001e e e you e e e you are may4 I would like moment for good afternoon Pete wildor present Melissa Mason here Josie barnhard here Pat Bradford I am here Stephanie cille here H McManus I'm beside Bradford and Stephanie Walker here I'd like to welcome all our visitors here we see some smiling faces and we'll be recognizing them in just a little bit um our next bit of um business is to approve the agenda do I hear such a motion Mr chairman Bradford I move to amend the agenda um I have given you all the language I'd like to add to our agenda under policy language to two policies that you have already seen you have it before you now it'll go up on the screen when we get to that point I think it
002can go in to the policy where we are now um there's some urgency here um in this earlier in this cycle there's been more than one delay and I don't want to wait for it to be SC rescheduled now to probably the June meeting so I move that we add to classroom School building school grounds and bus displays language for policy 7300 and language for policy 3200 is there a second there is a second discussion where does she want it uh under policy not under polic in the policy or on the agenda well probably a little bit both but we're on the agenda under policy in the agenda okay because it's policy consensus so it would have to be policy something else policy underneath that yeah policy for so are we calling 15 a we'll
003call it 15a yes if you like okay any other discussion M Walker I just I I just want to bring up and um that we already had our our agenda review meeting and I I worry that if we keep adding things to the agenda like this at the last minute when I don't think is an emergency situation I feel like it's kind of going against what we've what we've built here as far as our habits of doing meetings Etc so I I just wanted to voice that because I mean I think once we have an agenda review meeting we we have a time span we're supposed to get things to you and then I just I just I'm going to just disent I don't think we should add anything like that the other got M
004crao yes um so I object to having this put in here because number one um having us have to view something and vote on it um is not appropriate when we haven't just seen it just now also if you look at our policy development policy it says that um we are not allowed to vote on a policy that has not been properly noticed so that that isn't happening and then number three the correct protocol for us is to um bring this to the policy committee and Miss Bradford had already brought it to the policy committee at our last policy committee meeting and said that she had some concerns and that wanted to look at policy 7300 and 3200 in conjunction with 5210 and so this is way out of line way out of the protocol
005and um I frankly you know take offense that we as colleagues are disrespected enough that we're going to try and dump something on us again last minute and it also is in violation of several of our policies so I would say that there is not an emergency what's an emergency about you know somebody having something displayed in their classroom um and so I think we should wait and do this at the policy committee meeting okay everything okay M Walker M Walker is everything okay no I'm just my computer okay I thought there was okay all right so we have had discussion uh Miss bu would you please call again this is to add uh under 15a policies 7200 and 3200 for discussion Miss buo would you please call the the role Miss Crill no Miss
006Barnhart yes Mr wbore yes Miss Mason yes Miss Bradford yes Mr mcmanis no ma'am and Miss Walker no okay that does pass four to three so we will add that in any other discussions or any other pleas yes M crille um during our agenda review we decided that we were adding the climate survey for 10 minutes under old business and I don't see it here I would like to make a motion to add um climate survey 10 minutes second that okay we first and second any discussion do we need do we need a first and second we just add it because we approved it last week yeah I mean we just we'll formally do it well it didn't make it to the agenda so now we're forced to do that all right all in favor
007of adding climate discussion under uh you said new business old old business I'm sorry business yeah all in favor pleas signify by saying I I all opposed so I had climate under old business all right and one more thing Mr W um before I make a motion um we had also talked about discussing the new committee and how it's laid out and you had said you were going to put it in the Chairman's report so I was just making sure we were doing that or I would ask to add it yes ma it is thank okay any other discussions if not uh all in favor of approving the amended um agenda please signify by saying I I all opposed no okay that carries 6 to one we will carry on with our invocation which will
008be remote uh that will be given to us by Senior Pastor Michael Mattis of the salt box Church uh additionally we I'm going to read everything so we have it all out in front of us the uh New Hanover High School uh AJ Roc army junor RC Color Guard unit will provide the presentation of colors and is under the direction of Corporal Lance Gaither and first sergeant uh David redwine principal Chris Sutton and the national anthem today will be done by Ashley High School band Ensemble will per uh perform the national anthem under the direction of Robert Parker band teacher Michael Perez principal and um we have Miss Bradford going to lead us in the pledge so if you would please we'll start with our remote invocation heavenly father thank you for the new han
009County Board of Education and father I want to thank you specifically for Pete wildor for Melissa m for Josie Barnhart for Pat Bradford for Stephanie krael for hccmis and for Stephanie Walker and father I would ask that you would give them great wisdom uh on how to lead the New Hanover County school system and all the different ages on how to lead and care for the parents um of the students that are in the new hanare County system I pray that you would give them wisdom on how to guide the administrators the principles and assistant principles on how to lead and care for for the teachers and I pray father that you would give them uh not only wisdom but great tact and tenacity and determination as they do their job uh the ability to
010make tough and difficult decisions and then stand by those decisions father I pray that you would bless each of them I pray for Unity and strength within the board and uh father I thank you for our education system I thank you for the freedoms that we love and enjoy in the United States and I pray your great gra your great blessing on this Gathering and the name of Jesus we pray amen this is Pastor Michael Mattis from Salt boox church that's giving an opening prayer for the school board thank you thanks [Music] all [Music] h [Music] ref Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you thank you you may be seated if
011we could get the members of the ensem and Ensemble and the color guard come back up here and introduce themselves to us please first all right um my name is CJ Branco I am a senior clarinetist at Ashley High School my name is Carl Bernstein I'm a senior clarinetist at Ashley High School my name my name is cheris pitchard and I'm a senior based CL at Ashley High School my name is Jackson Kennedy I am a senior tuba player at Ashley High School my name is Jenna eich and I'm a senior bassoonist at Ashley High School my name is Rob Parker and I want to thank the board for all of the things that you do from mic education at in new h County Schools we really appreciate the time that you spend uh making
012sure that these students have an opportunity to learn more about music and enrich their lives through that join thank you thank you all for being here and now for RC I'm kadad command sergeant major Peña and I'm the left guardy for the colag guard Cadet David I am the Corporal of new Handover High School Bravo Company I'm first sergeant Allen and I'm the first sergeant of the Bravo Company of the Wildcat Battalion I'm second Lieutenant Allan of the Wildcat Battalion and again please join them and a round of applause thank you all for being here thank you thank you we'll carry on now with the approval of the minutes is there a motion I move that we approve the minutes motions and a second any discussion hearing none all in favor please signify by saying
013I I I all opposed passes 70 we'll carry on with our recognitions good evening we have some wonderful recognitions tonight the first up is Jimmy Jordan Jimmy Jordan started volunteering with Science Olympiad more than a decade ago when his grandson said granddaddy I need help building a pasta Tower a retired process supervisor at GE Jimmy loves to Tinker and loves a challenge so he helped him with the pasta tower that year and the pasta Bridge the next and when that grandson entered middle school and wanted to do the flying event the magic really happened Jimmy has been into rubber powered model airplane since 1956 when at the age of 11 he bought himself a model plane and a model plane magazine to go with it but he didn't have an adult to help him so
014he tried to teach himself how to fly it and it took years until one day an older boy in the neighborhood took him aside explained some rudimentary aerodynamics and showed him how it was done Jimmy will tell you that he's not an educated person just because he doesn't have the right credentials but that's just not true he can wax poetic about Newton's laws of physics or the interaction of velocity and acceleration of air to make flight possible and when he's volunteering with students at Murray middle and Ashley high schools throughout every Science Olympiad season he's not only on part ing what he's taught himself over the years but he's guiding them through the scientific method and helping them be exactly the kind of Learners we want them to be curious self-starters willing to experiment and
015admit they don't know something or can't do something yet the operative word be there being yet last month Jimmy Jordan was named the Science Olympiad volunteer of the year for the state of North Carolina for his years of mentorship and leadership in our community and all the way up to the National level we are celebrating the recognition but we are also thanking him he may not have had that adult to help him when he was 11 years old and wanted to learn the science behind flight but he has become that adult for so many of our students and changed their lives for the better because of it congratulations Mr Jordan please come forward to accept your recognition right March 27th was a typical spring night for the New Hanover and Laney varsity baseball teams playing
016a typical rivalry game but at the top of the fifth inning catastrophe struck when the Handover first Bas coach collapsed on the field and went into cardiac arrest three Community Heroes raced to save his life and we are recognizing them tonight Jennifer Jones and Jennifer Foster are Laney baseball parents and registered nurses when they heard screaming they ran to the field kneeled at the coach's side and looked for a pulse there wasn't one together they began CPR while new han County Sheriff Sergeant just stagel who was working contract at the game that night dispatched emergency responders secured the scene sent for an AED and radioed for backup and all of this was happening while dozens of high school players including those who knew and loved that coach stood by helpless in a photo taken on
017the field that day you see the Handover team joined by Laney coaches in a tight Circle over Third Base arms around each other's shoulders heads bent in prayer but we are here today because last week those two parents got to throw the first pitches at a Laney Handover rematch with that coach back on the field we are here today because during this National Nurses Week we get to recognize the selflessness and intuition of two women who modeled for their sons and their teams what it means to be a hero we are here today because our law enforcement partner did what they always do when they're in our schools serve and support us as soon as we need it and we are here today because this event showed that despite our rivalries and our borders We
018Are One community and and we've got each other's backs so thank you to Jennifer Foster Jennifer Jones and Sergeant stagel for the life-saving measures you took that day and for being such an important part of our school Community please come forward to accept your recognition right Eaton Elementary fifth grader Allison o' Kelly learned recently that her artwork was selected to appear in the 2025 North Carolina Farm to school calendar more than 30 600 students from across the state submitted pieces for the contest and Allison was one of just 13 students whose work will be featured each month of the calendar represents a different commodity and Allison chose Dairy with her vibrant piece featuring a splashing glass of milk next to a carton with a pretty fetching dairy cow you can tell from the detail and
019shading that Allison has gotten some excellent instruction from her art teacher Sarah Parson and we hope this Statewide elevation of her work is just the beginning of her artistic Journey though Allison was unable to attend tonight but we want to celebrate her with this recognition and we can't wait to see her work in print congratulations Allison right Battle of the books is a competition where students Flex their literary muscles by reading all of the books on an established list and then competing in a quiz Bowl style tournament to test their knowledge of those books last month the Bradley Creek Elementary team representing eight students and coaching Anette Jansen and Kristen Kelly absolutely dominated at the regional competition in Goldsboro competing against schools from 12 counties in Southeastern North Carolina Bradley Creek took first place including
020scoring 26 points in a single Round And while these are elementary students it's worth noting how rigorous the reading list was just to be part of Battle of the books each of these students read 15 books totaling and I did the math 4,432 pages congratulations to this team on demonstrating a love of literacy and the joy it can bring at any age and for the teamwork and collaboration it took to become champions in the reading Arena a Bradley Creek Battle of the books team please come forward to accept your recognition you all right just before tonight's meeting we announce the 2024 winners of the Board of Education future teachers scholarship the scholarship is funded by our New Hanover County Commissioners and provides $28,000 over four years to each of these students who in turn pledge
021to return to teach in new Haner County Schools they have no doubt already had experiences that led them to this path whether they were volunteering as reading buddies for younger students coaching in their Community Helping their siblings with homework or being mentored by one of our teachers they have realized what they want their future to hold inspiring and empowering Learners holding up a mirror to the potential of others and growing as a learner and an educator throughout a long career in the noblest of professions our board has selected you for this prestigious scholarship because they believe that whatever path you choose in education you'll make a meaningful and lasting impact in our schools so congratulations to Janelle Wells Garner of hogard gwenith Julie Powell of Lany Lyla Sherwood of Laney and Abby Watson of Lany
022high school please come forward [Applause] and we have one um final surprise recognition for our own Dr Charles F who was recently named the 20242 Southeast Regional superintendent of the Year Dr F was chosen by his peers which include superintendents from 12 school districts in the Southeast region since taking on this role in 2020 Dr F has led efforts to increase academic achievement and school performance expand CTE Pathways and other academic opportunities and strengthen business and Community Partnerships the southeast Education Association shared that as a leader in the region he represents the southeast on the ncssa executive board he's been one of the lead superintendents in the work around accountability and school grade reform in the state and he's a strong access a strong Advocate rather for Access and opportunities for all students and by
023the way this year New Hanover County schools also had the Southeast Regional winner for principal of the Year Christian May of Castle Hane Elementary so we are doubly proud of the recognition our leadership is receiving so congratulations Dr [Applause] F thank you all right we're going to carry on after all those congratulations again congratulations let's have one more round of applause for all the wonderful things that going on [Applause] of at this point uh we will start with our We Carry On excuse me with our student voice do the members of student Voice come forward please thank you good evening members of the board and thank you for the opportunity to speak again following the discussions we've been having about the current system of class rank in new Haner County Schools since our last meeting
024we've conducted more interviews compiled data and worked as a team on Solutions and Alternatives we've gotten a lot of comments from members of the community especially students sharing their opinions and experiences with selecting classes based on the way that they hold we believe that this topic is really important and I'm here tonight with two of our other student leaders lilan from new han and Maya from Isaac bear to present some of the work that we've been doing since the last meeting first and foremost after our last board meeting we were emailed by a parent who had done some similar advocacy and wanted to share her story in order to help us Advocate she described how her son had taken band as an extra class and gotten all a but ended up with a lower GPA
025than his brother who took the same classes minus band and got the same grades I know many who were in similar situations by taking an arts class the highest number of points that could go towards your GPA was lower than other core classes or certain electives even if you did extra classes on top of the number required and got straight A's your GPA would be lower than someone who did all the same classes but chose not to do an arts class this parents email gave us insight into a great solution possibly including two gpas on a transcript one only with core classes and one factoring in any electives taken our team is still weighing out pros and cons but we would like to thank this parent for providing with an example one of the most
026important parts of this project has been the number of students we've talked to from our schools from all different backgrounds we feel that it is very important to represent our schools so we wanted to share some direct opinions from those who attend schools in New hver County but maybe aren't on student Voice or don't have the opportunity to speak in front of the board around 70% of students we interviewed say that they have intentionally not chosen to take a class based on the weight it holds and I believe that this statistic is caused for a discussion itself I now want to introduce Lillian who will discuss some of the interviews we've been conducting thank you all again for expressing interest in our initiative this is a subject that many students are concerned about when interviewing
027peers many Express the inequalities and disparities theyve experience with their own GPA and class rank indicating that there is definitely a lot of pressure to take the hardest classes without leaving room for your interests I'm going to read a quote from one Isaac be early college student who is willing to share their thoughts on class rank quote I feel as class rank enforces the pay toplay ideal for example at my school almost every valid Victorian has come from a private school this is because such students were able to take AP courses their freshman and sophomore year furthermore they could afford to pay additional summer classes through UNC Wilmington one thing that is interesting is when I asked my principal to take additional credit hours and they refused on the basis of ensuring fairness across my
028cohort but the game was never fair other students were denied the opport opportunity to take AP classes freshman and sophomore year and or they were not permitted to test out of courses because it was unadvisable I believe the class ring system is far from motivating it prevents students from pursuing courses that interest and challenge them because they are afraid to of the prospect of not doing well enough to retain a certain status end quote at some of the schools in our County some have noticed that students at the top of the class are typically from private middle schools there are also opportunities given to some in middle school that many students hadn't known of that was an option such as taking gym online or even taking High School of classes quote kids without the resources
029will never get never get to have a chance to attempt to become valid dictorian making the playing field very unfair end quote another student said one student from hogard also quoted I used to be super into Arts I took art I did chorus in middle school when I got to high school I wanted to try and be the best I could be which meant dropping electives for harder classes and spending my Summers doing online classes to get ahead sometimes I I regret not exploring my interest more because I feel that High School experience is very stressful conserv rank in GPA not only discouraged me from taking art classes but also stress me out because I can't catch up the to these kids coming from private schools who skipped all the classes their freshman year thank
030you lilan I'm going to speak some of the solutions we discussed in our recent student ambassador team meetings the main problems we see with class rank are that it discourages students from taking lower weighted CTE and arts classes as well as giving advantages to students who attended private middle schools and had more high school class options we like to share some solutions we've looked at and as Molly mentioned earlier the solution of having two separate gpas is just one option that has been implemented in different school systems although not in the state of North Carolina yet one GPA would not factor in CTE arts classes and even possibly summer classes while the other GPA would still factor in everything class rank could be reported with the GPA that doesn't factor in CTE and arts classes
031an additional solution we discussed was the last and honors system which could help close some of the gaps and provide less of a focus on meticulous numbers the Great Schools partnership organization describes how instead of honoring only a handful of students whose performance may be based on relatively small differences in GPA Latin honors could recognize all students whose performance exceeds High academic standards however there are some issues with using the lent honor system based on whether we use the weighted or unweighted GPA in calculating the Latin tier in which students are placed one other option is the solution of eliminating class rank reporting altogether by blacking it out on transcripts or making it optional to report as we discussed this solution with the team we identified it as a solution that fixes the issues with
032class rank most holistically many school citizens have gotten rid of class rank with the College Board reporting that according to a recent report by the National Association for college admissions counseling more than half of all high schools no longer report student rankings furthermore sadore College also reported only 44% of their 2023 class was ranked in high school not reporting class rank encourages colleges to focus on other aspects of the student resume such as their extracurriculars cour work and still examining student grades in GPA without ranking attached so going forward we'd like to open the discussion after this meeting we plan on setting up meetings with the chief academic officer director of curriculum and instruction and the assistant superintendent for student support to discuss further ideas and solutions it's important to mention that while we have
033heard from a good amount of students who welcome alternative solutions to the ranking system there are of course those who think it's a good indicator for colleges to see where a student is at academically one of our next goals is to conduct research on a larger scale which we will be following up with soon I welcome any questions or suggestions from the board at this time board members we have any questions m m MCM I I have a question I have an answer uh hopefully this has been going on for decades and I've been a high school principal since 75 I think it is something that the board who makes the rules needs to discuss why one people transferring in from other schools that wait certain classes of five rather than some schools that transfer
034in waiting a four I remember in one high school situation I had we got approval that you had to be at high school for three out of four years to be even considered to be ranked some schools have stopped ranking I think close to half of the public schools have stopped ranking for that reason alone and so your Merit speaks for itself but I do think the Board needs to discuss it because it's not going away and I hate to see the opportunities for other classes because they're not way to keep kids out of that and vice versa so I I think the board does need to address it at some point Thank you Mr chairman and I'll Echo a little bit what Mr McManus said about the CTE and the arts classes so those
035unweighted classes that students might want to take and offer I think that's something that we absolutely need to consider and when we're discussing this um another thing is the different programs that we have in cooperation with cfcc and different things that we can make sure that we're looking at all the aspects in the different programs that we offer with that um I think it's extremely interesting because we have to look at how to find success for you guys after high school and with a ranking system um at large it's in regards to go to college and so whenever we're able to say clearly that there are other options beyond that um which I know there are I know everybody up here knows that there are um I think taking that into consideration will help us
036with the discussion so thank you guys for bringing it to our attention what else I want to thank you ladies for being up here today and uh great presentation thank you so much and have a good rest of thank you [Applause] uh next we will have our teacher voice uh Christine Sawyer a second grade teacher at Bradley Creek Elementary School will present on behalf of teacher voice Miss Sawyer's area focus is stem good evening you are my name is Christine Sawyer as you said I am a second grade teacher at Bradley Creek Elementary and I'd like to speak with you for just a few minutes about a project that I've been working on for the last two years in February of 2022 I was accepted into the district's emerging leaders program and as part of
037this program participants choose and Implement a pathway project with the support of the founding members of emerging leaders and my mentor in the program Amber Adams I chose to focus on stem which stands for science technology engineering and Mathematics through the lens of diversity and accessibility stem activities help students practice problem solving and critical thinking skills which will help them become successful adults no matter what career they choose to pursue I began by providing my students with opportunities to learn from and about people today in St working today and stem careers specifically those from often underrepresented groups just like many of the students in my classroom and show them that they too could work in a stem field one day this was accomplished by having those in stem careers visit our classroom in person and
038on Zoom teaching students about what they do and how their work literally changes the world these visits helped to broaden my students perspectives on what a scientist or engineer does and what they look like as students often imagine these people in these careers working in labs and wearing a lab coat but those working in stem careers today work in many environments and do things in their jobs that help us every day next I focused on my main goal which was to increase access to stem activities both in my classroom and for students at home I asked myself how I could provide opportunities for all families and students I honed in on my goal showing families what stem was why it was important and how they could complete activities at home with their student and I
039decided the best way to do that was to create a website and video Bank of activities in English and Spanish that families could watch at home and stem with Mrs Sawyer was born I then branded stem with Mrs Sawyer with a logo and created a social media presence website videos teach students about the engineering and design process and show them how to complete specific challenges using materials they already have at home no robots no iPads just recyclable materials and scissors and tape in the video students are presented with a challenge and taught how to create a solution for that challenge by going through the engineering and design process through the process we start by defining the challenge and then students ask themselves what problem they want to solve in the world they imagine what that
040solution might look like make a plan create a prototype build test and refine that prototype and then they iterate the create process as often as needed to build a successful prototype they challenge themselves to take it further make it stronger or taller and finally they share their challenge process and prototype with others each month of the school year I release a new challenge video through my newsletter I create videos using a green screen and compile video and audio components in canva all Challenge videos are available on my website in English and Spanish and can be accessed by students and families at any time my school's parently Aon Maria Elena vuchi translates each video into Spanish for me and I splice in the new audio so that language is not a barrier for any families I
041hope to add Arabic next as that is the next most spoken language by students in our district last June I presented my project in this very room with two of my students to a group of District staff and visitors at that time I had two introductory stem videos and three Challenge videos on my website today I have 10 Challenge videos and number 11 will be a release this week my challenged videos next year will have an additional literacy focus and continue to provide families with challenges that they can complete at home with their student in the fall of 2022 I was nominated for and accepted into the 2022 2025 Master teacher cohort at UNCW this program has allowed me to continue expanding and improving stem with M Sawyer with a lot of help from my
042UNCW faculty partner Dr Angie re Griffin School staff Bradley Creek PTA and family I recently prepared and distributed 400 stem bags for every student at Bradley Creek to take home and complete activities with their families the bags included information about stem a choice board and a bookmark with a QR code linked to my website I'd like to personally thank them or leaders program my previous admin team of Miss Bailey and Dr kathin itis and my current principal Miss Lee for their support I would never have had the courage to pursue an idea so far out of my comfort zone without them what began as a small passion project has become a a Roadbuster County thank you m Walker I I do have a question sorry I'm sorry so first time I just found out about
043this about five days ago so sorry I wasn't sure well you're clearly prepared because I mean I was just looking at your website at the same time I I you probably thought I wasn't looking I was just checking out all your different challenges um what's the next one I see a baby animal habitat May the one for this week is um this month is to build a platform um that can hold weight of some kind so a cup of water or anything at home that you might have um that can that platform can hold and then the one for June um will be to create um a chain reaction machine um based on rub Goldberg's designs he was a cartoonist um he never built any of his own designs but he kind of became synonymous
044with with creating that type of product there's a whole Institute for him and there's a contest every year um and then next year I want to focus on um books in liter in literacy that relate to to stem what I really love is that you use things from home because I'm forever saving the bread tabs or whatever because I feel like you can reuse that stuff for so many things so I like that you're putting that into that that element of design I might have a large amount of stuff in my garage from time to time the 400 bags did deplete my Supply a lot but um I reached out to my nor neighborhood the families at Bradley Creek the other teachers um really helped the custodians every day bring me the paper towel rolls
045and toilet paper rolls when they change them can use them for so much at school so it's very awesome your website's great too thanks M Bart and M graille thank you Mr World War I I was also looking at the videos and I'm excited to go home and do some of these what is the target age for the focus videos an interesting question I I guess I would probably say that the target age would be Elementary School however I I try to word them and and create them in a way that that really it's for anyone so if you're a high school student your approach to that project might be completely different than a fifth grader or even a kindergartener um and and how you think about that process so I I I'm very careful
046because I'm I'm really um I always say like make sure you talk to your grownup before you get the cup of water for the platform so I try to be careful not to say that too much or high schooler might be like I don't know what she's talking about talking to my grownup before I get a cup of water but um I I try to keep the the focus broad so that any student would be able to do that so um in honor of teacher appreciation week I can't tell you how much I appreciate the effort because this is not required this is something that you chose to do to make yourself better and to enhance the education of all of our students and um stem is there you know it's it's out there in
047everything that we do and um I I I love how you're reaching out in on many different ways and in many different languages and um Arabic will be very challenging I'm sure but I appreciate the fact that you do I have some ideas I think I think I know where to go moving forward there's nothing like when a when a student comes in my room in the morning like today and says You Know M I was going to make you a boring card but instead I made you this frog animal habitat so yeah that's great like that kind of gets your teacher heart a little bit you know so and so and also too I wanted to just you know um thank Dr F and his leadership team um for having this program you know
048to allow teachers to I've seen so many great projects that are happening out there and yeah you are such professionals and you're always thinking out of the box and this would have never happened without I mean I stem was a focus and something that I loved I'm a phog graphic designer but this would not have come to fruition in this way without the emergent leaders program yeah and and the principles who support you and support all the teachers out there so yeah they they've been amazing so well thank you very much and thank you for all you do [Applause] we'll now carry out with superintendent report Dr F thank you may 1 was School principal's day um teacher appreciation week is May 6 through the 10th so we're in Teacher Appreciation Week um this month
049is also mental health awareness last Thursday President Biden visited Wilmington to announce infrastructure spending our very own bradle second grade teacher Paris Pew was asked to introduce the president it was a proud moment for our district on the national stage last month we announced our 11 educators of the Year finalist from elementary middle and high school levels as well as our three principal of the Year finalist on Thursday of this week we will honor an educator of the Year from all 45 schools at our annual banquet and announce our winners rightful Elementary celebrated their 100th anniversary in addition to current students and staff we celebrated alongside Alum alumni who had gone to the school there as early as 1950 ctec high school was one of the top 10 schools in the state named for canopy
050project National Database of innovation schools the datab base elevates the schools that are leading the way in culture and vision congratulations CC we celebrated the graduation of 88 seventh graders from the career and leadership development Academy which is a partnership with the Chamber of Commerce next year we will look forward to graduating well over a thousand students as the program will expand to seventh graders across the district at the special Olympic spring games more than 300 athletes competed and 250 volunteers helped out as we cheered them on congratulations to all our first season of Girls flag football wrapped up with the championship game as Absol High School took first place with an undefeated 110 record thank you again to Carolina Panthers for the sponsoring this initiative thank thank you very much thank you very much
051I'm going to be uh next we'll have the board Chairman's report and U I will be repeating some of those uh another busy month CDA 2024 cohorts uh 1 and two graduation with wonderful experience in partnership with the Chamber of Commerce congratulations to all the students faculty and staff as as well as our partners the Chamber of Commerce and all the local businesses involved it's so important to work together with our local businesses and to have their support thanks again to everyone for bringing this wonderful opportunity to our seventh graders and again as Dr fa mentioned we'll be all our seventh graders next year we are looking forward to celebrating the teachers of the year and the principles of the year uh many board members join me in surprise visits to let finalists for the
052teacher years uh be recognized and share with them their and their students as well as their schools teachers of the year as well as principal of the year will be announced this Thursday evening as we just celebrated future teacher scholarships uh it was a very very tough choice for um young ladies Rose the top congratulations to everyone who participated and again uh special congratulations going out to Janelle Gardner gwenneth Powell uh Lyla Sherwood and Abby Watson we look forward to a great future for them uh and and finally as promised our Safety Committee as one board member uh at at one board member suggestion it was shared with Mr Anderson um again that is a overall Safety Committee uh but then it also has subcommittees team one would be Miss Walker and myself uh Team
053two Miss mcmanis Miss Bradford team three Miss crille Miss uh Mason and Miss uh barnhard and again um my hope would be that before the June meeting you would meet with your partner or partners uh Focus areas team one is preventative safety um mental health reporting methods possibly entrance scans safety training and surveys and again my idea is that they would uh gather M Walker and I will gather and probably via phone or maybe in person and talk about other things that may be under that that umbrella uh and then report back to the board in June uh Team two is school based safety that again is Mr mcmanis Miss Bradford some uh things under that topic would be student discipline cell phones possibly bullying safety plan and again others team three again miss kille
054miss Mason Miss Bradford uh Miss Barnhart excuse me um structural external safety Traffic Safety School structure safety locks cameras and other possibilities in that area so again that's a start um and again I would ask for the board members to meet uh discuss their focus areas and then then to bring it back to us in June uh after you've had an opportunity to kind of go through that a little bit M crille the um so the the the order that you listed our name is the first person listed supposed to be the leader of the subcommittee doesn't necessarily need to be I guess that I think that the who calls the meeting then well um I think the three of you could you know I guess it's really up to you I mean that's really
055up to you I think three of you would get together and and and discuss U maybe nominate a a chairperson and do you have a problem if we attend other committee meetings so we can listen in a little bit absolutely not absolutely not absolutely like I say um and then my final uh again is uh to Echo Dr F again a huge shout out to all our teachers for teacher appreciation week so uh big big time and uh big celebration we've had a lot of celebrations today and we want to continue to celebrate um our teachers because they are so valuable at this point we will turn our attention to our audience as we start with our called audience uh and two no thank you Miss Mason uh I will turn it over Miss Mason
056and she will call the names F to hear from you thank you all for being here thank you for participating thank you for carrying enough to um take the time out of your week to to be here so let's start with uh Linda Higgins good evening when my adult children were in school we were in schools where the school board had to convince the whole community on the school budget we all voted and we knew that it would directly affect our taxes in order to get funding for the schools they needed to spell out what they needed and why you on the other hand have a much easier project you only have to meet with the Board of Commissioners and show them how the school board's plan and budget needs support the work that the
057county is doing to grow a healthy Community how the money for special education means the children served will become functional members of the community able to work and not be along term support issue how the AIG program will bring bragging rights to the county how the safe how safe schools throughout the county that have high ratings serve their goals to bring employers tourists who fall in love with the area and all of that to grow the county but you're struggling you're struggling because you have not come together and ironed out your ask your ask is not money it is staff and programs that we need to teach our students money is a number that goes with the ask it is not the purpose it is how we get there they support they will support programs
058that they want to keep and expand please do your job and create your ask go to the Commissioners with a clear transparent argument you need money just like the sheriff department does but you seem to refuse to be transparent and ask for it clearly you need to do it Angie KY Let It Go former board chair Stephanie Adams said that to me four years ago today when referring to victims of sexual assault recently another current board member said that to me Ironically in both scenarios only minutes before that I was standing with the mother of one of the victims who only wishes she could just let it go 11 months is plenty of time to complete the task on the short list of prevention strategies that were outlined for you in the settlement you agreed
059to so let's be clear that it is is this board not the insurance company who controls policies and procedures to do that we won't let it go that at a time when you failed to uphold your word in the agreement of promising to protect children that Dr fa is being allowed to dismantle our family life education program despite the fact that it's dramatically decreased teenage pregnancy rates below the state level provides support in child trafficking cases has increased the health safety and well-being of students rein forces healthy relationships and is the one component of our curriculum that is title non compliant as the settlement requires we also won't just let it go that they are founding members of student voices who gave up their summer to create this project who aren't here today because they
060help what they help to build is so micromanaged by politicians that it isn't anything more than a line on a college application there's nothing authentic about telling students they aren't allowed to address the fact that with less than two days notice their Equity Summit was cancelled and they weren't allowed to address true issues of equity safety and show support for programs such as a family life education program and the profound impact it's had in their schools the school boards never like being held accountable and whether we're allowed to speak to issues of safety Equity sexual assault or authenticity they still exist in our schools and the Seven of you are complacent to the toll that it takes on our children just as you are the LW and on health of the victims of sexual assault
061that's the job that elected officials are paid to do and we certainly will not let that go thank you Miss KY Sandy is Dr Fel do you know the difference between the words can't and won't I ask because you have repeatedly lied to the community and board by saying you can't ask the County Commissioners for more funding the truth is you absolutely can coule months ago Wake County Superintendent Dr Taylor publicly presented a courageous budget to their school board he's requesting an additional $58 million in his proposed budget he outlined the specific needs of the district how additional funds would save current staff positions and how saving those positions would align with their strategic plan his budget carefully explains the why and their proposal is transparent and understandable Dr F why is it that Dr
062Taylor can ask for additional funds but you can't it seems you can but won't won't why won't you advocate for our children and staff why won't you acknowledge how dangerous the current state funding and Staffing allocations are why won't you discuss how rightsizing will cause irreparable harm to our children and district is it because you're afraid of angering Michael Lee I also wonder why our school board has consistently failed to direct you to do the same as Dr Taylor and why our school district chooses an atmosphere of chaos and fear versus Clarity and Trust Dr F it's shameful that you have not shown our community the same respect Dr Taylor has shown his it is shameful that you insist you can't ask for what we need and are willing to let young children carry the
063burden of your failure I'm disgusted that you won't fight for our children our children deserve a courageous bold leader who will protect them not someone who cowardly says he can't if you can't then maybe being a superintendent is not the job for you it's time to stop saying you can't and start doing what your job requires you to do thank you Miss is Janette Kosar it sounds like Miss Mason and Miss Bradford had a productive meeting with the principes last month they talked about having a principal call a parent of five six or seveny old before a decision is made to suspend the child Miss Mason reported that quote principles are already contacting parents and quote they have constant contact with parents Miss Bradford said quote we got a wealth of information from them I
064was convinced that they are doing this this is wonderful news now it needs to be added to policy 4351 why let me make a comparison I was a healthc care provider for 41 years and we had policies policies are a set of standards and expectations that guide the proper way of doing things so let's say you need to have your leg amputated there is a set of policies and procedures that the surgical team follows one of those is to make sure they don't cut off the wrong leg I think that would be reassuring to know that you're not going to wake up with the wrong leg cut off this example may seem traumatic and dramatic but I guess having my K through second grader get suspended would also be traumatic to both the child and
065the parent of our children is asking you to add this crucial sentence to policy 4351 principles will call K1 and second grade parents after the investigation is over and before they make a decision to suspend a student why love your children just at it after the investigation is over because there seems to be confusion about terms like informal hearing the investigation due process and a discussion I don't think you want the surgical team to have just a discussion about which of your legs to cut off adding that one sentence will help maintain the positive relationship that principles and parents have and may reduce the trauma for both parents and young students please add policy 4351 to your May 21st agenda thank you Miss Kar Jan baswell Jan Boswell good evening I'm Jan Boswell and I
066am currently the new han County chapter chair for moms for Liberty and I know several of you because I interviewed you a couple of years ago when you were campaigning for your current seats we are parents and grandparents and concerned citizens that expect all students to receive age appropriate education but we're currently concerned that our K through five children may be indoctrinated by the the way of sneaky propaganda that's in our school curriculums such as wit the wit and wisdom curriculum in regards to curriculums we do not want our children subjected to curriculums that are grounded in Social and emotional learning because with social and emotional learning you always find critical race Theory we don't support curriculums that teach our children anti-American ideology or that they should be ashamed of their country we don't support
067curriculums where our children are taught that the nuclear family is bad or that just going to church is bad we cannot support a school system that focuses on feelings emotions and insecurities in order to form our children into extreme emotional thinkers we want them to be strong critical thinkers imagine if schools put social emotional learning aside and chose curriculum ums that assur that there would be no teaching of negative values negative beliefs and attitudes perhaps our children would achieve top grades and be better prepared for Middle School we will only have further division with cultural and social decline if we surrender to curriculums with social and emotional learning thank you thank you Veronica McLaren Brown policy 2410 is about policy development adoption and review section A of policy 2410 States any board member individual group
068of citizens student or employee May initiate proposals for new policies or changes to existing policies section B States during the discussion of a policy proposal the views of the public parents students and staff will be considered in other words section B tells the school board members to listen up that everyone's voice matters and that everyone voice will be part of the school board discussion of policy proposals so listen up love our children NC proposes adding the following sentence to existing policies 4351 and 4340 principles will call K2 parents after the in investigation is over and before they make a decision to suspend a five six or seveny old at the last policy meeting Miss Mason talked about revising the short-term suspension policy and the phone call she said quote I believe it's already happening I
069think it's just a matter of being transparent with what's already happening Dr fos and Miss Bradford said that principles are already doing it listen up if the phone call is already happening all the principles are already making the call then codify what the principles the experts say that they are doing to ensure transparency consistency and fairness across our elementary schools thank you Miss McLaren Brown your time is thank you Leslie coy good evening I am here tonight to remind you that your position on that dis gives you one responsibility just one keeping our children safe everything else is part of that goal kids can't learn if they don't feel safe those lauded literacy rates test scores whatever won't go up if the kids don't feel safe keeping them safe is directly related to two items
070on the agenda the budget and legal services first staff Cuts safety and schools requires teachers of all levels and subjects counselors social workers custodians office staff everyone lockdown drills don't make kids feel safe more SRO on campus don't make kids feel safe they need real Educators who have the time and resources to know and provide what the kids need let me tell you the story of the purple folder if a child if a t teacher realizes a child needs a break from the classroom they will put a piece of paper in a purple folder and ask the child to take it to the office when the person in the office gets the purple folder they know the child needs a couple of minutes to calm down talk whatever then go back to class but if
071we don't have enough teachers class sizes get so big this kind of simple solution can't happen same thing if we don't have enough office staff or custodians or whoever the children feel comfortable with with and can confide in so tell the County Commissioners we need that $2 million all of it second your legal counsel Are you seriously considering a firm who had an attorney say in court public schools aren't insurers of children's safety broadcast live during the Civil Trial brought by Mike Kelly's victims safety is your primary concern or should should be if it's not then I guess you it is obvious that your purpose on this board is to follow the will of Your Puppet Masters and Destroy public education thank you please curriculum is being introduced by thirdparty influencers with a global agenda
072the schemes of those who promote ungodly alliances and agendas that threaten our kids in public schools are being exposed we need to do the right thing by protecting them against the manipulative influences that exploit divisions and so Discord look at the division created by boys and girls Sports boys and girls bathrooms who would ever thought we needed Title Nine many of you ran on this Focus we won't tolerate uncleanness or mixture with perversion sex is not the focus we want keep the focus on the basics of education do you think instilling dark thoughts and violent ideas won't lead to safety issues many of you ran on this Focus too are you going to bow to corruption or Defiance of truth then you're not prepared for what's to come because the war is here now thank
073you Kelly wheat Rivers hello I'm Reverend Kelly wheat rivers with the unarian Universalist Congregation of Wilmington and the love our children organization I have a second grader in the new hanor County School System my daughter is also a Girl Scout where they learn to respect themselves and others in policy 4300 student Behavior policies it states that quote consequences for unacceptable Behavior will be designed to help a student learn to comply with rules to be respectful to accept responsibility for his or her behavior and to develop self-control these are certainly things that five six and seven-year-olds are working on it also states that quote strategies and consequences will be age and developmentally appropriate if a young child physically injures another child that is a serious problem but I don't understand how suspending a five six or
074seven-year-old from school helps them learn these qualities and life skills during these teachable moments our youngest Learners deserve our help our support and our love through positive behavior and support Alternatives I am grateful to learn that Elementary School principles are calling K through two parents before a decision to suspend a child is made as a parent I would want to get that call I believe the policy committee should add that to the suspension policies at their meeting on May 21st and I respectfully ask that you consider doing so thank you thank you Mark leant hello everyone I'm Dr Mark Levant and I'm a university Professor who teaches human sexuality courses and I train future sexuality Educators I research sexuality education and why we need it in schools I'm also familiar with budgeting and having to
075do budget cuts that not everyone's happy with and so I'm here today to urge the board to consider that not everything in the budget is of equal importance and that some things are much much more important than others in this case the Family Life education program education about sexuality bodies communication and autonomy are incredibly important for people as we grow and getting education early and consistently are proven to prevent sexual assault and child sexual abuse I research sexual assault and I speak to groups of men who have experienced sexual violence they've often experienced these acts of violation when they were children and frequently talk about how they never had the language or the knowledge to understand what was happening and wish they received this education earlier so they know who they could talk to about
076it cutting programs like this from our community's education directly impacts the lives of Youth that will then grow into older adults now almost everyone here has had their experience of poor sexuality education and we produce adults who then don't have good sexuality education and they go on to think things like sexuality education is unimportant or that it can be taught by anyone I'm here as a skilled professional to tell you those are not correct or that believing an incorrect or harmful things about sexuality as they grow up I'm sorry to all of us who have had bad sexuality education our community has failed us thank you Mr Leon your time is up thank you Rafael I am Rafael Toro gimenez I come to bring light I am a retired special education teacher from the state
077of New York and a former Marine officer who was stationed in Camp June back in 1975 I've been happily living in wilington for the last nine years but as a pedagogue and an advocate for public education I am worried about the current state of this institution and where it's heading one particular issue I have is with suspension and policy 4351 as a Content area teacher in a crisis intervention teacher I learned two things manage your class with effective instructions and have complete documentation of students inappropriate behavior by identifying and recording the type of behavior exhibited the frequency and duration of the inappropriate behavior as well as how the behavior was referred to me in addition iclude how I counsel and advised the student and their parents about the infraction but what I really learned was
078that the real culprate to the negative behavior was and is the anti-an when it meets the Nexus the school my recommendation to principles is to afford every opportunity to mediate correct and reintroduce the student back to the classroom armed with these tools to deter future inappropriate behavior and reward them for the positive CH choices they make as the light on the public education still shines I will continue to do what president C asked me to do and once again I'm doing this for my country we must fully fund Public Schools we must be prepared we must prepare each student for their next phase in life we must enhance parent and Community Support we must ensure a safe secure learning environment and we must celebrate the good in public education we are the people who will
079do battle to keep our freedom and provide public education to all especially our children thank you Sasha [Music] Kanan hi I'm Dr Sasha Canon I have a PhD in community health and I'm here to Advocate keeping the Family Life Education Program as it exists today I've taught sex ed to young adults for 10 years I want to give you examples of some very incorrect things that these adults have said to me when they've had little to no sex education before getting to me your body won't let you get pregnant if you're not mentally prepared to be a parent not true if you think you're pregnant you can just take a month's worth of birth control to stop the pregnancy not true and dangerous I didn't realize I was allowed to say no to sex with
080my boyfriend very not true darling and with the flood of misinformation coming in on Tik Tok this will only get worse without quality sex ed to counter it without sex ed we end up with sexually ill-informed adults who can't make educated decisions for themselves which is why research shows that sexed programs are overwhelmingly favorable among parents a survey on North Carolina parents conducted by UNCC Chapel Hill found that 92% want sex to be taught in North Carolina public schools to exemplify this a colleague who is a parent of a new han County 9th grader was outraged to hear of potentially cutting the program saying this program is a point of Pride for this County a recent re uh empirical article from the Journal of adolescent Health reviewed sex ed outcomes over the last three decades
081and found quote when scaffolded across grades sex ed can improve sexual social and emotional health and academic outcomes for young people so please keep this program students need it parents want it and even their academics will be better for it how are youall doing tonight um we have the attorney vote tonight both pointer spru and fingon Smith are hired to work cases by the same insurance company we have coverage with to hire either of them as general counsel would be to create the same problem our district dealt with pertaining to perceived conflicts of interests these two options stand to potentially gain Millions off of their relationships with the insurance companies yet we are supposed to believe their loyalty is to our district we've already lived This Disaster relationship before we already had problems with the
082public records request uh system where it appeared victim Advocate requests were being tabled for extended periods of time we were given incorrect interpretation of Law and policies that magically always worked against victims Advocates at every turn Optics matter and we can completely take away the semblance of impropriety by simply hiring a company who doesn't have that working relationship with our insurance company company I supported the hiring of the current attorney due to the same perceived conflict of interest with the other choices and I support hiring the new firm for the same reason this time so long as we can have supplemental help in all specialized area of Education law like special education which we didn't just we did just sign a contract a super long one with s law fir uh and pointer Sproul show
083of hands how many of you board members knew it was till 2025 when you voted for it um our board has some tough decisions in the near future you know what isn't a tough decision uh whether to investigate the superintendent just like other employees that sounds pretty reasonable everybody else is held to this this standard why not him I feel we should be following the procedure outlined in the superintendent's contract allg against the superintendent are to be turned over to the attorney for investigation that simple every allegation should be taken seriously and looked into the still hasn't happened it's time to fix procedural issues thank you thank you Mr Sutton Alicia oand Deli good evening short-term suspension policy for 4351 talks about pre-suspension rights of the student the policy mentions the informal hearing Dr fa
084calls it due process Mr vou refers to it as okay thank you appreciate Mr roore I think one of the person that one of the people that mentioned that to me said that he got cut off before he got to answer so he did get cut off because his two minutes was up so that might be what we're referring to too all right thank you short-term suspension policy 4351 talks about the pre-suspension rights of the student the policy mentions the informal hearing Dr fa calls it due process Mr vogo refers to it as the school level investigation and when it comes to five six and seven year olds Miss baram describes it as a compensation so which is it these different terms have caused some confusion Mr voger thinks the suspension process starts with the
085school level investigation in policy 4340 and then moves on to the informal hearing policy one miss bom said they don't happen separately and they don't really they all really happen all at the same time the policy committee needs to clarify the language in policy 4351 and while they're at it they can include a sentence that describes what we've been told the principles are already doing this sentence is the principal would call a parent of a kindergarten first or second grade student after the investigation is over and before the suspension decision is made to suspend their child the policy committee needs to fix the policy 4340 and 4351 at their meeting on May 21st so the language is clear to everyone thank you thank you Miss oand Deli Loretta stack [Applause] house school level investigations policy
0864340 States the school administrator shall take the following steps in addressing all cases of alleged misbehavior appropriately referred to his or her office except when a particular board policy provides for a more specific response one investigate the facts and circumstances related to the alleged misbehavior and here are all available accounts including written accounts whenever possible two offer the student an opportunity to to be heard on the matter and to raise any defense the student thinks relevant three if the student requests that other Witnesses be questioned talk to them if reasonably possible and four determine whether a board policy School standard school rle or the code of student conduct has been violated the policy committee should also include a number five that states the quote the principal will call a parent of a kindergarten first or
087second grade student after the investigation is over and before a decision is made to suspend their child love our children suggests adding after the investigation is over to the sentence so it's clear when the call will be made the policy committee meets needs to make policy 4340 part of their agenda on May 21st I plan to be there to hear you discuss it thank you thank you Lindsay [Applause] Phillips good evening according to the proposed budget that was presented in March I think it must be clearly stated that out of 55 central office positions on The Chopping Block 27 of those are made up of instructional positions and student support positions those are the people that teachers and staff rely on of the schoolf facing positions social workers counselors instructional Specialists ECT are the positions
088with the highest percentage of cuts board your elected job is to make sure the county is doing their job to ensure that our schools are receiving the best it's not pointing fingers at everyone else so I ask you to look into seeking the answers to these questions well I have a lot I'll just give give you my top VI first how will the county ensure that mtss is followed through with Integrity once all mtss and instructional coaches are cut as it is a state requirement and proven effective second how will you ensure that you have taken all the measures to keep my children safe when you are taking student support resources and social workers out of our buildings and spreading them thin while not addressing the overcrowding issue third is the Strategic plan even being
089followed at this point half the people listed to do the task have either quit or have been cut finally when what were the five central office General Administration roles that were cut while Dr F says there was no Mis mismanagement there's definitely a lack of transparency everyone else's positions were listed by title were these the Esser funded positions you cut a year early or were these the admin that already retired why conveniently leave that out I hear a lot about attrition and saving jobs but little bit about the fact of the vital jobs that are being dissolved in the April budget meeting the tone was basically if all goes well everyone should have a job it won't be what they were doing the topic should have been how will cutting these specific jobs impact our
090students and how will switching jobs for or schools affect the life of the human who lost their position in closing I look forward to hearing how each of you will work with our County to address these questions and issues thank you thank you Jennifer Tucker Jennifer Tucker hello my name is Jennifer Tucker I a New Hanover County Schools teacher who is a part of a team that teaches almost 5,000 students annually this department operates on a roughly estimated $400,000 annual budget we are the reproductive health and safety education team known as Family Life Education the four teachers Who deliver this program to students in all the schools in grades 5 through eight are not only certified health teachers but we are highly trained highly qualified with 79 years of teaching experience in this program combined
091we are experts in our field the Family Life Education Program was implemented for the board's request and has been in place for 41 years we have won State awards for best practices the North Carolina healthy youth Act of 2009 was inspired by this County's two- trck model for delivering this type of education our team has elevated consent awareness and Reporting lesson in response to the recent sexual abuse we have seen in this County our reputation in the community and in the state is exemplary in those 41 years we have taught 250,000 students 92% of fifth grade parents opt into our program and over 60% of Middle School families choose for their students to take our classes this data proves that parents want this opportunity for their kids last week the board discussed the parent Bill
092of Rights according according to Schoolboard policy 3540 in which we offer parents the opportunity to choose what is right for their family we are more than compliant with this bill Dr faon highlighted family life's gold standard of full transparency through our website and annual open houses where parents are able to view all materials ask questions and meet their child's teacher to the board before you make any decisions to cut this highly respected and desired program I implore you to ask our team questions observe our classes and look at all of our material think you will be impressed your time is up thank you Natasha too Natasha to Katie Gates good evening after speaking three years here respectively respectfully excuse me highlighting the subtle intrusion of marxist ideology into our schools and challenging the book stamped
093I'm speaking a bit more directly we watch the news of students around our nation who have turned into social justice Advocates supporting terrorist groups anti-Semitism and bent on destroying America these deceived students were taught to hate America God and family and were not disciplined they want Israel and America destroyed they Rise Against the two main countries in the world respecting god-given First Amendment freedoms with a constitutional Republican government structure the irony is that some of these trans LBGTQ groups are uncovered women supporting Palestine and death to America if they set foot in many Muslim countries they'd be subject to execution Palestinian refugees are not accepted in 57 other Muslim nations because they are raised to be anarchists and American students are supporting Palestinians students have believed Marxist propaganda because they didn't have a strong Foundation
094where do student protesters get this mindset from school from high schools and universities since the 1950s and in the last 10 years the left has has even impacted K through eth graders with propaganda and Marxist ideologies through school systems one such example in New Hanover County is the wit and wisdom curriculum we paid over a million dollars for in 2020 this curriculum presents age inappropriate content while seal takes priority over critical thinking the fruit of evil curriculums text and teaching is now manifest over our nation if we don't stand up and return to judeo-christian American values rooted in virtue righteousness and Justice and if we don't bring God and moral back into schools we may not have a recognizable America thank you Karen [Applause] Clark thank you Lord that you will show Yourself Strong today
095and in the days ahead freedom is never more than one generation away from Extinction we didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream it must be fought for protected and handed on for them to do the same Ronald Reagan we are experiencing the fruit of curriculums no longer based on truth across our colleges and universities we have rebelled against God's word and rejected his wisdom wit and wisdom creates further division among this generation remove this dark deceptive evil curriculum it does not create a better world instead it negatively impacts our young K through five children with inappropriate dark topics hate racial division violence suicide murder cannibalism with anti-authority anti-American and anti-church agendas you Lord commanded David to pursue the enemy overtake and recover all your word in Joel I will redeem what you lost
096we carry the authority of redemption I pray in jesus' name you no longer tolerate evil agendas for our children you say what God says no compromise your word God's word right from wrong will not be blurred by experimental doctrines I declare New Hanover County Schools come into alignment with God's purposes for this generation and those to come these children will set their hope in God and not forget the works of God but keep his Commandments like the Joshua of old they will have no fear to enter their Promised Land walking in Fearless Victory bringing the Kingdom of Heaven to Earth boldly with passion making them the most devastating generation to the kingdom of darkness the world has ever seen the redeemed of the Lord say so am Peter Rish love our children loves subject matter
097experts We Remember When Miss vam used to give regular updates on the out of school suspension data at school board meetings she has never been invited to speak to this board about the suspension data why is that love our children has called on this board several times including as recently as February to have Miss Farnum talk about suspensions in New Hanover County our requests have gone unanswered so let's try again please have Miss farum share the in-school and out of school suspension data from this school year at the next board meeting specifically we'd like to see a breakdown of suspensions in each school by gender race and EC students we'd also like to see the K2 data by gender race and EC students and we'd like to know the number of schools that have suspended
098five six and seven year olds Miss Bradford asked Miss Farnum last month if the coding of the K2 suspension data could be corrected Miss vnum said yes so we'd like to have that presented as well we look forward to hearing from your subject matter expert at the June 4th Board of Education meeting thank you ad Del MC merry John Hopkins medicine States for girls the stages of puberty start around the age of eight this may sound young but we are seeing physical puberty changes start younger and younger and depending on genetics you may even start to see PU puberty changes at the age of seven girls going through puberty at younger ages is a global phenomenon between ages 8 and 14 girls confidence levels drop by 30% girls in fifth and sixth grades experience the
099largest declines in confidence and self-perception one in three young people will be in an abusive or unhealthy relationship 50% of young people who experience rape or sexual abuse will attempt to commit suicide as a member of this community a parent and a mother of Two and a survivor of past sexual assault and emotionally abusive relationship I know our boys and girls cannot afford the loss of the Family Life program and access to comprehensive sex education it provides Family Life provides the children of our community developmentally appropriate sex education throughout middle childhood and Adolescence that builds a foundational understanding of anatomy puberty education body image and autonomy healthy relationships consent education Online safety sex trafficking Sexual Health including abuse abstinence contraception teen dating violence and reproductive coercion rights and responsibilities this program has been leader in
100the state in reproductive health and safety for over 40 years the American Academy of pediatric States comprehensive sex education should occur across the developmental Spectrum beginning at early stages and continuing throughout childhood and Adolescence as parents we always have the opportunity and choice to teach and raise our children with our own personal sets of values and beliefs a teacher or expert will complement guide and grow the child parent relationship and open the door to organic conversations where family values are shared planted and Blossom our our children will always be exposed to Danger no matter how we attempt to protect them let's continue to provide our children the tools they need to thrive cutting removing or rebranding the highly respected and impactful Family Life Education Program teachers would be a huge loss to our boys and
101girls students parents School administrations in our community please keep the cost- effective Family Life teachers on your non-negotiable list bastardizing it into a gym class and elting the fifth grade curriculum will be ineffective the real question is can you our boys and girls and our community oford the cost of not keeping this program [Music] Tim Merck Tim Merrick good evening in order for our schools to have what they had last year we're told that we need an additional $20 million but you're only asking the county for a fraction of that help me out I don't get that if you're only asking for say $4.5 million are you saying we don't need the other 15.5 million are you saying we didn't really need it last year either are you saying that you wasted $15.5 million if
102we did need it then why don't we need it now and if we need it now why aren't you asking for it Dr F claims he has to produce a balanced budget but it's your job to know better Wake County Schools asked for an additional 50 plus million our Sheriff got an extra 18 million it's your job to hire a superintendent direct him or her and ensure an adequate budget to educate our kids you've fallen down on all three of these responsibilities in ways that will hurt our children let's take our family life education for example without trained professionals who know how to teach this delicate subject our kids will be more vulnerable to sexual predators and hey haven't we learned that the hard way already here and our team pregnancy rates will go up
103again more Futures cut short potential leaders lost and that's just one program now the average local funding in America for schools is $7,200 per student our County provides half that so don't be cowed by our County Commissioners and don't be cowed by our superintendent you're supposed to be directing them you are not subordinate to them you are responsible to our children please negotiate for what they need that's why we elected you David [Applause] Perry good evening I'm David Perry and as you know I'm running for a seat up on that school board but I'm here to tell you tonight this school district does not belong to you it doesn't belong to you Dr F either this this school district belongs to We the People you guys have been granted the power and voted in to
104be our voice but you are supposed to be listening at least to our voice our informed voice and that's why we need transparency in this school district and for far too long this school district has been the definition of a coverup culture and and that goes a long way and making sure that stuff stays quiet the deals like uh in discussions about the closing of the mosy school go on for two years without even the community getting to know that and the sexual abuse Scandal that went on and nobody said anything to anybody everybody uses the excuse oh my gosh well it's a confidential employee matter or a confidential School uh student matter or just a legal matter so we don't get to know we get like a one- sentence thing you guys went in
105the closed session and then we don't get to find out much of anything about what's going on but that's not the way it's supposed to be we need a school board committed to proactive transparency you can get rid of the personally identifiable information and still tell the community everything that you are doing let's do that and it starts with hiring a law firm unlike thanington Smith unlike the pointer spu things that are big conglomerates up in Raleigh who don't live in our community let's go with the Crosley School uh firm tonight that is local they care they live in our community and more likely to care about our community and our school district and people who say they don't have enough educational law experience yeah we get the sink Law Firm on the side for
106that so I urge you to do that tonight and I urge you to stand up for the Arcy thank Margie shuffler hello my name is Margie shuffler I'm a retired near Han County Schools Family Life education teacher I'm here today to ask you to preserve the Family Life education program including fifth grade growth and changes and middle school programs my life and Stepping Stones the current proposed from the central office staff is to decentralize Family Life by placing the current teachers into the middle schools as designated health teachers this would essentially dismantle the current program new hanur County families have come to Value the Family Life education programs for several reasons parents value a consistent message from highly trained teachers did you know that before they begin teaching their own classes newly hired Family Life
107teachers spend several weeks shadowing an experienced Family Life teacher through a full teaching rotation covering all the grade levels that they will teach this logistically could not happen if the with the proposed plan parents value safety did you know that family life teachers have a superpower in my 18-year tenure as a family life teacher the most common feedback is how comfortable the students seem to um feel learning the information and asking questions in our classes this is our superpower the Family Life teachers work hard to set the tone for the the class to create classroom boundaries so that students feel safe parents value the fifth grade growth and changes program the proposed plan would eliminate it even though the onset of physical changes of puberty can be as early as 7 8 or 9 years
108old growth and changes includes body autonomy sexual harassment and how to report it the loss or alteration of this valuable resource would be detrimental to our CH children's well-being I ask you to consider how vital this program is in its current form is for our community let us continue to prioritize the desired comprehensive reproductive health education and parent choice as we have done since the program's beginning thank you thank you Janna [Music] Hassam Jan Hassam hello board in a room full of Educators I'd like to offer a student perspective I was enrolled into the Stepping Stones program in grade seven and in grades seventh and eth grade and though at the time I thought it was just a fun break from gym class it actually offered some of the most valuable and sustainable life lessons
109I've ever learned in my entire educational career I do not remember the last time I had to calculate the area of a square or recite the Preamble or equalize a chemical equation but just last week I had to tell my friend who was a PhD student that HIV can in fact be transmitted through needles I had to tell my friend who was actually engaged how children are created and a very distant aunt died due to complications of a surgery called uh rgin surgery which is something unfortunately in my culture is very common which is the belief that you can become a virgin again after a rape or uh elective activities can be performed through a surgery so I'd like to say even though on paper I have the lowest uh I have the lowest education
110amongst all of my extended family I knew the most about consent advocating for my own bodies how diseases are transmitted and so much more and it wouldn't be possible without the Family Life educational program thank you so much [Music] last call for Natasha to I don't see her that concludes our call to audience yes you e for e all right board members if you'll make your way back please we appreciate it we have a long agenda ahead of us all right yes ma'am and there was a quick question we do have four board members here so we can start we will have a closed session at the end um it's under old business if you if you renew it Miss Walker if you refresh your thing it'll show it she put it on okay we
111will carry on uh next item of business you have most of our board members back is the consensus items I would entertain a motion to uh approve those items anyone hello consensus items okay I'll make a motion that we approve the consensus items is there a second I'll second okay we're moving forward now here we go give me a minute that's all right is there any discussion anybody want to pull anything off to discuss if not all in favor of approving the consensus items please signify by saying I I I all opposed carry 70 next we have our policy consensus turn that over to miss Mason um so on our policy consensus we have um two policies that were um ncsba substantive changes um because 3460 had uh a part removed we are asking to
112um remove the policy 3460 R which is the regulation um from the manual so I make a motion that we approve policy 3420 and 3460 and remove policy 3460 R I'll second that I beat you all to it that time all right is there a discussion hearing none all in favor please signify by saying I I All oppos Passes 70 carrying on uh we had added um a yeah policy discussion of 7300 and 3200 uh M Bradford you brought that up so I'll allow you to begin discussion thank you Mr chairman um I move to temporarily adopt the changes that you have before you these language changes to policy 7300 staff responsibilities and policy 3200 section selection of instructional material and yeah I move to adopt to temporarily adopt them until our next until this
113board can meet um in June if it comes through policy um but temporarily adopt it now because it's an emergency situation and um move it through the process um after the fact can you share with the board why you feel it's an emergency situation please yes um if people have been paying attention to the news um there are situations all over the country where um there is Discord there is uh racial Discord National Discord um we had an incident at Chapel Hill which I'm surprised some people haven't seen yet where the American flag was dropped um and it took the interim Chancellor to come out with the police escort to put the American flag back up I have been talking about this policy change now since I think November and I've been delayed and delayed
114and delayed and delayed I could see that this was coming that we would have a need to um to strengthen what our policies are so that if there's any it's a deterrent it's just simply a deterrent because of what's going on in the climate right now with so many people being so divisive and to be honest so much anti-American sentiment in our country and in our state okay there is a motion is there a second I'll second okay we have a motion and a second we'll carry on conversation discussion uh would someone like to speak against that motion Mr mcmanis well have we had anything that's happened locally that would demand an urgency that we pass a policy which we've not discussed um I would like to make sure that what we have in place
115is policies for discipline and expectations be that with staff and our students would be the first thing that we would do I don't want to overreact for something to happen in Chapel Hill and Chapel Hill has been known for reactions for decades um but I I just we haven't discussed this and I just don't feel comfortable passing something when we have not had a reason to do it yet and I think I need to clarify I believe she said temporary so only but temporary is right now okay yeah yeah I'm just making sure every against that's just reacting that's to me that's overreacting right now we don't have a reason for that okay that's like saying I don't like what somebody said tonight that doesn't understand what we do we need to pass poliy right
116now we we're not going to let people speak anymore I mean that okay I just don't think we need to react to this but barart Mr chairman I don't believe that our schools should be a place of activism and the reality is I know um as former policy chairperson this was something to question to even say what are the grounds what is the jurisdiction as far as school regulations that are feasible um and so I I do feel the sentiment of my fellow board member the cause of concern um just to lay those expectations because when you have different um School Personnel different parents coming to you and say what's the protocol with a display about um Palestinian Flags in the school what's the protocol of display of Israeli Flags in the school and my
117comment to them is I don't believe that school should be a place of activism and so the reality is we don't have said such policy so that there is room for interpretation at every one of our schools um and I I would like to see this policy move forward u m Walker head her hand up first I have no problem I mean I'm I'm an American obviously I was born here uh I have family that goes very far back I don't see this policy I don't first of all I don't know what temporary means I don't think we've ever passed anything that was temporary first of all second of all it seems like more of a restrictive policy than a positive policy because we already display American flags and North Carolina Flags we already do
118that so what this looks like to me is that you can't display anything else and I don't know where that goes I feel like it is it's clear that it's in support of everything that's American which is fine that's what we already do but it looks I mean we all took an oath to the Constitution to me that's the highest law that we have and I feel like if you do this it's almost like we're trying to restrict people's speech um I personally also have not seen anything that you know has risen to the level of an emergency uh policy I just don't understand why we would be doing emergency policies I don't I don't get it the proper way is you do it through policy committee you have a discussion you allow the public
119to weigh in on it that is America that is democracy but to to pull a policy that most people have not even seen and just say we got to pass it right now it does not make any sense to me so I'm very much against this and until it goes through policy and we have a robust discussion and let and let the community weigh in on it I don't see how we can do this I just don't think it's right and Mr Boog would you please uh let us know or or share with us the you know the terminology the temporary versus the permanent I think there's that's a very big key disc discussion absolutely um policy 2410 on policy development does require the board to go through a formal policymaking process that includes submission
120to uh propos policies whether it's a new policy or revision to an existing policy through the superintendent and the policy committee um but policy 2410 also provides for um temporary approval um that provision of temporary approval um is within a subsection regarding new policies um but if the board wants to um temporarily approve a policy um pending uh formal consideration through the policy committee um I think it would have a strong legal basis to to do so um so long as it justifies what the um emergency condition is or special event that that will take place before the policy can be formally adopted because those are the elements uh within policy 2410 that would justify temporary approval pending the board's formal process okay so we have had um person speak out against it do we
121have anybody who would like to speak out for it Mr raford I appreciate my colleagues comments but I have found that being proactive versus reactive is a much better way to approach things and if you watch the county commission's meeting yesterday yep yesterday um they are being proactive on what's going on on County property this is a proactive measure if nothing happens we're fine so I I I I do not want to be in a reactive situation I do not want to have to have the police come onto one of our campuses and deal with with an issue um without having something in policy that sets out where policy violation could occur thank you m f so just so I'm clear are we talking about which one of these policies are we talking about right
122now we're talking about both of them because they brought up together so we're doing it as a lump yes okay well first of all I want to say the last time I looked we are not an authoritarian Nation where we seek to squelch the voices of descent or those that are different so why then would we want our district to be doing that so Dr fa oh first of all and then so next policy 2330 letter B second paragraph says no action can be taken on a policy that has not been um significantly noticed and so which policy are we going to go with are we going to go with the one Mr vogle suggested or are we going to go with policy 2330 that says that we cannot um so yeah you can look
123it up and then um so we also policy um 3200 which one online that we want we're talking about in inserting there the policy we're looking at is old it was it was adopted in December 2020 um a quality review checklist is no longer required um I would think that our curriculum liaison and policy chairs past and present would already have picked up on that to know that we've already looked at this policy several times and it has not come up in policy 7300 to me this is just a Pyon of policy 7205 which is more disrespect of our educational professionals and I'm thinking that Dr F he sent us in a board member a a very long list of what everybody has in their classrooms at all levels and um there are things in
124there like pictures of my husband pictures of my wife pictures of kids holding hands um pictures of um let me go back to it real quick sorry I tried to memorize them all but I couldn't um inspirational quotes the um framed photographs again that was in there the um a numbers game c something say something that all these things see something say something is not part of our curriculum UMC and and actually some of the curriculum may be that we're taken out that we want to take out some of our social emotional learning or these kind of things or some of our family life kind of things so those aren't we're about to throw out those you know kind of you know curriculum kind of things but our schools are going to becoming looking more
125like prisons even inmates can have pictures of family and special interests on the wall and and there these are First Amendment rights that we're taking away from teachers and students the we're sending off our future teachers who all said that they wanted to make our classrooms more inviting engaging for all students to make sure that everybody felt included and now we're sending them with the message that we don't value this at all and we're not even going to allow it so I'm having a real hard time with that the um policy 2120 code of ethics letter A1 says we need to all applicable and state and federal laws this to me is a title one I mean a um First Amendment right violation all all across the board we have a curriculum committee meeting on
126May the 20th that will be led by Dr fac and Dr DeWalt where we'll talk about you 3210 to be discussed why is this an emergency that we don't we have not had that kind of stuff in our classrooms at all and we have had some students making fun of others but that wasn't because of anything that was posted on the wall in the classroom we had some people on this board that wanted us to have teachers take down signs that says this is a safe space where teach students who want to come and talk to PR you know teachers about issues going on in their family they're not even allowed to have safe this would not allow them to even say I'm inviting I'm welcoming you you can come and talk to me so
127I'm just looking at this going wow is this how we mold our students mold being a word I heard recently at at a meeting um what's the difference between molding our students to think the way we want them to think versus indoctrinating our students so it's just a matter of semantics and I think this is just another way to impose some people's personal feelings on a lot of different things and we're piling it on to our Educators who we are trying so desperately to keep in the classroom so this oh and then to lastly um Miss Bradford had just said I've been delayed delayed delayed well if you go back and we watch policy committee meetings I'm not attacking Oh I thought you were going to G me the um that policy 5210 has been
128pulled off the agenda three times now so it's not being delayed delayed delayed by any of us it's being delayed delayed delayed by Mrs Bradford so I just okay thank you I'm just stating a point you can go back and watch three policy committee meetings and you can see that so the um anyway so let me make sure I have all my notes cuz I I won't get back to be talked to again okay the um and I would like to make a motion that we if we must vote on these which we're not allowed we're going to be breaking our own policy that they be done separately okay we I have no problem splitting splitting the vote that's not a problem okay anybody like to speak for yeah Mr vog well when I heard
129from M krael I'm not sure whether that was a motion to amend that because there's a there's a motion on the table right now take off my motion I I retracted I retracted okay not a big deal um is there anyone else like like speak positively about these no okay um we have about two minutes left in my timing uh would you like to speak one more time M Walker yes I would us to get two goes at it right um 10 minutes so yeah okay that's fine I I mean I just you know I'm I'm trying very hard not to be personal as I really don't mean to but I I feel like this is absolutely is reactive but reactive to nothing cuz nothing has been happening I think this is kind of a
130I feel like it's a it's kind of a back way to just you know limiting people's free of speech in the classroom and it bothers me that we're doing it this way also I would like to know maybe our attorney can answer this if they has have a previous look at this policy before the rest of us did um because I don't think that's fair I mean if if our attorney is going to know all about what we're doing Mr V do you mind answering that question was this shown to you Mr vogle was this shown to you Mr vogle if I ask you a question you please answer it well I'm he's he's going through me like you're supposed to you're supposed to go through me I know he's not a board member I
131know but you're supposed to ask me should go to him I mean I am though understand can can you please answer the question I would like to know please answer the question Mr yes we had a chance to review it and determine it compliant with the First Amendment you did but nobody else did the public didn't not I get a chance to see this this is my point I don't think that's right that we do this when the public this is what we're supposed to do this is our job we're we're elected by the people they should have a right to see this too and voice their opinion on it I don't think it's fair that everybody's seen it but I haven't seen it all right we are at our end of our 10 minutes
132uh at this point we'll go ahead and vote and again please understand that this is as was brought up uh no we're done with the discussion I just want to know which policy we're going to violate okay again VI a policy but which one you're done thank you please be quiet you can't kick me out oh I can't no you can't we can take a 5 minute recess take a 5 minute recess let's take aess you and I need to talk Mr gra take a 5 minute recess e okay we're back in session Mr vogle would you please uh share with the board your your um interpretation of Miss Kel's question about breaking policy um would you say 2300 I the which policy are we going to violate 2300 2330 where no action can be
133taken without something being duly noticed or which one are we going to uh that one that one Mr vogle please thank you sir um to repeat um it's our view that if the board chooses to move forward with this um that it do so by only um seeking temporary approval of the policy pending the board's formal approval process that would include consideration by the policy committee and then ultimately um approval by the board full board if the board so chooses um temporary approval is a concept that is um contemplated within policy 2410 policy development adoption and review admittedly it appears in the sub section regarding adoption of new policies and this is um a revision of an existing policy but nonetheless it's our view that there would be a strong legal position um if the
134board chose to approve this on a temporary basis temporary approval pending board um full approval full the uh through the process uh and it would be recommended and I think we've heard it uh today that there' be some justification as to why this would constitute an emergency condition or a a special event that will take place before please uh deputies if you would please I need you guys up in this area because we're not going to continue to have talk thank you Mr so just to just to finish my thought um so long as the board on the record States what it believes the emergency condition is or um or event that will take place before formal uh before formal approval those are the two types of items that justify temporary approval again we are
135done with our 10 minutes so at this point we will be voting uh on accepting uh Miss um Bradford's uh motion for 7300 and 3200 on a temporary basis Miss uh can I ask what temporary means how long I believe it would I would like to modify the the motion if she doesn't have one miss Bradford I believe we would go through policy this this month is that correct I never heard of any time frame policy this month and and policy the next policy committee meeting is on the 21st so that's two weeks be in place until the 21st or until well until next June's uh board meeting yeah in June June 4th okay Miss buy please call the role Miss barnhard yes Miss Walker I'm sorry you say Miss Walker uh no thank you
136Miss Mason yes Mr mcmanis Mr wbore yes M crille I cannot believe this no no no and Miss Bradford yes passes 43 carrying on with our old business climate survey Miss Walker I I think it's breaking the law but hey uh we have a climate survey coming up uh Miss Walker is taking a lead on that so I'd like Mr chair I just needed a minute because I didn't have the words okay take your time I have the take your time okay so basically the board voted to do a climate survey of staff I have um you know Mr chair gave me Mr wildor gave me the um the task of compiling all the questions um and I have done so and so at this point I have got them all together and I do
137have them printed out here I will give them out to you after because Miss Mard wanted to see the list it all all I did was put every buttons together and I just put it in a list so I I have that to share with y'all so I am meeting tomorrow um via Zoom to discuss how that will roll out I'm hoping that we do that in the next week um and it it is going to be done in coordination with the university um I'm sorry I'm just thrown off by that last last conversation I apologize um so I don't um we're the hope is to get it out before obviously school gets out I know we we get out in about three weeks um I think aside from year round I'm not sure how
138that's coordinated with the year round schools but we should be getting out in the next three weeks so we would like for it to be rolled out in the next uh three weeks with all the questions that everybody has submitted and um get the results and uh I'm I'm I'm going to goad and say they probably won't be done by next they might be done for the next meeting but you know we want to give people a couple weeks to take it and um by that time time hopefully it'll be June that we'll get it but if we don't it will it will be July so I apologize I'm thrown completely off right now um does anybody have any questions I see I was say m Walker first off I want to thank you for
139putting you know for doing that I was I was kind of combine and you you said I'm I'll do it for you so I appreciate you taking off my I'm happy to help questions Bart I Echo the thanks to you Miss Walker as well um do you you said you have not compiled or I have I have okay yeah CU prior to going out I'd like for the board to be able to officially approve the survey and see see the list of it prior to going out so I I do I'd like to have it done before um we leave for the summer but also I'd like to see the survey before we submit it out so um I I thought that was the impression whenever we left this last time um and then as
140far as you said the UNCW School of government they will be the ones collecting the data no there will be UNCW School of Education okay so yeah so it took time for board members to get them to me and I wanted to make sure I I gave everyone time to send them and so I have that now I have them so and that happened probably later last week so it's going to roll out as it rolls out which means when people get me the things then it'll happen but yeah I'm going to have a discussion tomorrow and I will keep you all up to date on how that progress goes through email or however call me and I can tell you but I do have I did compile everybody's questions here so and I have
141brought everybody cop so okay thank you other questions no thank you I'm just I I was agreeing with um Miss Barnhart that it would be nice for us all to see and that um we are respectful of each other's decisions to put those down and not to veto some questions because you don't like them pasted so I didn't change anything remove anything it's just everybody but I you know I don't have everybody's names on them I just figured y'all know whose questions wereing just out of respect for everyone you know just uh have them in a list thank you Miss Bradford and Miss Mason um you had said that you were meeting next week by Zoom with tomorrow with whom professor at the University with somebody and the school of education okay and if we've
142got four weeks until our next meeting and we want to get it out before school ends which is in three weeks I just see we want to get it in the next week we would like to get it out in the next week so it a couple weeks to answer yes yeah it should I mean once the questions were submitted then I was able to do the next step and so yes where in there would we like Miss barnhard said where in there would we be able to see it once once the questions are they get the questions and they we can get it in then I should be able to send it to you guys Mason um and my question would be um did you find many dupli duplicates did you take out any
143duplicates that thank you for asking that question that's a very good question so um that's what we're going to talk about tomorrow because the teacher working condition survey just came out and so there may be some duplicates from that we don't want to repeat what's already been asked because that's th those results came out anybody can go on there and check out all the results of that but um that's what we're going to do we're going to make sure there aren't any that are repeaters on there but you know and drill down on what you guys have asked us to to drill down on can you give us the number I know you're going to give it to us in a minute but said without without going through and eliminate the ones that was already
144on the teacher working condition survey um I don't know but I can do that tomorrow okay I can I can s it tomorrow but like I said I have them all right here so I can just hand them to you and you can look at them I mean some of you may have duplicated some but I mean I felt people asked slightly different things but I mean it it it it ran the gamut so I'll show it to you and if you have questions just let me know I and I'll be happy to answer if I can other questions once going twice going three times all right Miss Walker thank you very much going on to new business before we can I ask a question um yes ma'am just before we move into legal since
145we're going to be talking about that what is this board's expectation of Dr fa about things on the wall are we expecting that principes go through and sweep their schools tomorrow and start um and take away from instruction time to rid their classrooms of things or are we expecting teachers to come in early or stay late I'm just curious as to what how that I know Dr f is going to manage all that but I just want want to see what our board's expectation of is this ridiculous thing we just did I'm not going to even uh answer that the ridiculous thing all right take out the ridiculous this thing we just did I appreciate that I think we'll give Dr fa uh a little time to look it over and I'm sure he'll come
146up with a very sucn plan to work with it okay so if I walk into a school tomorrow and things are still on the wall am I supposed to report people if I go into the school on Friday and things are still up am I supposed to report people we will share again we will trust the Dr F will carry it on as he does with all the policies carrying on uh two Legal Services uh my thought on this is we'll have a robust discussion of this uh giving everyone an opportunity to be heard uh and then we will take a vote we have 20 minutes aot of this so that should give us plenty of time as long as all the board members uh do uh understand that we have seven members so that
147gives approximately 3 minutes each a little less 3 minutes each to speak um and if we can do that uh that would be one wonderful but let's start with uh does anyone have a motion to start out with sorry I move that we adopt um pointer spru as our legal councel okay we have a motion let me get my pen out motion to uh adopt porner spru I'll second that there's a second for Miss Walker okay we'll start discussion there um who would who would like to speak out in in favor of perers perers Ru say it right M Walker would miss grab since she made the motion do the I don't care to go first or last it doesn't matter to me but the um I I'll I'll go ahead and start this is
148my first time the to go around if we look at the um RFP I want to call everyone's attention to that before we even get started that um the main thing in there was crap where that that we are supposed to be oh here it is um looking at and rating each of our candidates on it says the first thing is that we want a legal council that is well-versed in education law particularly federal and state statutory and case law governing public education Special Education civil service human resources and general municipality matters in North Carolina and provide a broad range of legal services and with and prepared legal documents we have we each filled out a rubric of what we thought that each how each person was supposed to um to each firm That was
149supposed to do and must be a firm in good standing which we we establish that they are and um that they have 11 in their education group must have demonstrated experience in local government with a preference in Board of Education representation they currently have represent 16 boards they have represented over 50 Boards of educations over the years and they specifically noted that they um have title n experts on their staff the the attending attorney was identified they do have a minimum of two years of experience in Boards of education and in Robert's rules in fact the attending attorney has 20 plus years in education law experience and especially with educa um EC law last the bad experience the one I just say I named in the first place they have experience in all of the
150areas listed above in scope and services in the RFP plus Title 9 safe schools act discipline policies procedures First Amendment issues they are current on education practices through General subscriptions and professional journalism professional journals memberships and training for sth and boards and number five should be able to demonstrate qualified backup rep representation they have a very deep um education law bench and they have many other areas of expertise on there so for the public who does not know we have had to rate them as such zero does not meet the standard cannot be scored no qualifications were submitted number one rating many of the qualifications are not present number two most qualifications are evident number three almost all qualifications are evident number four all the qualifications are evident and met all number five all the
151qualifications are met and exceeded and I present to the board that they have are fives in all of these categories with over 200 plus years of experience in education law they are a bipartisan Law Firm or nonpartisan law firm and um which is what all education law firms should be and one of their councils even said it's very different to be a school board member School Board attorney versus a municipal or other board attorney thank you m and they have trained title n investigators on their team thank you very much would someone like to speak against Porter's rule please youno one okay would anybody like to speak for Corners BR Mr mcmanis well I'm not speaking for or again I'm trying to look at the statistics and not make it a personal decision uh the
152group that's local can be nicer people about fact the guy and I met duck hun one time so I got to like him he's a duck hunter but they openly and I really appreciate their integrity by saying they had no experience now somebody's going to say we're going to save $20,000 in travel money if if we take my local I get that what I don't get is I can't support Thon and Smith as much as I likeed Jason because they have somebody working for the insurance company which we're having to deal with and that LE spru Sproul has they've worked in every facet from every level from the federal to the courts to everything to deal with exceptional children and if you haven't read lately there's been a couple of articles about the exceptional children
153arena is now the biggest issue for school systems in the country and the most costly and spru if you look at their their their credentials and their experience they have an absolute very very strong arena in that area and so I think they on paper meet the criteria for what we need and what's going to be in the future um so I'm I just I have to be positive about school what's left thank you sir I appreciate it I'm going to go ahead and speak out U I was actually going to speak uh positively towards Crosley but I'll use that as a negative first off we we talk and talk and talk about supporting local businesses we love local business we have CTE we have the chamber we are just so passionate about local businesses
154however when local business steps up to the plate we say nah you know they were truthful Mr MCM I agree with you 100% you know they could have easily said you know well we could do it this way we could do it that way they were very honest they said and how the last time you you know I'm not going to say last time you hear an attorney be honest but I think they hopefully are but you know you think about it they they didn't they didn't you know go away from their shortcomings they they were they were honest about it they said we already have which we do we have a uh uh contract signed with both perers spru and with uh um the other um sinks to um to to cover uh special
155education so Mr MCM I couldn't agree with you more I am going to mention that uh you know we spend a lot of money right now for attorneys to drive down the road from another jurisdiction to us uh and both of these firms would do so would do likewise uh you know I did hear anywhere from 122,000 to $25,000 that's an equal uh $225,000 is uh somewhat equal to our a ta's um pay and we talk about we want to save every job we can possibly save that's $25,000 that we were starting out um you know I I'll say it was partly my Pro my fault I I I thought we could trust folks uh I was asked Miss Sutton came to me before and she was very honest she said do you want us
156to sequester folks and keep them apart so they don't they didn't hear each other's things and were able to attack or not she didn't say attack but it ended up being let's see what shortcomings they have so we can attack them when it's our turn to speak um you know and they went first so they didn't have that you know maybe they would have done that too I can't say if they would have or would not have they care about our schools I mean they couldn't have said that enough we have kids in your schools we have we've had students in your schools uh we're a local firm you know I just can't see how we can as a board say how important it is uh we talked about what the chamber did for us
157you know the Chamber of Commerce of our local businesses um you know and I'll I'll close my little section cuz I'm just about out of time but you know if we value local businesses and one steps up to help out what do we say we want Corporate America or we want to BU local so that's that's my thoughts on that anyone else like to speak I would like to speak Mr Walker Oh anybody like to speak first time first you could I haven't spoke yet so Oh I thought you did I'm sorry nope you just seconded I'm sorry yes you did you're right my mistake go ahead okay um we had a rubric again that we set that clearly outlined what we were looking for and we all scored them um pointer Sproul is absolutely
158qualified they don't have a history with us like other firms do and that is what we need I'm looking at the scores that we all gave and they're at the top the other firm as nice as they are as local as they are and I'm not saying anything negative about them personally they even say they are not qualified in education law and that is what we asked for so I might like them all day long even though I don't know them and they're are neighbors I just don't think they're qualified for what we need and if we are being serious with intention about what we need for this District we will pick the firm that is the most qualified to serve Us in every capacity and I'm looking at our scores and crossy did not
159they did not they did not get the highest they were the lowest and pointer scoll was near the top so I hope we do not choose a law firm that will not serve us the best because all that that's what I I care about I have it's nothing personal to me I just think that if we're doing our jobs we're picking the ones that are most qualified period anybody like you speak first time we going anybody second time go ahead Bart thank you Mr chairman um I think I spoke up about this a few months ago where the area of concern was special education our policy allows us to utilize different area of expertise in the event that we choose to do so as a board and so a few months ago we did that
160um the reality is looking and being told things in closed session we have Personnel we have bonds and forfeitures we have special education and then we have someone who gets to sit up here on the dis and help educate us whenever we are not in the right order of Robert's Rules so the different facets of what law firms do for us and the capability of the attorney I think for the third firm which is the local for firm the biggest area of my own personal concern is special education this board has also agreed with me because we have a specified special education lawyer so my area of concern is Still Remains and we also have provided an answer um I think the chairman brings up a good point about looking at the dollar amount I
161mean that was why we opened up a year ago looking for um different legal services to begin with was looking at ways for us to save money for the district uh I would still like to do that thank you Mr mcmanis uh well two things one if anyone I haven't asked Miss farum with her background and her experience who she thinks would be best suited to deal with the exceptionality arena but you don't want her to so okay that's out number two would you like to share with the public and I know you're going to say no but to call I want somebody to do you want to share how much we've spent with lawyers this year particularly in the exceptional Arena that would be a great measurement stick for everybody about the qualifications of
162who we want to be our attorney I didn't divulge any secrets all right we have a motion and a second M CR you like to speak again I do so um back to those qualifications when we look at must be affirm for um if we're talking about the the crossly I was waiting for that discussion but it looks like I have to go now um yes they are all in good standing with some questionable history must they have de they must have demonstrated experience in local government with a preference in Board of Education um they said that they have many years of experience in local governments but did not tell us how many and who they were um no Board of Education Spirit the attending attorney was not identified until the very last end and
163he said out loud I've never even been to a board meeting before and I'm going to have um another attorney be my co until I'm ready they have a a keen familiarity with Robert rules they say but they did not um mention that they had done any training or ever and had no evidence of ever doing that training when we talked about all the areas of practice there's no evidence of special education um legal Frameworks unique to Boards of Education um they do have some employment law workers comp insurance defense but um how does that really translate into the unique situation that we have is that we have children involved not just employees and to your point that yes we want to be local and that we have reached out to the Chamber of Commerce
164but all of the businesses that are working within our schools are all very qualified subject matter experts in their field this Law Firm Crossley is not um and they're the the mention of a qualified backup they have five people on their board and the person who's supposed to be the backup was too busy to even show up to the presentation when we look at $1,728 let's just say that that's 1644 time 12 which is what Mr Vogel charges that's $19726 if you look at what um both of the Raleigh law firms they were going to charge anywhere from $ 800 to ,000 times that by 12 so now we're talking 9600 versus 12,000 we have a multi-million dollar budget and we are going to quibble over $20,000 of travel expenses at the expense of putting
165our school system in Jeopardy our board has many discussions and closed sessions that probably should be an open session we need a lawyer who's going to bring us back back in and and talk to that so that the public has access to the business of the board that they are entitled to hear how are we going to ensure that the due process for students privacy rights you know student records and student discipline Title Nine complaints and resolutions I don't believe that Crossley can manage all of that they're going to have we're going to have to pay even more money to bring them up to speed on just what education law is so they know that they're not qualified to handle it and then we got to go out and find people to do that and
166bring them up to speed and then how and do we need a lawyer that knows the law on custody matters and parental rights I Crossley definitely doesn't have any of that and if we look at our Consolidated Matrix and if we are all data driven which we say that we are we had 84% of people picked sington Smith by their ratings if they were truthful we had 67% picked Crosley that's not even two3 it's three minutes we're thank you all right at this point we are going to go ahead and vote the vote in front of us is for perer spru Miss Buie would you please call the role Miss Barnhart no Miss Walker yes Miss Mason no Mr mcmanis yes Mr wildbore no Miss kill yes and Miss Bradford no that's defeated 4 to
167three I would entertain another motion Mr chairman I make a motion that we work with the crosy I'm going to mess up the name uh crosy Mac Macintosh firm with the with the adjusted values as followed the partner rate which would split the difference between Fairington Smith and pointer feral to be $250 per hour the associate rate will be kept at the 200 the paralal rate would be moved down to $110 per hour and the named attorney that would be working with us for the time being would be norward Blanchard okay is there a second I will second that and we'll have discussion would someone like to speak out for the Crosley group I already have so um I I'm going to stay with what I said before I'll start and again I think it's
168a local business I think that um we do they are truthful um we do have a situation uh as we've already shared that we do they were very truthful about the fact that they are not uh strong in EC law and they were uh very upfront about that and they were willing to work they have they mentioned in their uh dosier several uh local uh government boards that she work that they worked with um so I think that they are uh strong in that area um and I think it is a situation that we can work forward with them so is there someone that would like to speak against them for again we're at three I guess we'll say it 3 minutes Miss wer thank you Mr chair I cannot believe that we are going
169to potentially hire attorneys that are not qualified to be our attorney as nice as they are as much as I liked them they are not qualified to handle the things that we need we are a very large school district and that is what is the most important thing not whether we want a smaller firm a larger firm or we think someone is good for us or not in a general sense I just think hiring someone that scored obviously the we're doing this again I mean I feel like we've been here before I mean we've scored them the lowest all of us well except for a few but if you add it up they are the lowest which means they are not qualified to to defend us or whatever ever and I am I'm just nervous
170at what's going to happen what is it going to cost us in the end and I don't mean just in money I meant mean a lot of things I am very very concerned that we won't get the service that we need and that will be a disservice to our students so I hope who if that gets passed and they're the ones that get hired I really really really hope that we are not going to regret it but I am concerned that we will thank you Mr Walker Bart Mr chairman like I said before my concern lied in the area of special education law so in in my motion it's still an assumption that we are continue to work with the special education lawyers that we currently have named as a board so I just want
171to reiterate that because that has been my area of concern I'm still holding true to that I do not want that to go away so with that being said if there's another area specific of concern from my fellow board members that they would like to discuss further beyond that then I'm open to to hearing about it but for me personally that's where it's coming from and I intend to keep that Mason I'm sorry is there anybody that would like to speak against against that's me yeah okay so if you remember back to our the presentations Mr Kroy was very pleasant but all he talked about was how they were all fathers of children in the schools not one bit about their legal how they're going to represent us um Mr Kroy also said that he
172he had met with resistance from this the school board on resolving some special needs issues for his son how is how are we expecting him to defend us as the school board if we've already come in with that um Miss barnhart's suggestion that Mr Blanchard be our attending attorney um we had also interviewed him to do some other work for us and he turned us down so why now would he want to be our our attending attorney um did he turn that work down because he thought he was going to be guaranteed this job I don't know I'm just throwing that out there um yeah okay sorry sorry the um so he said that we are fast Learners well maybe they are but we're going to pay for all those ramp up costs because we've
173already had an attorney who had to do some of those kinds of things ramp up costs and we've p and we've had to pay for them because they've been on our invoices we had one board member who asked the question um who do you discern on who you report to the board or the District administration and um so we're already establishing like lines in the sand on who you can talk to and who you can't they are very they are very pleasant people they we they are not qualified to do the work of a multi-million dollar 25,000 student 4,000 plus employee they have done only civil law litigation for League of municipalities they've done some construction law but they haven't done anything with academics at all you know um the as far as like knowing
174student wreckage knowing records knowing if a student is getting all the services they need whether they are IE IEP students or they AIG students the um they so I'm I'm just very concerned that we're going to cut off our nose to spite our face to have somebody that's in our community that doesn't know what they're doing to represent the best interest of all of our 25,000 students and they are our primary concern at this point $220,000 is for travel expenses is a drop in the bucket um when it comes to all that we have to manage and defend ourselves against thank you m crille Miss Mason um I'm actually not speaking for or against um I had some concerns myself with this particular particular Law Firm um and some of the big ones were um
175the EC Arena which as mentioned several times we do have covered until 2025 um so that was squelched the other concern I have is as mentioned by somebody in the audience Title 9 um there's new legislation with that um and I want to have strong guidance on that um and I was a little apprehensive when I heard their response to that um and so those are those are some of my bigger concerns I do appreciate that um we would be saving money in travel um I think that that's important I do think it's important to have an investment within the community um some of the bigger corporations the bigger law firms do not necessarily have that personal investment in the community um I am uncertain at this point as to whether they would be the
176best representation for us else to speak all right Miss Miss Bo would you please call the rooll this is again now to accept the Crosley group uh as our Law Firm Miss Barnhart yes Miss Walker no Miss Mason no Mr mcmanis no Mr wildbore yes Miss crille no and Miss Bradford no hey that's defeated we will carry on with our another motion Mr chair I move that we continue with our current Law Firm who is qualified and at the same time I would like to point out that we have policy against board members vilifying character assassinating vendors and if we can continue to do that I am going to insist that we enforce our policies um I I we we cannot vilify this local Law Firm we need to stop vilifying anybody it's out of
177order it doesn't abide by Robert's Rules of Order so I'm making a motion that we continue with our current Law Firm have a motion to continue with Vogal Law Firm is there second can I amend that may um I would like to if it's okay um add that we would put out another RFP Q um to uh acquire more bids on possible other attorney firms can you put a Time stipulation on that please the next two months and the next week immediately immediately immediately okay thank you okay are you are you in favor of that Amendment okay well is there a second on so are you second your he and then amending it I'm confused here okay all right he doesn't have to second so is there a second on Miss Mason's Amendment let's go
178to that first well we're going to have a discussion after we we need a second somewhere I need a second somewhere so Miss Mason's motion is to amend Miss Bradford's motion to um continue continue with the vocal law firm and put out another RF is it P or q p thank you p is there a second to Miss Mason's motion M was there a second on Miss Bradford's motion I didn't hear of the second there was a second on hers I didn't hear it I don't know if it was her second I thought Melissa started did you she changed you didn't okay okay all right let's go back to M Bradford's original motion to I will second that okay now we have a second all right you are correct Miss Mason will second that and
179make the amendment to oh my Lord to put forward an RFP immediately okay is there a second on Miss Mason's Amendment I'll second it just so we can have some discussion because I've got some things to say have second second on the amendment okay so now we are going to talk about the amendment then we'll go back to the original motion so the amendment here is to um put out RFP immediately Mr chair okay uh let's speak who would like to speak forward uh positively for that I don't know if this is positive or negative I don't I don't think it's against a firm jump in I just I want to point for clarification because we have our current attorney till June 30th correct why do we need to keep the attorney if we already
180have him that was my question I mean putting out an RFP is fine that that should be the motion but we already have right cuz it's May and then June so but I guess because today we if we make a decision on another group then we will not have Mr vogo anymore after June 30th we still will well until June 30th but if we if correct but we let's talk about her motion right now yes if I might yes I mean the time that it's going to take to go through the process again to send out the RFP and then to get the bids we have to have that time frame in addition to hearing from more attorneys that may overlap in when the contract ends so just making sure that we're covered until we
181have that so so yeah so just to followup if you don't mind um if we do that then we need to change our RFP procedure because I think it's not been working I feel like what we've been asking for for at least we need to make it clearer or something because I've I've been following the directions three times now and I've scored them according to what we've asked and it just doesn't matter doesn't seem to matter so so we need to Define what we're looking for because if we have special education a law firm right now doing that what what are we actually looking for we need to figure that out as a board because we can put all the RFP proposals or whatever out there we we want we're not going to get people
182that are going to come to us with proposals I don't know if we can run out of people or I don't know how do we tell more people I'm just confused about the process maybe we need to figure that out that's a good point go to Mr MCM then miss crille it's not funny but it's interesting that I predicted this from the very beginning that we would get to this moment when somebody would say let's start over again so we can keep Mr vogle we gave weight to each attorney anony Smith actually turned out to be first spr was second and the local group was last considerably we went through the motions an attorney for a school board is absolutely one of the most single important it's got to be a part of this of
183this we we we've done the process is I'm upset but I'm handling it so I don't lose my cool this is nothing but a ploy to start over again to keep Mr Vogal I'm next Miss why did we go through the hours the hours of presentations time is done well put me out then Pete don't take me off my commit and put me out I'll go with CR bill because this is absurd M MCM go ahead put me out do it okay you'll just get a talking to back in the room so don't worry about it not going back there with you going put me out I believe that this is a disingenuine attempt to make it look like we're going through all the right things because we believe in the getting the right Council
184and all it's doing is coming back to another Council that has not served our needs if we if we remember when we went back when we did the these evaluation processes Mr vogle was also last and was it was insisted that he was allowed to make a presentation and then he was voted on so we got to just get our priorities together and this is um this is not the way to do it that I would rather s see us because if first of all if we put out another RFP we're going to get the same people and we're going to have the same conversation again so perhaps now is the time that we think about hiring internal counsel where Dr Barnes and his team would be getting resumés interviewing people and then we have
185somebody up here that we know is going to be experienced and have because we wouldn't hire them if they weren't um and then we could make that call on our own on you're good at this and not that we can make the decision right away so I don't think we can make a motion on top of a motion on top of a motion so I'm going to have to vote down you know um Melissa's motion but maybe now is the time we talk about general counsel because we're just going to get the same people again and even if we change the policy in my heart I believe that if some people on this board don't want it then they're going to lowball and they're going to make sure that we get everybody in and they're
186going to make up reasons that we need them so those are my thoughts Miss Mason I'm going to try and be as respectful as possible because there's been a lot of accusations have been hurled my motivation was to find a good attorney that did not have any conflict of interest at all and none of the three were any of those things you can believe me you cannot believe me but both pointer spru and thanington have worked with liberty and I don't feel Crossley is qualified I am allowed to feel those things without any further motivation and I find it highly disrespectful that individuals are calling that out now I'm going to speak next uh I'm going to speak next Mr MCM thank you um thank you um number one I think we all remember when
187we uh had some votes before for other things um appointments Etc when people were low ball so that other people would get the position um and that's another situation um but this this particular situation um I I spoke about who I thought was a good firm I think that was a good firm um I've spoken before about the whole idea of this pre uh screening and that's why you know we had to go through it but it was uh you know I I don't think I've changed my scores so I think it is uh any kind of ulterior ulterior motive that I that I may have anyway uh in saying that I think this group is the group uh we had somebody up here with a sign today that reminded us of I you know
188of uh one group that that said that keeping students safe in our schools was not you know our job as new han County schools that was put out that what that young lady had up there was very true so to me that that's got to go into your your well there's the sign thank you thank you for bring the sign back to me um you know exactly what we're talking about so you know me saying that this group is uh you know the my best group or the group I thought look at my scores look at you know what I said you know I'm I'll be honest I I I'm a little bit uh disappointed that the people's Integrity are being called into question here but um it is what it is I mean that's
189what I guess we have to deal with here miss barnhard then miss mmis Mr chairman procedurally um there's a differing opinion of two different legal councils and representation um if I am correct I'm not able to do this because I voted yes for the Crosby firm but if anybody wants to consider a motion to reconsider either of the two firms the somebody in the negative would have to say I make a motion to reconsider to vote on this otherwise the same legal council stands so that's something for us to consider as a board would you do it sorry this is something for us to consider as a board if this is not the direction that individuals want to go with I have already stated that I'm in favor of the local entity with the specialized
190education law being stayed in place that it currently is and before Mr MCM I do stand in eror that Miss Bradford does not have an opportunity to speak so let her speak then you Mr bre my I think something that we're overlooking here is the choice of an attorney isn't a personal choice correct the board the seven of us have the opportunity to express a personal choice of which law firm they want and to be honest we don't have to give you any reasons because the choice of someone to represent you legally to go to court and represent you legally to advise you to keep your tail end out of The Slammer is your choice and I think we are are ignoring that when we make accusations about other people's motives it's a personal choice
191thank you Mr chairman Mr mcmanis what well I most people are data driven I I am too if I have it so let me share something with you please bear with me so when we did the Consolidated Matrix when all the board members this is not confidential is it no so let me tell you how everybody on the board voted let's start with Miss Bradford she gave thanington Smith 10 poros BR 10 and the Local 25 that's fair she do what she wants to do miss Mason gave Thon and Smith 21 por spru 20 and she gave the Local 18 so that's why being I'm surprised Mr wildbore gave theena Smith 21 and then por on sprunger 18 and crley 23 so you did you're the only one who gave them more votes other than
192myself and barnhard 20 for ther Smith 19 for porner 18 for crley so the so why is it not fair for me to be suspect when each one of you who want to or want to change you voted against you absolutely here's proof that you're not being totally right and what you're saying I just sheet of paper they voted against it now they want it I mean what we do what what do we do this for what are these exercises for Mr MC can I but the intent was there can you can you read my score again please oh you were the one that you voted you said all three of us did so I didn't you're the only one that voted for cross to G the highest score what I'm saying okay so I
193did thank you all right let's go ahead and we are running out of time here so let's go ahead and vote on the amendment here which again please miss Mason would you rem remind us of your amendment to continue with Council current Council and put out an RFP immediately okay Miss bu would you please call the role I'm sorry for clarification are we voting on the amendment first which was to add the RFP and then it will go to the pre it would go to the original motion which is to continue with Council so we're we're voting on whether or not we're putting out another RFP yes that was the original motion original amended motion be a separate Mo I just don't understand why they're confused because one motion is I'm not trying to be
194funny here I'm just like I feel like to miss barner's point we're voting on doing an RFP why can't we just have that as a standalone motion why does me because we're already we already have current Council till the end of June and I understand doing an r ofp and that's fine I just don't know why we're doing it on top of each other you think it'll go past June 30th is that the suggestion I I I'm curious because if it is then we have to resign or I mean if it's going to go past Miss let's ask Miss Sutton Miss suton how long would it typically take to put out an RFP um like to give oursel at least two months month that's why we started so early because then we have time to
195lead the RFP out to give people time to respond and then to go through the EV valuation process okay there you go Mr rer board M crille um so do we even know if Mr vogo wants to continue on he didn't put in an application in the RFP um and so we didn't have a chance to hear from him again to even consider him in that so does he even want to he and he didn't apply Bogel would you like to answer that please it would be an honor to continue to represent the school board and even if we didn't have this circumstance um a lawyer will continue to represent his client and not leave his client high and dry okay thank you sir so miss buy would you please call the role this is
196again for the amendment then we'll go back to the main motion Miss Barnhart no Miss Walker no Miss Mason yes Mr mcmanis no Mr wildor yes Miss crille no and Miss Bradford yes okay that's still defeated 4 to3 so we go back to the main motion M Bradford would you please remind us of the main motion I moved that we continue with our current legal councel as an extension and I will um you can't change your motion unless you tell us yeah okay so the motion is to continue with the current legal counsel so Mr wo do we have to vote to continue something or do we just continue something because his his his contract is due on June 30th so we weren't given notice that we were voting on Mr vogle at this point
197wer so um I mean I think we need obviously we need our lawyer to weigh in but he's weighing in on himself so um do we have to even make that motion to continue what we we do that all the time in policy we we were not making a change so we don't move it forward so Mr chair we do have a motion and a second so it's on the table Mr vog would you doesn't mean it's good Germaine the board can make a motion even if it's something it doesn't have to do it can it can make a motion and a motion has been made in second Miss buoy would you please call the role Miss Barnhart yes Miss Walker no Miss Mason yes Mr mcmanis Mr wildor yes Miss crille no and Miss
198Bradford yes Mr W I'd like to make another motion please passes 4 to three just do the do it just do the motion yes' I'd like to make a motion that we um while we're keeping Mr Vogel until June 30th that we search for a in-house legal counsel okay there's a motion since we're talking about Legal Services it would be Germaine is there a second second discussion M grael why don't you start for us so we can't seem to agree on what the qualifications are for legal councel to adequately and appropriately represent us so why would we not consider the option of having a full-time employee where there are no travel expenses the person would be part of our community um would be willing to do that would give us impartial nonpartisan advice and he
199would be managed by our superintendent and in conjunction with perhaps the HR because they would be the one that would create the job description for that so why would we not want to have someone on our side and then we would be very much in control of the lawyers that we pick in a very timely manner because it would already be brought to our attention um because they're not going to lose their job because they're not they don't have that expertise the um so I think it makes sense to have someone on our on our staff is there someone that would like to speak against in-house counsel Miss Bradford I may have mentioned a minute ago it's a personal choice and when we have a law firm that we choose to represent us if the
200majority of the board decides they want to make a change then we have policy and procedure for that if we hire an a a a yearound lawyer they're on the payroll they get benefits and to fire them is going to be almost impossible um I am totally and absolute against it if you remember way back when when Mr vocal first spoke to us um staff told us that they were were not in favor of that budgetarily or whatever reason they gave this is a personal choice of who you want to represent you as your legal counsel I don't want HR chip making that choice for me I don't want anyone else making that choice for me I want to cast my vote and and and and here we are okay anybody else like to speak
201for it four yeah um thank you I feel like we have got We've Come to an impass because we've had like I said we've gone through this already and it feels and now now we've just had a vote to keep the council we already have currently it doesn't expire until the end of June um I didn't think we had to approve ourselves for things we've already done I mean if we were going to vote on that we could have done that the end of June to do an extension or whatever but we for weird just voted to keep somebody we already have I'm I'm confused so I I as a person that's kind of I'm busy just like everybody else and I have had to do this process twice now which I feel for nothing
202so if we're going to go forward we need to be intentional about what we need and what we're looking for and I'm sorry I just I don't want to waste my time anymore I mean it's valuable to me I don't know if care about my time but I've done this so many times and I am just I am trying to understand and what we are trying to find here for an attorney do we trust that we trust to do the education law the special whatever we need we need to decide it right now the only thing I can that I feel is on the table is hiring somebody to be in house that checks all the boxes that a lot of board members have said local part of the community I mean I I just
203don't know what else to do unless we you know we had an RFP thrown out but it was attached to an extension I wasn't against doing another thing but I just feel like if we're going to do this can we please have parameters and follow them because I'm looking at the scores and it it said we scored them on their qualifications but I don't feel like we all did that and so I just don't I don't know it needs to be we need to have we need to do it with Fidelity and we need to do it and promise each other that when we look at it we're looking for certain characteristics or we change the process either way I'm just I'm tired of doing the same thing over and over again because I feel
204like it's a waste of time so that is why I seconded miss cra's motion and unless somebody has a better idea I don't know where we how we go forward because we clearly we have a contract ending so I just want to remind everybody we have about 50 minutes left in our time uh we do have a closed session that we do have to get to we're already over by an hour you know we only had 10 20 minutes a lot to this I know that's yeah yeah yes so well exactly um my question is where do the questions come from that we fill it out is it pulled from the RFP or are they questions that we can adjust adapt so that we're covering for our evaluation of the law firms so that we're
205covering all of the concerns that we have heard and seen um come up is it possible to change the questions um so yes so the board can make the determination of what they want included in the RFP and they can also make the determination on how they're going to evaluate but the evaluation should tie back to what was asked for in The Proposal because that's how the firms would know you know how to respond but yeah so we the the um RFP that we used is a template that the state puts out and and we've tweet we have tweeted it a little bit in the past and we've continued with that format but certainly the board can make adjustments to that we do have a motion and again we Mr have I spoken twice I
206don't think I have on this one no but we also are running out of time I know but I want I want to make this statement to us as well is that um in response to um another board members comment that we don't have to tell the public our reasons for how we vote we are elected officials and we do we are we are accountable to them and we it it we are accountable to say why we made the decisions that we have and so um and I asked for but we didn't get the I would like to see each one of our personal evaluations so that we can kind of see and help I mean if we' have had those ahead of time like I wrote down all my notes on why I gave
207the number that I did and it might help us if we could see how each other evaluated letter letter number two or number three it might help facilitate the conversation cuz we may be seeing the same thing in a lot of our a lot of these characteristics and if somebody's seeing something glaring then that would be so um that's a matter of public record too so you know anybody can see whether we whether we choose to say them out loud anybody's going to be able to see those so I just wanted to bring that out and then also that if our board if our board attorney is in housee then we have to follow the same sort of rules about talking to an employee and we will lose some of us will lose our intimate
208relationship perhaps with legal counsel I mean you you get you get to because you're our board chair and it says it straight out there none of the rest of us have any of that unless you choose to give it to us so it doesn't matter whether they're an employee or legal counsel but it will be will have different policies that we have to follow which I think would be a good thing bford and then we'll one second um I would like to remind the board and the audience that there are three open seats on this board in November you will be able to vote for new board members that is not J to this discussion point of order point of Mr of order been brought forward in six months we'll have a and I do
209uh find that is an order so let's vote M buy this is again miss CRA refresh your member that we seek to hire inhouse Council Miss buy Miss Barnhart no Miss Walker yes Miss Mason no Mr mcmanis yes Mr wbore no Miss crille yes and Miss Bradford no okay that ends our legal discussion we're going to carry on with our Title Nine discussion Mr vogle okay thank you Mr chair this is really going to be more of an announcement than a a discussion even though it's under new business I'm I'm not suggesting a a vote or anything I just wanted uh Mr chairman at your suggestion wanted to let the board know and and for the listening and attending public know that on April 19th uh the education department issued new title 9 regulations um
210these are federal regulations issued by the federal government Title Nine is a statute that prohibits uh sex discrimination in education programs um these regulations Focus primarily on the response that a school district or University or the recipient of federal funds uh needs to make to reports of uh sexual harassment and sexual assault also deals with your basic sex discrimination that does not involve harassment or uh assault for the school board and this is something that I'll be advising you um in uh in Clos session there are you know very I changes that will ultimately have to be made to uh procedures and how the school district processes reports of sex discrimination uh and uh maybe the the item that's in these regulations that is getting the most attention is the fact that for the first
211time the uh the regulations would Define sex discrimination to include among other things discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity and that is a first uh for uh federal regulations and something that I'll be talking to the board about and providing advice about these regulations go into effect on August 1st uh unless a court blocks the effectiveness of the regulations and I mentioned that because there have been several lawsuits uh that were filed last week seeking to uh block the effectiveness of the regulations how that litigation you know uh uh proceeds remains to be seen uh several lawsuits in several different federal courts and several different states involving state and organizations um but between now and then we have a uh a final regulation that goes into effect on August 1st and
212I just wanted the board to you know know know that that was the case because this is a very um important regulation and we'll have questions and answers in close session correct precisely yeah be happy to answer it okay so I attended a workshop um put on by um aex which is um The Association of title N9 um Associates and um nothing in this new policy I mean these new regulations warrants closed session discussion because it what we're going to have to do is where and this is where I am thinking that um this is one of those things that the public has the right to know what those changes are um in there and they really are talking about a lot of administrative changes to our policy so we shouldn't be talking about policy
213things in close session we should be talking about them out here and the um I'm not even certain that and I I don't know this but has our legal attorney has our legal counsel talked with our Title 9 coordinator about this kind of thing and I think we should be having him present now I know his supervisor is sitting right over there but um his supervisor did not attend this training um Mr Henry did attend this training that um we're also going to be required to follow both both sets of guidelines depending on when the incident occurred so we're going to have to follow what was in place in 2020 and if appropriate we will follow What's um when appropriate and we'll have to follow others in 2024 so it's it's my understanding from this
214that there is nothing that we're going to hear in that room that can't be said out here because it's not talking about um he he's not unless he wants to give us guidance that says hold off don't do these until we get the final rule then he can tell us that in close session if he wants that's his legal advice but as far as the the updates that's not close session material in my opinion I'd like to hear it here thank you Mr gille we'll carry on now with our legal Stadium report first off I'd like to congratulate Miss Walker uh she was named as Vice I might can make a motion that we hear the title excuse me excuse me I'm speaking now you you were done thank you and we're breaking the rules
215again thank you m crille you're third time today yeah take me out don't miss Walker as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted I'd like to congratulate you on being named Vice pres or vice chairman of the um Legion Stadium committee and I'd like to hear your yeah absolutely and I would love to hear your report please thank you SAR um sorry did you have something to say Mr no I'm just passing um thank you Mr chair um we had a uh got why have I got title n here this is the weirdest thing at Legion Stadium meeting we had uh was it two weeks ago Thursday I believe so they gave us an update on two things yeah here's why it's title n is important because we had a title 9 audit
216that basically told the district that um we had a couple of facilities new han high school and hogard of women's softball that were that needed to be updated to bring up to code to bring up the title n um uh improvements so uh we because we are on we work with the city of Wilmington new han high school and the city in the county in the the school district um we are only going to we only got the update for new han High School's sof women's softball um they are going we heard a rep um a report from Matt branet from ls3p they basically told us the timeline and what the changes were going to be to the Godwin Stadium which is where the the girl the Hanover girls play um the start date for
217improvements will be May 13th and they will they should end by the end of December they're going to do uh batting cage um they're going to redo batting cage and the retaining wall um they're going to put new modular units in there instead of the underground uh dresser room they had which apparently was not very good it was very old um they are going to uh let's see the dugouts um they're going to they're going to replace concrete block the concrete blocks and paint them the bench system um is going to be mounted on the wall wall the helmet and and they'll have bat uh storage uh they will also have a small storage facility and a safety fence at third first and third base um they will be replacing the sound system um because
218that is outdated there will be new foul pole a new scoreboard um replacement and new batting tunnel um I'm trying to give you all the good details basically they're going to redo it oh an interior HVAC for humidity control uh as well so they're going to really do a lot of um dates to the um to improve the the the women's softball for new Handover and we hope that makes them more competitive with the um with the the other schools um and uh that is like I said it's going to happen and be finished by the end of December so we're looking forward to that um the next update anybody have any questions about that wonderful yeah isn't it yeah I mean they're doing they're doing a great job um and hopefully Handover girls are
219going to kick but anyway so the next update we have is for the turf the legion Stadium turf update uh we originally wanted well Legion commission approved that and we wanted to get it started in January but I think Sports was still going on and so they ended up um moving that uh what did we say let me look at my notes I was going to give these last week y'all but now they're still here now I'm at the mercy of my handwriting um so they put bids to contract it took a really that was another reason it took a really long time when you put a bid out you you've got to get people to actually return bids to you and that was another reason for the delay um they got two bids and
220it looks like they came in they chose Spirit Turf and it came under bid um they tend to put out the bids a little bit higher just in case but they actually were under Bid And so whatever's left over they're going to return to the city and the county and the school district um the lifespan will be for 8 to 10 years so we are at the next meeting in July what we're hoping to do is look at um Improvement plans going forward so we can kind of start saving money up come 8 to 10 years we can replace the turf again uh let's see um it's going to be striped and it's going to have the logo on it uh and it is going to be a lot better than it is right now
221um let's see what else I've got here oh so they should they said it should be done they're going to wait it's going to be done in June because before it was December like I said they got the delay and so it's going to be in June now so hopefully come you know the next uh season we're going to have brand new Turf and uh it is going to be awesome because you know that's Hanover's home field um that means we're also not going to have graduation at Handover we're going to be in Brogden is that correct for anybody that's listening I guess we're going to be in Brogden instead because of the turf um let's see but like I said next meeting is in July we're going to actually look at a I think
222she said five years Capital Improvement plan for the three um three entities and then we'll report that next time anybody have any questions excellent report Miss Walker than Walker and now thank you was it ever discussed why we don't have graduation to uccw anyhow all the high schools it's so convenient it's air conditioning yeah it's air conditioned it's it's just covered wasn't it a money issue sends a strong message back the seriousness Eddie would probably know I think it was a money issue let's maybe D I think it was during Co it was during Co and the principles liked it and that's why we continued with it it was principl liked it like at the schools and so do the families and students okay well come I would tend to agree because my children graduated
223and UNCW was chaos I'm saying it was hard to find remember I mean it was a lot so I kind of like the the the home the home field advantage it was definitely cool so if two high schools wanted to go to could they go it's kind of expensive they have an option just curious fair question but we hadn't planned for that this year you know graduations within a couple weeks so we would have to well well I mean this year yeah we would have to get with the the principles and see what they want that's not a decision that we um have made they once covid came and then um uh we continued with the and they no one said we wanted to go back so that's where we it would have to be
224all or or not I mean I prefer is bord do they charge for that Dr Fest really and we're going to carry on with Miss Walker for it's a Miss Walker show right now which is great but yeah next we have task force M Walker I got the next one to y'all yeah I know you're all three got um so I had presented it last meeting we were supposed to give all these updates last time and I did kind of send out little sheet with some statistics on it um if you don't have it that's okay I'll send it to you again if you need it I just want to say I want to first of all thank you fellow board members for your support and wanted to keep this work of the committee going
225um I think I got a heads up that we might be making an official committee soon um we believe this is the most important work that we can be doing and we can't stop doing it you know for the students that need it the most um well I believe we definitely should be celebrating our successes because we have a lot of them um our work is far from being done and that's the reason for the task force and the first place um unfortunately the is there's the issue of disparity and poverty and inequality in our schools for which our County with the wealth of our County um in Geographic size we really it just doesn't make sense to me that we have schools that are so far apart even though we do have great schools
226and I'm not going to say we don't but um so for example we have over 1500 schools in in the state um based on EO and based on eogs we have some of the very highest performing schools right here in our County and we have and that's something to be very proud of um but we also have a couple that are towards the bottom and so with the work of the task force you know that's what we're hoping to kind of keep you know we're probably about at a year now um June will be our I think our year I think um and we've got some really good ideas out of that um let's see so um we're attempting to address you know aligning with our uh pillars of our strategic plan especially engaging with
227our Community Partners but it also touches on all of them which is safy academics School environment support of staff and equity and inclusion uh in June like I said we're going to Mark our one year anniversary we've talked to over the past year we've talked to principles teachers and parents um who work in these schools and they consistently tell us about the same challenges and I know y'all been them at them um and you you've heard it too so um they tell us they need more staff more qualified humans in the building to deal with the a lot of the childhood trauma and um that the kids endure um you know you know being in you know these kind of high poverty schools that we have um it really just compounds and it and and
228it it adds to the trauma of our students so I mean I know I harp on it all the time and probably put folks like hate me talking about the trauma part but they're it's clear so all the members that have been there you've seen it you've heard from staff members they're all pretty much saying the same thing so the last one was their teacher Round Table um and so we have split into three three subcommittees just for folks out there and for our board here members that don't don't know we have a leadership a community resources and a mental health subcommittee and most of the time my time has been spent with the mental health subcommittee uh we have distilled our discussions into six broad categories um but some of them go beyond obviously
229mental health you tend to do that when you get into something you kind of like you just expand into other things so um we really should con um and like I say it's on the sheets so we have come up with some ideas um that maybe could help you know going forward um expanding prek is a goal I think that we really are we want to look at and I know the county is with us on that we do have a county commissioner on the task force that has always been supportive of pre um uh developing summer schools and tutoring programs to ensure that third graders read at grade level this is the uh this is the grade where children go from learning to read to reading to learn uh Reinventing two two of our
230chronically low perform school so they can succeed which were designated magnets because I know we've had this magnet discussion and it's a little confusing but I have since found out they're not really true magnets but we've been calling them that um but the whole idea was to help them you know get um get uh students into the the classroom there um we want to create a mechanism to support teachers in our high poverty schools so they're encouraged to stay and develop a positive culture um train teachers on classroom management and I know we do some of this but I'm only reason I'm bringing out is because these are the the schools that actually need more attention so that's why I'm saying that's what we're working on uh training teachers in the classroom management of Highly
231traumatized kids and having adding behavioral support specialists in some of them our schools and we were looking at mimicking what Brunswick County does they do a program called BR Brunswick County guarantee I believe um we have a a task force member who is at Kate fear and he has already had some discussions with brunso County about how they do their program we would like to bring it perhaps to new hand over maybe call it new head of Our Hope um so that all our graduating seniors have an opportunity to go to college um and then we just have to be creative when we work out funding issues you know we have people in the room when we have these meetings that are well connected we have chamber folks in there um and I think we're
232going to probably revamp our our our list going forward you know it's been a year um and we and we've gone into these interesting kind of directions and so we really want people on the task force that want to be involved with building these programs up for our kids so um I guess I'll just say as an elected um board in service to our community at large I believe it's imperative that we help our students we all have a stake in this whether we have children in schools or not um regardless of the neighborhood we live in because I know we all are at different ages in our in our lives my kids are grown up um and so I welcome the board's continued support so I mean I know we've got a meeting come
233up in June I'm not not sure how the rotation cycle went last time but you're on the committee with me now so I would like to invite a couple more board members for the next June meeting um that's okay with you Mr your chair um but anyway I could go I could go on and on anybody has any questions please please get you know get in touch with me and I'm happy to answer them well thank you Miss Walker that's a lot y'all I'm sorry it's a lot don't don't you know just keep going because you got one more to go oh okay let me just uh roll this back here I got another one yeah we're flying now so Head Start is the next one so Miss Smiles actually sent me another update where
234I was she texted me and told me um so the the attachment is already on there for everyone to see the report I don't have to read all that to you um but she had given me a list of things kind of highlights if you if you will um and these go back pretty far but I don't think we've had an update in a while so uh she said um she sent me an email on the night said that kindergarten transitioning night was held on March 7th eight Elementary feeder schools particip at in the event Freeman Alderman College Park Mary C Williams Forest Hills Sunset Winter Park and wesboro they have over 100 students that will visit the following schools in April which obviously just passed which is Freeman Forest Hills Snipes College Park and
235Sunset Park prek ensures that every Rising kindergarten student will be registered for kindergarten Senator Lee visited Johnson prek headart Center this past past month to learn more about our partnership with appseed which provides free learning devices for Johnson prek Head Start Center going on year two exploring funding and options for expanding seedling learning devices to all prek Sites so that's great um they decided to share that they have a hosting an early this happened on May 3rd mind you but hosting an early child at educator Symposium um they just I guess I'll we'll get an update next month on how that went um it just says that new han County schools pre-k leaders they're presenting so I I look forward to hearing that update um Community announcement uh student placement for the school year 2425
236ongoing recruitment please apply for prek um at the enham County School's website uh let's see returning children rising to four-year-old classrooms are receiving acceptance letters they are awarded a $30,000 smart art grant for the year 2425 so that's great I'm almost done Governor Cooper came to visit on April 16th um Brooklyn Art Museum Academy concert was held and and there was a huge parent turnout and returning children for the next school year have received acceptance letters I think I already said that but they're still working on placing children uh they received their funding from May the 1st to june3 2024 and um it it says it's linked in the report if you want to click on it and Rising kindergarten children have been enrolled in kindergarten for the next school year so that's the update
237from Shannon smiles and for Head Start that's a lot but I don't think I've talked about it in a long time so that's a lot any questions I don't have I don't know if I can answer them but thank you m Miss Walker it was great to hear that I just will point out as I always do that of the enrolled students 256 um where'd it go where'd it go where' it Go single parents are 192 that's 75% of the students involved in this program I don't think we can continue to ignore the fact of of that in in in dealing with things that we deal with in the school district so Mr wilbor what does that have to do with the work that we do can't turn away a student who has a single
238parent just I don't think she's meaning for us to do that M Bradford I just think that was okay yes ma'am okay okay all right um so one more m m Walker I I need to make a motion now before the meeting is over and I don't want to get cut off by 9 o' let me just finish Walker I want to thank Miss Walker for all three reports thank you very much for that Miss crille okay so I would like to reconsider the motion that we made um reconsider the motion to accept pointer Sproul as our attorney the and it says that um I can't interrupt the conversation going on so I I waited till you told me to go ahead um the does need a second debate it varies can we amend it
239no vote by the majority so I would like to make that motion to reconsider the decision to use pointer spr as our attorney oh so it can't be me okay I she she she voted with you last will you do that voted with you last time too all three of you you voted for it last time okay so then I would like to make another motion to resend the decision that we made about this temporary policy the um some teachers are already emailing in going um I'm evaluated on having diversity in my classroom and so um is that mean the principal is going to come in and give them um bad ratings because they don't have those things up um it's part of our um it says part of the curriculum but the so flags
240from foreign countries you know should be allowed in there so I'd like to reconsider that discussion and I did vote no to that and I didn't bring it up so you did vote no so you can't reconsider that again again if you vote just real simply if you vote against something you can't try to revote that the same thing again against it you have to vote for it if you vote for it then you can reconsider why can't I bring up pointer spru I voted for it and I you can't vote because you're trying to reconsider It Was Defeated you can't why can't tell us the rule on that Mr please explain that to her reconsider means you can ask to be talked about again and I was for it and I was outvoted so
241I'm asking to bring it back up and now you're telling me I can't bring up the motion on the other one because I voted against it so which is it I if I vote Yes I can if I vote no I can't Mr would you please explain it to yeah it's not a matter of voting yes or no it's a matter of whether you were in the prevailing group or in the group that did not Prevail and if you're in the group that did not Prevail in the vote then you cannot make the motion to reconsider okay uh carrying on uh we are going now to close session or or I will entertain a motion to go to close session thank to General stute 143 31811 the following purpose to prevent disclosure of information is
242privileged or confidential pursuant to General statute 115 402 and not consider public record within the meaning of chapter 132 General statutes and to consider the qualifications competence performance character Fitness conditions of appointment or conditions of initial appointment of individual or individuals of individual employed or considered for employment with school system or to hear or investigate a complaint charge or grievance by or against any individual appoint uh employee we have a motion is there a second second first and second any discussion all in favor please signify by saying I I all opposed carry 70 we are in Clos session yeah um I don't have a long time yeah we have we have 20 minutes right now guys so to get through yes you're right we are absolutely corre thank you so much e e e three
243four five back in open six all right we are back in Open Session because of time I am going to make the decision that we're going to skip over uh correspondence um just quickly announcements there will be a policy meeting on Tuesday May 21st 10:00 uh there will be an agenda review on May 28th 2: p.m. all this information is online here and new han County Board of Education will hold a June regular board meeting on June 4th uh at 5:00 p.m. curriculum meeting on May 20th I'm sorry curriculum meeting at May 20th Mee on May 20th thank you Mr Prill at this point I would entertain a motion to adjourn so moved is there a second all in favor please signify by saying I I I all opposed thank you we are dismissed all
244can I have the the thing the paper the paper