001this meeting uh regular meeting of the Teton County School Board back to regular session. Uh let's say the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic which stands one nation under God indivisible. Next uh we have mission vision and value statement. I will read the um mission. Our mission is to ensure that all students have the foundation for success and are challenged to reach their full potential. Uh next we have approval of the agenda. Madam Chairman, yes. I would move to approve the agenda with one change. If we can move the student school board report to the very first item after we make this vote. Um and then the rest of the agenda as um laid out. Uh second. Um anything else? All in favor? I opposed.
002We'll move on. So we'll move to um student school board. But before you give your report, um we just want to say thank you. You all have done an outstanding job and we um it's been really great to have you come in each month and report your progress and you had a great timeline and you had two really impressive projects. So, thank you very much. Um let's see, Colin, and then you can take this back and then give us your report. Thank you so much. And uh Sie, thank you so much. Thank you so much. And good luck next year. Good luck next year. And thank you. Thank you very much. There you go. So, for this final meeting of ours, we just wanted to give you a quick update. Obviously, we've completed all of
003our work from throughout the year, all of our projects, but last month we had our student senate meeting after our April meeting and we got to run through our curriculum and we didn't get to go through the entire thing, but we focused on a few key slides, communication, responsibility, responsibility, cyber bullying, and online safety. And then we had all the kids um say the pledge and the kids had a lot of fun. It was really amazing to see like all the work we've put into this curriculum um like be like seen and how students have taken it and how they've collaborated and all the fun they had and then also like them being able to handle the harder topics and um just it was really amazing. So um we definitely were surprised by how mature,
004introspective and intelligent all the kids were. I mean, we gave them this curriculum with heavy topics, couple of games, some breaks, but they were able to take it like champs. It was amazing to watch them. Um, and by the pledge was that that pledge we showed you guys before. Um, where the teacher or us in this standpoint were we we said a couple words and they repeat it back and they promise um or they pledge to have good online safety. They won't be cyber bullying. They'll be taking care of each other online. um they were so easy to work with and open-minded. Um it was just such a blast. That last student senate meeting was so fun. It was a great way to wrap up the year and we're really excited to see how this
005curriculum can do well down the road and with all the other schools. Um and then on May 9th, I got to go down to Riverton with Dr. Crisp and Chef Molly. And I feel very bad, but I am blinking on his name right now. Okay, Chris. Um, uh, we got to have a great dinner at a local Mexican restaurant. It was very good. And then, um, I want you to know that you got your money's worth on the hotel cuz I got to go swimming. And, um, and then we got to present on the graduate profile and how student school board members like ourselves are representation of creating their own path. And then um with a presentation of our curriculum and then our other many projects that we had throughout the year uh I think
006we made an impact on the people who were there and then we also got to talk about how we work with administrators and we created little flyers and much much more working with the student senate. Um and then we talked to the governor for about 30 minutes with the rest of the students there and some of the other students asked him some questions. Um the people who were asking questions like to ask a lot of questions so I it was it was so fun. Um, and then we went to breakout groups and we got to learn about project- based learning, which is essentially, from what I can remember, when kids take what they're learning and take it to the community. Um, I believe one girl took her math class and had to make a project
007in her math class about what was going on with um, farms and horses and bring it back to the classroom. So that was really and then I think finally we just would like to say thank you to you all for this opportunity and for having us throughout the year and it was something really special. Um I wouldn't have gotten to meet these two amazing people without it. So thank you. Thank you guys very much for allowing us to do this. This has been an incredible opportunity and I'm very grateful for it. Thank you all. I'm really grateful that I was able to do this and do it with my dad. Yeah. Well, you've done amazing work. So, thank you very much. It's really amazing. Yes. Uh trusty me. One thing uh really impressed me was
008your flyers and how um attractive they were. you know, would grab a younger kid um and short and said everything in a very short uh and easy way. I thought that was just brilliant um and shows how mature you guys are that you know that you have to like marketing experts need to get somebody to to jump into listen to what you put out there and do it in a short period of time. It's brilliant. Really good job. All right. Thank you. And Colin, have a safe drive to Casper. Thank you. All that coffee. You got to win first place. We're very proud of you guys. You did an awesome job. Thank you. Superintendent report. Thank you um trustees. It's hard to follow these amazing students and they've really done a tremendous job. So um
009the first celebration um is um I'm going to ask Dr. Chris to kick off the teacher and staff of the year celebration. Uh Madam Chair, trustees, this is a great time of year to celebrate some fantastic people. Um I'm going to describe the process very quickly and then really have our um principal lierman please come up and Tracy please come up. Um Danny I don't know if Danny come up as well. This year we um honored uh 10 finalists for staff of the year and teacher of the year. Five staff five um teachers. Um, we narrowed the field through an application process, recommendation process, and we have two phenomenal winners to represent our district. I will say the teacher of the year will now apply for the state level award. We are rooting for her.
010Our district deserves to have a state winner. So, I'm doing everything I can to support our teacher. So, Principal Lieberman, please come up. Tracy and Danny. You will also see a gift given to the two award winners. Um, it is a $500 cash award per person and also a $500 award that they can give to the cause that they feel like they believe in the most in our district. Trustees, madam chair, um it is my pleasure to present to you this evening the TCSD teacher of the year, Michelle Roundy. In the short time that I've gotten to know Michelle, I've been incredibly impressed with her focus, dedication, commitment to the teaching profession, and commitment to the district. Of course, skill, technique, and dedication are important when recognizing teaching excellence, but in my opinion, teachers who
011earn this distinction must also demonstrate a love of teaching their students. So, trustees, these words that I'm about to speak that come from Michelle demonstrate that critical component of instructional excellence. and I quote, "There is something magically compelling about being in a room with 25 students as they learn, holding space for them as they navigate failure and championing them as they achieve success. It's like being part of an orchestra. And although I am responsible for guiding them as they learn, it is their individual and collective engagement that ultimately creates this relational harmony, one in which all time stops. And the only thing that matters is the relationships in the room. That is who I am and that is why I teach. So Michelle, TCSD and our students are incredibly lucky that this is who you
012are and why you teach. And I could not be more thrilled to introduce you this evening as TCSD's 2025 teacher of the year. Everyone here in this room wishes you all the best as you take the next step and represent our district in the Wyoming teacher of the year selection process. Congratulations Thank you, Madam Chair and board of trustees. It's our honor tonight to be able to present Brianna K as the staff of the year. And uh for the sake of kind of being clear and concise, I wanted to speak to and share three character qualities I think true and representative of three. Um her positivity and attitude and performance. Um her positivity can be seen in her interactions with students and her and relationships with colleagues. Uh she's always light-hearted and easygoing in her
013approach. Um her willingness and cooperative work ethic is kind of a second thing I'd noted. without hesitation. She's uh always taken on the task of preparing and doing extra. This year, for example, preparing meals for delivery to Kelly and Moran. She did that without hesitation, and it's been an incredible thing to kind of see played out for this year. Uh she always volunteers herself to cook and serve meals for after hours events held at GS for welcoming families and incoming students. Her willingness to cooperate with faculty and teammates is very evident as I know she and Debbie who since retired uh really looked out for one another and now her time with Sierra Fulton is that of a unified strong bond between the two for the sake of JS in feeding the children. Uh above
014all and third quality that I had noted uh that I wanted to celebrate on her behalf tonight in recognizing this uh Bri she cares deeply for our students and their well-being. uh when asked about her role in food services, she thinks she could have said many things related to her character qualities and kind of put the shiner light on herself. Uh but instead in response to the question from the local news media on her role, uh she said, "Food is fuel for our brains and I help fuel these kids so that they can have a successful day in the classroom. I also bring a fun environment to the breakfast and lunch breaks so that when it's time to go back to learning, they can focus." I think this statement truly shows humility and a focus
015on what's most important to us in food service, which is that of providing food while creating a positive environment and a moment in the day for our students. Uh, with that, I wanted to say on behalf of William and I and the school district, just a huge congratulations on being recognized for today. If if I may, I just wanted to say a couple things about Bri. Um, I had the pleasure of working with Bri every day at Jackson Elementary School, and we sure hit the jackpot when she came to JEES. And not only does she serve up a meal, breakfast, and lunch every day for our kids. What I love so much about Bri is she's really integrated as part of the school and that can be hard to do in food service. You work
016part-time. You're spending most of your time in the kitchen and um Bri is just really integrated with the staff and the students. Um I feel like I can take a problem or an idea to Bri and she jumps on and is ready to brainstorm. Um the sustainability coordinator from the county called about a composting program is like sounds great. Let's do it. And then I'm like before I knew it like we had a full-fledged composting going in the kitchen which has saved a ton of waste and teaching the kids how to compost um has been a huge success. We have a fresh fruit and vegetable program and um Bri loved the idea of taking some of our students in special education and now they have a meaningful job in our school where they deliver fruit
017every day under Bree's guidance which is pretty awesome. um as well as really champion nutritious eating with the kids with a smile on her face. Kids love her. Um so, thank you. We're so lucky to have you as part of J. All right. uh is sealed by literacy. Okay, Carlin board. Thanks for the time. Uh my name is Dan Abraham, a principal at Monger Mountain Elementary School and supporting our K12 new immersion program. I'm excited for any chance I get to speak about our awesome uh program in front of the board. Uh the dual language immersion program began uh back in 2009 2010 with a first grade class. Uh Dr. Chris's daughter was in that class. I checked on that today. And then uh 15 years later, here we are with a full complement of
018K through2 programming. Um bilingual and biiterate uh graduates um and an extremely effective uh K5 EL program at Munger and really strong interest and demand from our community uh based on this year's lottery and our incoming kindergarten class. So, I'm excited today to talk a little bit about um there's so many parts to a dual language immersion program and we'll focus today on the biiteracy pathway award and seal of biiteracy. Um the pathway is a through line from kindergarten through 12th grade for all of our students. So, just despite what building you're at, it connects Munger to the middle school to both the high schools. Um, and it provides goals at the end of each building for students to shoot and aim for and uh transition as they move from fifth to sixth, from eighth
019to 9th and then from 12th grade out into life. Um, it is a gradual shift from a participation uh based award at the Munger uh level all the way through to very rigorous national and international criteria in 12th grade as they go for the seal of biiteracy. Um, this is not a new thing to TCSD. Um, Wyoming's seal of biiteracy is based on the national standard set by the seal of biiteracy organization and it was adopted in 2022 um by the Wyoming Department of Education when it was signed off by Governor Gordon. Um, we start at Monger Mountain. Go to the next one. Maybe there. Yeah. So, um, the pathway begins for most students at Munger Mountain Elementary School. Um, it's the start of our K12 dual immersion program. Um, it's a two-way English and
020Spanish program where all content areas are taught in both languages throughout the school year. Um, we really focus on developing a student's second language, whether that's English or Spanish, while maintaining and increasing their literacy in both. Oh, your quorum's not met. That's all right. Um, the a part of Munger as well is an extremely effective um EL program. So, an English language development program for um the largest concentration of multilingual learners in Teton County School District. Um we're proud of our English language learner program. We had we'll be exceeding expectations again this year and we've hit our highest mark for exiting students from that criteria with over 26 students meeting the criteria to move into full language proficiency. Um, our fifth grade class this year is 71 students, 63% Hispanic and uh, 27% of those
021students, so 19 students in that group of fifth graders started their education somewhere outside of the United States of America, whether that was in Mexico, Venezuela, Guatemala, they started somewhere else. Um the graduating class uh coming out of Munger into the middle school is a is 42% um active e but actually after this year's test results came back that's going to drop by over 10% to be less than a third of the students moving on which is pretty awesome. The pathway award at the fifth grade focuses on bringing everyone together. Um students who arrive to Munger in third, fourth or fifth grade, their level of English may not be at that uh proficiency we want to see when they're eventually in the country for a long time. We want to make sure they're recognized and
022encouraged to continue in that bilingual and biiterate journey. Um, our fifth graders uh participate in service projects. They develop biiteracy essays and they develop a storyboard project to really tell their story from kindergarten through fifth grade or whenever they arrived about what um it means to them. And we do actually as well start benchmark testing our students with a nationally norm test called the stamp test to begin collecting data from a third party outside of our own school to see how that's going. Um the goal at um the fifth grade level is to get students used to that testing uh to develop their confidence in that program and then send them off to middle school where things get a little more rigorous. All the students are recognized at graduation and it's a real um big
023thank you my fifth grade teachers Erin Vcanti, Kelly Frostic, Addie Coburn and Naveen Mhabier. They organize all of this work and see this through in the last six weeks of school for those fifth graders and that is a big lift for them for sure. the uh students move on to middle school and this is the first time we see choice really involved for students in the classes that they take. Um I'm really proud to say that um as students move into middle school, the overwhelming majority of students stay in that dual immersion program. Um nearly onethird of the students at Jacksonville Middle School are involved in the dual immersion program in one way or another. That's one class or two classes throughout their day. Um the um program shifts from a full school model to
024a strand model where students have multiple classes per day, typically Spanish language arts in a social studies class taught in an immersion Spanish environment. I see one of our immersion Spanish uh social studies teachers here today. Thank you. And we complete stamp testing which is that uh Spanish language test in all three grades. We do a comprehensive test of their four domains of language. So you hear a lot in dual immersion about reading, writing, speaking and listening. those four domains of a language and they test those in all three grades. Um the eighth grade class, 225 students, there's 91 active dual students in that eighth grade class. About onethird of those students are Hispanic. Um and 21 of those students, about 10% of that class started education outside the US. Um and it's about 15%
025active EL status. We see that big drop from in the 40s or 30s in fifth grade down to 15% in eighth grade. And that's the the good work of all of the ELD teachers and and classroom teachers in developing a student's language. It's typically five to seven years before we see proficiency in a second language. So we expect those numbers to drop off and get smaller and smaller as they move forward. Um the eighth grade pathway award. Yeah. May I have a question? Um uh thank you for this by the way. Um in the middle school stamp testing uh will we see the results of the stamp testing? Yeah, we'll wrap up all stamp testing for K through 12 by June and then I'm hoping if you would allow me to I'd love to present
026on that in August when we return. We'll have a whole Is this the first year of stamp testing or have we had about three years? Uh we've used a different program in the past. Um another acronym lost links was the name of it. This is our first year using stamp K through eight but we have been using at the high school level for the seal of literacy testing for the last three years two three years. Great. Yeah. because I'd love to present that data. Yeah, thank you. Um, at the middle school level, um, students must meet proficiency benchmarks to qualify for the eighth grade pathway award. Um, students can do that through testing with YTOP in in the English side and stamp testing on the Spanish side. and students who may not quite meet that
027proficiency benchmark in an individual domain. Um, the middle school has developed a pathway for those students to really work on their skills with a DLI teacher and prove that proficiency through another method. We are not all great standardized test takers and speaking into a microphone in a second language with your peers around you can be pretty scary for kids and adults. So, we may not all meet those benchmarks, but there's opportunities for them. Um, that's been growing each year at the middle school level. Um, Briano Lavaris is a dual emer teacher at the middle school provided me a lot of data. She's collected and did her um TCSD leadership project on how to make that a bigger and more open uh pathway to the students and there's over 70 students who will be eligible if
028they complete all of their service requirements um in the eighth grade year to to receive that award. Uh the end of the road is the high school uh Jacksonville High School and Summit Innovation School. Um we have students in both schools who will qualify for the seal of literacy this year which is really exciting. Um, we continue the strand model with individual classes and there's a combination of language classes, social studies classes, advanced placement and elective courses taught at the high school level. The combined graduating class for 12th grade is 225 students across both schools. Um, it it is nearly 40% Hispanic. Um, there are 17 students in the that graduating class that will have started their education outside the US and about 10% 11% are active English language learners. Uh the seal of biiteracy
029for 12th graders um was signed into uh law by Governor Gordon back in March of 2022. Um a great piece of legislation that was passed. I'm sure we'll hear about some other pieces of legislation tonight, but this is one I'm excited about. Um it is aligned to the national and global seal of bi literacy criteria. So this is not like made up in Wyoming. It's it's a big national standard to meet. There's two levels awarded. Um there's a seal and then a seal with advanced distinction. and it's based on testing results. Um, uh, the award actually is a seal. It's a fix to the student's diploma. Becomes part of their transcript and I guess like that classic like it's part of your permanent record. Like it becomes part of their permanent high school record. Um,
030students do not have to be a part of the dual language immersion program to qualify for the seal of biiteracy. This year we have students who qualified for the seal in French. They started French in 8th or nth grade and will qualify because it became a passion of theirs. They dedicated themselves to it and they worked hard at it. It's really hard. Um I'm really happy to announce uh 23% of the graduating senior class will qualify for the seal of biiteracy. This is an amazing amount. Um I have not gotten a like total yes from our um state contact, but it's got to be one of the highest across the state of Wyoming and it's a real point of pride. Um one of our uh where's trusty Doran at one point asked like what do
031we celebrate? Like this is something Oh. had asked about like what are we celebrating for our students and what should we be proud of and like this is something we should be proud of our students should be proud of. We are sending off um 52 students who have met the national international benchmarks for bilingualism and biiteracy. Um the next two slides the first one shows you those are the 30 students that qualified for the seal of biiteracy um in Spanish and French. Uh that's that first level of seal of bi literacy. I wanted to bring them all here tonight, but um they're seniors and they're not going to come here publicly. It's fine. Pretty crowded. Um and then the next slide are the 22 students who qualified for the um uh seal of literacy with
032advanced distinction. So that it's a higher threshold and a higher benchmark to to meet that. Not every one of those students began their um journey towards biiteracy in the dual language immersion program. Not every one of those students started in the country their education. So, it's a pretty mixed group of students and it's really amazing to see. Uh, the very last slide, I'll keep talking fast here. Um, just for some context and criteria to understand. Um, we love graphics like acronyms and graphics in education. But the one on the right there, um, that's the ACTFold, the American uh, Council of Teachers of Foreign Languages scale of languages. And we use this system that has three levels for novice, intermediate, advanced, and then superior. And you notice it gets bigger and bigger and bigger as it
033goes up. And that's because those jumps are not linear. It's sort of like a um geometric growth of what your language skill looks like as you go from level to level. The testing we use is aligned to that scale. Um and we assign a number to each of those levels one through nine. um our students um you know as an example like down here in the kind of novice low to mid-range this is like I spent a couple hours over the summer on Dualingo and found some phrases I know when we move into the intermediate mid-range at number five that's where a lot of our students in fifth grade are testing a typical person um working in that range might be like I did six years of high school Spanish and finished AP Spanish but
034these are 11 year olds that are reaching that that threshold or that benchmark mark. Um, our middle school students make that jump up to levels six and seven. Seven is what I look for for a second language speaker of Spanish to be employed as a teacher in our school. And that's our kind of seventh and eighth graders are hitting that benchmark. And then our um our some of our high schoolers are pushing up into that um advanced mid um number even number nine for specific domains in their language skill, which is pretty amazing. For a reference point, I took this test in English and like I score in the eights in my ability to read, write, speak, and listen. I I think of myself as like a fairly educated English speaker, reader, writer, and listener.
035Um, but gives you an idea of like what that level of uh biiteracy looks like. So, that is the uh pathway we're going to seal by literacy. That was as fast as I could do it. Um, hopefully faster than Dr. Chris would have done. I only got the last minute I can do that I think. Did anybody have any other questions? I have one question. Um Dan, for the percentage of high school students, it was what 22 23 23%. Yeah, 23%. How does that compare to the rest of the state that's issuing these certificates? And how does that look nationally? Yeah, I am still digging on that. Okay, Antonet Hallum works at WDE and and she was excited to sent this presentation to her as well and I asked her to kind of cross reference
036for some of our bigger districts that have really strong um foreign language and second language programs like what does it look like at schools in Casper or Cheyenne and she's going to get back to me but she was when I sent her this she was like called me on the phone to be like I'm sending the seals this is amazing she's very excited about it. Yeah. Thank yep. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. All right, on to the district leaders report if anybody has any questions. Um, Madam Chairman, I've got Dr. Chris. I have one question. Actually, it's more of a statement. With the uh changes that have gone on in your world in the last week, um, I'm worried about this dashboard and the amount of time and uh energy that's going
037to take to get this up and running. I just wonder if we should if you would consider putting it on a little bit of a hiatus while we start migrating into our new um relationship. Sure. Absolutely. Trustees, I think I have some um hear you loud clear. I think there's some priorities that maybe are above that right now. Um there is a great example that trustee me brought me tonight on an alternative that we could maybe do that would require less intensive work on that proposal but still get some word out on what our district is doing to tell our story. So that would be great. I think thanks for bringing that forward. Uh trusty me. Um madame chair is Jenna here? Jenna back there you are Jenna. How are you? Thank you for coming
038all the way over here. Absolutely. How are you? So, I noticed in your um in your report that you're down to four kinders so far. Yes. For next year and that your enrollment may fall. How much do you think it will fall? Right now, we're looking at 30 students. I just got some concerning news this afternoon that another family might be looking to move to Driggs as well. So that would bring us to 28 students next year. Thank you. Sure. Thank you. Any other questions? I did another trusty. This one uh madame chair is for Tracy at JES. Um she's still here. Sorry to make you walk up there. It's just a pretty simple question. I noticed that you had 15 students exited um EL services. Yes. Out of how many? I think 67. Wow.
039That's a good percentage. Yeah. Yeah. Over 20%, which is really exciting. Thank you. Anybody else? I just had one for Heather Sh. Maybe I forgot the numbers, but I think they're up there. It looked like there was You add the two together, it got to a pretty high number. It was 17 plus 24 of resignations. Is that a normal amount for us or is that a high amount? And I was just curious. It's actually less than previous years. Um the total so far when we count all the resignations that have occurred throughout this school year in addition to the February 1 deadline to give a notice is a total of 49. So if I look at that to date we're sitting at about a 9.4% turnover rate which the previous years have been anywhere from
04012 to 13%. So we are s trending a little bit lower. Um we still have until fall. Sometimes these numbers can change daily. So, I'll I'll continue to update you as I have updates. I certainly understand the classified. It was the certified seemed to be a high number. That was what I I think was where I zeroed in on the concern. Is that a high number? The number of certified labor. It it's is it high? Yes. However, it compared to past years, we're pretty much right on trend. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Trusty Scarlet. Um, how's the open enrollment for insurance going and we have two days left. We are at 81% as of this morning. So, we have 19% that haven't responded. Correct. And we did do some outreach today to those who are in
041progress or not completed. So, we'll continue to do that tomorrow and Friday morning as well. Yep. We've outreached with some personal phone calls, too. Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Anyone else? All right. Uh, anything else? Uh, Superintendent Chapman? No, thank you. All right. We will go on to reports and items for discussion. We've done the student school board reports. We'll move to fiscal management. Madam Chairman, yes, your u comment a couple weeks ago. seems like a long time ago and um just kind of I'll turn it over to Kristen since I know quite recall everything they discussed. Uh it there's been a lot happening. Um I think the the first thing is to um just review the budget update. You don't have to Well, I guess we can bring it up. Uh we're
042coming in uh really good on our salaries and benefits. Uh, I do think that we'll realize uh a little bit of um not necessarily cost savings, but a reduction of what the budget is going to be. You can see we're pacing about 5% behind in benefits where we were last year. Um, and I think that's mostly due to the contracting of food service and then we lost um we didn't lose them, but the employees that were originally enrolled in our um insurance through the food service department obviously aren't enrolled this year. So that's where that uh attrition, it's not really attrition, but that's where that deficit's coming from. Uh, and then everything else seems to be falling in line. the special education. Those are those um students that are placed outside of the district and
043those costs are a little bit unpredictable. We have um increased the budget for next year. We will have a couple of students that will continue to be placed outside of the district next year. Everything else operationally looks to be coming in just fine for this year. Um moving on to if there's no questions on this year's budget, we'll move on to next year's budget. There's not a whole lot to talk about in the proposed budget just yet. We we're still waiting on a lot of information for our consolidated grant those numbers. We just got the title one awards today. Last year our title one funding was 167,000. because we finally crossed over in our um census data to a higher amount of of families that are living in poverty or in need. We actually will
044receive about 463,000 in Title One funding next year. It's a pretty significant increase and we'll be able to put that 100% towards supporting those families in need. Um Mard, what's up? Can you repeat that, please? um 167,000 in title one funding last year and for a couple of years before that. Next year it will be up around 463 or 468. That's significant. Uh so we'll see most of that money. Uh right now Munger Mountain Elementary is the our title school as it's qualified because that's where a lot of the population uh goes to school that qualifies for the title funding. Madam Chair, Christy SC. So, how how did this jump happen? It's the um it's based on the census um and the state collects certain census data. It's actually the federal government collects certain census
045data and we've been hovering right under the percentage um of families in need in our district for the last I think four or five years and that percentage finally tipped over. So we have more families that are qualifying for benefits through the census. And then once we bring that money, so you get the award for the whole district, the title one award for the whole district. And then based on the populations and the free and reduced numbers in each school, that's how the money is distributed. But because Munger has the majority of um those populations of those numbers, that's where the money will be spent. but it's a it's a supplement, not a supplant grant. So that means we staff all of our schools equitably across the district and then we add those funds on
046top for extra supports. Trustee Kristen, you said based on the census, this is the federal census, US or a different census. Please clarify. It's actually quite hard to get a lot of detailed information about this. I've asked so many times over my eight and a half years here and I I always think that it's interesting that they update the census numbers for this allocation on an annual basis, but yet the census isn't done every year. So trying to dig in and figure out where they're getting the data and what data they're actually basing it on, it's quite difficult. I've never gotten a straight answer. P might be able to expand on this a little bit. Um, but it is it is hard to like nail down. You know, in the past I'm like, okay, what
047do we need to do or what do we need to do with our families? Reach out and say, you need to be completing this form or you need to be completing this form. Um, so that we can actually have an accurate presentation of what our population is. Um, but it is hard to figure out how to do that. Um, and how to encourage people to submit the right information. Thank you. If we go to page I'm just quickly going to go over fund 10 revenues and expenditures and where we are today. Um Andrea, it's on page uh 24, 25, and 26. You can start with 24. Uh the fund 10 the general fund budget. This is our foundation guarantee. This is what we're talking about when we start talking about reccalibration. This is the pot
048of money that we're focused on. And you can see that the special district tax, that's the 25 mills of tax. And then down on the next page um is the six mills. Those are implemented by the state um to our community and those taxes come directly to the school district. There's another 12 mills that the Wyoming government uh implements that our our local taxpayers pay. That money goes directly to the state. So when we start talking about recapture and entitlement, which we're a recapture district, that recapture is being paid out of the six mills and the 25 mills, but there is an additional 12 mills that our property tax um community members are paying in Teton County that's going directly to the state. Um, go ahead. So, just so the 103 million is what we
049hold on to that's being recaptured, right? So, the recapture number is down a little bit down a little bit under state sources. Next year, it looks like our recapture, this is what the numbers are looking at right now. They do change quite a bit over the next couple of months, um, is about 69 million. That's down 10 and a half million from last year because of the property tax legislation. So, I've been asked a couple of times, does the property tax legislation impact school district funding? For us, it really doesn't because the foundation guarantee hasn't changed. It does decrease our recapture amount. So you can see our total uh revenues at the moment are sitting about 70,000 70 million26,000. Andre go to the next page. Expenditures. Uh and this is where we start to work
050through salaries and benefits are sitting right about 60,500,000. That number is really solid right now with the approval of the insurance. um assuming the approval of the compensation package that's on tonight's agenda. Uh that's a pretty good number. And then we're still working through some of those operational pieces, working with some of the department heads on what changes they need to see how the ADM is going to move around and and those individual site budgets. We still haven't gotten our liability insurance renewal. Uh I expect that number to go up significantly maybe with some of the uh legislative changes, but we'll know that more in probably by the next meeting. Uh and then there is an opportunity to recapture some of those dollars with a grant if we can get the numbers and file before
051June 30th to get some of those money some of that money back for additional liability insurance uh due to policy changes. And then if you'll go over to the bottom of that please. So currently our total expenditures are sitting about 70,900,000. There is a bit of a divide there between the two. I'm still working on how to remediate that. Um but we'll get there. The $900,000 deficit. Yes. Plus minus. Plus or minus. I have budgeted uh a little bit less for um interest earnings over the next year. I'm just trying to be conservative. I think we'll make up the difference there or at least part of it. Uh and then there's a couple of other places that I still am working through on the revenue side. Trusty SC. So playing forward, if they jump into
052reserves, what is our the percent of the our reserves of the total budget? Are we at 10%. In cash reserves? No, it's far less than that. Our reserves ending last year were about 3 million. I I believe with our savings this year in insurance and a couple of other areas, we'll end up putting another 500,000 potentially into reserves this year. Uh and then this may we may have to counterbalance that a little bit with what we take out. What I'm trying to do is just not decrease the reserves from year to year, continue to build that even if it's only $10,000. Um but really try and work it so that we can start to build that back challenging chair. Trusty. Um Madame Chair, uh Kristen, it strikes me that uh on the chart that says
053general fund cash reserves. Um I remember back in 21 when we had um close to 10 million in cash reserves and last year we were down to 24 we were down to wait this writing is so small I don't have my glasses 2,300,000 uh give or take. Is that less than Gazsby 84 requires? Uh, Gazby 84 for cash reserves. Well, doesn't it require us to have at least two months? Not that I know of. I can definitely look into that, but I don't think so. Let's see. It's here somewhere. 54, sorry. Uh, budgeted two months of it budgeted expenditures. Is that enough to cover two months of budgeted expenditure? Our current cash reserves. Yeah. No. Um I believe we established a policy uh to follow Gazby 84, didn't we? Bill 154. We did that for
054um OBPRs other post other postmployment benefits. I don't remember any policy with Gazby 54 problem. We use those reserves to fund salaries at a rate higher than we were reimbursed. So that's where the the majority of that trickled off. Thinking forward that we really have the cash flowing in in this community or the food. So we're we don't don't have two months budgeted expenditures in reserves. We do not. But in our um in our reserve accounts where all of the cash sits that gets transported out. We have cash reserves in our general fund that are sitting about three and a half million. We do have some reserves in other accounts. Um I don't believe that we could transfer those back. So, we have some money sitting in capacity and suitability. Um, but once you move
055it to a capital improvement plan, um, you're not allowed to move it back. Trusty Gry, Madam Chair, I sort of have the sort of the same memory as trusty me. I'm not sure it was Gazby required, but I can remember having some long conversations and it might have just I don't even know policy. It might have just been a conversation we were having that we knew at the time we had too many reserves. I remember that like you couldn't you couldn't get past a certain percentage. So I remember us having the long discussion multiple meetings um and Judine would have been on the board so this was a while ago. Um, and I remember us coming up with that the reserve should we were going to try maybe it was we were going to try
056I'm not sure it was like the rule um and keep I thought it was three months but maybe in terms of weeks right maybe it's two months I thought it was three months of so that we could hit a target and I don't know if we need to have that discussion again so that we know but it sounds like it's sort of hard for you to build up the reserve anyway but if we do start getting more money and being able to put stuff in reserve. I can remember us having a conversation that we were going to strive at least to have so many months and we were basing it off of salaries. I can tell you the I I remember those conversations and the reason we were having those conversations was because at the
057time there was a 15% limit on cash reserves through the funding model. Uh and then during COVID and ESSER the legislature increased that to temporary 30%. That now has sunseted. We're back to the 15%. Um but because the board approved basically advanced RCA preunding the RCA two years in a row. Um those I I have a list and I can provide that at the next meeting of all of the things that the board approved to come from cash reserves to get us where we are today. Um and I can I'll make sure that we get that on the next board meeting, but it was an a frontload of an RCA. There was a couple of other things at the time. I think it was the ECF technology purchase that was a million dollars out of
058cash reserves in order to take advantage of those ECF funds that the federal government was offering during COVID for technology refresh. Um so there's been a series of purchases that the boards approved from cash reserves um pretty intentionally. I mean, I think that those were good things to prove, but I also think that trustee me makes a good point um that our cash reserves is really low right now. I would like to see that come up. Other questions for director May. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Now we will move on to educational service committee meeting. Madam chair trustees um tonight we will be presenting if I can have Laura and Seth join me. Um our a very brief presentation on what was presented in our educational um services committee. Um the topic is around our evidence-based
059grading at the middle and high school. We wanted to make sure that the the whole board was informed about our progress this year and what that looks like from a parent view because we know that's come up um several times. Thanks. Uh board chair Carlin and trustee. My name is Seth better principal at the middle school. Laura Ker Marshman, assistant principal at JHS. Um so talking about evidence-based grading, we want to kind of give you the why first. Um and we look that a lot of us have gone through the 100 point um kind of traditional grading scale. Um and just as you look at that, um kind of the students knowledge of their own ability, our knowledge of their ability and the parents knowledge too can get diluted. Um you know, any course that
060you're taking, any learning that you're doing, you should be able to walk away with set skills. And a lot of times in that 100 point scale, what we're saying is, hey, if you do all of these tasks, you'll be ready. But no two learners are the same. And so everybody needs a different path to get to mastery. So when we're looking at EVG, we're looking at skill sets that we want them to know so that they can move on to whether it's high school, college, uh career and be able to be that learner for themselves and believe in themselves and know what they need to master the next skill. Um so thinking about that too as a parent. Um if I have a my daughter gets a B, that kind of just tells me a
061little bit of like she she didn't quite do everything we asked her to. But if she is looking at the EBG scale and we're looking at um a B, I can really say, you know, we've got multiple skills. Here's where she uh showed mastery in these skills and maybe this is where she needs work in those. Um so jumping off of that at JHS we've taken kind of a more gradual implementation sciency approach to rolling EVG based um practices into uh our whole English department this year and a handful of other classes at other departments um have kind of shifted their instructional practice and reporting um and we're moving towards kind of a fiveyear in year two of a five-year plan of moving more and more classes that way. Um, in addition to supporting the
062work from the admin side of things, I've also, um, gotten to co-e our integrated science class the past two years, which is our lower level junior year science class. Um, and we've been one of the classes that have tried on the evidence-based grading kind of approach to instruction and reporting this year. um figuring out a reporting system that is able to provide a clear picture about both a student's skill u mastery and their assessment performance and their success with kind of the practice and skill building assignments has definitely been a bit of a journey and working with Canvas and trying to figure out um what we can do because I am not a professional coder um but we've landed on a system using this component of Canvas called the mastery tracker um at the high
063school um that some classes have explored a lot more this year, including um the integrated science class and more. We'll be jumping into that next year. Um we were tasked by Scott with making an hour and 30 minute conversation into a fivem minute synopsis. So, please check out some of the documents that are linked here. Happy to answer questions, you know, after you explore that um about some of the things that we're doing to make this really clear to students and parents. Um, and yeah, I mean, my perspective is that in a world where a student can hover their phone over a math problem or a chemistry problem and get it solved for them, what I think is really important is that we work on designing systems that help build a student sense of agency
064and ownership over their learning and their skill development. Um, I want to shape students who use those AI tools as a means of support when they're stuck and they want to figure something out versus a way to copy down an answer and get points for it. Um, and that's not an easy thing to create, but I think it's a really important goal um, given the world we live in now and the tools that students have available. Um, and yeah, so as we've tried an EVG based approach in integrated science, it's been, you know, a journey and a a little bit of a bumpy road at times, but it's been really cool to see how focusing on teaching content through these enduring skills and breaking down student grades differently has shifted the conversations that we have
065with students and supported the development of increased agency and confidence. Um and these are with some of our students who struggle the most with with um academic work at the high school. Um the mastery tracker gives ability gives increased ability to drill down to specific still skills that a student is struggling with and customize additional practice um that is that students need to be successful. And it also allows us to better see and celebrate growth over the course of the semester in a way that you know that you have a 73% at the end of the term does not. Um, and I think it's been helpful to see how looking at some of these different visuals, this is one from the middle school, but if you click on the link, there's the high school example
066that we're trying on. Um, that it really just helps a student see the bigger picture of where they are, where they've come, and what they need to focus on um to increase those skills as we move through different units of content um over the course of the year. So, yeah. Um, and I'd say just working with the high school, um, kind of in my time in middle school, we've never been more aligned with what a student is being set up for success from 6 through 12. Um, especially around those skills and how they're going to develop them over time. Um, uh, Andrew, do you mind clicking on slide five? And so where the high school is sort of I think there are these two parts of how are we changing our instruction and really how
067does that what does that mean to kids and then how are we communicating that to them and to to uh parents as well. um that's it looks a little different maybe at the high school and the middle school where the um high school does report out for that GPA and the middle school it's the first time as a sixth grader they're coming from kind of one you know self-contained classroom or maybe two um to all a sudden they're balancing seven different um teachers and they're starting to really have to navigate that and become uh independent and organized. Um and so what we're doing is giving them a habit of work score. So, how are you preparing and what are you doing to get there? And then a mastery score. So, along our um skills, um
068how how close are you to mastery? And that you can have, you know, kind of four different student, well, you have lots of different students, but four different looks. And if you're looking at a student who's prepared and getting a three, that's awesome. That's fantastic. You might have a student who's not preparing and getting a four, and that's going to tell us something as educators, what we need to do differently for that student. um or you might have somebody who is uh preparing and not reaching mastery and that really is when we need to look at the specific skills that that student needs to get caught up. So, lots of good information um there. Thank you. Any questions? Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I don't want to beat a dead horse or maybe I do,
069but our fiscal management and goals uh policy code DB on annual budget provides in accordance with the uniform municipal municipal fiscal procedures acts that we will maintain a minimum unassigned fund balance in accordance with gazby 54 rules of two months of budgeted expenditures. So that's just something we need to think about when we're being asked to approve additional programs. And I understand absolutely, Kristen, that we made conscious decisions to spend reserves, but maybe people weren't thinking about we were supposed to come up with this as well. Absolutely. And I actually just went back and looked up Gazby 54 just because I was like that this doesn't ring a bell. I'm not finding in there that there's a minimum requirement. I think maybe we either need to look at that GASB 54 a little more closely
070or update the policy with whatever the board prefers. Um I don't see in Gazsby 54 that there's a specific reference to a minimum amount of cash reserves. It does speak to the different definitions of cash cash reserves and requires the district through our audit to report those unrestricted and restricted fund balances within the cash reserves accurately which we do on our annual audit. So, I have an email that I'm prepping to send to you all with the information from our audit around Gazby 54 as well as the entire Gazsby 54 policy from the federal government and then we can look at the policy to make sure that it's aligned with Gazby 50. Well, we have to be aligned with Uniform Municipal Fiscal Procedures Act, which is a state uh requirement. And we have, you know,
071done this policy and it's been in place since uh 1999. So, it's something we need to think about way. Thanks, Trusty Gaming. So, how far off are we from Did you say two months or two? Two months. Two months. How far like what are we at now? And how much it would take to get us to the two months? We'd probably have to double it. Other questions, comments, you ready to move on? Yeah. Um uh now we move on to other reports. So construction update Good evening, Madam Chair, trustees Diana facilities. So, I was going to start um just by highlighting we have a couple big major maintenance projects going on. So, one is the Jackson Hole High School roof, which if you recall, that was um we're getting the funding from the state to
072do that. Um so, it's not coming out of our major maintenance. um even though I included in that category, but so I wanted to highlight that. So that's about 20% complete and um I know that the staff at the high school are very thankful that's getting done because there have been leaks in that roof. The other big one is at Coulter Elementary, we are replacing all of the flooring and we're going to be painting the interior of the school. So that will start immediately after school ends. Um, and then the other roof one we're doing is at Davy Jackson. We're doing um the fourth of five phases of that roof replacement. So, that will get underway shortly after school ends. And then the last one is over at Alta. We're very excited. We're going to
073be doing some tiding repairs and painting the exterior of that school. So, that's kind of a snapshot of the major maintenance projects. And then with our capital projects, I included a link um to the report on our 24 unit employee housing project. That project continues to go very well on schedule and um I hope you got to take a look at the photos. All of the interior wiring, HVAC, all the building systems are being put in and they're going to start drywall pretty soon. So, it's really coming together. the Bron Achievement Center. Um that continues um to be paused until um the Mercer is completed. And then I included um a short update on the Mercer that we have a meeting, a working meeting scheduled, a virtual meeting on the 27th with the state facilities
074department to review the capacity information that we made some adjustments to. Um I also have um Neil um our project architect for the 24 um unit housing building online if you have any questions for me or him. I'm happy to stand for questions. Any questions? Trusty Gingry. Um on the cultural elementary I remember on Wilton you decided that maintenance-wise it was better to pull the carpet out and just go with the concrete. Is that what you're doing at Culture or are you replacing carpet? Um, no, we are pulling the carpet, but we're going to go down with the vinyl flooring um throughout the building with the exception of the library and the music. And then more of a question to the board or to the superintendent. This uh virtual meeting we're having on the 27th,
075are are we like do we need to brainstorm beforehand so we know what to say or are we just listening to them? Is it a back and forth? And if it's a back and forth, what do we need to say? Is it mostly the chair going to be talking? I was just curious what our game plan was. Um, so from what I'm able to gather from this information and from the invitation from um the state construction department, they um requested that the people that participated before um that included some of our um our our representatives um uh representative Yen and Store and um seems like we have one other one, but anyway, that we include anybody that wants to come and they specifically said if the same people could come back that would be great.
076Um and it's online so I thought we would host um a session here at the office so at least we could all be in the same room. Um and um based on our previous meeting that we had um gosh was that in March maybe um there was an opportunity for give and take um and it seemed like there wasn't really a tight agenda and so um and then we had the opportunity to really question some of the data and the data they were off by 100 students for example and that impacted the future forecasting significantly and So, we kind of got to a stopping point in the interim. They had to ask for some follow-up questions. So, I anticipate that at this meeting, they're going to be coming back to us and saying, "Okay, we
077heard you last time. Here are the updates that we've made. What do you think about this?" And I think this is counting as their community input, their their interest groups. Um and then the next step would be for the board to consider um their findings and if you agree then they move forward. Um there are a couple of things that are hanging out there. The vestibule um we definitely need to get resolution on that. Um and then we have a couple other projects that impact some other buildings that um I also want them to respond to because we've been waiting for them to respond. So I I believe it's very much a give and take and it and it is set for a extended period of time. They haven't sent me a draft. If they
078had sent me a draft, I think it'd be a really good idea for us to sit down and just go through it preliminarily, but they haven't sent that draft. So, um, I think it seemed that it was unstructured enough that if we had questions or comments that we'd have that opportunity to give and take. And Madam Chair, is the is the vestibial dependent on the Mercer or why isn't that money just flowing automatically? I wondered the same thing. Okay. So, you don't think it's dependent on the Mercer to get done? No, I think um initially was not a part of the Mercer and then we said, "Hey, this should be um why don't you go ahead and fund this now so we can get started on it and have it ready by school starting because
079it doesn't impact the flow of the interior of the building. We could start and they said, "Well, it's part of the Mercer. We're we're rolling it in." So, um yeah. M Dr. Chuck, is there any way u as I recall from that meeting, there was a lot of discussion with the consultant that they had hired and trying to educate that individual, give him numbers, provide him information. I seem to recall he was going to ask if he needed more and back and forth. I'm just wondering for the board's purposes, I'll just say for my purpose, is there any way to just summarize what they've asked for and what we've provided them is is is there some way to do that just so that going into this meeting, we have some idea about what the consultant
080has been doing because to be blunt about it, the consultant was the one that was making all these mistakes and was off and wasn't I mean was very friendly, but I'm just saying he was he was way off. I mean, he was wait friendly, but not He was friendly, but he was wrong. Kind of the way most people feel about me. Anyway, um u I just want to know so that we have an idea of what it's been provided because I think it was Dale rather was it Dale? Um D. and it seemed that at least um there was a good rapport with him in getting things accomplished or trying to work this forward, but he had to do his process. And I'm just wondering how much pressure we can put on uh not pressure,
081but get the consultant to get these numbers right. Yeah. Um, so I know Deanna and um the high school team responded to a number of questions and they were basically about the what rooms were being what they were being used for. Um, was it an office space used as a classroom? Um, any Yeah. And then there were just some errors in the floor plan. Exactly. Rooms were mislabeled and then the sizes of rooms. We made a few adjustments. So there was a lot of just updating their data. Yeah. Um, were there there no questions about these ongoing or proposed projects and future development and all that because I mean that's no and and they it's really not I don't think we'll see anything and so I I've been collecting articles to share um and especially
082now that the Northern South Park and the Virginia and the loop I you know I think we have a lot of huge projects um but they have they truly have no mechanism to predict predict the number of students that are coming out of those and they were really hung up on birth rates at St. John's and nationally birth rates are going down and so none of their calculations included that um future housing developments that are really not all that future driven. I mean they're opening in the next um you know 10 months. So um but I don't expect we will see any change in their calculations based on future housing developments. So Madam Chair, Dr. Chapman, then we it would seem to me that we have to be prepared once they issue their final to
083then we have an opportunity to lodge our objection. So we better be ready to go full full boore with that. And so those articles, but maybe information from the county about where those developments are at, anything that we can provide will say, hey, look, this is not realistic to say you're basing these numbers on today and we have three major developments. If you just took the percentage of students in households today and multiplied that by the number of units, we're talking I think somebody said like 80 90 extra kids. So I mean I it would seem to me that if we can get prepared have that pain. Yes, there's a great system. Agreed. Madam Chair, may one more update. I I forgot to mention our transportation building. So, we had our bid opening for the
084transportation building and I'm happy to report we had three bids. Um we're going through them to make sure that they're all qualified, but um we have bids within our budget. So unless something happens in the next 24 hours with us looking at them, I think we will be happy to bring a request from the board to approve a contractor to move forward. Great. Thank you. Thanks. Um and I would just say that you know this sort of related but we were talking about the safety vest vestibule at the high school and I mean I just think that that's an imperative thing that we need to really push through. I you know I I think space in the high school and all that is very very important but the safety and security of those kids particularly
085with some of the things that we're facing needs to be addressed. We agree. I think the biggest concern that they had with it was um they couldn't understand why um the the cost of construction was 2.1 million and that just didn't compare to what they've seen across the state. Um, and so I think they were trying to understand that and we did send over the drawings um, and the specs so that they could take a look at it and we didn't hear back. So um, that'll be an issue that we continue to pursue and if they want to do a different design, by all means, but do something. Yeah. Thank you. Y All right. Um, now we are going to move on to the review of first reads of policies. These are policies that were
086introduced to to the board last month for a first read. This is an interim touch base um before we um move on to the final second reading next month. Um uh Dr. Chapman's going to review these with us. some changes that have taken place. This is not an action item, so there isn't an opportunity for comment in this particular piece of the agenda. However, public comment will come next. And that is public comment on anything that's not on tonight's agenda. That means action items. So, if you have a comment on any of these policies, you will have your opportunity to do that next. Great. Thank you. Um appreciate that um summary and there are 11 policies. Two are um unrelated to um new legislation. So I'm going to start there. The rest are related to
087legislation. Um the first one is AC non-discrimination and the procedures. So ACA-R um and that R stands for regulations or procedures. And um just for the public's intent, I think this is helpful to know. The policy itself um generally is short and it's more philosophical states what we're trying to accomplish and then the dash R is related to it. It's referred to as a regulation, but it's really the procedures so that anybody could read it and figure out in order to follow or implement this policy, here's what we do about it. And then sometimes there's exhibits. And exhibits um can be a form. It can be um a flowchart, it could be a handbook. Um and so those are I like them to also be included because then it's one stop for people to go
088in search of policies. So the first one is uh non-discrimination and these are really related to um you know um promoting non-discrimination and um this this policy as I stated earlier generally the policy itself is short um like a couple of paragraphs this is uh a substantial policy and it is not short it's actually way more in depth than um normal policies. However, this is an extremely essential and important policy um that has gone through numerous iterations um in federal law and um in this particular these edits were recommended. Um we had um the partnership of the Department of Justice and they have gone through our policies and uh made uh suggested edits that comport to changes in the federal law and um I believe the changes that they've recommended really strengthened our policies and
089our procedures and also um make it sometimes policies are kind of hard to read um and I think there's some elements in here. Um, for example, a handbook is um is printed and that should be an more of a user, a student um a parent um could open up that handbook and really understand what we're trying to accomplish. Um so the Department of Justice um has been working and reviewing our policies for a long time. um they sent the their suggested policy edits right after our April board meeting. So we had our draft and then um since the April board meeting, the Department of Justice has have made these recommendations and they are in maroon and bold font um trying to distinguish what we had before versus um their recommendations. Um and again it's pretty
090substantial. Um but I do believe that these um their suggested elements really strengthen this policy and give good guidance to our our staff as well as to our um students and community members. Um so that's that first group of edits. The other one that is unrelated to um changes in the law is um JLC, that's the H student health services and requirements regulations. And um all we did here is change the date that the um physical examination by healthc care provider switches from June to May 1st. So that's the only edit on that one. Relatively easy. Um now moving into the um uh policies that are related to legislative changes. Sorry. I'm sorry, Madam Chair. Can I just interrupt before you get to the other ones because this I think is a simple question, but
091I looked over the policy that you were referring to. Um the Hold on a second. the uh AC and the ACR. And I'm just curious because the Department of Justice has made changes that incorporate into our policies federal law, specifically regarding sexual assault, domestic violence, stalking. These are things that are defined under Wyoming law. So, I'm just wondering why we're not using Wyoming law for us as a Wyoming school district versus the federal laws. um is did they give any rationale or was that question asked? uh because there are there are slight differences. Um I don't know that would make a huge difference but seems that we would want to incorporate Wyoming policies not federal and so in all of our policies um there are links and it's not listed here but when it's posted
092in board docs there are like cross references and links um to answer your question I don't know why they used the US law instead of Wyoming but the Wyoming ing laws are also cross-referenced. Um, a lot of times we don't in the policy list the law and instead we put it in that reference section. So, we could make that edit. So, it's it's inclusive and then take it out of the text. Yeah, because it's very specific citations to US code versus citations to Wyoming statutes. It just seems odd that we would do that versus using the Wyoming definition. It definitely does not flow with our usual policy. I would agree. Um if if that's a a a change you'd like for me to make before the June meeting, um that would be certainly Yeah, I
093don't want the Department of Justice knocking on my door for this, but uh yeah, I think it would be better than they've all been laid off. Okay. Yeah. um that doesn't exist. I just I I just think I just think that it would make more sense and I'm looking at specifically I think it's sexual harassment in the definitions. Um and it just that's the first place I saw it and it just didn't make any sense why we should use this when I know we have those definitions under Wyoming statutes. Okay, I will take care of that. Okay. Um moving on then the next um the next set um are really related to the um repeal of um gunfree school zones and um so starting with GKA this is would be a new policy and while
094the state um has now repealed gun-free school zones. Um there still is an opportunity in that in that decision. Any staff member could um conceal carry at school and the school district would have no authority um to do anything about it. So, this policy is meant to regulate and um provide more guidance um at a higher level than um if we did nothing. If we did nothing, staff could conceal carry and there's just really nothing we could do about it. it with this um draft. This uh would put some regulations on staff that and and basically has a higher standard. Um we the only changes that have been made to this draft policy from the last time it was introduced in April again in maroon font. Um and u the changes that we put in
095here um really relate to how this board made it clear that um the the board is is frustrated by the lack of authority um and that um school boards should have the right um to uh make decision and this uh legislative policy erodess local control and that is the primary function of the um elected board of trustees. So there's another statement in here that it was suggested and of course any of this could be changed wordsmith added or deleted whatever you want. Um we also added should the Wyoming legislature no longer require the policy um or allow the statute then the trustee shall immediately void this policy. And then um another statement that was suggested that we add is um signs on the doors um as well as in the policy that says in order
096to asssure student safety, citizens are asked to refrain from concealed carry on school property while recognizing that the legislature has allowed it. So those are the the changes um since the first read in April. Um and if there's anything else you would like us to add. Um um I'm curious because in the the language in the policy you just read the sign for the door and then we have something on our table and so I didn't know if that's a little bit different. Yeah. Um, so there's on on the trustes table, um, there's a also a draft of something that we could put on each exterior door that basically says, "Welcome to our school. We want people to come. Um, we respect your constitutional rights. Please help us maintain a safe and healthy learning environment.
097We encourage firearm storage before entering school grounds. Thank you for your cooperation." So, it's a different way of wording basically the same thing. Yeah. Other comments from the board, questions? Trusty Bosch. Sure. Um, Dr. Chapman, I I think that um this policy uh that is being uh somewhat forced uh upon us um needs to set a baseline in that um we want to make sure that the amendments to the statute which did away with the idea that anybody could walk onto a public school grounds with a gun. That was prohibited before. Now they're saying you can do that if you have a concealed carry permit pursuant to statute. I think our policy should be very clear that unless you comply with the law that you are not allowed on school grounds or not allowed to
098bring a gun or carry a gun. that was done away with by the statutes for this other option, but there's no baseline that's been set there. So, I think that our policy needs to be very clear that from our perspective um unless you meet the statutory requirements as well as for staff to meet whatever additional requirements we have. Um that um we are not opening our campuses or facilities for lack of better words to anybody to carry a gun. So would this statement comply with that or we could work that out? Okay. I was thinking we could say citizens must meet the statuto requirement madam chair. Yes. Are we talking policy KFB? Not this as much because this is the employee. This is the employee. I think it's for this as well but I think
099it applies to both personally but um because the employee one because the employee one did not have this volunteers. Yeah. Includes anybody. And the the problem is is that when they did when they amended the statute, they did away with the section that just said you can't do it. So now you can do it only if you have that permit. But the problem is is we still have this void that was left when they changed the statute. So I think it needs to be added uh to both of the policies. So, it's very clear that at least that we're not abiding for that. Um, I want to talk about whoever this did this, which is fine, but understand that the right to by the Wyoming Supreme Court, the right to carry an arm, concealed arm,
100is not a constitutional right. It is a privilege. And so, we respect these constitutional rights, first amendment and second amendment. However, we have an obligation to provide a safe and healthy environment, learning environment, and some limitations can be put on privileges like this. And so, we think that I I hope that this board will uh and Dr. Chapman, you'll come up with some part of the policies that there's a rational basis for what we're doing because there is and um we need to make sure that we ensure that we are doing the very best we can to provide that safe environment and that applies to whether it's a member of the public or a staff member or volunteer. Um there's nothing that prohibits us and and Sarah can um join in here or deni that
101can say that we can prohibit unless you meet the statute, you don't come to get to come on a facility with a gun. Okay. Um the next one is KFB and this is also a new policy and this is a prohibition of open carry of weapons on school policy. So um and so this is a brand new policy. Um we have not made any edits since the April introduction. It but it explicitly says you cannot open carry. The next item is conceal carry of firearms KFC. Um also not something that we have to adopt. um because the Wyoming law now allows this beginning July 1. However, this policy attempts to state it again um where and and the only edits that are made are again um in maroon font um and it's basically the same
102language as um written previously. The next one, chair, I'm sorry. Yes, I see you. I I have a question. Um, Superintendent Dr. Chapman, um, with this concealed carry of firearms that we're looking at is is there a clear definition of what type of firearm that is? Um, do we do we know what stat sorry statutoil Okay. So, there's a list that describes what type of you cannot conceal carry a shotgun or a rifle. It's Yeah, there's a list of it or a modified Yeah, modified. There's a list. Okay. The next policy also related to this and um is an update and on this one you can see uh it's JIC weapons and school. You can see how the policy the legal references um and so we went ahead and added um Wyoming statute 68104 lawful
103concealed carry in public schools. Um, so this one explicitly calls out that students enrolled in elementary or secondary schools may not possess um, and that is a part of the statute. And so we specifically added that in here. Um, and this is in the J section, so it's really related to students. And um this would also cover if a student from another school district came to watch a football game or whatever um and if they had a concealed carry, they could not um legally be carrying u because they are a student enrolled in another school. Madam Chair, yes, Dr. Captain, does how does this cover homeschooling and any type of private school and virtual schools? I would say if if they're homeschooled, they are enrolled in a secondary or an elementary program. So, I would
104I would say that they're um prohibited from participating. And if they're attending an independent or a private school be the same thing. Maybe we would change school to program. Any elementary or secondary school or program ad or program. Perfect. Are there any other types of education programs that we're not covering that we should think about that should be covered? I suppose to really cover the bases. I could add homeschool in there and explicitly call it out. Yeah, I would call it home private home school. What if some a student has been expelled but not reenroll into any type of school program? I would hope that they would be prohibited from obtaining a concealed carry. Madam Chair, not trust. If if they've been expelled, they've probably also been legally banned from the property to begin with.
105But not necessarily ours if they've been expelled from someplace else. Um I I could add that. I mean I'm not. Yes. Yeah. I'm just trying to look at all options. No loopholes. Yeah. Um one of the um Laramie County Cheyenne um I shared the article with you. They wrote in there, they have one school that's on the Air Force base and the federal law supersedes uh state law and so they physically wrote that into the into it. Probably should put some disclaimer on that because we do have one school on federal land. Yeah. Even though they allow open camp containers open containers. That's another what that's like open carry in the national parks those regulations can change so we just need to recognize that okay I will add that um the next edit um KF
106and K section is basically the community use of schools so on the K section. Um the red edit um basically repeats the statute um that does allow weapons um on school premises with the exception of persons lawfully carrying concealed weapons. And then we added again the maroon statement um in order to asssure student safety where citizens are asked to refrain from. Um, so again that could be edited and we basically put that on um the bottom of each of these policies. Trusty Bosch, Dr. Chapman, if I understand this, this is other entities that are using our facilities at some point in time. Are these entities that are doing this under some sort of agreement with us or um it's a great question. They could be people like um the um we've hosted on school property
107the the butterfly thing. Um they the fields um to have people dressed in butterfly outfits. Um we hosted the um uh the cultural um CWC has um used last year a year ago um for the Native American um celebrations they used Mountain Elementary School. So we have community groups. Um we rent out the fields and the space um for um soccer clubs, lacrosse teams, um rugby, uh all sorts of we've hosted the celebration for LOJ at the end of um that. So you know, this basically covers community use of the of school district property. And you can probably already guess where I'm headed with this, but if they're coming to use our facilities under some sort of agreement, these op these privileges can be waved. And I would suggest that we look at doing that
108for any organization that is contracted or renting our facilities that as part of that agreement that they sign a waiver of the privilege to do this. I don't see any prohibition against that and I think that the laws common law as well as case law and statutory law support that. So um would it be then we say um preventing the use of pos uh or possession of alcohol, drugs, tobacco or weapons period? Um to put me on the spot. Thanks. Well, you could you could get back to me. Um I'm just trying to figure out I will look at this and okay circulate edits but um chair trusty script just a thought. So we've we've put all of these things in especially with these outside groups. How do we enforce it? Okay, that's I mean
109we They come in, oh, you've got a gun in your pocket. You know, your group I mean, what's the penalty? Well, um when we have issues with um and it happens very rarely where we have issues with outside groups that um you know do damage or whatever. um if we find out about it um then we could revoke their privileges in the future, deny their permits um and they have to apply and you know generally there's a fee it's nominal but we can revoke their fees and just say you're not allowed. Um but when we don't have anybody showing up and supervising or enforcing when outside groups use our facilities. Do we take a deposit where if we find that they violated the terms of the contract the deposits? Yes, we do. it was retained
110and we've had I mean one time I can recall well maybe it was where um an outside group was using the school building and they did some damage you know in the classroom you know they moved stuff or they you know wrote on the boards and that kind of thing but um we we can absolutely supervise that and manage that u madam chair I I think that at least oops sorry from my perspective um we have to do everything we can um to provide that safe environment. If somebody else on the outside wants to come and they don't do that, well, that's on them. But we have to do everything we can. And I would think uh when we have to talk to our insurance company about this, when we start at least letting them
111know what steps we're taking, hopefully that will minimize the increase in the premium as well. Because if we can say to these outside organizations, we don't tolerate this. you want to do it. You know, there's a penalty for it, whatever that is. We can't control them, but at least we're doing what we can do to try to prevent it the best we can. Okay. Um, two more and then I'm done. Um, the next one is also a new policy. Um, EJ, um, unrelated to weapons. Um and this one is sex designated facilities. The entire policy is new. Um and um the only edit again that was made is the first paragraph written in maroon um that basically um states the Wyoming legislature has required this policy. Um so um Dr. Chapman related to this policy
112um are there single sex or non you know single stall bathrooms in all the buildings? No. And is it possible to add them where they are not? Yes. Um we are in the process of adding that um and there is a substantial cost to it um including design fees and and we've already started that process because this policy went into place upon governor's signature on March 3rd. Um, and so I, uh, brought to the attention of the state construction department, um, how should I process, um, the design fee and the construction of a single stall restroom? And they said they'd get back to me because they were unaware of this policy. Um, so, um, I that's on my list to ask them about next Tuesday when we have our meeting. Thank you. Yes. In order
113for us to um be in compliance um and and offer reasonable accommodation, we need to get this started immediately so we're ready um for school in the fall. Thank you. And then the last policy um related to the legislative session is the homeschool policy. Um in red is what and and stricken. Um that was uh deleted in the April board meeting for the first read. And then um the added maroon statement is the board of trustees strongly affirms the importance of a strong academic foundation and shall maintain the standards of academic and behavioral expectations of students when participating in activities. So that was added um to be sure that um and express um our um affirm the importance of a rigorous homeschool um curriculum so that students are meeting uh the expectations that we expect
114in order to participate in activities. And that concludes the summary. And um again, we can take feedback and present um this to the board for the June board meeting um for a final read and vote. So there's plenty of time to make additional edits. Thank you. Um, Madame Chair, uh, Superintendent Chapman, have we ever done a combination school agreement with a homeschool family for participation in Wyoming High School Athletic Association sanctioned activities? Um, homeschool students are allowed to participate without um, I mean they're they're allowed to participate in any of the activities association things. they're not necessarily allowed to participate in um activities that are not sanctioned and that would be like a middle school student because those are not Wyoming activities. Um what I'm getting at is that in your in the second paragraph,
115third paragraph here, it says um participation in public school extracurricular activities, yada yada yada yada. uh sanction activities by registering with Wyoming High School Athletic Association, executing a combination school agreement and meeting all other school district eligibility requirements. So that may include grade requirements uh and academic performance requirements, right? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Make me happy. Madam chair. Yes. Can I ask for a fivem minute recess? Yes. Let's take a look. I had it in my head. We will be back at uh how about 7:55. A 7 minute recess. and start public comment. Maybe I'm just I'm not following this. We We can't comment on these other report items. No, you can't. We can't. What? We're not commenting. What? We're not asking for comments on things that are action items tonight because during
116each action item there is an opportunity for public comment. Is there anybody who would like to make public comment? Is this regarding HB172 now? What's HB12? Yeah. The gun that we were just enrolled act. Yes. Okay. Yes. Um, thank you. Thank you all so much uh for your public support and your time and your service regarding this bill. Um, I stand here today with a bunch of moms who, you know, some couldn't be here. um to thank you all for your brave opposition to the bill to highlight some relevant statistics affecting our schools, but I also have a path forward. Um I have to say sitting here and listening to you discuss this, I am so deeply grateful and I feel much safer as a parent here um in Teton County hearing how you're going
117to implement and the safety measures and precautions that you're taking. I am very worried about leaving my bubble here. Um, I'm already traveling with a six-year-old to all over the state for gymnastics competitions. And I do feel like the empathy and the thoughtfulness of Teton County could be part of something bigger across the state. And I would like to propose something to you um at the end of this. And I would like to say that um when this bill became law, everyone was like, "Oh, of course Tissan County doesn't agree with this. Of course, there's a lot of outspoken um opposition." But for context, all public opinion surveys have been in gross opposition to this bill. University of Wyoming survey, 3,000 responses, 64% opposing concealed carry on campus. State Building Commission two public comment periods
118about concealed carry in the Capitol showed 87% and 64% opposition respectively. That was in Wyoming Newswe.com. There was a KGAB poll. We have um 63% wanted Governor Gordon to veto it. Um Wyoming Tribune Eagle in August of 20 24.1% said no to allowing concealed carry in the capital extension. Um and even law enforcement has expressed their concerns. Uh Alan Thompson, executive director of the Wyoming Association of Sheriffs and Chief of Police, stated the organization prefers to leave the districts about arming schools to local boards. And my point of telling you all this, which I think you guys already know this, but it's not just Teton County, it really is the constituents of Wyoming are saying we don't want this and the legislation is choosing to go in the direction that they have obviously um chose
119to go in. I have a bunch of sort of disturbing facts here about who can legally possess a concealed uh carry gun in this state, how easy it is to get a gun without a background check. Um, and how we are a constitutional carry state and a lot of people are walking around with guns without permits. Um there are there is a provision in the bill that says private property owners may still restrict firearms and um I would like to get to that in uh a moment. Um it says the school boards may create rules for employees or volunteers who carry uh and I ask you and I beg of you for you know the highest amount of training. You could um wrap up this. Okay. Here's what I would like to wrap up is
120um obviously we all know that firearms are the leading cause of death of children under 18 in this country and that we have a massive um suicide rate by firearms uh in the state and a group of moms met with a really respectable civil rights law firm in the state and we would like to talk to you guys about a path moving forward that actually has nothing to do with guns but we think could have a substantial impact in keeping our school safe and I feel like, you know, if we as a whole sort of take this laying down, then like so will our kids. So, thank you for your time. My suggestion, too, is if you want to write us about your plan, send it to school board. Um, we can we will all
121read it. Okay. Thank you so much. Can I get your name? My name is Joe Newman. Thank you. My name is Phil Shoner. I have a comment slashquest. Would the school board have the authority to require someone with concealed carry permit to identify themselves while on campus with a armband or some way that we would be able to identify them as a person carrying a firearm? Um, hi, Madame Chair and trustees. Thanks for um, opening up this conversation. My name's Heather Smith. I'm a parent like Joe of a nine-year-old who goes to school um, at Dr. P's school. And um, I'm also a business owner and my background is in civil rights work. So um, I again also want to express my gratitude. I think you are all working really tirelessly trying to figure this
122out. Um, and I don't um, envy the position you are all in tonight. Um, I do support Chairwoman Me's public suggestion that the best option is to actually resist implementation. Um, I think this moment calls for bold action and there are creative ways where we can resist implementation particularly around leveraging the property rights of the district. Um, each time news breaks of another school shooting, my natural instinct is to want to keep my daughter at home. When I see a police officer stationed at a door to the school after a shooting, I'm caught be between feeling gratitude that they are there and deeply unsettled that this is the reality we have in 2025 as parents. Um, many of you are parents yourself and I understand that that you share these concerns. Um, should the board
123choose to adopt its policies related to firearms, I would ask you to consider a few specific measures. The first, like you've talked about, is maximum training requirements. Implementing the most rigorous training requirements possible for anyone that that might be carrying a firearm on school property. Um, the gentleman who just spoke, I think that's a really creative way um of identifying people who might have a firearm on them. um updated student training today. My daughter came home and said we had um an intruder training today and I was like, isn't that some timing? Like that we're here tonight talking about this. Um I think that protocol has to be revisited and um I would urge that to also be part of the the conversation outside of only adding different policies, but that we really need to
124be thinking about what it looks like on the ground. um enhanced security measures, um bulletproof glass. I know there's a deficit, but um as a parent, I would want to see all of those windows windows covered because they are easily accessible. We're walking on the playground at um at the school we attend um in Jackson. And then lastly, uh transparency for for parents. Um, I'd be curious what options might exist for making sure that families understand if there are firearms in the school where their students go and especially if there um instructors are are carrying any firearm. Um, every morning I drop my daughter off and I am entrusting her, you know, my entire world in your hands and, um, I think this moment deserves pause and, um, like I said, some resistance um, and
125some bold action because it's this isn't going to be the last thing that we are encountering and at some point I think we have to ask ourselves how far and how much are we willing to um, you know, tolerate ate in our schools where our kids and you know our beautiful wonderful teachers are are working. So thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the room? Hi there. I'm Stina Brock. I've got children at the elementary school at Munger and also at the middle school. I just wanted to reaffirm my uh belief in what Heather and Joe had said. Really appreciate everything you guys are doing and the more you can do the better. I think there are a lot of parents out there that would be supportive if there's anything that the parents can do
126to get involved to support you in any efforts for safety. I also wanted to mention that I have talked to a lot of parents since this happened and I think there are many many children that will be moving to private schools and so I think it's an in our district. So, I just wanted to make sure that was on your radar. I think it's a concern for all of us when people leave the public school system. Andre, is there anybody online? Yes, I have Laura Sto. Oh, Laura's unmuted, but she might have put her hand off. Hi, good evening. My name is Can you go ahead? Okay, good. Hi, good evening. My name is Laura Sto and I am a mother of two kids at Munger and reaffirming what is said tonight. A huge immense
127gratitude from day one when this became an issue. Um, our school board stepped up and thank you Dr. Chapman for physically going to Cheyenne and opposing this. Thank you guys for adding in the language that you are not supportive of this. Um, I would just echo a couple things in the training aspect. I'm unsure unclear on why in one of the policies that you have drafted it says 16 hours including eight hours of scenario training. I think the max we can do is 16 hours and um eight hours of scenario training. And I would encourage you if there is a max we can go to that we look at that max. Um I think that will help deter um folks from doing this. And then I have the same questions that were asked before of
128as a parent, will I um is there transparency that I can ask and and know if my child's teacher is um is caring? I that feels important. Um as well as the fact that we do have parents ready to rally around this. Um there's ideas floating around as Joe has mentioned around um fundraising for litigation. Um and so if there are ways that we can support you guys, we just are really grateful for the stand you're taking can you know and and want to support you and doing what whatever we can. So thank you. Thank you. Anyone else in the room? Right. I'll close public comment. Thank you everybody for taking the time and we will move on to action items. Madam Chairman, I move to approve the interim superintendent contract as discussed in the
129executive session. I have a second. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Uh congratulations Dr. Chris, thank you. Uh consideration of a request for proposal uh uh propo proposal for national superintendent search. Um we would like to um well it's up for discussion but uh this is a discussion about um hiring a national search team to help us um first uh facilitate a strategic meeting to determine what it is we need and what we want to see as our goals going forward. um and then to do a search uh to determine who the best uh person to take us to those goals will be. Uh does anybody have any comments or um Madam Chairman? Um they provided some good feedback um regarding the timing and um on boarding and communication. Um I think
130onboarding was a misuse of a term. Um I think it was more of helping guide us. As much as I love Sue Bellish and the WSBA retreat support we've had ever since I've been on the board, I think having if we do with a national firm, have them come in and help lead us with a little outside um think that's um important. Um as far as the dates go, I was hoping that we could have a uh um time with Dr. Chris and the and the seven of us and a facilitator before the school year started um in the fall to help set his guide set his goals and set him up for success um for the upcoming school year. And then as far as communication goes, I agree with Kate. I think Charlotte, our
131truency officer slash communication slashtitle n coordinator slash what else you do? Facilities. Facilities person. She can find the right hat to wear. I'll figure out which one to put on. Yeah. in this um madam chair the new RFP that appears in your documentation. I thank you for moving the dates back. I mean just a little um I think that we are pretty busy in the summer and uh that's a really hard time to um be working on this when we have to do the budget and that sort of thing in middle of July. So that's why I asked for it to be moved. I think that was a good suggestion. Any other comments or discussion? Um, I guess we'll open it to public comment. Seeing none, we'll close public comment. I will take a motion.
132Madam chair, I move to approve the request for n national superintendent search as presented. Second. All in favor? I I I oppose. Motion carries. All right. Consideration of the fiscal year 26 TCSD number one compensation package. Um let's see. Here comes Director Mayo. Uh the only change to this since you last saw it was just the swap out of the professional certified matrix. Um the last draft had the other thing we were going to change. We went back to the original and we have a commitment from the staff member to study that for the next year to really figure out what will work best for those staff members. Thank you. Any questions for Director M? Um, see none. All right. Thank you. We'll open it to public comment. All right. We'll close public comment. Um,
133do I have a motion? Madam chair, I move to approve the fiscal year 26 TCSD number one comp package as compensation package as presented. Second. Is there any board discussion? Madam Chair, trust comment for uh director Mayo and um other sham um and the others in your department that really worked hard on this. Guys, thank you so much for your hard work figuring out how to make all of this work under the model that we currently operate under. And hopefully we'll be so fortunate to have at least the same model next year. Thank you. All right. Uh we have a motion and a second. Um all in favor I uh opposed. Motion carries. We will move on to consideration of Sedexo Food Service Management Contractor renewal. She's back. This is the uh contract renewal for
134the U Sedexo uh food service. Bless you. Management contract. Um we were able to negotiate uh one big piece one of the big contributors to our subsidy this year was it's called the meal equivalency factor and uh typically in our contract it says that we'll increase the meal prices as well as the meal equivalency factor by a CPI the March 2025 CPI was 3.8%. If you go down a little bit, please on the contract um on your table in front of you, I did have to update um number one and now number one on this original submission is now one and two on the documents in front of you and that is due to the additional negotiation of the meal equivalency. I was able to ask for a higher meal equivalency factor which will in
135turn reduce our costs. Um, but it was it it it wasn't adjusted by the 3.8 CPI, so we had to break it out and separate it out into one and two paragraphs and not just one here. Thank you. Thank you for negotiating, Madam Chair. Um, director Mayo, what does the negotiation of that um that cost mean to what the students will pay? Uh, it doesn't. Our meal pricing is completely separate from uh what we pay the contractor. They're not directly tied to each other. So after this is approved or not approved, tomorrow Danny and William and I actually have a meeting to talk about some meal pricing. I don't anticipate meal pricing will go up. Um, I have a couple of strategic things I'd like to talk about with them. And actually, if we reduce
136some of our alle cart pricing, uh, our subsidy will reduce. Um, so there's a couple of factors in there that may change. I don't think they'll go up. I would imagine that they would go down. If there's any changes to our meal pricing, they would come before the board uh, for approval. Thank you, Chie B. Madam Chair, Kristen, um, one thing on this amended, I looked at the original contract. Thank you for providing that to me. And we are now going to be obligated for vehicles, equipment, transportation, all that. What is that added cost to us? Because before they were so it it we actually were all along. Um, it was our vehicle that we've been using to transport those meals and that was the plan. And it, you know, I think we just revised
137the contract to be what we're actually doing. Um, they, so in our original contract when they came and they did the site tours, we have a food service van that we intended to use. Uh, the one big expense that we'll have, and I don't know how big it will be. We're going to cost it out this summer. We need to get our van equipped to be able to transport hot meals. Uh, and then we'll be able to provide a better service to Moran and Kelly. Right now, we're just doing cold meals to Moran and Kelly because they don't have the facilities to store hot meals. So, there's a little bit of improvement that we need to do to our own equipment in order to give them the full service at the outlying schools. If that's
138a transportation cost, is that reimburseable from the state or no? No. So, it's transportation costs that are reimburseable through the state are student transportation costs, not food transportation costs. It's not going to increase our subsidy because we're already using it. So, do you have an when do you think you'd have an idea about what the increase in cost will be? We'll have an estimate on what it's going to be to upgrade the van with it with the proper equipment. and I can bring that um if it's over 25,000, which I don't know if it will be, it will come to the board for approval anyway. Um otherwise, I'll bring that to finance committee for review there. Because I mean, I think by signing this contract the way it is now, we're we're pretty much obligating
139ourselves to do that no matter what the cost is because we're the ones now responsible to provide the transportation, right? Well, we were before. No contract said they were we were doing it. Now we're going to be obligated to do it either way. Correct. Yeah. Also, um um I don't know Sarah and Dr. Chapman, all the issues we've been talking about with regards to the concealed carry and stuff, this might be an opportunity to include in this contract as well because I'm not sure food services would fall under are actual employees or other things that we have. So, we should think about adding language into this contract before it's signed. We absolutely can do that. I if we add any language to this contract, it has to go back to the department Wyoming Department of
140Education Nutrition Division for their approval. They have to approve this contract before we can sign it. Um, so and we have to do that before June 1st just as a conversation point. Understand? And then they would have to approve the language. From my perspective, it needs to be in there. But yeah. and and and you know, nobody nobody thought about world class having to do this, but it seems to me that it also should apply to the custodians, but yeah. Contracting. Might we in order to um meet this contract deadline, might we draft an amendment that we could send in addition to and it so that we could get this taken care of and then we could do an amendment with premier and an amendment. Is that there's issues with that that probably we need
141to discuss in a different setting. Okay. Madam Chair, um, Director Mayor, what happens if we don't get this side? Uh, you said June 1st. Uh, we just have to have it approved by WDE by June 1st. You all could sign it at the June meeting. So, the process would be if you want me to add additional language, I can add that and then send it back to WDE. As long as they have it and approve it by June 1st, you guys can approve it in June. Okay. Um, that being said, if she doesn't like the language and won't let us add it, I won't be able to add the language. Um, they're pretty nitpicky about how we put things in here. Um, it took us about 3 days to get one and two broken out
142of just one up here and to get them to approve those pieces. Um, and I'm happy to do this work and go forward. I just want to have a realistic expectation that WDE may not approve that language and then we wouldn't have a contract to move forward. I would um madam chair Christend I would agree with Trusty Bosch that we ought to give a give it a run. Sure. And it only needs to be one sentence. Yep. That employees of Sedexo will not carry concealed. I will add the language, have it submitted to WDE by June 1st, and then if for some reason she's not approving it, I'll communicate through um this two superintendent back to the board um and just figure out what next steps are if they don't approve it. But as long
143as they have it and approve it by June 1st, then we can bring this back for approval at the June meeting for you all. Um just for clarity and I think this is a board thing. Um clarity we would be adding in that any Sedexo people who work for Sedexo in our schools would follow the same stat policy. Is that correct? Or were you saying they wouldn't? I I that's what I just want to be clear on what you I would just say I mean we can contract in any way we wanted with private entities. I would just say they're not allowed to conceal carry or open carry in Ton County schools on Ton County property. You can get the language right, but we would want to ask Sedexo to make sure that they do
144that with their employees and between Sarah, we can get the language pretty quickly, but it would be on them meaning Sedexa to do this and force this, not us. Okay. So, let's see. Um, continue this. Is that what I'm hearing? Can can we can continue it till June or Okay. I meant to continue this to the June meeting. Second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I I post. All right. Consideration of the TCSD number one rec district 1.0 mil levy request. Thank you. um trustees of the um recreation district advisory board um met and um recommended that the um school district trustees um maintain the 1.0 mil levy request in order to support activities um that are recreational in nature. Thank you. Any questions for the superintendent? Trusty Bosch. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um Dr.
145Chapman, on the list of project names, you would have um or somebody has listed out the project name and then the final report and it says yes, yes, yes. And then some say none, not applicable. And then down there's two um says not recommended for approval by the advisory board, but it says yes in the final report. I'm just curious why that's there. So, um, a part of the requirement to, um, apply next year, like if you're, um, a repeat applicant, you have to final file your final report in order to be considered. So, there's two that say not applicable because they're new requests. And then um the two that are um community number 23 and community number 24, those two that are highlighted in turquoise or teal or whatever color that is um those
146they did file their final report, meaning they had been approved um in prior years. However, the advisory board did not um they didn't get enough votes to move their request forward to the full board. Thank you. Any other questions? All right. Any public comment? Seeing none, um do I have a motion? Madame Chair, I move to approve the TCSD number one rec district mill levy request of 1.0 mills as presented. Second discussion. Uh seeing none u I'll call the question. All in favor I I opposed. Motion carries. All right. Seven, consideration of CWC Bosey's 0.15 mil levy request. Thank you. Um, trustees, this is the continuation of the 0.15 CWC Bosey's mil levy request. It's the same as somewhere we missed something. Consideration number six is consideration of grant application. Oh yeah, it is. Sorry,
147I rolled. Okay, consider Sorry about that. Let's back up. Uh consider I thought it was there and then I couldn't find it. But anyways, consideration of the TCSD number one rec district fisc year 26 grant applications. Madam Chair, yes. Well, um, Stefan was the chairman at the advisory committee meeting. He did a really good job managing all of us. And we were there for 17 hours. I think it was a full two hours before we got through the first four. He was he was very uh detailed. So what what we did as you see on this list um there were 24 community applications, grant applications and the the advisory board uh voted to approve 22 and then voted um not to approve the request from um Teton Avalanche uh uh AAU basketball and slow food
148of the Tetons. In addition, the board voted to approve the two Teton County Parks and Wreck. Whoop, you're moving too fast for me. Oh, sorry. Um, and then all of the TCSD grant applications which kept us within budget and within the mill that we're requesting. Great. Thank you. Any public comment? Seeing none, Madam Chairman, I would move to approve the the recommendations uh from the advisory board for the TCSD number one recreation district fiscal year 2026 community applications 1 through um 22, Teton County Parks and Recck applications one and two and the TCSD number one grant applications as presented. Second. It's been moved and seconded. Any more discussion? Madam Chair, Trustee Abrams, I am curious. We had there were some discussions when we were in the rec district board as far as the criteria. Um,
149when would the rec district board meet again to review those conversations and concerns that some of the rec district board members had regarding the applications. So, we can just refine um discuss do we need to um review how we the criteria is set. So, anybody who applies really understands um what the criteria is where how they're being um reviewed for the application versus um you know being kind of you know whether you like it or not or you maybe that's not the that's certainly not the right word but just give a little bit more um structure to the process of how we should consider things for it. Um, so I I think from what I remember hearing is there's been a lot of improvement over the years. I was just gonna say which I appreciate
150and um it just sounded as though that was my first meeting. I really appreciate it. Thank you for your kind words. I saw people rolling their eyes. Um but how can we make it even better for everybody so when pe when people are sitting through that uh long meeting at least before they put it in the application they they know how we're going to gauge it. house committee meeting. You know, in the past, the uh rec district board met four or six times a year. And so that's when we did some of that work and the meetings that weren't the grant applications. Um but now with this new format, I'm not sure how that would work. So probably we need to think. And I do think that it sounds like um you know, we did
151do a lot of improvement. When I came on the board, it was one way and then uh Trusty Scarlet, Trusty Me came on that board and we really tightened things up, but it it's clear that we need even more parameters. One suggestion I might add, um the application is really well done and explains things so the applicant does know. Um, one thing you could consider for the board so that you're you're thinking and because you do it so infrequently, um, we could send the application to the board and if there are other language or points that you want to add to it so that the applicant clearly knows that the intended purpose is for recreational use of children. That's the primary. You could add whatever you'd like to it so that it really strengthens that
152application. and then the applicant will know what the expectation is. I think that will be helpful. Trusty, Madam Chair, I mean the um could have made another mistake, but you know, one of my considerations throughout this whole thing was that these programs, whatever they are, have to be open to all students and not just select students. And so for me there were um there were issues that came up during this where we had some organizations with very long waiting lists and I was hesitant to vote in favor except for the programs were programs that we need in this community and I think that it's they're important but I'm also wondering what can they do or how can we maybe prompt them to, you know, modify their request or do better or do whatever they can
153to get uh reduce those waiting lists. And the other organizations that just came in that had, you know, their own selections that I I just they should know that at least if as long as I'm on that board, I'm not vote for that. I mean, it has to be open to all students, right? But you know and I would say simply because I'm deeply involved with the um community the community that surround that provides uh care and education to children before after school during summer that you know for most of those situations it's a capacity issue. We need more programs in Teton County. And it's not that they they're doing anything. They're just strapped by their capacity, you know, and some programs are, you know, they whether it's they don't have enough space or they
154don't have enough um staff or or whatever. You know, I I do think that it's just like everything else in Ton County. It's capacity issue. It's not that they don't want to take their entire list, but that would be my that's just sort of an editorial comment to bring Janine into the next uh other that was thank you for that suggestion. All right. Uh let's see. Do we have a motion on the table? We do. Okay. Any other discussion? Uh, all in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. All right. Consideration of the CWC Bose's.15 mil levy request. Thank you. Um, trustees. This is the same mill lever request that we um currently have at 0.15 and the purpose of the CWC um bosses and the joint board with um the CWC um team as well is
155to support um dual and concurrent enrollment and programming that supports um training and support for students um that are college and career ready. Um and that is the purpose of the CWC Boseies mill levy. And um the board had a a good healthy discussion um about the uh mill levy and um some interest in considering um some a more um robust discussion about how CWC Boseies operates and um what potential changes we may put in place especially considering that the um CWC to see Jackson campus will be opening, you know, in the next 18 to 24 months. Um, and so it's a good opportunity for this next year for that board to work more closely um together to consider is is this what's best for our students? Is it working um and and putting some
156limits on the number of credits that students can earn as well? Um, so it it's been an amazing program and an opportunity for our students. It's a good time for us to update it. So we'll be focusing on those efforts and um, trustee or Dr. Dornan is the chair of that board and um, so we look for some more um, collaborative conversations um, to take place over the next year. chair trusty me. Um I was on the uh CWC OS board. I think all of us have been at one time or another. And I did notice that uh the the fund balance was 500 thou over $500,000. Now that's been about the same nearly every year. And it seems to me, I'm glad you're talking about looking at it again because it seems to me
157that the 0.15 may be more than is needed um for those that programming and we're sort of trying to find ways to spend money. Um and that's probably um not the best way to govern. Trusty Gry. So we had a pretty good conversation. I'll just throw this out because I think the whole board is going to want to discuss this throughout the next year. They actually came in last month and actually asked for a much higher mill and and we said no much higher and we said no it needs to save it to 0.15 and and so understand they're sort of doing three things. One is concurrent. And just to remind everybody, concurrent means it's at our high school. It's our teachers and and they're teaching and the kid gets college credit. And many kids
158go on to college. They show up to college with 15 20 credits already on. Great program. We all love it. We tried to get them to expand the program. That didn't that wasn't very successful this year. Um, a lot of the other school districts using coordinating with other community colleges in in the state have a much more robust concurrent program, especially in the sciences. And so kids are showing up at the University of Wyoming with essentially more credits than but that we're a small school district. The the part that they're wanting to expand into, which we do not do right now, is duel. Duel is where you go to CWC and it's their teachers. So that's the distinction. Concurrent is our teachers, duel is their teachers. And so a student would actually go to their
159campus uh to do a class. Um we do not have any of that set up right now. And that's really what Sandy's um the head of CWC uh is really wanting to expand. Um, and that's the discussion we're going to have this coming year is a do do we want to do dual? B, what programs do we want to do? Is it, you know, is it nursing classes? Is it, you know, hospitality? Is it, you know, whatever it is. Um, and that's going to potentially be expensive. You know, that's money. Um then the third thing they're doing and and this is the one we we sort of asked them a bunch of questions about and I didn't realize we had sort of this program I knew we had it and kept expanding. It's one of
160those types of things that it's there and then it and it's called Bridges. Um Bridges is a program for kids that need some remedial work during the summer prior to attending CWC. Um and so they they do that here in Jackson. they do their remedial work um and it's throughout the summer that program right now we're funding at 30,000 they were wanting to jump that up substantially um and so you know that may be a smart move I don't I don't know so the the two things we're going to want to dis well I guess there's three things the three things we're going to want to discuss throughout the next year which will all cost money and will all cause the no levy to increase is is there some way to increase concurrent if there
161is like boy I'd love to do that um because that that I think is a very positive thing. Do we want to move into the duel? And if so, how much? How how much do we want to move into that that concept? Um it'll be much easier now because the school's right there. The kids can walk to it. Um and third, do we want to continue with this bridges program? So, those are the three things we're going to want to discuss. um and and and Trusty Doran will chair our our committee to to work on it. But I think the whole board's going to want to have that discussion because I I'm sure next year at this time we're going to want to have a discussion about so if our our committee comes back and
162says we think it's great, we should expand all these things. It's going to cost more money and so it's going to be a higher building. We're going to need to have that discussion as to to moving to that higher building. I guess philosophically we have to discuss too whether it's our job to be sending kids sort of paying for kids college basically that's what they're asking us to do and my guess is that CWC is not going to want to have our program in our schools at all once they have their campus built they're going to want all our kids to go over there so that will be interesting to talk about Right. Uh any more questions? Public comment. Any public comment? Seeing none. Madam chair, I move to approve the CWC Bosey's mill request
163of 0.15 mills as present. Is there a second? Second. Any more discussion, Madam Chair? Yes. Um, would it be wise that we go talk to Western Wyoming and see what they could offer us? I mean, CWC, we have no representation on their board of trustees. They're taking our tax dollars. Um, they're basically going to tell us what they can provide us. um that's always just sat with me wrong that we've and our community has funded two steps to the tune of what seven and a half million I think it's somewhere in there over the last five or six years and we don't have any representation on the board they just tell us what they'll do um but I think we all um I don't know I have that whole taxation without representation problem. Um, Gillette,
164a couple years ago, community stood up and said enough of this with Sheridan and voted to form their own community college district. And um, and then they can have their own taxing authority and provide their own campus. So, I'm going to I'll go I'll go one with this 0.15, but I want to have a bigger conversation. Yeah. Uh, Madam Chair, on a somewhat different note with Trusty Scarlet, but picking up on what Trusty Gry said is is that, you know, I I think we have to have a a discussion with the board about what we want to accomplish. Um, and what Trusty me said because I would love to see programs set up for kids that aren't on that college track and things like that that we don't provide if we don't provide them. and
165the remedial stuff. I think we have an obligation to do that if we have kids that can't do or aren't where they need to be. But earning credits towards college classes, we're paying for it. I I think that I would like to spend more time with all of you discussing that. And then I think that that leads into what Trusty Scarlet's saying at that point. Once we have some if I at least for me if I have an idea of what we're trying to accomplish then that makes that discussion much easier uh for me to say to them yeah or no you know or look somewhere else chair trusty I I would be Dr. Chapman, I would be really curious to know with the programs that um Trusty Gingry mentioned where it's our teachers teaching
166the students, how that impacts us financially with being able to reach our financial goals for for the district. Um does that make an impact to where if city CWC is paying for it or are we paying for it? I mean, what's the financial impact? And then I think it would also tie into everything that's been said here as well. So because I would hate to go cut a program where um somebody might be earning a college credit, but it somebody might use that college credit, but somebody might not use that college credit. We don't know where somebody's going to go in the future. So it I think we just need more I would need more information to help make that decision um to be thoughtful about it. Thank you, Madam Chair. First, just to Trusty
167Scarlet's point about Wyoming, um they do have a new dean. She's wonderful. Um and she gets it. I mean, we've had some really good conversations. Uh and she's really trying to figure out how to to work differently with us. Um and we actually drove over to Riverton. um Reed and me and um Jennifer Zone. Oh, Jennifer, that's Jennifer. And and they have two board members that are great. Paula Hunker and um Craig Tolman. Craig Tolman. Two great people. Um and and we went and sat there in Riverton and talked to them in Riverton and um uh I I think they get what our issues are. Um, I I I love the concurrent program. I I didn't want to diminish that. And and I think the dual program will be good. I'm just saying we need
168to have a conversation before we start spending a bunch of money. Is this good or not? And then that third one, Bridges, sounds like a great program. Um, but we need to know more about it because they're going from 30,000, which I was comfortable with, to a bigger number, and now I'm like, I'm not understanding why this got to such a bigger number. Um and so I I totally understand your western Wyoming. I I there was years ago that I used to say this say that a lot. Yeah, Madam Chairman, just community college boards are elected boards within the community college district, right? Kind of like we are for Ton County School District Board. So maybe they need to expand their district so we can vote in. The only problem with them expanding then we
169have to pay the the mills. It's the trade. Um, all right. We have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I oppose. I. Motion carries. All right. Consideration of Hot Springs Early Childhood Boseies.1 mil levy request. Thank you. um trustees, this supports our um early childhood um programming and it is the same.1 mil levy request as we've had in the past. Um and I'd be happy to answer any follow-up questions. M is more a question to you because you're the one who sits on that. Yes. When we're paying this, we're primarily paying the administrative cost and and Hot Springs County does that for us. The actual cost of Cubs and Grizzlies is us and the parents going for that, right? So, this is a pass through and then that comes and
170that helps support the early childhood program within the district, but it also helps support um the program that goes and sort of bridges the early childhood programs in the community to the kindergarten. for instance, um to well today um the two kindergarten teachers from Wilson came to uh the preschool where I work and observe the kids um and then the kids went back to Wilson and toured the school and that's all sort of part of this program. And then tomorrow night there is a um joint meeting between um kindergartener uh teachers and early childhood providers within the community um to come talk about um a document that the early childhood um or that the kindergarten teachers came up with about kindergarten readiness. And so it's a discussion about that and what what the preschool teachers
171see and and that kind of stuff. And so those kinds of programs and the portion of Alex's salary goes to to do being that liaison out. So it's it's a both end kind of thing. But it's it's very exciting. And I want to say that on that since I'm here, uh on that document, it says one of the really important things is attendance. And I when I got that cuz I was supposed to read it before I come to the program tomorrow night and I emailed Alex back and I was like that's excellent because if we can get that ingrained really early maybe we can move and get you know better you know consistent attendance you know ongoing throughout all years. I appreciated that from the school boards. Madame Chair, um Kristen, how much is
1720.1 millage about? Uh this year it's 490,000. Next year it'll be about 387,000. Um and between that and the tuition it does support um cups and als discussions public comment do have a motion. [Music] Madam Chair, I move to approve the Hot Springs Early Childhood Bosey's 0.1 mil levy request as presented. Second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. All right. Uh, now we have the consented written agenda. Can we do it? Sure. Madam Chairman, I move the consent agenda. Item number one, approval of staffing considerations and reports. Number two, approval of check register. Number three, approval of the executive session meetings of April 16, 2025. Four, approval of the minutes of April 16th, 2025 regular meeting. Five, approval of TCSD number one recreation district advisory committee meeting minutes from
173April 23rd, 2025. Six, approval of minutes of April 28th, 2025 special meeting executive session. Seven, approval of minutes of May 13, 2025 special meeting executive session. Eight, approval of minutes of May 14th, 2025 special meeting executive session. Nine, approval of final site website 3-year renewal. 10, approval of CAT LLC purchase order. 11, approval of Discovery Education Dreambox purchase order. 12. Approval of pro finish painting purchase order for exterior painting of at Alta Elementary School. 13. Approval of diamond assets approval of sale of current devices. 14. Approval of Rodac contract for phase three of four regarding roof of Davy Jackson Elementary School. 15. Approval of board. 16. Approval of the consent agenda. Is there a second? Second. Um, any discussion? All in favor? I posted. Motion carries. All right. Uh, communications to to the board. Written
174communications to the board. Uh, there is a list up on the screen. Um, all letters have been reviewed by board members. Um, and thank you to the public who has reached out to give us their perspective. Uh, any communications from the board? Just a question and maybe it's to the super um talking to Andrea earlier having some difficulty with the agenda platform, but I heard that there's a I heard there's some program over in Congress County we might be able to borrow or use or something. So, um, thank you for the question. Um, Andrea is a saint. Um, and I don't know how she has been able to manage this um because it has been a total disaster. Um so board docs notified the school districts um that last summer that they were moving to
175community and basically forced us all to go into community and it is just frankly not ready for prime time and um and I mean it's it's really been and first I thought it was great and then it just has fallen apart um and I think they're struggling trying to figure it out. We have um been on the phone. Andrea has literally spent hours um fixing what they do wrong and then trying to help them fix it and they can't. And so we've been on the phone with them a lot. They are not charging us. They understand our frustration. Um so we're basically beta testing for them and we're we're not being charged. Sounds like my point of sales system. I I know. I It's been It's really been difficult. So, you're not the only person
176that's struggling with it. And um we have looked at several two other systems and um Symboly is um what we're recommending that we move with next year. Um it will be because you all are super users of the previous board docs that worked. it won't be difficult for you at all. It's much easier on the on the side for Andrea to work with. It also has some really cool features that I think the board will really appreciate, especially in terms of board policies. So, when there's a draft board policy, just like you can do public comment on any rules or legislation and that kind of thing, it'll be able to collect that information. And so, I think that's a really great feature. Um, so it's going to be our recommendation that we move with them.
177We will um submit that request before June 30th because if you submit by June 30th, you get three months free. So, I'm going to work this system as long as we possibly can, but the cost is the same as um what we should be spending with um community. And um we will pay like $3,500 something for them to migrate all of our data that's currently housed in Bordox going back as far as possible because we do value that historical document repository. So they will migrate that all for us. Um, so we will be taking care that'll be Andrea's biggest task the next couple of weeks um because we recognize it's just not suitable um and it's not meeting our expectations. I apologize for um so many I I mean for me I would have thought
178it was a user error um but Andrea is so good. She knew it wasn't her user error and it was a system error. So, I apologize for those of us that thought it was us. It isn't us. It really is the system. Um, and I think we should have Andrea is just really been a saint and suffered through. Um, but we're this is going to be a much better move for the school district. And it's also nice to know that we're not the only district that's really frustrated, but most districts have just sort of been limping along. Um, so I appreciate Andre being proactive and saying I can't do this [Laughter] anymore. Any other anything else from the board? Discussion of future agenda items, scheduling and topics. I um mentioned this to I think uh
179Dr. crisp the other day, but I thought um if we're thinking about educational moments, maybe um discussing um sort of the shift in um liter teaching of literacy in the elementary level and associated with the reading wars because it comes up. Dave. Madam Chair, some months ago I asked for more information about what the middle school is doing. I've heard some discontent around in the community. Um, and we never really talked to that. So I would like to have some discussion about what the middle school is up to about uh more specific grade inflation. um oh whether the kids are getting well educated there. You know, there's been allegations of that that I've heard in the community. So, I'd like to learn more about that. Okay. All right. Review of meeting. Um we made it
180through Drew. We did. Madam Chair, I I I want to say thank you to the parents who came and spoke about regarding u the legislation that was passed that we are trying to figure out how best to navigate. Um myself as a parent terrifies me. Um, and it it's something that we all have to to work through and figure out what the best and and it's not just for the students, it's also staff, every individual who is in that building. And um I I care about everyone that's in there. And um I know that our community can find a solution and come to an agreement on it. um and with the ideas brought forth um I don't really know how to put um action on those but please do write your letter to the board
181so we can really see what your suggestions are so the entire board can um because Stephan made the comment I I truly appreciate the parents that came in um we are all working extremely hard to provide the safest environment we can given the legislation. Um what I would hope is and this is not any negative comments about anybody else but stay in public school. Okay. We um are going to do everything we can to make sure that um the environment here is one that's inclusive and allows everybody to be here and still can protect people's rights and privileges. But the number one in my mind thing that we have to do is provide a safe environment. And I think this board tonight has worked really hard to do that. Um as well as Dr. Chapman
182and Sarah Van Dendran and we are all working very hard to present and and come up with policies and ways to deal with this issue as as best we can. So I really appreciate it. Love to hear your guys' ideas as well. I don't I we clearly don't have the market cornered on on ideas. So please send them to us so we can look at them. Um but we're going to do everything. I know at least I as a father of three daughters um it keeps me up thinking about this but don't leave stay here. All right with that do we have a motion to adjourn? Trusty Doran. Trusty Dornan. Do we have a motion to adjourn? Can you hear me? Yeah. I I move to adjourn. All favor. Feel better. Feel better. Better. See
183you later. See you later. Drive.