001Welcome to the August 3rd committee of the whole meeting for the Big Spring School District. It's 7:01. I'd like to call the meeting to order at this time. Do we have any public comment for the committee of the whole meeting? Hearing none, we'll move on to presentations. Dr. Kins, high school principal, uh is going to give us some information on targeted support and improvement for some of our students plan. Um so, Dr. Kins, thank you. First of all, we're getting ready for school and second of all, I think you still have what 21 days. Not that anybody's counting, but I I just noticed it's like 3 weeks from tomorrow or something. So, um, thank you for everything you've done and please give us an update on our school improvement plan. Thank you. >> All right.
002Well, thank you first of all uh for the opportunity to speak to tonight underneath the circumstances. I'm here like that, but hey, we are who we are and we got to continue to improve. So, you know, the core mission when we think about things in regards to what I'm going to present is is our kids to be career ready upon graduation. And so, when we look at this targeted support and improvement plan, um, one of the things you're going to hear me talk about is least restrictive environment, which is one of the focus areas of always with our students with special uh, disabilities uh, in terms of keeping them out in the regular population as much as pos possible and getting that curriculum. So, um we're now on TSI for the third year. Um areas
003we need to grow on this current plan um is our achievement and our growth in both math and ELA, English language arts, as well as our attendance in terms of our students uh with disabilities group. It's it's that group that is uh kept us on a plan now for the third year. Um we have the first two years been able to remove some of the things that have put us on a TSI plan and we continue to do so. um this year as you look back at some of the the areas the reasons you'll see a 23% gap between our students um with IEPs and our regular ed all or I should say our all student group and that's part of what when you look at your TSI plan or you look at writing you
004see where those areas exist and how you can improve them and in addition to that you'll see that there's a gap in our in our attendance of 11.1% So when we look at our strengths, I won't read all those bullets. I know I believe you received the plan as well. Um look at a strength particularly in algebra. Um there's a couple of reasons that algebra has seen the significant growth that it has has. And um two of those are one is that we've broken algebra down into two courses for some of our students. Uh so they can get that now what will be over two years with all of our four-year courses. Uh whereas in the past it would have been uh a blocked class for an entire year potentially and allow them to get
005more engrossed in the content and learn it over a longer period of time. In addition to that, we did add co-eing to uh our tested areas last year, which we'll continue with, but that was another addition in the past year. And um we saw some growth in our algebra in terms of our summit of assessment scores. And if you were can't really compare this data in the TSI plan to our last year's standardized tests scores, but when I've I've looked at those since we received them over the summer, we've saw we've seen some improvement there as well. um you know our students with disability subgroup I mean there's a 26% uh growth in that area and the attendance in that subgroup area they grew 5.1% from one year to the next but we definitely have
006our challenges maybe >> like a remote >> yeah like a battery like a clicker all right There we go. >> And as I alluded to before is that is that gap between the all student group and the students with disability subgroup. That's that's a a thing we need to continue to try and close. It's great to see our all student group achieve, but we also want to see our students with disabilities achieve as well, which I believe is addressed in our plan directly. Um, we also know that we have students that have barriers both inside and outside the school that inhibit their ability to focus or even attend school. So we need to continue to work on that as well because the first part of uh achieving in school is being in school. So when
007we look at our goals, really break our goals down into uh two areas. Um goal one is looking at that co-eing for academic growth. So, uh, last year we started co-eing 9th and 10th grade English algebra 1. And although biology is not included in TSI, we we do also co-e in biology as it a it is a keystone tested area. So, we're going to continue to work with that area as well as um improve our attendance and engagement. Um, kids aren't in school. It's sort of hard to improve. So, uh, la two years ago when I started, we began to start what was called a student response team. Continued to build on that last year, which includes our psychologists, social workers, counselors, administrators, um, anyone that can really come to the table and help us
008one by one talk about kids and how we can make one kid at a time uh, remove some barriers to help them achieve in school. In addition to that, this year is our special aid case managers will also be monitoring um regularly the students attendance that are on their case loads. So that's an expectation that's been set forth and we're looking for a 5% increase in daily attendance in that subgroup um in this plan. Additionally, I I I didn't have it in my notes, but one one thing that we have this year in the blue there is that all these courses are going to be fullyear courses now. And our teachers will will be able to progress monitor within the classroom, which without getting into the minutia of that has been a barrier when they
009didn't have a student in a particular class to find time to pull them out to see how they're doing. They're missing instruction. while we're pulling them out to monitor how they're doing. So now they're losing while we're trying to figure out if they gained. So we've made some changes there as well from a professional development standpoint. Uh as the TSI plan is asks you to call out is how are you going to improve like what are you going to do from a professional development standpoint and working uh with Mrs. Donado? Um, we've decided we're going to continue to work with our our co-teers are going to continue to work as a group as they did last year as well as uh they're on teams of two. They'll work together in both settings and continue to
010improve how they teach. Uh, so within co-eing, there's different ways that you can model as well as um being able to learn from each other. Second to that is the use of AS web plus which we've you know we've been using but we're going to um as I alluded to before we're going to continue with progress monitoring and improving that area with the understanding that we need to continue to make sure that we have the right goals written and that we're we're assessing the correct goals and therefore we can see how growths are occurring and if they're not how we can intervene. So co-eing, we continue to see our our students with disabilities, that subgroup, get some of that regular curriculum that they may not have gotten in the past because we've now provided that
011support of that co-teer in the classroom. So, it's been uh if done right, which we have spent a lot of time and energy in ensuring we do, this provides some of our students opportunities they may not have otherwise received in the past. So, we'll continue to work on that. And then in addition to that is that tier system uh to address truency by adding that that case manager in there to continue to look at that their group of kids to monitor not just their grades and their progress and their academics but how how are they doing in terms of their attendance. So, in closing, um, you know, we're going to focus on the the co-eing, proactive attendance, and, um, we're just going to continue to address these significant challenges, and it's part of what we're
012going to do regardless if we have this TSI designation or not. It's what's right for our kids. And it's not just to meet the benchmarks. It's to make sure we provide that safe environment for our kids and also the supports to help them grow. So at this point um after should you approve the plan then it goes to PTE. PTE says yeah this is good or no you need to approve it. Any improvements or changes we need to make we will and then we'll execute the plan as approved. >> Thank you Mr. Kins. A few uh comments. I think I know the answers to some of these but uh to make sure everyone's aware. So this subgroup how many students would we classify total is in this group? But I I don't want the exact
013number. Can you just give me a round number? 600 200? >> No, no, no, no. So, our students with disabilities is a percentage of our population to So, to be a subgroup has to be over 20 students. So, I can tell you it's over 20. >> Okay. >> And these students with disabilities, some of them are physical, some are mental, some are educational, and some may be family support from home. Is that correct? this this the students with disabilities designation is based off of students with IEPs. That's how they that's how they determine that designation. So like 504 plans would not be included. >> Okay. >> As that as that subgroup as determined by the Department of Education, >> but we did improve we did improve at the same rate as some of the general
014population we could say, >> right? And and you got to remember a lot of the data they're providing us is old data. So the attendance data is sometimes two years old, >> right? to and then you're comparing something from several years and we're we're already making adjustments because we have data that's more accurate, more current that are are making helping us make decisions. Anyway, >> some of the students might have um English as a I don't know whether I'm saying this right, Dr. Bronte, a second language. >> Yeah, English language learners, >> right? So they may be I don't want to say behind but they may be challenged because they don't have um English as their primary language and so they may have difficulty reading questions doing some of the assignments doing whatever until we
015bring them up speeded English because most of the tests and the assessments are based upon English. Correct. >> That's correct. And one of the areas they look at in TSI, one of there are several areas they look at in terms of designation. We do not have enough students just in as English language learners to be a subgroup, but some of those students could certainly have disabilities that would be in the subgroup that puts us on a TSI plan. So that could be a barrier as well. Yes. >> Right. So there are many factors that go into whether a student has disabilities and and yes they form a subgroup but each student could be unique in what their disability is and like you said it's not 504 plans it's individ individual education plans for each of
016these students and so when they face the tests there may be a I don't want to say fear but there may be a concern of how I approach this test and how well I can do on it before they and answer his first question. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's part of our job is is not okay, maybe they don't do well on the test, but hey, you might take tests in life. We need to help you learn how to >> get get rid of that or learn from that anxiety to improve. And maybe you don't pass the test, but maybe that's an area of proof. We can't measure that per se, but there's more to the test like you you just alluded than just taking the test, >> right? >> The other variables. The
017the other factor I thought from from teaching was some students the motivational level that they have um may not be as strong as other students depending upon their academic goals, depending upon their career path, depending upon where they're at. They're they struggle and then if they get too far behind then why go to school? So there's that vicious cycle of keeping them motivated, keep them involved, keep them in clubs, keep them in activities, but also make sure they're learning reading, writing, and math. Absolutely. >> Comments from the board. >> I have a question. >> Yes, Mr. Shay. >> Um I think was the goal setting page. One of the on items was um it said the team analyze the students to determine the best learning environment. And I was just kind of curious what kind
018of time frame that process um took. I what I'm concerned about is a uh student obviously struggling. How long do they sit in that struggling state before the team decides that they need to move to a different type of learning environment? >> It's happened in many different places. So, um it could be our student response team meeting where we see some of this going on. We make we can make the changes pretty quickly. Yeah. Um it's very fluid and particularly with this subgroup, you can make changes at any time. So you have a student with an IEP, you can make the changes at any time. You then if you need to make adjustment to their IEP itself, but I can speak on the good side, particularly I'm thinking of an instance last year um we
019had a student that was in what we call a pull out class where they were pulled out to a special ed room for their English and I would say a quarter into the year we we were moving them into a co-taught classroom because they were progressing. So it can work both ways and uh that's part of the case manager's job is to do that progress monitoring is make those adjustments whether it's smaller things that need to be learned based on goals or if it's a class change that needs to happen that communication just occurs that can occur daily quick process so it's not sitting in limbo waiting it >> it shouldn't need to happen that way >> no that's right >> that's what I was looking for >> yeah if if that happens we haven't
020done something correctly I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'm saying we we, you know, that's something that we need to be aware of so we can rectify and then not make the same mistake. >> How many of the students would you say develop behavioral issues because they're struggling? Is there's a connection? Yes. No. >> I would I would it depends what you describe as behavior. I would say apathy. uh you alluded to in terms of of shutting down more so than out and these overt behaviors. I don't we don't see that as much at least especially at the high school level with with terms of frustration and quitting. Yeah. Frustration and outward behavior. Not so much. Now we have a a population of students that are in emotional support that maybe that's something that happens
021with them but it's not a large population. it would say more to the shutdown and we just need to continue to coach them up and that's why we we have to have so many adults and people involved but find the right person to help them. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Myers. >> Yes. And and correct me if I'm wrong here, but you're saying attendance of these identified kids is a lot worse than the regular ed students. >> It's worse. I wouldn't say I don't know a lot but it's we're it's bad enough for the state to say hey this this needs to improve. The other thing the state looks at and um I didn't talk about tonight it's not in the slide deck is so within a TSI plan they they don't expect so this particular
022subgroup they don't expect them to perform at the same level of the all student group but there is a there's a a threshold that they give you when you get the letter from PTE in December um and they tell you hey you're on TSI next year um because you didn't meet this goal and you were 62% and the goal was 64%. That's a lot different than being 40%. You're still not right. You're still not that benchmark, but they give you the benchmark of where you where their cut off was. How they determine that? I honestly couldn't tell you. They tell us what it is. And Okay. >> And the co-eing is presumed to be a one of the solutions to that to help that the co-eing. Yes. Rather than >> Yeah. I mean, when you
023go If you can expose a student to the regular ed curriculum that they might have otherwise not gotten because maybe they would have had a special education teacher only teaching them biology. Let's say now they have a biology a teacher that's certified in biology teaching them the biology. Oh, and by the way, we're going to bring the special ed teacher who's also highly qualified in biology to teach together. It's win-win. And I mean just not just the academic side of but when you think about it if the student has been in pulled out and pulled out all these years and all of a sudden they get pulled in and included the self-confidence and their self-efficacy grows as well. So that because now oh now I'm getting included again and it's not like they're missing out.
024We do still have students that do benefit from being in the a pulled out classroom because they're not at a level where they're necessarily prepared for that regular curriculum at a pace that we offer it. They are still getting some of that curriculum. They're just not getting at the same pace. But that number is substantially smaller than when I showed up here. I can tell you that. Not because of me, because of we because of what we did to to make some changes at the high school. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Corin. >> Yeah, I have some experience with the uh being in a support group that goes to outside the normal classroom and then being introduced back into the normal classroom. And when I was going through that, my fear was that I was
025slowing down the rest of the students in the normal classroom. Do we make sure that the normal classroom is still operating at the speed that the the non-challenged learners can learn at? I mean, because I don't want to I don't want to be handicapping, so to speak, any of our faster learners um because we put in some slower learners back into the class. Um and that that can cause some issues, too. Like if uh I'm a slower learner and I take a little bit longer to read something or I stutter while I'm reading it. Um, sometimes that can uh be redirected back at you through bullying and just name calling and other things. So, are we making sure we're we're doing this in a way to make sure that the general education students are not
026being affected by the the learner coming into the classroom or how do you have any data on that? >> Yeah, the pacing really shouldn't change much at all really. The idea is to have that other support in the room. So when co when you have co-eing, you have different strategies or different models that you're using. So one strategy might be or one model might be I'm the biology teacher. I'm going to teach the last part of the lesson today and the special ed teacher is going to be assisting students as they're going around the room. In a lot of situations, there's two things that you will not notice. You will not notice who the regular ed biology teacher is and who the special ed biology teacher is because they both teach. you won't notice who
027the students with IEPs are and who the students without IEPs are because everybody gets the same attention. That's needed. So, if we have, let's just say there's a skill in particularly that was assessed and well, this group of five students didn't get it as well, we might have some time in class where one of the teachers, doesn't matter which, can take this group over to the side. They can work on that skill and assess. And this group can either be doing some previewing or accelerating or um some enrichment to you know so this group over here is not getting behind. They're getting actually caught up if you will and this group's just getting enriched. And um there's many classes I go in when I go and observe I don't know who the students are with
028IEPs and who aren't because that's not the role is the role is we're teaching kids doesn't there's the labels are removed and um the the acceptance piece what I've seen in my career has become one of which uh I know what you're speaking about and I I understand it. I don't just don't see it as much and I don't want to think that I'm blind to it because sometimes you look for it. Um and I I just don't I I just see more inclusive activity. I just think it's become more normal to be just included and where you go for your class here or there doesn't matter because they're moving all the time. So, not everybody's remembering anybody else's schedule because, you know, they're off down to the A department. That kid's going over there
029to art. And so, it it's not as understanding your question and concern. It certainly is. Um, I haven't seen it. >> It does seem like the way we're doing it now is a better way. Um, I was just trying to make sure we're not putting students in positions that I had to go through and others in my my generation had to go through with special education. >> Right. Not great point. >> Very good. Any other comments from the board? >> Thank you, Mr. K, for not only your work, but your team. we work, as you said, um and helping all of our students succeed, no matter what their abilities, disabilities, success, um those things. It's it's not easy because each student is unique, but we need to meet their needs in terms of going forward.
030So, thank you. >> Yep. Thank you very much. >> Okay. Um finishing up the committee of the whole, is there any other items for the committee? >> Yes. Mrs. Uh those please. >> Yeah, I have a couple things I'd like to talk to the board about. Um in relation to the cafeteria account mainly um my thought process on this got redirected again as I got a letter in the mail with 74 cents postage on it. Um which is an inoice. Um, if you remember back when we approved the Washington DC trips, we had graciously been given the transportation for our students and it just so happened that I knew a particular senior who had not gotten email and I said, "Can we just please open this back up one more time to make sure we
031build our bus um because we have a free bus. Let's put some studios on it." So that got a little bit of uh concern that this was going to cost a little more money and in the end it was only going to cost a little extra money for snacks and food which brings me to the cafeteria account. I have suggested during that process of doing that trip that we use some of our excess money from our cafeteria account to cover the lunches and some snacks for that trip because there's not much which we'll get to. Uh there's some issues with that account. Uh, so it was to my surprise I got rather than notice that, oh, by the way, good news. We got 10 more kids to go along on that trip, you know, verbally
032in an email or or whatever, I got an invoice in the mail for $15, which does tell me that 10 extra kids went because I got a bill for 10 snacks. So, which is well worth it. I'm so glad we got to send 10 extra kids and I have my check that I'll be handing over. Um, I just wish we could have done it in a way that was still a donation, which is how it was intended in the first place. So, um, but that brings me to the cafeteria account, which is where that money was supposed to come from. Um, at the end of May, I reached out and talked to the treasurer about her support and asking the business manager to work towards having our cafeteria checking account start making interest. Um, I
033noticed that its balance was up, I think the ending balance, the last one I had seen was around $300,000 and we were not getting any interest on that. Um, it actually is at ACNB where we had when I came on the board through some changes, we started getting 1% interest on that account, those accounts, those checking accounts, which was a significant amount of money for our district. Um, but this particular account, for some reason, I had brought it up before and it just never got transitioned to make any interest. So, here we are having $300,000 sitting in an account with zero interest. So, I brought this up again. Uh, nothing really happened. So, on June 9th, I sent an email out to the treasurer and business manager asking them to please look into this. It's
034been on my radar. It concerns me that we're not doing the best we can with our resources. and yet her concerned about a$150 a kid for snacks to go for on a brief bus ride for a wonderful trip. But thankfully now after some time and back and forth with the business office and the bank, it does seem that we will be getting 1% interest on that account now, which I think is overdue. Um, if we were going to continue to have around 300,000 in that account monthly, that's going to be $3,000 extra for us to put towards our children's food and our our cafeterias and supplies and, you know, buying new equipment. Even if we only had 100,000 in there, that's thousands of dollars. And to me, that's way better than zero. So, I'm thankful
035that we got that accomplished. If we had been forceful and got that done two and a half years ago, we might have gained another four of 8,000 if we were moving along that line. But that's behind us. As of right now, actually, our account balance for the cafeteria account, if you looked at agendas, is over $1.6 million. Um, since I've been on the board, I brought up different ideas. One that really bothers me is that we use disposable plastic silverware every day and they go in the trash. Uh during COVID, the regular silverware went away. They apparently no longer exist on the properties. Um I would like to see that change. And according to the Sharaw's manager in the meeting we had, he thinks it would be a wash. It's going to cost something for
036silverware. Some of it gets thrown away. it cost more to wash it in the dishwasher, but it would be about the same as having plastic with silverware, but yet that has not that has not happened and we are not moving to make that happen. So, I would like the whole board to be aware of that. It's something that serves me. Um, other things I brought up that were not did not gain traction were possible employee bonuses because our cafeteria employees are not part of the school district as far as being an employee of the school district. So, they do not receive the state retirement like our other employees do and they make a small wage and they have a summers hall um and they're not making a paycheck during that time. So, a small bonus
037maybe at the end of the year or at Christmas time would be a big deal to those employees and to maybe do a lot to help them return that next year. I noticed we are also looking for some employees in that um area this year. Also, I talked about doing a lower dollar lunch. You know, maybe do the dollar lunch for a year since we have excessive funds. Um, we could we could afford that and we could give our families a little relief. And also, of course, we did the field trip um snacks, which was good. Um, and then also I looked into how much debt we have. We do have a lot of families that have debt to our lunch program, and that's something that maybe we could consider. But as a back on
038the cafeteria account, generally speaking, these are just to they're not to make money. It's just for us to feed our kids and to keep the equipment going. Over co a lot changed. In fact, it's such a a problem to make too much money on them that each year we fill out a child nutrition financial report with the state. Um I asked for these. I got some of them. might have some gaps in what I received, but I was able to see that in the year 1819, for example, we transferred 772,000 from our general fund over to the cafeteria fund just to sustain it and to do our big um redo of the new bill kitchen. That year, we still ended up with $550,000 in cash in the cafeteria account. So, we probably overshot that amount
039that they they transferred. Um so therefore we didn't have to do a corrective action plan that year with too much funds. Um however things really changed during COVID and in the 2122 school year. That year we made $492,000 on our food program and that year we ended with $892,000 in that account. It's only gone up from there. That particular year though on our financial report that we have to give the state we told them with our extra money we hadn't adjusted. They they justify keeping three months expenses. They're okay with that. At the bottom of the sheet, you just subtract that off your balance, but we still had roughly four $400,000 to justify. So, to justify that, we said we were going to make some purchases. We were planning on buying a heater for the
040boosters, a mobile heated cabinet, convection ovens for middle school and flat elementary, and a dishwasher, and a food truck for $100,000. and we were going to redo the middle school kitchen. Most of that does not happen. Um the next year we made $228,000. We showed 1.1 million in the account. We justified it again with very similar things in putting a food truck which that year we estimated would cost us 120,000 and uh we were still looking at the doing a middle school kitchen renovation which we just put down the number I think that was left of the money we had to justify which was $390,000. As far as I know we're still waiting to get our middle school kitchen redone. do know that we just bought some dishwashers and I'm hoping that that will help
041us be ready to round the bend to go back to silverware instead of disposable plastic wear. Um, not only is that good for our earth, it also teaches our children good stewardship. So I think that's very important one. Um, so now, you know, fast forward, the last report that I had, I think was from 23 24, you know, and we were saying the same things that we're going to redo the middle school kitchen. We might have given up on the food truck at that point. Um, but that never happened, obviously. So, according to this meeting's cafeteria report, it looks like we will be up this year about $240,000 again. So, and the balance is sitting around $1.6 million. So, it keeps growing. We didn't do the things we told the state we were going to
042do, which apparently has no consequence, which is shocking to me. Um, and another summer has passed and we haven't redone the middle school kitchen. Um, so I guess my question is, what do we plan to do with this money? What are we going to do good for our students and our families? Um, one of the options on these little reports is that we can lower lunch prices. when I brought that up, it was illreceived by the, you know, administrators I sat down with, but I think that would be the reason of it. Um, so I would like to see what ideas you have, what ideas do you have to improve our school lunch program with this excess money. Um, and then this year, what are we going to claim that we're going to do with
043the extra? Because last year we had a good amount sitting in there. It keeps growing. We're going to have more money. We're going to have to tell the state what we're doing. What is that going to be? Those are my questions to the board and I would be happy to hear suggestions. I'm sure administration will get as well before they just decide what they're going to put down there without any in input from the board. Um, so in the meantime, I do I still believe that it's important to be good stewards of what we have in that account and make that interest as we can, but I think we also need to consider what we're going to do with it so that we can do a good job for our students and give them the
044best interest. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Mrs. Booth. Any comments from the board on any items. >> Okay. Dr. Bronte, can we um have our food service company look at some of these items at least and and maybe report back what their needs are or what their plans are for equipment or what really needs to be done in the middle school kitchen. My suggestion would be that the board come up with a list of potential interests for that. There are legalities and structures to some of the things that were mentioned and they have been explained. Um but once we come up with a list um then the experts can say yes you can do that with that money. No, you cannot do that with my money. Uh I'll report out to the board
045and I'll have to ask um Mrs. Lance, but I am almost certain that the cafeteria and Mrs. lands sought out approval to cover the funding for the field trip. Um, but it was not approved based on the legalities and the utilization of those monies. So, it wasn't as if we didn't try. It just there are strict guidelines on how and what you can do with that with that money. So, if the board wanted to say, "Okay, I want to do XYZ ABC." I would take those six things. I would then cross reference them with whether they fit within legal boundaries. I could report back to the board and say, "Okay, out of these six wishes, you can do two of them." And then the board could discuss how they want to go about doing two
046of them. >> That makes sense. >> Yes, Mr. Sh. >> Thank you for all the research. This is very good information. I I um it was very thorough. I enjoyed hearing all of it. I really liked the idea of um possibly discounting the students using that to offset maybe um 50 cents a dollar. I don't know what but I would need more information as to how many meals a year, how many students purchase. I mean we need to analyze that whole area. Would it be possible to maybe I I do >> that was one of the suggestions that was brought up and in the explanation there's a minimum threshold that you can charge and this year we were actually highly encouraged I'll use the word encouraged it's not the most applicable um and also accountable
047for holding our lunches steady. So that that is something that we would have to get into the weeds about and we would have to get on page four and five of that explanation to understand why. Um but from the people that are managing these scenarios and the legalities from PTE and the federate the national standards um you can't just discount your lunch prices to $1, >> right? There are certain in order to to qualify for reimburse and to keep free and reduced where free and reduced is there are guidelines and structures to that. >> We also get a lot of products sometimes at very reduced rate or almost no rate >> for food and we don't want to lose that uh cost savings I guess. So they may that minimum threshold we need to look
048at and make sure that we're within the guidelines I guess. >> I think we would be willing to do what is in the best interest of our students and if there are things that we can do to make the situation better. I'm certainly open to doing that. Um I would take advice and guidance from the board in terms of what it would be based on their interest. There's a lot of things you can do with it uh in theory. Um, but what's actually legal, we would have to cross reference that. >> Well, gave us a lot of information to think about and maybe some ideas that can be brought forward. And thank you, Mrs. Booth for encouraging us to give interest on that money. Um, that will definitely help the overall budget um, and the
049cafeteria fund. Anything else for the committee of the whole at this time? Do >> I have a motion to adjourn the committee of the whole, please? Motion >> motion Mr. Myers second >> second Mr. Shay there is no discussion unless I hear a negative or abstain we will adjourn the meeting I call the meeting adjourned at 7:38 p.m. Are we ready to move forward with the regular school board meeting? Does anybody need a break? Okay, then we'll move forward with the uh regular school board meeting August 3rd. >> Does somebody want a break? M >> I don't know. Mike was looking at Mr. W was looking at me. I normally call it. Uh, >> okay. >> Um, we'll keep moving forward if that's okay. Um, August 3rd, 2026. Uh, like to call the meeting to
050order at 7:38 p.m. Um, do I please have uh rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> I want to welcome everyone that's here this evening and thank you for coming out. Um, it's good to see you here on a nice still summer evening. Um, Mrs. Malot, are you with us? Allison Okay, she didn't join yet. Maybe she'll be able to join. Very good. Um, so this evening we will conduct the business of the board. We have another meeting here in August um yet and then uh our students come on the 20 25th right is the first day for students. We have
051this meeting and one other meeting. I know the administration and teachers and a lot of people are getting a lot of things ready uh around the school. Do we have any specific student or staff recognition or board reports, Dr. Grande? >> No, sir. >> Thank you. Do we have any reading of correspondence? >> No, sir. >> Thank you. Uh recognition of visitors, please sign the clipboard for tonight's meeting so that we know everyone is here. Uh do we have any public comments? Done. Okay. Thank you. Moving on to number six on the agenda. Uh motion to approve the committee of the whole the board meeting minutes for the June 22nd 2026 as presented. Do I have a motion please? >> Motion Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second. Mr. Shade. Any discussion? Hearing
052none. I assume everyone's voting in the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstain. At this time, I'd also like to thank Mr. Evans Steel for taking care of the last meeting. I was on vacation with my family, but I did hear the meeting and was able to participate fully. And I thank the board for allowing me to do that with my family. So I apologize for not being here, but it was time well spent. Financial reports, payment of bills, Mrs. Shade, please. General fund procurement card 9,791.82 general fund checks nationwires $3,768,32.76. Special revenue $2,9629. Capital reserve fund $0. Cafeteria fund $133,96251. Student activities $32,3942. Total amount of all funds $3,947,280. Motion to approve the payment of bills as presented. >> Thank you, Mr. Shay. Treasurer. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Myers.
053Any discussion hearing? None. Thanks. And we're all waiting affirmative to pay the bills. So unless I hear a negative or abstain. Moving on to 7B, treasures fund reports. Uh we're all we as the board and you as the public can look at all those reports there um and see them and and discuss any information. They are noted um for our ability to see them. And if there's any questions, we can go back and we'll get to 7 C year-to- date general fund and year-to- date taxes. Um, these are also provided to us to see where we're at on tax collection and fund report. Uh, these are also noted at this time. Uh, and they're also compared to last year budgetary transactions. Motion to approve the budgetary transfers for the June 2026 as presented. Do I
054have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myer. Do I have a second? >> Second. Mr. Shay, is there any discussion? Hearing none. I assume we're all going in the affirmative in the budget transfers and the second a negative or abstaining. Old business. Do we have any old business from the floor? Hearing none. Moving into new business. New business personnel action items unless there is an objection. We will combine all new business personnel action items listed under number nine into one motion. That would be 9A through 9E. Some of them are extra duties, some of them are resignations. uh motions. Do we have any objection of combining them 9A through 9E? Hearing none. Do I have a motion to approve uh personnel action items 9A through 9E? >> Motion. Mr. Myers. Do I have a second?
055>> Second, Mr. Sh. Any discussions for the floor? Hearing none. I assume we're all voting the affirmative to approve 9A through 9E. New business action items. uh recommended approval of updated job descriptions. We have several there in school psychologist, induction coordinator, cross-country course manager, wellness coordinator, administrative assistant to the assistant superintendent, administrative assistant to the curriculum and technology, and human resource coordinator. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the updated job descriptions as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Sha, is there any discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative on the updated job descriptions unless I hear a negative or abstaining. 10B recommended approval of curriculum. Uh Mr. Satan, director of curriculum instructions, recommending the new
056and updated curriculum which was presented at the June 22nd board meeting. Uh you can see there several of them are from agricultural curriculum. Uh some of them are from the uh artificial intelligence, lifelong adventure fitness. Uh on the second page there in our notes, marine and ocean studies, mass media, personal finance, public speaking, small gas engines, statistics and symphonic wings and wind ensemble and TV production. Uh these are all courses in the high school, middle school courses. band has been revised as well as careers and uh music which is new. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the new and updated curriculum as presented. Do I have a motion please? >> Motion, Mr. Meyer. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shay. Uh discussion. I'm thankful for the teachers who spent time
057on putting to revise these curriculums to improve the courses for our students and the administration has overseen that. Any other discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstaining. Moving on to Tennessee administration is reviewed and recommends the following contracts. New story agreement, workforce development with the Carlile Chamber, secular education agreement with Central Pendant Education, Vista District Classrooms, Memorandum Understanding with Campbell Psychological License Agreement with Campbell Psychological and CIU services agreement for the 2627 school year as uh listed. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the agreements as presented. Do I have a motion, please? Motion. >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second. M Shade. Do we have any discussion? >> Yes. Mr. >> U. I'd like to draw your
058attention to a few things with the Campbell agreements. First of all, there are two of them. Uh both of them have language included that imply that they are the only agreement between these parties which I think is potentially an oversight since we now uh have two specific agreements going. We had had one originally that happened in February and then after it was looked at a little closer, we added the memorandum of understanding. Um, and now as we're redoing them both at the same time, they both have language in them that states this is the only agreement between these parties, but yet there are two documents. I think that maybe should be addressed. um but it was not addressed prior to right now because it looks like what's showing on our website is still has that
059pine pushed. Um another interesting thing is that the these new agreements now do not include our elementaryaries. When we approved this last February, they were getting a new therapist to work in our two of our elementary schools. um at that time as far as students they were serving in our middle school they were serving four at Newville uh I don't have the number here written down I think I think it was oh I'm sorry I did seven students then um I'm sorry in the middle school that was seven students I was looking at my the wrong line the high school at that time they were there two days and they had room for they had eight that they were serving but they still had room for three or four more students to provide therapy to.
060Um, and at that time it was new for Oak Flat and Not Rock Elementary. Fast forward to the beginning of this year, a lot has changed. Uh, Newville apparently had no therapists this year. They went from serving seven students there last year to no therapist there at all all year. Um, also the middle school, they had served seven students now. It was only four. I didn't get an updated number on the high school to know for sure there. Um, but apparently the new varists that came to Mount Rock and I thought serving four and six students. But the decision was made to cancel at the elementary level, which I find interesting to me. I think that's probably where the greatest need would be since the whole point was to give our kiddos what they needed
061and to allow them to have therapy without missing as much class. And the truth of the matter is if the student is 14 and over, they are eligible even through candles on their own website to have teleaalth. If they're younger than that, generally they don't they're not it's not as easy to get them tellalth appointments. So our high school students and in other school some if they're 14 or over would generally qualify for telements and so the need is less great there. So if they if this company had gone down in the amount of therapists they could provide us, why would we decide to stop serving the elementary students where we obviously had a great PE and knew that we had seven students last year and now this year we were unable to serve them
062at all and we were very excited to get that started in Mount Rock flat last year and it was they this year they did serve four and six but now next year we're not going to serve them at all but yet we're going to stay in the high school and middle school. My thoughts are if we have if they have therapists to offer, wouldn't it be better to offer them to the schools where the children have a harder time doing teleaalth and where they would definitely be pulled out of class and taken to appointments and who knows Parl Harrisburg wherever and miss half the day of school each time they had to go for therapy. So if we were doing this for that reason alone, I think we would have done something different with which
063group we serve. That concerns me great. Another question I have based on our memorandum understanding is that we may get consent from both school and the company may get consent from either the student for the parent and for the parent. So if the students 14 or older, we do not have to get consent from the parent. The company is does not have to get consent from the parent. But we do have a clause in this statement in this memorandum of understanding that the school will have to get permission from the parent for the child's next class time. And that's obvious because 14-year-olds don't write their own excuses to go to the doctors. They don't decide when they get to leave school on their own. Their parent does as that that's the rule for all students.
064What happens if the parent doesn't give that permission, but the student has? And I haven't gotten a definitive answer on that. And this that's a question that's been a question online since the very beginning when also if you would pull up the license agreement and take a look at that. I I would just ask if anyone can tell me from number three under the use and fee how much exactly they will be paying us per month. >> Anybody know what it says? >> I without looking I'm sorry. Without the feedback, I'd be talking I I can't read that off top of my head. I did scan over it, but I did not I don't have that number in front of me. Mr. Sh, >> $10 per month. It says >> $10 per month. >> What
065does it say in words prior to the $10 me for you? >> Yeah. >> Number three, Houston fee. The license shall solely for the use of office space for outpatient mental health services for students at the schools. Ly shall pay lenser. the amount of one $1. Oh, and then it says $10 per month during the team. Uh term of this license agreement. Ly is not the agent servant. Do you need me to continue? I think I see your issue. It says $1 and then it says $10. >> Ben wouldn't accept a check like that. >> Yeah. >> So my also my concern was this was like private office space. Apparently though, we do allow other people to use the office space. So when you read the agreements, you would be certain this is private office
066space with a locked door that only they are allowed to use with a locked cabinet inside. But apparently we allow other places other could use that space for other purposes. Though by reading the agreements, it doesn't seem that way. um to me either $1 or $10 a month to allow a private for-profit company to basically do business and get referrals from our school. It's it's it's an inadequate amount for any office space that's heated, well cared for, and cleaned. $100 a month for each office that they have is still cheap. Um, so I'm not sure if we're giving our taxpayers the best deal here. So I would I would propose that we change that amount to a more reasonable amount. Anyone has any suggestions on that? And perhaps this needs tabled for more um looking
067at the language that's in these contracts. >> Thank you, Mrs. Booth. Um, any action from other board members? We have a motion, a second, and a floor to approve the contracts. We could table them till the next meeting. Um, Dr. Grande, when does their services start? They would start from day of school, possibly. >> Yes, that's correct. I I think the things that we have to be mindful of are other providers of services within the district. um physical providers, people that come in and do physicals for us, dental services, uh they would fall under this umbrella, too. So, I would hope that we would be uniform and equal to all service providers. Um the other thing is is I brought uh an organization to the board's attention that did taotherapy. It was a consortium agreement
068within the Capitol area intermediate unit. Um, and that was not acceptable because taotherapy was not something that was feasible in terms of a service and how that modality was exercised. Um, and I I do have those communications that I could refresh people's memory um, back in the spring. So I just think we have to be mindful of fairness, equity, and and make sure that we're not doing anything that could be, you know, pigeon hole to one individual. >> I can say personally, and know this wasn't for therapy. This was for my wife had a doctor's appointment today at John Hopkins at 9:15 this morning. And at the end of the $80 charge for eight minutes of doctor time, even though the doctor we know very well and she was very good, was almost useless. Um
069my wife got off and she said, "We need to drive to John Hopkins for our appointment." And so even though it was face to face online with a computer, it was not effective. Um so sometimes tele visits I think could be helpful but in personally in my case today it was not so uh a 14year-old would that work for them I guess that to be seen the office that is used by this individual we have one in the middle school one in the high school is that correct Dr. That's correct. >> And that office is available for other people to use. It is locked and it is private, but it is available for others to use if if the need arises by the the principle of the building. >> That's correct. It has a locked
070cabinet in there. The outdoor lock can be locked as well, but it can be universally used. >> So, U Campbell Psychological might be here. I'm just asking two days a week maybe. We don't know. >> It's based on student needs, student schedule, and and therapist availability here. >> Okay. >> I I don't >> go ahead. Mr. Shade, >> I understand what Mrs. Booth is saying about the Houston fe um I'm not sure the big I'm not a big fan of charging more than a dollar or $10. This is a service that we're providing to the students. This is a convenience. This is an ease. and it just seems making money on something like this just doesn't feel right to me. So, I'm not big on that idea, but I do think that perhaps this needs
071to be um fixed where it the $1, $10 is confusing. That's just my >> Any other comments from board members? >> Mr. Cor, >> who's choosing to remove the elementary services? Is that Campbell or is that the school? That was Campbell based on the therapists and individuals that are able to serve the district. >> So the district is not the ones that are requesting to remove the services. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> Based on the number of individuals she has to service the district the district and >> Mr. For once I'm actually going to uh agree with Lisa. I mean, if it's so important that we get these kids the services they need and the school doesn't want to charge more than a dollar, $10, then I think the nonprofit group should volunteer their
072time for the students. Also, if it's more about the students than it is the profit, that should be a thing. >> Yes, go ahead. will say from Campbell's website, their fees are now insurance does kick in, but if you look up what u Medicaid or Medicare pays for a therapy session, it's around $165. And also when you look at Campbell's website, their intake intake appointment, which would be the first appointment, is $225. And then from there, their appointment fee is $165 for a 45minut session. And I guess I have a question for Dr. that um he said that we have other organizations or groups coming in here that would be in the same category such as dentists and doctors and I'm curious who those would be. It's the only ones I know of are contracts
073with physicians that we pay them to see our students and they're not also getting $165 a pop for a 45minut session. Is there someone that I'm unaware of that's coming in that you're referring to? We have Hamilton Health on site for dental for students, >> right? And we pay for those appointments, those checkups except for if they are going to then need further care, then they would go to Hamilton House, but not have a we don't have a dental office per se in our schools at all times in a private office with a locked door and a lock cabinet for them. >> They would use designated space. That's they would use a designated space because they have the equipment that they store in there >> weekly. Now it would be it would be systemically it
074would be throughout the year based on when the dental exams have to be provided for students but it wouldn't be weekly. It would >> grades are those grades that isn't just third grade and seventh grade or something. >> It's spread out. Uh I I won't be able to tell you what the number of grades are. Four maybe four grades. >> But that's a service we pay for it school. So our students can meet that need rather than >> it's a service that's offered. I wouldn't be able to confirm that we pay for it, but it's a service that we offer. >> We have a contract with them. >> Yes. >> Well, yeah, but but if they need additional dental services, they can seek those out on site. >> So, we are a motion to second
075to um vote on these two contracts with Campbell as well as the other items that is recommended. Do I have a motion to do otherwise? >> Sorry, one more question. ML. >> Yes, Mr. Brown. Sorry. question. I'm not a contract expert, so please forgive my ignorance, sir. Um, number two, the license term. Lency shall have the right to use the license area for a mutually agreed upon hours of the day, the weeks in school. The license shall also have the right to use the license area outside of school hours as may be mutually agreed upon. What kind of work are they doing outside of school hours? >> That would be summer time. >> I'm sorry. >> Summertime. >> Summer time. Okay. So, we still provide service during the summer time >> if if they're sought
076out. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification. And that's still is there any any other staff required on site any kind of district staff or is it just the >> it all it logistically has to be worked out that yes >> that's a that's a barrier based on the time of the year. >> Thank you. Thank you for clarification. >> Okay. Are we ready to vote on the motion? >> Yes. >> Just the the fee um the correction to the fee $1 $10. What what is it supposed to be? I believe $10 is what it's supposed to be. >> So the one should be changed to the word one should be changed to teen 10. >> Yes. And that's a change that can be made. Would you like to make that as an amendment,
077Mr. PC? >> I would. Yes. >> Okay. We have an amendment on the floor to adjust the um Hambo Psychological from just $1, omitting one and changing it to 10. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Do I have a second to the amendment? >> I'll second. >> Second by Mr. Shade. Any discussion on the fee uh erasing one and making it 10 hearing? None. All those in favor of approving uh a revised uh $10 uh and erasing the one in the contract sign. Um I assume you're all voting in the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstaining. Okay. So now we'll move back to the original motion which is to approve these two contracts. Um I think with the discussion this evening camo realizes that we are looking at their contracts in detail and
078may make some changes. Um but at this point we would be approving them and eliminating the one and the 10 which passed as an amendment. Is there any other discussion? >> We be approving an additional list of agreements just right. >> Yes. Thank you for the correction. We'd be approving the entire list new story down through CIU. including the two Campbell agreements >> with the one change to the Campbell to $10. >> Any other discussion? >> I'd like to make a motion to table the two Campbell agreements so they can be combined. The license the information in both that states that that is the only agreement between the two parties can be adjusted. And that would be an amendment motion uh to combine the two bullets um between camo into one contract. Do I have
079a second to that amendment? >> Second. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. Did she say table or amend? >> Table until they can be amended. >> Okay. So, the motion is to table the two cam contracts until they can be combined. Is that correct, Mrs.? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we have a motion on the floor to pull out and table the two Cambo contracts until they can be amended into one or combined into one and then brought back to the board for approval. >> We had a motion and a second on the table of the two camos. Do we have other discussion? >> I have a question. >> Yes, Mr. Shady. >> If we were to approve these as they are now, can we amend them later? I mean, is there some stipulation in the
080contract saying that we can't >> you can approve them with with stipulations? >> Make an amendment later. >> You could you could say I'm approving one and the other and I'm striking that last sentence. We've done that before as a team. >> Can can the solicitor give us uh the the reasoning between why there are two why we have a me memorandum of understanding and a license agreement? Is there an issue with that? >> Um I think Thank you. >> I think the memorandum of understanding is provides the 26 2.7 >> um mental health program and the license agreement amends the February 1825 to agreement by removing three of the elements. I think one goes back to the 25 >> organizations. The other one reflects what it is you're currently doing for the 26 27
081school year. >> Yeah, they work with one. Okay. >> I think that's the reason maybe not. >> And Dr. Garley, correct me if I'm wrong and also our solicitor. This does not preclude us from somebody else coming in and saying they may want to provide services to our elementary schools. >> It does not preclude it. >> Yeah, we could someone else could provide mental health and provide the board with a contract and we could possibly uh use them if if the need arises and >> amazing great psychology. >> We want to uh have them work with our students. >> It's not exclusive. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, the amendment on the floor is to table or the motion on the floor, excuse me, is to table uh the two cam bells um issues until a
082later date. Is there any more discussion? So, if you vote in the affirmative, uh if you when I say uh assume everyone's voting in the affirmative, then you're agreeing to table. If you vote no verbally, then you'll be voting not to table and they would go back to the original motion, which is to approve all the um agreements. Does everybody understand what they're voting? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, uh, I assume that everyone is voting in affirmative to table the two mental health, um, uh, agreements with Campbell, unless I hear a negative or abstaining. >> No. >> One, no. Two, no. >> Three. No. Any more nos? >> Mrs. Mala, are you with us? >> No. >> So, three nos. And, uh, I assume the rest are voting affirmative. Um because it seems like we're
083in an impass uh I can only make or break a tie. So I'm going to vote no also because these have been looked at by the solicitor and administrative. So that makes it a tie. So that means that no action will occur and it will not be taken. Um >> point of order. >> Yes. So Julie, Ben, me and David is four to three. >> But by you voting, you would create a tie. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yes, I'm correct. I'm creating a tie. So either we need to have a new motion or amendment or something because it no decision has been made. >> So it's I have done correct in the department's procedure. No, that's incorrect. The president has the right under parliament's procedure, Robert rules of order to either make or break
084a topic. >> Yes, >> he is absolutely correct on that. But I just wanted to prove to everybody that the president of the board does vote and that that statement that was made that he only votes to break ties or he only votes for the majority was incorrect. Mr. Kane, was I correct in what we did? >> Uh, yes. The president has has a vote in every on every motion and >> however you want to look at it is just fine, but the president can vote on any motion. So, >> I think your vote for >> So, we're not at an impass. We're just going back to the agreements. If another motion wants to be made, then people will vote again. contractors for one year >> and we can amend it when >> you cannot.
085>> Mr. King, am I correct to say that we're going back to the agreements and the original motion that was made? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> So, we are at a a place where we have the agreements there. Uh, no action has been taken with the candells. Um, we can have another motion or we can vote on them as the motion and second was approved. >> Mr. Yes, I just have to point out at the bottom of your writing of understanding it specifically states that the um agreement may not between the parties may not be amended except in writing by both parties which would imply that we cannot just amendment amend it whatever we choose. >> The goal the goal the goal there would be to amend it Mr. Fischer and then
086if it's not acceptable it doesn't happen. >> That makes sense. >> I understand that. I'm just simply stating >> you're you're correct. >> I've heard the statement we can amend it whenever and that's not correct. We have to have writing. >> Well, we we we can amend it whenever we want. It's whether the other party accepts it. And if the other party accepts it, then it >> if the other party does not accept it, it doesn't happen. >> Correct. >> Which means the amendment would not effect unless it's >> right. >> Yeah. We would just be taking care of our business so to speak tonight. >> Understand? Do I have any other emotions or amendments to the approving the list of agreements as presented? >> I got one more question. >> Yes, Mr. and this
087is for Donna. Donna, did we ever pass the amendment to make sure the writing was changed to $10? >> Yes, we did. >> Yes. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that >> that that carried unanimously. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. With no no votes. Okay, so we're back to the motion unless I have any other motions or amendments. >> Separate that those two agreements from the list under 10 C and those separately, please. >> Okay, I have a motion to separate out the two for Cano psychological out. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Partly moved and second to remove the two off of the list and then vote on the rest of the list separately. Uh, do I have any discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting the affirmative to
088remove those two out and vote on the other ones separately. We're not voting on the other ones. We're just voting to remove the two. I assume we're all voting the affirmative to do that. Is that correct? >> Assume everyone's voting on the affirmative? >> No. >> I have one. No. Any other? Okay. Then the motion passes. So, we're removing the two out. We'll go back to the original list of one, two, three, four. Skip five and six bullet and go to seven. So one, two, three, four, and seven. Um, at this time we will. Is there any discussion? >> Hearing none. I assume we're all voting the affirmative to approve bullets 1 2 3 4 and seven. Unless I hear a negative or abstaining. >> Okay, those are approved. Donna, are we good? >> We
089are. Give me one second there to catch up. Very good. So, we still have outstanding the Campbell um associates both the license and the memorandum understanding. Um do I have a motion to approve those as presented? >> Yes. >> Mr. Myers approves them as presented. Do I have a second? >> Second. Mr. Sh, do I have more discussion? >> Yes. >> Um I would like to address something Dr. Grant said. He mentioned a contract that was brought to us in the spring and implied how he remembers that going and the emails. Those are very good emails that that contract is referring to was with a company called Corkwheel in that contract. So I don't know if anyone's familiar with the medical field. John, you say you are when a doctor generally refers a patient to
090another practice. They they sometimes get a little money back for making those referrals. Often I think it happens with dentist office and they say, "Well, go get your teeth checked out by the orthodontist." And they're going to get a little kickback. I mean, I think you're probably aware of how that works. In the cartill contract, we as a school were going to be referring patients to cartwheel. Though in this contract, we were prepurchasing the ability to make referrals where they claimed they would not put a child on a wait list most of the time, but if you read the contract, they still could. And it still might take a couple weeks to get them in with a tellaalth provider. I've never expressed that there's any issue with teleahalth providers. In fact, I offered a long
091list of tellahalth providers that I found that you could simply go right online. I could have made an appointment for my child that right away. I could have picked the date and time that we would have had our first appointment. They as in my words in the email, they are cropping up like dandy. These services are very available online. Now, not every child, but particularly the elementary level are not good candidates for that. But the older students often can take advantage of that. Now, the cartwheel agreement was very different. We were preurchasing referrals. I think the number was 15 or 20, let's say. I can't remember exactly. What I do know is we were buying the opportunity to refer to them at over $600 a pop. And all of the patients we referred to them
092so they could then further make money off of them had to have insurance except for one. We could refer one patient that didn't have insurance for like $15,000ish and I think it was $600 is a person. We were paying them in advance whether we did or did not come up with the patients to refer in that time frame ahead of time. I've never heard of such a preposterous thing in my life, but that's what we were going to do. But it was okay because it was federal money. So, we didn't care. But I did. And so, I said, "This is absurd." And looked quickly and found a whole long list of mental health providers that provided teleaalth that could get your child in quicker than they were guaranteeing us for. I mean, I could come
093up with a contract. I could sell the school to guarantee I could bring them fresh water if the water stopped coming out the faucets. That's what they were guaranteeing us essentially. I decided I I pointed that out. I think the agreement the uh logic was pretty obvious because that was the last I heard of that. I just wanted to point out this is very different than that. So that's not not the same. And I never said that teleahalth mental health services was my problem with that. That we were paying 600 bucks a kid in a days. That was the problem. >> Okay. Thank you for that information. Uh we're back to the two items. Do we want to take any action or um there is no action taken at this time? We had a motion,
094a second. Is that correct, Donna? to approve the two for candles. >> Not catch if that was seconded. >> Mr. You have made a motion to approve and >> Mr. Sh. Okay. So, we have a motion to second to approve the memory of understanding with Campbell and the license agreement with the the one being changed to 10. Am I correct on that? >> Yes. You already approved the one the 10. >> Okay. So now I'll take any other discussion or table or amendments or we vote. >> Just to confirm the license agreement is separate that there's a reason for that because it's a different school year. It's >> well the I think the light they called it a license agreement. I think it has to do with the facility facility use and that has to
095be changed because the elementaryaries are not part of the correct stuff. I would have called it a lease but they called it a license agreement. So you know if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's probably so >> the license agreement is really a lease. >> So the lease uh what what the lease follows is their plan for the coming school year. >> Yeah. Which facilities service those? >> Yeah. Which facilities? >> So you wouldn't one without the other. You would these these two things go together. >> If you're going to have camel do this, they want to do it without providing service to these elementaryaries. And if you're not going to provide service to elementaryaries, you don't need a lease for rooms in those elementary schools. >> And the previous
096agreed upon license agreement had the elementary schools listed. >> So can I ask Mrs. booth again what her what her worry is with why we would should table them. Why what what the difference would be if we tabled them or just approved them tonight. I need more clarity on that. I'm not understanding. >> I have an issue with the dead ball. >> My issue is the language which does appear similarly on those. I'll read you the one that I have pulled off on the license agreement. It says under number 10 entire agreement. This license constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the use of licensed area. Now to say with respect to the use of license area. Neither this license nor any of its provisions may be changed, waved, discharged or terminated
097orally, but only by instrument rightly signed by the parties. My concern is that the other one also says something to the same effect that this agreement is the only agreement between these parties. Neither document addresses the fact that we have a separate agreement with them, but they both imply that this is the only agreement between the two parties. I think it's an oversight. We originally had done them separately. I think they could probably be together. I also agree that the fact that it says lease agreement, but it's really actually or it says license agreement, but it's really actually like lease agreement is a problem. Yes, Mr. Mayor. >> Uh, Mr. King, is it the bottom of the line that tells us from you that this is okay the way it is? >> It's the the
098two go together. >> Yes. The Well, the bottom line is one is the lease agreement that talks about the the build the use of the the offices in the building. The other one talks about the program. So, I do agree that um you know, ideally they they would be together, but I don't think that it's um it's it certainly doesn't negate the ability. Neither agreement negates the ability to do the other one. One talks about using certain offices in the premises. The other talks about a program agreement. So, when they the the clause that Mrs. Booth was referring to is very common in contracts. It's an integration clause. What it says is this agreement is the entire agreement with respect to the subject of this particular contract. So the subject contract of the license agreement
099is the lease and the subject of the 2627 school year agreement is the provision of the services. Ideally they would both be in the same one but having them in two separate agreements although offered is not um inconsequential. >> Doesn't mean anything. >> No it doesn't mean anything but yeah it's just an oversight. Okay, we're back. We had a motion, a second to approve uh these two, one, the memorandum of understanding and to the license agreement. Uh do I have any other motions? Amendments to amend the fee under the license agreement to $100 a month. I'm talking about two separate office spaces that are provided whenever they want them. They're locked. They're cleaned. They can even use them in the summertime. and they will make that up in one appointment. >> Okay. Do I have
100a second to changing 10 to 100 a month? >> Second. >> Probably moved in and second that we would amend um the motion the agreements to make $10 now $100 per month. Um and is that I have a question. Is that for each office? >> Then we agree. >> How does it read now? that reads now as though it's total. So I would say it's still just total >> total. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. So changing $10 per month during the term of the license agreement to now $100 per month uh to use those office spaces. Do I have a second? I did. Do I have more discussion? >> My my concern with that is it's like a slippery slope with other with other contracts that we have. Um, I wouldn't want to see
101the other contracts like we have with other spaces that are rented out. I don't want to put us in a bind. That's that's my only concern. I understand what you mean by that, but I just without looking at everything, I can't I can't >> Well, that's the problem is is that >> we don't have a list. So, I can't make a judgment based on no information. Thank you, Mr. >> What happens if they say no? What if they disagree? We lose the service. >> Correct. They could uh reject the agreement. >> Our services offer our elementary schools. So, and that was where it was most needed, it seemed. >> Yeah. A motion to second to change the 10 to 100. Do I have any more discussion? If you vote in the affirmative, then you're voting
102yes and changing it. If you vote no, then you would not be voting to change it. It will go back to the $10 which was the amendment. Anybody have a question on how they're voting? All those in favor of changing it from 10 to 100. I assume we're voting in the affirmative unless I hear a negative verb staining. >> No. >> I hear three nos. Are there other nos? I will also vote no. I do not feel that we should overcharge for resources that we have and my rationale is I think they would just pass that on to the students and the families. So now we're back to a 44 decision. >> Now you're back to the original motion, >> correct? >> Yes. >> So their fees already have their current office space calculated in.
103So they didn't change the fee structure for us giving them a break on on how much a new office space for them would be. So I would disagree with that statement, >> but they they voted they they expected they only have to pay $10. We're now telling them it's $100. So they're going to pay $1,200 a year instead of $120. So they're going to charge more because they just increased their value $1,100. And we're giving them an office space that they can use. >> We were before >> and we did I personally had issues with it before. I think I voted no the last time. >> Okay. So, we're going back to the main motion at this time uh which was to approve the contracts. Um there was no decision made to change it from
10410 to 100. >> Do I have any other discussion? Hearing none. I assume everyone's voting in the affirmative to approve the contract and the license agreement unless I hear a negative or abstaining. >> No. No. >> No. >> I got one. No. >> Two. Three. Four. >> Mr. King. Uh, point of order. Am I able to table a motion as president? Uh, >> the motion just failed. Well, I didn't vote. Yeah. >> Oh, you didn't vote. >> I'm asking a clerical question. As president, do I have to recluse myself in the chair to be able to table a motion? >> Um, you can make a motion to table at any time. >> It's undebatable and you can make it at any time. >> Okay. >> I'm going to vote no. And now I'm going to
105table have a motion to table this uh until it can be looked at further by our solicitor and also uh Dr. Don. Do I have a second to my table? >> Second. >> Point point order. >> Yes. >> You just voted no. So you closed the whole thing. >> No, it would have been neutral. We didn't vote. We didn't make a decision. >> Then the motion fails. You should have made the table before you voted no. Would that be correct, King? >> Well, um, so I'm not sure where Mr. War wants this to go, but you can make a motion to send it to back to the solicitor and the the superintendent, or you can make a motion to do almost anything you want at this point. Um whether it's to table it or not
106doesn't matter. What did you have in mind Mr. W? >> My concern is we spent almost an hour on this topic and I think we need to move along with other school business and to move us forward. I think we need more clarification from both you the solicitor and our superintendent and maybe Campbell would like to enter in also and I'd like to table this until we have a chance to think about it and move forward. I think it is it is uh it is on the table now because it's defeated. But you're you could make a motion to refer this back to Dr. Bronte and myself to discuss it with Campbell and come back to the board with us. That would be the same effective favor. >> Okay, >> I can do that. Or
107does any member want to refer it to committee at this time? >> Go ahead. >> Okay, I will make a motion to refer this to a committee so that we can move forward. um to Dr. Bronte and D and and our solicitor and also Kimbell until we get more information. Do I have a second to that? >> A second. >> It's been properly moved and second. Do I have any more discuss? >> I have a point of clarification, please. >> I just like to clarify on the main motion. We had four nos and then you voted no and so the main motion failed and now not just for secretary's point of view and this the recording secretary's point of view and now we are making a separate motion related to this item to have it
108go back to the superintendent and the sol all my goal is is to move forward with other business and it seems like There's a lot of contention about this issue. So as president and we have one member absent, I am trying to get us to a point that we can move forward because we seem to be at somewhat an impass and being fair to every be done. We did already fail motion failed forward. >> Yes. >> So the only >> but there was no there was no action. My my point is there was no action after it failed. So the action should be that it's >> to the next item generally that's how it would go. So the hold up at this point is the new motion that you just made which generally move on
109to the next item. I mean I'm just pointing out the fact here. >> Okay. >> Does anyone else feel that I am wrong to make a motion to refer? >> I would I would agree with Mrs. Booth. Typically a motion fit. I'm sorry. Typically when a motion fails and what we did with the last couple of times we tried to table it when we had a tie it failed. We moved on. And so I would agree with this. Anyone else want to comment? >> I agree with consistency and there was going to be no tableling after several of the motions failed previously. So, let's keep it consistent. >> Okay. I will remove my motion of table. If someone else wants to make a motion, fine. If not, we'll move ahead. Okay. And moving on in
110the agenda, the two items from handler were not passed this evening. Recommended approval of capital project payments and D. The following invoices for security came replacement project were approved at the April 20th, 2026 meeting and are presented for payment within the general fund from the assigned fund balances capital projects B&H photo. There were several there. The following invoices for the stadium breast box and consult work are prevented for payment. Wolf consulting engineers and the following invoice for Brookointing that was approved at the April 2020, 2026 meeting structural restoration services for 59,000. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the capital project payments as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. I have a second. Second, Mr. Shade. Any discussion? Real quick, what's the total amount that we've spent on
111this press box so far? Do we have that just random? >> Uh the purchase or the purchase of the actual box uh and this this cost here for the engineering fees up until this point >> and we still know how much the total project is going to cost. >> That's what we're working on. Yeah, we're trying to make sure that it's as economical as possible. >> I appreciate that. just bring that back up that still don't have a total cost of what product >> and we don't have a box up there and it's not going to be up until fall season. >> Right. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Any other discussion on these invoices? Hearing none. Uh I assume we're all voting in affirmative to pay these unless I hear a negative
112or abstain. >> Sorry, one more question. I did get a chance to look at the football field. Is the box here or no? >> No, we do not have to. At any point in time, do we have to start paying rental fees or any kind of fees to the company that the box room at their storage facility? Sorry, sorry for I assume we're all voting affirmative of these invoices unless they're very negative or abstaining. Moving on to 10 recommended approval of amended. Uh Dr. Reed Student Services has reviewed the best interest determination and transportation procedures plan between Big Spring District and the Crom County Children and Youth Agency. Uh the administration recommends the board of school directors approve the amendment as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have
113a second? Second, Mr. Shade. Any discussion? Hearing none, I assume everyone's voting in the affirmative and a second a negative or abstaining. 10F recommended approval of tuition waiverss. Uh we have many students that want to come here and their parents want to bring them here. They um work in our district. You can see them listed there. Uh this is an opportunity for the parents to work here and their students to attend. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the tuition waiver exemption as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Meyer. Do I have a second? Second >> second Mr. Shade any discussion hearing? None. I assume everyone's studying the affirmative of the tuition waiver unless I hear a negative or abstain. 10G recommended approval of student handbooks for the 2627
114school year. The administration has prepared updated the elementary, the middle, and the high school student handbooks as Buro Sudar and the student parent handbook for the athletic department guidelines for the 2627 school year which have been reviewed by the assistant superintendent Dr. Nadine Sanders and are presented for the board for approval. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the updated handbooks and athletic department guidelines as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. If I have a second, Mr. Shade, any discussion? Hearing none. I assume we're all voting in favor to approve the student handbooks for the 2627 school year. Unless I hear a negative outstanding 10H recommended approval of the agreement with BlueCap Services. The administration reviewed the student transportation contract with bluecap services as an alternate option to
115provide transportation for students with specialized school placements. This agreement has been reviewed by the district solister. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the agreement as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shade. Any discussion? Hearing none. I assume you're all voting the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstain. 10 I high school TSI non-title one school plan as required by the department of trans education and state board of regulations. The board of education for the Big Spring School District must review and approve the 2627 Big Spring High School TSI non-title one school plan presented this evening uh by Dr. Palms, our high school principal. Uh he answers several questions and clarifications. The administration recommends the board of school directors
116approve the 2627 plan as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. I have a second. >> Second, Mr. Shane. Is there any discussion? >> Yes. Yes. >> I just want to thank Dr. Parms for um coming in and presenting to us tonight. I think when he left um we did not blackboard him like we usually do for everybody else. So I just wanted to make a special point to say thank you to him for presenting and providing all the information he did to us tonight. >> Thank you Mr. B. Point well taken. Any other discussion hearing? None. I assume we're all voting in the affirmative for the TSI title one school plan for the high school and the second a negative or abstaining. NJ authorization of participation. Mr. Independent director of athletics
117and student activities received a request for a home school resident student independently participating in PIAA girls tennis through the Big Spring School District with the understanding the family will provide a coach and all transportation to and from tennis matches. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the request for an independent PIAA participation as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? Second. >> Second. Mr. Sh, is there any discussion? >> Yeah, >> I have a question quick, too. So, does that mean the student is just using the Big Spring School District's name or Big Spring High School or whatever? >> That's correct. >> And that doesn't open us for insurance or liability or they're just literally wearing a bulldog uniform. Correct. >> Because they're school.
118>> We We need to approve the coach, >> I think. >> Yeah. Once once the once the coach is decided upon, we're going we're going in sequential order. Yes. First, we're going to authorize participation. Yeah, >> they'll have to come back and you'll have to, speaking of liability, >> you'll you'll have to approve the coach, whoever it is, >> and they'll go through all the background checks and everything required that >> that a homeschooled student under Pennsylvania law has a right to participate in a sport such as tennis. >> Yeah. I know we have >> you could also have other students on if you have a tennis team. You could also have other students on >> and they're required to do all their own transportation and okay just >> well I know if mom's allowed
119to drive and drive to I just want to make sure everything good. That's the first time being on the board that I've ran into this situation. >> They have to follow that follow the same rules but they have the right to do right. The other thing that enables the student and I had several of these as a coach and we also had several atmian was the student now has a school to represent. So they can move ahead in competition. They can move ahead in in the participation. They can compete with other schools as opposed to just a student off the street. Let's say they they now have a connection and someone is supporting. >> Any other discussion? >> Mr. Corman. Mr. performs. >> Mine's not primarily a question about this, but it is this the
120first tennis player Big Spring has ever had. >> No, >> Mike wasn't or Mr. Ste was >> No, I think it was just a year ago or two years ago we had >> I can't remember the year, but this is not the first one. >> All right. So, we we've had other tennis players. This is not the first. Mhm. >> So, but I was I've never remembered any other tennis player for Big Spring. So, I wanted to point out that >> I believe one went the states. >> Do they get their picture in the yearbook too? Then being an independent homeschooled student, >> they could >> that could be a good way to maybe bring them back into the school district themselves. Like look at the community, give them a yearbook and oh look at
121all these other activities we could engage in. >> That's right. Mhm. >> So maybe we could further down the road we make sure we include them in the yearbook as well in the sports section. >> Well, you can be a homeschooled student and still play football. >> Well, no, I understand that. But but encouraging them, oh, here's a yearbook with my picture in it as the sense of community and belonging to a school. Bring them back into the school district itself. >> Y those pictures. >> Any other discussion? >> I have a comment. >> Yes, Mr. Speaker. >> Kind of a concern and and a bit of a word of warning. um this student not actually attending school here. Um under PIAA rules, if a student comes and plays a sport here for a year
122of high school and then moves schools and begins to or wants to play a sport then for their new school. So if this student would then go to a private Catholic school for example and they had already played a sport under big spring, they could be put under question or if they moved to that school possibly for the reasons of sport um >> IAA dos. So, it's almost a warning that if this student or any student uh decides to play sports here, we have taken time, money, employee hours to investigate and keep the child from playing us for it in another school. So, I would say that's just a word warning that that's a reality. >> I think it does not affect 9th grade, but affects 10th, 11th, and 12th. Am I correct? Sorry, you're
123on. >> Yeah. I mean, one of the variables that would be argued in that particular case would we don't have a tennis team. >> Right. >> Y >> Thank you, Mrs. Any other discussion on authorization to participate in girls tennis? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting the affirmative for the home school student to participate under the big spring name and the second negative or abstain. 10K recommended approval of athletic membership renewals. Uh, PI District 3 Athletic Directors Association for cost of $20. Pennsylvania State Athletic Director Association for $50 and National Intercolastic Athletic Administration Association cost of $100. The administration recommends board of school directors approve the membership renewals as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shade. Any discussion? >> Question. >>
124Yes. Is it typical for um under our contracts with the either administration which in this case is the case here or with other staff that we would as a school district use taxpayer dollars to pay for more than one professional membership to a an organization? >> That would depend on the need. So these these three things are distinctly separate categories under the same umbrella. And these all three are ones that we paid for in the past. >> Correct. >> Any other discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative to approve the uh memberships into the three organizations unless I hear a negative or abstaining. >> No. >> Tenant H recommended approval of athletic sponsors. Uh Mr. Penner, director of athletics and student activities, requests the approval of the following athletic sponsors. Um,
125Gregory Meyers masonry, Allen Rose Custom Work, Petty Flooring and Remodeling, Piper Advertising, and Blue Mountain Excavating. The board administration recommends board of school directors approve the athletic sponsors as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Mer, if I have a second. >> Second, Mr. Shade. Any other discussion? I would just like to publicly thank these companies for coming forward and willing to support our athletics. There's different levels of support. Is that correct, Dr. Grant? Some of these might be banners, some of them that might be on the board at the gym, whatever. But each of these companies as well as all the other ones that we currently have um or supporting our students. Uh we provide their advertising, but they provide financial funds for us. >> Correct. >> Any other discussion? Do
126we have a motion to approve these? >> We do. Second. >> Thank you. Any other discussion? Hearing none. I assume we're all voting to approve these um athletic sponsors on a second and negative state 10. Recommended approval of fundraisers. Uh we can see a whole list there. I do feel it's important to highlight um sub and pizza sale for the band boosters. Whoopy pies for the band boosters. Uh, second annual bingo at Penn Township Fireh Hall November 15th. Um, for the band boosters, Marine Southern Pizza sale, uh, band boosters. Battle of the Springs Car Wash benefit the dog pound. That's on September 3rd. Um, bouquet bar at the homecoming flower bouquet to benefit the dog pound. They're for homecoming. Pink out on October 16th to raise funds for the dog pound to donate to cancer
127holiday cookie competition. I assume you all can bake cookies on December 26th to benefit the dog the dog pound. Valentine candygrams to benefit the dog pound. And lastly, sunset at the stadium on May 27th to benefit the dog pound and additional participation in club. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the fundraisers as presented. Do I have a motion, please? Motion. >> Motion, Mr. Meyer. Do I have a second? Second. >> Second, Mr. Shade. Any discussion? Hearing none. I assume everyone's voting in the affirmative. That looks like you're a negative of her standing. 10 N. Recommended approval of utilization. Jason Zimmerman on behalf of the Big Spring Youth Soccer Association is requesting use of the high school soccer fields number five and six from August 23rd until November 15th for soccer games. Because
128the utilization request includes Sundays, board action is necessary. Do I have a The administration recommends the board of school directors approve utilization request as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shade. Do I have any discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in favor to approve utilization for the youth soccer association. Must I hear a negative or abstain? N O recommended approval of technology equipment disposal. We had a list there of technology. Um, it's a summary of electronic recyclables consisting of old laptops, desktops, Chromebooks, miscellaneous hardware, and cabling that has been decommissioned over the past year. There is no cost to the district based upon the scrap value. A payment may be remitted to the district for any equipment with residual value.
129The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the request to dispose of the equipment as presented in policy 706.1. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shane. Is there any discussion? >> Yes, Mr. Cuomo. >> Uh, at the end of there, it says all hard drives will be wiped and the district will be provided their certificate of destruction for record keeping. Um, to me, that says that we're not doing the wiping. the the business is doing the wiping. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. CL. Any other discussion? I assume everyone's voting the affirmative to dispose of the technology equipment with a second. Negative or abstain. 10B. Recommend approval of transportation software and features agreement with Tyler Technologies.
130As it's the June 22nd 26th board meeting, the board of school directors approved a sales quote with Title Technologies for the addition of transportation tablets installed in the buses and the Myide app software disagreement to the sales quote. Title Technologies is requiring the district to sign the attached agreement. This agreement has been reviewed by the district solicitor. The administration recommends the board of school directors approve the agreement as presented. Do I have a motion to approve this >> motion? Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shade. This will help us in knowing where buses are, uh, where those buses are in their route. Um, it helps drivers be able to know the route if we have a substitute driver. It also keeps some safety in mind for our students with the
131My Ride app. Um, Dr. Grante, we will own the tablets. Is that correct? I have you I have to look at the specifics of that language but yes we are purchasing them. >> Right. My my thought was if we would ever change the bus company or something or purchase whatever that the tablets would be ours to then redistribute possibly. >> Uh we have four more years on this contract and you know how quickly tablets become obsolete. >> Yes, you're right. >> Thank you. Any other discussion on any uh software in agreement on the talents? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstaining. Recommended approval 10 to Q of 2526 engagement letter with Ritter um to perform our local audit including the single audit. Attached is the
132engagement letter. Uh the administration recommends the approval of the 2526 engagement letter with Borham Ritter to perform the annual audit. Do I have a motion please? >> Motion Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second. Mr. Shay, is there any discussion? >> Yes, Mr. Z. >> Um I would just like to point out that I really appreciate what you're and what they've already done for the district so far. Um, as we were preparing for the budget this year, I was reviewing some of our old audits and I discovered something that was concerning and conflicting with an error uh that had been corrected in prior year ended up being on the final report from sec. Um, and we had thankfully after explaining it uh we had greater look at that and realized that there was
133no actual money error. Things were handled correctly. Um, but it was a grammatical error. Um, and I think that was like middle of May and we discovered this had occurred and we were going to have SDK write us a letter of of correction on that. I was wondering if we had any movement on that. >> I'm not able to answer that question. I don't know that answer. >> Any other discussion on boy? >> Mr. Wle. >> Yes. Uh the appointment of the auditor reminds me uh that uh some time ago um at your request I prepared remember the auditor came out with the audit and said that we don't have a an investment policy and so Dr. Bari Grant and I've reviewed a policy which I prepared and that policy needs to be discussed by
134the board in public meeting. There are decisions that the board will need to make and I'm happy to go through those with you, but we either need to get this investment policy before the finance committee or the committee to the poll um to discuss the options that the board has and I would suggest and I know Mrs. Lens has looked at this too. I would suggest that we invite the auditor to come to that meeting to talk about the investment policy but we need an investment policy. I've drafted one that will serve the purpose of having a discussion about it, but there are um specific decisions that the board needs to make that are not in place. Um so, uh that should be something that assuming you're going to renew the auditor, we should invite
135them. And that's a thing that we need to do to make sure before we get to the next audit, we don't want the second audit that says you don't have a policy. >> Thank you, Mr. Ch. >> Any other discussion with the agreement with Warren Ritter? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative to use them as our auditor unless I secure a negative abstain. 10R recommended approval of the middle school FFA program activities and fundraisers. The middle school principal Clarissa N on behalf of the officers and advisers of the middle school requests approval of proposed 2627 program and activities. Uh they are also asking approval for a fruit sale in December, a strawberry fundraiser in March and a fudge fundraiser in March. Also, the administration recommends the board of school directors approve
136the program activities and fundraisers as presented. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shade. I would just like to comment. I had the opportunity to bring them back from their uh Europe trip. uh even though they retired, they were very excited and I think it's very commendable that middle school FFA, one of the first in the state uh actually took students to uh Europe to visit agricultural spots and I think it was a tremendous accomplishment and achievement for our program. Any other discussion? Hearing none, I assume we're all voting in the affirmative to approve their program activities and their fundraisers as presented unless I hear a negative or abstain. 10s recommended acknowledgement of the additional 2627 Christ employees. Christ transportation has submitted additional drivers
137for the 2627 school year. The administration recommends the board of school directors acknowledge receipt of the additional employees for prize transportation. Do I have a motion, please? >> Motion. >> Do I have a second? >> Second, Mr. Shady. Um, any discussion? Hearing none action is to acknowledge receipt. I assume everyone will vote in the affirmative unless I hear a negative or abstaining. Okay, that concludes the regular business for this evening. We'll move on to some information items. These will come up at another date. Uh the turf field has been professionally serviced and GMAX testing shows there are no abnormalities need to report. Contracted staff update. Um we have Dr. Sanders provide the following contracted staff. Recommended curriculum changes. Elementary grade four and five science middle school course high school accounting career project chamber singers college
138preparatory writing computer science foundations concert course and electronics. And there's a whole list on the back side. English I'm not going to read them all. French BA history is new plant and greenhouse retail management. Spanish galore and video game music and interactive sound design which is new. Uh these are to be looked at by the board and they have been revised by our teachers and our administration and they will come up at a later meeting. Um moving on to board reports council we have a meeting this Wednesday I believe August 5th at 7 a.m. Mr. Brown, Mr. Steel, anyone want to share anything else? >> I'll be there bright and early. >> Okay. bring donuts. >> 11 a.m. >> 7 a.m. Thank you. I'll be there, too. Uh 12B building and property committee. U Mr.
139David Fisher. Anything specific? >> Not that I know of. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Fisher. 12C capital unit. Alison Malot is distant member. We'll call her. She's not with us this evening, but she represents and does give us a report when she's able to give one. Couple of Perry area CDC. Some good news. uh they are ready for students they hope. Um as of our last meeting on August 26th um I would no August 26 that's when the students are coming. >> Oh I thought you said your last meeting August 26th. >> August 26 the students are coming at least they think they're ready for it. Uh we did get a little bit of an overview semi not tour but we were able to peek around corners. Uh Lobar is the general contractor. There's a
140lot of work being done. Um I would say they're 90% complete but there's still a lot of work to do but uh that is progressing nicely and um great opportunity for our students that were there before and they will be joining the vote or CTC program. Also we hired a new principal on temporary until December. Um we've also approved some other things to make things work. I think they're still looking for a healthcare pathways teacher and another teacher in the automotive field, but the positions are filled and things are happening quickly. I was at the last meeting and we'll be at the uh August meeting also. Um finance committee uh Mr. Shade, anything? >> Next meeting is October 19th. >> Thank you. Future ready comprehensive plan. Uh Mr. Shade or Mrs. Footh? >> Nothing. >>
141South Central Trust. Mr. Corman >> nothing at this time >> tax collection committee Mr. Fischer anything special >> high meeting was cancelled u didn't have anything to vote on lots of work um nothing to vote on so the cancer committee >> thank you Mr. Fisher. Uh, wellness committee. Uh, Mrs. Mal's not here. Mr. Corman, anything special? >> Not at this time. We're waiting for the next meeting. Um, which I'm not sure when that's going to be yet, but I'll let everybody know once we have a date established. >> Very good. PSBA voting delegates. Thank you, Mr. Brown and Mr. Corman. Uh, I think your assembly is Saturday, November 7th, if I'm correct. Thank you for representing us and going there at 9:00 a.m. Future board agenda items, anything from the floor. >> Mr. King, solicitor,
142do you have anything to share at this time? >> I have a couple of things. >> Number one, uh, well, the investment policy I spoke to. >> Yes. >> Number two, um, on the social media case, uh, it's quite interesting. the um there is um an attempt um and by the way the last school case was settled and I think I reported that to you for $27 million in Breton County, Kentucky. Um and there is a move by Mr. Zuckerberg trying to get Congress to uh impose immunity for him and other operators against the lawsuits that have been filed. Um there's a very important meeting of the Senate's uh science committee on Wednesday which we hope will um not grant uh Mr. Zuckerberg what he's after. Um and I think there's a bipartisan effort on
143on both sides, not all of them, but on both sides to um to stop him from doing that. But he's made a an outright effort to try to get Congress now to stop um his liability. And of course that would impact the big spring school district and and about over 100 school districts that we represent in this stuff. So I'm hopeful that he's not successful, but I'll keep you advised of that. Um we're um we've been quite busy with Dr. Grante. I won't say this to say the case, but there have been a lot of right and done requests. Uh there have been suit filed in the human relations commission, one in the Cumberland County Court of Common please. Um and so I want to thank Dr. Dante publicly for his leadership and effort in
144responding. People have a right to file these things and um I'll stand up for anybody's right to do that, but doesn't mean that it isn't a lot of work. And so um defending the school district and answering the issues that have come up. There's a FURPA report coming. Uh there's a title N investigation. So all of these things are are happening at the same time. So I just wanted to thank both Mrs. Slims and Dr. for their work. It's an awful lot of work and uh they've done a lot of the work which keeps some of the cost down but it's an expensive proposition to do these things. So I just wanted to say that out loud for you. >> Thank you Mr. >> Dr. Ronte your report please. >> Um yeah thank you. That's
145it's a team effort. So, I mean, you mentioned a few, but it's the whole office to be honest with you because everybody shares and pitches in. Um, we work very hard at the end of the year to get ready for the next year and we work throughout the whole entire summer to get ready for the next year. Uh, we worked hard to get schedules somewhat finalized to a great extent prior to the exit of students at the end of our previous school year. We opened up Aspen Portal today at 7 a.m. and by 200 p.m. uh we had 8 800 distinct loginins. So if our kids aren't sitting around waiting to see what's going on, they're waiting to see what's going on. So that's uh that's good for the tech team, that's good for the
146building administration, that's good for the guidance counselors, and all the teachers have put a great deal of time and effort in because the students are waiting for that. Uh we had we were well represented at the Sippersburg fair. We had 12 high school students and three middle school students exhibited. Um accolades range from grand champion, reserve, reserve champion, banners, and showmanship awards. Uh but something that when I talked with our FFA advisors, the thing that they're most proud of is they use these terms growth, confidence, responsibility, and work ethic. And that's basically all attributed to our students under the leadership of our adviserss. uh something that we get every summer in addition to the state metrics relative to uh exams and achievement uh we get our AP exam results. So last year we had eight
147students two years ago we had eight students that received distinction and this past year we had 17 students that earned uh what they call designation. Uh eight students I'll go through the three phases of designation. eight students scored three or higher on three AP exams. So that's a three or higher on three AP exam. Uh you can get a scholar with honor and we had four students that were designated with scholar with honor and that means they scored an average of 3.25 out of five um with no score less than three and they took four. You follow all that? So 3.25 25 average, can't score less than three, and you took a minimum of four exams. And then the ultimate one in the grand champion of them all would be a scholar with distinction. And
148we had three students that qualified in that category. And that's because they scored an average of 3.5 with nothing under a three. And they took no less than five exams. So we're we're continuously try to raise the bar on rigor. I think these students um exemplify that uh and I think they should be applauded for their effort. Update on kindergarten registration. We have 161 who completed kindergarten registrations at this point in time with eight more in the queue. We got 60 at Mount Rock, 41 at Newville, and 60 at Oak Flat. Uh Newville seems to be picking up the pace now with some of the ones that are in the queue. Uh and the most I have a I have a graphic up there if you want to turn around and look. I don't want
149to read every single one of those. We will be promoting those both at the school level and with our district social media accounts relative to the before school activities. Uh the most important but not listed there would be kids are coming back to us on the 25th of August. But that highlights when we're going to have our back to school new new student orientation. So once we get into basically two weeks from now, right after our next board meeting, um it's going to pick up at a pretty rapid pace and preparation will mostly be done at that point in time and whatever we don't have done, we're going to have to pick up space to make sure it's ready for the kids to come in. It's all I have, Mr. W. >> Thank you, Dr.
150Grande and Dr. Sanders and and everyone that is preparing it for our students to return. Uh do we have any public comment at this time? Hearing seeing none uh business from the floor board member comments, Mr. Davy Fischer, please. >> Nothing. >> Thank you, Mr. Fisher. Mr. Foreman. Um I'm just going to second on the job well done by our FAA, our future farmers students. They're awesome. They've always been awesome. Um and they continue to show that uh farmers are the best. Thank you, Mr. Far. Um, Mr. Brown, please. >> The marching band is in full swing. Their second week of band camp jam. I do have a quick update here from Dr. Noble that he did post in the big spring music alumni Facebook group. Um, you know, the undergirl season last year was
1512025 was the first championship in excuse me, 14 years for Big Spring March Bulldogs. Uh, the theme of the show this year for the 2026 production is for whom the bell calls, uh, which is a pretty good name. They have 52 marching students on the field this year. I shouldn't say marching in front ensemble because some are on the front ensemble. So, uh that's an amazing number I think for the marching bulldogs group. So, we're very proud of them. Um also, they do have a time at in the evening that you can go and witness their practice, excuse me, their their rehearsals if you'd like. He does request that if you do go see them from between now and their last day is Thursday, I believe you go between 8 and 8:45 p.m. Stay off
152to the side, be quiet, be respectful, all those things. But it'd be great to go cheer on these marching Bulldogs and hopefully we can do a brief peak here in the 2026 season. So, um I'm pretty excited to get out there hopefully tomorrow or Thursday even myself to witness some of this great music being put on the field. But other than that, hopefully everyone had a great summer and can't wait to get things started for this next school year. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Mrs. Malot, you're still not with us. Is that correct? Very good. Mr. Myers, please. Uh yeah, just a couple of things. Uh Dr. Grande, how many positions do we need to fill yet to start school? I'm going to work with Dr. Sanders for >> Are we getting close? >> The
153the It's getting closer. I keep looking and it's shrinking. So, uh we have a few positions um that are open. Uh school psychologists, we have two. Um, and then we're looking for special education teachers. >> Uh, also, do we have an update on the uh sale of land? >> Yes, we're going to open those bids uh September 1st. >> Okay. >> So, and I'm not sure at this point in time that we've received anything. Last update, we had not received anything. >> Doesn't the bid close on the 19th, I think. >> Yeah, I think. Yeah, >> I can speak to that a little bit. I did visit this off the cuff, I guess, with a couple people close by and there wasn't a lot of interest. It seems like we may need to, and Mr.
154King, correct me if I'm wrong, uh, donating or attached to it and donating property or something to get it off of our plate. Uh, because the people that I met with said, "Well, you can't do anything with us. It's it's a swale. It's only 51 ft wide. You can't even turn around a tractor in it. Um so it's it's kind of landlocked. >> So give it to them whether they want it or not. >> Somebody's selling the grass to you. >> Yeah. >> Oh, and uh could we have this is Michael um McIntyre do a presentation of a trip to Italy for >> Certainly. We can require >> Mr. Shady. Okay. Okay. Mrs. B. >> It's currently 9:07 and we started listening a little late. Um, after the committee, the whole ended at 7:38. And
155I know in the middle of discussion it seemed like maybe we were only discussing that one particular item for an hour. Obviously we were not may feel that way >> but I did not feel that having discussions is a waste of time. I think bringing up issues with our contracts that we are asked to approve is very important. The services that these groups are providing to our students are very important and it's very important that we as a board are well aware of what is going on and what the expectations are and if they're expected to pay us $1 a month or 10 for example. Um and it also important to know why the decisions are made. Why are elementary school students being cut out of this agreement versus um the high school and middle
156school? If therapists are available, why would we have decided to cut the services to elementary school but not the high school and middle school? The middle school has usually had four students serving. Um if things don't go your way and you're running the meeting or you're the ones in charge, um it's hard to backpedal and just curve ball after the fact. um the motion failed or it was had more nos than yeses and then it was weighed in that it would say no as well which effectively killed that motion and then the time wasting was over but we all represent people each one of us represents people and they do care about these issues it's important and so every discussion we have is important to someone very important to some people so it's important to
157keep the communication open and and not try to shut that down if that's not something you want to hear. Um I think we all need to hear these things. Um and I would like to formally request a list of other for-profit companies, medical um companies that give up provide some kind of medical service that is not not required by the state that is charging parents or insurance that go like to see a complete list of those because it was implied. I would like to know who they are. I also like to request that we do have information presented on the investment policy at our earliest convenience and committee as a whole with our auditors so we can get that arranged as soon as possible. >> Thank you, Mrs. B. Mr. >> No, nothing. If you're
158close to me tonight, as I arrived on campus, I saw soccer, softball, baseball, fields being used for different groups, the band practicing. Uh, I was also up to Shippensburg fair and saw our students and and their participation, which I thought was outstanding. Um, in just over two weeks, we're going to be walking the students back to our campus um for not only academics, but also athletics, for their clubs, and all the things they want to participate in. So, we want to be ready, uh, be enthused and be ready to welcome them to to their school, to your school as the public. Um, I want to encourage you to visit the Attic Expo, which is this week. Um, that's a big thing for some of our students and community out at the Newville Fairgrounds, and I
159know there's a fair happening Thursday, Friday, and Saturday somewhere. So, we might help out that fire company. But, um, this is a time of growth, but it's al also a time of expectation. and enthusiasm and we want to encourage those students to join us in a very positive way. That's all I have for this evening. Do I have anything else from the board? Hearing none. Do I have the motion to return? >> Motion, Mr. Myers. I have a second. >> Second, Mr. Shade. I hear no discussion. There is none. I assume I want to vote affirmative. I hear a negative abstain. Motion carries. >> M. Where do you want to?