the the break room is. So, [laughter] a lot of excitement there. And then just an aerial shot to show the progress of of the roof. Um, I think that's the highlights of Stan for any questions or any thoughts you all have. I think it's exciting that um the uh mechanics won't be having to work with part of the bus outside during the winter season. >> Yes. >> So, I'm thrilled. >> Anybody
148else? >> Thanks. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Um Madame Chair, Charlotte Reynolds for Capital Projects. Just really quickly for the high school um vestibule, we are having our kick construction kickoff meeting on Friday to um get that ball rolling, getting all of the logistics and schedules and everything outlined. And then we are having the design, the high school edition design kickoff next Monday. Again, that is really to talk logistics, pay apps, you know, all of those the sort of backend things um to get started on the design, talking about scheduling of um stakeholder meetings, sharetses, all of those sorts of next steps, which is when we would um um have opportunities for the board to provide input, staff and community members and all of those things. So once we have
149our kickoff meeting next Monday the 18th then we'll start to work through schedules and and um getting things rolling so that uh before summer we have a lot of really good input um for the design team to start working with. >> Any questions madam chair? just to add to the design on the high school edition. Um, Trusty Dornan and I went to the CWC tour the other day. Um, and that really helped us because we were discussing what should be our programming in there. It was great to see what CWC is already doing that we don't need to repeat. Um, and what they're doing is amazing. Um, I don't know, Trusty Dornan, it they uh they have two labs, a biolab and a physics lab with amazing equipment in there. Um, the the the the
150health labs are amazing. They're two rooms. There's a small room in between them that has oneway glass. the instructor can go in there and actually control both rooms on both sides of her pushing buttons and the stimulated patient can make different changes and then they have a debriefing room to go into as to how that went in that hospital room. So, it's two hospital rooms with this oneway mirror thing in between. The culinary lab was amazing. Uh just beautiful. Um, and then the regular classrooms are are how it was designed where the the doors open out onto this outside patio and and and the artwork is a uh um >> blue whale. >> The blue whale, this big whale that you're going to have uh through it. It's made out of uh tumble weeds, [laughter]
151which is unlikely. So, it was it's a $27 million building. That's not including the cost of the land. That's just the building. And it was it was quite impressive. It's a lot bigger than you think it is when you're driving by. What you're seeing when you're driving by is just the side of the building. When you pull into the parking lot, that's the front and it has a big foot patio area and then you enter in. um a big area for the instructors to be in and um massive area for the students to congregate in study groups and um I was just really impressed but more impressive was um there are certain areas that we won't need to repeat like if if we were thinking of doing CNA they got that uh a CNA so
152we can just do a dual a dual uh with them and and Laura and Annie Bennett were all there and so I think they got a lot of good ideas what to suggest to put in in an RCT on our site. >> And I was wondering how far we'll go with the culinary too because it's quite sophisticated. >> It skylights. So like if you're in the kitchen, all this lights coming in. They were really light. I was very >> Everywhere in that building is magnificent. They they have done a great job architecturally. Very simple uh building but with curtory windows at the top. so forth. Really well done. >> Thank you for going. I'm sorry I traded ships and wasn't able to come. >> Thank you, President. >> Excited. >> Thank you. >> Oh, sorry.
153>> Madam Chair, um I'm sorry I didn't ask uh our >> Jason, >> building director about the cost, >> Jason. >> How are we doing on that? >> It sounds like the time is going great and you're on time. How about on budget? >> Yep. Thank you, Trusty Me. Um, yeah, the project is tracking on budget. There's a contingency that's carried for the unknowns and we've spent about 44% of that contingency and we're about 50% through the project. So, >> great. >> It's there. I would say contingency. You should slow down and feeling comfortable with what we have left um to to manage the project. So, yes, on on budget. >> Thanks. Thank you. >> Thanks, Roman. >> All right. So now we are going to take a seven minute break and we'll be back
154at 8:25. Here we go. computer and I keep it off and it's so irritating just not [clears throat] All right, >> we're all here. >> All right, I'm going to bring the meeting back to order >> and we will move on to public comment not on tonight's agenda. Um, we would invite public to come up and talk for three three minutes, no more than three minutes. Um, please come up, state your name, and give your comment. Um, if you have sent a letter, we have received that. If you're just going to repeat what was in the letter, please don't come up to the microphone because we have um we have all received that. Um, and um, I would invite you all up. >> Good evening, trustees. Uh, my name is Beth Eastman. I'm a teacher
155at Jackson High School and I work with students with the Tapscala Intercomio Club. And with that, I'll turn it over to Alvaro, our vice president. Comments for you. >> Good evening, TCSD board trustees. My name is O P Perez speaking on behalf of the Klascal Team Club of Jackson Hall High School. We wanted to extend our deep appreciation for your support of the Glascal intercom sister city celebration on April 25th. It was a great success with food tradition ways and words of support from community members. Thank to the generosity of Mike Hansen, Ryan Allen, and Bennett Lieberman for opening the JHS as facilities to over 500 community members to celebrate the sister city relationship between the town of Jackson and Glascala. We also want to recognize the presence of Dan Abraham and Matt Herer who
156attended the event as admin support. Finally, thank you to to the trustee Betsy Carlin for speaking on behalf of the school district and recognizing the rich culture heritage of much of our Latino student body and also supporting the efforts of efforts. The club is making the unite of the student body through the sister city project. The students of the Klaska Intercom Club look forward to future efforts to bridge the town of Jackson Hole, the Teton County School District and the communities in Glascada. And by that I want to say it was great seeing so many familiar faces there. So much part of our community and not just Latinos but also our Anglo community. We saw how we really got to elevate everyone's different point of views and being there and that we're a big family.
157We just need to work. This space is for everyone. It's not just for one community. Doesn't matter if you're white, black, brown. It matters what's inside of you and what our community can become. Thank you so much. >> And it really was a terrific event. I'm so glad that I'm uh next. Hello. Um Carolyn Carlin, board of trustees. I am speaking um I'm Diane McGee and I'm speaking on behalf of Mark Nukem. He had to go take care of his kiddos. Um he requested that I read this public comment who says uh you in a role I in my role brick by brick build the foundation for a vibrant community. A key loadar in my measure of our success is whether or not as many in our community as possible, if not all, have access
158to opportunities to improve themselves. Our foundation is missing a brick, at least one, an indoor tennis facility accessible to all in the community of any age and any background. An opportunity is before us to fill that gap. an opportunity to build a facility facility like none this community has ever seen with support like this community has ever seen. You of course can baseline drive this opportunity back to the town and county to pursue in a small site in town on the fairgrounds. If you do, I will roll up my sleeves to lay these bricks as best I can in my role. The site on TCSD land is bigger and better, allowing for a facility that is bigger and better and more accessible. Please give this opportunity to strengthen our foundation your fullest attention. >> Good
159evening. I'm a retired director. I'm Jody Adams and I am from Billings, Montana. and I'm here as a volunteer. I'm here as a supporter of building a new indoor tennis center. I am actually a retired county city county intergovernmental park agency director from Missouri and also an ameritus faculty member of Missouri State University. Currently, I did come out of retirement and I'm helping the United States Association throughout the country right now build these type of facilities and support them. With my experience, um I've worked with all different delineations of building of parks and recreation facilities but also school facilities. In this book, we will get you this by electronic. This is all about the best practices of school park development throughout our country. And this is a national book that we were asked to write
160between myself and our superintendent office as I was at the Springfield Green County Park Board for 32 years. And we actually built 21 school parks. And then with those school parks, we did build the type of facilities you're talking about on your list. I also want to talk about this proposed facility is going to be supported by the Teton County Community Tent Association. This project is one of 2300 projects that have been registered with the United States Tent Association over the last five years. You can do the math. This is with school districts. This is with school and park uh support and city county support. I just want you to know the facts because a lot of these facilities have asked for funding and they've also asked for business services, engineering and concept development. That
161is already happening with this facility. We are way down the road on it. Also in Billings, Montana, we are in the midst of this same project and it is a public nonprofit ran facility. We are twothirds there already in the fundraising of a $12 million facility from our community. The facility that you're talking about and it has been proposed to you is a community hub. And why do I say that? for your children and families. This facility goes way beyond the lines of the court. This is not only a skill development, cognizant development, mental health support, but also a facility that will develop lifelong uh commitment to the children of skill development and social interaction. you um your three minutes is up. Can you conclude? >> I can. Thank you. 23,000 students are participating in
162the National Junior Tennis League. This program will come into the center and it is also works with skill development and education. Know that there is a curriculum that will follow and be instituted in this facility. I just want to thank you for your time. appreciate it and we will support you any way we can. So, it's way beyond your community support. Thank you. >> Any other public com any com public comment online? All right, we'll close out public comment. Thank you very much. Um, next we are going to adjourn into the TCSD rec district board meeting. Do I have a motion? >> M. I move that the board of education adjourn into the TCSD number one recreation district board meeting. >> Go ahead. >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Motion passes. >>
163Mr. Hansen, >> can you click on the action item A? >> So, we had the rec district advisory committee meeting a few weeks ago. There were three applications, if I remember correctly, that the advisory committee wanted either more information on or was not interested in passing. The Skate Jackson Hole was asking for funding. Sorry, Skate Jackson Pole. SkateJ was asking for um funding for their ice skating out at um it's at the square and I think there's some at the village as well um for some equipment needs and that wasn't maybe clear to the advisory committee as to what he was asking for. So I included his letter that he sent clarifying that he is using the um funds for equipment. >> Is that Winter Wonderland? >> Correct. Yes. Um then there was carving the
164future was asking for a grant to put in a water fountain at the skate park here. Some of the advisory committee felt that maybe there would be a better location for that water fountain could be potentially at the um bathrooms down here at the concession stand that that might be a better location. That was the reason that wasn't recommended. And the parks and wreck application was for kids club. And there was some wondering and wanting more information about how much the county is contributing to kids club as well. And I included the letter from the county outlining that information as well. The TCSD application has not changed. One thing that is different from the advisory committee, we got the um trying to think what it would be called the um the assessment the value assessed
165value. Um, so the current balance sheet that is in here shows the updated assessed value for the county. That was a different number when we presented at the advisory committee. But other than that, I do not have any uh further to add and I will respond to any questions you might have. >> What? >> Yeah, >> just for clarification, Madam Chair, the value that is on there is still an estimate of this form. Okay. >> An updated estimate. >> Madame Chair, I'm uncomfortable with um the economy the way it is of uh asking for a full male levy from our voters um for uh the rec district given that um the assessed valuation has gone up by quadruple since we first started working on rep um district items. So I um I'm not making a
166motion, but I'd like to have some discussion on reducing the mill levy for the registry. Um, and I would uh say that during the advisory committee meeting, we started to have a conversation about the appropriate number to discuss and it was um decided that that that would um that conversation would also happen tonight. And so we just went in with the full bill to have the full rec board um make that decision. >> Madam Chair, if we approved everything, would that need the full bill? >> Does anyone know? >> Um well, we have 1.7 million left over from last year and it seems like this what has been proposed is the 1.7, right? >> Sarah, can you pull up the current balance sheet? because it's for next June that n >> the mill levy would
167come up. >> It's got the yellow highlight on it. >> Can I ask a quick question? Are are we just approving the grants >> right now? >> Well, and we'll approve the mill as a board later, but we have to decide what we're proposing. >> Are we Is that correct? And the grants include all of the school district grants. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. I do have a question for Mr. Hansen, too, when appropriate. >> Go ahead. Um, yeah, Director Hansen, I know, um, I'm looking on the TCSD uh, grounds number and you've reduced that to 655,000. Can you explain what grounds mean? >> Um, don't have that sheet in front of me. the grounds items that are on there is the um contract with whole landscaping that ms the the area that does the
168irrigation um that was entered into a few years ago taking that away from parks and recreation. I believe I also put in there money to replace our uh sprinkler system in there. Um I could can you pull Can you go back to the other >> the summary of the summary? I can't see it. >> Scroll down to the grounds page. >> Keep going. >> Excuse me. tools first and then with >> So here here's my concern. For years we have been using duct tape and bailing wire to repair the irrigation system on all of our fields and our fields are are amazing resource for the entire community. But I feel there we go. I I feel that So, we got 200,000 for to replace the irrigation. We've we've got a little bit of room in
169here um Mike to go ahead and put a plan together to go ahead and get the formal bid to replace the irrigation system. But at the same time, looking at the town of Jackson, because all of this is watered by Pound of Jackson water, and I do believe um those rates are going to go up by 25%. Um, I wonder if we should reactivate the well out there and if we could get some numbers to look at that and I think that's a natural place for this wreck district to fund. >> Yep. We got an estimate today um to activate the well. I know you were out there last week um with uh Mr. Huggin. The estimate that we got was around $60,000 to reactivate the well out there and that we could use that
170for irrigation for the area. And what's our annual water cost? Do you know? >> Um, we got that information last week. I want to say for watering the fields for irrigation, it was around $42,000. >> And then if we add 25% to that, we'll be up over 55,000 next this year. >> Seems pretty cheap to reactivate that well. >> Is that for a new well? No, there's a well that exists behind Coulter >> and it's $60,000 to fix it up in the well. >> That was the estimate that we received. >> Stop using the well >> that I do not know. That's for my >> Yeah, I have no idea either. Well, the reason I do is because I've just applied to drill a well for irrigation and you know but for a big ranch.
171So, um you know it doesn't cost that much for a new well. >> You just pull it out. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> exactly. Right. >> Maybe there's something wrong. Is there something wrong with the well? I mean, is there something >> that do not know? We would definitely put this out for an RFP. This was just one this is just one estimate we received to begin this conversation. >> Yeah. Thanks. >> Um there was a question on the table um what would it take to fund all the current applications um including the district um in terms of a full mill or less or you >> Yeah. So, >> well, if we took out the Bron Achievement Center, that's 1.7 million off. [laughter] >> I just want to right there. >> Just a second. >> You
172got it. >> Hans is more than capable of answering this question. It looks like our our total um applications are 3.9. I just want to remind the committee that we do need to have a little bit of a cushion in there for cash flow because of the way that the tax dollars come in. I don't think that we need necessarily $1.7 million in a cushion, which is about what that is. It looks like the total application cost is 3.8 3.9. Um, if you went down to 0.9, that would get you about 3.7. Um, but that's there's where your numbers are. If you look under Sarah, can you pull up the mill levy estimate page that's with the mill levies? >> Um, I think this will be a good tool for you guys to reference in
173this conversation. >> Was that an attachment here? >> That's right. >> 4.1. >> Um, it's under all of the mill levy action items. >> 4.1. Um, but this is this is what they would be. This is the one mil and then if you go down there's your numbers. >> And there are also items that's listing the current balance that would be carried over, but there are still projects that will be paid out out of that sum as well. And you see that 1.7 billion. >> Madam Chair, um, thank you. Um, director Hansen, you you had prepared a summary of the changes and in there you said that uh on grounds there was60,000 163,000 change decrease and you said change in projects prioritized. What what do you mean by that? Why is there a decrease? >>
174Um the biggest example would be the summit parking lot. So last year there was a $250,000 Summit parking lot in there and we didn't have so was just the the various projects that were in there were much smaller like um did we had a track repaint in there? Um I'd have to look at last year's request. It was um changes such as that as to why it went down. Um, does anybody have any more questions? >> Um, Madame Chair, um, I understand that we have budgeted for a full mill, but we would just have to rebudget and that's fact. Um, I'm really nervous about the legislature going ahead and saying, "Okay, you don't get to decide mills anymore. School boards across the state, not just us." >> Um, and in fact, you have to go
175to the voters. Um, and um, if that were to happen or, you know, no telling what they'll do. Um, you know, Teton County School District has a lot of programs that they've got the district, the rec district paying for and uh I think that's very very concerning. So, I'd really like to keep um people in our community supporting us. Um, and uh, you know, they've already cut taxes, right? >> You never know what they're doing. So, I'm very concerned about it. I would be more comfortable with a half a mill. Um, but that's that's my opinion about it. >> Other comments, thoughts? >> Yeah, Madam Chair, I just thinking out loud. I think we could drop the million750 to the Bron Achievement Center. We've been escrowing that number for years. I think we could drop
176that. That would help reduce the budget. I would like to see us add an additional $600,000 to the irrigation system so we can get that fixed once and for all so we're just not peacemealing it over the couple of years. So that would be a net savings of a million um 150. I think both of I think um that we could then use and Kristen will have to fact check me, but I think that would get us to a half mil when we vote to approve the mill in the regular session coming up. >> Trusty Bosch. >> U Madam Chair, I guess I have a question for Trusty Scarlet. Why 600,000 for the irrigation? >> Because we've already budgeted 200,000 for it. >> Oh, okay. >> In the existing budget. So, I'm just adding to
177get up close to 800,000. >> Why 800? >> That's the well, that's the electrical, that's the um um the cost to replace the uh all of the pipes. I think the information I think you're looking for, trusty Bosch, is we got another quote. Again, this would go to an RFP, just an estimate so we could find out in order to replace our entire irrigation system. And that estimate was around $700,000. >> Oh, okay. Thank you. I'm trying to figure out. >> Again, this would go out to RFP, but that's where that number is coming from to replace all of it versus doing it in phases. So, >> so if we took off the Bron Achievement Center and we added on money to do the irrigation system in a way that, you know, updates it for
178a while. We could we think we could do it for a half a mill and all the other grants? >> I think it's close. >> So, all the other grants total >> 4 Yeah. Community application 16 169 170. >> So it would be 3.1 million. We have 1.7 in carryover plus 2.2 million. If a half a mill gets us to 37, um we that would give about a half a million dollar push in for carryover which is what we out of the past. >> So that's including the sprinkler. >> If that's adding in 600, taking out the 1.7 for Brock achievement off the community applications and then rolling the cash carryover in we'd be fine. >> Yeah, just so I'm understanding, uh, Trusty me, you're you want to do this because worried that I didn't
179quite follow what you were saying. Well, there's a couple things, you know, one is people in a time of severe inflation, you know, and tax concerns in our county, property tax concerns, and let us not forget that the only people are paying for this are property tax property owners. >> Yeah. Um, I I uh think it's sort of only fair and I am concerned about the legislature determining that school districts may not determine the mil levy anymore because that that legislation very nearly passed right less less time. >> Um, and that be for the whole community to decide and we'd have the extra uh burden of uh elections and that sort of thing. So to keep it sort of in line uh so the legislature is not saying oh those people up in Ton County
180you know they get $4 million from one mill that they add on to their school district budget basically. Um you know I think it's concern it's just sort of a political consideration I would say >> and the the recalibration committee did ask that direct question of me in the meetings. Oh, maybe that's where I can >> reinforce. >> Yeah, >> I guess that's right. >> And it's not it's not I mean it's not unprecedented. Um because one year we voted for a point >> two. Yeah. 02 because we had so much carryover was when all of a sudden the property taxes went way up and we had all this carryover. So we, you know, went down to 0.2. So, I mean, I think it is um beneficial. Well, it's not a, you know, it's not
181something that taxpayers are going to feel deeply, but it is um a uh good um I think it's a neighborly thing to do >> if we can cover all the expenses because I also think if this is to go to the B voters that um the more support we have through community organizations because they've benefit to the more they're going to advocate for our cause. >> Madame Chair, >> so the the legislation that was proposed would require us to go to the voter every four years to approve the school district to charge one mill for their recck district. So it's not just a one-time deal, it's every four years. And last year when they cut um the budgets, all of the districts that didn't have wreck districts went to their vote or went and just
182assessed that extra one mil for school operations. So that's where this is coming from. >> All right. So really we're on um a under in the rec district. So really we need to vote to approve the grant applications. We've had some changes. So we'll need [snorts] um >> public comment first. >> Oh, we'll need com public comment for um if anybody has public comment about the grant applications, please come forward. >> That's correct. >> Okay. I move to approve the PCSD number one recreation district f this school year 2027 community applications 1 through 21 TCPR application one and PCSD number one grant application as presented with the following changes that 600,000 be added to the grounds for irrigation and that the money for the payment center um be removed. >> Is that right? >> I
183think so. Does that include the two grants that we got the information we needed? >> Um, just want to cl >> No, it does not. You would have to add that in there. So, 40,000 for kids and then the other ones do those. >> Um, we did get that information we request requested. So, do we want to add those back in? I think um I think that we had we let me go back and say that we had some good conversation about the kids club. Um >> what if we voted on this motion and then we could do those two? >> Those two. Okay, let's vote on this motion. Um any more discussion on the motion on the table? >> There is. >> No more discussion. >> We Oh, did we have a second? There
184wasn't a second that I know of. >> Bill. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Trusty [clears throat] Scarlet second. >> Um, >> discussion. >> So, um, I have absolutely no problem in reducing uh a half mil given our earlier discussions on status of our projects. Um, I guess I don't quite understand what I hear is the second rationale, which is if we lower it, maybe the state will act differently. If it's every four years, what I'm worried about is just that if we if we do that and then they do pass that law, it's going to be harder, I think, to get it back up to a mill because we've already said >> not on point. >> Do that away. But I'm just I don't I I have to admit I'm not sure that I have
185that same concerns. Maybe I have no problem. >> Let's madam chair. Point of order. >> Just point of order. Jerry, let's talk about that when we approve the half mill or a mill in the regular session. We're right now just approving the grant application. >> Okay, that makes sense because we'll get down action items. All right. So, we have a motion on the table and a second. Any more discussion on that motion? Seeing none, all in favor? >> I >> opposed. Motion carries. All right. Now we move to um adjourn the rec district meeting. >> Oh no, you got to do the second motion for the other motion. >> Oh, second. No, but thank you. Thank you. Sorry. This is sort of you know doing the rec district meeting within the meeting is got um
186it's becomes more complicated. Um the second motion would be to um on the recommendation of the advisory committee with the information that we receive to support uh the kids club the Teton rec department application for kids club and the um ice skating grant. Madam chair, I'll make the motion to approve the grants for the ice skating and prove the grant for the kids club. >> Is there a second? >> Dies for the lack of a second. >> Dies for lack of a second. Okay. >> Now I'll move to adjourn from the rec district back to our regular meeting. >> Second. >> [laughter] >> All in favor? >> I I >> I. >> Okay. Now we'll move on to Teton County School District action items. Consideration of Teton's County School District recreation. Um anyways, one mil
187levy request. [laughter] >> Sorry, getting tired. Uh, this is when we can have the conversation about the mill. >> Now, I'll ask you a question, Jerry. >> Um, I just didn't I didn't know we had a motion, but if we're just going to talk about it, it's not really a question. It's just um I guess my view is just a little bit different than trustee mess. I don't quite understand that. I'd be afraid that if we lower it um then the problem's going to be that um if we have to go back to the legis or to the voters then trying to justify that is going to be more difficult. I had this question during our rec district meeting was the money going from the Bronx Achievement Center. is what I said was is hey
188wait a minute what are we doing about the proxy treatment center because of the the the amount of money was more than anything else really by [clears throat] far. So I have no problems doing that. Um we've already changed the budget. I'm not sure it really matters at this point but um or change the applications. So I understand the point of order but I I I will vote for a half mil if that's what we're going to go for. Um, I just have concerns if we have to ask for more every four years, it might be more difficult if we do that. >> Um, I just am curious about timeline and somebody might know this. So, if let's say the legislature brought it up next year and it did pass that they wanted us to
189vote on the rec district mill every four years. we would identify what that mill is for the next year right now next year before there would ever be a vote so we could raise it back up to one >> I mean but you know I don't know what the how that looks but it is the truth >> and you know it's still a lot of money >> yeah and they may we may vote at some point not to have property taxes at all in the state of Wyoming and and we, you know, it's a moot point, >> right? [laughter] >> That's something else we have to think about advocating for. >> Um, Madame Chair, I'm wondering, um, if the state cuts back sports by 25% if we won't need that money, we can't bank it,
190can we? I mean, we do have carryover, but it's not really a good policy to have, you know, taxpayer dollars and savings. So, we can't vote for the mill in anticipation that we might need the money. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. [snorts] >> That's a Whoa. >> [laughter] >> Madame Chair, we have to have it budgeted. We can't just I don't think we can just vote for something for something that may or may not happen. >> Right. Okay. I think that's >> which is why we took Rocket. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, is there any public comment on this item? Seeing none, is there a motion? >> Madam Chair, I would move to approve the TCSD number one recreation district mill levy request at 0.5 mills. >> Is there a second?
191>> Okay, there's a second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I >> opposed. Um motion passes. Moving on to consideration of the Hot Springs Early Childhood Boseies.1 mill levy request. >> Madame Chair is this is not a raise. It's just >> this is just what we've been doing. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Um, is there anybody that's Oh, >> Madam Chair, I move to approve the hot Oh, are you going to talk about >> statement? Okay, perfect. Go ahead and make the motion. I move to approve the hot springs early childhood bosses.1 mil lev8 request as presented for the early childhood bosses. >> Is there a second? >> A second. >> Any discussion? >> Oh, public comment. Public comment. Sorry. I don't know why I'm forgetting that tonight. So seeing none, we have a motion on
192the table and a second. Um any more discussion? I think it's exciting. I think it was in the um LEAP district leaders report the things that Alex has been Alex Go is who is the liaison who this funds her salary is doing for the early childhood community. And um so I think and then uh also the state. So I think it's really it's exciting. So anyways, all in favor? >> Motion carries. Consideration of CWC Boseies.15 mil levy request. Um it's right there. Any public comment? No public comment. Seeing none, do I have a motion? Madam Chair, I move to approve the CWC Bosey's.15 mil levy request. >> A second. >> Second. >> Any more discussion? >> All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Now we're on to the big the star of the
193show, the consideration of TCSD number one fiscal year 27 compensation package. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I will say that this compensation package is probably one of the most wellvetted [laughter] that I presented in my tenure here. Um we >> Well vetted. Yes. Um by stakeholders. Uh Dr. Crisp offered um some Zoom meetings for staff to participate in. He also sent out um multiple um opportunities for feedback through surveys and we we have made changes and we have updated um some of the compensation package to reflect some of the feedback that we've received. one being uh when when the draft was published last month, uh we had applied the increase just to each step the same. Um we heard some feedback from staff that that was inequitable because of the percentage of the increase
194was going to be less for a more tenure teacher than it was for a new teacher. um that in combination with how we roll those matrices forward in future compensation package, we've gone back and we've adjusted uh how that was applied. So now across the first step, it's 19,000 and then as you go down through um the steps on the matrix, uh it'll get up to 27,000. And the goal there is to reach um a certain number that's been prescribed by the state for average teacher salary. Uh so we've been able to meet the methodology for that expectation with both of their options in proving that. So um that's great that we've been able to do that. And then um just tweaks here and there. We did end up going back to the classified matrices
195for those staff that work fulltime 175 days or more. we were able to increase those salaries enough to where it would cover um the insurance increase. Uh unfortunately, there's still a gap with some staff that work not full-time for 175 days. We have some people that work maybe four hours a day. we just couldn't quite get to covering that full amount, but we did make strides in making sure that um our full-time staff uh that work at least at minimum the student days are not going to get a decrease. So, those are the the biggest changes in the compensation package this year and um I appreciate everybody's feedback. I think it's probably the best one we've done. >> Right. Thank you. Any questions for director mayo? Seeing none. Any public comment? >> Oh, do you
196have questions for director? Sorry. >> Um, two questions. Uh, the first one I think is simple, but this package of the draft also deals with coaches and has specific numbers put in there. We had a lot of discussion about activities. Are we locking ourselves into those things or not? >> So last year we revised the coaching matrix and we tied it to the certified matrix. Uh I wasn't able to continue that this year. So those are static numbers. Um if we go down the path of talking about activities yet the coach's salaries are in this compensation package and they'll be approved if this is approved tonight. Um, as I have heard the conversations around activities, it wouldn't necessarily be reducing coaching stipens. It would be reducing number of coaches. And so that you're not approving
197in this compensation package. >> But this compensation package does set out specific number of coaches per activity. >> It defines what we currently have. It doesn't say this is how many we're going to have. It defines what we currently have. the um there's been a lot of discussion about the staff and the increases there with regards to admin. What is the bumper increase from last year's compensation? >> Um it's it it varies. So a step is going to be different for every admin. Um as you can see in the um in the compensation package that matrix is on the page. I don't know if you've been able >> 13 >> to look at that. >> Sorry. Um it's anywhere between um let's see I'm just recalling from memory anywhere between 14,000 for an administrator up
198to I think the highest is 25,000 that depends on years of service um current salary uh how many days they work uh we did when we evaluated how we were going to finalize this admin matrix Um there was there was a lot of focus on our our site administrators and a couple of things that we talked a lot about is if you have a site administrator that's eventually interested in working at at a district admin position, how do you incentivize them to come and work at the district if they're going to make less money? Right? So um Dr. Chris and I I mean we we spent so much time talking about all of the ins and outs. We met with administrators. Um we received a lot of feedback on this as well as everything else
199in the compensation package. So when you see the percentages um that really represents the percentage of responsibility and it's such an arbitrary term but this is this is how we got here. And so 120% for an assistant principal, 130 for a principal, and then an executive director, which would be a cabinet level person, um, is 132%. And that 2% just makes a big enough gap to where we could have succession planning in the district for those district administrative positions. And then all are adjusted for days worked. >> Mr. Chair, >> yes. Now, just to clarify, these positions are all outside the sidewalk. Is that right? >> Yes. >> Oh, >> yes. So, we had to make up for >> this money to uh do the increases. H. >> So when evaluating this matrix, I was
200also looking so the the new funding model, the prior funding model gave us an average salary and then it would give us credit for experience, education, all of these different pieces. PhD, we got an extra amount of money for PhDs. The new model doesn't do any of that. They say here's your salary for an administrator. And so when looking at all of these and taking the different groups, whether it's assistant principles, this is how many we're funded for. This is how many we have. This is the average salary that we have in the model. If we have, let's say, nine assistant principles, but we're only funded for six, that average salary may have to be lower that we're paying because our funding for assistant principles is only this much. So we looked at all of
201those different variances. um they've changed the funding model. You used to be funded for a superintendent, maybe an assistant superintendent if your district was big, big enough, and then a business manager. Those were the only district office administrative positions that were funded in the previous model. They've changed that now we're funded for um a superintendent and then deputy superintendent positions, which would be your cabinet level position. So then when looking at what our cabinet looks like, how many deputy superintendent positions we have, what that average salary is, where do we fit in those numbers, we did all of those analysis um and really got to a point where we're comfortable with the number of administrators that we have. Uh we align with the model really well, not necessarily in the same pockets. We may have
202more assistant principles than what the model funds us for, but we make up for it in some of those other areas. Uh, but it was all of those pieces and it it took a long time. It and we had a lot of feedback on it. Um, but it it's in a spot now where at least we have this and if we need to change it, if we need to adjust it moving forward, we absolutely can. Um, but I think it gives as as U. Principal Abraham spoke about at the last meeting. It at least gives a guide like a teacher has to where you might land next year and you can land for your family. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. So, um, Director Mayo, with regards to the, um, individual contributions that now have to
203be made or payments need to be made for health >> insurance. How does that net out with these percentages that are here? Well, the percentages on the matrix don't relate to the um the health insurance, but the goal was to get everybody to a point where they weren't going to take a pay decrease. So, there are some that are barely going to make more if they're electing family coverage. Um, and then there's some that if you're a single employee, you're going to get the whole increase because you don't have to pay for coverage. So, these percentages are tied back to the MA 00 MA 0. That changed a couple times, so it' have to look back, but um it's it's tied [clears throat] to that step one um of the MA00 lane in the in
204the certified matrix, >> maybe MA4. >> Just a clarification, I was saying if you increase in admins by this much, but then you take Yep. >> That they have to pay health insurance. I know you can't give me a direct number or a specific number for everybody. I'm just wondering, you know, how are these increases um is it really going to be an increase in salary given we saw the inflation figures that were presented to us? >> Um is it really going to be h helping our admin or are they going to be really looking at not getting much of an increase this year? it it depends on their health insurance election. And as we were doing the evaluation, it's it's one of those things where if you mix the two conversations and you're trying
205to adjust salaries and make it fit into the health insurance conversation, it can get gray and it can get a little bit because then what ends up happening is you're focusing on one person. One person who's taking a little bit of a loss then impacts the entire group. And when looking at the salaries in that way, what I found is that the people that weren't impacted that one person, then everybody else got these massive increases. So, we made the increases across the board similar depending on step and lane. And then nobody's taking a pay decrease, but there will be some that um aren't getting much of an increase if they elect family coverage. I would say the same is true for teachers. Um the total out of pocket for family coverage is $11,000. So if
206you're only getting 14 or $15,000, it's not much of an increase. Um you know, I it's still an increase. It does benefit with long-term Wyoming retirement. I mean, that's a huge benefit is when they see their um their average salary increase by $20,000. um that has long-term impacts beyond um the health insurance conversation. >> Madam Chair, I have been thinking about Kristen doing all this work and thinking, do you ever not sleep at night because you wonder if your math was wrong? [laughter] >> Well, that's interesting that you say that. [laughter] Not before now. Um, and I'm frightened. Um, but as I've told Dr. Chris, if I've done my math wrong, it just might be time for me to move on. [laughter] >> So, thank you. >> I'm not sure I want to clean it
207up. >> Yman's work, Dr. Kristen. And >> thank you. >> Any more questions? Public time. Um, good evening, Madam Chair and trustees. I'm Stan Morgan, uh, teacher at Jacksonville Middle School and also the president of TCA. Um, as you may or may not remember, the last couple years you've probably had to listen to me talk about rising inflation and stagnant wages. Congratulations. You do not have to hear that this year. [laughter] I agree with Kristen. This is her best compensation package yet. and our staff is really pleased and we really wanted to thank you. Um thank all of you, not only the board but also the administration of course as well. Um we realize of course that this didn't fall out of thin air but it's the result of a lot of work from the
208board from our admin team lobbying and Casper Cheyenne meetings that started in June and continued through the legislative session. Thank you again on uh for for your efforts on our behalf. Um the compensation package of course is quite different this year with the healthc care expenses and with that um arose concerns and some people were confused. Some people felt uh a little bit slighted but I also have to say I agree with Kristen on this. It's a very wellvetted compensation package. The process really worked well this year and I'd like to thank both uh Superintendent Crisp and Director Mayo for that. You can see a lot of the uh changes in the compensation package tonight from employees concerns. This works really well for a lot of reasons. maybe some things that they didn't think through
209or is it not because through no fault of their own, but there's some unforeseen consequences of some of the decisions or how it impacts individuals. Um, of course, not everybody got everything they wanted, but most people are really, really happy with this package. Um, and again, thank you for that. The other side of that, though, is the human side of it. And I do feel like there's a lot of value for our employees, for our morale when they're heard by our administration. And so that makes a big difference for people too. And sometimes it's an administrator, sometimes it's a support staff, but when they really feel like they've been heard, and every single one of the people that I've spoken to said they felt like they've been heard by the administration on this, it makes
210a huge difference. people are being valued and that's going to pay dividends for this district for a long time. So, thank you again for that. Um, again, not surprisingly, staff morale is at an all-time high. [snorts] Um, people are really pleased. Kind of a collective sigh from our staff after since co we've taken more and more financial pressures and this feels like a real breath of fresh air and really the narrative has shifted. People that were considering retiring may teach for a few more years. Really good teachers. People that were thinking of leaving the profession have decided to stay on longer and that's also good news for us as well. Um again, we're really grateful to the board. Um to our administration as well, also to our local legislators that went to bat for us.
211We did not lose sight of that. We like to think that WA's uh lawsuit was also helpful in the process to push the whole state legislature towards doing the right thing as well. Um and really at the end of the day, thank you all for your efforts. We believe when educators have supported, recruited, and retained, students benefit, families benefit, and our whole community benefits. Thank you. Any more public comment? >> Seeing none, is there does somebody have a motion? >> Madame Chair, I'll make the motion. [laughter] Um, I I move to approve the 2627 comp package as Kristen presented. >> Is there's a motion and a second. Is there any more discussion? >> Madame Chair. >> Yes. >> Kristen is probably the most knowledgeable Wyoming school funding uh model [laughter] uh individual in the state
212right now. Um, we need to make sure um WDE keeps their hands off of her. She is ours. [laughter] Um, and also with the approval of this compensation package, I'd like all the school board members to recognize that we are getting a 75% salary increase next year. Um, personally, 75% of zero is still zero. So we are [laughter] still fully compensated as volunteers. >> Uh any more discussion or comments? Seeing none, all in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries. >> Consideration of Sedexo Food Service Management Contractor renewal. You should have just stayed up there. I like to present the renewal [clears throat] for Sedexo, Food Service Management Company. Uh we did have a food service steering committee this week. You have a letter um to the board from one of those committee members and it
213it was our first year doing it. We didn't really know what to expect. About halfway through, we had I think it was a two-page list of all of the things that the um food service steering committee had suggested we change. And so we at that point we shifted gears a little bit and we said, "Okay, let's let's talk about something we can actually accomplish this year and then save this list and roll it forward and then decide what our what our item is next year." Uh and the committee decided to we we wanted to get a lot more feedback from students, from families, from any stakeholders in the community um that have ideas that want to chime in on um what our food service is like. We have a lot of a lot of kids
214in our school district that eat our school meals and and what we're finding is we're not hearing from a lot of those families that are participating in our lunch program. A lot of the families that we're hearing from are the ones that don't participate in our food service program. So there's there's two things there. One is do they not participate because they are just choosing not to or do they not participate because of the food and the ones that are sitting on our committee I think would say that they don't participate because of the food that's being served. So then that that begs the question of what do we do next? So uh Dr. Chris and I when we went down to Cheyenne for the recalibration meetings, we actually went and toured Boulder Valley School
215District. They have they serve 17,000 meals a day. Um they have a centralized kitchen. They make everything from scratch. It's a fantastic operation. Uh what we would like to do is just brainstorm how do we get we have their plan of how they started in 2009 to get to where they are today. It was a partnership with them, their community stakeholders, a lot of food vendors, farmers, ranchers in the area, but also their state passed legislation to fund free universal meals for all kids in school. And hopefully through the recalibration session in this interim, the first meeting is next month in June. That is one of the topics that the the legislature is going to be considering is how do they contribute or help fund uh meals in schools? And that would be such a
216huge win um for all students in Wyoming, but if the legislature started to participate. So while our food service program is not perfect, uh we do we are committed to making improvements no matter how small they are. This is a renewal for one year. And you I don't know what the long-term answer is. Um, I'd love to say in five years we're gonna have centralized kitchen where we're cooking everything from scratch, but that's a little unrealistic. [laughter] Uh, but I do think that with the committee that we have and maybe if we can get some more um participation in that committee from families who participate in lunch as well as maybe local ranchers, um we could really start building out a long-term plan for that program. Um, you know, the the next big thing is
217where do you put it? where's the land? Um, and we have a couple of brainstorming ideas of where we could eventually put that, but um, that's that's all it is for the renewal. >> Thank you. >> Any questions? Trusty B. >> Thanks, Madam Chair. Um, so again, being new, I went through the old contract just to understand the renewal a little bit better. Um, and I guess I just have some questions for you about the contract in general since we're renewing it, but >> Sure. >> in I don't know if you can answer them, Director Moo, but one of the things is is um it appears that we're required to do audits and and inspections and stuff with that. Do we have somebody that does that and goes in and who is that? >> WDE.
218WDE has a nutrition um program. Okay. >> And they come and they audit us. We've had four audits in the time that I've been here. Uh when we were running our own program, we failed two audits, which is one of the reasons that we outsourced to Sedexo. And since we've had Sedexo, we have passed both of our audits. >> Both. You said there were four, >> right? We had two before that we failed. >> Oh, we Okay. I didn't understand. And then it talks about the uh fresh fruits and vegetable program. What kind of percentage of the overall budget is that? >> It's a small percentage. I think our total allocation is 50,000 and it's only it's allocated to specific schools. Um so it's elementary school only. We don't get fresh fruit and vegetables for
219secondary schools. I don't know why. Uh it's a federal program and we get this much allocation. We order those fresh fruits and vegetables. The program itself is very hard to implement and manage. One of the findings that we've had in a past audit is our um elementary school teachers used to send their kids down. So, you can't pick up the fruits and vegetables from the cafeteria until after school starts. Our teachers were sending a kid down to get the bin to bring it back to this to the classroom. Uh we we had a finding because of that. They're not allowed to do that. The teacher has to go pick up the fruits and vegetables from the cafeteria. um what we've asked or somebody has to deliver it. So we've moved to a delivery model. Um
220and then you have to do an education. We also used to just put the fruit out for kids to grab whenever they needed a snack or whatever in the classroom, but you can't do that either. You have to if you're serving bananas, you have to do a little lesson on why bananas are um good for you to eat. And so it's It's great. Um, but adding that [laughter] to a teacher's plate, it has to be the teacher. So, you're adding another thing for the teachers to do. And and when we talk about how hard it is to to follow some of these guidelines that the feds put out, this these are the things that we're talking about. This is a grant that we get that's $50,000, but every teacher in elementary school is now impacted
221if they want to serve these in their school. Um, so there's there's a lot of little pieces like that. That's just one one fresh fruit and vegetable program. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions? Seeing none, any public comment. All right. Uh, we have a motion. I move to approve. Oops, I'm on the wrong one. Here we go. Madam Chair, I move to approve this exo contract not to exceed 1,924,62 as presented. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any more discussion? All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Nay. >> Motion passes. Consideration of agreement with NavigatejH. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Charlotte Reynolds. Um the in uh 2022 uh the district uh worked with uh Nate JH and Christine Walker on a housing needs assessment. Um that strategic um it basically that
222turned into a strategic housing plan for the district. um with the first project being the but apartments um where people are moving in um starting on May 15th. Um [clears throat] and um as we were wrapping that project up, we were trying to figure out what comes next. How do we move forward with um future housing for district employees? Um we um worked with the um now um the um education foundation of Jackson Hole um and secured a $30,000 grant from the community foundation to help us figure out as we looked at our strategic housing um study and then um um where how how can we move forward? How can we um finance future housing? Um and so um this project um would um hire NavigH um again to help us investigate research um bring
223together um potential um financing experts to help us figure out what those next steps might be. Um SPE was incredibly beneficial to our district. Um has resulted in a terrific project. Um but looking at um other funding opportunities um seems um appropriate uh for the district to just look at um how how do we move forward? Um and part of that I think the financing piece may also help inform um types of housing that the the board may want to consider going forward as we take time and look at our apartments. um figuring out kind of the right next mix. Um we do have the plan that says we can fit two more 24 unit buildings on that site, but you know, I think this financing um evaluation may help us figure out is that
224the right next project B for both from the financing side but also the needs side and just really looking at what options we may have. Um we looked at several other options. um with consultants um um I've talked to a couple in California and they said you need someone who has experience in Wyoming, who knows Wyoming because what we can do in California is not going to be an option for you in Wyoming. So um that was um how we ended up um looking to navigate JH and their familiarity with um our needs assessment and and where we're trying to go. So, um, again, it was a, uh, $30,000 grant from the community foundation. The funds will go to the education foundation and they will pay for, um, pay for this project. >> Thank you.
225Any questions, >> Madam Chair? >> I am sorry, Charlotte, but this is preposterous. You know, we figured out how to finance the first ones, right? Spent money includes money from out of state people, right? Mhm. >> What could be better than to have the tourists pay for housing, right? And you know, you went to this state land board, got the money, we've got something on the ground. Nobody else in this county who got affordable housing funding has anything on the ground. What do we need Christine Walker to tell us what the financing capabilities are? We know our limitations as a school district. Um, you know, I just think $30,000 for nothing. It's a boondock in my opinion and I will definitely vote against it. >> That com I guess um I'm not sure if this
226is a question for trusty me or or director Reynolds, but I I'm not a strategic needs assessment. First of all, I'm not sure where the money's coming from. Is is the community foundation already granted the money to the education foundation? >> Um uh madam chair the funds have uh the community foundation has awarded a grant um to the education foundation for this project. Um I just Reed and I sit on that board and I this is the first time hearing of it this so you know I'm not sure that that was my biggest question was where's the money coming from because if it's not been granted to the education already given to the education foundation then I'd like to sh that up before we start moving forward at all but I I guess the real
227question is is strategic needs assessment is what is that what does that look like because I hear what trusty meat saying and I'm just wondering what actually Navigate JH is going to do. >> Um, Madam Chair, so the grant was awarded in uh 2023. Um, we had gone back to the community foundation and said um where we are with a variety of different efforts um uh we we offered to give the funds back. um the community foundation basically de declined to accept the money back. They said they wanted us to move forward with this project and that they were committed to the funding um continuing to provide the funding. So the funds have been were awarded in 2023. They have continued to um ask us for updates on where you know where we were with
228this effort. Um the needs assessment has was already completed that was completed in 2022. Um so this would be a next step in saying um how do we how do we implement the next steps uh in that needs assessment. So basically, how do we develop, how do we finance future housing um with this bet being one funding source? Um but what other opportunities um might exist? and and can I sorry so what I'm trying to figure out is is what is it that they can do that um hasn't either already been done or can be done by I mean I think everybody will agree that housing is a problem in Ton County although I think I've pointed out I'm not sure how that impacts our teachers as much because I keep asking for that information
229so my question is is is What is it they're going to do? Tell us here's a new piece of land or are they going to say here's a here's a place to go to get finance? I mean, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like what actually is Navigate Jackson going or JH going to do? >> Um, Madam Chair, the the project the scope of the project is for them to um work with us and research um and determine financing options that are the district is allowed to pursue. Um, so that to to develop future housing. So it would be so we have a housing needs assessment that said here's what district employees have said have said they need for housing. Um, we have um a plan for um additional apartments by um by the
230currently um the Munger Mountain Elementary School site. There's additional property there. property over by Jackson Elementary School that the district owns. So, the needs assessment basically looked at all of the district-owned property and what types of housing could fit in and be appropriate in those locations. The board approved that plan um in um 2022. Um so then we um as we were looking at how to take the next steps in future housing, that's where this project came together. And I I would note that the community foundation actually came to the district and asked us to apply for this pilot funding or present a pilot project. They had funding that they specifically wanted to allocate towards housing. It was nowhere near enough to build anything. um but they felt that this was an appropriate um opportunity
231to put their money into um finding ways to provide additional housing in our community and in this case specifically for um district employees. >> Okay, >> Trusty Gingri, >> do you need this tonight? Is this something we could do next month? Um, Madam Chair, we can certainly um continue this. Um, I know the community foundation is anxious for us to spend these funds. Um, but um, >> we got architects need money. >> Um, yeah. Um, so they had they had allocated this grant. They want us to put the grant monies to work. U, but we can certainly um, we can certainly continue it. um and um um give it some more consideration. What is the appetite of the board? >> Madam Chair, if they may have more questions because I had some discussion, but I
232was just letting you do questions. >> Um any more any more question? >> More question. >> Any public comment? >> Thank you. >> Sure. Seeing none. >> Um the um >> I guess it was 2022 because I was chair then we hired Christine who owns Navigate and most I think everybody knows Christine used to run the alley authority. She's very familiar with our community at the time. She was actually Nate was in charge of that huge project up in Bosezeman and it turned out really nicely that um they did a very big housing project up in Boseman. She did a really nice study for us. Um and and that's not this isn't going to repeat that study. That study was great. It was uh which properties are available. They did a lot of interviews with
233all our teachers. What what's the need? Um what should be the mixture? What type of unit mixture? What kind of ownership rental versus ownership? We we had those long discussions. Um we had a long debate after we got that report from her. The report really helped us to sort of frame the conversation amongst ourselves because there was a long debate about should we put the money toward building sort of similar to Schwabacher but build it behind Munger. We have some land behind Mer and so we're going to build and those potentially were going to be ownership uh type units. Um, we had a very good conversation when we [snorts] finally determined rental units at the middle school. And when that actually got designed, it's designed for, as Trusty meat said, it's actually designed for three
234buildings. So, there's three buildings there. Um, I I think Trusty Me's also correct how we figured out how to pay for it turned out perfectly. I mean, it was a really great way of doing it. got the spat money, went and borrowed from Slim. Slip gave us the money so we could build right away, which trusting me is totally correct. We beat everybody. [laughter] Ours is ours is done. Uh SPE's going to pay back slip now. Uh as that money comes in, it was just a brilliant all the way around. Just great. I think what and I I I actually didn't know about this. That's why I was asking the question earlier, where did this money come from? because I'd forgotten this that they wanted us to use this money. I think what this could
235potentially be useful for um because I mean my personal opinion is I would prefer to just get on the sp again and repeat the whole same thing we just did and build a second building right next to the first building. That's that's my preference. But I remember at the time there's a lot on the board that discussed that we should potentially look at ownership units uh behind Munger. If you're looking at ownership units behind Munger, then that is sort of looking for a different finance type structure. Um it's like a Grove 2 where you're you're you're getting a construction loan and then you're uh figuring out how much you're going to how to sell each one. you're taking those funds that's paying off your construction loans. You convert it into a long-term loan. Um it's
236that's and then is us issuing bonds. Do we want to issue bonds? What would we use for the revenue to pay back bonds? You know, you can do lease backs where where you put up a building and building gets anyway the create a building corporation which the county has done a few times. Um there are a lot of other options. It really has to do with a do we want to just repeat what we just did that seems to have a good track record and just get on the spat build the second building borrow from slib and do the same thing that we know how to do. We don't need anyone to tell us. The question becomes did anyone on the board think they wanted to try one of these other options like ownership units
237behind m was I think there was others I can't remember them all now off the top of my head. If so, then we need to probably talk about what are the financing options, what what can government do, more importantly, what can a school district do. We're very limited because we don't have revenue options, you know, like the county or the town has where we can just go do something. You know, we can issue bonds, but you got to have I always laugh because everyone always says, "Oh, we'll just issue bonds." I'm like, you know, you have to pay those back somehow. You know, there's [laughter] got to be some something to pay them back with. Um anyway, I I think it's an interesting idea. Um we may want to wait a month, maybe continue it
238and think about it some more. But that was the concept. I I have no strong feelings about it other than I have strong feelings that I'd love to see a second building sitting next to that first building, >> you know. Well, you know, and based on that, you know, just knowing um about the application process and the lottery, you know, it was the smaller units that were most requested because I think the larger units by the time you have family big enough to go into those larger units, people were looking for something a little different. And so for me, I think there is opportunity to sort of consider, do we do something down at Munger? Do we do something at Jackson Elementary? I mean, I think I >> this is, you know, this worked so
239perfectly and it came in on time and, you know, all those kinds of things. But, you know, again, what does this, you know, what does are are we going to meet the needs of our staff if we do that or are there other opportunities to meet other staff needs? Well, I would add that before either of you were were on the board, we did Wilson Meadows >> and that was relatively complex, but we did it. And there's a footprint on how to do that. 99-year leases, you know, we we got construction loans and sold the units based on that. And you know people have ownership although you know we run 99 years. So to pay somebody to tell us this sort of thing when we have three lawyers sitting here to me is preposterous. And
240you know maybe the community foundation is in a situation where they just want to give away money for the hell of it. But it seems to me ridiculous. And I don't want Charlotte spending any of her time, valuable time, which she has little of it, um to have to administer this. >> Um it's an interesting subject. I've uh this came up I think when I was campaigning and starting to think about this issue because who do I talk to? But it became apparent to me that the board at least in setting policy has to make a decision moving into the future what we want. Meaning we had a bunch of one-bedroom units that I think are all spoken for, right? Those were the ones people apply for, but those aren't going to be people teachers
241generally that are going to be here long term like when people moved into Cottonwood or Rafter J or places like that. And the question that in a lot of articles I have read is is in large or excuse me in expensive mountain towns or even uh uh sea like beach town stuff like that where property values are difficult for a teacher to afford. The question is is are we going to be trying to entice the family teacher, hence living in a condo or a townhouse or something like that versus are we going to provide more housing to the teachers that are we know are only going to be here until they decide potentially look at starting their own family. And so for me that's for me I would offer up to the rest of you
242that that is a discussion to have based on what we saw already with these units going so quickly versus providing the meadows or other places like this where you're more providing a two-bedroom place where somebody could or threebedroom where somebody can raise a family. Um, I don't think I could be wrong that this assessment is going to help us in that. >> I don't see that. I think that's a discussion we have to have and I would suggest that at least I have questions maybe on some of these units and things that I've asked like why do teachers move on? the surveys we get back, things of that nature that I think would be more helpful than having somebody interview some teachers. And and and we can do surveys that way, too. I just don't
243I I I like trusty meter said, uh we have a banker, we have three lawyers. Uh I think we can figure out how to get around or do these financing issues. And more importantly, there are people out there that wouldn't like our business that do that as well. Right. So, I I think there's a bigger discussion here. Personally, I am all for kicking this down the road. If the community foundation wants to just spend its money, that's up to them. But I I think there's a lot of other things we could use help on based on our earlier discussions than this. We want to continue the conversation or >> I just didn't continue it. >> I move. Do we have to make a motion to continue? >> I move to continue this discussion till our
244June meeting. >> Second. Second. Sorry. >> Any more discussions? >> All in favor? >> I oppose. >> Motion passes. Uh consent agenda. >> Madam Chair. >> Yes. >> I move to approve the consent agenda. A approval of staffing considerations and reports. B approval of chapters. C. Approval of the executive committee meetings. Approval of the board exe of education regular meeting April 15th. Approval of the rec district advisory committee meetings of April 22nd. Approval of the board of education special meeting minutes of May 4th. Approval of the Teton Youth and Family Services Agreement. Approval of the JHS edition design services contract. I, approval of the pro finish painting purchase order for the interior painting at Jackson Elementary, Wilson Elementary and Summit Innovations. J, approval of all the May fundraising. K. Approval of the scoreboard donation from
245the Bank of Jackson Hole. L approval of Dacttronics purchase order for scoreboard replacement at Jackson Hall High School, William T. Macintosh Stadium. M. Approval of whole landscaping contract and purchase order for safety netting at Summit Innovation School and Jackson Hall Middle School. N. Approval of Rocky Mountain boiler contract and purchase order for glycol replacement at Jackson Hall High School. O. Approval of Raptor Technologies purchase order for safety and security initiatives. B. Approval of affordable road and drive purchase order. Q. Approval of carpets plus color title contract for flooring replacement at Jackson Elementary School, Wilson Elementary School, and Summit Innovation School. And lastly, R approval of the Bureau of Land Management right away. Uh that's all. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> There is a motion and a second. All in favor?
246I >> opposed. Motion carries. Communications to the board. There are um looks like 11 um letters that we have received and all red. Um thank you people. Uh thank you to those who have reached out to us and um engaged with the process. Uh communications from the board. Is there any communication from the board? >> Madam Chair, just I reiterate that that the CWC $27 million new building is just amazing. Um that was impressive and I always find it interesting, you know, the consent agenda is a great tool, but at the same time I wish sometimes um we went through each one because some of these on here this month are just amazing. in particularly the scoreboard donation from the Bank of Jackson Hole. That is such a big deal and that is a huge
247thank you to the Bank of Jackson Hole and that relationship that we have with them. Um Christine mentioned earlier we don't get fees from them. It it's just a a wonderful community partner that should definitely be praised. Um, I was also impressed with um how nice Jackson Elementary, uh, Wilson Elementary and Summit are going to look next fall with all of their new paint and all their new carpeting and all [clears throat] the beautiful stuff they're going to have um next fall. So, I look forward to seeing all three of those schools looking amazing. And um oh and I was so excited that the um Jacksonville High School Edition design service contract was approved and we can move ahead. I think that's going to be an exciting process and I I know Principal Lieberman's looking
248forward to it. I think it's just going to be a great addition to the high school. >> That's for sure. >> Uh any other uh communication from All right. Future agenda items, scheduling and topics. Other than the continued item, is there anything else? All right. Review of meeting. >> It was a fine meeting. [laughter] There seemed to be no bathroom break for the longest. [laughter] >> Poor Jerry's dying down there. >> I know. I usually like to stop between 7:30 and 8 and there wasn't a break, an [clears throat] obvious break. All right. Uh let's see. Advanced planning. You can read that. All right. Trusty Dorn, we're ready. >> Um I move that we >> Yes. >> Is there a second? >> All right. Thank you everybody. Thank you everybody for hanging in there with
249us. Oh, isn't that nice?