001Okay, it's say it's one o'clock. Call the meeting to order. Stop in front of me. Sorry. Okay. Um, damn. Okay. As far as the uh agenda, I did have a request to add uh one item that I don't believe is on there yet for discussion. So 6J we will add uh 202526 school calendar discussion six. Yeah 6. What am I looking at then? You can take that one. Is yours different? That was the April meeting. Still in your thing? That's what was in there. That's That's the only one I had was the April meeting. You go. Okay. Would work better if I have the right months. I know I've got the right page, too, but I didn't have the May agenda. I have no idea. Okay. Okay. Try that again. That would be F6F 202526
002school calendar. All right. Anybody else have anything? Sorry. Month behind. I'm sure it's my fault. So, it was in there. Midnight, you know, the night before the meeting. I didn't even bother looking at the month before I got there. Okay. Anything else? If not, I would entertain a motion to I move approve the agenda. Second. All those in favor? We are six uh zero. Wayne is on the Zoom. Kenny is not on there yet. Anybody else have the wrong one? Nobody else got where that one came from. I was trying to do the alphabet. I really wasn't I really wasn't trying to set Mark up. That's all right. Okay. Um consent agenda. Anyone have anything on that? Any questions or anything? On the transportation thing. It says there's a spreadsheet of uh projects for working
003on over the summer. Is that something we have access to? I just don't know where it's at. He probably has shared it about you guys. I can I can find it to help us all coordinate. No, I just I'm just curious what summer works. I didn't add it. So, maintenance or transportation or maintenance. I'm sorry. Well, it's listed on transportation, but I'm assuming it has both transportation things and it didn't say which one. Thank you. Okay. Accept the agenda. Second. All those in favor 6. We told the next group I believe what did you tell them about 115 and I told the other one about 120. So we are ahead of schedule. So we fine um any we we'll just kind of jump ahead then. The next two items on there are presentations from students
004and their sponsors. Um is there any board member reports? Anybody want anyone to share? Okay. If not then do you want to start the discussion? Yeah I think a summary. So, what I guess what we'll do is we'll we'll let those of you that have been participating in the CM interviews kind of give us an overview. Um, if we have our other groups come in, we may let them so they don't have to stick around to Oh, I think maybe never mind. They're here. Okay. Second graders. All right. [Music] So, we will be back on 4A. Amy, would you guys make sure that everybody is signed in legibly? So, I don't know if you guys want to write all the kids' names down. We have to do that, right? Yeah. Can they do that like
005on their way out? Why don't you do Yeah, because that's I just remind you before I forgot. Don't make them all stand there and sign in. Be really careful of Jeff. That'll leave black marks on the floor if you go against the wheels. Come all the way to the front to the table here. Not sure where you have a longer surround us in here. We're fine. On in back there. We'll try not to be too scary. Just line up right there. Go to the line up to the refrigerator over there. Keep going. There you go. And come forward. Then they can get behind you, too. Move forward in and squeeze in. You'll make room. And they can just light up behind too. a lot. I know. I did. I got one last year, too. Do
006you know people? I do not, but I'm probably the wrong person to ask that question about a lot of people in our country. Well, elementary school or I don't I don't have I used to know all of them, but have any connection anymore? I don't either. You know, I a lot to memor Okay. things we learned in class with our lemonade stand throughout the lemonade standards in reading class social studies and arts. We learned new. We got to practice counting money and get changed just by practicing. We also learned about things that are in our standards. is trying to manage creative thinking while learning. $44. A buddy bank is for any student who needs a buddy during recess to play with. We are also going to buy two drinks for their elementary. Then we can
007use them for any eliminates. We do love it. Oh, great. Instead of stopping and writing everybody's names, if you would email me a list of all the names that were here, that would be amazing. Thank you. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. Otherwise, that might take a while. [Music] Oh, there's a lot of dads. Yeah, there's we got a few dads here. Yeah. Well, you know, thank you for letting us break. That was That was awesome. Great. Fishing. It was really good. It was cold out that morning. It was Not exactly lemonade. It was a hot chocolate stand type of day. But you know the lemonade was good. You cannot donate. Thank they. They did great financially. They did amazing. Friday. So sale day. So it was a constant line of pickups and cattle
008tracks all morning in front of the elementary school. Yeah. That was very good. Okay. Well, the our other group isn't here yet. They'll probably walk in as soon as we start. But you want to try on the discussion again? CM. Y well we we as you guys know we we had um five companies that submitted their bids for proposal uh through your guys's reviewing of all that. We took our top three and interviewed those. We did two of them on Friday last Friday and one of them today. the one today. Um they asked if they could move it because some of the people that would be part of that job if they're the ones selected were on vacation and so they wanted to make sure they were present for that meeting and so we had
009that one today. Um I'll let Brennan and Bobby kind of get in the weeds a little bit more with those. I I would tell you that wishful thinking. We were kind of hoping that we'd have a recommendation ready for the board um for today's meeting, but we feel it's best that we make a few more reference calls um and contact some other people before we make that final decision. Um but I I would say that I feel like all three of them would would be sufficient partners for us um regardless of which direction we go. I'd like Greg to just share a little bit about and his team about what they kind of they've prepared us very well with like a rubric of what we're kind of analyzing. You know, if they go you just
010want to kind of summarize that and just your perspective being here. I just want to share I appreciate Greg being here. He's he's worked with some of these contractors and has some unique insight that we wouldn't have um you know on all aspects and projects has worked he's worked with some previously. So if you can share kind of that process for sure. Yeah. So you have three great contractors to talk to. You can't really make the decision. And the we set up send out this rubric to them ahead of time and it's a bunch of questions basically some of it based on we want we try to make it specific to your project but also bring up questions that we've seen in the past from other construction managers of how they maybe do or don't
011do or do not do things that that kind of protect you from certain aspects of the project. Whether that's how they handle allowances to how they in subcontractors and they all it seem just different ones who think differently. So we try to make it an so and answer the questions forly and then after we do the interviews and we score them and then they all send their financial information to the state of Kansas and then Frank Burnham at the sends Kansas Department of Administration send it sends it to Jeff and we open that up and talk about that after we export all the contractors. So the fee part is separate from the interview part. The interview part is not it cannot account for more than 50% of the decision. So nobody can come in here
012and just wow anybody with the presentation and get a job. But I would say they all did a great job on the interviews and then we had this to the cost and there was a little bit of separation there that we maybe came into play that uh maybe influenced the decision a little bit but that was good process and I think it served you guys well. Anything else you want me to add on that? Uh the questions were very good just in terms of so one of them was you know the person we presented what option two and three going north going west and just get their interpretation of you know what that looks like on that question specifically I think I'm going to say highly entertaining and that's not how I feel but uh
013basically we had one con one contractor say this option is way better than this option and the other one said this one's option better than this option totally opposite and all they gave good for both. And then and then you had one that said, "Yeah, they would they would both be about $200,000 if so." So So if you're wondering if we're on the right track, we are definitely on the right track. All right. I don't know where we're going yet, but and then uh the context about um bidding accuracy, estimation, um you know, the the feed component, things that I I didn't know to ask and Greg brought that to the the context. Um quality control, warranty, location of where we are and access to subcontractors, you know, what's that access look like? How do
014you manage those? Some have some uh really good uh feedback on different ways they've done that. We focusing on you know as a small district where we're located, you know, looking we had lots of discussions about looking for those that fit that niche and we explained that's what we're looking for. We're looking for creative solutions. Uh we're looking you know for somebody that can uh you know give us form over function form, excuse me. And so um uh I don't know focus on management a little bit which is thought about. Yeah. And the two two the three brought their construction man project superintendent and they all brought some project managers that we've been working with on the project. So you got a chance to see you got a chance to see who they'd be having
015on site which I think really valuable and I will tell you just you know quick interpretation is they all bring different strengths. Yeah. To the table. Yeah. And it's and I and based on how we've scored to this point, nothing's jumping out like, oh my gosh, this is which would make our jobs easier, but also in the same context, I you know, we we see a benefit we see benefits from all of them. They all bring some things to table that maybe the other one don't or just are stronger in certain areas. Um uh we did the just so you know that the one of the questions was you know we've talked about how bidding pieces out like maybe you want to do this and so you do the Hback separate or another component and
016I will tell you the consistent answer is you run a lot of risk in doing that and highly recommend not doing that from all three because it gets really complicated on chain of responsibility uh especially as you integrate systems everything we're trying to to really separate that. I think there's components of a project that you got HBAC is probably not a great one because as many tal so many other like redoing electrical and the electrical side and other things that they'd be managing that they wouldn't have any control over that it would cause problems no longer AC part. Now there's if we could have oneoff pieces like Not sure what a great example of this project yet, but yeah, that's a good example piece of them. So, we can talk about that kind of stuff
017more as we go that data part is probably one more complicated we focus pretty heavily on our questions I feel like discussions are on cost estimation we're very clear that we we want we that's a priority for us where we're at and you know creative ways of doing that building cost estimating half million dollars left over at the end to spend on another project because that's not what you're trying to And I' I'd also echo that that Greg and his team has done a fantastic job to prepare us for those interviews. Um he's got a lot of knowledge and and he's got some information from all those these companies too, experiences and and some of them more than pretty good feel for that. Then we'll we'll I'll do some more uh reaching out to some
018other districts that have um school districts specifically probably more our size to get some feedback on some of the the work they've done and um we're looking for reference which I so we walked out we had two Friday morning and one just 11 o' today u I want to think a little bit more about consider recommendation but references we feel is an important piece that we probably not had time to follow up with them at this point but especially based on what after the interviews. So, uh, that would kind of be our request is maybe a week from now, even if it's a Zoom meeting, if we want to do recommendation, um, but after we check some references, I think that's f I'm pretty sure we're going to have to have some special meetings here
019coming up. So, I think we can work that in. And I think if you watch a couple of things from the interviews and maybe have follow that time I don't know how much I don't know how you want to schedule this from Carolina in terms of sharing more details on our interpretations. I don't whenever that's necessary we'll have to do that. We've got rating sheets, notes, all that. I don't know if now is the time. I definitely want Greg and his folks in on that as we do that. Okay. But we're all on the same page of our pros and cons of all systems. Correct. It's a thing. I mean, uh, it's something once you select this. I mean, I don't want I don't want to do all this work and go what we just
020went through again and go back and start over. So I we we're all taking this serious, but just know this is not an easy decision. No, by any means. Uh and once it once it they're picked, I mean, you've got a timeline and it needs to be stuck. I mean, we need to stick to the timeline and keep pushing forward. Yeah. Well, a lot of our discussion has been around looking to possibly do an election in November. If that's still our goal, it's feasible, but it's a lofty goal that we're going to have to keep moving pretty quick moving forward. If not, then then um you know, we can look at another date. But if that's ultimately, then we need to and it works best from the design side too. I believe if if November
021gives you that winner to kind of Well, yeah. The difference between November and March election is and you can only do it for Tuesday and March. Now, the legislature changed as of July 1. Yeah. Yeah. So, and so you can do a November election, do March election, you can do an August election, primary elector, which is not a very good time because you can come off and what the November election gives you, you pass, we start our drawings and we finish them up in the spring and the contractor, construction manager starts in the spring, they get two summers to finish it by next school year. We have a March election. We're finishing our best time to build basically and spring into April to end of August or or September. So they're starting the next fall.
022It's difficult often times to get all the work done by the start of next school year. So March or November elections give you a lot of advantages in that regard. But you also you have to have all we have to have figured we have to the final spet determined and the cost determined no later. So yeah tomorrow. Yeah. That's well that that was I was just going to ask that question that because we've in the last few months I mean we we've kind of been progressing but we at the same time have kind of been well what if we put it here? What if we put it over here? What if it's what if it's adjoined over here? At at what point do we have to kind of commit to this is what the scope
023of the project is and what it looks like and where it goes and is that is that an August thing or is that sooner than that? one has to do with what you have to get to department of education. The the reason the reason the reason I ask is is well it's that Bobby the reason I ask is because depending on what the project is and where it is and what what it's going to be that also kind of has to do with who you want to work with on it I would think you know so it does there's kind of two things that we need to decide I just which one and and is first and when do they both have to be decided by the points I'll use as an example we had
024if you knew the scope that we're going to do them and we knew what we're going to include as far as classroom based are concerned and we had it shown between the school building and the track football fields. Well, afterwards after looking at it, it was pretty tight. So, working with construction manager, we moved it out to the front building. You don't have to have exactly everything figured out. You have to have the scope figured out. It's going to be CC. It's going to have these class faster. You don't have to have the number of class figured out. You want to set up the B like the B question that gives you some flexibility and say you're going to build you know build classroom spaces but you don't want to say you're going to build
025four classroom spaces to build more classroom. So the location can change as long as we have dollar amount and the scope. Correct. I think we're pretty close on that. Who knows you guys have to get comfortable with with that number and then we need to work to that number to see what we can include in that. And I don't think you guys are that far that no one company did provide some additional cost estimation was far off but but what's interesting about selecting as I mentioned we got three different opinions on right on the two scenarios we got whether and that's what we asked comparing I think but not only that once you dig deeper they're like well you could maybe do this transition to the theater differently that might cost you less And so
026you start, you could even take those and start breaking some of those pieces down based on, you know, some of their input. You're like, I guess, and that's what I see the value of getting this right. Somebody that's got that creativity. That's so Look, that's what I'm looking for is who can help us. Okay, we can get this cost per square footage down if you're willing to. We push for somebody with a little bit of that said, you know, this is what this is what we want, but we want to be able to do it in and get built cost effective. cost effectively. And okay, I'd encourage you to look at the materials that they've dropped off. Um, and Hutton had left a flash drive of the presentation. Okay. I just emailed it to you
027and Jeff will upload that. I do I would I do think it's valuable for board members take a few minutes, however that's uploaded or what that looks like. It's in the books. I don't have so you're not going in blind and we have this discussion because you're and look the things that we've been looking for is what are the previous projects you know are they how they compare what's it look like um you know how uh that's why hence the references piece but um you're getting a feel for is that similar to what we're doing obviously the one-on-one really shares some you could tell different company cultures very very apparently very again not all just very both have all positives both positives just different what gets you best I mean what hunting's a big company
028you know they're they're they do a lot of systems and a lot of uh WS is is not uh you know they're they've got a they're not nearly that size but they've done some probably more similar projects of our size you know so they definitely worked a lot in this Patton's got a bunch of projects that they've done instead of the Smith Center hospital, Osborne Hospital. Um, since they're located, they have an office in a smaller office that's line up that is a lot closer, you know, and a warranty truck that's going to get Dixon does more smaller districts, but has probably more of the um full encompassing. I don't I don't know if they I don't know how you compare them in size to in terms of their They're in the middle. Right in
029the middle. Yeah, I say middle middle road. not by small greens but um bring a lot of experience and not they're not doing 40 projects in Kansas they're doing five 10 three four yeah so again those are all factors as we just talked about and discussed so again I I think by you all looking at this we I don't I don't want to come to the board meeting and say Bobby and I recommend this uh we would like to have a discussion with am I wrong no please don't put this just on Bobby and I that we're in the room and We're happy to provide context, but I really want the board's ownership in this. Okay. And that's the word that Bobby just said is is exactly right. They're all they're all great companies. We've
030got to determine what's the best fit for us. Um, and there's obviously there there's multiple factors that go into that, but I think as we we'll put our thoughts together down and I'll encompass those and be able to share those with you guys. Um, you maybe the end of the end of the week or something on Friday notes, but we'll we'll gather our stuff, get our thoughts down, and then also ask for a little bit look into that a little bit more as well. But, uh, that's fine. Take take your time. I mean, it's take your time, but hurry up. Yeah. Well, and and that's that that's kind of what I explained to them, too, is um we we want to be thorough and do this, but at the same time, part of my job
031is to keep the foot on the throttle. Right. But the flip side of that is not to, you know, make four or rush decisions. I don't want to be back here. No, I I with each company, I've explained our district a little bit. you know, we're consulting districts. Our first bond some of this is the first bond project this district's ever done. You know that we've got this district has the last bond in this community was 30 years ago. I don't the roof of I remember we paid off a bond maybe many moons ago early 2000s it was paid off. So those are all factors for a community that you know we I shared with them um just our our want in the CTE space our need to you know what we're trying to accomplish.
032So that was also to get them to understand that I don't want them going in blind once we pick them to know I didn't realize you guys. I want them to see those challenges and opportunities up front to our base. Yeah. You know what our our tax base tax base is? Yeah. How spread out what this would cost our taxpayer. You know in that context if we were to prove it this amount capital outlay components all those things that hence why our trying to do our diligence would be creative creativeness is is value. So like I said I don't I don't want to come in and say this is who I think it should be. I really want a board discussion on this and and it be total and not just Bobby and I picked
033it based on Greg and Greg's input's valuable. authorities on this. So, I think that's fair. Yeah, we appreciate you making the drive up to those. I mean, I think it's valuable especially at this stage. Thanks for your page. I want to see the process. I think as well Jason I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to ask I mean you we shared a little bit but will will you be continually on this but yeah okay thanks guys you think of any other things we should be asking or reference questions I don't if there's something in that context as we approach this. I was going to send you follow. Yes, that'd be very welcome. You know, I think a lot of it has to do much detail. She wants you to know, but specifically around budgeting
034of it. Yeah. We have budgeting and and budgeting not just they used to work in this area. Yeah, those they might some of those uh I don't know couple of them all worked up here but they've all worked in different rural parts of campus that reference check those areas. Thank you. Thank you. I just messaged Jill also just because I had told her that we had the second grade coming and said we told her, you know, give it a little bit of time, but they're giving me a little extra than what I thought they would. So, are they still coming? I just messaged her. I texted her. I know her phones broke. So, I also Okay. Okay. Thank you all. Thank you. LA is on their way. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll we'll work them in
035when they get here and we'll just keep moving. So, um item B is the rental house discussion. Yeah. I just um you know, I just want to get that kind of the front of your guys' minds a little bit too on kind of determining, you know, it it's it's worked out great. the Griffins has have lived there and I know that they've been uh it's worked out well for them and we just need to start planning for the future if if that if we're going to keep it as a rental house, what what the board like to do with that facility. So obviously I don't need a decision now, but just something to start keeping in mind as they finish up their tenure here. And um I would like to add that in and looking
036at cost of that house versus rent, we need to take a really good look at that because I mean not that our goal is to make a lot of money, but we really need to make enough money to cover all of the costs associated with that and we are paying uh property tax on that now since it is not used as a school facility like a daycare would have been. So they have changed us over to a taxable property. So we have some extra expenses. Okay. What what is that? Like would you give us a breakdown of what that cost would be on a per month? Like what's the equivalency? You don't have to answer that now. I will get that because what I have it's been a while since I've done it. And so
037with the increase in utility cost that that has a difference. I mean it's been good that somebody's been in there, they've caught everything that's gone wrong that we've needed to get fixed for leaks, etc., etc., which which is really good. But I will say that um I think it's going to be uh a little costly for even teachers to rent if we actually put a price on it. That That's what I'm asking. Because we pay all the utilities and if we if we if we don't Jill and Terry have been very frugal, their electric bill at the city and their water is hardly anything. The gas they can't control as much. They've shut most of the house off so they don't use most of it. So, but yeah, I'll put some numbers together and send
038that out. Context would help. Yep. So I assume that's a discussion is if no a we got to find out do we do will do will do will do will do will do will we need for next year's staff to stay in it that'll be the first question to ask if we do then oh then we demonstrate which we've already developed the lease right so well the second is do we adjust the lease are those the two questions we prepare is if we keep it that the I would say that the lease needs to be adjusted at least verbiage if they take on utilities the writer takes utilities, whatever. But then the other question is, I guess to to just start thinking about is I think there's value in having the district have a a
039a home or to recruit staff to is a three-story home the right one to go to or No. Well, that wasn't our that wasn't the intent. Right. Right. And and so I mean I I I agree. If you if we were still pursuing the daycare, then you know that's that was the intent. But as far as uh housing for a teacher, I think I I think there's a lot of value in that. I just think we have the wrong house. Correct. Yeah. So if I think that needs to be part of the discussion, too, is if we choose to not keep that house, do we do we look at finding trying to find something else that's smaller, more affordable, makes a lot more sense for maybe maybe one person or a couple or something like
040that. So um because I do I do think there's value in having it. I just think we it's we just don't have the right fit for what we for what we need now. So it it has been great. The grip I mean with the grip that's in there that has has been very helpful. But I definitely would would uh recommend that we don't cover utilities if we continue to rent it out to anybody because I think they have been very frugal. But I think people will be more frugal if they're paying their own utilities than that's a big house. Hence why I need some numbers. Yeah. I'll get those to you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um All right. Health insurance. Yeah, we've got preliminary numbers from Blue Cross that the renewal um information is in the
041drive. We have our health insurance benefits committee meeting um this Friday morning. Um IMA will be here to kind of present what they've had. Um I'm hopeful that with them being able to lean on Blue Cross, maybe we can get that down a little bit more. But um that the number is I guess better than anticipated. Um it's still nine nine and a half%. It's a difference of about $67,000 increase in health insurance, but um a lot less than what's been the last couple years. So And they look at anything under 10 as a flat. Is that And I I don't know. Oh yeah. Only with insurance. Yeah. Yeah. Like but I also don't anticipate that that it will be 10% increase, but it's not really anything. It's not Yeah. Well, but but what I'm
042saying is uh they said it's No, I get I get what I get what you're saying. I just It's possible to have under 10%. It's just amazing how much reality can get shifted in some of this stuff. You know, that's I think any of the rest of us have expenses go up 10% in our budget. It's like that's that's more than something that's not just flat. It's helpful too that that IMA um asked Blue Cross to get us those numbers earlier which is going to be more beneficial as we continue having conversations with negotiations because that that 9 and a half 9.51% or whatever even that that proposal I I guess for lack of better words that worst case scenario it might go down but at least we know that that's the the most that
043insurance will cost us at this point for renewing. Well, and I don't know how closely you looked at it. Our health uh was we were at 73% uh usage and so we were way down on health. Um it's pharmaceuticals. So we were at 130% right around there. So that's the one that's still getting us dental. We were kind of at 99%. So it went up pushes your change. It went up a little bit, but the pharmaceuticals is the one that we cut it for that that is actually hurting us this year. And and most of that is that pharmaceuticals have just went up so much. Doesn't matter who you are or what you're using, they're just they're just outrageous. What did we learn from the the company that was supposed to search the marketplace for
044us? Well, we'll know that Friday. Friday morning we have our meeting with them. Okay. I was just wondering if there was any value in what we were paying them, I guess, is what I was getting at. So yeah, we'll find out tell you on Friday. Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Yeah. And for negotiations, just send that information out so we have something for our next meeting if we're not going to have a board meeting between now and then. Yeah, I know. I figured that's the 21st, right? I think so. Do you want us to are you do you want us to upload the whole renewal to the negotiations word or just what are you for us on us and if it's on the drive but you want me to put it in you guys'
045drive or just send us where the location is. It's in our in our board drive for today and what Friday is on our Yeah, I'll get that to you. Yes. Yeah, just let's see what they we make the decision in the line, right? On renewal typically. Yeah. June June or July if we're ready. Just whenever we're ready. I mean, when it's 26%, you're not ever ready to do that one. This is is a lot more doable. This is a lot more doable than than last year's. Hey. Well, I just I mean I mean typically you budget a 20 most people budget a 20% increase for Blue Cross. We did that 20 years ago in Harrington and 67,000 and hope for the best. Hope for less. Budgeting was 20%. It's like 80 bucks a month per
046employee, something like that. And then you also need to take into consideration the 5% that the employee is going to pay. So they're going to take care theirs is going to be increased a little bit more than what they're currently paying. Now it'll be 5% of the whole premium. $140 a month. Like we figured out what total five bucks more. Yeah. Five or six bucks a month more. Good to know. Yep. All right. We'll move on. Uh item D is math credits. This is to revisit a discussion that we had from a couple months ago. Yeah. I I went and met I believe it was last week. Um I went and met with Mrs. Flynn for a while. I I guess first thing I I I did right off the bat was apologize that we
047it wasn't our intent not to include her in those conversations. Um but we were kind of talking about, you know, the chicken or the egg on that how many credits you require versus, you know, we anyway through the conversation we talked about how we want to keep challenging our kids. We want to make sure we're preparing them when they walk out the doors. What's the best way? and and knowing that there's the contemporary math class that we're going to be able to teach as a concurrent class if students choose to take that is a half credit. So, and and her and I were kind of on the same page when we left the meeting was be my recommendation that we make our our graduation requirement three and a half because you know we our last
048meeting we kind of thought about that being at three but then we're really not encouraging those kids to take something else. This has them say as a senior you college algebra or this contemporary math which is more to some degree a real life math type class but they're both are college level classes that they pay for it but um it's still challenging those kids senior year and it's not allowing those seniors to take a class a remedial class that's taking away from those kids that are needing that extra support. Um, and I I encouraged her to continue uh to to be open with Mr. Myers and I if she has recommendations, but she felt very much more comfortable with that. So, did you two have a conversation about it? Yeah. Um, I guess I I
049kind of saw three and a half being the way that they were going to end up going, whether we changed three or four because your kids are going on the full four-year college pathway are going to take college out. they all take the college algebra and then they're mad they have to take college down because they don't need it. Um the kids that are going about county technical college, community college, they need the contemporary map and then they won't want to do a second one. Um, so the fact that we can offer that contemporary map kind of killed, you know, we were able to do that with the three and a half whether we change it or not because the kids going to either direction that the kids that were now um bringing back into
050that are the kids that are going to the workforce that that didn't want one either one of them. Um, the other concern, not concern, the other uh obstacle in this is um just a scheduling issue. If you take college out for first semester, not stats, what are we going to put you in second semester, right? Because I can't necessarily drop you into a woods or an aronomy or something that you may have needed that that year or that or physics or whatever may be opposite that. Uh the other thing is because of the scheduling and the lensure that you need to teach the contemporary math, Mrs. Collins is the only one that can teach it. Now, I think that we can make that work in a very creative way this year because um when we
051get into our um supplementals discussion, it will be where um somebody's coming out of the classroom for basketball season to coach and Miss Tucker is staying to cover that assignment and Miss Flynn who is not coaching then would teach that just during the basketball season. Cloud County has said they're okay with that if she teaches it from October to March and it's just shows up on the semester 2 transcript. Um but then what do those contemporary math kids do from August to October and from March to May? We could fill their time um with different math things, but then they're they're taking four maths and the collegebound kids are taking three and a half. So there's still some logistical issues. So I don't know what the answer is. I'm just letting you know. helping you
052make a form decision. What is the um don't forget to sign in the staffing piece that comes into if they were to take the first semester but not the second and be able to fill that. Does it take contemporary math? Yeah, I'm just going to pull it up. Well, the because if we had the right people that coaching and because with our with our junior high sports during the day, that's what throws us off because right now we're going to have a junior high teacher coming out, a high school teacher staying past her part-time status to teach the English while the English teacher's coaching basketball and Miss Flynn who was coaching basketball is now not coaching basketball. So, she would have nothing so she can teach it during that time. So creatively, we're able to
053make work this year. Can't guarantee that every year that's going to happen. Um depending on staff turnover. It just so happens that our current teaching classes or case loads um if I pull up if uh but that's that October through March time frame. Yes, we can pull off this year. Yes. But then what what do you do with those community college and tech college kids that want to take it from October to March? What do you do with them from August to October and March to May? Um, you know, the easy answer is, oh, they take a study hall. Well, study halls are just breeding grounds for behavior and wandering and things like that. So, have you seen any I think in the October to March time frame makes it a challenge, but to go
054back on a normal semester schedule, are there other programs? I'm thinking like CDL that the tech college offers to do like okay this is a great offer. I know that's an agent but I'm just using as example. There may be other classes that maybe we push align with the community colleges in our area tech college that would be options. So it's not so study hall isn't the option but there's some actual other technical CTE things depends on what miss uh the teacher that you have um Miss Tucker what is she comfortable teaching during that time or facilitating during that time because you say yeah you're going to be CDL during this time I can't help these kids on this or what about the I mean that's what I'm curious they provided it's there's an online
055dactic part that they take during a certain window. But then we found with the CDL in particular um because the state raised the amount of driving time, the kids either had to make uh miss two days a week for a month um to take that or take it right after graduation if it worked in their very disappointing to see what a great program that could be and how few kids take advantage of it because of all the logistical pieces. We just had a meeting with Bob County last week trying to find new avenues that we just could go because and they're wanting to work with us as opposed to and I use CD as an example like showing other things that those we have some of those old uh NC3 modules that they could be
056working through and stuff but again if you typically find that if the kids are being forced into something that they're it's non-elected that they've chosen they're going to fight it. you know, if we say you're going to do precision measurement, you're going to do um the mic micrometers and what you know, they if they don't want if they that's why we have electives, you select what they're interested in, but it's but it's also the reason we're thinking about getting rid of half of a math credit is so we're not forcing kids to take a half of a math class that they that they also don't want or need. So, I mean, I I would encourage you to keep looking for other solutions of what what can what can they do during that other with those
057uh community college and NCK or uh tech college kids that uh would take that contemporary. Um the plan right now is they would do basically a contemporary math prep up to October so that they're up to speed with their algebra 2 skills or whatever that they haven't had so that they're successful in that contemporary math. And then from March to May, there is the there's a uh business math class that she usually teaches towards the end of the year anyway in that senior math that she does now. That's credit cards and interest rates and all those type of things. And the kids seem to enjoy that because they see that it's happening. So really we're talking more about the kids that are taking college algebra and then not stats where where they Well, it sounds
058like you guys figured out this this next. Yeah. And we're going to continue three and a half seems I don't know. I I don't know. And and the one of the questions we had was are we going to be at three and a half anyway even if we drop it to three because those college kids want that half and the tech kids and communities want that half. It's just going to be the ones that are going to the workforce. I don't need any of it that don't. They're just looking at opposite college algebra right now. The way the schedule's set, for example, um of your elective teachers, um El Brock's in sixth grade band, seventh grade art, there's a weights class, eighth grade woods, seventh grade business, eighth grade egg, and a lifetime sports. So,
059uh we would be taking we would be funneling all those kids into weights or lifetime sports unless they you know, if they're somebody that wants to take a online college, you know, that's another option for that pathway of kids. And correct me if I'm wrong. From my understanding, the way enrollment was done, it fits this model, so to speak. Um, and that's what I asked Mrs. Flynn, too, is I I want as much input from her as we can get. As an exmath teacher, I understand the need that that we we need that. Um, I always think of quote from if you don't use, you lose it. That is def definitely the case with math. And so we want to make sure that we are preparing our kids. Um, and maybe this is something that
060we we need to look in the future to determine how it's going to look moving forward. I just as as Mark and I talked, it wasn't that we were just trying to to give kids an out. We're trying to make sure that it was productive time and we kind of thought maybe that was an unintended consequence was just dropping a three. And so we want to get continue to have that discussion. And I don't know that we need to have a decision made right now necessarily based on enrollment, but I appreciate the perspective of how do you fill the half thing? You know, I I want Oh, surely we can find some I think that it's as easy as if we go to three and a half, we'll find out what works and what doesn't
061and and not having to go all the way back to three, you know, I take it the personal finance class doesn't have we don't that doesn't count as an a math credit. you something you talked about like a lot of it that's taught in that class is math but it doesn't count as a math a a licensed math teacher can't teach at aquarium state list online courses and a lot of those are are there I mean is there a nice variety yeah yeah it depends on what the kids are going to do most of the kids that are going on a full-fledged math b or full-fledged college pathway that take college algebra they might as well knock out a psych or a social or western civ or some other elective um you know even the
062kids that are going into the the tech college or the um community college route, they could they they all have to have some kind of elective college classes, too. So, that is a good solution. It becomes a little tougher for the contemporary math kids because they're taking it. You only have a short block of a semester and then right in the middle you've got the basketball season and then a short block. So, it makes it tougher for them to get that knocked out. The other problem I would say that we run into with college classes online is a typical college class is Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 50 minutes on campus. Uh we give these kids five days a week, five days a week for 47 minutes. They're in they run out of things to do
063and they're in the library and they're wanting to be on their phones. They're wanting to, you know, watch video games or whatever because truthfully we give them more time than they get on campus. Um, so there's no right answer. I No, I think three and a half is a great we start with start with that and say, you know, because because we're not we're not going to cut our throats either way on that. Yes. You you you give us chance to see the the benefits and the drawbacks of doing it and we would know know better after a year or two probably. So I think most of those kids that take college algebra and then don't want to take stats, they will easily be guided into an online course that goes towards their postsecary degree
064anyway and they're not going to cause us a lot of problems in the library on their off days. Um it's probably going to be more of what those contemporary math kids are doing before and after math. How we structure that to keep them happy. And as an exmath teacher too, I like the the plan that Mr. Myers has of getting all that foundational stuff, getting their their their math mind back up, start that class, and then I think what's planned afterwards is something that almost any 18-year-old kid is going to find relevant of credit cards, loans, interest rates, and things like that. And so the relevancy is going to help keep them um and and it may be, you know, those MC3 some of those NC3 module trainers that we have. We still got those
065AC/DC trainers and the precision measurement dat and the uh um some of those kids that are going the technical route. They may want to sit and it's supposed to be able to be self-guided on an iPad with flip charts and tests on your own speed, things like that. So, we may be able to find an interest in some of those technical kids that are waiting to take this. Well, thank you. I appreciate you also mentioned the CDL thing that really was to my attention but I was you know in there this semester and I thought man this is awesome saving them so much money and then it is we just ran into logistics after logistics it just not so much the math credit thing but with the CDL and some of that um with with
066NCC for with us becoming our own Perkins consortium um Mr. Jansen at Wakanda, he's kind of taken over that and kind of want someone to kind of play in the NCKC4 meetings and and I have this vision of not to say that we don't want to use those partnerships, but at the same time, maybe we can do some stuff on our own. And so that's going to be the focus this next year is how can we provide our students between us, maybe our neighbors as well to provide them some opportunities that they can't get through some other partnerships. So, and and it could be some job shadowing stuff. So, if I'm hearing correctly, I think the next time we actually formally act on it will be when we approve um handbooks and that's where it's
067written as far as what the requirements are. So, um I'll plan to write it as three and a half credits and we can revisit it. now2 probably June. Yeah, I do. Oh, just need to find my pen. That's it. Mr. You want to Okay. Yeah, I want to jump back to uh 4B. Um this is the FBLA request for national competition since we have some guests here. So, the floor is yours. established number that the government gives for national. How did you guys do for your um fundraising this year? We did the Texas house again. That went pretty good. That's our main one. We have a concession stand tomorrow and we're bringing in our own beef and our own hot dogs and everything. So that's purely profit. So we're to make 1500 off that. So
068that's where is your location going? So yeah, uh our considered national competition. Yes. Okay. So I'll move to preserve funding for the national competitions of 1500 per organization. Second. All those in favor? Uh, we'll say 6. I don't have I don't see Kenny, so I don't know if he's on there. Oh, there he is. 70. Okay. Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. Enjoy. Have fun. I don't get a good I think I think on their own they're going to uh Disney something or other, whichever one's out there. Yeah. Okay, we'll keep rolling here. Um 6E is to review the 25 26 student adult meal pricing. It's just that time of year is the state kind of gives guidance and I let Janet chime in here too that we're not fully in compliance but we're not crazy
069out but they're they're kind of encouraging us to make those gradual steps that it doesn't u so basically the it's the same as last year. We we were about about 85 cents I think about the same out of compliance last year. This year the national average went up a little bit. So we're still right in their 84 85 cents out of compliance. Uh as far as the students meals, the adult meals, we are fine. We we up those quite a little bit last year. Uh and we're still within within um our parameters there. But the recommendation by the state, they also do not want to see us gouge any of anything that would be a hardship to our families. And really any more than 10 or 20 cents is considered a hardship to families. So
070their recommendation is not more than 10 or 20 cents a year up. My recommendation would be that, you know, last year we went up 10 cents. I think it's probably fair that we stick with that 10 cents. Again, that's that's a a small amount and is a little more easily uh swallowed than than going much larger than that. That brings us closer to compliance. And the state as far as being in compliance, they'd like us to be in compliance, but they also don't want to uh harm any of the families for us getting there. So, they really want us to make a slow process of that. eventually we can can kind of close the gap but over several years. So 385 is what compliance would be. Yes. Well 80 each one of them 85 cents
071higher. So for uh like that's elementary 85. Right. Right. Well so yeah. Well, well, actually, actually, it' be 375 because it'd be from the 290. Oh, yeah. So, well, it's you I mean, you're How many How many lunches do you eat?und I would say 160 would be a safe number. So, $16 is what a 10- cent increase is for lunch, price. No, I'm not worried about that. For for a kid for a year, 10 cents be 16 bucks, right, for a for a family to pay. And it's across the board. So it would be breakfast, too. But not everybody eats breakfast. Uh yeah, there's not there's not a uh Yes. I make a motion to increase lunch and breakfast for elementary students and high school students per meal. Second. All those in favor? 70 uh
0726. Sorry, Brandon's not here. Okay. Um, we will move to uh item 6F that we added. This is a discussion on the 2526 school calendar. Um, Wayne, are you in a position where you can discuss some of your concerns with the calendar that you've received? Yeah, I had some complaints that well we jacked with graduation weekend date and that that by screw with that it coincides with uh Kates and Fort Hates graduation next year and uh what I got to find my paper. I wrote the crap down because my memory sucks. have and that we're also going to be having activities such as ball games over various breaks, which wasn't really well received from what I was told. Uh, and I guess I'll leave it up to anybody else that's heard some discussions discussion on
073graduation. Um because this year's graduation was on the 10th and next year they thought the corresponding date would be the 9th because it seems to be the lot second Sunday or second Saturday of the month but and it's Mother's Day weekend when it typically is but with the calendar that's adopted um if we were to go on the 9th next year I don't know myself I have not plugged it into that calendar we're not sure that we would have enough contact hours able to ava uh um have our seniors have meet. So state state statute says that the minimum hours because we adopt to use hours versus days is 1,116 hours for K12 well K11 and seniors minimum is 1,086 hours which is based on a seven and a half hour day is a difference
074of four days. So we have some extra days built in. I get that because of snow days and everything else. We've happened to used about all those the last couple years, but our last day of school is on a Thursday, which if you go back four days, that puts them not going to school this last week. Seniors are out last as of last week. And it works based on the calendar that was adopted. Thanksgiving break has it's a full week is what the the teachers chose on that that calendar. So there's two extra days that we have to go to school because of the days off of Thanksgiving. Now, I had a teacher tell me directly that that was that was split 5050 between the teachers on lengthening those breaks. They didn't give us that
075information. I don't that's not what we were told. We were told this was the option that they wanted. So that's the option that we went with. Well, is LinkedIn and nose breaks out the best thing to do and then push the school year longer? I have I have no dog in the fight. I don't care. It makes no difference to me. It's we we turn that turn those options over to the teachers and generally let them select the one that they want and we just adopt it. We don't the board doesn't usually even have an opinion on it. So I know in my ability the talk was that it was overwhelmingly in support of all the breaks. That's the way I understood it. Yeah, that's I mean there was no doubt now what yeah what
076that vote breakdown was I mean that's up any no idea but I would be interested in finding out maybe I just happen to know visiting with some Thunder Ridge people at a track meet like they've been out for a while like the seniors everybody um I don't know what their breaks are like I I don't know you know just are our teachers considering like what other schools are doing around us when they're voting on those things. I don't know the answer to that. Unlike Mark, I don't really care. Personally, I would like if if I had my preference, I would like to see a little bit shorter breaks and an overall shorter school year and get kids out and have a longer summer. That's my opinion, but that's not how everybody I mean, that's not
077necessarily best for kids either for some for learning. So, I mean, that's I'm just curious what everyone's doing around us, too, when if we're going to dig into it. and Kenny that there's there's so many there's so many layers to this discussion too because again it's based on that 11 16 hours. There's districts that go 20 minutes longer than we do each day. Well, that all of a sudden over the span of a school year takes off three or four or five days, whatever the case may be. And that's what Thunderidge is for sure. They just got a long they have a longer day. Yeah, it's a joke because you those those extra 10 minutes don't get you extra that's a week and a half of lost school for 10 minute longer days. So again,
078what corresponds is because with how the current calendar it reads in order for the seniors to get enough hours, they would I mean you could have graduation on the 9th and just make seniors come back after graduation, but I would argue that that isn't a good situation. Done. Done. Only the ones whose parents are forcing them into the building. So, I I guess there there's there's multiple layers into that. And then um I guess that was another thing with the graduations is I did we just schedule it on other schools weekends as well, not just the colleges. We can't avoid that. I mean, we get that comment every year. It's on the same weekend as Superiors. Now it's on. Now it's on five birds. Now it's on to from Sunday to Saturday to make it
079more attractive for families because we have a lot of families coming out. You're not going to get you're not going to get everybody else. Yeah. Okay. Now, just to let you know, some of this is in negotiations. So, lucky you guys. So, um, some of your concerns or, um, some of the concerns that have been brought to you might be taken care of in negotiations. Oh, probably not unless the calendar's changed. Well, days of work, days, student contact, all that stuff. Some of these some of these things are we'll have to discuss in executive session, Wayne. But it does, what Candy just said, it has to do with some of their requests for professional development days, the number of those, the number of days at work days, student contact days, all of those things figure
080into that math. And so depending on how negotiations go and what decisions are made there may be some days that are that are either added or subtracted or so it it actually could change the math on it on the calendar. So some of that is a is yet a little unresolved even though that calendar has been adopted. Did I say that? Okay. Yes. Okay. Well, and and I'm sure this this particular like this year, next year, and the one after, you know, every seven years or throughout a seven-year time frame, the second Saturday on May is going to move from possibly the 8th to the 15th. And it's just where that hits in May plays a big role in how we let school out and when we have graduation. Some of it can't really be
081helped. You know, it's it's it's math. That's fine. I just wanted to bring the concerns everybody's attention. That's I think that's it's fair concerns and and uh I think because honestly I it doesn't affect me a whole hell of a lot one way or the other. Right. And that's and that's generally the I think the the position that the board has taken on that whole school calendar thing is that we it's it's not our it's not our call and it's not our preference and and you know it doesn't we're we're going to be doing the same thing regardless. So you know we try to let this the staff be you know have ownership of that and and that's what we did again this year and so it's if if there are those that have concerns
082among the staff they probably should be sharing those with their team leadership. So, well, it kind of sounds like maybe I wasn't told the full truth about how the staff felt on it. Maybe it was just this one individual had a problem. It's hard to say, Wayne. You know, yeah, so anyhoo, uh, no, that's fine. Whatever what works works. I I think it's I think it's a good discussion and it I guess what I'm saying is that there may be a few more pieces to this discussion that will come to fruition in the next month or so as negotiations progress. I'm fine by that. You mentioned something. Wayne, you mentioned something about ball games also. Can you expand on that? So, I I think I know what you're talking about, but I honestly didn't look
083the dates up. I was just told that there was some basketball games over Christmas break or something like that. Yes, there was. This is the first year that we're playing a holiday tournament. Um, Mr. yourself. You're a little bit more worldly than than me as far as the basketball world, but are holiday tournaments fairly common in some other um areas, districts, things like that? It's not common in the state of Kansas, but other districts do it quite often. I know in Nebraska, Missouri, one that we're in right now, um is half Nebraska schools and half Kansas schools, and then we you play at Nebraska school, then you bracket it into a tournament. The coach's reasoning for that was it's really hard to go three weeks with practice, practice, practice, practice and no games. And so
084they would rather get some games in that time so they don't get quite as rusty. That's Yeah, but they're they're also high school, not NBA or college. I mean, [Laughter] was um what what was part of this Sam? If I recall, some of the extenduating circumstances were those Nebraska teams that we play right before, during, or after Christmas. We were going to go up there and there's the shot clock and all that stuff going on. And so we were just kind of trying to avoid that. And so this holiday tournament kind of came out of that if I recall, trying to replace games on the calendar. Yes. and we because we wanted to get rid of the Nebraska schools that had the shot clock because we don't have it down here and um we're not
085in favor of that. I can I can spell out a little bit more on that when we get the other thing. Yeah, don't have to get into detail there. I just was thinking that's why the do that's the dominoes that I remember the coaches talking about that how this came to be. And the other half of that was Kesa expanded this year where you could move from 20 to 23 games. We already play every Tuesday, Friday. So the only way to increase any if the coaches wanted to was to play on Mondays or Saturdays or things like that and they would rather do it over that big break than on Saturday. There's there say no Christmas tournaments, huh? No Christmas tournaments. No, you would have a tournament over Christmas. We do have a tournament over
086Christmas. Yeah. Also hear you say we could expand to 22 games. That's where I was just headed. We could go to 23. schools went understood. But but that I was just I was about ready to hit on that same point, Bren. Um that if there is if if we're looking as a school district to increase the number of ball games of any sport or or whatever events of any sport, who makes those decisions? How do I mean, how does that come about? How does Yeah, because obviously if if I'm a coach, I'm probably going to want my kids going to as many games, tournaments, d whatever they are, um meets, everything that may not be reflective of the parents in our community, you know, like who makes the decision, how are we gaining input on
087that? How is that? Because it it's not a board decision how many basketball games we're playing. In in the league, for example, I just pulled it up. Most schools in our league went to 21 games. We're at 21 games. Um, from where? How many last year? From 20. Um, but we wanted to stay away from the Saturday games and the Monday, Tuesday backtoback games. And so that's why the coaches give the most input on. Yeah. Well, I that's a I I wasn't aware of that till I'm sorry. I wasn't aware of that till just now. Um, the holiday tournament, you mean? Yeah. That's a that's a big that's a big change and that's going to get some push back. Punish kids for not going to practice over that nonation mortorium. Well during the mortori I'm
088saying outside of the mortorium. I I hear you because we also tell our parents schedule your vacations during breaks so that you're not missing school and now they're gonna miss ball games. Yeah. Does that the key here is could go to 23 games not have to go to 23 we've been doing it for years. I I am totally frustrated by this. I don't even know where to start. But I I don't I I really question whether this is really what's best for kids and and like we have this discussion all the time and it is adding more basketball games, elongating the season over the adding more practices. I would think that's what we do what are we trying to accomplish? We we started adding practices during the week as the week would go on this
089year. So I mean I know that's a discussion for another time, but we we start we we'd start a week with schedule practices. D and before the week was over, we'd have oh, one hour's more. And I mean, where where do where do we say? Yeah, like Brendan's saying, at what point is is enough enough? And is this really what's best for kids? And and I agree as a as a former coach, you have to have practices over break. You can't give kids two or three weeks of nothing. But then if if the practice you schedule happens to be when that kid's on vacation or something and therefore they they don't play the next I mean there's a lot of pieces there and and adding more things to the brakes is I guess I'm just
090saying that's a concern. So and like how would you like me to proceed from this? I don't know. It's I'm not even obviously we have time on that. Yes. And and it and obviously we Certainly not the only school district in the world that would be having those discussions. But what's the date made this decision? What's that? Do we have any idea why you made this decision? Which one? The number of games. I have no idea. I'm sorry, which is your athletic? I didn't know where it just it and it it comes up with not just about it starts it starts with baseball and softball is where it starts really and it's because well if you want to go all the way back the summer rules were different in Kansas versus a lot of the
091neighboring schools and so then a lot of the coaches and and the KAA wanted to get us comparable to the other states around us right and so that's what added to all the stuff in the summer you talked to Oklahoma, they play baseball. They played 45, 50 games of baseball. We're at 20. So, it expanded that. Then you start talking, and again, a lot of times this is your 5A, 6A schools that seem to have a stronghold on KH. They go to Kansas City schools or play in Missouri and this and that. So, it's the push to keep up with the other surrounding states. I'm talking what's the advantage to our kids in this context? I mean, what's the advantage academically to the extra? I I give we want to offer it, but I I
092I struggle to see how lengthening it correlates to better academic success. Lengthening season's not or adding to the the season's not getting any longer. It's just there's more games instead of practice. You're replacing a practice day with a game. Asking someone to move from sports, my opinion is much different than it was 10 years ago. Calcation makes their decisions. We're fighting them on a couple things right now. the shot box is one of them because 87% of the 1A schools said we don't want it ever and they said anyway it's coming and so we're like um and same thing with the eightman football they bumped 89% of the coaches they eightman coach said they didn't want the number to go up but Elsene and Bennington didn't want the number to go up so they could
093stay eight and so they got so we're This is our rep uh Jeremy Long. He's trying to coordinate with the other leagues and the eightman football association and the KBA basketball association to force to answer the question of why are you ignoring your constituents. So we I don't remember ever a conversation with our case rep, but that's essentially who's making the decisions and we No, he's he represents our our leader. Yeah, I know. I understand that. But I'm saying but he's not on the executive board. He doesn't vote on that, but he makes a he's a part of the recommendation. No, no, he's just our rep that goes and gets to listen and who the executive board is the ones that vote on it. I think Dr. Graves from Tescuit is on the executive board.
094The problem is there's 30 executive board members. Four of them are 1A. The rest are four, five, six, seven A. And so when they vote on it, four vote the four 1A's vote against it and it passes 26 to four. But that's not that's not right. The number of schools itself is telling that's why we're saying that in itself is telling. We need an electoral college for this. Not only are we saying that we don't like the decision, we're saying that you're not we don't like the process that you're getting. All right, we got way off. I'm sorry. No, you're fine. No, because I struggle with what we're trying to accomplish and the efforts it's going to take by us in coaching and parents to meet that need and and for what that's and I
095don't know how to I don't either and I don't know when when is the right time to have that discussion and I don't even know who should be the ones at the table for the discussion. Yeah, I honestly my first go-to on this would be fur with Zack D because he's the one that is more of a basketball. Districts are allowed to nominate for board. I don't I don't know how if you're not on the executive board, does it really matter? You basically just go meet and listen to whatever it is and then that's you go on back there. I believe executive board much bigger than us but I think uh Cipher and Deoy he's a president principal at Deoy High I I'll come back with some more information I'm not super excited about it
096saying yes on I just what I don't know I have a feeling our our phones are going to ring that one. But even though it's allowed to, you can still play 15 games. That's the punitive piece. It's it's the decision that all it seems to be another thing within our control is the punitive piece to our kids on their choosing to participate over Christmas break. Oh, no. How much how much how much do we allow for them to be punished, penalized? I do know this and I had this conversation. I I don't remember the full context of it. Do you have your policies in place? What about those families that are going to be gone? Are are these kids in trouble because this is scheduled break? And so I I'll have to just it's it's
097a very gray area, too, because you know, you can you can always say, well, this is this it's purely optional. Purely optional. Purely optional. Yeah, it's optional, but you know, there's still a con there's still going to be a consequence most likely. So, I was say we used to cancel things if there was something over breakfast because my kids would not miss. Yeah. So, okay. All right. Well, fix our frustrations. That's it. Like I said, no basketball turn turned into a bigger discussion. We've essentially started we planned the school year around football practice around starting. I mean essentially we built our schedule around start practices. Yeah. So I mean CA is running our calendar whether we like it or not. So how far are we going to let them run our calendar? I don't know
098if if it was me if we were following Quisha we wouldn't be out of school two weeks before three weeks before state tra. I know why that we're starting the first week of casea practices. Aren't we? Well, practices start the week after. Yeah, we'll be in school three days before you can have fall practice. See how it used to be where we we were in a hole. We were started practicing. Yes. I never asked that. No, not anymore. Can we start earlier than the last two three years that and state track used to be like the week after you got out of school, not three weeks after start on the 20th or after I didn't realize that we were starting at I knew that but I didn't and then we turn around to pick us
099up and I want to private state back. But dude, we're so exhausted. Okay. Shall we can we move on or is there more for Okay. I I'm not saying that that discussion is over by any means. It's so it's not free. Yeah. Okay. Uh we will move on to action items. A is the Mapson Miller audit agreement. That's there's a copy of that in your folder. I I assume this is the annual agreement to use them as our auditor. The start of a new kind of like a fiveyear agreement or Oh, it's a fiveyear. I guess I thought we went yeartoear with them. I think they give us a price for several years at a time. And I was looking up last year's price to make sure that LA this this year we just paid
100them $8,900. that was the price. So that kind of gives you a little talk about it every year. Yeah, that's that's part of this discussion every year is and finding one is very very hard. There's not very many that do this anymore and that come this far. We have we would have to start a little earlier in the year uh putting out a request for there's pros and cons. It's you you got somebody that knows your system and is easy to work with and has been given us good service and easy to easy to get help from and but you also obviously the idea of an audit is to find out where there might be problems and they're retaining the paperwork for our report. Oh, so it's not a five-year agreement. No, it's not. This
101is this is their agreeing to retain our workp papers related to this audit for a period of at least five years. So, this is just a um the other thing is is uh we pass all of our audits with flying colors and I think that has a lot to do with um the nature of their audit. They're extremely thorough and nitpicky and um so we we work very hard so that we get a good audit with them. Oh boy, that's where I was going. Yeah. And it's the right thing to say. Like that's because we don't know what they're not telling us. And Mason Miller has at times not told us things. Yeah. Because they didn't want to tell us. So that's the point that would be the point of changing audit audits so that
102you would have It's not that you wouldn't know what you don't but it's something you need. Yeah. I uh I'm fine with them for another year. I just what I would like to see is let's get this on the calendar in January for this discussion right up against the end component. So if so we have time to go seek another auditor feel that's necessary. So right because they're they are by us signing this contract we will not have a lapse. They answer the phone every day if we have questions and and so I I am not questioning their ability. I'm questioning our fiduciary responsibility to ensure of always using the same company to do the audit company has tremendous risks and I know one one that does come here is Lloyd Group and he is
103amazing. He's the one that does the KAG training. I know they come to so they they come close to this area they're doing the last couple years. I'll tell you there's one in Washington I don't want he doesn't spend but an hour at the district and doesn't doesn't do any of what makes a miller dust and double check RFP out for that. How does that work? You would have to because it's a service you don't have. Yeah, you would have to write up something. Are there a list of auditors for school districts that you pick from? I was just saying, "Hey, we're interested. What's your bid?" How does that work? I just reach out to those. Um, and I have to reach out to any and all neighbors around and figure out. I do know
104there's a couple that people are trying to jump ship on and they're ask I've received a couple emails about, hey, what's people using because we're not getting what we want out of ours. I know a lot of them. Yes. This this direction down. I can I can ask everybody I know what they who they use. Um, I don't know that I'm asking that. I I I do think I'd rather have this in my January or February agenda item as part of our board book recommended items so that if we're going to make this decision, we're not up against this thing. That decision needs to be made three for four months and we can get a list of people of CPAs that do this because not everyone does, but we can come up with a list
105of of those firms in Kansas that do offer this and those that offer this area. I'm fine motioning to Mr. at all. Second. All those in favor? 70. Okay. Uh I guess we are ready for executive session A then I missed anything. I don't think you have an A B. We don't have an A. No, we do not. I no student. Well, and B address the email with a person with Lacy so she can go back. Sure. Yes, that's fine. Yes, do that. How long you want? Um she's Yeah, we'll just go to 240. Six minutes probably be good. Okay, then Mr. President, move we go into executive session with Mr. elves and thank you. Oh, with lazy that would have worked too personnel accept meeting on Zoom at the boardroom at 2:40. Second. All
106those in favor 70. Okay, we are back in open session. No action from that. Uh, do we have any more on under the B? Yes. Uh, yes, we do, don't we? Yep. And I'm sorry I didn't put anything on your page two agenda because I guess I didn't know we had stuff. So, no, we're fine. We're just we're going to do another uh employee contract executive session. Mr. Myers, how much how many minutes do you need? 10. Yeah, that work. Okay. And I think we're done with Miss Keller. Okay. Thanks, Lacy. Yeah. Actually, let's go to 3:00. Okay. Okay. Uh, Mr. President, I move we go into executive session with Mr. CS and Mr. Myers to discuss employee contracts. Pursuant to the non-elected personnel except Senator Coleman, the open meeting will resume at board at
1073:00. Second. All those in favor? 70. There you go. Okay, we are back in open session. Uh, we do have some action. Janet, I make a motion to non-renew Travis Cox as social studies at the social studies teacher at the junior senior high at the end of 2425 school year. Second. All those in favor? Kenny, are you on? Okay. 70. I make a motion to approve supplemental recommendations as given for the 2526 school year. Second letter right. All those in favor? 70. Okay. Uh we are ready for another executive session. Uh Brandon, another uh employee contracts. Okay. Let's go. Um let's go. 3 20. Okay. And let's uh it'll be the board, Mr. Cells. Uh and an invitation to Janet to Janet. Oh. All right. Now, Mr. President, I move to go into executive session.
108Mr. Cells present and an invitation to Miss uh to discuss employee contracts pursuant to the non-elected personnel. The open meeting will resume at the boardroom at 320. Uh, all those in favor 70. Are you done? I think so. Thank you, Sam. Have a great day. Are my recommendations the number of basketball games? Thank you. Okay, we are back in executive or back back from executive session, back in open session. Um, and we are ready for our Yeah. Do we need a break? Everybody ready to keep rolling? Keep rolling. All right. Um, how much time? A couple of days. Yes. Maybe more minutes. We can I don't have a whole lot. I mean, we got a few things. We were gonna kind of hit hit it hard with the insurance information and stuff on our next
109meeting. So 10 10 minutes for now. We're still in open session, so careful what you say. Yeah, they already know about that, right? We're good. All right. Um, so how long do you want then? Let's just do 10 minutes. 10. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Just leave it here. Okay. Mr. President, move to go into executive session with Mr. those present to uh discuss employer employee negotiations concerns in the exception for employer employee negotiations in the comment board at 4:34. Second. All those in favor 70. Okay, we are back in open session. There is no action. Second. All those in favor of adjournment 70. Thank you. He just still wains thunder.