001[Music] Okay. Uh, I'm going to bring this meeting of the Sean County School Board, uh, June, uh, 11, 2025, back to order at 6:01 p.m. We're first thing on the agenda is to say the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice. Um next on the agenda is to um read something from our miss vision and values. Um, we value students, trust, kindness and respect, challenging standards, fairness and equity, resilience, perseverance, and personal achievement. Uh, do uh we need to approve the agenda, Madam Chairman. Uh, Trustee Scarlet, I would request from the consent agenda, item number eight, approval of the Wyoming High School Activities Association membership application to be taken from the consent places number uh, I guess
00218 on the action items. Uh, we have a So I would I would move the agenda with that amendment. Second. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. We um move on to the superintendence report, but I am going to start. And um first of all, I just wanted to recognize a public that we just had a a short but lovely um celebration of our retirees this year. And it um is always sad to see such excellent talent leave. Um but um we know that there comes a time where you have want to go on your next venture and I wish them all uh luck and uh great fun of their next next adventure and and with that said uh we are also losing someone else near and dear to our heart. Uh Dr. Chapman is
003um leaving us at the end of this month. This is her last board meeting and she has been here as long as I've been on the board and so it will be a new adventure for all of us uh to um welcome Dr. Chris to the helm. But in the meantime, we are very sad to be losing you. Uh you've done tremendous things for the for the school district and we are so appreciative and so grateful. Um, so thank you for your 10 years of service and I'm going to bring this over to you. Thank you. That's lovely. Nice. And I also wanted to mention that there is a public farewell for um Dr. Chapman tomorrow at the word hotel from 4 to 6 o'clock. And so please come and join us. on to now
004I'll turn the superintendent's report over to the superintendent for the last time. Thank you very much. Um this is the best part of all the agendas for me especially. Um the last day of school in my opinion, I've said it every year is the worst day of school. I hate it. Um it's I know it's a time of celebration and lots of um wonderful things coming to an end, but um school is just not and being in the school district is never fun in the summertime. So um everything we do is about our students and so it's a joy to celebrate them. Um so with that, I'm going to turn over to Mike Hansen. Thank you, Superintendent Chapman. We still waiting on a few people so we're going to switch and we're gonna have the
005music go first. M principal Liberman, if you want to come on over real quick. I'll get Mr. Uh, Madame Chair, trustees, it's my pleasure this evening to introduce Colin Binko, our Milin educator of the year, TCSD musical director and director of the choir, band, and orchestra and guitar at the high school, who's going to tell us a little bit about our musicians accomplishments. ments this year. Paul, thank you. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you so much for taking the time to acknowledge all the hard work that these kids have put in. Um, this year we traveled to not only our state festival, um, but competed in a national regional music festival. Um, at our state festival, our students did spectacularly. Our orchestra received top honor in the state with a superior rating.
006Our choir and band also received an excellent rating with our choir a half a point away from receiving top honors in the state this year. Um really a ton of progress and improvement when you look on scores we've had in the past and really a lot of momentum happening here. Um that was two days before we traveled to Denver to participate in the music in the parks festival. Um it was a long bus ride down to Denver. I'm a little chaotic on the way there, but um the kids did fantastic and absolutely represented their school and themselves first musically spectacularly. Um with orchestra and band taking first their division and choir taking second, but more importantly um we received the spirit corp award. Um this award is given, we didn't know about this until we
007arrived there. this award is given to um the school or the ensemble or the group that really shows most respect, goes out of their way um as courteous, as kind as all these things. You know, any of these kids, they'll tell you like, I honestly don't care if you're good at music or not. I care that you come out of my class finding a community, finding something that you could be a part of, something you could better yourself of, something that you know how to carry yourself in this community and represent Jackson and Jackson High School. Um, so this award was given um for how the kids represent themselves in the festival hall when we were competing. Not only did they watch and encourage other groups, but they went out of their way to help
008each other, to help other people out. It was voted on by the staff, by the other directors there. Um, and really I I can't tell you how proud I am of these kids and the way that they represented themselves and represented our community um, out in Denver. So, the Spirit of Core Award was the highlight of that trip um, for all the hard work that they put in um, with that. and and all the hard work, none of this would have been possible. And I'm going to take this moment while I'm up here for a couple seconds. I'll keep it short. Um, just to acknowledge a couple people in the community that have banded around our music program. Um, it's much more than just me up at the high school. Um, there's a full team
009and starting with Ton Music School and Amanda Flobos. Um, she brought in Lisa Shrock, um, all the way from Michigan, front end of the bill with Grand Teton Music Festival to bring in a a string clinician to work with our kids and do a winter string fest. Um that clinician impacted sixth through eighth grade as well as provided professional development for me and Mr. G. Um Amanda has also been instrumental in Emma Bitner, music teacher at Coulter and a before school fifth grade string program and an afterchool um rock band program with Clint Weaver. So all of these things impacting fifth graders, getting them more invested into our music program. Um really empowering them to become leaders when they arrive at middle school and then as you see through leaders that you see here today.
010Cathedral Voices. It's been um Laura Huckin has not only accompanist for us, but we've had Angela Jordan and Satie Frank twice a month coming in to work with us at the high school and the coral world pulling out small groups working with individuals. Um has been super instrumental and they also brought in Cody Raven Morris um whose impact was super palpable in our community. Um, also again providing professional development for our music team, K12, um, and really setting the tone and showing the kids that the district and your support and everything that value the arts and really take the time to, um, to build these kids up. Um, Heather Reed um, came in last minute to be our company on the Denver trip. Nurse Beth stepped in two days before the trip when we had
011another issue with the Companist and she was awesome. Bob and CJ, bus drivers, became part of our family on that trip. Really went above and beyond. um we're just absolutely can't say as much good things as I can. And then lastly, a name that doesn't get enough recognition in this town, but Ashley Hernandez Selena's um from the Grand Teton Music Festival last year, shortly after I spoke to you guys. Um I met with her and she asked just a blanket question of how can she help music? Um and she has done so much. um from bringing festival musicians who have met with us um once a week throughout the school year in band and orchestra to help give private lessons to work with small groups to work with our brass section. Um she's done that
012not only she brought in the a violinist from the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and a Grand Teton Festival musician here that spent a week with us with Star Valley collaborating and doing a first high school string fest at Walkall um which was absolutely fantastic. They've put their money where their mouth is and it provided free tickets, student tickets, discount tickets to all festival events. When Mike Block Trio was just here, she arranged them to come in and do a clinic with our kids. Um, I can't say enough good things about Grand Teton Music Festival and I'm excited to announce that next year we're going to have four weeks worth of musician residencies at the high school. Um these are festival musicians who they're bringing up at different times throughout the year to be embedded for the
013full school day for a week with a thought of not only teaching individual lessons, you know, akin they all our college professors, all our top musicians, um but really give our kids these experiences of highlevel musicianship um that you wouldn't find in any other town in Wyoming um is really going to be special. I think transformative um as we continue to grow. Our ensembles are doubling at the high school. Our middle school has a strong movement of music happening there. And lastly, um I'm just going to shout out the praise of Melissa Elliott um who backfilled me at the middle school. She bid on a lot, but she has done a fantastic job. Her dedication, her hard works, if you made it to the choir concert, she had a full band, kids doing flips on
014stage, um did a tremendous job. It was an absolutely wonderful event in her first year as a teacher. Um, I'm so excited to see where she's going to grow and develop um, in our district. So, thank you for the support of these kids. Thank you guys for your hard work. You know, you guys are the reason why we can do all these things and the dedication that you guys have put in. So, um, our Jackson Whole Music Ensembles have them say, you want to say your name and what you play or what you sing? So, my name is Martin. I play the cello. I'm like first chair in our in our orchestra and I qualified for all state this year which was great. We had three students qualify for all state um ending a drought
015and we're hoping for 10. Go ahead. My name is Tanya. I play violin and I'm here in the orchestra and I didn't make statements here. But she's still amazing. I'm Via Goss. I play second violin and I'm first chair. Uh my name is Audrey Torson. I play violin, second violin, second chair. First is the worst, second is the best. And my name is Gonzalez and I play second b. My name is Carson. I play trombone, but I just graduated this year. So, congratulations. Congratulations. Uh I'm Katie Balden. I'm first percussionist and I also graduated this year. I'm standing in choir. I'm Lady McDonald. I'm also in choir. Excellent. most. Okay. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to recognize some of our athletes as well today, including our activities and know our athletes. First person I'm
016going to bring up here is our softball coach, Coach Lauren Poe. um to talk about her student who got a good sportsmanship award winning um Kate Man. Go ahead, coach. Hello. Thank you for having me. My name is Lauren Hoe and this is Kate Man. Uh Kate Man is one of our two seniors this year and she got the sportsmanship award against Campbell County. It was one of our first weekends. Uh she had hit the first home run ever for Jacksonville High School against the number one team in the state. Um and it was a huge moment for our program. I'll remember it. Um, anyway, Kate's been a great leader for us. She's going to continue playing softball at Arizona Christian University and she's going to represent Jackson. Uh, we're really grateful for the opportunity
017to play softball here, so thank you so much. Uh, the next lady we have was Pearl Enman. She isn't able to make it tonight. Uh, Pearl is a really fun person to be around and we are grateful for her. She also got this award in the Campbell County game. Uh, she had a torn ACL a couple years ago and her comeback has been awesome. her attitude is amazing and she inspires me to be a better coach. So, um these are the two girls who got our sport awards and we're grateful for you guys. Thank you. I should mention uh Coach Ho was actually the conference coach of co-conference coach of the year this year as well. Congratulations to coach. Um, next up I'm going to introduce someone you've seen for a number of years in
018a row. Um, Coach Heller. He's going to come on up and talk about his boys soccer team. Um, it was a fantastic tournament in Gillette, except for the rain on Friday, Saturday rather, but otherwise it was great. Coach, uh, trustees, thanks for having us tonight. Well, uh, the first person I'd like to talk about is actually Will Fryman. Will Will's a sophomore and he earned a good sportsmanship award also and um I'll tell real quick story is that we had a JV2 program last year uh which like a second JV and he worked really hard at that level, made the JV this year uh due to that just hard work and this year I think he could really earn the good sportsmanship award every single game. uh it's just kind of who he is as
019a young man and I'm really proud of him and look forward to two more years of uh working with Will. So here's a part of my team um from the varsity squad and I'd like them to introduce themselves um and um take it from there. Audi. I'm Audi West. I'm center captain and I'm a senior plan on going to Lehi in the fall. I'll probably play some club soccer right back. [Music] My name is Ky. I'm an attacking midfielder and I'm a junior. My name is Steph and My is my name is Carl and I was a left bag and I'm in 11th grade. My name is Ryan Fangan. I'm a bully and I'm also a junior. Uh I'm William. Uh my name is Liam Logan. I play right back at center back and I
020am a junior. Hello, my name is Gonzalz. I play center but I play wing this year and I'm fresh. Uh couple highlights of the season. Uh you know we have been here this five of the last five of the last six state championships we've won. Um which is just amazing um for a program. Uh this is our first ever undefeated season. Um, we've never accomplished that uh before. And we also had six first team all-state players. Um, our goalie Alexi Blog. Um, Irving was all state. Um, uh, Kyum was all state at the midfield position or forward position. Audi was all state at the midfield position. And that's that's here today. But we had six total. Um, and I would just say that, uh, this team is a joy to coach. They always have been.
021Um, and it was really special this year to, um, the camaraderie that we had with the girls program, which you're about to see in just a second, was uh, just really special. Uh, cheering each team on and these guys root for them at the regional tournament, at the state tournament. uh we do picnics together uh at those events and it was just really cool to see uh the community of soccer um have as much accomplishments as we did this year. Um and it's just a really tribute to how this team bonds together um and then also supports um just soccer in general. Um and just you'll see these guys on the fields almost every day including uh in the offseason and that's why I think we've just had so much success over the years. So,
022I'd like to thank them uh because it's just a joy uh in my life. So, thank you, boys. And it was another great season. Okay. And now we're going to turn it over to another coachure. um for the first time the first 48 girls state championship in school history. So I'll go ahead and turn over to coach thanks for having us. I'm very excited to introduce these girls. Um they made history. They scored 87 goals. Uh they only lost three games and they went back and beat those same teams at state and regionals. So we had a flawless state and regional tournament. Uh, we won together. We won with style. Uh, because of Pearl. We won with good sportsmanship. Pearl has an uncanny ability to go flying over goalkeepers from the opposing team. She's our
023most acrobatic player. Um, and then she gets up and makes friends with them. So, it all works out really well. Um because there's so many of us and because you're busy, I'm just going to ask my seniors and captains to introduce themselves and tell us um who you are and where you're going. Um my name is Lindsay Fo. I play right back and I'm going to the University of Virginia next year. Um my name's Ella. I play rightwing and I'm going to university this year. My name is Caroline. I'm going to Ed Community College in Washington State and I'm the Casper teacher. I'm Charlie Rumble. I am a junior. I'm the goalkeeper and I'm also the captain. My name is Helshire. I'm also a captain. I play second mid and I'm excited to win state
024again next year. One thing I a couple more compliments for this team. This is an all academic superstar team. Uh we also have three sets of sisters which is pretty special. We lost one to injury this year, but um it felt like family and especially felt like family with the boys cheering us on. All the coaches in the rest of the state said, "What you guys have is really special. Um the other teams don't do that." So, it was pretty fantastic. Super proud of these girls and super excited to get back to work for next year. Thanks so much, It looks a little soft. Madam Chair, that concludes our celebrations for students. Um, so it's going to be pretty hard to get this meeting back in order. We believe in you. All right. Uh, let's
025see. So, we're going to move on to student school board member introductions. As you can tell, um there are new faces at the student school board uh table. Um in the last couple of weeks, there were interviews and um Trusty Me and Trusty Dornan selected this year's group of student schoolboard members, and we're really excited to see how what you do next year. Um would one of you like to introduce them? Hi, I'm Kate Meade, Madam Chair, I'm delighted to introduce um Georgiana Miller there on the left. Um would you tell us a little bit about yourself? Um sure. My name is Georgiana. Um I'm an rising senior at high school. I've gone there for four years and I would love our high school students and students across the district that they have a directly
026to the school board who us more aware of what's to come. Thank you. And we have Na. My name is Na and I'm a rising senior as well and I would like to include as many people around the district um in more school activities in school in the school community as finally Louisa. My name is Lisa Sartumia and I'm also a ringing senior and I feel like something that would interest me most is helping students succeed after high school. Great. And Louisa asked to make a speech tonight to her gym for her gymnastics coach. So, she'll be leaving a little early and we appreciate you coming. Thank you. Thank you very much. And madame um chairman uh chairwoman we the students have senior or um finals tomorrow. So um on their behalf I'm respectfully asking
027that they get to leave early maybe now. Absolutely. You're welcome to go study. We'll see a lot more of you in the coming months. Thank you. All right. Next, we have the um district leaders report. Um and uh does anybody have any questions? Well, I have two comments and a question. Um let's see. So, uh, just, um, in response to the work-based learning that was described at the high school level, um, I in fact had an intern from the high school in my classroom this year and I really enjoyed it and I thought it was I I mean I just love the idea of the program and I would be as somebody on the other side I would have been happy to be even more engaged in some way um to help it you know
028help increase the engagement not that Lucy wasn't engaged, but help increase the learning in the in the process. So, I just want to make that comment. I also wanted to comment and I think it's um Monzerat um who was the um spelling the Spanish spelling bee champion for Munger Mountain and won the state. Was that correct? uh she is the Wyoming uh state representative at the national pitch and I thought that that would needed to be called out because that's a pretty amazing celebration. It's the fourth or eighth grade competition. So that's really a long way. So that is great. And then um in the surveys, the family surveys um several principles talked about that throughout the district leaders report and family efficacy um was mentioned several times and I was hoping there could be
029a description of what that is because um I think I know but I thought it'd be nice to have that clarified. Madam Chair, trustes. Absolutely. Um the survey that was referred to in the district leaders report um we will be providing comprehensive survey results to the board this summer and early fall. So you see all schools in a district picture. Um when we say family efficacy we're really talking about how confident a family feels in regards to their parenting skills. So we ask questions around how confident are you that you can motivate your child to learn at school? How confident are you in your ability to connect with other parents? How confident are you in your ability to support your child's learning at home? How confident are you in your ability to make your child's
030school meet your child's learning needs? So, it really kind of comes down to the parents confidence and what they can do to support their child. This year, we saw an uptick in that survey across the board. We attribute to that the excellent work of Piper Worthington, the FAC committee and some very specific partnerships with those parents and the principles to come up with strategies. We will share some of the more comprehensive data with you um this summer and fall. Thank you. Um that it ends districtly. Oh, Madame Chair, I asked uh our facilities director, Diana Hard, to clarify for me with regards to the new housing project. Um what is uh the meant or why are total costs keep going down rather than up? So I thought so then I thought maybe you all would
031like to know the explanation to that. Thank you. Thank you. Um good evening trustees. So yeah, in response and I hope you got my email um about the response, but um we made an arrangement with that contract. So the district is purchasing all the materials and supplies directly. Um so you'll see in the report for that project, there's a number of deductive change orders for those direct purchases. And so what happens is the original contract, the price for all those materials is in the contract, but they send um receipts and proof of purchases to the district. We pay for them and then they're reimbursed. We take it out of the contract through a deductive change order. And the result of that is to date um we have saved about 55 almost $56,000 in sales tax.
032So that helps for the deduction and that's the main savings um taking place and then there's also the contract is structured so there's a shared cost savings. So the um contractor has control over the contingency funds. um any change orders, deductive or additive, the district approves, but they are able to use that um as they need to if prices come in a little above or below what um they anticipated. But as a result of that, any money that's saved, we split with the contractor 5050. So, right now we're estimating about $270,000 of shared savings, um, which is cumulative for the direct purchases and the shared savings. Thank you. Thank you. Hooray. Saving money. Saving money. We like to hear it. Good for you. Thank you. Any other This is Diana's lesson, Brad. Uh well, thank
033you very much for your time and dedication. You have paid a paid attention to a lot of things and accomplished a lot of things and we really appreciate it. Good luck. All right. Anything else from the superintendent? With that, we will move on to finance committee report. Madam chair, we met a week ago with the finance committee and we had a riveting discussion over the budget presentation which you are now about to have yourself as we prepare to approve it next in July at our annual budget hearing. July 15 16 uh I will say that this year in finance committee we went over the budget in more detail than I've gone over the budget in the last eight and a half years that I've been here. So that was a fun conversation but it's always
034good to kind of get back to the roots and go over some of the details that we don't always touch in on in the meetings. Uh Andrea if you'll open the presentation. This this is a summary of big picture topics that we've talked about to prepare this budget for next year. Uh the first being the Teton County assessed value. Uh second page. So as you know the legislature this year in February passed um property tax relief for the entire state. And what that's done to our Teton County assess revenue um or assessed value is it has essentially decreased the reported assessed value. I have an email into Melissa Shinkle and Katie Smith at the county. I know they're overwhelmed and really busy right now, but I'm trying to get the number of what our assessed
035value would have been had we not had the tax the property tax cuts so we can do a bit of a comparison on what that will do that would have had for our revenue. And I think that'll be an important number to have during the um reccalibration process to say this is how it's impacted basically the Wyoming state funding model because this year we're only sending 69 million back where last year we sent 79 million back and what I'd like to quantify that number so that we're prepared to testify at the recalibration meetings. Uh but for us locally the 25 mills will result in uh n almost 97 million. Um the six mills will result in just just over 23 million for a total revenue of 120 million. Our next page please. Our estimated foundation
036guarantee for next year is 59 million which means we'll be sending approximately 69 million in recapture money back to the state. uh on the side here of this and it's kind of small. Andre, I don't know if you can blow that up at all. Um I track our total recapture and entitlement. So when we first started on this funding model through the state, we were an a recapture district and through the years um especially during the downturn of the economy when property values decreased, we flipped over to be an entitlement district uh and then quickly came back to be a recapture district as property values increased. But you can see over the course of this funding model, if you go all the way to the bottom, uh our total recapture is right around 370 million
037380 million where entitlement we only received 11 million from the state or almost 12. Uh and that's a great number. when I run the actual our foundation guarantees, I think my number was a little bit off, but our total cost of education over those years is right around 650 million. Uh I think the math was off, so I didn't include that number because I think it's wrong, but um I think those are good numbers to have going into this process this year. uh changes in funding. We know we've talked a lot about the ECA this year and what that garnered our district. Um this was the biggest change in the funding model. We'll have some small changes when it comes to ADM and uh some of the other little pieces but this was the biggest
038change in our funding model this year. Changes in expenditures we have seen uh these the biggest change and increase to our budget was health insurance. I ju did just attend a WBO meeting the last two days in Cody. We talked a lot about health insurance. It is something that they're including in the topics of the recalibration meetings. uh I don't know what to to what extent they'll try and update this piece of the model but it is an important one and I think the most important conversation to have is that our funding for health insurance is based on the state plan and the state often backfills their health insurance plan. So their premiums aren't reflective of the rising cost of health insurance. Um, so where we see a direct we see a direct increase in
039our premiums, but what the state will do in order to not increase premiums for its employees, they'll actually put more money from either from their reserves or from their revenue into their state health insurance plan. So the premiums don't go up, but then that impacts our funding and our funding model because that's how they calculate what we get funded for insurance. Can I ask a quick question? Um, so what has been I'm not sure if you know this off your head? We had a 22 and a half% increase in premiums last year. Do we are we tracking that over history? And what do we think we're going to do next year? Well, this was a big adjustment year because this was the first year that we had the one plan where we can it it
040we can be more predictive. Uh what we're trying to do is get to that five-year plan and set thresholds of what's an acceptable increase where we don't have to go through this process every year. Um, to me, I feel like we need to set that and I think that that's something that you all will be talking about in your retreat about setting fiscal goals. Um, I think we could do that for health insurance. Say, okay, what's an acceptable increase every year and what can we budget for? Is that 5% 10%? If it's within this range, can we just roll through and not have to reinvent this wheel every year or do we want to continue to look at it every year and take feedback and do the health insurance steering committee? I think sometimes, especially
041when we get staff members that haven't been on the steering committee before and they start to learn about this process, it it kind of refreshes all of the old wounds um that we've already done a lot of education about. The more staff that know the ins and outs of this process, the better. Um but also, you know, we don't want to keep scratching the same surface. Are we going to be able to continue to offer full family coverage or do we need to have start having that conversation? I absolutely we need think we need to start having that conversation. Uh and what I'm seeing in the budget isn't necessarily the cost of health insurance. There's going to be a lot that we need to talk about this year through recalibration. Uh there's probably going to
042be a ton of scary bills that get proposed. Who knows what will actually be passed in February. Um but that being said, you know, we we have a lot of area other areas in the district that we've peeled back from or been been very conservative with that we need to we need to invest money in. One would be um technology. We see that this year uh the refresh we had to you know put that lease back in because we don't have those err funds anymore. And so there's there's places I think facilities is is a good one where we do need to start allocating some more money and the only only place that we have is salaries and benefits and we're at 84% of our general fund uh expenditures are in salaries and benefits. Right
043now, if you look at our budget, our entire um salaries and benefits for next year are budgeted at $60 million and our foundation guarantee is $59 million. So, we can essentially say we are putting our entire foundation guarantee into salaries and benefits and the rest of our operational budget is coming from other revenue sources within the district. So, that would be our interest earnings. Um, and we could go through each of those revenue sources separately, but you know, it's to say that I don't I'm I'm hoping that the legislature does the right thing and increases salaries. How's that? We'll see. Um, step increase, technology refresh, cleaning contract. A lot of these contract services are going to continue to escalate in price um just because of inflation and we had some additional teacher positions as well.
044Uh and those are listed on the next page. We had five and a half new certified positions and two classified positions that we added um for fiscal year 26. Okay, the next page talked about this a little bit last uh last month. Thank you, Trustee me. Our estimated cash reserve balance and this is a a pure projection on my part um as of the end of May is about 4.1 last year was about 3.5. The number that I have at the end of June on June 30th does ne does not ever match the audited financial statements because they they measure cash reserve balance on an acrruel basis. It's the only number in all of our financials that the state looks at the acrruel basis and not the cash basis. So this will be our cash
045basis or this will be pretty close to our cash basis basis cash reserve balance. The the annual audit usually shows a different number. It's typically a little higher because we have deposits that come in in July from property taxes. Um, Madame Chair, and $4,172,000 anticipated cash balance, that does not cover one month of expenditures, Mr. President. It does not. It does not. And and I think I think that's a healthy conversation to have is what is our fiscal goal? What is our goal to have? Um and then that's that's another piece of we may not be able to offer full family health in order to accomplish some of those fiscal goals that we need to set. Yeah. Well, you know, really what concerns me is uh you know, the uh the unlikely but possible scenario
046where, for example, the federal government doesn't res reimburse us for special ed or the state doesn't reimburse us. And those are big numbers when that happens um that we could not anticipate. And um you know the cost of um cost of energy which you've already indicated could go up a lot. I was just listening to NPR and they said in France because Russia invaded Ukraine the cost of energy went up like 36%. Well something like that happened you know and god forbid you know we wouldn't make it through. Well, and it that's a great point. And one of the conversations that I had this on Monday and Tuesday with some other business managers was because of the unpredictability of their mineral property taxes. We're lucky because our our property tax revenue that we receive is
047much more dependable than this weird payment schedule now that the state has implemented on mineral taxes. and um they have actually not been either not been able to either pay back their cash loan that they've received in August or not been able to pay their recapture money uh because they didn't receive the revenue. And I definitely think that's something that um maybe is a topic in the retreat is uh what do we do if they take away the RCA next year and are we going to approach that as we shouldn't pay back any of our recapture money until we work through whatever that process is. But, you know, that's that's a place where we're in a position where we control those funds and, you know, we we could play hard ball if we wanted to.
048Thank you. That is it for the budget presentation, unless anyone has any questions on the full budget. Question. We need a a group vote of stuff against We do need a full photo of the board. I usually have one in the budget. I I think we haven't had all seven yet together. So maybe next month we can quickly add that. Oh yeah, I won't. You're next. Really? I'll be online. We could you could als [Laughter] comm trustees uh the purpose of our conversation tonight is just to give you an update of a chapter rule that is being looked at at the state level. So just as a refresher, uh chapter 31 is being provided you to look at. This is a draft um being reviewed by the um state board of education right now. Um
049chapter 31 specifically is about graduation requirements. when we talk about graduation requirements. This is the baseline and then a board determines their own local policy on what they want it to look like. So, there's a lot of strikethroughs, some confusion. I just wanted to bring to your attention just a few very specific areas for tonight, not diving into the entirety of the document. Um, there have been some changes in 31. there is um a movement toward a competency based option for high schools across the country um actually including some middle schools. When we say competency based go right there you will see in B um there's an insertion that's new language for competency based examinations um in order for students to earn credit in a nontraditional seat time environment. Now what does that mean? We
050will see. It's trying to provide options for high school students to earn credits differently than the traditional model of going to class every day, seat time in a desk, the model, the traditional model that we all very accustomed to. So competency looks at skills. Let's see this in parenthesis. Coursework is being redefined as well. It's including learning experiences both traditional timebound and competency based. So what they're trying to do is different alternative ways for kids to be engaged in classes whether it be the workbased learning opportunities that principal Lieberman and the high school are doing an excellent job on accelerating just giving kids different opportunities to earn credits. go down to next page. One of the main purposes I'll be bringing this forward tonight review there's no action needed. It's more of an information item
051is that in chapter 31 there'll be very specific language around portrait under the graduate for learner profile skills and how we as a district will look at assessing these kids. Um districts are reviewing ideas, talking about it. There's no definitive answer on how you assess skills. We've talked about this at the board level before. It's complex. It's can be subjective. However, this insertion in section three kind of provides opportunities for local districts to determine what they feel is best in assessing skills. We already, just so you know, we have a a good step in place the secondary level around our EVG practices. We look at skills and measuring that in students in addition to content standards. So, we're taking a step. So, we're not behind the statute, but we still have some work to do
052on how we do this in a really effective way with kids. This is new language. Anything that I put in yellow, we'll use new kind of make it a little more clear because I know the document can be confusing. Matter. Uh, so think critically and creativity creativly to solve complex problems. How do you measure that? That's the holy grail question. Trusty Scarlet is, you know, we have measurement systems right now that we need and support um from standardized measurements to know where kids are to act tests. We know our standardized system. What we're going to have to really think about going forward is how you create more of a balanced system without creating too much workload to the classroom. This is not easy to do for a teacher to have these balanced systems. But we
053also know that we should be painting the picture of the whole child too. Like how can we do that better as a system and not just from one metric. That's that's the end goal of this. Um and it's going to take some time. It's going to take some iterations. It's going to take trying some things to really see what we can do to to measure this with students. The state also has uh put out there for public review what they call learning progressions. So what they'll do is they'll take a competency like data critically and they will actually define what that looks like in a proficient level in K5 68 912. So if a student is giving a performance based assessment and I'm assessing that student, I can use a pro a progression metric to
054see where a student is and you check it all essentially kind of like a rubric. But these are all tools that have to be refined and aren't aren't clear quite yet. There's going to be some work that you have to do in chapter 31. Last thing I want to bring to your attention, if you could scroll down um to the next page. Scrolling. So this is right here right there on this is what the board is historically traditionally looked at. Chapter 31 kind of calls out numbers of uh content years of a of a content area. Four years of English, three years of math, three years of science, three years of social studies. the language that's underlined. You can see that the addition to that is getting into that competency based conversation on how does
055a student earn that credit. So if it's three years of math and we require four, the student earns the four, but they can earn it in different ways versus a traditional seat time way depending on the district support. Districts will make their own decisions on this. So you can see this is the this page is the page that we looked at historically in TCSD when we developed graduation policy around credits and classes. So this is a draft. This will be discussed probably for the next half year. We're going to talk about it tomorrow in full transparency. I have a Wyoming state schoolboard meeting tomorrow all day. This will be on our agenda and it'll come up um for further revisions and discussions, but I just wanted to get ahead of it with you so you
056understand what the state was discussing in in regards to graduation requirements. Madam Chair, uh Dr. Chris, it looks like the implementmentation that they're hoping to get done is by um the 2728 school year. Do you think that's going to happen or do you think that will it will take a lot longer to do to come up with this? Uh trusty me that question I think will really be confronted with the review of the state accountability system. Oh yeah. So the state accountability system right now as you know depends on a lot of factors primarily WTO correct and ACT at the high school and college readiness. A lot of folks around the state feel that this the legs behind this sort of shift or this balance as we say not not complete shift will just continue
057to hit a wall until skills become part of the accountability system because where's the meat in it? Where does it really go? So if the accountability system tweaks a little bit that timeline could work. If it doesn't, I'm fearful that it'll it'll be a conversation ongoing. Thank you. Question. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to other reports. First one is a construction update. Hello again. So, I have update for you on the 24 unit housing, which we talked a little bit before um with Kate's question about the cost share savings, and that project's reaching about 50% complete. Um if you looked at the photos, they're starting to do drywall, so all of the electrical roughening is being completed and mechanical rough in. So, that's moving along nicely. So, I stand for any questions on that.
058And then the second capital project is our transportation building. And we have um we received three bids for that on the 21st. And we have a item on the agenda later on to ask for the board's approval of a recommendation for a general contractor. Any questions? M chair. I have a just a statement regarding the housing. Um, we probably need to go forward with the RFP to find a property manager or have that discussion if we want to have a property manager to manage all of our housing okay units. Um, so um, whoever that might be draw something up and to discuss it maybe the July meeting. Okay, that's good. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks, Diana. All right. Uh let's see. Update on the Mercer study. Dr. Chapman. Thank you. Um trustees. Uh I prepared a
059timeline of actions that the school district has undertaken and really the intent for me was um to express my disappointment frankly that um this is something that we've invested a lot of time in and I was hopeful to get this across the finish line. I had I had uh three things on my list that I really wanted to see happen. one was the sewer transfer. Uh the second one was this one and then a third one was a different issue that will be happening. Um but um so this timeline I developed um is is to provide a history of what we've been through in order to see the the um most coste effective remedy become a reality at the high school. And um so I admit that I started this timeline um with the intent
060of of just looking back and saying everything we've tried hasn't worked and um a lot of concern about the process and the process is not equitable. It is not forward thinking and it's just really an exercise in futility. Um, I I keep a journal. Um, and two years ago, um, as of Thursday night, we were in Buffalo. And my comment in that journal, um, in Buffalo after that meeting was, well, we attended another meeting and it is hopeless. And in two years have gone by and it feels like we're in the same boat. However, today I get a phone call from director Dell McComy and um so my hope is yet again lifted. I feel a little delayed. Um so um in the conversation with Director McComy um two things um we talked about on
061June 25th uh there's a commission meeting and they will be considering an emergency request for funding to um create a single stall bathroom at Summit due to the unfunded mandate of um sex designated restroom and locker room facilities. and that's the only facility that we cannot accommodate a reasonable request of a single stall. So that funding um will be considered for emergency approval by the commission and hopefully we can get um the uh contractor to um work very swiftly. Um the permitting process um in the town is lengthy. Um so that's likely to be the biggest delay that we face. Um so hopefully we can get moving because uh the law went into effect on March 3rd upon signature. So um and the penalties are fairly significant for non-compliance. Um the second thing Director McComy
062informed me of is at the June 25th um mo uh commission meeting that they would be considering a separate most costeffective remedy study for a vestibule at the high school. So instead of considering it as a part of the most costeffective remedy for the remodel and addition to the high school, they're considering it separately. So once again, we'll be able hopefully to commence that work swiftly and that's a much needed um element for our school district. Um so those two things gave me some hope. Um and then his third um question was to engage um with uh Kurt Dubie um and Dubie Moulder Architects who are the um design team that um has done our Bron Achievement Center. And so, Director Mccomi had some very specific um inquiries about the cost of building in Teton
063County um and some other very specific questions that um he'll be working directly with um Kirk Dubie on. So to me that signaled some hope that maybe we're we're compromising and coming together. Um and in the event that um you know after June 25th or in the future things stall out again um I believe this historical perspective um provides some some um path forward and um I I think that the the creation of the state construction department was probably a good idea at some point But somewhere down the road, the train has really gone off the tracks. And I don't, in my personal opinion, it's not a coste effective process. and for us to um have been so invested in seven years worth of work and we're inching our way closer. But exactly what we
064are asking for and saying what we needed seven years ago is what um likely we're going to be getting. Yet it is 75% of the cost and and the time wasted of various entities and it just feels like nobody really has the authority to make a decision and every time we get close to the finish line like Lucy and Charlie Brown the football's over and no one seems to know who is actually the entity that approves the funding. Um, and it's just constantly we're pingponging around. The legislature set aside money, but the commission has to approve it, but it's contingent upon this. And we just keep ping ponging around. And um in my opinion, as the state looks to recalibrate um education in Wyoming, this is the first spot they should be looking at because
065um this has been our experience and I can't imagine that our experience is vastly different unless you're in Campbell County or Sweetwater County um and you're getting two brand new high schools. Um trusty Oh. Jerry, Madam Chair, um Dr. Haven't Have we done anything more to look at folks locally that can provide uh numbers on growth and population to the consultant that would maybe um at least not the consultant but Dell might be able to look at and say, "Yeah, this guy is not getting it because he is still at least my attendance at that last call was that he is still not taking into consideration any of the population growth and just looking at whatever numbers he's been provided uh which I looked at the company that does that that he cited to u
066and based on what they are reviewing they are looking more at the state of Wyoming and not looking at Teton County so the declining population numbers in Wyoming I mean, I understand that Teton County does not have that same uh trajectory. So, have we considered or have you looked at or had somebody look at I don't even know who that would be, what kind of I'm open to whatever, but to say here's a report. Here's all these things. This is what we can expect. If our numbers are right, 23% of the population has kids, right? So, if we're opening all these new properties, can't we just apply that number and say, "Here's all the new kids that are coming." Um, Madam Chair, Trustee Bosch, you make an excellent point and it's something that throughout this
067seven-year process has been very frustrating because the state waits until you're at 90% capacity to approve a most cost-effective remedy study and you don't get anything until you're at 100%. So anytimes your build by the time you do the study and the build it's two years you're opening a school that is um over capacity or at 100%. And then the the remedy is bringing trailers which are not effective. So what is frustrating about this is we're talking about two separate issues. we qualified for the most cost-effective remedy, not because we're at capacity, but because it's not suitable. And so the the consultant MGT or Rob um Tanner, he wasn't really tasked with looking at capacity. He's only tasked with looking at suitability. And so even though I keep saying or we keep saying, "Look at
068all this housing development," he says, not impressed by it because um our current capacity even with those new builds um we won't get to 100% based on his projections because of birth rates and so I don't know I think it may be an additional exercise in futility to bring in someone else to do that work because he would first have to agree to it but it's actually outside the scope of what he was hired to do and and I wasn't Look, Madam Chair, I'm sorry. And and I think Trusty Scarlet was on it. Forget who else attended, but um the the interpretation I got was not as much as convincing Rob because I heard exactly what you're saying said, but I with looking at the feasibility study, numbers do become part of the equation. And
069what I heard from Dell was if we had something to show him and it's different than what Rob's submitting, he will look at that and he makes the ultimate call. And so if feasibility numbers like on the size of our gymnasium, whatever is supposed to be a certain amount to be I understood that it was not just a capacity issue that it also went to the feasibility of certain items that we had been reviewing. Mhm. Um, for example, the size of a lunchroom, even though that's not capacity, it's feasible whether we can actually serve all those kids at one time. So, I thought that Dell, and I could be wrong, the uh, Trusty Scarlet, please jump in if you heard something different, but those numbers I thought Dell was looking for if we wanted to
070submit them. I thought it sounded like he would take those into consideration. Yeah, it goes back to the suitability of the school. One of the things, Madam Chairman, the square footage, they kept focusing on classroom square footage. I was like, we heard ourselves when we pulled out the lockers and created teachable workspace because that added that. But the one thing about it, if you have a 10x10 room that's 100 square feet, right? If you had a 1 foot by 100 foot long room, that's 100 square feet. And so they don't look at the dimensions of those rooms being suitable for 26 kids. They only look at well your science classroom is the right size. Well, but you can't the way it's all limited. You can't put it up. So again, I'm going to just come
071back and we can have this discussion again or please help educate me on this, but what I heard was Dell saying, "Look, I'm not taking what Rob says is gospel. If you guys object and say that this number is wrong, you show me evidence that will impact those other things like the size of the gymnasium, like the locker rooms and other things like that." That's not that's not a capacity issue. It goes to feasibility. even though suitability sorry suitability so that's to me I open it up to the court but it seems to me that I don't know what it cost no idea but somebody that can at least just put together a simple report that says here's how many applications for houses exist right now at the county here's the number of people that
072expected here's the number of kids that are expected like I I think that that number alone Rob's not considering it at He flat out said like you said, he's like, "Yeah, it doesn't really matter for what I'm doing, but it does." So, I agree. Okay. Sorry. I just had a question. I I missed you said on June 25th they're going to consider the best view or they're going to have another Mercer study on the best. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um and um trustee me um we had a very brief conversation. Um they are on June 25th the commission agenda will be considering our emergency request for the additional the single stall bathroom at summit right and it it um he used um I think how he said was it's a second Mercer they're basically separating
073um the vestibule from the Mercer study and considering it separately for immediate funding which is what I asked for two years ago. Right. It sounded familiar two years ago. And I I even suggested um as late as um October and November, you know, if you if you blessed this and you peeled off the money for us to start our vestibule, I might quiet down. It was like a carrot even, you know, get her to shut up. Um, so I, you know, I feel like we're making progress and I think at that June 25th meeting that might be the question maybe I asked them. What would you accept? We've presented you the number of permits. We've pro presented to you uh the number of home additions. What data and evidence would you accept that is going
074to increase our capacity? The only the only um um willingness of movement on that um in our in our meeting that we had with them to look at their draft Mercer study was um consideration of um taking the auxiliary gym creating the first floor for u customized career and teched spaces because they indicated that we're short 400 square feet on career and teched. So if they take the auxiliary gym and turn it the first floor into customized CTE spaces that would give us 4,500 square feet, then their only consideration was to build um a second floor so that it could be built out quickly um if and the enrollment did grow to what we were predicting. And so when I asked what does that mean quickly? What is quickly? How do you define that? They
075said six six months or so. So, but you know what? Is that gonna require another Mercer? You know, is it going to be a required Mercer for um capacity? Are we have to go through this again? Um which I think likely we would. Will you be still available to go to this June 25th meeting? Yes, I am planning on attending uh and um I think director McCome was a little disappointed Madame Chair Dr. I too like Jerry find fault in the funding formula because I think he's not only looking at um population migration out of Wyoming, but he's looking at national birth rates that are in decline. And I have a feeling, I mean, he's sitting in Nashville, Tennessee. He's looking at national figures. And I think we've challenged him on those figures. We've challenged
076him on his basic concept. I think the idea of saying what will you accept is a good one. Uh Trusty Gry. Thank you, M. Um first of all, Super Chapman, uh you mentioned you had three things you had to accomplish. A I think the sewer discussions are ongoing and they're very positive. Charlotte's been having lots of conversations. I know. So I think it's signed sealed and delivered. I think that's almost a check mark on your list. Um on this one too, I think it's a check mark on your list because a lot of that was us waiting for the Mercer study and that's the thing we couldn't control. It just went on month after month and that was just an incompetent um contractor that the state of Wyoming hired. We finally got it. Um, I
077actually, you know, I I actually attended that. I couldn't hear very well. That was operator error. It wasn't the Zoom problem. Um, uh, and I took it away. A, I thought it was a huge win. The vestibule being separated out. I That's gigantic. Um, I I wish they'd done it sooner, but still a win. And and I I I would only assume that they'll approve that at the end of this month, hopefully. Um, but that I think is a huge win. um also the emergency funding for the single stall. But I also thought their proposal wasn't off um what they were proposing is actually a dual plan. I almost took it as though that was I'm almost to the point of forget the Mercer study, forget proving um you know birth rates and all that
078stuff. They've they're government they found the way to make this work. And what they did instead of they can't prove the capacity and this happens at every school does it not just us that capacity thing is so hard to prove. So they've sort of given us a window by moving over to hey you you you're aren't you aren't meeting meeting suitability. Um and so at least now they can just they've just you know they're government you do the checklist like yep we did the Mercer now we're going to move to the next stage. I almost feel we're at that next stage now we're at negotiating point like how much money you got? um because we we want more, you know, because they they were willing to hand us money to help us because what we
079need is that supplemental money to build the BAC. Um because 16 is clearly not enough to do it. And so they were offering up, you know, 20 in addition to the 16. And so then you you had plenty you have a lot. What you're doing in the school, I don't think we all agree with that's the part I think we can still negotiate. So I think we're sort of at a crossroads. Do we just forget proving any more numbers to them and just start negotiating? How much money are you gonna give us and what are we going to do with that money um internally? Because it sounds like, you know, um well, most of you know Deli, he's he's a negotiator kind of guy. Um he he he likes doing that. Or do we go
080back and try to prove some numbers? If we're going to go back and prove some numbers, I think we would hire someone like an Alex Norton. I mean, he he did all our numbers for us when we did the housing study, and he was excellent at that. His company, I can't remember what the company's called. um um something. Um but anyway, he was really good at proofing up and he he knows the permits more than better than than the county or the city did. Um and so that might be another option is to bring Alex Norton in to give us those numbers if that's where the direction we want to go. Or we make the decision, you know, we're just not going to improve up any more of those numbers. We're just going to start
081negotiating on uh on on the actual deal that we're going to make here. Um cuz I actually thought their proposal, you know, I flipped all the way to the end of the PowerPoint because I wanted to get the end of the story. You know, you know how much money you given me and and I was like, "Oh, that's a respectable amount of money." Okay. Um not as much as I need, but it's respectable. So anyway, I think you had a win. Um, I don't think you control when a a subpar uh contractor hands over a Mercer study that, you know, the original one we got had the wrong school district listed, you know. Um, so I wouldn't worry too much about that one. I I I take that as a check on the checklist. Thank
082you, Madam Chair. Um, do you think though trustee Gingri that uh the provision in the uh in the law that said we have to have a Mercer study to get the 20 million that Senator Daru got for us. Do you think what we have now is sufficient for us to say we did a Mercer Mercer studies here. Give us money. Oh, I think it's sufficient for that. I want more. Yeah. So, that's that's the part I need I think we need a little more. I didn't really like the whole plan about the the CTE and the ex auxiliary gym. I wasn't sure that's what was needed there. The second floor thing confused me. Like, can't you just build out the second floor? Give us the money to finish out the second floor. Um, but no,
083I think I mean, this is just me thinking as a government bureaucrat. We just do check marks like, "Yep, we're sure you're done. All right, here's your 20. I'll try to hand it over." Yeah. So, I think they've done what the Senate what Senator Gar hadn't put in the in the bill. I think that's been accomplished like Candace R20, but I think we can actually argue for more. But again, um I think a huge win here tonight at least because there's a lot more going on here is boy getting that security vestibial money separated out if that if that could get done at the end of this month that would be huge. um why they never So maybe that would be uh money that comes independent of the 20. It will. I hope I I
084took it that it was going to be independent of the 20. I might have been wrong. Correct. No, I'm sure one thing trusty on that was is that my understanding was Dell wants to see the numbers on the vestibule. So they're not agreeing to what we uh had at least projected the cost and everything. and they wanted to see it and look at it. So, I'm not sure where that's going. I agree with you, however, that Dell is negotiating and I took a lot of what he said as the concern I that that's what he was doing. My concern was is he was saying you take your auxiliary gym and basically turn it into something else and then we have something that we can then say, hey, you don't have suitability because you don't have
085an auxiliary gym, so we're going to help you with the Bron Achievement section. That's what I was taking. And the problem with that is is This board better be ready to trust Dell that he's and my understanding he's retiring. That's I thought he made some comment that he was Oh, that was Lance. Oh, Lance. Okay. My fault. But uh we better be on board with him in that idea because I don't know how we exist without a second gym. I mean, I I you know, I just don't know. But it sounded like he wanted to have us do that. And then once that was done within that six-month period, that made it easier for him to turn around and sell the Bronc Achievement Center and giving us the rest of the money on that end.
086Um, I'm okay. I don't know, maybe I'm not. I'm not sure, but we just if that's what he's doing, we better figure that out. And I agree with you. I thought that was a huge not step. I mean, I thought he was like jumping forward saying, "Here's an avenue. Go ahead and take it." But the question is, do we want to or how far do we go with that? And maybe on the 25th, you can have a conversation and just point blank say, is that what you're offering enough? Because if it is, then come back to us and then we I guess we'd have to decide. Madam, yes, just because trusty Bosch reminded me of it. You know, I might be wrong and this is more of a Kurt Dubie question. I thought it's build
087the BAC first because you gota have something to move to, then you remodel the the auxiliary, gym. The only reason I'm not real rushed is because we don't have the 16 million. So, we don't even I mean, that hasn't been started being collected yet from sales tax. Plus, we're in the middle of two very big construction projects. I don't know if we can sustain I think it you'd be pushing our limits to be doing a third construction project. So, I think we have some time, I guess, is what I'm saying is that I wasn't rushing because A, we won't have that 16 million, which we're going to have to need, and B, I don't think we could be doing three construction projects all at the same time. 100% agreement, but I don't Sorry, Madam Chair,
088but I'm not sure that's what Dell was suggesting. Sure, that's what I'm saying. like Dell was I think putting the in our view putting the cart way ahead of the horse but that's what it sounded like he was trying to use as a negotiation as you said with us one question I guess for the whole board is should we look at someone like Alex Martin do we want to provide some more detail or or not or I'm I'm I'm not for the expense at this Well, and I'm wondering if Gillian is able to ask what is it that he does want then or you know then we could discuss that and figure out how we that's delic. Thank you sir. All right. Uh, anything else in that? Any other other reports? Thanks for being here.
089Yeah, I know you said that and I was like, you not Anyway, I I answered the question. Um, let's see. So, it is 7:20. Are we ready for a break or we want to go a little longer? I uh be back at well my clock says 7:23 armor to make sure that they're working properly and that they have pass quarterly proficiency tests on the shooting range. These are all based not on something that I came up with, but based upon input from uh law enforcement uh as to what would be something that would make sure that we are ensuring that anybody that wants to do this would have at least the training. I'm not even going to say that it's proficient because I don't believe it, but that's the that's the bare Madam Chairman, Trusty
090SC, this came in at two this afternoon. We've got to pass this. I'm not ready to vote on all of that on a this quick. What I would recommend is we do have a further we approved it as presented today and then recrack this open in July or August and and see what we can add. But I you know I'm not ready to vote on this language. But I know we need to pass this by July 1st. Well, I would I think we can we can table it and come back and vote before July 1st. I do because I I think it's really important um well the liability aspects of our it are really important to me as well as requiring people to have a lot of training. Um so you know I think we
091could table this item um and come back to it if that's what we need to do. Um I'm not willing to vote on this. This is just uh with all due resp it is um just uh uh not stringent enough for our um and trustees um if the board decides not to vote on this the law goes into effect July one. So any employee can um conceal carry without any supervision. The second thing is um we miss a window of opportunity to claim costs related to passing the policy. Well, we can pass the policy before July 1. Well, we have to submit by uh June 25th, I believe, is the cut off date. Well, we can pass the policy 142. It seems to me, could Trusty Bosch tell us what his amendment is? I I
092I don't understand what it is. So, and what I mean by I I don't need the explanation again. Sure. Sorry. If you could tell us exactly where in there and tell us what words you're inserting. Sure. Under training. And I did send this out. I apologize it was late. I was waiting for information that I've been asking for for over two weeks. I just got it from Sheriff Carr on Monday. There were some additional questions, so that's why it was late getting um under training, which is B at the very end. Um it says employees and volunteer shall complete. So you're saying B want now? Yeah. B I'll read it out loud. Read it how you want it. Okay. So, under training, the new thing will say, uh, I'm just trying to see up there.
093I can't see that far, to be honest. Shall complete. Okay. So, where it says complete firearms training, it shall it should read as filed. Shall complete all of the following. And then Romanette one is a school district physical assessment that shall include vision and hearing testing. Romanet two, the school district approved psychological screening. Number three, a school district approved background investigation. Number four, no less than two hours of firearms maintenance training. Uh number five, no less than four hours of firearms safety training. Number six, no less than 24 hours of firearms training at the shooting range, a shooting range, excuse me. No less than 25 hours annually of weapons and use of force training. No less than eight hours annually of scenariobased training. Um pass a test uh on the law relative to active shooting
094and use of deadly force and pass a firearms proficiency test at the shooting range no less than quarterly and have their firearm inspected by annually by a certified armor. That replaces one and two completely. Number C is deleted and it just says all requirements set forth herein shall be completed by and with an instructor PN S Npn approved by the school district at the expense of the individual. Then use of firearms that section is deleted completely. Do you want me to read what I was reading earlier back Keith the amendment? That would be great. Just so it's on the record exactly what you're wanting. Thank you. Any employer or volunteer carries a concealed firearm does so at their own risk and assumes all liability and risk associated with their independent decision to carry a concealed
095firearm. Any employee or volunteer that carries a concealed firearm is deemed acting outside the scope of their obligations, duties, and/or employment. Semicolon except as those contracted school resource officers provided for in the contract between the school district and the Teton County Sheriff's Department PN or other similar agency hired to provide trained school resource officers and PN period. Any employee and volunteer is hereby notified that carrying a concealed weapon might result in serious bodily injury to them or death. By making the independent decision to carry a concealed weapon at school district grounds, the employee and volunteer automatically waves any and all claims or causes of action against the school district for any harm or loss that results from their decision to carry a firearm. Any employee and volunteer carrying a concealed weapon also agrees to indemnify
096the school district for any claim of or cause of action filed against the school district as a result of their actions or any firearm they bring onto school property. Period. Any employer or volunteer intending to conceal carry must sign a waiver of liability and indemnification form prior to carrying a concealed weapon. Failure to abide by this section's requirements will result will result in immediate suspension and/or termination. I did not make any other changes to the remaining portions of Oh, excuse me. At the very end under compliance, um, if you can go down where it says any employee, um, it says any failure to properly maintain their weapon at all times may, I said, shall result in immediate termination of employment. Trusty Gry Trusty Bosch um you said when you were reciting that you said and
097you took out C was the one that you had to keep the firearm in a biometric container or lock box. Was that really coming out or or was that that might have been just a um I apologize Trusty Gimry that is just formatting on my end. Um the one that I correct that state I apologize send I did it I thought you did but if I didn't I'll do it right now. Thank you. So I have it. Yep. And Sarah would like to send it to Hershey. Um, you know, as I'm listening to this, you know, I think I hadn't really thought about the liability piece and I think that's definitely a strong addition to that um to the policy. Trusty Gry I'm just wondering to be respectful to Trusty Scarlet and and also try
098to go where Crusty Meat's trying to go. I'm wondering because I guess I have a third concern. My concern is more um Sarah McN just reviewing it. I just want her to check it off. So, I'm wondering, is this one that we could continue to later next week, I guess, to beat this? I guess there was a June 25th deadline. Um, is there a way we could have a special meeting? Um, or does anyone else think Sarah needs to review this? She's not here tonight, so I wasn't sure if she had she's read. Oh, okay. I did not. I did not. However, she's traveling. Okay. And so she was uh I had talked to her earlier this afternoon. She was going to review it when she got to where she was going. Um but I
099her and I did talk about the issues. One of the other issues that she wanted to look into that's not in here was that um I had thought that it would be uh also important to say that anybody that wants to conceal carry must maintain their own liability insurance for concealed carry which is I didn't know that was such a thing but it is. So she was going to look into that. So she has seen them. Her and I talked about it. We talked about the issues. Um, she did not review the language. I know just reading it to you, there's some things I would clean up, but I think it's pretty clear what I was trying to get across. Sorry. Trusty Dorn, do you have any thoughts? Madame Chair, I too have deep objections
100to the premise behind all of these um pieces that support the concealed carry law. Um, I'm a Quaker, otherwise known as American Society of Friends, and we don't believe in fighting back. And so the premise that firearms are going to be on school grounds in order to fight back is a problem for me because we believe that we as Quakers, we do everything we can to remove ourselves from a situation that would require us to fight. So, I'm going to have to stand aside and not vote at all unless my vote only means that I have read the bill. I think that's what the legisl legislature wants from us to say we've read the bill because we don't have a choice of saying we don't want it. We don't have any choice except to say
101we've read it or we've not read it. And I don't want to be an obstacle for the board in any way. So I may just have to stand aside. Do what is the appetite of the board? Do we want to Oh, yep. Um, let's call for public comment. Come on up. State your name. You have three minutes. Madam Chair, trustees, Superintendent Chapman, Kurt Duby, uh, local here for 30 plus years. uh and a proud gun owner. However, I have a I have a concern about the first statement that that you said uh Superintendent Chapen, and that's the word protect. As an architect here with local practice here, I this may be overstating the obvious, but if a concealed carry any sort of uh policy is enacted within the school district, it is my opinion, having
102been a former uh uh school commission uh member, that this in no way should impact the school boards and the district's uh decision. decision to implement the security vestibule.