001it they never even notice I didn't get my usually start ital so I don't need to do a tax okay it's six o'clock so we'll go ahead and get started when we take break yeah another you do stop okay um should have the agenda as printed I don't think we have any changes or additions tonight so I would accept the motion to approve the agenda second all those in favor 70 consan agenda you guys all sign in please have everybody sign in legibly um recognize now yeah sorry getting ahead myself I did I just was thinking that was part of the same one there so we will pause on that and we will recognize our guests as soon as they have a chance to get signed in while they're getting signed in um I'll just
002let you guys know that I've been working with Miss Keller and Mr Myers about trying to find uh student groups to come in present to the board about just different activities and things that are going on and so um I had Mr Myers check with M elck about our students that traveled for band and so I asked them if they wanted to present and kind of give them a give you guys a little inside on what exactly they did with the K stuff so okay it's all yours don't everybody volunteer at once and honor band um it was my first time ever going my hotel I got to experience bigger amount and fun experience I got to people and then it was fun what instrument do you play I play Clarin okay yeah we appreciate
003you coming and sharing with us jaob the sophomore and I play trumpet I went to the state cier as well and the music was really fun we got to play with an audio track which was very new because you're used to trying to keep up with each other but then you throw in a digital track and try and keep up with that too that is very interesting and threw a lot of us off it sounded cool but a lot of the music I really like just being out and being able to hear all these instruments you don't usually get here and be able to blend together and just get that b Fuller experience that well our little school isn't used to so it's really cool to listen to everybody especially when instruments have solos especially
004ones you don't typically hear and for the most part I think the music look pretty cool thank you senior it's my third time going to say k instead the one 12a on our band um it's pretty this band specifically is a pretty new thing we're trying to make it like a All State type thing you know kind of test the waters and and whatnot but in my three years I've met like a whole bunch of people and I've seen the same people through those years and you know some there's kids in the league that make it in and I'm you know pretty close with some of them and good friends um yeah H was a fun experience um our director was was really cool he used to be the associate director of the Air Force
005Academy band and the Air Force Academy band in Washington DC um so she used to be active Air Force now she's in the Air Force National Guard and mostly you know I'm in the Army Nation guard so it was really cool to kind of meet with her and do all that um and we had we went to like throughout our days there we went to a concert um what they called aladas or something um um these four ladies that have practiced music like all their lives I mean the violinist and a cello and pianist and they like had they presented a concert to everybody was like a rock band and they redid songs and Movie themes and whatnot it was really cool and we all got to experi that there was an exision Hall with
006a whole bunch of booos of like universities or music scores or whatnot and we got to walk around that for a couple hours you know experience talking to everybody and you know like K State and wiah State Oklahoma State everybody was there um there was just a whole bunch of kids in one spot walking around this big Hall and you could connect with all of them in a way with music it's pretty Co awesome do you plan to pursue band and col um well I have definitely thought about it um I'm thinking more just K State marching sorry pet band not marching band because um I'm likely going to miss band camp because of basic training this summer um so I don't know how that's going to work out and Mar is a lot more
007time consuming than the pet band is um but yeah I I hope to do some sort of something with K State bands B what are you playing I'm the trumpet player trumpet yeah I was uh also I was a second chair trumpet this year and I was second chair last year too that's pretty high you know second level trumpet it um so I got to play all the first parts and there like the songs were harder this year like our director picked them out they were really hard but we sound it amazing and there are some parts where it was just me and the first chair trumpet playing and that was awesome but super hard to do and I mean we're lucky that we Haven sub Ro to teachers all these things and take us
008these Point yeah it's awesome I appreciate you guys representing us at a state level too I else went to League vanand that's hosted here bring all the kids in our league and that that was a great concert good job there that was not in name but she was there were three Sam Underwood DAV Foy and Katie rer but Katie graduated so it's just Davin and Sam now how many kids were in League band this last month 125 and how many Rock are those it was it was a great concert really nice in was just about the same size maybe slightly larger and but there were a lot of different instruments mixed in there that we don't usually play with like an OBO or weird read big giant internet where the kid had to sit on
009a stool because he wasn't call enough to play it yeah it was pretty cool thank Youk you Barb for all your work thank you for coming appreciate it proud of you guys for your accomplishments mine probably shouldn't was more I was you don't want me to sing but I can still play my flute I have two them my mom does too my mom mine I play the flute and OBO saxophone and clarinet should say that's it okay we will move on then to the consent agenda anyone have any questions second all those in favor seven zero um board member reports we have one that Brendan has asked to share some experiences and some photos with us so um I uh two things I was able to go with to Topeka with the Juniors this last
010uh we last week know had a good day it's always a fun time I haven't able to go in a few years but see the Mier I meet the governor I don't saw it on Facebook but and um actually we uh friends with the director in kbi so we got to do a little one-on-one with him he's a cool guy and has cool stuff to say um and our state legislators and so forth got to see some cool committee hearings day on the floor visited they were debating a uh I I didn't follow it really close to but some about licenses and they got a listen to an agriculture committee discussion on water and reservoirs in Kansas and so it was a good day of was of uh just learning how the process work and
011then they also visited the which we used to visit the Supreme Court and then we ended up transitioning I went a few years back and started having kids go to the brown V board the virt board Brown V board historical um school it's a national historical side TOA they do a phenomenal job explaining MA cour case and how the federal court system works just in general so I I thought that was really glad they made it back safe so was glad our kids take that trip um my other Venture I got I just got home from is um I uh I'm going to K ASB board this last uh meeting and every year they rotate the we go visit the District of the president uh once a year so that's we do a district visit
012kind of an in-depth Day visiting other school districts last year Council Grove that was my first meeting I didn't really know what's going on so I didn't quite understand it but it it was cool to see how other districts do things it's where I saw a whole bunch of majer schools that you know that were meant to be temporary but are now they're 30 years old but uh we this year we visited uh the KSP president Uh Kevin Cole is from LEC County 506 it's a school district about 1,200 students it's 4A maybe 1500 but they're right next to Parsons The Parson not included they uh have one high school but it's five communities of 1200 people or less um and they have five k through eights buildings and all those communities in one high
013school but they're they're not a highly populated area of Southeast Kansas Barson's the big city it has it own school um but like almost because of some of the things they're doing in leet County how I'm going to walk show you uh they're importing about importing about 20% of their students from outside the district in fact continues to grow practition 30% because of what they're doing in their current technical education field and that's why I I took some I took some pictures also along the trip I got a visit with their they have a communication specialist for bigger district and they serve at that in that total capacity but it was kind of interesting to buit with her on her role and how she helps you know share all these things with ch can take
014that culture so enjoyed that visit as well but to Dive Right In um so essentially they have Partnerships with leet County Community College as well as Coffee County Community College they really just go seek the community college that has the interest and then uh they're large enough and and recognize that where at a lot of these programs and teachers are the staff is being supplied by the Community College um uh we're going to I'll show you a house that the kids built they build a house a year and essentially the instructor has an associates degree but he was a former home builder and works through the college and is doing an amazing job teaching kids how to build homes in little towns and we got a two one so this is that first all to
015start their FFA project they have a they use their erra funds probably about 20 30% of their eser funds they did do a little bit of teacher retention but like like a lot of US District did but they cornered a lot of their funds to go to their current tech ed program to pay for some special equipment and things in Cent track edfield um some of them are like this is a cat they have an animal science program and like a little vet a vet Med program for their kids they're doing U this is like a calf doctoring simulator the one behind it is an artificial in ination um uh simulator um that's what that looks like looks like and so they teach kids how that looks like they all these Cent teched um models
016uh they had uh they use this right I didn't a good picture of it but this little thing is like a a cing simulator where they teach them how to pull calves this is all the different size of calves you feel for uh when you're pulling a calf and things like that so again this is what they spent this this is their vet Med class um of high school students that now this teacher specifically was an FFA instructor that specialized in uh the animal scence just his special as animal sciences and had another one that was more related to the Agronomy in crop they have a farm too where they have have two Farms they have one that's for livestock so they can go out and they have a small cow herd and it's helped
017by the community and they have another one cropping that they that the kids use and help and it's a money maker for them a lot of stuff donated but their um their patrons helped keep that going donate the seed fertilizer even equipment at times to help them manage their Farm both Farms went through their shop and they got a you know it's not a new shop by means but it's bigger but what's interesting is all the different projects they had they had uh antique tractors newer tractors they were teaching kids to work on a huge metal break in their shop uh they were so they they could build some of these big Traders had a water jet that they were doing all sorts of cool projects and there's a couple their pictures in here they
018were cutting out several different welder booths that kids to learn in and progress through both uh Mig and Arc sorry if you guys can't see that real um a part of their CT is they had an embroidery system I think we have one of those right so they do a lot of stuff they make things for kids um they were actually at the Showcase at the ksb convention one of the schools that showcase what they did they make t-shirts hat cups you know laser printed things all that and sell all that and then give scholarships back to their kids based on how much time they put into that uh business that's a screen printer heater they had a actual CNC mill that's a very expensive piece of equipment they have a whole CNC shop program
019that's a more expensive bigger Mill um they were able to get and many of these were the for they were able to acquire some of their older machines out of the old ammunition Army plant but this is some new stuff they use their their um eser money on uh but they have a whole milling and and machining uh program and instructor again through I think I don't know that went through coffee but it's a it's one of the instructors that comes in and teaches those kids how to do that program all of them are full all of them have waiting lists of kids wanting to get in there um the uh this is their house kind of well um so their drafting class they all they designed the house so I don't know if that's
020where oh I'll get to that here in a second but uh they this is their Electronics they had an instructor which I'm a shocked they could find an instructor to do this and they know it's a rarity who will teach the kids basic Electronics maintenance and so forth um he's been again he's with Coffee County Community College Works through them it's a full course and those kids are sought after immensely by all over of folks wanting to hire them for what they learn I was just thoroughly impressed with that because I don't know of any other high school that has that especially is this is a little town this is a bunch of little towns with one bigger high school but it's I said none of the towns are over 1,200 in population uh they
021had an auto mechanics uh part of their shop had a few lifts uh they were working on individual Vehicles they had a few just sample tear down Motors they tear down build them back they a diesel section just an old c motor and a and a few other things like that um they had some donor Vehicles that's all they do is sit there and they're like that's you know it's the you learn how to put on a set of brakes you learn how to do simple body work learn how to a door works replace a door handle they they they're just the donor vehicles that they're constantly being worked on and used uh they don't ever intend to be rain again but it's a great thing for a p for the kids to learn their
022body now our kids are doing this through our Technical College uh in beloy but it was cool to see what that looks like in the system uh get another donor vehicle they had many instructors do they have had three uh three Aon instructors so an animal sign crop and a welding the welding instructor was from leet County he is a this tends to be the more Norm of the welding programs is if you have a facility they will come teach it um and so that's uh that's that's pretty common if you work with like Northwest Tech uh as you see them provide they'll they'll they'll provide that instructor if you have a facility that he can come teach in and then that that's said the the electrical instructor uh but I don't think he's a
023full-time teach I see were just works for cloud or coffee I think at you know when needed um and then the um this is the laboratory yeah that they that a Milling instructor again all those instructors work for the community colleges they don't work for the district because of Senate Bill 51 like our kids take advantage of an urrent Tech headfield so they're they're not employees of the district but there's the district has the facilities to be able to share with them this is the same way this is uh Lebec County hot Health Systems Community College runs a CNA program where they get their photomy license and all this they had a cool lab this is like a great big iPad I didn't get a good picture but they have all these simulators in the
024room where kids can learn how to take care uh they and so they're developing their CNA then they have this partnership with the leet County Hospital basically that if you'll come work for them they'll guarantee him summer jobs and basically them put him through nursing school and guarantee him a job when they get out it's a pretty fluid program right up to through in and through the hospital within LEC County I'll talk about the gym later but had a black room uh they took an old church in their community and made it a theater uh Black Room Theater I never knew it the to a blackbox theater never heard of it before but what it was essentially is it's a it's it's a place where they they do improv and develop their theater Productions and
025all that they have a 2,000 seat Auditorium I've never seen Auditorium so big in my whole life it was unbelievable but it was all built like the 1950s it was actually the community theater at one point but anyway it was I never I could you walk in you can't believe 2,000 person theater in a school system like that but that was cool so sorry that's not um there's better pictures in here this thing this little iPad thing was cool because the kids can then go and learn about anatomy and and it's like I said it's a big iPad with cadavers that they can use to dissect the human body and take Anatomy with that uh uh I just thought was pretty fascinating there there's very few of those uh around especially for school students this
026is the home so they partnered with Coffee County to provide an instructor and the instructor was a former home builder younger guy I'd say maybe 30 maybe 35 I don't know it wasn't too old he had gone build homes ran his own company uh but then got hired on by and I Vis with him like what took you out of the Home Building business to come one to teach he's like just kind of burn out and I enjoy teaching and I just love doing this with these kids so they they built about 12 homes in their communities and this is this home I didn't get a good picture of it but essentially it's an 1,00 square foot home they charge um the P the school essentially pays for all the materials okay they had it's
027like a I think it's a three-bedroom with a onecar garage um they um they built it in a city similar in population to burck so this was probably the first new home built in that community in a long time they're built on site they're built on site this is not and and and what's unique is they were able to secure a grant to the Department of Commerce that allows them to get that the kids get hired on remember this the instructor still instructing them but the kids get hired on through the summer at like a 14 or $15 an hour wage so they have a job during the summer to also complete uh the house while they work on it and what what's even cooler is as these young kids so the seniors actually become
028project managers and they actually then help run a crew of sophomores and juniors through the summer and with the instructor and kind of help teach them how to uh build this house so not only they just doing the construction learning how to lead when they complete this program Crossland which is a big um construction company in southeast Kansas they then offer these kids these are high school kids say if you come out of this program we will now pay and they screen them somewhat but it was the stories of talking to some of these kids kids about how they just did not like school they did not want to go to another English class but this was the turning point for them on being like I have value in going into business for themselves or
029the different parts that some them like one of the kids was like I want to go into heavy equipment I like getting the dirt moved for the house and getting that set up and one kid was going to construction but Crossland will put them through pit State free of charge and don't Garen him a well over $80,000 job when they get out in four years by going through this program it and and they're building again building homes in really small communities smaller than ours uh on site uh it was impressive and allowed for that Grant because they're able to work through the summer to do that um it's beautiful home but they they essentially sold it to a teacher this one is going to a teacher so their total cost of building this home 1,800
030square foot was about $120 a square foot it's about 130,000 they sold it to the teacher uh for $150,000 which I think is very reasonable for a house brand new all the things uh and the kids did I mean there's a few things that they they hired out but it was very little the kids did all the form up um and help with the concrete they still had a company come in and help with that and there's a few other things but they electrical sheetrock uh built the cabinets uh the whole nine yards um they had a cool trap range and kind of a trap Club I know that's something we've talked about in the past but that was kind of cool to see and it's all been done Bas by volunteers how put it
031together and and uh it's a growing sport every where but really down there um they continue to just build they their construction class helps all over the community kind of work on things and build stuff um and just the way they do it so um sureg if there's anything else in my notes here but uh they they introduced their freshman I found it was kind of interesting oh I got talk about the gym sorry um they they Inu their freshman to this by running them every year they take three weeks out and the Freshman spend a couple days in each program learning about what I know in your report you had about you know visiting Bloyd and this and that but they they went pretty far in depth and giving them a little more exposure
032uh to make you know giving them a chance to really see what some of these programs are because a lot of them are starting in sophomores um in some of these programs and implementing them again being on campus that has an impact but um uh it's tremendous now the gym uh and it's pertinent because what we're to talk about building they went out era again rural County 80% tax based is agriculture just like us all the manufacturing is in Parsons rest of us just Farm ground everybody you know all the all the jobs are in commercial industry is in Parsons um they they needed a new like a lot of schools they had one old 1950 gym it's beautiful but they needed another one just for the high school nearby they didn't have one they
033all need a band room and a couple extra classrooms and all that they went out and got a bid it was $10 million like can't do this just not you know and we get that uh they came back and said okay let's get creative um they they they went a whole different process they leas purchased the gym uh basically they hired staff uh it was their own staff that did um all the they hired the concrete Port but they but they then hired a comp they basically General contracted it themselves through the lease purchase of the building and did about 80% of the work themselves and either hired they have a they have a m bigger maintenance staff with with six seven buildings they've got eight on maintenance staff but they basically subcontracted it themselves
034they knew they couldn't pass the bond to do it and they took the cost from 8 million down to four and um they hired independent companies to build it they hired but a lot of what they did and they instead of taking a year or two to build it took them four but they still have it's an again it it's it's exactly well it's interesting it's exactly some of the process thoughts I think we've discussed around here is like can we do this different and do it stage and it was that example I they said we there was no way there was no way we had to C but they basically combined a lease purchase through their local LEC County State Bank and did it with uh Capital outlay dollars as they could and and
035and and built it as they had the money and by doing that they just saved themselves a ton of money doing it and we're still be able to build a beautiful great big facility so um how long did that take them that four four years almost I think it was about four almost five years they still they were still like don't walk on the gym floor they just put it in but they've been working on it for four years so anyway I we walked into that and I was like wow like how did you not bond this like like any especially in a rural District where there's no major industry that's in either your tax base um anyway I want to share that because I those are all things I I think that's relevant to
036what we saw with phenomenal superintendent that leading in my Wier sorry I don't remember his name super nice guy but uh I also found interesting he you followed his path of the superintendent he's from Southeast Kansas but yeah he went to lak in first to teach and then came back to Lebec County to to teach for he got a job then he went back to out west I think to Stafford to be a principal then came back East to be a principal then he went back out west again somewhere around Stafford to be a superintendent so he could come back East um and it was just a reiteration of we can sometimes be a training ground um but he'd been there 14 years had lot of experience and so anyway I I know that's not
037all you know it's it's apples and oranges the times of how Compares but to see other districts doing some of these things and we'll walk through and talk to those kids and that investment in Career Tech Ed is paying huge dividends for that district and you know we talk about what would we do with more space and what could we do with that system I I am thoroughly convinced this is this is tremendously valuable to those kids and those kids um and and that's the Home Project like building those homes is invaluable U and you're adding to tax base it's it's all the things that you want they had them sold before they build yeah uh no um The District's financing them the basically District's buying the materials is kind of I think they have
038a grant too there's some grants out there through the Commerce to help them kind of self Finance materials but the the materials were 130,000 and they basically charge a buck of they're trying to get a buck of square foot out of their out of their building think rers mostly F but anything after expenses because they know you can't go build a house in a little town wasn't alamont that was where the high school is I can't remember it was a little tiny town I said uh but and you can't you know what it would cost you to then put the full time and labor into it and building a home oh it' be double that yes exactly for 150,000 I said it's it's a size similar to many art communities and it's the first new
039home that been built there and you can just see they took a lot that was just covered in trees and junk and push the house in and now it's beautiful now the biggest problem is going to be everybody else's tax is going to go ni half so anyway I just I wanted to share that because uh uh I I think uh they're finding some Creative Solutions on doing some things I gave me hope that as we talk about things uh what we're talking about is important the staging the gym without a bond impressive it was impressive they finished the concrete themselves they all electric gold sheetrock basically even in the building uh there's a two there's two cement block walls but the cross construction put up the red Iron I think they're and the and
040the tin and the two cement walls and their staff and through some you know local subcontractors did everything else you know except like the basketball court you know there are certain things you're like I put up the you know all the again got creative and said we're going to find a way to do this cool thanks let me share that yeah appreciate it thank you okay anyone else have any reports before we move on okay we will move to discussion items then item a is cell phones and screen time yeah I just wanted to bring that back up i' I've been trying to gather a lot of research and I uploaded a couple things into the into the uh board packet but uh wakanda Lakeside they went to it this year they're one you know
041so as Republic County and I talked with their principal pretty extensively there when I was for the basketball games and then shared some of that so I wanted to share a little bit of that with you guys um and some of the takeaways that I got from him was that basically not looking at it as punishment because we think kids are abusing the privilege but looking at it as look how much this is a distraction to your to your instruction and trying to look at it from I guess just different way to to have that conversation so to speak so on that thing I shared with you some some just some you know interesting data that um you know and the the numbers will be up now from where they're at this is what he
042had you know we're talking four and a half to five hours a day on screen time that's probably not even including television at home um a lot of researcher talk to you also about even from a young age how much that um screen time can affect um communication skills just basic problem solving skills um so I wanted to bring to you some data and I'll continue to do that um you know if this is a direction that I know I've had conversations with Mr Myers too and and we both even more from him in his capacity see how benef how much we could our kids could benefit by some of that um most people around have gone to the honor bags like we had talked about um and I even had I one students um
043I guess testimony on on some of that so I'll continue to GA gather more and share more but I wanted to to bring that back up I think this is I My Vibe I get from the board is we want to continue this conversation and so it needs to stay relevant and if it's a direction that we want to go for next school year you know we need to start planning ahead and having some Community meetings with some parents and kind of inform them of kind of what that all looks like I guess so to speak so what we waiting on what's that like I I what's keeping us from pursuing this and starting to engage the community now I don't have any reason not to nothing okay we've already started planting the seeds with
044the kids and they I think they already kind of know let's start planting SE I agree and let's start planting seeds with the community and parents I think we get the message to them the the lighter the blow is going to be yep I and I think everything you put together here is a phenomenal start to uh we're going to get other questions but I think this is a great start yeah I was going it's probably not really feasible but I was thinking the way to soft launch it at the end of this year that probably is a little bit of a stretch and then and in that way you're rip the bandaid off this year and then next year but that's we're already at March we're two months away from still it's still a
045good idea yeah a thought that I had of like there are schools that have done like no Tech Tuesdays and things like that but I think with with the um restriction that's going to be necessary to get rid of the cell phones with the bags is and the bags are by no means um not able to be circumvented but again like I mentioned the last time if you have your cell phone out and the honor bag policies in place you have made a very conscious decision that you are violating it's not like just checking real quick and they can't keep their hands on so what little conversation I think Superior also has the Yonder bags maybe and uh so I we have some nieces and nephews up there and my daughter has a friend from
046up there and a lot of the message I get from this they use the Y bags but some of them say I just take my phone on my car I don't want to mess with it right yeah and and that's some of the because I've talked with Mr Travis of beloy I've talked with Republic County went to Y bags this year as well um and you'll hear that a lot and Mr long the principal wakanda said that too is you know after about six months kids are just like it's not even worth bringing it out of my vehicle um how would we structure it would you they don't be allowed to have their phone all day long that's correct correct correct the the you know we've Loosely looked at how the logistics of it would
047look it may be something like out in front of the hall there or in front of the office uh just from talk to some other the principles that have done this you know they their initial mess up was okay at the end of the day you have to come get your magnet and well when you have 170 kids all coming at once in a line it's a it's a problem so there are stations to and then you would have a table that you pick up on bag 37 put it in there and you know you keep it on you all day you just can't keep on your car yeah yeah most of them it whether it's getting a first hour you check out your bags put your phone away you know and it's I mean
048I having the bag I think is an extra layer of protection because you could just tell them not to but how many of us just second nature I'm thinking about you just pulled out to check it and then it takes away that um every kid that testimony is great example but um whether it's the kids the parents teachers everybody else said you know after that initial shock that it's been the best decision they've made from from a learning standpoint just from a communication standpoint um um and and I've talked with Mr Myers a little bit about it too different ways that when there is that unstructured time kids get done eating you know what are some things that we could put in place to help kids spend time together you know decks of cards and
049Checker boards and what I've heard I've heard it's just increases the social capacity of the kids by and what about the kids that go to their vehicles multiple times a day at the high school you it's not very that I escort out there escorted some there yeah well I think it becomes a culture thing do over time you knowbody catches on well nobody else checking their phone I mean yeah yeah so my thoughts are let's let's uh identify a list of organizations in the community obviously like Grizzly Pride our site councils uh you know a few other parental organizations and folks to start reaching out to what that looks like I like the idea of possibly the last two weeks Yeah couple days couple days I like I like a day a week if we
050can if we can get them in and up you know and again that that that bag thing is more of that visual than because the other thing that we've talked about as a staff is you don't want to create a culture issue where you have a teacher like we got five minutes you can have your phun it's fineos because then that's just a policy violation on their part I talked to the principal who they went to this and they didn't go to bags and he they spent like a third of his day with a cell phone wand and all he does is run wand kid like well and and again it's it's not a punishment it's just a focus on we're doing this to benefit your education and to benefit your social life and everything
051else so it Bobby ask the bags are roughly $30 a piece okay I assume this is a this is a prek through 12 that's what I was going to ask how much are you seeing at the elementary school with that few students who phones on but I've had one cell phone violation this entire year not to take it I think the conversation at my level needs to be how much time are we um thinking that elementary students should spend on an iPad schol and that is a concern um I was recently shared some information some data from occupational and speech therapists and the detrimental effects on the brain with iPad screen time at a young age is so scary well that Department of Education report that task that task force was yeah Illuminating on what
052it does to young kids as well there's there's a lot of research that would say and Miss K we we've shared some conversation with this too but even those that you think are educational programs big picture are still doing more harm than good because of that screen time and it's a lot with the speech language and then just the basic problem solving and and so we'll get to a little bit later but when we started talking about we're looking at math curriculum I just wonder if this is the time to um well you know we we have kind of had transferred to the E versions the digital versions on the iPads they don't have to carry a book around um you know that kind of thing and it's a little cheaper but it's not that
053much cheaper and our um teachers have opted if approved to go to a uh classroom set of books so um you they they don't have their iPads out during class they have a book that they check out each day and then if they need their book for homework they still have the E version on their iPad but during class you don't have to manage the iPads because you don't know looking at the iPad are they really working on this or are they doing whatever so uh that gets them off the screen it takes care management issues can we comb I like the idea of combining this into not just a cell phone policy but just yes 100% And and that's why that's why I titled the way we did and we need to do our
054part as the instructional entity the schools to say we're going to figure out when is there unnecessary screen time that we can eliminate putting text if if we don't need to put someone on the screen for a textbook that's a great we can do a better job of that one to one still how we use it we're learning more about man it it forces the teachers to plan accordingly don't plan your class for 37 minutes when it's a 45 minute class period um that's where problems are I I appre would you put together but it needs to be a little bit more comprehensive visual I have a I have a lot more I just put all in there yeah I think but some kind of a one pager with a picture of a Yonder bag
055and their testimonials from K kids and principles and I think we also plan to be spelling out exactly what in policy at some point we will adopt um that this and and expand that Q&A thing um just in terms of what what students are they student what question students asking what question the parents asking about um how does this work when can they open them up can they go to their vehicle just the things like that that I I see the problem or the challenge being more with the parents that don't like it and calling the office 15 times a day saying I need to talk to so so I need to talk to so so I need to talk to so see wouldn't it be easier if I could just text them do you
056really need to talk to them students still have emails on their their devices I mean but I can't tell a parent in the office no you can't talk to your kid so it it's going to be well and we know there's GNA be living those parents that that's right there which is sad but yeah make a list already may I mean I appreciate that you're right but at some point it does become we'll allow communicate you have email but we allow a communication lunch between passing periods or we have to Define when we allow those call backs unless you got to manage what an emergency is I'm sorry for that and we Mr Myers and I we have a pretty extensive folder of documentation that we've gathered so um we can share more of that
057with you guys but and we'll tweak in a little bit to us and like I said from our The Advisory Council we've had a lot of those same conversations and looked at some of that research and and and um so we got that student small representation I get that student voice and so we can just continue down those but we had talked about that in a while and and I thought if this is direction that we all feel comfortable moving forward with for next fall we've got to start having those that communication with the community and our parents and everybody else um sooner rather than later so uh what about the the smart watches now has any of them been a problem yet uh some but the schools that I've talked to smart watches are
058the same as a phone they go basically you can text from RE and and and the the other layer of that too not not to say that it will be for us but for a lot of districts is it's the adults in general parents and staff also need to understand that they got to leave by example too right in the classroom so I mean we I don't if we have to give the staff bags but keep your phone put away leave by exam so but yep we start moving I'm not hearing any to imp anything contrary to that so I would say yeah it's proceed please we will continue to gather and and put some stuff critical we we share this with some parent groups and soft release of our intentions and and even even
059if the first night um you know an open house type conversation of just this is a Q&A we'll gather questions and and um and again the message is not we're punishing kids for having cell phones it's we're trying to strengthen our instructional time and our learning um process so so talked about the are you have us in the agenda later for the books yeah it's curriculum's on here later yeah y okay um we'll move on to B act work keys yeah this just a followup too you guys are kind of asking about the work keys versus at actu you know how do we go about navigating that I I reached out and got information from about 10 different schools um and just kind of working with Mr Myers and Mrs castrip just kind of what
060I recommend is we all right currently we our current practice is we have all freshman take the preac current practices we have all Juniors take the work keys and the ACT you know the conversation we had was is the act really necessary for all kids is the work keys really necessary for all kids um knowing that that act is more or less a scholarship test than it is a college insance um thing right now um there's no reason there's no need for a policy but I think a good practice is in place and and we kind of feel like that that preac for all the freshmen because you get good feedback on how to prep for that um a lot of what I gathered from districts that are kind of I'll tell you this is
061a conversation that majority of the districts are having around the state how do you navigate that but the work keys um couple things that really resonate with me is the work keys truly is something that everybody could benefit from because it's gonna help it's talking about your your your work abilities um especially for those that are unsure where they're going to go um but then a lot of them I think we need to have the work keys is um maybe have all the Juniors take that and then those that want to take the ACT um can you know it's something that that we'll talk more about do we need to have parents opt out do we just have let the kid opt out so we're still G to figure out a little bit but moving
062forward I don't think there's any reason that every kid should take both is there any recommendations by I know pay for it but do they there any data that shows the value you do take it you got a hire propensity to seek postsecondary education I I've never seen that that's a consideration and I just I don't know if it exists I just know they pay for it I have not seen that I asked that there on my leadership for and basically they said the same thing Mr everybody's kind of thinking about it right now the best approach is you're trying to maximize their time in the class because you know the kids are tested to dep so what are you getting out of to leave them out leave him behind later on they make that
063decision then six months later like oh wait I wish I taken advantage of that you know and we you're G to have some of that buyer remorse but you hope to minimize that yeah well it can flip the other way too where you know what was my value in taking work keys when I got a 36 on the ACT I could have been in class those for hours you know I'm going to be a good employee part of it we we don't and nowhere is this suggesting that we're trying to to alter data just for the speak of for the sake of altering data but you know you might hear a trend of well in the last 10 years the ACT scores have really dropped in the state of Kansas well up until the state
064started paying for it those non- colge bound kids weren't taking it and so now they are and and you know there's going to be some of the students that you know like Mr Meer said you know I don't want to be in here I'm I'm missing shop class not to single them out but so I'm going to burn through this quick well it's not a good representation of what our educational system is about they don't really care they just want to get through it and then our data is going to show that is is work keys a substitute for like I don't the technical colleges require it don't require and they've removed now they're removing starting year the science portion of the act so it's math reading and English only and the science and reasoning
065was my best one no kid that's I'm saying that's but I mean as as Juniors though like if they're looking how many of them don't really know which way they want to go well I feel like if you're an jior youve got like well I I'm going I'm gonna go to a fouryear college I want to go do this or you're going to be like I would rather go enter the workforce and you know make money right away I feel like by the time you're a junior you're 80% made up your mind where you're how you're wanting to go after high and unfortunately and I we we're going in the right direction on that right now with our individual plans of study hiring an individual plan study uh dedicated person with Miss eart having a
066counselor back for the third year when we went five years in a row with a different counselor they didn't know right you know and only one one of one of those years was half time and two of those years were non-licensed counselors I mean we didn't have a great you know guidance program so there any scholarship pieces to I but even then until you get to the higher levels I just don't know I I don't think Hanson requires ACT Testing not one not for so again in no way am I wanting this to be a policy but I think we need to have a strong practice in place and so when we get all this stuff kind of ironed out we'll bring it back to you hopefully next month um if not obviously before next
067year but um I do think that there's no need for our our kids to take both every both the work keys and act so we'll work on that I just that was from just a followup from last time in that conversation so okay uh employee recognition so that time to kind of have that conversation kind of where you guys are at start planning for the end of the year stuff again um I don't remember what it was last year the last it was after the day after the last day of school Lun our last day of school is on a th it's on Thursday this year and then the teachers teachers be so that might be a little bit better we we've had where they've had to come back on a Monday and some of
068the other employees it's harder for them to come back other suggestions times and format I like I like what it is it's been pretty well received was it it is very well yeah and I have the most fun that is the most fun thing I do all year is plan that so just let you know what kind of the same thing and be the 16th or the it would be Friday the like the 16th um it would be Friday the 16th yes well Friday the 13th we got had a theme with that that thank you I think that's it calendar stuff so right student supplies um you know we talked on this a little bit last year and then we kind of for lack a better we just kind of ran out of time and
069stuff but I'm going to continue to work with Miss Keller because this is this is more it affects both schools but more so at the elementary about um and I went back and looked and and there are somewhat rough numbers but you know we've kind of paid for all the supplies for the students it's it's about $20,000 that that we spending on supplies um I know last year and we'll look at it as we're getting closer this year but last year there was a lot of what M Keller's predecessor said that felt like teachers were just opening a new box it was a new semester kind of thing and not really necessary so we'll look at what is truly necessary we have a document that that we looked at last year and we'll do a
070better job of getting feedback from teachers on I'd like to put together a supply list minimal and if they want specific hey I want this to be cray of crowns or whatever that's fine those families that want to go out and do it I'm I'm okay with us still purchasing some my thought was you know maybe it's the the old gym um couple days in the summer I could sit down there for want to and those families that want to take advantage of that can do their shopping there but open the door for those families that want to buy their own school supplies to go do that hopefully we can cut down on I mean that's you know it's a it's a great luxury our families have had but don't have to pay for any
071supplies to start the school year there's most districts have quite a bit of um I want to call them it enrollment fees but class fees and everything else that um Book Rentals yeah you know book cost technology fees different things like that not saying that we need to to what constit majority I mean what conut majority of the cost is it just is there any one thing that you're like oh we can kleenexes first we're Supply why is it that the first thing I think of in kleenexes or you know I'm saying I'm saying is there that one thing we start on and go okay we're going to supply all the pens and papers and pencils and the kids probably don't want to use the kleenexes we provide because it's like sandpaper we don't buy
072this I'm asking the question like are there are like we we don't there is something you are required to bring and this is what it is one or two three or four boxes of what dud when I was in school yeah yeah that's what I'm saying as you look at your list okay that's maybe 20 30% of our cost okay well that's a c I don't know included in that $2,000 oh we buy notebooks different classes have different things so like the fifth grade they do specific notebooks for like journaling um and so does middle school I think does we did some of that last year some journaling notebooks uh a lot of pre-sharpened pencils and uh crayons and I know a lot of crayons and I think they do at semester just toss boxes
073the teachers and grab a new boxes what that figure for student 20,000 divid 350 is7 and last year that's about talking whole District anything in two years well that's I just seems really High pencils and crayons pencils crayons they they buy uh pencil bags uh erasers um and and then but that's the other part of it that I would guess I taking this to to staff to get more feedback on it what is truly needed and what is excess because I would I would argue that there's been excess just because if the teacher just going to keep asking say we need all this is it really necessary or not well we buy a lot of you know the art supply for the art supply cubby at the elementary there's uh uh colored Cofe paper there's
074colored construction paper there's the little paints there's lots of watercolor markers buy anyway what's be buying anyway like construction paper yeah I mean that the school parents don't buy any of that that stuff we would still buy some of the construction paper yeah but that's included in that what's keeping it from the like instead of like us supplying it every year it's weird to think of it like a loner so every student you walk in well here's the box of crayons they might be half used or whatnot but it it's a box of crayons that might get used a fourth of the time and then that you I realize crayons get broken all the time because you know kid sit there problem because how are the how are this how is it distributed right now
075yeah well my knowledge everything came last spring and the teachers were delivered it to them before the end of school so that way beginning of school year every student had their supplies so they took they got the supplies at the the got the supplies at the end of the year the teachers got the supplies at the end in the past in the summer when boxes they lost other places that I've been it's what you're talking about the the district if the district had committed to buying supplies for kids that needed them you did that but then you basically kind of had a little store for whatever parents wanted to come in in the summer you know couple weeks before school or whatever and kind of shop for the things that they need and if you
076know if you had the parents that were like we're we're fine we're going to Walmart to get our own stuff then they don't they don't do that and so and then you just kind of carry those supplies over from year to year rather than distribute all of it out there and say you got to use it all up this year and you know what I'm saying we haven't bought in a couple years because we were doing that where every kid when they came in you got two three ring binders with paper pencil bags pencils pens highlighters everything just found them laying all over the place right and how many of those how many of those families also probably went and chopped for school supplies CU they didn't even know that they had that stuff and
077this is in no means is this trying to take away with those people that that count on those free supplies I just know that there's some that that are able to and I remember last year being new to the district my kids looked forward to that and then we're told now that you can't get your own you're gonna get him from the school I think there's families that that enjoy that or want to those that can't by all means come do the shopping or if you want us to put stuff together we can still provide that whole aspect of there's some effort involved at least also the teachers would have access to it right and that's the other piece you know if you or if you have parents that that didn't that didn't even come
078in for it you still you have some extra backpacks packed with supplies that you hand to the kid on the first day or whatever you'll know what they need don't need I mean it sounds like well it just sounds like we could probably be more efficient in the way we're doing it and in the past we've used title Monies to pay for these I don't think anybody's interested in in stopping providing supplies but if we can find a way to do that more efficiently and cost effectively and right my son us his notebook they only last one year he uses his sisters from the year before but I'll continue to work with uh Miss Keller about getting those teachers to identify what are TR what's truly needed for your class and then we'll put that
079list together I just throw out arbitrary number now but we want to make sure that every grade level that your supply list shouldn't be over x amount of dollars kind of thing well the alternative to this is we continue to supply free supplies but we change our enrollment fees and use it as a supplement to replace it I'm saying not the same as we to do but I'm saying we have reduced all of we you that all to zero um and there are ways to do this differently if we still want to if we feel like we can still better use our parents dlers as well as ours by substituting in that direction it is odd there aren't ver with at charge zero for enrollment fees and zero for school supplies like that's just that
080we are a we're pretty rare diamond in yeah which great I'm glad we've been able to do it but it doesn't mean sure and then like I said in no means am I trying to take away for those that that really count on that but but there's ways to do it more yep right so we'll we'll continue to work on a more of a true supply list I'd like to get out you know by the end of this by the end of the school year whatever early so that they can start looking if they want to go out do their shopping they know kind of what to expect for their kids so okay all right uh math credits you or Sam want to take that one I don't know if everybody got a chance to
081read that or not uh basically we're the only School anywhere that we can think of or find that anybody would respond that requires four credits um the uh obviously there's nothing above or wrong with going above the state standard of three credits and we've had four credits for a long time um the rationals are in there as far as why to or why not to I have a feeling that based on you know you mentioned the student Pathways going into graduation or postgraduation I think that we would the majority of our kids would end up with three and a half credits instead of four credits because they would either take that contemporary math if they're going the tech trade school Community College route or they would take the college algebra first semester and not the
082college statistics second semester um because most of the programs require one but not both and that's where I get the push back where I don't want to take stats I um I got my col I got what I need for college and I want to take senior Math that is way below where my capabilities are so that whole senior slide issue really just it's it's not a Rock Hills thing I understand that but again I go back to what I shared earlier like there's so much potential for us to put things in front of them that do matter to keep them engaged that's the Gap that IE I feel like because we have that we're missing that that yeah it's you're just putting that requirement on them isn't isn't fixing that in fact it's making
083it worse steps with our work based learning programs um those have really fulfilled some of the days of those kids that um are now working at the co-op or at boner welding or some place like that or the CNA that otherwise would have been sitting in an art class just you know not nothing is art that they just had no interest but it was the only thing on the schedule they were interested in so yeah I don't I don't think that requiring it because yeah we'd be down to two required classes for graduation your senior year but you know if we have programs to offer the kids or um you know whether that's CTE work based learning whatever um and that's the demographic we're looking at more than the fouryear college route kids they're going
084to they're going to take what they need because it's going to they'll probably also take the human growth development or or online college CL yeah an online college class of some sort because they're trying to knock out as many as possible before they hit their fresh year in college so what you're looking for is changing from our policy as for units down to three which is what the state requires I'm not looking for that I was asked to provide information I asked him to provide the information so the request came from me for the information I did that I just wanted it the board's consideration on it and and like will act however the board chooses to act I put in that report I agree with the report I mean it's how is that a
085our accelerated or accelerated math students but that's been kind of a doesn't change anything doesn't change anything unless they decide they want to hit senior slide instead of taking um calculus and trigonometry they decide they want to take nothing that's on them and their parents that just be a poor choice I would say we could try to councel them up on it but yeah but they don't have to take that anyway no I mean just because we have a fourth math they've got to find a they can there's an easier route they if if D said I want my kid that's supposed to be in calculus taking senior Math instead that would be something they probably did in e8th grade I have a tough time arguing with those parents because this is my kid and
086his education and I don't really have a lot of leg to stand on there so I cave more often than I would like because I we we had discussions earlier about using certain for CTE programs to use as like quarter half credits for for math but I I take it we're not really be able to do that at this point right we haven't no yeah and I don't see that that's A Better Way Forward okay because a kid could end up taking accounting as a junior along with his Algebra 2 or as a sophomore along with and be done before his junior year and have four yeah or three I'm fine I just yeah and I don't think anything needs to happen here as far as action wise because where this is located is in
087the handbook um which will be acted on later might I might be mistaken on that but that's where the change would be reflected yeah that I think the only I agree there probably doesn't have to be official action I think there needs to be kind of a consensus on what we want to do because I I know you're probably now in the process of looking at schedules for next year and you know enrolling what kids are going to be taken and there needs to be some planning involved in that and what and what that's going to look like for kids in the next two or three years whatever year they're in and so I would say he probably needs some guidance to take back um but the official if we decide to make the change
088that would the change would come when we approve the handbook for next year but we would plan accordingly through preo so that's that's where I'm I seek your input on that from the board it's only it's only ensuring that we're filling in the schedule that back fill that's really probably my only concern other than that I don't I don't you mean as far as you're filling your days yeah I mean again in that context of well that's that that's a staffing issue issue I do think yeah and I do think it's important that you know that we still want to set our kids up for a postsecondary office option all the data says the more you get into postsecondary the the more successful and happier life and more income and all the things the healthier
089everything so being cautious that we don't set the schedule up so at Junior basically I'm done and I've got this year where I you know I got a couple hours a day I'm engaged and the rest of it I'm not but but requiring them to fill that with like a remedial level math at senior year is not actually doing them any good to prepare them for that next year in college that year where they don't do any math to then go to attempt to go to a postsecondary because what concerns me and that that's where the counseling of the parents student would come in saying you take a you take a break now you're in big trouble going into next year you haven't math for a year it's the difference between a requirement they're still
090going to have the ability to take those no yeah that's that's the concern because you take that year off of math and you're not going back uh and it's going to hurt your postsecondary success well that's I mean I want to speak that's the drawback that's the drawback that's that's that's the kind of the main negative that I could see in it too it would be interesting get data from some of our neighbors that are at three is what are your see what does it look like how many seniors are taking advantage of because we're still have the opportunity to it's just not you know that requirement because I would I would guess that there's a pretty high number of students that are College Bound that are still going to know that if you don't
091use it you lose it so I'm going to take something well and I I Echo what Sam said about just counselor turnover and having more stability on our staff because as a parent you don't know as you start making these decisions and schedules as your eighth grade and freshman year and start deciding you accelerate or not that has consequences three and four years out that we probably didn't consider or think about that I don't know that we're much better prepared now in hindsight than we are at the beginning and okay how did we stage this out and and our Math teachers would tell you that they would be in favor of keeping for because math is problem solving and no matter what you're going into you got a problem solve um I'm not saying one
092way or another I'm just that that's that's that's kind of where I'm at like is there a way to do a yeah I know it's senior Math is is there to accomplish it's to fill a hole but uh that problem Sol is there a way to present that in a different capacity that still meets the qualification for those that need it I don't and I don't know the answer to that I L love that context you shared past about their their Vocational Technical Training methods around mathematics that we could find a way to give credit to well that contemporary math is the the biggest new push where that would meet those requirements for the kids in those programs what's that the the state has um made it more uniform with the colleges uh title and
093um um accept for their introductory Mathway program math pathway programs you know some schools called it contemporary math some called it essential math some called it this whatever and so they've said we will colleges across the state will accept contemporary math intermediate algebra or college algebra now if you're going into a lot of the programs nck contemporary math cover covers it for you but if you're going to Haze into nursing you need college alra and if you're going into this but it it's something that we could offer here we actually and I think I put that in there we or the Contemporary math book to see is this something we're kind of teaching our seniors anyway and it would be seamless to uh put into for them that would were letting them kill two birds
094with one stone but again that's a semester course that's why I said I think we'll get a lot of kids that get three and a half credits because anybody going no yeah anybody going Community College pet college or anything like that is going to want that contemporary math because why not take it here when you have a smaller class you know more dedicated time um the the kids that may take n none are either somebody that's Senor sliding hard and they got their parents convinced or I'm going to go work at KES I know I'm going to work at KS I know need a fourth math and so that that's kind of that's why I said I believe the trend will show and I'm predicting that we see a lot of three and a half
095credits instead of four thank you like I see colge the only time it really really kind of needed is for a bachelor's degree like especially at 4 Tech where we're going if you want a construction management bachelor's degree you have to take College a bre you can take the Contemporary math for your Associates but if you want to go on which you would have to transfer to Hayes and then you taking it's just and if you look at some of the research from the state colleges too the biggest hurdle with kids getting through is college algebra so they're also trying to put those other things in place so it's good conversation I mean just like the the ACT conversation there's there's always going to be that potential people that you miss that that slide through
096the cracks but try to reach everybody the best we can I'm not against it I'd be curious what other are doing to that for that postc Su how you feel extra math unless you take it through a through Junior College well I honestly appreciate the graduation requirement discussion it's been a long time since I've remember even talking about what our graduation requirements were and and how we fit with state requirements versus our own District requirements because they have yeah well and I like like you said I I asked Sam I said well what how many schools around us are are doing this and basically he's telling me it's pretty much just us and I'm it's I'm like it's fine to have higher standards and higher requirements than districts around us but only if it's actually
097serving a positive purpose for our kids if it's just if all it's doing is forcing seniors into some classes that are way below where they're actually at that's that's not actually doing our kids a Ser positive service and it actually hurts our lower level math kids because you got so many kids we have them in a smaller class for a reason and then all of a sudden you put in a calculus kid because they don't want to take calculus and the disruptor in the CL exactly so that's what's that decision need to be made by it's a handbook decision a handbook decision but if we could make it sooner than later um because we're doing pre-enrollment right now um would be helpful i j out a month just hear what other districts did when you
098Vis with District did they change it recently or has it always been that way ever ever had what is it that you're needing to know next month I don't need anything I don't anybody else I I I hear a previous superintendent many years ago wanting this and that ech goes in my ear and it's the postsecondary concern and and I exactly and I think I I had a conversation with Sam about this and I and I my point was I think historically high schools have seen themselves as preparing students for four-year universities that's when we all went through school that's that's what it was um that's I don't know that that's what necessarily our end goal is anymore not for every kid it sure isn't for some of them sure um but I think we're
099we're wanting to prepare them for some other tracks here too and that that fouryear requirement of math isn't necessary that's that's serving one segment of the student population but not C and I feel like that was never presented I feel like that that track of University students are probably going to along with their parents and the counselor are still going to choose those four years of math that's going to prepare them for that that's that's my feeling that's that's I don't there's no guarantee um so in my mind it it's not necessarily our job to require it anymore but to encourage it if that's the track that they're taking that's my feeling on it I understand I certainly understand the reasoning for it suggest and if you know if there was anything I mean I
100would Echo that that if we're doing if we trying to focus on individual kids and doing what's best for every kid the remedial math class will DET be more of a detriment in a lot of ways not just from the the class atmosphere but also taking a lower level math class you're actually going to lose some of those math skills versus taking that option away from those postc those postsecondary people is hey you probably need to but it's not going to be a step down it's going to continue to be a step up well at that time too we had the discussions the Readiness of I'm pretty sure remember that discussion we implemented it was the ready the availability of the online and dual credit system that we didn't have third the time so you
101earn college algebra if you did you could still do that um we didn't have that availability at that time so that I think that was also a TCH too because you were this give you a much better chance because you weren't going to get it with us you're gonna have to go on and get well we do have two students this year that are taking contemporary maap through either Cloud County or uh for days North Central because we couldn't offer it because we had senior Math and our teacher was busy that out if we make it three and a half you said half was the temporary to be honest with you it just it turn into a scheduling nightmare because second semester we're going to be looking for where that person's going to go I
102don't think you're ready to implement that yet but it's probably where we're headed is what what you were saying with that process even if you require three you're still most of your kids get three and a half regard if we don't require it alls Path college uh or Community College whatever they're going to do it because it's easier here better here than it is to wait until you go to Cloud County or for Hayes but we're not set up to offer that just yet as well not just yet but I think we could be by we could we could be by next year and the reason for that I did not put that in there is because um the board of regions is looking at changing back to their for former requirements for being able
103to teach concurrent classes it used to be where you had to have any Masters and a certain number of courses in that content area uh in 2022 they changed it to you have to have a master in that content area so like Mrs Cox her her uh um Masters is in information technology so she wouldn't be able to teach those college classes anymore which is ridiculous so they were losing all kinds of and Mrs stcker has a masters but not in math and so this would open it up for her to be able to teach that again again instead of that senior map so as long as Board of region continues on that path yes it would make it available for us what would be the downside [Music] of SCH nothing it be we would
104we would add contemporary math for semester one and then she would do some kind of a business math semester two but she may have a lot of those kids that opt out of it because they only took it because they needed it for college credit and they don't need businessmen for high school credit you know so they could take another welding class or you know work based learning or something like that there again that's where we end up all those kids with three and a half credits instead of four now could there be like a right took like a personal finance CL all of our students that's that is a graduation requirement that's a state requirement that freshman no that he is a SC okay okay that's no it's a one semester of U personal
105finance one semester business Communications the one semester they're doing their resumes and interview skills and all those type things then the next semester they're learning credit cards and car loans and all that kind of stuff anything else on that is it kind of a consensus then that we can as he starts his are we ready for that or not I'm backing needs to be a requirement kids going choose that path and they better have their ducks in a row and take the classes they need [Music] Justus class It prepares you forus I mean there's kids that if they didn't take calculus or they slued it off they were very ill prepared for when they took calculus we just have to be diligent from Mr Meer and and from Mrs cast's perspective is very we gotta
106be hardcore on those families to say listen like this is a strong recommendation that don't let your kid follow you and to set your kid up for Success they need to continue something end up paying for algebra twice because they FL the first time they bres right okay okay all right well I I think maybe you have some guidance on that it's not not official but okay and that you know this at the end of it tell you next board meeting from pre-enrollment what our next year senior class looks like how many of them are taking a math credit for their senior year if it's not required okay all right um okay um math curriculum yeah I just wanted this kind of folds up with with one that um we're getting ready to order those
107math that math curriculum for the Junior Senior High and I just wanted to let the board know that like we already talked about that we are doing our due diligence and trying to eliminate that unnecessary screen time and so as Sam already mentioned that we're the the the what we're g planning on purchasing is harded physical textbooks in the classroom eliminating that screen time now if they need to use it at home to finish up whatever they'll they'll have to access it that way but um we're continuing to look at ways that we can minimize that screen time so that that was the biggest reason I had it on there and it kind of joined in with our 5A discussion but you said there was a slight cost increase what SL 5% 10% I the
108two the price difference for the whole 612 was a difference of about two grand does that sound about right 2500 uh actually it's less than that because it was only the 9 10 11 that has that consumables I think we're only talking like $ 800 or $100 difference or something that's right I was thinking whole building yeah I just remember went one to one it was like there's this cost savings and and I also know we've been little the curriculum hasn't kept up with the technology ter no at all it's basically a Kindle yeah and that's not when we started going to digital textbooks we thought we would be much more enhanced than thatal textbooks I I work out of one every day and I am tired of it I want I love that Con
109in the classroom well save us money we don't need to buy you know and they don't get to wear and tear get thrown back the all that like the idea of our kids having books again I like that idea also well that's that that's going to be the kind of the continued push each year with some of our curriculum is we need to just get back to learning from physical books and not the distraction of the screen so um just kind of wanted to make that part of our open discussion that we're doing our part to eliminate C screen times all right I say that all the time about math with Chase okay um elementary teacher assignments yeah I just put that on there we kind of talked a lot about that last board meeting
110and kind of what uh Miss Keller had kind of planned on for um teacher alignments I guess for lack of better words and where we she felt that um teacher student ratio based on all those skills if you guys remember that all the data that she shared with you and so I wanted to bring that back as we're kind of in the middle of this hiring season was there any concerns or I got the consensus last last time that what she kind of proposed you guys all felt pretty comfortable with I just wanted to make sure um as we've had some pretty good applicants that that if for some reason there was a need for extra that want to try to catch them before we before before they went somewhere else but based on what
111she had presented and where she felt things were at correct if I'm wrong were staffed to fit those those needs this going back to meeting I had one teacher that had some concerns and talk with her I feel like those concerns are resolved I believe everybody is pretty happy with the way that things will work next year all right uh facilities yeah it's up it in the folder but I also printed it for you guys sometimes a little bit easier um I guess the first thing that ask you to look at is we need to take a break okay um is that one that I have that just talks about the path to a November election if that is if that's the direction that we're hoping to get to I want you guys to kind
112of see that there's a timeline that we need to make sure we kind of hit some targets if that's even going to be an option right and so um the the first thing that that truly needs to be cited is what's the budget scope like I know that last meeting we kind of set it on well yeah we 10 to 12 million do but I think I'm not asking you to give me exact but we kind of need to have a smaller Bullseye than that um because we need to know that in order to then send that out to construction managers who have so they can start putting their proposals together because then we'll have to do those CMR interviews once they get involved and we get them on on board they're the ones that
113could help us get into the weeds with numbers a lot more and shift this or do this do that um and so I I just I guess I present that to you to to know that I'm not trying to be pushy but at the same time there's a lot of check boxes that we have to hit if we want to stay on that timeline um yeah nice to see in in this format thank you so if you look at that doesn't say when necessarily to what at what point to interview construction managers but that would be that April to to early May um if possible because you know in June you got to start working with them about the final scope and that's where again well how much would it save if we did this
114versus that you know or um some of those things they justed have a better understanding of the industry The Architects have a pretty good general idea on you know like cost per square foot and some of that but um I guess that would be the first thing is where's that where's that and if it's not November 3rd which is the general election date I'm assuming so then there's statutes there there's that you can't be I think it's 60 days from a general election that you can't do it so then that's going to push you into January February um and truly from a from a architecture design and construction the best timeline for them is would be around the the November the fall time because then when it's weather's too bad to really do that's when
115they're going to work together and get nuts and bolts so that when it gets done when the final touches on the design so then when the weather's right May hits they're ready to roll and then I get that I would just asking for that context if we're to do if we would choose to move forward and do this in stages how much money can we safely allocate out of capital Outlet each year so I I I ran that actually just the other day this last year Mill was let's just say roughly $65,000 a mill so about 510 $520,000 is what we bring in capital outlay we pay our custodial maintenance and all those salaries out of that so I took that and then I factored in $440,000 is just a rough estimate on just general
116upkeep throughout the year yeah you don't want to cut yourself sure so taking the salaries and benefits package of custodial maintenance Crews and then the 40,000 allocated it leaves us about 200,000 a year out of that five because it's about 310,000 for salary that's just to sustain what we're currently bringing like that's not dipping into the 2 million have new monies that's just budgeted for like if we had zero and you had make a payment so to speak out of that money coming in we could afford 200 yes 200,000 but that's just that a capital out8 Mills like correct not consider L right but then but then consider too we're okay for a couple years I understand that but we bought buses like five years in a row when those start phasing out like we're
117going to have to start phasing in a bus and a new 56 passenger bus is about $200,000 so it was under 100,000 95,000 and you thought it was a lot then so there was brought up last meeting about we'll just allocate I kind of assumed that it was going to be more than but it's I would say a safe number would be no more than $200,000 like I said and that's allocating 4,000 for just general maintenance things that come up throughout the year that may or may not be higher we so it's about $270,000 for all of our mainten our salary and benefits paid out of capital alley is about $270,000 for year what about the house the district currently owns what what are we going to do with that it's a discussion we need
118to have and figure out what we give for that I know and overall that's kind of a drop in the bucket but it's still 70,000 it and it's it's a discussion that we'll need to have what what our future plan is with that if there is one um yeah I think we need to have some direction I think I think we were kind of in a little bit of a holding pattern on it as long as it was being used a teacher that needs it and that situation will change so it's it's the time to have that discussion I'm also going back to the mil Levy Al appc ation for any kind of project like this like that that we didn't we just in the last four or five years started pulling money out of
119uh Capital outlay Mills instead of L to pay for that and so uh we we used to fund not that long ago fund a good chunk of our um Capital outlay expenditures especially the salaries through lob and not Capital outlay so I guess that's like what's the context there in terms of what we're spending in general and lob funds percentage wise I don't know but I can tell you it's kind of a general practice that a majority of districts pay those salaries out of capital because they can because then it frees up Capital Atley you're a little more limited on your understand the concept I'm just again not having a very clear picture of where our funding trend has taken us in the last five seven years since Co I I I'm still struggling with
120you know where where we're what we're taking in versus what we're putting out I I see what we are allocating I see we're spending um in actual dollars but nothing comparative to where we've been and to help forecast what's going on in the future so that's that's my concern because I do like I I I I want to be convinced that there's not more in that L to do something U more sustainable over long term that's probably my only reservation at this point and so okay let's say this $200,000 a year or 250 or whatever that number is that we say okay we're comfortable allocating that and we're not going to spend anything about that so then at that point okay then how much of this could we piece out and not put in a
121bond but use Capital Outlet to do that with that's the direction I'm kind of think just the bond down to half you know say 6 million and then use the capital outlay and stair step that in cuz that well his presentation on like uh that gy that was that intrigued me where if you you get the shell put up why couldn't we finish out the inside of it over four years I mean there something similar to that and well I was just gonna say and it obviously depends on what the scope of the project ends up being right um what what we're looking at right here you know and I was looking through the the numbers that he had on I don't I mean there's no there's probably no way we're going to get it
122to six million but um everything that's on there if you if you if you didn't finish any of it out I think it's you could you could easily get it closer to 10 you know it's got2 and a half million doll in there for finishing out what what's planned to be finished but you know at this point but so I mean I think you could I think you could build that entire shell for 10 and then do what you're talking about is is stage the rest of it of finishing it out um and that that's not you know I'm not recommending that I'm just saying that's that's kind of where we're at as far as a dollar amount for that kind of space um the the I guess where it's a little bit sticky is
123convincing population to approve a bond for a empty building that's not going to be completely usable for years to come that's the that's the task may have gotten difficult with the Count's news yes I don't know if you want to have that conversation now either but we certainly can well because and when when you talk about even looking at the whole shell concept we we still have a good chunk of that money is fixing the HVAC that is outside of any shell work and that again rough number $4 million for the you know so that that would be on top of any type of shell construction that we would explore so right but that's that's I mean that's figured into this cost right the HVAC and renovation that's that's what I'm saying though is that
124you know I think that's I was echoing that I think yeah and that's why I say I when I say to Wayne I I don't know that we're ever going to get it down to six million if if if it it's just the the HVAC and is is four of it that doesn't $2 million probably isn't going to get us much build even if it's an empty shell but I'm trying to be optimistic I appreciate that I appreciate that but you know it's even if I know I know that as a as a as a board we've kind of the general feeling I think for you know two or three years now has been if we could get in that $10 million range we might be we might be able to you know convince ourselves
125on that that it's it's doable and I think million you still got what 2 and a half million in capital outlay that's not that's not touching the capital outlay at that point so then then you're if you figure that in if you're going to spend all of it then yeah you might be get it down to closer to eight and then you're getting into that I would green cap I wouldn't either I'm just saying that that's you know that's available realize though we're already planned to allocate Capital outlay to renovating the old right but yes exactly but it all has you know if we're talking about doing it in this kind of a process then there there has to be those phases and at some point first off we probably got to decide what what
126is that scope we're going to shoot for and then right after that is what are those phases how much is it per year to do those phases how many years is it before we're done um and I don't I don't know that but and then I know that if it's $200,000 a year it's going to take several years to get that done um but you know the the good news is we we have a facility where our CTE is currently functioning obviously our our plan is to give them new space eventually but they don't have they don't actually have to move it's it's the rest of the building that's got the the HVAC problem so is there any insurance repercussions to having the CTE building I wood shop building connected to the rest of the
127school insurance no but it's one thing that that Sam and I talked about by tearing down and adding on what does the Fire Marshall say on that because when we were looking at the two-pipe thing does that all have to get up to code with sprinklers or anything else because and that would add another layer so I mean that's a it's a good question I don't know about insurance but Fire Marshal wise it might which would probably be an added cost as well I just thought it might affect insurance rates since you know there's higher likelihood of a fire or something no because we're not we're we're one of the few building I mean we're most buildings that are building new or whatnot they're all it's all all together all one so it's already added
128on so it shouldn't the cost will be under the gy you told rumor new construction will be a different cost but I mean it's You're Building onto an old building so that'll make a big difference yeah well that was just the thing that came up in our conversation today was that's not factored in to be no Fire Marshall probably want it sprinkled because it's over 50% construction well that's what I have to see is it 50% or not depending on HVAC wise don't know you're putting rooftop unit on you're not actually you're not tearing into the building anymore like we were planning on open no that's I'm correct it's a it's a different project than what we were talking about before that would touch almost every square foot of the building so it it may
129not but that's just a hope new that would be the only thing that insurance would frown on no um I would assume with a metal frame building you're not going to put a flat roof on it'll insurance would be should have a sloped metal roof on a metal building so yeah they don't like flat but other than that they're very happy with Sam I came in met with Jeff on this today because I still can't get these numbers to you know to add up um based on what I sent you for just square footage based on his number doesn't match this yeah and it's that's been my argument for for a year now what's that it's been my argument for a year is that the math doesn't ma half million the HVAC part that he
130has there is 2.4 million the renovate 712 facility for 2 and A5 million what does that include is that just fixing some ceiling stuff is that Windows window walls it is Windows we need to know what those are so we can take well God if we go this other direction with the freestanding building you take two and a half million off right off the top you know but I I don't have those answers Mr cell said that he was going to arrange a a meeting well coming up but I've never been able to and and part of that too is if we can say this is a hard number that we can't if it's 10 if it's 12 or whatever set that Scope when the CM can help us really squeeze down money as well
131because they understand that more yeah weed 10 million then we could go in there based on what what they numbers are for square footage we can say our shops would be this size we would have three classrooms or four classrooms or two classrooms we could build it based on their square footage of estimates if we just have a number you know it may not be the shop we wanted but it may be bigger than we have and then we have that uh ability to repurpose those but until we get the ability to because right now they you know we just keep getting you know these pictures are not what were in my mind there's your number I and I think I I agree that what it's what I couldn't get past a year ago when
132we switched Architects is that that you know I'm looking to that going I just I don't understand how if it costs this much to do this why can't you also do this for the same amount but um I do think part of that is we've kind of asked him to constantly change and adjust and do some new things and I think if we said yes this is this is what we want to try to do then I think we could probably ask him give us a little more itemized list of what we're getting in each one of these categories rather than just saying renovation what does that include Windows Does it include you know what is all that and I think to go to the community you have to have you have to have that
133more and and there may be some of those things in in a in a list a detailed list that we can say well we don't need that we don't need that that's exactly you know and we I was talking with Jeff we look at like down in the in the total construction the F where it says fixtures Furnitures and equipment like that one half a almost $600,000 what is that we don't probably need a lot of furniture I mean we can reuse but what is it you know that's cost that that's I'm wanting to know what does that $600,000 get so and I think he would be more than willing to give us that more specifically bline line by line if if we know give the L but we can't we can't keep changing the
134pro the the project and asking him to do that that detailed every time because it just takes too long to get back with something does that make sense abely what's our number yeah I mean that especially kind of looking at that that timeline I mean that's that's number one determine the budget scope but then also um then you know and then the the two different the the two different drawings you I kind of went with him from our last meeting was we talked about for lack of better words the phasing one way or the other well option 2A was to complete classrooms was to complete the the 2A the auditorium and not the class complete the new a center or CT a and then but that did not include the shell that's why that's xed
135out the shell of those classrooms right because he was trying to stay at that as close to 12 as he could based on that option 2B was to finish completely the flex Auditorium space and the classrooms and build the shell of this of the a Woods area so kind of looking at not year by year but cost of the phasing of either way to stay at the 126 128 we wouldn't even be able to do the shell of the classrooms if we were to finish the other flip side complete the classrooms you could do the shell for about the same price now that didn't that didn't help us with how much can we get done each year to beyond that but but the Shell's there for us to then budget out correct but but he
136was trying to to stay with that1 Million number and both of them are you know about with contingency and all this stuff the other thing we could pinpoint was the Little Theater renovation and Auditorium space is that in that twoo or in that new Woods metal CTE Auditorium number of 4.9 million or is that up in the renovation number that's that's the big factor for me I don't remember what we ever decided on today but that remodel or whatever of the Little Theater Auditorium space is about a third of the project MH and you know there's a but where's that located in these numbers just based on square footage see anything in here for Sight PRP Get down under considerable amount of dirt work to do to the West yeah that's a consideration I think
137that the development correct me if I'm wrong the the main reason that he's going west is because of the auditorium and the direction that it faces and so if you're going to if you're going to renovate that Auditorium you keep it directed the same wayes you know you're just he's basically just extending understood but I've you know I've visited with Sam and he's saying well wouldn't it make more sense maybe if we went a little bit more Northwest instead where you stay up on the flatter ground and you're not you don't have to move so much dirt to get that um and I mean it's a valid question it's just a matter of how that all ties into the current building if you if you move it you see what I'm saying Sam on that
138if if you turn if if you turn if you turn and go on the northwest say corner you can't have a corner on a round building but um that that changes the orientation of the of that Auditorium if you're going to try to renovate that Auditorium so um one thing that I I mentioned to Jeff and I didn't with you Sam when I had a convers ation was what would be if if we did a renovation on the auditorium what would be the possibility of that being the band room also well we talked about that today um the the question then becomes what happens to the band room um becomes your weight room well but the weight room would be moving out to why would it have to then well because we still are not
139gaining the four locker room we have the weight room that's used as a locker room so even if we move the weight stuff out we still w't have three locker rooms could your could the band room become the locker room could be I think there's going to be a lot more um um cost in filling that in and renovating it especially with those low ceilings and stuff in there I don't know if our stuff would even you know those in there I don't know I don't know these are these are in the weeds I'm just saying it if we're going to if we're going to put money into renovating an auditorium it would be nice if at some point having the band downstairs is going to be an issue oh because of an an accessible
140issue yeah no I don't doubt yeah I don't disagree with that um it would be nice if that room would was no longer required on a daily basis down in the downstairs I I don't know that that overcomes the whole problem because if we have a band room that's downstairs and is an issue we're also going to have the same issue with any student that is ADH or ADH um that has to get to the gym for activ has to get to the locker room has to get to wherever we're still not going to be in compliance moving that one room still leaves us three other here's my here here's my thinking on it though is that if you if you were able to if you were able to move either a locker room or
141a weit room or something keep it in in your building in the band room or wherever wherever it ends up it would be that would open up a space in the current CTE building that could be used for a new CTE program that we don't currently have because it my my my feeling that I shared with Jeff is I think this is great um we know that our community has asked for uh to put an emphasis on CTE programs but what what we are in essence doing is moving the two we already have we haven't created anything new and after especially what Brendan just showed us is going on and another I would like to see if we're going to put this kind of money into a new facility that we add some kind of
142programs to go along so we're not just a metal shop and a wood shop what what else can be added and could that be could those new programs e you know either in new space or could we utilize the space we currently have in the old CTE building for different programs than what are currently there once those programs move out is that that's my thinking on it I don't know how the logistics work out on all that but I I I I would like to see if we invest this kind of money into a into a project that at the end of it it would be nice if we had some things that we don't currently offer students especially in in the in a CTE yeah and by the size of what they have for
143the weights down here there's no reason why you can't use that because that right there is utilizing the current shop where they're housing the wood and we add last which which thing are you looking at down the bottom we also and I I'm sorry I don't know what all has been shared amongst whom at this point but um we talked about initially we talked about that the old CTE building once once we were moved out of that that we redo public restrooms and a concession stand in there um but what happens if we choose not to do that and maybe build a standalone concessions and restroom closer to the field and and that frees up that much more space in that old building to do something else with you know that original plan with that
144was that the existing Woods classroom would be the weight room allowing the boys or the weight room to be a dedicated Junior High boys locker room the current Woods CL or shop would be the multi-purpose room and that's I guess that's my question for you what is it what do what do you use the multi-purpose room for we don't because we don't have one well what would it be used what would it be used for my question yes um for example that could be an area where we're off the gym where there that's where the med balls and the jump ropes and the treadmills or you know at one time we talked making it making it a community accessible before they built this one uh it could be in the year or in the seasons
145when miss Harvey has to take her kids down to the Armory that's a room that's big enough for uh pickle ball or four square or things like that where we can off the gy yeah stay off the gym okay and then we would look at using the uh um the current girls outdoor bathroom we would wall that off from the outside knock out the wall into the concessions and that would be where the official's room would be and then the current boys's bathroom have an interior access so anybody in the multi-purpose room or the weight room would have a restroom in the building without having to go to the main area oh I those are all good discussions but a lot of that is down the road it's in the weeds I know it is
146but you know but it's the first Domino is part of the project well I mean that's you know when you start when you start when you start separating that from the what the rest of this discussion if we if we start talking about can we could we build our own restroom concession stand why couldn't that be more of a community project you know somehow get students involved in it that it seems like you could have a lot of volunteer labor maybe some grant money that kind of thing that then then you you've got you've taken that out of our scope if you could do that but yeah somebody ask five banks and they can all put big sign up there we'll put your picture on you just need a number I I think that's where
147we got to start I mean if we can get there tonight I don't think honestly I don't think go I think 's G to be at the upper upper limit and we're just gonna have to I I and I think 10's gonna really put a strain on it but I mean then again that's you know seven eight of us sitting around the table nine 10 11 of us you know that's not the whole time it's it's hard to say yeah it's real hard it's and it's hard to sit here and say if if you put it to a vote today would would 8 million have any better chance than 12 million I don't honestly know you know you know what cut go with 10 I I don't know I can't answer that I can't answer
148that either Brandon if we go let's say we go 10 we come down and say this is what we're GNA do with 10 and it doesn't pass do we try and run another one 60 days later is that is that kind of what they you would you would you would scale back the project and into what you what you think would be but it goes 60 days later at least is that what we would I think that's a minimum right I just I didn't know if it's like okay well I think you get you try to get feedback um oh you'll get it and yeah we'll get it we'll get it but but but again the elha in the room still is is kind of Echo and build on what Mark said is you know
149if we're going to ask the taxpayers for some money what new can we get out of it what started this discussion years ago was the CTE stuff but then what's been more prevalent lately was we better figure out HB or we're gonna be a lot of trouble I mean if we go back in time before I mean about the time I got on the board and and before and rely on some of you that were involved in that the initial idea was to build a new steam building and I I don't I want to make sure that we don't you know get too far away from that original idea of of trying to offer some new things to kids and trying to take care of some of the needs of your building that you not
150don't currently have um so I want to make sure whatever we do tries to still address those things as best we can it's just that we had to throw in a four4 million wrinkle into that whole plan with the HVAC system so um I mean bottom line is you know what what is the what is the bottom bottom dollar we got to have that's it's that it's it's the $4 million to to basically fix the problem and and move on um I I would like to think that that would be something that the communities would support even if it's you know I know it's still nobody wants more taxes but you know that's that's just a trying to keep the doors open kind of thing um but I I know that from from the few
151meetings that we had with community members there was a lot of excitement about the possibility of of building some new things and offering some new things and improving you know some current things and so you know we need to we need to try to you know still address that as best we can but I don't know what the number is say I think our I think it's going up what I've just seen what if you look at what our community been done I look at the rec center I look at the shop at the county built um Hospital hos yeah hospital I don't know that as well but if you look at those two systems those were shells that were built and then finished by those systems I'm I guess I was thinking about things
152things that the county has done that have been new construction in recent years and at what point is it the school districts turned and I couldn't agree more with that context but I was looking at from a I I think our community might be more adep uh more willing to support a shell than we might realize I I would like to I would like to get feedback on that bit extra on but mostly it gutted the existing shell I mean it literally gutted it down to absolutely nothing and started back and built back so if if we truly think there's inflation in these numbers and we know there is then we'd be way better off to try to go with that shell concept and then subcontract peace meal what I mean I know I think
153I think if it's the if it's the goal of this board to to build something new I think we have we're going to have to because there's no way we're going to build something new that's that's completely finished out that's going to be of any real significant space we don't know realize you know can we do an $8 million Bond and get all this Shell built and does it actually cost eight you know can we will it let so then we'll have some money to do something with it within those shells and then we have our $2 million of capital out we have some allocation to do that Ian that if we don't like say if we don't trust like what is this what is this 600,000 what is that what we've had all that
154out and just say we're going to build the most economical shells that we can I still think we need to ask for I mean I I don't think we want to trim down to four five six million because I don't think you're going to get what you need and you're going to just be caught in limbo of well now we can't afford to finish this much space and we don't have it near where we need it to be but I mean I have a hard time going I do too just because I don't think we're gonna get what we need I don't think here either but if we could do a pretend with some vision and even part good J of that as shell but yet it still has a plan to move forward I
155I think I think there'll be more Community ownership ship into that um well I'd like to believe so I hope so then we're just the Easy Button you know just we're just GNA let somebody else do it it's but we're not going to get much but we're not g to have to do a lot of work if if we had four or five classrooms in a shell setting I know we can we could make those classrooms with what we have in capital outlet and we could have student space I don't know what that would cost but I know we could do it it might not be the Cadillac it might not be finished to what we like or want or the or the dream scenario but we could stick kids in those spaces and they
156would be effective learning environments and I mean it's have to take time I mean but but you got to see what if if you're willing to put four or five years into something you can you can make it happen St but you got to be patient and you gotta and you got to have a plan yeah that and that was something we talked about was that they had an architect and I don't know that ours wouldn't still do this but it was that helped them stage this out in this way was going to take time this is what you can do and this is what you know we can plan this type of building so you can do this much and then we we can't ask him to to Stage it until we have a
157pretty definitive idea of what it is we're staging yeah but at the end of the day it was a pre-engineered steel building with a little bit of brick veneer on the edge and the what we're talking sat on the ground and they ran up the edge it wasn't 100% beautiful but that's what we're talking about functional yeah okay um just to follow up um I I did get phone call from one of the County Commissioners um he shared with me and I guess take a chance that this public knowledge or will be soon that they he indicated to me that they were going to they're planning on raising their Mills I won't say how many because I don't know if that's public or not um he indicated to me that they had no choice in
158the matter um he also he was he asked me kind of about what we were planning on doing he he'd heard that we were planning to try some kind of a bond issue um and he offered to have conversations with us as a board and and them as a as a board um to try to plan how all that looks like especially if it all comes in the same year um I told him I appreciated him reaching out and sharing that with me and and as far as I'm concerned any open communication is better than no communication so um I I I left it with him that I would talk with you all um and try to set up a time that we could meet with him or them however many wanted to meet with
159us and had time to meet with us uh we didn't we didn't set a time um but I I kind of I told him I said well if we meet with you we have to have an open meeting meeting we got to schedule one and it'll have to be a special meeting um so and I we kind of left it as probably the sooner the better on having that conversation so I guess what I'm kind of asking you is we need to probably look at having a a special board meeting sometime probably prior to the end of the month um because we have a couple of other things that we in addition to facilities there's a couple other things that you'll hear about later that we probably need may may need some more time on
160too um so if you would all be able to look at your calendars and um maybe come up with a time that we could meet prior to April maybe I know next week's probably not going to work for anybody but the week after is there any time um what your thoughts on that agenda look like I think what I hear you saying is looking at a Joint School Board joint count commission meeting it sounds like a three-hour meeting to me is all that's what I'm allotting time for I don't know looks like I'm just allotting them us us and them and negotiations that's that was extra that's an extra 15 minutes right 26 I think for me that 17th yeah not next week but that whole week I think I can make about anything work
161to the evening or late after the 24th to the 28th yeah [Music] spring I think probably what what I will suggest is we pick a time and a date and I will call him back and say this this is the time and the date because I don't know how else we're going to ever coordinate between all of us and them to try to find something and if however many of them can make it then then that's probably what we'll do Monday they meet on Mondays pretty flexible except for I I don't know when I got to take Monday like is the first Monday or they meet every Monday every Monday convenient then I'm thinking maybe a Tuesday or a Thursday EAS but like or just put it all in one day and make them good
162Monday evening then they can meet all day and then come here um thoughts are we talking the 24th how does Monday the 24th look like it can't be if they meet on their M do they meet that Monday they meet every Monday every Monday what time do they meet eight o'clock in the morning so it have to be after their meeting it might that might not be bad it's just I don't know when their meetings in but I don't a lot of times I think they lot oftimes are done after lunch they still some they have committee stuff we could try like a like a one or a two o'clock or something like that I I don't know i' check with say we be flexible Inno anything after anything after one o00 I can if
163we can commit to Monday the 25th in the afternoon or possibly evening I will is that what I what I say okay I will try to work that out with them and get back with you all okay please please come with your um questions and concerns have them well in your mind because it may be your only opportunity to express them can we get some data before that things like what evaluation like I'm understanding evaluations have changed in the last few years in terms of our total valuation of our district um he yeah that's fair question that that was the reason he G he gave me that they were going to have to go up is because the valuations went down this year so I think I I would much valuations on Farmland went down
164specifically sorry I should have clarified if you remember not on your house if you remember we talked about it in the fall that our general fund valuation went down $10 million yeah I and I said that that wasn't necessarily going to affect us directly because we send our money to the state and they it wasn't going to affect our budget line but the county and the city well not so much the county it was going to affect them a lot more can I add something on a piece of paper you said this was our evaluation last year as a county and then it's this year this was their Mills last year this was our Mills that's what this is going to be about so I would like I'd like I'd rather not ask those questions
165in the meeting i' rather have that know what theirs was last year to this year I can tell you this year we were about no I need it on a piece of Pap we all yeah something you would present to every County Commissioner and School Board member that and that may come from the clerk I'm not sure but I'm saying and we be work we all need to be working from the same data points right yes can can you help me get that information request to them as well yeah Jeff gave a number that he needed I I think I feel like we have I'm hearing $10 million is probably about as much as we're interested in trying to pursue what I'm gonna say is we're gonna do it for 10 that's my goal with
166that guy yes 989 yeah or do something with we yeah we can you I can I'll get I will I'll meet with you and we'll figure it out okay I appreciate everybody's input on that and we will keep working toward it I think we I think we have a goal I I'm excited about it I hope we can make it happen Okay um we'll move on to action items does anyone would leave like a five minute break first okay I couldn't even make it that far so all right we'll come back about 8 20 or so 817 okay we will move on to action items a is the ksb legal assistance fund and the k SB annual membership this is just annual um during this meeting to renew our membership with ksv and also the
167fee for the um assistance legal assistance to be a to call them whenever they need to um like I said it's it's basically an annual thing prices for J about the same all those in favor 7 Z okay ASB plus if you've not loged in there's a ton of financial uh information just um lots of lots of stuff on there for board members training learning and most everything that I go to and a lot probably that Jeff goes to also there's no charge to us because we have that which $150 the otherwise it pops so okay um ksb policies updated policies this is the other one that we've kind of kicked down the road a couple different times um I know that here in a couple months we get their second round of updates but
168if you remember right the two had in question was the fundraiser one um and it was just a little bit of that beginning verbiage that some districts were choosing not to because they felt like it was opening up if you could still participate in the trip or whatever the case may be without putting forth any effort but for the most part talking with Sam every everybody body that's part of something typically does their their sharing so I I don't see why um it should be a big deal um if if things change with the next update we can change it then but and the other one is The Whistleblower one that again I the concern on on the the fun is it consist that policy if we were to adopt it consistent with what we're
169doing today that's what I was that's the only question I asked of you guys is if that's the case I'm good if you needed to modify it what's your recommendation to modify no we we've we've already put together a fundraising form that people fill out just so that we can keep track of all of our fundraising know that if there's anything that involves selling of food or anything else that when we get it they have to the form comes they fill it out gets building principal approval it comes down to you here all set and and talk with Jan especially it involves the food stuff so that we can keep that documentation then I'll sign it send it back to them let them know it's been approved um just so that we're making sure that
170we're falling in line and so part of that process will be me looking at the fundraiser and making sure that it fall with that as well so I don't see a problem is that changing what we're currently doing I I get you're doing a for but are we are we currently doing that right now before we do any updates that's the taxes yes we do that okay it it's going to be a lot we're going to catch things ahead of time with the form and then we'll have paper trail so that we can see a summation of the year and see some patterns okay sounds good I'm sound accurate yes thank you okay okay motion second take your pick all in favor seven zero one of the bees we have a lot of bees prob
171the last one is um Sam had updated number on driver's ed yeah the contract should be in your we had 25 kids show up uh there's flat rate for the number of classroom hours because she has all 25 of them together and each student gets uh five hours of driving instruction so Janet put it in there ofr not to exceed this number which is 5 time 25 and that equals what her contract would be and her contract dollar amount she is uh back teaching and so that's where that came from this year which what that's how we always did it until she retired I'm do approve second all those in favor 70 okay we are ready for executive sessions first one we do not have an A not an A okay then B how much
172time do you need for non-elected got all the evaluations to do through that because we'll have to do a little executive senses for that so don't be afraid we can we got stuff to do yeah we can we can get started you don't have to make it too short okay yeah well let's just let's the first part let's do with invitation with Mr Myers to talk about a couple and then that way he can be done how much what about okay all right um well I guess we go to n give us probably enough you think that too long I'm just however long we need them I don't want to keep them longer than we have to keep them we will be here a while yes I think 10 minutes with Mr Myers okay okay
173but I think that's Brandon he Mr President move we go into executive session Mr SS and Mr Meyer present to discuss employee contracts puru to the non-elected Personnel exception under any open meeting will resume at the boardroom at 8:35 second all those in favor 70 we are back in Open session so it was productive it was very thank you we'll just do five I think probably five yes ready I am ready l l Mr President Mo we go into executive session Mr C and Miss Keller present to discuss employee contracts Pur to the non-elected Personnel exception the open meeting will resume at the boardroom at 856 second all those in favor 70 oh how about seven Z okay back in Open Session I believe we have some action items I am ready all right I
174move to approve the hiring of liby Libby Duffy for elementary PE teacher second all those in favor seven Z oh sorry 70 I move to hire Brian Riner to high school science teacher second all those in favor 70 ready uh I moved to just say reassign I was say yeah that's what I'm looking for I'm going to reassign Trevor Elkins to head high school track coach for the 2425 okay hold on I didn't know about that one you got one other one need to do it's still on there Trevor Alin move or reassign yeah from assistant to head wait not a second second PA wa okay so all those in favor seven zero who is my actual second Brandon somebody it don't don't matter okay uh I moved to hire Sam Myers as high school
175assistant track coach for the 2425 school year okay just a minute I gotta find a place to run for that's the way I do notes it's it's in here there's no way it could come back out of there and um so my assumption is I'm going to increase Trevor's salary to what the head coach makes and and pay him the difference and then Myers will get the assistant coach salary I think that's right fbh and 70 oh yes okay all in favor 7 Zer yes it was and I think there's one more yes no I have one more on there if we we haven't heard back we haven't heard back pausing on that one okay I'll scr then that should be that should be it perfect and you guys can have as many more as
176you want I made another sheet so we're not done so you never know oh you're good you can go the rest of the night never know what we might come up with next okay well we I believe are ready Let's see we need another B yes and I know if you want to structure it over 10 15 minutes that's bar whistle yeah that's not good and to invite beber well we don't have his done it just be an invitation to her okay we got to her evaluation like so just the board with an invitation to J or with the board and jff I don't okay how long do we want to 10 10 let's do 10 to start with okay go 9:15 Mr President I move we go to Executive session with an invitation extended
177misser uh to discuss employer employee negotiations pursuant to the exception for the employer employee negotiations in Makoma and the open meeting resume with the Border 9:15 second all those in favor 70 we are back in open session we are not done if you didn't come back I was just going to drag this over here and set it in the chair just pretend take off take him off at the waist and okay um we are I believe we are ready for a 7c yes 7even C negotiation oh yeah you're right I put D up here sorry guys with Mr invation yeah pres probably might as well yeah okay Mr President move we go into executive session Mr SS present to discuss employer employee negotiations pursuing to the exception for employer employee negotiations under Doma the open
178meeting 94 second all those in favor 7 Z we are back in Open Session believe we have addressed everything on the agenda I wouldve to Second all those in favor 70 thank you everybody