001Okay, it's 8 o'clock and we'll call the meeting order. Brandon won't be here today. Text earlier and said he wasn't going to make it. Um, we have any additions or changes to the agenda? Okay. All right. So, I would take a motion to approve the agenda. >> I move. >> All those in favor? >> 6 agenda. Any questions or anything you want to discuss on that? Where are they putting new grass at? >> In front of the whole junior junior high building >> that from the building to that man hole that's built up is where the is basically crushed. And so every year around winter time when we host that basketball tournament, we have good fertilizer. Well, if it's good fertilizer, not but anyway. So make double that up. And so we're just putting grass
002back down. Okay. Yeah. >> Oh, I saw you said something you said something about that they put the pieces of the sidewalk back in. Did that Did they need to do some concrete work on that or is it >> I think it's settled back. I haven't been over there lately to check. >> You know, I haven't been on there. They thought one day and I just kind of stayed that east side. >> Yeah. >> Well, I just noticed in his Ford report that he said something about they replace the old pieces of concrete to try to make it work. I'm like, well, they replace >> 10 ft of concrete sidewalk or something. >> I believe they got them out >> the square the square sections out pretty easy, but when they initially finished the work,
003it was offset. They said they needed something back in >> the sidewalk safe to walk on. >> It didn't catch my eye when I was walking through the buildings on Friday. So, I'll follow up on it. >> Anything else? I approve to I motion to approve consent agenda. >> All those in favor 6. >> Okay. Thanks. We are ready for discussion items unless any board members have any reports for us. Okay. Start with closed lunch. >> I just want Mr. Myers asked me to put this on just kind of bring this back. I know we had the discussion was it hereish? >> Yeah, we've had really I'm not proposing by any means we get rid of closed lunch. This came out of discussion at the teacher academy when we were looking at the uh staff
004climate u concerns and one of them was during lunchtime same 68 kids every single day coming to the office with parents on the phone releasing them to go eat. We've talked to um KASB and they've said there's nothing you can do about it. Close lot of policy or not. If a parent wants a kid to leave, they leave. Um and so the with no cell phones this year, that's going to make the traffic jam in there even worse because they'll all have to use the same phone or get the phones accessed and things like that. That's the the question was brought up. Do we um have I wouldn't say provide because I don't want to make this a widespread thing a form that a parent can sign saying my student has permission to leave during
005these times for whatever may be had some parents that just say hey he's going to get something else to eat. Some of them say he's got to let the dog out every day. So >> as a parent, I think it should be absolutely your kid can leave, but only with you. So if you come and pick them up, can they can leave? >> And K said no. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I my just my thought is does the traffic jam get rid of some of those? Don't really need >> I don't know. And did the biggest glut of our problem graduate last year because that class was notorious for it. Um I don't know that yet. Obviously, >> it's a little bit difficult for them to be able to do that though. Maybe >>
006it could be. >> It may be. >> It could be. >> That'll be over by the time they get up in the line, get on the phone. Might be a mid point. >> We could table it for now. I just wanted to have the discussion. >> What What's the advantage of a closed lunch if anybody can leave? Uh like what does an open lunch for another district look like? That's different. >> I think I think the concern there is what are they doing when they're out of the building unsupervised? You know, do we got a bunch of vape or drink? Does an open I guess. Let me clarify. Does an open lunch mean that any student can go anywhere during this 50 minute block of time or 20 minutes? Can a closed lunch? It means
007they can't only unless they have permission from the parent. Right. Okay. >> There's different there's different I guess layers. I know there's some districts that it's only a upper class with a that some. But again, the concern on it is the liability side that they're turning kids loose, especially >> when their parents expect them to be. Obviously, my concern is >> when you say liability because we'd have changed to an open policy or liability because the way things are now. >> No, if we were to let them know is you're sending kids out in vehicles willy-nilly and hoping to get through it and get back in 30 minutes. >> So, Jeeoff, whose responsibility insurance rights? We're responsible for the kids if they leave the school during the day for something and they in an like
008say they're going to the elementary school they get in an accident that's our liability. uh if they have parent permission, does that remove the liability from us for the time they are at lunch or are we still under liability because they are in school >> under worries me take my kid. You you you assume liability. Now, if they're going down to be a teacher's aid or something, that's probably a different situation because it's really still an extension of >> correct. And that that is our liability. But because they're still in school, the parent signs them out at lunch. That's on the parent thing. As soon as they step out those doors there, >> I wonder if we need a form that states that that that we're, you know, >> one more form. >> Yep. >>
009This is not something I want to put in the enrollment packet that we get from every parent and every kid has. This is a >> handout. >> Yeah. If if you've been in here 15 times, I'll make this available. Now, obviously, the word of mouth is going to get to the other ones, but >> I don't want to put undue stress on secretaries. At the same time, I think or at least I'm hopeful that the narrowing of channels to get communication back is going to slow it up because you're the ninth person in line, got 10 minutes left to lunch, and then if you come back, then that's then will they only be allowed to use the phone in the break room and not to walk around the desk and use the secretaries or Cheyenne?
010I mean, are they going to get access to everybody's phone or just one >> or they would ask permission to have their cell phone out so that they can in the office so that they can call their parent? >> I keep >> Again, we're just we're just speculating on what this may look like because sometimes it does get a little rude in there when they're all trying to uh get signed out permission at one at once and u scrambled all the out the eeries of >> Yeah. I mean community It's it's one of those things that >> we're not going to win. Um these same five families or six or seven or eight or whatever is they're going to do it every day. And so I'm almost looking for a way to say, you know,
011>> our kitchen staff has done a really good job and kind of challenged them and gave us some extra funds to >> elevate the >> That's great. But I don't think that's what this is. So >> they used to say that but >> yeah it's not it's not as much that >> I'd rather sit on for about see I'm a little nervous about putting the blanket for I'm fine with that it's >> I just wanted to keep it on the radar. Well let tell us in a month what what that office looks like every day. >> Then we'll work on it for you. Even if we even if it's the same five or six and they're just smarter about it and mom calls at 10:00 instead of 11:52 and they're all calling at the same
012time and we just have a note that Johnny, Timmy, and Susie have permission, then >> that's that's a different story. >> Maybe it's a breath and then we come back. >> Can you put um caveats? I don't I don't know when you say KSB doesn't you know allow I they have to make requests by a certain time or >> things around that nature. >> They're they're pretty clear that when a parent says I want my they could call and say I want my kid to go do a Met deal for me real quick. We can't stop them. >> Yeah. >> We can call the cops and let them know where they're going. >> We have called the cops when we know the kid is doesn't have a driver's license. If they're in the area, go
013ahead and get them. All right. I will just let you know how if anything develops. I just wanted some input. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh district needs assessment. >> Yeah, I just >> copy that on your >> Yes, it's on there 6B. Um we went over this in the board back in April. Um, and I think it's a good idea just for us to look through that and bring that back up for discussion as um, this will be referenced when we approve the budget uh, next month. Again, like I said, it's we we went over it the April board meeting, but sometimes our focus can change in other things. is going to bring that back into what our building uh teams feel like our needs and things that we can work on to improve our
014education. So, it's very similar to what it's been in the past, just goals are trying to recruit and retain high st or high quality staff. Um, I know that additional substitutes was on there and I can tell you and we have a couple more that we'll work on towards the end of the meeting today, but we probably got as healthy of a substitute um, pool as probably ever had, which is awesome. Um, so yeah. understood this is a KPI initiative. I never quite understood how you directly correlate this to the budget process. I mean, >> well, a lot of >> a lot of what we a lot of what we have in ours is increase salary, recruit, retain high quality staff. We always work on I mean our salaries are probably just thinking rough probably
015what 60 70% of our budget. >> Yeah. But there's no met there's no m metric in here to say okay we're going to have 70% or we're going to reach this salary level or this comparative salary level or this you know level of benefit. There's no there's no metric in here. >> Yeah. So I I don't I'm fine with it. I'm just saying I don't >> think it's great goals that has to be in the >> goals line with state statute. Yeah. >> Oh, I know. >> Seems like there would be a better way of doing it, doesn't it? Where where you could say, "Okay, well, we need >> I went to a number of dollars in this account to address this problem." I went to a couple workshops on this and which one specifically
016and uh I in hopes that to what are other districts doing, what's the I I didn't hear anything. That's what was kind of disheartening that I don't I think everybody's doing this. check the box and go. >> Anybody starts complaining about the budget, they can read that. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Wake them up in about two hours. >> Well, it quite frankly is the questions that the the VLTs worked on to compile theirs. You know, there's there's a lot of factors that go in go into play when you're looking at state assessment scores and everything else. Um, I to speak for our entire district and our staff. They're doing, you know, they're busting their tails doing they can to try to meet the needs of our kids. So, this just kind of puts
017it in writing, so to speak. Well, I I do I appreciate that in here you have references to not only things that are budget related, but there are other factors that go into student learning outside of just the dollars allocated. >> Communicating with families, community partners, just >> recognizing mental health, student personal challenges, stuff like that. Feel free to look over some more if you if you would like. Um, but we'll bring it up again next month as well again for budget hearing. >> It's not the one I brought and left last night. I did. >> You left another one and it gone. >> The good one is gone again. >> I did not take it. >> We're gonna have to find a place for you to hide that. I had a bunch of substitutes
018that I was going to say. >> This room was full >> right here. Right next to the right next to the >> Velcro pistol I keep under there just for safety. >> There's a box in my office that nobody's using for a mailbox. If you just want to stick it in there on your way out, pick it up on your way in, nobody will touch it. >> It's not that big a deal. I'm buying a Sam's Club by the giant box. Okay. um junior high cross country. >> Yeah, I'll I'll kind of get it started. I'll let Mr. Myers fall in, but we had some kids that had reached out and kind of communicated with Mr. Myers about the the opportunity for junior high cross country. Um there there's a lot of a lot of
019layers to that. Um but Mr. Myers has made contact a lot of league schools and and area schools and figure out those that do, how it works and and all of that. and uh he's kind of come up with a plan I think that that would I don't order suffice would would fit this year um considering that schedules are made all that stuff's been in place but um Pike Valley is one that particular that they I'll let you speak to that their coach uses football practices essentially the practice for the most part then they still have some opportunity to compete at some competitions. Most junior high is a mile. I think a couple might go up to two miles. 3K. >> How many kids do you have? >> I had four parents and four kids
020that approached me about it. Um that doesn't mean there might not be more because this wasn't even, you know, offered. Um so they didn't know it was an opportunity for them. Um like Mr. Cell said, the um talking to special like Mr. Cox over at Pike Valley U with our with our practices being during the day to hire another coach outside of we're already done with negotiations and that's a negotiated item. He said that they do they offer it as a dual opportunity where they get their conditioning for across the country during football practice or volleyball practice and then they attend the meets. Um um sometimes it's with the high school because they're the same day. Sometimes they're on different days that don't conflict with the junior high football volleyball schedule. >> So you you'd
021be letting junior high kids do two sports in one season. We haven't had that happen. >> We've never offered two sports in a season. >> There have never been. >> And and like he said, it's not really about, hey, we're trying to set records or anything. It's these are probably kids that may be doing cross country in high school. This is what it's like running out on a golf course and not getting lost. And this is what, you know, the gates at the end look like where you were, you know, just an exposure tool more than a um, you know, training heavily for it. It's because like Mr. Cell said, the the races are either one mile or two miles. So, they're kind of almost an exhibition at the beginning of a high school meet.
022>> It's the same as a track meet. >> Yeah. It's the same distance. >> You're done. You're done with the whole thing in 10 15 minutes. It's It's not exactly the same, but I know we had a kid do uh wrestling and basketball, and I know they were leaving and going to >> Boy, Zane Coulson did when I was coaching, >> but it's happened before. As far as >> And that was in junior high. >> That was junior high. >> Okay. Well, that's trying to think of that once in a season, but makes sense. There's four meets on the schedule that we think would fit in >> conflict with their other obligations for >> and then if there was our thoughts communicating was those that aren't playing football then we could find different ways if
023they wanted to if coach >> that's the more difficult problem because um they if you're not in football or volleyball then you're in a period of study hall and a period of PE which is kickball or something like that where you're not really getting any conditioning. So, um, but that also then brings it to where contingent to do the cross country, you have to do one of the other two sports. That's kind of >> Yeah, >> thoughts on that. Three, no, two of the four high schools already going, so it wouldn't be any different. One of them was a Saturday and one of them was Monday. I I like the idea of providing opportunities for our kids, but >> and we can say, you know, at this point in time, since we're beyond negotiations to
024get another sport added, if we were going to do that and a coach added that comes in at 2 o'clock every day, this is the best opportunity we can this hybrid opportunity that we can offer at this time. Well, we we I feel like we've been in this situation. Well, we just do a we can do a stipen for somebody if we if they if you know there's extra responsibility there or extra dates that they're going to meet, >> you know, then two extra days because all the rest are same days that they are going to a high school >> knowing that we don't have that in the negotiated agreement yet. >> You you can still stipen somebody and >> pay for the time. So I don't think that's a barrier. >> I don't have
025any issue with it. I I probably my bigger question is we had this discussion many moons ago about overall what our offerings are for that age group in general on you know what other activists kind of not long after we started robotics and had a you know quite a bit of interest as supplemental and you know are we just needs me to ask are there other things we should be looking at and then some things fade and go there I don't know that they all need to be a permanent supplemental thing are we offering Um, it doesn't always have to be a sport. Is it is it a club? Is it just opportunities for students to have other extracurricular opportunities outside of our traditional sports venues? So, I don't I don't have a problem with
026this, but it does lead me to wonder what else what else are kids interested. They just didn't know that they didn't they could ask for it. Uh I know I know I pretty sure Rex did a survey with students uh of kind of what their interests were. I I remember we talked about a board meeting. I don't remember ever acted or looked of you know what what kind of extra things could we offer. I said I don't know that all has to be a supplemental type system. I think if you look at other schools they offer lots of different clubs or the I look at like u one that I what was talked about was trap shooting I think was one of them. >> Yeah. Uh, one I know that's been extremely popular is the
027it's a it's the gaming there's a gaming club, esports, that's one. Uh, just stuff like, you know, chess club, things like that that some kids, you know, may not may not be a whole slew of them, but it's a few and it's enough that has a teacher or her and her staff member that says, "Hey, yeah, I'll help them out one day a week after school." >> Like the trap shooting one, for example, I talked to them because we had some kids interested at one time and it just kind of fizzled. but they they compete in bully troach and stuff but it's through a private club and so our kids could have joined that same club too and um whatever they wanted. There does become a concern and Mr. Duffy's expressed it that you know
028if we branch into cross country then we may be looking at having to co-op for junior high football. We just won't have the numbers anymore. >> Well that's but >> stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I want to provide as many opportunities as possible, but how can we work with to give them all the opportunities and not give offer one to take one away? >> No, I think that's all relative impact to especially sport. You got to have >> does it the way they do your conditioning during football or otherwise they would lose football. >> Yeah. Well, in a in a small school district that's anytime you add an activity that's always the concern is that you're going to pull kids from another one again. You don't have enough kids for that one. You know,
029I think if they've got the choice of being able to do both. >> Yeah. >> Um >> that's that's a good >> good way around that way around that. >> I guess the only other question then that we had is what what if one of these kids said I don't want it to football. I just want to do cross country. Do we help make that available to them when or do we make it a contingent? At least at this point in time because we haven't that's the feedback I kind of need. I don't know if we'll have that. I don't you know with those four kids I think they were fighting possible. >> You're saying like you got a kid right now who's play playing football or going to be playing football and it's just
030going to say I quit football to go do cross country >> or you can have other kids that say hey I just want to do cross country. I'm not interested in football. That's probably more likely than >> especially when since we want to have that thought through because now what we're saying is you can do cross country if you do football or volleyball >> and that's a tougher pill to swallow and I understand that. >> Um but it's >> so so a kid can't do cross country unless they're doing football. Well, that's the question that we're asking right now cuz >> you have a football coach condition. >> I get I get that, but that's that doesn't make any sense to me. >> Exactly. That's um >> you're going to require a kid to play
031football in order to run in cross country. >> Well, the the way that Pike Valley again is they get their conditioning during that time. They don't have a separate practice um where you wouldn't be in any conditioning if you just did study hall and PE. Now, I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying that that with with our practices when they are um >> because in order to incorporate it now, we've used essentially the same coach except for a few meets. >> Yes. >> To do it where it's >> like you said, this year is kind of a hybrid. Now, if we add it next year and he comes in at two o'clock every day and we have six kids and all they want to do is cross country, then that's what we do. >>
032Then you're talking a practice a co a practice coach. Yes. Right now, we don't have a practice >> right now. talking about just a guy that's going to bring him to two high school meets because there's a junior high division and then two meets that are >> whole new level of commitment at two o'clock every day. >> Yeah, exactly. That's why I said this year's kind of a because of the lateness of it is kind of a hybrid solution. >> Why can't they practice after school? >> They could. >> You'd be a great coach. >> Well, Shannon's already practicing after. Okay. I was going to pick on Mark for a little bit. >> But then it's how do they get home if parents aren't? that they >> so have to be just an arrangement >>
033evening and the other thing is >> there's a lot of interest this year and that's what I I told Mr. Myers too is we get all the kids back into start having conversations with sixth grade, fifth grade just to kind of garner interest moving forward too >> because so at this time we also talked about not making available to sixth grade because >> they aren't in any the boys aren't in any practices because they don't do junior high football. They do youth football if they do football. I don't know. probably a grade that would be beneficial and that would give them >> some opportunity, >> but they would have to practice after school then too because they they wouldn't have we don't have anybody at 2 o'clock to come in and practice with them. >>
034So, we would be changing they would still do if they didn't want to do football or volleyball but want to do cross country, they could practice after school. Could that be an option? >> I I think so. Then we're just down to the transportation thing where um again are we going to use the late bus that we use for the high school kids for these kids or um >> what be the downside to that? >> The only downside that I could see is um that if we have enough of these kids that decide to do just that, we may be having to look at a co-op this year. Um our numbers just aren't very great this year. think we might have 10 kids out for um junior high football. >> Yeah, girl. Girls isn't a
035problem. There's 35 girls out for volleyball. I mean, there and again, I'm not trying to play preferential on this. I'm sure it looks like that sometimes because of my past, but >> um that's why I want to have the conversation to make sure we have a consensus. I like the idea of offering if kids have interest. If kids have an interest and they want to do it, I think it's great. I don't know how to counter the uh we could lose interest in our football program pretty fast. I don't I don't know what to say to that, but I I don't think that should be a deterrent from the kids that do have an interest. I don't I think that they'd have to pick one over the other. I think they should >> Maybe that's
036what we say. >> Okay. I'm okay with them picking one over the other. >> That's what we said. We we are offering this. We prefer if you would if you don't choose to then go the other way and we may end up playing sixman this year. We may end up having to scramble for a co-op. I won't know that till I get all the kids together on Wednesday. Um I think what I'm hearing, tell me if I'm correct. What I'm hearing is we want to make this available one way or another. >> That would be my preference. >> Yeah, that would be my preference. >> But just know it comes at a cost. >> It does. But but but so does but so does um offering it and requiring them to also play football, basketball,
037because I I I can think of a specific kid that under no circumstances is going to play football but really wants to do cross country. >> Then I think we have to do. And so you're going to so you're going to dis you're going to disincclude a kid that really wants to do this. >> And and all like I said, all four of the kids that >> approached me and their parents, those kids are going to be cross country kids in high school. So I don't want you from them now to learn those. >> Exactly. >> And I mean I that would really suck if football didn't have enough kids to But but at what point how how are you how do you prioritize your sports? You're going to say football is more important and
038so we can't do these other things. >> No, the girl. We got any girls that want to play? >> No, you don't. You say we then our option is six men or co-op. That's that's >> and and that's how cross country started. They co-oped with Pike Valley until they had enough kids to do it on their own. And they and in a >> like you said >> now we get one of the biggest teams in the league >> and but it cycles in five years we might be back asking Pike Valley to partner again. It's just that's the nature of having a small school with not with a limited amount of kids to put in these activities >> and and research shows that when kids are involved in any type of extracurricular there's a strong
039correlation to >> 100% that goes to Brandon was saying is if there are other things we could be offering that aren't even sports related >> if u you know if we do have students that are only wanting to do cross country then we would probably look at expanding the number of competitions to ones that are occur on Thursdays because we wouldn't have to worry about that conflict. We would still want to make enough competitions available for those that want to duel to be able to do both and still compete. Um, but at the same time, and then we would just have to look at what that number is and what your compensation for Shannon might want to be in stipen for that happens like in high school with track. Kids want to do track and
040>> well track and golf. we only have one meet that they conflict and so we really haven't had a big problem with that since we started allowing the duel. >> That was more the coaches had to agree on um when who was going to practice when and how that was going to occur because otherwise the track kid would go, "Oh, we're doing 16400s today. I work on my putty, you know." So >> they're not stupid. >> Yeah. That's a big >> part of the coach, you know, hey, we're working on the 4x1 relay today, but two of the members are out golfing today, so I can't do that. So, it was more of the coaches had to decide you get him this day or I'll give him this workout. And so, that that's been and
041we know Shannon's pretty darn generous with his time. So, we would just have to establish here's what it's going to look like once we know the numbers and then put a stipen number on it. I'm good with it. I just wanted to have the conversation. >> I mean, uh, we don't So, I tell you, we don't know what our football numbers are. >> I think we were at 10 >> and this could change that, >> but I I think three of the four were planning on playing football. Um, but again, I don't know how many of those kids around for football even knew that cross country would be an opportunity and may decide to go the other way. Um, and like I said with volleyball, we might pick up 10 girls and still have 25
042and we'd have plenty for >> I'll tell you. I mean, I'm a as a parent, I'd be a little anxious about dual sporting a seventh grader. >> That's their decision. >> I know. >> You know what I mean? I mean, I know that might create conflict at home and got to get into an argument with your kid, but that's >> Well, it's it it's it is the uh are we it is it's more the academic piece. >> Like, are we still making sure they still have to be in student good standing and all? >> Oh, yeah. >> Are we using the same rule apply for dual sporting purposes now? So, yeah, it'll be all the same. Yeah, there's an additional commitment because you're probably going to miss another day of or a part of day
043of school because you're at a meeting. I mean, >> we had this same discussion when we talked about letting high schoolers do it and it's like it's like >> you just got more more >> it's kind of on them. The ownership is on them and if they can't handle it, then that's >> they're going to have to give something up. >> Yeah. >> Like Mr. said, I mean, the kids that are involved in stuff are your >> They're Yeah, they're probably also going to be the kids that are in the play and in NHS and then Scholar Bowl. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, I will uh have a meeting first day of school and see what the interest is and and just I'll have a report for Mr. Cells that he can share with
044you for in your in his Friday notes then on kind of what we're looking at. I would like as a part of this at some point boards will a directive to continue this conversation about what other offerings or what interest the kids have and again I don't know that it all needs a supplemental uh but um some feedback from the students on their interest and what we could be offering for extra other extracurricular opportunities. >> It doesn't always have to be athletic related. I don't I don't you guys know what other schools are doing of our size >> that EA Sports is another one that is growing and I can't say that I'm in favor of that especially when we're looking at screen time issues and >> yeah I just I don't even know what
045it is like but >> it's a gaming league is what it is >> but what what other what what I don't know is what else exists. I just I know that's one thing. >> To be honest with you, I can't say that I know of many schools that do anything more than we do, you know, >> of our size. >> Yeah. Of our size. Yeah. >> How's how's robotics? >> I hear that es and flows. >> It does. It does. >> But that that also kind of is the nature of junior high. >> You know, it's kind of like >> it's like they all go here, then they all go over here. And so >> they're still in that following age. So you might, you know, one year they might have 20 or 30 that
046want to do robotics and the next year there's hardly any because they all decided to go do this other thing together. So >> you kind of have a herd mentality at that age. >> Yeah. >> Well, I I think ultimately though with this it's providing an opportunity that the kids have showed some interest in. Not not that we'd be uh real subjective or suggestive, but I would like to see those that have committed to football continue that and try to do both, but but not hold them to the fire on it, I guess. I know. >> Yes. Thank you very much. I'll keep you posted. >> I guess let us know if we need to do something for Shannon to make make up his time. I guess part of that will tell >> after as
047soon as I know a number on Wednesday then I'll meet with Shannon again. I've already met with him so he's aware that we're discussing this and is willing to >> so what I'm putting is there is a consensus to offer the program with enough interest >> I suppose that would be so right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, we will move on to the mowing contract. You have a copy of that also on your drive. >> Yeah. Um, lawn care. >> They came in basically offering the same compensation changes to any of their >> work. So, is it actually the same they did the last time three years ago? So it's actually from six years ago would have been the last time we adjusted their compensation. >> That was the first board meeting I came to.
048Brian was sitting right. >> So >> um I I don't have any trouble with those service that they do or quality or whatever. The only my only question when I looked at it is that is this something we should be bidding out because that's a pretty big amount. I I didn't know how that worked. It's you know >> we have in the past And I'm not >> Yeah, we have in the past. The last time we did not have a lot of the actually last few times we haven't had a lot of interest. >> We did get other bids though. >> We did one time and then I think they pulled. >> They came in with a giant low bid and then never showed. >> Yeah. Then they first time we did this >> and
049that's one of the reasons why we went ahead and gave went ahead. They said they do it for the same price. We're not really going to get anybody else in here. >> Yeah. Well, I'm not saying there's anybody else that'll bid on it. I just didn't know if we were required. >> Yeah, that's more my concern. >> It's not that I'm asking to do it. It's I'm saying do we need to do it? >> My understanding is the annual compensation is under the bid law. This is just a three thing. I can find out for sure if you want me to. But I don't think I don't think that just don't want us to be in any kind of >> trouble for not bidding the job that we're supposed to be bidding. Otherwise, I'm fine
050with them doing it. They do a good job. do >> I think we bid them three years ago. >> Nope. Nope. Because they said we will do it for the same price if you just renew our contract and that's what we did. That's I'm wondering if if we looked into that to make sure. >> Yeah, it really has. >> That's what I That was the first board meeting I came. It was a December board meeting and he was sitting right there and that's what that's why he was here. It's been six years ago. We have not had one person in six years ask about our low three years ago because I was thinking they did three years. >> I'm the part >> I know. I remember the three of them for approval. >> We took
051the low and the low one is the one that they never called Brian. >> They hired him. >> Yeah. >> I think September 15th is when it starts which is after September meeting. Great. Yeah, >> I guess what I I guess what I'm hearing is we probably have >> consensus to approve this meaning not needing to do a bid. >> You're saying because it's under the is it 20,000 >> 20,000 is >> because it's under an annual payment of 20,000. >> That's my assumption. But I will verify all that with KS >> because that's you're dividing that by three. So you're probably okay. >> Yeah. And it's I think the date on it September 18th question mark >> September 15th or something. It's it's after our board meeting in September. So >> I'm sorry if
052I missed it. What was the previous amount? >> It's the same same. Okay. I thought it was because there was little increase too. >> No, there No, they said they do it with no increase. And that's what we did three years ago also. No increase from the six years ago. Why not? Well, I guess that's kind of table up until next meeting, but only to make sure that we're okay to approve it. >> Uh, facilities. Yeah, first just to follow up on um the parsonage. Um I spoke with Deb Warren um last week and she was gonna try to get in to get a key to look at it and run some comps and stuff for us. So as soon as I have more information on that, I will share that with you guys. But
053um I called and talked with um Angie Salommer or KSB about all of that, I guess, so to speak. And there's nothing that there's no concerns or issues with us wanting to get rid of the property. Um it wasn't an instructional facility at any point in time. So there's there's nothing there. Now when she we I asked her also about you know there's a lot of districts doing this. So what do we need to do as far as if we were to look at purchasing um >> something for staff Um there's there's a state statute that is titled teach ridges which consists of real or personal property for both for teachers. Um anyway, she was going to talk with some other council within their office uh to find out that there's a possibility that in
054order to purchase it knowing that it's going to be used as a a offering to potential staff or housing that there might need to be a resolution that need to be passed before you can make a purchase on a new. So >> trade in a parsonage for a teacher. [Laughter] Um but you know as far as >> the sale of it obviously that just go back into capital outlay whatever that might be. Um and then if the board to explore new uh residency for rent same thing go into capital just like we've been doing all that. Um, I think, um, like I said, I'll get back to you when when I get some numbers kind of what market value might be on that. Um, I I it'd be great to get rid of as soon
055as possible, so I carry over the winter, but at the same time, I also want to keep the church in mind, the price point we send that so that they have good neighbors as well. So, but Um, again, there's no nothing that says we we can't get rid of at any given time. Um, the purchase for another one, I want you to get more information. So, any questions on that? There's where one more thing I guess when they talk about the teaches there's some districts that will do it for administration which is a little bit different and you can just write that in the contract. So when it's for a teacher potentially that's why it falls under this statute of teaches that's that little difference there. So, um our just another update too on our
056access controls are all done in our buildings. Um phone lines and phones are all in. Um they're they should be finishing up the old high school and the district office with phones today and tomorrow and the teachers will get trained on that a little bit tomorrow in their morning meeting with the administration on the phones. But that's all um I was a little bit holding our breath to make sure that was get done >> photo finish. Um they they had one the doors that go to the stairs that were replaced on the elementary up top. Those doors didn't get replaced because of the stairs and all that at this time. They didn't they weren't going to put the access controls on that because the doors don't aren't flush when they close and everything else. And
057so that one's going to remain key. I've got some quotes out to get that door replaced and then the access controls go. But all the other doors are done on that. So, um that big and I I told her this the other day with almost bleeding on my knees, but big thank you to um Mrs. Cox for all she's done to kind of help. Um she's been working her tail off this summer and it's that it's going to be very beneficial. I know the staff are excited, I think, in a lot of ways to have that that badge. Um it also gave us new cameras. And when you when people buzz get buzz in um instead of that horrible sounding they would come through there. They've got them on iPads and so you can communicate
058back and forth and let them in through the iPad. So both principles and the secretaries have those um and the cameras on them are awesome. It's 180 degrees. Um so much better for them as they allow people in. Um I I guess that's it on that front. Um I put a lot of documents in there. A couple of them were um I guess stuff or our action items, but some of it was just some good information from WS construction. So you can look at it's lost to see some of that state statutes and different things that line. I guess we can we can talk about that a little bit more when we get into our actions. But is there any other questions you guys have on any of the other facilities or >> on the
059on the maintenance report? Did it looks like got a lot of sewer projects done? Did you get everything completed they attended or after reading that kind of looks like it but >> yeah um I and by the way you know we replaced a lot of carpet at Virginia Senior High rotation um and if you haven't had a chance yet I' encourage you to try to get into the band room. Um Miss Elro is almost talks about it she almost brings her to tears but band room got a huge face lift. Um, new carpet, cabinets got painted. >> Well, Sheila did a lot of things without to surprise Barb and redid her office. Barb is just accessed. Yes. It looks cool. >> Yeah. >> She say Yeah, she's very proud of of that. Um, so I
060I think Sam say correct me if I'm wrong. Now that we finished this rotation of the carpet replacement, we shouldn't have any more asbestous tile underneath. They should >> the the only places left that have not been recarpeted are Sheila Tucker's classroom at the end of the hallway and some of the little office areas like uh at the ends of the hallways there, the MTSS rooms and a couple offices, but other than that, no major deal with all that. >> The the quick fix of kind of trying to adjust the fax room to to have some kitchen but also have classroom spaces. Um they're going to fill some gaps in the floor and repaint that last week. I haven't been in there since then, but it transformed really well. So that between uh Miss Harvey
061using it for some of her health classes and um Mrs. Underwood, we'll have some classes in there. We kind of repurposed that to have some kitchen use, but also classroom space. >> We just painted over the tile where we pulled up some of the cabinets. There was no tile there, so we got some other tile. painted it. It It was a good transformation, too. I I wouldn't put anything up against the band one. The band room looks fantastic. But, u they did a good job on that, too. So, we had um after this last rain, good news that we had some some roof leakage at the elementary. And when we called a company out to look, the metal roof was on top of the flat roof, but it was blowing in on the sides. There
062was little holes that it was blowing in the sides and at that point finding places to go. And so that got all sealed up a week and a half ago, I believe. And so report of dry classrooms, which was kind of hold my breath a little bit, >> but we got tested pretty good. Absolutely. >> I think moving forward we probably just need to seal that in. >> Yep. >> I think that's what they're planning to do. We uh Allan, we came up we found a product that we actually got from Home Depot and uh Poly Styrene. I mean, it's a really weird name, but it's exactly what the company told me. This is what we do. You could do it a whole lot cheaper. Just nice of that company because >> yeah, they're planning
063on just going up there and slapping it on every year to make sure it >> we update. We got a new uh HVAC system at the egg shop, too, because that went out. They finished that last Friday, I think, was the last day they were in there. But Steve was a little bit >> they had a couple of crews and they're going fulltime. He came and and talked with me about that that with the new refrigerant, he was trying to get some some clarification for manufacturing else being in the act shop, the torches and everything else in there. And so he got all the the feedback he needed to know that he was okay moving forward with that. So he he did his due diligence with that before he got started. So, so yeah, that
064there was a lot that they got done, but the stairs are done and painted. That was still an elementary school. So, all hands were on deck and everybody did a good job. So, Just want to address all the other stuff once we have action items. >> All right, we will move on to our only action item for today. >> There's a very specific I've seen that I read it >> in bluepar. >> Anybody have any >> questions or about what we're what we're doing here today? >> Shooting it to the public roughly. I, Bobby Fogo, move that resolution 2026-008 be adopted, which reads as follows. A resolution authorizing and providing for the calling of bond elections in unifying school district number 107, Joel County, Kansas, Rock Hills, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified
065electors of the district the question of issuing general obligation bonds of the district. Author authorizing application to the state board of education for the authority to call the bond election and for capital improvement state aid and providing for of the giving of notice of the bond election. Is there a second? I second the motion. It's been moved and second. All those in favor? Those opposed. We are five to one. I Mark Grout, president of the United States of America. >> Try that again. >> I'm Mark Grout, president of the USD 107 Board of Education. Declare resolution duly adopted. on that. There's a lot of um documents in there on 7A. Um Queens Construction kind of gave a I think I titled it suggested reply. Um we can look at if anybody asks about it until
066SPC gets back. They're putting together should be getting it today. press release that we can put out to the newspaper. Everything else uh that you can look at that I and if you don't want to try to memorize it and give a >> I think that's good. >> Yeah. Well, that's what everybody was kind of asking about last meeting is what you know kind of what statement should we say and then there's also information in in there on do the dos and don'ts and and I would encourage you all to take a few minutes to read through those. Um there's a there's a uh and a lot of this will become probably more clear for all of us once the campaign committee gets going on their things, but there I noticed kind of repeated in
067there a lot the board's role is education, not advocation, right? Um, and that that is whether you are in support of it as a board member or not in support of it as a board member, your job is to educate the public in whatever that is what this project is, not not to not to go out and advocate for it or against it. So that's something I mean that's kind of a change in thinking I guess maybe for all of us but um that's that's our role is to people ask you a question you your job is to inform them of what you know about it not not to put a your personal bias on whether you support it or don't support it. So just that's just kind of some guidelines there and there's there's
068some good information in there um on on all of those things. So there's there's some stuff in there too that talk about devices and all that kind of stuff too. And well, I'm fairly certain I'll just go ahead and make sure to to to remind you sure most of you don't communicate very often with your school emails. Um but again, if it's educational wise, it can come out, but but for the most part, it's encouraged not even to use your district email address. Um the district doesn't provide any phones to to staff members other than we do for transportation and maintenance. So you know you can't do any communication through district devices or district medium mediums as well. So >> is Piper Sandler or anybody given a total cost of the bond? >> I know
069it's 10.6 six. But what >> interest what's the total cost? >> I've never seen that. I know that will I I've read in there somewhere that's one of the things that will I mean they'll provide that when they start the campaign is they'll have all of those details like normal loan >> seems so >> whatever they actually use >> but that's that's something that >> the public think >> it also varies you don't take the bond you get authorization to do my understanding once if the voters approve it. But then you don't take it till you start getting the money. So we >> till you start getting bills, >> right? Pay interest on the full 10.6 >> until you the full term. >> You only take the bond out as you need the money to
070pay for things. So depending on how you stage the project, >> but there are >> Yeah. No, you're rough number out there. >> Yeah. No, it's really good question >> because that will be asked. Yeah. No, no, >> I think those kind of questions that you know if our role is to educate uh at some point that Q&A uh of what the specifics are, we we we should be educating on you know a Q&A sheet that you know available to us or however that looks like at some point. >> That's a good one to put on it. Highlights. >> Yeah. on the guess I didn't put this on there. I will put this one on there. the full bond packet um I think is kind of what you're asking for and it's on your average
071interest rate is 5.5 but I'm just going to add those to the because I thought I put in there I must not have my one is the election documents full it's 20 pages but it looks like down there on A8 might be kind of what you're asking. It's not election documents. Might need to refresh. I just put the skinny pieces of that and forgot that one. I thought I'd seen somewhere. all the way at the bottom. >> I just renamed it so it's all with 7A, but it's just election documents. It's all in capital letters. Excuse me. Might need to refresh. >> I just did refresh and I'm still not seeing it. >> What is it called? What's the name of it? >> Election documents under 7A. So that should put it all the way
072at the bottom, I believe. >> Where's my seven bomb election? >> There should be There's a bunch of >> There should be several days. >> Oh, >> yeah. Keep going. >> Okay. Yeah, there it is. I got you. Okay. >> See, I thought I saw it somewhere, but my apologies. >> Election documents. That's the >> Yes. It's 7A election documents and you got to go down to page about eight is where it starts >> where it has projected summary of project costs projected summary of bond issue rep repayments >> should be a circle with an arrow up on your URL >> you're wanting to refresh. >> You want me to just email you the link? That be easier. My iPad's URL. I'm on yours, Jeff. You know, since I forgot my iPad, when I try
073to open the board's roll, it just sits here like it's loading across the top to not come up with anything. I was able to look at it last night. >> It was on there before, >> but I don't know if >> I went in or out a couple times. >> I'm good. I'm just telling you what I'm seeing when I'm trying to pull. >> It opens on mine, Kenny. >> I know, but it's just showing here. So, just type in. >> So, the payment will be sent you down. I I ran through most everything last night before I forgot my iPad today. So, this is a big deal. >> To answer your question, Justin, yes, I believe. >> So, the 119. >> No, I can't speak. That's the total >> that's including. No, you just
074>> that doesn't have to >> that's included the district funds if you're looking down on the left side >> source of the funds and the use of the funds on the other side. >> Yeah, but it doesn't have >> total cost of the bond calculated out. Uh I think that's second,000 times >> total interest cost of maturity 11.1 >> that's the total interest cost after 25 years. >> So subtracting the million we're putting in. So the million plus the 11.7 or whatever you said >> 21.7 you got a couple of things. Yeah, that's what you're looking at. Yeah, >> that'd be my guess. The way I'd read it. >> Well, if you take the total amount of payments times 25 years is 21.8. >> Yeah, that's what >> Yeah. Well, that would be that's that's
075it. It's got the total insurance or total interest cost there of 11.1. So, that that'd be about right. So we get that interest rate down. >> So yeah, just just interest alone is goes down. >> Goes down. >> Yeah. That long a term. That's what happens. >> I That's why banks are in business. I was going to say the only way to keep that >> 872 is the yearly endorm >> shorter term that makes a hell of a lot bigger payment every year. Yes, it does. >> Is there anything in there that says if we pay early then interest is less or is there something? >> There's no pay. >> Okay. Then you want to pay on the front end if you can. >> Yeah. Don't wait till the back save near the >> If
076I remember right, the last bond that was on we did pay it off early if I remember correctly. >> I think so. >> I think we It wasn't much 6 months or a year, but that was a roof ball in the Man district. That was the last. >> And did that get paid off? Did that have anything to do with consolidation that got that paid early because >> No, it had >> I know we didn't have it. I mean it was it was done by consolidation >> accounts or like got the cash off your books math. You know you just if you just round up those payments or pick a number if you can budget >> more to start with how much it saved you on the back end. Be surprised how many millions it
077might save. You just >> give a little give all you can give the first five, six, seven years of it. But get that principle down as fast as you can. >> Well, what's the action? So that press release will come. What what's the what's of all this? Yeah. Yeah. What's that? >> Right now, as soon as we get this, it's got to get to them as soon as we can and then they start >> and then we have Does it have to go in the paper tomorrow? We have I have to go back and look at the email and I J. >> Yeah, >> I'm sure that'll have to be there by 1:00 tomorrow. >> Yeah. 10 county record August 14th. the key. >> Yeah, I'll follow up with SVP down here because they're supposed
078to have that release press release. So, I don't think so. >> Ready for executive session? We'll wait till Janet gets back start making motions. phone ring >> phone lines for the school. Oh, >> are they done over here? I was going to ask you. >> So, if somebody calls here, you can't transfer them yet or can you >> by the end of today? >> Today goes live and we're going to all go try to get trained on how to run these spaceship phones. Now, >> we we were able to call out last week, but the switch over today is where phones coming in are coming to the new phones, not the old. >> Sure. There will be a little learning curve, but I think it'll be a good a good thing in the end. >>
079The nice thing about that is senative voicemail. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> That person called back. >> No way. >> Okay. So we are ready for executive session for non-elective personnel be >> I can I can do the >> do the motion >> the motion how much time and who can do all it >> uh just color and I >> I just have the supplemental thing that you can do without me >> hello maybe 10 >> Mr. President, I move we go into executive session with Mr. Cells and Miss Keller present to discuss employee contracts pursuant to the non-elected personnel exception under coma and the open meeting will resume in the boardroom at 9:20 a.m. >> Second. >> All those in favor 6. plug in too. It says batteries button. We're back in open session.
080>> All right, Jan, you ready? Just a second. I got them all typed out. So, >> we got one that wasn't there, but it'll be one more. >> Go ahead. >> Um motion to accept the resignation of Kristen Thronson as elementary MTSS PAR effective July 30th, 2025. >> Second. >> All those in favor? 6. >> Motion to approve hiring Stephanie Pexton as elementary MTSS PAR. >> Second. >> All those in favor? 6. >> Motion to approve hiring Britney Blaine as elementary MTSS PAR. >> Second. >> All those in favor? 6. >> Motion to approve hiring the following as substitutes. Keith Shank, Kelly Kimmer, Angelica Hernandez. >> Second. >> All those in favor? 6. Here's motion to approve hiring Shannon Meyer with supplemental for high school cross country and high school track. >> All in favor
0816. So >> thanks. >> All right. Sorry. I don't know why I thought we had done that. I don't think we did. I apologize that I didn't have it on. No, that's fine. >> I don't think I have anything else. >> If you guys can make it uh this evening, great. If not, totally understand. >> Six o'clock here. >> What's Yeah, we say what's the best time for >> six o'clock be. Um I'm going to I won't have you guys come down, but I'll just >> Are we meeting anybody new at noon today? I mean, do you have any new teachers and stuff? Normally, we do a meet and greet. >> We do have so if you can't make it for lunch, I mean, right after lunch with our convocation and then insurance will take
082over after that. So, I know you got to be out of town and let you guys have >> Yeah, I will. >> So, whenever whenever you guys can be there, that's that's fine. But we we'll start at 12 o'clock at the auditorium today with back to school convocation. And then tonight, >> we're not doing it in the comments. do it in the auditorium at the little theater. Better more comfortable seating >> at six o'clock in the little theater. >> No, six o' state of the state. >> state of the district that immensely >> United States. >> I'll start I'll start working on that. Do we need to get somebody to be able to drive your entrance limo? >> I think we can come up with project in that short amount of time. >> Hail to
083the kids. >> All of those would be appropriate. Yeah. >> Should I rose petals? That might be a little more, >> you know, >> Bobby. We do have a whole bunch of those. >> Actually, we do. We're good to go. to the red. >> And I will tell you that that I'll I'll kind of ask for feedback from the the whole all the district employees after um tonight. My hope is that we can get feedback and strengthen this. I mean, I I don't think there's a better way for us to start a year than to bring eight communities into one together to kind of kick off. I mean, that's kind of my vision for this. Hope it goes well. It looks really good in I hope it >> I'm curious what you have pl which
084I think is awesome by the way that you're incorporating the site council meetings into tonight. Is that also a plea for those that might be interested in psych? >> We are going to encourage everyone that's there that this is a great way to be involved. >> I think that is awesome. That's that's cool. >> So >> we don't make that plea enough and I'm glad to see it starting because I think there we just don't ever ask in a lot of ways. And this I mean albeit it's not steaks but we're providing meals. So I'll go start cooking hot dogs here a little bit. >> Could be ground up steaks. >> Yeah. >> With a few other things. >> Turkey, chicken, whatever you want to put in that hot dog. But no. So yeah, if
085you guys can make it through one of those, we've got five new teach Well, technically two new teachers. The other one >> two returns and one partial return. Yeah, guess that's it. Nothing else. >> So, six o'clock gym. >> Okay, >> I'll make you come down and give a speech. >> Nope. >> You just can't go play basketball. We're not supposed to be on that floor till Wednesday. >> So, don't bring my children. Is that what you're saying? >> I could do that in the comments. Just not the floor. >> Good. You are now in charge of security. that. >> You better drink a lot of Mountain De. >> Yeah. >> I can't deny them anything. So, we're in trouble. >> I can't keep them up that fast. >> We're in trouble. >> Okay. >>
086Yeah. >> And Justin, I can't deny yours either. So, >> Oh, I I got a question for Miss Keller. Are you ready for the fifth grade class? your hands are gonna be >> this. >> I already got a vote in if you want to know. >> And I we sat down yesterday. >> These are going to look good. the