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July 10, 2025 Board of Education Meeting

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YouTube / Canajoharie Schools
Date
2025-07-16
Location
Montgomery County, NY
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Transcript
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6,227 words · about 35 min
Collected
2026-10-06

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0011 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The real organization meeting to order 1st point on the agenda is administering the oath of office to the member of the board, which I gathered in me. Yes, so we could have administered the oath. 2 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I'm gonna send that down to you and you can read your open. I do hear by pledge and declare I will support the constitution of the United States of America and the constitution of the state of New York, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the position of board of. 3 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Location member of the Canada Jerry central school District according to the best of my ability. 4 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Hey, I just signed it in on that memorized by now? Okay so the

0021st point on the agenda is elections and 1st is a nomination for president of the board of education. Do I have such a nomination? 5 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Second. Okay, and I guess we need to vote on each one as we go down or Let's on each one. So all in favor. Posed. I'm almost, but i'll cuckle the yes. 6 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Alrighty and then we have election of the vice president with power to exercise duties at president in case of absence or disability of president. I nominate Heidi. Second, can you all in favor? Hi. 7 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Do I go? She didn't say yes, but. Okay, and we got the office of President of the Ordinister both to Office of the President of the United of the United States.

0038 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That's a promotion right there. Okay, I do hear my pledge and declare I will support the constitution of the United States of America and the constitution of the state of New York, and that'll basically discharge the duties of the position of board of education's president. 9 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Well the Cajary central School district according to the best of my ability, take it away, Heidi. 10 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I do hear my pleasure declare that I will support the constitution of the United States of America and the constitution of the state of New York and that I will thankfully discharge the duties of the position of education vice president of the canitary central school District according to the best of my ability. 11 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay.

004Okay. Thank you. 12 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I will move on to consent appointments, oh sorry board of education committees, I missed that. One thing I would like to add is that I think we should have add a, there are two committees that we should add to this is one is the safety committee. 13 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And the other is the merger thing. The CFP development panel. That's what we're gonna call. Because it might not be merger, it might be originalization or stuff like that. CFP. CFP developmental panel. CFP development panel. 14 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Development and ok so all agreed that we could add those two to committees and then we'll have to decide who's gonna be on them? Yes. And the safety committee. Just one, right? Yeah, that's. 15 "Canajoharie

005CS BoE" (4043594240) And and the other committee, the CFP committee will require to correct both from us and as you indicated from to what point. So we'll we'll just start with go down the list. I guess just look at the whole thing building and grounds. These are all the. 16 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Current assignments that people have. I guess what I would ask ask, is there anybody that would like to change anything or are we happy with where things are at at this point before we get to the new committee. Okay, great. So let's go to the CFP committee. 17 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Do we have any volunteers to be on that committee? That's the merger. Where we go from here? I'll be higher if you'd like to be on. Okay, so Keith

006and Heidi. 18 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, any other nomination of volunteers? Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to the next safety committee. Anyone would like to volunteer for that? I would like to unless. 19 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Somebody else would really like to go. Okay, I would like to ask for a like to call it a consented agenda for that? It's all in one so you can just alright I'd like to entertain a motion to approve the committee assignments. 20 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Of favor. Thank you. 21 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Moving right along annual consent appointments, I would entertain a motion for a consent agenda, please. Motion second all in paper. Thank you. Okay, so we'll just go down district Clerk we've got anything. 22 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, just

007a precursor before we start, they're all the same that we've had. The only addition is because her accompanies that went up a little bit, so we just had to document it. All right, so why don't we just, I don't think we have to go through each one. Just kind of look down the list and see if you have any questions. 23 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Is that any of them? 24 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) It's nice to have some consistency for sure to change things. Are those separates the same or did they increase? Increase because the volts communities increase or we only still go over. Yep. 25 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So we can steal the rest of the substance. 26 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So just let me know when you're finished towards on

008the website everybody ok I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda? Second. Oh, in favor. Thank you. And then we get to authorizations. 27 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And again, I would entertain a motion to work concept agenda. Second. Second. All in favor. Thank you. Nothing different here. 28 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Doesn't save them the loading super would be. No, we don't have a point that until April. 29 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, let me questions on this? I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda for authorization. Motion, second. All in favor. Thank you. 30 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, and the next point is the presentation by cues. So take it away queues. Andrea I emailed and I wasn't sure if that could be presented out here on the

009purposes. Hi everybody. 31 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You guys are familiar with that? I just want to start with two remarks before we started I wanted to thank Dr. Cheryl 1st from the board that through this entire process, he has kept it completely not contentious in any capacity. He's been very formal about, hey, this is just procedure and we appreciate that because this is new to us. I know all of you is more. 32 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Members have been involved in the union for, greater than 20 years have never gone to this process. 33 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) To this extent. So even though we've gotten to this extent, he has been with the utmost professionalism, we wanted to thank him for that. So thank you. Vice versa. And so we wanted also

010to thank the board of education for this opportunity because we've never had this chance to have to do this. So this is just, I know this is a little tiny. 34 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Hard for us to see if we have some printed copies of it easier, but it's just kind of want to take maybe NO more than 10 min of your time to kind of walk us through excuse me check. Yes sir. Can you pass out there can text. So part of our part of this level of the presentation is really about under. 35 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) We're seeing an urgent of ways we we see the contract versus the way the district has viewed the contract. It is not about we're right or the, you know, in this case Doctoryl was

011wrong, which has nothing to do with right or wrong here, we felt like it's just interpretation wise, and that briefly we wanted to just kind of point. 36 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) History of the language in which we're you know the grievance started with. It started over personally interpretation, and it happened to be that we went back and viewed a portion of the contract, as dr. Miss Cheryl and I both agree, we kind of view it differently at different parts of the language. 37 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So our focus has been on really the specific beginning part of the language that had been in the contract from 1968 to 2012. The virtually the language didn't change at all from from 68 to 2012, it remained very much the same. Minor adjustments to the language

012had something to do with superged and approved. 38 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) In 1968I think it just was a blatant, a blatant statement about the uses of personal time. And then after that, maybe in the mid seventies I think we found there was a language where it became approval process where we had to contact the superhendent. That language really remained pretty much unchanged until 2012. In 2013. 39 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) With the, under the superintendent Debbie Grimshaw, we negotiated changes to the contract that gave two of those five personal days, had been five personal days since 1968, and two of those days we have negotiated to be what that was called in the contract as undesignated days. 40 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Those days, what are they called? Undesignated. Those days being undesigated did

013not need any prior approval from the superintendent and were viewed as use of personal business issues, ok? With that remain for that 30 year contract that we had, and so we renegotiated again in 2017 and. 41 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And that lasted in 2021 where that same language just included now a 3rd personal day. So out of the five personal days in total, three of those days continue to be what we refer to as undesignated days. They did not need prior approval, and they simply were again for personal, for personal business. 42 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Right? In 2022 under the negotiations with Doctoral, those days were under discussion again, the same kind of discussion that we had had probably for ten years or more previous to this. The same kind of point was

014to say that these personal these days for personal business didn't require approval for. 43 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The superintendent because it was somewhat subjective and then we wanted it and wanted it and agreed to. 44 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Under dr. Mitcheryl of five days without the loss of paid for personal business during the school year, NO prior approval was needed for all the days. The reason the word undesignated was removed at that point is because we recognize there's now NO need to distinguish between the days, some were undesignated, somewhere out. They all became undesignated. That was kind of part of our. 45 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Negotiations what we felt as, and in our understanding those days would be used for personal business, but certainly not to make the district look poorly. We

015were all in agreement from that point on and through our conversations that somebody wasn't to use those days. 46 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) As our language currently states, to extend school holidays vacations or recesses without that, without having a conversation or without approval for the, from the superintendent. And though that language remained in the contract. Well, these days though. 47 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Did give us some latitude to use them for our personal business. So the reason for this grievance kind of came to be when a, when a person saw to use a personal day for a religious event with her husband who was a pastor, and she wanted to attend this conference with him and was denied the day's day of the personal use. We felt like that was. 48 "Canajoharie CS BoE"

016(4043594240) Where the violation begin. The conversations started around them. So we really are just trying to remedy and our purpose of our today was just to say, hey, we have seen the language progressively changed since 2013 with active negotiations as part of our benefits package for from an employee of the district. 49 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) To have those personal days of use, for our use. Now again, there was some understanding that certain days wouldn't be used. Vacations couldn't be extended without a 30 day notice. There were certain events would come up that we had to seek out approval, but this didn't need approval. 50 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The person wasn't using it for anything other than a personal business and she was denied that person they use, ok? Can I slide this up

017or can You don't mind just a little bit. We recognize that that really fell under some really contractual contradictions. 51 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) In our 2000, what was it, 2022 negotiations, we have an audio recording that went back went back in just a review of some of the conversations we had and Doctoral and I both had an active conversation at that point about that there were was language in the contract that just seems to not be fitted. Like there's. 52 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) This language it doesn't fit any longer. It doesn't fit not for any other reason and as times change, things occur, we just don't need them any longer or there's redundancies or just it doesn't apply. One of which we found just as a point of note is still in this

018particular specific contract. 53 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Under I think it's article 16, all teachers shall be required to pass the satisfactory physical physical examination once a year by 1 September of the school year. Clearly none of us have to go to the dr. and get a physical to be able to to any more. But the language still remains here. As this other language throughout the contract, it just. 54 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Seems contradictive. There's a language in here that says that in our contract that says the teachers will be provided a phone number that if you're going to be absent from school you can contact and let them know you're not going to be absent. 55 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Well, that's our self service. No, we don't have a phone number, right?

019These are all things built into the contract that have maybe been there since the sixties, that we just, they don't apply any order, and the language that we are under the impression of and the language that Doctory's under the impression are just the same kind of thing. Redundancies and contractual contradictions and just so. 56 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Unreply. And again, even in that conversation we had at the negotiating table, we both were in agreement that we really probably should sit down and go through a fine with a fine truth goal and maybe kind of clean up some of those languages. 57 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) If you could just slide that up for just one more moment for me. This would be my last point. Really our remedy and in closing, all we were

020hoping for is to come to a resolution that we understand that sometimes that there's going to be wait a minute, it says right here you can and wait, this says something different. We both agree. 58 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That that maybe, that maybe the case, but there's just things that don't NO longer fit. They don't fit to what we have in our, the way that the workspace works today. It just doesn't fit and that we feel that with the help of the board of education, we'd be happy to open up to some sort of level of negotiations where we could come up with some current practice that worked better for our current practice. 59 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) We're really just looking for a resolution that says, hey, yeah, why don't you get together

021to figure this out and figure out how we can move forward where both parties really fit with what the current practice should be. 60 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The referred languages are right here. Now they are simple stiffs just for you to see of where we were specifically targeting from 2000 1318 and 2025. The omission is in there. All those contracts are available to you and we're not omitting anything for not for you to see, but this was the point where we were focusing on throughout this. 61 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) All good spaces. 62 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The board has 30 days as part of the resolution in our contract if 30 days, we don't expect any decisions to be made, we just wanted an opportunity to come speak with all of you,

022let you know we thank you for your time, but to also say this has been our version. It's a little differently because. 63 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You know, the person you used today unknowingly thinking that the day was being misused or gonna be lost to pay. She thought she was following the contract to to the nature of what she had available to her, only to find out that that day was being said, No, you could not. So it was again kind of that wait a minute, I were just at a misunderstanding, we're hoping. 64 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That, you know, we take into the consideration that over time, the language has changed and that we all can kind of come to agreement that it's time for us to come to something that we

023can all agree about. So with that, I don't have I have nothing else but I thank you all. If you have any questions, I have one question During Debbie's period I remember there was an effort to clean up the. 65 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Contract. Can I have yeah ok got it. 66 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And ever to clean up the contract language and go through and it was quite a task, so it was an ongoing thing to get rid of obsolete language and so on and so forth. So over those years, the last whatever period of time have you been going through the contract and weeding that out? We have never formally sat down again and they went through. 67 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) To negotiate any specific changes. And it's been discussed

024because there are redundancies. 68 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Things that NO longer apply. I mean, these were just a few that we found to be a little silly. Like, again, there might be another one in there about all employees, all new hires must have a satisfactory fiscal done by the physician, the school's physician paid for by the board of education prior to the employment. We all recognize these are just things. 69 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Is that like, yeah, that doesn't fit anymore. Now, had we gone through with a fine tooth film, I'm certain there would have been times that dr. Fitchrell and myself if I was the one in charge, we would have had further conversation about it. Like, wait, this should stay and I'd be like NO NO NO. This should not stay,

025right? We didn't, we've ever had that point. 70 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) But there are just different things that we looked at that we just were kind of like that's it's it's a little silly at this point, right? Things just evolved and we need to get to the point where like, yeah, you know what, we need to make some changes. Okay, well on behalf of the board I want to thank you for your presentation. We certainly will look at this carefully and discuss it and get back to you and then we can have. 71 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You know, some kind of negotiation about it to hopefully resolve these. We we like I said, we just appreciate this is the 1st time for all of us and I gave them everything. 72 "Canajoharie CS

026BoE" (4043594240) Like what we went the steps, so I gave him copies of that. Okay. And again, like I said, again, thanks to Doctoral. He is procedurally the guy who says this is not those words being used. John this is not personal at all, right? He's used those words. This is all about procedures. So this is just for us the same, a procedure, we're just thankful we have the opportunity to follow through the. 73 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Procedure to this point. So we appreciate you guys have a great rest of your summer. And again, I've been on the port for 17 years and this is my 1st experience. I just might get a lower tip with that. So i'm hoping it. So, ok. These guys dressed up in this formal. 74 "Canajoharie CS BoE"

027(4043594240) Get off the memory I just left the camp around the spot on my way back. I have NO excuse, but you and I wasn't on that same email saying these guys you know created this guys, thank you so much for everything. We appreciate what you guys do and we appreciate your time. Thank you. Yeah. 75 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Thank you. Yeah. Okay, well we have 10 min to kill. Sure. 76 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Second. The. 77 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Thank you. We could go through some of that. The 1st point on the agenda, questions or comments from the floor unless ghost here? I think we're do all the president and vice president? Yes, and you're both. 78 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Yeah. We added all the joint committee with the plane

028which Keith and Heidi agreed to. And Lori agreed to be on the safety committee. 79 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I'm very happy, thank you. Okay, so sorry my son tasked this because I don't have any questions. The 1st thing we need to discuss is our. 80 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Board self evaluation, what what I what I think would probably be the best procedures we there is a template that we could use, which has. 81 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And so I'd like to suggest that I send that out to the board members, we complete the template and then have a be a meeting to go over it and, and, you know, resolve any questions that have remain. Does that sound? Oh, so I would like to when So what we need to decide, but

029we'll have we have an August meeting. 82 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So why don't we at in August, I will get I will get that out to you in the next week or so and then in the August meeting we can take a date that's. 83 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Mutually agreeable to go. Is that ok? 6 August is the meeting, I believe. Yeah. On the August, 6 August is the border tree. Yes. Right. 84 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Right, if, you know, I was gonna off to if you wanted to go out to my house for that board retreat if you want to get out to school. Would be ok? Got a nice big round table outside? Sure. All right, and it's close to the order far. Ok, so. 85 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240)

030So like I said, I'll get I'll get out the template for you to fill it out and then in August we'll decide what to get together in October. 86 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay. All right, so moving on to the superintendent update, take it away Nick. All right. Yeah, we just talked about the we're calling the CFP developmental panel, which is the committee for the merger. 87 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And reorganization, that type of stuff. I sent stuff out to the faculty that had like five responses, so we only need two people there and we decided tonight that would be Keith and and Heidi to go on onto that committee. As we know we have a changeover in Fort Plane. I talked to Lauren today and I was hoping that she would put something

031out to the, to the. 88 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) To the faculty ASAP because I just don't want to push this until October again and so they're in a little bit of a turnover situation, so. 89 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I maybe suggest if you know anybody on the board to reach out to them and explain, you know, can we kind of keep this moving, you know what I mean, and put a committee together. I I, in a perfect world, I think we talked about timing. If it was ever going to go up for a merger again, I just don't think. 90 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) We're we want to put ourselves past the 1st week of November for our second vote. I don't think. I still firmly believe that I hope this board agreed

032I think you do. I don't think we wanna get into this January vote in Merge and July. I just I just don't think we do and. 91 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I wouldn't want to be a part of that. I I think it would be, you know, the summers you kind of get a little rebriefed and take a breath. That would be a nightmare time. So anyway, I still think we can move it along. I know some people I would, you know, like to pick from the committee. We already have our two here, so. 92 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) If we can at least have a meeting maybe before the next board meeting, it would be nice to then present some of our recommendations already. Who's gonna set that up? Who's directing that will contact

033us something like that. I would maybe reach out to some members who you might know and and say where you guys think you could be at this point and because. 93 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Super over there is kind of you know moving and if they wait for the the interim, the interim doesn't know the history. So them being on the committee, I don't think would help either because they don't know what the plight is. You know what I mean? They can maybe grab an extra board member if they want, put them on there, but. 94 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) We know what we're, where we're going with it, you know what I mean in terms of what the process is, whether that comes out to say, hey, let's continue on the merger or it

034says let's not or whatever. But to hold it up, I think this puts us all in a, in this game waiting, you know. Can I ask a question not yet chosen their two members. They chose their two members from their board, but now. 95 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) From their their faculty. 96 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, so I asked Lauren today or asked superintendent over there excuse me to to to please send an email out on Monday to their faculty and staff to see if anybody would be interested in doing a meeting, but nothing has been set in stone in terms of there was a comment about waiting for the interim to come in. That interim would be end of August. 97 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) September and then we know as an interim

035comes in, they're not gonna worry about that right now, so. 98 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I, I think our plate was let's get this moving and I thought at our last meeting that was the case, remember? Because originally was they didn't want to do it over the summer, then we said we put this committee together. Right, we could do it over the summer, right? And then put a recommendation back to the boards. Right. So I would, and I understand their situation, they're in fluct right now, right? So they're moving round. 99 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) But let's not hold progression up for our kids in the future because of that progression, right? So who are the two board members from Ford Planet? 100 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I don't know who they are. It was,

036it was Brenna and I, I guess we'd have to check the minutes to be sure. But even if you reached out to some people who you knew from the board had said, hey, where are you guys? You know what I mean? Well I mean I've I've had ongoing conversations with Brenna I would be glad to do that. She is remaining the president. 101 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, so I don't know and encourage her to move things along and get some of the faculty members and and say that, you know, we would like to have a meeting and I'll tell her who we have designated and that we'd like to move ahead and meeting in August. I would say very beauti. 102 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Because they're August our meeting is 10 august. Okay.

037103 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) At least the week before that meeting to have at least some preliminary discussions, you know? It did sound, it sounded like there was some frustration by board members that the superintendent process is being held up by not knowing what's happening, so it kind of felt like that's more. 104 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Incentive to to have the meetings and, and get to the determination of what this is going to be. Holding you up, then get moving on it so it can stop holding you up. In other words, you know? And I'm not here to fault anybody here, but I understand the crossover tennis coming too. 105 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That's trying to clean up, get onto the next job, but in the meantime, we can't stop our progressions so

038that's what I would kind of suggest. All right, so I I will I will reach out to then I'll get in touch with you both and you as well. And i'll reach out to the people who wanted to. 106 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You know, be a part of it and tell them you know we're ready for the community's not day check. And I'm hearing a lot of interest from our community. I can't speak to theirs, but I did have a garage out for three days and I must have when appropriate. I spoke to them mostly they were village resource because we were discussing other things but item one. 107 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) B was their feelings on that and I only had one person as an employee support that wasn't sure about. 108

039"Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) What it would offer these benefits as soon as whatever, but I'm not exaggerating when I say there were probably 25, at least good families and parents that were all for it, and some of them just didn't know some of the details, some were out of town, some were this, some were that. 109 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) But that close number, just based on my conversations, I'm confident. I just think we can't get hung up in the in the negative, that's why when I said the last meeting, what's our goal? And we all know what our goals is the progression of students and and programs for our kids, right? 110 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Don't let, whatever that maybe. If it turns out to be non emergent, that's fine, but let's continue

040our progression and don't let it be held up because of negativity or a group of people who might not like something because that's always gonna be there. But in addition, as you know. 111 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Of all the benefits for the students, this particular community and the taxes that they're going through. Sure, not that it should be about money, but that is certainly something they're bringing up that we can't forget, at least village residents why they that was not an issue then, but it's certainly an issue now as far as. 112 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) It's a great example of what's gonna happen if we don't start. Exactly that's kind of thing they kept saying to me and why have our kids suffer? 113 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Why have it go through,

041and that's what's happening. Kids have suffered for a year or two before it happens, so, and again maybe the committee comes together and both boards decide not to. That's fine too, but we'd be crazy not to approach it. You know my feelings on it, i'm strongly for it, I just think it's best for kids and I think it's best for the future of the programming for our, for, for our kids. 114 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And, and we're, we're not behind, but this this world's moving very fast, and if we don't give our kids these opportunities, we're gonna we're missing out for the long direction. I just don't want to get caught up in like this series of meetings because this is also like a meeting that could be an email. It's a pretty simple.

042115 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You would. It's a very simple conversation. Yeah. We don't need to have three meetings before we do a. Let's discuss it and let's get going, yeah. So, so work on that. Nick and I are presenting at the rule schools conference on Monday at the classic for academies, which will be a nice presentation to begin. 116 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Mark, we gotta meet, we'll talk, we're presenting in October of the Nisba conference in New York City on board governance and how well we all go. 117 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Awesome works up. We get it along? Yes. Preliminary numbers, we started our capital project rollout. It's always frustrating to see the numbers. A couple years ago we had $24 million in a building condition survey. 118 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240)

043To fix everything, and then we did a $7 million project at the geothermal of 14, which should take off some of that plus the seven. So in your mind, you're like, wow, we come into 27 million, we should be fine. But now there's $40 million of improvements to make, right? So, so we looked at it. 119 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Thoroughly Mark, Aleah and the and the group next week, next week the week next week or next week already, the 17th? Oh, it's next week already? Oh my god. We'll be looking at the granular piece of what Steve and I and and the group said was high priority, lean and priority low priority, and I think we're gonna come in around. 120 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) 27 million, so. 121 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) It'll

044be interesting to see what those pieces fall, then we'll put a committee together from stakeholders from the community and then we'll roll it out. The 97 % of this is needs 3 % of this a lot. You know what I mean in terms of certain things, so just to make sure we fix, but it allows us to really get updated and let's think about this. You're ready? 122 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) 27 million, 7 million current project, $14 million project and a $3 million project on the solar. $50 million worth of projects in the last five or seven years. So we, we should be where we should be for our our. 123 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Our facilities, so and that didn't cost taxpayers but not 16 July. July. Let me just make sure. It's

045the 7th 17th at 10:00 A.M.. 124 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That's building grounds, right? Yes. Well, that's just with you in this one. Oh, yeah. That was just the board? No, they both are gone. That's fine. It was both on the board buildings and grounds. I don't know, I have to go back and look at this. 125 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Who will be doing the. If you can make it next week, I can make it next. 10:00? Yeah. Perfect. 126 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) What's the date name? 17th to 10:00 a.m.. Up at the high school? What day you go? Thursday. Yeah, and we'll have King King will be there and someone's schoolhouse. 127 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Which is our managers of projects so you'll send something out. Yes. Okay, are you finished?

046I am all set at this point, ok? So we'll move on to the consent agenda. I would entertain a motion. 128 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) For a consent agenda? For approval for approvals? Oh favor, thank you. Okay, so we'll just run down the the minutes for the joint meeting with plane. Any comments there? Questions? 129 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Then we have minutes for the regular meeting from 18 June that follows the joint meeting. Questions? Nope, ok. Bills, as usual, I have a few. You ready? 130 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay. 131 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) 60 7188. Amazon Capital Services $3000. What is that for? Amazon. Amazon? Oh, we do. Why do we call it capital services? That's just who the dead truck has to be paid off to. Okay, so that's just. 132

047"Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, good stuff. I mean stuff, sorry. 133 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay one of the things I I just want to raise this and you know, is there any opportunity to buy any of this stuff for local businesses? 134 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Versus from I know it's very easy from Amazon, but office device that's local. Other than that, a lot of stuff now comes from Amazon. There's NO other place around here. 135 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Sucks. Okay, I just like a dollar store, you know, stuff like that but Well, I mean the one over in sometimes are like jobs town, but it's not yeah so then 67 02:31. 136 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And six and check number one oh two and one oh five to SEI. Yeah, that's

048our architect. Yeah that but I thought that we would don't, they would not gonna have them they still continue till the last project. Well, so this is yeah tying up the last project. 137 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That they were. They're on the geothermal as well because they were built into it. Remember these things were. No, NO, I was just wondering, you know cause I know that we've made the decision to to you know transition to King and King. Correct. They'll be out the King King will be on the capital projects and all projects thereafter. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yep, that's what it was just confusing. 138 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, and then my last one is, 67 01:30. What is crown Company incorporated? That's Prime Yeah, that's what one of Steve's companies that

049he uses for supplies. They're out of Johnson, they were out of johnsdown, but they just got bought up. 139 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) That their supplies? Yeah. Okay, thank you. Okay, any other questions on bills? Probably not. No. Okay, so moving along the treasurer's report, anything there? 140 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) And budget transfer schedule and surplus and district safety plan. Thank you for adding the designations, I appreciate it. Sure. 141 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, and then the base at health, same agreement system, the exam. Yeah. Cooperative bidding for capital region. That has to do with food service. 142 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, agreement for math and ELA consultants you want to just. Okay, so these are yeah they want us to go through either bocies or big consultants and $700 an hour

050without aid b. 143 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Because it's grand money, so we decided to contract them individually. They just don't come for the day, they'd be doing outside work as well. So they're contracted for a short amount of days, but they're also doing outside stuff at the end of the day and also analyticals and data stuff before they come in. So they're actually doing other stuff outside. 144 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay. Thank you recommended for Bosis who was working for them so any other questions about those two? And I'm sorry, just to echo again, you know how we get aid for bosies? So because this is grandmony, you can't get eight and grandmony. So when you get through bosies, you don't get. 145 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) You don't get the, the take

051back. Okay then moving on to the, the annual agreement with. I won't ask questions or I'd be here moment? The whole thing. 146 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) It's a lot on there. $3 million worth. Five resolutions or actually down. 147 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) A tuition. Oh I'm sorry yes. Tuition rates, any questions there? Definitions of who is eligible and not eligible for tuition. Same pretty much just. 148 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, and student to the electronic devices had to redo because of our esteemed better. And then finally bond resolution. I take a chance to read all that. 149 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) By the way I was just wondering if that was inside anything moving on the solar project oh August originally was July I thought, right? That's what I thought too. Yeah.

052What's the boom truck over there for? I don't know actually. It's a good question. Yeah I never said to the yeah. 150 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Oh, the air handling units. Is there what they put in? Okay what? The air handling units, they just told my husband. Put up in the transportation. Oh, ok. Okay, so we should start seeing some things going on up there in August. Yeah. Still stay operational by December or so. 151 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. Notion, second, all in favor. Thank you. Moving on to personnel, again, I would entertain a motion for a consent agenda. Notion. 152 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Second. All in favor. So we have the designation of the monitor, someone took the full time aiding, so

053what happens? New agenda item. Yep, sorry, that should say a point monitor. We got to appoint one more monitor. 153 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) For summer school because of it. That's the replacement of the monitor. Oh sorry. Yeah. 154 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay, anything there? The accept the resignation of the math teacher? What happened there? Because she moved back to be socking. So she found a job you can go find a job. Yeah, how many years was she hearing that for? Yeah. 155 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So she have ten here? Yeah. Same, but you're an hour, 4 min away. No, she's doing alright then we have about .5 26 advisors. 156 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) But I already have a good catch on the math teachers, so I already have a good catch

054in the math. I'm good. We'll see. Anything on the advisors? Did we have. 157 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) One question. I'm sorry guys, what is the chips club? That's the middle school. Middle school character building. One in a character building or character building? Okay, and then swim instructor, which is. 158 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Lindsay and Carrie? I was just wondering who now these are not teachers, are they? 159 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Who's the school instructor? No. Well one coach. Is she the one you have in store for math teachers? No. Student. 160 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So what I'm going? So why how do we use these people? What are they, who they instructed and how? Summers one last time. Oh summers when they have. Not their school. Yeah. We have 60 kids

055for summer, right? A hundred and 30 people. A hundred and 30. 161 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Oh. 162 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So then with similar transportation, this is the one I said we had to add the extra three special placements this year. And that would be Isabelle. 163 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Very good? Yes. Sounds on the other bus and other son's explaining the other bus. Okay, if there's NO further questions, I would entertain a motion to a few three percentage of personnel. 164 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So thank you. All in favor. Yep, thank you. Moving on to all business the retreat is scheduled for 6 August at 04:00 P.M. at time and we we need to have a discussion about what we would like to discuss. 165 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Okay,

056one thing I was thinking of, so maybe this should have been a second meeting in one of the months or whatever, but when Nick was talking about the AP program, I'm just very curious about where we are right now cause things gonna change since I've been here oh just doing it and just kind of like what do we offer, you know, in each one and how many kids are taking it. 166 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Maybe exams. 167 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Who's not? You know, that kind of thing. Okay. Are they in class and not taking an exam? That's, that's one of my concerns. So if you're taking any exam, but then you go, Oh I'm not gonna take the test. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. That always created a problem in my class and we

057got away from. 168 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I never let anybody not take the tests and all of a sudden it was the problem. Yeah. And it's like, NO. I tell you one good step. Because the academies, every case. So we should start to roll next couple of years of 3040 kids every class. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but kids go off to. 169 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) College intake class great but if you're in here, I think it's important for college classes here. 170 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So, the math, the calculus it always was, you could do one or the other AP or class or just from my research, AP class is transferable to a lot more colleges, where the state, you know, you take the state tests. 171 "Canajoharie CS BoE"

058(4043594240) I've been with getting close. You can go to all the state schools and get credit, you know, so it's like you can get credit for all the schools take it up between the two. 172 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Acknowledge a lot of the. 173 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Two one schools don't take that credit if you want to say that. So I'm just curious. Sounds good. There's something got my notes. I was just wondering, you know, is math and ELA. 174 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Issues that we're having. I think that would be good to discuss that and see what if anything we might come up with in terms of new initiatives that might address that. That's what I have too cause I just wanted to know since COVID happened and we switched over

059to you know having the tracking system, right? And going to teacher only and the teacher. 175 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Only said within the classroom. Are we still seeing gains in that just would like to see them, you know, see how it's gone. 176 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Yeah, I know. So what's the problem between the elementary and then the score? Right. Yeah, so what are the scores like in both of those, you know? Yep. And why and then even at the high school, you know, like the how many kids are going on and taking four years in bath or they just drop it out after two? Right. 177 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I know why I'm seeing these difficulties in, you know, they all know the middle school kids are a little squirrely, but

060everybody has NO school kids. 178 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) But everybody has NO school kids. Oh, oh, I know, I know. I understand. Yep. So I think I think that would be an interesting discussion. Yep. Yep. Anything else? That was my second. 179 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) So we're on the same page. Let meet marks. Alright, so the last thing we need to just go over quickly is is dinner. Yeah, do you want me to make something? I can make something or bring something. 180 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) The hotspots type thing or whatever, yeah? 181 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I can make the main meal if you guys all want to bring something on the side. Alright, so that. I can do a nice strip scandy though. Because why don't we do, you know,

061people can bring bring dishes and you can do the main for it. Okay. 182 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Yeah. All right. I would bring like maybe a vegetable dish. Okay. Yeah. That sounds good. Funny, if you want to do barbecue, you can do barbecue, you know? Good barbecue, really. Sound good? That's a great day. Port on the cop anybody? I could port on the cop too. 183 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) There's a screencord. 184 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) I know I'm kidding right now, it's nearly. Have you had that right? Wonderful. Yeah, I know Hannifers is wonderful. Just a little bit of a drive, that's all. What's your street address, I believe? 1234 Latimar Hill Road L A T I N E R. 185 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Thank you. Yep. Okay, so we'll we'll

062all bring addition Patty will do the main barbecue. Yep. Okay. Alrighty. There's NO new business. 186 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Anyone else have new business? Then we can recess into executive session. Motion recess. Second. All in favor. Have a good evening. 187 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) Which I would add you to read, please. So resolved that the Board of education, hereby denies the grievance filed by fuse as it relates to the use of personal leave. Do I have a second? Or any discussion? 188 "Canajoharie CS BoE" (4043594240) All in favor. Thank you. Is there anything else? Okay, I would have to take a motion to go home. You know I'm the other.

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