001mr rossi is absent miss fitzgerald yes ms disler mr haydem mr cirillo miss mamo and mr lamontagne here okay okay minutes from august 16th i have a motion to accept them please discussion changes all those in favor anyone opposed mr de stefano would you be kind enough to give us a cash balance report please sure cash balance report as of august 23 2022 the account balance on august 8th was 4 million 66 355 spot 35. we had deposits from august 9th to august 23rd of 707 288 spot 33. on august 9th we transferred out 2 million dollars to the mmdt account uh we had less payroll on august 18th of 460 406 spot 34 and warrant number three on august 16th 146 spot 88 leaves us with a book balance on august 23rd 2022 of
002670 090 spot 46 and a corresponding bank balance on the same day of 3 million thirty eight thousand nine twenty two spot fifty six in our mmdt account our account balance on august eighth was six million eight forty one six oh six spot thirty two uh the transfer of the 2 million dollars from the main operating account leaves us with an mmdt balance on august 23rd 2022 of 841 606 spot 32 and a total operating cash balance of 9 million 511 696 spot 78. the chair appreciate a motion to accept the cash balance report as presented supported discussion mrs fitzgerald yes once again i just want to commend the fact that we are able to transfer two million dollars in but um do we usually list any interest separately and have we received interest since
003our last meeting uh yes we have uh received interest so uh we'll make sure that we'll uh we get that on the following reports thank you and the and the interest as obviously with the rates going up um the the interest income earned on the mmdt account is much higher than it was you know recently that's why it'd be great to see it listed separately just so i can feel happy about it thank you anything further all those in favor anyone opposed okay there's a handout for the consolidated cash reconciliation report uh revolving fund report is in your packet and budget report are there any uh information yes mrs fitzgerald i just want to say a thank you for getting the um the accounts printed in their carryover balance from last year it was very
004nice to see all that money anything further okay communications donations i see none articles it's not listed here because i think it came in afterwards i don't know was it sunday's paper was the uh article on the uh after doc program i don't know if anybody got a chance to see it but if you if uh if you get a chance you really should pull it up on the eagle tribune and read it it was a very nice article about the young man from the end of her and also about glts it really really was nice so if you get a chance to read it you should uh public participation scene then superintendent evaluation timeline john put together a timeline for my evaluation so that it'll be easier for us to ensure that we meet
005these uh deadlines on the timeline and get clarity to the process for the evaluation um and so that by the end of the school year we have everything complete and able to submit the final results to the department of ed by july 1st it starts with the self-assessment which will be on september 27 analysis goal setting and plan development october 11 2022 plan implementation and collection of evidence throughout the school year formative assessment evaluation on march summative evaluation on may 9 2023 submit once we've done that all evaluations will be submitted to the chair or designee by may 21st 23rd 2023 and the district committee will vote on the final evaluation on june 6 2022 which is the second last meeting of the school year mr show yes other than um changing those last two
006dates the additional dates to 2023 um oh yeah i'm very comfortable with the timeline um i like the fact that um we're submitting it in may so that then we can do a final vote two weeks later i just think that it's a workable timeline and i'm happy to have it in front of me zoella did you have a question i'm sorry oh just point it she beat you she beats most people don't feel bad anybody else yes sir frank are we setting his goals uh within the next two in the next meeting uh i'm not setting his goals at all i don't like the steps he's going to give his goals right but the the um the standards which we are supposed to assign he is going to give us his goals and then
007we're going to approve them on if they're there's something we want if there's something we want to approve his goals are separate from the standards so uh um when i do the self-assessment i can review the standards that we'll be um working with for the school year before and then uh october 11th i can present um which standards and the goals that fall within the standard set will be part of my plan anything further i think it's and i think on step two frank is when when if the committee has specific goals that they want me to work on would be presented at that time as well anything further [Music] okay september calendar in the packet do you have any comments on that john or no just just that wanted to give you enough each
008month we'll give you an update on anything that's uh happening in the school on that particular month so this being the first one in september uh so you'll see that at the first meeting that we have in any particular month okay uh frank was that giving out the last of me i think you received at the end of last school year before the last meeting of the mighty either been the last or second last meeting well i can get a copy to everybody again next meeting or can uh email it to you if you want if you'd like tomorrow so just so in case anyone doesn't have it okay we'll do i'll do that we'll have i'll have sue send it to you tomorrow could we also ensure that the calendar is also functioning on
009the website it just doesn't seem to ever be updated or properly functioning yes uh so we i have cassandra actually as we speak is working on the web on our website um and you'll see a lot of updates and changes over the next couple of weeks that she'll make sure that we we're trying to get it back to up to date on each each area of the website and different staff members who have responsibilities for the information we'll be working closely with her to ensure that that information is put on the website in a timely way and then any of our social networks that we have any information that needs to align with that will also be done okay john uh update the committee on the district on the admissions please so you have a
010copy of our admissions uh numbers from each of our communities in each of the community schools as of august 24 2022 you'll notice some wherever there were discrepancies or changes from a particular school such if you look at we have a student coming from the mars grammar school but now lives in lawrence so uh if you see situations like that we i asked brenda if she put the address down so we know why somebody from methuen is listed under lawrence to help give us better clarity on that so you look at the very bottom you'll see all the different schools that are out of district where we have students coming from but they now live in lawrence and we have excuse me i'm sorry john excuse me mrs mrs fitzgerald yes um i guess i'd
011just rather see over in the far left column it says enrolled but then on the right column it says applicants and we know we had i believe 16 almost 1700 students apply so where it says applicants it probably should be changed to enrolled students and maybe then another column that would show us how many applicants from each of those schools sure we can we can update the applicant list so what you're looking at there really is the enrolled students yeah there was far more applicants so we can adjust the format in which we present it to you so we have as of august 24th we had 438 students i believe we have about 440 at this time we've taken in a couple more since then and are still looking at a few more reviews so
012we will probably be a little over 4 40 at the start of school we typically have some that may not show up on that first day or we may have some that may come in for a few days and leave so then we'll again uh there may be an opportunity where we may take a few more students again to fill those slots so we stay at about 440. any questions excuse me any questions for the superintendent i believe it's somewhere around thousand five hundred and fifty but i'll get to the exact number uh so that you know exactly but it's a little bit under sixteen hundred welcome frank are these just the freshmen these are just freshmen yes anything further yo yes john sorry i'll have um we'll send you the uh 10th graders because
013it's not on this report we did take in uh i think i'm not sure somewhere somewhere under 20 10th grade students so i'll get you that list as well i'll ask we'll email that to you also and i think we might have taken in two 11th graders anything further john along with that could you uh put these the size of each grade sure how many of each christmas okay uh john new higher demographics please um we had a request to provide the committee with the demographics of our new hires this year so what you have there is a report in front of you that lists uh the name of the applicant uh if they were a diverse candidate uh and what department they will be uh working in so on the second page it gives
014you a final analysis where we have we had 39 total new hires as of well as of the end of last week i believe and then so we had 39 new hires 20 total were diverse new hires which gave us a 51 of new hires are diverse um 18 out of the 39 hires were teachers eight out of the 18 teachers were diverse teachers 44 which is 44 percent of the new hires of teachers were diverse so we continue to try to implement strategies to continue to improve those numbers and i think they're significantly better than they were last year and we still have a i think a couple more positions where we're trying to fill we have two openings one in it the shop it uh informational technology and one in biotechnology we've done
015some strategies in order to open school with both those positioned open but we hope to fill them soon i think we have one applicant in it if someone told me the other day so we are still working in trying to find applicants for those positions [Music] anything further okay thank you in your packet organizational chat questions or comments mrs fitzgerald hold on one sec um i just had a general comment under our maintenance supervisor title does not match up with the position that's listed tonight so should that position be approved i would want it to reflect that way on the um organizational chart are you clear with that john yeah so it's funny you say that because just before the meeting i was meeting with susan and we noticed that that was the wrong title
016on there so we will change that title so that's director of facilities it should be director of facilities yep in my other life i was yeah we can't catch up we can't get anything by you mrs fitzgerald are you willing to make a uh a motion to accept oh no not that one i'm sorry we don't accept that pardon me moving on to the rfp for the phase four field so the uh state's four field which is that field far uh beyond this uh softball field that we had uh filled in the contractor who did all our work donated all that fill and we've filled all that it's been filled in pretty much all the way except for a small section can't be filled because we need a retaining wall and so um we were
017hoping to do it without a retaining wall but they didn't feel that one that we'd get the length we want on the field and two that we would get a lot of erosion on the field if we didn't put a retaining wall there so we need to put out an to have someone in constructing that retaining wall which is a large wall it's about 20 feet high and about 80 feet long and and then they can bring in the fill and bring in the loom and finish up the field but we need to put out an rfp in order to do that we have eight hundred thousand dollars or i think approximately eight hundred thousand the last time i looked in our field budget that we haven't spent yet and we also have over 500
018000 in our [Music] budget for rentals but we expect this cost to be well we we have to also put the loom down and seed so we're probably looking between everything uh probably a little over a hundred thousand to finish all that up to make that field playable marilyn yes so you're saying that that retaining wall can be built plus the seating and everything for a hundred thousand the seating uh we expect that to be a little over a hundred thousand dollars to build the retaining wall um the material itself is about 40 000 and then we need to have uh the fill brought in and well the heat that that part of it's donated so then we need to pay for some loom and seating we're gonna uh the we can i asked them
019to give us a price also on uh if we were to irrigate it but if for some reason we thought it came in at a good price i'd bring it back to the committee vivian um i'm hoping as a committee that we come to an agreement um to ensure some consistency in order to approve any rfps going forward um out of curiosity i'm not seeing anything attached so regardless if it's only one bid that was submitted are we not is it not required to there's no no to approve an rfp to go out okay it's the beginning okay no but maybe i'm not trying to confuse you it's the beginning stages of it oh okay i'm thinking we're here to approve of an rfp okay no no it's just to allow to put one together
020well my question still stands so going forward when we're going to approve uh a bid regardless if it's just one bid or multiple bids are we going to see those bids attached regardless if it's just one that was submitted you'll get all the bids that are submitted okay yep just for clarification we would have you would have to come back where we could actually read the rfp to approve it so that would be step number two we're just approving um john and rob or whatever writing up what we're looking for in a bid so every step of the way would be able to am i correct in saying that john yes so i will meet with the engineer to determine what should be in the rfp so um right now i know that we in
021order for us to move forward to finish the field we have to have that retaining wall and uh i'm asking him also to put into that rfp uh uh fini bringing in some loom and the work that needs to be done to do this uh uh the seating and then also if he would uh give me a a kind of a idea of what it might cost if we were to put an irrigation system in it if it's too expensive then we would not i wouldn't put that in the rfp just unless i brought it to committee first mrs fisto yes my feeling is that we have spent millions on upgrading our fields and this would be the last step to make them even better and bigger so i certainly would want to go ahead
022with the rfp but is it possible to have an rfp looking for two different prices one that would be just the retaining wall and the loam and seating and everything and then a second one that would be the addition of the irrigation system so if it were workable you wouldn't have to come back to us or is that not allowed to have two different things in the same rfp i can have them do an rfp with everything in it and then we could um pull pull the uh not do certain portions of it if we decided we didn't want to do certain portions of it if it came in higher than what we could then eliminate aspects of the rfp hey uh frank um i'm kind of confused when because rfp is to look which
023is will be the cheaper one of the all the bits that come in so marilyn wants to separate one portion to have two separate rfp which is probably a good idea but it sounds like to me do we have somebody in mind that we're really looking to give this because then that's not an rfp that's awarding somebody or something already this this rfp um the contractor that donated the soil um he donated that so he'll put in the rest of the fill once the walls put up moving anything beyond that he would have to bid on if he was interested in doing the work as it would be open to anybody to bid on the part that he wouldn't be bidding on but he can't finish putting in the fill until the the wall is
024built so um but he's willing to if he doesn't get the if he doesn't get the bid then he has no problem with bringing in the rest of the fill he committed to that okay anything further okay she'll accept the motion on the rfp for the i'll move the recommendation of the superintendent for an rfp for stage four of our field project for a second discussion all those in favor say leo oh i'm sorry i didn't i didn't see you i'm sorry that's okay leo um actually i'm moving my hand late so we're voting on the rfp process now without the whole thing written before us yeah you'll see the rfp before you vote you know you're just voting for to allow to get it written to prove that i can go ahead and get
025it written and then you'll see it before it goes out to to approve the rfe rfp excel itself when you're fine and comfortable with what's going out there then we'll put it out later all those in favor anyone opposed okay thank you uh principles principles report principal zielinski yes good evening i just wanted to share a few things in terms of summer program programming some work that staff did over the summer to prepare for school year 2022-23 and just briefly talk about our opening professional development and our opening of school so this summer we had programming for 135 students we had 75 to depending on the day 75 to 90 freshman 101 students but we had 75 consistently attended these are rising 9th graders that came for four weeks for the summer we had an
026english learner program which was four weeks they focused on different language domains each week we had 20 students attend that and our special education services they had 15 students attend a four-week specialized they call it kind of like a specialized week they also focused on different things for the week and our reggie readiness or our credit recovery we had four stu 40 students this summer that um you know made up classes met competencies so they're ready for the next grade so it was busy but i wanted to share that for you we also had as you know we're implementing a new schedule part of our new schedule this year has the win block which is what i need and i'll go through that a little bit as well as the seminar courses so last year
027when we decided to do the schedule and develop these things we we realized that we needed to create all this material but we wanted to make sure that we had our teachers engaged in the work because they're going to be the ones that are implementing it so we posted positions for any staff member to apply to develop seminar courses and also collaborate in kind of be our early adopters for win so as a reminder win is what i need it is going to be fifth period on the academic side it's a shorter class it's 43 minutes we are really going to work on use of data to identify needs of students and place them appropriately students that may need different supports can also get opportunities for we want to expand this for opportunities for enrichment
028as well as just intervention we we know there's also going to be an opportunity for them to really become self-directed learners maybe they want to be in a um you know an online course also we want to get to some personalized learning placement is going to be once you're in a wind block you're not there for the whole year it's really going to be almost like weekly depending on what your schedule says what your needs are maybe you were absent you need to go make up a test maybe you need additional support in a class for mcas so it's a it's it's kind of overwhelming when you think about it but many many schools do it and we had um we have uh our instructional coaches working with the assistant principals to kind of develop
029this uh they're working with our information officer isabel we're using a platform called myflex learning and it's really come together i'm really excited tomorrow all of our staff will be trained on what it is and how they actually will be working as win t you know in teaching the first day for wynn we're calling it win advisory and that is the day where students are going to sit down and self reflect along with their teacher to decide where they need to go for the week so we're super excited about this we also know that this is going to be a great opportunity for our students with disabilities and our english learners to get more personalized learning so that is one we also mentioned a lot the seminar courses and the difference between seminar and when
030when is that strategic support class seminar is a class that we have developed and i say we really the teachers have done it all summer um they are contained they're content based courses so they're not intervention they're actually based on the standards and every quarter all students are going to rotate through english math history and science so they we what our hope is is that these classes will be expanded into future electives within the content area so i just wanted to share as i mentioned we had teams of teachers that did this work they had some training on universally designing the lessons and we had some specific requirements and each grade level has a seminar course and i just want to share some of the some of the courses that they came up with um
031you know it's things that are standards based but it really gives some students a little bit of choice you know a little bit of additional instruction that's targeted so we have some you know they're looking at history through film they're looking at world events spoken poetry um bioethics and facts and fictions of space so we're hoping that our students will really be engaged in these um they're almost like many courses and along the way we'll be collecting feedback not only from staff that have that are delivering them but also from students because we'd like to know from the students what courses they would be interested in kind of expanding into electives i'm so oh yeah go ahead yes so is the seminar which sounds really exciting flipping the page and seeing the descriptions there is
032that like a boost class is it happening once a week how is it scheduled yep it's a seminar is every day um but it's every like so for example um you may have quarter one you'll have the english quarter two you'll have math science and history so they they'll have it um all of the teachers will have all of their students but only a quarter at a time so it's almost like a mini course and um what this what the teachers are really excited about is um some of the the the topics that they that they chose are standards-based but they're also things that they haven't necessarily had a lot of time to really focus on so this really allows for the students to get that experience so i mean some of them i'm really
033excited for it i want to be a student yeah is this effective immediately um that we will be incorporating this or is there uh to be announced date that this will come into effect this is for this school year so all this work this summer was done by all of our all of our staff so we had teacher leaders that facilitated it along with administrators and many many teachers who to develop these courses tomorrow the teachers that developed them will actually be sharing them out through their departments so everyone will be prepared to teach so yes this is effective immediately this is our new schedule and are we reviewing um how successful it is in terms of potentially expanding to more courses that we can add to the seminars yeah that's our plan um we
034want to take it slow and steady we wanted to have this seminar which to me in the schedule is actually a placeholder for future electives it's a placeholder where we can have get back a world language it's a placeholder with maybe one of these classes like the one about bioethics maybe that becomes a science course that's a semester long but this year we're trying we're trying these topics out to see um the engagement and the um you know the rigor level and just to cap it off i just what what really is intriguing to me is the finance and budgeting um because i think it's so important to drill into our youth financial literacy and um i think i speak to many parents and just people in general who have been um trying to advocate
035for for us to get this into the schools um we don't teach this enough so i'm i'm looking forward to finding out more in depth as to each and every uh seminar course as to what it consists of that's great and i can share some additional details as well all of them are going to be unveiled tomorrow to the staff so uh just very quickly some of you were here this morning at our opening we had um it was great to welcome um all of the staff back into the building that's one step closer to welcoming the students back which we're super excited for on thursday and next tuesday the superintendent and i shared some remarks our leadership team also kind of set i just wanted to share this with the um school committee we
036have a road map uh for this year and our road map is really trying to establish purpose share purpose and also these are the steps on the roadmap again we're really trying to focus our work on our school improvement goals the ones we set last year this year they're just an expansion of it part of this work is the development of the schedule which includes the win block it includes the seminar courses um it is also our multi-tier system of support advancing that work our focus this year for sel is diversity belonging equity and inclusion and finally our last goal is assessment and so developing that so this roadmap is what we went over with the staff today is our new schedule we have a professional development plan this year which we're calling the seasons
037of learning we've chunked the um to prep pd into fall winter and spring and we're really trying to provide some additional choice for our staff and we kind of laid that out today and professional collaborate collaboration days are new this year we have seven of them and those seven will be to enhance the work have faculty meeting and we're really going to have a strategic focus on the use of data in the classroom and beyond we we ended our roadmap in sharing our purpose as a leadership team and we had an opportunity for staff to really connect and kind of share their purpose so you can see that this was just some of their thoughts today they did and you know they they actually do it and i thought um it's really just great to
038see it's great to have the teachers in and just to see we have teachers here that are extremely dedicated not only to vocational education um but to give things back and um it was really nice to see vivian sorry i should stop saying one last thing no it's okay um it just dawned on me so if us so our students required to rotate each quarter they have to choose a different um subject or let's just say they want to stick with science are they able to keep it within the science the subject the science all four quarters um that's a great question this year we um they don't need we're just rotating them through because there is only one set course per grade level so there's a grade 9 science course in the future depending
039on how these seminar courses go and the feedback we get from staff and students it could be that students would be able to say instead of taking the bioethics seminar they would take bioethics which we which would be developed as a course so it would be longer periods of time but for this year because it's a really it's a big transition for our staff it's a heavy lift it's exciting but it's new we wanted to go slow so we can really kind of make sure that what we are you know what we're planning is like we want to get the students reaction to it and also get some more feedback and we also had our it was very hot but we uh also shared we had our second annual staff photo um so i wanted
040to share that out of the football field it was hot but it was great frank once again i want to thank everybody that helped to work on this this is a great information and visuals to look at especially with the wind block being brought in in the seminars so i'm going to thank you miss zalinski superintendent and everybody that was involved in this i particularly loved your title roadmap with one saying the start foundation of our road trip this year i think we've been take going on a road trip since covid and we've just been moving forward and doing better than most other school districts so in today's having a conversation with some of the teachers it was good to hear some of their comments um some shop teachers wanted a loving day planning time
041are the teachers coming in brand new and loving the cohesiveness and the core and family feel and some are even loving the soon to be daycare it's great to hear thank you so i want to thank you and everybody that that was involved with them what's that mr fitzgerald i ditto exactly what frank said this last page and kudos to you for putting this together with all that you had to do today and obviously this was done after they had met but every one of these sayings except the fact that adam poros listed i wasn't sure about that but they're inspirational and you and john both this morning talked about your excitement in looking forward to this year as frank said hopefully covet is in the rearview mirror or at least all of the things
042that happen and it's like we not only can be back to what we're supposed to be doing but i feel like we're it's a whole new day this is really inspirational to read all these things thank you frank the only thing and then thank you marilyn the only thing missing from here is the regis thing you had earlier um reggie's and what each letter represented um because it hasn't been finalized yet that would be something that should have been included and i know you guys are still working on it but it would have been a great view thank you anything further sue are you done you're all set yes thank you okay no thank you okay uh reports uh from uh reported committees uh all business let's see just for committee priorities policies section b
043b d a school committee organizational meeting have a motion on that please i move that we approve section b as presented be dna um and i would ask sue was this reviewed with you and your cohort that has been doing all those thank you very much we have a motion to have a second discussion all those in favor anyone opposed new business table matters personnel considerations i see no resignations no leave of absence retirements or appointments superintendent job postings these will require a vote ladies and gentlemen [Music] two job postings this evening the first one is i brought both these the last meeting but i'm going to explain a little more the why it's so important for us to move forward with hiring a comptroller and which is a salary between 80 and 100 000
044dollars this is a new position uh and let me when maria was working for him many times i had suggested to her that we hire a comptroller because it's very difficult to manage all the finances one director of finance to try to manage all the finance particularly when i started 13 years ago our budget was in the 20 million range we're now in the 40 million dollar range so management of our budget has gotten a lot greater with a lot more pieces and responsibilities not just in the day-to-day operation of the school but the work that we do with the department of education the department of revenue has become much more intense and more uh with more regulations and everything that is entailed in managing our our uh finances we have more grants than we
045ever had before so that's more funding to manage and more regulations to ensure that we adhere to right now a lot of the grant work and the managing of the grants and the finances and ensuring that we're doing everything in our grant that we said we would do plus meet all the regulations has been done with joanne overseeing that but has been a daunting task for her to keep up with the kinds of funds that we've been getting in we have more students than ever more programs more staff all of it which means more work for our fine or someone in charge of overseeing not even in terms of managing the finances and and overseeing our staff was working in the business office and we truly do need someone with more expert expertise in accounting
046is someone that has a lot of expertise in accounting works closely with department of revenue to ensure that we're in compliance with all of our financial regulations and policies and protocols and procedures manages all our cl our financial accounts closely uh as of right now um or coming into even as as of last year uh particularly we were one year we're one year behind our financial reports and trying to manage our finance with the department of ed and with our our auditors we've struggled a lot with our auditors last year and continued this year seems like it'll be better so you know trying to manage all our processes that are in place today is a much bigger job to expect one person to oversee that has become very difficult and uh so i would recommend
047to the committee that we consider uh hiring a comptroller um in order to make our business office not only more effective and efficient but safer and secure in terms of overseeing the finances and making sure that we're complying to all the laws and regulations again some of the financing i don't know if you noticed but there has been a change in procurement laws which allows us to push from 50 000 to 100 000 without having to go to a bid process but uh being able to do it through a uh quote process uh so that in itself uh is going to require more closely oversight and i know that joanne has been talking about you know her future next year might be different than it is this year and it would be uh important to
048have someone uh in place to a lot of the work that uh or some of the work that a comptroller does is oversee some of the financial stuff that uh joanne does who's been really challenging having a difficult time managing all that on her own so for those reasons i believe we should consider uh posting for comptroller have a recommendation from the superintendent have a motion on that police do i have a second i'll put a second for the discussion used to hate them i like the point of this i know how much work we put on the girls in the office and the more we put on them the more they do but we definitely have a burnout factor we don't want to keep burning out our people i think this is a good
049uh a good thing for them yeah especially with joanne thinking about uh retiring or moving on or yeah but they're over burdened they're overworked the more we give them the more they do and i think enough's enough we're burning out people thank you yeah i think i think a key thing to really can understand also is that you know for the last few years we've been late with almost every report we sent to the department of revenue and department of uh dsc over the last few years and that's because it's been too much work and responsibility of the finance director to try to keep up with it all so it doesn't look great for us to have late reports all the time it would be awesome if we could get our reports in on time
050and it also prevents more likely that if you're overloaded and you're trying to keep up with everything it gets very difficult um and not making a mistake because you're always it takes very time consuming and it's um and the expertise and the knowledge of a of an accountant is much different than a finance director or many of the people we have in the office now they bring it next and for years and years we always had a controller up until i took this position is when we stopped having controller but before i came on board we always had a controller at the school if you remember um charlie fox had a controller comptroller and then uh his comptroller became the finance director and then he had leon uh and then maria was the first one
051not to have one felt she could do the job without one and did a good job but it was always a challenge to meet the deadlines and and put a lot of pressure and stress on everybody to do a little bit more frank i'm sorry mrs fitzgerald yes i had a couple questions the first one is is this a considered an administrative maps up position or 1707 neither okay we have 21 administrators on that chart and um most systems that have 17 16 1700 students do not have 21 administrators this would make 22 administrators and if those things get out there how do we answer why we need i know why we need the ones we have at least i hope i do but i just um i don't know it makes my stomach upset
052my brain upset to think of adding another administrator so that is question one and you answered it um question two how many of these 1816 excuse me 16 duties right now um a direct would be directly taken away from our finance director in other words how does her load get lightened and which of these are right now either duplications or being done solely by the finance director like i looked at the end-of-year report assisting in that that's kind of a thing that you have to help with the principal helps with everybody helps with and for obvious reasons we haven't had it in on time for the past few years so i just wanted to know what duplication of duties were listed in this job description and then should this pass i guess i would i
053for some reason i don't think the term at least is very professional i would rather have it say under the education um that it would be a minimum of rather than at least it just um doesn't sound as worthy or whatever that's it i think did you read the at least [Music] minimum qualifications it says um in the second or the first sentence um a close related field and at least five years of related experience i would wanted to say a minimum of five years of related experience just terminology frank yeah i should have let maryland go first um [Music] never happened but um and i'm gonna agree with marilyn on the amount of administrators we have but i want to hear from the director of finance actually maryland i don't think your question was
054answered of what was um what was being removed from the director of finance's um responsibilities over to the controller that's one i'm going to echo on that how many people we have in the finance department outside of the um director of finance and a couple of people i know that work there so right now i believe we have four staff members that report to melissa to in the payroll office two in the um joanne's office am i missing one one of them reports to hr yep social report yeah and i think that um i don't i don't necessarily think it's a matter of of taking responsibility certain responsibilities i think whether it be the director of finance or whether it be joann's position that or payroll or any of the positions supporting this person uh
055would take on some of those responsibilities that are that that's part of the part of the necessity of having some of the things taken off each of the members who work in the business office plate now because they have too much on their plate particularly if if we want to have not and there are other safeguards that we may not have in place now that we then can put in place to manage our day-to-day operations and our financial reports uh it's uh it's amazing um the reports that that do go in that it the amount of work that goes into it that would then be shared with the comptroller but this oversight and the final uh responsibility still follows on the director of finance but somebody that's going to assist and ensure you know that
056each and every piece of it is that particular controller may have direct contact with some of the people in the dsc or department of revenue who has the expertise and knowledge about accounting and can talk the language that's so critical when working with those particular departments i think is important it's not so much taking away responsibilities from anybody but supporting these peop other people we have in place now to do their job better and to provide the kind of oversight that's critical and making us more effective more efficient with regards to finance you know in terms of administrators we've grown from 12 about 1200 students to 1700 students in the last 13 years so we have more teachers more administrators in order to be effective we brought we have brought in more administrators and it's
057one of the reasons that has made us a more a better school i believe more success students are are performing at a higher level students are getting better jobs schools is the climate in the environment the facilities every aspect of the building is improved i think in the last few years because of those administrators uh have done a great job in providing the support that's needed for for teachers one of the things that i always say about administrators is when we have professional development and we're implementing new uh strategies and methods and all that it's our administrators need to have need to be able to have every every skill and knowledge that we expect of the teachers to improve and get better at i expect my administrators to have those skills and knowledge that they
058can support the changes and and the things that happen so it takes a strong team and a quality team to make that happen so um and some of these uh the responsibilities say they take on are making a difference in the lives of teachers in order that they can do their job better as well and as goes with a controller it's going to make us a better business department and a safer department in terms of making sure that we are overseeing a 40 almost 45 million dollar budget when you think we have three people overseeing it it's not a lot of people and it's an awful lot of money that we're trying to manage with ver and when you think about it you have your director of finance really responsible for 45 million dollars almost
059all by herself because she in the end as well as myself um has to make sure that uh no laws are broken and that we're you know doing it correctly uh that's a difficult job and an almost impossible job when we see how much we've grown in in over the last few and then particularly in the last two or three years i think we've up almost over 10 million dollars in our budget so there's been a all of a sudden a quick jump in finances because of the amount of students we've taken in more students does mean more work and more responsibilities across the board including our finances i will agree with you so are we looking at promoting somebody into this position are we looking to hire an extra body for this position we
060would be looking to hire a new staff member for this position it doesn't mean that someone in the in the school couldn't apply but if they did we'd have to fill their position okay thank you vivian um considering pretty much what you have mentioned superintendent um regarding how reports have been submitted late um i'm just curious as to where was this urgency when maria was in position um if this is something that has been an issue for quite some time um we as a school have been uh managing millions millions of dollars so um i'm just curious as to like why didn't we hire someone like what justification do we have in not hiring someone for this position years prior um and i'm not sure if it's a misunderstanding or i didn't get to hear
061what was what would be the changes in our current um director of finance essential functions like how what are the changes on her essential functions considering this new position so um well when marie since when murray was with us i uh particularly last couple of years went to her and told her i believed we needed comptroller that there was too much on her plate that we're always getting reports in late i didn't come running to the committee saying well we're always getting reports in late but if the fact of the matter is we were getting reports in late all the time rarely did we meet a deadline from the department of ed but one of the things you have to know with the department of the department of revenue they always extend the deadline they
062will say all right we'll give you another two weeks or we'll give you another month or you know they continue to try to accommodate us uh but it doesn't it still doesn't make it right it means i i personally feel it's important for us to get things in on time makes us more effective more efficient and ensures that that the department of vet and department of revenue have trust in us i think that's important particularly when you're going for grants or going for other finances that you want you know you want the people within the that are providing the funds to you to trust you and feel so and have confidence in your department and i think you know having that support will make a difference in that um you know when i when i
063talk to jay sullivan who is you know a head of finances for the department of education and uh i can often hear it in his voice when he's telling me well how come you're not you know how come you can't get it on time or you know um how much more time do you need he's frustrated uh and that's that's the truth of the matter um but at the end of the but at the end of the day you know what's most important that it was all honest it was all done you know the finances were done uh there was no uh you know improprieties there was everything was you know uh correctly done and well done it just couldn't get done on purpose on time many times and a lot of safeguards that we
064could put in place uh i think that would ensure that nothing inappropriate would happen could be put in place as well which we're always it's always important to be the safest we can when it comes to that so with with forgot what was your other question i don't think i answered that i didn't know if i misunderstood or i just didn't catch uh what was said and i believe marilyn was the first person to mention regarding what what was duplicated from the director of finance's essential functions considering this new position and their essential functions so basically what i'm trying to say is um does um does our director of finance func essential functions change is there any changes to her duties considering this new position that you would like to put out her duties and
065responsibilities don't change she just has someone to support and help her meet those responsibilities and in the case of an accountant have some expertise that she may not have um just because the nature of the position and the experience and background that a accountant brings to the table accountant would be able to communicate uh more closely with our uh auditors because auditors are all accountants for the most part so the kind of uh people that do your auditing are the kind of uh it's kind of what an accountant has some expertise in that to ensure that we're going to meet all the expectations that they would have looking there'd be another pair of eyes uh basically auditing day to day making sure our finances are correct and right uh so that when our auditors come
066in we're less likely to have any errors or when they bring back the report that we don't have any findings that we have to [Music] fix that trippy at the moment yeah i was just looking at the chart um trying to get some kind of clarity understanding as to where so they would be under the green the the blocks of green if that was a position to be approved they would be reporting directly to the director of finance which are yellow blocks yes what's that i don't even think director of finance yes oh my my apologies director finance okay so then the comptroller would be in yellow no right the comptroller would be in gray as well okay i was just looking at all the admin positions that's the reason why i'm asking i'm all
067set excuse me frank for one second uh john this wouldn't be a non-rep position being a controller i think this would be a non-rep position okay i'm i'm sorry sue okay so it wouldn't be it wouldn't be in the administrator's window okay no this would not be an administrator's union frank um john i think you went a long way around to say that this is just a person that's going to be assisting director finance which would have been just a lot easier to say than everything that you went on saying it which would have cut down the conversation a lot shorter um and then and that department is definitely the most needed department if we are adding another person there because like you said if we are reporting stuff late to the to the department
068of ed it it can affect our funding as well as the irs um so i have no problem approving the the voting for this but it should have just been a lot clearer this is another person that's going to help in that department and it's going to help the director of finance would have been a lot shorter and simpler um i did have one more question but i think um john just it just would have been simpler just saying we're getting another person to assist director of finance and we are aware there was a lot of some certain things that needed to be reported on time that wasn't but also we had what was it a year two years without a person in that position as a as a controller it's been longer than that
069mrs oh the director fine mrs fitzgerald yes um now that i have heard it is not an administrative position and i do not believe it should be i have no problem with it being non-rep i can support it however i know when jerry came in he was brought in for that other set of eyes and he's been a great set of eyes so um and i remember all the reasons why we had a treasurer come on so the only thing i would ask when this is posted that we hold true to what we're saying that we get the master's degree and it says shall have not might have but shall have and that we make sure that as many of these qualifications as have been listed with good reason are fulfilled and even if it
070takes us a little bit of time to find the right person i would like us to hold to what we've said here thank you mr hayden i agree with maryland except for the non-rep this person should be under some type of contract everybody in the past were under a contract yeah but a single contract no yes that person would be under a contract but it would be an individual contract not a union contract they wouldn't be in in the union given the nature of the work and uh and the confidentiality that's so critical in that position they would have to be a non-uh not a union represented represented person oh excuse me mrs fitzgerald yes are our payroll people non-rep or are they in the union because i can't think of a more confidential uh
071group of people than are in payroll if there is some way we can uh figure out how to have these people represented i mean this person excuse me that would be an even better situation but in terms of confidentiality of it i would beg to differ every single thing that happens in the finance department is public record and um versus in payroll which things are far more confidential so i just think there might be some way we could work that out hey did you have a question for you did you have a question yeah you're wrong yeah she says her light's off yeah sorry i have a couple of comments uh one is that i did write in my notes since the beginning of everybody's debate that this position is assisting of the director of
072finance that's what it's that's what it looks like so um to agree with mr cirillo that's what we're supposed to be talking about since the the beginning that um marilyn asked i mean asked the question um i do have a que so i'm going to make another comment before i have i asked a question um in terms of the inconsistency of the requirements um we have been talking about that all along so i would like to see that we have this under control i want us to have a plan to have the requirements of any position on the control in terms of terminology because we should not be every meeting that we are talking about by position talking about why does it set at least five years instead minimum of five years just to have
073that example and i have a question ncp po certification prefer but not required first what is that ncpp certification which i i don't know what it is if anybody knows it's a purchasing certification which i hold so it would be helpful if the comptroller had it but it's not needed because i already have it purchasing certification yes yeah okay but it's not required because an assistant doesn't require purchase and request okay thank you um that's what i have yes thanks anything further okay marilyn you oh i'm sorry uh jerry excuse me yeah just uh a few comments um on this so as the superintendent and uh leo mentioned back um several years ago we did have um a school business administrator in a comptroller so it was leon and gary so for many many years
074um that worked really well and it's for me it not having like a timely audit being done or being behind has reverberations it has consequences like on continuing disclosure and what we're trying to do with our bonds every year so i if you would have asked me and if i had a vote which i don't i understand but this is something that i to have a layer in this position uh in this in this structure makes all the sense in the world to me because i i'm i'm in you know another industry but we do have layers like this with certain subject matter experts that handle this kind of work so um and and so that where we want to ramp up and get back to where sort of where we were i think is
075is a prudent uh smart decision that the committee would make that's i think i do have to agree with the treasurer of being in business i know when i go for financing um right after they say hello they say you know we want all your reporting and they don't want to hear that it's uh you know under extension they want they want all your reporting and they want it now you know what i mean to help them make their decisions so i do have to agree with the treasurer anything further uh frank um so the mcppeo is the massachusetts certified public purchasing office official program and that's for anybody that's doing financial purchasing okay see if i can sort this out maryland made a motion but you did tommy made the motion oh i thought
076you made the motion on this no oh therefore comments uh right okay um mr thank you for the correction mr hayden uh you wish to amend your motion to include mrs fitzgerald's additions or not i like it as it stands but mrs fitzgerald does make some good points so i'd like to amend it to what maryland has okay maryland can you go over those points again so sue can get it into the record please yes that it is not a maps of position that um we hold true when posting the position for requiring a master's degree and changing the at least to minimum of five years okay uh frank you want to uh mend your uh second two uh seconds for um promotion mostly approved okay anything further all those in favor aye and you
077want to pull anyone opposed thank you john excuse me superintendent director of facilities and operation police position with rob retiring in a few days there's a need to post for his position director facilities and operations we redid the posting and made some changes and articulated some of the job responsibilities more clearly and in terms of the qualifications on the contractor's license we said professional license required or have the qualifications to obtain obtain the license so if they meet the qualifications for the license and haven't haven't applied for it we would consider them as well so that's i think the biggest ques one of the biggest questions that was uh concerns that we had in the last uh posting here we have a recommendation from this one second discussion discussion please yes mrs ficho somebody's got
078it sorry oops i'm sorry okay um fastadas i want to thank the superintendent for this is a totally different document and um it it it's phenomenal when you see the essential functions what is required of this person and we have spoken of rob shares forever on how he meets every one of these essential functions every single day and while i know that the next person will have to come up to speed if they ever can reach um his equal but i still feel adamant i'm i'm really happy with this but i still don't like the license i say that we don't hire somebody that does not have that contractor's license if we have in-house candidates and we can hold our breath until they get that certification i don't know but there are people out there
079that already have it and maybe somewhere there is another rob but i really am uncomfortable with the size of our building all if i read every single word in this and i was in awe of all that has to happen every single day to make this building the phenomenal place it is the immaculate place it is and i just feel that that the the fact that we have kind of backed down on having the education part every single s everything says preferred but when it comes to that contractor license they need to pull building permits they need to do all these things i say you know let's get someone who is licensed or get if we have people right here in front of us that just haven't become licensed let's help them get that way
080but um i i just feel it's really really important to have that above all else okay uh zoilo i cannot agree more with modeling actually exactly what i have um question on this whole thing the um have a qualification to obtain license why do we want to hire somebody that has the qualification and then what what entire somebody to have the qualification and why they haven't got the license it's just a little bit tricky there so i i agree with modeling 100 and i would like to hire somebody that already had the license because it makes sense if the person has the requirement the experience it should have the license as well thank you vivian so um i brought our previous agenda because i could have sworn we've this was a position that we previously
081discussed um and here in maryland i feel like it's deja vu so i'm looking at the previous posting that was presented to us and i'm seeing an education and experience section where i believe maryland wanted the word required as opposed to preferred and i see that it was completely taken out just because i see it completely removed so i feel like what marilyn is addressing once again if i'm wrong like i don't know if i'm wrong but i feel like what she's addressing is pretty much what we had mentioned in our last meeting i'm just confused so okay superintendent yeah so the contractor's license does say required uh but then it has after or the qualifications which is basically to give them time if the person's qualified and just needs time to take the test
082and get the license which usually the test is given every month they would have a short window in order to get that license so we i strongly believed that they have the qualifications and would be able to obtain that license the other way to resolve this i think you would like this but they can always they could always we could always use my license if we needed to pull a permit under my license i have the contractor's license for my own background experience it was that if it was a short-term thing that for a month or two when we needed to pull a permit for some purpose or some reason and the person didn't have his license yet or she didn't have their license yet we could utilize my license for any projects in the
083building as well which then i would be responsible to make sure it was done correctly you also pay for it okay i'm sorry vivian no i'm just noticing now with the whole education experience that was lumped into the qualifications now out of curiosity is the word at least which is maryland's favorite favorite word is that an issue in terms of the word at least or having it say minimum i'm not sure if our the person that was holding this position like what was what is actually required or what education he held that it would make it a requirement superintendent referring to the first bullet where it says must have at least five years experience in an educational or institution industrial environment change that from at least to a minimum of five years experience yeah we
084can i mean that's not a problem to change the terminology there change the term to a minimum of five years experience and we can make that change easily that's not a problem at all um anything anything further baby okay who made the motion of that right uh frank are you okay with vivian's corrections i'm sorry can you um tell me your corrections again it was just the under qualifications instead of at least you know five years are you all set with vivian thank you it's about having the qualification to obtain a license it should be a person that has a license so it should require a license okay marilyn you had your hand up for the same thing that i want contractor license or professional trade license required you you all right with them solo
085if the committee is uncomfortable with or have a qualification to obtain a license uh i will strike that in order to move this forward i know a lot of people also and frank excuse me one second and also john two to not just to strike it to that they need a license yeah that's what it says contract a license or professional trade license request sorry misunderstood i'm sorry frank i think people are looking to remove the word preferred it's yeah we won't put that in it's not in there we took it out it already says license a professional trade license required so to have the qualification to obtain or to have a qualification to attend the license that's what we want that removed because that means that somebody can be hired without having the license
086even though it says it's required but it is that sentence says or have the qualification to attain the license so we don't want a person to later have a license we want to be able to hire somebody that already have the license and it's there it says required so that part is good do you got it okay okay but i do know we got it i know a lot of people in that are directors of facilities that don't have it and have been doing a great job for over 15 to 20 years and have the required abilities to get it and have in its bigger school districts but i will concede to zoilers and marilyn's request to add that in okay are you all i'm sorry for you my question was is this a complicated
087license to obtain is it something lengthy um in terms of a lot of experience to obtain the license they don't have to go through some sort of protocol testing yeah just testing yeah they have to go through a written test in order to pass this it's a lengthy test requires a lot of knowledge and understanding and experience code in order to pass this test and get the license so yes it's not an easy license to get i don't know why i'm asking this but um had how do we maintain that sentence there obtaining obtaining it while they're on the job is that something that we would have been required to pay for or they would have paid it out of pocket they would they would be paid out of their own yeah they would be
088required to finance their own uh course if they had to take a course a prep course and then the test itself but someone that doesn't have experience and background uh in the uh in this area uh would not be able to pass the test it takes a lot of experience and knowledge and background in order to take this to take the test so qualifications you know looking at somebody's resume and looking at what they've done for the last 20 years i would be able to tell if they have the qualifications and the knowledge and experience in order to obtain that license but it still means they would have to study like any test they'd have to study and prepare for it and i would recommend anybody that's you know even been doing it for 30
089years to do that before taking the test it's not that easy a test mrs fitzgerald yes i i'm kind of confused where vivian is reading from because under the new um thing that was in our packet i don't see are you reading from the last one can you tell me where you're reading about equivalency okay is that from last time or this time august 30th okay because i can't i don't see where you're telling saying that um that they can get it while they're on the job under qualifications right after the word required required it says or have the qualifications to obtain license so my question was if we were to maintain that sentence there would they have um would we be um obligated to pay for uh these courses and the license and certifications
090on behalf of uh the person that would take on this position or they would have to pay this out of pocket actually doesn't it doesn't say it it doesn't say it out of curiosity had we maintained that sentence there very easy to leave that do there if we were to leave them because the discussion is to remove it [Music] i have a different one so i'm not seeing anything i do not have what vivian august has no i don't have that let me see definition qualifications no i don't have it okay we have two different [Music] contract and things or professional trade license required or have the qualifications to obtain licenses that was changed it must not have got changed oh it was changed to what no no if that's what it is so i'm
091reading it off the here so there's two different things yeah i suggest we start with the pledge of the flag again okay uh all right now we do need to get this do we have right what everybody wants well there's two or three people who want one yes but i was reading from the screen oh okay so everyone has a package now maryland has both right i have both right in front of right correct so okay this is uh mrs fitzgerald yes um i still hold to what i said about the licensure i think we wouldn't hire an electrician who didn't have a license this person is overseeing everything from plumbing electrical and so on and while he doesn't need each of those licenses he needs the overriding one of the building contractors license and
092i feel that anybody even with 30 years experience needs to get that license if i first of all this is a maps of position with a very significant salary attached and i believe that i really don't care what other communities do i do care what we do and the standard that has been set and again by john by rob an expectation of excellence and certainly our present facilities director has delivered that and we'd be looking for the next person to keep us in that same level so i just feel this is one thing that is so important no matter how you know what the resume says someone comes in from the outside and they could say a million things we need to know and john needs to know that wow he has this certification he
093he or she has done this done this done this and if it's an in-house candidate all the better but they need that license in my opinion so frank we need to always care what all the communities do because it also plays in a hand in what we do and john is going to be interviewing the person so he's going to know what they've been are to have done and are capable of doing and if we if we're already removing the thing and we're adding that they need the license so but that also limits us from having a great candidate that can get the license within a short minute amount of time with that said no and and at the end of that day if it's a thing that we looking for they'd have to go
094get it i've had where their executive directors have come to me that this person hasn't been able to get the license within the time we've had to let them go so it's it's a point where we're already adding it so they're gonna get the license but we can't say forget about every other community we are of value to ourselves we're not a valley to ourselves because we serve four different communities um and john knows what he's gonna be looking for to replace and i don't think john is going to go from strollering steak to salisbury steak i mean as much as good as salsa berry steak is it's not going to top sirloin um with that i accept leo vivian's amendment zola's in in maryland's amendment okay uh sue are you all you also are
095hungry i hate to ask this question is everybody else all set yeah mr hayden i gotta say this we hire teachers we hire uh carpenters electricians you name it professional people from the trade excellent people from the trade and we give them three years to get their license we're talking about a couple months for somebody to obtain their license i'd hate to tie the superintendent's hands and have him pass up on a good candidate just because he does not at this time have a license i want the best candidate for the job i think the way it's written i like the way it's written i think as frank says the superintendent will be able to vet this out sorry it depends on which copy you're reading yeah vivian so i'm not opposed to um having
096this person obtain their license uh but at least make it clear as it's clear for teachers that it's within three years then what is the time frame can't wait three years oh no i know it's an example the same way that they have a threshold of when it's required for them then it should be mentioned here that way it's avoiding um it sounds like we're starting all over okay and vivian is uh solid and she wants it um as data day of higher in maryland you wanted it as a day of higher correct am i okay i got that ooh i caught catch on vivid [Music] that it's required um them to obtain it mrs fosho yes i know that there is somewhat of an urgency to do this however i also know because the
097superintendent has told us that mr charest has agreed to stay on until this person is hired and um i don't believe we are all of a sudden not going to have sidewalks shoveled and the ac stopped working um rob is sticking with us until that person is hired just like we need to fill the it position that position might not be filled for months this position might not be filled for months while we wait for a candidate that has their licensure and hopefully that's in the works so i you know if my vote doesn't hold so be it but i just feel that this is such an important part of what we do every person that walked in this building today without exception talked cleanliness the the way this building is kept and it's not
098an accident that that happened and it starts from the top with john superintendent yeah i think the motion is to post the position in terms of the job description i'm happy to put contractor license or professional trade license required and the story will move forward on that then we know everyone's comfortable getting a qualified person if for some reason someone if someone if tomorrow someone came and they were outstanding didn't have the license i would say okay rob's with us two months you got two months to get the license so we can delay the appointment until that person gets delayed if we found the right candidate we could do that and the superintendent can always come back to this committee and adjust this at a later time if he finds out a month from now
099three hopefully a month three weeks from now that it's he's getting no i mean contractor contractor's license is worth some money um you know if uh don't get any ideas john but um if they would uh you know if he finds out that he's not getting the candidates then we can always adjust it at that point you know what i'm saying so we're all set i think we've tied this out all those in favor anyone opposed okay all right uh future gender uh items uh mission policy update john uh m m cash strategies are we gonna take those at a different date september that's in september okay i don't have the date here i'm sorry okay there's no need for an executive session i understand john no just oh i just had up um just
100on the custodials we're gonna uh i have a meeting set for september i think 15th to meet with the custodians to start negotiating their contract i don't know uh usually it's a one meeting thing and it's done it's pretty easy it's usually basically salary and if they have any minor uh requests but usually it goes it's really pretty easy the one thing that i i am going to ask and and if anybody wants to be part of that negotiations that's fine but i one one of the things i'm looking for in this negotiations from that i would like to see happen is we have they have a position that beth evans had last year that was an uh non-rep position basically was rob's did clerical work but did several other things mostly oversaw inventory also
101oversaw purchasing also oversaw helping manage some of the [Music] heac systems so they did more other activities than they did clerical so i would like this position to move into the custodial's union and then we could have all those duties but slash custodial as well in order to fill in sometimes if we ever needed a custodian because sometimes when they're caught up with that doing peels and stuff they could chip in on a particular day if we have a shortage and help out with that so i'd like to put that position in there in their union so that's something i'd be asking for uh in order to give us more flexibility on who we hire and um and i think it would be beneficial to the school that in the next agenda is that what
102you're saying i would be asking them put that in the contract in their contract uh if the oh it's as far as to negotiate it yes negotiations that's the only other than that it's the only language i'd be looking for a change other than you know the finances already done really for the most part it's a position that exists now as a non-rep position i'd like yeah i'd like to move it into there i'd like to move it into there here one one particular position that's not in their union now i prefer to move it into their union to give us more flexibility and how we use a person that's uh giving the ability to allow them to do some custodial work and some other duties that might be beneficial if they were in that
103union anybody have a problem with the superintendent starting the negotiations off with that frank uh yeah we should have had that conversation in executive session because we were going to talk about strategies of what we would want in in a negotiation that's what we should add that conversation so yes uh mr that being said i'd like to be part of that negotiation committee okay we'll have mr hayden anybody else would like to join him no no that's not hand up right okay all right just want to be sure i just want to be just be sure that's all and it's the first time i see maryland staying down can't tell you okay um jill accepted mr who can i make a comment please for future okay i know he missed it i when you said
104new business you wouldn't buy it i didn't throw my bottle at you fast enough okay i'm sorry i didn't see it what do you think it's okay mr superintendent i'd just like to say i'm very happy with all the things that are going on in this building we have 17 or 18 different projects going at the same time we're spreading everybody too thin including yourself i would like the committee to think about holding off on any future projects including aviation and anything else that's coming down the pike until this building is put back together we've had two years worth of covert two years worth of our students that have unfinished lessons unfinished tasks competencies i think we need to slow down and address all our problems we have going right now i know the supply
105line is out of our control i know we've been working everybody to death and again i really like all the things that are happening i just want to get them complete okay so you want to put that in the next agenda please or you know even if we give it two weeks to give time to get things done no we have to put on here i'm going to move him to address it put it on the agenda to address it we'll adjust it to the next meeting okay consider it done okay uh vivian so how are we addressing this uh refraining from future projects yes yeah i don't okay i'm just gonna add a comment to that even though it's in the future agenda items um you had me there mr hatem in regards to
106potentially halting on future projects if it involved with renovating the school or any type of renovation within the school but the aviation program or any other project that deals with outside of the spectrum of the school i i don't see why we would need to halt on us moving forward in a future program um that's not um coming in between the the schedule of the teachers it's not invading the space of the students so um i would i'm open to discussion in terms of what types of project we're taught we're trying to halt and for how long um and this is the reason why we i believe we hire as many people in certain positions to assist and help in order for us to continue the work that we're doing okay yeah no i'm not
107going to discuss it any further this time we will put it on the next agenda and uh we'll beat it to death then okay like seems like everything that we do anything further i know what can i tell you and doing it well doing it well uh she i'll accept the motion to adjourn so move almost in favor anyone post that can i have the date of the next meeting please september 6 13 september 13th if you want to meet here with frank he'll be here on the 6th you